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man Christian, who I've been working with for a few

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months now on a on a health journey. Right this

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new Year, New me. People are just people that are

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of the matter. So this is gonna be a good one,

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gonna be a heavy one, gonna be a deep one.

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So without further ado, we're gonna jump into it right now.

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We have a left Yes, once again, we have lyft Off.

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I want to thank you guys for tuning into this

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episode of the Big Truth Podcast and I'm stoked to

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have my man Christian Jodanov here with me today. He's

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a functional health practitioner, and he's a guy I've been

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working with for the last few months. I know you

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if you follow me on Instagram, you've seen some some

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updates here and there. I've been loath to give any

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full updates until I'm until I'm kind of a little

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further along in the course, but I can tell you

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progress has been fucking great. Feel better than I ever

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have in a long time, and dropping weight and uh

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and uh and making gains and uh and killing it

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because of my boy here, Christian. Christian, what's up, man?

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I know you're you're in Europe. I'm looking here at

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the snow and everything, and you're probably on a nice

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sunny day on the Are you on the coast in Portugal?

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for Portugal standards, it's cold, but like you'd probably laughs.

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it's pretty good. It's pretty mild. Yeah.

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a podcaster, and and and you know, he offers a

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program that that helps people get healthy and live longer.

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I mean really, so you know, why don't you give

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people a little bit of background on yourself and where

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they can find you and everything, and then we'll just

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jump into it because I know, we got a call

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coming up in a in like an hour or so,

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so yeah, let's just jump let's just get down. But

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let's just get down.

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much for having me on. It's a great pleasure. Yeah.

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So just the short story is basically, in my kind

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of late teens and throughout my twenties, I was just

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really just living terribly like smoking, drinking drugs, just looking

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to party, like zero sort of self responsibility. And just

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about when I hit thirty, then I met my now

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life at the time, which is about ten years ago

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health problems. In that first year that we were together.

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it's like, what the hell, what the hell is going on?

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do a better job helping her out, you know. And

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at the same time, my grandmother was in her last

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kind of years and all the suffering, like the last

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five especially five years of her life, but just the

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last a couple of decades of her life was just

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pure pain, suffering, torture operations, drugs, drugs, drugs, and just

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really I saw how horrible her quality of life was.

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up called that time. I'm like hot digity, Like if

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I don't get my shit together, I won't even last

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into my eighties, like like fifty, and I'll be like deteriorying,

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you know. So that's when I really started to kind

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of get onto the the health piece, and it just

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very quickly turned into an obsession. And then I very

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quickly found out why I was always in throughout my life,

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fleeting from subject to different subjects. I had a lot

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of different interests, but I never stuck with anything. It's

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because I haven't found my calling yet. And I at

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that point that's when I realized, you know, this is

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actually not only do I have to do this for

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me professionally so that I can stay on the straight

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and narrow, but I need to pay it forward what

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I've learned. And yeah, it's it's been it's been an

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amazing journey getting to work with you know, guys like you.

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It's such a especially guys and gals from the Truth community,

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you know, the Freedom community, because these are my favorite

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people to support, because these are the people I want

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to be as healthy as possible.

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Speaker 2: You need these you need these people around for when

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when something goes down.

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Speaker 3: I need these people to be really feeling well and healthy.

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Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, I feel like it's getting crazier

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by the day out there, but so so you kind

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of like you got into things on ut out of necessity,

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some health stuff going on your your your your your

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girlfriend or fiance or you know, your girl at the time,

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but before you're married.

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Speaker 3: We just met there, yeah, and then you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And family and stuff. How did you go about like

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how did you go about? You know, so many people

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are just caught in the grind of like you go

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to you go to your primary care and you you know,

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and then they just refer you to a specialist and

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you get on meds and you do this. Like how

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did you break out of that cycle? And like where

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did you start looking for information or how did you

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become how did you get into like, and I might

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be jumping around here, then, like, how did you go

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from doing your own research to getting into like becoming

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a full functional health you know, practitioner and and and

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and coach you know, or a mentor or whatever whatever

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word you want to say, a teacher, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the first thing I did, of course, that

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as I'm sure most uh most of the listeners will do,

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is like I started listening to podcasts. You know, I

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had just discovered podcasts in the time. And the unfortunate

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thing there is the big sort of the big dogs

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that many of us, you know, you're either your mainstream

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or you kind of your next avenue is still alternative mainstream,

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which is still in hindsight now that I know what

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I know, it's still pretty like it's pretty bad, I

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have to say, you know. Just so I started listening

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to like biohacking podcasts, and at the time it was

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already older. Rage was Quito and fasting and utophogy was

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kind of the big buzzword they had just kind of

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twenty sixteen they had actually awarded the Nobel prize to

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some Japanese researcher that had kind of discovered elucidated some

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of these atoplogy sort of mechanisms in the cells. And

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so yeah, that's so I started listening, like, and man,

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when I get into something like this is like my

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wife kind of realized that when I get into something,

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it's intense to like I was like literally ten twelve

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hours a day podcast and of course books and and

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those sorts of stuff, and so I started taking supplements

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galor to it. I was taking like supplements because I

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my twenties out trained like go to the gym type boxing.

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I did like a personal training sort of qualification back

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in like almost twenty years ago. So it was like

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taking supplements. I was like, I love pills, dude. I like, like,

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throw stuff into my body, you know. And then as

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on myself and I got deeper and deeper into it.

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I was like living pretty rough, I always like enjoyed

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like eating and kind of educating myself and doing courses.

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that's kind of how it started happening. And as my

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wife's health improved, my health improved, that's when I kind

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of realized, you know, this could turn into something. And

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of finished my Functional Diagnostic Nutrition course where they taught

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us how to use lab testing in a clinical setting.

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kind of did my final exam, I remember, I immediately got

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those guys to order a Stoo test for my mother,

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who had been suffering with IBS for about thirteen years

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twenty nineteen h and I already knew I kind of

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had a feeling what she has. You know, I thought

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she had aged pilori, you know, he had to go

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back to pylori. And we did that test, and I

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was correct in my sort of you know, assumption, and

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like it was rough. It was hard because you know

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she was you know, in her like almost sixty. But

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she got to the point so first she would like

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write she would eat some food and she'd like write

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in pain holding her stomach, or she'd have headaches pretty

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much after every single meal. You know that that's kind

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of the stage choos And it was horrific to eight

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months later, when COVID hit in March twenty twenty, she

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basically could eat raw garlic without any you know, discomfort.

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was like one of the sort of instance. The first

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instance is where I, you know, I helped someone other

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than myself. And during that time, I was also writing

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my book on autism, which I published in March twenty twenty,

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and I started working with more with families with kids

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on the spectrum. Then I started helping the moms because

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they're like they were they needed more help than the

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kids in many cases. And that's gradually how it kind

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of and not here we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, and it's crazy, man, because I see it.

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I don't know if it's because I've you know, know

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get stuff every day now for like functional health, like

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trainings and this and that, and it's I feel like

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it's something that's emerging, which can also be dangerous because

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if people get into it and they don't they're not

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as obsessed with it as you, then it could I

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don't know, if you know, you know, there's different levels

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of quality of people, you know what I mean, Like

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and like you said, you get obsessed with stuff and

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you're like putting ten twelve hours in a day of

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reading and absorbing material, never mind just your course work,

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just like outside of that. And you mentioned Paul Check

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that dude's a beast. Paul Check is a beast, like

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I used to I followed him before I but before

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I knew about you. But for people that might not

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kind of understand, let's let's dial it back, because like

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for some people, this is going to be the first

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time they've heard of like functional medicine or or functional health.

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Why don't we just talk a little bit about what

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that is and what it compromises and how it differs

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from you know, what the care you might get just

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going to a regular uh, you know, a primary care.

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Because what I'll say is when I started training with you,

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like literally, you spent more time with me in the

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first two weeks we knew each other than the last

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fifteen years of dealing with like my primary kids. Like

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they give you like fifteen minutes that it's in an

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alpa bang ba bang unless there's like a big issue,

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Like you go so in depth and so deep and

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you know, and you know with the testing and all

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that stuff, So why don't you just kind of give

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like a rundown of what this is and how it

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might differ from you know, the care people are used

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to getting, and you know what the benefits of everything is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you want to call that care,

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oh yeah, exactly. Like sometimes I want to call it

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not health care but a disease don't care because it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually just pharmaceutical dependency management. You know what

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I mean. Let's let's keep you on this day for

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as long as you make sure yeah stuff, and it's like, okay,

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let's give you some more side effects, so we can

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give you some more stuff to deal with those side effects.

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Speaker 4: It's it's exactly I keep in mind, like, Okay, just

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it's just crazy to me, like if at this point,

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cause so cause so many people like and especially in

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a post COVID world, if you don't see that pharmaceutical

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companies have no incentive whatsoever to get you healthy.

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Speaker 2: They want to keep you as a customer for as

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long as they can, and if you're healthy, you're not

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a customer. Like it's like you got to pull your

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head out of the sand with this, you know what

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that everything that uh, pharmaceutical companies do is bad, but

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you know, for buy and large man like, you got

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to go in it with some skepticism and distrust, you

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know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And question Yeah, and you know, I actually my background

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on my computer, I just kind of minimize all the

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windows just to see it.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's called the healing web. This is like very interesting

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sort of with the connections between on the left sides,

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all the allopathic treat the symptoms of all the natural

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sort of therapies, many of which you know are like

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poo pooed or suppressed. But there was a great quote

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a near near on the left side on the allopathic side.

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It says the nature of capitalism creates a fundamental predicament

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for Western doctors. A patient cured is a customer lost.

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to to the to the pharmaceutical companies, because I'm sure

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there's lots of doctors even though they're like basically and

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retarded in like a like the medical sense, they've been retarded.

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Their education has been retarded through the farmer companies sort

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of just perverting the whole thing. So there's lots of

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doctors that want to help you that they actually they're

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like I tell you, when there's like some doctors where

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they see the same patients so often and nothing works,

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that just they just like the next prescription that they're

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probably like saying a prayer to their deity. I hope

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this I never see this person again. Maybe something magical

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happens with this particular drug, but just completely there could

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sort of sort of again like and I don't mean

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that in a negative way, but they've been basically they've

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clipped their wings from day one in the you know,

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in medical school, you know which kind of that little

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sort of terraat basically before get your question, just.

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Speaker 2: More like you know, get into basics of of like what.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah the functional yeah functional? Oh yeah, so I

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love I love sort of the analogy if you if

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you have a gut problem. Let's say, you know, I

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have some clients that have inflammat have been diagnosed with

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inflammatory bow disease or irritable bout syndrome IBS, so IBD

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IBS also like some of the main you know, things

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you're gonna get diagnosed with if you go to the

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doctor with a gut problem. And usually when you go

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to the doctor, the first thing they do is they

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do scans, and they might maybe do a colonoscopy. If

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it's more like a girl that like a reflux, they

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might do like a endoscopy, and like just just like

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sticking things in your orifices, scanning you, you're radiating you,

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and if they don't find anything struck sally, then they

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can say it's a functional disorder. So it's so the

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structure looks fine and they're happy with that nothing is

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broken or protruding or whatever. So really that's kind of

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that's where sort of western medicine ends that there's nothing

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we could do. We can operate, we can't cut anything out,

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and the drugs don't seem to be working, and they

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will try drugs, of course, so they stop there. So

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functional medicine, natural medicine, they look more to improve the

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function of whatever system we're talking about. And it's not

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necessarily but usually if it's done right, we're looking to

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not just make the symptom sort of go away for

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a while and suppress it, but we want to address

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whatever's causing the symptoms. So I like, you know, like

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I've showed you back before we even start working together,

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the functional medicine tree. So in the tree and that leaves,

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you can imagine any symptom, so that the chiefs in

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sort of the literal sense that treat the leaves may

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be yellow, they may be with the ring falling off,

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you know. So that's not like no one is foolish

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enough to say I need to go out there with

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a kind of spray paint, spray paint those leaves green

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back and kind of stickitate them back on. That's treating

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the symptom. So we know instinctively, we know that there's

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something wrong with the treat does it get enough minerals

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or maybe too much water, not enough water, So there

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could be many reasons. So we start looking at the soil,

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testing the soil, and that's sort of an analogy for

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the functional paradigm where uh, and you don't have to

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be a doctor to do this because again, like it's

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not like doctors treat symptoms and they diagnose disease. You

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don't even have to classify what a person has. And

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an example, one lady they diagnosed who are three different things,

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most anclosing spondylitis dude and rheumatoid arthritis. And then we

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did the metabolomics test, the urine test, and her one

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of the toxic metals on the test was off the

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charts ten times, about the top of the range gadolinium.

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gadolinium toxicity sources and it turns out that a lot

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of the symptoms of toxicity of that toxic metal are

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very similar to like rheumatic pain, joint pain, various things,

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that can be diagnosed as you know, ankalosis, spondylitis, and

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a bunch of other kind of things. So I told her,

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I don't think like I don't think. And she had

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done like three s two tests that were not super

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indicative of like real serious this bioso. So I thought,

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I don't think this is because of your gut, because

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of evidence that we already have and uh so things

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like that. But then when you when you look at

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what's the source of the metal, right, and then when

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you look at it, it's actually the die they inject

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into you before an MRI and lo and behold she

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had several MRIs in irears and a parent. That stuff

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gets the gabbolinium gets stored in the bones and it

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kind of leades out over time. So like, this is

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not a rheumatorial arthritis the way even the functional sort

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of because like doctors think it's genetic. It just takes

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drugs and you stop eating meat. That's kind of the

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rheumatologists would say that functional folks who say it's probably

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got related. But in this case, it was not neither

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of those things. You know, So a little bit of

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investigation root causes gut stuff you know, like I said,

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metabolow mix, you can really find a lot of different

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things that are at the root cause of those symptoms,

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those health problems, which could be like as you know, inflammation,

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oxidative stress, could be gut issues, deficiencies, toxicity, a lot

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of stress which leads to a lot of other kind

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of imbalances in the body. So we look to identify

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the person's stress. All those kind of factors are just

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listed and then start addressing them systematically, and then the

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body naturally restores function when given what it needs and

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when obstacles to health are removed.

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Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's what let's say.

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Like when I started with you, we did the metablomics

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test and what's the other one called the the blood.

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Speaker 2: I mean that yielded so much data that I'm like

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why I don't understand why that's not part of anybody's

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routine primary care, Cause it's like that shows you those

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are the numbers like based on your your blood and

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your urine. Like there there it is, there's what you're

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there's what you got too much of, this is what

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you got not enough of, you know what I mean,

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Like to put it in simple terms for people. You know,

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it's like, it's wild how much data that went through

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and then working with someone like you were you were,

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you like compile it and put it into a whole

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protocol for you and how to incorporate this in your

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life and everything was you know. And I'm not saying

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all this because I know, you know, I know this

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someone right now going, oh, this dude's doing a sales pitch.

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I'm like, no, this dude changed my life, Like you

475
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,160
know what I mean, Like, I'm well, we've been working

476
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,240
together four months. I like feel better, I have less.

477
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,000
Even though I'm one of the most stressed people in

478
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,240
the world. My stress is down. It's not down all

479
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,559
the way because because yeah, my situation is that I'm

480
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,039
working seven days a week running multiple businesses and it's

481
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,960
like bad economy, so everything's down and you know whatever,

482
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:15,200
so you know whatever, this stuff, you know, deal with,

483
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:19,799
but dealing with it way better. Down fifty pounds pretty much,

484
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:21,440
you know what I mean, Like, given the day, like

485
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,200
between between forty seven and fifty one pounds, because I

486
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,119
can fluctuate two or three pounds, you know, every you know,

487
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,759
if if I weigh myself two or three times a

488
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:31,160
week that you know, there's like a two or three

489
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,599
pound fluctuation. Not sure, sure you know? And so you know,

490
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,880
this is this is serious thing.

491
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,599
Speaker 3: Starting to drub. But you know what I have to

492
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,759
say it, I'm not I'm not like kind of you know,

493
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,720
blowing smoke up your ass here, But like I was

494
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,240
when you came to me, when you told me how

495
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,039
busy you are and everything, I was like, okay, this

496
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,680
I hope. I hope he does at least half of

497
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,960
what I tell him. But you did, dude, you did everything.

498
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,039
And I have to really uh sort of uh pay

499
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,759
my respect because like I have people that do half

500
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,440
as much as you do or less in terms of

501
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,160
like business and stuff, that do way less. So the

502
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,680
fact that you actually went and you did everything, and

503
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,440
it doesn't even have to be perfect, as you know,

504
00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:19,119
like I don't expect anyone to be perfect, especially around

505
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,319
you know, Christmas and Thanksgiving and stuff, but like the

506
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,000
fact that you did it. Man, Like from the get

507
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,200
go was like, man, this guy I just had a

508
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,440
good feeling about. You know, how it's going to unfold,

509
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,200
you know, So no.

510
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,559
Speaker 2: And I appreciate it, but it's literally like like I

511
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,799
had told you from the beginning, like I had already

512
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,400
started before I reached out to you, like you know,

513
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:40,240
And so I wanted to make sure that I was

514
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,039
in a headspace like you know, cause you know, I've

515
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:44,599
been thinking about things for years, and like I finally

516
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,440
was in a place where like I gotta do this,

517
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:48,359
you know what I mean, or I'm gonna I don't

518
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,359
want to be the fifty something year old who has

519
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,079
a heart attack, you know what I mean, like because

520
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000
of stress, you know, or a freaking stroke or something.

521
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,680
So yeah, I was like, I gotta do this just

522
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,839
a function. And I noticed I was like I was

523
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,119
just being really stabby and like just agro with people

524
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,319
in my life, and you know, like no one wants

525
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:06,519
to deal with that, you know what I mean. So

526
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,240
I'm like, I gotta, I gotta, you know, and you know,

527
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,000
not to say I'm like mister Sunshine you know nowadays,

528
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119
but you know what I mean, definitely a lot better,

529
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,799
you know what I mean. I'm not there, it's still

530
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,519
a goal. But but like just the changes right off

531
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:21,519
the rip, even even the simple things like because my

532
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,440
shoulder stuff, man, that Magnoil changed my life, dude, Like

533
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,680
there's days where I don't even feel shoulder pain at all.

534
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,200
I still don't have all the mobility that I need,

535
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,680
but I know, you know, I got to do a

536
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,079
little more PT type stuff with that or mobility stuff,

537
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,839
which which I do do I don't. I don't do

538
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,799
heavy shoulder stuff at the gym anymore. I do more, like,

539
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,720
you know, more mobility stuff. But like everything I learned,

540
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,160
like is just like it's helped me so much that

541
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,440
like people got to know about this stuff, like because

542
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:49,759
if it helps me, it can it works for anybody,

543
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:51,799
because it's common sense stuff and it's not hard, you

544
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:55,039
know what I mean, Like because it's what I liked

545
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:57,359
about dealing with you too, and you know we're still

546
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,400
in it. I'm still dealing It was just like there's

547
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,880
so much out there. We're in a world right now

548
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,319
where we're so inundated with information and we're inundated with misinformation.

549
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,759
We're inundated with just like wacky like programs like you know,

550
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:12,559
and you know, and like you said, like you know,

551
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,920
keto and fasting like were the things you know when

552
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,160
you that were big when you first there's still big,

553
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,160
you know what I mean, and still big, yeah, or bigger,

554
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,720
and everything you've said has been like pretty much. It's

555
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,960
it's it's it's more than common sense, but like it's

556
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,640
it's like almost just getting back to basic stuff, man,

557
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:33,920
Like you know, like this is what this is what

558
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,640
you don't need, and this is unfortunately what you don't need.

559
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,400
Is makes up about seventy percent of the food supply.

560
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,279
Like just just go basic, man, you know, like and

561
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,160
I don't know, I don't I don't know. I'm getting

562
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,079
off on a little weird tangent here too, but but yeah, man,

563
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,319
so to get back into it, man, like why don't

564
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,599
you you know, kind of what are some of the

565
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,440
biggest things that you know. We're in January, right, and

566
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,000
January is always the new year.

567
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,319
Speaker 5: Me.

568
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,359
Speaker 2: I've noticed a bunch of new faces at the gym.

569
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,039
You don't hear it. I don't see it the first week.

570
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:05,960
I see it like the second, third week of January.

571
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,599
It Scott, So we we've been playing this podcast for

572
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,960
a while, but this was a strategic placement of when

573
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,279
it comes out because there's a lot of people the

574
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:15,000
New Year, New Meat crowd, which is fine, you know,

575
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,240
cool anytime you want to make a change for the

576
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,599
better is a good time to make a change. But like,

577
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,200
why don't you know, I don't know, Like what are

578
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,160
some of the main misconceptions people have about health? And

579
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,319
like what are the like, you know, what are the

580
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920
some of the main things people can do. Like obviously,

581
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,799
going to the gym is just one component. I've been

582
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,000
going to the gym for years, man, for years and years,

583
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240
and until I got diet dialed in or I'm not

584
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,839
gonna say it's one hundred percent dialed in, but more

585
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,319
dialed in. That's when I started noticing the big things.

586
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,440
Plus the supplementation that you you know, the supplementation that

587
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,559
you put me on. I'm just gonna show you. This

588
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,160
is my old man, these are this is my breakfast, lunch,

589
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,079
and dinner supplements. And I loved how you I framed

590
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:55,240
it from me because I was like, dude, I feel

591
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,799
like such an old man with this, and You're like, no,

592
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,359
it's it's it's called biohacking.

593
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, cool of the biohacker

594
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,839
CEOs and doing that. But you know, I bought one

595
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920
of those, man, and I in the end, like some

596
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,640
years later, I threw it out because I could never

597
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,839
fit on my days or even my dad meals you know, pills.

598
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,119
This is useless, Like these old ex pensioners on they're

599
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,160
not taking enough drugs. That's what like if I was

600
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,319
a pharmaceutical sort of executive, like we need these people

601
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,400
need bigger containers because they're not taking enough drugs. You know.

602
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,359
But uh yeah, that's the thing, dude, that's the thing.

603
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:30,559
Speaker 2: You know.

604
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,519
Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of guys they think they

605
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,599
equate fitness and health, but it's not. It's not called

606
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:42,039
fitness health, it's called health and fitness. They're different things.

607
00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:45,440
So you know, you can actually be very metabolically healthy

608
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,079
and and be pretty unfit. You know, it can be

609
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,240
quite unfit. Uh Likewise, you can actually be extremely fit,

610
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:58,960
and you could be like days, weeks, months, years, like

611
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640
a few years from from a heart attack, stroke. And

612
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:08,400
we've had plenty of athletes kind of you know, just

613
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,599
perish way to eard especially it's more like the endurance stuff.

614
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:16,640
That's the thing. Endurance exercise things like especially like a

615
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,720
lot of running, like marathon type running. That's probably one

616
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,920
of the worst things you can do to your body,

617
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,079
you know. But even if you don't, even if it's

618
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:28,519
just like gym stuff. I think just because someone is

619
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:30,519
going to the gym doesn't mean that they're actually healthy.

620
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,960
You could be like jacked and you can be prett

621
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:35,960
damn swall and strong and actually feel pretty good. But

622
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,519
that doesn't mean that metabolically things are okay, you know,

623
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:42,039
because the thing is, like you know, by the time

624
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:43,799
you notice is simple. Let's say, by the time your

625
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,559
tree sleeves are yellow, it's not that didn't happen just

626
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:50,680
now whatever, cause that probably could have happened. You know,

627
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:54,519
it could have started happening days, weeks, months, And with humans,

628
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,599
when you have a symptom occur that you feel that

629
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,079
you can kind of go and get diagnosed by the doctor.

630
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,519
Was having a disease that sometimes literally it's been decades

631
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,720
in the making. So for example, a stroke, aftero sclerosis,

632
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,160
cancer in some cases at least it's decades in the making,

633
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:16,039
and you know, it's at least years, and with many,

634
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240
if not most symptoms, it's at least you know, weeks

635
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,680
to months something has been going on. So we always

636
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,240
have to like and you said it, well, it's really

637
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,039
diet is the number one thing. But also we have

638
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:33,599
to supplement in the modern world because for many reasons that.

639
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Of course we could discuss that for like hours why

640
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,319
supplementation is important. But if you can dial in those

641
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,119
two things, really that that helps a lot, because when

642
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,960
you improve diet, I think people just kind of forget

643
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720
is how deep a nuance this whole thing is. So

644
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,839
when you improve diet, well, what are you doing? Well, yes,

645
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,960
you are giving your body more nutrition, which means it

646
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
can do more things you were if you had deficiencies.

647
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,680
You're addressing those deficiencies. But at the same time, when

648
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640
you improve the diet, you're actually adding less poison. So

649
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,519
you know, pesticides, herbicides, chemicals and mousifiers. I mean just

650
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:12,480
like literally there's like at least two and a half

651
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,680
thousand chemicals that are kind of been okayed to be

652
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:19,759
used in the food supply, at least that we know about,

653
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,519
you know, that are being kind of classified grass generally

654
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640
regarded as safe and whatnot. So you're adding less poison.

655
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,200
What does that mean? Well, if you add less poison

656
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,039
like pesticides and and and and kind of stuff like that,

657
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,759
and and metals and whatnot, but that means that less

658
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,279
of the other nutrition that you've added it has to

659
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:41,000
be diverted to deal with the poisons and the toxins,

660
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,759
so that means more is left over for repair and regeneration.

661
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440
So I think that a lot of a lot of

662
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,799
people they really underestimate what truly cleaning up the diet means.

663
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:57,160
And by that I mean not just going organic grass fed.

664
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,880
But I think, as you know, I think a lot

665
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,680
of people it's it's a part of our conditioning. Is

666
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,319
since since I was a little kid, dude, I'm sure

667
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,119
you're probably similar, and most of the listeners since we

668
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,360
were little kids, what did we when we were eating

669
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,880
with our folks at the table, what did they say,

670
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,679
you gotta eat of vegetables? You know, you gotta you

671
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:18,960
gotta get that's where the nutrition is. That that's the

672
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,639
biggest load of horseshit ever, dude, Like, because when you

673
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,559
think about it, I just and sometimes like I just

674
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,079
want to kind of put it back to the bear essentials,

675
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,480
like what are we? We are you know, eternal consciousness,

676
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,360
all that good stuff, But like at the physical level,

677
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,320
what are we? We're physical, we're mammals, we're warm blooded,

678
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,360
we're made of you know, these tissues whatever. So what's

679
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,079
the purpose of eating beyond the more esoteric sort of

680
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:49,320
getting energy and whatever. The purpose of eating food is

681
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:55,159
to you know, sort of break it down, digested, absorbed,

682
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,559
and then assimilate it into the body. So when you

683
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:02,840
think about it, what's the most compatible with a human

684
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,119
mammal that's you know, ninety eight point six whatever degrees fahrenheit.

685
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:11,920
Is it maybe another mammal? Is it animal product that

686
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,920
kind of you know, we're designed like let's say milk

687
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:17,159
was designed to you know, help an animal grow, or

688
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,119
is it you know, a fibrous plant, cells, cellulos tissue, fiber,

689
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,840
things that are indigestible to the body. That we're designed

690
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,199
to optimize a plant and its metabolism and life. So

691
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,079
when you kind of think about it, it's probably the former,

692
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:35,920
not the latter, and that this is where we've been

693
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,639
brainwashed by the science, you know, phyto just the whole

694
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,840
That word, the phyto nutrients is in it of itself

695
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,039
is a scam because a lot of what's in the plant,

696
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,360
so phyto means plant nutrient. Obviously everybody knows nutrient means

697
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,840
something that's required for life, not chemical. Is a chemical

698
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,800
it can be required for life, but it can might

699
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,480
not be could be harmful. So when they mislabeled phyto

700
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:07,639
chemicals has phyto nutrients, they are subtly brainwashing us that

701
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,800
I need those nutrients in my body. But when you

702
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,239
think about it, most of in that like again, just

703
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,280
look at it tomato or I don't know, cucumber. Most

704
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,599
of in the what's in there is going to be water,

705
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,039
It's gonna be fibrous cellulosy stuff that you can digest,

706
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,559
and then there will be depending on the plant, there

707
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,599
will be some things that are compatible that we can extract.

708
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,760
So certain minerals, you know, potassium, vitamin C, various B

709
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,280
vitamin and so on, some some amino acids, protein, fats,

710
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,199
et cetera. But that's still not optical. It's like, you know,

711
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,760
you have a specific machine that designed to run on

712
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,679
X fuel and and sort of components and parts, and

713
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,039
then you try to crow bar other things that you've

714
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,559
kind of picked up from, you know, over the years.

715
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:51,960
That's kind of the way I kind of see it.

716
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,079
It doesn't make sense, and so many of us are

717
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,679
brain washed on So if you can get over that,

718
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,719
not only does a lot of guilt go away around

719
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,280
Oh I didn't need enough vegetables. I'm a bad person

720
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,440
I used to do. I used to buy broccoli and

721
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:07,599
spinach and all this nonsense, and it would just rot

722
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,480
in the fridge and it would throw it out, and

723
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,199
I was like, oh my god, I'm wasting so much money.

724
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,599
This organic ship is like three bucks for three ounces

725
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,119
of this nonsense. You could buy like steak with that

726
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,400
kind of money, and I'd feel guilty. And then when

727
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,480
I realized that there should be no guilt around not

728
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:26,840
eating vegetables and whatever. You're saving money that can be

729
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,199
spent on better food, and a lot of this sort

730
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,920
of guilt around it goes away. So that was that'ld

731
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,199
be like one tip now for for folks listening. You

732
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,039
don't need to eat more vegetables this year. That shouldn't

733
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:42,039
be a resolution. I absolve you of any guilt around

734
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:45,480
shitty ass vegetables.

735
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:55,159
Speaker 2: The vegetarian contingent is going to have some, so you know,

736
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,280
like you you started to say, like what so in

737
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,719
your research and back around you know, like what is

738
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,960
best for for for the human body? Like you know

739
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,239
what I mean, like what is it that we need?

740
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,320
And I know it could be different for everybody based

741
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,800
on you know, genetics or you know, sensitivities or you know,

742
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
things like that, or you know the stuff we've encountered

743
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,599
in tests like what some might have too much of

744
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:21,320
or not enough of. It's things like that. But in general,

745
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,599
what are the things people should be focusing on, like

746
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:25,039
you know, getting in.

747
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,639
Speaker 3: I mean, like honestly, man, like a lot of a

748
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:31,639
lot of it is just the opposite of what we

749
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,719
hear in the in the mainstream.

750
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: You know.

751
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,519
Speaker 3: So in the mainstream they say, you know, reduce red meat.

752
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,000
I really eliminated, focus more on fish. I'd say the

753
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,360
opposite is correct. I would rather clients eat more red

754
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,079
meat than I had. One guy CEO, uh, very kind

755
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:53,880
of busy, wealthy, all that stuff, and his doctor had

756
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,559
gotten him off. He used to hunt and everything. He's

757
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:58,800
back hunting now, but he used to hunt. The doctor

758
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960
got him off hunting, and he was eating just a

759
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,280
different type of fish every day. Like just I was like,

760
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,760
that's terrible advice. And on top of that, takeing omega

761
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,599
threes and kind of doing other kind of nonsense that

762
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:12,639
was harmful. So really they're telling us less saturated fats.

763
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,920
But also if you look at Harvard Medical Press, the

764
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,920
American Heart Association, and I think the World Health Organization,

765
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,519
the big bodies I had, they tell you to eat

766
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,000
less saturated fats, like no more than ten percent of

767
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,840
your calories. But actually they're very happy telling you that

768
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,079
you should get five to ten percent of your calories

769
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,239
as omega six you know, like from oils and nuts

770
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,119
and seeds. So that's another thing that's like a huge,

771
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:47,480
sort of horrific sort of basically designed to make people

772
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:51,440
develop disease a lot faster recommendation. So I would say

773
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,159
is I would actually increase my saturated fat from good,

774
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,760
high quality sources very important, and I would reduce as

775
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,000
much as possible sources of a six fast. And as

776
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:03,760
you know, Josh, like I actually personally I don't need

777
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,000
any nuts. I mean here and there, like if I'm

778
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,079
having like throughout and maybe like have cake or something

779
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,920
or dessert, or my burger bond might have like seeds

780
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,679
or nuts on it whatever, like not like militant about it,

781
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,519
but as a daily stable, like I think nuts and seeds.

782
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,280
And the crazy thing is if you go and look

783
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,880
at the research, you will see all of this sort

784
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,519
of data quote unquote data because it's all associational nonsense.

785
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,639
But all this data that says, you know, but not

786
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,840
to seeds are really associated with with all these other

787
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440
you know, benefits and stuff, which so like in the

788
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,599
in the sort of especially the epidemiological data, and I

789
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:42,039
know you kind of have an understanding of these things.

790
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:43,880
That's why kind of like we can talk about it.

791
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,519
But in the epidemiological data, they're very it's very to

792
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,599
manipulate stuff. So you know, vegetables are associated with better

793
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:54,119
health outcomes. Red meat has been associated with like you know,

794
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,719
more colorrectal cancers, and there's kind of poor health and

795
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,159
and kind of a cardiovascar disease. But we know, oh,

796
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,760
there's a lot of different biases in that research that

797
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,920
could be you know, messing with it. So I would

798
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,360
say not as a rule, I wouldn't like live by

799
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,440
this rule, but a lot of what the mainstream recommends,

800
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:14,559
I would almost be like, Okay, let's figure out is

801
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,920
it the exact opposite, because oftentimes it is no eat

802
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,559
less for example, And the other one. I'm sorry to

803
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,599
to kind of harp on here, but this one might

804
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,119
blow your mind. But I think the whole thing around

805
00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:32,559
sugar is yet another style of man. I think sugar

806
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:38,079
and even granulated white sugar. I don't think it's that bad,

807
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,480
and I wouldn't eat it every day and type thing.

808
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,000
But if I'm in a pinch, like I would rather

809
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:47,920
have some sugar than like nuts and oil is stuff

810
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,800
like whatever nonsense in like chips, stuff like that. So

811
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,920
I think they used sugar is the most the very

812
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,239
convenient scapegoat, because our sugar consumption did increase over the

813
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480
laste hundred and fifty years. That's true, even though it's

814
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:07,559
been around for centuries prior. It has increased now in

815
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,760
the last century and a half. But what they're doing

816
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,800
is they are using sugar as the scapegoat whilst the

817
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,280
seed oils because there's a lot of kind of it's

818
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,519
a government subsidized industry, there's a lot of interest, a

819
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,719
lot of powerful people became very rich over the last

820
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,199
you know, one hundred and twenty thirty years with that industry.

821
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,159
There's a big lobby, so they want to protect that,

822
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,440
and there's nobody's talking smack about seed oils in the mainstream.

823
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,639
In fact, if you go find mouthpieces of pharma, like

824
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,119
I forget the names of some of these websites. Some

825
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:43,599
clients send me stuff once in a while. You will

826
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:47,440
see that there's articles in there debunking all the seed

827
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,840
oil sort of panic being And there was one article

828
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,159
somebody sent me that beef tallow is no health food

829
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,400
and actually soybean oil and all those others are actually

830
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,760
much healthier than beef out. That's the kind of shit

831
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:08,480
that's being sort of thrown at normies everywhere. So you know,

832
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,320
we have to really anytime there's a big coupla about

833
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,880
a specific recommendation, I think we have to think a

834
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,079
isn't the exactly opposite, because sometimes it can be, but

835
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:20,599
more more often than all, it's like it's there's a

836
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,079
lot of nu once that we have to get in

837
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,920
and understanding there.

838
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and obviously people's you know, genetics

839
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,440
and sensitivities come into play and things have to get

840
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,559
fine tuned and tweaked to them. But were just you know,

841
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:36,119
for this conversation, just we could talk in general. But

842
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,480
I mean, you know, the way sugar is vilified now

843
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,920
is how like butter was vilified or things like that.

844
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:44,719
And if you think about it, if you look in

845
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,480
the fifties, everyone was skinny and they were eating steaks, potatoes, butter,

846
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:49,239
and you know what I mean and you know whatever

847
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,079
like ola. Yeah, but you know the thing is like

848
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,719
you know, instead of sugar, now you know, there's high fruitose,

849
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,800
corn syrup you know, or this and that. You know,

850
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,440
like you said, get into the seed oils that you

851
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,719
know are actually like really bad for you. And like

852
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,760
a lot of that was just wasn't Some of that

853
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,280
just like run off from like industrial processes, and they

854
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,119
got to get rid of it, so they like package

855
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,199
it as like, hey, we can use it for this,

856
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,599
you know what I mean, Like yeah, that's that's what's scary,

857
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:17,480
you know, Like and that's like you know, the flooride

858
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,559
in the toothpaste, it's like in the water supply because

859
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,199
it was an industrial runoff from a chemical process, and

860
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,840
like what are we gonna do with all this fluoride? Well,

861
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:25,840
let's sell it, you know what I mean, Like people,

862
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,719
And that's not a conspiracy man, Like you can look

863
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,800
it up and it's it's all there, you know what

864
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,440
I mean. And there's a lot of you know, things

865
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,440
going on the world. You know, obviously I have a

866
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,639
conspiratorial slant things sometimes, but you know, like it's it's

867
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:41,880
not bad to have an unhealthy to have a healthy

868
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,039
skepticism of things because there's a lot of stuff where

869
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:48,519
it's just like rich dudes being scumbags and like you know,

870
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,679
making more money off of like run off, Like we

871
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,639
did all this stuff and now we have all this

872
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,760
extra stuff. Let's sell it off to the to the

873
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,119
suckers basically. And you know, but I mean what I

874
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:03,360
can attest to is that before I started working with you,

875
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,639
and you know, I'm just putting it out there because

876
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:08,280
I'm just putting putting it out there as a testament

877
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,599
because you know, people know me that, like you know

878
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:13,519
I I you know, like my word is bond, Like

879
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,239
you know, I'm not gonna tout anything that that isn't

880
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,719
real or it doesn't work. Like before I was working

881
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,639
with you, I was on like four three to four

882
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,400
energy drinks a day and doing a pre workout and

883
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,079
all this other stuff and you know, eating out a

884
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,639
lot more and stuff I don't take pre I maybe

885
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:33,119
have I'm not gonna say I have none, but maybe

886
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:36,800
one in a month. I might have two or three

887
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,480
energy drinks in a month. Now instead of that, my

888
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,079
daily intake is like now the month right here and there,

889
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:45,239
I grab them because you know, I'm doing long hours

890
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,800
and whatever. I'm not doing a pre workout anymore, you

891
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,440
know what I mean. I get up and I do

892
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,000
the honey and fruit like you say, you know, and

893
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
and a little bit of protein before I go to

894
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,679
the gym, and then a protein shake and then like

895
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,679
I'm trying, you know, for the most part, when I'm

896
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:03,079
doing a food prep and just eating like like clean

897
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,679
grass fed, local source from a local from a local

898
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,400
farm here, beef and either rice or potato or sweet potato,

899
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,920
and and you know, chicken, you know what I mean,

900
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,519
and that as well. And I know sometimes you say,

901
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,320
don't not too much chicken, you know what I mean,

902
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,760
but you know, you know, not a lot, like like

903
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,119
once a week or you know what I mean, like

904
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,760
but mostly beef. And I'm never hungry. And I literally

905
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,679
in the last few months have dropped like fifty pounds.

906
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,679
So it's like and I feel good, so you know

907
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:29,880
what I mean for the most part. So yeah, you know,

908
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,440
I'm a testament, Like I'm not you know, I'm not

909
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,440
blowing smoke. I got nothing, you know what I mean.

910
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:36,679
If I can help someone, that's you know what I mean,

911
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:39,800
and and and and feel better, and you know that's

912
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,480
why that's half the reason why I got out of healthcare. Man,

913
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,400
Like you know, like my background. You mentioned wh I worked,

914
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,760
who I worked for, CDC, I worked for like cancer

915
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,480
centers and stuff, and I'm just like, this is all bullshit,

916
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,320
Like you know what I mean, Like, it's an industry

917
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,559
and it's money, dude, it's money, and it's an industry

918
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:56,360
and it's and.

919
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 3: I love to know. I'd love to be a fly

920
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,880
on the wall during those jobs interviews. Did you have

921
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,119
the beard when you were.

922
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,679
Speaker 2: Maybe not as long?

923
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,039
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to tell you the President Ken.

924
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing, right this

925
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,280
is this is a funny story based on that. Like

926
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,199
when I was in school and I was going to

927
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:21,000
work for w for World Health Organization, I like worked

928
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,559
at headquarters in Switzerland. I was going to work for

929
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:27,559
their traditional medicine program because I was into like working

930
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,960
with like you know, traditional healers like shaman's and you know,

931
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,920
uh medicine men things like that, and so I was

932
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,440
going out there to work for them, and that when

933
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,039
I was in my anthropology school by by program there

934
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,840
at that time, you know, I was still heavily tattooed

935
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,239
I had, you know, like now I got slick back

936
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,000
here and show it here, but like I had big

937
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:53,519
dreadlocks and they didn't. They pulled no punches. I went

938
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:56,320
there and they were like, you're Josh, don you because

939
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,559
this is like before like before incident. This is like

940
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:00,400
late late nineties, you know what I mean. They never

941
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,679
saw a picture of me. They were like in disbelief.

942
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,360
They're like, you're this guy, like you know, on paper,

943
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,559
I look a different way, you know, to him. And

944
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,119
you know, I worked I worked in that program for

945
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:13,920
and I it's a whole long story. Maybe we'll get

946
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,239
into it on your show sometimes, but but yeah, it

947
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,639
was funny. But yeah, they were like seriously, well that

948
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,719
was always the coolst Like when I was in grad school,

949
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,639
I was like arrested multiple times for disorderly and you know,

950
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,079
we were always you know, wild, just wild, stayed wild,

951
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:30,840
you know what I mean, but just went to school.

952
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: But but yeah.

953
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,159
Speaker 2: Man, so like I have a healthy distrust of these

954
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,079
places because I worked there and I saw how they work,

955
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:41,480
and I saw the bureaucracy and the money machine behind

956
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:45,280
things and the motivations behind things. And you know, I'm

957
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,800
not slighting any of these because there are people in

958
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,519
there that are trying to do good and trying to

959
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:51,679
do the right thing, but they're constrained by you know,

960
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,440
the the bureaucracy that they're a part of, you know

961
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,159
what I mean. Like so you say, yeah, and like

962
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,920
there's no no one becomes a doctor because you're a

963
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,079
you know what I mean? Like, you know, yeah, for

964
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:06,239
the most surgeons maybe you know, I'm just kidding. Surgeons

965
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,360
have God conflict now and I'm just playing anyone. You know,

966
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,400
I don't think there's many surgeons listening to this show.

967
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,199
But you know, I've worked with a bunch of No,

968
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,800
they're good, you know, they have a that's a different

969
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,639
breed a doctor. But like, no one's no one's getting

970
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:19,960
into primary care because they don't want to help people.

971
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,800
But I feel like, you know, and we can you

972
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,960
know though, I don't even want to get into the

973
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,679
whole conspiracy about the Rockefellers and you know how all

974
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,599
this ties into medical education and blah blah blah. Yeah,

975
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,519
people can start to look at that. There's some hints

976
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:34,880
for you. There's some there's some breadcrumbs you can you

977
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,679
can start. You used to google, but when you look

978
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,159
at it, like there was no better line in the

979
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:43,400
sand than you know what we just went through in

980
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,840
the twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, like you know,

981
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,559
like well not twenty five, but I mean, yeah, it's

982
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:52,880
still going on now, like you know, like they were

983
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:55,880
just following orders, you know, you know, and you know

984
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,320
there was some good doctors that were speaking out and like, hey,

985
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,360
you know, we really got to do more recent we

986
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,360
got to think about this different. They got silenced or

987
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,360
they lost their license, you know, like really that's that's

988
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,599
part of the scientific process. You're going to pull someone

989
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:12,039
sciences they don't agree with the main narrative and you know,

990
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:16,039
actually calling for scientific method you know, all right, we're

991
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:17,679
going on a tire radio, you know what I mean.

992
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,639
Speaker 3: Sorry, but it's a massia, dude, that's it's a mafia.

993
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,679
It is a people. Don't really I'm not not obviously,

994
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:28,920
not the crowd listening to this show obviously, but like

995
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,960
I'm just talking about the wider world kind of you know,

996
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:36,199
we we we sometimes forget the level of normalness in

997
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:39,000
in you know, the majority of the population. So that's

998
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,199
a mafia that is manipulating a lot of aspects of

999
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:47,760
and it's beyond just medical care, it's also the insurance.

1000
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,400
Like if you just look at the insurance industry that

1001
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,639
profits off of all of that as well. And then

1002
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,360
we start connecting the dots and who's involved, and then

1003
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,480
the FDA and then what positions those guys have been

1004
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,039
go to after being in there. Know, So it's yeah,

1005
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:03,599
it's a it's a bit. I think the most important

1006
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,519
thing is we have to and this is what my

1007
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:08,760
talk will be at an archaebook the next next month,

1008
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,280
is like we have to like the way you know

1009
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,320
many of us kind of go on these rabbit holes

1010
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,000
and researching various kinds of things around conspiracies and whatever,

1011
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,320
whatever tickeles, your fancy moonlighting whatever, we have to have

1012
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,360
a similar sort of at least in my view. I'm

1013
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,960
not saying we have to enforce it or anything, but like,

1014
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:29,280
if we want to survive and thrive in the modern world,

1015
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:32,760
we have to really take a little bit of self responsibility,

1016
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,599
uh and not abdicate that to it doesn't like even myself,

1017
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:41,440
Like I have some clients that they they're like most

1018
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,239
people that come to me are very easy to work with,

1019
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,840
but like I have people still that want the rational

1020
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,079
Why is this recommendation that I'm making, Why why are

1021
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:54,039
carbs okay? Why is low car bad? And I'm happy

1022
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,639
to provide evidence and kind of ration now and logic

1023
00:51:57,159 --> 00:52:00,239
just to because like, if you can learn for yourself

1024
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,519
what works, what doesn't work, help evaluate certain kind of

1025
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:08,920
recommendations and interventions, then you're never kind of left hoping

1026
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,639
that whoever is helping you or giving you information or

1027
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:15,079
holding your hand has good intentions for you, which you

1028
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:18,360
might get lucky, but as we saw in recent times,

1029
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:20,920
like if you just kind of abdicate that responsibility to

1030
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,119
your doctor, practitioner, politician, whatever, a lot of the time

1031
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:29,079
we're like lemmings being let off, you know, of the

1032
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:29,800
cliffs thing.

1033
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know and and it all, you know,

1034
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,280
it's like a big the system is a big cluster fuck,

1035
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,840
you know what I mean. Like when you because when

1036
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,679
you start getting deep in the research, you see the

1037
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:41,840
insurance companies are pulling a lot of the strings on

1038
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,320
the on like the you know, on like the medical groups.

1039
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,639
And then or and then you look and you find

1040
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:50,960
the same companies own the the insurance companies and they

1041
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,159
own the medical facilities. And it's like all right, so

1042
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,360
we're just working in concert here, you know what I mean,

1043
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,840
like to maximize profit and and you know or whatever,

1044
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:03,079
or or when you see things like pediatricians have incentives

1045
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:05,840
to give a certain amount of a certain amount of vaccines.

1046
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,199
And I'm not talking, I'm not I'm not pro I'm

1047
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,360
not anti vaccines. Like I'm like, let's use common sense.

1048
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Like when I was a kid, you got a few,

1049
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,599
you know, like and people are coming down on RFK

1050
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:18,000
because he just brought the schedule down from like eighty

1051
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:22,199
to eighteen and I'm like, yeah, it gets out of

1052
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,840
control when when they have things like vaccines, like they

1053
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,559
want to vaccinate your child with het B vaccine. It's like,

1054
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,239
is your kid fucking going out and having unprotected sex

1055
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,719
and doing potty drugs like you're six month old? I

1056
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,000
don't think so, I hope.

1057
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 3: Not, Like you know what I mean. They can go

1058
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,679
out there on their own.

1059
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,039
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So like why would you need

1060
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:41,079
to give a kid a heap B? Now, obviously there's

1061
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:43,000
certain ones that are good and you know, and then

1062
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,880
there's certain ones that are just you know, they're just

1063
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,119
there to make money and that's always it. Just you

1064
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:49,559
got to follow it. You got to question it and

1065
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,519
follow the money. That's why you know, you got to

1066
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,599
get second opinions on things. You know, it's it's crazy.

1067
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,000
You just got to You got to be an advocate

1068
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,079
for yourself because no one's going to advocate for you,

1069
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,920
you know, like yeah, and you take control of your

1070
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,679
own health and take control of everything. So you know,

1071
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,840
we talked that we've been, you know, with diet. You

1072
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,000
know what, what are some basic guidelines because because there's

1073
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,079
so many myths about like you know, you need to

1074
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,079
you need to you know, fast, or you need to

1075
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,880
do low car but like you got to do this

1076
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,800
or that or like avoid like you said, avoid me

1077
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:23,519
like I've you know, I've cut out pretty much seed

1078
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:25,239
oil as much as I can. Like I use beef

1079
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,800
tallow at my house, you know what I mean when

1080
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,079
I'm making a mistake or whatever. I use cast iron pan.

1081
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,679
I'm not trying to use anything like any nonstick or

1082
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,320
any you just go back to basics. It's that's that's

1083
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,119
how easy it is. But what's like the balance you think?

1084
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,079
Because I I know you've said like a certain amount

1085
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,719
of how much protein versus how much fat versus how

1086
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,840
much carbs? Because I because what you say is very

1087
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,400
common sense, but I that goes against the grain of

1088
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,559
what you know, I think is what being told in

1089
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:51,719
the world today. And I'm you know, yeah, I don't.

1090
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: Think people know so the big the big one of

1091
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,000
the so. And I'm gonna talk like like a sid

1092
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,760
I said to you, I'm speaking of an Arcapolco next month,

1093
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,440
and yeah, kind of I'm thinking about how to frame

1094
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:07,800
this to the conspiracy mind.

1095
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:14,679
Speaker 2: That or whatever. The conference that sounds so awesome, Man,

1096
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,719
I wish I had I told you about it.

1097
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,039
Speaker 3: But I know, like you can't probably leave all your

1098
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:22,000
businesses and stuff.

1099
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get in a better place where I

1100
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,760
can go like next year, Like next year, I want

1101
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,199
to be able to have more more more more freedom

1102
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,800
to uh to travel, you know what.

1103
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I've been thinking about a lot about how

1104
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,840
would I kind of present this in for so the

1105
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,400
way I was kind of thinking that's how I was

1106
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,679
a lizard person. If I wanted to mess people's health

1107
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,719
up in a very kind of insidious way where very

1108
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,800
little can be pinned on me, Well, how would I

1109
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,800
go about it? And I'll tell you, I've been thinking

1110
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,320
about this kind of as I'm going to sleep, and

1111
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,480
I'm like just kind of getting ideas and I'm walking

1112
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,760
my dog and I'm getting ideas. And to be honest

1113
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,960
with you, man, I wouldn't change too much of what

1114
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:04,880
is already happening. For example, let's say, you know, kids

1115
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,880
are kind of you know, coming up in their teens

1116
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,199
early twenties, super impressionable. What would I do. Well, of course,

1117
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,039
you have to give the illusion of choice to people.

1118
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,400
So I'm gonna manipulate the especially the girls, you know,

1119
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:19,960
like a more sort of these more sensitive types that

1120
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,519
you know, we're killing the animals and torturing them. So

1121
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:28,000
it's really like you just need the vitamins, minerals, everything,

1122
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:31,079
the protein. It's all the same in the plants. In fact,

1123
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:34,719
evolution you know, of course, because everybody believes in evolution

1124
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,639
out there, you know, evolutionarily, we all lived at the equator.

1125
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,199
We all came from Africa, and we only had you know,

1126
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,079
fruits and vegetables to eat all our you know, millions

1127
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:47,920
of years. So that crowd, I'd be like, help them

1128
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,199
make the choice to go plant based largely or food

1129
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,400
vegan if they're extra sort of you know, determined. On

1130
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,000
the other hand, I'm gonna appeal to the guys in

1131
00:56:57,079 --> 00:57:00,119
various ways, Like you know, the male ego is a

1132
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:03,039
lot more easy to kind of manipulate that, you know,

1133
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:08,760
machoisms like oh we do we're hyper carnivores. All you

1134
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,599
gotta do is meat. We just ate meat for two

1135
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:13,719
million years and Homo habitlists or whatever, just ate meat.

1136
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:18,280
Even though again that's another religious belief that we have

1137
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,719
only you know, evolutionary biology, which is based on like dude,

1138
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,480
like just some bunch of god knows think tanks decided

1139
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:27,840
we're gonna this is this is how it happened. We

1140
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,440
have no idea what was going on in the world

1141
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:33,159
even three hundred years ago. You know, I don't know

1142
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:36,320
if you ever like talk to folks about on the

1143
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,840
show about Tartarian the month floods, like we have no idea, yeah,

1144
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,440
and the fact.

1145
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: That that's coming, that's coming.

1146
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:45,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, we have Like just yesterday I

1147
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:49,039
saw there's some I think on the Easter Island there

1148
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,599
was some kind of architectural sort of artifact the way

1149
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:53,760
they were putting the blocks together, there's like a middle

1150
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,599
block joining them. There was the exact same in Egypt.

1151
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,199
So it's like like we have no freaking idea what

1152
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,239
the hell's going on or especially about our you know,

1153
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,639
distant history. But anyway, it's very it's another very sort

1154
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:11,400
of a great way to get guys to just do

1155
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:15,320
more keto because it's ancessary, consistent, and carnivore. So in

1156
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,239
both of those extremes, you would fuck your health up

1157
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:21,920
on a long enough timeline, and you have the illusion

1158
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,760
of choice here. If I could further mess you up,

1159
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,199
I would say I would get fasting into your head, dude.

1160
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:32,880
I would have everybody fast, whether it's for spiritual, religious

1161
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,480
purposes or to upregulate utology to improve your health and

1162
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:40,639
longevity based on what on rat studies, on rat studies, dude,

1163
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:45,639
with zero human evidence that fasting actually makes you healthier

1164
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,480
or that will make you live longer. There's zero evidence,

1165
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:51,639
and in fact kind of researching this for my next

1166
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:54,440
book in a bit more depth. One of the biggest

1167
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,880
sort of fasting. Actually a few of the biggest fasting

1168
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,840
proponents have circled not circled back, but they've done a

1169
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,639
kind of a little bit of a one eighty on

1170
00:59:03,679 --> 00:59:06,159
the fasting. Vouter Longo. I just saw a clip of

1171
00:59:06,239 --> 00:59:07,639
him a few days ago. I kind of saved. I'm

1172
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:10,199
gonna probably put them into a YouTube sort of little

1173
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:13,039
mini documentary or whatever. He used to talk about, like

1174
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:16,559
fasting is this incredible thing you regenerate your rogans. Now

1175
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:18,199
he's like, they asked him, what do you think is

1176
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,559
the best intermitted fasting period. He's like, I think you

1177
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:24,840
know about twelve hours is good. More more of that

1178
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,719
it would be stressful, Like dude, like twelve hours is

1179
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,280
not even fast. That's how most people eat, you know,

1180
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,000
from eight to eight that type thing. So but anyway,

1181
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,920
I would get people too fast, because that is a

1182
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:39,039
very very insidious way to mess somebody's helf up. And

1183
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:41,079
the thing about it is, especially with the longer the

1184
00:59:41,159 --> 00:59:44,760
longer fast, you will actually get benefits in the in

1185
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,159
the interim, especially if the food supply. Knowing how the

1186
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:51,559
food supply is and how bad many people's diet is,

1187
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,360
if you actually start taking breaks from the terrible diet,

1188
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,000
you actually feel better from the inflammatory things in the diet.

1189
00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:00,280
If you got it messed up from stress and life.

1190
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,480
To say it, fasting paradoxically will actually give you a

1191
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:07,320
little bit of reprieve from that from that immune system,

1192
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,039
this regulation that got dysfunction. You know, if you have

1193
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:14,920
endotoxin producers producing bacteria that have overgrown some of those

1194
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:17,199
that a lot of that endotoxin production stops when you

1195
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:20,159
don't eat, because you know, they need substrates to grow,

1196
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:23,880
divide and multiply. So you actually will give people sort

1197
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,960
of benefits initials, kind of symptom lowering, symptom improving benefits,

1198
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,159
but over time they just basically will will degenerate their

1199
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:37,480
body and and worsen their metabolism, and pretty much the

1200
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,639
body will eat itself, the bones, the joints, the skin,

1201
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:44,760
all the collagen in there will get used to make

1202
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,039
keytones to make because so that's another thing obout caution folks,

1203
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:53,639
if you're fasting, think about it. Could you get those

1204
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:57,320
same benefits without fasting, because really the fasting benefits are,

1205
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,760
like I mentioned, you eat less for so, if your

1206
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,119
diet is very crappy, you take a break from the

1207
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:08,480
crappy diet. If you if your diet is very you know,

1208
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:12,719
plant heavy, that could be another thing driving gut problems

1209
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:15,639
and the toxin production and immunes of this regulation. So

1210
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:18,320
taking a break from a plant heavy diet, we'll also

1211
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:23,599
give you you know, you know ostensible benefits. But then, uh,

1212
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:26,960
the other thing is that the spiritual benefits. Dude. Of course,

1213
01:01:27,159 --> 01:01:30,159
fasting will bring you closer to God, You're creator, because

1214
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:33,599
you're slowly dying. It's like having a near death experience

1215
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:34,199
in slow motion.

1216
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,719
Speaker 5: Just just just smoke some brufo and take some shrooms

1217
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:42,960
and you you know, you don't have to like degenerate

1218
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,599
yourself to to connect with spirit.

1219
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: So that's good.

1220
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,599
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to cut you off here, but I'm

1221
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,400
just trying to, like, I want to see if I

1222
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,639
got this right. Because fasting is a big thing, and

1223
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:57,119
you still hear about it a lot. So fasting in

1224
01:01:57,159 --> 01:01:59,079
the end is bad for you because it's good because

1225
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:02,360
it's degenerative to body. But people think it's good because

1226
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,559
in the short term you do feel some effects, but

1227
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,239
it's not. It's not because of the fasting. It's because

1228
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:10,519
you're not putting garbage in your system.

1229
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:14,679
Speaker 3: So that's exactly the and like the thing about it is,

1230
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,039
here's the and you understand this, so think about it

1231
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:22,800
like this. Right, Let's say you have people that fast,

1232
01:02:23,679 --> 01:02:27,199
be it intermittent fasting or or prolonged fasting, doesn't matter.

1233
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,760
Let's say you have these people that lose weight right

1234
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,159
and through that weight loss, their blood sugar regulation improves,

1235
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:38,800
their blood pressure reduces, they snore less at night, so

1236
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,760
they breathe more easily, so they sleep better. Their partner

1237
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,880
doesn't hate their guts as much because they don't snore

1238
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,320
as much. You know, they might feel more confident with

1239
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,280
the weight loss. That could lead to a self sort

1240
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,280
of to a to a sort of virtuous cycle of them, Oh,

1241
01:02:56,719 --> 01:02:59,000
all this fasting, I might as well eat better then

1242
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,960
you eat better than you also have it. So there's

1243
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,800
a lot of beneficial things happen. And but the thing is,

1244
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,360
if you look at the research, a lot of fasting

1245
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:11,239
research is actually confounded by the weight loss. The weight

1246
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:17,000
loss is a confounding variable because if the weight loss

1247
01:03:17,679 --> 01:03:22,559
creates those benefits that the fasting group got, that means

1248
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:27,400
that we can get those benefits via other ways eating better,

1249
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,480
you know, more movement, you know, maybe some some calorie

1250
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:34,599
kind of uh lower calorie days to kind of create

1251
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:36,559
a bit of a deficit. There's a lot of ways.

1252
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,679
The cocaine diet, that's a great one. You know, you

1253
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:42,559
meet a lot of cool people, hang out to the parties,

1254
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:44,719
so there's a lot of different ways you can get

1255
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,199
the weight loss. So if the weight loss is driving

1256
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,559
the improvements, why do something that is degenerating your body,

1257
01:03:50,599 --> 01:03:53,920
stressing the Jesus out of you? And because the thing

1258
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:59,400
is you don't notice when your bones you're losing bone mass.

1259
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:03,119
Like I have clients with osteoporosis and stuff, and they're

1260
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:06,079
kind of in their sixties and sometimes seventies, like they

1261
01:04:06,119 --> 01:04:10,280
don't they they don't notice it until way, way, way,

1262
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,960
you know, in their sixties seventies they go for you know,

1263
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,800
a deexiscan or something, or they have a fracture, you know,

1264
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,400
which is even worse. So these degenerative that's the insidious nature.

1265
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,159
And I'm not saying I'm not saying the research the

1266
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,920
researchers are bad people. They're just kind of you know,

1267
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,599
doing trying to make a name for themselves. There. I'm

1268
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:32,559
saying is when and this is probably my my teen

1269
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:36,079
foe had sort of conspiracy conspiracy mind, but I'm saying

1270
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,320
is when they figure out an intervention is actually not

1271
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,760
that good for people or downright harmful. The algorithms can

1272
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,559
be you know, tweaked in a way where that it's

1273
01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:53,039
algorithmically amplified. So if you go on YouTube right now

1274
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,320
on the homepage that I've been fasting, any type of fasting, water,

1275
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,599
intermedtent ortoplogy, man, you will get videos with you know,

1276
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,360
two three, four, five, six million views. You will get

1277
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:08,679
thousands of people talking about fasting, and they're all parroting

1278
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:11,760
the same shit, bro Like, not almost not a single

1279
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,440
person is coming in with original thought. It's utophogy, cellular

1280
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:19,800
clean up. All the religions have fasting, and it's the

1281
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,000
same sort of spiel, just a different guy or gal

1282
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:25,519
talking about it. You know, very very little original thought.

1283
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:28,119
And it's because that's what I saw in the biohacking

1284
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:30,039
community back in you know, twenty eighteen when I went

1285
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:33,440
in there. Everybody listens to this, you know, these priests

1286
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,480
of the biohacking movement, and there are all those experts

1287
01:05:37,519 --> 01:05:39,559
are doing the rounds on the podcast. So we're all

1288
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,840
parroting the same shit to our clients. You know, Quito,

1289
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:46,119
there's no such thing as an essential carbohydrate in the

1290
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:50,280
physiology textbooks. You know, all of these party lines are

1291
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,880
being parroted by you know the majority of coaches, practitioners, trainers,

1292
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:58,800
health and enthusiasts, and that's how we create these echo

1293
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,960
chambers where now it's like you were you were behind.

1294
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,400
If you don't do this thing fasting, you're the one

1295
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,920
that's behind. You're the sort of the lot. When actually

1296
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:15,199
I think with health being maybe a late adopt is

1297
01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:18,599
in this day and age, I think actually it might

1298
01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:20,719
it might be a good idea to actually be a

1299
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,559
little bit more of a lead adopt rather because for

1300
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:26,079
just another example, the is vitro. I don't know if

1301
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:27,920
you ever heard of the supplement, but basically it's like

1302
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,000
it's it's a fight to westernchin dude. And I did

1303
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,800
an experiment after I found out that actually some people

1304
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,960
reported it mess it messes with their hormones. So I

1305
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,239
actually did. I had a five hundred milligram resveratro with

1306
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,480
whatever other monsense in it product. So I started taking

1307
01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:48,639
that every other day or every third sort of night,

1308
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,880
or just take it once. And what I noticed within

1309
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,920
like maybe ten ten days is that on the days

1310
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,360
when I would take reservitrol, the next day I would

1311
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,920
not have morning would I was like, you know, this

1312
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,679
is quite a while ago now, but I would not

1313
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:05,079
have morning wood the next day. And if I skipped

1314
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:07,159
it for a day or two, it went back to normal.

1315
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,039
So I'm like, yeah, okay, it makes sense. It makes

1316
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:12,960
that the resvertual is all the rage, it's all about

1317
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,119
activating this sirtuins blah blah blah. And then the anecdotal

1318
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:20,719
reports of it's kind of messing with people's hormonal stuff

1319
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,159
coming out as like a bit of a wake up

1320
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:27,960
call at yet another thing that I think it got

1321
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:30,360
and the guy. I'm not not to like throw shade

1322
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,960
on the guy or anything, but that the guy is

1323
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,199
like a Harvard PhD. And I just don't trust, Like,

1324
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,119
to be honest, my initial stance on a lot of

1325
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:44,239
it now isn't don't trust. First verify, and then let's

1326
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:46,000
see how the biohackers do with it over the next

1327
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,000
few years, and maybe then we can kind of consider

1328
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,559
adding experimenting with it. And then once I've experimented with it,

1329
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,079
then now I don't just recommend things to clients. I

1330
01:07:57,159 --> 01:08:00,000
usually if to recommend the supplement, I usually have to

1331
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:02,159
take it for at least like months, months, two, sometimes

1332
01:08:02,199 --> 01:08:06,320
even more before I actually can confidently recommend it to people.

1333
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,320
I think it's important to have that sort of sense

1334
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,119
of responsibility because it's so easy just to parrot lines

1335
01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:16,119
you heard from Dave Aspbury, Ben Greenfield and whatnot, and

1336
01:08:17,119 --> 01:08:19,359
or kind of these big doctors or doing the podcast rounds.

1337
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:21,720
It's so easy to parrot that stuff. But a lot

1338
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,039
of them are circling back, big big names in that

1339
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:28,479
we're kind of talking about fasting eight ten years ago

1340
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,920
completely stop fasting completely.

1341
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: So the question is, you know, I was listening to

1342
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,520
something just the other day and they were talking a

1343
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,039
lot about fasting and like doing like kind of like

1344
01:08:38,119 --> 01:08:41,720
extreme fastings, like no water, no no food, and you know,

1345
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,279
like at a certain at a certain point, it starts

1346
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:49,119
cleaning up. You're talking about cellula cleanup, and you know

1347
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:52,800
it'll eat attack cancer cells and then seven days in

1348
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,319
or five days in you're gonna release millions of millions

1349
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,600
of stem cells and all that. Like what's your response

1350
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,399
to that? And and you know, because I'm sure there's

1351
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,119
going to be pushed back because you know, yeah, obviously

1352
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:08,319
these things and you know, I'm not putting all this

1353
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:11,720
out to challenge anybody, but like, you know, people are people.

1354
01:09:12,119 --> 01:09:15,399
People adopt these things and take it in like like gospel.

1355
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,600
So like you know, how what do you like, what's

1356
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,319
really going on there? You know what I mean?

1357
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,119
Speaker 3: So just I'll tell you, man, like I was gonna

1358
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:25,840
do my my next book was going to be How

1359
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,359
to Actually Live Longer, Volume two.

1360
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:30,159
Speaker 2: That's kind of planning to do it. But I got

1361
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:32,720
this here. This, this is this is Christian's book. Pick

1362
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,880
that up on Amazon. It's got good information in it.

1363
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,119
It's like how to Actually Live Longer. So he's talking

1364
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:38,720
about pot too.

1365
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate it, brother. But yeah, so I was going

1366
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:43,000
to do volume two. I've been kind of meaning to

1367
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,920
do it for like quite a while now, and I

1368
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,479
have the research radio just it's it's just about like

1369
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,720
just getting stuck in for a few months. But anyway,

1370
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,960
I just the fasting thing is just it just keeps

1371
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,359
coming up. I don't know why. And I had a

1372
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,880
chapter in the previous book about it. But like I

1373
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,640
started like digging deeper into the research since kind of December,

1374
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,119
and now I'm kind of back into it in the

1375
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:05,920
new year. And man, I tell you, like the crazy

1376
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:11,159
thing with the fasting research, it's just so underwhelming. It's

1377
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:14,479
so bad. It's so bad. I don't like, I don't understand,

1378
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,880
Like I mean, I understand why they're pushing it. They

1379
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,239
want to push this research because it's an interesting topic.

1380
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,680
But like all the research so far that comes out,

1381
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,680
unless you're just looking at a very sort of conventional

1382
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:32,079
medicine retarded way of improving cardio metabolic markers, that's kind

1383
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:33,840
of the always not always, but a lot of time

1384
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,560
it's just the goal improving cardio metabolic It's like, dude,

1385
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,239
like like those guys and gals they think, if the

1386
01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:46,279
fasting will lower your you know, your cholesterol and whatnot,

1387
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,399
that you're gonna that's like that's a good result, that's

1388
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:52,239
an improvement. But like these are so such transient things

1389
01:10:52,279 --> 01:10:56,399
and actually it's not even it's not even reproducible. Every

1390
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,640
time some studies show that actually the cholesterol actually uh

1391
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,119
in increases, they say it worsens those markers. Cholesterol increasing

1392
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:07,479
does not mean it's it's your work software anything. And

1393
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,319
then it's there's some studies that go from the insulin

1394
01:11:11,359 --> 01:11:16,720
resistance perspective, they actually find that after the fast people

1395
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,479
are actually more insulin resistant. And then you have other

1396
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,000
guys that saying that it lowers inflammation. But I have

1397
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:26,800
studies showing that actually during the faster inflammation increases based

1398
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:32,039
on things like ce reactive protein interloke in six. And

1399
01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:34,199
then there was another study which was done in like

1400
01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:38,960
on the mean age was like almost thirty men young men,

1401
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,840
and that studies showed that actually there was an increase

1402
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,720
in oxidative stress based on actually the marker on your test,

1403
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,479
the metabolow MIICX, that lipid peroxidation marker on the test

1404
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,800
that's a t bars thile barbeturic acid reactive. I believe

1405
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,479
it was the same market that they use, so that

1406
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,560
marker increased during the fast, which means lipid peroxidation is occurring.

1407
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,560
And what people don't know, and that's why I need

1408
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,319
to write the book is especially if someone is fasting

1409
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:08,479
for the weight loss, what you actually don't want. And

1410
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,000
that's why with with you and with all clients, where

1411
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,039
you know, uh, fat loss is part of the goals

1412
01:12:14,039 --> 01:12:16,880
that the client has. We always want to not just

1413
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,399
tweak calories and and and kind of increase fat loss

1414
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,119
because that's actually pretty easy. We want to lay the

1415
01:12:24,119 --> 01:12:28,439
foundation in terms of like the toxification, gut function, liver function, stress,

1416
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,640
all these things, because what people a lot of people

1417
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:36,479
don't know is actually we our fat uh fatty tissue

1418
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:41,720
is a repository for various chemicals known as persistent organic pollutants,

1419
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,119
So things like from organic chlorines to like various like

1420
01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:53,640
even from uh gasoline combustions. There's certain things that are lipophilic,

1421
01:12:54,319 --> 01:12:56,239
so they kind of get they have an affinity to

1422
01:12:56,279 --> 01:12:58,199
our to our fatty tissue. So if you just start

1423
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,520
like rapidly losing weight, all of a sudden, you're releasing

1424
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,760
not just a ton of these uh pops persistent pollutants,

1425
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,399
but also a lot of polion saturary fats. Because most people,

1426
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,840
especially in the US, that have a little bit of

1427
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,000
like a excess weight sort of issue, a lot of

1428
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:20,199
that fat contains a lot of Omega six potien satury fat,

1429
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,880
and those are very unstable. So if you just like

1430
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,439
really needy, just open the flood gates, you got toxins.

1431
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,880
Now your livers are dealing with and then it's also

1432
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,800
dealing with all these proofas that can be turned into

1433
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:39,279
inflammatory molecules mediators like a costenoids, prostaglandins. They can also

1434
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:43,840
spontaneously peroxidize whilst they're circulating in your body. They can

1435
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,119
damage you know, your vascular your your blood vessel, lining

1436
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,520
your organs, so you know, like and then the byproducts

1437
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,960
of that damage uh uh, these byproducts, some of them

1438
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,479
can cross the blood brain barrier, you know, damage neurons

1439
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,239
kind of. So like the whole thing about fasting for longevity,

1440
01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:09,039
no evidence, the whole thing about autoplogy, there's actually like

1441
01:14:09,079 --> 01:14:14,079
if you look at the research, starvation regulates the overall

1442
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:18,880
bawblkotoplogy where everything is broken down indiscriminately. That's not the

1443
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,119
selective orthoplogy that people want because like the idea is

1444
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,520
you just break down everything that that's like not working optimally.

1445
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,600
But if you're starving your body, it's not like I

1446
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,720
need to imagine you lose your job, your source of incoming,

1447
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,680
like I need to come come home and I'm gonna

1448
01:14:36,399 --> 01:14:39,159
renovate the whole house. No, you're like, shit, I need

1449
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:44,800
to like stuck Netflix massages, you know, like dinners out.

1450
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,079
Everything stops, so the body shuts down the nice to

1451
01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:52,000
have functions and then a lot of uh just said it,

1452
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:55,279
like a lot of tissues just degenerated to turn it

1453
01:14:55,319 --> 01:14:57,800
into glugoles and sometimes key don't depending on the thing,

1454
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:01,399
and so that's what happens. Dude, you know, meanwhile, all

1455
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:05,920
this fat that's being released damaging the body, the metabolism

1456
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:10,840
is lowered. So like the whole thing is a pipe

1457
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,039
dream that's built on a house of cards of animal

1458
01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:18,399
research that is really really badly done because look, for example,

1459
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,079
some of the initial research on easts, like how can

1460
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:26,319
you like extrapolate east studies to freaking mammals, dude. And

1461
01:15:26,359 --> 01:15:30,680
then there was one in nematodes see Elegance, where it

1462
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,920
actually turns out that if you starve that little nematode,

1463
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,199
it actually goes into like some of like a suspended

1464
01:15:37,239 --> 01:15:41,319
state akain to like a hibernation. So like, yeah, it

1465
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,399
can live twice as long, but like, dude, like we

1466
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,920
don't hype, we're not hibernating animals. And then rats, and

1467
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,880
then the rats that eat this trash, these pellets, Like

1468
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,960
imagine you take this this animal is being poisoned with

1469
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,720
like soybean oil when ground up, fish cuts and heads

1470
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,399
and all this like shit, all this like the lab chop,

1471
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,880
So imagine just just imagine it eats less less poison,

1472
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:08,359
you give it less poison, you fasted. Well, maybe maybe

1473
01:16:08,399 --> 01:16:11,680
that's why they're actually living longer and they're less less

1474
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,560
unhealthy because you're giving the animal is eating less poison.

1475
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,800
So the animal research is basically not not enough for

1476
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,319
us to say we should do this, and then the

1477
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,520
human data probably will not have for decades, if if

1478
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,359
we ever have it at all. So I would be

1479
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,039
very careful.

1480
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,399
Speaker 2: So it's better just to clean up down then then

1481
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,039
then than to than to fast. One of the other

1482
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:38,880
big things is carbs and everyone there's like a big

1483
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,239
you know what's going on with carbs? And that was

1484
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,119
honestly one of the biggest things I had to get

1485
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:45,239
over with you. Is like when I first started working

1486
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:47,680
with you, is like it reincorporating because I was like, oh, man,

1487
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,479
I'm supposed to eat, I'm supposed to have a potato

1488
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,199
like you know, like you know, like like like what

1489
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:55,760
like what what's your take on on carbs and like

1490
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,680
what's what's like a good healthy amount of cab versus

1491
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,840
like what's what's bad carbs and stuff? Like you know.

1492
01:17:01,079 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, So actually this surreminds me earlier. I wanted to

1493
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,319
make the point so when when I was telling about it,

1494
01:17:06,319 --> 01:17:08,319
if I was a lizard person, how I would mess

1495
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,439
you know, younger people up is actually when you look

1496
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,439
at it. Uh, if all the guys that you kind

1497
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,279
of convinced to not eat fruit and carbs and and

1498
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:22,520
stuff like that. So we actually we know that low

1499
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:27,000
carb diets actually increase cortisol. And no matter what way

1500
01:17:27,039 --> 01:17:30,800
you figure out to increase somebody's quarterso their the stosterone

1501
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,199
basically is lower that they're almost like a ces. If

1502
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:38,079
prtosol is high, the stosterone is lowered, even if there's

1503
01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:40,479
some and the resubmit the research is in the book,

1504
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:45,000
like if you inject someone with hydrocordizone, that will lower

1505
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,479
their tea. If you inject them with with insulin, which

1506
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:53,359
clears the blood stream of glucose, which then requires cortso

1507
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,640
to come in and raise the blood sugar, that also

1508
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,600
lowers their their the stosterone. And by the way, intermittent

1509
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,920
fasting studies, UH, even after four weeks testosterone is lowered,

1510
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:06,920
and then two months it's lowered, and then up to

1511
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,359
eleven months. They've done a few studies on that. So

1512
01:18:09,399 --> 01:18:12,359
in all those cases and in some cases like twenty

1513
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:16,239
twenty five percent reduction after eight weeks in young healthy

1514
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:19,760
men no less, you know, you know, college sort of

1515
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,760
broke college kids do a lot of these studies.

1516
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: I was there. I used to get blow years.

1517
01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta do. But yeah, so

1518
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,159
so so yeah. So the other thing is so if

1519
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:34,840
I can get a bunch of twenty something guys to

1520
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,960
start doing kido carnivore like and brain washed that fructose

1521
01:18:39,039 --> 01:18:42,680
is a poison like alcohol. Well, the sperm, dude, the sperm.

1522
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,199
Apparently this is kind of recently I figured I learned this.

1523
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:51,720
The sperm used fructose for motility. And like a lot

1524
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,279
of the cells in the testes, they actually use googles,

1525
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,239
the lady cells, and so we actually like uh, in

1526
01:18:59,279 --> 01:19:03,039
many senses, it seems like eating a lot of fruit

1527
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:05,840
those and like fruit and things like honey and stuff.

1528
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,039
It's almost like a signal it's summertime. There's abundance. It's

1529
01:19:10,119 --> 01:19:12,880
okay now to produce because you have you know, you

1530
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,239
eat excess from what just your base needs. So the

1531
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:18,279
body is like, you know, it's actually okay to you know,

1532
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,600
have a libido. I want to go and you know,

1533
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,800
bang some cave chicks and procreate here. Things are safe.

1534
01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:28,079
Times are good. Times is not tough. So it's like

1535
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,079
if you remove that, if you remove carbohydrates from a

1536
01:19:32,079 --> 01:19:34,199
person and you think about it. So the brain needs

1537
01:19:34,199 --> 01:19:35,960
maybe one hundred, one hundred and twenty grams a day

1538
01:19:36,119 --> 01:19:39,159
of glucose, The red blood cells needs thirty grounds, the

1539
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:41,960
kidneys need some, and there's a lot of other like

1540
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,159
the cells in the eyes and have clients that don't

1541
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:46,640
don't keyto low carb for a while that there are

1542
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,680
eyesight deteriorates, you know. So the body, if you remove

1543
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,000
a lot of this carbohydrate source, the body will will

1544
01:19:56,039 --> 01:19:59,680
produce some it wi kind of like reduce some processes

1545
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,039
that are nice to have that you know. So the

1546
01:20:03,079 --> 01:20:05,479
brain will get its share, the nervous system will get

1547
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,560
its shair. But just like it down't regulates a lot

1548
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,479
of kind of nice to have things like. So that's

1549
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,960
kind of the rationale why even though you can produce

1550
01:20:14,039 --> 01:20:17,840
glucose in the body, it's not it's just and you know,

1551
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,079
some of the kido people say there's no like glucose

1552
01:20:21,159 --> 01:20:25,000
is non essential, but they don't They don't probably understand

1553
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:29,720
is glucose it's nutritionally non essential, but it doesn't mean

1554
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,000
it's physiologically non essential, which means, yeah, you can produce

1555
01:20:33,039 --> 01:20:35,760
it if you have to, but if you don't have

1556
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,600
it you're dead. It's similar with water, do it. Actually

1557
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,359
you can make water from fat metabolic water in the body,

1558
01:20:45,039 --> 01:20:49,159
So technically water is nutritionally non essential, but we know that,

1559
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:53,760
you know, if you get sufficiently dehydrated, you're screwed. You're dead.

1560
01:20:54,119 --> 01:20:58,119
So that's the thing. And especially this is especially bad

1561
01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:01,199
because at this if you go straight ol way into ketosis,

1562
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,760
and now when you're producing ketones, a good portion of

1563
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:09,600
sort of what the brain was gonna use glucose wise

1564
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,680
can be satisfied by ketones. But you never, like, no

1565
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:18,359
matter how deep into katosis you get, whether that's through fasting,

1566
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,159
starvation or the diet, no matter how deep in kytosis

1567
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,600
you are, you will always be producing glucose. But something

1568
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,399
like I think like seventy percent sixty seventy percent is

1569
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,720
the maximum that ketones can provide. So you're always like

1570
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,600
doing that, you're always degenerating something, or at best, you're

1571
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,560
turning the protein that you eat from the diet keto

1572
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,840
diet into glucose, you know. But that's a very bad

1573
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,760
that's a very bad deal because one hundred grounds of

1574
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,079
protein is roughly going to get turned into fifty grounds

1575
01:21:49,079 --> 01:21:51,680
of glucose and to get one hundred grounds of protein

1576
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,680
for meat, you have to eat probably I don't know,

1577
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,840
at least like maybe three quarters of a pound of steak,

1578
01:21:58,119 --> 01:22:01,640
you know. So it's a lot of wasted, high quality protein.

1579
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:06,680
So there's so many problems with this long term, now

1580
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,760
short term, especially if you're young and healthy. Short term,

1581
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,039
it's fine to mess around experiment with things, but I'm

1582
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:15,439
talking about like we're talking about, you know, like you're,

1583
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,359
you know, in your fifties, like I people that come

1584
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:20,760
to me sometimes the world or sixties and sometimes in

1585
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:25,720
the seventies. We have to do what's optimal for the

1586
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,159
human for for a lifetime, not just like what's the

1587
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:33,279
current fad, you know, atkins quido whatever, low fat. We

1588
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:36,000
have to do what's right. Something you can do on

1589
01:22:36,039 --> 01:22:38,760
a daily basis that's easy enough to do, that will

1590
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,920
support your health for the next you know, fifty years,

1591
01:22:42,319 --> 01:22:46,239
not until oh shit, Thanksgiving came and I got off

1592
01:22:46,319 --> 01:22:48,359
keto and then I ballooned all that weight came back

1593
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,800
right back on in three months, you know, like that

1594
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,760
that shit. When you're our age forty plus, like, you

1595
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,479
don't have time for this nonsense. You just need to

1596
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,520
find something that works. Keeps stress low in terms of

1597
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,680
like you're cortoso and stuff like that, and then just

1598
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,840
get used to that and then it gets a lot

1599
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,680
easier and then just kind of go and live your

1600
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,479
life because we, like most people, we don't have time

1601
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,319
to like spend twelve hours a day figure out what

1602
01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:14,640
is optimum and laptist you know, like all the time,

1603
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,760
and you just need to figure out huge system. This works,

1604
01:23:18,399 --> 01:23:21,319
do this, This will support you it, This will get

1605
01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:23,840
you eighty ninety percent of the way there and then

1606
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,960
the rest, you know, supplements can help with that and

1607
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,439
then you have a little bit of leeway. Then not everybody.

1608
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,439
And just to answer your question, what carbs are good?

1609
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,840
What carbs are bad? Really? Anything anything that's like a fruit,

1610
01:23:39,079 --> 01:23:41,760
honey like that kind of source, maple syrup, I think

1611
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:46,600
white rice that has no fiber or very little fiber, potatoes.

1612
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,800
These are all fine, and really the shitty carbs is

1613
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,279
just anything that people actually consider carbs, you know, which

1614
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:58,880
just pizza, yeah, you know, bread and grain, anything grain based,

1615
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,159
anything with a lot of heeds, no matter the seeds, lentils,

1616
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:06,479
all the stuff I have, I haven't eaten lentils in years.

1617
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:10,479
Beans almost never unless we're have like my wife sometimes

1618
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,560
makes you know, for hitters, tacos, like I'll have it

1619
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,479
once in a while and then I'm farting half to

1620
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,159
half the day later that day. So the bodies, the

1621
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:22,520
body tells us. Just as a quick example, I had

1622
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,000
one dude he signed up with me maybe I guess October,

1623
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,199
and he was eating sixty to seventy percent of his

1624
01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:31,680
diet was vegetable. Was really cool guy. He's joining like

1625
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,359
a lot of the calls. He's very active on the calls,

1626
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,199
like twice a week at least some past three times

1627
01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:38,279
a week is coming. And I told him, get all

1628
01:24:38,319 --> 01:24:40,920
the shit out of your die. Bro He's like seventy three.

1629
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,159
So I don't talk to him like that, you know.

1630
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:47,680
But so anyway, didn't hear anything about the bloating and

1631
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,720
the gas and the digestic problems. Very very quickly, then

1632
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,840
we kind of we had other stuff like sleep and energy,

1633
01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:58,119
but everything started improving. And then I don't know, about

1634
01:24:58,119 --> 01:24:59,880
a month ago, he told me, oh, man, you know, Chris,

1635
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,119
a few days ago, I had some broccoli. I'm like,

1636
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,920
that's fine, I'm not gonna spanky or anything. How was it.

1637
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,600
He's like it was horrible. It was horrible.

1638
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:10,039
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1639
01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is because like imagine, like imagine like we

1640
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,039
have brainwashed ourselves to like raw spinach and broccoli, is

1641
01:25:17,039 --> 01:25:20,359
that you just have to eat. Honestly, if your grandmother

1642
01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:22,399
had access to it, like great grandmother, if she had

1643
01:25:22,399 --> 01:25:26,199
access to it, it's probably okay. It's probably okay. So

1644
01:25:26,319 --> 01:25:29,159
honey fruits. I know, they had bread, and they had

1645
01:25:29,359 --> 01:25:31,600
like things that were kind of processed, and they had

1646
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,439
like white sugar. But again, like we've lived with grains

1647
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,720
if we believe they have all this history for like

1648
01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:42,920
ten thousand years, two thousand years, so people did not

1649
01:25:43,079 --> 01:25:45,600
have all these health problems. And sugar has been around

1650
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,359
for like hundreds of years. So these health problems really

1651
01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:50,720
started when the oils and all these chemicals and the

1652
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,720
food supply entered in the last one hundred and twenty

1653
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,960
thirty years. So it's even like having some bread from

1654
01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,199
a non galifeh say it sort of organic source once

1655
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:02,720
in a while should be okay. If everything else is

1656
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,880
dialed in, you should be okay with some bread and

1657
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,760
some sugar and wine and whatever. Like we we still

1658
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,000
want to live. But if you got to get those

1659
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:13,520
ninety ninety five percent, right, and then the last five

1660
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,039
percent you do whatever you want. You know, you feel

1661
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:16,960
like a little bit of you know, shops to Bager

1662
01:26:17,359 --> 01:26:20,000
Master and lines of coke off a dirty toilet sea

1663
01:26:20,039 --> 01:26:23,159
at the local bar on a Saturday night. You'll do

1664
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:25,640
you you know what, I always tell people.

1665
01:26:25,399 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the quote, but that's gonna be that's

1666
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,800
gonna that's gonna be the quote that that's gonna be

1667
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,680
the thing that goes viral, how to live Longer and

1668
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:40,119
how to live. But well, on that note, man, this

1669
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,720
has been a great episode. I'm looking at the time

1670
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,600
and being cognizant. I know you got a one o'clock

1671
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,079
call here, so I'm let's wrap it up. Where can

1672
01:26:47,079 --> 01:26:50,920
people find you? And and uh and and if they

1673
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,479
want to learn more or or I know you have

1674
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,119
like a you know, like people can sign up and

1675
01:26:56,159 --> 01:26:58,439
have a spend a little get a little coaching call

1676
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,920
from you, and get a little get a little time

1677
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,720
with these stuff like where can people find you? And uh,

1678
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,720
you know, obviously your books on Amazon, but if they

1679
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,479
want to get in touch with you directly, or you know,

1680
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,640
are interested in working with you or seeing if they'll

1681
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,199
even be a good fit. How can how can they

1682
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:12,800
get reach out?

1683
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,039
Speaker 3: Appreciate it again? A lot of fun with your brother. Yeah,

1684
01:27:18,079 --> 01:27:21,760
so just the folks can go to Live Longer Formula

1685
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,960
dot com have a free kind of masterclass there. Get

1686
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,079
on my mating list. You can shoot me an email anytime.

1687
01:27:27,279 --> 01:27:28,720
There's a way to book a free cod with me

1688
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,600
if you need to help otherwise. You know, the book

1689
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,479
is on Amazon. Type my name in to your podcast

1690
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,680
player and my my podcast will come up and there's

1691
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,119
some good info there. And yeah, we're gonna have you

1692
01:27:40,199 --> 01:27:43,119
on on the podcast maybe in some time in February.

1693
01:27:43,119 --> 01:27:46,079
So I think I think, uh, you know, folks might

1694
01:27:46,119 --> 01:27:46,840
want to tune in for that.

1695
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely And you know, we we had talked about too

1696
01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:53,880
maybe doing like an affiliate program. So if if you

1697
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,720
are interested in working with Christian, we'll we'll at some

1698
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,600
point we're gonna unveil a promo code where you can

1699
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:00,399
get a little bit.

1700
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 3: Of yeah, yeah, yeah, and like to do that, like

1701
01:28:05,039 --> 01:28:07,119
I'll give you the link. But like if folks just

1702
01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:10,399
mention your name or the podcast, I'll look after them.

1703
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,279
You know, absolutely no, no that you'll be looked after.

1704
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm going to have everything in the show notes,

1705
01:28:16,079 --> 01:28:18,159
So if you're driving right now, you don't have to

1706
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:20,439
pull over and write things down. Well, everything gonna be

1707
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,840
in the show notes and linked up so you can

1708
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,720
get in touch with Christian. He's a wealth of knowledge.

1709
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,279
And like I said, I'm in the program and I

1710
01:28:27,359 --> 01:28:29,600
waited to have him on till I knew this was

1711
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,439
Like you know, I knew it was legit right off

1712
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,520
the rip, just just by the approach. But like you know,

1713
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,800
it's absolutely worked for me, and it it literally was

1714
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:40,920
a little overwhelming at first, right because it's it's a

1715
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,119
lot coming at you, and it challenges a lot of

1716
01:28:43,159 --> 01:28:45,520
the beliefs and a lot of the programming that's been.

1717
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: Low labs as well. Yeah, at the same time.

1718
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,399
Speaker 2: You're going to do the labs and then the answers

1719
01:28:51,399 --> 01:28:52,760
are right there, man, They're right in front of you,

1720
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,159
and it's lab work. It's like these are these this

1721
01:28:55,239 --> 01:28:57,760
lab work? I don't know why, well I do know why,

1722
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,000
but this should be every one of your primary should

1723
01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:01,520
be doing this stuff. Like you know what I mean,

1724
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,279
if if they were really concerned with your health, and

1725
01:29:04,359 --> 01:29:05,680
I'm not saying that they're not, but you know what

1726
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,760
I mean, if the health system was really concerned with

1727
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,640
you being healthy. They'd focus more on prevention and doing

1728
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,600
this type of lab work rather than just dealing with

1729
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:17,079
symptoms after the fact. And it's that simple too, But dude,

1730
01:29:17,079 --> 01:29:19,640
I appreciate it. I'm going to talk to you soon,

1731
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,079
and I gotta go. I gotta go to the studio

1732
01:29:23,159 --> 01:29:24,800
record vocals, so I'm not gonna be able to jump

1733
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,520
on the call today, but I'm gonna be back on

1734
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,600
the calls, man. And like I just I know, I

1735
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,680
was like I was pretty heavy on them, and then

1736
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,239
like I've been out the last couple but I've still

1737
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,399
been doing it, man. Like, like I said, these changes

1738
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,520
are like are just ingrained now and it's just part

1739
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:38,479
of life.

1740
01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 4: And it it's.

1741
01:29:40,359 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 2: Habited and it's easy. Man, Like you know, I lost

1742
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,640
fifty pounds. I wasn't. I don't think I was hungry

1743
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,680
once in the last three months, you know what I mean?

1744
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:50,319
Speaker 3: Like you, it's just and so many people eat more may.

1745
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: I've had to force myself and the thing forcing, I've

1746
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,680
had to force myself to eat some protein stuff like

1747
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,119
before bed or something. And I'm like, this is like

1748
01:29:59,239 --> 01:30:02,520
anti this is what goes against what everyone's telling you.

1749
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,319
But then I'm sleeping better, you know what I mean,

1750
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,239
and exactly due exactly it's why.

1751
01:30:07,359 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, like, not one person so far

1752
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,720
I've worked well, I mean a couple. But let's say

1753
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,960
from the last two hundred people I've worked with, maybe

1754
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,640
one percent two three people. Maybe we're eating too much.

1755
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,119
Most people actually eat very little. That's what Carnival low

1756
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:28,079
carbon ketto do is all that fat and usually the

1757
01:30:28,119 --> 01:30:32,119
protein helps is just you feel satiated. So especially initially,

1758
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,279
you just eat less. Spontaneously you eat less, and then

1759
01:30:35,319 --> 01:30:37,399
you remove the grains and the trash from the diet.

1760
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,079
So really the magic of Carnivor and KTTO is you

1761
01:30:41,119 --> 01:30:43,399
eat cleaner and you eat less calories. But here's the

1762
01:30:43,399 --> 01:30:46,000
thing that only works for a little while, and then

1763
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,079
then you paint yourself into a metabolic corner and then

1764
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,239
shit happens. So that the idea is we want to

1765
01:30:52,359 --> 01:30:55,000
avoid the metabolism the body going to this kind of

1766
01:30:55,279 --> 01:30:57,239
stress mode as I call it in the book. We

1767
01:30:57,279 --> 01:30:59,640
want to like we want to give it signals of

1768
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,760
a bus It becomes almost wasteful, Like a lot of

1769
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,840
the energy you produce the way we eat, it's just

1770
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,720
given off as heat. But that's really beneficial because how

1771
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,680
many people with hypothyroidism come to me with cold hands

1772
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,720
and they're always cold. I'm like, well, we will change

1773
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:15,920
that sooner or later, you know.

1774
01:31:16,199 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, And it just takes a little

1775
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,159
bit of time. And for all the Patreon subscribers, I

1776
01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:22,960
have an extra copy of this book, I'm gonna be

1777
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,880
giving it away to one of the Patreons. So if

1778
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,960
you haven't already signed up, go to patreon dot com

1779
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,079
Sash Big Truth check out my man, Christian. I'm gonna

1780
01:31:31,079 --> 01:31:34,000
have all the links in the show notes. And yeah, man,

1781
01:31:34,039 --> 01:31:36,239
this was a killer episode, dude. I appreciate you coming on,

1782
01:31:36,279 --> 01:31:40,880
and hopefully we get some people thinking about things and

1783
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,119
really ready to get healthy in twenty twenty six, man,

1784
01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:46,279
because this year I'm going hard in the field, dude,

1785
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:50,479
like I've already straightened out, Like I'm going hard business wise,

1786
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,439
going hard health wise, and and you know, you know,

1787
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,479
and you've been a big help with that, man, and

1788
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,199
so I appreciate it. And I can't think of you

1789
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,880
all right, And that wraps it up today. Hopefully you

1790
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,840
learn something. There's a lot more out there. Follow the

1791
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:09,279
links in the show notes to learn more, make sure

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01:32:09,319 --> 01:32:13,560
you subscribe to the new, updated, revamped YouTube channel at

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01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,399
so it's work in progress, but it's definitely all revamped,

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Speaker 3: Could?

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01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 7: I just raise a glass to the wondrous creature who's

1817
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,640
brought us this fine Easter spread, the succulent irish lamb

1818
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,359
or salmon for the fish fans, the cauliflower, cheese and

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creamy col cannon, and of course for all the eggs provided.

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We'll never know how you do it all, or quite frankly,

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who you are. But to you, Easter Bunny, we say cheers.

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