1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,839 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, this is Mark Edwards aka Aggie Dad and 2 00:00:04,919 --> 00:00:08,279 Tiger Grad and you're listening to the Surely You Can't 3 00:00:08,359 --> 00:00:12,119 Be Serious Podcast. You know, I learned something new every 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:21,239 single week from these guys. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,039 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely you Can't 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,800 Be Serious Podcast? Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We 7 00:00:28,839 --> 00:00:32,039 are here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start 8 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:34,920 the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,759 at a time, which is about to link for the song, 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,000 so it works out kind of nicely, So please join 11 00:00:39,079 --> 00:00:42,799 us as we dive into some new lyrics today. 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: All right, guys, So here are the topics that we're 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,240 going to be covering today. 14 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:51,719 Speaker 2: Pen Mu John, Brando and the King and I. Okay, Jason, 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,640 what can you tell me about pen Mujohn Okay? 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: I knew nothing about Pen Mu John until I dove 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,479 into this. This is the village where the US and 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,600 South Korea met with China and North Korea to end 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,280 the Korean War. So it's this village just north of 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,079 the Korean border where nineteen fifty three it got together 21 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:10,439 and signed that truce. Although most of the troops have 22 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:13,200 been removed, it is still heavily armed, and both sides 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,000 are there today. 24 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,799 Speaker 2: Is allan Alda's still there? He might be, He might be. 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: So the de militarized zone, it's one hundred and fifty 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,439 miles long and two and a half miles wide, and 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,640 they still like do petty things to each other all 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,719 the time. Like South Korea put up a flag, North 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,840 Korea put up one and it was taller, and South 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,879 Korea blasts like k pop towards the North Korea side. Yeah, 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,840 and North Korea blast propaganda from there now then no 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 peace treaty was ever signed. So technically North and South 33 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:43,120 Korea are still at war. Okayde, what can you tell 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:43,879 me about Brando? 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: Okay, So Brando has got to be Marlon Brando, which 36 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:50,239 we've talked about multiple times in our past. Of course, 37 00:01:50,359 --> 00:01:54,680 Brando was a high school dropout. As a matter of fact, 38 00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:56,719 he got kicked out of high school. His dad sent 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,560 him to military school, and he get kicked out of 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,519 that as well, went home, was a ditch digger. Ultimately 41 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:04,159 decided to go up to New York and study acting, 42 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:07,760 where he studied with Stella Adler, who was teaching the 43 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:11,439 Stanislavsky method. He had the personality that he was kind 44 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:13,639 of difficult to get along with, but he was an 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,400 incredibly good actor and incredibly skilled with this Stanislavsky method. 46 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:21,280 So he was in started acting in plays and such. 47 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:24,520 Would sometimes do very well on stage, but other times 48 00:02:24,719 --> 00:02:27,639 would kind of fall into this method thing and piss 49 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:30,520 the other actors off, and eventually he would get fired 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,120 from a production. Well, one of the times he got fired, 51 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,919 it happened to be a very fortuitous circumstance because him 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,560 being fired led to him getting a part in the 53 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:44,439 brand new Tennessee Williams play called a Streetcar named Desire. Now, 54 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:46,000 the part that he was going to play was of 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Stanley Kowalski. That part was supposed to be an older guy, 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,479 but even Tennessee Williams, when he heard Brando Reid, he 57 00:02:52,599 --> 00:02:55,520 was like, this brought a whole new life to this character. 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,400 The youth made it something different and something better than 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,520 I had originally thought. In nineteen fifty one, he was 60 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:07,560 cast in the same part in the movie Stella. So 61 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:11,039 this very early acting role for him resulted in a 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,240 nomination for an Oscar. He didn't win that year, but 63 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,439 he ultimately did win for On the Waterfront. It could 64 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:20,879 have been a contenda, and he was the actor of 65 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,000 the time in the fifties. I mean he was basically 66 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:26,639 the John Travolta of the fifties. But in the sixties 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,879 he started to do some bad work, kind of fell 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,479 out of favor. He ultimately came back, as we all know, 69 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:36,680 in the seventies with The Godfather, where he got nominated 70 00:03:36,719 --> 00:03:40,960 for an Oscar Again. Interestingly, Stella Adler I mentioned was 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,800 his teacher. Lee Strasberg was the other method acting teacher 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,919 of the time, and he tried to take credit for Brando, 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,439 but Branda was like, no, this guy taught me nothing. 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,280 He's a moron and I don't care for him. Well, 75 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:53,879 what's interesting is Brando of course was in Godfather one. 76 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:58,159 Lee Strasburg was of course in Godfather Part two. Then 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,000 of course we have The Last Tang in Paris, and 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,840 we have Superman, which they had to film in England 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,039 because he had pornography charges in Italy from the last 80 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,919 thing go in Paris. As it turns out, in the seventies, 81 00:04:10,919 --> 00:04:13,680 also what was going on with him, He was involved 82 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,920 in a sexual relationship with Richard Pryor. According to Richard 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,839 Pryor's wife and Quincy Jones. So you know, they pulled 84 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,639 him out of Superman two, but he found a way 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,959 to put himself into Superman Thury. If you will, there 86 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,279 you go, Marlon Branda hard on top that one. Okay, 87 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:30,319 tell me about The King and I. 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: Okay. So The King and I is a musical by 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,959 Rogers and Hammerstein which debuted in March of nineteen fifty one. 90 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,360 It's based on the novel called Anna and the King 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,399 of Siam, which was written by Margaret London, derived from 92 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:45,800 the memoirs of Anna leon Owens, the governess to the 93 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,160 children of King Moncote of Siam from. 94 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:51,199 Speaker 2: The eighteen sixties. It was easy for you to say. 95 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:53,079 Speaker 3: I know there was a loving relationship there, but they 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,360 could never really act on it. So the musical premier 97 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:58,600 in nineteen fifty one. The stage play and film both 98 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:01,600 debut in nineteen fifty s So you will recognize Jule 99 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:03,959 Brenner as the star. He played the King. He is 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,639 one of only ten people who won a Tony and 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,759 an Academy Award for the same role. Nice I'm more 102 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,160 familiar with the Chow Young Fat and Jodie Foster version 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,399 from the nineties that was called Anna and the King. 104 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Some of the songs you may know are shall We Dance, 105 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 I Whistle A happy tune, and getting to Know You. 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,839 That is the King and. 107 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: I Love it. Okay, guys, that does it for today's episode. 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Join us next time for five minutes of fire.