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<v Speaker 1>Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 1>creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you

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<v Speaker 1>accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and your talents to market, then you embrace a life

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<v Speaker 1>of not only unlimited possibilities, but also the unknown. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an elixir of fear and bravery that only someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs

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<v Speaker 1>deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know the stories, the whys, and the hows

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation

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<v Speaker 1>Z to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be blown away. Now Here is your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Drummond.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, Welcome, Welcome so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, Joe, because common for taking incredible You are

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<v Speaker 3>the best. Even though I have a podcast host with

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<v Speaker 3>me today and people playing media with me, but you

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<v Speaker 3>are my best podcast audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what I say that, you are my best media

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<v Speaker 2>friends and you rock and we are going to blow

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<v Speaker 2>this show up today, because what happens when you get

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of creatives together. What happens is you get

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<v Speaker 2>so many ideas that you plan your schedule for the

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<v Speaker 2>next three years. I mean, get a room of creatives

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<v Speaker 2>in a field, you start making TV shows, you start collaborating,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you start doing art shows all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world because anything is possible when you talk to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's creative, because creative people find creative ways, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you put in that entrepreneurship that lentrepreneurship. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know what an entrepreneur is, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>entrepreneur that can't say no. Mostly they can't say no

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<v Speaker 2>to themselves. We get these ideas going seriously, you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what it's like. That's why it's super cool when

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<v Speaker 2>you go to like art shows or you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the theater, you're supporting someone that's shooting a movie or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and you and there's like if there's the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people hanging out, and then there's this hover of enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like ether, right, and there's this whole creative

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<v Speaker 2>bubble that's going around. So we're gonna have a blast

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<v Speaker 2>on this show today, So let me introduce to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and so listen, audience, I know some of you are

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<v Speaker 2>listening and some of you are watching. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to kind of introduce to who you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>listening to today, and I'm gonna get them just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of do their hand up so that if someone is watching,

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<v Speaker 2>they know they can put the voice to the hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And for those of you that are listening, just listen,

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<v Speaker 2>watch the show later. We got you. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>creative today. So miss Carol, Carol, can you just give

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<v Speaker 2>us a wave today? Just let us know who you are,

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<v Speaker 2>Carol Matresi all the way from Texas. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>have Ronnie. Now Ronnie is interesting. I've never pronounced your name,

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<v Speaker 2>your last name, and let's hope I do it correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Ronnie Armas? All right? So just give a

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<v Speaker 2>little wave thumbs up. That's you. Awesome. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>have seen both Carol and Ocean before in the show

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<v Speaker 2>The Ocean. Just give us a wave. Awesome. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>We know who we're talking to. Could you imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>there was twenty or thirty of us on here, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like we'd be eating lunch at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be so many cool things going on. But look

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<v Speaker 2>at let's get into it, because this is called mission accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that what we talk about is a

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<v Speaker 2>little James Bondish. It's like, it's the risk and the

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<v Speaker 2>danger and the joy and the surprise and the cool

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<v Speaker 2>things that happen by taking this venture, because this venture.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the hardest thing is deciding to be an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 2>until you're actually an entrepreneur and you realize that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some of the hardest things is staying an entrepreneur. Yea,

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<v Speaker 2>accept the mission, but then you got to stay on

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<v Speaker 2>that mission and where does that mission go? So Carol,

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<v Speaker 2>let me start with you a little bit. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna throw a question, like, you know, we all have

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<v Speaker 2>these lives and at one point you decide that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do something that falls in this creative field.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that like for you? What was that like

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<v Speaker 2>for you? And tell us what you do? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us what you do, who you are, what you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I know who you are. One knows who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>We the Coonel and Dev show a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a ball and I have to say Dev

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<v Speaker 4>has been such an incredible positive influence and mentor along

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<v Speaker 4>this media journey. When I was eight years old, I

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<v Speaker 4>knew I wanted to be an entertainment in media, and

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<v Speaker 4>then was told, no, that's not.

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<v Speaker 5>What you're going to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So I went along this other path and good news

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<v Speaker 4>is you're constantly preparing for what you don't know you're

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<v Speaker 4>preparing for.

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<v Speaker 5>And went along. And I'm older.

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<v Speaker 4>Than all the guests here, inclusive of our fabulous host.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on the backside no matter how I look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I had the opportunity to not do all

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<v Speaker 4>my entrepreneur other things real estate and banking, etc.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, I'm going to do this. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>do this. I'm not going to sit around and wonder.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do all. I'm going to get into

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<v Speaker 4>the media and the entertainment. So I said, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Started a production one of eleven, and productions. It was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be about my family because I'm number six

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<v Speaker 4>of eleven. We have writers and songwriters and bank You know,

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<v Speaker 4>anything you've done good or bad, you find that within

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<v Speaker 4>our eleven. And I said, I'm going to do this

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm going to tell these stories because with all

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<v Speaker 4>my heart, I believe we learn through people's stories. And

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<v Speaker 4>then the journey led me to one thing after another,

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<v Speaker 4>and now it's exploding. And the entire mission has been

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<v Speaker 4>to share with others that you're a unique child of

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<v Speaker 4>God and you matter in your story matters, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sharing that every way I can.

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<v Speaker 5>I get to meet people from all over.

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<v Speaker 4>The world and work with deb A lot of things

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<v Speaker 4>coming up as well, and I'll.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell you it's thrilling. It's thrilling. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 5>knew when I was eight this is what I was

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes the journey, like you said, sometimes the journey

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<v Speaker 2>is the preparation. And we all know that frustration, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we all know the frustration. So Ronnie, what about for yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>When was it that you came over to this side?

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say the dark side, because it's really colorful

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<v Speaker 6>not an art nerd. I wanted to I had a

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<v Speaker 6>great admiration and love for biology. So it was like marine, bio, neurobiopsychology,

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<v Speaker 6>anything in those fields for me is what I was

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<v Speaker 6>really attracted to ever since I was a kid. But

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<v Speaker 6>it was one day I was just taking a photography

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<v Speaker 6>class at community college and I fell in.

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<v Speaker 6>I started with film, right, and I fell in love

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<v Speaker 6>with the dark room and it was such a I

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<v Speaker 6>would spend like ten twelve hours in the dark room

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<v Speaker 6>just the magic of seeing a print come to life. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>this is before digital, before the instant gratification. You had

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<v Speaker 6>to go through a process and you had to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>have your print go through chemicals, and you had to

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<v Speaker 6>wait and you had to if you were able to

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<v Speaker 6>capture that moment or not. And to me, that was

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<v Speaker 6>very cathartic, it was very zen, and that was kind

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<v Speaker 6>of the inception for me. And then I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 6>one day somebody came into the college saying, hey, I'd

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<v Speaker 6>like to hire a photographer. And then when I figured

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<v Speaker 6>out that people are willing to pay for photos, that

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<v Speaker 6>was it. That was it, and then it just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of snowballed from there. So currently I am a photographer,

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<v Speaker 6>graphic designer, cinematographer, filmmaker, everything to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Like Carol said, really just being a storyteller, right, That's

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<v Speaker 6>really what it's come down for me, is finally realizing

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<v Speaker 6>at this point in my life that I'm a storyteller.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't realize that until recently. I thought I was

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<v Speaker 6>just I liked creating images and collaborating with people. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, within the last couple of years, it kind

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<v Speaker 6>of finally hit Oh wait, I guess I tell stories.

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<v Speaker 6>And so now that's kind of given me at a

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<v Speaker 6>brand new direction, right as a creative, to focus in

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<v Speaker 6>on all the skills that I have and how now

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<v Speaker 6>do I bring them all together and collaborate with other

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<v Speaker 6>amazing folks to bring stories to life, And especially now nowadays,

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<v Speaker 6>we need that more than ever, right, we need to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to grab people's attention and hold it and

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<v Speaker 6>kind of you know, reprogram ourselves to go beyond the

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<v Speaker 6>instant gratification and invest invest in the story.

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<v Speaker 7>And by doing that, we're investing in ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, thank you, that's so interesting, isn't it so interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>And I took photography in school and I remember taking

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<v Speaker 2>the little plastic tongs and going from one wash to

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<v Speaker 2>used to take pictures on a camera and you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take forty five pictures because you had a camera roll.

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<v Speaker 2>You only had so many pictures and you had to hope.

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<v Speaker 2>You went and picked up your pictures and you looked

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<v Speaker 2>through like that one didn't work, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>That one didn't work. And I think there is something

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<v Speaker 2>to be said about that whole instant. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people will say to me, they're like, oh, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to make my now. Sometimes if you're doing a short

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<v Speaker 2>a certain time. But you know, I have some people

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<v Speaker 2>say to me, I've got to keep all my content

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<v Speaker 2>really short. I've got to keep it. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been wiring our brains that way. But I said,

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<v Speaker 2>when's the last time you went in to see a

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<v Speaker 2>movie and you got up after ten minutes or five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes or ninety seconds? You stayed the whole hour, an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half or two. So if you're talking,

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<v Speaker 2>you're giving value, You're engaging people, You're teaching people.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang they're going to hang out. How many people leave

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<v Speaker 2>in a conference They're like, got to go? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think if we just can re talk that

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<v Speaker 2>or retalk that, have that conversation. But that's awesome and

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<v Speaker 2>Ocean Ocean, tell us a little bit about you, what

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<v Speaker 2>you do and what was it? What was the point?

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<v Speaker 2>Was there a point did you go from something else

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<v Speaker 2>into creative or did you just start in this field.

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<v Speaker 8>I always wanted to have my my own clothing line

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<v Speaker 8>and my own business.

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<v Speaker 9>Since I was a child.

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<v Speaker 8>I always wanted to have that following, especially because I

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<v Speaker 8>was very interested in sneakers in the street whear world,

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<v Speaker 8>and I would watch and even myself would even line

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<v Speaker 8>up for a drop for a ticket to get the

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<v Speaker 8>shoes that you wanted to get. And but I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 9>So Ever, since I was a kid, I had like

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<v Speaker 8>so now we're truly following my path and I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>Now, right on, did you ever work for anyone or

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<v Speaker 8>Was I worked at you know, golds, and I worked

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<v Speaker 8>products and my own creations is very very surreal, very.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, very cool. Carol, I'm me to go to you. Thanks, Machoshan,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to you. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing life and all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the eight year old starts screaming like, yeah, what about me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think there's risk in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that we do, whether it's in business or out

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<v Speaker 2>of business, But was there something that felt risky that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for some people it's financial, for some people

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<v Speaker 2>it's people in their life that are like what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? Like support for it? Could could it be

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm taking something away from a business that's already successful,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's going to happen to that business? Like where

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<v Speaker 4>of those areas. Those are great examples.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll just speak to the one that was the largest

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<v Speaker 4>Point that if I pursued anything much less, anything new,

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<v Speaker 4>because you dive in to this area, any type of creative,

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<v Speaker 5>You're consumed with it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I now at this point I have two incredible

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<v Speaker 5>They're a little bit older. But what I.

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<v Speaker 4>The risk I was taking was that this beautiful group

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<v Speaker 4>of family that I cherished so much is thinking what

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<v Speaker 4>you now, You're making a choice. Instead of being completely

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<v Speaker 4>on top of this time that we all have, you

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<v Speaker 4>are making a choice to continue. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>as an entrepreneur and especially as a creative, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>It's constantly in you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just something dying to get out and

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<v Speaker 4>they have been instead.

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<v Speaker 5>I took that risk knowing.

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<v Speaker 4>That I would be better with and for them and

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<v Speaker 4>as a walk the talk kind of person if I

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<v Speaker 4>went forward with it. And you know, to me, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest risk of all, is that those around you

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<v Speaker 4>that you cherish and you're so grateful for and it

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<v Speaker 4>turns out after a while of doing it, now they

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<v Speaker 4>love it. Now I interview the little girls, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't put them up, but they're you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're very creative.

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<v Speaker 5>So thank you father.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all working out. So the risk was worth it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was scary.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that transparency because it's real. You know, it's real,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you go into something that's enveloping, right, you go

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<v Speaker 2>into something that's enveloping. You didn't go and grab another

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<v Speaker 2>job that had hours and structure and that could be

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<v Speaker 2>worked around. So when you go into that even as

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<v Speaker 2>an entrepreneur, you know, I had two children that were

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<v Speaker 2>ten years apart, and when I first started, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a particular person in my family that thought

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<v Speaker 2>they'd sure with my daughter, like I gave up my

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<v Speaker 2>career when I had my children, And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not sleeping over at her house anymore, Like Lily

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<v Speaker 2>I called her, I'm like, she's not coming back, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's And then it's hard to work within yourself on

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<v Speaker 2>it because the bottom line is it's in us too, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, I know, I'm not spending time there, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>spending time here. And what does me spending time here?

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<v Speaker 8>What?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to like, you go, but what value does

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<v Speaker 2>that bring? Like, what value does that bring that grandchild,

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<v Speaker 2>that child that would have you to see and watch

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully you inbed a different set of values. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I and my daughter was like, well, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be the yah. Yeah, that takes her shopping in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, I am, you know so, but

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<v Speaker 2>it takes a while for me it did anyway. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for bringing that up, because that's a that's

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<v Speaker 2>a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a real thing, and that I can throw in

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<v Speaker 4>one comment about it just recently, and I so appreciated this.

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<v Speaker 4>One of my three kiddos. They're all grown and have

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<v Speaker 4>these beautiful careers, thank God. And she said, I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you how much I appreciate that you start,

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<v Speaker 4>that you chose to continue to learn and grow and

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<v Speaker 4>do something. Because so many of my dear friends, their

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<v Speaker 4>mothers are not they're not active enough, and they're looking

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<v Speaker 5>I think maybe I'm the other extreme.

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<v Speaker 4>However, I did appreciate that they shared that they were

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<v Speaker 4>cool with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right on, right on, Thank you so much. And Ronnie,

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<v Speaker 2>what about for you risk.

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<v Speaker 6>I started in my early twenties, you know, down this

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<v Speaker 6>path of I started as a photographer, and then, like

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<v Speaker 6>I mentioned earlier, when somebody said, oh my gosh, we'll

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<v Speaker 6>pay you, it blew my mind. I can make money

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<v Speaker 6>doing this. But the risk really was can I make

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<v Speaker 6>a living at this? Is this something that is sustainable?

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<v Speaker 6>Does this actually make sense? And when you're in your twenties,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a whole lot of bravado, there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, feeling like you're immortal, nothing can hurt you.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll figure it out, like you know, And thank god

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<v Speaker 6>I had that because that did actually help me. I

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<v Speaker 6>had my first business at twenty five, and we worked,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, with local chambers of commerce, we worked with

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<v Speaker 6>the city of la We did some pretty good stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>which was kind of my point. Except again, but it

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<v Speaker 6>was my naivete that got us through that because I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't know we weren't supposed to be able to do that, right,

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<v Speaker 6>not having an inexperience, not knowing what a contract was,

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<v Speaker 6>not knowing about any of this stuff. But the risk

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<v Speaker 6>was that, right because almost majority of my life I

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<v Speaker 6>always worked for myself. But it's always that. But can

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<v Speaker 6>I continue doing this? Can I continue to sustain myself?

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<v Speaker 6>Can I ever buy a home doing this? Can I

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<v Speaker 6>ever have a family doing this? And it's gotten scary

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<v Speaker 6>many times. I'm first generation here. My family's from Alstad,

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<v Speaker 6>syndrome too, a lot of imposter syndrome. So, Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>I can do this, but everything says I can maybe,

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<v Speaker 6>like so much doubt that just overwhelms your mind on

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<v Speaker 6>the day to day basis. But then, like Carol said,

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<v Speaker 6>there's also this thing in you that just has to

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<v Speaker 6>come out, this vision, this idea, this ambition. It's it's

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<v Speaker 6>like it's its own little being inside of you that

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<v Speaker 6>just needs to breathe right, and so it's a it's

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<v Speaker 6>a constant battle that I'll be honest, continues to this day.

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<v Speaker 6>I've gotten to do and work on some pretty amazing

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<v Speaker 6>things over my creative career, and I still wake up

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<v Speaker 6>thinking sometimes, gosh, but can I continue doing this? There's

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<v Speaker 6>so many good people out there, and technology, technology being

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<v Speaker 6>what it is, it's kind of like a little scary

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<v Speaker 7>Because of what technology can do now?

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<v Speaker 6>So there's a lot of questions there, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>the risk never goes away per se. We're always anytime,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is part of just being an artist. An

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<v Speaker 6>artist has to be vulnerable for it the work to

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<v Speaker 6>be good. So you risk every single day. You risk

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<v Speaker 6>every single time you create something. You are giving part

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<v Speaker 6>think it's inherent to a creative I think what we

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<v Speaker 6>need to do is just be brave, right, find that courage,

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<v Speaker 6>suck it up and do it. And then there's always

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<v Speaker 6>that beautiful satisfaction when you see the piece of art,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it may be, and then the reaction from the

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. That's such a big piece of it, isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>The process and what goes on in the mind of

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<v Speaker 2>an entrepreneur, never mind a creative entrepreneur. Where because it

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<v Speaker 2>is creativity, because it's so go up to you to

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<v Speaker 2>access that and then stay in that. You hear people

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<v Speaker 2>having writers blocks or artist blocks, and you know then

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<v Speaker 2>that starts to get a little more panicky for people

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment. Is it going to happen? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>going to be received? I just poured six months into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this film going to make it? Is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to have that? There's so many elements that are the unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>entrepreneurship anyways. But if you have a coach and you

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<v Speaker 2>have a master class, you know you've worked on your masterclass.

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll capture what you capture. But with art, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when you produce it, you can't be guaranteed people's responses

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<v Speaker 2>because they vary. Some people like I need to hang

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<v Speaker 2>that in my hallways. Some people like, please no one

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<v Speaker 2>buy me that for Christmas? Like you just don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's part of the exploratory experience. So that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>well said Ocean. What about for you? I mean share

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<v Speaker 2>with us, share with us, like, what does it feel

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<v Speaker 2>like to be an art this? What was risky for

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<v Speaker 2>you about going into your business? Maybe it was going

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<v Speaker 8>what I was kind of thinking as well, where it

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<v Speaker 8>this is my true passion and how can we continue

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<v Speaker 8>and grow? And I feel like Ronie's to what I

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<v Speaker 8>artist is pretty surreal, Like you do get that where

422
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<v Speaker 8>you do learn like old people love it or people

423
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<v Speaker 8>don't love it, and then you get to kind of

424
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<v Speaker 8>experience that and still make your own thing out of

425
00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.160
<v Speaker 8>that and sometimes people get it, sometimes they don't, but

426
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<v Speaker 8>you know, you.

427
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<v Speaker 9>Still talk to them.

428
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<v Speaker 8>They still kind of appreciate what you're trying to do

429
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<v Speaker 8>and how you're showing up. But yeah, I think that's

430
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<v Speaker 8>pretty true, like to continue with it? And how are

431
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<v Speaker 8>you going to get enough money to produce more and yeah,

432
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:15.279
<v Speaker 8>that's and doing like custom work, all those things kind

433
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<v Speaker 8>of going to one and like, yeah, it's pretty it's

434
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<v Speaker 8>pretty like that.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Pretty like that. I mean, I think you talked about

436
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<v Speaker 2>something really real and transparent, like Carol did the money.

437
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<v Speaker 2>The money. You know, when you are creating and you

438
00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>spend time creating in this field, particularly, there's a lot

439
00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.160
<v Speaker 2>of cart before the horse, you know what I mean,

440
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.400
<v Speaker 2>if you're creating something new, like a fashion line, like

441
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<v Speaker 2>a movie, like a show, right, Like, I think it's

442
00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:44.559
<v Speaker 2>a great idea. Is it a great idea? Am I

443
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<v Speaker 2>on the mark? Or am I off three percent? Because

444
00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:49.480
<v Speaker 2>we know three percent could be you know, everything, And

445
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to sell this, produce this to get money

446
00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:57.839
<v Speaker 2>so I can keep producing and creating. And its cyclical, right,

447
00:22:58.160 --> 00:22:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Ocean I Show. I saw you at a

448
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.319
<v Speaker 2>trade show this weekend, pretty sure. We were hanging out

449
00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:05.559
<v Speaker 2>and I saw you. You had just produced eleven new

450
00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 2>stickers for this TV show that you're doing, right for

451
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:12.039
<v Speaker 2>the Tattoo Show, and you had it all out and

452
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<v Speaker 2>it was interesting what you were saying to people because

453
00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, people were engaged, and then before they left,

454
00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you actually had them voting on their top three pieces

455
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<v Speaker 2>of you know, the stickers that they liked, and it

456
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<v Speaker 2>was interesting for you. I've seen you do that before

457
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.079
<v Speaker 2>at a different show. If you did it at the

458
00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Japan show, different crowd. I saw you do it at

459
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<v Speaker 2>this show, which was more of an artisan kind of crowd,

460
00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:36.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was really interesting for you to for meet

461
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.319
<v Speaker 2>observe you taking notes and then you know, really what

462
00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:45.079
<v Speaker 2>pictures were riding high, which then I know you're taking

463
00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.119
<v Speaker 2>that decision and those are the first pieces that you'll

464
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<v Speaker 2>take to market. So it's very interesting. Sometimes you can't

465
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<v Speaker 2>do that right, and it's expensive to do that. You know,

466
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.119
<v Speaker 2>you go to a show for market research, it's thousands

467
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<v Speaker 2>of dollars for market research. But those are the things

468
00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 2>that people don't know, right, they don't know. So, like

469
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<v Speaker 2>you said, Ronnie, when someone sees something that you've produced

470
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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh my gosh, that was the best

471
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<v Speaker 2>podcast I've been on. Oh my gosh, I love the

472
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:11.759
<v Speaker 2>shirt I'm wearing. Oh my gosh, the pictures are gorgeous.

473
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<v Speaker 2>There's more than just hey things. It's like really a

474
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<v Speaker 2>soul confirmation that you're on the right that you're on

475
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<v Speaker 2>the right path. So let's flip this, let's flip this.

476
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>So there's risk, there's reward, there's whole things. So let's

477
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>talk about the reward. Let's talk about what is one

478
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<v Speaker 2>of the coolest things that you've ever experienced as a

479
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:32.079
<v Speaker 2>personal development piece or I don't know, someone walked up

480
00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to you that was cool, like Carol shared me a

481
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 2>cool moment from being in this world of creative and

482
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<v Speaker 2>media that you were like, man, you know that was awesome.

483
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<v Speaker 2>You know, you just shared one kind of when your

484
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<v Speaker 2>daughter came out to you. But something cool that happened

485
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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't expect.

486
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<v Speaker 4>I did not expect to have people that have been

487
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<v Speaker 4>in this industry that have been very successful, you know,

488
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<v Speaker 4>and any of the filmmakers, actors, music makers. You know

489
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<v Speaker 4>Ronnie here, I mean it's you know, Ocean, you're developing

490
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<v Speaker 4>your own stuff. When people like that you hear one

491
00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 4>validating word, I'm covered in chills because you know, it's amazing,

492
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<v Speaker 4>you know, to everybody's point to Ronnie and Ocean.

493
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<v Speaker 5>Were so vulnerable to.

494
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<v Speaker 4>Choose this is to say, Okay, I'm gonna put myself

495
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 4>out there, and it was a beauty. This doesn't have

496
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.720
<v Speaker 4>anything about anybody famous saying anything, or my family, who

497
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 4>I care about more than anything, saying something validating. I

498
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 4>realized it was eye opening, very cool for me to

499
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:47.319
<v Speaker 4>realize that through the vulnerability, peace, my hesitation to put

500
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:53.640
<v Speaker 4>some work out there, I preach about accountable for what

501
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 4>we're doing, right, I realized I was judging the people

502
00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 4>that were going to see it, how they were going

503
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:01.559
<v Speaker 4>to look at me.

504
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:03.359
<v Speaker 5>I was the one being.

505
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<v Speaker 4>Judgy, and I think it was very cool and eye

506
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.279
<v Speaker 4>opening and freeing for me to say, I'm just go

507
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 4>ahead and trust these people. You know, I'm not going

508
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 4>to prejudge what they're going to feel like, which also

509
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 4>helped me.

510
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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, with the imposter syndrome.

511
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.759
<v Speaker 4>You know, just I'm out here and I'm sharing a

512
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<v Speaker 4>piece of me and hopefully it connects and hopefully it

513
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 4>connects other and most importantly, the coolest thing of all

514
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 4>is when somebody else decides to share their creativity. Because

515
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I was, like Ronnie said, I was brave enough. I

516
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 4>was just braving. I just did it.

517
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<v Speaker 5>And like you have you preach, stand up, show up

518
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 5>and speak up. I mean, it's like, you know, just

519
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 5>do this.

520
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.359
<v Speaker 4>So that's the coolest part for me that it might

521
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 4>inspire someone else to throw that piece of themselves out

522
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<v Speaker 4>there right on.

523
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I mean to Shay too. Sha,

524
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>what about you, what's a cool experience for you.

525
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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna try to say this real quick because three

526
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 6>things come up and they and they're very unique in

527
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 6>how they hit me. So I've worked behind the camera

528
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 6>in films as well, right, and so I've been doing

529
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 6>this for over twenty years, and a few years ago

530
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 6>I worked on a documentary on human trafficking and very heavy,

531
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 6>very intense, but got great reception, you know, great audiences

532
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 6>throughout the world, and the film was shortlisted for an

533
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 6>Oscar nomination. That to me was huge, Like, you know,

534
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.160
<v Speaker 6>you do things, you work on stuff, and you show

535
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 6>up and you have no idea.

536
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 7>You just show up and try to do your best.

537
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 6>And there were a bunch of other camera folks on this, right,

538
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 6>it was a huge team, and I was just one

539
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 6>of the camera people on there. But to be part

540
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 6>of a team that did something that goes back to well,

541
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 6>we're kind of talking about it, got that kind of acknowledgement.

542
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 7>Didn't win, that's fine.

543
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 6>Just to be shortlisted as an Oscar nominee, though, was

544
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 6>mind blowing.

545
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 7>It was mind blowing.

546
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 6>Recently, I did some graphic design work for Sheila E

547
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 6>and she just won a Grammy for a single, and

548
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:23.960
<v Speaker 6>I did the art for that single, and so I

549
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 6>was watching the Grammys and it was mind blowing to

550
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 6>see my art on the stage as she's getting her

551
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:31.680
<v Speaker 6>a Grammy award.

552
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 7>And again another.

553
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 6>Little tidbit of like oh wow, what really did that

554
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 6>just happen, and taking a million screenshots on my computer

555
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 6>like oh my god, you know, to kind of verify

556
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 6>it later like no way, no way. And then I

557
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.519
<v Speaker 6>also do fine art, and a couple of years.

558
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 7>Ago I had an art show, an arts series.

559
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 6>It's called Our Stories Are Ancient, and these are portraits

560
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 6>that I take of people with symbols drawn on glass.

561
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 7>But then they hold no photoshop. There is all traditional photography.

562
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 6>They hold the glass in front of them and the

563
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 6>symbol represents their particular ancestry or indigeneity. And the point

564
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 6>of the story is to get us to kind of

565
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 6>remember where we come from.

566
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<v Speaker 7>And so I had an.

567
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 6>Art show at the college where I currently work at

568
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.400
<v Speaker 6>and the student came up to me at the end

569
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 6>of the show just completely in tears, gave me a

570
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 6>big old hug, and she was like, you know what,

571
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 6>thank you, Like I didn't even realize that I should

572
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 6>be asking that question where do I come from? And that,

573
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 6>to me, it was hit me so so powerful. It

574
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 6>was so poignant right to realize that an image right

575
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 6>can give birth to that kind of question, such a

576
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 6>powerful question to say.

577
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 7>Who am I? And where do I come from?

578
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 6>And so like those three stick out of my mind,

579
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 6>and those are three things that I do try to

580
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 6>pull to whenever I'm having doubt, like I'm not gonna lie.

581
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 6>I woke up this morning with a little creative doubt.

582
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>I mete it happens right, and I was like, I

583
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 6>have so much to do and I have no idea

584
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 6>how man to do it. But then you recall and

585
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 6>then you get to be in beautiful spaces like this.

586
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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for facilitating this, because listening to you all

587
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 6>and whatnot right now, I'm like, yeah, the pain is

588
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:16.559
<v Speaker 6>part of the struggle. We're supposed to suffer a little bit,

589
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 6>otherwise the art doesn't have that sat right, And so

590
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 6>there you go, thank you.

591
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>There it is, No, that's beautiful. Look, I think I

592
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>think doubt's part of the deal when you step out

593
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 2>of when you step into a venture that you may

594
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 2>not have done before, and or like I said, in

595
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the world of entrepreneurship and people go, oh, it's a journey.

596
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you describe the journey, it's full of everything.

597
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 2>You get up, you put your two feet on the ground.

598
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 2>We know we're going to get up. We know we're

599
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>going to do our day. We know O bring our best.

600
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm listening to youtubes in the morning. I've

601
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>got you know, music playing while I'm in the shower.

602
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Like we you know, we source our we source our

603
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>substance for that day. Look, you know, I was in

604
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>the shower this morning, going, I'm launching a TV channel

605
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 2>in less than twelve hours. What was I thinking? Right,

606
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm like where And it started going and I said,

607
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I just said to someone before the show, I'm being

608
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.599
<v Speaker 2>completely transparent. I'm like, I shouldn't have been alone today.

609
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I should have known it to have someone here to go.

610
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, it's okay. Like the website's not done, It's okay,

611
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>it's okay. You mean, but it's it's part of it.

612
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 2>And you know there's some dialogue in there, you know

613
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 2>that's going, like so who do you think you are.

614
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where that comes from, because you know,

615
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>we've surpassed that many times. And when you know I'm

616
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>not twenty, you know, I've proven myself to be like

617
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, and there's days where I earned this and

618
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I can show it. But I think that I think

619
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it is part of the creative process. And I think

620
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like when Barbara streisand you know, she talked about

621
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 2>how she sung and why she's so stage you know

622
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>she has so much stay is that she literally was

623
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>in Central Park and she was singing and she forgot

624
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>all the words and to this day it's very hard

625
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>for her to get over. You'll very rarely see her

626
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in concert. I think she sung a song at a

627
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>campaign whence a presidential campaign, and they paid her a

628
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>three million because she literally like that's how much pain

629
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 2>it is for her, because she just couldn't un trauma

630
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 2>that right, And you're thinking, one of the most gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful singers in the world, you know, Yeah, very interesting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>ocean for you for you, which is some of the

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<v Speaker 2>coolest things that's happened for you, Like what puts a

634
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<v Speaker 2>small on your face when you're doing your thing or yeah,

635
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<v Speaker 2>what it feels cool.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think this year definitely had a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>ful this beginning, and then last year I think it

638
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<v Speaker 8>was a big change for us, especially because meeting like

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<v Speaker 8>people like big Percy who's like snoops and she Hustle's manager,

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<v Speaker 8>like that was cool on him, like wearing the hats,

641
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<v Speaker 8>and but even like when we're back home, especially at

642
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<v Speaker 8>the trade show, where you see people who are like, oh,

643
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<v Speaker 8>this is awesome, and they generally get like excited about

644
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<v Speaker 8>like putting it on or like even looking at a sticker,

645
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<v Speaker 8>or they just generally like, oh my gosh, it's so cool,

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<v Speaker 8>Like I need to like have it.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's so like such a big impact.

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<v Speaker 8>And just seeing the people's like smiling and like thinking

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<v Speaker 8>like just having enjoyed their face when I was just

650
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<v Speaker 8>like looking through and oh my god, this is so cool.

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<v Speaker 9>This this is like I definitely need this, like in

652
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<v Speaker 9>my life. This is so cool.

653
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<v Speaker 8>And then like even seeing people close to you get

654
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<v Speaker 8>inspired by what you're doing.

655
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<v Speaker 9>And even like I know somebody.

656
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<v Speaker 8>Who now has like a clothing line and I don't

657
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<v Speaker 8>want to take credit, but but I feel like a

658
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<v Speaker 8>little bit I don't know, a little bit of motivation,

659
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<v Speaker 8>like kind of like you can do it like kind

660
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<v Speaker 8>of thing. But stuff like that is just like put

661
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<v Speaker 8>a smile on your face and even helping like your

662
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<v Speaker 8>friends do what they want to.

663
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<v Speaker 9>Have a friend who wanted to do this kind of

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<v Speaker 9>like wellness club.

665
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<v Speaker 8>Not like Jim, but like like recovery, And every time

666
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<v Speaker 8>I see him, I'm like, okay, so did you get

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<v Speaker 8>the marketing plan down?

668
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<v Speaker 9>Did you get the did you write the business plan?

669
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<v Speaker 2>Yet?

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<v Speaker 8>Soon seeing I'm like, okay, I'm gonna give you like

671
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<v Speaker 8>two days. Like it's just like a little bit like motivation.

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<v Speaker 9>I really love that.

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<v Speaker 8>Like and then now knowing that he's already done it

674
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<v Speaker 8>and now he's like he's been the works of it

675
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<v Speaker 8>for like a year and trying to get a place,

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<v Speaker 8>like I think that's such a I don't know, inspiration

677
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<v Speaker 8>for me to keep going.

678
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<v Speaker 9>And then seeing where you go with your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's awesome. Well, you know, you know when you

680
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 2>start barking about it, and these guys can tell you,

681
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>when you start telling people what to do, then you

682
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 2>know that you've got to stay in the game, right

683
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>because you're now there's people watching me, and now I'm

684
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<v Speaker 2>telling them what because now you've got to stay that

685
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<v Speaker 2>that's awesome.

686
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<v Speaker 9>It's not like barking. It's like, uh, like a little

687
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<v Speaker 9>like a little push. He's a good friend of mine,

688
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<v Speaker 9>so it's just like I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>On, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Look, I could go all day.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to almost say I think this is some

691
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<v Speaker 2>way I allowed to say. This is one of my

692
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<v Speaker 2>favorite shows, probably because I'm with my pipes. I'm always

693
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<v Speaker 2>with my peeps. But this is super fun. Let's wrap

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<v Speaker 2>this up. So I'm gonna go to you and I'm

695
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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'll ask you one last question after this. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people out there that are entrepreneurs

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<v Speaker 2>that are relating to what you're saying. Absolutely, this is

698
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<v Speaker 2>such a relatable conversation. But we always like to be

699
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<v Speaker 2>able to take advice right. People call it sex ass tams.

700
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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of boring. It's like I would say things

701
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<v Speaker 2>like that are like, you know, burgundy bridesmaid dresses in

702
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>the eighties. It should never come back. But the ten

703
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<v Speaker 2>pop dams. So that's sorry if that's what you use

704
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<v Speaker 2>for your book title. Anyway, the there you go, just

705
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>put myself out there. Someone hates me, the uh, but look,

706
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>we all try to do this easier. We try to

707
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>share things that make it better. We motivate people and

708
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<v Speaker 2>inspire people. What was something that you did in your

709
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<v Speaker 2>business as a creative that I don't know made money, quicker,

710
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>saved you some time? It could be not caring what

711
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 2>people think. I mean, that could be a success hack.

712
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<v Speaker 2>Right there. I'll kind of go around the room as

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<v Speaker 2>I do if you can please, because we have a

714
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<v Speaker 2>lot of listeners and watchers and there's gonna be some

715
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<v Speaker 2>cool show notes about you. But if you can just mention,

716
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>like your website or something where people can find out

717
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>where you are, that'd be great. So Carol, let's start

718
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>with you. Something that you do. I call it top performance.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, something that just get you.

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<v Speaker 4>There, Use the real strength, ask for the help, reach out,

721
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 4>ask save yourself a bunch of trouble and ask people

722
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 4>that have done it, people that have just gotten started.

723
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<v Speaker 5>They want to share, They do want to share.

724
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<v Speaker 4>Don't judge another person judging you for you reading out

725
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<v Speaker 4>because of what they're really say is you know what

726
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<v Speaker 4>this person was brave enough to ask.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to give them advice. That's what I'm going

728
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<v Speaker 5>to say. Oh, where to get me.

729
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<v Speaker 4>Hear optreesy dot com and move into the world of

730
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<v Speaker 4>the life.

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<v Speaker 5>You were welcome, you matter, your story matters, Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Over, right on, right on, and Ronnie.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'll tell you kind of go back to when

734
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<v Speaker 6>I first started. I said, I first visited the twenty five.

735
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 6>I was twenty five, but I looked twelve. And so

736
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<v Speaker 6>the first I remember the first time I went into

737
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<v Speaker 6>a Chamber of commerce networking business networking event and I

738
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 6>didn't know how to speak.

739
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<v Speaker 7>I was like, how do I do this?

740
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<v Speaker 6>And I was able to go in there and go

741
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 6>toe to toe and give that firm handshake and look

742
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 6>people in the eye and kind of making it up though,

743
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<v Speaker 6>walk out with business.

744
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<v Speaker 7>And so.

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<v Speaker 6>My advice is show up, like be everywhere, be everywhere.

746
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 6>No business is going to find you at home, No

747
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 6>business is going to find you sitting in your office.

748
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<v Speaker 7>People.

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<v Speaker 6>And this is a lesson I've just recently learned, and

750
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 6>I've been like, I've been doing those over twenty years.

751
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<v Speaker 6>I've got a business name, and I'll throw that out

752
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 6>there right now. It's our a studio anddesign dot com.

753
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 6>And it's the same for Instagram are a studio and design.

754
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<v Speaker 6>But people don't care about my business name. People want

755
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<v Speaker 6>to do business with me. And that was a huge lesson.

756
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<v Speaker 6>I was so busy, caught up, you know, very much

757
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<v Speaker 6>for what I've done for other businesses. Create their logos,

758
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 6>create their marketing assets, you know, make sure that their

759
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 6>taglinees like, you know, create all this stuff that makes

760
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<v Speaker 6>them look good. And I was trying to do that

761
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<v Speaker 6>for myself, and then one day it just hit me.

762
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<v Speaker 6>It was like, no one cares what my business name is.

763
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:57.559
<v Speaker 6>They want to do business with me. They want to

764
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<v Speaker 6>work with me because of what I can produce for them,

765
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<v Speaker 6>because of the relationship that we create together, because of

766
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 6>the collaboration that we're able to fire up together. So

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<v Speaker 6>my advice is get out there, get out there, get

768
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<v Speaker 6>out there. And that's a risk, right because a lot

769
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<v Speaker 6>of us I don't know by y'all, but I'm an introvert.

770
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.599
<v Speaker 6>I am one hundred percent an introvert, and it takes

771
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 6>a lot for me to get out there. It is effort,

772
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 6>but you have to get out there, shake the hands.

773
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 6>I prefer business cards. Everyone's trying to do digital thing,

774
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 6>but I love business cards because it's tangible. You use

775
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 6>all your senses, so have that tool with you when

776
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<v Speaker 6>you go out into the world and mix it up

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<v Speaker 6>with people. Have a good firm handshake with people in

778
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<v Speaker 6>the eye and tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 7>Be vulnerable. So take the risk in two ways.

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00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 6>Get out there and be vulnerable and people will want

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<v Speaker 6>to work with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on, Thank you so much, and ocean. What would

783
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<v Speaker 2>would your advice be to someone to just make this easier?

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<v Speaker 9>To make it easier.

785
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 8>It's never really easy journey, so it's always ups and downs,

786
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 8>there's always obstacles. But to make it easier, just to

787
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 8>kind of do something that you love. Like if it's

788
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<v Speaker 8>getting too hard sometimes just think, well, for me, I

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<v Speaker 8>just kind of usually make a different like art piece

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<v Speaker 8>or a different design. That's what my suggestion is. To

791
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<v Speaker 8>do something kind of fun, something that could help your business.

792
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<v Speaker 8>Maybe just have a call with somebody, maybe just go out,

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<v Speaker 8>like when you're walking around, just hey, this is my

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<v Speaker 8>big like Ronnie sad like business card. I always have

795
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<v Speaker 8>a business card on me, but uh yeah, to make

796
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<v Speaker 8>it easier, just to just kind of have fun with

797
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<v Speaker 8>it kind of If it's getting too much, just take

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<v Speaker 8>a break, think what you've come so far and where

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<v Speaker 8>are you started and kind of reflect by that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's really good advice. I think that many times,

801
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>particularly as entrepreneurs, we look forward a lot. We're looking

802
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 2>forward a lot, we don't really stop and people will

803
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>say this, you know, stop and recognize, like, oh my gosh, Ronnie,

804
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 2>you just like you were taking pictures of your artwork

805
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 2>at the you know, at the Grammys, and it's like,

806
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<v Speaker 2>how much should we take that in? How much do

807
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<v Speaker 2>we enjoy that or how much do we remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, reflect back when you're having those times

809
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>that are unsure or unstable, or that piece didn't sell

810
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<v Speaker 2>us fast, or the guest wasn't able to make it

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<v Speaker 2>that you were banking on or whatever, right, and to

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00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>be able to reflect back to where you started, like

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<v Speaker 2>to where you started, where you were last week, right,

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<v Speaker 2>manytime we take the I thought that's it as like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I start off as a Denny's waitress and

816
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<v Speaker 2>here I am launching a TV channel. That's kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But it made me feel better today. I was like, oh, yeah,

818
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<v Speaker 2>I have come so far. I mean I had to

819
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<v Speaker 2>go back to when I was sixteen. But sometimes if

820
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<v Speaker 2>you just go back to next week or last week

821
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<v Speaker 2>or the week before, or like look how much you've done,

822
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<v Speaker 2>and then recognize that a lot of that's process, and

823
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<v Speaker 2>you know those things that we do when it's hard

824
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<v Speaker 2>for me. I stop, I put on a song, I

825
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<v Speaker 2>go on the belcony, I take two minutes, I come

826
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 2>back and I shift. What is it that makes us shift? Right? So,

827
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<v Speaker 2>what a great conversation that we had today. There was

828
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<v Speaker 2>more than what people would call gold nuggets. I think

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<v Speaker 2>these were absolutely life lessons. And I think that this

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<v Speaker 2>show was all about giving permission. I mean, I really

831
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<v Speaker 2>feel like I think if there's a title that this

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<v Speaker 2>should be called giving Permission. Oh, let's all go do

833
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<v Speaker 2>a book together and write a book called giving Permission.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do it. I'll get it to never

835
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<v Speaker 2>One Ocean does the pictures. Yeah, we can combine your

836
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<v Speaker 2>show and then Ronnie's going to do the whole thing

837
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<v Speaker 2>and all the photography. There you go. That's what happens

838
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<v Speaker 2>when you're a room full of people that are inspired, right, inspired.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting because I think the inn is

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside, right, It's like we're so inspired. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>just wrapping up, I absolutely love this. This is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be such a quick question, Such a quick question.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a lot of time to decide. We

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<v Speaker 2>all know how much I love music. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask that question. You're on your way to a desert island,

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<v Speaker 2>desert on you, You and you, you and you one suitcase.

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<v Speaker 2>You got room for one album to stick in that

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<v Speaker 2>suitcase that you couldn't imagine not listening to for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your days. What's that album going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>You can? You can give me a singer's name. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember the album if you don't want, because if

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<v Speaker 2>I do, everyone gives me greatest hits. But what's one album, Ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start with you. What's one album that you

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<v Speaker 2>just absolutely would wouldn't want to live without?

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<v Speaker 8>Mine always keeps changing every time I feel like on

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<v Speaker 8>this show, but most of the time I gotta stick

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<v Speaker 8>with it's either this one or Michael Jackson. But All

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<v Speaker 8>Eyes on Me by tufauc I just I listen to

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<v Speaker 8>every single day, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, and Carol, you know what, I've just been

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<v Speaker 4>singing this lightly and to your boint Ocean, I change

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<v Speaker 4>every time I'm on this fabulous and my answer is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be I've been seeing a lot of our house,

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<v Speaker 4>which is Grosby Sales Nash.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Crosby Seals Nash, you gotta love it. And

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<v Speaker 2>Ronnie wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 6>You know this name just keeps popping up in my

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<v Speaker 6>head over and over again. Anything Pink Floyd?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah right, yeah wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I want to thank you so much. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk to the audience a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for again hanging out with us during an

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<v Speaker 2>three part mini series, if you want to do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do for us. It's just about creating

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<v Speaker 2>platforms so you and your passion can get seen. If

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<v Speaker 2>there's anything that I know at all is that could

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<v Speaker 2>take some years off your business. That's what we're about.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just like we're all the backstage. I've done lots

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<v Speaker 2>of front stage. Let's just be your backstage and help

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<v Speaker 2>you get out on your front stage. There's lots of

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<v Speaker 2>ways that you do that. You know that your audience

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to support.

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<v Speaker 10>So let's go find your your favorite music, go find

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<v Speaker 10>your favorite album and the gmai's most phone, let me

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<v Speaker 10>know what that is like that makes I think you

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<v Speaker 10>guess the audience absolutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week and as always I want to see well

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe