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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how are you come on in. Let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>chair and talk. I'm still climbing pyramids right now, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is pre recorded. I'm in Guatemala at this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably in Elmador, hoping to meet Richard Hanson. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Richard Hanson's the archaeologist in charge of the excavation

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<v Speaker 2>of Elmador in the Elmador Basin. If he's not there,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we have free reign to climb the Ldonta Complex. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>those are some of the largest pyramids in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I've seen pictures of these pyramids, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which ones are the ones that are

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<v Speaker 2>excavated and consolidated to a fashion that we can actually

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<v Speaker 2>climb them. But I'm really excited about it. I have

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<v Speaker 2>purchased a special strap for my backpack that allows my

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<v Speaker 2>camera to sit right up above my shoulder and I

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<v Speaker 2>can climb comfortably without holding on to a camera. So

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<v Speaker 2>I can climb these pyramids, and I'm going to try to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna climb them, and I'm going to film them

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<v Speaker 2>so you get a sense of just how big these

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<v Speaker 2>pyramids are I've seen, Like I said, I've seen pictures

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<v Speaker 2>in their monsters. They're huge. They're the largest pyramids in

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<v Speaker 2>the Americas. And I'm like, and I'm bringing really rudimentary

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<v Speaker 2>EMF electromagnetic frequency testing equipment because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>drag a bunch of heavy stuff. I don't have really

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<v Speaker 2>sophisticated equipment. I use an iPhone that has an MF

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<v Speaker 2>scanner on it so I can tell what's buzzing and

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<v Speaker 2>what's not. But this is gonna be exciting for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said before, it's like one of the pieces

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go forever. And why I haven't gone sooner,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Probably because Lydia and her husband Arturo

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<v Speaker 2>not only invited me, but I decided to bring a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people with me too. We'll have like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>people with us. And the beauty of this tour is

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<v Speaker 2>that we are walking among the pyramids, walking among the temples,

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<v Speaker 2>working with shaman. You can't do that in Mexico. You

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<v Speaker 2>just cannot do that in Mexico. It's really a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>And whenever I'm in Yucatan, Mexico, I'm like, I'm saddened

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<v Speaker 2>because the local Mayan community, isn't a law allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>interact with the pyramids. They can freely walk among the

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<v Speaker 2>tourists that are there, and you'll see them selling their

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<v Speaker 2>goods and wares in and out of the archaeological parks there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, luckily, there's only a handful of these ruins,

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<v Speaker 2>these cities that are accessible for the general public, which

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<v Speaker 2>means that there's a far greater number that are available

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<v Speaker 2>to the local Maya community, and that allows them to

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<v Speaker 2>climb among them. But they're not consolidated, they're not excavated,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can be dangerous. So anyhow, I promise to

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<v Speaker 2>get back with all kinds of fun stuff to listen,

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<v Speaker 2>to see and to contemplate what is up with these buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole feeling, and I say this on Earth Ancients,

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<v Speaker 2>is that there needs to be a new body of

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<v Speaker 2>research in the same way that archaeo astronomy was added

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<v Speaker 2>to archaeology about twenty years ago, maybe a little longer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there needs to be a field of tolluric

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<v Speaker 2>energy scan or tolluric study where a course is taught

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<v Speaker 2>on understanding geomagnetic anomalies. And we know throughout Mexico. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just countless geological anomalies. They're gravitational. Some of these sculptures

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<v Speaker 2>that are well known have been found to have magnetic

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<v Speaker 2>properties to them. And it's not a casual sculpturing sculpting

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on. They actually choose stones that have have

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<v Speaker 2>been are magnetized or they have certain properties in them

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<v Speaker 2>that are anomalists that are very strong. We just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how they were used. But we need to find

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<v Speaker 2>this out because many times the pyramids are built over

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<v Speaker 2>these fields, these energy fields, and we know from certain

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<v Speaker 2>elders that they were purposely placed over these anomalists energy features.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, more to come, stay tuned for that. Today's

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<v Speaker 2>program is on plant Power, and what this means is

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<v Speaker 2>that my guest today is providing a reference guide in

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<v Speaker 2>this book, actually the books called plant Power and recommending

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<v Speaker 2>that people consider eating more plant based products like mushrooms, herbs,

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<v Speaker 2>and even flowers as a healing remedy and also to

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<v Speaker 2>balance the body. And you know, for years I would

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<v Speaker 2>see people eating flowers. I'm here in northern California, so

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<v Speaker 2>people eat eating flowers. But it's funny because you see

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<v Speaker 2>them eating certain kinds of flowers, and some of them

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<v Speaker 2>are actually tasty. And I don't know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>had a lettuce salad that had flower buds and leaves

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<v Speaker 2>on them as a addition, but they're very, very tasty

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<v Speaker 2>and they're very very good for you. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>learn why we should be eating more flowers, more plant

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<v Speaker 2>based products, and we're gonna get a sense with this

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<v Speaker 2>reference guide just what's in our backyard. Because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>Some of this material that's featured in this reference guide

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<v Speaker 2>flowers and herbs, and it is quite unique because it

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<v Speaker 2>discusses not only the American diet, which is terrible, but

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<v Speaker 2>medicinal plants that are really good for wellness. My guest

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<v Speaker 2>today is Walter by Dan Dyke, and he is coming

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<v Speaker 2>to us from Amsterdam, am And this book came out

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<v Speaker 2>a few months ago and it's a perfect fit for

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<v Speaker 2>Destiny because not only does it identify wellness secrets, but

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<v Speaker 2>many of the remedies are really easy to come around with.

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<v Speaker 2>So Walter, welcome to Destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing man, Thank you so much, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much, Cliff, and you pronounce my name very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I practiced. I practiced. Talk about this book. You

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<v Speaker 2>and your brother your put it together. And you guys

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<v Speaker 2>traveled the planet for like for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess right, Yeah, I traveled yeah, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in my life for sure, for twenty years. I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>forty seventy years old, and yeah, as a child, actually

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<v Speaker 1>my parents always took We had a house in Amsterdam

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<v Speaker 1>where we lived in the city during the week and

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<v Speaker 1>in the weekends and in all the holidays we always

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Belgium or Dence, you know, the it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a mountainous area near Luxembourg, the border of

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<v Speaker 1>Luxembourg and in Belgium actually about three three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half hours drive from Amsterdam. Every Friday we went there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we grew up in the forest, in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the wilderness. And yeah, our own vegetable garden and

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<v Speaker 1>fruit trees in the in the weekends and fires and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and my parents always give us just like

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<v Speaker 1>a pocket knife and a book of matches and and

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<v Speaker 1>kick under our ass and govern the forest. And at

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<v Speaker 1>six o'clock my father flew it on his fingers like

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had to come up from the valley

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<v Speaker 1>and eat. And then in Amsterdam it was just city live,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cultural life. And but then later I started

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<v Speaker 1>to travel a bit because my friends and my school

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<v Speaker 1>always or sometimes went to Indonesia and all these far

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<v Speaker 1>destinations that I thought, wow, I wanted to see that

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<v Speaker 1>also with my own eyes so far, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>never went so far once to the Lake of Uneca

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<v Speaker 1>that's in France, like eight hours drive life and wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to And that was it basically in my youth and

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<v Speaker 1>this fascination of traveling. My grandfather he was a actually

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties onwards, he actually already went to India

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<v Speaker 1>before all the hippies went there to learn to meditate

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<v Speaker 1>and to learn to uh yeah, empty his mind and

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<v Speaker 1>it's working.

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<v Speaker 2>You're kiddingly. Your grandfather was a futurist. I guess he

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<v Speaker 2>to learn how to meditate. That's very advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he learned learned how to meditate and uh that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty advanced in that time. People always have

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<v Speaker 1>been meditating, you know, but it was pretty somehow advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>I just walked upstairs because my neighbors started to drill

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, so I took little little other spent where

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<v Speaker 1>it's more quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>So Walter, one of the things I failed to mention

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<v Speaker 2>is that you are an anthropology specializing in ethnobotany and pharmacology.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the Dutch education like because here in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States anthropology is unique. But to capture ethnobotany as

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<v Speaker 2>well as pharmacology, that's a unique study.

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<v Speaker 1>How does this in the Netlands? That study you mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in the pharmacognosy is a study of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand year pharmacy knowledge, you know, like what molecules are

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<v Speaker 1>in in which plant parts day can be found, how

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<v Speaker 1>to extract them? What is the does it? How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you take to make it the beneficial like functional

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<v Speaker 1>medicinal quality that you want to achieve, and everything about

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<v Speaker 1>the medicinal qualities of plants and the clinical use of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like provable molecular stuff like natural espirines that you can

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<v Speaker 1>prove like the same like an espiring you buying in

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<v Speaker 1>the pharmacy or something. And uh, that study in the

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<v Speaker 1>Netlands is actually how do you say? My wife just

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<v Speaker 1>comes it's much better in English. I'm also pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>in English. But it was actually very bizarre. A neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>drilling the wall, I say, I don't hear.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear the drillians. So you're good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good. You just continue to normally they stood

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<v Speaker 1>this this in the universities when you study pharmacy, when

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<v Speaker 1>you study medicine or something, there's this study always in it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that you have to learn is

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<v Speaker 1>farm more cognitcy. But it's not subsidized anymore by the

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<v Speaker 1>government because in the netlus studies are not so expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'll pay like two and a half thousands

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<v Speaker 1>or three thousand dollars a year and the rest is

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<v Speaker 1>paid by the government. For everybody, no matter how old

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<v Speaker 1>you are, or from which kind of family are, or

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<v Speaker 1>from which kind of background or whatever you are. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>have the same right to get subsidized or university studies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But they took away the money for that

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<v Speaker 1>part department in all the universities almost so it's now

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<v Speaker 1>on a sort of uh they say, I said did

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<v Speaker 1>in the comm the com the Complementary and Alternative medicine

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<v Speaker 1>in Utet in the city in the Netherlands, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>only found instic it's just gold. It's very sad because

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<v Speaker 1>for me it's one of the most important parts of

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<v Speaker 1>pharmacy because also my uncle he's a pharmacist, and so

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<v Speaker 1>one of the brother of my father, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very important. You know, I come from this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of family. But I'm myself an anthropologist. I'm a musiologist,

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<v Speaker 1>anthropologist and no botanist and specialized in the use of

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<v Speaker 1>medicinal or ritual plans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll talk about yours because yours is a a

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<v Speaker 2>chef and he is contributing to the book as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it together. I wrote the book. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>from from the Netlands, Amsterdam. There he has a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>developed the reason I wrote the book. I gave all

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<v Speaker 1>plants that you the qualities, the properties, the medicinal provable

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<v Speaker 1>qualities of the plants and uh right, also in the

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<v Speaker 1>experience that define within and also in your surroundings. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this, this is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>curious about, is it. It looks like in your travels,

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<v Speaker 2>your your travels and your brother's travels, you detected that

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<v Speaker 2>there's some dietary deficiencies, and not only the American diet,

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<v Speaker 2>but perhaps the European diet. And this is critically important

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<v Speaker 2>to address because we're having immune problems, we're having gut

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about it. So so was it your goal

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<v Speaker 1>Only goal, but it's one of the goals a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>As you rightly described that, I'm just somebody that's curious

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<v Speaker 1>when I had a certain there's a certain back injury

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<v Speaker 1>that got cured. We can really talk about it. The

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also a levitator, a magician. I learned an art

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<v Speaker 1>also did brand activations for certain rends. They like my

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<v Speaker 1>sort of capacities as a performer, and I levitated twelve

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<v Speaker 1>square and Alsam called the sto inspired by Marguerite that's

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<v Speaker 1>with the umbrella that could fly. Yeah, so they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to a new logo. There was a man and a

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<v Speaker 1>with I with the umbrella was floating twelve its high.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so scary. It was wind power six or

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<v Speaker 1>ten or like hardcore in October. And I was so

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<v Speaker 1>back by by resisting that. You know, everybody didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>If my wife at that time didn't want to come.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole which press was down on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole corfstat certain street in Amsterdam where the

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<v Speaker 1>me and okay, the beck got so injured that I

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<v Speaker 1>walked around for seven years in the nels almost diagonal,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't drive, mccartnemore, couldn't sit on a chair, and whe

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<v Speaker 1>had to lie down all the time, fifteen minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>recover from the pain's tremendous and nobody could cure it.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried everything mentioned, deep automanual therapy, visio therapy, I

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<v Speaker 1>took runch and pictures. It was completely destroyed. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a technical story that I could give you,

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<v Speaker 1>but not necessary now. And that finally I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do a performance in Surinam. That's the country in the

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<v Speaker 1>eastern Amazon rainforest in South America, a former colony of

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands, where I had to do a show for

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<v Speaker 1>the Miss India election. And then before I went there,

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<v Speaker 1>there were not so many books written about Surinam. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a book called Creetings to the Queen by kr and Aama,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a story about a mother and a son

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<v Speaker 1>who has oscio perosa. That's the bone disease that the

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<v Speaker 1>heads of your bones scramble down and incurable here in

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<v Speaker 1>the West. And it also only starts after fifty or

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<v Speaker 1>something fifty five. But this guy was twelve years old

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<v Speaker 1>and he had this already in the doctor and then

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<v Speaker 1>Aland said, there's no medicine for it. Sorry to say so,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have nothing here in Western medicine that can

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<v Speaker 1>solve it. What that can give you a twice is

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<v Speaker 1>to use a wheelchair and walking stick, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>scramble too fast, you know, so you can have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit less spain and a little less scrambling. So

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<v Speaker 1>the bones basically, yeah, disappear in your in your wrists

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<v Speaker 1>and things and your knees and all that. So his

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<v Speaker 1>life was fucked, you know, like shit. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>had they went to surname, and they went to a

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<v Speaker 1>man called Packet's a bone master. It's a Maroon and

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<v Speaker 1>a descendant of the escaped slaves from from the Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>that escaped in the forest. They went in safety dent,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with like on their own independence in the forest,

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<v Speaker 1>and they escape such slave drivers. And they have a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous power. These people. I met them, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>them and I respect them very much. And they have

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<v Speaker 1>a power that we don't have to survive in these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of circumstances in the middle of the rainforest in

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<v Speaker 1>another country and things like that. And they took knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>from Africa that we don't have here in the West

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<v Speaker 1>or you know. And they are the masters of the bones.

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<v Speaker 1>They can melt bones, they can grow bones back wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you want. They can make spaghetti from any part on

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<v Speaker 1>the bone your body, with herbs and roots and plants

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<v Speaker 1>and oils from the Amazon rainforest. They use two component

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<v Speaker 1>system like the glue you use two component clube, but

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<v Speaker 1>they use it for bone melting and reparation. And one

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<v Speaker 1>substance that you put like with the sort of plaster

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<v Speaker 1>on your back, melts the bones to make it very

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<v Speaker 1>flexible like a spaghetti in the other just drows bones

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you put it. In long time, I said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you canna cure me, it's got to be the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>miracle of my life. I'm a miracle creator. I'm a magician.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a mentalist. That's my job. If this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, man, you this is the greatest miracle of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. He said, just believe it, man, just believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, okay. He said, it's not a small

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<v Speaker 1>be solved within about five months. And he said, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the amount I have to play? We said He

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<v Speaker 1>said one thousand, Sure, a means dollar. That's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty euros. That's like a month's salary in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's a different economy again, but at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>like a month early for it's like a teacher or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, okay, in my for my budget and

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<v Speaker 1>spit much, I said, okay, but okay, yeah, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars untable, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, okay, I'll give you them money here

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<v Speaker 1>and the deed like this super deal man, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this cliff is very inspiring for me. In the art

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<v Speaker 1>of medicine. Hearing the nonledge you pay every month insurance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody is insured for healthcare, you know healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>insurance you pay like two thousand dollars a year and

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody get any treatments that you need for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you have. And that's a lot of money for some

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<v Speaker 1>people there. You pay just one price for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your life medice, until you get cured or whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you need it. That's the price.

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<v Speaker 2>And where was he located again.

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<v Speaker 1>Near the capitol of Surinam in Amazon rainforest is Amazon Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the rain rainforest. Talked about it most the first

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<v Speaker 1>place in the planet. So that was that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>that must have shifted your man that killed me, And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, wow, this is so miraculous. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do something with it. I'm gonna uh uh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>study pharma cognosy. And then I started scudy pharmacogniti to

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<v Speaker 1>put his plants into the eyes of the Western people

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<v Speaker 1>and explain how they work more locularly and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>With your that I just had to introduce how I

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<v Speaker 1>got into this complete fascination with plants, and your question

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<v Speaker 1>on that and how I'm interested in that. That developed

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<v Speaker 1>also in the time, I thought also how because of

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<v Speaker 1>my travels through the Arctic Circle, through the desert, how

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<v Speaker 1>can people resist and still stay alive in the Saphara,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Sahara, the African desert, northern Africa, or

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<v Speaker 1>in the Polar Circle where I performed in Loveland. Because

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<v Speaker 1>about immunity from the Sami people, for example, that are

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<v Speaker 1>the inhabitants of Northern Europe, the indigenous you know of

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Europe, Sami. It's a culture of nomadic earders. They

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<v Speaker 1>for example, they use some techniques. They use sunnas of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like to heat up the body and to go in

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<v Speaker 1>the cult war to give power to immunity, and they

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<v Speaker 1>use a certain mrsiroom called Jaga Jaga mersroom in the

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<v Speaker 1>affilanties is called Kappa. And they used resistance and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's proven by a Western pharmacognosine in many double blind

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<v Speaker 1>stuities that you can't find bad medicinal database like this

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<v Speaker 1>musiom built your immune system. But I wrote this book

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<v Speaker 1>in the pandemic when I couldn't perform, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a performer. It was not allowed in an Etherlands for

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<v Speaker 1>performers to make gatherings with audiences. So all the performers

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<v Speaker 1>had to do in the house prison time for two years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And first I played three to six hours

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<v Speaker 1>the bound story flute that's an Indian side flu that

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<v Speaker 1>you hold horizontally to durw myself back. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, I'm going to write the book about

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<v Speaker 1>the medicinal plans that I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share all the knowledge I gathered in

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<v Speaker 1>all my travels as a magician and anthropologists, and no

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<v Speaker 1>botanists in South India where I lived for my final

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<v Speaker 1>graduation project for the University of Empsoney and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to share this knowledge to the world. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give a gift to humanity, you know. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the book. And I was frustrated a little bit by

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<v Speaker 1>the got government that they also for external means to

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<v Speaker 1>help people, like masks on the face and the injections

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, which I think it is good to

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccinate yourself or whatever. But this castle was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit over craziness and all kinds of external means to

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<v Speaker 1>protect yourself from something dangerous. Okay, I thought with the government,

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<v Speaker 1>don't teaches how to build power from inside, which is

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<v Speaker 1>also a capacity that we need. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>take cold shower every day, it helps a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>If you eat certain foods, especially when you're good. You

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<v Speaker 1>asked us about the good the intestine. The one doctor

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<v Speaker 1>from Switzerland, it was called doctor Foch. He said, death

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<v Speaker 1>is in the good. The resistance of the body. Most

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<v Speaker 1>important is the good. You know, where all the bacteria live.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has like four kilos of bacteria. And the intestine

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<v Speaker 1>that we needed help us digestre and foods and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that everybody have that we are actually made of

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<v Speaker 1>many entities that live in us. You know. Also, virus

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<v Speaker 1>are already innocted. Sometimes we just need and in the

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<v Speaker 1>good of everybody is so billions of bacteria that you need.

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<v Speaker 1>In these bacteria, I learned by reading so many books

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<v Speaker 1>help us to resist against other pathogen that illmakers, that

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<v Speaker 1>can break down the immunity system or something. And I

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<v Speaker 1>read all these different things, and I'm so fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>that because I see that in so many environments. And

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<v Speaker 1>I read studies about bets why they are so strong,

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<v Speaker 1>They have so strong immunity, and they can become quite

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<v Speaker 1>old for animals of that size, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, hey, and I read about it that they can,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, fly from very hot caves where they live

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<v Speaker 1>to very cold outside and they live all together so

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<v Speaker 1>many they get built so strong resistance, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just fascinated from scientific provable things how a human

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<v Speaker 1>can be strong by itself, you know. And yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the things I'm fascinated by.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>with my guests today Walter by din Dyke coming to

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<v Speaker 2>us from the Netherlands, will be right back. I often

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<v Speaker 2>talk about my deep depression when my grandfather died. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a devastating event in my life and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know where to turn. I was just depressed. I was unhappy,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't doing well at my work. If it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for a therapist, I don't know what I would have done.

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<v Speaker 2>I went for at least I think it was over

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half almost two years, and it

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<v Speaker 2>really helped me. It really cleared the air, helped me

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<v Speaker 2>understand my process of depression. And although I was sad

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<v Speaker 2>that my grandfather left, you know, I was happy to

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<v Speaker 2>get the guidance the therapy so that I could continue

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<v Speaker 2>on and get back to feeling like myself again. There's

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<v Speaker 2>My guess today is Walter bib Dieic. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>anthropologist but also an ethnobotanist who specializes in nutritional plants

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<v Speaker 2>and the various plant species. But Walter, I'm really curious

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<v Speaker 2>about this book. You're calling it Plant Power. You must

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<v Speaker 2>have traveled to enough countries and decided that the food

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<v Speaker 2>that people were eating was not of any quality, and

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a disease problem with bacteria, with gut

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<v Speaker 2>flora and everything else. Is that the basis of the

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<v Speaker 2>books design is the lack of organic food.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally eat mainly organic if I can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the main drive. There's many drives to write

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<v Speaker 1>a book. Also, one things that I just read from doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, general practitioners and clinical trained people that the

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<v Speaker 1>standard American diets that also of people on the Netlands

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<v Speaker 1>eat like a lot of sugars, like drinks, soft drinks

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe just starts like a potato fried but hard

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<v Speaker 1>write potatoes with lots of transity acids that are quite

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<v Speaker 1>not so healthy, any general petitioner would tell you. And

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<v Speaker 1>just white bread and teas like it's it's it's quick food,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and but for the long term it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that healthy. Just I'm just fascinated by it, not or yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I just say, if you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what I observe as just an external observe that. Once

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go to Las Vegas to do some

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<v Speaker 1>work and show there and I went to Detroit in America.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so stunned, just like a friendly stunt by

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of very fat news of the people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the employees of the the workers in the airports

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<v Speaker 1>were very for our culture. So much fat on the body,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a bit over much obasic almost, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how can these be possible? But and then

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<v Speaker 1>I read also I had the automolic when im when

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<v Speaker 1>I was working a lot as a magician, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a private automolecular doctor called Kyle Hoffmann, and he uh

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<v Speaker 1>teach me a lot about things. I hired him. You

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<v Speaker 1>can look to the functions of your livered three years

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<v Speaker 1>ahead if you testn't And he teached me also a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the first actually exploring the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of antioxidants and free radicals. You know, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>free radicals and antioptioninans or well.

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<v Speaker 2>On't you tell us what that free radicals are because

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big problem for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, free radicals are kind of to make. I can

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<v Speaker 1>explain it very scientifically, but you're going to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>simple for now. People can research more if they don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people already know. But for those

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<v Speaker 1>that want to know a bit better, that are things

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<v Speaker 1>that make you ill, actually if you sit too much

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<v Speaker 1>in the sun, if you're doing too much ac if

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<v Speaker 1>you smoke too much tobaccos, if you smell the benzines

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<v Speaker 1>from the cars, and all these kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 1>you already kind of intuitively know that they're not that

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<v Speaker 1>hell the next saggeration, they are sort of molecules that

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<v Speaker 1>burns in a certain way in your body that create disease,

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<v Speaker 1>that keep it simple, you know, And then they have

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<v Speaker 1>like atoms and how they are built and electrons and things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit with negativity and positivity, like electricity works.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there's an exaggeration of a certain thing that's not

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<v Speaker 1>healthy for the system because they catch certain molecules away

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<v Speaker 1>or like atoms, you know, these small things that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows away and antioxygents they balance it out or they

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<v Speaker 1>catch like fightamin sea. Plants are in the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Plants are in the sun, and they don't burn. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't sunburn totally. They don't scramble to death, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't get dry and color change too much

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<v Speaker 1>when they're green in the sun. You know, they have

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<v Speaker 1>antioxydens in their body, like fighting mein sea to protect

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<v Speaker 1>from the solar free radicals that develop if you're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>too much in the sun. And these simple things actually

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<v Speaker 1>that we discovered like one hundred years or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>jet two hundred years ago. We discovered that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to wash your hands with soap regularly to take off

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<v Speaker 1>dirts and maybe not so beneficial bacteria. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria only a very very small percentage of bacteria as harmful.

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<v Speaker 1>In the rest is absolutely not harmful. But to clean

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<v Speaker 1>your hands was something. Now it's so common for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to the toilet to wash your hands, to

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<v Speaker 1>come home, and you worked a lot in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the fields or something, you wash your hands with soap

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<v Speaker 1>or something, you know. And also the free radicals, it's

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<v Speaker 1>something we just have to remember and understand and know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the more and more we know that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to balance them out sometimes with antioccidants. But by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the body itself makes the strongest antioxydants of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>The clue that you young, for example, in the liver,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all produced by the body. But for that to

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<v Speaker 1>make the body function well, according to my philosophy and research,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you had to have to eat diverse. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the problems with the modern diets we have

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<v Speaker 1>that like the standard American diet and also the Dutch diet,

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<v Speaker 1>you could say in a certain way that people are

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit ignorant in a way that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not diverse enough. My friend, if you eat only one

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<v Speaker 1>potato a day or three and a piece of beef,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it's all healthy, but if it's too not

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<v Speaker 1>too broad or something and too much certain not healthy

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<v Speaker 1>fats and I love fats, and fats are very healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>If they have to write fat and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>or for example, if you meet that each like a beef,

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<v Speaker 1>that each grass walks free and it's organic, it's much

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<v Speaker 1>healthy than somebody some animal that lives in a cage

580
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<v Speaker 1>and slaughtered, enslaved and shit. It's very not functional for nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in the world. Bio industry we call it in

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<v Speaker 1>the it's all the chickens. That for the fast food

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<v Speaker 1>industries is very unhealthy for environmental, for the planet, for

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<v Speaker 1>the people, for everybody. If you consume it, also, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not so healthy. Just common sense science actually, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you eat diverse I discovered by researching a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>specialists in immuno power ideas of Yeah, the universities around

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<v Speaker 1>the world that discovered that eating a minimum of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>different photo nutritions per week, like plant based foods, just

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<v Speaker 1>plant foods like parsley, walnuts, system seeds, peanuts, apples, bananas,

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<v Speaker 1>just plants, green leave, spinach, whatever, a week. That's already good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Then you have a lot of diversity of

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<v Speaker 1>molecules and substances and building blocks of your body. And

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<v Speaker 1>your body itself knows what to do with it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>your body knows how to put it where. Make a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more bone, make a little bit more eye

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<v Speaker 1>effect the colors of vitality. Like one of my teachers,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Ganoro, always says, eat a rainbow. That's an old idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Eat the rainbow colors. You now, if you eat a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of colors, that's proven by modern pharma. Cognize that

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<v Speaker 1>in the colors of the foods there is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different antioxidants. Again, that support doesn't help us.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, plants are our greatest allies on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, talk about that because you actually you

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<v Speaker 2>actually describe people should be eating more nuts and vegetables,

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<v Speaker 2>and they you say, the American diet is really really

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. What is it about the American diet specifically?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it too much fat? Too much?

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<v Speaker 1>So much fat? There's also sometimes ajeration of not so

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<v Speaker 1>healthy fats like trans fatty ESTs. If you fry a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fries all the time, very hot in your thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not healthy. No, but it's too much of anything

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<v Speaker 1>is not good. It's the diversity and the balance of

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<v Speaker 1>things that are good. And it's just not only my

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<v Speaker 1>not my own ideas, but you can see the effects

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<v Speaker 1>of certain areas of your land where you live, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's effects, you know, but that is because of too

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<v Speaker 1>much Yeah, you just have to talk also to the

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<v Speaker 1>general partitioner about it. But what you can say is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not only the fats. It's also the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of nutritions. Actually, if you eat from ground, it has

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<v Speaker 1>been all the time, harves, harvest, harvest, Harvard harts. There's

623
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<v Speaker 1>no minerals sometimes anymore in the ground. Also here in Europe,

624
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes the ground are exhausted there, there's nothing

625
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to be found there. So you have to eat from earth.

626
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I always say, also eat from a lot of different

627
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>different earths, not only from the local terrain, but also

628
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>from from so many different places. There's different minerals in

629
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>different in the mountain area, in your local village or towns,

630
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<v Speaker 1>different minerals in the ground and nutritions then in the forest,

631
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<v Speaker 1>you know, so eat diverse again you get the nutritions

632
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 1>in it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, a little bit about.

634
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<v Speaker 1>Water, yeah yeah, yeah.

635
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<v Speaker 2>You highlight god flora. What is god flora? And why

636
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<v Speaker 2>is it so important?

637
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<v Speaker 1>Good flora are the bacteria that help us. They digest

638
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<v Speaker 1>food for us. In our gut. There's living, as I

639
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>said before, a lot of bacteria. And the good flora

640
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is like the the ecology, like the forest in your

641
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>own body, the nature in your own body. We are

642
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 1>nature with you know. And you have to feed the

643
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 1>right good bacteria with inulins for example, that's certain substance

644
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>you can find in then the lonely than the line

645
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<v Speaker 1>roots and in arti shows and in Burdoc root and

646
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>all these kind of things. And they you you have

647
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<v Speaker 1>to feed the right bacteria that you need. Even more

648
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>than adding new bacteria, you can eat, uh, praying probiodiction,

649
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>like you can buy these shetter little pails that you

650
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>have to warm up a little bit in warm water

651
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and drink it to give more bacteria to your guts.

652
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's also good to already feed the right bacteria

653
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 1>that they drive. And when this good bacteria that help

654
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>us to digest foods, they actually ferment the foods for

655
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 1>us and they break them apart and they do things

656
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>with it so we can have the nutritions in our

657
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 1>blood stream and to get fit from it. They are

658
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>our helpers that live in us where it is actually

659
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 1>uh that actually bacteria outnumber our own cells in our

660
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 1>around our body or even on our skin. But this

661
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.800
<v Speaker 1>good flora you have to to keep imbalance. You know,

662
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you have to sometimes clean your gut, but you also

663
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 1>have to just eat the adverse and move your also,

664
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I say simple things. Move your body enough, like at

665
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 1>least walk half an hour a day, or if you

666
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>can three hours day, move your body. That's how we

667
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>are made. That's our Our bodies never made you sit

668
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>on a chair and only look to the computer or

669
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>watch the TV. Our bodies are made to hunt, to dig,

670
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 1>to grow, to run. Your runners actually people from evolutionary perspective,

671
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and we have to we have to have enough sleep.

672
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 1>We have to feed our right gut bacteria and eat

673
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fermented foods. All the doctors that I

674
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>talked to and read about, they say eat fermented food

675
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>like cafee Like uh a, how you said that gurkons

676
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>or something in America, like your gourds and all these

677
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>things that are fermented, they have the bacteria in it

678
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that we need actually, and they these bacteria help us.

679
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>So you can maintain like your garden in your local

680
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>apartner or house or place where you live. You have

681
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>a garden in yourself that you have to keep healthy

682
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 1>and keep strong, you know. And yeah, you doctor that

683
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>al but uh the doctor Paul said death is in

684
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 1>the intestines. He said, death is in the intestines, loots

685
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 1>of our immunity, amount of power.

686
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 2>But yes, yeah, you're talking about probiotics are really important.

687
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>But you also say that consuming omega three fatty acids

688
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>are real key to for good health. What are those?

689
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:25.199
<v Speaker 1>There's certain fatty acids that have to be in the

690
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>body in a certain balance, like omega three, six, and

691
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>nine fatty acids. There's also a lot of like seven,

692
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>but the most important there's a balance between in ours

693
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 1>our diet. There's a lot of for example, omega six

694
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>fatty acids, which we need for for for like inflammation

695
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You need inflammation and not saying what

696
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I learned that information is bad. You needed to kill pathogens.

697
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Pathogens are diseases that commonness. You need to make them

698
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like keep it simple, make them very hot,

699
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 1>burn them, they burn out of the system. But if

700
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that happens too much when you eat only sugars all

701
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the time, white quick sugars like soft drinks and a

702
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of chocolate bars and things where there's unnatural or

703
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>natural sugars in it in excess, white sugars especially, and

704
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>these sugars we need but in a small quantity, and

705
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the bacteria feed on that that are maybe less good

706
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 1>and the omega fatty acids. What you ask, what I

707
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>know about it? There's much more than I can tell.

708
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>You know in this short time that, for example, the

709
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>omega three fatty acids that you can fight in cold

710
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 1>fish oil, but also in walnuts for example, and a

711
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:38.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of other fatty natural products is very good for

712
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 1>your brain. You know you needed for your brain. The

713
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>brain is made of fat. The brain loves fat, and

714
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>to have good functional brain, you need the right fat

715
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>in your body. And if you put trans fatty acids,

716
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 1>like like the fried chicken that's very hot fried all

717
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the time in the same hot oil, we have a

718
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of transfitt is or chips or something. Then the

719
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>fats that your cell membrans and you're also your brain

720
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 1>is made of becomes not so good fats, So the

721
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.039
<v Speaker 1>functions of it get less. You know, if you put healthy,

722
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 1>fresh from the good cold water fish that are free

723
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 1>flowing in the clean seas that we are all responsible

724
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:21.559
<v Speaker 1>for in the planet, because we are all interconnected, and

725
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 1>you are as responsible for me as I am for

726
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you and your neighbor and everybody in the world. Everybody,

727
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody that if you're dirty the world and

728
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 1>you have very dirty seas and the fish eat that

729
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and have the macroplastics in their body and all these things,

730
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 1>you and your children and everybody not gonna have a

731
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 1>good time and sufferings. You know, some people think in

732
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>our society, oh I can know, Oh does't matter, It's

733
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 1>just a short I only live one life. Whatever one life.

734
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Your children gonna fucking be dead in a year five

735
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>after your death. Do you want that? No? I feel responsible,

736
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 1>So we have to be careful that all the seas

737
00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>in the world for everybody, each and everybody on the

738
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>planet is so you have good fish and good fish oils.

739
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You can make it even egoistic thing like yes, and yeah,

740
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm a little bit worried.

741
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, yeah, you mentioned microplastics. This is a

742
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>problem right now, isn't it. How do we avoid microplastics

743
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.400
<v Speaker 2>which are in everything now?

744
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>They are actually unfortunately in almost everything now, yeah, in

745
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Chair how we avoid them? I

746
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>think being more aware of the effects on how we

747
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 1>consume and what we consume and how we deal with

748
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.679
<v Speaker 1>environmental issues, that we have to just be more aware

749
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 1>of it. There's even a good saying from the Native

750
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Americans of your country, a certain tribe. They say, actually,

751
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the most important question us humans have to ask in

752
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 1>these times is what I am doing now? How is

753
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 1>the effect on the many generations after me? And the

754
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 1>most important question we as humans can ask ourselves actually,

755
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 1>is am I a good ancestor?

756
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 2>You know?

757
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's the most one of the most

758
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>clever ideas of the planet. How my handlings and doings

759
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 1>are actually affecting the lives of everybody because things happened

760
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 1>in the past now they are good for us. That

761
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of oil that we can bump

762
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 1>out of the ground and drive our cars and planes.

763
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But that where plants that created it, and at a

764
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>certain moment it's over. And when not plant more trees,

765
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 1>for example, just for all the peoples of the planet

766
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 1>and everybody can enjoy it. You know.

767
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how much meat are you? Yeah? How much meat

768
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.599
<v Speaker 2>are you recommending people e? Because the books obviously titled

769
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Plant Power, and that's you know, you're trying to encourage

770
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:05.639
<v Speaker 2>people eat more vegetables and fruits and less fatty acids.

771
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 2>But how much meat do you consume or are you recommending.

772
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I eat once in a while some meat. You know,

773
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I personally eat everything. The book is about plants and

774
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it's all plant based recipes because we like that very much,

775
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's very important to make much more plants available

776
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 1>and in our diet and bio diversity. Talking about biodiversity,

777
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the key to planetary abundance, Cliff is

778
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 1>biodiversity rather than monocultures. That is very proven by science

779
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>now also, but that's a story for later. But how

780
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>much meat I recommend I recommend what I read that

781
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and what I see is just little chunks of meat

782
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 1>now and then, and you can eat it a couple

783
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of times a week or once a week or something

784
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to stay hell and good and also planetarily good. You know,

785
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I think humans look, I traveled a lot, right, and

786
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I love comparative anthropology, comparative religion, and comparative art. And

787
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>how artists in Africa, how artists in America, How artists

788
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in China, How artists in Japan, How artists in Egypt,

789
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.199
<v Speaker 1>How artists in the Netherlands, How artists in Belgium, or

790
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that I like to compare. And also food behaviors. If

791
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you look, for example, people can live everywhere on the

792
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>planet right like dogs and cats, and they can eat

793
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>any diets and live on it. And certain diets you

794
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 1>live longer, and certain behaviors you live longer and healthier.

795
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 1>That has been proven. Are these famous blue zones in

796
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the world. And what I see so is that, for example,

797
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>if you live very high in the artis Chirkum the

798
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>polar areas, that the people only live from seal fat

799
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:58.480
<v Speaker 1>almost basically you know, only seal fat, eating only fat

800
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.320
<v Speaker 1>yea all my the base there's some diversity, of course,

801
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<v Speaker 1>but that's the base. Then in the unless, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Peru, and believe that a lot of people

803
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<v Speaker 1>live on roots, on starches and like things like potatoes,

804
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<v Speaker 1>you know, like there's so many that are the countries

805
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<v Speaker 1>of the roots. They live mainly of the diet and

806
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<v Speaker 1>yams and things like that. Then you have the Masai

807
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<v Speaker 1>in Kenya, for example, they live of bloods. They don't

808
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 1>kill the cows. They sometimes eat the meat, but they

809
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 1>drink the blood to take the nutritions out and the milk.

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<v Speaker 1>They mainly live on that on so much proteins, you know,

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00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>they can all live. But they also eat plants of

812
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.079
<v Speaker 1>course on the side. But the base of our foods

813
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.599
<v Speaker 1>can be so diverse, and people can be so diverse.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you just study many things, you see that

815
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<v Speaker 1>not it's good to eat diverse, let's say it like that,

816
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<v Speaker 1>and not excess. It's not healthy to eat only potatoes,

817
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 1>only only yellow potatoes, but diverse. But you know what

818
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<v Speaker 1>I mean that we can live everything. And if you

819
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>want to stay longer healthy, I think you can adapt

820
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<v Speaker 1>to your diet. You know, you can adapt to it,

821
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to adapt your diet to but you know, and I

822
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>know in California people are super aware, super conscious about

823
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 1>their food and health and supplements like that. But I

824
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<v Speaker 1>think the best is, actually some doctors and general practitioners

825
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:24.039
<v Speaker 1>told me and people, is to take your the nutritions

826
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<v Speaker 1>out of your food, you know, rather than supplement you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I also take sometimes supplements that ostacs on scene. It's

828
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<v Speaker 1>a sort of yeah, super antioxidant for your eyes, for example,

829
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<v Speaker 1>that can enter your eyes and it's pretty healthy, and

830
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<v Speaker 1>I take it as an external thing sometimes, But the

831
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<v Speaker 1>best is to take all the things from your from

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<v Speaker 1>the diversity of your food. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 2>with my guest today Walter bibe and Dyke coming to

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<v Speaker 2>us from the Netherlands. Will be right back. My guest

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<v Speaker 2>today is botanist Walter Biben Dyke, who has written a

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<v Speaker 2>new book called Plant Power, and this is a look

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<v Speaker 2>at plants that you find in your backyard and your forest.

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<v Speaker 2>A number of plants that are quite edible, nutritious and healing.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk a little bit about healthcare in America. You comment

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<v Speaker 2>in your book about the overuse of antibiotics and the

843
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<v Speaker 2>problems that it gives the body. And this is following

844
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 2>the allopathic method of healing. And you don't write very

845
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>positively about the effects of allopathic mass to talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? So I'm very positively also about

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00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 1>allopathic medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're great for trauma.

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00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they're great for for trauma and instant things.

851
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And I also go when I have a super infection

852
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 1>or something on my ear, because whatever during whatever happens

853
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:51.400
<v Speaker 1>in my ear. I was in a bar in swimming

854
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 1>in a swimming pool in a certain place, for the

855
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:55.480
<v Speaker 1>water was not clean. I got this tremendous ear in picture.

856
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I go to my general petitioners. What can I do.

857
00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I can put propolis in it that I take from

858
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:01.639
<v Speaker 1>bees that no bacteria can get resistant to it. But

859
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<v Speaker 1>then by horn fleets, I don't know the words. And

860
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>something in your hair like a membrane that gets too

861
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 1>much propose on it that I cannot cleanch. I think,

862
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.079
<v Speaker 1>what would they use? How did they think it? Just rationalize.

863
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a rationalist, you know. I think, Oh, they say

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00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 1>this and this you have to put sour and this

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00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is it? Because then the bacteria cannot drive so well.

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00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah, and I use it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, I would use if I'm gonna die,

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00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>take antibiotics very rarely, like a heart. And there's so

869
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.760
<v Speaker 1>many antibiotics in plants, by the way, in immersions with

870
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>like a penicillin hardcore bomb. You know that comes from immersion.

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00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 2>By the way, did you say that you would avoid

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00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.280
<v Speaker 2>antibiotics over a plant medicine?

873
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.159
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, I take them. No, I take everything.

874
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>But I will say you can do a lot yourself.

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00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>You say, I don't know anything so much about the

876
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.760
<v Speaker 1>American use of antibiology. You have to use it in excess.

877
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 1>But also your good flora, your bacteria. Okay, with antibiotics,

878
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you can kill bacteria right, ones that make infections too big,

879
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:59.719
<v Speaker 1>like swollen red finger with puss coming out whenever, you

880
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 1>have to kill it with antibiotic because your own body

881
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>can't handle it anymore, because your immunity is little bit

882
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 1>less or something tremendous happened. You know, you have to

883
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>use it. That's rare, that you have to use it,

884
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:18.800
<v Speaker 1>very rare. Then I think that also that I know

885
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.519
<v Speaker 1>that the good flora dies from that. You know also

886
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that you need you so your immunity goes down, you know,

887
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>so then antibiotically use also an ortra molecular. Doctor cal

888
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Homan said, you have to use probiotics and probiotics again

889
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>your guts and things. You can even take these capsules

890
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.079
<v Speaker 1>then in that case to feed them up and also

891
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:42.719
<v Speaker 1>innerleans and other good sugars that these bacteria trifle. You

892
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.559
<v Speaker 1>have to feed them and prepare them. You know, you

893
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 1>cannot just take three times a year antibiotic I because

894
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a sour throat or something. It's super dangerous.

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00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 1>I think. You know, you have to really talk with

896
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 1>your general partitioner, and at least if you're a doubting

897
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 1>with three different general practitioners from three different schools, you know,

898
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.880
<v Speaker 1>your throat can cure very. For example, if I feel

899
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:05.119
<v Speaker 1>throat pain coming, I'm a beekeeper too, you know, I

900
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 1>keep the certain bees, honey bees, black bees. That if

901
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 1>you get to feel a throat pain coming right and

902
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:21.039
<v Speaker 1>throat infection or whatever, then I try to make more

903
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 1>rest and I put the propylus on it. That is antibiotic.

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00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 1>No bacterian world can get resistant to it, because bacteria

905
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>can already genetically learn in one generation, and humans like

906
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 1>many generations genetically we change, but bacteria very fast, and

907
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 1>so they get resistant to the bacteria that they get

908
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.159
<v Speaker 1>resistant to the antibiotics we use fast, you know. And

909
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the propellers from the bees that are resins that the

910
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>bees collect contain so many different photo molecules plant molecules

911
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:59.159
<v Speaker 1>that work as an antibiotic and are anti viral, antibacterial

912
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and anti that the bacteria very hard have a hard

913
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>time to get the resistance to it, you know, because

914
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 1>it's so diverse, they cannot adapt your us. So I

915
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>use that in a liquid. I make a call tinture

916
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:13.599
<v Speaker 1>from it, and I take the sage leaves which have

917
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 1>antibiotic properties and extra vitamine C from natural origin. Eating

918
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the oranges and TVs and whatever things you know where

919
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:28.039
<v Speaker 1>you can find the vitamine C in it with also

920
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the bioplaphant. It's like the white stifty you find in

921
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the orange you have to eat. Also, I use that

922
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of things to build up most of the time,

923
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>like ninety five percent of the time, I beat them out.

924
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't get the throat infection. You know, you have

925
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 1>to build the resistant by yourself. By sleeping. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so they're saying now that a lot of

927
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.639
<v Speaker 2>us have a lot of inflammation in our body. They're

928
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:01.800
<v Speaker 2>even saying that Alzheimer's is inflammation of the brain.

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00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Is it your belief that we're living with inflammation and

931
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:11.760
<v Speaker 2>we're too casually addressing it in terms of getting rid

932
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

934
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>What what's you're feeling on inflammation?

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00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, like you said, Okay, my feeling about the inflammation

936
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>is that it's good and that we need it and

937
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that we have it in our system. That's the one

938
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of the ways of resistance, one of the ways of

939
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:32.639
<v Speaker 1>immunity of the body. But if you have it too much,

940
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not so good. You know a lot of

941
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>people have inflammation all the time because they eat too

942
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>much sugars and they don't move their bodies, you know,

943
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, Yeah, I agree totally.

944
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So how do we how do we reduce inflammation in

945
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>my body?

946
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 1>My book Plant by eating plants what I described in

947
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Plant Power. How we reduced the inflammation by it? Uh yeah,

948
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:02.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of plants. By by eating diverse like I'm

949
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 1>described in my book Planned Power, not too much fast

950
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 1>sugars like white bread, white pasta quickly processed sugars, by

951
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 1>eating diverse a lot of green vegetables, by eating garlic

952
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, and many other things that are

953
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:25.599
<v Speaker 1>described in my book. And yeah, also I recommend people

954
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.039
<v Speaker 1>to talk to their general practitioner and not my general

955
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>practitioners said this, So it's only that. No, it's not

956
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 1>only that. That's one of the things the general practitioners said.

957
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And the other general practitioner says this, and the other

958
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:45.159
<v Speaker 1>says this, and the medicinal databases and the sixty thousand

959
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 1>double blinds to these in various countries in the world

960
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>say also this, So you have to think for yourself. Also,

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00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I've just a little bit knowledge out of

962
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:56.599
<v Speaker 1>frustation that built up myself by reading hundreds of books,

963
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and study and talking to various general practitioners.

964
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 1>For example, that's a nice one. I was living in

965
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Jamaica right in the pandemic. I wrote my book forty

966
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>pages I delivered to my publisher, and then for certain reasons,

967
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:15.519
<v Speaker 1>we migrated to Jamaica in the Caribbean, as you know,

968
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>and there I met a general practitioner, retired American old

969
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 1>lady in Belmont, and I asked her. Velmont is the

970
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:28.239
<v Speaker 1>place where Peter Tosh by the way, got buried and

971
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in his life, and she

972
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>has this nice little restaurant there. And I asked her,

973
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:39.400
<v Speaker 1>my dear lady, if the pesty seeds that people use

974
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on the vegetables and fruits in our world are infecting

975
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the nervous system of the bacteria. Sorry, not of of

976
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the insects. They killed the nervous system of the insect

977
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 1>and the insect died from it. Wouldn't if we get

978
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.559
<v Speaker 1>it slowly, slowly in our body from the vegetables and fruits,

979
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it effect our own nerve system? You know what?

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01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Their answer? Of course.

981
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Inect You know that teach me enough. If I talk

982
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 1>to people like that that have a lot of experience,

983
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 1>then I know. People can say any lobbies you know,

984
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 1>sorry to say, but I love everybody in the world.

985
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 1>But they say, no, the pestigees are so good. It's

986
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.400
<v Speaker 1>no problems, just the quantity. And that's to those that

987
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 1>makes it, not the passion. But you have to think

988
01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.840
<v Speaker 1>for yourself. It's sometimes people say this and this reason

989
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:32.639
<v Speaker 1>why this is good? My fruits are so good, and

990
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>we use only this passage. It's only seventy four different

991
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 1>passages're not sixty four ins or something. You know, so

992
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to think for yourself. And you know, if

993
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.199
<v Speaker 1>if insects die from it, body also dies from it.

994
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Human body maybe a little bit slower. But if inflammation

995
01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 1>come to so many ports or solvents, if you eat solmons,

996
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 1>for example, that are harvested thousands of solmons, millions together

997
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.199
<v Speaker 1>in nets in whatever in the I sees around the world,

998
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 1>and they use a lot of antibiotics to destroy the disease,

999
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 1>because no naturally thinks that get so strong and whatever,

1000
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and it's always wheedling to die org.

1001
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 2>But I have to ask you, Walter, you're suggesting people

1002
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:16.280
<v Speaker 2>go to their general practitioner. Here in the United States,

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01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the general practitioners, which is allopathic medicine, get very little

1004
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>nutritional education. It has to be something they do after

1005
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:31.880
<v Speaker 2>they get their credential. Perhaps in Europe the general practitioners

1006
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.920
<v Speaker 2>are more educated on nutrition, but not in America.

1007
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:36.760
<v Speaker 1>All of them, by the way, not all of them.

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01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:41.239
<v Speaker 1>My general practitioner or from before the TD to go

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01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to another city. She read my book and she said,

1010
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 1>vow to your book. Blend power. I'm astonished, you really

1011
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 1>know it. This is the future of medicine. We all

1012
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 1>have to go back to these plants. You know so much,

1013
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.039
<v Speaker 1>you really know that. I almost cried from it from

1014
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 1>all the efforts of put in my book. You know,

1015
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>but not all of them are educated.

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01:02:58.880 --> 01:02:59.159
<v Speaker 2>She said.

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01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Also, not all of them are ready for it and

1018
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.159
<v Speaker 1>all that. But it slowly, but truly they will discover.

1019
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It's strange that like people like Hippocratis is like an

1020
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:13.559
<v Speaker 1>ancient Greek philosopher and uh sort of general petitioner. Doctor said,

1021
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 1>thy food be thy medicine or some you know, thy

1022
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 1>food be thy medicine. He already said it that by

1023
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.920
<v Speaker 1>feeding your body the right foods, like you also just

1024
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 1>feedback to me you you're healthy. But in the so

1025
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.880
<v Speaker 1>many studies also that the doctors, and I highly big

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01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.360
<v Speaker 1>time respect them and I always recommend you to talk

1027
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:36.199
<v Speaker 1>to them them and they know so much and everybody

1028
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:41.679
<v Speaker 1>knows a little bit more that sometimes in the studies

1029
01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 1>they don't teach too much about the foods in the

1030
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:47.159
<v Speaker 1>effect of the foods. And I think personally, like I'm

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01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a doctor and just somebody that studied pharmacognoicy

1032
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and interest is interested in foods and the use of

1033
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 1>plants as an ethnobotanist and just as a person that

1034
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.480
<v Speaker 1>foods are tremendously important. I think what you put in

1035
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:04.239
<v Speaker 1>your body you become. Also, like what kind of thoughts

1036
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you have you become, you know, And I just logic

1037
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:13.199
<v Speaker 1>from the street, let's say, and just thinking a little bit. Ye,

1038
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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of people think that. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we are ignorant as people, you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>see everything or we see a lot of things that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, the books called Plant Power Heal Yourself with

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<v Speaker 2>medicinal mushrooms, roots, flowers and herbs. My guest today has

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<v Speaker 2>been water, Biden Dyke and uh Water. How can people

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<v Speaker 2>learn more about you? You have a channel, a YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I also have a YouTube channel plant power or

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<v Speaker 1>plant YouTube channel. And I also have an Instagram account

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<v Speaker 1>called plant cats that is plant power in Dutch plant

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<v Speaker 1>like the same like American plant or English and then

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<v Speaker 1>cot k are a c h t Okay, you know

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<v Speaker 1>power plant cost on Instagram and they can find me

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<v Speaker 1>through my website soon that you will be about banda

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<v Speaker 1>dot com with my brother's working on it. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>can check on g MPP dot org. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best is to go to Instagram plant Card, plant

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<v Speaker 1>powering Dutch and to go to my YouTube channel. There

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<v Speaker 1>I put some videos also, Okay, and to my name,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on the book Plants Power right now available all

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<v Speaker 1>over all bookstores.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, my final question to you, Walter is who did

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<v Speaker 2>you write the book for? Who did you write the

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<v Speaker 2>b For.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman in the world, for the woman one of

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<v Speaker 1>the except for the plants and for the universe, the

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<v Speaker 1>illusion that sustains reality. I wrote it also I've sold

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<v Speaker 1>much a pleasure for the ancient witch hunts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the woman, the herbalist, the ancient wise woman of

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<v Speaker 1>Europe that got slaughtered by the witch hunts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent of the witch.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, they if they were herbal witches and.

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<v Speaker 1>Herbless like knowledge of plans was actually considered to have

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<v Speaker 1>a pact with the devil, you know. And it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of strange thinking in that time. And I wrote it

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<v Speaker 1>also because to bring back the knowledge, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it also to preserve the knowledge that they discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>In all my travelers and talks. Certain things you will

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<v Speaker 1>not find on the internet are only in the physical

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<v Speaker 1>form of this book, you know, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>keep safeguard is to to and to to shave that

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<v Speaker 1>hood market, to tune back the quality of women also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to see what what what kind of important

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<v Speaker 1>important role they played in the world of medicine. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we get back a bit the knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>the respect for all the women in the world that

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<v Speaker 1>we owe so uh nicely, this need and I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it also because for the sacraments humankind has been using

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<v Speaker 1>for millennia means thousands and thousands of years that got

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<v Speaker 1>somehow demonized by certain institutions in the world. That we

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<v Speaker 1>get back the knowledge of the ancient sacred mushrooms like

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<v Speaker 1>the Amanita miscaria Mercian the fly again, that people have

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<v Speaker 1>been ingesting in their bodies in certain supervisional supers under

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<v Speaker 1>supervision of practitioner Shamans. You have not experimented alone with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to really, but that they those plants and

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<v Speaker 1>the eugens that show the divine within ourselves, in the

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<v Speaker 1>nature around, in the whole creation, and the illusion that

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<v Speaker 1>sustains reality the universe. Yeah, that they played such an

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<v Speaker 1>important role in our development, and that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to them. And it's so interesting that now

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<v Speaker 1>there's more than forty universities in the world that study

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<v Speaker 1>the substances like psylosiben, for example, the beneficial effects of it,

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<v Speaker 1>that it can take away post traumatic stress syndromes or

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety or fears, and that you can cure yourself by

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<v Speaker 1>these things. And we are rediscovering them like the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Greeks already did in the Temple of Alyses, the Temple

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<v Speaker 1>of the Major and her daughter Persoponi. The Major is

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<v Speaker 1>the goddess of Earth and beer. We were actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a lot about beer, but that's maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>talk for next time. That there the people drink in

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<v Speaker 1>the autumn. We are now in autumn in October that

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<v Speaker 1>they drink the kikio. This is a drink with Penelopa

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<v Speaker 1>mint for the taste, water, barley grain because Persovni was

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<v Speaker 1>a gouds of beer and it was a beer doing

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<v Speaker 1>this and an extract of the airhot mushroom l as

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<v Speaker 1>the shipstance I never put in my body is super

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and that is also described by many scholars like

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Rooke, Professor Carruk from Boston University, and people like

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Mayer rescue that in the Temple of Alysis, they

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<v Speaker 1>drink this kiki on this drink and Plato and soaker

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<v Speaker 1>this Plato the philosopher said, it's the most important exis

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<v Speaker 1>in his life. And people in that temple learned to

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<v Speaker 1>die before they died so they wouldn't die when they

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<v Speaker 1>really died. And these things are coming back, and the

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<v Speaker 1>temple that was once close to people is reopened again.

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<v Speaker 1>We are living in the middle of a psychedelic renaissance.

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<v Speaker 1>And some scholars would say, others, uh say, it's already

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<v Speaker 1>in the world all the time because it never went back.

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<v Speaker 1>And for renaissance something something had to be disappeared. But

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<v Speaker 1>it almost disappeared. But we are recovering it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it for that, for women, for people to become

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<v Speaker 1>more aware and to empower people. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be stronger, better, smarter than me, and have more knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>than me and thrive and thrive and everybody around the

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<v Speaker 1>strict that we are all interconnected and having a good

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<v Speaker 1>time in this planet. That we are were very surely

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<v Speaker 1>and we can humble up and love our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, water much success on this book, and I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you to agree for you. Thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. I really appreciate your attention. And also, dear listener,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Blessings from the Netherlands big time

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<v Speaker 1>every time. Thank you. Respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Power Plants comes in a large book with color photos

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<v Speaker 2>and illustrations, which really makes it great because you can

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<v Speaker 2>identify what your local botany, your local plant life is

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<v Speaker 2>in the area you live. And I'm serious, you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually take this book and go out and collect enough

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<v Speaker 2>foliage to create a salad. And if it's spraying, you're

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<v Speaker 2>really in luck because there's a lot of blooming flowers

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<v Speaker 2>that you can use for you know, your your salad,

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<v Speaker 2>so all you need is addressing. Yeah, it was fun

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<v Speaker 2>to get him on the program. I want to mention

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<v Speaker 2>that we are going to be in Egypt this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be conducting our Grand Egyptian Tour April

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<v Speaker 2>through May tenth. For all the details, go to Earthangents

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<v Speaker 2>dot com forward slash Tours. We have an outstanding itinerary

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<v Speaker 2>where we're going to see a lot of sites that

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<v Speaker 2>are normally not available to the general public, and that

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<v Speaker 2>includes private visits. We call this tour diplomatic tour because

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<v Speaker 2>it's private. It is five star. We have a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the tour on the water in an amazing boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Our hotels are five star, our food is excellent, our

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<v Speaker 2>beverages are excellent, and we have these visits to these

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<v Speaker 2>locations that is unheard of. Finally, the best part of

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<v Speaker 2>the tour is that it's half off the normal costs.

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<v Speaker 2>For all the details, the itinerary, the features, go to

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<v Speaker 2>earth Agents dot com, forward slash Tours and get all

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<v Speaker 2>the details. All right, that's it for this program. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to think my guest today Walter biden Dam, coming

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<v Speaker 2>to us from the Netherlands, as always a team of

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<v Speaker 2>guiltour Mark Foster and Faya Bravar. You guys rock all right,

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<v Speaker 2>take care of you well and we will talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you next time.