Speaker 1: To Bail to Bail is here four finger Discount.
Speaker 2: Dude, welcome to four figure Discount where we are doing
Speaker 2: our June mail bag. I'm gonna be answering your questions
Speaker 2: and discussing some Simpsons news and just some what's been
Speaker 2: happening here at four finger Discount.
Speaker 1: I am down it and iron guy. Nice to be here.
Speaker 1: Nice to be digging deep into that mail bag. Big
Speaker 1: mail bag this month. It's pretty heavy. Someone say, too big,
Speaker 1: it's a little heavy. We're got to read everything. Let's
Speaker 1: find out.
Speaker 2: Let's find out. Yeah, how are you doing, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm good? A little chili.
Speaker 2: You mentioned last week actually that you were getting your udi?
Speaker 2: Did it arrive? And do you appreciate it?
Speaker 1: And a you do? You wish you got it sooner?
Speaker 1: Yes on all counts, Yes, this is correct. As I
Speaker 1: may have said, the algorithm was listening. I was saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't did the whole thing. You do it. It's
Speaker 1: cold in here, must be some toros in the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: I feel much better now, Okay say the line, But yes, sir,
Speaker 1: the algorithm was clearly this thing. Yeah, ads were coming up.
Speaker 1: Have you considered an udie which I hadn't really, I thought,
Speaker 1: do I want to be walking around like home with
Speaker 1: the moo moo on, except you know, a warmer version.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the kids have got them. You've
Speaker 1: got plenty. I low balled Dan though. We were talking
Speaker 1: about Udi's the other day and he said, how many
Speaker 1: do you think this was on the podcast last week?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, okay, okay, I thought you were saying that.
Speaker 2: Let the listas know we had this conversation off air. That's
Speaker 2: what I thought you were employing. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: but you gave me seven. I was like seven, Have
Speaker 2: you met me?
Speaker 1: But now I understand completely because I got home. It's
Speaker 1: a nice, chunky package waiting for me at the front door.
Speaker 1: Open it up. It's a dooner you can wear now.
Speaker 1: You were asking me, did I get a patent? One? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you get what pattern?
Speaker 1: Did you get? I think? Have you seen me? I'm
Speaker 1: a fairly dull individual.
Speaker 2: If I could find a north face Udi, would you
Speaker 2: want it for your birthday?
Speaker 1: Oh? My god, I'm a monogamous kind of fella. So
Speaker 1: I've got my one, Udi? Do you think I should
Speaker 1: have more than one? I'm asking to have at least two.
Speaker 1: So when one goes in the wash.
Speaker 2: Because one goes in the wash takes a while to
Speaker 2: dry because they're thick and sounds correct, you go have
Speaker 2: the backup, the backup, Woodie.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea. Okay, well you can find
Speaker 1: a north face one. No, no, don't, don't spend your
Speaker 1: money on me there. But who arrived? Oh? This feels
Speaker 1: like it's got some heft to it. Rip it open,
Speaker 1: no pattern, just straight, sort of elegant slate gray in
Speaker 1: the Guy David style. Slip it on, where have you
Speaker 1: been on my life? So it was the third best
Speaker 1: embrace I ever had, after my loving mother, Margaret, Mary,
Speaker 1: the Lovely Louise and now Udi?
Speaker 2: Have you worn it yet with nothing else on underneath? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god? Is that an option?
Speaker 2: It's the best wake up for in the morning. You're nude,
Speaker 2: wake your udy on. It covers you down to your knees.
Speaker 1: You're fine.
Speaker 2: Just sounds decadent, it's so good. It's basically walking around
Speaker 2: nw but you're warm, m so good. Do it nude,
Speaker 2: Woodie wearing it's the way to go during winter. It
Speaker 2: sounds vaguely except when you're sitting on the couch. Make
Speaker 2: sure that no one's in front of you because your
Speaker 2: balls are just out.
Speaker 1: But you're basic instinct to up the place. But that
Speaker 1: has arrived slipped. Oh yeah, I'm very very happy about that.
Speaker 1: I've taken.
Speaker 2: I've got a backup Homer mumu Woody. I'm considering maybe
Speaker 2: a good TV birthday.
Speaker 1: Well it's taking the a jopp here. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: certainly just one good thing that's happened in the world. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's good. How about you? What's going on? What has been.
Speaker 2: Going on since last week. I'm just in a good
Speaker 2: place at the moment. I'm just happy, you know. I
Speaker 2: think I know why I'm so happy today because Nicola
Speaker 2: looked Rootto last night for dinner. That'll always help, always helps, indeed,
Speaker 2: and the kids were I mean, I love having the
Speaker 2: kids here, but sometimes it's like Nicholas looking Rosotto. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there watching Simpsons or whatever, and the world's at peace,
Speaker 2: the house is quiet, no cash.
Speaker 1: It on the floor. Oh and Jewish, we should tell them.
Speaker 2: What happened yesterday. So you were like, should I close
Speaker 2: this door? And I was like, yes, please, And because
Speaker 2: the cats here are so naughty unless you close that
Speaker 2: door properly, like properly close, they're going to break in.
Speaker 2: So guys closed the door, but it must have been
Speaker 2: like slightly opened, a skew like I was honestly of
Speaker 2: the like, yeah, but it must have just whatever, whatever happened.
Speaker 2: Maybe they open the door themselves. Who knows. But guy
Speaker 2: walks out the door, he say see you tomorrow or whatever.
Speaker 2: And then within thirty seven it was literally within thirty seconds,
Speaker 2: I'm in the kitchen having drinker of water. Out here
Speaker 2: bang crash bang bang bang bang. It was like three
Speaker 2: or four bangs, five bangs. I thought, oh shit, I
Speaker 2: thought something'd fallen down in the garage. All pass and
Speaker 2: I see my doors open. My heart starts racing on going,
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Those lights, those lights that were standing there,
Speaker 2: now I can see that they're on their side. I
Speaker 2: can see that water bottle that was on my desk,
Speaker 2: it's no longer on the desk where it once was.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, so walk in here. The ginger
Speaker 2: cat's sitting on the table like I didn't do it.
Speaker 2: And there's microphones on the floor, spillboater everywhere, hard drives
Speaker 2: hanging off the bench, lights everywhere. One camera's leaning against
Speaker 2: the wall, here, nothing broke. Even if it did break,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: What do you know? But here's the thing. These are
Speaker 1: small cats. There are big cats. These are pretty much kittens.
Speaker 1: You should still you should hit.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I was slightly scared the other night in bed.
Speaker 2: I mean I say scared. I wasn't scared scared, but
Speaker 2: I was a little bit, right, a little bit nervous.
Speaker 2: I'm laying your bed and we locked the cats out.
Speaker 2: We got the cats out of the bedroom. Now it's
Speaker 2: just like, no, you guys, stay out there. Your trees.
Speaker 2: You got everything in here, as in like cat trees,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff to sleep right your beds. You
Speaker 2: have plenty of beds to sleep in, all the kids beds.
Speaker 2: And then we locked them out, and the ginger one
Speaker 2: is just charging at the door, just with his head.
Speaker 1: I'll do that.
Speaker 2: This is literally like being in a horror movie, like
Speaker 2: the Shining. They're reaching under the door, all three paws
Speaker 2: reaching under ship, all three doors. Okay, you may have
Speaker 2: caught this on video. We may have, just you didn't
Speaker 2: see the bottle. But here's the thing. I think cats
Speaker 2: might be innocent. Dan nearly knocked the water bottle over himself,
Speaker 2: and it's if he could knock it over with his
Speaker 2: mighty fists. They're doing it vicariously. Three because I'm talking
Speaker 2: about them anyway, It was that it was a visual.
Speaker 2: I look up, right, I get my torch on my phone,
Speaker 2: look up towards the door. There's just these three paws
Speaker 2: just under the door, and one of them is like
Speaker 2: boom into it, and I'm like, leave me alone. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so three cats based all go away.
Speaker 1: I did this video essay recently for Oh sorry, actually
Speaker 1: I written essay this one for our friends and Umbrella Entertainment.
Speaker 1: They are our friends, they are indeed our friends about well,
Speaker 1: it's for a movie called Black Sheep, which is a
Speaker 1: horror movie about killer sheep. Yeah, so I wrote this
Speaker 1: essay about unusual animal attack movie because you know, we're
Speaker 1: all used to sharks and grizzlies and you know, incredibly
Speaker 1: sized snakes and all this kind of business. But yeah,
Speaker 1: for a while, there's a rash of horror movies that
Speaker 1: had like cats in them, and you think, but like
Speaker 1: the tweet says, cats are perpetually pissed off because their
Speaker 1: nature's perfect killing machine. But they weighed eight pounds and
Speaker 1: we can keep picking them up and kissing them. So
Speaker 1: it's like, how threatening can cats be? Even though if
Speaker 1: you've been scratched by cat's like, oh god, damn man.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember once the cat was scared by
Speaker 2: the vacuum went to touch it and she I had
Speaker 2: like twelve cuts in my hands within that space of
Speaker 2: five seconds.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just done. Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like fighting wolverine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was just gone and it was just blood
Speaker 2: everywhere I was, my hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I was Actually I was surprisingly able
Speaker 1: to devote a large section of the piece to Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't mess with cats. They are actual horror movie villains.
Speaker 1: And now you've discovered this.
Speaker 2: Yes, but so this month here and forthing a Disco,
Speaker 2: what have we covered? We have covered any teeny mi mo.
Speaker 2: We did a classic review of Kate Krusty, as voted
Speaker 2: by the patrons, and we also reviewed The Good, the Sad,
Speaker 2: and the Drugly both those season twenty episodes. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say good episodes on season twenty levels seasons.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean we were I think quite surprised,
Speaker 1: won't we. I mean we're not we were expecting. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we're in the weeds now. Yeah, but these were solid
Speaker 1: on a structural levels, like oh yeah, this is yeah,
Speaker 1: got a good idea and executed pretty well. But more
Speaker 1: than that, it had a lot of gags. And it's like,
Speaker 1: if you take this out of a season twenty and
Speaker 1: you're excerted it like a season eight, yeah, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: exactly be out of place.
Speaker 2: I think we're talking about the John Adams John Adams, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the mini series John Adams about the He wasn't a president,
Speaker 2: was he.
Speaker 1: I think he was one of the founding farst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, me Toomas Jeff Jefferson. He was hanging
Speaker 2: with those guys. But yeah, but those gigs worked. I
Speaker 2: think overall, so far of season twenty, I don't think
Speaker 2: we've hit an era where there's been say, three or
Speaker 2: four really shitty episodes in a row.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think we've hit that many rough patches.
Speaker 1: And maybe we're just being extreme for the ptimistic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we've got our rose colored glasses on.
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you're going to compare them to
Speaker 2: the originals, like the Golden Era, yes they're not going
Speaker 2: to be as good, but you've got to compare them
Speaker 2: for the ear in which they will release that it's correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, we're not especially negative people
Speaker 1: here at the Full Finger disc and Network. We're kind
Speaker 1: of optimists. We like to err on the side of
Speaker 1: posital have to be you have to be oh, yes,
Speaker 1: that's correct. So but no, I think I think we
Speaker 1: have both been pretty pleased, certainly the quality of any
Speaker 1: teeny mamo and yeah, the good the sound and the
Speaker 1: drug ly. Yeah, they had their ifty parts and they
Speaker 1: had their parts. Just come to expect that.
Speaker 2: Now season twenty, I think, I think what I'm watching
Speaker 2: these episodes Now, I go in with we always have
Speaker 2: no expectations, but I just go in just expecting it
Speaker 2: to not be the best and just try and find
Speaker 2: some sort of positivity. By the end of it, I'm like,
Speaker 2: it wasn't so bad.
Speaker 1: Was it? No, it's interesting, We're going to be We
Speaker 1: are a lot of good questions in the mailbag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's one of them that sort of semi addresses this.
Speaker 1: I'll talk about it when we get to that. But
Speaker 1: just to reiterate, season twenty, not so bad, so bad
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but next month from season twenty, we shall be
Speaker 2: reviewing Father nos worst and Waverley Hills nine oh two.
Speaker 2: One'm sure you're a fan.
Speaker 1: Of that art. Oh. Absolutely, it's already a five star
Speaker 1: classic based on that time alone.
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Speaker 2: And we have Old Money as well because Grandpa missus
Speaker 2: Bee's birthday.
Speaker 1: Indeed, now then I were talking about this and I
Speaker 1: think he slapped Old Money in there as a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a treat to yours, truly, because
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Speaker 2: Lit'sten into some mail bag questions Shallby I couldn't really
Speaker 2: find much Simpson's news. There were some interviews with like
Speaker 2: Matt sal when they went to some sort of convention
Speaker 2: and whatnot. They're talking about how it's gonna be seventeen
Speaker 2: episodes each season now are going forward. I think we're
Speaker 2: pretty much touched on that last month and things like that.
Speaker 2: So we'll just get into some mailbag questions. This one
Speaker 2: he comes from Brandon Twitch. He says, let's say the
Speaker 2: Simpsons do an episode all about podcasting, which I already have.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's called podcast news.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like that would be a bad podcast.
Speaker 2: And you and Guy are brought on for a cameo role.
Speaker 2: What would you want your roles to be? Well, I
Speaker 2: don't think we'd play fictional characters. Do you think do
Speaker 2: you think we'd play ourselves? I think we should, but
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a bit of a heel turn.
Speaker 2: And it's revealed that I'm actually like a really nasty,
Speaker 2: bad boss who's always sort of like cracking the whip
Speaker 2: on you, even though it appears that one of us
Speaker 2: doesn't actually exist, it's actually an AI bot.
Speaker 1: Well that's a good point. Yeah, but how do you know.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've been watching too many of those videos
Speaker 1: and listen to too many of those podcasts with the
Speaker 1: whole prompt theory nonsense and everything like that. We're just
Speaker 1: laboring under this mass illusion the moment brains are getting rewired.
Speaker 1: It's very weird, very weird time to be alive. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it'd be good if I.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, let's look at podcast news and see what
Speaker 2: the story was. Don I'm pretty sure I've saw the
Speaker 2: title podcast News. I haven't watched it yet. You think
Speaker 2: I would have, wouldn't You would think so, But you
Speaker 2: gotta on your plate Podcast News, Yes not. Season thirty two,
Speaker 2: Episode six, Margin Lisa get addicted to True Crime podcast.
Speaker 2: Grandpa's accused of a crime camp. Brockman questions his career.
Speaker 2: So margin Lesa get did it to true crime podcast?
Speaker 2: Because everyone's added the True crime podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty two, So, oh my goodness, how long there
Speaker 1: were that? That was?
Speaker 2: That's four seasons ago, four years ago. Now, isn't that
Speaker 2: in the same season thirty two? You think it's now? No,
Speaker 2: it's four years ago.
Speaker 1: What. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. Do you remember or
Speaker 1: have you heard of the podcast Cereal?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean remember that was huge, and that's
Speaker 1: sort of I don't think it kicked off the true
Speaker 1: crime podcast thing, but it really was kind of an
Speaker 1: apex for it when it was like, hey, everyone's like me, Hey,
Speaker 1: have you heard about Cereal? Yeah? Loop, So actually I
Speaker 1: think Cereal's probably before that, but yeah, since it's sort
Speaker 1: of maybe a little bit late to.
Speaker 2: That way without just capitalizing on the fact that everyone
Speaker 2: listened to True crime pot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it sounds nice that that maybe Grandpa's folded
Speaker 1: into that. And of course Ken Brockton like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: just then I'm out of a job.
Speaker 2: Us feel like Forming a discount in the Simpsons universe
Speaker 2: could actually be a crime podcast because it's about stealing.
Speaker 2: Because we're just folling a discount's about stealing things. Well,
Speaker 2: that's great, that's what it's named for. So it could
Speaker 2: literally be a true crime podcast. Forming a discount in
Speaker 2: the Simpsons universe.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've rock into town and we're investigating the
Speaker 1: crime nature of Springfield. Yeah, okay, they not bad either.
Speaker 1: That or we replace Bill and Marty or you know
Speaker 1: it's a steel cage in the radio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like radio has got a future.
Speaker 1: This is growth industry.
Speaker 2: But thank you for the question of Brandon. By the way, guys,
Speaker 2: if you do want to get in touch for next
Speaker 2: month's mail bag, it's just mail bag at fourfing a
Speaker 2: discount dot com dot au. Next one hears from Mark Mason.
Speaker 2: Mark says, should the Simpsons have ended at its peak,
Speaker 2: say around season ten? And do you think the show's
Speaker 2: legacy would be any different if it did? Do you
Speaker 2: think the Simpsons if it ended in season at season ten,
Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety eight, would we look back more fondly
Speaker 2: on the show? Would people widespread look back on the
Speaker 2: show more finally? Because it feels like now the consensus
Speaker 2: is just let it die. Just let it die, right.
Speaker 2: I get that that can be your opinion. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with that because your opinion, that's fine. Would the
Speaker 2: show's legacy be different? Let's compare it to Seinfeld. If
Speaker 2: Seinfeld won't say five more seasons, do you think people
Speaker 2: will look back on Siinefeld as funny as they do?
Speaker 2: I think Seinfeld was a genius to get out when
Speaker 2: they're on top. It's a shame we didn't get more Seinfeld,
Speaker 2: but it was for the right reasons.
Speaker 1: I think. So. Yeah, I mean, I think Jerry is
Speaker 1: definitely on the record as saying, yeah, we'd rather go
Speaker 1: out on top. We'd rather go out with some juice
Speaker 1: in the tank number one show than just drain it dry,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe run a little low on inspiration or whatever.
Speaker 1: And the thing of it is, you know, then you
Speaker 1: can take that cachet and cloud that you've got going
Speaker 1: out on top of the champ and start doing other things.
Speaker 1: If you're Jerry, well, you know, you do what you do.
Speaker 1: You want, movie, you do me, movie, all that Unfrosted movie,
Speaker 1: which I still have yet to watch.
Speaker 2: I'm watching it, neither of Oh yeah, but that's just
Speaker 2: the nature of things. I have so many films, right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna think I enjoy that, I'll watch it, and
Speaker 2: I never do. Yeah, it just keeps it. They you're
Speaker 2: throwing new stuff at us, that's true. Yeah, but he
Speaker 2: has the driving driving around this porsch with like Eddie
Speaker 2: Murphy and other comedians and things like that.
Speaker 1: But also you get curb. Yes, yeah, so here's what
Speaker 1: I was thinking. This is what I was talking about
Speaker 1: earlier when talking about the end of the world, the
Speaker 1: end of the world and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I want to do. If we'd say it ended at
Speaker 1: season ten, the Simpsons that ended at season ten, we
Speaker 1: would probably be picking knits about the episodes that already exists,
Speaker 1: because episodes we now consider untouchable. It's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: this is all we've got to work with. This is
Speaker 1: all we've got to compare it to. Within its own
Speaker 1: little ecosystem, We're probably like, oh, you know what, everyone says,
Speaker 1: that's really funny. I'm not sure if it is, and
Speaker 1: then you it doesn't work the these reasons, I think
Speaker 1: it will still be quite well regarded. But I think you'd
Speaker 1: probably be looking at those ten episodes and you'd be
Speaker 1: concentrating more on them as opposed to like, this season
Speaker 1: of episode nine is fantastic, especially compared to that episode
Speaker 1: from season twenty nine.
Speaker 2: So I think the Simpsons would as great as The
Speaker 2: Simpsons is, as pivotal on and as huge as The
Speaker 2: Simpsons was in the nineties. I'm going to throw it
Speaker 2: out there and say if The Simpsons ended up the
Speaker 2: season ten, it would be almost forgotten in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: it would be that show that your parents watched when
Speaker 2: they were kids to kids to kids these days, because
Speaker 2: the Simpsons has gone on right our era of the show,
Speaker 2: it's almost like the Star Wars trilogies. Right, our ear
Speaker 2: of the show was the nineties when we were growing up.
Speaker 2: Kids who were born in the late late nineties or
Speaker 2: early two thousands, their era is the team year.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 2: They grew up on those ones. They like those ones.
Speaker 2: I've seen it in threads on Facebook. I know these
Speaker 2: are my favorite. These the ones I watched when I
Speaker 2: was a kid. There are kids who were born during
Speaker 2: the twenties seasons. That's their episodes. Sure, the show has
Speaker 2: evolved over time, and that's very, very important. But because
Speaker 2: it's evolved, it's not the show that we grew up
Speaker 2: with anymore, which means, oh, it's not as good anymore.
Speaker 2: That's not the mentality, don't They've evolved with the times.
Speaker 2: So I now put the Simpsons off of the kids
Speaker 2: they genuinely want to watch the new episodes. Of course,
Speaker 2: a lot of it comes down probably the way it
Speaker 2: looks as well, because the old ones look hand drawn
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But I just think that the modern episodes
Speaker 2: are more tailored humor wise for kids of today. They
Speaker 2: wash the old ones, and I don't know whether the
Speaker 2: attention spans are different or anything, but they get that,
Speaker 2: they get the references where the references in the more
Speaker 2: modern episodes of The Simpsons are more up to date
Speaker 2: at least anyway. They wash the old ones and the
Speaker 2: kids they're like, oh, yeah, it's funny because it's just
Speaker 2: wacky cartoons, but they don't quite get it. They watched
Speaker 2: the new episodes and they seem to understand the stories more.
Speaker 2: So I think it was It's great that The Simpsons
Speaker 2: has gone on because it means that kids now can
Speaker 2: enjoy and they've got this huge back catalog to go
Speaker 2: and back and enjoy as well. Because if I said
Speaker 2: to the kid, the kids now only watch this old show,
Speaker 2: it would just be seen as this old show because
Speaker 2: they can see modern version of it is while they
Speaker 2: can go, oh, it's not just this old show. It
Speaker 2: was once older, but it's got newer. That makes any sense?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. How many times I've quoted that piece
Speaker 1: from the Onion, you know, the satirical newspaper, where it's yeah,
Speaker 1: basically parents, raise a child on pop culture that makes
Speaker 1: child absolutely out of touch with the modern world.
Speaker 2: That's what happens.
Speaker 1: To Listen, talking heads listen to the sex pistles, all
Speaker 1: the kinds up. It's great, it's great, it's great, and
Speaker 1: they'll be like, yeah, but I've got stuff that my
Speaker 1: generation listens to right now. Speaks too much. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, means by means trying to inform them. Both
Speaker 1: have both, of course, but no, the Star Wars analogy
Speaker 1: is very, very correct. You've got to sort of evolve
Speaker 1: with the times. And even if the purists who were
Speaker 1: there for like, oh, we were there for Ground zero, man,
Speaker 1: we were there with the premiere episode of The Simpsons
Speaker 1: or the release in seventy seven of the original Star Wars.
Speaker 1: That's nice, that's great, that's fantastic. You know, buildings, things
Speaker 1: are built on foundations, but you know there's also new levels,
Speaker 1: new story.
Speaker 2: Be thankful that you were there for that and you've
Speaker 2: got that sort of that nostalgia for that era. Right,
Speaker 2: But don't say that I can't enjoy the modern ear
Speaker 2: because you don't.
Speaker 1: That's correct, And as we always say about certain things,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, don't watch it. Don't watch it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't deprive anyone else from it from watching it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe don't even be like the kind of
Speaker 1: goose who says, oh this sucks. I mean, even if
Speaker 1: you think it does. But maybe just generally just hey,
Speaker 1: if you like this, you might also like that. That
Speaker 1: has been one of the guiding principles that I've always
Speaker 1: had in being a critic, being a reviewer, being a
Speaker 1: being a writer. If you like this, you might also
Speaker 1: enjoy this. Yeah, that's a I think that's a great
Speaker 1: way to be.
Speaker 2: And so I just don't think kids would enjoy the
Speaker 2: Simpsons as much if it was just this old hand
Speaker 2: drawn cartoon because they can see that it's more modern now.
Speaker 2: They're more willing to go back to the old ones
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Oh very much. So. Yeah, and I think you're going
Speaker 1: to if that was the case of there was only
Speaker 1: ten seasons, you're going to get a very select fan
Speaker 1: base unless you were there. Yeah, and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: sort of current generation.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, unless their parents are enforcing it on them,
Speaker 2: who would be like.
Speaker 1: You know, what's good old stuff? You know, old things
Speaker 1: were better back then. And I'm not sure how many
Speaker 1: kids think that way. How many young people think that way.
Speaker 1: But you get a little not older, but say late teens,
Speaker 1: early twenties, and you're like, maybe I should check out
Speaker 1: the influences and the inspirations of the stuff that I
Speaker 1: like now, because you know it might it might speak
Speaker 1: to me in a different way.
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Speaker 2: being a parents really helped me learn and understand that
Speaker 2: modern stuff is okay. There is some stuff that's crap, right,
Speaker 2: But I see the kids, right, and there is this
Speaker 2: song the like it's like apt it's called that.
Speaker 1: It's like I took me.
Speaker 2: They kept singing it to me, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what that's called, Like it's called ata and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm looking for it.
Speaker 1: I can't find it's apt and the I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: can't remember that it's Lisa or.
Speaker 2: I eventually found and I'm watching some I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is utter rotby, you know what. All these kids love it,
Speaker 2: and just because I don't enjoy it doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: not good. It's what these kids like. I'm sure I
Speaker 2: listened to music when I was a kid that my
Speaker 2: parents thought was absolute garbage. But to me, it's like
Speaker 2: the greatest thing ever. Oh yeah, it's just the circle
Speaker 2: of life, mate, it really is. And I'm learning to
Speaker 2: just go, don't be grumpy old Dando because it's not
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven music anymore, you know, just it's okay.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. One of the lawyss is I think
Speaker 1: I think Audrey was saying, we heard that in the
Speaker 1: background somewhere upper tap up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, ah, but holy but what the hell
Speaker 2: are you saying? Or you saying appetite? What are you saying?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Dirty looks like it's catchy as hell. It really is,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it is, yeah, but it almost feels like
Speaker 1: and it feels weird to say this, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: all pop songs songs are designed this way, but it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so catchy. I can't stop
Speaker 1: listening to it, even if I really I can't hate it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I can't stop listening to
Speaker 1: it because yeah, I had it in my head the
Speaker 1: other day as well, and I'm like, I gotta look
Speaker 1: this up, but I don't know exactly what it is either.
Speaker 1: It was like and finally found it, and then I
Speaker 1: listened to it like three times in a row. It's like,
Speaker 1: I know I don't like this, but I can't stop
Speaker 1: listening to it. Why is that the case?
Speaker 2: Where's that There's that song that's like please stay, I
Speaker 2: want you, I need you, Oh god damn.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I heard that and I was like, wow, I'm like,
Speaker 2: is this catchy? But whatever, it's just a it's just
Speaker 2: a new song or whatever. And then they kids had
Speaker 2: this talent show on Monday at the school assembly and
Speaker 2: one of these kids sang that song, and the entire
Speaker 2: in school or every kid starts singing this song along
Speaker 2: with this girl, and I was like, there you go, music.
Speaker 1: I believe the song You're referring to is Beautiful Things
Speaker 1: by Benson Boone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm listening. I'm like, essentially, it's a good song.
Speaker 1: Actually I actually like it now, that one. I don't
Speaker 1: like seeing.
Speaker 2: All the kids singing it together. I was like, Ah,
Speaker 2: that's what he's exposed to do.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Yeah, there is probably a variation
Speaker 1: on that that's not that different from Beautiful Things that
Speaker 1: I was listening to back when I was a teenager
Speaker 1: or in my twenties or whatever. And who and Benson
Speaker 1: Moon probably listened to something like that and was inspired
Speaker 1: by it. And I'm like, yeah, but I like my version.
Speaker 1: I don't like your version. And because that his version
Speaker 1: is not for.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm just wasn't. Yeah, I'm learning to like new
Speaker 2: music through the kids, you know, because they get into
Speaker 2: the age now where that they're starting to discover pop music.
Speaker 2: It's not just they listen to what I put on
Speaker 2: the radio. I know, we hear songs at school when
Speaker 2: you put this one on please, or they go to
Speaker 2: a friend's house and they put the music on or whatever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, just getting old and realizing that new music
Speaker 2: ain't so bad.
Speaker 1: It's a good lesson.
Speaker 2: But thank you for the question mark, that was a
Speaker 2: good question.
Speaker 1: That was a good question. Howd us talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Samantha Leamy says, what are the most hated Simpsons episodes?
Speaker 2: I keep reading that the Lady Gaga episode is terrible,
Speaker 2: so I've never bothered to watch it. Do you have
Speaker 2: any others that come to mind? So I know to
Speaker 2: avoid them. It's funny because I saw Yardley Smith recently
Speaker 2: shared a clip of her singing with Lady Gaga on Twitter.
Speaker 2: I've still get to watch the episode. I think we
Speaker 2: should do it as an exclusive from Patreona because I
Speaker 2: always hear it like that's the worst of the worst.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is it?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: I think it just came at a time when people
Speaker 2: didn't like Lady Gaga. It was this she'd been was
Speaker 2: just in everything, right. I think everyone's come to appreciate
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga for It's like me with modern music. I'm
Speaker 2: just like, it was actually a really good performer, Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: Oh goodness. It takes a little while, and yeah, there's
Speaker 1: probably some kind of formula or progression that we could
Speaker 1: draw up. I imagine it happens pretty similarly in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. But it's like, oh, this person's being
Speaker 1: forced on me all the time. I'm here for Brina Carpenter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing nothing but their music, or I'm seeing nothing
Speaker 1: but them in my algorithm or on magazine covers. Remember
Speaker 1: magazines they had covered they were good too. Oh yeah, no, great,
Speaker 1: They're all I'm saying. I'm getting overexposed and I don't
Speaker 1: like it. And then maybe the yeah, the switch will flip,
Speaker 1: just the script will flip just a little bit, and
Speaker 1: it's like, as you said, you know, Ganga actually is
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I don't know when I'm specifically she's amazing.
Speaker 1: You know when I was a pretty good look pretty good.
Speaker 1: I think it was around the time of bad Romance. Look,
Speaker 1: you know what, actual banger got a bit of time
Speaker 1: for Lady Gaga. But initially you think, oh, she's just
Speaker 1: ripping off Madonna.
Speaker 2: Well, and then I felt she was just trying to
Speaker 2: be weird for se weird. That's what I felt like
Speaker 2: when I was a teenager. Oh sure, I'm like, you're
Speaker 2: just you're wearing dress with meat to a fucking to
Speaker 2: the Oscar nuvel whatever.
Speaker 1: And yeah, not we've come full circle. But it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's done for the next iteration of that, and it's
Speaker 1: probably Chapel Rowan or something like that. Oh, we were
Speaker 1: just ripping off those two words but together. I have
Speaker 1: no idea what you just said. No worry, Holly's going
Speaker 1: to start listening to her in any minute now. And you're, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: then I don't mind Chapel row On either. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she's the latest version of that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But I just think that episode in particularly came out
Speaker 2: of time, and I think people might have been sick
Speaker 2: of her. Oh, so they instantly hated it, And I
Speaker 2: wonder if you go back and actually watch it, I'm
Speaker 2: just in treat. Is it a bad episode or you
Speaker 2: just didn't like Leady?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And because everyone.
Speaker 2: Goes the Elon Musk episode is terrible one too. Is
Speaker 2: it a bad episode or you just don't want is
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, You've got this idea in
Speaker 1: your mind of like, well, Lisa's like this, you know,
Speaker 1: and she likes these kind of things, and she stands
Speaker 1: for these kinds of things, and for her to stand
Speaker 1: for Elon Musk, who Yeah, for a while, they were
Speaker 1: thinking this conception was different. The perception was defe like, yeah, look,
Speaker 1: he's a weirdo, but he's kind of, you know, an
Speaker 1: eccentric genius, and we like, our genius is to be
Speaker 1: a little bit eccentric. He's our weimy. He's a weirdo,
Speaker 1: but he's our wedder. And now we realize, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: he gets more and more popular, more and more a
Speaker 1: high profile. Oh that's a bit weird. Ah you're aligning
Speaker 1: and oh you kind of cringe, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: You know, everything from you're disturbingly and discussingly cringe to oh,
Speaker 1: you are helped bringing about the downfall of Western civilization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just how does this relate to the episode of
Speaker 1: The Simpsons that he was a guest star on. How
Speaker 1: does that relate to the episode of Saturday Night Live
Speaker 1: where he was the guest host. Maybe let's do it
Speaker 1: in July.
Speaker 2: Let's review the Gargo episodes so we can come back
Speaker 2: to the mail back and give our thoughts. Well, we're
Speaker 2: gonna review for the Patreon, but we'll give our little
Speaker 2: teas thoughts on the on the mailbank next month.
Speaker 1: Fine, I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I'm genuinely intrigued to see whether it's a bad episode
Speaker 2: or night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I'm wondering if these most hated episodes they
Speaker 1: tend to be less about, Oh that episode doesn't work
Speaker 1: because that story is no good, or you're making home
Speaker 1: even more egregiously dumb ass than he has been in
Speaker 1: previous or insensitive or whatever. Or is it like they've
Speaker 1: cashed in or they've you know, they've sold out by
Speaker 1: getting so and so as a guest star, the popular
Speaker 1: star of the day, like they had the I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how well regarded or her well liked. The short
Speaker 1: when Billy met Lisa is the one with Billie Eilish.
Speaker 2: Either short, yeah, yeah, well, this is the thing we
Speaker 2: always again with kids, kids like the short kid's got
Speaker 2: short attentionspans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all do these days, but kids especially.
Speaker 2: That someone literally said to me. He says, they asked
Speaker 2: for these shorts because that's a good way of introducing
Speaker 2: kids to the show, and they work. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, now that you've explained that, it actually
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. Sure, I watched it. I watched those
Speaker 2: shorts and I'm just like, there is nothing here. This
Speaker 2: is just the Simpsons are on the screen for a
Speaker 2: few minutes.
Speaker 1: That's all it is.
Speaker 2: There's no substance really at all, and the kids watch
Speaker 2: it and they're like, put it on again. I'm like
Speaker 2: that nothing happened, and I put it on again. Okay,
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you know what, I don't mind because
Speaker 2: the kids now like the Simpsons because of the short
Speaker 2: Oh sure, but the ones people seem to hate. They
Speaker 2: always go back to that ninety show, which we really enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Remember that ninety show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's people say that's the episode they turned
Speaker 2: off the Simpsons, and I go really, yeah, Now, maybe
Speaker 2: in the time it felt annoyed, but you go back
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, now, when did it come out, like
Speaker 2: two thousand and three or five or whatever.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Oh yeah, But what do I always say?
Speaker 1: I I always quote Bell from Raiders at the Lost
Speaker 1: Ark when he said, you look look at this. Watch
Speaker 1: what if a ten bucks from that go on the street.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take it out of the desert, bury
Speaker 1: it for a thousand years. You'll dig it up and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this is priceless. Ten years
Speaker 1: we'll look back at that nineties episode and going, guess what,
Speaker 1: actually not that bad? Whether that's you know, the influence
Speaker 1: of nostalgia. Maybe we just didn't appreciate what we had
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 2: Who knows, but I will say, Samantha, please avoid Codependence Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm watch her since far. I love that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Codependants stay. Yeah, I'm a drink driving. Put
Speaker 2: March behind the wheel and Bailey on her No, great,
Speaker 2: not good at all? All right, Tyson Bradford, what is
Speaker 2: your favorite Simpson's exterior shot. I've always been a fan
Speaker 2: of the supermarket with the trolley rolling out of the
Speaker 2: car park, which they continue to use for many seasons,
Speaker 2: despite it looking like the old animation style. I know
Speaker 2: what he's saying, so basically it would be like season
Speaker 2: eight and look like season two. It's used the same
Speaker 2: exterior shot. I've always said I'm a big fan of
Speaker 2: the Simpsons early morning Springfield, Springfield at night, or Springfield
Speaker 2: at dawn, Dawn in the morning, right, Yeah, dawn is
Speaker 2: the morning, so Springford at dawn where the suns are
Speaker 2: starting to rise, the alf Clausen's music queue. It's just
Speaker 2: it's peaceful, it's quiet.
Speaker 1: I've always really enjoyed that. Yeah, I was, I was
Speaker 1: really thinking about this, and honestly, I was drawing a blank.
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, Tyson, this is a very good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really appre It's something I really appreciate
Speaker 1: about this since is how much texture and character it
Speaker 1: gives Springfield. I mean, yeah, maybe it's by virtue of
Speaker 1: the show having gone on for so long and it's
Speaker 1: been part of our lives for so long. It's like,
Speaker 1: this really feels familiar to me. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you sort of you have those exterior shots of as
Speaker 1: you said, Dawn, they're.
Speaker 2: Always the same or whatever for example, sort to interrupt,
Speaker 2: but like you said, familiarity there. So whenever they do
Speaker 2: the power plant, you hear the crow, little things like that,
Speaker 2: just oh yeah, it's the Simpsons. It's just little things
Speaker 2: that you just come to expect, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: you don't even notice of it. It's because but the
Speaker 2: fact that they're there, it makes you feel at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little emotional or cognitive triggers like yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean again, forgive me, Tyson, nothing's really sort of
Speaker 1: leaping at it and he's like, oh, I love that
Speaker 1: one the most. But that overall sense of familiarity, the
Speaker 1: sense of place that the that everyone involved is helping
Speaker 1: to create, nurture and develop even further.
Speaker 2: The hospital and the church always give you the chance
Speaker 2: for a sign gag as well.
Speaker 1: That's that's a really great point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so the exterior shots are great. Stephanie Hudson.
Speaker 2: If you were a new kid at Springfield Elementary, who
Speaker 2: do you think would be your first friend?
Speaker 1: I personally think Millhouse is sort of like good entry
Speaker 1: level friend.
Speaker 2: He's the one that you would grab a towards. I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think he.
Speaker 3: Would sort of gravitate towards you as well, because you
Speaker 3: wouldn't feel threatened by him, and you feel like he'd
Speaker 3: want to please you as well. That's right, So yeah,
Speaker 3: he's good sort of he's a good gateway drug to yeah,
Speaker 3: life in at Springfield Elementary.
Speaker 1: I think I think Ralph would be sort of like
Speaker 1: hard work.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I'd want to be his friend, but
Speaker 2: after a while, I go, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd want to You'd be the kind of hey,
Speaker 1: rap hate do on, buddy, I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: to you, but hey, you feel better about yourself.
Speaker 2: Do you think you'd be friends with Martin?
Speaker 1: Possibly? I hope this person is not listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't think they are. I went to school with
Speaker 1: someone who reminds me very much about prins not just
Speaker 1: in attitude but actually in looks. When I first saw
Speaker 1: Martin Brens, I'm like, that's redacted, but yeah, in terms
Speaker 1: of like they weren't necessarily sort of prissy, but they
Speaker 1: were a bit sort of verging on posh. And yeah,
Speaker 1: this person actually looks a bit like Martin Prince and
Speaker 1: I always liked this person. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know if i'd call you my mate.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a person that I was at
Speaker 1: school with from soup to nuts, from the very beginning
Speaker 1: to the very end, from first day of school to graduation,
Speaker 1: and I would say that we actually are pretty quite friendly. Now.
Speaker 1: We're certainly friends on Facebook. We had a school reunion
Speaker 1: not long ago. We caught them and had like a
Speaker 1: really good talk. There's someone that I respect and admire
Speaker 1: for various reasons, but at the same time, not necessarily
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if we're mates, but we're friendly,
Speaker 1: verging on friends, you know what I mean. That's who
Speaker 1: mart reminds me of.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you would piss on them if they're on fire,
Speaker 2: if that's an Australian saying. You might not get it.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: If not like someone I wouldn't even pis some off
Speaker 2: their on fire.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily just Australian. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think that might be worldwide. There probably are variations
Speaker 1: on the on the theme. But it's good. It's good saying,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah? Who do you think?
Speaker 2: I've had Millhouse as well. I just think he's the
Speaker 2: obvious choice. Who besides Millhouse? Is there anyone else besides Millhouse?
Speaker 2: Is there a Millhouse esque kid at the school that
Speaker 2: you think you might gravitate towards?
Speaker 1: Don't really know enough about Wendell.
Speaker 2: For some reason, Wendell came to my mind as well.
Speaker 2: I feel like he'd be if we knew more about him.
Speaker 1: Maybe it'd be interested to draw up like a pyramid
Speaker 1: or a strata or something of like power rankings in
Speaker 1: the in the Springfield Elementary playground. I feel like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be friends with Sherry and Terror. I think I've
Speaker 1: told you about you know, I went to school with
Speaker 1: basically Sherry and Terror as well, the twins who were
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, you're intimidating, you're evil. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's two of you. Yes, it's like it's like I
Speaker 1: mentioned the social networ would say, great life on the
Speaker 1: social network. Who's going to mess with me? I'm six two,
Speaker 1: you know, I rote crew and there's two of me.
Speaker 1: That's brilliant.
Speaker 2: I feel like Wendell's the kid who doesn't have many friends, right,
Speaker 2: so when you become friends with him to go to
Speaker 2: his house, his parents would just be like, please stay
Speaker 2: like that, will do whatever we can to make sure
Speaker 2: you stay. This kid's frankly, we wanted to have friends.
Speaker 2: We know he has a PlayStation, but he's yours.
Speaker 1: But you know, when Wendel comes over to your house,
Speaker 1: which is definitely going to do right, Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: play it. You can play it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I think mister missus Wendall, so
Speaker 2: Gregory your son, I want to say so obviously, Bart
Speaker 2: versus Australia is great because it doesn't rely on guest stars.
Speaker 2: But we all know if they returned to Australia in
Speaker 2: a new episode that there would be plenty of guests.
Speaker 2: Name three Australian guests that you would approve in a
Speaker 2: Simpsons down Under sequel.
Speaker 1: I have thought about this, Okay, oft the times, I'm
Speaker 1: just willing it. It's got to be.
Speaker 2: It's got to be people who I think maybe all
Speaker 2: generations would know, and not just people at the time either. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's gonna have a long standing.
Speaker 1: Appeal. I think, well, I didn't know there was going
Speaker 1: to win me over. Tell me who you Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna win you over. Now I'm
Speaker 1: playing a little fast and loose with the with the
Speaker 1: Gregory's Guard ones here, but it's going to.
Speaker 2: Be an episode in season thirty seven, so it's going
Speaker 2: to be Now.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you should have all three hens Worth.
Speaker 1: So I think you should have Chris, Luke and Liam.
Speaker 1: I'd never know there was a Luke. He's on West World,
Speaker 1: he's in a few movies. Yeah, for a while, he
Speaker 1: was kind of like the other Hem's Worth, but he
Speaker 1: he did all right. But you'd have Chris, Liam and Luke,
Speaker 1: uh and think about Yeah. I think their voices are
Speaker 1: just slightly different enough that you can tell them apart.
Speaker 1: But the joke would be that you can't really tell
Speaker 1: them apart. I Lukensworth, Yeah, is he older? I think
Speaker 1: he might be the old Yeah, he looks, and I
Speaker 1: think he was the one who actually broke out first.
Speaker 1: Might have because I think he was on Neighbors now
Speaker 1: Australia's favorite long running soap opera that is now demised unfortunately,
Speaker 1: which one neighbors what's not Neighbors is done? He came
Speaker 1: back again? No, now it's gone again? What pretty sure
Speaker 1: they pulled the pin on Neighbors again again? Do some
Speaker 1: love googling? Oh, you're right.
Speaker 2: Cancel for a second time, as Amazon backs out just
Speaker 2: two years after it.
Speaker 1: Was even having o C star Mischa Barton come on
Speaker 1: board as a guest good and save it? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: But I think Luke was on that. But then Chris
Speaker 1: was on Home and Away, which is sort of like
Speaker 1: Neighbors deadly rival, And then you had Liam as well,
Speaker 1: and he's in the Hunger Games all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: There's three guest stars, but the hems weren't there as
Speaker 2: one year unity. I think you've got to have Tony
Speaker 2: Collette in there, you know, I have it.
Speaker 1: Remember how Tracy Ullman was the voice of the dog Trainer. Yeah, dun, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the building. Tony Collette, who I think is
Speaker 1: an actor's actor, very distinct personality, but also like just
Speaker 1: a really powerful performer.
Speaker 2: Did she put on wait for Muriel's wedding or did she?
Speaker 2: Was she just bigger then? I think she put a
Speaker 2: bit on.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, yes, I think it's such a depressing movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's there. Everyone's like, oh, it's Abra and everything.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's pretty. She's got a really bleak life.
Speaker 1: That's pretty ill.
Speaker 2: Sister and the mum always put it down. No one
Speaker 2: ever has respect for it. It's on ends himself.
Speaker 1: And yeah, not good has a happy ish ending though
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right, gets away from it all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of grim.
Speaker 1: I think i'd have Tony Collett in there doing as
Speaker 1: we talked about with the good, the bad and the drug.
Speaker 1: How Anne Hathaway is on not necessarily like I Hi,
Speaker 1: it's Anne Hathaway, but giving a performance correct the habits
Speaker 1: were for the kids, I think, so yeah, collect feet, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tony Collette is there to provide a bit of you know,
Speaker 1: heft and substances like, hey, we got a legitimate Oscar
Speaker 1: nominated actor here and here. And I say this with
Speaker 1: all due respect to his distinctive voice. I think you've
Speaker 1: got to have pm Elbow in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel I know that's going to date it, that
Speaker 2: it will date it, but I also feel like it's
Speaker 2: just too much like the British one. I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it, but I understand it. Yeah, I'm surprised
Speaker 2: you didn't say Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 1: He's kind of everywhere at the moment. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: I think they would go Hugh Jackman over Collecte in
Speaker 2: my opinion, because it's just I'm thinking, if these guests,
Speaker 2: these gueststars are playing themselves. Oh okay, so it's not
Speaker 2: like we're getting someone to play a character. It's no,
Speaker 2: these guest roles up. In my opinion, the way he
Speaker 2: read it was which guests would they get on as
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so and so I don't think.
Speaker 2: Maybe Tony collect could do something with Lisa Hm. Maybe
Speaker 2: I feel like Lisa would respect Tony Collett. Maybe strong
Speaker 2: female lead.
Speaker 1: Possibly.
Speaker 2: I feel like you'd have to sneak Hugh Jackman in
Speaker 2: there somewhere. I know he's everywhere, but I feel you
Speaker 2: just have to because he's fucking he's Wolverine, that's true,
Speaker 2: and he's he's just he's you Jackman. You Jackman, the
Speaker 2: other Australian who's not an Australian musician here you can.
Speaker 1: Get in there. Well, that's the thing. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: been a while I think since Australia had a real
Speaker 1: breakout music star on the world stage.
Speaker 2: I'm sure with more study, I could more research, I
Speaker 2: could probably think of three struggles.
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman, remember Wilson?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Yeah, who's like a younger Australian star though,
Speaker 2: Oh no, the chick.
Speaker 1: Harley Queen. What's her name? Oh, Margot Robbie. Okay, Robbie,
Speaker 1: she'd have to be in there. She's Barbie, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, what she would do, I'm not too sure.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe she could help, Li said, who knows. I
Speaker 2: think Margot Robbie is only going to have it there right,
Speaker 2: a pretty high profile. I would have Margot Robbie over
Speaker 2: Tony Kalette personally, but I can I can completely appreciate Tony.
Speaker 1: Collett as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'd like the idea of the Three Hands
Speaker 2: with its brothers having something like feud or whatever, just
Speaker 2: like a caveo roll.
Speaker 1: I do like that. We'll have them as like the
Speaker 1: Australian version of Dolve Kearney and Jimbo. It could work
Speaker 1: and they all or you know, the Simpsons come to
Speaker 1: they go to Byron Bay where Hemsworth famously have this
Speaker 1: huge compound and like Bart wants to surf or something
Speaker 1: and it's like no locals only like that. All right.
Speaker 2: Next question here comes from Mikey Jarremenko. What a name,
Speaker 2: Mikey Jarremenko, what is your favorite side show Bob scheme?
Speaker 1: I was like a a false marriage kind of deal. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the yeah, what's it called a black widower? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm kind of partial to that because he went,
Speaker 2: he went, He committed to that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he committed a bit. So, which is the art
Speaker 1: of any good good scam or good connor good scheme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got to go all in one. Yeah, so Black
Speaker 1: Widow was a good one. I was always go back
Speaker 1: to the original him trying to it just made the
Speaker 1: most sense. It wasn't he wasn't like a wacky super
Speaker 1: villain trying to kill Bart whatever. Granted, this episode was
Speaker 1: the one that set off his hatred for Bart was
Speaker 1: when he framed Krusty for the robbery so that he
Speaker 1: could get Crusty show. That's oh yeah, yeah what set
Speaker 1: off side show Bob because he.
Speaker 2: Was Crusty's psychic, correct, Yeah, and he got he hated
Speaker 2: the fact that he was a psychic and he wanted
Speaker 2: to have the show to himself.
Speaker 1: Then he got his own show choices. It's good character
Speaker 1: stuff as well, and of course great casting and Kelsey
Speaker 1: Grammer he choose to fill at the end. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Directed by Brad Bird that episode, Oh no.
Speaker 1: Wonder it's good, my man, Brad. I love that guy.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's great across the board because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kelsey Gramer is such good casting that because he always
Speaker 1: plays that kind of like I'm a bit better than this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, even though he's like probably not have it.
Speaker 2: He's smarter, but is he better in the role?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He has that that potential that.
Speaker 1: Comes across of like yeah, so degraded that I have
Speaker 1: to do this, but you know I must Daddy likes money.
Speaker 1: He does like money. Indeed, Yeah, that's a really good one.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're bringing me around to your way. I
Speaker 1: think a good question by Mikey.
Speaker 2: It was indeed, Yeah, we didn't mind the Italian Bobby
Speaker 2: that did be where he got out he got away.
Speaker 2: He had his own family and bar screwed it up
Speaker 2: on him.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, that Italian lifestyle. Yeah, not a way
Speaker 1: to go.
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Speaker 2: you think Lisa would have benefited from having her own
Speaker 2: best friend like Millhouse? It seems she likes to be
Speaker 2: the lone wolf with her campaigns, but still I always
Speaker 2: felt sorry for her when I was a kid, since
Speaker 2: she never seemed to be visited by any of her friends.
Speaker 1: Much at all. Yeah, I was thinking about this and
Speaker 1: how it would change your character. I think I think
Speaker 1: it would.
Speaker 2: You know, she's always it's always it's Lisa against the world,
Speaker 2: and it's hard to do it if you've got a buddy, yeah.
Speaker 1: Who's sort of backing up. But then yeah, there'll be
Speaker 1: episodes where you know, Lisa will be having like a
Speaker 1: slumber party or whatever. Yeah, and that's why they say
Speaker 1: much at all. She doesn't seem to be entirely friendless,
Speaker 1: but yeah, having a second manana or a straight man
Speaker 1: like Bart has Millhouse, Yeah, that's a whole different dynamic
Speaker 1: and kind of interesting and opens things up to certain storylines.
Speaker 2: And Saturday Morning at the Simpsons, there's always Bart's going
Speaker 2: to see what Millhouse is doing.
Speaker 1: Lisa's at home doing something.
Speaker 2: By its doing something, because when she has a slumber
Speaker 2: party and stuff like that. I do see Lisa as
Speaker 2: that kid at school who the kids picked on when
Speaker 2: it came to birthday parties, like, oh, we'll come to
Speaker 2: your birthday party. Yeah, yeah, we'll enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're not being picked on twenty four seven.
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh God, another day in the misery minds.
Speaker 2: They locked Lisa for, you know, when she wants to
Speaker 2: be vegetarian.
Speaker 1: I always remember that, but just like it's not you're
Speaker 1: picked on for who you are. More as like something.
Speaker 2: It's kind of more like what you do. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: not just bullying her all the time.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's like, ah, you've done something that we
Speaker 1: find your appearance is carmical to me, and they pick
Speaker 1: on that as opposed to you only since and we
Speaker 1: hate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and now it's to guess what today is
Speaker 2: bullying day challenged. It would change the dynamic of her character.
Speaker 2: If she had a best friend, I think, I think
Speaker 2: so like a right hand man, right hand woman.
Speaker 1: But I think the way Lisa has been designed and
Speaker 1: probably been designed from the start, is that she's very
Speaker 1: self possessed. She doesn't need anybody, and she yeah, she
Speaker 1: doesn't need anybody, and you know, her friends are like
Speaker 1: her causes and that she picks up. I don't think
Speaker 1: she wants friends. I think she likes the idea of
Speaker 1: it all being about her because she we've seen her.
Speaker 1: She likes it being about Lisa, Yeah, whereas Bart is
Speaker 1: more like, yeah, I'm just going with the flow man,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's good to have someone to sort
Speaker 1: of like back me up all that I can sort
Speaker 1: of push around a little bit. But I don't think
Speaker 1: Lisa would kind of yeah, she wouldn't have the kind
Speaker 1: of friendship dynamic that say Barton Millhouse had, no because.
Speaker 2: That's the show evolved. Bar It wasn't the cool kid
Speaker 2: anymore at school. So I feel like bart keeps Millhouse,
Speaker 2: doesn't keep Millhouse around, but Millhouse balances him out because
Speaker 2: it makes him feel cool feels because Millhouse is such
Speaker 2: a dud, but he still likes House. Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: As we just touched on in Goodness Out and the Drug,
Speaker 2: that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I keep wanting to say the good the band, and
Speaker 1: the drug let very well done. Makers of the episode.
Speaker 2: Matt Kaye, if Mo were to ever leave Springfield, who
Speaker 2: do you think could replace him as the bartender? That's
Speaker 2: a good question. You could replace Moe as the bartender
Speaker 2: is someone that you wouldn't expect. I think it would
Speaker 2: be better. Let's just not go on with the barf
Speaker 2: lives or anything. It's someone you wouldn't expect Skinner. Skinner
Speaker 2: retires as principle and become.
Speaker 1: Or has to side hustle because teachers don't get paidhit
Speaker 1: in him. Yeah that's true, but I just yeah, how
Speaker 1: about how about Lindsay Nagel taking over Mo's and trying
Speaker 1: to rebrand it or try to gentrify it.
Speaker 2: That could work for an episode. Will that be working
Speaker 2: long term?
Speaker 1: Though? It could work for that could be a good
Speaker 1: episode story. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: Mo leaves town or he says I'm out of the
Speaker 2: business and Lindsay Nagel takes over Ruth Powers you know that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she seems rough around the edge. She could
Speaker 2: do it, sure, Yeah, Sean, it's going to be someone
Speaker 2: who who can because the Moe doesn't really listen to advice.
Speaker 2: He's just sort of this grumpy bartender.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Do you think you'd have to go somewhere different, so
Speaker 2: someone who's not just going to be replacing Mo, but
Speaker 2: giving it a different vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, it's really tough to take an existing character
Speaker 1: who has their own specific role in the ecosystem of
Speaker 1: Springfield and turn them to something else. What you said
Speaker 1: before about when I suggested Lindsay good for an episode.
Speaker 1: Likewise a comic book guy good for an episode. He
Speaker 1: turns it into Miss Bartronic or something like that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't see him doing that full time, and I
Speaker 1: think it would just upset the way things are in
Speaker 1: the show. I think you'd probably have to introduce a
Speaker 1: whole new bartender, but that's got its own degree of definitely,
Speaker 1: hasn't it. Yeah, it'd be. Here's the thing, here's the
Speaker 1: joy of The Simpsons being an animated series. Now, admittedly
Speaker 1: you're going to have to.
Speaker 2: Is it a way to bring back a Pooh because
Speaker 2: who's been written off the show?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: They've just written off the show, right? Because that I
Speaker 2: want to have him work in the quickie mark and
Speaker 2: the voice and whatnot. I think you could bring back
Speaker 2: a Poo as the bartender because then he's going to
Speaker 2: be there all the time.
Speaker 1: True. But the thing about I think every location on
Speaker 1: The Simpsons has its specific purpose. It does. And the bar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bar is very much life is suppressing. We've come
Speaker 1: here to get away from it. I think if you
Speaker 1: have someone who is vaguely positive or vaguely motivated or
Speaker 1: something like that behind the bar, going hey, guards is
Speaker 1: not the it was like the Cheers bar, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the same. Yeah, yeah, I think the I think
Speaker 1: the bar has to I think Mo's has to remain
Speaker 1: Moe's even if was not behind the bar. It has
Speaker 1: to be kind of like, oh, well, you know, work
Speaker 1: sucks I know quick, we've been copyright struck.
Speaker 2: Forster Jackson. This isn't a question, but I just wanted
Speaker 2: to see him Forester Forest Jackson, far as the Jackson.
Speaker 2: Just about to say that, I was just about to
Speaker 2: say exactly like.
Speaker 1: That, far As the Jackson.
Speaker 2: This isn't a question, but I just wanted to sing
Speaker 2: the praises of you guys for how much you how
Speaker 2: much love you give the character of Martin.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel he's.
Speaker 2: Underrated in terms of fan favoritism since literally literally every
Speaker 2: time Martin's on screen, it's always hilarious. Are there any
Speaker 2: other secondary characters you feel deserve more widespread love for us?
Speaker 1: That's a great question, and honestly, yeah, we given we
Speaker 1: be just talking about Martin a whole lot. Hopefully you're
Speaker 1: enjoying this episode of The Mailback. Ah, this is great,
Speaker 1: but oh but tough, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Side characters? I feel we're also also in an era
Speaker 2: here where side characters that don't get much love now
Speaker 2: get a lot of love because it's cool to like them. Sure,
Speaker 2: it's why Bob Effect got his own TV shown and
Speaker 2: now we don't love that, And we've discussed that in
Speaker 2: the Simpsons. When we know more about these one note characters,
Speaker 2: it ruins.
Speaker 1: The aura of them. I use the metaphor flavor balance
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and all the spices. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: got to be careful with what you sprinkle under the show.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Simpson family is the is the base
Speaker 1: of it. And yeah, if you have too much or
Speaker 1: too much Martin, too much, anyone's like, oh, what do
Speaker 1: we say before about getting sick of things when you
Speaker 1: get overexposed to them. So, yeah, you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: how you deploy certain characters.
Speaker 2: I think I think because of you, I have more
Speaker 2: love for the wise Guy. I think you've given the
Speaker 2: wise Guy extra love. He was always that guy, was
Speaker 2: just there. But I think you've maybe appreciate the character
Speaker 2: more so. I think I think the wise Guy would
Speaker 2: be good to answer that question, yeah, because you don't
Speaker 2: really hear people saying how great's the wise Guy character?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then when you he rocks up and he's
Speaker 1: got a long he's there all the time. Yeah, anyway's
Speaker 1: using that voice, he's great.
Speaker 2: The writers must love him because you can put him
Speaker 2: in anyway.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, plug and play, which is fantastic Forrest
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're not really answering that all there. Well,
Speaker 1: and maybe you're not answering the way you want it,
Speaker 1: because when you say deserve more widespread love, we're not.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're necessarily saying put them in every episode,
Speaker 1: but it's like, hey, you know who's good is such
Speaker 1: and such?
Speaker 2: When you hear favorite characters, favorite side characters is always
Speaker 2: like krusty pooh Mo, that kind of thing, Lenny, you
Speaker 2: don't really hear the Martin Prince. When we say not disparaging,
Speaker 2: we say the B team.
Speaker 1: But yeah, supporting characters, and I think you're thinking of
Speaker 1: someone characters who are a little more sort of cameo.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we can't answer it, but we hope We've
Speaker 1: had a pretty stimulating discussion about the nature of these
Speaker 1: things here.
Speaker 2: I've scrolled down a bit. Shara Luise is down to bottom.
Speaker 2: Did you ever read the Simpsons or Futurama comic books?
Speaker 2: My dad used to buy them for me as a kid.
Speaker 2: I never did, but did you I certainly did now.
Speaker 2: I busted them out for the first time two days ago,
Speaker 2: just round this question came through. I just read to
Speaker 2: the kids, kids like, what can we read and I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, a kid, I'm gonna read you your first
Speaker 2: comic book. And I've can see you've got all the
Speaker 2: Spider Simpsons comics are They're all down at bottom there,
Speaker 2: who I've got most of them, right, And I'm reading
Speaker 2: this and I'm going, I just don't think Elliott like
Speaker 2: he's six years old. These comics, the Simpsons ones, the
Speaker 2: jokes go over his head. I think, if you're watching
Speaker 2: a show and it's just sort of being spoken to
Speaker 2: you and the things are moving around.
Speaker 1: Plus different line delivery, mine delivery, me just.
Speaker 2: Reading out the jokes, it was showing over his head.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I got like two pages and
Speaker 2: I went, let's get something, alse mate. I don't think
Speaker 2: comic books are quite there for you, or these ones anyway.
Speaker 2: I personally love the Simpsons comic books.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: But I look back now, I think I when I
Speaker 2: think of my childhood, right, I'll watch this when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, I just a kid. Yeah, but you
Speaker 2: were like ten or twelve, you know, Elliot's still six. Sure,
Speaker 2: I think I just equate him to being my age.
Speaker 2: I look like nineteenninety eight, I was watching the Simpson
Speaker 2: ninety eight. Yeah, you were ten, Brinon. He's six.
Speaker 1: He doesn't quite get these. There's a big difference.
Speaker 2: There is a big difference. Yeah, so I think in
Speaker 2: a couple of years he'll really like that. But he's
Speaker 2: still only six, he's nearly seven. Potential frauds call him.
Speaker 2: Shall I answer it?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Let's go hello?
Speaker 2: Block?
Speaker 1: Was that an electronic nois?
Speaker 2: I do love that aspect now where they can tell
Speaker 2: you that it's fraud from the get go and you're
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I'm not going to answer that block?
Speaker 1: Were you? The one who told me was like, you
Speaker 1: don't answer for like five seconds.
Speaker 2: I just said hello for the sake of this. But
Speaker 2: if it's every one of those don't speak for five seconds,
Speaker 2: they can't speak until you do. Most people answer the
Speaker 2: phone saying hello, yeah, and it's like, oh, that's.
Speaker 1: My cue to speak. That's the thing. If I don't
Speaker 1: recognize the number, then I'll just answer and dead air,
Speaker 1: dead air, dead air and hang up and we're like.
Speaker 2: The hack works. That's right, beat the system a matrix
Speaker 2: I am. I love the Simpsons comic books and now
Speaker 2: paled Dylan Haggart.
Speaker 1: He sent me some.
Speaker 2: Future on the comic books, once as well, So I
Speaker 2: appreciate that, Dylan think. But one of my favorite memories
Speaker 2: as kid was going to go into my great nand's
Speaker 2: house on a Wednesday and we'd walk up to the
Speaker 2: news agency because I don't even go there on a
Speaker 2: school holiday. So the Wednesday we go to great Lands,
Speaker 2: walk up the road to the Beraneva Road news agency,
Speaker 2: get myself a Simpsons comic book and a couple of
Speaker 2: packs of footy cards.
Speaker 1: Good times. Wow, sound great? That does sound great? Indeed?
Speaker 2: All right, another question here, Adam Young. When it was
Speaker 2: first created, the Symptoms was an edgy antidote to the
Speaker 2: established family sitcom genre. In the decades since, the show
Speaker 2: has outlived the genre it was parroting, and as so
Speaker 2: and so has changed over time. Do you think there's
Speaker 2: a show on TV now that is the same spirit,
Speaker 2: something that takes a jab at the modern sitcom formula.
Speaker 2: The only one that springs to mind for me is
Speaker 2: What We Do in the Shadows that takes the established
Speaker 2: modern style of a naturalistic fly in the world documentary
Speaker 2: but pushes it to the absurd by being about vampires.
Speaker 1: Never seen that show? Have you seen it? I've seen
Speaker 1: the movie and a lot of people who taste I
Speaker 1: respect are like, yeah, what we do in the Shadow
Speaker 1: is pretty good. I've yet to catch it, but the
Speaker 1: movie is actually pretty good.
Speaker 2: I can honestly say I don't watch enough modern TV
Speaker 2: to be able to answer this question.
Speaker 1: There is that in a lot of ways. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: the answer that I'm going to give might seem pretty dated,
Speaker 1: even though show was still going. It has been over
Speaker 1: quite some time. But I tend to think of like,
Speaker 1: it's always something in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: That's what came to my mind. As one We've had
Speaker 2: Dost quest for us to do a podcast on that show.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's like Seifeld. Okay, I've never seen a single episode.
Speaker 2: I've only seen bits and Peace Goes Forever and I've
Speaker 2: seen a very long time. I never seen an episode
Speaker 2: of it, and I think it was initially designed, as
Speaker 2: anim was pointing out here, like the Simpsons were designeders like, Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's like Ozzie and Harry or leave it to Be,
Speaker 1: but those traditional family sitcoms where it's like where you're
Speaker 1: you gonna be, but I'm gonna go PENI Fits or
Speaker 1: something like that, it's always sunny, was sort of like
Speaker 1: the anti friends. Okay, I think I could be entirely
Speaker 1: mistaken here. So when did it start two thousand and
Speaker 1: six ish or two thousand and NINETI ish early two thousands,
Speaker 1: early to mid two thousands, maybe mean later, so always sunny.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: Wow, it was a long time ago and it's still
Speaker 2: going seventeen seasons. Yeah, crazy didn't go away for a
Speaker 2: while and then came.
Speaker 1: Back or something. That's a good question.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure because that's two thousand and five, seventeen
Speaker 2: years utter between twenty two, so there must have been
Speaker 2: a break, maybe during COVID or something quite possible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but always Sonny. Yeah, I've had nothing of good things
Speaker 2: that My favorite meme gift is is Daddy to Be Gone?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's very easily memorable as well. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of it's got the drawing on the board
Speaker 1: Chali dated with this sort of wall of weird or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, anytime conspiracy theories come up, like well
Speaker 1: just use Charlie Day. So yeah, I get the feeling
Speaker 1: that you're always on. It does a bit of twisting
Speaker 1: version to the point where and that's what it was
Speaker 1: initially designed. It's like, Oh, you're hanging out with your
Speaker 1: favorite friends and they've always got each other's back, and
Speaker 1: they'll always sort of they'll mess up, but they're generally
Speaker 1: doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: So is it is it a sitcom in the traditional
Speaker 2: sense or is it more like a modern family style.
Speaker 1: I think it's more. I think it sort of is
Speaker 1: the camera at all. No, I don't think there's sports
Speaker 1: wall breaking, but I think it's to the best of
Speaker 1: my understanding. But it's also shot in it's kind of
Speaker 1: rough and ready way, because I think they've made the
Speaker 1: pilot on like a fairly average kind of camcorder, okay,
Speaker 1: and just sort of relied on their comic chemistry, their
Speaker 1: comic chemistry as a group, their comic talents as individuals,
Speaker 1: and their willingness to yeah, just be highly inappropriate but
Speaker 1: funny with it and being sort of fearless in that regard.
Speaker 1: Friends is great, Got no problem with it. But it's
Speaker 1: also fairly stock standard in terms of like, here's a
Speaker 1: bunch of good looking people, they're well dressed, one of
Speaker 1: them occasionally have a crush on another or a long
Speaker 1: yeah whatever, Whereas this is kind of like what can
Speaker 1: we do the highly it's a bit South Parking in
Speaker 1: that regard. Yeah, the anti establishment. So yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I would say.
Speaker 2: Okay, especially when it launched, it sound like it was
Speaker 2: the show that certainly, Yeah, I was a goot to say.
Speaker 2: And now it's been around long enough that it becomes
Speaker 2: much like South park Is is like, oh, well they've
Speaker 2: been doing this for this long, Well comes back because
Speaker 2: that's what they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of thing. Reece Roberts.
Speaker 2: Do you think there will ever be a King of
Speaker 2: the Hill movie or more crossovers with it being on
Speaker 2: Disney Plus, there'll be some sort of crossover think to
Speaker 2: sort of like a Simpsons short with King of the Hill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the thing. King of the Hill is
Speaker 1: so very much its own thing. It's on Hulu, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got I'm sure talented people in all these Riders
Speaker 1: rooms and all these all these production stuff were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can find a way to merge these two together,
Speaker 1: you know, in an interesting synergistic way that will improve
Speaker 1: both shows or what's the word. I'm looking to promote
Speaker 1: both shows well without sunding too cheesy, But King of
Speaker 1: the Hill has such its own voice and its own
Speaker 1: style so different is it. Yeah, that to mash it
Speaker 1: up with the with the Simpsons or something like that.
Speaker 2: It was like, we didn't have that one crossover in
Speaker 2: Bart's Star where Bart plays football and they play the
Speaker 2: they play Aarlen's team and they beat them and it
Speaker 2: cust to hanging. So we drove two thousand miles for
Speaker 2: this or something like that.
Speaker 1: That works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little bit, just a throwaway gag like that,
Speaker 2: but we're going to alm baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but having say Homer inter with Hank.
Speaker 2: Hill let us look so different as well. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 2: just be why are you yellow?
Speaker 1: We all enjoy a lovely PEB and Jay sandwich peanut
Speaker 1: butter and jam. This would be a PB and S
Speaker 1: sandwich peanut butter and sardines, which could work.
Speaker 2: Who knows that might be a taste, Ryan King, he's
Speaker 2: an old school question for Dando. I've literally been wondering
Speaker 2: this for years. What was the story of Mitch not
Speaker 2: knowing who trust McNeil is. I've listened to all of
Speaker 2: season one of the podcasts and haven't been able to
Speaker 2: find any reference of it happening. All I can find
Speaker 2: is you guys talking about that time Misch didn't know
Speaker 2: who she was I'm pretty sure we were doing the
Speaker 2: show and I just kept saying, trust mc neil, trust
Speaker 2: me neil, and then Mitch just goes, you need to
Speaker 2: and I think he just sort of said to me
Speaker 2: at the time, you need to explain to you to
Speaker 2: the listeners who trustmcneil is, because I won't get it.
Speaker 2: And I remember I looked and I went, wait, you
Speaker 2: don't know who trust mecniel.
Speaker 1: Is, and he went no.
Speaker 2: I was like, she fucking the voice actor. And I
Speaker 2: think we cut it out because Mitch was like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: so we just cut it out and then maybe we
Speaker 2: made reference to it, but the actual when he said
Speaker 2: who is trust McNeil was removed from all existence.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, forgive someone for not knowing voice actor names
Speaker 2: because she's not there's not on the top of the poster.
Speaker 1: No, And I think when you I say this, with
Speaker 1: all due respect to trest McNeil, When I think of
Speaker 1: trust McNeil, I think The Simpsons. I don't think of
Speaker 1: her as like it's trust McNeil. I think of trust McNeil,
Speaker 1: that that actor on The Simpsons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, she's voice so she's one of
Speaker 2: the worst. She's she is the most iconic female voice
Speaker 2: actor of all.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, a terrific player in that regard.
Speaker 2: So but if I went up to I said this
Speaker 2: to Nicola, voice actors are incredible. But if you walked
Speaker 2: up to anyone in the street and said who is
Speaker 2: Tess McNeil, I reckon nine out of ten wouldn't have them.
Speaker 2: No idea you walked up and say who is Jim Cummings.
Speaker 2: I used to say when I was doing Jim Cummings,
Speaker 2: I do do the podcast at Jim Cummings, They go,
Speaker 2: who is the voice of Windy the pooh? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What did the pooh? They know the characters, sure, they
Speaker 1: don't know the people behind them, that's correct. So yeah,
Speaker 1: even someone like Marshall Wallace who has a long and
Speaker 1: had a long story career. Here, No, it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: ring a bell voice, mister k oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, she does that.
Speaker 1: So that's but that's that's the voice actors a lot
Speaker 1: in life. Most it's Billy West.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy West is like a living legend, you know,
Speaker 2: but he's run to still be you know, he's all
Speaker 2: these but oh he does those characters.
Speaker 1: Okay, you could say, who's Phil Lamar? Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: could maybe even really have a lot of voice Mark,
Speaker 1: but he's also you got shot in the face by
Speaker 1: John t. Voll Pop. Oh, okay, gotcha. Yeah, it's an
Speaker 1: interesting conundrum for a voice I mean, a good voice
Speaker 1: actor is going to work a lot and probably gonna
Speaker 1: work forever. Yea, yeah, but I forgive but give me
Speaker 1: not knowing who she was.
Speaker 2: But but that's the reason I think we removed it
Speaker 2: from it.
Speaker 1: It's a feeling you're doing like a Simpsons podcast. Though
Speaker 1: you have to be watching a few episodes of the Simpsons,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you would see the name Trest mc neil
Speaker 1: popping up all the t're sticking around for the credits.
Speaker 2: You should do at a tea. Do you find that,
Speaker 2: as a parent, when letting your little ones watch The Simpsons,
Speaker 2: that you tend to skip the Itch Scratchy cartoons. I've
Speaker 2: actually mentioned this. Obviously I watched them as a kid,
Speaker 2: but I look at them now and I just think, wow,
Speaker 2: this is really violent. Always skip ahead from my kids.
Speaker 2: I'm exactly the same. I put the sims for Holly
Speaker 2: and Elliott and if she has Scratchy, come on, and
Speaker 2: I go I don't think I'm happy for them to
Speaker 2: be watching this.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's pretty like the Itchy and Scratchy.
Speaker 2: Cartoons are really violent, and I understand that in a cartoon, right,
Speaker 2: that's the joke. I understand, But I don't think my
Speaker 2: four year old needs to be watching that kind of violence.
Speaker 2: And that's what the episode my age versus She Scratchy
Speaker 2: is all about. Sure, right, it's just it's just animated
Speaker 2: TV violence. Maybe it's just the world we live in now.
Speaker 2: But I go, I think I was put up Babies
Speaker 2: back on for you, Holly. I don't think you quite
Speaker 2: are ready for the Itchy and Scratchy cartoons yet. Okay,
Speaker 2: look the I put the Simpsons movie on and it
Speaker 2: starts with Itchy and Scratchy cartoon. And Holly's first thing
Speaker 2: was why is that cat cup heading the She she
Speaker 2: like shell She dwelled on it for a while, but
Speaker 2: why was he doing that? So I was just just
Speaker 2: for the it's just a joke for the movie, but
Speaker 2: why And that's all.
Speaker 1: She could just fixate it on it. No, Itching scratch
Speaker 1: is a pretty grown up gag. Yeah, and the nature
Speaker 1: of its being so yeah, gratuitously, disgustingly violent. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a pretty grown up gag. And but if you've got
Speaker 1: younger kids who are watching the Simpsons, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: a middle maybe our nervings have burned out. Might not
Speaker 1: from you know, say, watching the original Itching Scratchy, Tom
Speaker 1: and Jerry, where they're always you know, combative and or
Speaker 1: like the road Run of the Road. You know, the
Speaker 1: thing is always getting blown up.
Speaker 2: But those cartoons don't have blood, which Scratchy has the blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, and that's and that's the gag with
Speaker 1: eaching scratches, like, well, what would this really be? Like,
Speaker 1: you know if they had these two cute animal buddies,
Speaker 1: buddies who were you know, constantly getting into scraps. Oh
Speaker 1: what if you took it to these strings? What if
Speaker 1: you took it to the next level? What if you
Speaker 1: took it to a level that I.
Speaker 2: Know there's going to be people out there saying, oh,
Speaker 2: your kids are soft, And I'm like, I hear what
Speaker 2: you're saying, Right, kids are meant to be soft.
Speaker 1: With yes, let them let them stay soft for a
Speaker 1: little while. They don't necessarily have been working down the mines.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So I just I
Speaker 2: don't know, I hear. I understand when people say that
Speaker 2: she just Crutchry cartoons are two violent because I felt
Speaker 2: it as well. I still left it on, but I
Speaker 2: went maybe they entered my mind. Maybe I shouldn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Possibly as a side note, and ty Dano printed out
Speaker 1: these questions sent them to me in a word document,
Speaker 1: and I read this as do I tend to skip
Speaker 1: the IBS cartoons? I'm like, I would skip a cartoon
Speaker 1: that was all. I don't want to watch that. So
Speaker 1: this one here from Dan pop o'matic. Given the recent
Speaker 1: passing of the genius that is Alf Clausen, what is
Speaker 1: your favorite of his music cues from The Simpsons? Probably
Speaker 1: an impossible question, Sorry, yeah, probably word You're right, Dan popomatic.
Speaker 2: I, there's the one. It's the transitions. So for me,
Speaker 2: it's like the I'm not I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: I'll play it here. It's just one of those bits
Speaker 2: of music that's sort of it's uplifting, it makes it
Speaker 2: feel good. It's usually when something successful happens, like someone
Speaker 2: we something, it's like, yeah, achieved your goal.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. It's a really tough question then, because you
Speaker 1: mentioned the genius that is our course and that's great
Speaker 1: because I mean what he's doing is providing just underlying texture.
Speaker 1: Good music like this. It's not meant to be sort
Speaker 1: of like standing out at you. It's not meant to
Speaker 1: leap out it. You go, wow, what a great music cue.
Speaker 1: But once you notice the music's there, it's all you hear.
Speaker 2: Is especially the shows that we watch like SVU and
Speaker 2: we're watching ear at the moment, I'm like, oh, Nikola
Speaker 2: even said the other day, she goes, oh, the music
Speaker 2: started it serious business talking this like so and so
Speaker 2: with something broken up, get the people, don't do the
Speaker 2: music stuff.
Speaker 1: So as you said, I mean, given the reason passing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in the rest in Peace Olf, that's when
Speaker 1: you sort of take stock and you know, wow, this
Speaker 1: guy did a lot of good stuff, and you really
Speaker 1: start to revisit things, or you really start to if
Speaker 1: you're watching them. Soode you listen and you go, oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: that's intrinsic to yeah, the success of this scene or
Speaker 1: you know, my enjoyment of this episode. So yes, thank
Speaker 1: you for the impossible question, Dan pop upmatic. But we're
Speaker 1: glad we were First of all, we're glad that you
Speaker 1: paid triby to have clause and because yeah, that guy's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like the cue as a que I'll
Speaker 2: play this one here. So basically what that does is
Speaker 2: it incorporates the Simpsons theme, but in a transitional way.
Speaker 2: So that's what he done so well, was he would
Speaker 2: get the theme song but tweak it, put a clock
Speaker 2: in it, and tweak it where you still knew you
Speaker 2: were watching the Simpsons, but it wasn't the Simpsons theme,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 1: Pretty tough because of Danny Alpin's theme, as we always say,
Speaker 1: is iconic, but it's also kind of.
Speaker 2: It's very in your face, it's very overpowering. As I said,
Speaker 2: we're off to the circus. Well, it's Thanny Alpha overall,
Speaker 2: isn't it actually?
Speaker 1: So to take that and tone it down a little,
Speaker 1: turn it into fabric and weave it all throughout the show, yeah,
Speaker 1: is a big ask, and it's something that they all
Speaker 1: pulled off really really well.
Speaker 2: Yes. All right, let's do one more question here and
Speaker 2: we'll wrap up this month's mail bag Trainiac Maniac. Are
Speaker 2: there any jokes in the Simpsons that you never really
Speaker 2: got or don't understand why people find them so hilarious?
Speaker 2: It can be from now or when you were a kid. Well,
Speaker 2: there was still a jokes I didn't get when I
Speaker 2: was a kid. I understand now was in adult and
Speaker 2: I love them ones that I never quite I've always said,
Speaker 2: I don't quite get the love that Everything's coming up
Speaker 2: Millhouse gets. I think it's just something that's fun to say. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: as opposed to being a really funny gag. Everyone goes
Speaker 2: Everything's coming up millhous you know the Simpsons too, But
Speaker 2: I don't see it as a genuinely funny gag.
Speaker 1: You don't like the Rakes, do you. I'm not a
Speaker 1: huge fan of the Rakes. Yeah, I mean I again,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things everyone's got this I think
Speaker 1: where it's like that is a joke. It's a quote
Speaker 1: a wolf from what is it? Star Trek Next Genera
Speaker 1: is like that is a joke. It is not funny,
Speaker 1: but I recognize it as a joke. Yeah, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: recognize that. The cap for your thing is like, oh
Speaker 1: he stepping around, Oh he keeps stepping on rakes. Oh
Speaker 1: it's gone from funny to not funny. It's been going
Speaker 1: so long it's back to a funny bugger. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's just something that doesn't really hit my funny
Speaker 1: mote all that much. But the thing I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this is, I mean, because here's the thing about
Speaker 1: my experience with The Simpsons. I mean, I was clearly
Speaker 1: a lot older than you when I started watching it,
Speaker 1: and I get the field of people who were creating
Speaker 1: it were of course older than me, but we had
Speaker 1: the same sort of frames of reference, and even if
Speaker 1: I didn't get all the gags, I would sort of
Speaker 1: understand where their heads were at. The thing that leaps
Speaker 1: to mind, I think, is it Millhouse who says this?
Speaker 1: But it's like, whoa a Bob mackey? I knew the
Speaker 1: name Bob mcke because I think you'd like, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was a Landa Tayman JUNKI and I think, oh, he
Speaker 1: designed that dress for Share that she woke to the
Speaker 1: Oscars that everyone thought, wow, how outrageous. Yeah, his name
Speaker 1: was sort of in the zegus. But but a kid like,
Speaker 1: is it is it Milhouse who says it? Or is
Speaker 1: it maybe even Bart?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's Millhouse. Yeah, looking at a bush jacket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not really answering training and training in
Speaker 1: Maniac's question, because it was a joke that I got,
Speaker 1: but I can understand that it's like that's a little
Speaker 1: bit unusual or out there or from left field, and
Speaker 1: it is a joke that I got. So I'm not
Speaker 1: really answer your question. Training sorry about that, but I
Speaker 1: always just thought, yeah, it's just a joke that I
Speaker 1: thought was yeah, really really funny. But also it's hard
Speaker 1: to explain why. I mean, of course you can explain why.
Speaker 1: You can break down why it works. Oh, it's very
Speaker 1: unusual for this child to be saying that's all. It's
Speaker 1: unusual about to be wearing a Bob Mackie. It's unusually wow,
Speaker 1: Bob Maggie, like he's the hot name in the playground.
Speaker 2: There's jokes on the Simpsons that I don't understand why
Speaker 2: I find them so funny, but I always quote them,
Speaker 2: like Vira said that, Yeah, that tickles me to no end.
Speaker 2: I don't really know why it's so funny.
Speaker 1: How many times have we said on the show line
Speaker 1: delivery means a lot or a funny voice means a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but yeah, as you said, look, why do
Speaker 1: I always love it? Maybe looked at you on its face,
Speaker 1: not even a joke, no, but ye, deliver, Maybe looked
Speaker 1: at you for the virus that Robert, what a delivery?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so yeah oftentimes, Yeah, it's just the way
Speaker 1: your brain is wired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well that'll do for our mail bag
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