WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.279 Football's not coming home, as the saying goes a home 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:06.639 Huddersfield don't know if they'll have one of those. John 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.199 wrote about Keighley and the locals went mad. Saints needed 4 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.039 a win because last week was bad. Will London end 5 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:15.480 up in the Super League top tier? Are the NRL 6 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.800 giving up on it because that's the fear? Welcome to 7 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.320 the twenty ninth episode of Super League three sixtier podcast, 8 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:24.719 mostly about the top tier of British rugby league. But 9 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.399 we go off in random directions, don't we, Johnny Boy. 10 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:28.760 My name is Lee Addison. 11 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:30.800 My name is John Davidson. 12 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.399 I'm a coach in Australia. John a journalist in the 13 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:38.679 UK with swapped voices. I've got an English accent even 14 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.280 though of a live in Australia for the last twenty years. 15 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.359 John's lived who will be close to fourteen years now 16 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.520 I think in the UK and it still sounds Australian 17 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:51.719 apart from when he says things like catalans. Please read 18 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:55.280 previous descriptions or listen to all pods for more details. 19 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.159 Thanks to Rugby League dot Com who were taking this 20 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:01.600 and this will also be on the Rugby League Coach 21 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.040 YouTube channel and you'll be able to get it on 22 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.200 Rugby League Coach and that'sh your Rugby league podcast platforms 23 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.680 as well. The table, John, as we record, we've still 24 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.680 got Castleford and we leads for them leads to play 25 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:19.239 any any last minute predictions, you're changing your predictions from 26 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.439 last week before we before I start on the table, No. 27 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.120 I think I think you know, I think cast will 28 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.000 definitely have a dig. But I think you know, you 29 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:30.120 look at the format, leads are in top of the table. 30 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:34.239 The players that I have, yeah, they're they're massive favorite. 31 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:35.920 I mean, it would be a huge shock if if 32 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:38.040 the Targets managed to beat the Rhinos today. 33 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.159 Have Leeds lost of player this week for a. 34 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:44.560 Few weeks, I have the lost Palacena. I'm going to 35 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:46.280 say six weeks, but I could be wrong about that. 36 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.159 But who's been in a really good form? Actually a 37 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.920 prop been really good for them, But then they've been 38 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:53.920 quite lucky with injuries this year, Leads. When you look 39 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.560 at Saint Helens and Wigan and Warrington and pretty much 40 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.840 every other player the comp they've been quite fortunate with injuries, 41 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.640 So I think don't manage that well. 42 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:05.799 Part me wonders if the super League will be won 43 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.759 by the team that is the fittest survival of the fittest. 44 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.639 Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point. 45 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:14.680 There's four teams in the Super League as we record 46 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.520 right now. Okay, because we're doing this on Sunday night 47 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.560 Australian time Sunday morning UK time, so we can both 48 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.599 watch the World Cup final. Sounds like we'll be watching 49 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.319 that together. The way said that Castleford have only played eighteen, 50 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.800 Hulkingston Rovers have only played eighteen as I read out 51 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.199 this table, Warrington have only played eighteen and Leeds have 52 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:36.520 only played eighteen. And I'll start with Leeds who are 53 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.199 still at the top of the table with thirty points 54 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.080 despite playing one less game as we record right now. 55 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.479 But I think we both expect Leeds to be on 56 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:48.240 thirty two at the well, probably when you're listening to 57 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.039 this podcast. Wigan have brought their season back to life 58 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:56.240 somewhat think, and they're in second place. They've played nineteen 59 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.680 but they're on twenty eight points. Wakefield exactly the same 60 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.759 as them, but in third only below them one points difference. Warrington, 61 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.840 like I said, are on eighteen games, but they've got 62 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.199 twenty six points of their four points off the leaders 63 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.319 right now could be six. Lee Leopards are in fifth 64 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:17.719 and they've played the full compliment there on twenty four 65 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.240 as are Saint Helens who were on sixth. In sixth, 66 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:25.520 I should say Hulkinston Rovers slipped out the sixth john 67 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.719 they've only played eighteen so they've got that game against 68 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.360 Warrington to come that will be played sometime this century, 69 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:34.680 but they're on twenty two points. They're currently eight points 70 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.960 behind the leader Leeds before they play that game, so 71 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:41.639 their season seems to be going on a little bit 72 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.919 of a slide. And then we've got the Catalan Dragons 73 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:47.639 who are currently the French champions right now because they're 74 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:50.599 in eighth, played the full complement of games and they're 75 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.000 on sixteen points, but to lose a nipping at the heels. 76 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.360 Now they're on fourteen points and in ninth. York are 77 00:03:56.360 --> 00:04:02.000 in tenth on twelve, Bradford eleventh on twelve, Castleford twelve 78 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.319 on twelve unless they beat Leads today, which it's possible, 79 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:11.240 Whole FC are in thirteenth. They're going from that's worse. 80 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.960 I'd say they've played the full compliment around ten points, 81 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:18.199 and ers Field Giants have not moved off the bottom 82 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.720 of the ladder yet they're still on four points. Anything 83 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:22.839 jump out of the ladder there for you, John. 84 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.560 I think the big one is the slide of whole Kr. 85 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:29.959 I'm trying to think if it's three losses in a 86 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.079 rown hour four but they were well beaten by Warrington 87 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.399 on Saturday and they're really sliding down the table. They're 88 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.240 in danger of missing the top six. I think they're 89 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.079 their legal Leadershield hopes to defend out a well gone 90 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.519 but when you look at sin Ellen's showed a you 91 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.759 know a bit of hearts against cat Leans, against the 92 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.240 Paul Catalanz team on Friday, but you know they showed 93 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.360 a fair bit of quality and whole k are just 94 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.560 you know, going from bad to worse. It's it's a 95 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.240 seventeen race for the top six. Obviously Catalans are well 96 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.759 out of it, six points below whole Car in eight. 97 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:08.040 But I think, yeah, you look at that top six. 98 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.279 You've got Lee who are in excellent form, You've got 99 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:14.720 Wakefields or are an excellent form. You've got Leeds who 100 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.240 are an excellent form, and you've got Wigan who are 101 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.199 not in excellent form, but they find ways to win, 102 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.600 you know that, which they did against Haddersfield, and they 103 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.920 did against WARRENTONTOI before and Warrenton you know first winning 104 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.519 a little while, but they shared a lot of grid 105 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.639 as well. So yeah, I think it's some danger signs 106 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.680 for whole K. Are the defending. 107 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.360 Champions you led with whole K are there? When you 108 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.079 reflected on the ladder in your notes to me, you 109 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.759 call them Dad's army? Is a squad in need of 110 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.399 a refreshed genre as Nathan Kayless got his work cut out. 111 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.040 Is Willie Peters leaving at the right time? 112 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.240 Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's leaving at 113 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.560 the right time, but I had a look. I was 114 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.240 actually chatting to a Whole Health k R fan this 115 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.160 week before the game on Saturday and wanted to get 116 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.839 their thoughts on you know, what's what's gone wrong this 117 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.399 year in the sense that they're not you know, they're 118 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.399 in sevens, but there's been Okay, they didn't start the 119 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.000 season great, but you know, they've not been horrible all season, 120 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.800 but they've not been obviously the highest standards they were 121 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.000 last year and the year before, and having a look 122 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.279 at the squad, it is a very old squad. I'd 123 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:21.600 say the majority of players are thirty or just over. 124 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:26.160 There's not really a lot of youth coming through or 125 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.720 no youth really, and I think it's a very top 126 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.839 heavy squad in terms of the There isn't a lot 127 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:35.360 of depth outside that first nineteen to twenty players. And 128 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:37.519 I think the other element is kind of fatigue. I 129 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:41.399 think winning a travel is a massive, massive achievement, which 130 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.800 they did last year, but this year they've had the 131 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.839 World Club Challenge, They've been to Vegas and I think 132 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.360 you know, what they did last year was taking a 133 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.399 lot out of them, and then the trips that they've 134 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:55.279 had this year, So you can also argue whether the fatigue, 135 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:58.120 sorry not the fatigue the lack of hunger this year too. 136 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.519 You know, I think winning a title is huge, but 137 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.160 defending it successfully is even harder, isn't it in world sport? 138 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:08.600 And you sort of wonder whether those standards are there. So, yeah, 139 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.399 it's Nathan Chaos, I think has probably got a bigger 140 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.519 job on his hands than he would have thought, probably 141 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:18.639 initially taking on the job. And then you look at 142 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.439 what's happened with Michael Lewis as well, particularly on Saturday. 143 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:23.240 But it's not the first time this year that he's 144 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.959 run a foul of referees, or you could say his 145 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:28.079 petulance has taken over. 146 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.839 When you were talking, then the recording cut out slightly. 147 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:36.079 It sounded like you said, Nathan chaos or maybe he's 148 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:40.639 inheriting some some chaos. Mikey Lewis. Mikey Lewis has shown 149 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:46.000 a few petulumt moments this season. To me, this could 150 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.240 have been nipped in the bood very early, but it 151 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:50.319 seems to keep happening. What's the goal there? 152 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.160 Well, on Saturday, obviously there was the headbart that I 153 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.240 still don't know how the referee or the video referee 154 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.519 didn't pick it up and went on paying punished, just 155 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:06.439 stupid head butt unnecessarily on I think it was Holroyd 156 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:07.240 and warrant he did. 157 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:08.839 He did a trip the week before the World Club 158 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:10.199 Challenge as well against you. 159 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:14.199 Yes there was yeah, and he's done another trip earlier 160 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:16.879 later on in this season as well. So there's those incidents. 161 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:18.759 But on Saturday there was the head button. Then later 162 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:21.800 on he you and I when had passed the ball 163 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:23.480 when he came in with a swinging arm and hit him. 164 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.519 He got simp in for that, but he should have 165 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.600 been sent off for the head butt. And I would 166 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:31.920 imagine on Monday he's set for I'd say at least 167 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:36.360 three weeks probably, And you know, I think he's he's 168 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.000 always looked. You could say it's about a lot of 169 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:40.960 champion players. They've always had a bit of grub in them. 170 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.240 You know, I think Wally Lewis had a bit of grub. 171 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.000 You've got to be very tough, but I think Michael 172 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.720 Lewis has always had that kind of temperament issue that 173 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.279 he gets white wound up and he's he's very competitive, 174 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:53.759 but he loses his head at times. 175 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.000 The different the difference with Wally Lewis's era and the 176 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.399 modern era is that everybody's got a smartphone in the 177 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:03.559 pocket and there's more cameras out every game, and it's 178 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:05.519 just you know, if you want to if you want 179 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.480 to behave like that, Mike, you go to UFC. Look. 180 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.600 My message to Mikey Lewis is, yes, you're a talented player. 181 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.480 I stopped short of calling you a champion player like 182 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.120 John did, because there's still plenty of deficiencies in your 183 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.600 game and if you really want to be remembered as 184 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:23.159 somebody really special, Mikey. Keep working on your game, keep 185 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.320 getting better every year, and this year you've definitely regressed, 186 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:30.240 and your behavior has regressed, and you aren't going to 187 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.440 be remembered for much longer than the time that you're 188 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.440 playing if you keep carrying on like this. Mate. I'm 189 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.600 hoping that I'm absolutely wrong, and I hope you prove 190 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:45.440 you prove me and anybody who's criticizing you wrong, because honestly, mate, 191 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.360 you've got all the talent in the world, and you 192 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.120 had the world at your feet last year, but you've 193 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:56.120 just not kicked on. Bradford twelve Wakefield twenty six tries 194 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:59.519 for Bradford to Ryan Acting and two goals to Hooley 195 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:04.840 and Wakefield twenty six came from Johnston tape Pits Rourke Smith. 196 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.080 Rourke kicked three goals and apparently Bradford had a bit 197 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.759 of a scare. I'll leave the match report or the 198 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.159 start of the match report to our friend James Varley, 199 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.840 who I was going to say, brave the cold. But 200 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:19.840 it's been a heat wave in the UK, hasn't it. No, 201 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:23.320 Probably still probably still is a oddsle though that's true, 202 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.679 he said. Not a bad effort by Bradford generally, but 203 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.519 their goal line defense was alarmingly poor at times. J 204 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.480 Pitts went through a huge gap to score a try 205 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.080 at first. Receiver Kyle Amore described it as alarming at 206 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.799 this level. They got away with a similar thing later 207 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.159 in the half when a Wakefield player lost possession after 208 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.759 going into a huge gap again. Then later Bradford considered 209 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.039 a soft try from dummy half and then he added 210 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:50.919 over seven thousand there and Wakefield brought a good visiting support. 211 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:53.440 It seems their support base has risen as much as 212 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.399 their position on the ladder has. Can you add to 213 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:56.840 that shot? 214 00:10:57.480 --> 00:10:59.519 Yeah, I thought, I thought that Bradford had a real dig. 215 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.440 It was a horrendous start for Bradford. The Wakefield kicked 216 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.559 off and it was a bit of smoke from the 217 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.919 pyros and everything, but Nicema fumbled the kickoff, it went 218 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.240 it went out, So basically Wakefield had a set on 219 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.000 Bradford's line and scored pretty much early on. So it 220 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.240 was as bad as a start of a game you 221 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:21.960 could have. They came back. I thought, you know, early 222 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:23.600 on it looked like a Wakefield are going to really 223 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.360 put a number on them. They didn't, and Bradford came 224 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:29.279 back quite into it made it very competitive. But yeah, 225 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:31.679 I think it's a it's really a Wakefield story at 226 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.159 the moment. I don't know how many how many games 227 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:38.320 they've won, but they were up to second before Wigan 228 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:41.080 played on on Friday and you know, sitting in third. 229 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:44.200 When you look at where that club was probably three 230 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:48.759 years ago, definitely four years ago, it is a remarkable turnaround. 231 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:53.159 So it's great to see Wakefield doing so well. And 232 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:57.840 you know, I think personally it's hard to look beyond 233 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.360 Leeds or Wigan this year, but I think Wakefield had 234 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.759 definitely got that kind of X factor and are a 235 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.039 bit of a bit of a dark horse. 236 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:09.720 Saint Helen's thirty four Catalans eighteen Saint Helens through Cartwright 237 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.879 Campbell got two tries, Robertson two and wells By Hastings 238 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.720 kicked five goals. I hope that wasn't Gavin Hastings of 239 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.159 the rugby Union in the late eighties and early nineties. 240 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:22.080 He'd be getting on a little bit now. Catalans eighteen 241 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.960 came from stains Quatrick who got two and Asparol BChE 242 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.120 got three. They had a debutante, Jack Campbell, who was 243 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.480 a teenager, scoring twice for Saint Helens, and probably a 244 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:36.320 bit of a what the doctor ordered after what happened 245 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:37.799 last week at Saint Helen's. 246 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:42.320 Yeah, yeah, they'd been pillared from from post to post 247 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:47.519 by everyone, by thought, by their own coach, by their 248 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:50.840 own fans, by everyone in the regular league because they 249 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.080 were so poor. And yeah, it was a big turnaround 250 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.480 against Catlins. I don't think, you know, Catalans were pretty average, 251 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:00.559 but I think from the sim Helen's point, they blooded 252 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.080 a lot of players that you know, that Jack Campbell 253 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:06.639 fantastic story. You know, I fall back hadn't you know, 254 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:08.559 didn't know he was playing until eleven thirty on the 255 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.639 day of the game, got the call all that playing 256 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:14.759 when you look like I think he's eighteen or something. Yeah, 257 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:16.559 around that he looked like he was about twelve. But 258 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:21.279 fantastic performance, a great Mayor of the match interview, and yeah, 259 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:26.080 so that Albe's a really much needed victory for them. Yeah, 260 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:29.840 it's not been a great season and there's been a 261 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:33.639 lot of questions and a lot of unhappiness around the club, 262 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.799 but yeah, a winners as to certainly what they needed. 263 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.200 Paul School thought ripton a little bit. He said, well, 264 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:41.919 basically had a goal with the recruitment, didn't he. 265 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:45.679 Yeah, I think he's right there. He's definitely right about 266 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:46.240 the recruitment. 267 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:48.679 Yeah. Yeah, he didn't pull any punches in the article 268 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:49.879 he wrote in the local paper. 269 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.879 No, no, he didn't. He called out quite a few 270 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:58.600 players individually. Yeah. I think, you know, we talked a 271 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.039 fair bit about this last week, but the club's definitely 272 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.799 in the rebuild and I think recruitment wise, they've probably 273 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.679 not been investing the money they have previously, and I 274 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:10.440 think they've they've recruited perhaps on the cheap, and I 275 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.559 think that's reflected and I think they might be you know, 276 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:15.639 there's a poor role is definitely trying to put your 277 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:19.159 stamp on the club, and I think that's probably put 278 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:21.720 a few noses out of joint as some of the 279 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.039 existing members of players and staff. And there's been a 280 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.639 huge turn over of staff as well. So yeah, it's 281 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.759 certainly a new eras in Helen. We will have to 282 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.639 see longer term how successful it is. But I think 283 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:39.399 Friday night's result was much needed because the tou Loose 284 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.120 game was a massive oappointing. 285 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.679 So, like you said, we spoke about last week. Do 286 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:46.759 you reckon Paul Schoolthorpe just listened to our pod and 287 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:51.519 just put it all through write me a column this week? 288 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:53.879 No, No, I don't think you did. I think I 289 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:58.080 think Paul's been pretty outspoken and pretty critical as as 290 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:03.600 is his writers of Shalman's legend all season. Yeah, I don't. 291 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:06.840 I don't think sen Hill's performances this season have been great. Look, 292 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:10.279 they are sixth at the moment. I don't think they've 293 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:13.960 ever not made the six in the history of Super League, 294 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:17.399 and I still will make it. But obviously we've got 295 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.000 what eight games to go, so anything can happen at 296 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.440 that point. I think it's probably a If you look 297 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.639 at the form guide as well, it's a two two 298 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.000 teams shootout for that six spot between Saint Helens and 299 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.639 wholek Are. So whoever does miss it out will be yeah, 300 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:32.879 will not be happy. 301 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.519 Huddersfield ten wig and twenty four Milne, gag Guy and 302 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.519 Flannagan with a scorers. Flannagan with the boot, the other 303 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:45.120 two with the hands for Huddersfield and Wiggans tries came 304 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.600 from Partington and three to Eckersley and care and kick 305 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:54.480 four goals or Zach Eckersley Zach Eckersley's hat trick. Whenever 306 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.320 I see the surname Eckersley, always think of the Northern 307 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:58.879 saying is he eckers Like? 308 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:02.399 I haven't heard that one, but I'll take your word 309 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:03.480 for it. Is he is? 310 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.519 He? Is he a good blog? Is he eckers Like? 311 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:07.120 I is he? K? 312 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:10.320 Did you see that game? John? 313 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.879 I did? I did. Look. I think we've we've given 314 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.240 it to harddest field all season with good reason, and 315 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:20.919 they were very good. I think they were very lucky 316 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:24.240 not to come away with the win this game. They 317 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:27.039 played so much better than I have in recent weeks. 318 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.480 I had a few refereeing decisions which I think were 319 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.799 quite harsh. There was a ball steal that Harry Smith 320 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:38.120 did that wasn't called, which it was a two men 321 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:40.120 tackle and he was definitely playing at the ball, so 322 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.039 and then Joe Greenwen was sort of protesting about that 323 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:45.080 and he got simmined after that. So that was a 324 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.639 very I think the game was tied at that point. 325 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:49.360 That was a huge turning point. And there was also 326 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.279 the George Flannigan pass which he was running making a 327 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:54.960 break and passed on the inside for support. It was 328 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.519 ruled forward. I'm not sure if that was forward. Obviously 329 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:02.360 running momentum carries the ball forward because running at speed. 330 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.599 But look from the hardest field point view, they didn't 331 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.680 get a win, but this was much much better performance 332 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:10.640 from then Wigan. We're not at their best. There was 333 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:12.440 quite a few errors, but again I found a wuty 334 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.920 to win, which is just what Wigan did. A Wigan 335 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:15.519 do don't they? 336 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.640 I think we can. I think Huddersfield sometimes two teams 337 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:24.000 play each other, two boxers fight, two teams play each other, 338 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.000 and for some reason, even though the ladder or performances 339 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.000 against everyone else wouldn't suggest this would happen, that team 340 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:38.079 or that individual just has the ward over. I think 341 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:43.680 there's a little bit of that. Eleven straight defeats for 342 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.960 Hudersfield now and something came out this week. I only 343 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.319 briefly saw it. They apparently don't know literally right now 344 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.240 where they'll be playing next season. Can you give us 345 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:55.119 any update on that? 346 00:17:57.119 --> 00:17:59.720 Not In terms of hard news, I'm just going to 347 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:05.279 bring up the statement about Ken Davey stepping down as 348 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.960 as chairman. He's remaining his own as the owner, sorry, 349 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:13.079 as the as the moneyman. But yeah, he's stepping down 350 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:17.960 as as chairman. But I think with the Haddersfield look, yeah, 351 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.599 the performance on Friday was much much better, exactly what 352 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.160 the fans would have seen that really, you know, the 353 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.240 players were giving their or which was which was great. 354 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:28.200 But off the field, look, there's still there's still huge issues. 355 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.200 Richard Field, as the managing director, gave an interview at 356 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.079 halftime against win game where it's just a lot of 357 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.720 sound whites and a lot of nothing, like, you know, 358 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:37.640 we can't say much, but you know, we've come back 359 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:39.119 to me in a month and we'll have big news 360 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.200 and all this sort of thing. And it's a bit 361 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.119 it's a bit like the statement about Ken Davey stepping down. 362 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.039 You know, it's a long statement that was made, you know, 363 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.839 to be honest, wasn't particularly well written. But in an 364 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.079 he says, behind the scenes, the club is taking massive 365 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:55.880 and exciting strides, including the Giants state of the art 366 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:58.480 training facility in gym which will shortly open at Lord Hill. 367 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:00.880 I know this facility will with the end of Super 368 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.880 Big as it's the outstanding Giants Community Trust. This is 369 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.880 almost certainly Regular Lead's most successful Childeral Trust and includes 370 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:08.640 the zone on St Andrews Road that for almost twenty 371 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:10.559 years hold many thousand young Peoplehen I just have fun 372 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:14.319 and get fit. Now. It's great that they're going to 373 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:18.079 have a fantastic training facility, but you know that's not 374 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.799 really the most important thing is that, like you know this, 375 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.440 I can remember Castleford in what was at twenty seventeen 376 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:27.720 when they topped the league and they were training basically 377 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:28.720 in a shed out the back. 378 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:32.599 Did Luke Robinson complain about training fields before the job? 379 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:36.759 Not? Not, not publicly, No, But you know that it's 380 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:39.279 really about you know, fans want to see your players 381 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:40.880 have a dig and they want to see I obviously 382 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:42.559 want to see wins, but you can't win every week, 383 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:44.359 but they want to see players. 384 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:46.680 I just don't. I don't see the relevance of that 385 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:49.880 statement when your team's lost eleven straight. I mean, no, no, 386 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.319 this doesn't fans does it. This statement was midweek, it 387 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:56.279 wasn't after the all right times straight then come straight? 388 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.240 Then yeah, I don't understand that state them. 389 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:02.720 I no, no, no, no. And then there's a bit about 390 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:05.599 the community trust where it's like it's most rugby leagu's 391 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.319 most successful, is it I mean that's pretty questionable. It's 392 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.599 very arguable against that. And then you know there's a 393 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.079 lot of talk about commercial partners and watch this space 394 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.039 and you know there's just a lot of a lot 395 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:21.119 of words to basically and that was the same with 396 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.839 Richard Dalls, which was halftime on the game on on 397 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:27.960 on Friday. Look, I think they'll probably be playing at Jewsbury. 398 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.400 We've already spoken. It feels like we talk about hard 399 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:34.720 set every week. But if you move, you know, it's 400 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.079 pretty pretty much proven across most sports, particularly in rugby league. 401 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.720