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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Peak Shade. It's Thursday. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about pop culture and Bravo and there's nobody

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<v Speaker 1>better on the planet to discuss it with than my

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<v Speaker 1>pal Kate Casey, the amazing Comma k Casey.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me. I am elated

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<v Speaker 2>to be here. Thought about it all night long as

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<v Speaker 2>I watched from my couch watching the Summer House reunion

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<v Speaker 2>that I knew that we would be brought together today

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I don't watch Summerhouse, but I like

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<v Speaker 1>to have people on that do talk about it because

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<v Speaker 1>all the rattling off of the things I'm seeing is

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<v Speaker 1>that Amanda seems stoned or doesn't seem to have any

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<v Speaker 1>reactions and maybe she took a little xanax. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it does remind me of when Vicky Gumbelson didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to discuss the Brooks cancer situation. So Brian moylan

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<v Speaker 2>told me this morning that a producer told him and

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<v Speaker 2>actually played the audio of her complaining saying I only

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<v Speaker 2>took half a xanax, so maybe she took like three xanaxes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that she was like a devoid of

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<v Speaker 2>but he did too. But then again, I also feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they're the kind of people that maybe have got

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of you know, Watts line to like the

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<v Speaker 2>good the good stuff that people are doing today that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know about. So they were on something

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't really answer any question, And I would

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going to be a big problem moving forward

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<v Speaker 2>for this network, is that they need to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>certain shows that I think you drug test them. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you get you can't do that to a network.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're paid to be a reality star, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you get to the reunion, then you don't answer

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<v Speaker 2>questions because you've taken a pill. That's a problem to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that those two are probably gone, maybe gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I definitely don't think West is coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>But people did also point out somebody pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>how quickly we forgot that his cousin murdered his step grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>like the day before the reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>No, apparently he didn't know about that till after the reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he didn't know about him.

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<v Speaker 2>My first I was with you. I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>now I feel terrible, But then I found out he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't find out about it till afterward.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't understand the attraction to him, But

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<v Speaker 1>I also have never arned.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very charming. I interviewed him once. He's charming, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was the first season, and then the second season

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, m he's gone, baby gone. He just seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like the fame and other extenuating circumstances did not make

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<v Speaker 2>him the same person. And I think he's probably an

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<v Speaker 2>innate people pleaser. I think having attentions extraordinarily important to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think that he has opportunities that the

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<v Speaker 2>other cast doesn't because he's in a sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>like a different vortex with his his day job, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in the podcast space, he's more of like a

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<v Speaker 2>like he's into that sports adjacent world. I think that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know the Jen Fessler situation. He's probably

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<v Speaker 2>thinking himself, I don't want a middle aged woman audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to like go more into the sports field.

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<v Speaker 2>There's you know, it's a bigger space for me. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell me that after forty thousand new followers after

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<v Speaker 2>the scandal erupted, that the people around him are not like,

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<v Speaker 2>get off this train. Also, I will tell you as

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who has to interview talent, or has interview talent

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<v Speaker 2>over the last ten years, it would be a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big no no for a cast member to have a

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<v Speaker 2>scandal like that which happened in March. They would be

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<v Speaker 2>told don't discuss it anywhere until the reunion, because they

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<v Speaker 2>want them all to discuss their reunions. We're too much.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got forty thousand new followers. He has a deluge

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<v Speaker 2>of gms of telling me he's a horrible person. He's

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<v Speaker 2>probably getting calls from brands and other things who don't

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<v Speaker 2>really necessarily care about this. They just want somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>has a big following is in the center of a

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<v Speaker 2>news story to do things, and then he has to

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<v Speaker 2>be careful because it can't violate this. I think he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I went off this drain. This is

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<v Speaker 2>even where I want to end up. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>looking at Paige. He's like, look at all the great

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<v Speaker 2>stuff she's doing. I don't really want to be on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he will end up with Amanda now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably got a lot of women that

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<v Speaker 2>he's juggling. I think he feels like he's stuck right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He's waiting for the next big news story to happen

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<v Speaker 2>so he can like kind of weasele his way out.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're stuck together right now because of the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of the show and the contracts and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think he's dart in his eyes. He's looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the exits. And I think that she has she's

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<v Speaker 2>devotive of personality. She always tries to find guys that

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<v Speaker 2>have a personality and she can sort of ride the crowtails.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a romantic climber. She looks for relationships where she

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<v Speaker 2>can get access and opportunity. And they were in a

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<v Speaker 2>miserable marriage for a long time. We know now because

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<v Speaker 2>the reunion that they didn't have sex after they got married,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was four years ago. So that sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a partnership to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she just sits around in her bed all day.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that we went from the city in the

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<v Speaker 2>city when we went to her apartment with that. She's

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<v Speaker 2>basically borderline hoarder. Yes, so she's very lazy. I again,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they stayed together other than the

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<v Speaker 2>television opportunity. The other thing is you feel terrible for

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people, And then between the Summerhouse reunion,

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<v Speaker 2>like the last ten minutes and the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>In the City, I saw about what seemed like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven commercials with the cast members for different brands, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, they're all monetizing off this, so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't feel so bad for them at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Is west On that in the City show?

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<v Speaker 2>No No he made? No, no, no he made. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in a scene with Sierra and Amanda last week where

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda's really on in the city and they met for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner outside and they're short of like their body languages

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<v Speaker 2>off the netnut from the reunions. People are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>put the timelines together. I mean they tried to suggest

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<v Speaker 2>they started to have feelings for each other after the

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl, which was February third. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>they if they were having sex, they were definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get there well before that. And he said something like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of fell for her because I saw how

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<v Speaker 2>happy she was because we have the same friend group,

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<v Speaker 2>and I see her out now and she seems so happy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like something was happening before. It felt like

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<v Speaker 2>she gave him a cheat sheet of answers, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he had forgotten about the answers. You know, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to quarterback. Then he got to the huddle and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, wait, what player are we doing? Like he

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<v Speaker 2>completely forgot about it. Now again he said he was

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<v Speaker 2>on He did sit confirming he was on Beta blockers.

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<v Speaker 2>But also he reminded me of the sister and sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>candles who went on the muscle relaxers loft. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what he took, but they were not there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were not there, and so it was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of an So they're gonna have an aftermath

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<v Speaker 2>another episode, and I can't imagine the network would be

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<v Speaker 2>happy about that. Now. People would go, but that's another

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<v Speaker 2>episode in advertising dollars. But it's also you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get a crew. You got to facilitate it. You got

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<v Speaker 2>the lighting has to be right, the sound has to

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<v Speaker 2>be right. You have to make sure that they're willing

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<v Speaker 2>and open to discuss the matter at hand. You'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to isolate Amanda from West because I think she's telling

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<v Speaker 2>him what to say. Now, Kyle said at the reunion, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of isolating Amanda, like you keep her to yourself. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda is the person who don't want to leave her apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>She like DAPs at her bed all day. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's the issue. I do think she was

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<v Speaker 2>giving them notes. I don't think he remembered it because

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<v Speaker 2>he would took the bit beta blocker. Plus, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know he'd again. I like his guy wants out. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like and they're asking him, you to stay together, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, hamah ahamad, ahama ahamada, and admitted that he'd

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<v Speaker 2>been sleeping with this other girl that was She's basically

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<v Speaker 2>like she was like Caroline looking into the light and Poltergeist.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one time she showed emotion was they brought

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<v Speaker 2>up the fact that he's been like sleeping with this

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<v Speaker 2>other girl and they asked her, asked him about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said something like, well, once we made the announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the announcement, I mean that Amanda wrote somebody

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<v Speaker 2>with chachipe teen posted on scrim stories and made him

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<v Speaker 2>repost it. Then we were exclusive. But then archival photography

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<v Speaker 2>showed that the girlfriend was with west In like April.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that all was coming to fruition where she

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<v Speaker 2>was like in the moment of clarity, she was like, ooh, Alza,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was the only one. Now. Brian thinks

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<v Speaker 2>what happened is that he said something like You've always

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<v Speaker 2>been the one. I've always been in love with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and so all this other girl stuff probably didn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>because she was like, well, it's always been me he's

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<v Speaker 2>been in love with because she's living in like in

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<v Speaker 2>John Hughes movie in her head, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so she thinks they're gonna add him together again. This guy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy in high school who had like a

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend at the high school, but he also had one

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<v Speaker 2>of the neighbor in high school and then maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>was sleeping with his mom's friend, you know. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of delusional. So she again is the girl that

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<v Speaker 2>we knew in elementary school. On the recess McCadam crying

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<v Speaker 2>and girls were around her comforting her. She's still like that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like even at three Union, Kyle's like, m I still

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<v Speaker 2>care about Amanda. I'm really worried about her. And then

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, oh, we're worried about Amanda. Why are you

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<v Speaker 2>in a reality show? Your the tooth and skin. You

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be on a reality show. But I think she

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<v Speaker 2>uses it as a control tactic. Is like to make

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<v Speaker 2>people think that she's fragile. M Oh my gosh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. That's that's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll be interested to see what happens to that

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<v Speaker 1>cast for next season. Even though I don't I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand the idea of being in your late thirties

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<v Speaker 1>What is Wes's day job?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he had a day job. Oh yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he works in media. He does work in media. But

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<v Speaker 1>These people are losers?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking of?

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<v Speaker 1>They should losers?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are like? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Because I was

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<v Speaker 2>just talking to Chris about Love Island, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>Don's age group, right, and it's like that's when you

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<v Speaker 2>But like a forty year old and had a forty

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching Love Island?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I just watched Love Island so we could

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<v Speaker 2>because Chris's observations are astute and true and sadly and

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<v Speaker 2>but they're all like twenty one and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like when you were fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>a matchup, almost like test tasting, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know pasta, like you know, like to find out

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<v Speaker 2>like is it your mom's pasta?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like four different wines? Can you tell which one is?

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen dollars eighty dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, John and his girlfriend are watching it. They

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's what that's who watches it because Mea watches too.

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<v Speaker 2>All the high school girls what they love it. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a new guy named Caleb who's on the blue

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<v Speaker 2>added from North Carolina and the girls are losing their

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<v Speaker 1>He's a it's a young person's game. Matt and Jake

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<v Speaker 1>are covering it, which I was like, uh, it's hilarious, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Is funny to hear a gay guy's perspective, because Chris

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<v Speaker 2>was like, uh, by the way, this is like toxic

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<v Speaker 2>masculinity and here's an example of it. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy Caleb, that's really cute, that just got to

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<v Speaker 2>the show. He works in air conditioning repairs. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, twenty twenty six, that's the guy

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<v Speaker 2>you want to date. Do you know how much money

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<v Speaker 2>they make repairs?

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Love Island. I'm gonna look him up right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, have you read your air conditioning break? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they're making a lot. That's a good business to

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb and Ganna. Yeah, he's very cute.

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<v Speaker 2>He's cute, but he's you know, he's twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>they make a lot of money. Yes, they have a skill,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know why, because they make great money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's right. Now, you know a skill and

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<v Speaker 1>you make a lot of money, and they maybe don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll train you, they don't care. If you're a fellon,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, felons need to make money too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's right. It's like Ethan Plath. For a long

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<v Speaker 1>time did like copy or repair at offices.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a business that's going out of business, right right,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a long time. Who the hell needs a

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<v Speaker 2>copy anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've listen. I've got a coffee right there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my coffee. It's a pretty send you DOCU sign. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's a printer, do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I've printed and then that it's old school. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach too, just in case. Okay, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Rhode Island because you and I have not had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to chat yet. Now Rhode Island, I was

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<v Speaker 1>late to the game, but I'm all called up because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's faces were the same when it was upsetting. So

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<v Speaker 1>once I got everybody straight in my mind, now I

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<v Speaker 1>am into it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, there's one episode left of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>You finally I know I've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I only was one behind the whole time last

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<v Speaker 1>night before I was like, I got all caught up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I got I went to my peacock, I got

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<v Speaker 1>it all done. What did you First of all, what

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<v Speaker 1>then they showed on the preview for next thing like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he got arrested for tracking me. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have been tracking him? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a theory about those Okay. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they can't get a divorce because they have lots of businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if all of the businesses the

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<v Speaker 2>other person's aware of what the business makes and how

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<v Speaker 2>it's operating. And I think, and I think I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>this too, that they were just supposed to be a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>like she was supposed to be a friend of the cast.

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<v Speaker 2>But because this was such a big story that it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of intertwined everybody's, you know, storyline, that they

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<v Speaker 2>had to make her a cast member, so why she's

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<v Speaker 2>like barely there in a lot of things. She was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be a friend of. So now she's fucked

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<v Speaker 2>because she thought she'd be a friend of of a show,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe do some little publicity for the MEDSPA. But now

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<v Speaker 2>the podiatrist foot surgeon husband has this affair, which I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she really cares about because it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>he was with the Spanish teacher. Alicia's a Spanish teacher

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<v Speaker 2>when he met Rula, so she was the other woman.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's probably that's part of it, like in an

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<v Speaker 2>agreement that they you know, she's probably like, uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't I won't ask you about the other women. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to make sure that you do the following

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. There's some sort of agreement going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like just don't embarrass me, don't ask, don't tell. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I embarrass me, and now he's embarrassed her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean they probably don't even hook up. They

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<v Speaker 2>probably haven't for a while, but they have two kids

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<v Speaker 2>together and they have a life to get and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've got a lot of things, you know, intertwined,

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<v Speaker 2>but they must know too much about each other that

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, I don't want to be in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where we have to split for a multitude of reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're screwed because we're on this TV show

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't leave me because I know all that info.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got this woman who you've been sleeping with,

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<v Speaker 2>who you've clearly led to believe is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the next wife, and she's going to get real angry

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<v Speaker 2>when she realizes that he was probably lying to her.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never going to leave Rula, And then that mistress

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<v Speaker 2>probably knows stuff too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just get the feeling that this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, especially when I heard the whole like he

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<v Speaker 1>got arrested for tracking her. I was like, what's he

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<v Speaker 1>tracking her for? She's going to these housewives party or

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<v Speaker 1>driving her kids around, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Or he's tracking her so he can't so the mistress

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't have to cross paths at allah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think about that, But I mean, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>just put Find my Friends on iPhone like it? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different generation.

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<v Speaker 2>They have little kids, you know, they don't have teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>where they you know, find my phone and all that's

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<v Speaker 2>three life, three sixty that they don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got to go old school. He's gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>put a device under her car like it's, you know, goodfellows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just saw also speaking of people being tracked

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<v Speaker 1>and Lisa Hockstein and her boyfriend like their charges dropped

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever for the tracking of Lenny. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>said all these people had come out with allegations. This

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<v Speaker 1>woman had come out with allegations against Lenny of assault,

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<v Speaker 1>like being drugged and assaulted in a hotel room. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not looking good for Lenny. It'd be great if

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<v Speaker 1>they were filming in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what's gonna say. What what a year? What

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months to not be filming? Lots has

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<v Speaker 2>happened in Miami? I really feel like they used the bone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Miguel Luciano told me that not Marisa, all

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<v Speaker 1>the other one are why is her name just Alexia?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Alexia.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexia and Todd are back together.

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<v Speaker 2>Back together, back together and strung. But he may have

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<v Speaker 2>been like, because it's off the air now, now we

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<v Speaker 2>can get back together, because I think again, maybe doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be on the show because that's hanging a

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<v Speaker 2>light on stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, you see what happens when people get

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<v Speaker 1>too interested in your finances or your job.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, somebody could write a scripted series where it's

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<v Speaker 2>a reality show and the woman gets involved with the

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<v Speaker 2>man and then the man's doing something that's like super

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you have a lot, it'll be good. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think about this whole? Like Liz and Alicia

419
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<v Speaker 1>fight over the word homeless. I saw Liz and Watch

420
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<v Speaker 1>What Happens Live, and what she said to Andy was

421
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<v Speaker 1>basically she was kind of trying to protect Alisha from

422
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<v Speaker 1>her because when you said the word homeless, now maybe

423
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<v Speaker 1>later people are gonna come after you and be like, oh,

424
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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't used that word. You're appropriating that word. It

425
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<v Speaker 1>really that's not what happened. You literally moved in with

426
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<v Speaker 1>your aunt. You were never you were never homeless. But

427
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<v Speaker 1>Alicia's thought was, my dad like sold the house out

428
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<v Speaker 1>from under us, and we had nowhere to live. We

429
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<v Speaker 1>had to move in with my aunt. So you could

430
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<v Speaker 1>see both points. But Liz on Watch What Happens Live

431
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<v Speaker 1>was trying to tell Andy. It was like if you

432
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<v Speaker 1>just all of a sudden were like I was never

433
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<v Speaker 1>I was never gay. I've always been straight. I would

434
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<v Speaker 1>be like you would never straight. You know. She's like

435
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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get you to da, I just

436
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<v Speaker 1>feel the wrong word. You know, it went on too long.

437
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<v Speaker 2>It's like, why do you care? Just make a joke

438
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<v Speaker 2>like she's she's as almost as I am. Like without

439
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<v Speaker 2>plastic surgery or something, I don't know, she could have

440
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<v Speaker 2>like just let it go.

441
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then Joellen and then Liz. You know, we're

442
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<v Speaker 1>having this argument which went on for too long. I

443
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<v Speaker 1>love Joellen. I like to look at it.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Very pretty.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Ashley, I because I'm not in the Bachelor Nation, and

446
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just know her name and her husband.

447
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<v Speaker 1>They look so much alike. She and her husband. They

448
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<v Speaker 1>both have such angry Yeah. They're beautiful people.

449
00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful people, and she's very nice. She was the first

450
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<v Speaker 2>guest I ever had on my podcast.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Stop it is that true?

452
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<v Speaker 2>True?

453
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<v Speaker 1>The first guest ever? Uh huh, look at that. That's

454
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<v Speaker 1>a little Kate Casey history.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's the same then and she is now totally

456
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<v Speaker 2>the same person.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Rosie. I don't really have an opinion on I did think.

458
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<v Speaker 1>I did think her husband didn't do a Frank Sinatra impression.

459
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<v Speaker 1>He was just singing.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Probably, but he's probably had a dream like he's

461
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't have a lot of opportunity in

462
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<v Speaker 2>the state of Rhode Island. I'm sure, so good for him,

463
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<v Speaker 2>God bless make it happen.

464
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<v Speaker 1>You can.

465
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<v Speaker 2>You know what he'll probably do. And I would recommend

466
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<v Speaker 2>this to him. America's got talent, go for it, try

467
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<v Speaker 2>it out. Oh, not a bad not a bad idea.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Let's see D D D to D. Okay, that's it

469
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<v Speaker 1>for Rhode Island, I think, because next week is the finale,

470
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<v Speaker 1>and that's exciting. Okay, let's talk about Atlanta. Are you

471
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:15.240
<v Speaker 1>caught up on Atlanta? Are you watching it?

472
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched any of Atlanta, and I know I

473
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<v Speaker 2>keep meaning too, but then it's like, just when I

474
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.880
<v Speaker 2>am about to that, I have like a four season

475
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.319
<v Speaker 2>documentary I've got to watch, so I'm totally behind.

476
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<v Speaker 1>It's a really good season, I think, Oh good, Yeah,

477
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a really good season. The New People, Pinky and

478
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<v Speaker 1>ca Michelle. At first I didn't like k Michelle. I

479
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<v Speaker 1>found her to be sort of over the top and

480
00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>performative and bug. But I've really she's really grown on

481
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<v Speaker 1>me and I really like this new girl Pinky And

482
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<v Speaker 1>we got to see this week. We got to see

483
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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia's boyfriend whose name is Prince, and I don't know

484
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<v Speaker 1>where he's from. He I think he's African. Let's see.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Let's look about Cynthia Bailey.

486
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<v Speaker 2>At the Burden of Cynthia. She so gorgeous. I feel

487
00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>like a man would feel. I don't know, dudes, but like,

488
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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you gotta be real good looking to

489
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<v Speaker 2>be with her.

490
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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's nineteen years younger and his name, his name

491
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<v Speaker 1>was La Prince. What she was calling him Prince. He's

492
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<v Speaker 1>an Amsterdam based musician.

493
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<v Speaker 2>And j yeah, okay, good for you.

494
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<v Speaker 1>They talked at some point. He said something at some

495
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<v Speaker 1>point and they put underneath he was speaking in Dutch.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Very hot, but he's got like giant dreadlocks. He does

497
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<v Speaker 1>DJ with reggaetronics dance music, reggae.

498
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<v Speaker 2>He plays soccer. Soccer is very big there football. I

499
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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Don't make me look up his history. Wad

500
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 2>where does she meet him? This is like, this is

501
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<v Speaker 2>this love story for the ages.

502
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll tell you I'll tell you are okay, and

503
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<v Speaker 1>this is the names of all these people are not

504
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<v Speaker 1>going to come to me, and that's why I have

505
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<v Speaker 1>you here. I had Christa Rosa on to talk about

506
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<v Speaker 1>this documentary that was about the Princess of Norway marrying

507
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<v Speaker 1>that scammy, scamming guy.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, total scammer yep.

509
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So the two of them got who was like gay?

510
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not like I mean he was gay, and then

511
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<v Speaker 1>he said, oh, I just happened to fall in love

512
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<v Speaker 1>with this Princess of Norway and she was very into

513
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<v Speaker 1>like mystical healing and all this weird stuff.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

515
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<v Speaker 1>So they had this wedding.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Vanity Fair article on that side note people could go

517
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<v Speaker 2>back and read that was that was a good one.

518
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<v Speaker 1>So there was a there was a whole documentaryund it.

519
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Christop Rosa came on to discuss it with me, and

520
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>at the wedding, Chris completely missed it that Sonya and

521
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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia were there.

522
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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, because he was like a social like

523
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<v Speaker 2>drifter or too.

524
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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So my understanding from back in the day when

525
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<v Speaker 1>I used to listen to Jeff Lewis, Cynthia had been

526
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<v Speaker 1>at that wedding and either she met that guy there

527
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<v Speaker 1>or they first started dating. But I think she met

528
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<v Speaker 1>that guy at the wedding.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Oh I got to get to the bottom of that.

530
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, but I remember Santy Chris. I was like,

531
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<v Speaker 1>Sonya and Cynthia were definitely paid to be at that wedding,

532
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 1>and he was like probably, yeah, God that.

533
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's that's a job for me. I'd

534
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<v Speaker 2>like to be paid to go to a wedding because

535
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<v Speaker 2>I do like a wedding, especially if I'm able to

536
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<v Speaker 2>like be the center of the dance floor, like I'll go.

537
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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to an Indian wedding in India,

538
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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I would like to go to that too.

539
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I need like a high brow, bougie like four day event.

540
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would love that too. Although the costume

541
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:33.440
<v Speaker 2>shows on India yes, gorgeous and Dubai Dubai's Great weddings too.

542
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm obsessed. And I met a guy when I

543
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.319
<v Speaker 1>was on this work trip with my husband in Paris,

544
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>and he was you know, it's all DC people and

545
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>he was from like Washington State and his wife. His

546
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>wife was finishing up a fellowship. We were talking about that.

547
00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>She was a doctor, and they were getting married the

548
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 1>next summer and they were getting doing an American wedding

549
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and an Indian wedding. And I was like, well, you know,

550
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>my dream is to go to an Indian wedding. Why

551
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 1>would he know that he just met me. He's like, well,

552
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can come. I was like, no, No,

553
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 1>My husband's like, she's obsessed with going to an Indian

554
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>wedding because she wants to wear the outfits, she wants

555
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to do the hennah, she wants to go to all

556
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the different events.

557
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yeah, we're having one of those. He's like,

558
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>no elephants though, no elephants. We need to find somebody

559
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 2>who has elephants, because it's like we're going to go.

560
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go all out right.

561
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotta do the Kardashians.

562
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get like on their list, serve like maybe

563
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>if they don't want to go to something like, we'll

564
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:37.559
<v Speaker 2>get the discount rate and we'll go for them as

565
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>ambassadors to Kardashian and world.

566
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<v Speaker 1>A listener did write me and said that there are

567
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>these big, huge, fancy Indian weddings in India and they

568
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>are paying people to like come. I was like, how

569
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<v Speaker 1>do I get on that list serve.

570
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.599
<v Speaker 2>No kidding, Yeah, He's like, yeah, I want to get

571
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 2>on the list serve where I could just get paid

572
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 2>to do things that I really already enjoy, right, like

573
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>a wedding, Like a wedding or just like drinks like something,

574
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 2>appetizers on a duffy boat, like, okay, let's do it.

575
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't get anybody into ship.

576
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

577
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I keep telling Gibson every time gibbson John's goes something

578
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to New York, I'm like, I'm right here and you

579
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 1>see three hour train ride.

580
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Brother the like crazy weddings.

581
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I just got of everything, like I'm around, I can

582
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:31.279
<v Speaker 1>go my kids.

583
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 2>I know.

584
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I think people just assume we won't go, assume i'll go,

585
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Assume I'll go to anything.

586
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 2>I had a manager say that to me. She was like, oh,

587
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I just thought you like don't want to go to events.

588
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I'll go. I just I'm I'm

589
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the girl at school that can't get a prom date,

590
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Like who's left?

591
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Will they ask me? Okay, so I will say that

592
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Cynthia's new man is interesting about it. Atlanta and Angela

593
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Oakley is just really coming into it this season she's

594
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>very funny. I really like her very very quick.

595
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like what I like about her and this

596
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I haven't even watched the season yet, but I what

597
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I like her about her is I get the feeling

598
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>like she's had a life well lived, like a lot

599
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>of like a lot of stuff has happened. She's like

600
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>the interesting person to sit with it at dinner party.

601
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>It's funny. This week, she was talking about her husband

602
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 1>and Shemia saying, Samia always says she sees my husband

603
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>outside of the house, but when he's outside of the house,

604
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you know who he sees Shemia so da da da da.

605
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So I've heard she says he keept. She said, when

606
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>my husband's outside of the house. I was like, is

607
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>he not allowed to leave the house? Like she keeps

608
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>saying she sees my husband outside and when she sees

609
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>my husband outside of my house. I was like, it

610
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.279
<v Speaker 1>was just the hilarious the way she was talking about it.

611
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Shemiah's husband owns an HVAC company too,

612
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 2>doesn't he.

613
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh, but he's like does airports and stuff.

614
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 2>I know again, let's go back to each fact. Like

615
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the place to be watch What Happens Live.

616
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Rosie was on there with Shemiah and Andy said to Rosie,

617
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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at the HVAC Queen of Rhode Island. Rosie,

618
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it went over her head. She's like, why it's not

619
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<v Speaker 1>an h FAC. She's like, no, she MEA's husband owns

620
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.079
<v Speaker 1>every HPAC thing in the state of Rhode Island.

621
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<v Speaker 2>Dumb. Yeah, she could have gotten some sort of deal.

622
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Rosie's like huh. She is like, Oh, I can't deal

623
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>dumb people. I gotta go their house. Y'all.

624
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Summer is here and this is when I flip my

625
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>closet around. I flip it around every summer, and I

626
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 1>always stop and go through things and think what am

627
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 1>I really wearing and what am I not wearing. What

628
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I constantly reach for are the lighter fabrics, the better materials,

629
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<v Speaker 1>The Valley. So, so, guys, we record this on Wednesday.

654
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 1>The Valley comes out Wednesday nights. As you know, I've

655
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 1>asked and begged.

656
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, have I talked to on the phone two

657
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>days ago.

658
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't get screeners.

659
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>What who? Yeah, I know, pase uh Lacy? Oh?

660
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

661
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Why we have a friend in common and so my

662
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 2>friend Evelyn said, I think that you'd really like her.

663
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, chat out with her for a little bit.

664
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is she gonna come on the show?

665
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I think she is. She lives in your area, right,

666
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 2>she lives very close and we know a lot of

667
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 2>friends in common.

668
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's all right. Interesting, Well that's good. Well, Valley,

669
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm so obsessed with Danny's situation, and you and I

670
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>have discussed this ad nauseum. But this past week, which

671
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 1>would have been not this episode that was out Wednesday night,

672
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>because again I don't get screeners. This particular episode of

673
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>this podcast comes out on Thursdays. But last week again

674
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>him saying I'm not drinking, I'm having water, and they

675
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 1>show him in the kitchen pouring Tito's into us cup.

676
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 1>And then at the other event, I'm not drinking. Da

677
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 1>da da da. And they show him with a white

678
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 1>claw walking around and going hiding in the gym to drink.

679
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>It just makes me feel sad.

680
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Nia can't avoid she can't ignore this evidence, right,

681
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the evidence being like, yes, he does drink, but everybody

682
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:40.599
<v Speaker 1>else drinks and does crazy things too, which is a

683
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>fantastic point. But the point that they're trying to make

684
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>is he's lying to your face about it, right. It's

685
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like Rula and her husband, like here

686
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 1>is video evidence, but just the.

687
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Same, I don't think Nia cares. I think she's so

688
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 2>committed to like, what if there are problems, we will

689
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>discuss this off camera with our therapist, which again, you

690
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't got a reality show then sorry.

691
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, uh huh yeah. I think he's gonna have a

692
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 1>lot to answer for with the reunion because.

693
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>He's going to be on a beta blocker, that one's

694
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna be on a baby.

695
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's gonna he's gonna be on all the things.

696
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>But for him to be so like, oh, everybody else

697
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>can do it and I can't. And then it was

698
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:25.079
<v Speaker 1>interesting too. He sits down with Jesse and Schwartz and

699
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Jesse's like, you can do whatever you want around me. Man,

700
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Like it's fine, right, because you're not a woman that

701
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>he's grossing. Right, I'm sure it's fun for you, but

702
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>he's not a fun drunk. He's not He's not fun.

703
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>He was being so gross at that dinner they went

704
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to and they were out of town wherever they were,

705
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>San Diego, and he was looking at Michelle and goes,

706
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:48.199
<v Speaker 1>duncan no, Kai's junk. I was like, you can't even speak,

707
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>there's lurring so bad.

708
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have a theory. Well, I think

709
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>he reminds me of Tom Cruise. They're Tom Cruise and

710
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Holmes, Like she's just like got to play the part.

711
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>And he's I think he's very actually very religious. I

712
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>know that his father and grandfather are heavily involved in

713
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the family church, and people have done investigations on things

714
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that have happened and like connected to the church. And yeah,

715
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 2>he's a part of a megachurch. That doesn't mean people

716
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>in megachurches are, you know, terrible. It's just I think

717
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that the combination of like growing up in a home

718
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 2>with very strict set of rules and then you come

719
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>out west and you marry somebody who was in the

720
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>pageant world, and it's all about like maintaining the image.

721
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>That to me is very, very worrisome. It is, And

722
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I think he's gonna end up be a preacher. By

723
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the way, I'm going to say five year he's gonna

724
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 2>go off TV. It'll be a preacher.

725
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you've said that. I can't in any possible

726
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>way or form see that before me. Now, yes he is,

727
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 1>he is, and he's I want to say that her

728
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 1>to be like, well, he'd had too many drinks and

729
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:11.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like the way he talked to me. Okay,

730
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 1>well you guys were at the theme park and he

731
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was speaking to you rudely. Did he have too many drinks? Then?

732
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And we saw him of his loves a white claw.

733
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>That man loves a white claw.

734
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I had a white claw sip one day and I

735
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel like it was anything delicious, Like it's gasoline adjacent. No,

736
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>what it is.

737
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 1>It's what people don't know understand about White Claus is

738
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 1>white claw is still like a malt liquor product. So

739
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it is still going to give you the same effect

740
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of like a beer. Right high dunes are or there's

741
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 1>another one of my kids like called something like Sunrise

742
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:59.639
<v Speaker 1>or something surf side, surf side, okay, hens and surf

743
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 1>such a vodka based products. So like a high noon

744
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 1>is going to be like a like a vodka cran basically,

745
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's the better way to go.

746
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 2>But like one you would get at a bar. Yeah, yeah,

747
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 2>so somebody could be having like ten of those, yes,

748
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 2>but it's not the same of having like a vodka

749
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>cranberry at a bar, like ten of them.

750
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so. I don't think the alcohol

751
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>content is that. I don't think it's like a full

752
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 1>SHOT's worth of vodka in each high noons.

753
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to gauge like how much alcohol we're talking,

754
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you know.

755
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would imagine that because people say, like if

756
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 1>you get a mixed drink or a glass of wine

757
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 1>or a beer, it's all the same amount of alcohol.

758
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, but it probably also depends on twelve ounce

759
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>of this, eight ounce of that, you know whatever. But

760
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that he loves a white cloth so much.

761
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's hilarious that they keep

762
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>showing him with a white clause and then on this

763
00:37:54.639 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>episode last week when when Jasmine found that white claw

764
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>in the bathroom. It's like, why is this white claw

765
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 1>in your gym bathroom? And they show him going up

766
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>with it like he's hiding it, and he's pouring vodka

767
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 1>into a water glass, saying out loud he's drinking water

768
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and then looking over at the camera to see if

769
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the camera season like it's all bad.

770
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 2>This just makes me very sad, it's all bad.

771
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes me real triggered, real trigger. That whole

772
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 1>drinking tequila in the closet, you know, and he's always

773
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>got an excuse, always got an excuse. Everybody else if

774
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 1>they're drinking, they're just like, okay, well you know, uh

775
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Luke was drunk or Kristin was drunk or they you know.

776
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>But he's very specifically hiding. I'm kind of obsessed with

777
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to find out this week, like every

778
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>week it's something new.

779
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it feels like a true grind doc.

780
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes it does. Are you interested at all in

781
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>anyone else's storyline? I'm interested to know if Michelle is

782
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 1>actually going out.

783
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>With doctor Dre That I'm interested in. And I like

784
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Laala and Michelle's friendship. I think that's good they both

785
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>need a good friend.

786
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

787
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I just think Luke and Kristen's support of Nia and

788
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Danny is just very I'm like, are they trying to

789
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>be members of the Mega Church? Like, I don't know,

790
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.599
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of weird, but that the show is also

791
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.239
<v Speaker 2>weird too, like their loyalties, like Channon and Jason seem

792
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to be like really supportive of Jack's and I never

793
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 2>really understood that, So I don't know, they're all kind

794
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>of weird. I have liked highlighting postpartum because I think

795
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:36.559
<v Speaker 2>that's important. I agree.

796
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, people are like the show is so dark and boring,

797
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm that's life, man, this is life

798
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in your thirties. This is where you are when you

799
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>have little kids.

800
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 2>This is right.

801
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>It is dark and depressing, but you get through it.

802
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But this is what they're doing. They're dealing with little

803
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 1>little kids.

804
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I do think that maybe Luke is the father of

805
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Lalla's baby, and I don't know if that's a good thing.

806
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>We've got to find out how she find that out.

807
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>I did hear a rumor that they like reveal it

808
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>at the reunion or something stupid like that, that they

809
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that they that that's not Luke, you are not the father.

810
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay, good well if I if, I hope

811
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>if that happens, like that can happen, because I will,

812
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I will. I'm sitting on that.

813
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I would. I will release that footage. And I did

814
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 1>see Andy Cohen say after the Summerhouse Reunion that it

815
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>was Jennifer Lawrence that figured out who the person was

816
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that leaks the audio from the Summerhouse reunion.

817
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 2>How would she know? I don't understand that. Maybe she

818
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 2>knows the makeup person or something.

819
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, interesting right.

820
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, she must have been like, oh, I

821
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 2>talked to this makeup person who did my makeup and

822
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 2>then they told me that so and so sent it

823
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to so and so. Yeah, it must be like that.

824
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 1>It must be like that. It's crazy.

825
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that Lawrence listens to Bravo podcasts?

826
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Well, I mean I don't know. She probably yeah,

827
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say yeah, not this one, but probably.

828
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.239
<v Speaker 2>If she's like a mix Bravo super fan, I don't think. Yeah.

829
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, before we started, she said, you had a story

830
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to tell you?

831
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, this is crazy. Okay. So I did

832
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 2>an episode like two weeks ago for Saturday series episode

833
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 2>where I was asking Jonathan Mark about like some houses

834
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that I've lived in, including my mom's house, which I

835
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't live in my mom grew up in, about like

836
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like who was honking them anyway? I did the episode

837
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and Alie sends me a DM. She goes, oh my god,

838
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned I didn't realize like you lived grew up

839
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>close to where we're from. Uh, we totally know my

840
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>sister's and I totally know the house that your mom

841
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>grew up in, and we which house on Fenerton Road

842
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And I said one O two and she's like, oh

843
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 2>my god, I used to smoke. We'd at that house.

844
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And in the episode to talk about I saw a

845
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>woman in the old woman in the third floor window,

846
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and I walked outside and I asked my mom, like,

847
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>who's the old woman upstairs? My mom was like, I

848
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're talking about. Scary.

849
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

850
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I like totally know that house and I'm like, oh,

851
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 2>the basement. I would never go in it. She's like, yeah,

852
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 2>basement was weird. And then she also knew my mom's

853
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>childhood home and as why we were dming before this started.

854
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>She noted that the family that now lives in the house,

855
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's gonna be a second part that we're gonna

856
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 2>have to do this, but tell me everything serious because

857
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 2>it ties to a story that I've never been able

858
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to figure out about someone in my family that last

859
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 2>name matched. And I said to has that family lived

860
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 2>in that street before they bought that house? And she

861
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.159
<v Speaker 2>said yes. So I think I may finally crack the

862
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>code on like a family secret.

863
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love a family secret.

864
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I love a family secret too. I love it, and

865
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd like other people's secrets. Like if someone's like, oh,

866
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I've just got this weird family thing going on, I'm like,

867
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I will cancel meetings to come and listen to you

868
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and talk to you about your family secrets.

869
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I am very also, very obsessed with bad mother in

870
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 1>law stories.

871
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh there was a fun yes, yes, yeah, I.

872
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Love that mother in law story. I didn't have a

873
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>bad mother in law and neither did you.

874
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, my first time I did.

875
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I forgot she had the first one seconds.

876
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh she he did me and I did not

877
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>enjoy her. She was terrible.

878
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I love those stories. I think they're fascinating.

879
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Some of us, like, I just had a conversation with

880
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 1>my son recently, like in the last week, talking about

881
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>something with his girlfriend. And I said, well, I don't

882
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 1>want to text her. I don't want to overstep or whatever.

883
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 1>He goes, Mom, who cares, you Just text her and

884
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>ask her. It's about her, the girl's trip, she's coming

885
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>here to visit us. I was like, well, I don't

886
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>want to bug you know, she's got her own parents

887
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>that can buger about it.

888
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

889
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 1>He goes, Oh, you could, you could text her? And

890
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, John, let me tell you what. I'm cool

891
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm dipping in when I'm needed. I'm dipping out

892
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>when not needed. When it comes to you and any girl,

893
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 1>because we will not have the situation where you get

894
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 1>married to somebody and have kids and I'm not included.

895
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>It is gonna be fifty to fifty equal time. It

896
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 1>happens a lot. Yeah, where when your son gets married

897
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>they ditch you. And I said, oh, man, that's gonna

898
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>hurt and it's not gonna happen. And he's like, Mom,

899
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I would never do that to you. I I don't

900
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 1>know the power.

901
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I've cut those conversations with Jack too. He's only fourteen,

902
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 2>who's going to high school? What? I go, what what

903
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 2>are you going to do if this broad doesn't like me?

904
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, why would I marry somebody who doesn't

905
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>like you? I go, you're gonna be surprised.

906
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>It happens all the time.

907
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Now.

908
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I ingratiate myself like it's a total kiss off and

909
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>try to get whoever John has ever dated to like

910
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>me and the current girlfriend likes me just fine. But

911
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I was just telling him.

912
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I.

913
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't, I don't know if you'll

914
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 1>marry this girl. You're very young, baby, you will, but

915
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I got I gotta, I gotta lay the foundation that

916
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool, I'm chill, I'm not bugging, just as involved

917
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>as you want me to be. I was like, because

918
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't go and get married and move some very

919
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>very far away from me and not let me see

920
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:57.119
<v Speaker 1>my grandchildren.

921
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I watched this girl's video on TikTok and wish I

922
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 2>could find it, and she did a really good job,

923
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and people at first wear hating on her because she's like, listen,

924
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I have one of the greatest mother in laws in history,

925
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to tell you why, and people, you

926
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>know obviously were like, oh, happy for you, you know,

927
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 2>but she was very informative. She said, here's why, and

928
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.079
<v Speaker 2>it was basically like she, you know, she'll come over

929
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 2>to watch my kids, and she never criticizes the way

930
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I parent. She you know, she like adheres to anything

931
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.559
<v Speaker 2>that I ask, you know, she never goes off script.

932
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 2>She respects the things that I ask. She if she

933
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 2>comes over, she always gives us fair, fair, you know, warning.

934
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>She makes sure that I always have great gifts at

935
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the holidays. It was like all these little things and

936
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, this is really helpful. Yes, this

937
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:49.320
<v Speaker 2>is fit.

938
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes girl, yeah, yeah, I did I do that. I

939
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's why I love a bad mother in law story.

940
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, neither one of my sisters have

941
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>bad mother in laws eat, but you know, they also

942
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>have kids that are now grown up and having kids,

943
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and all of those experiences swing wildly with like being

944
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 1>included or not being included. And I'm like, I'm watching

945
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 1>and learning from everybody I know. Like I've told John,

946
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen. I'll move next door if I

947
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>have to, and I don't want to have to.

948
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have to do that. You've had

949
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of luck because you really, you know, you

950
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>really like his girlfriends, so that's really good.

951
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do like her a lot.

952
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So by the way, I've got to I've got to

953
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>start figuring out what we're gonna do for the fall

954
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:34.840
<v Speaker 2>visiting Almoss.

955
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 1>I know, Dave literally, my husband just asked me last night.

956
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>He said, uh, Kate's daughter is going to come and

957
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>look at all. Miss I said, yeah, I said, we

958
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>got to. He goes, well, she knows that she can't

959
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>come on a football game weekend because they'll never get

960
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 1>a place to stay.

961
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know we might not be able to

962
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>go on a football weekend, but it doesn't really matter.

963
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>We still get the feel of it.

964
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Ready, Yeah, you just look at the feel of it,

965
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and a football game weekend is super fun. But you know,

966
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>do you want to spend ten thousand dollars on an

967
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>airbnb for two nights?

968
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Probably? Not? Right?

969
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Crazy?

970
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah and crazy, And there'll be plenty of time to

971
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the football games. And it's not like we don't

972
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.760
<v Speaker 2>have a great football team, so we'll just figure out.

973
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Probably the game, like when they have an away game,

974
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 2>our team goes to like Las Vegas and Hawaii and

975
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>all these crazy places. So we'll just do it like

976
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>when they're away, and then she doesn't miss.

977
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>The game, right because she can't miss her games because

978
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>she's on the dance squad, dance team.

979
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's called song song, which is really very confusing.

980
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 2>It's called it's called dance song or just called just

981
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>called song. It's like a song leader. It's short for

982
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>song leader, which is like I think a term that

983
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.159
<v Speaker 2>probably came from the South and then the Northeast, like

984
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>when you know, like George Bush, remember he was like

985
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 2>a cheerleader song leader with the big megaphone, like, yes,

986
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>that was my dad. I think it maybe originates from

987
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 2>those those early days. But song basically is a hybrid

988
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>of cheer and dance. So I think like a Laker.

989
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Girl love it. I love it. The sororities love a

990
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>girl that can dance and put together a routine.

991
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>To tell you that much, can I just tell you

992
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 2>one last thing. There's this girl that was sort of

993
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:14.039
<v Speaker 2>like a just not my favorite girl, and she is

994
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>a year ahead, and.

995
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 1>She's she's a person in your daughter's age or a

996
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 1>person she was your age and me and old.

997
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You're like yeah, I like, I want to go to

998
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Ole miss you know, and the girl be like, oh,

999
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.000
<v Speaker 2>why wan't you go there? And guess where that girl's going.

1000
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>It's all miss Yeah, We'll make sure to give you

1001
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>your name and a blackballer just kidding.

1002
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:38.800
<v Speaker 2>You think I didn't think of that already, but I

1003
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 2>just okay now and changing your tune. Okay, okay.

1004
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a great college.

1005
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 2>She's very pumped. She started. She started a by the

1006
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 2>way sub stack with her photography. Yesterday she went to

1007
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the wedge. They were like twenty foot waves. She took

1008
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>beautiful surfing photos like brilliant nice Mia did mea did? Yeah? Good?

1009
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. Yeah, y'all.

1010
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when I go to put on actuable makeup, when

1011
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving the house and trying to look human, I

1012
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 1>realize I have way too many products. And then I

1013
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 1>try some of these products I have, and I realize

1014
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>these beauty products are not made for ladies of a

1015
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>certain age, and I end up looking like I put

1016
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>spackle on my face. But ever since I started using

1017
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Jones Road Miracle Bomb, my routine is simplified and I

1018
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 1>don't look like I painted my face with a spackle brush.

1019
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Miracle Bomb has replaced several steps for me because you

1020
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can use it as a highlighter, a bronzer, a blush,

1021
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 1>and a lip tint. I keep my little pot a

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00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:38.679
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1024
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:41.719
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<v Speaker 1>out for a girls' night? But you also don't want

1030
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.599
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<v Speaker 1>your skin, which is what I need. I cannot stand

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<v Speaker 1>head to Jones Road Beauty dot com and use code

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<v Speaker 1>pink shade at checkout. After you purchase, they will ask

1048
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 1>where you heard about them. Please support our show and

1049
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>tell them that we sent you. You guys. This last year,

1050
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Kate and I had a was it last year? It

1051
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was like December January?

1052
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like the winter.

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00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We had a spinoff podcast called tell Me Everything,

1054
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and you could find it on both of our Patreon

1055
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and pay fees. You could find its same content both places,

1056
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>so if you subscribe to hers or mine, you would

1057
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>find it. And the point was for us just to

1058
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 1>tell each other stories like we do on the phone.

1059
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.679
<v Speaker 1>And people loved it, and so I said it would

1060
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:37.760
<v Speaker 1>come back this summer, but we haven't done it.

1061
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we need to do it. We need to do it.

1062
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 2>We need to do it. We've got a lot of

1063
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 2>stuff simmering over the last couple of weeks months, so

1064
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot to tell.

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00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Also, I want to tell you, face to face how

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00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 1>proud I am a view of your Vanity Fair article.

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00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

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00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I was just dying because you know, you and I

1069
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and very similar in that Vanity Fair would come and

1070
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:03.159
<v Speaker 1>that's it. I'm sad. I was so excited when Graydon

1071
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Carter's book came out, like me too, very very very

1072
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 1>into Vanity Fairs. Still still get it paper to this house.

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00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 1>And I was so excited that you got to write

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00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that article and tell everybody like what the article is about.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's about the Martha Moxley case, a lifelong obsession

1076
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 2>of mine that originated when I was in high school

1077
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and my sister started talk to me about it, and

1078
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I got a season of Purgatory written by Dominic Dunn,

1079
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>who then later recovered this murder case extensively for Vanity Fair.

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00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Long story short October thirtieth, nineteen seventy five. A girl

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<v Speaker 2>by the name of Martha Moxley leaves her neighbor's house,

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00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the Scahole House, to go home and somewhere along the

1083
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.159
<v Speaker 2>way she was murdered and the weapon was a golf club,

1084
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and so they traced the golf clubs back to the

1085
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Scaho house. And it's notable that the Scaehol kids were

1086
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the first cousins of Robert Kennedy's children, so there's a connection.

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00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>There's this tony town in Connecticut called Greenwich, and you've

1088
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 2>got power and balance because the Moxley famili's only been

1089
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 2>in town for two years. They came from California, and

1090
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the neighbors have kind of a wild house because rushedn' skaygold.

1091
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.079
<v Speaker 2>The father was married to his wife Anne. They had

1092
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 2>seven children and dies of breast cancer. No one ever

1093
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 2>discusses it. In this very catholic home. Everyone's sort of

1094
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 2>running amuck. He's an alcoholic, he's barely running the company well,

1095
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and this crime happens. So Dominic Dunn covered the case

1096
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 2>extensively for Vanity Fair and there was a trial and

1097
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.159
<v Speaker 2>then Michael, one of the boys, went to jail and

1098
00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 2>then he was released. The case will not be you know,

1099
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 2>he will not be retried. So in covering the case

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00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 2>for my own episode, I did two episodes with the

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00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 2>narrator of a podcast series on the case called Dead Certain,

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00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.800
<v Speaker 2>And I kept thinking about the history of the coverage

1103
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 2>of the case. All of the prosecutors, the defense, the reporters,

1104
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 2>the judge, they were all men. So one of the

1105
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 2>pieces of the evidence that was used in the case

1106
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 2>were her diary entries. So I revisited all of those

1107
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:11.159
<v Speaker 2>diary entries, which were written in the weeks before she

1108
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>was murdered, and looking through the lens of the contemporaneous

1109
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 2>writings of a fifteen year old girl, because I noticed

1110
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 2>when people talked about it, some of the nuances were

1111
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 2>missed because of course they were not women. So I

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00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 2>encourage you to go back and read it, because what

1113
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I think the standout thing is a lot of the

1114
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>same issues she was facing, my own mother faced, and

1115
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:38.719
<v Speaker 2>our children are facing about the understanding that we language

1116
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 2>that we now have a lot of it due to

1117
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 2>true crime documentaries, of course, of like coerceive control and

1118
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>male entitlement and navigating a world where you're beginning, you know,

1119
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:52.440
<v Speaker 2>you've just come out of puberty and you're coming into

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00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:58.039
<v Speaker 2>your own and not really being oblivious to boys and

1121
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 2>men and when they're unchecked, what could happen and what

1122
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:05.840
<v Speaker 2>did happen. So it's very special to me, and I

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00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 2>hope I can write some more pieces. And my dream,

1124
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 2>my dream, dream dream is to sell a series based

1125
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 2>on a treatment that I wrote about the case. But

1126
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Vinnity Fair was a dream of mine since I was

1127
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.360
<v Speaker 2>sixteen years old. So I had this bottles of champagne

1128
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that I've kept and I refuse to open it until

1129
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.400
<v Speaker 2>something big happened and I so I can finally crack

1130
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.159
<v Speaker 2>it open. I've been waiting for my husband to come

1131
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 2>home because he was on two business trips, but I,

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00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, this weekend, maybe I'll crack it open. You should.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be so proud. It's really great. It's really great.

1134
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I keep telling you, like, don't forget about me when

1135
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<v Speaker 1>you make it back.

1136
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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's hope I do. Lately. You know, it was

1137
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of funny with the article too, like some people

1138
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:49.119
<v Speaker 2>wrote things that I was like what they were like,

1139
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to see your careers beginning.

1140
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what you're like, girl, I've been around

1141
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:57.599
<v Speaker 1>ten years, man.

1142
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Ten years that well, previous to that, I did you

1143
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 2>know crisis media litigation for law firms for seventeen so

1144
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, it's like it's been a long,

1145
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:08.760
<v Speaker 2>long long thing.

1146
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 1>What a life, Kate, What a life?

1147
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so many children, And there were many years where

1148
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I was still doing crisis media litigation and the podcast,

1149
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.440
<v Speaker 2>so both of them, and then raising children. So you know,

1150
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 2>this is not easy to be a woman in business.

1151
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:26.960
<v Speaker 2>It is not easy to be a woman in podcasting.

1152
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And there were many years where I was navigating a

1153
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.000
<v Speaker 2>job that was paying with the job that I wanted

1154
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 2>to one day be you know, paid for, while raising

1155
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>little kids. And I actually had set My number four

1156
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.960
<v Speaker 2>was a year old when I started my podcast, and

1157
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I had another child, my fifth in you know after

1158
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is your youngest child?

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00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Seven? Okay?

1161
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 1>How old your oldest child?

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00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Almost seventeen? Okay, so they're nine years because kick Caroline

1163
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 2>is almost eight, so yeah, nine years.

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00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I always try to uh name your children because somehow

1165
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I always forget one. But well it's yeah, Caroline Hayes,

1166
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Sutton or the three because I always got Jack and

1167
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 1>me Hu and the Carolin Hayz and Sutton. Somehow I

1168
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>will always just so well, I know, but somehow I'll

1169
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.559
<v Speaker 1>be like, what is that other one's name?

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00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

1171
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:23.599
<v Speaker 1>You gotta gotta gotta remember your friend's kids' names. It's like,

1172
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:26.039
<v Speaker 1>I just those three little ones, they're like the three

1173
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:27.559
<v Speaker 1>little Plath girls live left loff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they are, except the three and four they get

1175
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:35.960
<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're tight, and one and two they have

1176
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:36.679
<v Speaker 2>got their own thing.

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00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>But then two and five of their own thing too. Anyway,

1178
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>But you're just like the duggers. You just get hand

1179
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 1>like this one's gotta raise that one.

1180
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Some woman said to me yesterday. I was like, this

1181
00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 2>is such a weird. She goes, I feel like the

1182
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.239
<v Speaker 2>new flex is saying, you have a lot of kids.

1183
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 1>That's been, that's been.

1184
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>The flex is the flex when you're drowning in stress

1185
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 2>because you have to get them in activities in school

1186
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and all this, Like what is the flex with that? Sorry?

1187
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<v Speaker 2>Oh god.

1188
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>When I was in Mississippi recently, I wentn't surprised my

1189
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:09.519
<v Speaker 1>mom for her birthday. I was only there for like

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00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:11.599
<v Speaker 1>a day and a half. I went with my sister

1191
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to pick up her grandson, so my niece's son, and

1192
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.880
<v Speaker 1>they were in the middle of like vacation Bible school,

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00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and as you go through the vacation Bible School. I

1194
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I remember when vacation Bible

1195
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:26.679
<v Speaker 1>school time. We were just constantly looking to see so

1196
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:28.559
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to make get our kids in all the

1197
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 1>vacation Bible schools because usually they were free, and they

1198
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 1>would be like nine to twelve. And you're like, Okay,

1199
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<v Speaker 1>I got this week blocked off for the Baptist vacation

1200
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Bible School. I got this week blocked off for the

1201
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Presbyterian Vacation Bible School. I was like, whether you like

1202
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it or not, you're getting a lot of Jesus this week.

1203
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Nine to twelve.

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00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.960
<v Speaker 2>God, what vacation Bible school is always really fun. I

1205
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.079
<v Speaker 2>remember that rest time yest time.

1206
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So that just like brought me back about just trying

1207
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:56.599
<v Speaker 1>to get that schedule down to get this kid and

1208
00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.679
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, John's almost old enough for vacation Bible school.

1209
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and I have a whole morning.

1210
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so true, so true, so true.

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<v Speaker 1>Young moms, we see you out there, just we watch

1212
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:09.519
<v Speaker 1>the valley. We know it's hard.

1213
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.800
<v Speaker 2>It is hard. Yeah to all those people that shows

1214
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:14.880
<v Speaker 2>too dark, Well, what do you think women in their

1215
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 2>thirties experience?

1216
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>It's rough, it's rough. Anything else we should know to watch.

1217
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, documentary is called Bring Me the Beauties, the Model Cult,

1218
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:29.280
<v Speaker 2>So to watch that. That's about a weirdo. Oh. Maternal

1219
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Instinct comes out of Friday. It's like a true crime

1220
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:36.440
<v Speaker 2>one episode doc on Netflix about a woman, a new mother.

1221
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.159
<v Speaker 2>It's I can't I don't explain it. I just want

1222
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you to watch it. It comes out Friday. Maternal Instinct.

1223
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's you know how the crash everybody talked

1224
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.800
<v Speaker 2>about the crash. Maternal Instinct is the next one.

1225
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I'm still obsessed with the crash, still listening

1226
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to stuff about that.

1227
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1228
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I just finished listening to the Love Trapped podcast.

1229
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>We know I interviewed Clayton.

1230
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do. And I thought I knew everything about

1231
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:05.719
<v Speaker 1>it until I'll listened to that podcast. I was like, Wow,

1232
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.800
<v Speaker 1>there was so much more. I did not know so much,

1233
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and I really I really liked kind of At the

1234
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>last one of the last two episodes, the host was like,

1235
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, one word we've not used is and then

1236
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 1>you have all these clips of people saying crazy, this

1237
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Lade's crazy, this woman's crazy. God, this this bitch is crazy,

1238
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's like, we haven't we specifically, haven't

1239
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:29.000
<v Speaker 1>said that at all, because then it goes into kind

1240
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of a whole like believing women overall else And it

1241
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 1>was very interesting how they touched on that at the end.

1242
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:39.159
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so at the end the last episode, they

1243
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 1>were like, there's going to be this hearing on May

1244
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>twentieth or something. I was like, well, what happened?

1245
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have to update that. I remember

1246
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:51.360
<v Speaker 2>when he was talking about that. Yeah, it's really like

1247
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 2>a never ending case.

1248
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it keeps people.

1249
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I was worried about him. I said, I'm worried. And

1250
01:00:57.639 --> 01:00:59.280
<v Speaker 2>then I was like, maybe I shouldn't have highlighted it,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's just call space of space. I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want your first experience with your partner, when you

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<v Speaker 2>find out that you're going to be parents, to somehow

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<v Speaker 2>be diminished that joy because of what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully not.

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<v Speaker 2>I hopefully not.

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<v Speaker 1>That other guy was okay, I got Mike, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the other victim. Yeah, yeah, he's ahead a nice wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Layton is a very very nice guy. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>him a lot. That's good. And then this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise to you. I ended up feeling like I

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<v Speaker 2>was his life coach.

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<v Speaker 1>No surprise, surprise, everybody. Make sure you're following kk C.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kk C c A and what's your.

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<v Speaker 2>Substack KKC dot substack dot com. This is super important.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love for people to sign up. It is

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<v Speaker 2>free and you just get a weekly email of what

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<v Speaker 2>you should watch each week, and I do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of articles. I just Summer Reading list

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<v Speaker 2>where lots of books I recommend for the summertime that

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<v Speaker 2>are that's that's really great too. I've met any friends

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<v Speaker 2>that I've met who have written books, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>love for people to support them, all female writers, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm currently reading Katherine Socket's new book, The Calamity Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really good so far, really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know you're a good reader too. You always

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<v Speaker 2>have good stuff. Have you read Chill Piazza's books?

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<v Speaker 1>She sent me that one she did, Yeah, she sent

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<v Speaker 1>me that one and I took it to the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I put on my bedside table. So when I go there,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll have a I'll have a next book. But I

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<v Speaker 1>felt loyalty that I had to read Catherine's first.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna like it. She's like us. She has a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast too, going to our show. She is. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about her sending a book to you. Really

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to love her?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good. Once I read that book, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>her on because it's about Paris and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite city.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, she would love it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, make sure you're following Kate. Make sure you're following

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<v Speaker 1>me at Paint Shade Pod on Instagram and links is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much, Kate, Thank you him