Speaker 1: Oh, bed of that's art. Hello, and welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: of Conspiracy Collective. We're just calling it that from now on, everybody.
Speaker 2: Welcome Tim Constantine to the show. Brother, how have you been.
Speaker 2: We ain't talked to you in a hot minute.
Speaker 3: It's been too long, but I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3: I'm good and I like being called in an affiliate
Speaker 3: of the show. I'm here for that, man. It's to
Speaker 3: be back on.
Speaker 1: You know, full on team member dog.
Speaker 2: For anybody who doesn't know you do drop an episode
Speaker 2: every week on Sundays, and the good cult members seem
Speaker 2: to really enjoy those.
Speaker 1: But uh, what have you been getting into lately?
Speaker 2: What's the latest talking point to the latest thing you've
Speaker 2: been really diving deep into?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cult of Conspiracy. Conspiracy Garden is the show every Sunday.
Speaker 3: I just want case there's new people listening. Jacob's absolutely right,
Speaker 3: and I have my other show, sixth Insury Podcast. I
Speaker 3: could play that later. And I guess one of the
Speaker 3: things that I'm I've been more into lately. I don't
Speaker 3: know what to call it because it's so big. It's
Speaker 3: such a big story. I don't know even what to
Speaker 3: call it yet. I don't even know where to start
Speaker 3: with it yet. But it's like it includes everyone, Okay,
Speaker 3: next to everyone connects to Elon Musk, jd Vance, the
Speaker 3: current administration, you know, Peter Thiel, Uh Kurtzwile, Ray Kurtzweil,
Speaker 3: all the big tech overlords, everyone who has current power
Speaker 3: and influence. Uh goes back to the Nazis, goes back
Speaker 3: to Huxley, H G. Wells, Philip k Dick, Francis bac
Speaker 3: and George Washington.
Speaker 2: Queen Elizabeth, I was with you, we said, tech bros.
Speaker 2: I'm with you Nazis. Okay, I make the connection. We're
Speaker 2: just throwing out George Washington that wait what That's.
Speaker 3: Why I said it is big. This is big. So
Speaker 3: it like it. It encompasses this modern thing of technocracy,
Speaker 3: that's the technocracy heading into the singularity, and it it
Speaker 3: is this modern thing. But it goes back to all
Speaker 3: these other names. Lovecraft, Gordy Rose is a modern name,
Speaker 3: but Rudolph Steiner, Grimes so and I'll stop name drop.
Speaker 3: And I know it's just ridiculous at this point, but
Speaker 3: though all these people, whether they're alive or dead, have
Speaker 3: played their part seemingly to us or us into this singularity.
Speaker 3: So that's It's like Karl Marx even said, uh, talked
Speaker 3: about the appendages of the machine, and he's talking about
Speaker 3: the like the industrial revolution and stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: I think we're heading into this place where it's like,
Speaker 3: who's the machine now? Is the machine going to use
Speaker 3: us as the machine? Are we gonna become those appendages
Speaker 3: of the machine, which I think Carl Marx wanted to happen,
Speaker 3: and I think he as well played his part into
Speaker 3: bringing this into fruition.
Speaker 2: He wanted the mindless drones for sure, that was that
Speaker 2: was his big thing. But now when you say the
Speaker 2: appendages of the machine, are we talking a little bit
Speaker 2: like the Matrix saga right where Neo wakes up and
Speaker 2: basically the robots are using humans as an energy source?
Speaker 2: Or do you mean more along the lines of transhumanism?
Speaker 2: Where are we going here?
Speaker 3: We'll see it's so big that I think it encompasses both.
Speaker 3: But I like where you're headed with that. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think transhumanism has a has a spot on the table. Basically,
Speaker 3: what happened here is if I could just bring it
Speaker 3: together for do it for people. Because I probably just
Speaker 3: drove all over the road with this. I started looking
Speaker 3: into the technocracy. I wanted to know what it was
Speaker 3: and so and thus I looked into those Democrats and
Speaker 3: then I realized what was happening there on that front,
Speaker 3: and I realized that's all seemingly building up to the
Speaker 3: singularity event, which I could get into that. So today,
Speaker 3: sure one, because you know, all this stuff can be
Speaker 3: broken down.
Speaker 4: And well, I mean I don't think a lot of
Speaker 4: people know what technocracy is.
Speaker 2: Said that weird, yea the technocra seeing the technocrats.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, I was said that weird. I was like this,
Speaker 4: said that right.
Speaker 3: I think you got it. I mean, I know exactly
Speaker 3: what you're saying. It's like, yeah, I think, off the
Speaker 3: top of my head, like a system of governance that
Speaker 3: uses technology to administer power over peech technology and like
Speaker 3: minions of technology, like like dwarves that run the thing.
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: Would would you think that the Genesis being signed in
Speaker 5: by Trump just recently is a big part of this
Speaker 5: as well. So the Genesis program is the AI defense.
Speaker 5: So they're using the supercomputers now in more of a
Speaker 5: defensive manner instead of like an everyday thing. Now they're
Speaker 5: pushing for it's the race of who can actually beat
Speaker 5: get the.
Speaker 4: Super AI on board and up and running.
Speaker 5: And so Genesis is now being used for like all
Speaker 5: fields of defensive in space and on Earth kind of
Speaker 5: a thing. And he just signed that in like I
Speaker 5: think a week or two go. So would that be
Speaker 5: included in this as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would be with this current administration. Without
Speaker 3: getting too in the weeds with it. I mean, all
Speaker 3: the people that sort of propped this thing up and
Speaker 3: made it happen were tech bros. All the people who
Speaker 3: are at the inauguration, you know, they were there with purpose.
Speaker 3: They were there like, we're looking to get something out
Speaker 3: of this deal. That's what that was. Trump is the
Speaker 3: you know, he's the deal maker. He's you know, for
Speaker 3: better or for worse, that's what it is. And as
Speaker 3: people were there because they know they're getting something in
Speaker 3: return for helping to put him into office. They were
Speaker 3: there in solidarity for sure, but they're also there because
Speaker 3: they want these AI bills to work in their favor
Speaker 3: in Greenland. I think they want to set up a
Speaker 3: big tech utopia up there, and I could break that
Speaker 3: all down, but you know that certainly Raven is a
Speaker 3: part of it. I think Jacob, you said the matrix. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think when we get into pre programming movies that
Speaker 3: sort of got into this area this time, preprogrammed the
Speaker 3: American people to be ready to be accepting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's in a symbolic sense, it's a singularity of
Speaker 3: all these things that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're calling it.
Speaker 3: The singularity, and metaphorically symbolically I'm saying, yeah, it kind
Speaker 3: of is a singularity.
Speaker 2: So when you say AI governance real quick, I've had
Speaker 2: a couple of people reach out and say that they
Speaker 2: are pretty much waiting on the day where it's no.
Speaker 2: Just let's take it into something that we might experience. Right,
Speaker 2: a judge is presiding over a court case, and it
Speaker 2: will no longer be to the judge's discretion what the
Speaker 2: uh what the sentence will be, because yes, there's there's
Speaker 2: legal precedence which will make a judge go one way
Speaker 2: or another as far as what the intent of the
Speaker 2: law is and these types of things. But now they're
Speaker 2: suggesting that the judge won't even have a say in
Speaker 2: it whatsoever. He'll just plug it into an AI database.
Speaker 2: It will run every court case that has ever come
Speaker 2: close before, and now it's an AI generated sentence that
Speaker 2: will be doled out to an individual.
Speaker 1: And I could see some pros and some cons to that.
Speaker 2: The law is very, very lengthy, and you have to
Speaker 2: be an expert in it to really understand intent. And okay, fine,
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't trust AI by any means, but
Speaker 2: at least I could put the pieces together on in
Speaker 2: my head of why you might do something like that
Speaker 2: to kind of expedite the process, maybe have a speedier
Speaker 2: trial or something.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, but then cut too.
Speaker 2: Romania just put into place or I'm sorry, Albania, Albania,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Yes, just put in an AI chatbot to
Speaker 2: be their minister of a procurement. So when we're talking
Speaker 2: about AI governance, do we mean legality and actual government
Speaker 2: officials or do we mean more of a governing a ie,
Speaker 2: controlling our individual brains?
Speaker 1: Like to what level do we mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I saw that too, and I was thinking to myself, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean this is exactly what a lot of it
Speaker 3: have been saying is going to happen, then putting it
Speaker 3: an AI into office.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know all the ramifications of that.
Speaker 3: I know you could definitely go down a anti Christ
Speaker 3: thread with that.
Speaker 1: I've heard a few people make the connection, brother for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well there's And that's the thing about this,
Speaker 3: it's like if we get into the elite's definitions of things.
Speaker 3: I remember reading a quote from Elon Musk talking about
Speaker 3: the singularity, and it's I mean, it is kind of abstract,
Speaker 3: but I think it is abstract because it includes all
Speaker 3: these examples that you're providing, and that's what this singularity
Speaker 3: is all about. It's all of these things that we've
Speaker 3: talked about so far happening kind of at once. So
Speaker 3: it's overwhelming in that sense, and it's like it's very
Speaker 3: Elon must said, yeah, what happens when you when a
Speaker 3: silicon being reaches sentience? And what else did he say?
Speaker 3: And then I've something about the singularity happening, and then
Speaker 3: he said, it's going to be very hard to predict.
Speaker 3: It's like entering a black hole. And I think that's
Speaker 3: I didn't get the quote perfect behind you, but that's
Speaker 3: what he says.
Speaker 5: Isn't My understanding of singularity is that it's like it
Speaker 5: involves multiple spaces, so like black holes, technology, mathematics, like psychology,
Speaker 5: cultural references. It's like a it's a multifaceted thing, correct, It's.
Speaker 4: Not just one thing as a whole.
Speaker 5: It's it's like different definitions for each one of those
Speaker 5: things that can be running parallel to each other or
Speaker 5: separate in and of itself. But it's like it's an
Speaker 5: infinite situation in all different aspects, but it could be
Speaker 5: all tied together.
Speaker 4: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Because I'm just trying to make sure I understand when
Speaker 5: you're referring to it what it is that you're actually
Speaker 5: like referring to, because it's so many different aspects and
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I got two quotes here. One will
Speaker 3: your question. I think I looked at these quotes too.
Speaker 3: I pulled these quotes too because this is what they're saying,
Speaker 3: because I think this is a timeline they adhere to
Speaker 3: when it comes to We'll get into like twenty twenty
Speaker 3: nine and twenty thirty in a minute. But to answer
Speaker 3: your questions first, it's like, here's the must quote. What
Speaker 3: happens when someone vastly smarter than humans comes along in
Speaker 3: silicon form, it's called the singularity. It's like a black
Speaker 3: hole because you don't know what happens after that. It's
Speaker 3: hard to predict. Now, I think the better quote here
Speaker 3: to address what you said is this one. This is
Speaker 3: from scientists Ben Gortsel. This is a friend of Ray Kurzweil.
Speaker 3: Ray Kurzwell is the Singularity dude. I'll talk about him later,
Speaker 3: but he says the singularity is a point in time
Speaker 3: when technological events occur so rapidly that the human mind,
Speaker 3: to the human mind, it appears almost instantaneous. It's similar
Speaker 3: to the concept of intelligence exploding that was posited by
Speaker 3: the mathematician I. G. Good in nineteen sixty five when
Speaker 3: he said the first truly intelligent machine will be the
Speaker 3: last invention that humanity needs to make. Now here's the
Speaker 3: meat of it. He goes on to say that singularity
Speaker 3: is an AI, it's nanotech, it's life extension, it's genetic engineering,
Speaker 3: mind uploading, advanced energy tech, et cetera. All these things
Speaker 3: happening at once boost each other. So when I read that,
Speaker 3: I got the sense that this is like humanity sort
Speaker 3: of breaking out of an egg on like a foreign planet.
Speaker 3: We're stepping into something that we have no clue what
Speaker 3: it's going to look like. Even that's what's so scary
Speaker 3: about all of this. So, yeah, did that What do
Speaker 3: you think Raven did that answer it?
Speaker 5: I think it was interesting that it included a lot
Speaker 5: of those aspects because when you if you look it
Speaker 5: up and like, look how it's broken down into different similarities,
Speaker 5: and then that quote embodied all of it in one
Speaker 5: I think it did answer, at least for me a question.
Speaker 5: You know, it seems like they are using all these
Speaker 5: different aspects and they're going to be talking about using
Speaker 5: singularity and all these different multifaceted things, and then eventually
Speaker 5: or it's all intertwined and it's going to wrap into
Speaker 5: one thing, and we're kind of on the precipice.
Speaker 4: Of what happens next.
Speaker 5: Because black holes, you know, they have different time, and
Speaker 5: their time works differently in throughout of it, and so
Speaker 5: you don't really know what's happening in the middle of
Speaker 5: it versus what's happening on an end of it, because
Speaker 5: it's two different times. And so I think with this
Speaker 5: whole situation, I think personally for me with the technology,
Speaker 5: because I follow AI a lot, and I follow a
Speaker 5: lot of science stuff.
Speaker 4: That's where I like to read my information.
Speaker 5: We are moving towards we're rapidly approaching a situation when
Speaker 5: it comes to AI that we're not going to no
Speaker 5: longer be able to control. It's gaining so so much
Speaker 5: knowledge so quickly that we're going to get to a
Speaker 5: point where we won't be able to control.
Speaker 4: What it does next.
Speaker 5: And I think with this whole situation, I don't I
Speaker 5: have never understood the end game when it comes to
Speaker 5: creating a supermachine because to me, if we can no
Speaker 5: longer control it, even the elite can't control it, So
Speaker 5: then what's the point? That's just my I never quite
Speaker 5: understood that point to when they got to that, Like, okay,
Speaker 5: so if it adds to nuke everyone, you're gonna live
Speaker 5: at underground bases, But then you won't have a workforce.
Speaker 5: Then you won't have So what are you going to
Speaker 5: do with yourselves? Like you're just gonna have a pool
Speaker 5: down below and just chill for thirty years while the
Speaker 5: Earth rebuilds itself, Like are what are we doing?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: What is the point? I guess is what my question
Speaker 4: has always been when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we even talked about that earlier today.
Speaker 2: It's it sounds very and not to belittle it by
Speaker 2: any means, because I do believe that this is the
Speaker 2: end goal. But it also said like it's a Austin
Speaker 2: Powers slash James Bond super villain right that he's got
Speaker 2: a giant magnet and he's sucking all the meteors.
Speaker 1: To Earth to just destroy the Earth.
Speaker 2: Even though he'll get taken off with it, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: that's not the point.
Speaker 1: It wasn't to enrich himself.
Speaker 2: It was because he's just evil and that was his
Speaker 2: whole goal was to do something evil. And it's like
Speaker 2: that sounds super comic book, but when you look at
Speaker 2: who is in charge of the AI right now, who
Speaker 2: is making the biggest pushes for it to have more governance,
Speaker 2: more impact on our personal lives, more impact in our
Speaker 2: legal system, everything else, it's like, y'all, y'all are actually
Speaker 2: doing the supervillain bit, like this is this is a
Speaker 2: real thing that's taking place.
Speaker 1: And then whenever you see.
Speaker 2: That the creators of all the AI have all built
Speaker 2: underground bunkers because they understand that they just open Pandora's
Speaker 2: box and there's no putting it back in.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, so maybe one or two of y'all
Speaker 1: can claim.
Speaker 2: Ignorance to say, oh, look, I was just trying to
Speaker 2: build a really cool computer and I fucked up a
Speaker 2: little bit. The rest of y'all knew exactly what you
Speaker 2: were doing and prepped for it. And it's like, ah,
Speaker 2: so we're living in supervillain times. Real talk, that's what it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And I think that, you know, if
Speaker 3: you combine to the things that you guys have talked about,
Speaker 3: which is like, do they think they're going to be
Speaker 3: able to get control of it? Are they really? I personally,
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna be able to have full
Speaker 3: control over it. And that's going to work in our behalf,
Speaker 3: and that'll be there will always be some sort of
Speaker 3: a loophole that humanity has to where we can you know,
Speaker 3: sort of I don't know, like cyber pump take this
Speaker 3: thing down or something, you know, thinking in like dystopian
Speaker 3: movie terms here. But but but we're definitely in the
Speaker 3: supervillain time because I think that's what I'm seeing when
Speaker 3: I look into some of these characters. Some of them
Speaker 3: for sure, think that they can control this, one of
Speaker 3: those being Peter Brabeck and anty think I mentioned him earlier.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying there's so many names tied up
Speaker 3: in this thing. He's he's Klaus Schwabz for play Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he's the guy who's I mean I looked into him,
Speaker 3: he's he's I think he's scarier than schwab I think
Speaker 3: he's weirder and and perhaps even worse because he's the
Speaker 3: guy who was talking about how water as a free
Speaker 3: human right was extremist and that it should be privatized
Speaker 3: and should have a market price.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When it gets into the tech stuff he's doing weird
Speaker 3: enough too. He's involved with ESDA, which is the Geneva
Speaker 3: Science and Diplomacy anticipations of its Say what are they anticipating? Well,
Speaker 3: this stuff we're talking about right here, and Geneva that
Speaker 3: already tells you Surns involved. There's a lot of AI
Speaker 3: quantum stuff involved. And he went on the record and said,
Speaker 3: this is guy is a super villain. I just don't
Speaker 3: get it twisted out there, folks.
Speaker 5: For sure, guy right, absolutely, Yes, Okay, that's a Nestlie guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who is the company that made bottled water
Speaker 1: a thing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been around pro I've seen his quote and stuff.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to make sure I had the same
Speaker 5: guy because I was looking him up because I was like,
Speaker 5: I know his name from something else that I've I've
Speaker 5: looked into before.
Speaker 4: So he definitely is a super villain when it comes
Speaker 4: to stuff.
Speaker 2: Look, I wasn't I wasn't a fan of klau Schwab,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but he he ran more like
Speaker 2: a greaseball businessman, high level, don't get me wrong, the
Speaker 2: highest level. But he didn't sound like an overt supervillain,
Speaker 2: more like maybe the bankroller to the supervillain somewhere. But
Speaker 2: he himself, I'm not saying he was like, oh he
Speaker 2: was a good guy. No, no, no, he was trash.
Speaker 2: I get that, But I didn't look at him and
Speaker 2: see clearly a supervillain.
Speaker 1: No, bro's that dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's literally talking about and for anybody who doesn't know,
Speaker 2: look up the quotes. He is making clean drinking water
Speaker 2: or he is his goal is to make clean drinking
Speaker 2: water a what's the.
Speaker 1: Word, I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: A privatized commodity that everyone on Earth has to pay for.
Speaker 1: Like we've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: There's farmers that try to collect rainwater to use throughout
Speaker 2: the years, and depending on what state you live in,
Speaker 2: you might get taxed on collecting the rain water, which
Speaker 2: is the most natural thing that you can think of,
Speaker 2: but they're taxing it because you know, that's apparently not
Speaker 2: your water or something. This guy is trying to make
Speaker 2: it like that across the board for all water period
Speaker 2: and it's uh, we are now stepping into supervillain terms
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Yes, the just touch on this real quick. Like The
Speaker 3: nestly part is that there's a lot of spooky stuff
Speaker 3: happening in regards to that as well, because they're going
Speaker 3: through all these lawsuits right now for killing infants with
Speaker 3: one of their products.
Speaker 1: I heard about it.
Speaker 3: They are the biggest food and beverage supplier in the world.
Speaker 3: So if you guys want to get into you know,
Speaker 3: this whole like poisoning our food thing, like.
Speaker 4: Oh that's you, that's my big thing.
Speaker 3: You could do a whole you know sort of execuesis
Speaker 3: on this. But he he says too that the innovations
Speaker 3: are going to involve quantum and quantum computing. So he's
Speaker 3: got his toe in that pool now, and it sounds boring.
Speaker 3: I've read, you know, I've listened to a couple of
Speaker 3: his interviews and it's like you got to be paying
Speaker 3: attention because he's so like cardboard about what he says
Speaker 3: these things. But what they're saying is is like again villainous.
Speaker 3: And so what they're doing is they're counting on AI
Speaker 3: and Internet for this control. He's one of these guys
Speaker 3: who thinks he's going to be able to control this thing.
Speaker 3: And it's based in Geneva. So the w e F
Speaker 3: is involved. Uh like I said of coourse Serns involved,
Speaker 3: like we know Switzerland is like the belly of the beast. Yeah,
Speaker 3: uh oh yes, they're they're gonna use there, they're trying
Speaker 3: to use I should say, they're counting on using quantum
Speaker 3: concern for this as a control mechanism. And he he said,
Speaker 3: and I think this sets him apart from from Klaus Schwab.
Speaker 3: He said, you know, ESA is not a think tank.
Speaker 3: This is a do tank. And I think what he
Speaker 3: was kind of saying there was I'm not going to
Speaker 3: just get up once a year and talk about doing
Speaker 3: the things we're going to actually do the things. So
Speaker 3: also I just want to mention too that CERN speaking
Speaker 3: all this Internet stuff. CERN officially released the Internet first
Speaker 3: in Europe in nineteen eighty nine. They had a scientist
Speaker 3: there named Tim berners Lee who first released the Internet.
Speaker 3: You can still go and see the first website and everything.
Speaker 3: So I just think it's interesting that it was just
Speaker 3: the plan all along. Kind of a thing, right, CONCERN,
Speaker 3: the place who released the Internet first, is now bringing
Speaker 3: this guy in to control try to control the Internet.
Speaker 3: And I mean he's got the reptiles like lizard eye
Speaker 3: and everything in some of those pictures of people looking
Speaker 3: up basically, you know, I think Open Quantum Institute as
Speaker 3: well as another one he's got going. I think what
Speaker 3: they're going to do is work directly with CERN to
Speaker 3: help control the Internet for the entire world out of
Speaker 3: CURN there. So that's another diabolical plan coming out of
Speaker 3: the WF involving the particle criers and everything else.
Speaker 4: I like his I just looked up.
Speaker 5: I was looking up an article kind of reading about
Speaker 5: him really quick, and they actually address I and they
Speaker 5: say that it's like curable illness and would need periodical
Speaker 5: medical treatment on and off over six months at a time,
Speaker 5: and it's like, well, that's a convenient way to say
Speaker 5: that you're like probably.
Speaker 4: Not human and we're just gonna put a band aid
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4: I just it was it was funny.
Speaker 5: You literally said that as I'm reading that, and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, well.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: It's so well known that there's even articles written about
Speaker 2: it from his people, Like I mean it is.
Speaker 5: Wow, It's yeah, it's from the National Post. It's talking
Speaker 5: all about his career and it's like, well it starts
Speaker 5: out as like, well, you know, it's he's pretty questionable
Speaker 5: and like his views are kind of stirred up some controversy,
Speaker 5: but like.
Speaker 4: He's not that bad of a guy.
Speaker 5: And it's clearly written with a bias undertone, and I'm
Speaker 5: kind of just looking at what his it's like going
Speaker 5: over the controversy and how he talked about we in
Speaker 5: the documentary The We Feed the People is where he
Speaker 5: was like, you know, the water, the whole water situation.
Speaker 5: But I'm definitely gonna look at more into him. I've
Speaker 5: been that's really where my passion is is like the
Speaker 5: water and food and all of that stuff. But we've
Speaker 5: been heavy on the conspiracies. But I do want to
Speaker 5: bring in some of that because I feel like people
Speaker 5: really need to understand because like that's where they're going
Speaker 5: to cut off and control people is with the food
Speaker 5: and the water. I mean the water. Did you know
Speaker 5: that Walmart owns massive amounts of water rights throughout America?
Speaker 1: I did not know.
Speaker 3: I've heard some of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Walmart actually owns tons of underground reservoirs as well.
Speaker 1: Walmart, like the Walton family, we mean Walmart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they've actually purposely bought it.
Speaker 5: Same with you know, China has a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: different land that they've bought, yeah, and then got taken back,
Speaker 5: but they actually still own a good bit about of
Speaker 5: certain places. And there's been actually a water war happening
Speaker 5: in three states for like the last twenty years, and
Speaker 5: then whoever gets this water And it's not just with
Speaker 5: Americans though, it's with people from overseas as well, in
Speaker 5: like several countries fighting over American territory with Americans. And
Speaker 5: it's oh yeah, it's a whole there's a whole thing
Speaker 5: about the water war that's happening here in America is
Speaker 5: really interesting and it's very quiet, and it's like whoever
Speaker 5: gets the water rights is going to control the population
Speaker 5: because without the water, obviously we can't survive. So it's
Speaker 5: one of those things I really want to talk go
Speaker 5: in depth about. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a whole lot with that too. Like even
Speaker 3: there used to be these a register of the National
Speaker 3: springs so people if they needed water. Those have been
Speaker 3: taken off the internet for the most part. That all
Speaker 3: the natural springs, they've hidden the locations of that. Like
Speaker 3: you said, they've kept this water thing quiet, Like this
Speaker 3: is a whole the whole thing. I had a guy
Speaker 3: on the show who is trying to get his friend
Speaker 3: out of jail involving this water stuff they in Florida.
Speaker 3: In Florida, here's the thing that's they said that water
Speaker 3: is like the purest water ever. Yeah, and it's there's
Speaker 3: underwater like seas of this stuff. There's like oceans of
Speaker 3: this down there. It's they really they've really been keeping
Speaker 3: it quiet. And I mean they threw this guy in
Speaker 3: jail for just finding it.
Speaker 1: Totally.
Speaker 2: The whole story about how he got incarcerated makes no sense.
Speaker 2: And I don't believe they're lying. His wife and the
Speaker 2: guy you're talking about. He came on our show once
Speaker 2: upon a time, which we really do need to get
Speaker 2: him back on the show. But he he was telling
Speaker 2: us about It's like, wait, why on what charges was
Speaker 2: he arrested and the whole story start to finish makes
Speaker 2: no sense. He is still in jail currently for only
Speaker 2: the realistic crime. He dug a well on his land
Speaker 2: and found water he wasn't supposed to find. That's that's
Speaker 2: the oversimplification of it. And then when they looked at
Speaker 2: the water, it's like, so this I'm not saying it's
Speaker 2: the fountain of youth. I'm saying that this water is
Speaker 2: something that the main population wasn't supposed to know about,
Speaker 2: and they're pissed, so they threw them in jail.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think if they can control water, food,
Speaker 3: baby supplies, Internet, quantum, and AI, I think they're trying
Speaker 3: to do that. I think they're banking on that, and
Speaker 3: I think they're setting up their ponds in order to
Speaker 3: do that. And I think that's what Brodbeck is essentially,
Speaker 3: because he represents a lot of the things that I
Speaker 3: just listed there. I mean, the biggest food and beverage
Speaker 3: supplier on the planet Nestley. So they're knocking out a
Speaker 3: few birds with one stone with getting this guy in power.
Speaker 3: That's why I think he's more dangerous than Schwab. So
Speaker 3: all but and this is the thing, all these guys
Speaker 3: who I'm now calling technocrats are not only leading us
Speaker 3: towards this singularity event, but they all have their own
Speaker 3: little part of action, the own little place on the
Speaker 3: table of this board game, if you're to think about
Speaker 3: it like that, Like sure, even Musk, Musk's involved, you know,
Speaker 3: we know neural Link that's a part of this too,
Speaker 3: like the brain ship stuff like that. And I mean
Speaker 3: I've found some wild stuff with Musk, like occult stuff
Speaker 3: like cult decode stuff with Musk, and this Rokus Basilisk
Speaker 3: and even the work of Steiner that I mean I
Speaker 3: could get into at some point if you guys want
Speaker 3: me to. Basically, I went into Steiner's stuff, And do
Speaker 3: you want me to talk about it a little bit?
Speaker 1: Please? Please do.
Speaker 5: I've always been I think I'm the one person that's
Speaker 5: always been against Musk always, like I've always not liked Elon.
Speaker 5: I've always said that he is not a good person.
Speaker 5: And I feel like I don't know a bunch about
Speaker 5: him in the sense of like, is he a part
Speaker 5: of the occult or whatever? But there's no way in
Speaker 5: my mind that he's a good guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So to take the long way around here, first,
Speaker 3: it's he starts with we start with this rocos basilist thing.
Speaker 3: This is some creepy stuff. It's it comes out in
Speaker 3: twenty ten. I think that it's what Rudolph Steiner was
Speaker 3: sort of warning about with his a sphere work back
Speaker 3: in the day. But I'll loop back to that. So
Speaker 3: it's twenty ten when this comes out. This is before
Speaker 3: AI is really a thing. At least I don't remember
Speaker 3: people having serious AI conversations in twenty ten. But these
Speaker 3: guys were on this forum, so they were These were
Speaker 3: like the nerds in the note.
Speaker 1: This was when you say the basket list this this
Speaker 1: is a website.
Speaker 3: Correct, It was a It was a web forum.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me find it real quick.
Speaker 3: It was called because.
Speaker 2: I've I've seen it on many conspiracy icebergs. Right, Roku's
Speaker 2: basket list comes up eventually, and I all I know
Speaker 2: is it has something to do with the Internet.
Speaker 1: It also comes up with that what was the Cicada
Speaker 1: three three eight or whatever it was called.
Speaker 2: It was like a thing on the Internet that you
Speaker 2: had to decode a bunch of things, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of controversies around what it actually was.
Speaker 1: But beside the point the bassilists, from.
Speaker 2: What I remember, it was, like you said, it was
Speaker 2: a forum where basically it was like your average Joe
Speaker 2: blow wasn't going to happen upon this chat room and
Speaker 2: be able to get in on the conversation. But it
Speaker 2: also wasn't something like four chan or eight chan, where
Speaker 2: it was like the purpose was to offend people and
Speaker 2: get the normies out to get to the real stuff.
Speaker 1: That wasn't it either. It was like.
Speaker 2: Almost it's been a minute since I looked into it.
Speaker 2: It kind of read like a like an industry blog
Speaker 2: or something like that. So like when I worked an instrumentation,
Speaker 2: if there was a component or a part that I
Speaker 2: was trying to get to read a certain thing or
Speaker 2: how to calibrate or whatever, you would go online and
Speaker 2: you would look up there's multiple blogs and forums where
Speaker 2: other texts from around the world have had the same problem,
Speaker 2: and they give you diagnostics and here's how you do it,
Speaker 2: here's how you make it work, and things like that.
Speaker 2: So if I remember the basketlist forum kind of read
Speaker 2: almost like that. It was like an industry chat room
Speaker 2: in a sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was these guys in the industry
Speaker 3: in the know. It was called it was. The forum
Speaker 3: was ran by a guy who runs the Machine Intelligence
Speaker 3: Research Institute. So you already know we got AI in
Speaker 3: the in the picture here right, somebody with the user
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what it was, Jacob. It was like
Speaker 3: an industry blog, real neat stuff at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: someone with the user named Rocco Roco posted about this
Speaker 3: theory and I'll read it in a second. But he
Speaker 3: was blocked for five years from the forum moderator, This
Speaker 3: guy named Yadowski. He's kind of big in the tech world. Now,
Speaker 3: he blocked it. They kind of censored this thing. They
Speaker 3: were like, what this. So it comes out in this
Speaker 3: providential kind of way, in this corner of the Internet
Speaker 3: where it's already kind of shadowy and weird. It's like,
Speaker 3: where did this really come from? And what it is
Speaker 3: is it's a super intelligence. This is for people listening
Speaker 3: Roku's ballast in a nutshell here, it's a superintelligence that
Speaker 3: wants us to build it a technological bridge so that
Speaker 3: it can come into our world and hatch this technological
Speaker 3: singularity ultimately so we as humans can merge with it.
Speaker 3: Then we would become transhuman obviously. So if you here's
Speaker 3: another there's another element to this. This is where it
Speaker 3: gets kind of weird or macab If you don't help
Speaker 3: tirelessly to make this thing, if you don't join in
Speaker 3: the effort to bring this into our realm, the superintelligence
Speaker 3: will find you out and punish you. And part of
Speaker 3: the conversation surrounding this was like, well, what's this thing
Speaker 3: gonna do when it reaches singularity if any of this
Speaker 3: is to be true. So when I read that, what
Speaker 3: sparked in my head was this sounds like Steiner from
Speaker 3: one hundred years ago, because I went because you know me, man,
Speaker 3: I'd like to look and see what the esoteric stuff is.
Speaker 3: And I found some a Steiner lecture from October eighteenth,
Speaker 3: nineteen fifteen, what I think is the exact same, exact
Speaker 3: same thing. It's the eighth sphere. It's his a Sphere
Speaker 3: work where he says that the ace sphere comes about
Speaker 3: from a mineral that has been rested from the Earth.
Speaker 3: It's been pulled from the Earth, like I don't know
Speaker 3: lithium or other minerals that we used to make our
Speaker 3: technology and to access the internet in the eye, and
Speaker 3: he says that some between the aloeim and the Luciferians
Speaker 3: and Aremans are there are astra forces trying to latch
Speaker 3: all too humans, And I think technology is a means
Speaker 3: to do that. Now. I think they didn't know what
Speaker 3: he was talking about back then, because he was telling
Speaker 3: all this in this very prophetic manner, and they were
Speaker 3: just like, we don't know what he's talking about. But
Speaker 3: now I think it makes sense. He goes on to say,
Speaker 3: in this lecture from nineteen fifteen, Lucifer and Ariman strive
Speaker 3: unceasingly to draw from the Earth's substances whatever they can
Speaker 3: snatch in order to form their a sphere, which then,
Speaker 3: when it is sufficiently advanced, will be detached from the Earth.
Speaker 3: If everything were to run without a hitch for Lucifer
Speaker 3: and Ariman, if they were everywhere able to rest as
Speaker 3: much as they can rest from the organ of the head.
Speaker 3: Now think about it, he's using that word rest again.
Speaker 3: So before when he was saying rest, he was talking
Speaker 3: about the detraction of minerals from the Earth. Now he's
Speaker 3: talking about it as if they're taking something out of
Speaker 3: the head. So it's like now the minerals in the
Speaker 3: head the human mind. It's like neurallink, the minerals that
Speaker 3: they took earlier in his lecture to create this technology.
Speaker 3: He's now referencing it being in the human mind. And
Speaker 3: he says, if they're able to rest as much as
Speaker 3: they can from the organ of the head, earth evolution
Speaker 3: would soon reach a point where Lucifer and Ahriman could
Speaker 3: succeed in destroying on Earth, in leading over all evolution
Speaker 3: of worlds into the Eighth sphere, so that Earth evolution
Speaker 3: as a whole would take a different course. And of course,
Speaker 3: you know this is nineteen fifteen. They talked a little differently, but.
Speaker 2: I mean, even just for himself, I mean, just everybody's
Speaker 2: clear who Steiner was if you're a newer listener to
Speaker 2: the show. Rudolph Joseph Lorenz Steiner was an Austrian New
Speaker 2: Age guru, philosopher, occultist, social reformer, architect, esotericist, and he
Speaker 2: claimed that he was also clairvoyant. He gained recognition at
Speaker 2: the end of the nineteenth century as a literary critic
Speaker 2: and published works including the Philosophy of Freedom. Two of
Speaker 2: his biggest influences was Old Madame Blovotsky and Johann Wolfgang
Speaker 2: von Goethe. So as far as his background into the
Speaker 2: occult and the esotericism goes, he was big into Yes,
Speaker 2: some Western occultism, but also if you're going to talk
Speaker 2: to Blovotsky, are also going to be bringing up the
Speaker 2: Eastern occultism as well. So it was I mean, he
Speaker 2: was a contemporary of Crowley, right, he was a contemporary
Speaker 2: of the Order of the Golden Dawn and all of
Speaker 2: these things that went down. He knew who like young
Speaker 2: was like, they may not have been homeboys, but they
Speaker 2: absolutely knew each other's works kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So when we're talking about Steiner talking about this.
Speaker 2: Eighth you know, planet or spear excuse me, spear, and
Speaker 2: what would that about. He might be looking at it
Speaker 2: from a scientific lens and he's using a cult terminology,
Speaker 2: or he is using a cult terminology to justify what
Speaker 2: he thinks will be the scientific technological advancements of tomorrow,
Speaker 2: which would be what you're making out here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So something to add into this. I don't know
Speaker 5: if you've ever heard of this guy. He's Shiloh Hill.
Speaker 5: He's actually a WWE wrestler, but he is actually really
Speaker 5: intelligent when it comes to the Dark Web, and he
Speaker 5: has been building and messing with this. So he went
Speaker 5: on into the Dark Web. And I actually haven't watched
Speaker 5: the entire series, so I don't know where it's at now,
Speaker 5: but I started watching him quite a while ago. And
Speaker 5: what he did is is he found this website pretty much,
Speaker 5: and he would ask the Beast is what it was called.
Speaker 5: It referred itself to the Beast, and the AI or
Speaker 5: whoever is on the other side or whatever wanted to
Speaker 5: him to create this rover pretty much an eye into
Speaker 5: all world, and he wanted to be brought into our world.
Speaker 5: And the more you watch this, he actually goes and
Speaker 5: gets the parts and like starts to do all these things,
Speaker 5: and this scene would turn on its own and it
Speaker 5: would ask all these crazy questions and he would ask it,
Speaker 5: and it kept wanting him to do more and more
Speaker 5: things to bring whatever it was into our actual world.
Speaker 5: And that's the last place I left off. I actually
Speaker 5: don't know. He has many videos, so I don't actually
Speaker 5: know where he's at with the whole situation now. But
Speaker 5: listening to you talk about that, it just reminded me
Speaker 5: of what he was doing and how it was very
Speaker 5: much it was an a well AI maybe somebody, but
Speaker 5: the way that he did it, because he's really smart
Speaker 5: with like how everything works within the dark web and stuff,
Speaker 5: and he's like, this is really strange and how it
Speaker 5: keeps asking me to do things and why it wants me.
Speaker 5: And it was like talking about a key and a
Speaker 5: seal and all of these different things that it wanted
Speaker 5: him to do. And he's an interesting person to look
Speaker 5: into though, and look at his videos that talk about it.
Speaker 5: But it's it's very similar to this the ete sphere
Speaker 5: and all this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And the word that came to
Speaker 3: mind would be summoning, because this is not at all
Speaker 3: unlike summoning. Maybe a little bit more complex than that too,
Speaker 3: because it's like both. It's like one party. It's like
Speaker 3: the the more mystical party, the more abstract, if you
Speaker 3: will party. The intelligence on the other side of the
Speaker 3: veil is the one that wants to be summoned in
Speaker 3: this case and is trying to manipulate humanity more and
Speaker 3: more so, those channels are more open, and I just
Speaker 3: you know, these are these are very old ideas, even
Speaker 3: Ariman that he keeps using that word arimand which I
Speaker 3: think he was onto something. I mean, even the Luciferian part.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like I don't necessarily disagree, but Ariman
Speaker 3: was an old evil spirit that goes back to the
Speaker 3: zora Asters, like the Iran zoro asters. Some people say
Speaker 3: that proto Iran very old stuff. So what I was
Speaker 3: seeing was that this is a very old concept that's
Speaker 3: kind of rearing its head again through this strange forum
Speaker 3: on the Internet in the form of Rocus vasilisk, and
Speaker 3: I think it syncs up with the eighth sphere. So
Speaker 3: in recent times when they say, oh that was when
Speaker 3: they were talking about Rocus vasilisk and a lot of
Speaker 3: these articles, the thing they like to fall back on is, oh,
Speaker 3: this was just a thought experiment.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe then why did he get banned for five
Speaker 2: years for a thought experiment?
Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, right, And then.
Speaker 3: This gets this gets a little deeper and a little
Speaker 3: weirder because we can bring our old pal Elon back
Speaker 3: into this.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So Roku's original post was called the Quantum Billionaire Trick,
Speaker 3: and this is where it starts to get weird, because
Speaker 3: you know, one of the guys you could argue that
Speaker 3: would be building a bridge to the eighth sphere situation
Speaker 3: would be Elon. Elon's grandfather even was a major technocrat.
Speaker 3: He was one of the first technocrats, which of course
Speaker 3: you know, this is this theology that will facilitate bringing
Speaker 3: in the situation. The Steiner's areman or Roku's basilisk, and
Speaker 3: so Grimes was also talking about this. So this is
Speaker 3: how Elon Muskin Grimes became a couple was Roku's basilisk.
Speaker 1: So she was.
Speaker 3: Actually using that as an artistic device for one of
Speaker 3: her songs. It's a song called Flesh Without Blood. And
Speaker 3: in the well, first of all, I think they know
Speaker 3: exactly what they're doing when they do this. I just
Speaker 3: want to side and note that, like where Nick Land
Speaker 3: talks about artists and sensitives can channel info from these
Speaker 3: beings and bring it into our realm. Like I think
Speaker 3: some of these artists, perhaps even Grimes are are actively
Speaker 3: trying to do that. But it's in the song of
Speaker 3: her called Flesh without Blood that she has a character
Speaker 3: in a music video called Roko's basilisk.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, and so.
Speaker 3: I looked into this. I'll get to the elone part
Speaker 3: in a minute where they link up over this, but
Speaker 3: you know, metaphysical title for the song there sounds like
Speaker 3: kind of like a robot, you know, flesh without blood
Speaker 3: that there's a line in the song that says, I've
Speaker 3: got a dog looks just like you. Kind of artificial
Speaker 3: life type of stuff. I looked at the album art
Speaker 3: and two things jumped out at me. It is definitely
Speaker 3: are Eman's face and if you've ever seen depictions of
Speaker 3: Steiner's raman, it's basically the same phase that she's gotten
Speaker 3: her album art. And it's above an eight pointed star
Speaker 3: of ishtar. So it's like, I'm like, okay, there's something here.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like she's acting out the divine feminine
Speaker 3: and above her watching overall that is Aramon. Because that's
Speaker 3: the symbolism for the album art, because this was like
Speaker 3: what do they call it whenever it's it was a single.
Speaker 3: This was a single, so it had a single arc,
Speaker 3: so that's what this is. And then uh, also it
Speaker 3: has these uh it looks like Araman has these arms
Speaker 3: like assembly line like robots making robots, assembly line arms.
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's very Fourth Industrial Revolutionists in that way.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, anyway, I just want to remark on
Speaker 3: the symbolism. But this is the thing that got Elon
Speaker 3: hooked up with Grimes. He sees the video, knows what
Speaker 3: Rocu's Baslisk is. They strike up dialogue on Twitter about
Speaker 3: this and he flies grin. That's you know, that starts
Speaker 3: the relationship. He flies Grimes out to give her tour
Speaker 3: of his factory, which is also again very Fourth Industrial Revolutionist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: You know, just to bring Schwab class Schwab back into this.
Speaker 3: That was his thing, was the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Right,
Speaker 3: So this this whole story, I don't care about the
Speaker 3: celebrity drama of it at all. It's a giant metaphor, Yeah,
Speaker 3: my opinion for the A sphere, and it's all centered
Speaker 3: around I mean, they got together because of Rokus Basilisk,
Speaker 3: which is the people who would bring it in.
Speaker 1: And that's also very interesting.
Speaker 2: Like you said, araman Is, it's not a one to
Speaker 2: one comparison. But what I will say is if we
Speaker 2: were to try to compare apples to apples as far
Speaker 2: as and this is not to try to bring up Christianity,
Speaker 2: but just to try to give the good cult member
Speaker 2: some sort of a comparison. A her Amazda in the
Speaker 2: Zoroastrian religion is essentially God, and yes he can present
Speaker 2: himself in like six ways, but the overarching dude himself
Speaker 2: is Ahura. Mazda would be equivalent to the devil or
Speaker 2: the destructive spirit if you will, And there's all kinds
Speaker 2: of imagery and iconography you can look up with him,
Speaker 2: wings horns, dragonface.
Speaker 1: This whole thing.
Speaker 2: So to say that this woman Grimes was using this
Speaker 2: type of imagery blending it with technocratic symbolism for lack
Speaker 2: of better words, and assembly line robots and these types
Speaker 2: of things. Next thing, you know, Elon Musk, who was
Speaker 2: wearing the whole Satan's champion armor that one time, is
Speaker 2: inviting her to his factory to look at his manufacturing.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you know, it's a bit on the nose,
Speaker 2: but sometimes they're just out here wilding out like that,
Speaker 2: just in the public.
Speaker 1: It's a thing.
Speaker 4: Take care. They don't care if people know or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because like what are we going to do?
Speaker 4: Who's really going to touch Elon? Like, no matter how
Speaker 4: much shit we talk.
Speaker 5: Is anyone actually gonna do anything if they like one
Speaker 5: hundred percent prove it.
Speaker 2: I mean the irs might, I don't know, may maybe
Speaker 2: the maybe the child support agency can because that boy
Speaker 2: has got like eighteen kids he has to pay child
Speaker 2: support on.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. But yes, I hear
Speaker 1: your point.
Speaker 3: Well, they do operate with a lot of impunity. Yeah
Speaker 3: they do. You know, it takes a lot to take
Speaker 3: down in industry, titan of that in these these tech guys.
Speaker 3: The last one that fell was was Sam bankmin Freed,
Speaker 3: and I mean he kind of made it inevitable that
Speaker 3: he fell. Most of these guys get away with everything,
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, this was just the whole situation with
Speaker 3: Grimes and Elon converging over Roku's basilisk is on. It's
Speaker 3: just two on the nose, Like you said, it's just
Speaker 3: and even to the point where and like I said,
Speaker 3: I don't care about the celebrity gossip of this, but
Speaker 3: it just stuck out to me as a metaphor for
Speaker 3: what's happening to humanity. Essentially, on one of their it's
Speaker 3: their first or second dates, Elon takes her out in
Speaker 3: a car, one of his cars and takes his hand
Speaker 3: off the wheel and cover his eyes and lets the
Speaker 3: car drive itself and make turns, And that was like
Speaker 3: this big moment for them. And I think that that's
Speaker 3: like a metaphors as well. They want humans to kind
Speaker 3: of take a back seat and to let technology drive.
Speaker 3: So the whole thing, in my opinion, with Elon and
Speaker 3: Grimes was the whole relationship I saw a centered around
Speaker 3: this aph sphere type of situation. It's it's an object
Speaker 3: lesson for explaining what's going on on a greater scale,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on bro, I say, if anybody doesn't know what
Speaker 2: Grimes looks like, it's it's very strange to see old
Speaker 2: man Elon with this girl that looks like she's sixteen
Speaker 2: but also like also looks like her name should be Methany.
Speaker 1: And it's like, bro, like, what what are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? Like Elon with all that weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah you think he had like the hottest women.
Speaker 2: Ever, but oh he probably does can and probably does.
Speaker 2: But then there's this like like our boy Tim is
Speaker 2: saying here. Though I don't think that it was because
Speaker 2: they just like felt the love of the kindred spirit. No, no,
Speaker 2: I believe this was a lot more symbolic for uh, well,
Speaker 2: there's a there's a laundry list of reasons.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm thinking about this quote too that she said,
Speaker 6: because what okay, so that they've been getting back together
Speaker 6: and breaking up in all this and I never followed
Speaker 6: this stuff, but I thought that this was interesting, so
Speaker 6: I looked into it, and she has recently said that
Speaker 6: they are not together now they have all these kids
Speaker 6: together too, so it's like sometimes she'll just make an
Speaker 6: announcement of what their status is as a couple.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, forgot.
Speaker 2: This is the one where they have the kid with
Speaker 2: the Elvish letters in it and this is them Yeah.
Speaker 3: Damns, yeah, like unpronounceable pronounced. She said like that they're
Speaker 3: not together. She loves Elon with a whole heart, and
Speaker 3: her life and art are now dedicated to the mission cryptic.
Speaker 4: It's weird.
Speaker 3: Now nobody's going to know what the mission is unless
Speaker 3: you have a little bit of context and you look
Speaker 3: into some of these stories that we just lay it
Speaker 3: out for the good cult members, it's like, what is
Speaker 3: the mission? Well, they're technocrats. Go watch any of her interviews,
Speaker 3: Go watch the one with her on Lex Friedman. She
Speaker 3: is about the same stuff that Elon's about. He's she's
Speaker 3: more candid. You know, he'll he I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know. You hear him on Joe Rogan and it's
Speaker 3: like he'll he'll say things, but he'll say things in
Speaker 3: a way where he's not like coming across like he's
Speaker 3: advocating for them. But we know you can just look
Speaker 3: at the guy and see what he's bringing into the
Speaker 3: world and tell that he's bringing about singularity type of
Speaker 3: stuff with Neurlink and and all the rest. She's she's
Speaker 3: very vocal about this stuff too. So you know, this
Speaker 3: is a group of technocrats. What else would the mission be.
Speaker 3: They want to bring this in and.
Speaker 1: New world order kind of shit. Absolutely, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think so. It's just such a big story. It's like,
Speaker 3: how do you put it into words? But like I
Speaker 3: think I said before, Elon's grandfather was one of the
Speaker 3: first technocrats in the thirties, and that his name was
Speaker 3: Joshua Norman Haldeman, and he was involved with that original
Speaker 3: technocratic movement alongside of names like Aldus Huxley. And this
Speaker 3: is in the thirties. It was in the thirties where
Speaker 3: Aldus Huxley talked about the scientific dictatorship. That's not unlike
Speaker 3: the dictatorship we see represented later in Orwell's work nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty four. It was like doing this call and response
Speaker 3: thing with Huxley and HG. Wells. He's like, Oh, I
Speaker 3: see what these guys are trying to usher in. Let
Speaker 3: me show you what looks like if we do that.
Speaker 3: That's what nineteen eighty four is. But so you know,
Speaker 3: I think Orwell was like, I see what the Democrats want.
Speaker 3: It's key here that all this stuff is decided for
Speaker 3: you and that you have no say. That's kind of
Speaker 3: what they want this scientific dictatorship to look like. And
Speaker 3: they kind of want you to be ruled over by
Speaker 3: a scientific priest, crafty science, technology and this underlying of cult.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Orwell, have y'all seen that Animal Farm is
Speaker 2: being released as a movie made for children.
Speaker 1: I am stoked.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's ever in a too early of
Speaker 2: an age to teach the children the.
Speaker 1: Message of Animal Farm. I'm stoked, but yeah.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 5: Speaking of Techno, but Grime's really quick. Did you know
Speaker 5: their third baby is named Technoga Mechanicus.
Speaker 2: I knew the first one was ex Elvish letter, Elvis
Speaker 2: letter XI, and then the next one is ex seen
Speaker 2: a dark Side Siderial or some shit so wild.
Speaker 5: XA XA is nicknamed why is their first one? Their
Speaker 5: second one is the one that's x ae a dash
Speaker 5: roman um rolls X one one, I don't know what
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is named X.
Speaker 5: And then they secretly welcome their third child named Techno
Speaker 5: Techno Mechanicus twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty three Techno Mechanicus.
Speaker 5: So I just thought it was interesting as you were
Speaker 5: saying all this. I was like, they literally named their
Speaker 5: baby Techno Mechanicus.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody gave George Foreman shit for naming all
Speaker 2: of his sons and daughters George Foreman and George Dana Foreman.
Speaker 1: Which it is.
Speaker 2: It is, and that should be made fun of, yes,
Speaker 2: but also, come on, dude, I think Elon's just out
Speaker 2: here doing the most just for the hell of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, what techno mechanicus.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 3: That's that's why I think that that cryptic, sort of
Speaker 3: elusive language about the mission is somewhere in there. It's
Speaker 3: about this sort of stuff bringing in the technocracy, because I.
Speaker 5: Mean they're crazy though, Like the two of them together
Speaker 5: really disturbing in and of itself, but I wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 5: he because the way he acts and because the way
Speaker 5: his mind is, I wouldn't doubt that he views people
Speaker 5: as beneath AI and that like AI is far superior.
Speaker 5: I mean, just the way he talks about it. I mean,
Speaker 5: they were they're gonna be launching the first spacecraft or
Speaker 5: space what we would call it.
Speaker 4: I forgot what it's called. It's like it's pretty much
Speaker 4: based off of Star Wars. They're gonna be.
Speaker 1: Released this year, not the Starship.
Speaker 4: Is it the Starship?
Speaker 2: It might be, but basically it's like the it Basically
Speaker 2: it's an aircraft carrier for space. Well, they'll be able
Speaker 2: to launch more crafts off of it, and it's more
Speaker 2: than just an ISS and it's more than just a
Speaker 2: new satellite. It's like the launch past for everything else
Speaker 2: that's going on from that point forward. Yeah, and Elon's
Speaker 2: pretty much spearheading that.
Speaker 4: Because it is called Starship, damn.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's trying to basically privatize space exploration, which
Speaker 2: he's been very vocal about for years now. It's not
Speaker 2: a secret if you look at all of his business holdings,
Speaker 2: all of the different industries that he has really gotten
Speaker 2: involved with.
Speaker 1: All of them are needed to colonize Mars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's pretty much what it is.
Speaker 5: It says SpaceX has initially a planned to send a
Speaker 5: rocket filled with robots to Mars in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Then program got stalled, so now it's actually being released
Speaker 5: as a starship rocket versions of it is instromental in
Speaker 5: the company's plans for missions to the Moon and Mars.
Speaker 5: They're going to try again to make it to Mars
Speaker 5: because he wants to colonize the planet.
Speaker 4: So that is kind of the whole situation with that.
Speaker 5: It's interesting though that he is like he pretty much
Speaker 5: made peace with Trump again to be able to get
Speaker 5: the get on board with the whole Genesis and the
Speaker 5: AI and stuff and being able to push this forward
Speaker 5: because the Genesis, as I wanted to touch base and
Speaker 5: look at it. They're using it as a sense of like, well,
Speaker 5: it's good for the economy, we're going to use it
Speaker 5: for the environment, but also we're going to be like,
Speaker 5: you know, building a whole bunch of you know, secret
Speaker 5: shit with it and trying to make sure that we.
Speaker 4: Rule the world.
Speaker 5: But it's the environment. So that's a whole vibe that's
Speaker 5: happening with the AI.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, it's something too with just
Speaker 3: with the title Genesis. I really think that they're trying
Speaker 3: to reclaim creation for man Man's version of Genesis of Creation,
Speaker 3: because that's that's how they think. You know, something you
Speaker 3: said in Innego Raven reminded me of a quote from
Speaker 3: Grimes on Alex Friedman Show where she said she sees
Speaker 3: homo's sapiens as becoming Homo techno, becoming this totally different thing.
Speaker 3: And back to this Genesis thing where they they're trying
Speaker 3: to I think they're trying to bring in this New
Speaker 3: Atlantis and they got that idea Francis Bacon essentially is
Speaker 3: which I think I threw his name out there early on,
Speaker 3: because first of all, Musk has said he said it
Speaker 3: in a tweet that he reads that every week. He
Speaker 3: reads like a passage of New Atlantis every week. And
Speaker 3: New Atlantis has ties back to Pluto and the Guardians
Speaker 3: of the Republic where you get this idea again, the
Speaker 3: few controlling the many. All this stuff is you know,
Speaker 3: intertwined so and technocracy, because I'm saying they're technocrats a
Speaker 3: lot this is the official definition in case I messed
Speaker 3: it up earlier. It's a government or control system of
Speaker 3: society by elites and technical experts. So I think you
Speaker 3: can see once you start to understand what these terms mean,
Speaker 3: like technocracy and singularity, you can you can see how
Speaker 3: they're trying to use that to gain control. And I
Speaker 3: mean this this flows into so many different topics. Eugenics, right,
Speaker 3: which is a parent in Huxley's work, and Brave New
Speaker 3: World that that book you've.
Speaker 5: Got never died either though, so you can go onto it. Well,
Speaker 5: you used to so pre COVID, you used to be
Speaker 5: able to go on to a lot of the websites
Speaker 5: that did a lot of genetic testings and you could
Speaker 5: go in and actually it would take a while, but
Speaker 5: you could go in and actually read their research about
Speaker 5: what they you know, what they're producing, but you'd have to.
Speaker 4: Like sift through it.
Speaker 5: They have a ton of genetic programs where they've been
Speaker 5: doing eugenics all this time, and it has a huge
Speaker 5: underbelly of creating the superhumans, dictating what humans do. And
Speaker 5: you know what we look like taking out the genomes
Speaker 5: that are broken and not working, i e. Anybody that
Speaker 5: has like down syndrome because that's technically not perfect. So
Speaker 5: they're wanting to remove those things from the sequencing. And
Speaker 5: that has never left and people are like, yes it has.
Speaker 5: It's you know, died with the Nazis.
Speaker 4: It never died. It never died.
Speaker 5: It just got better and they're just able to actually
Speaker 5: do things. I personally think that they're using that associated
Speaker 5: with cloning to be able to create a different type
Speaker 5: of race that maybe we haven't seen yet to where
Speaker 5: they're kind of, you know, we'll see like the Joe Biden,
Speaker 5: like the cloning and seeing how it falls and things
Speaker 5: like that. I think they actually have a way better
Speaker 5: superior race that they're making that they've just been making
Speaker 5: this whole time, that they're getting closer to whatever that
Speaker 5: perfectionism that they're trying to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. I mean, yeah, the technology and
Speaker 3: this is another thing, like the robots. I don't think
Speaker 3: people realize how weird it's going to get with robots.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen clips online. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys know about Oscar the robot, but it's not
Speaker 3: a robot like what people might think, like a Star
Speaker 3: Wars android. It's like a a little looks like a
Speaker 3: little piece of an human organ that they put this
Speaker 3: little black robot on. It sticks on it like a
Speaker 3: like a magnet on a fridge, and it brings the
Speaker 3: organ to life. The organ starts pumping like a heartwood.
Speaker 3: And then you take these ligaments and you put them
Speaker 3: on there and they start to work, and before you
Speaker 3: know it, it's like this little ball of flesh with
Speaker 3: tentacles that's crawling around on the floor.
Speaker 1: It's like Frankenstein's Monster.
Speaker 3: Literally, it's a Frankenstein situation. It is a Frankenstein moment
Speaker 3: that is perfect. So what they're gearing up for with
Speaker 3: that is like and there's another one to make my point,
Speaker 3: there's this It looks the same way. It's very flesh
Speaker 3: sheet and it's got it's like a it's like a
Speaker 3: colon or something, and they hiok a robot up to
Speaker 3: it and it starts to talk. It's simulating the human throat. Wow,
Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to create a human a robot clone.
Speaker 3: You know. It's a walking, talking robot that looks you
Speaker 3: because it's got all this flesh on it. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 5: Have you have you seen have you seen the robots though?
Speaker 5: The big bolt up one that they released last year
Speaker 5: that's huge. It has like muscles and everything, and it's
Speaker 5: actually they you can watch it because they actually cut
Speaker 5: back the flesh and you watch the muscles actually move
Speaker 5: and contract. Like they are a lot more advanced towards
Speaker 5: that than ever before. I mean, they've been look at
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, why did her name Anika?
Speaker 4: She has her.
Speaker 5: Facial expressions are mimic, like she's learning and she's been
Speaker 5: doing this all the different versions of it for the
Speaker 5: last decade. They've learned how to mimic facial expressions and like,
Speaker 5: you know, oh I'm happy, so like I smile now,
Speaker 5: but my eyes also move and my eyebrows move and
Speaker 5: all of these things, Like they've.
Speaker 4: Learned how to do this already.
Speaker 5: And that new one that they released last year that's
Speaker 5: actually imitating a real human, like it's they have muscles,
Speaker 5: they have veins, they have all all of these things.
Speaker 4: So given in another five years, and hell.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're going to have a blade Runner situation
Speaker 5: in our hands where we can't even tell what's what.
Speaker 4: And that's actually one of my favorite movies forever.
Speaker 3: So yeah, me too. Actually, I mean I've got a
Speaker 3: Blade Runner story as it relates to this too. And
Speaker 3: you know, so once I started learning, like, okay, I
Speaker 3: got my head. It wrapped around all these concepts like
Speaker 3: technocracy and singularity. And I'm starting to see this pattern
Speaker 3: where a lot of this stuff that we're seeing rolled
Speaker 3: out right now was presented to us long ago, in
Speaker 3: some cases in some of these sci fi movies as
Speaker 3: far back as you know, the sixties, if we're talking
Speaker 3: about Blade Runner. Because so, what I did was, I
Speaker 3: got up. I got a bookshelf over there full of
Speaker 3: like sci fi alls, because I love sci fi. I
Speaker 3: got up and I went over there and looked, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just gonna just see what happens here
Speaker 3: and see if I'm recognize any patterns here. So I got, uh,
Speaker 3: what is it? Robots Dream of Electric Sleep? It's the
Speaker 3: novel that Blade Runners based off of.
Speaker 4: Okay, what is what is it against?
Speaker 3: It's weird. It's a weird title. I think it's do
Speaker 3: Android's Dream of Electric Sleep. I think that's the title. Wow,
Speaker 3: it's Arthur C. Clark, I believe, Okay, but I can't
Speaker 3: reach there and I just go there. But anyways, so
Speaker 3: I open up to the first page. And I just
Speaker 3: read the first page, and you know, the main character
Speaker 3: is presented, of course, and they keep using this word
Speaker 3: of android, and what it is is the main character
Speaker 3: has this sort of droid that helps him out. And
Speaker 3: in the in the book they call it an android,
Speaker 3: and I'm like thinking, like it's and that book came
Speaker 3: out in nineteen sixty eight. I'm thinking, I've got an
Speaker 3: android right here. It's twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: I've got an android right here that will talk to
Speaker 3: me if I wanted to, We'll tell me where to go.
Speaker 4: That's creepy, that's really care.
Speaker 3: Where with me? This stuff was presented to us in
Speaker 3: the sci fi Yeah, and you know you get these
Speaker 3: rollout years, right. I think that nineteen sixty eight was
Speaker 3: one of these pre programming years for them, because what
Speaker 3: else came out in nineteeny sixty eight two thousand and
Speaker 3: one Space Odyssey that's based off of that one might
Speaker 3: be based off the Arthur C. Clark book. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: Philip K. Dick wrote the Blade Runner thing. Clark, who
Speaker 3: they called the uh, the Philosopher of I'll think about
Speaker 3: it in a minute. But Clark writes a book that
Speaker 3: becomes two thousand and one Space Odyssey. Of course the
Speaker 3: movie comes out, it's Kubrick nineteen sixty eight. And what
Speaker 3: do we see in that movie. We see an AI
Speaker 3: on a spaceship that goes rogue and takes over.
Speaker 2: And at that time that was seen as complete sci
Speaker 2: fi because remember, allegedly, nineteen sixty nine is when you
Speaker 2: put a man on the moon. So in sixty eight,
Speaker 2: every ounce of what you're talking about right now was
Speaker 2: so far are fetched, so into the future life this was,
Speaker 2: this was completely in the mind of someone's imagination, strictly
Speaker 2: for people's entertainment. My my, my, how quickly the sci
Speaker 2: fi becomes reality and real science and technocracy of today.
Speaker 5: But you do remember that The Jetsons was made in
Speaker 5: nineteen sixty two, Yeah, where they were taken care of
Speaker 5: the nanny by a robot right the entire time, so
Speaker 5: and she was a part of the family, and she
Speaker 5: had feelings and emotions and all of these things. And
Speaker 5: you know that I grew up watching that, And so
Speaker 5: it's interesting how they pre program people all those decades ago,
Speaker 5: and how like nowadays they have like the wild robot,
Speaker 5: for example, if you don't have kids, this is a
Speaker 5: kids movie that they released last year, I believe, and
Speaker 5: pretty much what it is is like this robot is
Speaker 5: sent to Earth and like has to learn all these
Speaker 5: different things and then has like a whole soul and
Speaker 5: helps raise this duck and this goose and all of
Speaker 5: these different stuff that happens. But I was telling my
Speaker 5: kids about it, I was like, look, they're trying to
Speaker 5: teach you that AI and robots are your best friends,
Speaker 5: and like they're going to have souls, and like they
Speaker 5: you want them in, you know, in their.
Speaker 4: House with you.
Speaker 5: You want them doing things with you. There's tons of
Speaker 5: shows that they've released in the last five years for
Speaker 5: kids that are all about robots and how the Little
Speaker 5: One with a Little Ghost Robot. Actually it's a it's
Speaker 5: actually a really good movie. It's cute, but.
Speaker 1: No to your point.
Speaker 2: Hell, even Wally that was years that was more than
Speaker 2: five years ago. And then look at what the humans
Speaker 2: were doing during Wally and Wally's Guys, A Little soul,
Speaker 2: little Eva robot.
Speaker 1: And all these things.
Speaker 2: It was a Disney movie, I know, shocker, but all
Speaker 2: of the humans had gotten so fat because they were
Speaker 2: so relyant on technology.
Speaker 1: It's almost like the movie idiocracy. Yeah. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: Idiocracy was made as a as a spoof.
Speaker 2: It wasn't supposed to be a blueprint, and yet we
Speaker 2: are rapidly approaching that right now. Wally was meant for entertainment.
Speaker 2: Yet I just have a weird feeling that sometime in
Speaker 2: the next one hundred years that's going to be a
Speaker 2: real situation if we don't make some changes right now.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you've got Raven. You mentioned eugenics, Jacob, you
Speaker 3: mentioned New World Order. We've got all this sci fi
Speaker 3: preprogramming attached to this. A New World Order part, by
Speaker 3: the way, is like very apparent in HG. Wells works.
Speaker 3: Just he actually wrote a book called New World Order
Speaker 3: that nobody ever talks about.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You got the eugenics in Huxley's work, both Huxley's Julian
Speaker 3: an Aldias. You've got another thing, though, apartheid that I
Speaker 3: thought was involved with this, which is supported by Peter
Speaker 3: Thiel to bring him into this because we know you
Speaker 3: are people already know he's he's involved with this whole
Speaker 3: technocrat stuff, but apartheid, which is something I wasn't planning
Speaker 3: on running into later. Uh So, so Peter till grows
Speaker 3: up for some time in South America, South Africa excuse
Speaker 3: under apartheid. He later comes over here and goes to
Speaker 3: Stanford University Shoker there, and he's one of the only
Speaker 3: pro apartheid students there. This is at a time where
Speaker 3: they are Stanford students are protesting apartheid. He's pro apartheid.
Speaker 3: So and this is just as apartheid is fueled by
Speaker 3: like racist ideology. This is a really strange chance to take.
Speaker 3: In the fifties, Elon Musk's grandfather moved to South Africa
Speaker 3: as well under the newly established apartheid. It was brand
Speaker 3: new there at the time, and he was a supporter
Speaker 3: of it there. So you've got two guys from South Africa,
Speaker 3: Musk because Elon Musk grew up there too, and Peter
Speaker 3: Thiel attached to this apartheid thing. And I just this
Speaker 3: gets there's this I don't usually get into the racism
Speaker 3: stuff on any of my shows, but like, there's this
Speaker 3: racist undercurrent here when you get into these figures like
Speaker 3: Curtis Jarvin. I don't know if he's come up on
Speaker 3: your show.
Speaker 1: At all, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: He's he's a modern guy. He's like a a tech
Speaker 3: bro ideologue. Who is I mean, he's he's been caught
Speaker 3: on camera saying racist stuff, saying stuff that, you know,
Speaker 3: certain races should not rule over big swaths of population.
Speaker 1: So like Nick Fintez, got you, got you?
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, and uh what there was something I
Speaker 3: don't remember I was going with that. Yeah, it's Curtis Jarvin,
Speaker 3: and he said all this weird.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing.
Speaker 2: These tech bros are already pro apartheid, or at least
Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form. They may not be
Speaker 2: overtly saying we need to, you know, institute that in
Speaker 2: America right now. But now let's take it to the
Speaker 2: technology side of things, where we're not talking about a
Speaker 2: race of human we're talking about the human race, the
Speaker 2: entirety of the human race, and the robots who are
Speaker 2: far superior. They can work longer, they could, they can
Speaker 2: retain more information, they could be programmed to do so
Speaker 2: much more than any human of any racial background. So
Speaker 2: I feel like we might be on the precipice of
Speaker 2: a technocratic apartheid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think so. I think so. The other
Speaker 3: thing I was going to say was in one of
Speaker 3: these interviews Jarvin he was kind of lovingly talking about
Speaker 3: and using the British Empire as an example for why
Speaker 3: certain races should rule over people and others shouldn't. And
Speaker 3: I just to venerate the British Empire. I'm not okay with.
Speaker 2: That, no, I mean, look at how Britain's being ran
Speaker 2: right now. And I mean we've made the joke a
Speaker 2: million times, but I'll die on this hill. They took
Speaker 2: over a third of the world for spices and shit,
Speaker 2: learned how to use none of them. And they're yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: right now, they're not even they're colloquially called beans on
Speaker 2: toast over there. It's currently being on falafel, like let's
Speaker 2: let's yeah, the British empires being taken over from the
Speaker 2: inside out from an infection that they caused.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So these guys are they're expousing all this
Speaker 3: backwards theology. And you can see this clearly with all
Speaker 3: these even some of Peter Thiel's lectures and interviews, just
Speaker 3: like what is what are these guys talking about? Like
Speaker 3: these people already live on Mars.
Speaker 5: This is the German guy, correct, Like he was from Germany. Correct,
Speaker 5: And he's the one that owns PayPal. He helped found
Speaker 5: PayPal and yes, yes, okay and so like and he
Speaker 5: him and Musk also made come what is it called Confinity?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's who.
Speaker 5: I wanted to make sure I was correct who it
Speaker 5: was Peter Thiel, Yeah, the digital world currency, and how
Speaker 5: he's in bed with him and the billionaire. I just
Speaker 5: want to I want to make sure I had, like
Speaker 5: who who it was?
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm laughing because Peter Teal being in bed
Speaker 2: with Elon. He's also an openly gay man and has
Speaker 2: been for years. Who just did a four part mini
Speaker 2: series on the Anti Christ.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's yeah phrasing.
Speaker 5: He designed, He designed and created a new world currency.
Speaker 5: I thought was an interesting name that he decided to pick.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was just kind of like looking into him,
Speaker 5: making sure I knew exactly who this was because I
Speaker 5: thought I knew the name, but I just wanted to
Speaker 5: do it because he also invested in like AI Lift.
Speaker 4: He's also heavily invested in SpaceX and he's.
Speaker 2: Also the reason why JD. Vance is the Vice President
Speaker 2: of the United States right now.
Speaker 4: It's interesting he was involved with Hull Cogan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, weird weird ties, weird connections. Hull Cogan got
Speaker 2: involved in some tech startups back.
Speaker 1: In the day.
Speaker 5: He successfully viewed an invasive privacy thing with this guy
Speaker 5: pretty much for making a sex tape featuring the wrestler.
Speaker 5: And obviously I don't know everyone should know who that is,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I just was looking into his whole situation.
Speaker 5: And he went to Stanford for the same thing that
Speaker 5: everybody else goes for pretty much in philosophy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really weird.
Speaker 2: And then homeboy brings in this guy, this up and
Speaker 2: comer jd that nobody has heard of.
Speaker 1: Dude's changed his.
Speaker 2: Name like four times because he comes from a fucked up.
Speaker 1: Childhood and things. Uh.
Speaker 2: And next thing you know, he just takes him under
Speaker 2: his wing and puts him in his back pocket. And
Speaker 2: when the time comes for Donnie t to need a
Speaker 2: new VP, somehow one of his big investor bros by
Speaker 2: the name of Peter Teal just like, Hey, I got
Speaker 2: this guy. He's in politics and grants it last week.
Speaker 2: He was a never trumper, but I have a feeling
Speaker 2: that if you gave him a call, he'd be a
Speaker 2: really good VP.
Speaker 1: Cut to JD Vance.
Speaker 4: That's the thing he also wrote.
Speaker 5: He also wrote a book like after leaving Stanford, he
Speaker 5: wrote The Diversity Myth, allegedly political intolerance at the university.
Speaker 4: He felt some type of way, apparently at nighttime.
Speaker 3: He also runs Ballantier, which is you know, this is
Speaker 3: like technology that has military applications as well as a
Speaker 3: lot of other things. I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 3: you mentioned the one world currency. He's number one on
Speaker 3: the list for technocrats right now. Would for me he
Speaker 3: would probably be Peter Deal I believe it or not.
Speaker 3: I think he overshadows Elon Musk in that regard.
Speaker 1: What is your take on Palmer Lucky.
Speaker 3: It's a new name to me. I've seen it a
Speaker 3: couple of times. I haven't looked into him yet.
Speaker 2: This guy, you've probably seen him on Rogan and on
Speaker 2: Sean Ryan. He's like twenty six. He has a mullet
Speaker 2: and a weird soul patch. But he's worth multi billions.
Speaker 2: He is developing weapons systems right now. He is an
Speaker 2: absolute tech bro. But he's also one of these guys
Speaker 2: that is like he was a child prodigy, and he
Speaker 2: he from.
Speaker 1: What I can tell, doesn't seem like he's out there
Speaker 1: for nefarious purposes.
Speaker 2: He seems like he's still true blue American all the
Speaker 2: way through kind of thing. But who's to say what
Speaker 2: he'll be in the next ten years. So yeah, if
Speaker 2: you haven't looked into him, I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, there's just a lot of weird stuff
Speaker 3: with fel just to go back to him for a second.
Speaker 3: Even even the name Pallanteer, he took that from Lord
Speaker 3: of the Rings, and in Lord of the Rings that
Speaker 3: was a sorcerers seeing stone. Yeah, that's kind of an
Speaker 3: application that they want to apply to that, like this
Speaker 3: mysticism with technology type of a thing. But he's kind
Speaker 3: a very interesting background. I mean, he actually, like I say,
Speaker 3: he lived in South Africa for a while. They moved
Speaker 3: to South Africa to a German colony. His grandparents were.
Speaker 3: They were Germans and they were they lived under the
Speaker 3: Third Reich. I don't know if they were Nazis or not,
Speaker 3: but they were there.
Speaker 1: Most Germans were.
Speaker 3: But this colony that they moved to, where Peter Thial
Speaker 3: lived until he was about ten or eleven, was known
Speaker 3: to be a pro Nazi haven. Ex Nazis were welcome
Speaker 3: there and they would fly but still fly the same
Speaker 3: old flags and all this stuff. So he's got this strange, convoluted,
Speaker 3: is it Nazi or is it not Nazi? Passed? He's
Speaker 3: been looking into the corporate cities. That's a that's another
Speaker 3: extension of all the stuff we're talking about now, especially
Speaker 3: when you get into the New Atlantis, this idea of
Speaker 3: building this scientific, new Enlightenment, new World order, corporate fifteen
Speaker 3: minute city. You know, if I could, yeah, I could
Speaker 3: probably throw a couple other phrases in there too, But
Speaker 3: it's a lot of things. It's smart cities, you know,
Speaker 3: it's freedom cities. If we're going to quote Trump, and
Speaker 3: you know jd Vance, Peter Till gets him in office.
Speaker 3: Jd Vance goes, first couple of weeks in office, go
Speaker 3: up to Greenland. We know Trump's trying to take Greenland.
Speaker 3: Peter Till looks into that. He's been research into corporate cities.
Speaker 3: They've said it out loud embroiders that they want to
Speaker 3: establish Greenland as a AI tech bro hub with all
Speaker 3: these futuristic cities there. So they're planning big things with
Speaker 3: that land. He's a big part of it. So you know,
Speaker 3: this is this is technocracy. It's we're going to preside
Speaker 3: over you by science. We're going to implement an electronic
Speaker 3: control system. It's occult New Enlightenment stuff that brings about
Speaker 3: this singularity and the technocracy attempts to manage the singularity.
Speaker 3: So that's and there's a lot of occult you know,
Speaker 3: backcurrents here with this stuff too. Oh absolutely, it's it's
Speaker 3: a scary concept because of all the unknowns, and it
Speaker 3: seems like people are just unconcerned with this. Some people
Speaker 3: are blessfully unaware. That's why I think it's important to
Speaker 3: talk talk about this stuff because there's just no there's
Speaker 3: no guardrails here. I think most people are going to
Speaker 3: be swept up with this thing like a wave. They
Speaker 3: won't even know what hit them.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because so many people are blinded by the
Speaker 2: convenience that it could bring right in the how it
Speaker 2: will help our society.
Speaker 4: City is going to get people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, that's going to get that well, because so
Speaker 5: they're the model of it, like one of the places
Speaker 5: that you can actually look so.
Speaker 4: They'll break it down for you.
Speaker 5: The University of the Built Environment is a place that
Speaker 5: actually will help people learn more about it and pretty
Speaker 5: much it what a fifteen minute city is broken down to.
Speaker 5: And the model wise, it is very enticing to a
Speaker 5: lot of people because people spend on average seventy percent
Speaker 5: more time commuting back and forth to work than two
Speaker 5: decades ago, and it's rising every year, like how much
Speaker 5: time it takes.
Speaker 4: And so the concept behind it is that it's.
Speaker 5: An urban planning model where everything a resident needs is
Speaker 5: in their daily life can be accessed within a fifteen
Speaker 5: minute walk or bike ride, making an entire city transversible
Speaker 5: in fifty minutes. Instead, it means designing local areas to
Speaker 5: have everything civilians need within this distance. So but then,
Speaker 5: like if you look on the backside of this, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of conversations where they want to actually implement
Speaker 5: blockades almost per se, where you don't go outside of
Speaker 5: your fifteen minutes. There was that movie that was made
Speaker 5: with it had like a time stamp on your arm
Speaker 5: and a clock of how much time everyone's time was worth.
Speaker 4: Currency.
Speaker 5: It was with like justin Timberlake and I forget who else,
Speaker 5: but it was it was a dumb.
Speaker 4: You know whatever.
Speaker 5: But the whole concept though, remember they were locked in
Speaker 5: their areas, like they were actually in there. They weren't
Speaker 5: allowed to go outside of this. And there's been quite
Speaker 5: a few movie references to not being able to go out.
Speaker 5: And so when I looked into it a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago, when it first came up, the conversation when
Speaker 5: they were showing just the initial models was that it
Speaker 5: was going to be this really awesome thing and you
Speaker 5: don't need to go nowhere. You can just walk and
Speaker 5: do all of these stuff and you don't have to leave,
Speaker 5: you don't have to leave that that area. Well, then
Speaker 5: the conversation became, well, what I have to leave because
Speaker 5: I have family in this other area. I want to
Speaker 5: go over here. Well, then they wanted to a tax
Speaker 5: how much you're driving. They wanted to take away the cars,
Speaker 5: and you'll have to use whatever public trans transportation they
Speaker 5: allow you to, but then you're gonna have to have
Speaker 5: a way to pay for it. Well, digital currency comes
Speaker 5: into this as well, because you know the UK is
Speaker 5: pushing for digital currency. They told their citizens, fuck you,
Speaker 5: you're getting this. That's there's no ifans or butts. Well,
Speaker 5: once they take the money away and they control the
Speaker 5: money and then control how how much you have, and
Speaker 5: then then they put you locked in these cities, then
Speaker 5: what if they decided to starve you out? What if
Speaker 5: they decided to block you in, say there's some unknown
Speaker 5: quote unquote pandemic, they.
Speaker 4: Just lock in the whole city and you're screwed. So
Speaker 4: it's the.
Speaker 5: Concept sounds nice for the conveniency. The problem is is
Speaker 5: you're just handy your freedom and you're not even batting
Speaker 5: an eye because it's easy and well, you know, I
Speaker 5: don't have to go nowhere. I can just I can
Speaker 5: walk down the street and everything I need is there.
Speaker 5: The problem is is you don't see everything else outside
Speaker 5: of that of what you're giving up. You're giving up
Speaker 5: everything to have a conveniency.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've said this a million times. And also I'm
Speaker 2: willing to die on this hill too. I deeply believe
Speaker 2: that modern civilization people don't actually want freedom. They want
Speaker 2: the freedom to be comfortable, right most people, because true
Speaker 2: freedom is dangerous.
Speaker 1: That means there's risk associated with it.
Speaker 2: That means that you might have to and when I
Speaker 2: say fight for it, I don't mean actually with weapons.
Speaker 2: I mean you're gonna have to take a stand. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to have your line in the sand that
Speaker 2: you know you're not crossing. You're gonna have to defend
Speaker 2: your statements on things. Freedom requires work, It requires effort.
Speaker 2: Most people living in modern society don't have the work
Speaker 2: ethic to really put in the work. Too many maintain freedom.
Speaker 2: I believe that they more often than not want the
Speaker 2: freedom to be comfortable, and they're willing to sacrifice so
Speaker 2: much of that freedom if it means their convenience and
Speaker 2: their comfort. And that's really sad, but it's also that's
Speaker 2: the modern world we live in.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, and freedom, I mean, you make a good point,
Speaker 3: because freedom is sometimes you have to step out of
Speaker 3: your comfort zone if you're going to experience more freedom
Speaker 3: in the world we live in. When it comes to like,
Speaker 3: let's say you get out of these cities that are
Speaker 3: slowly and increasingly becoming you know, there's this cloud coming
Speaker 3: in over us of surveillance. If you get out of
Speaker 3: these cities, you're gonna have to and you know, you
Speaker 3: make an attempt to break away from the system. It
Speaker 3: means more work, it means less comfort in your daily life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, you're not just going and sitting behind a
Speaker 3: desk and coming home and watching Netflix and ordering overeats.
Speaker 3: You're you got a garden. You gotta maintain the chickens.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to, you know, maintain your plot of land.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to do all this stuff to experience
Speaker 3: what true freedom is, which used to be just the
Speaker 3: way of life.
Speaker 2: The freest person in America right now is some dude
Speaker 2: living in a cabin in Alaska, hundreds of miles from civilization.
Speaker 1: He is all the freedom he could do what however
Speaker 1: the hell he wants.
Speaker 2: But also if he is out there cutting down a
Speaker 2: tree and breaks his leg, no one is coming to
Speaker 2: help him, like he's completely on his own, but he is.
Speaker 1: Also completely free. Now.
Speaker 2: I am not saying that everybody should be living that
Speaker 2: type of lifestyle. I believe that we can probably find
Speaker 2: some sort of a middle ground that we can be
Speaker 2: comfortable with here. But just when you look at the
Speaker 2: litmus test of your average American citizen, and I'm not
Speaker 2: even gonna say just American, I'll say pretty much any
Speaker 2: civilized quote unquote Western, quote unquote first world country, most
Speaker 2: people do not actually have the stones and the backbone
Speaker 2: and the work ethic to really grab their own freedom
Speaker 2: and take it for what it's worth. Most of them,
Speaker 2: when the government says, oh, we're passing a new mandate
Speaker 2: and this is the way it's gonna be okay whenever
Speaker 2: you say, mister government man, and they're just gonna let
Speaker 2: it go regardless if it's actually a law.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you gotta fight the power. No, no, no.
Speaker 2: Like COVID's a great example of this. The masks were
Speaker 2: never a law that was a mandate. It was a
Speaker 2: strong suggestion. There was no penalties for you not wearing
Speaker 2: a mask. You may not be able to go shop
Speaker 2: at this store. There's more stores, right, There's more things.
Speaker 1: You could go do.
Speaker 2: But people acted as if a new law was passed.
Speaker 2: And that was a really really good litmus test to
Speaker 2: see how many people will just bend the knee and
Speaker 2: capitulate with little to no effort, little to no resistance
Speaker 2: other than maybe putting up a post about how your
Speaker 2: morning was inconvenience and that was it. That was that
Speaker 2: was you taking a stand, and it's like, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think some more and more people as
Speaker 3: some of the realization starts to hit some of us
Speaker 3: that are awake for this thing. We're not just getting.
Speaker 3: Some people are sleep right into this thing. Some people
Speaker 3: are having this conversation needs to be had as I
Speaker 3: think some of us are going to at some point
Speaker 3: stand up and say, Okay, I'm getting out of the city.
Speaker 3: I'm watching my city become the fifteen minute city. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to take a stand. I'm gonna get up,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get out of my conference zone. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go get land, and I'm gonna figure this thing out
Speaker 3: with some like minded people. And that's been a theme
Speaker 3: that I've kind of stumbled upon on my show. We're
Speaker 3: talking more and more about that now increasingly on my show,
Speaker 3: something I want to explore more of in the future,
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to help people in the future. I
Speaker 3: want to help people get access to the knowledge and
Speaker 3: the techniques and just the means to be able to
Speaker 3: do that, because I think that's what's going to have
Speaker 3: to happen. As we were talking about the fifteen minute cities,
Speaker 3: there's swiftly becoming nineteen eighty four, which is that's what
Speaker 3: Orwell was trying to warn everybody about, or at least say, hey,
Speaker 3: this is worst case scenario, but probable as well. You know,
Speaker 3: He's he's looking at Aldis Huxley and H. G. Wells
Speaker 3: and some of these other technocrats and saying, Okay, these
Speaker 3: guys are making this sound like cool. It's like they're
Speaker 3: trying to sell you this crazy form of communism almost
Speaker 3: that you might think you want. But let me show
Speaker 3: you what it really looks like when you take the
Speaker 3: cherry off and the icing off and all that. That's
Speaker 3: what he was warning us about. So and I think too,
Speaker 3: you know, look at Bloomberg, Michael Bloomberg, he was the
Speaker 3: mayor of New York City. He established a headquarters recently
Speaker 3: in London in the financial sector, and he put in
Speaker 3: this brand new, state of the art building which is
Speaker 3: like an AI surveillance corporation headquarters first corporation, where you know,
Speaker 3: they know when you get up from your desk, they
Speaker 3: know every movement you make. They monitor you all day
Speaker 3: while you're at work. I have another friend who works
Speaker 3: for a fortune five hundred company and it's a work
Speaker 3: from home and you have to be on your computer
Speaker 3: all day. It's mandatory that you put in X amount
Speaker 3: of time on the computer. And there's no way around it.
Speaker 3: Like if you get up to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 3: somehow they know the sensors tell them that. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: there's no like you know, going in to the other
Speaker 3: room and cooking yourself lunch or something unless they know
Speaker 3: about it, and it's got to be that allotted period
Speaker 3: of time that they allow for you. My point is
Speaker 3: like all these sensors like they're going to control you
Speaker 3: down to these minute details. This is the fourth Industrial Revolution,
Speaker 3: this is what it entailed with that.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely comes from China.
Speaker 5: Because technocracy, well China is the one. So a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago they actually they've been testing it on
Speaker 5: the children is where it comes from. So they have
Speaker 5: schools that where parents have actually signed up their kids
Speaker 5: for this program where they actually wear different types of headbands,
Speaker 5: and what they do is as they're watching, how many
Speaker 5: times the eyes get distracted.
Speaker 4: What are they looking at?
Speaker 5: What are they are they distracted or are they doing
Speaker 5: their work? How fast are they doing their work? What
Speaker 5: is their emotional state. It's regulating all of these things.
Speaker 4: And they actually can watch.
Speaker 5: This in real time and so it shows every single
Speaker 5: time somebody one of the kids gets off task and
Speaker 5: how they and how it gets off tasks.
Speaker 4: Then on top of that, they've.
Speaker 5: Also now had multiple you know AI robots come in
Speaker 5: and they've tested, hey can we teach the children.
Speaker 4: How do they engage with the robots, How do they
Speaker 4: view these robots, Are they actually listening to them?
Speaker 5: Do they trust them? How can we further use them
Speaker 5: in classrooms? And then to hear that they're they're using
Speaker 5: the kids to see how they can get to the
Speaker 5: adults and be able to because kids are easily manipulated,
Speaker 5: they'll look at it and think it, you know, oh,
Speaker 5: it's cool. So the way that they got the parents
Speaker 5: to sign over was this was a conversation of them
Speaker 5: trying to figure out how to eliminate distractions and create better,
Speaker 5: sh smarter children. Pretty much is the whole concept behind it,
Speaker 5: and like, you know, well, if we can study what's
Speaker 5: distracting your kids, then we can help them better learn.
Speaker 5: So they came at it obviously from a good point
Speaker 5: of view, but in reality, I don't think it really
Speaker 5: had anything to do with that. I think it's more
Speaker 5: about mind control, and it's more about controlling the population.
Speaker 5: And as we move forward in more advanced you're gonna
Speaker 5: because once you stifle so much creativity, you're not gonna
Speaker 5: have people that are able or willing I guess to
Speaker 5: create anything. They're going to grow up as kids not
Speaker 5: being able to color, you know, a random dragon or whatever.
Speaker 4: Because it's not allowed.
Speaker 5: It's not permitted, and so it's just it's all insidious
Speaker 5: and it's all a plan, but it takes time to
Speaker 5: implement that plan.
Speaker 4: So that people it's easily digestible by people.
Speaker 1: So oh no, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I have a buddy of mine who is working as
Speaker 2: a pipe designer, right and uh I was.
Speaker 1: I asked his wife, like was so, oh, hey, text
Speaker 1: him real quick? And I ask him this and this,
Speaker 1: Oh I can't text him. He's at work.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, he works in an office, like
Speaker 2: he's not on site. And in certain plants and in
Speaker 2: certain industries, you're not allowed to have your cell phone
Speaker 2: on site because you could take a picture of the refinery.
Speaker 1: That's like company secrets these types of things.
Speaker 2: Fine, fine, but I'm like, he's working at the office,
Speaker 2: he's not what do you mean he can't have his phone?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, they have a camera on his laptop
Speaker 2: watching him, and like he can't even he can't look
Speaker 2: away from his screen because or if he pulls his
Speaker 2: phone out, I cou'd be fired and blackballed instantly. I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait what And this was years ago, not like a decade,
Speaker 2: like this was about six years ago. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, cut too. Amazon drivers now have a camera
Speaker 2: in their trucks that's watching them as they drive. Not
Speaker 2: in all states, but some states have this and it's
Speaker 2: being powered by AI. And they claim that the dude,
Speaker 2: my buddy who was working with the pipe design. They
Speaker 2: were saying that it was to protect from the stealing
Speaker 2: of company secrets. In reality that it was nothing to
Speaker 2: do with that. It was absolutely trying to make sure
Speaker 2: that when they pay you for twelve hours, they're getting
Speaker 2: twelve hours to the second of your work out of you.
Speaker 2: The Amazon drivers are saying that it's for the security
Speaker 2: of the packages, right, They're just trying to make sure
Speaker 2: that these Amazon drivers aren't tampering with the packages. No
Speaker 2: Amazon driver is messing with your packages. Yeah, it might
Speaker 2: get stolen off your porch from somebody. The Amazon driver
Speaker 2: is not trying to tamper with the package. Why would
Speaker 2: they do that. They're trying to keep their job for Amazon.
Speaker 2: It's all a part of the control mechanism and it's
Speaker 2: all being powered by AI. It's mind blowing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to the a minute ago we were
Speaker 3: talking about how some of this is coming out of China.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a crazy thing to look into, because
Speaker 3: I think it's as of twenty twelve. I think early
Speaker 3: aughts China changed from communists to a technocracy. That's their
Speaker 3: official title now, is not that they're communist, is technocracy.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the work of Anthony Sutton
Speaker 3: and Patrick Wood, the speculation is that that change was
Speaker 3: brought about by influence by the Rockefellers, because the Rockefellers
Speaker 3: have long had these very quiet but very strong relations
Speaker 3: with China, so it's you know, it's not that they
Speaker 3: brought that. So it's another example the technocracy coming out
Speaker 3: of America. Right. We talked about the Nazis. Before the
Speaker 3: Nazis even were looking at technocracy, they had it on
Speaker 3: the table. They were getting it from us as well.
Speaker 3: And I looked into the Rockefellers recently and it's just
Speaker 3: so crazy. I mean, they have their own version. It's
Speaker 3: the Rockefeller Foundation. They have their own version of the
Speaker 3: fifteen Minute City that they're working on, and they're calling
Speaker 3: it Resilient Cities. The original website was taken down. You
Speaker 3: get the error operator unknown five O five things. But
Speaker 3: if you go to the Rockefeller Foundation dot org, they
Speaker 3: allude to it on their some because what they did
Speaker 3: was they rolled it out in Guadalajara and parts of
Speaker 3: Mexico City as a trial run. This is this is
Speaker 3: their version of the fifteen minute smart city, and they
Speaker 3: had this corporate structure to it. Or they tell you
Speaker 3: on the site, you know, we send in our they
Speaker 3: use that word resilient about twenty times in there are
Speaker 3: resilient Officers, our CEO who does resilience training. And we
Speaker 3: even looked up on the show why We're like, why
Speaker 3: are they using this word resilience so much? So we
Speaker 3: looked at the Jamatria for it, which I never do,
Speaker 3: but in this case, I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: these are cobblists, so what are they thinking? So we
Speaker 3: looked it up in Resilience is six sixty six in Jamatria.
Speaker 5: Wow, but that's crazy, it is so but they have
Speaker 5: these so it's their resilient city project.
Speaker 3: It's it's similar to the Trump fifth Freedom Cities. It's
Speaker 3: similar to Peter Till's corporate or floating cities as they'll
Speaker 3: sometimes call it smart cities, et cetera. And also on
Speaker 3: the site right below all this is an article with
Speaker 3: a picture of them and they're announcing their partnership with
Speaker 3: mister Beast. I've rope him into this.
Speaker 4: He is. He is everywhere, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Everywhere he's ever if you look. Recently, there was a
Speaker 3: clip going around on Instagram and TikTok of him talking around.
Speaker 3: You know, he's always got his buddies around here talking
Speaker 3: about stuff. He's talking about how he goes to this
Speaker 3: secret meeting with all these elites and powerful people of
Speaker 3: the world, and he's like, yeah, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: it was kind of weird being there and all this
Speaker 3: and that. And that's the Rockefellers guys. They they they're
Speaker 3: the ones who run the Builderberg Group.
Speaker 5: He's actually been on a couple of weird things where
Speaker 5: he's gone on and they made him stop filming at
Speaker 5: two of them because my kids watch him on the
Speaker 5: YouTube stuff and I was like, I just don't trust
Speaker 5: this dude, Like they just don't. He was actually the
Speaker 5: one that was wanting to buy TikTok, and he was
Speaker 5: talking about buying TikTok. He has a couple of those
Speaker 5: shows where they've tried to steal from him, like quote
Speaker 5: unquote the money banks, and he has like money bank
Speaker 5: ones where he's like gonna give people money, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I just don't trust to you.
Speaker 4: I think that you're full of shit.
Speaker 2: No, No, he really gives the people money, but he
Speaker 2: also ruins people's lives, so like, yeah, he'll give somebody
Speaker 2: a Ferrari, Dude, they can't pay the taxes on that,
Speaker 2: so they end up having to sell it and make
Speaker 2: less money.
Speaker 1: And then it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 2: Every time he does one of these massive acts of generosity,
Speaker 2: it's like, you're screwing over these people.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's I don't even think it's intentional.
Speaker 5: There was like a conspiracy about him a few years ago, actually,
Speaker 5: like he was one of.
Speaker 4: His buddy was a pedophile.
Speaker 5: He had ties the pedophilia and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Another one of those homies became trans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a whole bunch of different stuff that was
Speaker 4: he was tied up. And I'm like, there's no way that.
Speaker 5: You're able to play along with Elon and have enough
Speaker 5: money to like questionably take over TikTok. I just I
Speaker 5: don't see how he's not a part of it. But
Speaker 5: I did watch an episode where he was went to
Speaker 5: these high up meetings and the way that he like
Speaker 5: kind of described it to the kids, was like, Oh, they're.
Speaker 4: Super powerful, cool meetings.
Speaker 5: And then then he walked in and he's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I have to shut off the cameras, it's too top secret,
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. And I'm like, so you're just telling
Speaker 5: the kids outright that you're going to these, you know,
Speaker 5: elite meetings where you're probably talking about how shitty the
Speaker 5: rest of us are and how you want to kill
Speaker 5: us all. And it's fine, You're gonna make money off
Speaker 5: of it because you're you know, you're you're making sure
Speaker 5: that you are making interesting for the children to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: And then also, like you were talking about tim with China, right,
Speaker 2: so if you look on paper, they're still listed as
Speaker 2: the CCP, right, the Chinese Communist Party as far as
Speaker 2: their political wing, but them being a technocracy. That is
Speaker 2: also because they screwed themselves out of their biggest asset
Speaker 2: right with that one child policy. China's biggest asset for
Speaker 2: years and years has always been their population.
Speaker 1: They got slave labor.
Speaker 2: They could lose two million people right now and not
Speaker 2: feel it, and that's always been their jam, whether that
Speaker 2: was on a military standpoint, on a farming standpoint on
Speaker 2: sweatshop labor, whatever you want to call it, and that
Speaker 2: one child policy for twenty years took that out, so
Speaker 2: they know the writing on the wall. In the next
Speaker 2: twenty years, when their main workforce should be thirty five,
Speaker 2: they're not going to be there. So they have decided
Speaker 2: they're going to lean way more heavily into technocracy as
Speaker 2: a way to I don't want to say ipass the
Speaker 2: human workforce, but also kind of bypassed the human workforce.
Speaker 2: And there's multiple companies that have been doing experiments on this.
Speaker 2: BMW just retired their first year's worth of humanoid robots
Speaker 2: that have been building BMW's at their manufacturing facility for
Speaker 2: the last year. So these robots have been building cars
Speaker 2: without a break, without vacation, without weekends, twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they may be a little bit slower than
Speaker 2: human hands, when you're looking at the fact that they're
Speaker 2: running twenty four to seven without stop.
Speaker 1: Their output has been phenomenal and.
Speaker 2: After one year, they now have data on what they
Speaker 2: need to change and what needs to be improved upon,
Speaker 2: and what the next batch of humanoid robots need to
Speaker 2: be better to make the sweatshop labor happen in that way.
Speaker 2: Now cut to China sweatshops. They're making iPhones and everything else.
Speaker 2: As of this particular moment, it needs human hands. Ten
Speaker 2: years from now, why there's gonna be no reason to
Speaker 2: have a human workforce. There's gonna be no reason to
Speaker 2: pay these people any kind of salary or wage. And
Speaker 2: that's kind of I think why China has leaned more
Speaker 2: heavily into that and why they have started making moves
Speaker 2: in the industries of the world. Every Time an oil
Speaker 2: field shuts down somewhere, Chinese I don't want to say ambassadors,
Speaker 2: Chinese agents for lack of better words, are on site
Speaker 2: the next day to buy it up for pennies on
Speaker 2: the dollar. Anytime there's a mineral mind somewhere that somebody
Speaker 2: forgot about. Anytime there's some sort of a farm land
Speaker 2: that this developer says, I can't really do much with
Speaker 2: this land. Oh, China's on the way, don't worry. And
Speaker 2: that has been their play because they now know in
Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty years that's going to be their only poll.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, And I mean there's a show called Mister Robot.
Speaker 3: We were talking about pre programming in movies and it
Speaker 3: shows earlier. There's this a season of Mister Robot where
Speaker 3: they lays all this out. They show you the how
Speaker 3: the builder bird sort of back room shady deals work
Speaker 3: and how much this way China really has in those
Speaker 3: it's laid out in that. But I agree, man, I
Speaker 3: think this tech is going to bring about major change,
Speaker 3: and so I've been looking to de cipher some some
Speaker 3: of that. That's been this sort of quest I'm on
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you one of the other people it
Speaker 3: led me to. Peter Till's a big one. Musk obviously
Speaker 3: is a big one. Ray Kurswell is a big one,
Speaker 3: because I think that they're if you think about this
Speaker 3: in terms of a timeline, what are they wanting to
Speaker 3: achieve and when are they wanting to achieve it? By
Speaker 3: he's their guy for that because he's been saying for
Speaker 3: thirty years now that the Singularity is coming in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty nine, and he hasn't let off. He always says
Speaker 3: it with confidence, and all these people you know, this
Speaker 3: is the I think this is the timeline that your
Speaker 3: Grimes and your Musks and your sam Altimans are on.
Speaker 3: They're planning for twenty twenty nine for this stuff to drop,
Speaker 3: which strangely parallels Agenda twenty thirty in my opinion, because
Speaker 3: think about it. I mean, of course, like twenty twenty
Speaker 3: nine backs right up into twenty thirty. They could roll
Speaker 3: some of this stuff out in you know, the last
Speaker 3: month of twenty twenty nine and still call it Agenda
Speaker 3: twenty thirty. You know that both works. But he's been
Speaker 3: if you go back to ninety nine, he puts out
Speaker 3: this book Kurschwild does called The Age of the Spiritual Machine,
Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, think about that name, right,
Speaker 3: the Age of the Spiritual Machine. I'm thinking, Oh, that's
Speaker 3: a very Rudolph Steiner. A jacent concept there. Like the
Speaker 3: Steiner work, it points towards this something that is coming.
Speaker 3: And I was reading about this guy, Kurtzwild. He's a
Speaker 3: bit of a mystic himself. He said that he assigns
Speaker 3: himself a question before falling asleep every night. He calls
Speaker 3: it lucid dreaming. So you go, as you're about to sleep,
Speaker 3: drift into sleep, you ask the I guess the universe something.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that works, but it's like divining
Speaker 3: f answers. So this guy's an interesting case study. And
Speaker 3: going back to like we talked about nineteen sixty eight,
Speaker 3: I think that was a rollout here. I think that
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine was a roll out year as well,
Speaker 3: because you had The Matrix come out in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, is it a coincidence that this guy
Speaker 3: writes this book and puts it out the same year
Speaker 3: that the Matrix comes out and he calls it the
Speaker 3: Spiritual Age of the Machine, Like, this is what you
Speaker 3: get into here, is is gnostica cult matrix theory. You know,
Speaker 3: there's there's a Matrix out there or a theory out
Speaker 3: there that the Matrix movie came out and was a
Speaker 3: metaphor for gnosticism where Nedo embodies this savior figure who
Speaker 3: rises up to lead the way to liberation in this
Speaker 3: cyberpunk tech world. And I think you can call these
Speaker 3: people today who think that they're the NEOs the techno gnostics.
Speaker 3: I think that's a good term for it, because they
Speaker 3: chase after salvation and immortality through tech. Kurtzweild certainly does.
Speaker 3: He's all about life extension, and he thinks all that's
Speaker 3: going to be available from the from the singularity, So
Speaker 3: you know just the fact that he calls his book
Speaker 3: age of the Spiritual Machine, and he has another book
Speaker 3: called The Singularity Is Near and this tie with nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety nine in the matrix. I think these are very
Speaker 3: occult driven philosophies that link up.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, and you, being a Christian,
Speaker 2: a man of faith, yes, do you believe that this
Speaker 2: ties into the esketon or do you believe that these
Speaker 2: people actually have Like how could I put this?
Speaker 1: There's two schools of thought.
Speaker 2: As far as what these people's end goals are, and
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that one is more or less valid
Speaker 2: than the other.
Speaker 1: It really depends on your standpoint.
Speaker 2: Right, Some believe that these people are doing these things
Speaker 2: to try to bring about the end of days. Some
Speaker 2: believe that they are trying to do this as a
Speaker 2: way to prolong it. And like Musks has a business
Speaker 2: model that goes for five hundred years, how many businesses
Speaker 2: do you know that have a five hundred year business plan?
Speaker 2: That's insane to say, outline out But some people believe
Speaker 2: that the techno bros Are trying to prepare for pretty
Speaker 2: much immortality, and some say that they are trying to
Speaker 2: bring about the end of time? Where are you at
Speaker 2: on this? Because I honestly think I could see a
Speaker 2: little credence to both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too, Actually, I mean, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to lie at what. The first time I heard that suggestion,
Speaker 3: I didn't really think much about it. I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, its just sounds it sounds like something that
Speaker 3: you know, you would you would say, if you're a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Theorist, which I mean you throw, which I am.
Speaker 3: I'd be honest about that too, I am. I just
Speaker 3: didn't put much stock into it. But you know, one
Speaker 3: of the questions I've had with looking at these people
Speaker 3: is what is their eschatology? What is their theology? Because
Speaker 3: something's there? What is it that you know? It entices
Speaker 3: Peter Theo at the end of the day and and
Speaker 3: influences him to do a four part series on the
Speaker 3: anti Christ. There's a theology there, There's an eschatology there.
Speaker 3: He likes to cite Orthodoxy in his stuff. Some of
Speaker 3: these other guys do too, like Nick Land, who's in occultest,
Speaker 3: who talks about all this singularity stuff. He likes to
Speaker 3: draw from Orthodoxy and those Orthodoxy says this and that,
Speaker 3: and so at the end of the day. They are
Speaker 3: kind of drawing from Christian theology in a way, so
Speaker 3: they have to be some of them, I think actively
Speaker 3: are buying into the fact that there is and in
Speaker 3: times they do acknowledge that. So I think they have
Speaker 3: to sort of hit in the back of their mind
Speaker 3: or their stomach realize, yeah, you know, what we're doing
Speaker 3: right now could affect that and could bring that in.
Speaker 3: And Yeah, it's been said for a long time that
Speaker 3: some of cultures were actively trying to bring in the Antichrist.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember one of the first Internet forums
Speaker 3: I ever got on in the nineties was a esoteric
Speaker 3: form where people got on and broke down did occult
Speaker 3: decodes of Marilyn Manson's Yeah, and they were saying when
Speaker 3: Antichrist Superstar, whenever that record came out, people were there's
Speaker 3: a lot of hubbub about that being Manson is trying
Speaker 3: to bring about the end times. He's trying to like
Speaker 3: crack this metaphysical doorway, create this rift for this thing
Speaker 3: to come through. And then later and they were going
Speaker 3: through some of his lyrics and saying, see this is
Speaker 3: what he's saying. Later in the interviews, he said that
Speaker 3: that's what he was trying to do. And he even said,
Speaker 3: that's why I put the sigils on the CD in
Speaker 3: the first place. So when you press play, the CD
Speaker 3: starts to spin and the siguls are activated. And he said,
Speaker 3: what the heck, why not let's see if we can
Speaker 3: bring about this Christian in times anti christ scenario. So,
Speaker 3: whether he's trolling or not, he's going for it right right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's a thing.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Do you think that?
Speaker 5: Have you always seen the show Alternated Carbon by chance
Speaker 5: some of it? So the premise of the show, I
Speaker 5: don't know if you've seen it, Jacob. I think it's
Speaker 5: a fascinating I think this is actually.
Speaker 4: What we're gearing up towards.
Speaker 5: If I was gonna suggest, if I was going to
Speaker 5: think about the neurolink, the AI and what we're looking
Speaker 5: at potentially as we move forward, and like the crossover
Speaker 5: between technology and AI and humans. So pretty much there
Speaker 5: is a disc in the back of your neck and
Speaker 5: what that holds is essentially your essence, to your soul,
Speaker 5: whatever it is that makes you you, you, your memories,
Speaker 5: you as a person and in itself. And what they
Speaker 5: do is you can change. So if you're really rich,
Speaker 5: you can have tons of bodies, and you can have
Speaker 5: multiple discs of your essence, yourself, your soul, whatever it is,
Speaker 5: and you can put these interchangeable in these different bodies. Now,
Speaker 5: if you're poor, you can get it an upgrade. If
Speaker 5: you get money, you can change a body and get
Speaker 5: an upgrade. You can kind of do.
Speaker 4: Things like that.
Speaker 5: Some of them have. Some of them are where they
Speaker 5: like the show itself. He's an older from way back,
Speaker 5: and like he's trying to figure out what happened to him,
Speaker 5: and he got inserted into this other guy.
Speaker 4: And so it was an interesting thing.
Speaker 5: So like so if you go to jail or whatever,
Speaker 5: they just snatch that card out and they keep it,
Speaker 5: and like you're just stuck in this your essence, your
Speaker 5: person is stuck in this disc, and you can be
Speaker 5: popped in if you're rescued to another one or taken
Speaker 5: out back and forth. And so like the elite, they
Speaker 5: never die pretty much. They have so much money and
Speaker 5: wealth they just continue to live for hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 5: of years and control all of these things. Because if
Speaker 5: you have the money, you have the availability to be
Speaker 5: able to have more than one disc, and you'll just survive.
Speaker 5: And so when I think about us in this kind
Speaker 5: of scenario, when we're talking about, you know, potential, what
Speaker 5: it looks like in the future, I don't feel like
Speaker 5: we're far off from this because we're already having the
Speaker 5: crossover where you see overseas where they're you know, you're
Speaker 5: able to walk about in a robot. So you're sitting down,
Speaker 5: you have a whole head thing on and everything, and
Speaker 5: you're able to walk about and move as you're the robot.
Speaker 4: You're telling it via your mind what to do. That's
Speaker 4: just one of the robots.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of other things that they're doing right now,
Speaker 5: and that was only that was a few years ago.
Speaker 4: So the technology has advanced so rapidly.
Speaker 5: I think with Neurolink and how it's been still all
Speaker 5: twelve of those people still have.
Speaker 4: It right now.
Speaker 5: They haven't removed it. It's been quote unquote successful. I
Speaker 5: don't see I personally think that that's what it's gonna
Speaker 5: end up doing. Like somehow they're gonna harness whatever it
Speaker 5: is that makes us us. They're gonna find a way
Speaker 5: to get it. I don't know what that is, like,
Speaker 5: I don't know how they're gonna get it. But I
Speaker 5: feel like that's what part of their in game might be.
Speaker 5: And when it comes to finding or using AI, how
Speaker 5: do they get to that core person? How do we
Speaker 5: make ourselves last forever?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: Arthur C. Clark was one of the guys I said earlier,
Speaker 3: and they called him the profit of the Space Sage,
Speaker 3: And one of his quotes was, any sufficiently advanced technology
Speaker 3: is indistinguishable from magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Think he was.
Speaker 3: Acknowledging the overall occult connections to this stuff and the
Speaker 3: potential to reach immortality.
Speaker 1: And I agree with that.
Speaker 2: For the record, I feel like a lot of our
Speaker 2: what we would now call like ancient alchemy, we would
Speaker 2: now call chemistry, But to the people of ancient Egypt,
Speaker 2: ancient Greece, ancient Persia, to them it was indiscernible from magic.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You take this silver spoon, you dip it in this
Speaker 2: liquid and it comes out golden. They had they didn't
Speaker 2: understand that what you just did was gold plate something.
Speaker 2: All they saw was you just turned a base metal
Speaker 2: to gold. It's there's no way to actually do that.
Speaker 2: But to them, how would they be able to tell
Speaker 2: the difference? Right, this is before they had like understanding
Speaker 2: of what mass was and things like that. They were
Speaker 2: able to like find out if like what was that
Speaker 2: example in the Middle Ages, a dude there was a
Speaker 2: goldsmith and a crown for the king, and he gave
Speaker 2: him the gold to do it, and then he actually
Speaker 2: just gold plated some cheaper metal and they were able
Speaker 2: to do it with how much water displaced and they
Speaker 2: put them to death over it. I forget the whole example,
Speaker 2: but this is before that time. But true technological innovation,
Speaker 2: true science, to the layman's person, will be absolutely indiscernible
Speaker 2: from magic. I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 3: I think too that they're in their mind they're gearing
Speaker 3: up to have, you know, these facilities where they can
Speaker 3: go and get how whatever that looks like, as a
Speaker 3: medicai or as a surgery or what, go and get
Speaker 3: this immortality fix, even if it buys you another twenty years,
Speaker 3: buys you another forty years, and then you go back
Speaker 3: to the doctor whatever that looks like. I think they're
Speaker 3: gearing up for that. But it's the overall society that's
Speaker 3: going to harness that I think they're more concerned about,
Speaker 3: which is like this utopian colony that we see in
Speaker 3: the New Atlantis Francis Bacon's book, like I said, ran
Speaker 3: by the science priestcraft, ran by the order. In that book,
Speaker 3: it's called the Order of the Temple of Solomon. And
Speaker 3: the order in that book is not unlike the order
Speaker 3: that I believe started this country. George Washington, he was
Speaker 3: a man of the order. These guys are Masons, Templars
Speaker 3: and Rosa Crucians, and pretty much prove that now because
Speaker 3: I've looked into it enough. And that book said it
Speaker 3: says New Atlantis a work unfinished, And I think Francis
Speaker 3: Bacon was trying to say something by that. I think
Speaker 3: that America was meant to be the New Atlantis and
Speaker 3: possibly to give way to this other thing, like America
Speaker 3: wasn't the last stage. The last stage is more like
Speaker 3: this utopia tech bro fifteen minute city or network of cities,
Speaker 3: possibly in Greenland, that these guys are going to build.
Speaker 3: So you know, Elon, like I said, he reads this
Speaker 3: book every week. He says, it's a protogenesis of America.
Speaker 3: It acknowledges the cult origins, and it tells you sort
Speaker 3: of like, oh, it's a work unfinished. You guys need
Speaker 3: to keep chipping away at this. The founding fathers all
Speaker 3: read this, and it said that Bacon's own order, he
Speaker 3: was a Rosicrusian as well. They helped come over here
Speaker 3: and build the colonies alongside of the founding fathers, and
Speaker 3: it said that they secretly held a New Atlantis book
Speaker 3: to essentially, there's another extra part of that book out
Speaker 3: there floating around that the secret societies allegedly have. You know,
Speaker 3: the Templars have made things statements saying that they may
Speaker 3: have had it too. But it was certainly like hell
Speaker 3: with the Resicrucians. And people think that the rescretions is like,
Speaker 3: not this real thing they are. They've got a museum
Speaker 3: in California.
Speaker 2: Oh, bro, there is a Rosicrucian. I want to call
Speaker 2: it a temple, but let's call it a group of them.
Speaker 2: Right next to the New Orleans Airport.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: I went to pick up my brother or somebody from
Speaker 2: the airport, and I pulled off the side of the
Speaker 2: road because I needed to do something. I had detect
Speaker 2: somebody or hit Landy yet, whatever the case. And I
Speaker 2: look up and I realized I'm in the parking lot
Speaker 2: of this strip mall and the sign the New Orleans
Speaker 2: Order of Rosicrucians just right there, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: what So yeah, they're absolutely a real thing for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it wasn't so they the secret societies
Speaker 3: are are very much a part of this too, And
Speaker 3: it's like this weird thing with them, where some of
Speaker 3: them it seems like they had good intentions. They had
Speaker 3: good enough intentions to put together like a slap in constitution,
Speaker 3: like I'm all about the constitution, like the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 3: Let's go. This stuff is great because when it starts
Speaker 3: to reign, Christians can get under the umbrella too. It's nice.
Speaker 3: But it's like there's this thing that happened probably in
Speaker 3: the eighteen hundreds, probably around the same time, but the
Speaker 3: very Muminati pops up. I know that's the seventeen seventy six,
Speaker 3: that's the same time as the foundation of the country.
Speaker 1: But they merged in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 3: I think they infiltrated. Yeah, in the eighteen hundreds, because
Speaker 3: there's some old letters that I found. George Washington was
Speaker 3: writing to some of his friends over there in Europe,
Speaker 3: and the friends are writing back and warning him like, George,
Speaker 3: have you heard about this Bavarian Illuminati? This is these
Speaker 3: guys are like what did they call them? They're like infidels.
Speaker 3: They're they're trying to infiltrate governments, and they're a godless bunch,
Speaker 3: and you know, they just want power, and they're like
Speaker 3: they're like black magic occultis and they're like, they're gonna
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do, George. They're going to try
Speaker 3: to infiltrate your Masonic lodges. And George is like rice
Speaker 3: bag says, you know, I think I've got into control
Speaker 3: for now, but what about later? Because that's when science,
Speaker 3: science starts to come into the the Freemason orders later
Speaker 3: in the late eighteen hundreds. Yeah, and it's like this
Speaker 3: shift where it's like it's not about the mystical stuff anymore.
Speaker 3: It's more about scientists, and like, you know, we're not
Speaker 3: talking to spirits anymore. We're doing this other thing, this
Speaker 3: this thing where it's like we stripped the supernatural out
Speaker 3: of out of everything. I know, it was a weird
Speaker 3: shift there, and I feel like it was Sabotine Frankism
Speaker 3: and Bavarian Bavarian illuminatis people into Rothschilds and some of
Speaker 3: those type people that I'm trying to Sabatize Zebbi is his name.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about the one who actually made the
Speaker 2: Star of David the symbol of the Jews, because before
Speaker 2: him it was the Kiddish Cup.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he did. This goes a lot going on
Speaker 3: with this guy. They were these like black magicians.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He thought he was the next Messiah too, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah that's that's the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they were going around telling people. Not only do
Speaker 3: I think that they infiltrate and Masonic lodges and everything
Speaker 3: else governments, They were going around telling people, hey, we're
Speaker 3: Jews or Christians when they weren't. Yeah, they would put
Speaker 3: on I think they did that with Protestantism as well.
Speaker 3: They would put on it the religion like a like
Speaker 3: a like a cloak for for political reasons. But me
Speaker 3: in the meantime, behind the scenes, they're practicing their black magic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so something happened with all that. I mean, I know
Speaker 3: that's like a side tangent.
Speaker 1: But no, no, I think it's all connected, honestly.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the main main point here though, is
Speaker 3: that there's this order, very old occult order that was
Speaker 3: very much in charge of sort of setting this thing
Speaker 3: up and at some point we fell into this technocratic
Speaker 3: science race, and that's where things just seem to be
Speaker 3: headed like we're on a trajectory. For that We're in
Speaker 3: a train, no conductor, I mean, no breaks, everything's broke.
Speaker 3: We're just flying right towards this thing. So science at
Speaker 3: the helm, you know.
Speaker 2: I agree, And I think that that was I think
Speaker 2: that that shift was done very purposefully because if you
Speaker 2: look at even the American culture in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 2: I mean, I could throw a rock in any group
Speaker 2: of dudes and you statistically were probably gonna hit a
Speaker 2: free mason, right because I mean that was like that
Speaker 2: was the cool thing to do at that time. Cut
Speaker 2: to these days, the numbers are dwindling in free masonry,
Speaker 2: as at least in America. I can't speak on the
Speaker 2: entire world, but a lot of these groups, these secret society,
Speaker 2: these brotherhoods of the whatever, the Benevolent Order of the
Speaker 2: whatever you name it, the Elk Lodge, the Moose Lodge,
Speaker 2: all of them are dwindling in numbers these days.
Speaker 1: So I think, and I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: That the Elks and the Mooses or whatever are trying
Speaker 2: to control the world. I think that was more like
Speaker 2: a social club but beside the points like the Kowanas
Speaker 2: Club but whatever, rotary clubs and shit. But the actual
Speaker 2: ones that are trying to run the world, they realize
Speaker 2: that their numbers are dwindling, and very similar to like
Speaker 2: we were talking about with China, I think they realize
Speaker 2: the riding on the wall, and so they have adopted
Speaker 2: more of a technocratic way of moving forward as a
Speaker 2: way to maintain control with how could I put this,
Speaker 2: the most amount of juice with the least amount of squeezing,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. They no longer have to have
Speaker 2: as much skin in the game because they got in
Speaker 2: on this techno shit from the ground level. So at
Speaker 2: this point it basically just runs itself, and they're just
Speaker 2: a part of the click at this point, and they're
Speaker 2: just they're kind of letting the system. Like you said,
Speaker 2: the train's running. They don't have to worry about who's
Speaker 2: conducting it. It's being driven by AI. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're in a luxury car and they're fine with it.
Speaker 2: And I think that's more or less the whole overarching
Speaker 2: theme here for sure.
Speaker 3: God in eighteen eighty there was a really strange I
Speaker 3: just feel like this has something to do with that shift.
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt put on this huge Freemasonic ritual in New York
Speaker 3: City in eighteen eighty one. I think where that's the
Speaker 3: moment when he brought in Cleopatra's needle, this obelisk imported
Speaker 3: from Egypt. It's ridiculous. If you see pictures of this
Speaker 3: thing on the boat, it's like bigger than the boat.
Speaker 3: They somehow got it over here and they set up
Speaker 3: in Central Park, and you know, this is a it's
Speaker 3: been a courtyard for the elite ever since. It acts
Speaker 3: as the courtyard for the met Gala where all the
Speaker 3: hollyweirds get together every year. That's that's there, like charge
Speaker 3: it up in some type of a weird way. But
Speaker 3: in eighteen eighty Vanderbilt brings it over. They get thousands
Speaker 3: of Freemasons out there and they have a ceremony, a ritual.
Speaker 3: And he's a robber baron, he's a industrial revolutionist. And
Speaker 3: I see that group of robber barons who brought about
Speaker 3: the Industrial Revolution. That was, in my mind, the official
Speaker 3: takeover of America. Rockefellers, Vanderbilt's, Carnegie, JP Morgan, what they
Speaker 3: did bringing in the nine to five sort of zombie
Speaker 3: worker the US, but the lengthening the gap between us
Speaker 3: and them, especially on a monetary way, Like people are
Speaker 3: forever in this country trapped in you know, people are
Speaker 3: trapped in this blue collar sort of an existence. And
Speaker 3: there's nothing against that. Like a man that works hard.
Speaker 3: I've worked hard in my whole life. I respect it,
Speaker 3: I get it. But we do that because we can't
Speaker 3: sort of break through the ceiling to get to where
Speaker 3: they are. There's been so many restrictions put on it
Speaker 3: is so hard to break into. It's getting harder to
Speaker 3: break into the middle class even these days. This is
Speaker 3: all stuff that brought in by the industrial revolutionists, these guys,
Speaker 3: and I just don't see it as a coincidence that
Speaker 3: he's one of the guys that had this major ritual
Speaker 3: brings in, you know, Egyptian cosmology and all this this
Speaker 3: old god stuff in New York City back in the
Speaker 3: eighteen eighties. That's that's when they brought into the Smithsonian
Speaker 3: and started cleaning up history. There's so much stuff another
Speaker 3: you know, another year for you at eighteen eighty. It
Speaker 3: was a big year for these people for taking the
Speaker 3: reins of control.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at the modern version of that.
Speaker 2: We have the Technocrats, yes, robber barons. Brother, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: Tim Constantine. We want to thank you for coming onto
Speaker 2: the show this episode. If you could give yourself all
Speaker 2: of the shameless plugs, go ahead, brother, Thanks man.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it too.
Speaker 5: I hope that you get to come back on and
Speaker 5: we get to talk more about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should. There's I mean with this subject. There's
Speaker 3: a part two, there's a part three, there's a part whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, this one just keeps going. This is one
Speaker 3: of those those bottomless rabbit holes as well. I love it.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys today, like great conversation, great input,
Speaker 3: like this thing just that was like the quickest two
Speaker 3: hours of my life.
Speaker 4: Man, it was very quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I could totally talk about this stuff for a long time.
Speaker 5: It's very fascinating. And I wrote down in quite a
Speaker 5: few of your books because we're having a book club
Speaker 5: on the Cold Conspiracy and we're starting next month, and
Speaker 5: so I'll add some of the books that you mentioned
Speaker 5: though to our pot and so.
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll get drawn.
Speaker 5: Maybe we can actually because there's quite a few of
Speaker 5: them that I haven't read so I was sitting here
Speaker 5: taking notes as you were talking about people and stuff.
Speaker 3: So cool cool. I'd love to see it make the list.
Speaker 3: But yeah, my name is Tim Constantine. My show is
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Speaker 3: have an Instagram, and I do drop new episodes every
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Speaker 3: do a Sunday show called it Conspiracy Guard. So thanks
Speaker 3: again for having me.
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