Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve sec breakdown time of Joe contain.
Speaker 2: The bridges here with you and they comprehensive look at
both the Big Twelve and the Southeastern Conferences.
Speaker 1: We begin with our hot takes as we do each
and every week, and tom My hot take, I'm gonna
go with the job that just opened, the Florida Gators
and my hot take time. I'll be frank with you,
I don't think the Florida jobs that great of a job.
If I'm going to be real with y'all, I know
that it's Florida. They've won national titles with multiple coaches
in you and I's lifetime, with Urban Meyer and with
Steve Spurrier, but their facilities aren't that great. They've had
problems with fundraising, with nil with their coaches there. Either
you win big and win championships or you struggle and
you just can't find your footing. That's what I've seen
in my lifetime. It's been boom or bust with every
coach that they've hired here. And I'm looking at these
other job openings that.
Speaker 2: Are out there. Penn State I think is a fantastic job,
you know.
Speaker 1: I look at Auburn I think Auburn, say what you
want about being the redhead and stepchild Alabama. They got
more resources and more money than Florida does, and that
job is about to open here pretty soon. Some of
these other openings, you know, Oklahoma State, if if you
can win, you know, if you can average between seven
and nine wins, you got longevity that you're not gonna.
Speaker 2: Have in Florida.
Speaker 1: Here. Those are just a few examples. Tom, it sounds crazy.
I get it. It's Florida. You got all that talent
right in your backyard. But there's so many problems there
and mistakes they've made.
Speaker 2: I think that they.
Speaker 1: Yes, they made the right decision fire and Billy Napier,
But I I think it's they got a lot of
work to do on their own for the next coach
they hire, if they're gonna put that coach in a
position to succeed. I don't think it's that great of
a job right now.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. It's it's not as
good as it's been in prior years. It's you know,
kind of lost some of it's luster. You know, when
there was a point in time where it was still
a good job and boom you know, bust after bust
after bus has kind of dropped this program from nationally
respected as a as you.
Speaker 4: Know, an in and out winner every year to very
mid Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it has lost Uh, it's lost its charm
a bit.
Speaker 2: You know, it was uh, it was.
Speaker 1: The flavor of the month a couple of different times,
and now it's been put on the back shelf and
they're gonna need a spark and beyond just the right
head coach potentially to uh to make that work. Tom,
we'll talk more about Billy and Apier and potential candidates
for that job in them Alla.
Speaker 2: But first, what hot take? What do you want to
go with this week?
Speaker 4: Jones?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna ride again with Cincinnati Bearcats this week.
It wasn't that impressive what they did against Oklahoma State
last week, being that it was Oklahoma State. They survived
the banana conga line in Bunpigen Stadium.
Speaker 4: We're very impressive.
Speaker 3: Now they go and the next really biggest game on
the schedule that could be determining a trip to Arlington
is against by U, who just ride off and went
against Utah and I think for the Cincinnati team, I
don't think still don't think enough people are going to
talk about them. I'm I'm here to say right now,
and you have Arizona State to just beat Tech. This
path past weekend kind of put a hole in their
armor of some sorts. I'm gonna say right now, Cincinnati,
I'm locking Cincinnati in Arlington. Really, I'm gonna lock Cincinnati
in Ireland to the trip to the Big Tail Championship game.
Speaker 2: That would be something.
Speaker 1: You look at their schedule going forward, the path to
Arlington for Cincinnati of what's ahead here. You play Baylor
this week at home, and then you play at Utah
that won't be easy. You get Arizona at home that
won't be easy, b YU at home that won't be easy.
Speaker 2: And then at TCU.
Speaker 1: I mean they're their easiest game of the season is
probably this week against Baylor, where they're three and a
half point favorites.
Speaker 2: But those final four games.
Speaker 1: That's that's uh, that's gonna be a tough stretch.
Speaker 2: But but to their credit, they've shown an ability to
win some.
Speaker 1: Tight games against good teams like we saw against Kansas
and Iowa State.
Speaker 3: I think so, and I think that's you know, I
think my turning point to think that they're locking in
Arlington is you get the majority at home, right.
Speaker 4: You know, you have to play, you have to play
at Utah.
Speaker 3: That could be that could be very that that could
look to maybe derail some things. But if you get
that win, uh, you know, you don't have to travel
to Provo, that's a win in my book. BYU is
often right now being very overlooked, I think. But I
like what Cincinnati's doing and just have a good feeling
about it.
Speaker 4: And they've they're they're kind of I don't know.
Speaker 3: With all the talk about Texas Tech, they kind of
share the same colors.
Speaker 4: They kind of feel like a.
Speaker 3: They kind of feel like the underdog when you look
at Tech and BYU kind of being the leaders of
of who most people would considers locks for Arlington.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, I think you're right about that.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Tom, let's talk about first off, let's
pour one out for all friend Billy Napier.
Speaker 2: Everybody raise your Billy. Uh. You know, I feel like.
Speaker 1: Tom, both of us just need to give a toast
to Billy for a moment here with with all we've
been through with Billy, Billy the last two plus years
on this show. You've given us so much content. We've
called for your head numerous times, and it was only
a matter of time.
Speaker 2: Billy. It's not it's not you, it's it's us.
Speaker 1: We felt we had to do this for what was
best for the University of Florida. And we know that
you did a good job at you University of Louisiana Lafayette.
You're probably gonna be a good group of five coach
somewhere again. All the best, all the best to you,
Thanks for everything, and uh.
Speaker 2: We'll see where the Gators go from here.
Speaker 1: So that's that's my salute to Billy day Pier Any uh,
any parting shots, any final message you want to send
you our old friend, Billy day Pier here.
Speaker 3: Tomp No, I feel I don't know. I mean, he
had some great wins. He was he was very uh.
Bruce Pearloca State, Bruce webberin Bruce, sorry have Bruce Weber.
Speaker 4: Sorry Pearl Weber.
Speaker 3: Burt Reynolds Alley, you can tell it's been a long week,
Bruce Weber.
Speaker 4: That that's kind of what I just game by game
somehow survived. It was it was due.
Speaker 3: I almost felt like Michael Will Bond and Tony Kornheiser,
Me and you saying happy trails?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean I got fired after a win.
He went out on top.
Speaker 4: Did what's he what's he doing? A buyout? Any buyout? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, let's see what is the exact number? Uh,
Billy Napier buyout.
Speaker 2: Let's see Billy and Apiers by out.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 2: Oh it's not bad. Just twenty one million.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, happy trails.
Speaker 4: Welcome to cancumb BILLI Napier.
Speaker 2: He gets ten point six of it before November nineteenth.
Speaker 4: That's incredible.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to Europe for Christmas.
Speaker 4: I'll hit, wouldn't you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: If only, if.
Speaker 1: Only our jobs work that way, that's my golden life.
I want to be so bad at my job I
get paid not to do it.
Speaker 4: I get bought out. Yes, I say, we can't stand
you anymore.
Speaker 1: Be Florida job Tom. People are gonna point to Lane Kiffin.
I think Lane would be crazy because he's got more
resources at Ole Miss and he's got complete job security.
Why would he leave that for Florida? To me, that
doesn't make any sense. Although Florida should call a and
I understand them. Eli Drinkwitz. I think he's kind of
reached his ceiling at Missoo. I think they've peaked.
Speaker 2: And you know, he probably doesn't want to have to
compete with Lance.
Speaker 1: Leipold for recruits anymore. You know, Yeah, that's a joke.
That's one where Okay, Florida has its limitations. But if
your goal is to win national championships, you're never going
to do that in missou You might do that at
Florida if you could overcome some things, So that could
be a possibility. But I think James Franklin is also
an idea. And then another name I'll mention who I
really like for the Florida job. He's recruited that area
extremely well. They play a physical brand of foot ball.
His quarterback is kind of like a h A TMU
Tim Tebow Already, Uh, why not Brent Key at Georgia Tech.
With what he's done with Haines Haines King, I think
he would be a very good fit for Florida. I
think that even though this job has its limitations, they
have some things to work through. I think that there
is a the talent pool for this job is still
very deep for them to find the right coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I like that Georgia
Tech mentioned. Not a lot of people are really talking
about Georgia Tech either. That's been a very good football team. Yeah,
I mean, yeah, Haines King of think it's Haines King.
Speaker 4: Is he is Haines King getting drafted?
Speaker 2: I would think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a fighter, you know he Haines King kind
of reminds me of a Baker Mayfield College type of player.
Speaker 2: He's twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: He's an old man, I think. I mean as an
Oklahoma State guy, I wouldn't. I don't think Georgia Tech
coach would come to Oklahoma State. But what they've been
able to do the past couple of years, I'd be
interested to see if he sticks around. If that was
just a Haines King effect or you know, or just
indicative of how good of a coach he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I think you might
be onto something there. The Auburn job. I don't know
how Hugh Freeze is still employed. But that's another one time.
I feel like it is coming very soon. And I
would say this, folks, I know that Auburn goes through
their coaches. They fire guys about every three years, it seems.
And even if you win a championship, like you know
we saw from Gus mileson, even he.
Speaker 4: Got fired from there.
Speaker 1: With all that said, Auburn has more money than Beva
does right now, and.
Speaker 2: Although Bama's playing really good.
Speaker 1: They're one loss away from getting the pitchforks out for
Kaylen de Bor again, and that very well could happen.
Speaker 4: You never know when.
Speaker 1: With that said, top, I think Auburn is an intriguing job.
I don't think they'll have the talent pool that Florida does.
I don't think people know that situation of what's going
on there and what's going on in Florida in detail
like what you and I do. But I think if
you gave me the choice, because of the circumstance and
with the resources and the money that's available, I would
rather take the Auburn job than I take a Flora's
job right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're wrong about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's very likely that Auburn could
be even a little bit better, if not just about equal.
I mean, if you wanted to hand me the keys
to one Gainesville is you know Gainesville, But Alburn doesn't
look near as bad as is Maybe what's going on
in Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Big twelve side of things, Tom b Yu. What
if I told you before the year started they'd be
the last remaining undefeated Big twelve team.
Speaker 4: M hm be interesting.
Speaker 3: I know, right the TALKI was on the hot seat
a couple of years, you know, for the last few
years kind.
Speaker 4: Of up and down. But they're quietly marching in Provo.
Speaker 1: And impressive win last week against Utah too. They were
underdogs at home and they showed up and showed out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, not enough people
are talking about them. It could very well be BYU
Vers Cincinnati or you know much maybe to Texas Tech Dismay,
but they're they're looking stout, and like I said before,
not enough people are talking about them.
Speaker 4: You know, you you.
Speaker 3: Had the by Jew leave and then you have this
Bachmer kid come in and do what he's been able
to do. Granted he comes term a line of quarterbacks
in his family. Uh one that used to play for
Boise State a few years ago, Hank I think or
whatever one of those Baker kids did. So he's he's
from a long line of of quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: So what by he's been able to do.
Speaker 3: Though after the Jake retzlift thing, see, it would seem
like it was gonna maybe derail some things.
Speaker 4: It's been quite the opposite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bock Meyer's been fantastic. I like their defense. And
here's another thing, Tom too, we can talk about pride.
Utah came into the Big Twelve thinking that they were
going to own this league, and they sure as hell
thought they were going.
Speaker 2: To own the state of Utah. Not only have they.
Speaker 1: Not even come close to owning the Big twelve, BYU
has owned that state the last two seasons. They've won
three in a row against Utah now and they are
the better Big twelve program at this.
Speaker 2: Point in time. Granted, things can change.
Speaker 1: It is a year to year sports, but I think
there's something to be said Tom that, you know, all
the expectation, all the momentum Utah had coming into the
Big twelve, and here was Utah, here was BYU, their
first chance, their first crack of being in a power conference,
being an independent and everything here and they fully capitalized.
And they've spent some big money in nil not just
in football too, they've spent in basketball as well.
Speaker 2: I think this incredible story that what BYU has.
Speaker 1: Done in this in this moment, this that this this
is their moment here in college football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean, are we gonna see?
Could we see a BYU team in the College Football Playoff?
Speaker 4: Would you want to? I mean.
Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know how it'll shake out, just shit,
but I imagine having to play provo at night college
Football Round one.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at for BYU here, so there's
seven and zero right now, you got I would stay
down the road this week, and I would stay shorthanded
a corner.
Speaker 2: They should win. That.
Speaker 1: The Tech game is gonna be awesome. That game's in Lobbock.
Can't wait to see how that unfolds. Maybe a big
twelve championship game, preview game of the year in the conference.
Then you play TCU at home, Cincinnati on the road,
and UCF at home. I would think even if they
beat Texas Tech to probably slip.
Speaker 2: Up one time.
Speaker 1: So then you say to yourself, Okay, does a want
can you get too big twelve teams in the playoff?
I think what's gotta happen for that to be the
case Tom b Yu or Texas Tech. One of the
two has to pretty much win out if both of
them are gonna make the playoff. The margins are a
razor thin at this point, but it's certainly not out
of the round with possibility. I think Texas Tech it's
a slightly better team. I think that they got more depth.
I don't take I said, you know, I don't think
it's bad loss Tech last week losing to the defending
Big twelfth champs Sam Levitt came back, well, Hammond was out,
and they still had a chance to win that game.
If uh if, if Hammond had not started, and you know,
Morton would have played, they win that game, probably by
ten points or more. I still like this Tech team
a lot. I think Tech can still be a national
title contending team. B Yu, I like what they are,
but I don't know if I like them as.
Speaker 2: A national title contending team yet. But I would say
I like Tech more.
Speaker 1: Than I do BYU Right now, who do who do
you like more between those two at this moment.
Speaker 4: I think you mentioned the talent. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a super big talent gap, but
I do give Tech the edge talent wise against BYU.
As far as coaching, I think Sataki's been there for
obviously a long while, and I'm as good as Texas
Tech is talent wise. I'm still not a huge believer
in Joy maguire. I think it's it's like you said,
I think it's razor thin at this point, and it
could come down. It could come down to a certain
number of things when those two teams meet. But if
both teams can stay healthy. You know you mentioned Will Hammon,
We're gonna see Will Hammond maybe even again this week.
Speaker 4: Or is Baron Morton gonna be back? He's listed to
day to day.
Speaker 3: You know who's the hot hand going forward? Be interested
to see how that's gonna play out long term for
them or going forward for the rest of the season.
Speaker 4: Both great quarterbacks. But man, if you had I think
it's a coin flip.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get to the slight of games this week,
starting in the Big Twelve Conference, then we'll go to
the SEC after that. Tom the Sunflower Showdown eleven am on.
Speaker 2: T and T Disgusting T and T. They No Drama.
Speaker 1: KU at four and three K State at three and
four k you favored three and a half.
Speaker 2: Tom. This game here for the Jayhawks.
Speaker 1: This is an opportunity to end the streak, in the pain,
the suffering, the misery, and there's no excuse this time.
You know, all these years Tom that k you lost
the K State I think almost every game in that streak,
they were never the better team than K State. Maybe
they were the better coach team, but they were never
the more talented team. This year, I think, without question,
they are the more talented team this You know, the
last few years when they've lost this game, I was
saying to myself, like, you know, it sucks, but we
lost to.
Speaker 2: A better team.
Speaker 1: That's not the case in twenty twenty five. There's just
no excuse this go round. I think the pressure is
han Kansas. You came short against Missou. Lance Leipold, it's
been a little bit since he's had a big time
winning KU.
Speaker 2: I love Lance.
Speaker 1: I know you're a Lance fan too, but I mean
it hasn't felt right in Jalen Daniels. This is his
last shot against K State before he's.
Speaker 2: Done in Lawrence.
Speaker 1: This this feels like I know that getting back to
a bowl game and all that stuff is important. But
to me, I feel like this Saturday, since it seems
like they're not going to go to the Big twelve
championship game either, this feels like KU season is right
here is trying to get a win against K State,
and I think they will.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think you you look at KU and you look
at the schedule from the beginning, you think, okay, maybe
two games you circle is the one against Maszoo and
then obviously circle one against K State.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately didn't beat Maszoo.
Speaker 3: Now with Big twelve Championship seemingly out of the picture, uh,
this is your this is your game of the year
now and so long, you know, for so long it's
been K State k qualk game for them. H I
think this is the year. I think you're right that
the KU could do it. I mean KSE State has
been very up and down all year. KU at the
beginning of the year looked great. They've had their moments,
good and bad. But I think you're right. I think
I think this is the year Lance slide pull. They
can get it done, and I think they'll beat K
State this year.
Speaker 1: In all honesty, if it's not this year, then win
is it. I mean, it's the best opportunity by far.
You gotta get it done. This is no excuse. You're
at home too. Gotta get it done.
Speaker 2: By U Tana Iowa State.
Speaker 1: We talked about earlier. I would stay shorten ended at
a corner. They're just hanging on for dear life. At
five and two, BYU just look really good. At seven
and zero, Ames is not an easy place to play, though.
Rock Obec is a very talented quarterback. I like BYU here, Tom,
but we've seen Iowa State's offense put up points here
if if if you're BYU, with the deficiencies of the
secondary of Iowa State, it's it's all about just getting
that passing game rocking and taking advantage of that.
Speaker 2: I think that's what they got to do, and I
think they should be able to do that.
Speaker 4: I think so too.
Speaker 3: You know, Iowa State kind of injury bug corners out.
He said at the beginning of the year. They had
some new wide receivers that needed to grow up fast. Rocklebec,
I think is a great quarterback. I think they're going
to run into buzzsa on BYU this weekend.
Speaker 1: Though, Texas Tech taking out Oklahoma State we'll keep this
under thirty seconds here. I don't know who's playing quarterback
for Texas Tech. They're going up against bad OSU team
this one.
Speaker 2: Hide the women and children.
Speaker 1: OSU's got a former receiver played and quarterback here. I mean,
nothing feels good about this for Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2: For Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: I would say Tom that coming off that lost Arizona State,
if you're looking for a get right game, looking get
back on track, doesn't get any better than this opportunity
right here than returning home the tortillas. Though, I guess
k you killed the tradition because Kirby Hocutt. They're ad
and their head coach Joe McGuire have said that they
do not want the tortilla tradition to continue, that they
have two much at stake. They do not want to
take out one hundred thousand dollars fine and then potential
penalties to follow after that. So Kau killed it, and
I guess we live in the posts tortilla era. Now
going forward to Texas Tech, Tom, Another note too, Texas
Tech and OSU each had some of their biggest rivals
leave the Big Twelve in recent years, with of course
OU leaving for the SEC and Texas leaving for the SEC.
Speaker 2: Always you in Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: I know, their history kind of just goes back to
ninety six with this iteration of the Big Twelve, but
with both of them doing the the guns up or
pistols firing thing. You know, you know Western schools of
sorts that they've tried to kind of manufacture this into
a rivalry of sorts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think it's a little bit better than
the whatever you and Tulsa has the Turnpike Classic. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's you know, for all intents and purposes, should be
called like the Doctor Pepper Shootout Bowl or something, right,
you know, I don't think they have Doctor Pepper Shootouts and.
Speaker 2: The tortillas versus the cheese fries.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, they can play it up.
Speaker 3: I think it has a lot more potential than Oklahoma
State and Tulsa. But yeah, the tortilla's up. It's kind
of a funny thing. I mean, it's like an infamous
type thing for them. I think for Oklahoma State this week,
maybe you see some OSU fans instead of dressing up
like a banana this week, they'll dress up like a
Tech fan and and and bring a forty pack of
mission tortillas in the renderwear. That's the only way Oklahoma
State wins this week.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati taking on Baylor. Cincinnati three and a half point favorites.
Tom Baylor could put up points. I like Sincy team,
and I liked him at home, but I think this
is gonna be a close game.
Speaker 2: I leaned towards Cinci though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know what I said about Cincy. I'm
riding hard with the Bearcats Boz.
Speaker 1: TCU taking on West Virginia TCU fifteen and a half
point favorites in Morgantown, Hoover and the horn Frogs trying
to become both eligible. Tom already said he's hard. Let's
see how al horny he's feeling about TCU.
Speaker 4: Now. I like TCU. They beat Baylor last week.
Speaker 3: Not I wouldn't call it handily, but they took care
of business and that their little rivalry games.
Speaker 4: So I like TCU here for sure.
Speaker 1: Houston taking on twenty fourth ranked Arizona State. The Cougars
are six and one Arizona State's five and two. Arizona
State seven and a half point favorites here Tom Arizona
State nice win last week against Tech. Houston, great story
Willie Fritz getting that team ball eligible and everything, but
I still don't think Houston's that great of a football team.
I think they're just well coached. I like Arizona State
at home here just fine. I think they can cover
seven and a half too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: You know, Arizona State pretty happy coming off a win
against Tech. I think they ride that momentum pause.
Speaker 1: Colorado take it on Utah a little big twelve after
dark action on Saturday night. Utah thirteen and a half
point favorites at home. Colorado's had their issues this season,
particularly at the quarterback position. Utah trying to get back
on track after that loss to BYU. I think b White,
I think Utah here takes care of business. I like
him to win and cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Utah, I think they're going to bounce back after
that loss to BYU, and they they'll come ready to
play wing, ready to play do the sec.
Speaker 1: We go ole miss taking out oh Oklahoma. Both teams
six and one eleven point favorites. The line keeps moving up,
by the way. O U was like a one and
a half point favorite. Now it's up to five and
a half Chambliss is starting at quarterback for Ole Miss
this week. I know that, uh, you know, they're they're
start at the beginning of the year. He's been cleared
to play, but they like what they've seen from him.
He looks like a Heisman contender former you know, two
time national champion at the D two level.
Speaker 2: I mean, great story. But OU's defense look phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Last week on the road against South Carolina, Matier looked better.
Speaker 2: The run game started to come to life as well.
Speaker 1: It's a tough stretch of games coming up down the
stretch for the Sooners, but weather's not gonna be too
kind in Norman. I think the Sooners aren't gonna be
too kind to Old Miss. I expect a close game,
but Old Miss their their defense has got some issues
when it comes to defending the run and and uh
and all that. I think, uh, I think, oh, you
can can win this one. Uh you know, I would
say it's it's close for three quarters. And then we
talked about John mctiern company. You know, they get that
run game going and they pull away late in the
fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: I like, oh you at Hometown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 3: They bounced back after a lost in Texas and had
a pretty good win against the South Carolina team.
Speaker 4: I think, oh, you can continue that.
Speaker 3: I think with Tier gets a little bit better each
week post injury, and I think, oh, he keeps.
Speaker 4: The ball wrong.
Speaker 1: How about this eleven forty five Auburn taking on Arkansas
Tom Arkansas. I liked him at home as the three
and a half point favorites. And I'll add one more
to you. We say goodbye to Hugh Freeze. I think
that this is the win. This is a good win
for Bobby helped strengthen his case to be that that
head coach.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be good in off, but.
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll help him at least, but it's gonna
be good enough to say goodbout it Hugh Freez.
Speaker 4: Finally, yeah, I think so we might.
Speaker 3: We might see a happy trails and you know, maybe
for all this trouble, they'll maybe name a drink after him,
like the Hugh Freeze Margarita or something.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He might be headed for somewhere where there's cold, freezy
drinks after this week.
Speaker 1: Bama taking on South Carolina. South Carolina looked bad last week,
and so you at home. They're at home this week.
Against Bamabama six and one. South Carolina's three and four,
Bama's eleven and a half point favorites. Ty Simpson's been rocking.
Bama has been playing some really good football. I don't
think this is gonna be close. I think Bama's gonna
roll here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm all in on Bama.
Speaker 3: They've They've won some tough games and showed some real grit,
and I think they're poised to keep the train rolling
and make the SEC Championship game.
Speaker 1: Number fifteen Missouri taking out number ten vander Both teams
six and one college game days going to Nashville for this.
Diego Pavia he's been fantastic. I'm believing I'm buying what
he's selling. Missou did not look that good last week,
as alwared Tom, I could see this going either way.
I've been impressed with both these teams. I think both
teams have overachieved. But I like what Diego and company
is doing the way they handled LSU and them being
at home here probably the biggest home game in school history.
Speaker 2: I go Vandy in a very tight game here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too, though.
Speaker 3: If this was that, if this was in Colombia, I
would be almost more apt to take missoo here.
Speaker 4: I think it's that close. Vandy.
Speaker 3: What a story, what a continued story here for them?
You beat LSU last week, made me look bad, and
now you got a tough Miszoo team. I think Vandy.
I do believe v Andy gets it done. Who's the
guest picker this week?
Speaker 4: This would have been the week to take theovon. Uh,
they can't double.
Speaker 1: Up Nate bar Gates or whatever his name is, the comedian.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well he maybe a little bit lackluster to
the the O, but you already you already punched that
ticket once.
Speaker 4: So yeah, should be should be a hell of a
game day there.
Speaker 3: I think we talked about the Titans in NFL last
week on how Nashville could be a football city, and uh,
you know this Vanderbilt team could maybe beat cam Ward
than Titans.
Speaker 4: You think maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: Texas State on Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: Mississippi State gave Florida all they could handle last week,
was good enough for Billy Napier to lose his job.
Texas barely barely beats Kentucky can overtime. Last week. Arch
did not play that great. They're going into Starkville. All
the cow bells and all Jeff Levy's team has been
better than I think we all thought. At four and three,
Texas at five and two, Texas seven and a half
point favorites in this game, Tom, I don't think this
is gonna.
Speaker 2: Be easy for Texas. I think they win. I think
this is another close game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3: A little close for comfort against Kentucky, but I think
it'll be close. But I agreed Texas still pull it out.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M number three in the country going
to Death Valley take on number twenty LSU. So much
hype and excitement about LSU this year with nus Meyer
and Harold Perkins, and you lose last week to Vandy,
and now you're taking on top three team and Texas
A and M, who's undefeated. Marcel Reid's been fantastic. A
and M's doing everything right. I love the way they're playing.
Speaker 2: LSU. Season is on the line here. Third loss, you're out,
You're done. When it comes to Kyle Shall playoff A
and M. I'll ride the Dente shout out Chili's I
think they keep.
Speaker 1: The momentum mirror. I think they're a better football team.
LSU has got a lot of problems. I like Brian
Kelly as a coach, but he's just an odd fit
at LSU, and I think we're starting to see that
again here in year four with him. Maybe he looks
to move on elsewhere one of those job openings we
talked about potentially speaking.
Speaker 2: But I think A and M keeps.
Speaker 1: The momentum going and we put the curtains on LSU
season here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. And I've been calling for
an A and M choke for the past few weeks.
Speaker 4: I will call for it here.
Speaker 3: Maybe some reverse psychology or reverse without the universe type
of thing. But LSU has just not really been impressive.
Speaker 4: They haven't. There's not really been one game.
Speaker 3: I don't think that I've said, oh, she looks like
then boys, they don't. There's not been a game for
them that I said, Damn. I believe in LSU.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Youre Tennessee taking out Kentucky Tennessee five
and two, seventeenth in the country, Kentucky two and four.
Speaker 2: It was the same song and dance for.
Speaker 1: Kentucky last week against Texas tom so close but not
close enough.
Speaker 2: Finding another way to lose.
Speaker 1: Mark stoops every damn time, and this week taking on
Tennessee Joey Aguilar, you know, he turns the football over
enough that Kentucky can make this a close game. But
it's one of those deals where if you're a betting man,
I think I take Kentucky to cover every time, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Not picking them money line.
Speaker 1: I would take Kentucky to cover as an eight and
a half point underdog, but I'm not expecting him to
win this game. I think Tennessee wins. I expect this
game to be kind of ugly looking, kind of gross.
Kentucky keeps it interesting, but See finds the way to
win at on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they could make an interesting but you
know the way Tennessee's playing, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think they falter here.
Speaker 3: I think they take care of business and and I
wouldn't even call it find a way to win. I
think they just will. And I think they'll have control
of the game from from starting to finish. Thought, I
bet it will be a little closer than closer than
what should be.
Speaker 4: If you're a Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Fan, marta cop on the program I know Tom likeson.
Speaker 4: When I say program program every time.
Speaker 2: I know, shout out Pat McAfee and Chad Wiberg for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, We'll be joined by Jake Ripma of the Fan
in Dallas and the Lockdown Podcast Network coming up on
the other side.
Speaker 2: Stay with us, shoin us now, he is quite the
busy man.
Speaker 1: It is our old buddy Jake Ripma from the Fan
in Dallas. Also the Lockdown Detroit podcast Network covering all
things with the Dallas teams and the Detroit teams, and
he joints us right now, Ramo. Always pleasure when we
get the chance to chat my friend, and I don't
know what I can get away with saying yet, but
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we are on the same team again.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I love it, dude. Let's just say this. I
wanted to wear this Lockdown hat in your honor, so
a future high five fist pump will definitely break bread
at the appropriate time, maybe have some cigars too. But
it's always a pleasure being on the Jones Report my friend,
and even better, I get to hang out with you
and shot chat a little college football, NFL and anything else, my.
Speaker 2: Guy, Yes, no question about it. Uh, Ramo. Let's start
with the college football side of things. In our backyard,
the neck of Woods.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at, you know, our local teams, and I
gotta start with Texas A and M at this point.
Speaker 2: You know they've been rolling.
Speaker 1: Mike Elko's got a good squad there. I like what
I've seen from more sell Raid at the quarterback position.
Are you are you buying or selling from what we've
seen from Texas A and M so far.
Speaker 5: No, It's so funny you asked me this at this time,
because up until pretty much the last two weeks, I
just was hesitant to buy in. And it wasn't anything
specific with because I've been a fan of Marcel Reed.
I think he's a dynamic player. He proved that he
can win big games and get it done through the air.
That receiving corps has been really, really impressive and rather
deep as well. A couple of D two transfers on
that receiving corps as well, and I just, for whatever reason,
wasn't quite ready to plant the flag that hey, this
Aggie's team is for real. And now I feel like
I've gone one hundred and eighty degrees and I don't
know if there's one specific thing I can point to
other than I listen to Mike Elco's press conferences every
single week. I believe I'm buying what he's selling. He
was the perfect higher. I think he's all in on
Texas A and M football, And not that it's a
sleeping giant by any means, because you know, they have
plenty of resources and everything else of a major power
program in the SEC, but it just hasn't happened yet
for Texas A and M. And this is the best
start since nineteen ninety four, so maybe this will finally
be the year that they break through. And you know,
it's a gauntlet of a schedule, another big one Saturday
Night against the LSU Tigers. But yeah, I'm buying Texas
A and M. I think they're for real and I
think they can not only make some noise in the postseason,
but ultimately be among one of those teams that is
in real consideration to be the last team standing.
Speaker 1: You know, they play LSU this week, didn't you get Miszoo,
South Carolina, Samford? And then of course they wrap up
with the lone Star showdown against Texas There. I feel like,
if you are a team like A and M or
some of these other teams in the SEC. You're just
essentially saying to yourself, Okay, we can we can give
ourselves two losses, but beyond that then we just don't know,
like if it's gonna be good enough or not. And
if you're A and M, like looking at those five
games remaining, you know, you could lose LSU this week
and then lose Missoo.
Speaker 2: Or Texas, whatever it may be, and you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I think you look at that schedule and say, really,
that's three tough games out of five and you have
to win you know, two of those or really just
one of those three. I think they're in a great
spot for when it comes to the playoff picture.
Speaker 5: No, you're absolutely correct, And arguably my least favorite saying
in sports is we're playing with house money. I just
get It just makes my skin crawl, because no coach,
no competitor thinks that way. But us, you know, us
jokers in the media can start to piece the puzzle
together and say, yeah, they're playing with house money because
they've put themselves in such a such a favorable position
based on the body of work up into this point.
But the second you take your foot off in the
gas in the SEC. I don't think Sandford can sneak
up on the Texas Maggi's with that schedule. But you know,
there's the last thing Mike Elkoh and that team is
talking about right now, is hey, we can still afford
a loss here, a loss there. But like I said,
you know, we can piece the schedule together and say
they're in a really good spot and got to be,
you know, a team that you would basically bet the
house on making the college football playoffs at this point.
Speaker 2: So there are tribal Texas definitely not playing with house money.
Speaker 1: Almost lost to Kentucky last week in overtime after a
dominating win against Oklahama, And.
Speaker 2: You know, I look at that team, Rima, and I
feel like they're they're on.
Speaker 1: Thin, thin ice, that that third loss is coming sooner
than later, and there might be a fourth, who knows,
maybe even a fifth. The one thing that bodes well
for Texas though, even though Arch hasn't played that great
and they've had their question marks on the offensive line,
the their schedule down the stretch is pretty favorable. But
I think that Kentucky game last week showed us that
nothing to guarantee with him.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. And it's an interesting discussion that I
think a lot of Texas fans are having, and certainly
college football talking heads of Sarkasian's role in all this.
And Sarka is the play caller. He was asked about
it as at his weekly press conference and he just
basically said, that's what I do. That's why I was
hired to be the head coach at Texas. I'm not,
you know, relieving myself of play calling duties because I
am a play caller. And even though you know, he
went on about how some years you're going to be
led by your defense, some years are going to be
led by the offense, and so on and so forth,
But it doesn't take a football genius to recognize that
this Texas team has really fallen short in every aspect
on the offensive side of the football, and it's only
a matter of time before those shortcomings lead to a
third loss that would be you know, catastrophic to the
entire season, and that, like you said, they've been on
thin ice and they really haven't done anything up until
this point to you know, put forth any type of
belief for their fan base. That this is a team
that's going to live up to the preseason expectations. Obviously,
the preseason expectations where the number one team in the land,
so by that definition, you got to win it all.
But nobody, and I mean nobody saw this coming from
the Texas Longhorns to being a shell of themselves or
what we thought they might be. And like you said,
I think it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 2: When it comes to arch Rama.
Speaker 1: Do you think the problems that he's faced are more
due to these circumstances around him or more self inflicted.
Speaker 2: What's kind of your evaluation where he stands right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've gone back and watched a couple of Texas's games,
and obviously not the entire games, but in short segments
and whatnot, and it just it appears like it is
a uni wide issue and that it's not all on
one guy. But at the same time, if you pair
the lack of production with the preseason hype and listen,
maybe the media is to blame and that's always an
easy scapegoat. But the guy is the preseason Heisman favorite,
so we're going to have those types of blinders on
when we look at this offense, and it starts with
the quarterback, but up front they haven't been the same.
They lost so many important contributors up front, they lose
a lot of dynamic playmaking abilities. And we all love
a coach cliche here that football is the ultimate team game.
Football is the ultimate team game. You need all eleven
guys functioning on that offense to be a unit, and
not everybody doing their one eleventh is ultimately going to
reflect on the quarterback, and I think the Florida game
is a good example of that, where he was under duress.
And whether it's the timing of routes, it's the inability
to establish a running game, it's the really complete failure
at the point of attack, at the line of scrimmage,
all of those you chalk up to a failing offense,
and that's what we're seeing. But the easiest kind of
diagnosis is, hey, Arch is just not pulling his weight
and he's not as good as we might have thought
he was. And all those can be true. You know,
two things can be true, that Arch was overhyped, but
at the same time, all eleven guys offensively are not
pulling their own weight. For the Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Jake Riba right now here on the
program this week from the Fan in Dallas and also
the Lockdown Detroit Network all things college football. Right now
another rival. Let's go from Texas to Oklahoma. I've gotten
to see this team in person this year, and Jake,
I gotta tell you, I love this defense. I love
John Materia quarterback spot. I thought that he looked better
and you've got a little bit more of the rust
off that week against South Carolina. But the thing that
I worry when it comes to the Sooners Rima is
that schedule is as tough as any team in the country.
There's just no room foreerror. And then on top of
that too, like I know, the defense is so good,
but that Oklahoma team cannot afford to get in the shootout.
Speaker 2: They don't have a good enough run game.
Speaker 1: You know, they have some decent receivers, but I don't
think they can go score forty.
Speaker 2: Points on anybody.
Speaker 1: Maybe the defense avoids them from getting in those circumstances,
but to me, I think those things, you know, the
lack of explosion that offense is is going to hold
this team back from potentially, you know, being that that
that playoff team here, what do you.
Speaker 2: Think of where the Sooners are at right now?
Speaker 5: No, that's a good point, and it's it's kind of
ancient history at this point. But you know, jumping the
time machine with me, go all the way back to
that game against Michigan early in the season. I thought
that was the perfect game plan. And obviously I'll look
at it from a Michigan standpoint, where their game plan
was absolutely archaic and they didn't let Bryce Young. I mean,
they kept the training wheels on them. But that mold
of playing really good defense for four quarters and letting
John Mattier and that offensive line lean on the opposition,
wear them down, wear them down, and eventually kind of
like you know, to use a cheesy analogy, like a
Boa constrictor or Ana Conder. I don't know my snakes
very well, Tyler Jones. I'll work on that, but whatever
snake you know, suffocates you by the end. That's what
this Oklahoma game plan should be. Where you play great
defense and John Mattier in that rushing attack, it's going
lean on the opposition, and by the fourth quarter you
got John Mattier, you look up and he's ran for
over one hundred yards. He's got a couple of scores,
and you've won this one by a couple of possessions.
So now is that easier said than done? Absolutely? I
think this week, let's just start there. My goodness, Ole
Miss and Oklahoma playing in a it's you know, another
week in the SEC. But you got this Ole Miss
Rebels team coming off a game they a lot of
people could say they should have won based on how
well they played in that first half against Georgia. And
you know, a dynamic offense obviously led by Trinidad Chambliss
at quarterback there and Lane Kiffin and and obviously he's
you know, one of the hottest topics in college football.
But I mean this is this is I would say
an opportunity for the Sooners to really really take a
huge step forward. Sure, but at the same time, you've
got an upset on this team coming into town that
has has a lot to prove.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, no question about it.
Speaker 1: Uh Ramon Another team within our area and the Texas
Tech Red Raiders suffered their first loss the season last
week at the hands of Arizona State. I know that,
you know they were without Morton the quarterback and they
played Hammond and haven't played didn't play too bad actually
in that loss. But we know what they've invested the
way they started. You're talking to people every day on
radio in Dallas. What's what's kind of the excitement level
or are you sensing like real buy in from whether
it's Texas Tech people or even just your own self
like that this feels like a legit team here? Do
you think that we're talking not just in the big
twelve picture, but can they be a real playoff threat here?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? And all season long. This is my shameless plug
for my college football show on Saturday mornings on one
O five to three The Fan Fan University make sure
you check it out. But one of our co hosts
hosts a Texas Tech specific football show and has you know,
had the opportunity to have Joey McGuire on his show.
We've had Joey McGuire on our show on the Fan,
and you know what better person to go to straight
straight to the horse's mouth, you know, straight to straight
to the source. And they absolutely believe in everything they're
doing there and love it. And whether it's the fan base,
the coaching staff and everywhere in between. This is a
one hundred percent buy in. And I've said all season long,
the Texas Tech Red Raiders of twenty twenty five are
going to prove to be the case study for athletics
and not just the football team either. Look at how
much they've invested in the softball team out here, buying players.
But that's the new age of college athletics, for better
or for worse. And that's a whole other conversation for
a different day. But I do believe that that loss
in Tempee against a good Arizona State team that was
a little bit healthier than this Texas Tech team. Not
to make excuses by any means, but I think it
was a slip up shore and I think this Texas
Tech team will be back. And the Big Twelve is
a fascinating race in and of itself because you've got
an undefeated BYU team, You've got an undefeated in the
conference Cincinnati team with Scott Saturdyfield and everything he's done
for Cincinnati, and a lot of teams in that one loss,
one conference loss, that's just nipping at their heels waiting
for the next team to slip up. So a lot
of really quality football being played in the Big Twelve.
It's anybody's conference right now. But at the same time,
I feel really if I were a Texas Tech and
maybe it's just because I've been brainwashed by the Texas
Tech Red Raider crew that I am in contact with regularly.
And at the same time, it's easy to buy into
and I think the Red Raiders will make a lot
of noise this postseason.
Speaker 1: All right, last thing in the college football front here, Raemon,
We've talked a lot about the local teams, but we
still have any touch on everybody yet, whether it's Baylor, SMU, TCU,
maybe you want to go even North Texas potentially. Who
is somebody we haven't talked about today that catches you're
on that we should be talking about.
Speaker 5: All Right, I got a couple for you, Tyler Jones.
You know I love all levels of football, So I
got to give a shout out to the eight and
o Tarleton State Texans. How about that number three in
the country for fcs, and they'll be higher because this
weekend number one versus number two. It's an absolute shame
that college game Day is not at the North Dakota
State South Dakota State Battle but one of those teams
is going to lose this weekend, so that means Tarleton State,
assuming they again they're eight no, will continue to climb
up those rankings. We had a chance to talk to
Todd Whitten, their head coach, on our show Fan University.
He was awesome, a legend he's been there forever. The
Charleston State story is fascinating. They are at one time
in nai school without a conference, then to the Division
two ranks, now onto Division one. It's really a great
story if you're into all that. Now that's my one
off that you weren't expecting. I think what Eric Morris
has done at North Texas has been really, really impressive.
Now they got exposed a little bit on national TV
a couple weeks ago against South Florida. The Bulls are
probably that group of five sweetheart everybody's in love with,
and rightfully so. But Memphis losing and an upset bid
to UAB last week really continues to open the door
in the American Conference. Now, North Texas still needs some
things to happen and South Florida to lose. South Florida
and Memphis will play, so that's their only hope there.
But North Texas still has an outside chance to be
one of those one loss conference champions that maybe finds
their way to a playoff appearance. But SMU, too, everything's
in front of them in the ACC. With Miami losing
to Louisville, SMU technically controls their own destiny. They're gonna
play Miami at home next weekend. They've got Wake Forest
this weekend. But Rhet Lashley is one of my favorite
coaches in the country. Obviously, he's been linked to some
big jobs with that Arkansas opening, being a lum of Arkansas,
so that's something to keep your eye on. But man,
I could just go on and on for hours. Tyler
Jones about all the compelling storylines in college football, whether
it's locally all across the great, great country of the
United States of America.
Speaker 2: I love it. The life is better with football.
Speaker 5: This is my Dallas Cowboys at and t setup. I
have the sun shining in and blinding me, just like
the Dallas Cowboys do at this time every every Sunday
for home games.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Jake, appreciate the time, my friend. We'll talk getting down
the line. Thanks for trying us.
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure, My pleasure Man
Speaker 4: Four,