Speaker 1: Okay, we're back to Villing, got raw and live, and
Speaker 1: our guests is William Ramsey. Of course you heard this
Speaker 1: numerous times, but still let it be known that his
Speaker 1: opus work is profit of Evil Els There Crowley nine
Speaker 1: to eleven in the New World Order, and he's a
Speaker 1: favorite for a bunch of us, to include Randy Loggins
Speaker 1: and Gordon Comstock, and we were happy that he came
Speaker 1: on to kick off the beginning of whatever. This is
Speaker 1: the tenth year of the many manifestations that we know
Speaker 1: as the Grassy know. But any rate, I just want
Speaker 1: to share something with folks real quick, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just as an icebreaker, something to consider because as much
Speaker 1: as William and I are talking about life, and you
Speaker 1: still have to live it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: matter what's going on there and how nuts it is,
Speaker 1: how bad it was perhaps in the ghettos in Warsaw,
Speaker 1: and we could only own, Yes, you've got to go
Speaker 1: on every day. There's got to be something you can
Speaker 1: extract from the day as something worth living for because
Speaker 1: you're not going this way again. And I mean use
Speaker 1: me for this. I just think it's just one of
Speaker 1: these things I have to share with you.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: I listened to WCBS eight eighty AM out of New
Speaker 1: York on the stream it's all news radio, and I
Speaker 1: heard this very early this morning because I couldn't sleep
Speaker 1: at five o'clock in the morning. I just want to
Speaker 1: share this with you. This is like one of these
Speaker 1: things like here's the bad news, here's the good news. Okay,
Speaker 1: it says suv falls from upper level of FDR drive
Speaker 1: slams into cab below. Let me just summit this up.
Speaker 1: An suv with eight seven people eight people was on
Speaker 1: an elevated section at three am in the morning on
Speaker 1: the FDR at a point where it goes up around
Speaker 1: twenty third and I know this area.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Now what happens is somebody's out there attending to a
Speaker 1: car off on the side, and here's this noise. This
Speaker 1: suv comes toppling over from the elevated roadway at least
Speaker 1: fifteen feet to the roadway below, lands upside down, but
Speaker 1: on a cab who had no fare. Here's the story.
Speaker 1: This is not good that you would flip off an
Speaker 1: elevated roadway with however many people in an suv. If
Speaker 1: you hit the pavement, you're probably all dead. Forget your seatbelts. Well,
Speaker 1: this hit the passenger side of a cab and broke
Speaker 1: the fall so that the suv rolled off the cab
Speaker 1: and righted itself on its wheels. The cabby had no
Speaker 1: fare You care where you get where I'm going with this? No, Well,
Speaker 1: my point is, here's the bad news. Oh, this suv
Speaker 1: is going over with all seven of us, and it's
Speaker 1: not going to be good. The good news is we
Speaker 1: hit a cab roof the roof and we don't get
Speaker 1: the real bad blunt trauma. We flip over and land
Speaker 1: up rout of the wheels and the bonuses. The cabby
Speaker 1: had no fare.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: But when you know, when I hear this stuff, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean, what are the odds that that could have
Speaker 1: all happened in that way? Anyway, nobody's died yet, and
Speaker 1: everybody can walk away. My point, I guess and saying
Speaker 1: this is that life is very random. Crazy things happened,
Speaker 1: and some people walk away and some people don't. So
Speaker 1: at any rate, forgive me for you know, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking at this because I know
Speaker 1: the area. I'm like, uh, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1: An empty cab and the Cabby's like, yeah, it's all right,
Speaker 1: and uh no he could He didn't say I do
Speaker 1: a fucking knight. No, he didn't do that. So anyway,
Speaker 1: here we are. We're back into what we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into the nitty gritty. And obviously, folks, is people more,
Speaker 1: we're more aware of this. We would ask this of
Speaker 1: the Christian community that doesn't work too well with the
Speaker 1: rest of the world. How do you explain it? It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of like this thing where people understand it's
Speaker 1: evil and they kick around Satan once in a while,
Speaker 1: but if you tell them it's institutionalized and it's been
Speaker 1: with us for a long long time, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get many people going, uh yeah, you're probably right. And
Speaker 1: herein lies the problem. And this is what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw it to you. And by the way, folks, if
Speaker 1: you want to call in, you can do so. From
Speaker 1: this point off. It's fair six one eight nine to
Speaker 1: one to two four six eight one six one eight
Speaker 1: nine one two four six eight one. It doesn't cost
Speaker 1: much an eight hundred number, but you'll live with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to you at William And here's
Speaker 1: the point now, The second phase I got into is
Speaker 1: I realized that this is a very spiritual matter. You
Speaker 1: can't make much headway with Heathens and those who don't
Speaker 1: believe in such because they keep thinking that the human
Speaker 1: spirit will elevate with you. And that's another whole story.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm asking you, now, you got into all
Speaker 1: this stuff and when you actually entered the via the
Speaker 1: whole arena of nine to eleven, and how A called
Speaker 1: that was? Uh? I tell you why. For all of us,
Speaker 1: it's pretty sickening. But how did you progress?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it is sickening, but uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I just wanted to get the word out.
Speaker 4: There were other people who saw saw different facets than
Speaker 4: I did, but uh, I think that, you know, I
Speaker 4: just wanted to led people to see that it was
Speaker 4: not just a cultural or political event but a spiritual event,
Speaker 4: much like you know Hitler. You know, Hitler's Reichstag fire
Speaker 4: was a political event, but it was also him instituting
Speaker 4: a Satanic h you know, ideology and political structure. And
Speaker 4: that's what I see with nine to eleven is the
Speaker 4: same kind of slave state mentality that's against them, total war, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, driving people into poverty, feud neo feudalism, and
Speaker 4: uh you know, so I see that nine to eleven
Speaker 4: was a you know, uh harbinger of those types of
Speaker 4: political changes that have taken place in this country, in
Speaker 4: the world. So you know, I want to I want
Speaker 4: people to see that that you know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: more beyond the material world that's taking place all right now.
Speaker 1: But bring yourself back to the time, because I think
Speaker 1: this is necessary for people to believe, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there too. I mean, we have
Speaker 1: also and that's the reason I asked you about you know,
Speaker 1: you being okay with your wife and myself being okay
Speaker 1: with my wife. We see have people coming in here
Speaker 1: who are like coming in by themselves and uh not
Speaker 1: going I'm being by any you know, condescending, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, go so far. But you got to let
Speaker 1: you gotta let your spouse know what's going on, because
Speaker 1: I've seen disasters and it shouldn't have been that way,
Speaker 1: but it was. And this happens really honestly goodness with
Speaker 1: the more intelligent, higher up people, it's almost like, what
Speaker 1: are you trying to do, dear? Destroy this whole thing?
Speaker 1: And I don't make it. I also don't want to
Speaker 1: make it a male entry type of thing. This happens
Speaker 1: on both sides. The guys might write me more yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but they're not the only ones. But so what I'm
Speaker 1: going to throw you back to. I mean, there was
Speaker 1: a point where and I'll tell you there's a point
Speaker 1: when I said to my lab is taking me here
Speaker 1: a second, Come on me, sit down and just listen
Speaker 1: to this. And then when it started, I don't know
Speaker 1: who it was and what audio file it was, but
Speaker 1: she had known, you know that I had misgivings because
Speaker 1: I did have eyes and ears, and I was a
Speaker 1: couple of plays. I mean, I was in DC like yourself,
Speaker 1: and then this other thing that happened, and it's like, look,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a little upsetting, but it's the truth.
Speaker 1: How about you? I mean, again not the hammer at home,
Speaker 1: But was there a point where you said.
Speaker 4: Damn, well, I think that you know, she had known
Speaker 4: my personality and that I was a reader, and that
Speaker 4: I would consider, you know, sources and confirm and look
Speaker 4: for proof and evidence. So you know, I think that
Speaker 4: it was more gradual, and I don't think she's you know,
Speaker 4: I think that she would prefer if I never looked
Speaker 4: at anything. But it's bothered me. And you know, it's
Speaker 4: troubling when you have a political system that's evil and
Speaker 4: gone sour. It's disturbing and it's bad, you know, and
Speaker 4: especially when it has an effect upon what you deem
Speaker 4: to want your country to be, in your society to be.
Speaker 4: You know. So I think that she in one sense,
Speaker 4: would would wish that it never happened. And I think
Speaker 4: in another sense, you know, she sees, she sees that
Speaker 4: me raising other people's awareness is positive, you know, and
Speaker 4: that people should take comfort in the fact that this
Speaker 4: is happening by design, that it isn't you know, some
Speaker 4: kind of you know, it's just happening, and it's not
Speaker 4: just happening. These are these are these are concerted efforts
Speaker 4: to you know, create wars, to uh destroy the infrastructure
Speaker 4: and economy of the United States, and to you know,
Speaker 4: increase the burden upon the people tax through taxation and
Speaker 4: the inflation of the dollar and manipulation. So it's a
Speaker 4: you know, to see that in the big picture and
Speaker 4: then see that the whole economy has always been manipulated,
Speaker 4: probably since the add that to fiat currency, and so
Speaker 4: you know, it's a they shouldn't see it. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, people shouldn't be like, oh gosh, such a failure,
Speaker 4: or you know, why is this happening. It's happening because
Speaker 4: people want it to happen.
Speaker 2: At the top.
Speaker 4: There's an evil elite who are pulling the strings on it,
Speaker 4: and you know, uh, I guess my point is is
Speaker 4: that it's good to see it for what it is
Speaker 4: instead of like, oh, you know, some up touse Christian
Speaker 4: out there is going to say, oh, this is God's
Speaker 4: will or you know this economies might fault, or you know,
Speaker 4: it's not it's really not. It's because there's evil people
Speaker 4: at the cop that you know, the religious leaders have
Speaker 4: failed to point out and reel against, you know, So
Speaker 4: it's uh, you know, I mean, there's there's not My
Speaker 4: book is just connecting a couple of two or three
Speaker 4: dots on a picture that has twenty more dots, and
Speaker 4: most of the people who've read it I can connect
Speaker 4: the rest of the dots and understand, you know, what
Speaker 4: it points at.
Speaker 1: But you know you have a caller, But I want
Speaker 1: to say, will you and win the reasons why a
Speaker 1: bunch of us found favor with you is because you
Speaker 1: do have a well developed brain and you went at
Speaker 1: it in a certain manner that attracted us all because
Speaker 1: it was very like I said, it wasn't crazy, it
Speaker 1: wasn't hysterical. He was fact And even though it deals
Speaker 1: with an evil side, though a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: want to win it. And we're going to go back
Speaker 1: to that later because you know, people are only going
Speaker 1: to go so far with evil, but not our politicians. No, sorry,
Speaker 1: that's not going to work. But anyway, let me just
Speaker 1: break for a second, and we have a caller by
Speaker 1: all means Jim Brigham on or Huron.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey is Yeah, it's steam from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: No not you, Yeah, me the only one?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: But are you.
Speaker 2: Okay? I have a question for Bill? Uh? You know,
Speaker 2: I like most of the people you know, are around
Speaker 2: nine to one one. Uh. You know, rurehood wink by
Speaker 2: the fact that you know this is terrorism, this is this,
Speaker 2: this is that, and you know you fell for it
Speaker 2: in the beginning. But I always thought it was strange
Speaker 2: that I think within the month of the event happening,
Speaker 2: those attacks, is that President Bush comes on TV and
Speaker 2: he says, you know, we need a definitive amount of
Speaker 2: money for the creation of Department on Land Security. And
Speaker 2: I think it was like forty seven billion dollars or
Speaker 2: something like that was the was the you know, the
Speaker 2: monetary amount. But does that have a connection. Is there
Speaker 2: a connection between this Hitler type of government or this mentality?
Speaker 2: And really, you know, that's the only thing that I
Speaker 2: saw that I thought maybe it was free planned because
Speaker 2: I couldn't get over the fact or I couldn't come
Speaker 2: to glitz with the fact that the government may have
Speaker 2: had something to do with it.
Speaker 4: But I didn't it took I didn't either. I didn't
Speaker 4: want to come to terms with the facts that the
Speaker 4: government did it either.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not qualifying you. I'm just I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to figure out you know, yeah, you know, okay.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm just saying that I don't like my
Speaker 4: conclusions either. I freethought and thought my conclusions thousands of times,
Speaker 4: but I can't escape them. So, you know, you only
Speaker 4: come down to one, you know, conclusion, and that it
Speaker 4: was the inside job. But I think that it was
Speaker 4: part of a structured plan. These guys had a blue
Speaker 4: or blueprint that they instituted, uh and it was so
Speaker 4: quick and it's such a shock to people that they
Speaker 4: couldn't even see it coming. And it's probably the same
Speaker 4: thing about like Hiller. You know, nobody saw these abuses
Speaker 4: as they you know, it was just one thing after
Speaker 4: the next. I think one of the writers about the
Speaker 4: Likes tag is that these things happened so fast and
Speaker 4: so quick that the people just acquiesced. In the United States,
Speaker 4: people did too, you know, they judged it.
Speaker 2: They didn't have that sense, right, you know, like you know,
Speaker 2: it could be to me, it could be either you know,
Speaker 2: they either planned it and you know, had wanted to
Speaker 2: set this department up as a means of control, pre planned,
Speaker 2: or they took advantage of a situation and did something
Speaker 2: that they wanted to do or law you know, what,
Speaker 2: what does it seem to be like to you? You know,
Speaker 2: they're taking advantage and.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, it's fully planned and intentional. It
Speaker 4: was planned before the event. They didn't take advantage. There's
Speaker 4: no way in nineteen people in Afghanistan could control the
Speaker 4: style of the skies of the United States and create
Speaker 4: those events and drop Building seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, you know, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not that a lot.
Speaker 1: Of people Jane Jean, let them go.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that there are a lot of weak
Speaker 4: minded people who cannot put together things. And I mean,
Speaker 4: that's not a nice thing to say, but they can't.
Speaker 4: They they don't key in onto the most salient points
Speaker 4: of the event. The salient points are there are huge
Speaker 4: amounts of military test things going on that day and
Speaker 4: Building seven drop period, So you can get some people
Speaker 4: who can't key into those important facts to talk about
Speaker 4: mystery planes and radars and stuff like that from the
Speaker 4: sky and frankly, they're just weak minded and it's sad.
Speaker 4: But the real reality is nobody from Afghanistan dropped Building
Speaker 4: seven outside of this country, and then you have to
Speaker 4: deal with that fact everyb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I always can't you know. I always
Speaker 2: had a hard time dealing with that. You know that
Speaker 2: that aspect, I as too.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time to let me let me
Speaker 1: go in that conversation. I'm sorry. At this time when
Speaker 1: this happened, there was a listener who works for a
Speaker 1: PR firm in Chicago. He had stated to me, now,
Speaker 1: the problem here is and just understand what a muddies.
Speaker 1: The waters here is that he is a born again Jew.
Speaker 1: I hate that term. You're either you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're Christian whatever. All right, all right, fine, but his
Speaker 1: problem is he wants the average to be responsible for
Speaker 1: nine to eleven just because he's Jewish. And of course
Speaker 1: he doesn't have anything to do with Israel. He lives
Speaker 1: in Chicago any rate. But he told me, he said,
Speaker 1: and I mean his information was good. He said that
Speaker 1: the Rand Corporation. Now understand me here, the Rand Corporation,
Speaker 1: not your buddies. By the way, folks were in that
Speaker 1: office and they were bragging about how they had developed
Speaker 1: the Patriot Act like five to ten years before. They
Speaker 1: were just waiting for them the moment that happened, which
Speaker 1: of course they knew it would. My point is this
Speaker 1: Congress can't get a freaking lunch order right, let alone
Speaker 1: whip that thing together, that Patriot Act in what ten working.
Speaker 2: Days was real quick. It was very is that those
Speaker 2: those bills, there are tons of bills that are awful
Speaker 2: draconian that sit there and wait, they're already pre drafted, done.
Speaker 4: They've been worked on, massage, they've been read, you know,
Speaker 4: reading up to a bill there are two names, and
Speaker 4: they're waiting for the right moment to put those in.
Speaker 4: And people who are experiencing Washington politics know how to
Speaker 4: get a bill through that they want through. They wait
Speaker 4: for that right event, whether it's random or structured, and
Speaker 4: then say, it's fun to put this bill through, whether
Speaker 4: it's good or not. So it's not it's not a
Speaker 4: random occurrence.
Speaker 2: The events.
Speaker 4: They knew they were going to put the Patriot Act in,
Speaker 4: and the Patriot Act is this nice or willy in
Speaker 4: phrase that you know, sounds good to the majority of
Speaker 4: the people. They want to believe it's good for them,
Speaker 4: and it's it's uh, It'sirconi and it's not good.
Speaker 2: It's it's well, I was Alway Jays on instinct, you know,
Speaker 2: not you know, who knows what's in these bills? I mean,
Speaker 2: you know they're so big and so huge, and you
Speaker 2: know you don't know what's in them, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? But on instinct, you know, just saying the
Speaker 2: Department of Home rand Security, doesn't that Hays, you know,
Speaker 2: doesn't that resonate with anybody? Doesn't that sound like it's
Speaker 2: you know, right out of nineteen forty two Germany.
Speaker 4: You know, exactly, and there's already Here's the thing is
Speaker 4: that there's already enough intelligence, military institutions and things overseeing
Speaker 4: everything that why would you need another level of security.
Speaker 4: I mean that we already have things in place to
Speaker 4: allay you know, terrorism. I mean, it's it's just it's
Speaker 4: only there for the American people, period.
Speaker 1: Let me share some with mos of you guys. Me
Speaker 1: to pop off, But there was something I did. I
Speaker 1: found when I was working at Saint Leo's Library. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got these donations from history professors. We got like
Speaker 1: three of them. What I saw called out I jumped
Speaker 1: on like you can imagine me. One of them was,
Speaker 1: excuse me, a transcript of a two day conference at
Speaker 1: let me think now. It was Harvard in nineteen fifty five,
Speaker 1: and one of the speakers was a leading Republican from
Speaker 1: New York State by the name of James Lord O'Brien,
Speaker 1: and he gave a speech and would knock your socks off.
Speaker 1: I've done a show about this, I've done another show
Speaker 1: about this, and I'll put this audio back up again.
Speaker 1: That gentleman understood exactly what was going on, and he
Speaker 1: warned everybody about giving up your supposed liberties for the
Speaker 1: promise of security. Oh man, is that right? Now, here's
Speaker 1: another thing. There was something that was past called the
Speaker 1: mccaren Act, also known as the Internal Security Act around
Speaker 1: I'm thinking nineteen fifty four. That sucker was worse than
Speaker 1: the Patriot Act because it was so vague. You could
Speaker 1: bring anybody else you wanted to. But remember what was
Speaker 1: going on at that time. We weren't worried about Islamic boogeymen.
Speaker 1: Then we were worried about the cursed Red menace, and
Speaker 1: that's what they were going at. Thank god. Look, you
Speaker 1: know what happened with Hollywood and that whole witch hunt thing,
Speaker 1: and it happened in other industries as well. But thank
Speaker 1: god that Internal Security Act didn't actually get an active
Speaker 1: because it was nastier than Patriot Act. The reason I'm
Speaker 1: bringing this up is is that this country and that
Speaker 1: blessed gentleman O'Brien knew what was going on. He knew
Speaker 1: where government was tilting toward because they were moved by
Speaker 1: something else, and what was going on was the constriction
Speaker 1: of all freedoms. He comes down to what Louis Brandai said,
Speaker 1: who was also no favorite, you know, no favorite of ours.
Speaker 1: He said, the most sacred, the most sacred right in
Speaker 1: America is the right to be left alone. Now you
Speaker 1: figure out whether that's happened or not, and I'm out,
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, I mean yeah, they've been at this
Speaker 1: for a while. They've been added for fifty freaking years
Speaker 1: since World War Two, and now they're really drawing the
Speaker 1: news close to us. And he's idiots that we live
Speaker 1: with are like, oh, do whatever you have to do. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do. Sorry, do you know
Speaker 1: you're still there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I refer to you. You referred to the
Speaker 2: mccount Act. But I read an autobiography of Harry Truman
Speaker 2: where he states that he passed the National Security Act
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty seven, and yeah, we went through that yet, right,
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you can hear that because he called it.
Speaker 2: He eventually calls it the biggest mistake of his presidency,
Speaker 2: and that those.
Speaker 1: Guys can say whatever they want after the fact. You
Speaker 1: know what you already did to us. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, sorry, doesn't cut it. But that's when
Speaker 1: he made not Now we talked about that, well, we
Speaker 1: we emailed about that. That's when he did what he
Speaker 1: changed something over it the c I A. Right.
Speaker 2: In other words, LSS became the c I A. Uh,
Speaker 2: the NSA was created. And as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: from what I remember I read, I read it quite
Speaker 2: some time ago, is that presidents can't even read what's
Speaker 2: in that act. Nobody can, you know, it's it's and
Speaker 2: it says it tramples the Constitution. I forget where else
Speaker 2: I read it. It might have been referred to maybe
Speaker 2: in the book called The Secret Team or or one
Speaker 2: of those types of books. Uh, Fletcher Proud, he wrote
Speaker 2: a book, uh like that, And they you know, this
Speaker 2: has been done, you know before you know, and they
Speaker 2: just keep doing the same things over and over again.
Speaker 2: You know. But we already you know, And people are saying,
Speaker 2: like I slided to myself, and they created homeland security.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, well, we already got the National Security Act
Speaker 2: and don't know what that is exactly except that it
Speaker 2: created these new security intelligence agencies and that the presidents
Speaker 2: can't read it. So and people have said that it
Speaker 2: tramples the Constitution, which I now know that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: a fricking thing to us, because so, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: where does this where does this lend towards the occult
Speaker 2: as well. That's another thing that I would like to know.
Speaker 1: All right, that's a good question. We've got to bring
Speaker 1: Bill back into this, and it's something that's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard for a lot of people to swallow. And that's
Speaker 1: the one thing I did want to go back into.
Speaker 1: So honestly, thank you for bringing that up, Jeans, and
Speaker 1: that is Bill. You know, here's the point. Can you
Speaker 1: go to Christians with this? Can you go to the
Speaker 1: world with this? I mean, we're dealing with something that's
Speaker 1: absolutely freaking satanic, But yes, that doesn't fly with almost anybody.
Speaker 4: Well, then the Christians who are what comprised the Christians
Speaker 4: and the Muslims don't believe what they read.
Speaker 2: That's simple. I don't believe what they read.
Speaker 4: No, because the whole, the whole New Testament UH talks
Speaker 4: about the devil and quoted by their Messiah and he
Speaker 4: uses the term many times, and they cast out devils,
Speaker 4: and there's talks about Satan. He was tempted by the devil.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: There is the same thing within you know, the Muslim
Speaker 4: tradition and even the Old Testament has these you know,
Speaker 4: spiritual events.
Speaker 1: So you know, but let's go to a bigger scope though, too.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about what this really means. I mean,
Speaker 1: we all look Christians and otherwise and this is what
Speaker 1: drives me nuts. We all sit there and we hear
Speaker 1: about God and all that other stuff, and we have
Speaker 1: and you know this has happened, Bill, There's been this
Speaker 1: many fact, your connection between Jehovah after Christ, death and resurrection,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and government like God said, okay, hey, oh
Speaker 1: you guys get this. If you're really Christian, go to
Speaker 1: the United States because that's really cool. That's bologny. So
Speaker 1: now let me just start there. I know that's an
Speaker 1: abrasive thing to say, but it's like, there is no
Speaker 1: connection between secular government and the Lord, especially in the
Speaker 1: New Covenant, and yet we're dealing with all this stuff
Speaker 1: and even Christians will admit that that's true, and yet
Speaker 1: they won't look at the satanic side of the fact
Speaker 1: of what's running this country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm well, you know, there's been very few governments
Speaker 4: that have been truly inspired by the you know, the
Speaker 4: doctrines of God, and uh, that's an unfortunate reality, but uh,
Speaker 4: you know, typically not that way. And I think, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe Originally with the founder of the Colonists, they had
Speaker 4: a more Christian view, more communalistic, you know, original Christian
Speaker 4: kind of approach to daily life. But you know it
Speaker 4: certainly isn't that way anymore in this country.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, if we could, if this is time
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 1: go there or not. But see, here's my problem. This
Speaker 1: country was the produce of an investment by the crown,
Speaker 1: and that's what we got all these places. Okay, I
Speaker 1: get it, Pilgrims went to like Massachusetts. I understand all
Speaker 1: that stuff, Puritans, but you know what, that really wasn't
Speaker 1: the deal. If you take a look at anything south
Speaker 1: of them. It was all about business and this idea
Speaker 1: that well they were all Protestants at that time. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that. I mean, I don't care. But the
Speaker 1: thing is the government did not act as you would
Speaker 1: expect a Christian whatever government to be. And that's when
Speaker 1: I get into this thing about all right, now, tell
Speaker 1: me exactly where Jehovah said this school. I know that's
Speaker 1: like very vague and stuff, but I'm going to ask
Speaker 1: you to hit that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's I mean it's uh,
Speaker 4: it's a tough it's a tough one. I think that
Speaker 4: there is a you know this it's interesting that with
Speaker 4: the expansion of all these colonialism and everything like that,
Speaker 4: there was and it includes we were once colonists the
Speaker 4: United States, but we the colonists, the religious Christian colonists
Speaker 4: also went to other countries India, China, and there was
Speaker 4: always this uh, you know, Christian thing, but they always
Speaker 4: brought business with them and uh, you know, even the
Speaker 4: same thing in this country. So I forgot what the book.
Speaker 4: I think it might be uh Lever's other productant work Ethic. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I can't remember the book, but there's a tie there
Speaker 4: that's uh, you know, it's it's something that's always always
Speaker 4: been followed as Christian. I mean even when the you know,
Speaker 4: the the British controlled India was you know, this Critish
Speaker 4: Christian idea, but they're always a financial element there and
Speaker 4: same with China, and so you know, it's the same
Speaker 4: thing in this country. There was this topical thing about
Speaker 4: the manifest destiny and you know, we want a place
Speaker 4: to be free and live be free, but there was
Speaker 4: always that that fundamental economic element that we can't seem
Speaker 4: to get away from or you know, it's always and
Speaker 4: it it dominates everything. Unfortunately, you know, it's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: So I want to I want to get back to
Speaker 1: that too, because that's really really interesting because one at
Speaker 1: one time we have a color. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: get to them.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got to get off this Poe two guys later.
Speaker 1: Just stay later, bro. At one point they hang out
Speaker 1: the proselyation thing and then then of course you come
Speaker 1: over the statehood. We got to pull up from Kansas
Speaker 1: by all means.
Speaker 3: Come on, Yeah, this is Jason Grander from just outside
Speaker 3: of Wichita, Kansas. I was calling because I believe it's
Speaker 3: in the Book of Zachararyah. It speaks of a passage
Speaker 3: where it instructs the children of Israel or the daughters
Speaker 3: of Israel to separate themselves from the children of Babylon
Speaker 3: because they're spoiled by their servants. And I didn't exactly
Speaker 3: have a quote in front of me right now, but
Speaker 3: I read that, I don't know, around about the time,
Speaker 3: just shortly after the passage of the Act that produced
Speaker 3: the seven hundred some billion dollar bailout that George Bush
Speaker 3: past and when I read it, it just linked up with
Speaker 3: me that basically, that particular passage may have had something
Speaker 3: to do with that particular scripture, or that particular scripture
Speaker 3: I had something to do with the particular events that
Speaker 3: were going on at that time. But if I had
Speaker 3: it in front of me, i'd caught it verbatim. But
Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask. I said, vis you an
Speaker 3: email within the past week or so, an email with
Speaker 3: a PDF attached about how the federal government back in
Speaker 3: sixty seven was being charged two times for treasury bonds
Speaker 3: that were held by the Federal Reserve, on bonds that
Speaker 3: were actually already paid for. And I was just wondering
Speaker 3: if I get your take on that.
Speaker 1: No, but but we've all that you've said, though, because
Speaker 1: there's a wider scope of what you just uh, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of entered this conversation with what I'm asking you
Speaker 1: is and we've spoke before, and I remember you but
Speaker 1: none that's okay. But but the point is this, that's
Speaker 1: where we're driving at. And I'm not ducking any specific questions,
Speaker 1: but it's like our I guess the only way to
Speaker 1: say it is is our government screwing us? Yes, is
Speaker 1: a Christian, No, no matter who says what about I mean,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen a president that wasn't Christian? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, so I don't mean it to mean what
Speaker 1: you've asked, but when you get down in particulars, does
Speaker 1: it not always come out in the end? We basically
Speaker 1: get flushed most definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I managed to during your question. Yeah, we always
Speaker 3: get flushed. Uh. I mean, and that's that's was so
Speaker 3: disheartening about everything that's going on. I mean, I remember
Speaker 3: right around just shortly after the attacks on nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: I was like, I was among those who were persuaded
Speaker 3: that somehow or another, sound Bin Laden and the terrorist
Speaker 3: hijackers supposedly had some hand or part in nine eleven,
Speaker 3: and I was all about, let's go get him. I
Speaker 3: had that mindset or mentality, and I don't know it was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't until about two thousand and two, two thousand
Speaker 3: and three, in which I came across information about a
Speaker 3: local UH when back when I was living in Denver,
Speaker 3: a local privately owned radio station broadcasting out Joshtown, Colorado.
Speaker 3: Know that I actually came across UH a j if
Speaker 3: you will, and UH, I was just like uh and then,
Speaker 3: and basically that's what woke me up in everything. It
Speaker 3: was just like And from that point on, I've been
Speaker 3: delving into to the best of my ability because I'm
Speaker 3: a I'm not I'm not a learned scholarly type that
Speaker 3: some may be. But I happened to uh pus my
Speaker 3: way through high school to the point where I dropped
Speaker 3: out before I actually obtained a uh diploma. But I
Speaker 3: went and got my ged. But I mean, a lot
Speaker 3: of this stuff is so I just don't get it
Speaker 3: because most of the people that I speak with or
Speaker 3: half spoke within the past.
Speaker 1: Do you still vote?
Speaker 2: Oh? Hell no?
Speaker 3: I actually, as a matter of fact, hell no, I
Speaker 3: don't know. As a matter just to clarify my position,
Speaker 3: about two thousand and seven, I sent a scathing letter
Speaker 3: to the the voters registration office out in Colorado, in
Speaker 3: the county that I was registered, requesting or demanding my
Speaker 3: name be removed from the voter registration roles because I
Speaker 3: didn't want to participate with the fraud and the scam
Speaker 3: being portrayed against the American people. And so I don't
Speaker 3: even remember receiving a letter of acknowledgment from them, but
Speaker 3: I had to go down to the voter registration for
Speaker 3: the county in which I resided in and get a
Speaker 3: letter of acknowledgment supporting the fact that I actually had
Speaker 3: myself removed from the voter registration role, and as a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, precedent to that, I hadn't voted in like, uh,
Speaker 3: at least two elections proceeding the point when I said
Speaker 3: I'd refuse to actually participate in the fraud or conspiracy.
Speaker 1: So all right, listen, We thank you for listening, but
Speaker 1: I would ask you also, is there a pointed question
Speaker 1: you want to ask Bill? I mean, because I'm I
Speaker 1: don't you know, we've been you and I have thought before.
Speaker 1: I got no problem with that whatsoever. Hope for the
Speaker 1: sake of at least addressing something to Bill while he's here,
Speaker 1: because he's I'll be here always, he won't. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to ask Bill now?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to speak to you and tell you
Speaker 3: I appreciate your show and everything, and I appreciate Bill
Speaker 3: for coming on, and I hope you guys continue to
Speaker 3: pile through the researches you guys are doing and the
Speaker 3: farm us that are less cerebely endowed.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: Thank you did thank you. Thanks all right, bro, good night.
Speaker 1: Uh you know again William where we last left off again,
Speaker 1: how do you know I'm telling you this is not
Speaker 1: easy to do. You got a whole thing with Christians
Speaker 1: and they don't get it because they've been tied into
Speaker 1: this thing about And we were talking about this a
Speaker 1: bit before, and I know you were trying to get
Speaker 1: out of there real quick. My point is this countries.
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned. From what I understand from scriptures,
Speaker 1: mercantilism is at panic. It's okay that we that we
Speaker 1: get involved in it. He understands. He withdrew himself because
Speaker 1: the tribes and everyone else says, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: want the buying law to take a hike. That's a
Speaker 1: real I know, I know it's it's it's.
Speaker 4: So they had it set up there, the twelve tribes
Speaker 4: and everything like that, and they wanted a king. So
Speaker 4: I think when they set this country up, you know,
Speaker 4: it was uh, they were trying to move away from
Speaker 4: that in a more you know, return to that actually
Speaker 4: without a king, in a more sophisticated manner. But over
Speaker 4: time it's corrupted.
Speaker 1: Then let me ask you this, This is a tough question,
Speaker 1: and you get the time to answer it, and I
Speaker 1: think you have with you with your work as a whole,
Speaker 1: which isn't fair to ask you to pigeonhole it right now,
Speaker 1: but of course I will. My problem is is that
Speaker 1: we have this what I consider false construct about Christians
Speaker 1: thinking that this country that that Jesus said, what Jehovah said.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I think this happens after Christ's appearance. Here.
Speaker 1: The reason I'm saying, because we don't live under the law.
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't smite, you know, the Ammonites because we
Speaker 1: don't like them. Right, But I mean, and I'm like, folks,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: a country. I only understand Jesus has concerned with souls
Speaker 1: one by one individually. This bit about well, this nation
Speaker 1: has to repent, this nation's not going to repent.
Speaker 2: Is an individual?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, is that a nation on the world.
Speaker 1: And let's get to Israel Lawso do you think everyone
Speaker 1: in Israel is so sold out to Judaism? Are you serious? No,
Speaker 1: nobody seeks after God. Let's fail.
Speaker 4: Viva is run by like crime families, like the mafia.
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy I mean, people have this kind of
Speaker 4: notion that everybody over there is, you know, religious on
Speaker 4: a holiday. I mean, there is a minority that's religious,
Speaker 4: and the judy is in the sense, but those people
Speaker 4: are very Western in any ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But so so here's where we go. Let's stop
Speaker 1: fixing secular things to what what the Lord wanted? Now,
Speaker 1: remember something, also, I think we can agree that the
Speaker 1: that the blurring of the lines between the state and
Speaker 1: the church was blurred by the church who took the
Speaker 1: cheese for a five oh one c three church. And
Speaker 1: I mean, if Jesus is here, I'm thinking he's like,
Speaker 1: what did I tell you about? That's not what we're about.
Speaker 1: That's the world. We don't need to do that. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that's being so rash. But then again,
Speaker 1: now take that beyond that, and here's the really great lie.
Speaker 1: If you can make Americans believe that everything they do
Speaker 1: is okay, this goes beyond nationalism in this sense. If
Speaker 1: you think you've got it spiritually backed by God, this
Speaker 1: is nationalism on steroids. I mean, this is like, whatever
Speaker 1: we do, you know, it's okay. And I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, this is this is a recipe
Speaker 1: for disaster. So here we are at a very pivotal time.
Speaker 1: You know, people aren't liking what's going on in the country.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. We're looking for someone to blame. All
Speaker 1: right now, I can hear you know where I'm going
Speaker 1: with this, and I need not explain more. Go with it.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just I don't know. I mean, the Germans
Speaker 4: had gotten the Tunbs, you know, God with us as
Speaker 4: they went over and ravaged and killed millions of people.
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't see a lot of difference here.
Speaker 4: I think that people can be led to believe all
Speaker 4: kinds of stuff. I don't know where that jibed with
Speaker 4: the Bible. You know that you go kill, you know,
Speaker 4: live out of killing a bunch of innocent women and
Speaker 4: children in Iraq, I don't understand that. So, you know
Speaker 4: these I think that the people who run the country
Speaker 4: are extremely cynical and are not afraid to pervert or
Speaker 4: you know, misuse Christianity to further their aims unfortunately, and
Speaker 4: I think the Christian Church, and this is a general,
Speaker 4: are more than willing to go along with them without
Speaker 4: challenging them. And you know, they're like in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 4: There were huge battles within within the German Christian Church
Speaker 4: with the Catholics and non Catholic I mean, everybody was
Speaker 4: fighting about what to do. And the Pope Pious was
Speaker 4: a go along person who didn't complain about the satanic
Speaker 4: abuses of Hitler. But there were some people who actually
Speaker 4: stood up. Bondhoeffer, you know, rescued Jews, Nie Mueller went
Speaker 4: to the concentration camp, and Bonhaeffer paid with paid with
Speaker 4: his life. I mean, so, you know, I don't think
Speaker 4: that there's a lot of different Now. I'm astonished at
Speaker 4: how little, you know, the Christians see this as evil.
Speaker 4: I mean, especially the ruling elite. I mean, like I
Speaker 4: said earlier, it's I don't know who's worth the evil
Speaker 4: under the people who go with it, you know. And
Speaker 4: I think of the line from from the from the
Speaker 4: Bible where Christ says, you know, you know, some of
Speaker 4: you cast out demons in a high name, but you
Speaker 4: go to heaven and I'll say, I knew ye not,
Speaker 4: you know, So there's a tough standard there and uh,
Speaker 4: I can't remember that that exact, but it's there somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. O.
Speaker 1: Again, this is honestly this is the toughest element that
Speaker 1: where we're going to come into. Now, for those who
Speaker 1: aren't Christian or say they're Christian or whatever, there's another
Speaker 1: whole level out there. They believe this is all on
Speaker 1: a secular level, and they usually usually believe in the
Speaker 1: I guess, enduring the spirit of humankind to rise above.
Speaker 1: I do not subscribe to that, and I think there's
Speaker 1: probably millennia of history to say that's not working. But
Speaker 1: we're not concerned with also is that so here you are.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lump you in with me necessarily,
Speaker 1: but I think we're trying to talk to people and saying, look,
Speaker 1: for Christians, understand that this has been provsied and get
Speaker 1: off seeing an ABC, NBC and all this other crap
Speaker 1: and just stop and take all right, all right, so
Speaker 1: let me stop.
Speaker 4: Right controlled lies and nonsense.
Speaker 1: Well but you see that's the point. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't like to say this stuff because it's personal,
Speaker 1: but I mean my father in all, I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: and he's like he's all over like what Fox, why,
Speaker 1: well they're what do they what do they say?
Speaker 4: They are fair? And why?
Speaker 1: Because they said some And I looked at him and
Speaker 1: that actually is the last conversation we haven't we've in
Speaker 1: two years. I mean, no, I'm not mocking anybody. It's like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, have a clue.
Speaker 4: I mean slogan. It's like it's a Nazistic, stalinistic slogan.
Speaker 2: How can you buy that? Why?
Speaker 4: What makes it trusted? What's why is it even news?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's let me ask you this, let me
Speaker 1: give you, let me get your take on this. As
Speaker 1: we're going down, we get about about fifty minutes left,
Speaker 1: and folks, you want to call call in out, do
Speaker 1: it and do it now. Here's what I want to
Speaker 1: ask you. Also, I'm thinking to myself how much the
Speaker 1: powers of evil have to be absolutely ticking their heels
Speaker 1: in the air. I've been laughing their asses off since
Speaker 1: the inception of TV. I won't say anything more. Your
Speaker 1: take on.
Speaker 4: That, I mean, uh, you know, I think it's a
Speaker 4: powerful medium. It's put you in a passive state, and
Speaker 4: you know it's flashes.
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's it's.
Speaker 4: It's incredibly powerful, and it's an incredibly powerful medium of control.
Speaker 4: And uh, I think that you know, there is a
Speaker 4: reason why the Chinese government wanted every person in China
Speaker 4: to have a television keeping pacified and easy and malleable.
Speaker 4: You know, if you watch five hours of TV, you're
Speaker 4: getting state propaganda and corporate propaganda. A lot of people
Speaker 4: oversee the fact that they're watching maybe twenty minutes of
Speaker 4: corporate propaganda an hour. If you're watching a TV show,
Speaker 4: h you know, hopefully you can scan through all that stuff.
Speaker 4: But you know they're you're you're you're being bored, You're
Speaker 4: being It's it's.
Speaker 1: A form of mind control I've had.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not the putting a chip in your
Speaker 4: head type, but you know it's Uh, they're conditioning you
Speaker 4: and pad doing it passively. So it's very dangerous, much
Speaker 4: more dangerous than people consider.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Crowley has come and gone as far as we know,
Speaker 1: and you did a lot of work on him, and
Speaker 1: you extrapolated that into what has happened since and also
Speaker 1: most marketably with nine to eleven and the Towers collapses.
Speaker 1: What I want to know from you is Crowley may
Speaker 1: have come and gone, but that I think spirit does
Speaker 1: not die with him, and they continues. And just give
Speaker 1: me your take on the research you've done and also
Speaker 1: your own spiritual leaf about how that has continued from
Speaker 1: his demise, you know, in at least in earth, you know,
Speaker 1: in a bodily sense. But what took place on a
Speaker 1: nine to eleven two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: Well, I just saw, you know, I saw Crowley the
Speaker 4: nexus point for all occultism. I mean, he drew on
Speaker 4: the path. He drew on all the big writers from
Speaker 4: Blovotsky and alt velfis Lev and you know, all these
Speaker 4: other people. The Golden Dawn created his own system, dispilled
Speaker 4: all that information, wrote voluminously, and left the repository for
Speaker 4: other people to use as a foundation to push the
Speaker 4: you know, the torch of Lucifer forward. And you know,
Speaker 4: when he died in forty seven, there are other people
Speaker 4: there to pick up that torch. And one of them
Speaker 4: was Timothy Leary. The other is Alroon Hobbard. Those are
Speaker 4: more notable, there's lesser evil lights. And clearly the people
Speaker 4: who instituted nine to eleven for me are also carrying
Speaker 4: that torch. And you know it's Hitler was influenced. Well,
Speaker 4: he knew JFD Fuller, who was a who wrote a
Speaker 4: book about Crowley. So there's really no you know, it's
Speaker 4: not like seven degrees of separation. It's two degrees of
Speaker 4: separation from Crowley to GFC. Fuller, who's a notable figure
Speaker 4: in his own right, and Adam Fhitler, and they all
Speaker 4: had contempt for Christianity. So they saw themselves within that
Speaker 4: same cosmology of the New Testament and the Old Testament,
Speaker 4: which is, you know, the simple battle between good and
Speaker 4: evil and what's good and what's evils maybe question that's
Speaker 4: been taken out of our public discourse intentionally. And you know,
Speaker 4: so I see nine to eleven as within the continuum
Speaker 4: or construct of not only a historical current that is
Speaker 4: an undercurrent that has come to the surface, but also
Speaker 4: within the context of prophecy and you know, Biblical end
Speaker 4: times material because it is the beginning of the third
Speaker 4: millennium and it's the time right now of transportation and communications,
Speaker 4: where that ancient dream, as George W. Bush said, the
Speaker 4: ancient dream of global control is within view. And a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't know that quote from Bush. They
Speaker 4: know that his quote of the new World Order, but
Speaker 4: you know he did say it was part of an
Speaker 4: ancient dream that to the desire for a new world order.
Speaker 1: So William, I'm about to re broadcast an audio I
Speaker 1: did a long time ago. I'm saying like a well
Speaker 1: four or something like that, where I just wanted to
Speaker 1: get an audio from a lecture given by a Dean
Speaker 1: Ann Marine Slaughter who comes from the Woodrow Wilson School
Speaker 1: of Government in Princeton.
Speaker 3: She gave a speech at.
Speaker 1: The UTH Texas Law of Law School at Austin, and
Speaker 1: it was amazing to listen to this because she had
Speaker 1: written a book, I mean, right out in your face,
Speaker 1: new world daughter, no problem about it. And she went
Speaker 1: out there and she popped off everything. And I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run it because I think people should understand
Speaker 1: it that that's the menu. Now. What happened was and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I continued the audio, I may
Speaker 1: not have. But when they got to the Q and A,
Speaker 1: everybody threw up softball questions and she fielded them. But
Speaker 1: there was some guy I had a left because his
Speaker 1: posture in the seat was like slung back arms over
Speaker 1: the backs of other seats, like he ain't buying this.
Speaker 1: And he asked to something and she brushed and then
Speaker 1: she said, well, it's only in the planning stage. Now
Speaker 1: here's where I'm going with this. Every time you hear
Speaker 1: or if they mean it or not, like seep out
Speaker 1: stuff that people are like, well, wait a second, I
Speaker 1: always hear time and time again, well it's only in
Speaker 1: the planning stage. Well look, honey, you are you're not
Speaker 1: planning it, not to do it. And that's the kind
Speaker 1: of insitious stuff that I hear. But here's where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with you. A lot of people who have
Speaker 1: asked me, well, what are we gonna do? And I
Speaker 1: just said, well, basically, okay, now let's face it. Accept
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ's savior. I mean, you know, fine, and or look,
Speaker 1: you got to live your life. You can't beat this thing.
Speaker 1: It's like too far gone. And I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be a pessimist. And William, you're gonna give me your
Speaker 1: take on it. It's like, do you understand what you're
Speaker 1: up against? This thing is crazy and I'll give it
Speaker 1: over to you.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean it's
Speaker 4: a tough one. Do you fight it?
Speaker 2: Do you resisted?
Speaker 1: Do you you know?
Speaker 4: I guess everybody has their own choice and all.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Each individual may be different, but I think that the
Speaker 4: first step is to be aware and understand the contours
Speaker 4: of the program, you know, and then make your decision.
Speaker 4: One of the best things to do is you know,
Speaker 4: and that's an intrigue that is constant themed throughout the Bible,
Speaker 4: has come out of battle on you know, and that
Speaker 4: is why take part in it? I mean, how great
Speaker 4: is it to be in debt and run after money
Speaker 4: and be part of the rat race? Is it really
Speaker 4: that satisfying some people? I mean, I've done it. It's
Speaker 4: not that for me, not that satisfying.
Speaker 2: So why do it?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: How much value is it to have free time and
Speaker 4: not be stuck in a cubicle working for that money
Speaker 4: you might be able to better off to go live
Speaker 4: on a farm, grow like a slave system or debt labor.
Speaker 3: But that.
Speaker 1: Bro, will you were still within me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's still here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim McKain. A little reverb here.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So you know, it's just something to be aware
Speaker 4: of avoid.
Speaker 1: Alright, hold on, let's let him clear it up by
Speaker 1: give it a shot, will you h?
Speaker 4: All right, Well, all I'm saying is that it's a
Speaker 4: good time to reconsider, re re raise yourself and uh,
Speaker 4: always be wary and watch and uh, you know, come
Speaker 4: out of babble one.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: All right, will you look thanks for being with us.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Uh, you look like we're having a
Speaker 1: little a bit of a problem. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you go and listen. Thanks for being with us,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk to you again.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Good night, William