WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:19.280 Seven oh six at fifty five garr C the talk station. 2 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:21.519 Very happy Wednesday, so you try to make it happy anyway, 3 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:25.039 inspight of Well, what I view as a rather disappointing 4 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:28.039 performance last night by Donald Trump and Kamala Harris able 5 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.559 to at least manage to not totally screw up. Now 6 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.600 we're going to get the thoughts and impressions from the 7 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:37.159 Ohio Republican Party Chairman, Alex Chiranta Fila, Welcome back, Alex. 8 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:38.520 Always a real pleasure to have you on the fifty 9 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:39.679 five KRSE Morning Show. 10 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:42.920 Bryan, good morning, and privileged to be with you. And 11 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:44.719 you know I'd be remiss if I didn't say it. 12 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.320 Today is September eleventh, so let's take this the second 13 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:50.359 here to remember that that day. Many of us remember 14 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:52.359 that day very sadly. But anyway, No, it's good to 15 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:55.000 be with you and happy to talk about a little 16 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:56.439 bit about that debate last night. 17 00:00:56.799 --> 00:01:00.640 Well, what your takeaway, I obviously all morning I'm not 18 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.799 sure you. I don't expect you to have listened to 19 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:06.519 the program this morning. I viewed with the measure of disappointment. 20 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:09.439 I really thought, you know, given all of the issues 21 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.480 and where we are in this country and our debt, 22 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:14.920 and our uh, the immigration problem, on and on and on. 23 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:17.040 He is on the right side and the winning side 24 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:20.239 of so many issues. And yet she managed to squeak 25 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:22.599 by without totally screwing up. And he took the bait 26 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:26.040 quite off and thrown at him. Bait went back to 27 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:28.239 the stolen election. And you know, I could go on, 28 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.200 but I want your reaction, and I want to hear 29 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:31.400 what you have to say about it. 30 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.799 Well, look, clearly, I'm biased to favorite President Trump and strongly. 31 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.359 And you know what my thoughts are this and I've 32 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.280 got I've got many of them, first of all. And look, 33 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:44.000 I'm not a big fan of whining about the referees, 34 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.159 you know when I watch a sporting event. So I 35 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:50.120 don't love bashing the moderators, but you have to in 36 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:53.400 this circumstances. This was the worst moderated debate I've ever seen. 37 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.159 I mean, you know, Breitbart News does an excellent piece 38 00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.359 this morning about the seven times they fact checked Donald Trump, 39 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.200 but they refused to fact check her on her multiple 40 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.200 multiple lies, you know, saying that many police officers died 41 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:11.199 on January sixth, approvable lie. Things like Donald Trump said 42 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.879 there are many, you know, people on both sides of 43 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.439 the issue that are good people. Meaning he was talking 44 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.599 about white racist, he wasn't. He was talking about a 45 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.319 healthy debate about monuments in our country. So you know, 46 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:26.280 many lies told by her. Listen. I mean, let's let's 47 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.479 go backward just for a second, Brian, and talk about 48 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:32.280 the first debate that was the most consequential, consequential presidential 49 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.840 debate in American history. Obviously, Joe Biden collapsed in that debate, 50 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:39.319 but that collapse was made made, you know, partially available 51 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.080 there because of Donald Trump's performance and how well he 52 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.800 had a command of things. And she didn't look. I 53 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:48.719 understand where people are coming from. Yesterday. They expected the cackling, 54 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.240 unprepared Kamala Harris that we've all gotten used to seeing, 55 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:54.120 and those of us who pay attention to it. So 56 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:59.120 she outperformed expectations, you know, barely in my mind, but 57 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.120 on substance, and she just didn't have the substance. Anybody 58 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.199 watching that debate last night did not walk away saying, Wow, 59 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.560 she has a real plan to curb inflation, or my gosh, 60 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.560 she's got a real, honest to God plan to stop 61 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.520 the flow at the southern border. No on style points. 62 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.879 You know, I'll give her a modicum of credit, not 63 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.439 a lot, but a little bit. She she certainly held 64 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.439 her own on style alone. And you know, that's what 65 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:26.639 she's been about. That's, frankly in a bigger topic is 66 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:30.879 you know, the modern American political debate sometimes is around style. 67 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.719 We watched Barack Obama win the presidency on what was 68 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.280 deemed a cool factor on nothing to do with you know, 69 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:38.479 nothing to do with this qualifications for the job. That 70 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:40.560 we're kind of seeing the same thing here where she's 71 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.080 just trying to win on style points. So you know, overall, 72 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:44.560 I saw a lot of what she had to say 73 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.439 was memorized. I thought the moderators were terrible. I thought 74 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.199 she refused to answer questions. Yeah why, you know, I 75 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:51.759 wish we were able to hold her feet to the 76 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.960 fire more on some of those refusals. But I think 77 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.800 a good set of moderators would have done a better 78 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:58.680 job of helping us see that. So those are kind 79 00:03:58.680 --> 00:03:59.759 of my initial takeaways. 80 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.639 Well, I mean, I guess I have to, you know, 81 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:03.240 pivot over it and say, well, isn't that wasn't that 82 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.280 Donald Trump's job? Knowing full well the Dack is decked 83 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:08.240 against him going in. All she needs to do is 84 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.879 just get through it without totally screwing up. But she 85 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.439 offered a lot of opportunities for him to go directly toward, 86 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.560 you know, like what in the hell when you see 87 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:20.279 opportunity economy, which she mentioned multiple times, Alex, I have 88 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.160 no idea what that means. And isn't that a great 89 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:26.319 pivot point? Like what are you talking about? 90 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:27.040 What? 91 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.199 What the hell do you mean by opportunity economy? I mean, 92 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.160 you know, he has an obligation to pivot back and 93 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.680 do what the moderators aren't doing, which is point out 94 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.600 that what she's saying is a bunch of fluff, nonsense, 95 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:39.800 platitudes with no substance. 96 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:43.360 Well, yeah, I thought he had done some of that. 97 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.199 I really did. I felt like he especially towards the end, 98 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:47.800 the middle of the end of the debate, I thought 99 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.519 he did an excellent job. Really, I'm talking ultimately about 100 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.360 the differences between the visions that he has and the 101 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:55.920 vision that she has for the country. Look, I appreciate 102 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:57.879 those some of the frustration that you're feeling. I've read 103 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.360 a lot of this online. You know, she we those 104 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.480 of us who know that Kamala Harris is kind of 105 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.279 an empty suit expected to see more of that. And 106 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:08.360 when we you know, when we weren't able to sort 107 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.959 of have that happen because the moderators, you know, some 108 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.120 frustration set in, and I appreciate that, but I'm going 109 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.480 to tell you this, and I there's actually some overnight 110 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.959 pulling to a substantiate this. Nothing about this race has changed. 111 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.560 So again from my perspective, here in Ohio, Donald Trump 112 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.600 commands a big lead. This is a red state because 113 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.360 the Democrats have left the mainstream of American politics. Much 114 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.879 of what she tried to talk about never really did, 115 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.160 is not in the mainstream of American politics. We believe 116 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.319 in fracking, we believe in energy, we believe in secure 117 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.079 southern borders. We believe in you know, strong law enforcement 118 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.279 to protect us from the scourge of crime. All of 119 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.800 these things continue to be popular in places like Ohio 120 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.800 and in places like Pennsylvania. Look, she cannot run away 121 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.240 from her record on fracking. She cannot run away from 122 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.319 from the you know, porous Southern boarder that's now affecting 123 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.480 every single city in America, not just the border cities. 124 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:03.319 So you know, there's a lot that came out of 125 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.399 that debate on policy on policy, and you know, if 126 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.759 you look at the style point piece, I appreciate where 127 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.319 some people are this morning, but for me personally, I 128 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:13.800 feel like Donald Trump held his zone on policy last night. 129 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.439 And that's a fair assessment. I mean, when you go 130 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:19.720 back and read the transcript, which I've got in front 131 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.399 of me, it's like thirty single space eight and a 132 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.959 half by eleven sheets of paper. When you read it, 133 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.360 it comes across as though you're right, he did get 134 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:31.319 some you know, good points in there, but she was 135 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.240 given such a pass. And I just look at so 136 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.480 many sort of missed opportunities, like, for example, and I've 137 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.040 been stuck on this all morning, but you heard the 138 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.120 top of the ron is they're making fun of Donald 139 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.920 Trump for mentioning the dogs and cats thing. It was 140 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.680 a much easier point and one that cannot be denied. 141 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:48.800 That you got twenty thousand Haitian immigrants that have descended 142 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.720 on Springfield, Ohio. I mean their own mayor complained to 143 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.720 my orcus about and a letter that was sent out 144 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.839 a couple of years ago. Listen, we got a problem 145 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:56.600 on our hands here. 146 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:57.759 That's fact. 147 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.480 Stick to that and say, look, look, this is an illustration. 148 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.399 You see it in Chicago, you see it in New York, 149 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.360 you see it on the southern border states. They're overwhelmed 150 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:11.279 because of Kamala Harris's gross incompetence and refusal to secure 151 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.079 and protect our southern borders. Boom and the point. But 152 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.199 we went down to cat Road, well. 153 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.480 And look, and I appreciate that this is actually And 154 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.920 again you're going to think I'm spinning hard, and I 155 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:24.319 really am not. I'm going to tell you something about 156 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.319 President Trump that we've all witnessed over the last several years. 157 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:32.360 He has a particular knack of simplifying things and getting 158 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:36.240 directly to the point. By talking about cats and dogs 159 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.040 and pets. He has us all talking about the greater 160 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:45.519 issue of immigration, whether it's just a sexier talking point 161 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:49.120 or a more persuasive way to get to the point. 162 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:53.319 He has us talking about Haitian immigrants this morning because 163 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.240 of what some people think is an outlandish statement. The 164 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.199 fact of the matter is, though in his own way, 165 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.120 he has us talking about it on the southern border. 166 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.879 He's the guy who said build a wall, three simple 167 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.600 words that moved the immigration debate into the forefront of 168 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:11.879 the American political psyche in the same way. He is 169 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.240 talking about these pets in a way that some of 170 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:16.279 us might be like, well, mister President, you know, get 171 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:19.079 to the point. Well, but listen, he has generally the 172 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.399 American people saying, what the heck's he talking about? And 173 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.680 when they look at what he's talking about, is it 174 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.600 relates to pets and cats and dogs, et cetera, they 175 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.879 will find out. And they're finding out that we have 176 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:32.759 twenty thousand immigrants descending on a town of sixty thousand 177 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.559 people in beautiful Clerk County, sprink to o Io at 178 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.320 place I've been multiple times, including with Bernie Marino. Let 179 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.200 me tell you what's happening. There is a travesty and 180 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.759 the fact that we can talk about it is again 181 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.039 in my own way, Brian, I really believe a little 182 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.000 bit of the brilliance of Donald Trump. He has us 183 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:51.440 talking about Springfield in a way we work, and he 184 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:53.240 did it by talking about your pets. 185 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:57.279 Okay, And I hear you, And is it because maybe 186 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:01.399 my expectations perhaps are a little too or because I 187 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.799 know so much about it, because this is what I 188 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:06.519 do for a living every single day, pouring through the 189 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.440 news and every afternoon pouring through the news. I know 190 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.799 all the details. I know what the facts are, and 191 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.639 I maybe presume that everybody knows that already. So you're 192 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.639 giving Trump credit for boiling things down to an easily 193 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.200 digestible sound bite that's going to cause people to talk 194 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.600 about it. That's the strategy, that is what he is about. 195 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.639 So you're giving him credit along those lines. 196 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.559 Well, I am, And again I think that's one of 197 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:32.240 the things that he does well. And Brian, you know 198 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:34.720 what you just said. And I'm getting a little deep 199 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:36.440 here this morning, but what you just said is what 200 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.039 we struggle with in the political business, so to speak, 201 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.159 all the time. Yeah, and that is always so in 202 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.159 our cocoon and so in our echo chamber that we're 203 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:47.039 not thinking about what the average citizen says. You know, 204 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:50.360 I routinely say to political candidates, walk into an olive 205 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.279 garden on a Saturday at seven o'clock and grab somebody 206 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.799 out of a booth, pull them outside, and ask them 207 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:59.159 what they know about politics, because that's the person that 208 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:02.279 we're trying to each Okay, I tick Olive garden because 209 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:03.720 you know it's got a big old you know, there's 210 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.240 people there from every walk of life, et cetera. But 211 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:09.279 I mean that average citizen, not people who are tuned in, 212 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:12.000 you know, every single day to talk radio or follow 213 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.600 the Wall Street Journal, et cetera. I'm talking about regular 214 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.240 people that are just living their lives and they're if 215 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:23.480 they're talking this morning about cats at Springfield at Springfield, Ohio, 216 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:26.639 they're going to learn about the Haitian migration crisis that 217 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:27.600 has affected our state. 218 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.240 Fair enough, let's pause. 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See the talk station. 262 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.799 Six twenty if if you have kr CD talk station 263 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.080 Brian Thomas with the Ohio Republican Party Chairman Alex TROWNIFILO 264 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:42.039 walking through the debate topics and criticisms and comments and observations. 265 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:46.159 There was a suggestion from the Harris camp, Alex that 266 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:47.720 they might want to do a second debate. Do you 267 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.600 think that's going to happen? I really don't. Her strategy 268 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.320 of hiding and again last night not even providing much 269 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:56.080 by way of specific information. Again, I go to the 270 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.120 opportunity economy and not knowing what the hell that means. 271 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.000 But she opened with it and ended with it and 272 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.720 didn't provide any details on at least not many. But 273 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.159 you think she's going to like go back into hiding 274 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:10.639 and not entertain a more substantive pressing press, assuming they're 275 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.759 even out there and willing to engage in a more 276 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:15.039 substantive conversation with her. 277 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.080 Yeah, kind of two questions there is. You know, First 278 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.480 of all, I think you know that I have no 279 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.559 idea internally whether I'm not connected to the Trump campaign 280 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.080 in any official capacity, So I can't tell you whether or 281 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.600 not there would or wouldn't be a second debate, just 282 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:28.360 to be clear. 283 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:30.000 To cover myself there sure no no take. 284 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:32.120 I mean the one thing he could, yes, thank you, 285 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.120 but I you know, I here's here's the thing about this. 286 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.200 Donald Trump has shown a total desire to go into 287 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.240 the belly of the beast. I mean, you go onto 288 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:45.360 ABC News, a place that's completely horrifically biased against them, 289 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:49.039 and put up with those terrible moderators, you know, fact 290 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.759 checked over and over when she didn't get fact checked once, 291 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:53.799 you know it just kind of shows you the kind 292 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:55.559 of leader and the kind of president he is. He's 293 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:59.840 gone into every venue, friendly or unfriendly, and answered questions 294 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.600 for the American people. So would it surprise me if 295 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:05.080 he agreed to another debate. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. 296 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.080 You know. She, on the other hand, has has been 297 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.720 carefully scripted. She locked herself away for five days to 298 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.000 prepare to deliver those zinger sound bites that she, you know, 299 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.879 thought she did such a good job at doing last night. So, 300 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.559 you know, I honestly don't know if there'd be another debate. 301 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.480 Here's what I know, Brian, I don't think that last 302 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:26.399 night ultimately changed anything. I think a lot of us thought, well, 303 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.000 let's have a knockout punch to Kamala Harris. You know 304 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:31.480 that probably didn't happen last night. There was an overnight 305 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.639 poll that I asked to share on my Twitter that 306 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:36.440 kind of said the same thing, which is, people's minds 307 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.080 are kind of where they are, and look, if these 308 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.679 polls are even going into election day, we're going to win. 309 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:43.240 President Trump will win. He under he outperformed the polls 310 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.720 almost every time. And the fact of the matter is 311 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.120 the American people are smarter than we give them credit for. Right, 312 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.960 one debate performance or one debate overall is not going 313 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.799 to change this race for anyone who's actually looking at 314 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.159 the records of the past four years compared to the 315 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.159 records of the four years record four years before that 316 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.320 under Donald Trump. So I'm not sure a whole lot 317 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.080 of mind's got changed. It's something to talk about this morning. 318 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:08.039 But the American people are smart. They're going to make 319 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:11.399 a decision about whether they're better off today, you know, 320 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.480 than they were four years ago. And on that question 321 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:14.440 we went. 322 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:17.639 Big, okay, And at that point you and I agree completely. 323 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.639 I am firmly committed to that that, yes, the American 324 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:22.799 people are smart enough to know because they go grocery 325 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:25.600 shopping every week, they have to pay their energy bill 326 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.480 every week, they have to fill their gas tank up 327 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.720 probably every week. So yes, we are in a much 328 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:32.879 worse place now than we were four years ago. And 329 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.200 of course the immigration situation, I don't think that's gone 330 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.720 underneath anybody's radar, to be quite honest with you, It's 331 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:43.159 just been a national, constant, constant problem for cities both 332 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.320 blue and red. So those are you know, a couple 333 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.480 of great points that he's got in his favor. And 334 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.679 when it comes down to that polling, what did your 335 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:51.879 overnight polling reflect? And I guess I'm kind of curious 336 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.240 to know how you would get sort of in quote 337 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.279 unquote instant poll like that, Alex. 338 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:00.159 Yeah, you know, the poll I just reap by sort 339 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.799 of republished on my Twitter was from the Trafalgar Group, 340 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.240 which is, you know, a nationally recognized polling firm. And look, 341 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.320 we could do an entire show on polling. We won't. 342 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:13.200 So polling is sometimes accurate, sometimes not the first snapshot. Yeah, yeah, 343 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.679 So the Trafalgar Group is a nationally known group. We've 344 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.480 we've actually used them here in Ohio account a few 345 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.960 things and anyway, but basically, the poll said that they 346 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.679 asked people before and after the debate where do you stand? 347 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:27.159 And nothing changed? You know, that's the basic takeaway from 348 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.480 that pole and I suspect that's ultimately how this works. 349 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:32.639 This was not you know, look, we saw in the 350 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.799 last debate what a disastrous debate looks like and with 351 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.799 for Joe Biden, and we saw his presidency end in 352 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:42.120 one debate that was not going to happen here, And 353 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:44.720 nor did I predict you know that one side or 354 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.759 the other would deliver a knockout blow. That was that 355 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.639 was a lot of us on our side really wanted that. 356 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.000 You know, we thought, we know that Kamala Harris is 357 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.200 a lightweight, not up to this job. And you know 358 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:57.759 the facts bear that out, not just one you know, 359 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.840 you know, fifty five minutes scripted, but anyway, you know 360 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.720 that was not going to happen and did not happen 361 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:04.200 last night. 362 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.440 Well and you know when as you mentioned that, and 363 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:09.640 I've given this some thought about the Biden Trump debate 364 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.279 and what ended his political career, I really think that 365 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.000 they sent him out there for that express purpose. Biden, 366 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.400 they let him get they crucified him. I think they 367 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:21.160 intentionally let him go out there and monumentally screw up, 368 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:22.759 knowing full well that was going to happen, so they 369 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:24.000 could get him out of the race. 370 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.039 The way the Democratic Party has treated, you know, one 371 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:32.359 of their fifty years stalwarts and Joe Biden is actually 372 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.440 all you need to know about the Democratic Party. I mean, 373 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.240 if you look at our party, you know, we we 374 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.759 have lifted up and celebrated our leaders for a long time, 375 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.519 from Ronald reag and cleared it. You know when we 376 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.279 buried President and President of first President Bush, you know 377 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.759 we lift up our leaders. The Democrats have thrown to 378 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:51.240 Joe Biden overboard in the most ignominious fashion. You even 379 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:55.079 saw Kamala Harris throw Joe Biden over the over the 380 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.400 rails last night. It was ugly and this is how 381 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.599 they act. And anyway, it none of it surprises me 382 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:02.960 about the Democrats at this point. 383 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.960 Read Animal Farm and recall the character of Boxer, who 384 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:09.319 is basically Joe Biden. He used up his political life 385 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:11.960 and they set him off to the glue factory. Thanks 386 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.960 for your service, Alex Chrautafilo. Thank you for appearing on 387 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:16.640 the morning show. It's always wonderful having you on the 388 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.720 show and offering your your thoughtful insights and comments. I'll 389 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:21.279 look forward to talking with you again and I'm sure 390 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:24.960 we will before the election. Always a privileged Brian. Have 391 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.359 a great day you too, sir. Seven twenty six fifty 392 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.119 five krs. The talk station. Joe opened up the phones. 393 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:31.720 You feel free to call. You have some time until 394 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:34.200 Congressom Massie joins the program coming up at eight oh five, 395 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:36.400 and of course Judge and Paul Town are coming up 396 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:38.240 in a little bit more than an hour. That'll be 397 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.400 in the eight o'clock hour five one, three, seven, four 398 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.440 nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three 399 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.119 talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones. 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