1 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. 2 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Let's Ask Paul, the podcast 3 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,479 where you get to ask me Paul Abernathy anything you 4 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,039 want about the National Electrical Code of course, all things 5 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:48,240 electrically related. So this episode today, I want to get 6 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,799 this out of the way. This episode today is sponsored 7 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:57,039 by Electrical Code Academy directly and that is for our 8 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:01,600 retail products. So if you want shirts, hats, anything from 9 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:07,680 aster electricians, Journeyman electricians, customized products, engraved products, all those 10 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:12,400 good things, do me a favor, go over to fasttrackssystem 11 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,400 dot com. 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Okay, 20 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:46,799 with that said, let's go on and get into today's topic. 21 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,599 So I have a couple of questions that we're asked today. 22 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,760 Hopefully we can bring some additional clarity to these questions 23 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,680 and get that answered for you. Right, let's see what 24 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:01,959 we got first of the on the agenda today. Okay, 25 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,159 So the first one says, Hey, Paul, former fast track 26 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,319 student here, had a question on two fifty one zero 27 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:16,000 four a metal water piping systems. I guess systems means 28 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,800 both cold and hot. I've always just bonded the cold 29 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,360 side and never had a problem. Recently was called out 30 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:29,800 by a city inspector here in San Antonio for not 31 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,800 bonding the hot water pipe. 32 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: Okay, and that's where you left the question off. 33 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is, again, if you've got 34 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:45,240 your codebooks. If not, pause this audio podcast, grab your codebook. 35 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:47,360 We're gonna be looking at the codebook. I'm gonna be 36 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:51,120 breaking it down for you, explaining what we mean as 37 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,639 far as the NEC is by system. For example, small 38 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,479 little piece of pipe from the point of entry to 39 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,759 let's say, which is over to PVC right there at 40 00:03:01,759 --> 00:03:03,199 the beginning as it comes in the house. 41 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Is not a system. 42 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Okay, that's just a small portion of facilitate from the 43 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:12,280 underground coming in to the actual system that's going all 44 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,599 through the house, which may be PVC so in this case, 45 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,560 not sounds like it's copper everywhere so or something of 46 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:23,360 that nature. So just remember when we say system, we're 47 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,240 talking about the system of the building, not a small segment. 48 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,039 So if I had little pieces of metal piping somewhere, 49 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,800 that wouldn't constitute a system. Right, Get that out of 50 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,520 the way first, and then well, of course we'll go 51 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,360 look at the code. Okay, So you've got your codebooks, 52 00:03:43,439 --> 00:03:46,240 and as I said, we're going to migrate to two 53 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,439 fifty one zero four A, and we're in the twenty 54 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:52,840 twenty three edition of the NEC one because I know it, 55 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:56,039 he said, San Antonio, So that is Texas. So they 56 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:58,680 are definitely on the twenty twenty three. But remember, folks, 57 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:02,599 in future, if you're se ME requests, please let me 58 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:05,120 know what edition of the NEC you're working out of, 59 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:08,800 because there are changes from cycle to cycle, and we 60 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,759 want to make sure that the information that I give 61 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:13,319 you is the most accurate for where you're writing your 62 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,319 question from. It just so happens this one, San Antonio, Texas, 63 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:21,920 So I understand what's being asked here. And in this case, 64 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:26,600 it wouldn't change anything at all on the application because 65 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,120 that has not changed in cycles. So again, whether you're 66 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,199 in the twenty seventeen, twenty twenty, or twenty twenty three, 67 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:35,879 this information is going to be the same. 68 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:37,639 Speaker 2: Okay. 69 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: So two fifty one zero four, which is titled Bonding 70 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:45,680 of piping Systems and Exposed structural Metal. Now we're not 71 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,959 going to be dealing with the exposed structural metal in 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,879 this question. We're going to deal with the metal water piping. 73 00:04:54,439 --> 00:04:57,879 So under a it says the metal water piping system 74 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:01,639 shall be bonded as you're acquired in two fifty one 75 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,720 zero four, A one, A two, or A three. Okay, 76 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,000 so the metal water piping system A one. It says 77 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,000 metal water piping system installed in or attached to a 78 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,839 building or structure shall be bonded to any of the following. 79 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Of course, it gives you a list four different items. 80 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: Here. You can bond it. 81 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,199 Speaker 1: To the service equipment enclosure, so if you knew that 82 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:29,879 or not, but you can go straight from that metal 83 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,439 water pipe system and run it back to what we 84 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,360 run it all the way back to the service equipment 85 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:42,279 enclosure and of course sizing of these you get the instructions. 86 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: After the four list items. 87 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:48,199 Speaker 1: Okay, talking about table two fifty one, zero, two c one, YadA, YadA, YadA. 88 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,040 You get all that, but at this point, let's just 89 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:54,279 focus on the act that's being asked in the question. 90 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: All right, so. 91 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,439 Speaker 1: You get the second location that could you you could 92 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,759 take a metal water piping system two and be compliance 93 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,839 with the bonding is take it to the grounded conductor 94 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,800 at the service at the service, not a remote distribution 95 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,160 at the service. The third is you could take it 96 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,240 to the grinding electrode conductor for that service provided is 97 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,800 a sufficient size. So as long as its size meets 98 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,959 the requirements for the bonding jumper that's later in the 99 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,439 after item number four, then you could do that. And 100 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,120 then of course the fourth item is one or more 101 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,120 grinding electrodes used if the grounding electrode conductor or bonding 102 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:42,560 jumper to the grounding electrode is of sufficient size. Okay, 103 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,319 so you have multiple options here to bond that metal 104 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:50,959 water piping system. Now the question was raised, do you 105 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 do the cold water at the hut water well. That's 106 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,720 going to entirely depend on the continuity of your connection. 107 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,000 In other words, if you have a cold water pipe 108 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,959 and it goes to a water heater and then it 109 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 goes through a dielectric union over too, So there is 110 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,199 no intimate connection between the metal piping on the cold 111 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:16,839 water side as it is on the hot water side. 112 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Then you would have to jumper those two together. You 113 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,000 wouldn't just stop it bonding the cold if you're not 114 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,600 also making a connection to the warm side. Remember now 115 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:31,639 that warm side of the water heater is going out 116 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 in the system, the water piping system to the hot 117 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,279 side of all your fausets and whatnot, no different than 118 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:43,000 the cold side is. And so in many cases you 119 00:07:43,079 --> 00:07:47,519 may in your system somewhere have this intimacy of the 120 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:53,120 piping system through a manifold, through something that connects both 121 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,160 the hot and cold together, so that basically forget that 122 00:07:56,199 --> 00:08:00,000 it's hot and cold. It's the metal water piping side 123 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,319 system regardless of being hot or cold. Now, if you 124 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,319 can't ensure that there is some type of continuity or 125 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:10,120 unity between the cold side and the hot side, then 126 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:12,360 what most people do is they will just do it 127 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:16,480 at the most convenient location. If that system happens to 128 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,360 be a metal water piping system, then they'll just go 129 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:22,079 to the cold water pipe and then jump over to 130 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,839 the hot water pipe and be done. 131 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: With it. 132 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,879 Speaker 1: That way, you don't have to worry about whether or 133 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:29,600 not this is taking place at any of the falsets 134 00:08:29,839 --> 00:08:32,480 or anywhere else in the system, right because you can 135 00:08:32,519 --> 00:08:34,720 get into those arguments with the inspector and they're like, 136 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,200 prove it. So rather than get into the weeds of that, 137 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:39,279 just do it right there. 138 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: Now. 139 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:43,879 Speaker 1: Some people say, well, what if it's PVC and all 140 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,879 I have is stub ups of copper pipe for example, 141 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:49,399 hot and cold? Do I have to bond those? Absolutely not. 142 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:57,159 Those little pieces do not constitute a piping system right now. 143 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,840 If you don't believe me, then one of the things 144 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:03,320 you can do is again it's kind of like getting 145 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,200 an informal interpretation, is it goes into detail in Link now. 146 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,200 Link is a product by NFPA. Years ago we did PDFs, 147 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,039 they're gone now now we use Link. I love it 148 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,559 better than using PDFs. People might think it's not as convenient, 149 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,679 but I think it is because basically I've got Link 150 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,240 on everything, my home computer, my phones, my tablets. You 151 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:31,039 pay for the annual subscription and you take it anywhere 152 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:33,360 with You can't get any better than that, and you're 153 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:37,960 helping support NFPA, And so they're the ones that'll bring 154 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:40,840 all this information together and publish it for your ease 155 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,840 of being able to have access to it. That's you know, 156 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,799 they got to get paid for that. So now if 157 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:49,919 you look at the enhanced content, it says very clearly, 158 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,159 and I'm going to read this to you now at 159 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 the end, this is no different interpretation than I may 160 00:09:55,399 --> 00:09:58,639 have that somebody else may have. But when you get 161 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,519 somebody that's been doing this for thirty eight plus years 162 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,600 and you get NFPA and we agree on something, then 163 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:07,919 there's a high probability that it's accurate. So here's what 164 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,360 it says. It says bonding a metal water piping system 165 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,720 is not the same as using the metal water piping 166 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:18,440 system as a grounding electrode. That is very true. Remember, 167 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,720 the water piping system, whether it's running on the side 168 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:24,440 of the building, outside on the building, or comes into 169 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:27,000 the building, or it's running through the building, is not 170 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,679 the same as the metal water piping that may be 171 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:34,879 out in the ground that qualifies ten feet or more 172 00:10:34,879 --> 00:10:39,840 in contact with you Earth two fifty fifty two A one. 173 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,240 There's a big difference between that right in what we're 174 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,720 dealing with when it comes to a metal water piping system, right, 175 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:49,679 big difference. 176 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,519 Speaker 2: So this is a bonding requirement. So if you have PVC, 177 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:55,480 then you ignore this. 178 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: If you have little pieces of metal that's interposed, okay, 179 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,759 and interposed if you've heard that word means that you 180 00:11:02,799 --> 00:11:05,360 could have plastic, then you put in metal and then 181 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:08,320 it changes back over to plastic. The link of run 182 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,600 was plastic, but you interposed metal by putting it in 183 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,639 the plastic run. 184 00:11:12,799 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So think of it that way. 185 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: That small portion, that small isolated section, okay, is not 186 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,080 going to constitute a water piping system, and it's not 187 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,600 required to be subject to the requirements of two fifty 188 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:34,799 one zero four A. Those isolated sections are not a 189 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:38,519 metal water piping system. A metal water piping system would 190 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,639 be a complete metal water piping systems. My mom's old house, 191 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,360 my mom and dad's house that had galvanized piping, that 192 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:49,799 was a metal water piping system. Today you can get 193 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:53,879 some that are all copper. That's a metal water piping system. 194 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,840 PVC is not. The fittings. May they be metal, that 195 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,279 is not constitute a metal water piping system. And obviously 196 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,440 you don't bond to PVC, although you'd be surprised at 197 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,399 what I see on social media when people try to 198 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,639 bond TVC for some god awful reason. But no, you 199 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,200 don't have to go running around the house trying to 200 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:21,399 bond small isolated sections in your water piping system that 201 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:25,679 may be metal. It's the system in totality, okay, now, 202 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,519 and any bonding jumper through the water piping system is 203 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,120 all those sizes based on two fifty one zero two 204 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:38,919 C one is not required to be larger than three 205 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,480 copper or two point fifty aluminum or copper cloud aluminum 206 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:45,679 if you choose to use that. So we do have 207 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:50,919 sizing instructions. We're given those in two fifty one zero 208 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,600 two A one underneath that. So at the end of 209 00:12:55,639 --> 00:12:58,480 the day, No, you don't run around and bond all 210 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:04,919 these isolated metal piping parts that are in a piping system. Okay, 211 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,960 if it's PVC and you just have some isolated metal pieces, 212 00:13:08,799 --> 00:13:09,919 don't worry about it. 213 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: It's not a deal, not a big deal. 214 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,879 Speaker 1: If it's all copper, then you have to bond the 215 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:18,320 water piping systems. So the key for you in answering 216 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,080 your question is if you're going to cold water, you 217 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,679 have to be assured that the hot side is also bonded. 218 00:13:27,759 --> 00:13:29,879 Now you can do that with a continuity tester. You 219 00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:33,440 can show the inspector this continuity test all those type 220 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,240 of things. If you have the hot water side and 221 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,559 it's all copper, let's say, and you have the hot 222 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,240 water side right next to the cold water, and you're 223 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:44,960 already going to be bonding the cold water, dude, it 224 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,360 might be just in your best interest to just keep 225 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:49,840 on running it through that clamp and go over and 226 00:13:49,879 --> 00:13:51,440 put another clamp on the hot water. 227 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: That way, you don't have. 228 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: To worry because remember, the water piping system constitutes not 229 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,919 just the cold side, but the hot side as well. 230 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:05,399 And again going to the cold side, if you're relying 231 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,799 on it to simply go through the water heater, then 232 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,840 there's a high probability that the hot side is not 233 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,360 intimate with the cold side. So unless it's becoming intimate 234 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:20,320 through fixtures on the plumbing, and you'd have to verify that. 235 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,159 I tell people, look, it may or may not. I 236 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,960 don't really get into the makeup of all the different 237 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,360 types of fixtures, the plumbing fixtures, the manifolds. 238 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't get into that. I'm not a plumber. 239 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: As an electrician, I can only do what I think, 240 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:36,519 and my thought is if it's all metal and I'm 241 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:39,080 going to the cold water, if the hot water is 242 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,000 right there, you bet your ass, I'm gonna jump over 243 00:14:42,039 --> 00:14:42,279 to it. 244 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: And in that way I. 245 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:47,879 Speaker 1: Remove any question from anybody for compliance to two fifty 246 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:50,759 one zero four A. I'm just getting it out of 247 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:53,399 the way. As I tell people all the time, you do, 248 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:56,440 you boo. But at the end of the day, I 249 00:14:56,559 --> 00:14:59,519 have to know at some point that there is another 250 00:14:59,639 --> 00:15:04,320 intimate connection somewhere on that metal order piping system that's 251 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,759 going to make my direct connection to both the hot 252 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:12,600 and cold water sides irrelevant. And the only way to 253 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,679 do that is to show it, don't assume it, and 254 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,519 if you're in doubt, then work it out, and that 255 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:22,480 means going and run it to both. All right, hopefully 256 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:25,519 I've answered your question now. The reason you may have 257 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:29,519 gotten away with it before because maybe the inspector knows 258 00:15:29,559 --> 00:15:33,080 that there was an intimate contact somewhere. There's redundancy somewhere 259 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,440 that maybe it's through the manifolds or through the fixtures 260 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,799 itself or something, and they're assuming that, I guess, and 261 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,440 they're not giving you a problem. The problem is you 262 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:47,879 ran into an inspector who says, show me, and again, 263 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,960 every jurisdiction is a little different. San Antonio is a 264 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:56,039 bit presnickty. So you know what I would just you know, 265 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,000 I'd say, okay, well, I've never had to do it 266 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,759 anywhere else. If you can show continuity from one side 267 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,080 to the other, and easy to do this right there 268 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,840 at the location. Just take your probe and continuity and 269 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:09,080 touch one to the cold water pipe and one to 270 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,639 the hot and if it rings out, then you know 271 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:15,320 somewhere in the system they're intimate. If it's not, then 272 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,919 it went in doubt. Bond it out. Dude, I made 273 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:21,320 that up right on the fly, went in doubt, bonded out. 274 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,039 Speaker 2: How do you like that? 275 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: All right? Hopefully answered that question for you. But again 276 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:31,360 remember small little sections of metal piping in a plastic 277 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,360 system does not constitute you having to bond all these 278 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,159 damn little parts. Okay, let's get that out of the way. 279 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:40,480 And if you don't believe me again, just go to 280 00:16:40,559 --> 00:16:42,480 link that's put out by n FPA, and then the 281 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:46,679 enhanced content basically tells you that word for word. All right, 282 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:51,600 what's the next question for today? Let's see here it says, Hey, Paul, 283 00:16:51,799 --> 00:16:55,200 been listening to your podcasts and watching your videos for years. 284 00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:58,960 I decided to get my license, and now I need 285 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,600 to know how to study the way that you study. 286 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,039 What advice can you give me? Okay, folks, on the 287 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,440 prospect of the fact that this is going to sound 288 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:14,759 let's see here like a commercial, you know, one of 289 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:19,079 those things. I am going to say what I always say. 290 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,799 No matter who you use to study the National Metrical Code, 291 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,759 you can waste a shitload of time by simply thumbing 292 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:29,759 through the NEC and thinking that you're studying what's going 293 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:32,279 to be on the exam when you really have no 294 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,119 clue what is going to be on an exam. So 295 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,799 the only way to raise your odds of success, which 296 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,559 ultimately you will be successful even if you're studying on 297 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:46,160 your own, it just takes you multiple attempts, frustration, probably 298 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,000 a lot more money than necessary. God sakes, folks, do 299 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,440 not do these cram courses that you pay one thousand 300 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,799 bucks for a weekend or something like it. God's sakes, 301 00:17:54,839 --> 00:17:58,000 please don't do that. You can spend a third of 302 00:17:58,079 --> 00:18:02,319 that and truly learn the and since our courses don't 303 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,920 expire when it comes to the twenty twenty or the 304 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,640 twenty twenty three. It's almost like you always have a 305 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,519 consultant in your pocket because of our new fast Tracks 306 00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:14,599 Interact feature that we have on our on our products. 307 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,079 Say it's only available on the twenty twenty and twenty 308 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,480 twenty three products, but look, I encourage you to get 309 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:25,559 a structured study plan, something that's going to at the 310 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,039 least walk you through units from the beginning, giving you 311 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:30,440 a little bit of history of the NEC. 312 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: And when we say. 313 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,839 Speaker 1: Front matter, we mean the front couple pages of the NEEC. 314 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,640 Understanding that what code cycles, of why they've went to 315 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,240 three year cycles, they didn't always be that way, Learning 316 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:45,119 a little bit about the history of NFPA, a little 317 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,119 bit about the history of the NEEC, because you never 318 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,920 know what's going to be on an exam. So we 319 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,559 take you from the beginning and we walk you through 320 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,000 nineteen units. We give you competency reviews to check yourself. 321 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,599 If you struggle with these reviews, you need to stop 322 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,759 dropping baby right back into the program again and reread 323 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:07,440 the material. At any point there's something you don't understand 324 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:11,279 or it's not clear, then use the fast Tracks Interact feature. 325 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,079 Cut and paste it right in there, take a picture 326 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:17,640 of it if you want screen capture, PLoP it in 327 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,759 there and you will get an answer from me. Uh 328 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,279 and maybe other students will chime in as well, so 329 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:25,519 that you all can learn together. That's the beautiful thing 330 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,960 about our Fast Tracks Interact feature course. You can always 331 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,160 go to Paul Abernathy dot com and send us an 332 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,519 email as well. If you're in the twenty seventeen editions 333 00:19:34,519 --> 00:19:36,599 of our programs. That's the only way you can interact 334 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,799 with us that way. They don't have fast Tracks Interact 335 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:43,400 on the twenty seventeen products. But at the end of 336 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,400 the day, you really need a structured program to truly 337 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:49,319 learn the NEC, whether it's mine or somebody else's. The 338 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,000 first question you you'd be asking is is this a 339 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:56,599 structured plan? Do you systematically walk me through the beginning 340 00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:59,440 of the NEC all the way to the most impertinent 341 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:01,599 articles that I need to be aware of for exam 342 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,400 prep and along the way do you teach me calculations? 343 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,079 Will I be able to do a single family dwelling 344 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,839 whether it's a standard or optional method? 345 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: What about a multifamily dwelling? 346 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: Well I learned how to do a commercial building does 347 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,000 your program walk me through those steps? Do they have 348 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,720 forms that have code references on them so that as 349 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:23,160 I'm working the examples, I can fill in the blanks 350 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,920 and read the code references and go in and out 351 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,200 of the codebook, into the course material, into the codebook. 352 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,839 Speaker 2: Does your program have that? 353 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,799 Speaker 1: If they say no, you need to run and check 354 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:37,160 out our fast tracks program. It was designed. It is 355 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,079 a unique system. We're not recreating the wheel here. It's 356 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,960 code is code. You've heard me say this over and 357 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,680 over again. Code is code, but we do it in 358 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,559 a specific way and we support it in a specific 359 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:51,079 way so that you not only get the answers you 360 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,400 need from us, but also you have a more palatable 361 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,200 way to learn a very dry. 362 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: Subject, which is the code. It's dry. 363 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: We try to give you ways, good graphics to be 364 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,960 able to learn that process. Anyway, folks, that's all I've 365 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,079 got today. Hopefully I answers your question. Good luck no 366 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,240 matter who you're using. And again, we also have database 367 00:21:13,319 --> 00:21:16,039 questions if you just want questions to supplement a program 368 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,000 that you may already have. Maybe just need some questions 369 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:21,160 now to hone your skills because you've already been through 370 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,000 a program we got you covered. We got that as well. 371 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,119 And maybe you want something that covers a wider gammut. 372 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,559 Maybe you're already licensed and you just want to have 373 00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:32,519 a consultant in your pocket. Well that's our mastering the 374 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,960 NEC program. It's like having a consultant right in your pocket. 375 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:39,400 It now also has the fast tracks Interact feature. So again, 376 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,440 beautiful thing. You can learn the NEC code with me, 377 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,839 and I am here to teach you the NEC. 378 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: All right, folks, all. 379 00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:49,039 Speaker 1: Right till next time, Stay safe, God bless and again, 380 00:21:49,519 --> 00:21:51,279 if you need anything, all you got to do is 381 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:53,640 go to Paul Abernathy dot com, submit your question and 382 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,279 I would do my best to get an answer for you. 383 00:21:55,559 --> 00:22:20,599 Speaker 2: Take care, God bless both askeball booth both asking basketball 384 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,799 Speaker 1: No thing bo