WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:08.039 You're listening to. Sorry for asking, Sorry for asking. I'm 2 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:12.000 Cold Connor and I'm Adam Ramsey. This is where we talk, shop, 3 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:13.599 ask questions. 4 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:15.880 Tell stories, and laugh some laughs about. 5 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:18.679 Being creators as well as consumers of adult content. 6 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:20.000 He love watching too. 7 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.839 We certainly do. We also discussed the impact adult films 8 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.839 have had on us, on our guests, and on the 9 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:31.640 LGBTQ community. So strap on and strap in. 10 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:35.240 And here we go. 11 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.560 Hello, what is he? 12 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:45.840 Oh my gosh, Hi col'connor. 13 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:47.840 Hi Adam Ramsey. 14 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.799 Hi. Yes, that's right. I am Adam Ramsey and I'm 15 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.560 Cold Connor. And this is sorry for asking. Jump the 16 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:55.479 gun on that a little bit. 17 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:56.000 I don't care. 18 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:56.359 Hi. 19 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:57.000 How you doing? 20 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.159 I'm okay, you're okay. Yeah, I'm a little bummed. I 21 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.799 was working out on Friday and I was almost done 22 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.640 and I went to do a little bicep curl. Yes, 23 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:09.239 and I definitely popped something. 24 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:10.079 You popped something. 25 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:12.879 I definitely definitely tore something. 26 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:14.840 From a bicep curl. 27 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.200 Yeah, I mean I did something a few months ago 28 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.599 and I guess I've been being careful with it, but 29 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.719 I thought it had felt better. And yeah, I heard 30 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:28.439 the oh God, and was like yeah, and now there's 31 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:29.799 like a little bruising. 32 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:31.079 Do you stretch much? 33 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:35.239 Yeah? I do. I do all this mobility ship and 34 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.439 it's like I think I just have put my body 35 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:40.359 through it so many times, so much over the years 36 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:45.040 training and right, yeah, well you look lovely fresh. Well 37 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.920 I called I made an appointment with the same surgeon 38 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:49.200 that did my hamstrings. 39 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:50.959 Wow, it's like that bad like you need. 40 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:54.000 Yeah, it's going to take a surgeon. It's like it's 41 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.760 not oh yeah, I see it looks like it's not attached. 42 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.560 So oh god, Like I mean it's attached it like 43 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:00.359 the end side. 44 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:01.280 Are you in pain? 45 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:02.000 No? 46 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.239 Not, so, I mean it felt it's only it has 47 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.200 almost been a week, so I mean like it just 48 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.280 feels you know, it'll feel weaker and yeah, it feel 49 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:11.719 like like. 50 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:13.680 You hear that everybody having muscles, you know, in a 51 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:14.080 walk in. 52 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:18.879 The park training is just fucking I mean, what the fuck? 53 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:22.479 But I pro I told myself with the hamstrings because 54 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.360 I put those off so that I could work and 55 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:29.280 do you know, do scenes studio stuff, and like didn't 56 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:32.360 really help me out to push it off. So I'm like, 57 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:36.080 take care of your body first, Like body first, everything 58 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.879 else later. Yeah, like you got to like make sure 59 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:44.000 that the body is working, so take care of you. Yeah. So, 60 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.400 I don't know I'm gonna I don't know what I'll do. 61 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:48.639 I won't be able to give massages for like six weeks. 62 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:52.120 No, maybe maybe this time you can get massages for 63 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:52.599 a little bit. 64 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:54.560 Yeah, you deserve it, but I need to make the 65 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:59.960 money totally. Yes, that will be the problem anyway. There 66 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.039 that yes, But let's get to our guests. 67 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.400 Okay, all right, Yeah, I'm very excited about today's guests. 68 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:08.560 It's very excited. I've been wanting to have this person 69 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:10.840 on for a while. I have so many questions. We 70 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.800 have the iconic legendary Land and Conrad. 71 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:14.759 You guys. 72 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:17.039 Welcome. 73 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:22.080 Oh wait, you can't hear you. 74 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:23.080 How's that? 75 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:24.560 Yes? I can hear you now. 76 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:25.879 How you doing. 77 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.840 I'm great, looking, good to see you too. Thank you 78 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.520 so much for joining us today. How's it going in 79 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.719 this lovely, lovely may gray. 80 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.240 It's good, it's good. Yeah, just enjoying the nice weather today, 81 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.400 and I'm excited to be here with you guys. 82 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.599 Yeah, at the time of this recording, it's been it's 83 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:44.879 been kind of gray these days. But yeah, I feel 84 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:46.000 like summer is on its way. 85 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.159 Yes, good, I know I'm a te uh huh are 86 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:51.039 you big summer baby? 87 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.960 Yes, definitely. That's why I live in LA because I 88 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:57.840 love the beach, the sun, weather. 89 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:59.159 You've been in La a long time? 90 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.039 Yeah, I have been in and out of Lay for 91 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:03.919 about twenty years, but originally from Salt Lake City. 92 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.520 So oh you are yea. What was it like boy here? 93 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:08.039 Oh? 94 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:08.759 Is that true? 95 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:09.520 You grew up Mormon? 96 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:10.039 Yeah? 97 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:12.159 Of course everyone there does. Wow. 98 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:13.520 Yeah, what was that like? 99 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:16.560 It was actually pretty good. 100 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.399 Like I wasn't really very active in the church and 101 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.240 my family didn't really push it on me, so I 102 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.319 knew very young I was gay, so I kind of 103 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.720 distanced myself from the church and kind of did my 104 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:34.040 own thing. So okay, but definitely growing up there, if 105 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:37.680 you're gay, you're extra gay just to go against establishments. 106 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:43.399 So we're very queer gay, you know, we're out there. Definitely. 107 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:46.759 Is that kind of a common story with Mormon families, Like, well, 108 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.680 if you're gay, that you kind of like really put 109 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:50.160 it out there. 110 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.560 Well, I mean mine didn't have anything to do with 111 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.800 my family, had to do with the community, the Mormon 112 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.279 community there, because, like I said, my family was accepting 113 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.319 me being gay. But yeah, I mean I think a 114 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.399 lot of people they either do or they don't. They 115 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:05.279 live in. 116 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.160 Sixty christy secrecy. 117 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:12.920 I have a list. So if you're out, yes, definitely. 118 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.360 So was it pretty comfortable for you in those times, 119 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:17.319 those formative years? 120 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:17.759 Yeah? 121 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:18.600 Good times. 122 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.360 What would you say, like, at what age did you did? 123 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.399 I mean, like, did you tell your parents? Like? 124 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:29.199 Yeah, I told my parents when it was going to 125 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.199 come out eventually. I mean some of my family knew, 126 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:34.920 and they when I asked them not to tell my parents, 127 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:36.759 they were like, well, the cat's out of the bag. 128 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.399 So I knew I needed to come out with it, 129 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.639 and I was. I was prepared to do that anyway. 130 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:45.600 So I came out to my mom when I was 131 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:50.199 like I believe I was twenty. But to myself, I 132 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.120 mean I was out to myself when I was Oh. 133 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:56.000 I knew I was gay when I was in kindergarten 134 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.240 so oh wow, really yeah, and I accepted it like 135 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.319 when I was in your high okay, so and knew 136 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:03.720 what it actually was. 137 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.160 Were you were you practicing? 138 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:10.199 I did practice towards the end of high school. But 139 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:14.720 during high school I did have girlfriends and I didn't 140 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.560 really do much sexually with them, but I knew I 141 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.079 was gay, so you know, I didn't want to get 142 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.240 too involved sexually with them. But they were more like girlfriends. 143 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:28.279 Yeah, yeah, like squirrelfriends. 144 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:30.240 Girlfriends titty fucked. 145 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:36.639 Wow. Yes, Oh you can say whatever you want, don't 146 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.279 be afraid. Yeah, I know. 147 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:40.600 I was always really scared to touch my girlfriends in 148 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.560 high school. You weren't, though, no, but I was. 149 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.279 I always. I mean, titty fucking to me is just 150 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:51.800 like silliness. It is to like the things that have 151 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.879 no feeling for one person. I can't get into like 152 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.079 what it's hot about it. God, I guess, I mean, 153 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:01.319 I guess a hand jot. It feels it feels good, like. 154 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:03.839 Sliding in between. 155 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:09.399 It's kind of like I just kind of think of 156 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.560 like a woman bouncing and like the teds being smashed 157 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.800 together to make some kind. 158 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:15.439 Of I mean shit. 159 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:17.680 As fans of Peter North, I feel like that was 160 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:19.839 like a common thing we watched He titt fucked a 161 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:20.839 lot of his co stars. 162 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.399 That wasn't what I was. I've watched him actually. 163 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.600 Yeah yeah, but a lot of time his titty fucking 164 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.079 scenes is what ended in those cum shots, if I 165 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:29.959 remember correct. 166 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.360 Speaking of were you a porn watcher during those days? 167 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:34.959 Definitely? 168 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:36.439 Yeah? What kind of porn did you watch? 169 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:42.000 I mean gay porn worn? Yeah, like I loved Matthew 170 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:46.079 Rush and Coleton Ford. I actually like porn was illegal 171 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.079 in Utah and this was kind of before the Internet, 172 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.120 so well, no, the internet what it was around, but. 173 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:55.959 Yeah, that wasn't Were you born in the early eighties 174 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:56.439 like we were. 175 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:00.879 I was born in the seventies, what, daddy? Yeah, oh wow, 176 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:01.759 seventy six. 177 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:06.399 Oh wow, you look so fucking good. Well done, an 178 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:10.519 inspiration to us all like a fine wine. All right? 179 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:10.920 Cool? 180 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.480 Okay, So then, wow, I mean for somebody to be 181 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:16.560 born in seventy six and know as early as kindergarten 182 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.279 that you were gay, Like how did you even have 183 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:21.639 the verbiage the you know what I mean? Like, how 184 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:22.759 did you even know what that was? 185 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:23.319 I did? 186 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.600 I didn't know what it was like when I was 187 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.639 Like I said, when I was in kindergarten, I wanted 188 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.279 to be friends with the cute boys. Okay, later in 189 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.639 life I realized that was a crush, you know, but 190 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.279 then it was just I wanted to be around them. 191 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.399 I remember the first kid I ever had a crush on, 192 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.960 and he had Michael Jackson parachute pants. Oh wow, So 193 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.679 I wanted to go and get Michael Jackson parachute pants, 194 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.799 and I did. Actually, the funny thing is it turns 195 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:53.279 out that this guy was actually gay and way down 196 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.879 later in life in high school, we actually did hook up, 197 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:58.639 kind of hooked up, kind of hooked up. 198 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.960 Yeah. Do you remember like a first hookup, like a 199 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:04.960 first gay hookup. 200 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.440 Yes, this, I mean, this is so gay. But the 201 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:14.279 very first guy ever hooked up with. He lived south 202 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.440 of Salt Lake City in a town called Provo where 203 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.600 the b yu is and I met him through the 204 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:25.320 Madonna Fan Club. And in the back of the Madonna 205 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:32.200 Fan Club monthly publication there were ads for penpals, okay, 206 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.159 and I saw that there was this guy that lived 207 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:37.399 in Pleasant Grove, Utah. And I wrote to him and 208 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.720 we exchanged letters back and forth, and then finally one 209 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:44.279 day in my little Honda Civic, I drove down there 210 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.200 and I met him and he was living with his 211 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.440 boyfriend and his parents, and wow, he was you know. 212 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.879 Of course, we talked about Madonna and then we gave 213 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.440 each other hand jobs and blow jobs. 214 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:03.039 And that was the extent of this so innocent an 215 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.240 analog I let impals in the personal section of a 216 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.000 Madonna fan club publication. 217 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:12.720 That's amazing. I do not hear stories like that much 218 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:13.279 these days. 219 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:16.519 Yeah, that's definitely from someone born in the seventies. 220 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:22.559 Yeah, so then were you Were you in Utah until you. 221 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:23.759 Moved to La Yeah. 222 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.360 I was in Utah until twenty okay, and I moved 223 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.799 to La two. I was working for I was working 224 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:32.879 for north Strom at the time, so I came here 225 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:35.960 to work at the Grove to open the grove, and 226 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:38.440 on my days off, I would go hang out at 227 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:43.440 the abbey, and which was usually midweek, and back then 228 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.600 the abbey was just a little coffee shop. 229 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:49.440 And I wait, well, year was this? This is like 230 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.000 sounds like I was. 231 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.480 I met I met two thousand and two. Two thousand two, gotcha, 232 00:10:59.320 --> 00:10:59.720 And I. 233 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.559 Thought he met like, yeah, I just love that. 234 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:08.759 Sorry, thank you for clarifying. So I would go hang 235 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.039 out there and I had a boyfriend at the time, 236 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:13.200 and I would take his dog and I would just 237 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:17.320 go and you know, drink lattes and get like pastries, 238 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.919 and I would get approached by porn Scouts. They had 239 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:24.320 that then, and they would come out and have you 240 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.720 ever thought about doing porn? And would hand out their 241 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.720 business cards, and I just kind of just started to like, 242 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:34.279 you know, I started to think about it. I'm kind 243 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.679 of a not kind of I am an exhibitionist, and 244 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.600 you know, I loved porn stars back then, and so 245 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:43.159 I was like, yeah, I want to do it. It 246 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.879 took me about it took me eight years to actually 247 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.559 do it, but I had all that time to you know, 248 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:50.720 marinate on the idea. 249 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:51.840 Eight years. 250 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:57.600 Yeah, I finally did porn in twenty ten. And like 251 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.679 I said, this was two thousand and two. 252 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:04.360 So yeah, shit, wow, yeah I remember I remember being 253 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:09.200 a fan of yours, of yours stuff. Sure yeah wow. 254 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.159 So okay, So if so, were you like kind of 255 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:12.159 a twink or were you? 256 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:12.559 No? 257 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:18.039 No, I've never been a twink. Actually, I was a swimmer. 258 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.000 I swam in junior high, high school, and in college. 259 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:27.039 I was had a thicker swimmer's body. But yeah, never 260 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:31.159 been a twink. But I never really started working out until. 261 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.039 Like more in a bodybuilding kind of yeah. 262 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.080 Yeah, until I moved to LA in two thousand and two. 263 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:36.759 Gotcha. 264 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.600 But yeah, I've always been pretty fit. 265 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:41.600 You those Mormons have the best genes. 266 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:43.279 Huh, Yes, I don't know. 267 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:44.720 I mean that's what. 268 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:49.080 People say, but like, I don't know. I guess it 269 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:50.440 depends on what you like, just. 270 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:51.080 The gay ones. 271 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:54.360 Well, so let's so let's talk about this journey like 272 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:57.480 in twenty ten. Yeah, you were you finally decided you 273 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.159 were going to give it a shot. Yeah, what was 274 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.159 your first I reached. 275 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.039 Out to Chi Chi LaRue, Okay, and she was actually 276 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.840 coming to Salt Lake City to DJ, and she's like, oh, 277 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.840 let's meet up. Come by my hotel. There's a Starbucks 278 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.720 in the lobby and we can talk about things. And 279 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.679 I went and I met her and she asked about 280 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.320 my name, like what are you thinking about doing? And 281 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.919 how serious I argue about doing this, and you know, 282 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.240 we talked and everything and she liked me, and a 283 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.919 few weeks later she flew me out to LA because 284 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.559 I was actually living in Saltlake when I started, so 285 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:36.840 she flew me out to LA and I did. My 286 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:43.080 first movie was Playing with Fire, which had Matthew Rush 287 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:47.399 in it, which was pretty intimidating for me, and Johnny 288 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:51.120 Hazard and oh geez, I can't even remember who else 289 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:56.840 but it was an orgy and a fire truck. So yeah, 290 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:01.879 the fire truck, I think, so yeah, yeah, yeah, it 291 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.320 was it was fun. It was crazy. You know, she 292 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.519 was sitting there like screaming, landing suck his cock and 293 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.080 you know, just screaming. 294 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:10.600 Like what to do. 295 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.679 And I was just like, holy shit, like I had 296 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.600 this out of body experience. I'm like, it's just really 297 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:20.960 my life right now. Like it was very liberating, scary, 298 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:25.200 of course, wild as fuck, but fun, a lot of fun. 299 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.039 Yeah, I feel like I had I didn't have a 300 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:29.360 feeling like that on a porn set. I had a 301 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.759 feeling like that when I was shooting something with Raheem 302 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.600 and he had like organized something for me to top 303 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:40.240 this guy I don't even remember who it was, like, 304 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.399 I don't think he does it anymore. But I remember 305 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:45.440 sitting around like we filmed for like an hour and 306 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.440 then it was like we were waiting for things to 307 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.720 transfer and like air drop or something, and it took 308 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.320 a lot longer than and I remember just standing there. 309 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:56.159 I'm like naked, everybody's naked, and we're like sitting around 310 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.279 with these fucking iPads and iPhones and shit, and I'm like, 311 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:00.639 what the fuck am I doing? 312 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:02.679 Yes, it is crazy. 313 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:04.559 I'm like, oh my god, and I drove home and 314 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.159 I just felt like all this anxiety and then I 315 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.639 like and then I forgot about it and like that 316 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.440 seems similar to what you're talking about. 317 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:13.919 Yeah, well, you know, it's for a lot of people 318 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.000 who are listening at home who know who Sheishi LaRue 319 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.480 is who is a drag personality who also directs porn 320 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.840 and and DJs. You know, it's interesting working. I'm considering 321 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:24.639 that she was your first scene and it was a group. 322 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.200 The way she she directs is she pretty much cheer 323 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.840 leads the entire way through, like she's kind she kind 324 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.360 of like almost narrates what she wants you to be doing, 325 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.240 which makes it very hard for the editors and sound people. 326 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.679 Like after I heard that, after a few years of that, 327 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.919 they started asking her to not be in the room 328 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.120 right and she she would pretty much say what she 329 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.960 wanted and then leave the room because the editors were like, 330 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.720 we cannot do this anymore. So did you feel like 331 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:53.360 when you film that scene that like this is what 332 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:54.120 porn is like? 333 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.720 I mean, yeah, I mean I worked, you know, I 334 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.519 didn't work with a whole lot of different directors At 335 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.879 first my pretty much my whole studio career, I was 336 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.720 with Falcon and Raging Stallion. 337 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:07.960 Ye. 338 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.159 After I did the shoot with Channel one Chi Chi, 339 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:14.639 I was signed with Falcon right after. 340 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.440 That, Okay, and so I only really worked. 341 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:21.960 With Steve Cruz and you know the directors there, and 342 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.080 you know, they kind of have the same style, not 343 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:29.679 maybe so much the yelling and everything. 344 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:35.159 But yeah, very well lit studio. H Grista. Yeah. 345 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:38.679 So between twenty ten and for like the bulk of 346 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.240 your early career, you were mostly with Falcon Aging Side. 347 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.200 I was with Falcon and Raging Stallion and then until 348 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:49.639 like I believe twenty fourteen, and then I was a 349 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.039 free agent after that and I worked quite a bit 350 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.039 with Men dot Com and you know whatever other random studios, 351 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:01.720 and then about like twenty fifteen, I went back for 352 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.680 about a year and was exclusive with Falcon again, and 353 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.119 then I ended that same Yearror. 354 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.079 So you ended around twenty fifteen. Yeah, before that was 355 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:16.359 when your hiatus began. Yeah cool, Okay, Well, before we 356 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:18.680 get into that, tell us a little bit about your 357 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.599 memory about that era of porn, in that style of 358 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:23.839 creating porn. Are they good memories? 359 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:24.519 Bad? Memories. 360 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.559 I mean they're great memories. Like I always had a 361 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:30.599 good time, and working with Falcon was like back then, 362 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:32.759 it was kind of like your you know, we made 363 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:35.960 used to make jokes. It was like your porn family. Yes, 364 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.920 we were all very close. The other exclusives didn't really 365 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:40.880 like me at. 366 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.799 First, But why is that You think they're jealous? 367 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:49.160 They were, they were, I mean I was. I was 368 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.440 taught for a while and they didn't like it, you know, 369 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:55.920 but I ended up becoming really good friends with a 370 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.759 few of them who are no longer here, unfortunately, But. 371 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:01.319 It was it was great. 372 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:06.279 I moved to La twenty ten, and so then I 373 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.799 was always flying to San Francisco to film because that's 374 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.200 where they did it then, and it was a great 375 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.319 escape from La I love San Francisco. It's like, you know, 376 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:20.480 definitely got break from here, and it was like little vacations, 377 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:22.799 you know. Yes, it actually kind of almost became like 378 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:24.359 a second home to me because I was up there 379 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:29.160 like at least twice a month. And yeah, it was 380 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:31.559 it was fun. I liked it, like it was a 381 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:35.279 lot of fun. But I knew that, you know, I 382 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.319 was just going to end when it no longer was fun, 383 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:41.000 and you know, I kind of got to the point 384 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.680 where I'm like over it, like you know, we all do, 385 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.640 and I decided I didn't want to do it anymore, 386 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.079 and I left and I I'm back. 387 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:54.680 Yeah. It's weird though. I guess when it was only 388 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.079 a studio world for like porn, it was kind of 389 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:03.400 easy to just start saying no to jobs. Oh yeah, 390 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.279 but like when you have only fans now in the mix, Yeah, like, 391 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.720 how do you just like stop doing only fans? 392 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.680 Yeah, I mean if it's your main gig. 393 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:16.839 But I just I feel like I feel like for me, 394 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.160 it would be hard to just like get rid. 395 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:22.400 Of well, if it's your main gig especially Yeah, definitely. Yeah, 396 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:24.880 but that was kind of when I started. I started 397 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:29.119 in twenty thirteen, and actually, you are story it's really 398 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:30.720 actually quite formative for me. 399 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:32.519 I don't know if you remember those joys. 400 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:33.640 I definitely remember. 401 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:34.039