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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're back to Villing, got raw and live, and

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<v Speaker 1>our guests is William Ramsey. Of course you heard this

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<v Speaker 1>numerous times, but still let it be known that his

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<v Speaker 1>opus work is profit of Evil Els There Crowley nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven in the New World Order, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>favorite for a bunch of us, to include Randy Loggins

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<v Speaker 1>and Gordon Comstock, and we were happy that he came

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<v Speaker 1>on to kick off the beginning of whatever. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the tenth year of the many manifestations that we know

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<v Speaker 1>as the Grassy know. But any rate, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to share something with folks real quick, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>just as an icebreaker, something to consider because as much

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<v Speaker 1>as William and I are talking about life, and you

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<v Speaker 1>still have to live it, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>matter what's going on there and how nuts it is,

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<v Speaker 1>how bad it was perhaps in the ghettos in Warsaw,

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<v Speaker 1>and we could only own, Yes, you've got to go

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<v Speaker 1>on every day. There's got to be something you can

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<v Speaker 1>extract from the day as something worth living for because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going this way again. And I mean use

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<v Speaker 1>me for this. I just think it's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>these things I have to share with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to WCBS eight eighty AM out of New

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<v Speaker 1>York on the stream it's all news radio, and I

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<v Speaker 1>heard this very early this morning because I couldn't sleep

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<v Speaker 1>at five o'clock in the morning. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>share this with you. This is like one of these

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<v Speaker 1>things like here's the bad news, here's the good news. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it says suv falls from upper level of FDR drive

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<v Speaker 1>slams into cab below. Let me just summit this up.

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<v Speaker 1>An suv with eight seven people eight people was on

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<v Speaker 1>an elevated section at three am in the morning on

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<v Speaker 1>the FDR at a point where it goes up around

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third and I know this area.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what happens is somebody's out there attending to a

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<v Speaker 1>car off on the side, and here's this noise. This

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<v Speaker 1>suv comes toppling over from the elevated roadway at least

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet to the roadway below, lands upside down, but

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<v Speaker 1>on a cab who had no fare. Here's the story.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not good that you would flip off an

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<v Speaker 1>elevated roadway with however many people in an suv. If

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the pavement, you're probably all dead. Forget your seatbelts. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this hit the passenger side of a cab and broke

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<v Speaker 1>the fall so that the suv rolled off the cab

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<v Speaker 1>and righted itself on its wheels. The cabby had no

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<v Speaker 1>fare You care where you get where I'm going with this? No, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my point is, here's the bad news. Oh, this suv

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<v Speaker 1>is going over with all seven of us, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be good. The good news is we

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<v Speaker 1>hit a cab roof the roof and we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the real bad blunt trauma. We flip over and land

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<v Speaker 1>up rout of the wheels and the bonuses. The cabby

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<v Speaker 1>had no fare.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you know, when I hear this stuff, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are the odds that that could have

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<v Speaker 1>all happened in that way? Anyway, nobody's died yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can walk away. My point, I guess and saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is that life is very random. Crazy things happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people walk away and some people don't. So

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, forgive me for you know, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just looking at this because I know

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<v Speaker 1>the area. I'm like, uh, you gotta be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>An empty cab and the Cabby's like, yeah, it's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh no he could He didn't say I do

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking knight. No, he didn't do that. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. We're back into what we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into the nitty gritty. And obviously, folks, is people more,

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<v Speaker 1>we're more aware of this. We would ask this of

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<v Speaker 1>the Christian community that doesn't work too well with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world. How do you explain it? It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like this thing where people understand it's

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<v Speaker 1>evil and they kick around Satan once in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you tell them it's institutionalized and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>with us for a long long time, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get many people going, uh yeah, you're probably right. And

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<v Speaker 1>herein lies the problem. And this is what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw it to you. And by the way, folks, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call in, you can do so. From

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<v Speaker 1>this point off. It's fair six one eight nine to

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<v Speaker 1>one to two four six eight one six one eight

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<v Speaker 1>nine one two four six eight one. It doesn't cost

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<v Speaker 1>much an eight hundred number, but you'll live with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw it to you at William And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the point now, The second phase I got into is

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that this is a very spiritual matter. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't make much headway with Heathens and those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in such because they keep thinking that the human

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<v Speaker 1>spirit will elevate with you. And that's another whole story.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm asking you, now, you got into all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff and when you actually entered the via the

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<v Speaker 1>whole arena of nine to eleven, and how A called

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<v Speaker 1>that was? Uh? I tell you why. For all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty sickening. But how did you progress?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I think it is sickening, but uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I just wanted to get the word out.

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<v Speaker 4>There were other people who saw saw different facets than

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<v Speaker 4>I did, but uh, I think that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to led people to see that it was

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<v Speaker 4>not just a cultural or political event but a spiritual event,

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<v Speaker 4>much like you know Hitler. You know, Hitler's Reichstag fire

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<v Speaker 4>was a political event, but it was also him instituting

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<v Speaker 4>a Satanic h you know, ideology and political structure. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I see with nine to eleven is the

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<v Speaker 4>same kind of slave state mentality that's against them, total war, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, driving people into poverty, feud neo feudalism, and

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<v Speaker 4>uh you know, so I see that nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 4>was a you know, uh harbinger of those types of

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<v Speaker 4>political changes that have taken place in this country, in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. So you know, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 4>people to see that that you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more beyond the material world that's taking place all right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But bring yourself back to the time, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is necessary for people to believe, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there too. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 1>also and that's the reason I asked you about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you being okay with your wife and myself being okay

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife. We see have people coming in here

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<v Speaker 1>who are like coming in by themselves and uh not

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<v Speaker 1>going I'm being by any you know, condescending, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, go so far. But you got to let

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta let your spouse know what's going on, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen disasters and it shouldn't have been that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was. And this happens really honestly goodness with

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<v Speaker 1>the more intelligent, higher up people, it's almost like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you trying to do, dear? Destroy this whole thing?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't make it. I also don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it a male entry type of thing. This happens

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides. The guys might write me more yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not the only ones. But so what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to throw you back to. I mean, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a point where and I'll tell you there's a point

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<v Speaker 1>when I said to my lab is taking me here

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<v Speaker 1>a second, Come on me, sit down and just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this. And then when it started, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who it was and what audio file it was, but

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<v Speaker 1>she had known, you know that I had misgivings because

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<v Speaker 1>I did have eyes and ears, and I was a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of plays. I mean, I was in DC like yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>and then this other thing that happened, and it's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a little upsetting, but it's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you? I mean, again not the hammer at home,

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<v Speaker 1>But was there a point where you said.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn, well, I think that you know, she had known

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<v Speaker 4>my personality and that I was a reader, and that

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<v Speaker 4>I would consider, you know, sources and confirm and look

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<v Speaker 4>for proof and evidence. So you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>it was more gradual, and I don't think she's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that she would prefer if I never looked

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<v Speaker 4>at anything. But it's bothered me. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>troubling when you have a political system that's evil and

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<v Speaker 4>gone sour. It's disturbing and it's bad, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>especially when it has an effect upon what you deem

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<v Speaker 4>to want your country to be, in your society to be.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. So I think that she in one sense,

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<v Speaker 4>would would wish that it never happened. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>in another sense, you know, she sees, she sees that

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<v Speaker 4>me raising other people's awareness is positive, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>that people should take comfort in the fact that this

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<v Speaker 4>is happening by design, that it isn't you know, some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of you know, it's just happening, and it's not

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<v Speaker 4>just happening. These are these are these are concerted efforts

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, create wars, to uh destroy the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 4>and economy of the United States, and to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>increase the burden upon the people tax through taxation and

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<v Speaker 4>the inflation of the dollar and manipulation. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to see that in the big picture and

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<v Speaker 4>then see that the whole economy has always been manipulated,

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<v Speaker 4>probably since the add that to fiat currency, and so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's a they shouldn't see it. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people shouldn't be like, oh gosh, such a failure,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, why is this happening. It's happening because

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<v Speaker 4>people want it to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>At the top.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an evil elite who are pulling the strings on it,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, uh, I guess my point is is

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<v Speaker 4>that it's good to see it for what it is

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<v Speaker 4>instead of like, oh, you know, some up touse Christian

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<v Speaker 4>out there is going to say, oh, this is God's

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<v Speaker 4>will or you know this economies might fault, or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not it's really not. It's because there's evil people

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<v Speaker 4>at the cop that you know, the religious leaders have

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<v Speaker 4>failed to point out and reel against, you know, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's uh, you know, I mean, there's there's not My

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<v Speaker 4>book is just connecting a couple of two or three

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<v Speaker 4>dots on a picture that has twenty more dots, and

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<v Speaker 4>most of the people who've read it I can connect

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the dots and understand, you know, what

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<v Speaker 4>it points at.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know you have a caller, But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, will you and win the reasons why a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of us found favor with you is because you

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<v Speaker 1>do have a well developed brain and you went at

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<v Speaker 1>it in a certain manner that attracted us all because

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<v Speaker 1>it was very like I said, it wasn't crazy, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't hysterical. He was fact And even though it deals

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<v Speaker 1>with an evil side, though a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to win it. And we're going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to that later because you know, people are only going

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<v Speaker 1>to go so far with evil, but not our politicians. No, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to work. But anyway, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>break for a second, and we have a caller by

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<v Speaker 1>all means Jim Brigham on or Huron.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hey is Yeah, it's steam from Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>No not you, Yeah, me the only one?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>But are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I have a question for Bill? Uh? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I like most of the people you know, are around

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<v Speaker 2>nine to one one. Uh. You know, rurehood wink by

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<v Speaker 2>this is that, and you know you fell for it

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning. But I always thought it was strange

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<v Speaker 2>those attacks, is that President Bush comes on TV and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like forty seven billion dollars or

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<v Speaker 2>monetary amount. But does that have a connection. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>a connection between this Hitler type of government or this mentality?

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<v Speaker 2>And really, you know, that's the only thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>But I didn't it took I didn't either. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not qualifying you. I'm just I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 4>part of a structured plan. These guys had a blue

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<v Speaker 4>thing about like Hiller. You know, nobody saw these abuses

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<v Speaker 4>as they you know, it was just one thing after

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't have that sense, right, you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be to me, it could be either you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they either planned it and you know, had wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>set this department up as a means of control, pre planned,

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<v Speaker 2>or they took advantage of a situation and did something

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<v Speaker 2>what does it seem to be like to you? You know,

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<v Speaker 4>was planned before the event. They didn't take advantage. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no way in nineteen people in Afghanistan could control the

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, you know, I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of people Jane Jean, let them go.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying that there are a lot of weak

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<v Speaker 4>They they don't key in onto the most salient points

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<v Speaker 4>of the event. The salient points are there are huge

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<v Speaker 4>amounts of military test things going on that day and

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<v Speaker 4>Building seven drop period, So you can get some people

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<v Speaker 4>mystery planes and radars and stuff like that from the

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<v Speaker 4>sky and frankly, they're just weak minded and it's sad.

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<v Speaker 4>But the real reality is nobody from Afghanistan dropped Building

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<v Speaker 4>seven outside of this country, and then you have to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's I always can't you know. I always

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<v Speaker 2>had a hard time dealing with that. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>that aspect, I as too.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time to let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>go in that conversation. I'm sorry. At this time when

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<v Speaker 1>PR firm in Chicago. He had stated to me, now,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem here is and just understand what a muddies.

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<v Speaker 1>The waters here is that he is a born again Jew.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that term. You're either you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Christian whatever. All right, all right, fine, but his

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have anything to do with Israel. He lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago any rate. But he told me, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean his information was good. He said that

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<v Speaker 1>the Rand Corporation. Now understand me here, the Rand Corporation,

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<v Speaker 1>not your buddies. By the way, folks were in that

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<v Speaker 1>office and they were bragging about how they had developed

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriot Act like five to ten years before. They

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<v Speaker 1>were just waiting for them the moment that happened, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course they knew it would. My point is this

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<v Speaker 1>Congress can't get a freaking lunch order right, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>whip that thing together, that Patriot Act in what ten working.

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<v Speaker 2>Days was real quick. It was very is that those

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<v Speaker 2>those bills, there are tons of bills that are awful

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<v Speaker 2>draconian that sit there and wait, they're already pre drafted, done.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been worked on, massage, they've been read, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>reading up to a bill there are two names, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're waiting for the right moment to put those in.

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<v Speaker 4>And people who are experiencing Washington politics know how to

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<v Speaker 4>get a bill through that they want through. They wait

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<v Speaker 4>for that right event, whether it's random or structured, and

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<v Speaker 4>then say, it's fun to put this bill through, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's good or not. So it's not it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>The events.

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<v Speaker 4>They knew they were going to put the Patriot Act in,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Patriot Act is this nice or willy in

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's well, I was Alway Jays on instinct, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, who knows what's in these bills? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're so big and so huge, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know you don't know what's in them, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? But on instinct, you know, just saying the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Home rand Security, doesn't that Hays, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't that resonate with anybody? Doesn't that sound like it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right out of nineteen forty two Germany.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, exactly, and there's already Here's the thing is

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<v Speaker 4>that there's already enough intelligence, military institutions and things overseeing

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<v Speaker 4>everything that why would you need another level of security.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that we already have things in place to

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<v Speaker 1>Let me share some with mos of you guys. Me

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<v Speaker 1>to pop off, But there was something I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>found when I was working at Saint Leo's Library. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got these donations from history professors. We got like

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<v Speaker 1>three of them. What I saw called out I jumped

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<v Speaker 1>on like you can imagine me. One of them was,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, a transcript of a two day conference at

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<v Speaker 1>let me think now. It was Harvard in nineteen fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the speakers was a leading Republican from

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<v Speaker 1>and he gave a speech and would knock your socks off.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a show about this, I've done another show

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and I'll put this audio back up again.

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<v Speaker 1>That gentleman understood exactly what was going on, and he

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<v Speaker 1>warned everybody about giving up your supposed liberties for the

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<v Speaker 1>promise of security. Oh man, is that right? Now, here's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing. There was something that was past called the

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<v Speaker 1>mccaren Act, also known as the Internal Security Act around

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking nineteen fifty four. That sucker was worse than

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriot Act because it was so vague. You could

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<v Speaker 1>bring anybody else you wanted to. But remember what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on at that time. We weren't worried about Islamic boogeymen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we were worried about the cursed Red menace, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they were going at. Thank god. Look, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened with Hollywood and that whole witch hunt thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it happened in other industries as well. But thank

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<v Speaker 1>god that Internal Security Act didn't actually get an active

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<v Speaker 1>because it was nastier than Patriot Act. The reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bringing this up is is that this country and that

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<v Speaker 1>blessed gentleman O'Brien knew what was going on. He knew

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<v Speaker 1>where government was tilting toward because they were moved by

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<v Speaker 1>something else, and what was going on was the constriction

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<v Speaker 1>of all freedoms. He comes down to what Louis Brandai said,

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<v Speaker 1>who was also no favorite, you know, no favorite of ours.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, the most sacred, the most sacred right in

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<v Speaker 1>America is the right to be left alone. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>figure out whether that's happened or not, and I'm out,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, no, I mean yeah, they've been at this

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. They've been added for fifty freaking years

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<v Speaker 1>since World War Two, and now they're really drawing the

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<v Speaker 1>news close to us. And he's idiots that we live

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<v Speaker 1>with are like, oh, do whatever you have to do. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you have to do. Sorry, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're still there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I refer to you. You referred to the

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<v Speaker 2>mccount Act. But I read an autobiography of Harry Truman

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<v Speaker 2>where he states that he passed the National Security Act

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven, and yeah, we went through that yet, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised you can hear that because he called it.

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<v Speaker 2>He eventually calls it the biggest mistake of his presidency,

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<v Speaker 2>and that those.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys can say whatever they want after the fact. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what you already did to us. Man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, sorry, doesn't cut it. But that's when

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<v Speaker 1>he made not Now we talked about that, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>we emailed about that. That's when he did what he

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<v Speaker 1>changed something over it the c I A. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, LSS became the c I A. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the NSA was created. And as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>from what I remember I read, I read it quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time ago, is that presidents can't even read what's

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<v Speaker 2>in that act. Nobody can, you know, it's it's and

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<v Speaker 2>it says it tramples the Constitution. I forget where else

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<v Speaker 2>I read it. It might have been referred to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in the book called The Secret Team or or one

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<v Speaker 2>of those types of books. Uh, Fletcher Proud, he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>has been done, you know before you know, and they

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<v Speaker 2>You know. But we already you know, And people are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like I slided to myself, and they created homeland security.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, well, we already got the National Security Act

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<v Speaker 2>and don't know what that is exactly except that it

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<v Speaker 2>created these new security intelligence agencies and that the presidents

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<v Speaker 2>can't read it. So and people have said that it

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<v Speaker 2>tramples the Constitution, which I now know that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>a fricking thing to us, because so, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where does this where does this lend towards the occult

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<v Speaker 2>as well. That's another thing that I would like to know.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's a good question. We've got to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I did want to go back into.

419
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<v Speaker 1>So honestly, thank you for bringing that up, Jeans, and

420
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<v Speaker 1>that is Bill. You know, here's the point. Can you

421
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<v Speaker 1>go to Christians with this? Can you go to the

422
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<v Speaker 1>world with this? I mean, we're dealing with something that's

423
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<v Speaker 1>absolutely freaking satanic, But yes, that doesn't fly with almost anybody.

424
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<v Speaker 4>Well, then the Christians who are what comprised the Christians

425
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 4>and the Muslims don't believe what they read.

426
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<v Speaker 2>That's simple. I don't believe what they read.

427
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<v Speaker 4>No, because the whole, the whole New Testament UH talks

428
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<v Speaker 4>about the devil and quoted by their Messiah and he

429
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<v Speaker 4>uses the term many times, and they cast out devils,

430
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<v Speaker 4>and there's talks about Satan. He was tempted by the devil.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

432
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<v Speaker 4>There is the same thing within you know, the Muslim

433
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<v Speaker 4>tradition and even the Old Testament has these you know,

434
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<v Speaker 4>spiritual events.

435
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<v Speaker 1>So you know, but let's go to a bigger scope though, too.

436
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about what this really means. I mean,

437
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>we all look Christians and otherwise and this is what

438
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>drives me nuts. We all sit there and we hear

439
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<v Speaker 1>about God and all that other stuff, and we have

440
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<v Speaker 1>and you know this has happened, Bill, There's been this

441
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:08.799
<v Speaker 1>many fact, your connection between Jehovah after Christ, death and resurrection,

442
00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, and government like God said, okay, hey, oh

443
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you guys get this. If you're really Christian, go to

444
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the United States because that's really cool. That's bologny. So

445
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>now let me just start there. I know that's an

446
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>abrasive thing to say, but it's like, there is no

447
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:33.880
<v Speaker 1>connection between secular government and the Lord, especially in the

448
00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.559
<v Speaker 1>New Covenant, and yet we're dealing with all this stuff

449
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and even Christians will admit that that's true, and yet

450
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.519
<v Speaker 1>they won't look at the satanic side of the fact

451
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<v Speaker 1>of what's running this country.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm well, you know, there's been very few governments

453
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<v Speaker 4>that have been truly inspired by the you know, the

454
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:58.000
<v Speaker 4>doctrines of God, and uh, that's an unfortunate reality, but uh,

455
00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, typically not that way. And I think, you know,

456
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<v Speaker 4>maybe Originally with the founder of the Colonists, they had

457
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<v Speaker 4>a more Christian view, more communalistic, you know, original Christian

458
00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of approach to daily life. But you know it

459
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 4>certainly isn't that way anymore in this country.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Well, all right, if we could, if this is time

461
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<v Speaker 1>to do that. I don't know if you want to

462
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 1>go there or not. But see, here's my problem. This

463
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>country was the produce of an investment by the crown,

464
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<v Speaker 1>and that's what we got all these places. Okay, I

465
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>get it, Pilgrims went to like Massachusetts. I understand all

466
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, Puritans, but you know what, that really wasn't

467
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<v Speaker 1>the deal. If you take a look at anything south

468
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<v Speaker 1>of them. It was all about business and this idea

469
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that well they were all Protestants at that time. I'm

470
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<v Speaker 1>okay with that. I mean, I don't care. But the

471
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>thing is the government did not act as you would

472
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 1>expect a Christian whatever government to be. And that's when

473
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I get into this thing about all right, now, tell

474
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 1>me exactly where Jehovah said this school. I know that's

475
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like very vague and stuff, but I'm going to ask

476
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<v Speaker 1>you to hit that.

477
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's I mean it's uh,

478
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:27.880
<v Speaker 4>it's a tough it's a tough one. I think that

479
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 4>there is a you know this it's interesting that with

480
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<v Speaker 4>the expansion of all these colonialism and everything like that,

481
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 4>there was and it includes we were once colonists the

482
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 4>United States, but we the colonists, the religious Christian colonists

483
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 4>also went to other countries India, China, and there was

484
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 4>always this uh, you know, Christian thing, but they always

485
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.799
<v Speaker 4>brought business with them and uh, you know, even the

486
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.880
<v Speaker 4>same thing in this country. So I forgot what the book.

487
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 4>I think it might be uh Lever's other productant work Ethic. Anyway,

488
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember the book, but there's a tie there

489
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 4>that's uh, you know, it's it's something that's always always

490
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 4>been followed as Christian. I mean even when the you know,

491
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 4>the the British controlled India was you know, this Critish

492
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Christian idea, but they're always a financial element there and

493
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 4>same with China, and so you know, it's the same

494
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 4>thing in this country. There was this topical thing about

495
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.440
<v Speaker 4>the manifest destiny and you know, we want a place

496
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.079
<v Speaker 4>to be free and live be free, but there was

497
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 4>always that that fundamental economic element that we can't seem

498
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 4>to get away from or you know, it's always and

499
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:48.359
<v Speaker 4>it it dominates everything. Unfortunately, you know, it's it's unfortunate.

500
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>So I want to I want to get back to

501
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that too, because that's really really interesting because one at

502
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>one time we have a color. So I'm going to

503
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>get to them.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I got to get off this Poe two guys later.

505
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Just stay later, bro. At one point they hang out

506
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the proselyation thing and then then of course you come

507
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>over the statehood. We got to pull up from Kansas

508
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>by all means.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Yeah, this is Jason Grander from just outside

510
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 3>of Wichita, Kansas. I was calling because I believe it's

511
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<v Speaker 3>in the Book of Zachararyah. It speaks of a passage

512
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<v Speaker 3>where it instructs the children of Israel or the daughters

513
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 3>of Israel to separate themselves from the children of Babylon

514
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:39.000
<v Speaker 3>because they're spoiled by their servants. And I didn't exactly

515
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 3>have a quote in front of me right now, but

516
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 3>I read that, I don't know, around about the time,

517
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 3>just shortly after the passage of the Act that produced

518
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 3>the seven hundred some billion dollar bailout that George Bush

519
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 3>past and when I read it, it just linked up with

520
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 3>me that basically, that particular passage may have had something

521
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 3>to do with that particular scripture, or that particular scripture

522
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I had something to do with the particular events that

523
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 3>were going on at that time. But if I had

524
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 3>it in front of me, i'd caught it verbatim. But

525
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna ask. I said, vis you an

526
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 3>email within the past week or so, an email with

527
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 3>a PDF attached about how the federal government back in

528
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 3>sixty seven was being charged two times for treasury bonds

529
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 3>that were held by the Federal Reserve, on bonds that

530
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>were actually already paid for. And I was just wondering

531
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 3>if I get your take on that.

532
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 1>No, but but we've all that you've said, though, because

533
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a wider scope of what you just uh, you know,

534
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of entered this conversation with what I'm asking you

535
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is and we've spoke before, and I remember you but

536
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>none that's okay. But but the point is this, that's

537
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 1>where we're driving at. And I'm not ducking any specific questions,

538
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's like our I guess the only way to

539
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>say it is is our government screwing us? Yes, is

540
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a Christian, No, no matter who says what about I mean,

541
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen a president that wasn't Christian? I mean,

542
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>come on, so I don't mean it to mean what

543
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>you've asked, but when you get down in particulars, does

544
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 1>it not always come out in the end? We basically

545
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.559
<v Speaker 1>get flushed most definitely.

546
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I managed to during your question. Yeah, we always

547
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 3>get flushed. Uh. I mean, and that's that's was so

548
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 3>disheartening about everything that's going on. I mean, I remember

549
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>right around just shortly after the attacks on nine to eleven,

550
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I was among those who were persuaded

551
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>that somehow or another, sound Bin Laden and the terrorist

552
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>hijackers supposedly had some hand or part in nine eleven,

553
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 3>and I was all about, let's go get him. I

554
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>had that mindset or mentality, and I don't know it was.

555
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't until about two thousand and two, two thousand

556
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 3>and three, in which I came across information about a

557
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 3>local UH when back when I was living in Denver,

558
00:31:54.119 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>a local privately owned radio station broadcasting out Joshtown, Colorado.

559
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Know that I actually came across UH a j if

560
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 3>you will, and UH, I was just like uh and then,

561
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.279
<v Speaker 3>and basically that's what woke me up in everything. It

562
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 3>was just like And from that point on, I've been

563
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>delving into to the best of my ability because I'm

564
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 3>a I'm not I'm not a learned scholarly type that

565
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 3>some may be. But I happened to uh pus my

566
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 3>way through high school to the point where I dropped

567
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 3>out before I actually obtained a uh diploma. But I

568
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 3>went and got my ged. But I mean, a lot

569
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 3>of this stuff is so I just don't get it

570
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 3>because most of the people that I speak with or

571
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 3>half spoke within the past.

572
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you still vote?

573
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Hell no?

574
00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:00.039
<v Speaker 3>I actually, as a matter of fact, hell no, I

575
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 3>don't know. As a matter just to clarify my position,

576
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 3>about two thousand and seven, I sent a scathing letter

577
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 3>to the the voters registration office out in Colorado, in

578
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>the county that I was registered, requesting or demanding my

579
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 3>name be removed from the voter registration roles because I

580
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to participate with the fraud and the scam

581
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 3>being portrayed against the American people. And so I don't

582
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 3>even remember receiving a letter of acknowledgment from them, but

583
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 3>I had to go down to the voter registration for

584
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 3>the county in which I resided in and get a

585
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 3>letter of acknowledgment supporting the fact that I actually had

586
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>myself removed from the voter registration role, and as a

587
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, precedent to that, I hadn't voted in like, uh,

588
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 3>at least two elections proceeding the point when I said

589
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I'd refuse to actually participate in the fraud or conspiracy.

590
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So all right, listen, We thank you for listening, but

591
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I would ask you also, is there a pointed question

592
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to ask Bill? I mean, because I'm I

593
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, we've been you and I have thought before.

594
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with that whatsoever. Hope for the

595
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>sake of at least addressing something to Bill while he's here,

596
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>because he's I'll be here always, he won't. Uh, yeah,

597
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 1>you want to ask Bill now?

598
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to speak to you and tell you

599
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.519
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate your show and everything, and I appreciate Bill

600
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.920
<v Speaker 3>for coming on, and I hope you guys continue to

601
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 3>pile through the researches you guys are doing and the

602
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>farm us that are less cerebely endowed.

603
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Good.

604
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you did thank you. Thanks all right, bro, good night.

605
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know again William where we last left off again,

606
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>how do you know I'm telling you this is not

607
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.639
<v Speaker 1>easy to do. You got a whole thing with Christians

608
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 1>and they don't get it because they've been tied into

609
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>this thing about And we were talking about this a

610
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>bit before, and I know you were trying to get

611
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>out of there real quick. My point is this countries.

612
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>As far as I'm concerned. From what I understand from scriptures,

613
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 1>mercantilism is at panic. It's okay that we that we

614
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.039
<v Speaker 1>get involved in it. He understands. He withdrew himself because

615
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the tribes and everyone else says, you know, we don't

616
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>want the buying law to take a hike. That's a

617
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 1>real I know, I know it's it's it's.

618
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 4>So they had it set up there, the twelve tribes

619
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 4>and everything like that, and they wanted a king. So

620
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 4>I think when they set this country up, you know,

621
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 4>it was uh, they were trying to move away from

622
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 4>that in a more you know, return to that actually

623
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 4>without a king, in a more sophisticated manner. But over

624
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 4>time it's corrupted.

625
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Then let me ask you this, This is a tough question,

626
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<v Speaker 1>and you get the time to answer it, and I

627
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<v Speaker 1>think you have with you with your work as a whole,

628
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<v Speaker 1>which isn't fair to ask you to pigeonhole it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course I will. My problem is is that

630
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<v Speaker 1>we have this what I consider false construct about Christians

631
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 1>thinking that this country that that Jesus said, what Jehovah said.

632
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously I think this happens after Christ's appearance. Here.

633
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.320
<v Speaker 1>The reason I'm saying, because we don't live under the law.

634
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Obviously we don't smite, you know, the Ammonites because we

635
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>don't like them. Right, But I mean, and I'm like, folks,

636
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on, you know what I mean. It's

637
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a country. I only understand Jesus has concerned with souls

638
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>one by one individually. This bit about well, this nation

639
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 1>has to repent, this nation's not going to repent.

640
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Is an individual?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, is that a nation on the world.

642
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And let's get to Israel Lawso do you think everyone

643
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in Israel is so sold out to Judaism? Are you serious? No,

644
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody seeks after God. Let's fail.

645
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Viva is run by like crime families, like the mafia.

646
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.639
<v Speaker 4>It's it's crazy I mean, people have this kind of

647
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 4>notion that everybody over there is, you know, religious on

648
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 4>a holiday. I mean, there is a minority that's religious,

649
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>and the judy is in the sense, but those people

650
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 4>are very Western in any ways.

651
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But so so here's where we go. Let's stop

652
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>fixing secular things to what what the Lord wanted? Now,

653
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 1>remember something, also, I think we can agree that the

654
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that the blurring of the lines between the state and

655
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the church was blurred by the church who took the

656
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>cheese for a five oh one c three church. And

657
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Jesus is here, I'm thinking he's like,

658
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 1>what did I tell you about? That's not what we're about.

659
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:57.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the world. We don't need to do that. And

660
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's being so rash. But then again,

661
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 1>now take that beyond that, and here's the really great lie.

662
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>If you can make Americans believe that everything they do

663
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>is okay, this goes beyond nationalism in this sense. If

664
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you think you've got it spiritually backed by God, this

665
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>is nationalism on steroids. I mean, this is like, whatever

666
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 1>we do, you know, it's okay. And I'm thinking about

667
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 1>this and I'm like, this is this is a recipe

668
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 1>for disaster. So here we are at a very pivotal time.

669
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<v Speaker 1>You know, people aren't liking what's going on in the country.

670
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. We're looking for someone to blame. All

671
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, I can hear you know where I'm going

672
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>with this, and I need not explain more. Go with it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm just I don't know. I mean, the Germans

674
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 4>had gotten the Tunbs, you know, God with us as

675
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 4>they went over and ravaged and killed millions of people.

676
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I don't see a lot of difference here.

677
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 4>I think that people can be led to believe all

678
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 4>kinds of stuff. I don't know where that jibed with

679
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.159
<v Speaker 4>the Bible. You know that you go kill, you know,

680
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 4>live out of killing a bunch of innocent women and

681
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 4>children in Iraq, I don't understand that. So, you know

682
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 4>these I think that the people who run the country

683
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 4>are extremely cynical and are not afraid to pervert or

684
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, misuse Christianity to further their aims unfortunately, and

685
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I think the Christian Church, and this is a general,

686
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 4>are more than willing to go along with them without

687
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 4>challenging them. And you know, they're like in Nazi Germany.

688
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 4>There were huge battles within within the German Christian Church

689
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 4>with the Catholics and non Catholic I mean, everybody was

690
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 4>fighting about what to do. And the Pope Pious was

691
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.519
<v Speaker 4>a go along person who didn't complain about the satanic

692
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 4>abuses of Hitler. But there were some people who actually

693
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.639
<v Speaker 4>stood up. Bondhoeffer, you know, rescued Jews, Nie Mueller went

694
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:55.159
<v Speaker 4>to the concentration camp, and Bonhaeffer paid with paid with

695
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:58.280
<v Speaker 4>his life. I mean, so, you know, I don't think

696
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 4>that there's a lot of different Now. I'm astonished at

697
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 4>how little, you know, the Christians see this as evil.

698
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, especially the ruling elite. I mean, like I

699
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 4>said earlier, it's I don't know who's worth the evil

700
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 4>under the people who go with it, you know. And

701
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 4>I think of the line from from the from the

702
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Bible where Christ says, you know, you know, some of

703
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 4>you cast out demons in a high name, but you

704
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 4>go to heaven and I'll say, I knew ye not,

705
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, So there's a tough standard there and uh,

706
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.960
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember that that exact, but it's there somewhere.

707
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. O.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, this is honestly this is the toughest element that

709
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.199
<v Speaker 1>where we're going to come into. Now, for those who

710
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 1>aren't Christian or say they're Christian or whatever, there's another

711
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>whole level out there. They believe this is all on

712
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a secular level, and they usually usually believe in the

713
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess, enduring the spirit of humankind to rise above.

714
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I do not subscribe to that, and I think there's

715
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>probably millennia of history to say that's not working. But

716
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>we're not concerned with also is that so here you are.

717
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to lump you in with me necessarily,

718
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 1>but I think we're trying to talk to people and saying, look,

719
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 1>for Christians, understand that this has been provsied and get

720
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 1>off seeing an ABC, NBC and all this other crap

721
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and just stop and take all right, all right, so

722
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>let me stop.

723
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Right controlled lies and nonsense.

724
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Well but you see that's the point. And I mean,

725
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to say this stuff because it's personal,

726
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.199
<v Speaker 1>but I mean my father in all, I'm sitting there

727
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's like he's all over like what Fox, why,

728
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>well they're what do they what do they say?

729
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 4>They are fair? And why?

730
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Because they said some And I looked at him and

731
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that actually is the last conversation we haven't we've in

732
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>two years. I mean, no, I'm not mocking anybody. It's like,

733
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, have a clue.

734
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean slogan. It's like it's a Nazistic, stalinistic slogan.

735
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>How can you buy that? Why?

736
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 4>What makes it trusted? What's why is it even news?

737
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's let me ask you this, let me

738
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>give you, let me get your take on this. As

739
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going down, we get about about fifty minutes left,

740
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and folks, you want to call call in out, do

741
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it and do it now. Here's what I want to

742
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 1>ask you. Also, I'm thinking to myself how much the

743
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>powers of evil have to be absolutely ticking their heels

744
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 1>in the air. I've been laughing their asses off since

745
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the inception of TV. I won't say anything more. Your

746
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>take on.

747
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 4>That, I mean, uh, you know, I think it's a

748
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 4>powerful medium. It's put you in a passive state, and

749
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 4>you know it's flashes.

750
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know it's it's it's.

751
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 4>It's incredibly powerful, and it's an incredibly powerful medium of control.

752
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 4>And uh, I think that you know, there is a

753
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 4>reason why the Chinese government wanted every person in China

754
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.199
<v Speaker 4>to have a television keeping pacified and easy and malleable.

755
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you watch five hours of TV, you're

756
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 4>getting state propaganda and corporate propaganda. A lot of people

757
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 4>oversee the fact that they're watching maybe twenty minutes of

758
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 4>corporate propaganda an hour. If you're watching a TV show,

759
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.639
<v Speaker 4>h you know, hopefully you can scan through all that stuff.

760
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 4>But you know they're you're you're you're being bored, You're

761
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 4>being It's it's.

762
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 1>A form of mind control I've had.

763
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's not the putting a chip in your

764
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 4>head type, but you know it's Uh, they're conditioning you

765
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 4>and pad doing it passively. So it's very dangerous, much

766
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 4>more dangerous than people consider.

767
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

768
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Crowley has come and gone as far as we know,

769
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and you did a lot of work on him, and

770
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you extrapolated that into what has happened since and also

771
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>most marketably with nine to eleven and the Towers collapses.

772
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 1>What I want to know from you is Crowley may

773
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:15.079
<v Speaker 1>have come and gone, but that I think spirit does

774
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not die with him, and they continues. And just give

775
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 1>me your take on the research you've done and also

776
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>your own spiritual leaf about how that has continued from

777
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>his demise, you know, in at least in earth, you know,

778
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.159
<v Speaker 1>in a bodily sense. But what took place on a

779
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I just saw, you know, I saw Crowley the

781
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:42.519
<v Speaker 4>nexus point for all occultism. I mean, he drew on

782
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 4>the path. He drew on all the big writers from

783
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Blovotsky and alt velfis Lev and you know, all these

784
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 4>other people. The Golden Dawn created his own system, dispilled

785
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 4>all that information, wrote voluminously, and left the repository for

786
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:03.599
<v Speaker 4>other people to use as a foundation to push the

787
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, the torch of Lucifer forward. And you know,

788
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 4>when he died in forty seven, there are other people

789
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 4>there to pick up that torch. And one of them

790
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 4>was Timothy Leary. The other is Alroon Hobbard. Those are

791
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:21.679
<v Speaker 4>more notable, there's lesser evil lights. And clearly the people

792
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 4>who instituted nine to eleven for me are also carrying

793
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 4>that torch. And you know it's Hitler was influenced. Well,

794
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 4>he knew JFD Fuller, who was a who wrote a

795
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 4>book about Crowley. So there's really no you know, it's

796
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 4>not like seven degrees of separation. It's two degrees of

797
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 4>separation from Crowley to GFC. Fuller, who's a notable figure

798
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 4>in his own right, and Adam Fhitler, and they all

799
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 4>had contempt for Christianity. So they saw themselves within that

800
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.440
<v Speaker 4>same cosmology of the New Testament and the Old Testament,

801
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 4>which is, you know, the simple battle between good and

802
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.639
<v Speaker 4>evil and what's good and what's evils maybe question that's

803
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 4>been taken out of our public discourse intentionally. And you know,

804
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 4>so I see nine to eleven as within the continuum

805
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 4>or construct of not only a historical current that is

806
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.559
<v Speaker 4>an undercurrent that has come to the surface, but also

807
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:23.239
<v Speaker 4>within the context of prophecy and you know, Biblical end

808
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.360
<v Speaker 4>times material because it is the beginning of the third

809
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 4>millennium and it's the time right now of transportation and communications,

810
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 4>where that ancient dream, as George W. Bush said, the

811
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.000
<v Speaker 4>ancient dream of global control is within view. And a

812
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 4>lot of people don't know that quote from Bush. They

813
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 4>know that his quote of the new World Order, but

814
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 4>you know he did say it was part of an

815
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<v Speaker 4>ancient dream that to the desire for a new world order.

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<v Speaker 1>So William, I'm about to re broadcast an audio I

817
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<v Speaker 1>did a long time ago. I'm saying like a well

818
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<v Speaker 1>four or something like that, where I just wanted to

819
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<v Speaker 1>get an audio from a lecture given by a Dean

820
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<v Speaker 1>Ann Marine Slaughter who comes from the Woodrow Wilson School

821
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<v Speaker 1>of Government in Princeton.

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<v Speaker 3>She gave a speech at.

823
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<v Speaker 1>The UTH Texas Law of Law School at Austin, and

824
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<v Speaker 1>it was amazing to listen to this because she had

825
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 1>written a book, I mean, right out in your face,

826
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 1>new world daughter, no problem about it. And she went

827
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 1>out there and she popped off everything. And I think

828
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna run it because I think people should understand

829
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<v Speaker 1>it that that's the menu. Now. What happened was and

830
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I continued the audio, I may

831
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<v Speaker 1>not have. But when they got to the Q and A,

832
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody threw up softball questions and she fielded them. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was some guy I had a left because his

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<v Speaker 1>posture in the seat was like slung back arms over

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<v Speaker 1>the backs of other seats, like he ain't buying this.

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<v Speaker 1>And he asked to something and she brushed and then

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<v Speaker 1>she said, well, it's only in the planning stage. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's where I'm going with this. Every time you hear

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<v Speaker 1>or if they mean it or not, like seep out

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that people are like, well, wait a second, I

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<v Speaker 1>always hear time and time again, well it's only in

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<v Speaker 1>the planning stage. Well look, honey, you are you're not

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<v Speaker 1>planning it, not to do it. And that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of insitious stuff that I hear. But here's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with you. A lot of people who have

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, well, what are we gonna do? And I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, well, basically, okay, now let's face it. Accept

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ's savior. I mean, you know, fine, and or look,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to live your life. You can't beat this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like too far gone. And I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be a pessimist. And William, you're gonna give me your

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<v Speaker 1>take on it. It's like, do you understand what you're

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<v Speaker 1>up against? This thing is crazy and I'll give it

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<v Speaker 1>over to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 4>a tough one. Do you fight it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you resisted?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you you know?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess everybody has their own choice and all.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Each individual may be different, but I think that the

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<v Speaker 4>first step is to be aware and understand the contours

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<v Speaker 4>of the program, you know, and then make your decision.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the best things to do is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's an intrigue that is constant themed throughout the Bible,

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<v Speaker 4>has come out of battle on you know, and that

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<v Speaker 4>is why take part in it? I mean, how great

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<v Speaker 4>is it to be in debt and run after money

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<v Speaker 4>and be part of the rat race? Is it really

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<v Speaker 4>that satisfying some people? I mean, I've done it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not that for me, not that satisfying.

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<v Speaker 2>So why do it?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 4>How much value is it to have free time and

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<v Speaker 4>not be stuck in a cubicle working for that money

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<v Speaker 4>you might be able to better off to go live

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<v Speaker 4>on a farm, grow like a slave system or debt labor.

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<v Speaker 3>But that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, will you were still within me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's still here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jim McKain. A little reverb here.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So you know, it's just something to be aware

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<v Speaker 4>of avoid.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, hold on, let's let him clear it up by

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<v Speaker 1>give it a shot, will you h?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, all I'm saying is that it's a

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<v Speaker 4>good time to reconsider, re re raise yourself and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>always be wary and watch and uh, you know, come

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<v Speaker 4>out of babble one.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, will you look thanks for being with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Uh, you look like we're having a

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<v Speaker 1>little a bit of a problem. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you go and listen. Thanks for being with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night, William
