1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: And another headline, another flats, another christ is moving fast. 2 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: They sell it like it's breaking through. 3 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:40,399 Speaker 1: Put it off, feels slightly used, different. 4 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:45,719 Speaker 3: Faces, different sides, same old scriptive running line. You scroll 5 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:48,679 it down, you feel the way like you've. 6 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,799 Speaker 4: Seen this play before today. 7 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 5: It's not the. 8 00:00:52,119 --> 00:01:05,439 Speaker 3: Noise, it's how it flows, like some feeling unasing. Same story, 9 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:11,319 new name, different fire, same flame. You can feel it 10 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,159 what it is like it's already being written. 11 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,879 Speaker 6: It say, isn't hwy I saw on the screen. 12 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: It's a bad in between. 13 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 5: You don't need. 14 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: Them to explain. You can see it's the same story. 15 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 7: New name, every ankle, every frame, every oblet sounds the same. 16 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: They divided throw the lines. 17 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Keep you locked in real time. 18 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,079 Speaker 3: But the crash sock. 19 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 6: Get it aloud. You can see it. 20 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: In the crowd, something shifting out of you. 21 00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:56,719 Speaker 5: Then it's pulling you through. 22 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: It's not a theory, it's not a gas. It's the 23 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:14,560 same man's side, the man, same story, your name, different fires, 24 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,560 same flame. You can feel it when it ats, like 25 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,879 it's already been written. This isn't kayos on the screen. 26 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,879 It's applied in between, and you don't need them to explain. 27 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 6: You can see stuff, same story, no name, They don't 28 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:40,680 know how. 29 00:02:41,159 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: They just move it, shift the language or package. 30 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 5: Proven you will never meant to trace the line. 31 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: But now you see it every time. 32 00:02:55,599 --> 00:03:12,879 Speaker 5: Same story, doom time, different task, same time. 33 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: Now you're feeling in your ball pos every single every 34 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,879 sky I saw on the screen. 35 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: It's a sist on anything. 36 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,879 Speaker 2: You don't need that so explained. 37 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 6: You can see it still say stop and. 38 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:42,639 Speaker 5: Stop dando, Ye'll just finally see it. 39 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 8: The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh 40 00:03:56,639 --> 00:03:59,000 dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect 41 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,719 the opinions. 42 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: Of the host. 43 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 8: The purpose of the show is to have interesting conversations, 44 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:07,599 stretch our minds and grope, not what we want. If 45 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,520 you were looking for an echo chamber viewer and listener discretion. 46 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:17,519 Speaker 3: He's admised, didn't you talk about extreme. 47 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Amnoledge is a crime? 48 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: We were guilty from the sun. 49 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,439 Speaker 1: They don't fear the questions. 50 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: They fear the fuck. 51 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 6: So we feel the fire, not srue just to see 52 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,720 through slogs. 53 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:47,439 Speaker 1: They call it prous thinking. 54 00:04:47,959 --> 00:04:56,399 Speaker 3: They come heresy, but it doesn't fear the dark and only. 55 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,439 Speaker 4: Show what was real. 56 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 9: Hey guys, what is happening and what is a holdout 57 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:12,600 that glass, baby, because you know what time it is. 58 00:05:12,759 --> 00:05:16,439 Speaker 4: We are about to feel it a Welcome to the Premedious. 59 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,639 Speaker 9: Lins podcast, the place with the conversations are always in 60 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:22,480 lightning and I am your host, Doc Brown, and here 61 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,360 we like to use the allegory of the Prometheus lens 62 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:28,439 to take a second look at everything. 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Got 79 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,720 a great, great conversation for you guys, today. 80 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:19,639 Speaker 4: But before we get. 81 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 9: Into that real quick, if you haven't noticed the bottom, 82 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:24,319 we have this little ticker that's kind of giving you 83 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:27,199 guys some updates on some stuff there. If you'd like 84 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,480 to donate information for the PayPal, the Venmo is on 85 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:34,319 there and also updating you guys. This weekend, Saturday, May 86 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,920 the first, I will be in Owensboro, Kentucky at Faith 87 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,040 Fluence with John Pounders, Marcus Rodgers, and so many other 88 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,079 big names in this Christian sphere. If you guys are 89 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:48,680 in the Owensboro, Kentucky area and want to. 90 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:50,399 Speaker 4: Come out, hey, I'm going to have a table. 91 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:52,199 Speaker 9: Come on out and say Hi, I grab you a book, 92 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:55,160 get a picture, Let's get to know each other, let's 93 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:56,439 reason together. 94 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,079 Speaker 4: My people. 95 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 9: Well, I am gonna kill this music and I'm excited 96 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,800 for this conversation today. I've seen this guy making his 97 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,120 rounds with some of my friends shows. This is a 98 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,480 subject that I recently covered on my other channel, The 99 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,040 Prometheus Report. Just recently, Joe Rogan teamed up with Donald 100 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:18,000 Trump and they're trying to pass some legislation to get 101 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,959 hallucin agenics FDA approved for various treatments. So this is 102 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,519 kind of the subject of today. So this gentleman, I'd 103 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:28,519 like to welcome to the show for the first time, 104 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,079 hopefully the first of many, to talk about his book 105 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,879 and some of his research that pertains to this mister 106 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,839 Seth Kickleker and I like to hit the share screen. 107 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 We'll bring him up here. Let's see split screen? 108 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: Is that it? 109 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,839 Speaker 2: That? Is it? 110 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,839 Speaker 4: Hey? Welcome Seth. 111 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: How are you doing brother, Yello, I'm max chilling brother. 112 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:47,399 How are you doing today? 113 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: Doing good? 114 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 9: Doing good actually got me some new Tennessee apparel. So 115 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:55,839 I was like, I'm gonna go really bright today. 116 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:57,399 Speaker 4: I'm gonna let my life sharp. 117 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:57,639 Speaker 6: Man. 118 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,639 Speaker 2: You're a very colorful man. I can appreciate that I've 119 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 toned it down, but I wanted to represent the bald 120 00:08:03,519 --> 00:08:06,480 sexy of bald people out there because I'm you know, 121 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:07,279 I'm one of them now. 122 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 9: So I was about to say, you got a beautiful Maine. 123 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,199 What are you saying bald for? Is that like a matrix? 124 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: It's a it's a weave. It's not real. No, it's 125 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:20,199 it's it's it's my it's it's I was born with it, actually, 126 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,319 But got to represent the Baldi's out there, ironically, so 127 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,360 I guess trying to be goofy. 128 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 9: Don't worry about it now that you're good brother, Hey, 129 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,639 I love a smart guy with a good sense of humor. 130 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,559 Those are rare to find a man. For those maybe 131 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,879 that haven't caught you on some of the other shows 132 00:08:36,879 --> 00:08:38,840 that I had mentioned earlier, are not familiar with you, 133 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,639 what you do and this awesome book that we're about 134 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,440 to dive into to today, just go ahead and introduce 135 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,279 yourself to the audience. 136 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:47,279 Speaker 4: Give everybody a feel of who you are what you do. Brother. 137 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, my name is Seth kick Glider. I am a 138 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,919 goofy young man who wrote a very insane, somewhat I 139 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:59,919 would say, very original book, Spirit Realm, Shenanigans and Unhinged, 140 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:03,480 exposing the psychic fabrications of discarnate dweeds and definitely Nitwitz, 141 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,879 which you know if you can't tell by the title, 142 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,679 is a very chaotic and comedy infused real nonfiction booked 143 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,639 with case studies and theories and a lot of I'm 144 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:17,720 connecting lore from all different sorts of areas I cover. 145 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,080 What we're going to cover today is not so much 146 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,080 the drug trip stuff. We will cover some of that 147 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,039 near the end, which is very important the DMT lockout aspect, 148 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,559 but it's mostly going to be about astyl travel and 149 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:31,480 testimonies from you know, Robert Monroe and his three books 150 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:34,159 and other sources like Kurt Leland's. So that's what my 151 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:38,879 meat of the work is from. Is actual travel, reincarnation memories, 152 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:45,720 SSP memories, remote viewing, psychic information, channeled information, spirit releasement, therapy, 153 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,559 holistic healing methods, cross examined. I'm cross examining all these 154 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,279 sources of what I believe are basically elaborate demonic deceptions. 155 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,480 And you know, we'll get into the main theory in 156 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:58,000 a minute, but I should say my social media is found. 157 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,480 If you want to see me go crazy wild on 158 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,720 the Internet, go to my ex account which is Seth Lahem, 159 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:05,519 which might be a username on here, I don't know, 160 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,080 but it's Bethlehem with a Seth and Sethlehem underscore on 161 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,679 Instagram if you want to see my wacky music photography 162 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,360 as well, and my link tree is in my bio 163 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:17,879 on those accounts, on both of them, and in that 164 00:10:17,919 --> 00:10:20,720 link tree you'll find everything I got. My book you 165 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,960 can buy on Amazon, on payhip through me directly. You 166 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,480 can buy you can get my audiobook which is free 167 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:29,879 fully on YouTube and Spotify, and it is thirty four hours. 168 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:33,600 I'm sorry. And then we have the all my podcast 169 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,799 appearances are linked there, my contact you know, whatever you 170 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,320 want to find, So go to my social media to 171 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,240 find all that and my YouTube account and all that stuff. 172 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:44,879 Speaker 9: Well nice man, Well, yeah, I'm definitely interested in this 173 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,279 topic because I've not really covered you know, astral projection 174 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,679 in the astral realm. Cauld see my big trailer park 175 00:10:52,759 --> 00:10:57,159 redneck but thinks of even the DMT, like taking the 176 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,639 hallucinogenics and things like that. You're kind of going to 177 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,720 this setne same realm, So obviously I'm mistaken. So I 178 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:07,159 want you to educate me and the listeners today. But 179 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,000 I guess just starting off easing in toes in to 180 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,120 the water to test it here. I guess how did 181 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,039 you stumble upon? You know, this subject? What made you 182 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:17,399 want to write a book about this? 183 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, I was brainwashed and retarded for many years, DOC, 184 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,120 and I was definitely getting into the I had this 185 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:28,080 out of body experience in between the sleep state, which 186 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:30,759 was very validating that I had a soul, which for 187 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:32,919 a long time I denied. When I was raised Christian 188 00:11:32,919 --> 00:11:35,080 and then went to be an agnostic atheist, kind of 189 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,399 angry at the world, kind of dummy for a couple 190 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,000 of years in my youth and after my early twenties, 191 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,519 like I think twenty one or twenty two, I had 192 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:46,759 this out of body thing that was very short lived, 193 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:48,679 but I could see myself and I was floating and 194 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,320 it felt so real, and I was like, oh, shoot, 195 00:11:51,399 --> 00:11:54,360 I guess I guess I was wrong about a lot 196 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,720 of things. I should probably figure this out. So I 197 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:00,759 dive into pursuing it ashell travel. I was like reading 198 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:04,919 the Monroe Trilogy, current Leland's otherwhere, these other sources of 199 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:07,600 manual Swedenborg's and these are all things I'm gonna be 200 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,960 talking about today, and I got really into it. And 201 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,120 I wasn't going deep into realms dealing with gods so 202 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,159 much as I was floating around what they call real 203 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,080 time zone quote unquote, which is just the real world overlay, 204 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:21,480 like you're a ghost floating around to different buildings. And 205 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:23,679 I was doing a lot of that, and I had 206 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,799 a lot of demonic harassment along the way, thinking, oh, 207 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,240 I just got to raise my vibration and I'll attract 208 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,840 the good stuff and that's what they tell you, or 209 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:34,440 they say that like demons are Actually they'll either say 210 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,960 they're real and they're lower asterentities, but they're non biblical demons, 211 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,200 or they'll say their thought forms created by your own 212 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,440 manifestations of fear, which is basically, oh, you expect it 213 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:45,799 and you fear it, so you're projecting it from your 214 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:48,519 subconscious and that's what the bad encounters are. And it's 215 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,200 literally the most propaganda thing you've ever heard in your life. 216 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:53,360 But I pursued it, and I had some things that 217 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:56,000 didn't add up. And one story i'll shorten here real 218 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,240 quick is I was telling my roommate that, hey, one day, 219 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,240 I'm gonna float down in your room and I'm gonna 220 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,440 spook you with my ghost body because I'm gonna try to, 221 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,039 you know, astral project to you. And even if you're 222 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:09,360 asked for preteena around people, they don't always really sense you. 223 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:11,039 But there's people that say you can do it and 224 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,200 it's a little bit more elaborate. So I was thinking, 225 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,240 one day, I'll do that. So I go down and 226 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,159 I'm floating around to his room one day and I 227 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,320 finally get the control to like do it well, early 228 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,759 in and I see him playing video games in his 229 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:23,799 room and he's I don't know what it was. It 230 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,480 was something like some RuneScape looking stuff, and I could 231 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,080 see the details of the game on the screen. I 232 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,279 could see him perfectly. There was nothing about it that 233 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,600 seemed weird, right, And I'm trying to mess with him, 234 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:37,600 and I'm going, you know, no, homo, but I'm going 235 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,679 in and out of his body, floating through him and 236 00:13:40,879 --> 00:13:42,559 you know, seeing if he can sense me because I'm 237 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,559 trying to. And I'm giggling. I'm astral giggling through this 238 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,840 whole process, and I'm thinking he's gonna he's gonna notice this. 239 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,559 This is hilarious. And I was just trying to mess 240 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,519 with him. And then I end up going back to 241 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,879 my room upstairs and going to my body, and then 242 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:58,559 I walk downstairs to see I'm gonna be like, hey, 243 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,720 did you did you notice anything weird? Just now? You 244 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,279 got any ecdoplasma on you, bro? You know that was 245 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:07,159 my goal here. And I opened his door and blam, oh, 246 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,679 he's not even been home. He wasn't home, and I 247 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,200 saw him as if it was perfectly there, and I said, 248 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:17,879 that's weird. That doesn't make any sense. And then I 249 00:14:17,919 --> 00:14:20,039 did some research and they said, yeah, it's a thought form. 250 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,399 You just wanted to see him. Your desire and your 251 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,279 belief that he was there created a projection. But everything 252 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:28,600 else in the room was perfect. And I'm thinking to myself, now, 253 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:30,519 that's retarded, and that sounds like a lie and it 254 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:34,480 doesn't make any sense because I saw it perfectly. These 255 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:38,840 details on the imagination, Well, that's what they want you 256 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:40,559 to think. And I said, well, then how can I 257 00:14:40,559 --> 00:14:42,879 trust anything I see if that's how it. But everything 258 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:45,360 else was real looking, you know, the house and everything. 259 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:47,279 So I was like, this doesn't make any sense. So 260 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:50,759 I end up not immediately coming to the conclusions that 261 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:52,840 I come to, which I'll get into in a second, 262 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,480 but that was like my first Okay, this doesn't make 263 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,519 any sense. I need to figure it this out. And 264 00:14:57,559 --> 00:14:59,279 it took me a while to come to the conclusions 265 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,799 I did, which the I guess short explanation of my 266 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,440 overall theory of my book is that I focus today 267 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,320 on astrial travel, and I'm talking about that a lot, 268 00:15:08,879 --> 00:15:11,799 but it's what it filters into after that. But actual travel, 269 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 the astral realms people go to, and we're gonna listen 270 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,240 to test or I'm gonna read testimonies excerpts from these 271 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:19,840 books so that people understand the layers of what I'm 272 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,759 talking about. If I just talk shit and I start 273 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:23,879 just saying what I believe, I'm not gonna convince nobody 274 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:25,759 of nothing. But if I read the excerpts and sources 275 00:15:25,799 --> 00:15:28,519 of these people, I can convince a lot of people 276 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:30,559 of what's going on here because that's and it's going 277 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,000 to be more entertaining as well. So my whole theory 278 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:34,759 is that actual travel the realms people are going to 279 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:38,519 are fake. They're basically lucid dreams you could call, controlled 280 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:40,639 by demonic entities. And if they're not demons and their 281 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:42,519 guides like they claim to be, which is what the 282 00:15:42,519 --> 00:15:45,159 New Ages and Nasis would say, these are the people. 283 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,840 They are getting their cosmology from channel sources, but also 284 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:53,600 astral travel sources, which align with channel sources. This is 285 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,159 where they get their cosmology from is from astral experiences, 286 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,559 and that's where a lot of the reincarnation lower comes 287 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:01,399 from from seeing it themsel elves quote unquote in the 288 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 astral realm where they see the whole cycle take place. 289 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,159 So there's a lot basically I'm saying they control it, 290 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,240 not just not just you know really well, No, I'm 291 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,080 saying it's perfect masterful. I want to use the word 292 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,360 god like regretfully, so control because that's the level people 293 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,559 need to understand. And when I say control, I don't 294 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:22,759 just mean the visuals of what they're saying, but also 295 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:26,279 they guide your intuition. They can put thoughts in your head, 296 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,960 just like they can when we're in the waking world, 297 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,840 but they can control your perception, your intuition, your lucidity 298 00:16:31,879 --> 00:16:34,600 can be controlled to I'm sure you can kind of 299 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:37,080 counteract a little bit with your own you know mind, 300 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:39,840 but for the most part, you are a puppet if 301 00:16:39,879 --> 00:16:41,799 you are doing divination and going out of your body, 302 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,519 which God tells you not to do for a reason. 303 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:48,320 So yeah, it's all basically set up as these lucid 304 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,039 dreams to convince you you're going to real places and 305 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,720 these locations if they're not real, they're just elaborate theatrics 306 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,159 to convince you of a cosmology that doesn't exist. Which 307 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,399 is the most biblical sounding thing I've ever heard, is 308 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,240 a mass deception from demons through these various means. And 309 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:07,039 if this is true, they can control remote viewing so 310 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,119 easily because that's just download knowledge impressions with a little 311 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,160 bit of visuals and other senses, but way less immersive 312 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,440 and way less impressive of control than the astral travel stuff. 313 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,400 So I like to make that point that people take 314 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,799 that stuff literally or real or as good data. And yeah, 315 00:17:22,799 --> 00:17:24,839 they'll give us good data sometimes that's true, but that's 316 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,079 to make us believe the stuff that we can't verify 317 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,279 with evidence later, such as the astral realp stuff. Am 318 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:31,720 I making sense so far? Brother? 319 00:17:35,759 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 9: Now you I'm sitting there track and all that stuff. 320 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,519 But like I said, I've heard thirty thousand foot view stuff, 321 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,400 you know, from people in passing. So I'm really interested 322 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,480 to take the deep. 323 00:17:46,279 --> 00:17:46,759 Speaker 4: Dive with you. 324 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 9: So and that's another thing too, just from what little 325 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,400 bit I've heard you talk about some of this stuff. Uh, 326 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:54,720 it's almost like the matrix. That's kind of why I 327 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:56,160 made that thumbnail. 328 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:57,079 Speaker 4: Art work the way I did you know that. 329 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: I love it? 330 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, dreams. 331 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, so, uh so this is literally these demons are 332 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,240 the architects so to speak. 333 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,319 Speaker 4: Yes, of the matrix they. 334 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: Are, they are architecting. I mean, the thing is, it's 335 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,279 not a real matrix in the way that they want 336 00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:13,920 you to think. It's not the gnostic story that they 337 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,039 want you to think. They're giving you this astro realm 338 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:20,759 cosmology to convince you of exactly that prison planet thing. Now, 339 00:18:20,759 --> 00:18:22,759 they'll give new ages a more love and light type 340 00:18:22,759 --> 00:18:25,079 of version of it, and then they'll give the darker 341 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,799 people who they can read your mind. They're going to 342 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:28,720 cater to you what you're more likely to accept, and 343 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:30,880 then they'll give the more dark stuff, the more prison 344 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,440 planet darker side of it. Same reincarnation coin. Uh, they'll 345 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,839 give that to people who are who think they're smarter, 346 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,839 but I would say they're still equally deceived. But it's 347 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,400 it's the same thing. Uh, they're giving you this and 348 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,319 they're here's the thing. They're going through elaborate storylines and 349 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,200 characters and interactions to make you think it's a literal 350 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,160 place and literal thing because you're an asset. Now if 351 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:54,720 especially these authors, you're coming back and you're sharing it 352 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:56,799 with the world, and if you're an author and you're 353 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:58,839 writing a book about it, like Monroe did and became 354 00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:02,279 the most popular sol of the astral Traveler in the world, 355 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,279 and sort of the Monroe Institute, which is this Harry 356 00:19:04,319 --> 00:19:10,400 Potter School for psychic abilities, you know, wizard stuff. He's 357 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,559 most lunched out there, so he's getting more experiences than 358 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:16,759 most people that are more elaborate. But they are. They're 359 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,759 just going through these means to convince you of lies 360 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,599 which don't exist. And the whole takeaway is that they 361 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,440 control it perfectly, and they cycle that into all psychic 362 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,920 derived information and it can and it also affects dreams, 363 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,279 not dreams, but all of them, your death experiences. Same 364 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:35,680 logic here, drug prips where you're going out of body 365 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,240 DMT we'll talk about later. It's all a unified tool 366 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,440 of deception that filters into every trance state, out of 367 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,400 body experience or vision quest or whatever you want to 368 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,119 call it. It's all one tool. And this is me 369 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:54,559 trying to show it in a very admitted light by 370 00:19:54,559 --> 00:19:56,440 these beings where you're going, oh, well, they're admitting they 371 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,240 can do this. So this means we have to at 372 00:19:58,319 --> 00:20:00,640 least look at the potential that everything else is fake. 373 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,319 You know what I'm saying? 374 00:20:01,839 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 9: Mm hmm. And I said the same thing kind of 375 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,359 with the whole file and angel stuff. It's the same 376 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,240 story we see you know, throughout the world, throughout history, 377 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,359 but the names have changed or they rebranch grip how 378 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,000 they look. So yeah, it's like like you said, they 379 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:21,440 present themselves to or in a way that the person 380 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,680 they are trying to you know, talk to will accept 381 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,440 and believe. So and it's also star people and you 382 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,559 know all down the line now it's aliens. 383 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also strategically smart for them to muddy the 384 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,839 waters with all sorts of different beliefs and all these 385 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:41,240 different things instead of creating one counter idea, especially because 386 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,039 then Christianity would be it would you know, like they 387 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:47,720 created all these religions besides Christianity to water it down 388 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:49,359 and make it seem like nothing like one in a 389 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,920 big barrel of belief systems as opposed to getting getting 390 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,960 one counter belief system that's coherent in all ways, which 391 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,119 most of them are reincarnation based and you know a 392 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,359 lie and none of them are you know, have the 393 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,079 biblical afterlife and narrative of Jesus. But they spread it out, 394 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,559 They spread themselves thin because people will gravitate towards whatever 395 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,880 makes sense to them at the moment. They're not going 396 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,279 to cross reference all these belief systems. It's just not 397 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:16,240 it's not feasible for most people. So that's why I 398 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:18,079 think it's smarter for them to muddy the waters with 399 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,359 all these sorts of different characters and names and cultural Italians. 400 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,680 So that's a factor to keep in mind. But let 401 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,839 me know when you're ready and we'll hop into this stuff. Man. 402 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,519 Speaker 9: Oh I'm ready, go right ahead. And what's cool though, 403 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,759 is like I've been really nerdily studying the Dragon Court 404 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:40,319 for my book that I'm working on now, and it's 405 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,000 kind of slipped into the divine feminine stuff that Steven's 406 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,039 always talking about. 407 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh he loves talking about it. 408 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And so even that's kind of overlaid in there, 409 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,599 you know, with the Scythians, and they did ancestor worship, 410 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:58,519 you know, and tried to contact this other world. 411 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: So I'm even seeing some of this. 412 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: Stuff to be ancestors. Keep in mind. Yeah, so it's demons, 413 00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:08,359 you know what I'm saying. So it's all the same 414 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:10,759 you know thing ultimately, But they're spreading themselves thin with 415 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:15,039 these characters. Is my point. But yeah, man, it's it's crazy. 416 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,759 I'm basically gonna be doing here a reading of various 417 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:22,480 excerpts from in my book, I do eighty pages on 418 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:25,720 the actional traveler, I believe, and about twenty each is 419 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:29,039 dedicated to each book. And I'm covering Monroe's three Out 420 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:30,480 of Body books, which is the most popular in the 421 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:34,720 world and most influential. And Kurt Leland's other ware, who 422 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:38,599 is a Monroe Institute contributor, and he was trained at 423 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:40,160 the monro Institute, and he's a big time out of 424 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,759 body traveler. He's just less popular and less well known. 425 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,119 But his book has a lot of insights that most 426 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,000 do not share, which I think is very revealing and 427 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:50,839 matches up with my theories. So I'm going to start 428 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,759 with the heavy stuff, like the more directed missions of control, 429 00:22:54,279 --> 00:22:56,279 and I'm gonna read the second one is going to 430 00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:58,440 be like the longest, so bear with me, but it's 431 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,039 gonna be I'm trying to do these in an order 432 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:04,319 that has a whole flow with it and the idea 433 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,960 is presented. So I'll just Robert Monroe. I'm gonna call 434 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:22,000 him Bob. Though he's very famous, he's dead. I'm gonna 435 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:22,799 jump into this, bro. 436 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, man, I'm sorry. 437 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 9: I doing some searching over here. I wanted to try 438 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,440 pull some visual references while you were talking. 439 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh do your thing man, Yeah, okay. So I'm gonna 440 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,599 be reading starting with Monroe's second book. This is something 441 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,119 he talks about one time in one paragraph in the 442 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,200 entirety of his three books, and never again, which is uh, 443 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:50,559 I think says a lot. So he's talking about his 444 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:56,799 guides that are teaching him stuff, and he says, verbatim, 445 00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,839 a favorite and quick learn forever method of theirs with simulation. 446 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,039 It was based on their ability to create in place 447 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:05,359 into a human consciousness mine or an Earth type situation 448 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:08,039 so real and so overwhelming that I could not tell 449 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,759 reality from illusion. I do not know that limits of 450 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:13,880 such simulation talent or technology, nor do I know the 451 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,440 extent to which they employed a technique. It may only 452 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,200 be in my particular case, but I doubt it. The 453 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,359 potentials of its application in other ways begs for broad speculation. 454 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:24,880 In my own pattern, it was usually applied as an 455 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,240 instant cleanup of minor emotional patterns that blocked or distorted 456 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,759 my clarity of perception or my stability. Usually I was 457 00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:34,799 unaware of such dysfunction. They would They would note it 458 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,720 and offer to take care of the problem. I would 459 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,880 be informed that the lesson was about to take place 460 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,960 with my consent, Yet once in the simulation, it became 461 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,839 absolutely and totally real, and I lived it. If I 462 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,839 did not come up with a desired action, the simulation 463 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680 would be repeated until I did. Even in the repetition, 464 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,880 I could not break through the reality of the simulation. 465 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:54,720 Yet once the training sequence was completed, I then knew 466 00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:58,400 what it was for. Suppose questions about motives seemed irrelevant, 467 00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:00,480 or perhaps I didn't want to endanger the good thing 468 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:04,119 I had going for me. Okay, so there's a lot 469 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,079 of things there that he not only just admits that 470 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,000 they have the complete admitted ability to fabricate false simulations 471 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,279 that are so real he forgets he's in a simulation 472 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:17,279 which is again affecting his lucidity, which we'll talk more 473 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,400 about later. He is admitting that this could be used 474 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,880 in more in more instances, and he's just not aware, 475 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960 but he doesn't want to question it because he doesn't 476 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,079 want to endanger his forbidden knowledge access and his good 477 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:32,720 thing he's got going for him. So that's a pretty 478 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,720 flat and gross admission of their power. And you're gonna 479 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,880 see how ridiculous. It gets in the next story. But uh, 480 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960 are you tracking so far? My dude? 481 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,559 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, which I just pulled up his website. I 482 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,599 got it over here on the share screens for everybody. 483 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:48,960 It's pretty wild. There's an eye catching website for sure. 484 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,759 So it's showing I guess going into the eye there 485 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,799 and traveling. 486 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally a real place guys go do it. 487 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:03,599 So anyway, that's admitting already that they have this ability. 488 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,599 Now is it all fake? That's not what they're saying. 489 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,640 That's what I'm saying based on what we're gonna read 490 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,279 further and analysis, because they are obviously doing very theatrical 491 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,759 things here for what purpose. It seems weird if they're 492 00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:19,319 giving him true information about true realms to go through 493 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,279 these theatrics seems kind of unnecessary. But we'll get there. 494 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,799 So now I'm gonna be reading from Kurt Leland's other 495 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:29,599 ware book, and he is going to talk about this 496 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,559 simulation realm more directly and more. Because Monroe doesn't share 497 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:36,319 any details. He just says that, which is crazy, never 498 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,039 to talk about it again because he knows how it 499 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:41,319 will come off. Probably, But Leland is talking about this 500 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,519 in detail, and he says he is going into an 501 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,079 astral escape room. The guides he has wants to put 502 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,640 him in this astral simulation and tell him, hey, you 503 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,319 got to figure out how to escape, and you're not 504 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,920 gonna leave till you figure it out, which is a 505 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,000 little scary, but whatever. And they put him in this, 506 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,759 you know, so sixteen hundred and fifteen hundred type year 507 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:06,079 Italy area, he believes, and it's a castle. He's in 508 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,240 this castle, and there's all this Renaissance type furniture and 509 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,599 atmosphere around him, and he is saying, he says, I 510 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,359 look down at the drawing table where I found a 511 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,160 complex perspective study of a cathedral drawn in ink on 512 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,519 a piece of parchment. The sketches in the style of 513 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,599 the Renaissance. Could this be a past life one in 514 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720 once id, one into which I'd been an artist or 515 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:31,160 architectural draftsman. So this man is told he's going into 516 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,960 a simulation, and once he's in it, he immediately thinks, 517 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,519 I wonder if this is a past life memory, which 518 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,839 is stupid for many reasons. One, you know, you don't 519 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,000 have autonomy in a memory like he's doing. You're just 520 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:47,039 reliving it and two it. They just told him he's 521 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,640 going into a simulation, but his lucidity is instantly dimmed 522 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 and affected, making him dumber. And we'll talk about that 523 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,720 after this story. Why that's really important what's going on there? 524 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960 But so, yeah, that's what happens, and then he says, 525 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,599 as instructed, I looked for clues. A quick scan showed 526 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,839 me that there was no door. Perhaps it was concealed 527 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,880 like a trapdoor. After all, I seemed to be a 528 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,559 prisoner of sorts. So it's not a copy and paste 529 00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,559 of a real like building, because otherwise there would be 530 00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,039 a door. So this is again showing there it's all 531 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,480 all simulation, it's all controlled, and it's not technology, it's consciousness. 532 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:19,680 But you know, we'll get into that later. 533 00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 9: So what was the name of that movie with Leonardo 534 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:25,240 DiCaprio back in the day, exception, Yes, he had the 535 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,119 spin on top. That's how you could tell if he 536 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,079 was in the dream. 537 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,839 Speaker 2: It's stupid, but yeah, that's that's essentially it. And well 538 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,279 i'll reference that a bit later or actually pretty soon 539 00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,400 here because there's some parallels for sure with the whole 540 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,519 going inside one to another aspect. But we'll get there 541 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:44,200 so this guy's in this place. He thinks he's living 542 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,559 in a past life. Then he's like, wait, no, that's 543 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:49,119 not it. And now he says I look down at 544 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240 the drawing table again. The architectural rendering was gone. In 545 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,440 its place, I found a piece of typing paper turned 546 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,240 sideways on. It was a child's crayon drawing of a 547 00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,960 landscape a bright a bright blue sky with a smile 548 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,960 sun and puffy white clouds, green grass, and a poorly 549 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,640 drawn cow grazing by a metal gate. Before I had 550 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,559 a chance to ask myself what such a drawing was 551 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,319 doing in the Renaissance, however, I found myself inside it 552 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,400 a real life figure projected into a cartoon. A wind 553 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 of colors flew by the sunset, and the crest moonlighting 554 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,880 on its side, rose up. The moon had a big 555 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,160 nose and was wearing a nightcap. A music box began 556 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,480 to play Beautiful Dreamer, and the moon started to sing 557 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,880 along in the voice of Frank Sinatra. A courus, a 558 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440 course line of five pointed stars whirled and jigg between verses, 559 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,400 occasionally chiming in. The brown cow never moved, however, it 560 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,920 seemed it remained frozen mid shoe grass dangling from its mouth, 561 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:38,720 faintly pathetic. The sun and moon seemed to be attached 562 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,079 to a revolving wheel that kept spinning faster and faster. 563 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Day alternated with night. Yeah, exactly, day alternated with nights 564 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000 so rapidly that they blurred together, flickering like a strobe light. 565 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,200 And then, just as suddenly as I'd been whisked into 566 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,640 the child's drawing, I was outside again, seated at the 567 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,359 drawing table. The architectural rendering had reappeared. So taking a break, 568 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:04,319 because that's that's the level of like cartoon buffoonery control 569 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:06,440 we're talking about. Now. They're not doing this in all 570 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,640 the ast realms because they wanted to seem realistic, but 571 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,880 they're doing it in this admitted simulation. Uh, mostly to 572 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,599 mess with him, I think. And we'll get some more 573 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,960 of that in a minute. Well actually they kind of 574 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,599 revealed why, but I'll get that. 575 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,519 Speaker 9: Which it reminded me of that song back in the day, 576 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:25,559 Credence Clearwater Revival, you know looking out my back door. 577 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,359 Speaker 4: You remember that one. 578 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 9: You know, Ambernes and Elephants are playing in the band 579 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,839 talking about this crazy shit. 580 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,799 Speaker 2: If you sing the whole song, I might remember, but no, 581 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,240 if you want to serenade, but you're welcome to. 582 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 9: I tend to do that from time to time, but 583 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,640 I'll spare you. 584 00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:46,599 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. Anyway, So it gets it gets crazier. This 585 00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:48,480 this is the longest one. Like I said, it's not done. 586 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,440 He so he again forgets why he's there. His lucidity's dropping. 587 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,519 He's he's forgetting what's what to do? And then he 588 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,519 remembers again. And I think this is them just implanting thoughts, controlling, 589 00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:00,920 as we said it, because they tend to do that 590 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,640 throughout this entire process. But then he says, the study vanished, 591 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,079 and I found myself wandering through a desert with the 592 00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,519 clarity of logic that startled me mind control stuff going on. 593 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,359 I resolved to seek out the witches and warlocks who 594 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 must have been responsible for this bizarre chain of scenery. 595 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,119 Even though he knows they just put him in a simulation. 596 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,279 He's forgetting, so he says, perhaps they could tell me 597 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,680 how to escape this reality in which I've been imprisoned. 598 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,200 I walked and walked. The desert remained featureless as it 599 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,519 had been when I first arrived. I was lost, but 600 00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:32,200 that didn't stop me. I kept on walking anyway. Suddenly 601 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,640 my perspective shifted. I seemed to be seeing myself from 602 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,519 far away. 603 00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 4: With a thank you. Froze up. 604 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,319 Speaker 2: But I would be trapped in this barren reality wherever 605 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:53,799 and whatever it was. What's up? 606 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: Oh, for a second though, on mining it anyway? You 607 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,079 locked up? I thought, I lost you. I'm sorry. 608 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,799 Speaker 2: No, No, you're good, You're good. I'm finishing this quote. 609 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:06,079 It says forever, I'd be lost in this beer in reality, wherever, 610 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,160 whatever it was, forever without transition. I found myself back 611 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,240 in the architect's study. So now he's on this planet 612 00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:15,240 where he's a giant man, bigger than the planet and 613 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:18,359 revolving it with its own gravitational field and everything. Like, 614 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,839 the physics of this stuff is very dream like, and 615 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,680 it can be, like I said, expertly controlled, even in 616 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920 a way that doesn't line up with our physics. So 617 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,400 if that's possible, keep in mind the rest of this, 618 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,440 what we're gonna read is totally potentially fabricated. So and 619 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,440 they're admitting they have this power, so keep that in mind. 620 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,960 This is not a theory. This is them saying, no, 621 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:40,519 we have this ability. And then he again forgets why 622 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:44,400 he's there, and then this concealed door opens up, and 623 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,599 then this lady walks in and she is basically one 624 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,960 of the guides, coming as a woman into this dream realm, 625 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,920 and she says to him, let me ask you something. 626 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,119 The instructor said, where on earth are you able to 627 00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,200 walk through a crayon drawing while the sun smiles at 628 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,440 you in the moon and stars singing? Your study contains 629 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640 bits and pieces from every historic period from the last 630 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,000 five hundred years. We threw in everything but the kitchen 631 00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:07,759 sing to get you to realize this was a dream, 632 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,119 and we finally had to put that into All you 633 00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:11,839 had to do. All you had to do was realize 634 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,039 the utter impossibility of everything you were perceiving and tell 635 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:16,559 yourself you must be dreaming. So they're saying, hey, all 636 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,240 you had to do was figure out your dreaming and 637 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:19,960 you would escape. 638 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,519 Speaker 9: You should be a lucid dreamer. When I was a 639 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,319 kid man, and that's how I would pull myself out 640 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:28,960 of the dream, I could control everything, and then when 641 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,359 it would get so crazy, you know, or scary, I 642 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,400 would tell myself, oh, this is a dream. This is 643 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640 a dream, wake up, And I could wake myself up. 644 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,319 That's crazy. 645 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it gets crazier because they I want to 646 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,359 make a point that not at this part of the book, 647 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,160 but another part. They tell him the most important thing 648 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,200 you can do on Earth in your time on planet 649 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,279 Earth is practice lucid dreaming and out of body travel 650 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,160 because and one for one, they say you can go 651 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,079 from a lucid dream to asshole travel instantly, which might 652 00:33:58,119 --> 00:33:59,640 say a little bit about the nature of it, by 653 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,839 the way, But two they say that because whenever you 654 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240 die and you're you don't want to get caught in 655 00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:08,199 the reincarnation loop. You need to know how to navigate 656 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,199 the astral realm. You need to know how to navigate 657 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,039 other dimensions after you escape this reincarnation loop, which they 658 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,960 have different views on. So you need to be good 659 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480 and I don't understand the astro realm, so if you 660 00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,599 die you don't have it figured out, you're gonna get stuck. 661 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,519 And that's why they say you have to do this. 662 00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:25,960 They don't talk about moral progression and getting becoming a 663 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,440 better person. They say, no, the most important thing you 664 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,079 can do is go to the astral realm, which is 665 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,880 totally real, which is kind of crazy and Additionally, what 666 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,599 was the other point I wanted to make this whole 667 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,679 dream thing. Yeah, so they're saying that was the whole 668 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,800 test is figure out you're dreaming. But here's where it 669 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,679 gets weird. You know how I said, they were messing 670 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,800 with his lucidity, and he he kept getting dumber and 671 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,599 then forgetting what's happening, and then they would plant thoughts 672 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,440 in his head to go somewhere else. So why this 673 00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:56,840 is important is they don't have lucidity problems in the 674 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,360 regular astral realms like they do in these simulations. So 675 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,559 then that would lead you to believe, oh, well, obviously 676 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,960 I'm not in a simulation because my lucidity is fine, 677 00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,039 which technically they mess with that at other times too, 678 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,960 but for the most part it's unaffected. So I think 679 00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:14,880 they are strategically choosing to dim down their lucidity in 680 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,800 these simulations exclusively because it makes it seem like a 681 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,559 separate whole world as opposed to the real quote unquote 682 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:26,760 astro realm. I think they can always control it, and 683 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,960 there's patterns of this in other areas, but because they're 684 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,360 doing it so aggressively in these simulations, they are they're 685 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,239 basically covering their asses because they're revealing a lot when 686 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,559 they reveal this power they have when they didn't really 687 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,559 have to do that, but they're trying to. They're trying 688 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,239 to program certain mentalities and belief systems in these people 689 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,880 and using these simulations to do it, and saying, hey, 690 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,960 this is the most important thing you can do. Focus 691 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,119 on this, keep going out of body, keep merging with us. 692 00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,920 So I think the lucidity dimming timing is very important here. 693 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,239 I don't know if that makes sense or not. 694 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I was just looking too like on their 695 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,320 little website, like their courses. 696 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,639 Speaker 4: I'll bring it up real fast. 697 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 9: This is crazy and it kind of goes like stuff 698 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000 I talk about too like And actually that book I'm 699 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,639 reading that Nicholas Daver Dragon Legacy, talks about how the 700 00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:18,679 New Age and all this stuff that they try to 701 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960 teach them is just a money racket because only the people, 702 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:26,119 in his opinion, only people with the Dragon bloodline can 703 00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:30,159 achieve you know, these you know experiences and things like 704 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,760 that that's in the blood. But like right here, they 705 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,440 got all these different programs eight to twelve weeks for 706 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,960 six hundred dollars. 707 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,639 Speaker 4: Now that's cheap. Compared to some of these others. 708 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 9: Five days gateway voyage eleven hundred to almost three thousand dollars. 709 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,320 It seems it's a very lucrative business because only the 710 00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,199 rich people can afford to travel. 711 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, I did a di way poor 712 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,400 person version and I did just fine. But if I 713 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,480 went to that wizard school, I probably would have had 714 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,519 some even crazier experiences. But I am very lucky the 715 00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:13,280 Lord pulled me out of that before I got too 716 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,199 deep in, because that is a dangerous rabbit hole to 717 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,199 be uh projecting into literally, So yeah, man, it it 718 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,920 gets crazier from there. But those are other two sources 719 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,719 of some of the top astril travelers, the number one 720 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,280 and like you know, another big one admitting this is 721 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,559 totally what their power is, and they admit the guides 722 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,119 who are maybe demons, totally admit to this ability. So 723 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,760 people I've never heard, I've never heard anybody talk about 724 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,840 those testimonies and about this astral simulation thing except maybe 725 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,840 glossed over in regression memory access lore a little bit, 726 00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,400 but not in like a totally fabricated sequencing. I think 727 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,440 Carla Turner maybe talked about it a little bit but 728 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,119 not in the way that I am with the astral 729 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,000 realm and being a fabrication. So I just find it 730 00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:01,280 interesting that I'm the first to present this idea cohesively 731 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,599 at least, which is kind of crazy because it's kind 732 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,159 of in your face, like I'm kind of shocked. But 733 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,880 there's more, a lot more. So we're going to get 734 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,320 into Monroe's concept of wrote, which is r ote and 735 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:19,079 a wrote to him is his word for a download, 736 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,920 you know, where like a knowledge packet and instant metaphysical 737 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,079 transfer of information. You know, they telepathically communicate in the 738 00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,840 astral but instead of going back and forth like we're talking, 739 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,760 they can just say, here, take this, and then you 740 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,840 instantly get a download of tons of complex information instantly 741 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,840 where you fully understand it. And yeah, the details might 742 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,239 fade in your memory pretty fast, but overall you'll understand 743 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,559 a complex topic instantly because they download it into you. 744 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,159 Which a lot of experiencers of all kinds of demonic harassment, abductions, 745 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,519 out of body travelers, they all talk about downloads all 746 00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,679 the time, and on all our famous movies and music, 747 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,280 a lot of it. The authors and writers said it 748 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,760 came to be in a down load. I just woke 749 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,119 up and it came out. You know, it's a that's 750 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:07,440 a download, so it's coming from spirits. So any astral 751 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,199 entity can apparently share a download with any other astral entity, 752 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,119 except the Astral Travelers, they don't seem to be able 753 00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,159 to do this, which is interesting just the entities you 754 00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:19,360 meet which are not human, So not only can it 755 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,519 be a download of information, but sometimes if they want 756 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,320 it to, it can be a whole simulation, which is 757 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,440 what we're about to talk about Bob. As at one 758 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,960 point in the Astral meeting, this entity who goes by 759 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,119 his name that he has translated to English is z 760 00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:36,679 Dash fifty five slash Lou Lou, which is a dumb, fake, 761 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,400 made up alien name. And this is an alien from 762 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,519 another planet, maybe another dimension. But he's he's a dead 763 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,039 soul from another planet and he's traveling to Earth to 764 00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:47,800 find a new home to reincarnate on in a new realm. 765 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,280 So he's from another realm. He's a spirit, but he's 766 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,039 an alien, and he he's trying to tell Bob how 767 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,440 he died on his home planet and how he got here, 768 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,000 so instead of just telling him, which he could pretty 769 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,599 fit quickly he gives them a rote, and in this rote, 770 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,800 it's a download, but it's also he's immersed instantly, instantly 771 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,079 shifted to another area, and it's a simulation. So he's 772 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:11,920 on this home planet of this guy now, but instead 773 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,920 of reliving the memory, he's actually got autonomy and he's 774 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,480 moving around in his own body. Now. It's not clear 775 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:20,079 what body he's in. He doesn't say, but he blends 776 00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,599 in with everybody else there, and he says they're humanoid, 777 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,000 but they're not human. They look like human and they 778 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,880 have you know, cities that look like an Earth, but 779 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,760 it's different, you know, it's close. So he's walking around, 780 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,840 having some awkward interactions with some people, but interacting with people. 781 00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,920 And then he is getting harassed by some military type 782 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,920 looking for identification and they're speaking, you know, they're communicating. 783 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,800 I don't know what language. Maybe it's English, that would 784 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,360 be funny. But and then he ends up. All this 785 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960 stuff that's happening doesn't matter, because out of nowhere, some 786 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,239 tsunami comes in and just drowns and kills everybody violently. 787 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,719 And he has a violent death that he experiences that 788 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,920 feels realer than anything. And then he comes out of 789 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,840 it and he's back with that other character and he's like, oh, shoot, 790 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,960 like that was crazy, and you like, see that's how 791 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,880 I died. Yeah, you couldn't just say I died in 792 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960 the tsunami. I had to trauma dump on you and 793 00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:15,159 literally like h traumatize you and give you PTSD from 794 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,719 this freaking fake death. But it feels real and it 795 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,360 feels immersive, and it's like, do you. 796 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 9: Think that it's like a type thing that they do, 797 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440 Like they just kind of do that to build rapport 798 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,280 with the people, to get them to trust them, and. 799 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 2: This I think it's to make it seem more realistic 800 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,400 and add legitimacy to it. Yeah. I think it's like, oh, 801 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,360 I can't just believe what I'm told because the whole 802 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,760 point of the astral deception is so that you can 803 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,199 experience the truth for yourself, which instead of just spirits 804 00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,119 telling you like they do in Channel or Since they 805 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,559 have this ability, they might as well use it to 806 00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:48,960 to convince you by making you experience it and make 807 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,800 it make you think it's your idea. You came to 808 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,159 these conclusions on your own, U. That's what a lot 809 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:55,920 of this mass awakening in the Conspiracy realm is a 810 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,719 lot of it's true information, but the powers that be 811 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,599 are allowing algorithm for a lot of conspiracies to get 812 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,960 out there so that you fall into the gnostic kind 813 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 of side, which a lot of conspiracies lead to narcissism. 814 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,519 The ultimate one leads to Jesus. Yes, I know, but 815 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920 a lot of these conspiracies are dropped intentionally, like this 816 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:18,280 time travel blooney and this and certain Oh they're hiding 817 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,840 ashle travel from us. We have the documents from the 818 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,599 CIA and now we can actional travel, and they've been 819 00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,440 hiding it. You know. That's they're like, oh, you caught us, 820 00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:27,639 You caught us. We totally were keeping it from you. 821 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,079 But really it's to initiate you into these secret society 822 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,679 occult ritual divination stuff, which is becoming more popular every day. 823 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,039 So it's the same logic they need to make you 824 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,559 think it was your idea. And that's where the manipulation this. 825 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,960 You know, the Bible says there's a great deception coming, 826 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,360 not a weak as animpressive one. It's going to be 827 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,039 great and elaborate, and this ability is the main conduit 828 00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,159 I think in the information realm for it. So I 829 00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:57,360 hope that makes sense at least, all right, bet Well, 830 00:42:57,639 --> 00:42:59,800 staying on that topic, moving to the inception thing. Where 831 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,719 to talking about earlier because this is very relevant. I 832 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,119 call this one rote sception, and it's the idea of 833 00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:07,920 I'm not gonna explain the entire story because it's super 834 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,280 convoluted and crazy and we don't got time for that. 835 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,440 But the short version is Bob is in the Astral 836 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,079 in book two and meets these Astral spirits from another 837 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,960 another planet, alien spirits, and they're on an astral tour 838 00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,280 bus to Earth, taking a literal tour over the galaxy 839 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,800 on a bus with a tour guide and everything. It's 840 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,440 super corny and stupid sounding. 841 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,119 Speaker 4: Nice and they have. 842 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,039 Speaker 2: Yeah no, literally, it's like that in the Astral it's crazy, 843 00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:38,320 and these spirits are on a tour, and essentially Bob 844 00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,119 is talking to this character he names b B and 845 00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,440 that's the alien spirit he names am BB, which is 846 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,840 annoying and I hate to use it, but whatever, and 847 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,519 his BB's friend is called AA, which sorry, it's annoying, 848 00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:56,079 but those are their names. So, oh my gosh, it 849 00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:59,440 might be that would be a crazy reveal. Actually no, 850 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:03,360 but so Bb is talking to Bob and telling him 851 00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:07,400 what he lost his friend AA, because AA saw Earth 852 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,320 and wanted to go incarnate there because it looked fun. 853 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,760 And he's talking about Earth like it's a roller coaster ride. 854 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,639 And since there's no time to them and incarnation can 855 00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,679 happen and they can come right out like it's a ride, 856 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,320 so because there's no time, so it's kind of lucy 857 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,360 goosey with that. And BB is telling him what happened, 858 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,000 and instead of just telling him, he gives Bob a rote. 859 00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:29,079 So Bob is now reliving BB's memories, but instead of 860 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,639 having autonomy, he's reliving the memory, so he doesn't have 861 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,440 control in it. So he has no control and he's 862 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,719 just living it out, and he's going through the going 863 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,639 through the waves and showing how BB is having this 864 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,159 interaction with his friend, and his friend goes and lives 865 00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:43,880 on Earth for a whole life and then comes out 866 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,639 like it's a ride. And then AA is sharing a 867 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,760 rote with BB, who is now in the perception of Bob. 868 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,159 And then now Bob is in BB's character going inside 869 00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:58,760 this other rote, living out AA's Earth human life, and 870 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,679 it's going one into the other. Now that's the story. 871 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,000 They're telling, but it's not really going one deeper into 872 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:08,800 the next. It's actually just switching simulations to a new simulation. 873 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:11,079 It's just switching. Now they want you to believe it's 874 00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,320 going one into another Russian Doll style like it could 875 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,199 be infinite, because technically it could at that point to 876 00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,360 kind of expand this whole consciousness. We're all connected. Everything's 877 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,519 infinite concept which comes into other flavors in other areas. 878 00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,559 So I think that's important to note. It's not going deeper, 879 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,000 it's just switching to a new simulation. But they're so 880 00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,840 good at conveying this transition that you can't tell the difference. 881 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,599 Do you know what I'm saying? 882 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,639 Speaker 9: That asked this question, I thought it was worth asking you. 883 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 4: Let me throw it up. 884 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, Daniel says, are these souls trapped in the ancient A? 885 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,440 I guess astral or did they go there of their 886 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,239 own free will? 887 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 2: The souls he's encountering, I guess he's saying. Yeah. Yeah. 888 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,599 My answer to that is none of them are real. 889 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:03,480 They're all demons masking. Now, are these characters each one 890 00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:05,960 played by a different demon? It may be, but it 891 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,519 doesn't have to be. It could all just be a 892 00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,320 simulation where they're sock puppeting them from one source, one 893 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,840 demon doing it controlling all of them. 894 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 6: Uh. 895 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 2: Either, I think that's what's happening, but it could be 896 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,800 a demon playing each character. But the whole area, the 897 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,880 whole realm, the whole space is fake. It's a lucid dream. 898 00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,159 It is fabricated. And you'll see the level of control 899 00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,440 in more situation later if that cartoon one wasn't enough. 900 00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:30,360 But they're not. They're not they're not real entities. They're 901 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,760 not who they say they are. They're just playing masking 902 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,159 as characters to give you an idea of a non 903 00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:38,039 biblical cosmology. That's all it is. It's a vision. It's 904 00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:40,039 a false vision. And we'll get into the Bible and 905 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:42,079 how it backs this concept up at the end of 906 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,559 this whole presentation. So I hope that answers your question. 907 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:45,119 It makes sense. 908 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, I just that's what the He wrought that up there, 909 00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:49,440 and I'm like, that's a pretty good question. 910 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 4: I'll throw that up there. 911 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, a lot of new and nastis. Yeah, no, 912 00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:55,960 you're good. A lot of people listening to this if 913 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,920 they're not a Christian, uh, and a lot of here's 914 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,159 the thing. A lot of Christians believe we're not supposed 915 00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:02,960 to go out of body because God says not to, 916 00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,679 which is true. But they also believe this place is real, 917 00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:07,639 and they think that these places are real. Now these 918 00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:09,719 places are real, that the Bible's wrong. I'm just letting 919 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,920 you know they can't coexist, but they don't a lot 920 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,119 of Christians don't do research into what these places share 921 00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:17,679 and the information they do, and how they shit on 922 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,320 Christianity constantly as a concept and no other religion really, 923 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,440 which is crazy. It's just Christianity the target, just like 924 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,480 in Channelore. So it's important to know if these are real, 925 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,519 Christianity is wrong. So I'm not just saying they're fake 926 00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:32,239 because it validates my belief system. I used to believe 927 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,639 in this, I used to do it, and I came 928 00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:35,599 to Christianity because I found out it was all fake. 929 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,119 That's what's happening here with me.