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Speaker 1: Cold Connor and I'm Adam Ramsey. This is where we talk, shop,
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Speaker 1: Being creators as well as consumers of adult content.
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Speaker 4: Hello, what is he?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Hi col'connor.
Speaker 2: Hi Adam Ramsey.
Speaker 1: Hi. Yes, that's right. I am Adam Ramsey and I'm
Speaker 1: Cold Connor. And this is sorry for asking. Jump the
Speaker 1: gun on that a little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm okay, you're okay. Yeah, I'm a little bummed. I
Speaker 2: was working out on Friday and I was almost done
Speaker 2: and I went to do a little bicep curl. Yes,
Speaker 2: and I definitely popped something.
Speaker 3: You popped something.
Speaker 2: I definitely definitely tore something.
Speaker 3: From a bicep curl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did something a few months ago
Speaker 2: and I guess I've been being careful with it, but
Speaker 2: I thought it had felt better. And yeah, I heard
Speaker 2: the oh God, and was like yeah, and now there's
Speaker 2: like a little bruising.
Speaker 3: Do you stretch much?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I do all this mobility ship and
Speaker 2: it's like I think I just have put my body
Speaker 2: through it so many times, so much over the years
Speaker 2: training and right, yeah, well you look lovely fresh. Well
Speaker 2: I called I made an appointment with the same surgeon
Speaker 2: that did my hamstrings.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's like that bad like you need.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to take a surgeon. It's like it's
Speaker 2: not oh yeah, I see it looks like it's not attached.
Speaker 2: So oh god, Like I mean it's attached it like
Speaker 2: the end side.
Speaker 3: Are you in pain?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Not, so, I mean it felt it's only it has
Speaker 2: almost been a week, so I mean like it just
Speaker 2: feels you know, it'll feel weaker and yeah, it feel
Speaker 2: like like.
Speaker 3: You hear that everybody having muscles, you know, in a
Speaker 3: walk in.
Speaker 2: The park training is just fucking I mean, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: But I pro I told myself with the hamstrings because
Speaker 2: I put those off so that I could work and
Speaker 2: do you know, do scenes studio stuff, and like didn't
Speaker 2: really help me out to push it off. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: take care of your body first, Like body first, everything
Speaker 2: else later. Yeah, like you got to like make sure
Speaker 2: that the body is working, so take care of you. Yeah. So,
Speaker 2: I don't know I'm gonna I don't know what I'll do.
Speaker 2: I won't be able to give massages for like six weeks.
Speaker 1: No, maybe maybe this time you can get massages for
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you deserve it, but I need to make the
Speaker 2: money totally. Yes, that will be the problem anyway. There
Speaker 2: that yes, But let's get to our guests.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Yeah, I'm very excited about today's guests.
Speaker 1: It's very excited. I've been wanting to have this person
Speaker 1: on for a while. I have so many questions. We
Speaker 1: have the iconic legendary Land and Conrad.
Speaker 4: You guys.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you can't hear you.
Speaker 2: How's that?
Speaker 3: Yes? I can hear you now.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm great, looking, good to see you too. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us today. How's it going in
Speaker 1: this lovely, lovely may gray.
Speaker 4: It's good, it's good. Yeah, just enjoying the nice weather today,
Speaker 4: and I'm excited to be here with you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the time of this recording, it's been it's
Speaker 1: been kind of gray these days. But yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like summer is on its way.
Speaker 3: Yes, good, I know I'm a te uh huh are
Speaker 3: you big summer baby?
Speaker 4: Yes, definitely. That's why I live in LA because I
Speaker 4: love the beach, the sun, weather.
Speaker 3: You've been in La a long time?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have been in and out of Lay for
Speaker 4: about twenty years, but originally from Salt Lake City.
Speaker 3: So oh you are yea. What was it like boy here?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Is that true?
Speaker 3: You grew up Mormon?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Of course everyone there does. Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 2: It was actually pretty good.
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't really very active in the church and
Speaker 4: my family didn't really push it on me, so I
Speaker 4: knew very young I was gay, so I kind of
Speaker 4: distanced myself from the church and kind of did my
Speaker 4: own thing. So okay, but definitely growing up there, if
Speaker 4: you're gay, you're extra gay just to go against establishments.
Speaker 4: So we're very queer gay, you know, we're out there. Definitely.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of a common story with Mormon families, Like, well,
Speaker 1: if you're gay, that you kind of like really put
Speaker 1: it out there.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean mine didn't have anything to do with
Speaker 4: my family, had to do with the community, the Mormon
Speaker 4: community there, because, like I said, my family was accepting
Speaker 4: me being gay. But yeah, I mean I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people they either do or they don't. They
Speaker 4: live in.
Speaker 3: Sixty christy secrecy.
Speaker 4: I have a list. So if you're out, yes, definitely.
Speaker 3: So was it pretty comfortable for you in those times,
Speaker 3: those formative years?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Good times.
Speaker 2: What would you say, like, at what age did you did?
Speaker 2: I mean, like, did you tell your parents? Like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told my parents when it was going to
Speaker 4: come out eventually. I mean some of my family knew,
Speaker 4: and they when I asked them not to tell my parents,
Speaker 4: they were like, well, the cat's out of the bag.
Speaker 4: So I knew I needed to come out with it,
Speaker 4: and I was. I was prepared to do that anyway.
Speaker 4: So I came out to my mom when I was
Speaker 4: like I believe I was twenty. But to myself, I
Speaker 4: mean I was out to myself when I was Oh.
Speaker 4: I knew I was gay when I was in kindergarten
Speaker 4: so oh wow, really yeah, and I accepted it like
Speaker 4: when I was in your high okay, so and knew
Speaker 4: what it actually was.
Speaker 3: Were you were you practicing?
Speaker 4: I did practice towards the end of high school. But
Speaker 4: during high school I did have girlfriends and I didn't
Speaker 4: really do much sexually with them, but I knew I
Speaker 4: was gay, so you know, I didn't want to get
Speaker 4: too involved sexually with them. But they were more like girlfriends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like squirrelfriends.
Speaker 4: Girlfriends titty fucked.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yes, Oh you can say whatever you want, don't
Speaker 3: be afraid. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I was always really scared to touch my girlfriends in
Speaker 1: high school. You weren't, though, no, but I was.
Speaker 2: I always. I mean, titty fucking to me is just
Speaker 2: like silliness. It is to like the things that have
Speaker 2: no feeling for one person. I can't get into like
Speaker 2: what it's hot about it. God, I guess, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess a hand jot. It feels it feels good, like.
Speaker 4: Sliding in between.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like I just kind of think of
Speaker 2: like a woman bouncing and like the teds being smashed
Speaker 2: together to make some kind.
Speaker 3: Of I mean shit.
Speaker 1: As fans of Peter North, I feel like that was
Speaker 1: like a common thing we watched He titt fucked a
Speaker 1: lot of his co stars.
Speaker 2: That wasn't what I was. I've watched him actually.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but a lot of time his titty fucking
Speaker 1: scenes is what ended in those cum shots, if I
Speaker 1: remember correct.
Speaker 3: Speaking of were you a porn watcher during those days?
Speaker 4: Definitely?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What kind of porn did you watch?
Speaker 4: I mean gay porn worn? Yeah, like I loved Matthew
Speaker 4: Rush and Coleton Ford. I actually like porn was illegal
Speaker 4: in Utah and this was kind of before the Internet,
Speaker 4: so well, no, the internet what it was around, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't Were you born in the early eighties
Speaker 3: like we were.
Speaker 4: I was born in the seventies, what, daddy? Yeah, oh wow,
Speaker 4: seventy six.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you look so fucking good. Well done, an
Speaker 3: inspiration to us all like a fine wine. All right?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: Okay, So then, wow, I mean for somebody to be
Speaker 1: born in seventy six and know as early as kindergarten
Speaker 1: that you were gay, Like how did you even have
Speaker 1: the verbiage the you know what I mean? Like, how
Speaker 1: did you even know what that was?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 4: I didn't know what it was like when I was
Speaker 4: Like I said, when I was in kindergarten, I wanted
Speaker 4: to be friends with the cute boys. Okay, later in
Speaker 4: life I realized that was a crush, you know, but
Speaker 4: then it was just I wanted to be around them.
Speaker 4: I remember the first kid I ever had a crush on,
Speaker 4: and he had Michael Jackson parachute pants. Oh wow, So
Speaker 4: I wanted to go and get Michael Jackson parachute pants,
Speaker 4: and I did. Actually, the funny thing is it turns
Speaker 4: out that this guy was actually gay and way down
Speaker 4: later in life in high school, we actually did hook up,
Speaker 4: kind of hooked up, kind of hooked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember like a first hookup, like a
Speaker 2: first gay hookup.
Speaker 4: Yes, this, I mean, this is so gay. But the
Speaker 4: very first guy ever hooked up with. He lived south
Speaker 4: of Salt Lake City in a town called Provo where
Speaker 4: the b yu is and I met him through the
Speaker 4: Madonna Fan Club. And in the back of the Madonna
Speaker 4: Fan Club monthly publication there were ads for penpals, okay,
Speaker 4: and I saw that there was this guy that lived
Speaker 4: in Pleasant Grove, Utah. And I wrote to him and
Speaker 4: we exchanged letters back and forth, and then finally one
Speaker 4: day in my little Honda Civic, I drove down there
Speaker 4: and I met him and he was living with his
Speaker 4: boyfriend and his parents, and wow, he was you know.
Speaker 4: Of course, we talked about Madonna and then we gave
Speaker 4: each other hand jobs and blow jobs.
Speaker 1: And that was the extent of this so innocent an
Speaker 1: analog I let impals in the personal section of a
Speaker 1: Madonna fan club publication.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I do not hear stories like that much
Speaker 3: these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely from someone born in the seventies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so then were you Were you in Utah until you.
Speaker 2: Moved to La Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was in Utah until twenty okay, and I moved
Speaker 4: to La two. I was working for I was working
Speaker 4: for north Strom at the time, so I came here
Speaker 4: to work at the Grove to open the grove, and
Speaker 4: on my days off, I would go hang out at
Speaker 4: the abbey, and which was usually midweek, and back then
Speaker 4: the abbey was just a little coffee shop.
Speaker 2: And I wait, well, year was this? This is like
Speaker 2: sounds like I was.
Speaker 4: I met I met two thousand and two. Two thousand two, gotcha,
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 3: Thought he met like, yeah, I just love that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, thank you for clarifying. So I would go hang
Speaker 4: out there and I had a boyfriend at the time,
Speaker 4: and I would take his dog and I would just
Speaker 4: go and you know, drink lattes and get like pastries,
Speaker 4: and I would get approached by porn Scouts. They had
Speaker 4: that then, and they would come out and have you
Speaker 4: ever thought about doing porn? And would hand out their
Speaker 4: business cards, and I just kind of just started to like,
Speaker 4: you know, I started to think about it. I'm kind
Speaker 4: of a not kind of I am an exhibitionist, and
Speaker 4: you know, I loved porn stars back then, and so
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I want to do it. It
Speaker 4: took me about it took me eight years to actually
Speaker 4: do it, but I had all that time to you know,
Speaker 4: marinate on the idea.
Speaker 2: Eight years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I finally did porn in twenty ten. And like
Speaker 4: I said, this was two thousand and two.
Speaker 2: So yeah, shit, wow, yeah I remember I remember being
Speaker 2: a fan of yours, of yours stuff. Sure yeah wow.
Speaker 3: So okay, So if so, were you like kind of
Speaker 3: a twink or were you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, I've never been a twink. Actually, I was a swimmer.
Speaker 4: I swam in junior high, high school, and in college.
Speaker 4: I was had a thicker swimmer's body. But yeah, never
Speaker 4: been a twink. But I never really started working out until.
Speaker 2: Like more in a bodybuilding kind of yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, until I moved to LA in two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've always been pretty fit.
Speaker 2: You those Mormons have the best genes.
Speaker 3: Huh, Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what.
Speaker 4: People say, but like, I don't know. I guess it
Speaker 4: depends on what you like, just.
Speaker 2: The gay ones.
Speaker 1: Well, so let's so let's talk about this journey like
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. Yeah, you were you finally decided you
Speaker 1: were going to give it a shot. Yeah, what was
Speaker 1: your first I reached.
Speaker 4: Out to Chi Chi LaRue, Okay, and she was actually
Speaker 4: coming to Salt Lake City to DJ, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 4: let's meet up. Come by my hotel. There's a Starbucks
Speaker 4: in the lobby and we can talk about things. And
Speaker 4: I went and I met her and she asked about
Speaker 4: my name, like what are you thinking about doing? And
Speaker 4: how serious I argue about doing this, and you know,
Speaker 4: we talked and everything and she liked me, and a
Speaker 4: few weeks later she flew me out to LA because
Speaker 4: I was actually living in Saltlake when I started, so
Speaker 4: she flew me out to LA and I did. My
Speaker 4: first movie was Playing with Fire, which had Matthew Rush
Speaker 4: in it, which was pretty intimidating for me, and Johnny
Speaker 4: Hazard and oh geez, I can't even remember who else
Speaker 4: but it was an orgy and a fire truck. So yeah,
Speaker 4: the fire truck, I think, so yeah, yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 4: was it was fun. It was crazy. You know, she
Speaker 4: was sitting there like screaming, landing suck his cock and
Speaker 4: you know, just screaming.
Speaker 3: Like what to do.
Speaker 4: And I was just like, holy shit, like I had
Speaker 4: this out of body experience. I'm like, it's just really
Speaker 4: my life right now. Like it was very liberating, scary,
Speaker 4: of course, wild as fuck, but fun, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I had I didn't have a
Speaker 2: feeling like that on a porn set. I had a
Speaker 2: feeling like that when I was shooting something with Raheem
Speaker 2: and he had like organized something for me to top
Speaker 2: this guy I don't even remember who it was, like,
Speaker 2: I don't think he does it anymore. But I remember
Speaker 2: sitting around like we filmed for like an hour and
Speaker 2: then it was like we were waiting for things to
Speaker 2: transfer and like air drop or something, and it took
Speaker 2: a lot longer than and I remember just standing there.
Speaker 2: I'm like naked, everybody's naked, and we're like sitting around
Speaker 2: with these fucking iPads and iPhones and shit, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 3: Yes, it is crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, and I drove home and
Speaker 2: I just felt like all this anxiety and then I
Speaker 2: like and then I forgot about it and like that
Speaker 2: seems similar to what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, it's for a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are listening at home who know who Sheishi LaRue
Speaker 1: is who is a drag personality who also directs porn
Speaker 1: and and DJs. You know, it's interesting working. I'm considering
Speaker 1: that she was your first scene and it was a group.
Speaker 1: The way she she directs is she pretty much cheer
Speaker 1: leads the entire way through, like she's kind she kind
Speaker 1: of like almost narrates what she wants you to be doing,
Speaker 1: which makes it very hard for the editors and sound people.
Speaker 1: Like after I heard that, after a few years of that,
Speaker 1: they started asking her to not be in the room
Speaker 1: right and she she would pretty much say what she
Speaker 1: wanted and then leave the room because the editors were like,
Speaker 1: we cannot do this anymore. So did you feel like
Speaker 1: when you film that scene that like this is what
Speaker 1: porn is like?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean I worked, you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't work with a whole lot of different directors At
Speaker 4: first my pretty much my whole studio career, I was
Speaker 4: with Falcon and Raging Stallion.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 4: After I did the shoot with Channel one Chi Chi,
Speaker 4: I was signed with Falcon right after.
Speaker 3: That, Okay, and so I only really worked.
Speaker 4: With Steve Cruz and you know the directors there, and
Speaker 4: you know, they kind of have the same style, not
Speaker 4: maybe so much the yelling and everything.
Speaker 3: But yeah, very well lit studio. H Grista. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So between twenty ten and for like the bulk of
Speaker 1: your early career, you were mostly with Falcon Aging Side.
Speaker 4: I was with Falcon and Raging Stallion and then until
Speaker 4: like I believe twenty fourteen, and then I was a
Speaker 4: free agent after that and I worked quite a bit
Speaker 4: with Men dot Com and you know whatever other random studios,
Speaker 4: and then about like twenty fifteen, I went back for
Speaker 4: about a year and was exclusive with Falcon again, and
Speaker 4: then I ended that same Yearror.
Speaker 1: So you ended around twenty fifteen. Yeah, before that was
Speaker 1: when your hiatus began. Yeah cool, Okay, Well, before we
Speaker 1: get into that, tell us a little bit about your
Speaker 1: memory about that era of porn, in that style of
Speaker 1: creating porn. Are they good memories?
Speaker 3: Bad? Memories.
Speaker 4: I mean they're great memories. Like I always had a
Speaker 4: good time, and working with Falcon was like back then,
Speaker 4: it was kind of like your you know, we made
Speaker 4: used to make jokes. It was like your porn family. Yes,
Speaker 4: we were all very close. The other exclusives didn't really
Speaker 4: like me at.
Speaker 3: First, But why is that You think they're jealous?
Speaker 4: They were, they were, I mean I was. I was
Speaker 4: taught for a while and they didn't like it, you know,
Speaker 4: but I ended up becoming really good friends with a
Speaker 4: few of them who are no longer here, unfortunately, But.
Speaker 2: It was it was great.
Speaker 4: I moved to La twenty ten, and so then I
Speaker 4: was always flying to San Francisco to film because that's
Speaker 4: where they did it then, and it was a great
Speaker 4: escape from La I love San Francisco. It's like, you know,
Speaker 4: definitely got break from here, and it was like little vacations,
Speaker 4: you know. Yes, it actually kind of almost became like
Speaker 4: a second home to me because I was up there
Speaker 4: like at least twice a month. And yeah, it was
Speaker 4: it was fun. I liked it, like it was a
Speaker 4: lot of fun. But I knew that, you know, I
Speaker 4: was just going to end when it no longer was fun,
Speaker 4: and you know, I kind of got to the point
Speaker 4: where I'm like over it, like you know, we all do,
Speaker 4: and I decided I didn't want to do it anymore,
Speaker 4: and I left and I I'm back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's weird though. I guess when it was only
Speaker 2: a studio world for like porn, it was kind of
Speaker 2: easy to just start saying no to jobs. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: but like when you have only fans now in the mix, Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: how do you just like stop doing only fans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if it's your main gig.
Speaker 2: But I just I feel like I feel like for me,
Speaker 2: it would be hard to just like get rid.
Speaker 1: Of well, if it's your main gig especially Yeah, definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was kind of when I started. I started
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, and actually, you are story it's really
Speaker 1: actually quite formative for me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember those joys.
Speaker 4: I definitely remember.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to throw this picture up on the screen
Speaker 1: real quick. If you guys are big raging styling people,
Speaker 1: this is a picture of our project together called cock
Speaker 1: Fight Direct posting very hot. That was, I mean, that
Speaker 1: was I think so well, you certainly want awards, so
Speaker 1: this is what happened for everybody who doesn't know Cockfight
Speaker 1: is was this project we did where it was the
Speaker 1: first time they did something that was like really interactive
Speaker 1: with the audience. Chris Ward, who was the president of
Speaker 1: Racing Stallion at the time, he picked his three favorite performers,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. That's me, Land and Conrad and
Speaker 1: then the dearly departed Sean Wolfe on the right, who
Speaker 1: was lovely, and he basically had us do three scenes
Speaker 1: where we each had like a match. It started as
Speaker 1: like a like a boxing fight, wrestling fight sort of
Speaker 1: that turned into us fucking and then the last scene
Speaker 1: was a three way and then the audience had to
Speaker 1: vote for their favorite and their favorite would win.
Speaker 3: A cash prize. Mister Conrad over here was the winner, deservedly.
Speaker 4: Remember you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah you won. Yeah you were the winner.
Speaker 4: And m's not been very much because I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, so let me tell you that there was
Speaker 2: a cash prize and then they never have had.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't mind, I'm going to share
Speaker 1: with you my experience as someone who was kind of
Speaker 1: new to the industry.
Speaker 3: I had barely been in a year, and I was
Speaker 3: very intimidated. You were so beautiful, and you were.
Speaker 1: Established, and we were actually on a plane together to
Speaker 1: get there, yes, and I remember being like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's him.
Speaker 3: What should I do? Should I say hello? And like
Speaker 3: you were so nice.
Speaker 1: You were so kind to me, and I was kind
Speaker 1: of like, well, I'm really hungry, but I think we're
Speaker 1: filming tomorrow and I don't know, and you were like, bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm a get a pizza because I'm gonna eat what
Speaker 1: I want and you should do the same. You like
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me to ask for what I need.
Speaker 1: You were so nice to me. There was kind of
Speaker 1: an air about you. You were sort of like, let's
Speaker 1: just get through this. And you actually taught me about trimix.
Speaker 1: You were the first one to share it with me.
Speaker 1: You were so giving, so kind. It made that week
Speaker 1: go really smoothly. And I was going through a lot
Speaker 1: that week too, like I had just like donated sperm
Speaker 1: to my lesbian sister and her wife. I was about
Speaker 1: to move to San Francisco, so it was kind of
Speaker 1: a stressful week, but you made it really really easy,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to say I really appreciated that.
Speaker 1: It always stuck with me.
Speaker 3: Thank you. So yeah, thank you for making that such
Speaker 3: a good week and a really really hot scene.
Speaker 2: It was because I moved to la and to that
Speaker 2: and six I didn't realize that you moved after me.
Speaker 2: So in twenty ten, and then I started seeing you
Speaker 2: around like I saw you I used to see yeah,
Speaker 2: because I was working there, Like there was.
Speaker 4: A little like there was a crush between.
Speaker 2: I definitely had a crush on you, but I felt
Speaker 2: like I never got anything back for I felt like
Speaker 2: I was, yeah, he's hard to read, I know. I
Speaker 2: was like I was like, I was like anytime I
Speaker 2: saw you, you were always with like the same two guys,
Speaker 2: like two or three guys, and I that like I
Speaker 2: wasn't really friends with them, but I was like I
Speaker 2: just had I always felt like he was like protected
Speaker 2: by this like shield of his friends also, so it
Speaker 2: was hard to get and it was just like I
Speaker 2: think we chatted on grinder once and nothing ever happened.
Speaker 2: So but then in the last couple of years when
Speaker 2: you started your only fans, and I don't know, I
Speaker 2: think you reached out to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah you were. I was like, you were the first one.
Speaker 2: I was the f I was your first only fans clad.
Speaker 2: We titled it Daddy Versus Daddy, and like, like, I
Speaker 2: don't I think that's I think that's done the best
Speaker 2: of any scene I've ever done on Really. Yeah, people
Speaker 2: like love that one. Yeah, I'm gonna re release.
Speaker 1: It because you guys are killing killing the Salt and
Speaker 1: Pepper game for sure. No, but back then you did,
Speaker 1: you had it, You had that like late two thousands,
Speaker 1: quaff you had my.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it was great.
Speaker 1: Well, first I want to, like just give it a
Speaker 1: quick because I want to I want to get into
Speaker 1: the later part of the land in conradt Forreer. So
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Speaker 1: Backland Conrad, Thanks Popstar. Okay, so that was twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: which means you were still kind of in your exclusive
Speaker 1: with Raging Stallient falcon Era in twenty fifteen. That was
Speaker 1: sort of when you decided to exit the industry. Walk
Speaker 1: me through that process. What was reasoning?
Speaker 4: I mean there was it was really no process. I like,
Speaker 4: I kind of just had grown tired of doing it.
Speaker 4: And you know, I I won some award, like one
Speaker 4: of the best awards to win I won. I can't
Speaker 4: remember what the expert or.
Speaker 2: Like Performer of the Year, Gay Performer of the Air.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a cool cat right here. Y'all doesn't
Speaker 3: even remember the awards.
Speaker 4: Well, so anyway I wanted. I won some award. It
Speaker 4: was downtown, and I don't know, I just was kind
Speaker 4: of like over it. I didn't really want I'm like,
Speaker 4: I've gone as far as I can go.
Speaker 3: Like I did it.
Speaker 4: I fucked everyone I wanted to fuck, and I was done,
Speaker 4: and so I just decided, you know, I was done.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: There was no process or anything.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about when you decided to
Speaker 2: because you did like a naked sword thing.
Speaker 4: Well I did that.
Speaker 2: That was like the faster you started your Only Fans.
Speaker 4: Then I actually filmed that before I started Only Fans. Okay,
Speaker 4: I think that was twenty twenty three, the end of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was that the one in Mexico?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I read it was twenty two actually because I just
Speaker 3: read an article about it. So was that that was
Speaker 3: your re entry into the Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. They had reached out to me and I
Speaker 4: was kind of already planning on doing the Only Fans,
Speaker 4: but I don't know, I'm a procrastinator really bad, and
Speaker 4: so I was like, i'll do it, I'll do it,
Speaker 4: and that kind of like got me going again.
Speaker 3: And you know, did you enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great. I love Mexico City. It's one
Speaker 4: of my favorite cities. And I got to, you know,
Speaker 4: go down there and film with a really cute guy
Speaker 4: and it was fun.
Speaker 2: I remember we were talking about it another time that
Speaker 2: we filmed something, and I remember you saying you were like,
Speaker 2: kind of a little disappointed with with how little they,
Speaker 2: like you thought they would make a bigger deal out
Speaker 2: of it, oh.
Speaker 3: About his return to the industry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, yeah, I would have thought
Speaker 2: so too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a little bit they they made the
Speaker 4: big focus of the scene about this kid revealing his face,
Speaker 4: which kind of fucking pissed me off because I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm doing this scene. I'm not you know. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I had other people that wanted to do my first one,
Speaker 4: and I chose to go with them, And you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be shady or anything, but I
Speaker 4: was a little pissed off about that, and you know,
Speaker 4: and I don't really know how the scene went, and
Speaker 4: I don't really recall him exposing his face really anyone
Speaker 4: fucking caring about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, you know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: The fanfare around that scene was more about him than
Speaker 1: it was about you exactly exactly. Well, that might have
Speaker 1: been falcons call, but I will say like, there were
Speaker 1: definitely articles on the blogs that were sort of touting
Speaker 1: your return to the industry, and like, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, a lot of the comments
Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, icon, like he's one of
Speaker 1: my favorites.
Speaker 3: Finally he's back.
Speaker 4: Well I kind of enjoyed with the idea for a while,
Speaker 4: Like so people kind of probably were like, not really, Oh,
Speaker 4: here Landon is again talking that he's going to return.
Speaker 4: I multiple times tweeted that I was going to come back,
Speaker 4: and then I would go by and I don't. And
Speaker 4: I still am kind of like in that same mind set, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, I say as busy as I want to.
Speaker 3: Say, Yeah, so are you pretty active?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, not really. I need to be more active, but.
Speaker 3: I say that every goddamn day.
Speaker 4: Yeah I I you know, I honestly, I didn't realize
Speaker 4: how much work it was going to be. And you know,
Speaker 4: people are very you know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 4: that can cancel and a lot that goes into it
Speaker 4: that I, you know, didn't know. And you really have
Speaker 4: to social media now, you know, prior to when I was,
Speaker 4: you know, starting porn. You really got to put a
Speaker 4: lot into it.
Speaker 1: And so when you say the work, how much work
Speaker 1: it is, you're speaking specifically on the upkeep of the
Speaker 1: contest site.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, filming it and promoting ites like I mean,
Speaker 4: I didn't have to do ship when you know, I
Speaker 4: was with a studio. And also like my social media,
Speaker 4: you didn't have to post every fucking day like you
Speaker 4: could post. I mean I hardly posted it all and
Speaker 4: I had, you know, a very big following. Now it's
Speaker 4: like you got to you got to put something out
Speaker 4: all the time, and that it's not it's not really me.
Speaker 4: I'm not really a big social media person. So that
Speaker 4: is like, you know, where I'm kind of learning and
Speaker 4: I guess kind of struggling even with getting it all
Speaker 4: going and maintaining it.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like your fan base is still pretty
Speaker 3: present and supportive like.
Speaker 4: Some definitely yes, yeah, but I feel like I've changed,
Speaker 4: you know, my look is definitely different, but I think
Speaker 4: the majority, you know, they are the same group, and
Speaker 4: you know, I have a certain brand I guess that
Speaker 4: I'm maintaining and so yeah, but I definitely have a
Speaker 4: lot of newer fans, Like there was just the other
Speaker 4: day and some kid like recognized me and he was
Speaker 4: really young, and I was like, oh my god, like
Speaker 4: I would not expect this young, you know, like I
Speaker 4: don't know if he was like a teenager in his
Speaker 4: early twenties, but I would not have expected him to watch.
Speaker 1: My stuff, did you get my My favorite is when
Speaker 1: people come up to me and tell me they've been
Speaker 1: watching me since they were a kid.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, have you heard those?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yes I heard that. When I was
Speaker 4: in high school. You helped me overcome my fear of
Speaker 4: being gay, And yes, I get that a lot. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh glad, I can help a lot. But
Speaker 4: now a lot of them are like really hot, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, need any more help?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and that's why I'm speaking of the
Speaker 1: D word you mentioned, Like, are you are you into
Speaker 1: being called daddy?
Speaker 3: Does that something that you like or dislike?
Speaker 4: I don't mind it, you know, it depends on who
Speaker 4: is who is from. I don't mind it. I don't
Speaker 4: like every little young, you know, guy running up and
Speaker 4: saying hey, daddy, daddy, daddy.
Speaker 2: But you know, I.
Speaker 3: Just like running bouncing up and down, you know, it
Speaker 3: was It's like, oh god.
Speaker 4: Daddy wasn't really that big of a thing back when
Speaker 4: I was starting porn. It's it's kind of a newer thing.
Speaker 3: I feel.
Speaker 4: It's very I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I mean, I'm going
Speaker 4: to run with it. You know, like one day I'll
Speaker 4: be wishing I wasn't this young I am right now,
Speaker 4: So I'm you know, I'm down, Like, call.
Speaker 3: Me daddy, you know, call me daddy. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I ran into somebody this past week at Hot Dog
Speaker 1: who was talking about how when they were younger, they
Speaker 1: were mean to older gay men, and I was like,
Speaker 1: how does that make you feel?
Speaker 3: To say out loud, like that's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: There's still no there is still I did that podcast
Speaker 2: with those guys, the Wild Boys, okay, and oh my god,
Speaker 2: like people are still commenting on on the reels and
Speaker 2: stuff that clips of that podcast, and they're like they
Speaker 2: have some mean ass young fans that are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: too old that like like shit like that that I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh huh, that's mean.
Speaker 1: I thankfully haven't reached that part yet where people are
Speaker 1: negatively commenting on my age or my.
Speaker 2: Or they're talking about well, I remember that happened with
Speaker 2: when I when I collabed with Timothy Champagne, what happened
Speaker 2: was was more of like the ageist like his fans
Speaker 2: why yeah, like what like the comments on the post
Speaker 2: that it was like us kissing, like a picture of
Speaker 2: us kissing. They're like, why do you Why don't you
Speaker 2: film with guys that are as attractive as you and
Speaker 2: as young as you? Like, why are you hanging? Why
Speaker 2: are you filming with these old guys?
Speaker 1: You know what, I almost wonder if it's older guys
Speaker 1: who are making that those comments, because I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of the younger, the younger ones are super
Speaker 1: into what we're offering right now, which I'm very grateful
Speaker 1: to be living in this time.
Speaker 2: You know. I just think the people that are your
Speaker 2: fans say a lot about you. The things that your
Speaker 2: fans comment sure say a lot about what kind of
Speaker 2: person you are. That shade shade boy.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Well what was your hiatus? Like, what did
Speaker 1: you do during those seven or so years?
Speaker 4: Traveled the world?
Speaker 3: Oh that's okay.
Speaker 4: I traveled a lot. I worked on did a little
Speaker 4: inturn design. I was being part time in Palm Springs.
Speaker 3: Is that you're what you do? Are you an interior designer?
Speaker 4: I try, I try, but but yeah, that's that's it.
Speaker 4: Like I was just living life and having a good
Speaker 4: time and did you miss doo porn? I don't know
Speaker 4: if I missed it, but I felt like, you know,
Speaker 4: with the explosion of OnlyFans, I kind of felt like
Speaker 4: I was missing an opportunity. I'm like, Okay, fuck, now
Speaker 4: all these guys are like, finally the studios aren't taking
Speaker 4: advantage of the performers. Now the performers are actually making
Speaker 4: the money. And I was like, fuck, I want to
Speaker 4: get a piece of that. And so I kind of
Speaker 4: I kind of waited a little too long to actually
Speaker 4: do it. But that's kind of like where I was at.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I want to, you know,
Speaker 4: make a little extra money and you know, do it again.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think I missed it, but all those
Speaker 4: kind of fun things that you got to do with
Speaker 4: studio work, you don't really well, I don't do so
Speaker 4: much with OnlyFans, and that that part of it I
Speaker 4: do miss But you know, that's not really how even
Speaker 4: studios work now. They don't have the budget studio things.
Speaker 2: Now, they don't do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different time for sure.
Speaker 2: Well what they do if if they travel to a
Speaker 2: location and if like Falcon goes and shoots stuff in
Speaker 2: Spain around the Grabby is like they have for the
Speaker 2: last four years, they hire talent there. They don't bring
Speaker 2: talent from over here. Yeah, they never even as an exclusive.
Speaker 2: They never took me any.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure the revenue was very different. Like Landon
Speaker 1: and I were part of the last years of DVD
Speaker 1: you know, sales. I mean that was probably that was huge.
Speaker 1: That was when studios were making handover fist money and
Speaker 1: treating their stars like stars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was different. Have you been enjoying kind of
Speaker 3: taking control of the creation process? So are you like this?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I definitely think that having that studio background,
Speaker 4: I feel like I am with some of my scenes.
Speaker 4: I think I am a little more creative with and
Speaker 4: I'm doing a little bit of both, like some you know,
Speaker 4: can just be you know, let's fuck, and then some
Speaker 4: like oh, you know, let's try to make a cool
Speaker 4: little scene and have a little bit of b roll.
Speaker 4: I mean it definitely, I do like being in control
Speaker 4: of my content, the way I look who I'm filming with,
Speaker 4: choosing I'm and I was always able to somewhat control
Speaker 4: that when I was with studios, But now I you know,
Speaker 4: everyone that I work with, I have chosen them. Who
Speaker 4: I work with now is definitely a lot more eclectic
Speaker 4: than when I was with the studios, just because that's
Speaker 4: the way I personally prefer it, and that's also more
Speaker 4: the way the industry is.
Speaker 2: And you probably have a different taste now that you're
Speaker 2: older than you were. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like I know,
Speaker 2: I know I would find guys attractive now that I
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our tastes develop, especially if we allow them to,
Speaker 1: is what I always say. You have to be open
Speaker 1: to developing different tastes. You know, when I was in
Speaker 1: my early twenties, I was like, give me white muscle men,
Speaker 1: white guys who treat me special. Now it's very different.
Speaker 1: I like some diversity. I can't believe the only diversity
Speaker 1: in the room. Do you I'm curious if you don't
Speaker 1: mind telling some stories, I like kind of having a
Speaker 1: segment like this. Do you have a memory of a
Speaker 1: scene that was like, oh my god, this is amazing,
Speaker 1: like maybe a bucket list co star, or like a
Speaker 1: scene where like you were just like so happy to
Speaker 1: be doing this, and then also a scene where you
Speaker 1: were like, God, this is so much hard work and
Speaker 1: I hate it, or yeah, tell us a couple of stories.
Speaker 4: I mean, one of my favorite scenes was when I
Speaker 4: would shoot with Jessearez. Oh yeah, we kind of had
Speaker 4: a little bit of a flirtation, and I was at
Speaker 4: Falcon when he was filming for it with Titan, And
Speaker 4: as soon as Tightan he got out of his Tighten contract,
Speaker 4: I told the guys that Falcon, I'm like, get him.
Speaker 4: I want to work with him. So they did, and
Speaker 4: we did a scene and it was okay, and you know,
Speaker 4: he's a beautiful guy, and I was so into him,
Speaker 4: but you know, I'm a shy I'm shy, and nothing
Speaker 4: really happened, and then we ended up Lucas actually hired
Speaker 4: us both to go shoot on Fire Island the Other
Speaker 4: Side of Firearm, which is a series of movies and
Speaker 4: extent of a series of scenes that I used to
Speaker 4: be a fan of back in the day. So I
Speaker 4: was really excited. I'm like, cool, that would be fun.
Speaker 4: So we were staying at I believe it's called the
Speaker 4: Palace on Fire Island, and when we got there. The
Speaker 4: crew was up in Toronto filming and they were up
Speaker 4: there for Pride, Toronto Pride. So Jesse and I were
Speaker 4: at this hotel pretty much all by ourselves for a
Speaker 4: couple of days, and they got stuck up there like
Speaker 4: there was like weather issues, like rain or something. So
Speaker 4: we were stuck at this hotel by ourselves for a
Speaker 4: couple of days, running around completely naked, just fucking everywhere.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was really magic.
Speaker 4: It was it was and you know, yeah, and so
Speaker 4: that it was a lot of fun. And then when
Speaker 4: we finally filmed the scene, you know, Adam Killian was
Speaker 4: the director of it, and he was just like, you guys,
Speaker 4: you know, obviously you guys have been having fun while
Speaker 4: we've been you know, up in Toronto, So why don't
Speaker 4: you guys just kind of do what you want to
Speaker 4: do and I will just film.
Speaker 3: It the best.
Speaker 4: And I mean it was it was real, like it
Speaker 4: was completely one hundred percent real, really hot, you know, fucking.
Speaker 3: Wow. I love stories like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, and like, you know, as for like bad scenes,
Speaker 4: you know, I never really had anything that was too
Speaker 4: horrible except this is a little this might be a
Speaker 4: little gross tell us I did. I did do a scene.
Speaker 4: I believe this was. I want to say it was
Speaker 4: with Chichi LaRue again, but later it was with these
Speaker 4: two twins and actual twins, yeah, identical twins. One was gay,
Speaker 4: one was straight, and uh, you know, we're getting into
Speaker 4: the scene, and you know, they didn't want to touch
Speaker 4: each other and it was kind of awkward, and so
Speaker 4: I kind of make them touch each other, like I
Speaker 4: rub their dicks together and everything, and they'd act all
Speaker 4: disgusted and whatnot. But the straight one I was topping
Speaker 4: them both, and the straight one he I was laying
Speaker 4: on the table and he was bouncing up and down
Speaker 4: on my dick, and when he lifted up, a pile
Speaker 4: of ship all over, all over my stomach and all
Speaker 4: over my dick and everything. My god, and it wasn't
Speaker 4: just like dirty water. It was like chunky money, like chunks,
Speaker 4: and he got all he got all mad at me
Speaker 4: because I told him, I was like, dude, what the
Speaker 4: fuck did you even bother cleaning out? And he's he
Speaker 4: responds with like, you know, dude, I'm not gay. I
Speaker 4: don't fucking know these things. And I'm like, well, you're
Speaker 4: fucking doing gay porn. Also, if you you just fine,
Speaker 4: you don't have to be gay to do gay porn,
Speaker 4: but if you are going to do it, you need
Speaker 4: to know how.
Speaker 2: To protocols as your brother.
Speaker 4: So anyway, he cleaned out and uh he came back
Speaker 4: again and it was the same situation.
Speaker 1: And which, by the way, I feel for a person
Speaker 1: who goes like that that much speak, he's so devastating.
Speaker 3: To hit him, well both of you, but like imagine
Speaker 3: being him.
Speaker 2: Too, like that that's a really that's an embarrassing that's I.
Speaker 4: Mean, ship happened, but I think he didn't make any
Speaker 4: attempt at all. You know, like if it's just a
Speaker 4: little bit of water, that's fine, but when it's like,
Speaker 4: you know everything you ate the last two days on
Speaker 4: my chest.
Speaker 3: Oh god, sorry everyone, you just heard all that.
Speaker 2: Jizing.
Speaker 1: Yeah for everybody, damn, wow, I didn't know they like
Speaker 1: I guess they do have like actual brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I hate it on a studio thing
Speaker 2: where you're like where it's just not an they don't
Speaker 2: have like a shower hose. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for you it's like you.
Speaker 1: Got it or like just the bat that's most most studios, though,
Speaker 1: they don't provide showered shots.
Speaker 2: I mean, like if you're yeah, they don't. Sometimes they do,
Speaker 2: and I'd always be like okay, and I would always
Speaker 2: bring my bulb or sometimes I would bring like.
Speaker 4: If possible, you should arrive Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: Sometimes your call time is so fucking early, you're like
Speaker 2: what the fuck. I'm like, my body doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: My body doesn't want to get rid of everything until
Speaker 2: like eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like if I have like at nine am call time,
Speaker 2: things look great until eleven. Yeah. Like so like usually
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, broll, well, we can do pictures and
Speaker 2: burol and stuff, but it's not shooting sex until after noon.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to clean out again. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't care how much I did at six am.
Speaker 3: It sounds like he just should not have been cast.
Speaker 3: Like was this an icon Mail shoot? It sounds like
Speaker 3: an icon Mail shoot.
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure. Yeah, I'm not sure, but I,
Speaker 4: like I said, I think chi Chi was the director,
Speaker 4: so it might have been Channel one or maybe she
Speaker 4: was filming for Balcon. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Wowsers. Yeah, that's that's that's a bad one.
Speaker 4: That's and you know it was his first time, so
Speaker 4: I'm sure he probably.
Speaker 3: Got better if he did it again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he was too traumatized. Yeah, I almost was.
Speaker 1: So I've had a couple of scenes with guys who
Speaker 1: that was definitely their last scene, you know what I mean. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: where like it just wasn't a great scene, and you
Speaker 1: could tell they were just like really dejected and defeated
Speaker 1: and were like, maybe this is just not for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not for everyone, y'all. It is not for everyone.
Speaker 1: So what's the future of land and Conrad? What?
Speaker 3: How? How are you still still doing it? Still feeling it?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean I'm doing uh, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm filming my only fans. I'm still kind of in
Speaker 4: the process of doing my just for fans.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And like I said, I say, as busy as I
Speaker 4: want to say, I don't plan on doing it for
Speaker 4: really too much longer. I'm going to be fifty here shortly,
Speaker 4: wow years, and I do not want to be doing
Speaker 4: this shit. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course,
Speaker 4: And who knows now that I just said that, I'll
Speaker 4: probably end up doing it longer, but you know, as
Speaker 4: long as people are wanting it, you know, I guess
Speaker 4: I will do it and as long as I'm having
Speaker 4: fun with it, just living life and having fun. I
Speaker 4: guess I don't know.
Speaker 3: It looks good on you. I mean, as consumers of porn,
Speaker 3: we're certainly happy to have you back. Agree. Has it
Speaker 3: been pretty lucrative the only fans situation, I mean, it.
Speaker 4: Has been okay, it's been okay. It hasn't been anything.
Speaker 2: I think it's Yeah, only fans is not quite. I
Speaker 2: don't think we'll ever reach the boom that had pandemic.
Speaker 2: I'm sure people that start and like have something special
Speaker 2: about them. I think that they can kind of milk
Speaker 2: that for about a year, I think, before it starts
Speaker 2: to go into decline, right, you know, because there are
Speaker 2: always new people coming through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I haven't really put a lot
Speaker 4: of work into it, and I feel how much you
Speaker 4: put into it definitely determines on your outcome, pay and everything.
Speaker 4: So I feel like I need to probably work harder
Speaker 4: at it, and you know, maybe I will. You know,
Speaker 4: it's fun right now. I'm enjoying it to an extent,
Speaker 4: and you know that's.
Speaker 2: Have you guys filmed anything for only films we have?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You were like one of the first ones I did.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that scene.
Speaker 1: I actually it's one of my favorite scenes because I
Speaker 1: don't know if you did this on purpose, but your
Speaker 1: bedroom is very like you have a very very dark
Speaker 1: colored aesthetic. Yeah, so to have like a light, you know,
Speaker 1: the film with like a camera light, like I feel
Speaker 1: like we were like it felt like a raging stallion
Speaker 1: scene because you.
Speaker 3: Know, we were just so beautifully lit in your bedroom.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look for that on our content sites, y'all. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3: It was a lovely reunion.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Later I came, I came after you.
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, was that surprising?
Speaker 4: No, I I remember, I remember I liked our scene
Speaker 4: that we had done, and so I wanted to, you know,
Speaker 4: work with you again.
Speaker 3: You guys have right, Yes, we have.
Speaker 2: We have.
Speaker 3: Your first.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and we've done and we've done in one
Speaker 4: since we had a group. Yeah, we've done three three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we need to do one. I want to
Speaker 2: do one in your place. Was now that I hear
Speaker 2: about the last? Yeah, do you still have that place?
Speaker 3: Yes? Do you like doing group scenes?
Speaker 4: I don't like doing gang bangs unless he's the one.
Speaker 4: I have never been gang banks, but I do I
Speaker 4: do you know? If if one person is going to
Speaker 4: be getting an attention, I do want it to be me.
Speaker 4: But I haven't done a whole lot of orgy scenes.
Speaker 4: I like them in real life and I like them
Speaker 4: in scenes, but I don't like too many guys. Like
Speaker 4: everything that there's too many guys. It's just too much.
Speaker 4: So like you know, four or five?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, hell, let's make the Land and Conrad
Speaker 1: gang Bang Happend deserve all the attention. Casting begins tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Everyone cool.
Speaker 3: That's it for me. Do you have any anything else
Speaker 3: you want to add? Do you have anything you want
Speaker 3: to add? Mister Conrad?
Speaker 4: Nope? Okay, subscribed to my only fans, Yes, Land and Conrad.
Speaker 3: Land and Conrad Cool. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4: I'm so glad.
Speaker 3: I hope was this good? Did you have fun? I did?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 2: All right? Good?
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I'm Adam Ramsey, I'm cold. Connor has been.
Speaker 3: Sorry for asking, see you next time.
Speaker 2: Bye. This has been sorry for asking.
Speaker 1: Be sure to like, comment and subscribe, and until next time,
Speaker 1: stay sexy.