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<v Speaker 1>On a.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the CEO pre show for episode four sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>four sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight for sixty seven and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got to do a double for a double

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<v Speaker 2>number of weeks, plus an extra one because of holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>plus a vacation that I didn't even pick. But alas

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<v Speaker 2>I am going.

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<v Speaker 3>On, holy shit, Yeah, yeah, am I going?

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<v Speaker 2>No Ah, I would like you to go instead of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Rebecca's parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't invited.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I do like them. Anyways, We're

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<v Speaker 2>brought to you by the wonderful patrons at patreon dot

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<v Speaker 2>com slash cecal podcast. Whether they like it or not, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out that they do. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic time in Calgary last weekend. The CEO Experience Calgary

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<v Speaker 2>tons up on. We're gonna do a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a recap on the show, but I wanted to, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>since we're doing a double pre show, do a double

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to the patrons who either joined us because

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<v Speaker 2>we invited them because they're awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>There were many.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep and or the people that we saw who who

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<v Speaker 2>were part of CECO nation that weren't there for the

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<v Speaker 2>experience but were at the convention there.

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<v Speaker 3>Were even more many of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the couple people that reached out through coffee

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com slash commander cougo to donate. I bought some

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say beer. I'm going to say some chips.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say what else did we get? Uh? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of cookies. Yeah, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>new thing that we've never had at the experience before.

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<v Speaker 1>They're good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sink guy's wife sink. Yes. New nickname though, new

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<v Speaker 2>nickname five in the morning, a little bit of alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>induced if new nickname nutter butter mama. What or nutter

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<v Speaker 2>butter mummy. I think that sounds more dirty, right, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>nutter butter mommy because of all of the cookies that

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<v Speaker 2>she was making that had butter in them, but no nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Because maybe somebody's allergic. And we're not about somebody going

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<v Speaker 2>into anaphylactic shock at the CCO experience.

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<v Speaker 1>The other kinds of shock maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, two damage to the dome for one red manna

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, Yes, Yes, that is the kind of shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, shock when you get out of the hot tub

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<v Speaker 2>or into the hot tub.

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<v Speaker 3>Shock when you get into the hot tub and all

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<v Speaker 3>that chlorine hits you and your eyes don't open all

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<v Speaker 3>the way for the Yeah, seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Three hours my eyeballs. Yeah, it was terrible. But we

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<v Speaker 2>did hot tub. That was a whole thing. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, we're gonna talk about it on the show tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a couple of things I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>over on the pre show, but I understand that you

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<v Speaker 2>have played some more Jumpstart type stuff or foundations.

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<v Speaker 3>I cracked a few. I took only card. I took

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<v Speaker 3>only decks to E. H and M this Thursday that

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<v Speaker 3>have new.

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<v Speaker 1>Cards in them, yep, and foundation cards, Foundation cards and

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<v Speaker 1>one jump Start card.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say that I played four games

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<v Speaker 3>and unequivocally dumpstered everybody four times in an evening, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yep, oh yeah, do tell oh man, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us tell us some magic story. We are a

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<v Speaker 2>remember when we were a Magic the Gathering podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of these came down to really good openers, right.

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<v Speaker 3>We had nor in the warry, Oh that's good, sol

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<v Speaker 3>ring turn on which not?

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<v Speaker 2>Nor in turn one? What do you do in that situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Turn one?

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<v Speaker 3>Turn got a lull them into the false sense of security,

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<v Speaker 3>oh baby, because the think, oh he doesn't have sol ring,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it's like turned two, it's turned to sol

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<v Speaker 3>ring and then the new jump start Goblin. It's my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite general lightning bolt to your face. Remember her name

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<v Speaker 3>is that whenever a goblin attacks to make a goblin

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<v Speaker 3>and then does a damage because the impact rumers two yep,

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<v Speaker 3>and then turn three perferos And that was the end

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<v Speaker 3>of that fucking game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll that'll do into that one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next one was, uh, I like how.

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<v Speaker 2>Producer Gary's in the booth and he's like laugh and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I don't even know what this means, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know that those words mean good things when they

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<v Speaker 2>were all chained together in a sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell that people are getting ficked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second one was tour Brand. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>had no business winning that game.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you even like red do play some tour brand action?

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<v Speaker 3>I forget what the new card I played from there was,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was one, and I just kind of kind

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<v Speaker 3>of eked out a win at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>There it's like me and the other guys like you

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<v Speaker 1>just fuck you die? Yes, check this song?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I shall, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to listen playing brutal Clad game three.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he said, brutoclad seven dwarves. What's better than

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<v Speaker 3>cloning seven dwarves? Gary knows this one clone?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, cloning brash Taunter.

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<v Speaker 1>Goddamn right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>So by turn two I got two brash Hunters. One

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<v Speaker 3>land sol ring signet never punished through a land brash Hunter,

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<v Speaker 3>next turn clone brash Hunter. It's all I needed. Then

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<v Speaker 3>all I had to do was wait for to play

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<v Speaker 3>it to rastad On and that was the end of

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<v Speaker 3>that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that, Yeah, I tell you that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Brash to Hunter fights t astid On four times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, first I block him, then I fight him,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll kill that guy over there so that I

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<v Speaker 3>can still fight your brash On.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I would say when terrascid on ETBs

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<v Speaker 2>and destroys three target permanence. Guess who he can't destroy?

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<v Speaker 1>So good?

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<v Speaker 3>And the last game was a Coma game because I

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<v Speaker 3>finished pimping out Coma. All of the counters are invocations now.

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<v Speaker 2>And all like all Foil finished pimping yep. Even the

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<v Speaker 2>tokens are they foil They are Congratulations you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's like an unsung or an underappreciated

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<v Speaker 2>part of expression and magic, mostly because people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is your struck sinking whale? Ballard's probably you buying

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight Marvel secret. No, we're freaking poor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we just we just work for our We work

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<v Speaker 1>for stark credits ants on the internet, like Vicky.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like foiling or choosing what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pimpage you want to do, Like for me, it's alters

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<v Speaker 2>in my animar deck or old border foils for you,

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<v Speaker 2>like getting all of your invocations done up.

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<v Speaker 1>The less a card looks like a real magic card,

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<v Speaker 1>the more.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. Yes, yes, that's the thing. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what first frick, I would say, first way to enter

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<v Speaker 2>to win the booster pack game. But if you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>noticed which people have, we're kind of avoiding that because

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<v Speaker 2>our entire postal service in the country is shut down

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<v Speaker 2>right now, so we can't ship anything to you. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>very much appreciate it if you commented, though, with what's

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<v Speaker 2>your preferred pimpage method, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Once we get these things sorted out, we'll just send

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<v Speaker 3>some things out to some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you get something in the mail, big thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to you. It's but we can't do it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to just get too far into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna I gotta touch on that on the

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<v Speaker 2>show proper too, because people are gonna be waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>like alters and stuff in the mail that they've won

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<v Speaker 2>on auctions and commissions and stuff, and I can't right

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<v Speaker 2>now unless anybody wants to pay ups or FedEx like

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars to ship a magic card.

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<v Speaker 1>During Christmas time. Yeah that's oh yeah, big oof babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, here's the ending of the Coma store that we

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<v Speaker 3>were coming down to that last turn and I've got

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<v Speaker 3>like seventeen thousand coils and it's just I've got.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough that that is enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had the esteemed privilege of activating a cryptic

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<v Speaker 3>command picking three modes.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh Mode one yes, counter target spell, Yes, that would

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That was the thing, bounced target thing that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get me.

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<v Speaker 2>Also good Mode three. How come you've gotten a third mode?

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<v Speaker 1>Target? Player quits the game? Yeah, got him big.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was it was it was pretty it was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty backbreaking, it was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did you counter? Do you remember don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was something that would have made his debt go

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<v Speaker 3>because like we had kind of kept him off doing

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<v Speaker 3>his thing, and he played the thing that would make

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<v Speaker 3>his na.

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<v Speaker 2>Waited a second, hold on a second? Was this was

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<v Speaker 2>this when you counter to spell that Corey played?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he quit the game. Yes, left the store, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>directly to the coachman licensed beverage room for a drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, That is what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yes, so it was a very good night of

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<v Speaker 3>magic the gathering for me. We also cracked an entire

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<v Speaker 3>box a jumpstart between the four of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you already do that once?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I did that in Calgary. I got one and

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<v Speaker 1>I got dumpstered.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you got your goblin yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then in.

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<v Speaker 3>The store we got dumpstered again except goddamn bean opened

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<v Speaker 3>my REV.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has a rest.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I hear? I hear the the the people

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<v Speaker 2>who don't know how to run removal online saying REV

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be banned.

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<v Speaker 1>What when are they going to ban this card?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the new watzie Are Rules Committee is

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<v Speaker 2>going to ban this card? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no?

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<v Speaker 2>If you think REV should be banned in Ragavana, have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen Ragavan mind you? Rev is two colors right?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh the fling the fling herself one is is

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<v Speaker 2>two colors, Yes, yes, rev is. Why why is that

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<v Speaker 2>card good?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's cool because I gets to draw

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<v Speaker 3>my opponent's cards. That's why I want to play it.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes a bet.

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<v Speaker 2>You card, and you know what I bet you it was?

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, somebody took my favorite card. Somebody took my wind condition.

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<v Speaker 1>I was off land for the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Game because I got attacked with Rev and every second

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<v Speaker 2>turn it just happened to coincidentally be a land that

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<v Speaker 2>in the nation is what we call getting dumpstered.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, but it's pretty good. Noverybody's like Jesus Brando,

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<v Speaker 1>how how are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like foundations bitches, Yes, sir, and I meant skills,

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<v Speaker 3>not the necessarily the set, but the set did help.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's some good new stuff. That new Goblin real good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because it provides redundancy, embodies Adam. It has

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<v Speaker 2>all of the words written on the card to make

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<v Speaker 2>the card go, and it's redundancy to a like tried

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<v Speaker 2>and tested effect in Commander in a creature type that

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<v Speaker 2>not like six?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct? Yeah, very good, So that's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty You updated your decks and you're waiting

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<v Speaker 2>Treat, dude. I think I was stepping on dinks with

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<v Speaker 2>high heels with the skin render in Calgary.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times did you play Breuvak does he put

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<v Speaker 1>in the course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, because it's a damage doubler. You put

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<v Speaker 2>damage doublers in your burn decks, don't you. It's my

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<v Speaker 2>blue damage doubler. In both games I laid skin render.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, only in one did I get Brewvac. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the one with me, Yes, sir, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had this. I had this scenario in my mind to

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<v Speaker 2>remember before we started the game, and I said, this

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<v Speaker 2>is like an agro Vultron deck, not a mill deck.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, if I can go like soul

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<v Speaker 2>ring signet turn one off an island island turned two,

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<v Speaker 2>I go blue blue blue skin render turn three or

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<v Speaker 2>turn two, turn three, play like a Brewvac and then

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<v Speaker 2>a fire shrieker, like I could mill you for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and then mill you for eighty and like I could

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<v Speaker 2>get you yeah, And I'm like, all right, wow, that's

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<v Speaker 2>like seven card combo magical Christmas Land never gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And it didn't, No, it didn't. But I did get

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<v Speaker 2>a turn three skin render it died. I got like

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<v Speaker 2>a turn six skin render, and then on turn seven

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<v Speaker 2>I top decked. Somewhere in between there, I topped decked

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<v Speaker 2>a Brewvac and then somewhere in between turn six or

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<v Speaker 2>seven again was top deck Bone Hoard. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even think that that card was going to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>But every graveyard had like forty or fifty cards in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were playing necro Bloom, so you were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna mill me, mill me, and I top deck

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<v Speaker 2>Bone Hoard and I read it plus x plus x

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<v Speaker 2>for each creature card in all graveyards, yes, not defending

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<v Speaker 2>players graveyard. I'm like, oh man, this, I guess this

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<v Speaker 2>is literally the best card in the deck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that fire Shrieker or a double Damager was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be but no, because my ten to one

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<v Speaker 2>went up twenty one power and milled double. So he

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<v Speaker 2>milled for sixty two and I killed everybody so dream

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<v Speaker 2>scenario would have been faster if skin Render didn't die,

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<v Speaker 2>though I wouldn't have drawn the bone hoard. I had

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<v Speaker 2>the fire Shrieker in my hand, and it would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken me extra attack instead of doing it all at once.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess, like which which which is better? Probably

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<v Speaker 2>probably doing it all at once a turn later.

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<v Speaker 1>All at once, probably for the best. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you just like cross your fingers that

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't die so you can cast and equip all

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time. Because everybody was tapped out. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that suckers. So the deck went good. I killed Mac

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<v Speaker 2>with him lightning bolting me on the stack and I

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<v Speaker 2>was at two. Yeah, he had lightning bulb, No, not

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<v Speaker 2>lightning bull he had like dragons approach on the stack

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<v Speaker 2>and his library was empty and I had a temple bell.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, I'm gonna hit you for three. I'ma

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make everybody draw a card. And he died,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the guy beside him went immediately killed me

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<v Speaker 2>and then said go, and then the guy to my

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<v Speaker 2>right immediately killed the guy who killed me. So the

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<v Speaker 2>game ended right at the like everybody's critical turn. If

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<v Speaker 2>I get another I will win, and for me, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind when that happens, because A the game ends quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>B everybody gets to or almost gets to do their thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, nobody can really complain about it. No, no, and

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<v Speaker 1>it works and then you lose, at least.

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<v Speaker 2>You exactly the game, Mac got everybody down to like

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<v Speaker 2>twelve or so, and then one guy gained a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of life back up to thirty eight or forty US

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody was low except for him because Dragon's Approach

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't hit him right. And he's like, I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>Dragon's Approach on the stack, but I've got zero cards

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<v Speaker 2>in my library, so do what you want with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he died, then the other guy died, then

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<v Speaker 2>I died, and then the game was over.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna talk about dragons approach this week on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yes, we are next week on the

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<v Speaker 3>next week on the show, and some other dragons approaching things, given.

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<v Speaker 2>That we have another one hair apparent. Yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 2>five bucks. Yeah, that's that's one of the things actually

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to talk about. And I mean all

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<v Speaker 2>of those cards because when you get one, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get one, you need twenty five of them, yeah, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>of them or whatever, right, Like I think most of

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<v Speaker 2>the shadow Born Apostle decks that I work on or

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<v Speaker 2>have seen are twenty six to thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they in common? Yeah, okay, rat.

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<v Speaker 2>Colony is closer to thirty, and any of the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that want to play Thrumbing Stone are like above twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, you have to be well, I don't. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be about twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking about for the math to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you got to math that out because Thrumming

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<v Speaker 3>Stone four and cuts your deck into twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's all less than here it maths.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, I've got a few things that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about on the show proper, so

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<v Speaker 2>of a product showcase. I don't know if you notice

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<v Speaker 1>I did see something that stuff we have like yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean on the street because we're totally somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>with a dirty name.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I hope it'll get shived.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a place called shive.

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<v Speaker 1>Guarantee this place.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a magic place called shiv. Yeah, yes, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>like fire and lightning, a volcano. Place you'd like that place?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Rat's Edge. Is there a land that's

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<v Speaker 1>from Shiv.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's Shiven Gorge. There's Shiven Volcano from invasion

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<v Speaker 2>Shiven Gorge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fiery crack. I wouldn't know anything about that

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<v Speaker 1>Shiven Gorge.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like your mother's huge ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was gonna say that sounds like me because

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<v Speaker 3>I took like twelve dumps one day in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Calgary Yes, it's his bottle. We called him. His

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<v Speaker 2>nickname is Darts Shittiest.

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<v Speaker 1>Emperor pal Poop Team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, bad, nope, bad, No, man, Dark's shitty.

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<v Speaker 1>As for President, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Being me something. Oh man? Can I say president without

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<v Speaker 2>getting canceled?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, Well I better quit the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Good thing. We did it on the pre show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, hmm. Four sixty seven and for sixty eight

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<v Speaker 2>double recording because the holiday season is crazy. It is

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<v Speaker 2>is nutty. Is cuckoo if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Will cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Don have coco pops in canon?

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<v Speaker 1>That sucks? Really don't only on special occasions.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a note to explain something to people in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. I have a note for that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it is so wear beer costs so much oof.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but you're in the you're in the neighborhood. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, okay, Uh you're Rando. I'm Brian hit our

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<v Speaker 2>theme song.
