Speaker 1: On a.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the CEO pre show for episode four sixty seven,
Speaker 2: four sixty.
Speaker 1: Eight for sixty seven and eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to do a double for a double
Speaker 2: number of weeks, plus an extra one because of holidays,
Speaker 2: plus a vacation that I didn't even pick. But alas
Speaker 2: I am going.
Speaker 3: On, holy shit, Yeah, yeah, am I going?
Speaker 2: No Ah, I would like you to go instead of
Speaker 2: maybe Rebecca's parents.
Speaker 1: I wasn't invited.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I do like them. Anyways, We're
Speaker 2: brought to you by the wonderful patrons at patreon dot
Speaker 2: com slash cecal podcast. Whether they like it or not, yes,
Speaker 2: and it turns out that they do. We had a
Speaker 2: fantastic time in Calgary last weekend. The CEO Experience Calgary
Speaker 2: tons up on. We're gonna do a little bit of
Speaker 2: a recap on the show, but I wanted to, I guess,
Speaker 2: since we're doing a double pre show, do a double
Speaker 2: thank you to the patrons who either joined us because
Speaker 2: we invited them because they're awesome.
Speaker 1: There were many.
Speaker 2: Yep and or the people that we saw who who
Speaker 2: were part of CECO nation that weren't there for the
Speaker 2: experience but were at the convention there.
Speaker 3: Were even more many of them.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the couple people that reached out through coffee
Speaker 2: dot Com slash commander cougo to donate. I bought some
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say beer. I'm going to say some chips.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say what else did we get? Uh? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: There's cookies.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of cookies. Yeah, which is a
Speaker 2: new thing that we've never had at the experience before.
Speaker 1: They're good.
Speaker 2: Yes, sink guy's wife sink. Yes. New nickname though, new
Speaker 2: nickname five in the morning, a little bit of alcohol
Speaker 2: induced if new nickname nutter butter mama. What or nutter
Speaker 2: butter mummy. I think that sounds more dirty, right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: nutter butter mommy because of all of the cookies that
Speaker 2: she was making that had butter in them, but no nuts.
Speaker 2: Because maybe somebody's allergic. And we're not about somebody going
Speaker 2: into anaphylactic shock at the CCO experience.
Speaker 1: The other kinds of shock maybe.
Speaker 2: Yes, two damage to the dome for one red manna
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, Yes, that is the kind of shot.
Speaker 2: Yes, shock when you get out of the hot tub
Speaker 2: or into the hot tub.
Speaker 3: Shock when you get into the hot tub and all
Speaker 3: that chlorine hits you and your eyes don't open all
Speaker 3: the way for the Yeah, seventy.
Speaker 2: Three hours my eyeballs. Yeah, it was terrible. But we
Speaker 2: did hot tub. That was a whole thing. So I
Speaker 2: don't know, we're gonna talk about it on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of things I wanted to go
Speaker 2: over on the pre show, but I understand that you
Speaker 2: have played some more Jumpstart type stuff or foundations.
Speaker 3: I cracked a few. I took only card. I took
Speaker 3: only decks to E. H and M this Thursday that
Speaker 3: have new.
Speaker 1: Cards in them, yep, and foundation cards, Foundation cards and
Speaker 1: one jump Start card.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say that I played four games
Speaker 3: and unequivocally dumpstered everybody four times in an evening, but
Speaker 3: that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Oh yep, oh yeah, do tell oh man, so.
Speaker 2: Tell us tell us some magic story. We are a
Speaker 2: remember when we were a Magic the Gathering podcast.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these came down to really good openers, right.
Speaker 3: We had nor in the warry, Oh that's good, sol
Speaker 3: ring turn on which not?
Speaker 2: Nor in turn one? What do you do in that situation?
Speaker 1: Turn one?
Speaker 3: Turn got a lull them into the false sense of security,
Speaker 3: oh baby, because the think, oh he doesn't have sol ring,
Speaker 3: and then it's like turned two, it's turned to sol
Speaker 3: ring and then the new jump start Goblin. It's my
Speaker 3: favorite general lightning bolt to your face. Remember her name
Speaker 3: is that whenever a goblin attacks to make a goblin
Speaker 3: and then does a damage because the impact rumers two yep,
Speaker 3: and then turn three perferos And that was the end
Speaker 3: of that fucking game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll that'll do into that one.
Speaker 1: And then the next one was, uh, I like how.
Speaker 2: Producer Gary's in the booth and he's like laugh and
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't even know what this means, but
Speaker 2: I know that those words mean good things when they
Speaker 2: were all chained together in a sense.
Speaker 1: But I can tell that people are getting ficked up.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And then the second one was tour Brand. I actually
Speaker 1: had no business winning that game.
Speaker 3: Do you even like red do play some tour brand action?
Speaker 3: I forget what the new card I played from there was,
Speaker 3: but there was one, and I just kind of kind
Speaker 3: of eked out a win at the end.
Speaker 1: There it's like me and the other guys like you
Speaker 1: just fuck you die? Yes, check this song?
Speaker 2: Okay, I shall, I'm here.
Speaker 1: I have to listen playing brutal Clad game three.
Speaker 3: I think he said, brutoclad seven dwarves. What's better than
Speaker 3: cloning seven dwarves? Gary knows this one clone?
Speaker 2: Oh, cloning brash Taunter.
Speaker 1: Goddamn right.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: So by turn two I got two brash Hunters. One
Speaker 3: land sol ring signet never punished through a land brash Hunter,
Speaker 3: next turn clone brash Hunter. It's all I needed. Then
Speaker 3: all I had to do was wait for to play
Speaker 3: it to rastad On and that was the end of
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, Yeah, I tell you that right now.
Speaker 2: Brash to Hunter fights t astid On four times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, first I block him, then I fight him,
Speaker 3: and I'll kill that guy over there so that I
Speaker 3: can still fight your brash On.
Speaker 2: This is what I would say when terrascid on ETBs
Speaker 2: and destroys three target permanence. Guess who he can't destroy?
Speaker 1: So good?
Speaker 3: And the last game was a Coma game because I
Speaker 3: finished pimping out Coma. All of the counters are invocations now.
Speaker 2: And all like all Foil finished pimping yep. Even the
Speaker 2: tokens are they foil They are Congratulations you know what.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's like an unsung or an underappreciated
Speaker 2: part of expression and magic, mostly because people are like,
Speaker 2: why is your struck sinking whale? Ballard's probably you buying
Speaker 2: fifty eight Marvel secret. No, we're freaking poor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just we just work for our We work
Speaker 1: for stark credits ants on the internet, like Vicky.
Speaker 2: And I feel like foiling or choosing what kind of
Speaker 2: pimpage you want to do, Like for me, it's alters
Speaker 2: in my animar deck or old border foils for you,
Speaker 2: like getting all of your invocations done up.
Speaker 1: The less a card looks like a real magic card,
Speaker 1: the more.
Speaker 2: I like it. Yes, yes, that's the thing. You know
Speaker 2: what first frick, I would say, first way to enter
Speaker 2: to win the booster pack game. But if you haven't
Speaker 2: noticed which people have, we're kind of avoiding that because
Speaker 2: our entire postal service in the country is shut down
Speaker 2: right now, so we can't ship anything to you. We'd
Speaker 2: very much appreciate it if you commented, though, with what's
Speaker 2: your preferred pimpage method, And.
Speaker 3: Once we get these things sorted out, we'll just send
Speaker 3: some things out to some people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you get something in the mail, big thank
Speaker 1: you to you. It's but we can't do it right now.
Speaker 1: We don't want to just get too far into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I gotta touch on that on the
Speaker 2: show proper too, because people are gonna be waiting for
Speaker 2: like alters and stuff in the mail that they've won
Speaker 2: on auctions and commissions and stuff, and I can't right
Speaker 2: now unless anybody wants to pay ups or FedEx like
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars to ship a magic card.
Speaker 1: During Christmas time. Yeah that's oh yeah, big oof babies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyways, here's the ending of the Coma store that we
Speaker 3: were coming down to that last turn and I've got
Speaker 3: like seventeen thousand coils and it's just I've got.
Speaker 2: Enough that that is enough.
Speaker 3: And I had the esteemed privilege of activating a cryptic
Speaker 3: command picking three modes.
Speaker 1: Ooh Mode one yes, counter target spell, Yes, that would
Speaker 1: do it. That was the thing, bounced target thing that
Speaker 1: was going to get me.
Speaker 2: Also good Mode three. How come you've gotten a third mode?
Speaker 1: Target? Player quits the game? Yeah, got him big.
Speaker 3: Because it was it was it was pretty it was
Speaker 3: pretty backbreaking, it was pretty good.
Speaker 2: And what did you counter? Do you remember don't.
Speaker 3: It was something that would have made his debt go
Speaker 3: because like we had kind of kept him off doing
Speaker 3: his thing, and he played the thing that would make
Speaker 3: his na.
Speaker 2: Waited a second, hold on a second? Was this was
Speaker 2: this when you counter to spell that Corey played?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: And then he quit the game. Yes, left the store, Yes,
Speaker 2: directly to the coachman licensed beverage room for a drink.
Speaker 1: Correct, That is what happened.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, so it was a very good night of
Speaker 3: magic the gathering for me. We also cracked an entire
Speaker 3: box a jumpstart between the four of us.
Speaker 2: Didn't you already do that once?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I did that in Calgary. I got one and
Speaker 1: I got dumpstered.
Speaker 2: That's where you got your goblin yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then in.
Speaker 3: The store we got dumpstered again except goddamn bean opened
Speaker 3: my REV.
Speaker 1: So he has a rest.
Speaker 2: I don't I hear? I hear the the the people
Speaker 2: who don't know how to run removal online saying REV
Speaker 2: needs to be banned.
Speaker 1: What when are they going to ban this card?
Speaker 2: Do you think the new watzie Are Rules Committee is
Speaker 2: going to ban this card? No?
Speaker 1: No, no?
Speaker 2: If you think REV should be banned in Ragavana, have
Speaker 2: you seen Ragavan mind you? Rev is two colors right?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Uh oh the fling the fling herself one is is
Speaker 2: two colors, Yes, yes, rev is. Why why is that
Speaker 2: card good?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: I just think it's cool because I gets to draw
Speaker 3: my opponent's cards. That's why I want to play it.
Speaker 3: It makes a bet.
Speaker 2: You card, and you know what I bet you it was?
Speaker 2: I bet you it was.
Speaker 1: Oh, somebody took my favorite card. Somebody took my wind condition.
Speaker 1: I was off land for the whole.
Speaker 2: Game because I got attacked with Rev and every second
Speaker 2: turn it just happened to coincidentally be a land that
Speaker 2: in the nation is what we call getting dumpstered.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, but it's pretty good. Noverybody's like Jesus Brando,
Speaker 1: how how are you doing this?
Speaker 3: I was like foundations bitches, Yes, sir, and I meant skills,
Speaker 3: not the necessarily the set, but the set did help.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's some good new stuff. That new Goblin real good.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it provides redundancy, embodies Adam. It has
Speaker 2: all of the words written on the card to make
Speaker 2: the card go, and it's redundancy to a like tried
Speaker 2: and tested effect in Commander in a creature type that
Speaker 2: wants all of those things and it costs three, right,
Speaker 2: not like six?
Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah, very good, So that's very good.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty You updated your decks and you're waiting
Speaker 1: to plame. You're in for a.
Speaker 2: Treat, dude. I think I was stepping on dinks with
Speaker 2: high heels with the skin render in Calgary.
Speaker 1: How many times did you play Breuvak does he put
Speaker 1: in the course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, because it's a damage doubler. You put
Speaker 2: damage doublers in your burn decks, don't you. It's my
Speaker 2: blue damage doubler. In both games I laid skin render.
Speaker 2: Oh no, only in one did I get Brewvac. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the one with me, Yes, sir, and I
Speaker 2: had this. I had this scenario in my mind to
Speaker 2: remember before we started the game, and I said, this
Speaker 2: is like an agro Vultron deck, not a mill deck.
Speaker 2: And I was like, if I can go like soul
Speaker 2: ring signet turn one off an island island turned two,
Speaker 2: I go blue blue blue skin render turn three or
Speaker 2: turn two, turn three, play like a Brewvac and then
Speaker 2: a fire shrieker, like I could mill you for twenty
Speaker 2: and then mill you for eighty and like I could
Speaker 2: get you yeah, And I'm like, all right, wow, that's
Speaker 2: like seven card combo magical Christmas Land never gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And it didn't, No, it didn't. But I did get
Speaker 2: a turn three skin render it died. I got like
Speaker 2: a turn six skin render, and then on turn seven
Speaker 2: I top decked. Somewhere in between there, I topped decked
Speaker 2: a Brewvac and then somewhere in between turn six or
Speaker 2: seven again was top deck Bone Hoard. And I didn't
Speaker 2: even think that that card was going to be good.
Speaker 2: But every graveyard had like forty or fifty cards in it,
Speaker 2: and you were playing necro Bloom, so you were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mill me, mill me, and I top deck
Speaker 2: Bone Hoard and I read it plus x plus x
Speaker 2: for each creature card in all graveyards, yes, not defending
Speaker 2: players graveyard. I'm like, oh man, this, I guess this
Speaker 2: is literally the best card in the deck.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I thought that fire Shrieker or a double Damager was
Speaker 2: going to be but no, because my ten to one
Speaker 2: went up twenty one power and milled double. So he
Speaker 2: milled for sixty two and I killed everybody so dream
Speaker 2: scenario would have been faster if skin Render didn't die,
Speaker 2: though I wouldn't have drawn the bone hoard. I had
Speaker 2: the fire Shrieker in my hand, and it would have
Speaker 2: taken me extra attack instead of doing it all at once.
Speaker 2: So I guess, like which which which is better? Probably
Speaker 2: probably doing it all at once a turn later.
Speaker 1: All at once, probably for the best. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you just like cross your fingers that
Speaker 2: it doesn't die so you can cast and equip all
Speaker 2: at the same time. Because everybody was tapped out. Yep,
Speaker 2: that suckers. So the deck went good. I killed Mac
Speaker 2: with him lightning bolting me on the stack and I
Speaker 2: was at two. Yeah, he had lightning bulb, No, not
Speaker 2: lightning bull he had like dragons approach on the stack
Speaker 2: and his library was empty and I had a temple bell.
Speaker 2: So he's like, I'm gonna hit you for three. I'ma
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make everybody draw a card. And he died,
Speaker 2: and then the guy beside him went immediately killed me
Speaker 2: and then said go, and then the guy to my
Speaker 2: right immediately killed the guy who killed me. So the
Speaker 2: game ended right at the like everybody's critical turn. If
Speaker 2: I get another I will win, and for me, I
Speaker 2: don't mind when that happens, because A the game ends quickly.
Speaker 2: B everybody gets to or almost gets to do their thing.
Speaker 1: Yep, nobody can really complain about it. No, no, and
Speaker 1: it works and then you lose, at least.
Speaker 2: You exactly the game, Mac got everybody down to like
Speaker 2: twelve or so, and then one guy gained a bunch
Speaker 2: of life back up to thirty eight or forty US
Speaker 2: and everybody was low except for him because Dragon's Approach
Speaker 2: doesn't hit him right. And he's like, I've got a
Speaker 2: Dragon's Approach on the stack, but I've got zero cards
Speaker 2: in my library, so do what you want with that.
Speaker 2: And then he died, then the other guy died, then
Speaker 2: I died, and then the game was over.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about dragons approach this week on the show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yes, we are next week on the
Speaker 3: next week on the show, and some other dragons approaching things, given.
Speaker 2: That we have another one hair apparent. Yeah, so like
Speaker 2: five bucks. Yeah, that's that's one of the things actually
Speaker 2: that I want to talk about. And I mean all
Speaker 2: of those cards because when you get one, you don't
Speaker 2: get one, you need twenty five of them, yeah, thirty
Speaker 2: of them or whatever, right, Like I think most of
Speaker 2: the shadow Born Apostle decks that I work on or
Speaker 2: have seen are twenty six to thirty.
Speaker 1: Were they in common? Yeah, okay, rat.
Speaker 2: Colony is closer to thirty, and any of the ones
Speaker 2: that want to play Thrumbing Stone are like above twenty five.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, you have to be well, I don't. You
Speaker 3: don't have to be about twenty five.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about for the math to work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got to math that out because Thrumming
Speaker 3: Stone four and cuts your deck into twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all less than here it maths.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, I've got a few things that
Speaker 2: I want to talk about on the show proper, so
Speaker 2: I won't waste them here. We've got a little bit
Speaker 2: of a product showcase. I don't know if you notice
Speaker 2: the stuff on the table there behind the camera.
Speaker 1: I did see something that stuff we have like yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean on the street because we're totally somewhere
Speaker 2: with a dirty name.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I hope it'll get shived.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a place called shive.
Speaker 1: Guarantee this place.
Speaker 2: There's a magic place called shiv. Yeah, yes, it's it's
Speaker 2: like fire and lightning, a volcano. Place you'd like that place?
Speaker 1: I think it's Rat's Edge. Is there a land that's
Speaker 1: from Shiv.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's Shiven Gorge. There's Shiven Volcano from invasion
Speaker 2: Shiven Gorge.
Speaker 1: It's a fiery crack. I wouldn't know anything about that
Speaker 1: Shiven Gorge.
Speaker 2: It sounds like your mother's huge ass.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say that sounds like me because
Speaker 3: I took like twelve dumps one day in.
Speaker 2: The Calgary Yes, it's his bottle. We called him. His
Speaker 2: nickname is Darts Shittiest.
Speaker 1: Emperor pal Poop Team.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, bad, nope, bad, No, man, Dark's shitty.
Speaker 1: As for President, it's hard.
Speaker 2: Being me something. Oh man? Can I say president without
Speaker 2: getting canceled?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Oh no, Well I better quit the show.
Speaker 1: Good thing. We did it on the pre show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hmm. Four sixty seven and for sixty eight
Speaker 2: double recording because the holiday season is crazy. It is
Speaker 2: is nutty. Is cuckoo if you.
Speaker 1: Will cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Don have coco pops in canon?
Speaker 1: That sucks? Really don't only on special occasions.
Speaker 2: I have a note to explain something to people in
Speaker 2: the United States. I have a note for that tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Oh it is so wear beer costs so much oof.
Speaker 2: No, but you're in the you're in the neighborhood. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, okay, Uh you're Rando. I'm Brian hit our
Speaker 2: theme song.