1 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,599 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,439 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,519 --> 00:00:16,679 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:19,199 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,120 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,320 your support. So, the North Carolina Senate passes a bill, 10 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:34,520 according to the w r A L headline, passes a 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:42,200 bill targeting gender public school discussions. It was actually it 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,359 was a bill to you know, address women and minor 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,359 exploitation online crack down on some of these the sextortion 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,479 scams that people are doing against a lot of young boys. 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,359 Actually they'll meet them in gaming chat rooms and such 16 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,400 and the little the like if you're playing a multiplayer 17 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:10,799 online game with other people, they pose as as young 18 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:12,959 kids and then they get them to send they you know, 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,239 they take to a private chat they're like, oh, send 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,680 me some picks and whatever, and then they get the 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,560 kid to do, you know, send a picture of a 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,519 you know them naked or something, and then they say, 23 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:24,200 all right, I'm going to send this to everybody. If 24 00:01:24,239 --> 00:01:28,200 you don't send me money, I'm going to share it online. 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,959 I'm gonna do all this. I'm gonna ruin your life. 26 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:34,519 And this is an attempt to crack down on that behavior. 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,640 It's also an attempt to crack down on like human 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:43,000 trafficking that is occurring on these websites, the porn websites 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,599 and stuff. You know, sets criteria for you know, written 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,239 consent and age verification of all the people in the videos, 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,200 and you know, if anybody complains they want their stuff 32 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:56,959 taken down, you have to comply within seventy two hours. 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,319 They're ten thousand dollars a day fines attached to stuff. 34 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,319 So it's an attempt to get at that. And that 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,920 was the original bill that came out of the House, 36 00:02:03,959 --> 00:02:06,359 that was unanimous in the House, went to the Senate, 37 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,960 and then the Senate added several provisions. I went over 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,759 them in the last hour. Definitions of male and female, 39 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:18,800 boy and girl, man and woman. And this, of course 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,240 now has got the Democrats outraged. The bars state prisons 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,639 from using state taxpayer funds to pay for sex reassignment surgery. 42 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:33,319 For inmates, their identification or the ID documentation stuff. I 43 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,319 did mention this last hour. Let me go ahead and 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,479 try to find it here in the bill. It's cause 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,439 of action for malpractice. You get shelby. So a ten 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,560 year clock starts running if you want to sue if 47 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:51,319 you went you know, through surgeries, transition surgeries and stuff, 48 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:54,919 and you want to sue because you feel you were harmed. 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,879 The clock runs for ten years, and it starts from 50 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,759 the time of discovery by the injured party of both 51 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:10,360 the injury and the causal relationship between the treatment and 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,879 the injury. Okay, so ten years. And my reading of 53 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:19,199 that is it's not simply when the surgery occurred. If 54 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,639 you then figure out five years after the surgery occurred, 55 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:25,800 or let me say, eleven years after the surgery occurred, 56 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 that now you're like, whoa this, I should never have 57 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:31,680 had this done. I think the clock would start running 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,680 at that point, from the moment you realize that there's 59 00:03:35,719 --> 00:03:39,919 a causal relationship between the treatment and the injury. Wil 60 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,840 simply said it was after the treatment or the surgery, 61 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:46,120 and I don't think that's the case. My reading of 62 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,159 the legislation and a medical professional or entity may not 63 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,840 seek a contractual waiver of this liability, so you cannot 64 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:04,280 wave this away. You can be held civilly liable for this. 65 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,080 I'm looking for the part about the here it is. 66 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,439 It's the last section. When the sex of a person 67 00:04:14,639 --> 00:04:18,920 is changed on an amended or new birth certificate issued, 68 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:24,839 the state registrar shall attach the new certificate to the 69 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:30,240 certificate of birth then on file, and shall preserve both 70 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,560 certificates as a multi page document. The state Registrar shall 71 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,439 forward a copy of the new certificate to the Register 72 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:41,000 of Deeds of the county of birth. The Register of 73 00:04:41,079 --> 00:04:44,240 Deeds of that county of birth shall attach the new 74 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:47,319 certificate to the copy of the certificate of birth that's 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,959 on file. The Register of Deeds shall preserve both certificates 76 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,879 as a multi page document. And thereafter, when a certified 77 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,399 copy of the certificate of birth of the person is shoot, 78 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:06,240 it shall be a copy of the multi page document. Okay, 79 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,639 So it's saying if somebody has a sex change operation, 80 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,160 they now you know, I'm living my life as the 81 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,519 alternate sex and I want a new birth certificate. Or 82 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,079 I came from a state that issued me a new 83 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:23,399 birth certificate. Your file is going to have two birth certificates, 84 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,360 and I'm fine with that. Unlike the WRAL story where 85 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:35,399 it says require transgender North Carolinians to use their original 86 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:40,680 birth certificate and official transactions. I don't did I read 87 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,199 anything that said that, so I don't really know. I mean, 88 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,079 maybe they're just ripping off of the Democrat press release 89 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,920 on that. I'm not really sure. Okay, So that's what 90 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,480 the Senate added. They added a bunch of these provisions. 91 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,519 There's some school library related stuff too. So Democrats are 92 00:05:56,519 --> 00:05:58,680 all outraged about this because they wanted to vote for 93 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,759 the anti sex store legislation, as their colleagues over in 94 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,439 the House did, but now they're not going to be 95 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,360 able to because they're going to be seen as anti 96 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:12,439 trans right and they can't do that. But they can't 97 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,759 say no. They don't want to vote no either because 98 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,319 if they vote no, then they could be accused of 99 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,480 being anti sextortion, like, oh, you're not protecting the kids 100 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:26,879 from sextortion, right, Oh, what to do? Yes, that's what 101 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,120 happens when you run so far out that you're you're, 102 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,759 you know, way out of the boundaries of the of 103 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,519 the norm, and you're afraid of being punished because your 104 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,120 base is way out there beyond the boundaries of the norm. 105 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,279 Here is Senator Sophia Chitlick. That's her name. She's from 106 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:48,839 Durham and she is a Democrat. 107 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:53,079 Speaker 2: My Democratic colleagues and I remain focused on protecting women 108 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,120 and girls along with many of you, which is why 109 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,639 we actually filed dozens of bills this year. 110 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: What's a woman or a girl? You don't want those definitions, 111 00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:04,839 but yet you claim to be see because they will 112 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,160 say a woman and a girl is also a boy 113 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,759 who identifies as a girl. So we're protecting that person too, 114 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,040 that boy, but we're also protecting women and girls because 115 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,399 that boy is also a girl. See, makes perfect sense. 116 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,519 Speaker 3: To do just that. 117 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,759 Speaker 2: None of those bills involved denying trans, intersex and non 118 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,360 binary people the ability to live with dignity. 119 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,199 Speaker 1: This bill doesn't do that either. There's nothing in here 120 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,160 that undignifies anybody. There isn't. But this is all the 121 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:38,399 Democrats have, are these empty hollow slogans. 122 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,879 Speaker 2: Because that is inherently in conflict with the goal of 123 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,920 protecting all women. Unfortunately, again, none of these bills made 124 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,319 it out of committee. The good news is that it's 125 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,759 not too late to tackle the sexual exploitation of women 126 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:52,879 and girls, and of course of young men as well. 127 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,600 We have a great process to do that, and a 128 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:59,079 lot of people in this room who again care deeply about. 129 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:04,639 Speaker 1: Women and girls, but we just can't define what those are. 130 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,959 This is the insanity, right that you end up when 131 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:15,000 you start promoting insane vocabulary changes, when you adopt insane ideology, 132 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,519 and then you try to argue, you can't argue from 133 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:24,360 a logical, sane perspective. It's not working. And it's a 134 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,240 point that was not lost on the Republicans in that 135 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:32,480 chamber either. Here's the part about the schools. There are 136 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,799 a couple things. Local boards of education shall adopt policies 137 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,559 that do all of the following. Provide ongoing public access 138 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,159 through a searchable web based catalog to the titles of 139 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,679 any library books available at each school within that school 140 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,759 administrative unit. Each school shall display its catalog on the 141 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,240 home page of its website. Okay, so you'll be able 142 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,919 to see every book that libraries are stocking on the 143 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,840 shelves at your kid's school, and the district will have 144 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,399 a list of all the books that are available in 145 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:08,360 all schools. Also, the district shall allow a parent or 146 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:12,200 guardian of a student to identify any library book that 147 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,480 may not be borrowed by the student. A student shall 148 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,240 not be permitted to borrow any library books identified by 149 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,159 the student's parent or guardian pursu into the subdivision. So, 150 00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:23,200 if I, as a parent, do not want my kid 151 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:26,000 reading a particular book, I will tell the library, don't 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,960 give my kid that book, do not let my kid 153 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,240 check that book out, and then the school library must 154 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,080 comply with that. And this is also an outrage to 155 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,399 the Democrats. You'll hear some of their arguments, and they 156 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 are stupid, all right. 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Another provision of this bill it would excuse 178 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,120 students with religious objections to Local boards of education shall 179 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:54,399 adopt policies to allow a student or the student's parent 180 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,960 or guardian to request that the student be excused from 181 00:10:57,039 --> 00:11:02,080 specific classroom discussions, activities, or assigned readings that the student, parent, 182 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,240 or guardian beliefs would impose a substantial burden on the 183 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,399 student's religious beliefs or invade the student's privacy by calling 184 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,600 attention to the student's religion. To the extent practicable, the 185 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:17,080 local board of education shall provide advanced notice to students, parents, 186 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,440 and guardians of the discussions, activities, or assigned readings. If 187 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,240 a student is excused from a classroom in discussion activity 188 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,360 or assigned reading, the school shall provide the student with 189 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,159 an alternative activity or assignment aligned with the standard course 190 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:34,879 of study. See again, this is all in reaction to 191 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:42,320 the left's constant push of queer theory, critical race theory, right, 192 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:46,600 like all of these leftist neo Marxist Graham Sheean long 193 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:50,440 March through the institution crap. And so this is why 194 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,480 the legislature is doing this stuff. It's to rain you in. 195 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:57,759 You guys are supposed to be doing like the most basic, 196 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:03,399 bland like lowest common denominator type of stuff in the schools, 197 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,360 like teaching people how to read. But no, you use 198 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,840 these as playgrounds for your activism. And so now, yes, 199 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:14,679 here's the reaction. This is the HB two reaction to 200 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:17,440 you guys going radical in the city of Charlotte with 201 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:23,240 your bathroom ortnets. Right, that's how we get here. Also, 202 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,960 you're not allowed to have students of opposite sex share 203 00:12:29,639 --> 00:12:33,000 sleeping quarters when you're on a school trip. Not allowed 204 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:35,000 to do that unless it's like your sibling, if it's 205 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:36,759 your brother or sister or whatever. Then you are allowed 206 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:38,480 to do that, but if it's not your sibling, you 207 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,039 don't get to assign the hotel rooms on the overnight trips. 208 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,320 So all of this is obviously outrageous to Democrats here. 209 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Senator Greg Meyer, Democrat from Orange County, he opposed the 210 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:59,639 bill because the North caro because of the id requirements 211 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,000 on these sex identification. 212 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: I think that one thing we can all agree on 213 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,200 is that we want every North Carolinian, no matter who 214 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:10,120 they are, to be able to have a safe place 215 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:13,840 to live, a job that they can support their family, 216 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:18,360 to be able to travel freely, all things that require 217 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,919 a form of identification. And when we say that we 218 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,720 want all North Carolinians to be able to do that, 219 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,440 that means that we want transgender or intersexual North Carolinians 220 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,559 to have the same ability to do that as everyone 221 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:36,240 else they do. Other than that the ability to have 222 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,080 those freedoms, most trans folks just want to be left 223 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,000 alone by us. Yeah. 224 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not so sure about that anymore. Greg, I 225 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:51,039 don't and I'm not so sure about that. When you're 226 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,320 trying to force everybody to say certain things, do certain things, 227 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,799 act certain ways, right, when you're like I'm going to 228 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:05,320 win all of your medals and trophies and scholarships because 229 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:07,840 I'm born a male and your born female. But I'm 230 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,279 going to identify as a female, and I'm going to 231 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,120 compete against you in your sports and take all of 232 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,720 your scholarship money. That I'm not so sure that that's 233 00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:17,679 just you wanting to be left alone, you know, a 234 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,360 little bit of the difference. And I say that as 235 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:23,120 as like a tea party guy, lowercase libertarian, very much 236 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,159 would like to be left alone. So it's always interesting 237 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,440 to hear Democrats talking about respecting people who want to 238 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,879 be left alone, because they literally do not do that 239 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,799 in anything else. 240 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: By everybody else. This bill makes it harder for them 241 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,639 to pursue the freedoms that all of us enjoy and 242 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:45,320 all of us, I think, believe that everyone should have. 243 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:49,000 And so i'd encourage you to vote against this bill 244 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 given the way that it would restrict freedom for those 245 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,879 members of the North Carolina community. Thank you. 246 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,039 Speaker 1: Okay, it doesn't restrict anybody's freedom, So here is Terrence Everett, 247 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Democrat from Wait County, said the law does not define 248 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,159 what a religious objection is, which would allow students to 249 00:15:07,159 --> 00:15:10,639 be excused from classroom discussions that the parent believes would 250 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:14,200 be a quote substantial burden. So it's not just a 251 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,279 trifling right. It's a substantial burden. But the law doesn't 252 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,200 define it. So oh my gosh, Like, what what else 253 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,519 could happen? What kind of abuses here could have been? 254 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: There's no mainstream religion that teaches that exposure to an 255 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,320 idea or learning is somehow a burden on your faith. 256 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not so sure about that either, dude. There's 257 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,919 one particular religion mainstream that comes to the top of 258 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,919 my mind where they're not too cool with education, particularly 259 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,240 for women, which I can define for you. It's in 260 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:50,960 the bill here. 261 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:58,759 Speaker 4: Now, Christianity, not Judaism, Islam, well out my God, not Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, 262 00:15:59,039 --> 00:16:04,720 or really every single one of those religions prizes education. 263 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it doesn't. Not Islam, dude, particularly as it's 264 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:15,279 practiced in like I don't know most of the Muslim world. Okay, 265 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,600 maybe not most half, let's say half, how about the 266 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:23,360 Middle East? That's what I mean. The absurdity of these arguments, 267 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:27,919 this is Western conceit, this idea that oh they think 268 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 just like us. There are a lot of people that don't. Man, 269 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,480 they really don't, and learning. 270 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:41,559 Speaker 4: That language does not reflect an actual theological concern, but 271 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:47,200 rather a political strategy. It's not about protecting faith. No 272 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,840 religion actually needs to be protected from education. So instead 273 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 of supporting parents and teaching our kids, schools has now 274 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:02,279 created an opt out bureaucracy based on fear. As a 275 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:05,440 public school parent, I just want my kids to be 276 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,319 able to go to school and learn. 277 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,599 Speaker 1: What you want them to learn. How about this, What 278 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,599 if they were teaching the kids that homosexuality was a sin? 279 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,240 Would you object to that? Of course you would, right, 280 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:22,000 of course you would. Well what about the people who 281 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:26,400 think it is a sin and they're being taught their 282 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,680 kids are being taught the opposite. Oh, we see, that's 283 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,720 because we are right, thinks the Democrat. That's what I mean. 284 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,240 Stop dealing with this stuff, Stop putting it into the curriculum, 285 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:40,920 Stop trying to enforce these new ways of thinking onto 286 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,599 everybody else's kids. If you stop that, you don't see 287 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:46,240 these reactions. 288 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,799 Speaker 4: Without constant interruption from other people's political agendas. And if 289 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,519 along the way my kids learn that there are gay 290 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:56,079 people in the world, I'm okay with that. 291 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:59,039 Speaker 1: Ah see, there you go. Oh, I'm just learning. My 292 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,960 kids are just learning that there are gay people in 293 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,160 the world. That's all. This is doing nothing more. 294 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 4: I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but all of 295 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,000 our kids and all of our grandkids are going to 296 00:18:09,079 --> 00:18:13,440 figure that out eventually. And when they do, I hope 297 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,880 they have the education that sets them up for something 298 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,279 more in life than just spending their time attacking other 299 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:22,119 people's kids. 300 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: What a what a straw man. 301 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 302 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,839 Speaker 4: As much as the far right would like to talk 303 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:33,119 about public schools pushing political agendas, this bill is a 304 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,079 political agenda. 305 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, public schools are political, buddy. You know how? 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He 333 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,039 is a Democrat, and he also opposed the newly added 334 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:24,200 provision that would create a searchable internet database for school 335 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,359 library books. 336 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: Didn't like it, And obviously there are problems. Relying simply 337 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,720 on titles of books says nothing about character development, how 338 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:38,400 they deal with difficult issues, and what the student actually 339 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,759 takes away from the book. 340 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, dude, it's because there are books that 341 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,279 we know of that you guys keep putting on the 342 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:52,799 shelves in K through twelve schools and parents have objected 343 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:55,640 to those books. You cannot even read the material at 344 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,119 a school board meeting without being shut down or escorted 345 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:06,160 out by law enforce for vulgarity, profanity, lewdness. Right, So, like, oh, 346 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,160 don't tell me you can't judge a book by its cover. 347 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,480 I don't need to know what's in the book because 348 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:12,200 I know the title of the book, and I've read 349 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,240 the research from the people who have read the book, 350 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,480 and they say this is inappropriate, and they'll show me 351 00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:19,279 some pictures of what's in the book, and no, that's inappropriate. 352 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,559 Age appropriate material is what we're talking about. But you 353 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,200 don't want parents to know the books on the shelves 354 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,880 of their own kids' schools. You want to blind parents 355 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:36,240 to what their kids are learning. That's the point. It 356 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,119 is indoctrination. It is getting them comfortable with ideas, making 357 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,160 them doubt things about themselves, being told this is totally 358 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,079 normal when it hasn't been, but you want it to be. 359 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,359 Give me the generation. I will give you the revolution. 360 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: And it turns teachers and librarians into compliance officers. And 361 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,480 we're turning parenting into essentially a search filter. No, which 362 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:03,920 is how you use Amazon. 363 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:06,799 Speaker 1: So do parents, by the way, do parents do search 364 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:10,160 filters for the movies and the shows that their children watch. 365 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:13,640 If I'm a parent and I take my kid to 366 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,640 a bookstore to buy books, do I apply any kind 367 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,319 of a filter at that point of sale? Of course 368 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,480 I do. Of course parents do that, But you are 369 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,680 trying to blind them. 370 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 4: It's not how you raise a kid. Yeah, commerce there 371 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,119 are a group I think Moms for. 372 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Liberty, oh Boogodie. 373 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 4: Yelling about you know, warning us to know what our 374 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:43,119 kids are reading. I do appreciate the advice. I know 375 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,160 what my kids are reading because I talk to my kids. 376 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,759 I don't rely on the school to provide me. Cliff 377 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,960 notes on parenting to know what's going on in their lives. 378 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,880 We have so little time with our kids. It is 379 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,839 so finite where we get to find out what's going 380 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,759 on in their lives. We should not be passing that 381 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,759 off to schools or to legislators. And if your kids 382 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,880 aren't talking to you, maybe they're not ready, and that's okay. 383 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: But don't worry. We've got some blue hair gender queer 384 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,279 expert at the school. They'll talk to your kid. They'll 385 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:21,799 get nice and cozy with your kid, because your kid 386 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,799 may not want to talk to you because you're not ready, 387 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,480 or maybe they're not ready. But I'm a good parent 388 00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:29,240 because I know everything my kid is reading. Do you 389 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,119 do you know every website your kid's going to, every 390 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,079 TikTok video they watch? Do you know all of that? Really, 391 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,240 even the best parents have a hard time tracking all 392 00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:43,480 of this stuff. But you can catch the underlying tone, 393 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,480 which is I'm a better parent than you. And this 394 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,400 is really an effort to empower moms for liberty. Those 395 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,279 monsters who just want to know what's being given to 396 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,519 their kids. Maybe they don't think you're ready. 397 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,319 Speaker 4: Either way, Parental rights, just like every other right, comes 398 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,559 with responsibility. And it's a responsibility that can't be outsourced 399 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:10,599 to a search engine or to a media specialist. 400 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: And that's actually not what's happening here at all. It 401 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:16,680 is putting the responsibility on the parent because they're saying, 402 00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:18,440 here are all the books, and then it's up to 403 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,799 the parent to look at the list of books and 404 00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:22,599 to say I don't want my kid reading those books, 405 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,440 or to say I don't have any problem with my 406 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,000 kid reading those See, he's got it exactly backwards. But again, 407 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,119 I sympathize with the left and trying to argue this 408 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,759 stuff because it's completely illogical and irrational to make the arguments. 409 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:37,880 I would have a very difficult time making these kinds 410 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:45,119 of arguments because they are so stupid. Lisa Grafstein. Oh, 411 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,880 by the way, there is one other thing here. What 412 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,039 if your kid doesn't tell you? What if your kid 413 00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:55,680 is hiding stuff from you? Right? What then? How is 414 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,119 a parent supposed to know this stuff? Oh, don't worry. 415 00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:04,000 To folks like Terrence Everett, that's okay. Also right, it's 416 00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:06,559 okay to keep stuff from your parents. You should keep 417 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:10,880 secrets from your parents about this kind of stuff. And 418 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,720 that's actually not good parental advice at all. But he's 419 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:18,240 assuming he knows everything that his kids are doing. That's 420 00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,200 quite an assumption. And what I would say about that, 421 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,880 Hang on a second. This is Lisa grafsteam Democrat from Wake. 422 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480 She says it's inappropriate to inject these definitions of male 423 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:30,559 and female into law. 424 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,039 Speaker 5: And what I would say about that is it's really 425 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:38,559 not appropriate. You know, we've eliminated the idea of debate 426 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,519 and differences of opinion. We've outlawed so called divisive concepts 427 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:46,000 in schools and in our public employment. But what this 428 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,279 bill is doing is is picking an ideology to put 429 00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:50,039 into law. 430 00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:54,079 Speaker 1: And it's not mine, and that's my objection. That's what's 431 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,000 going on here. You've got the right that is fighting 432 00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:00,640 back and saying you do not control the culture. 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So Democrats, they did not vote along the lines. 460 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,720 They did not vote to support these changes in the legislation. 461 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,359 They then refuse to vote yes or no, and those 462 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,200 are the only votes you get, yes or no, and that, 463 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:54,440 according to the Republicans, is against Rule twenty nine A. Instead, 464 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,519 they tried to vote present, and that's one of the 465 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:00,640 options available. Senate Leader President pro Tem Burger made a 466 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,240 motion that under rule twenty nine E, anybody who voted 467 00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:08,480 present would be excused from voting on the bill, and 468 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:10,720 that means you can't vote on any amendment to the 469 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:13,079 bill or any vote on the bill ever, again, which 470 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,160 means what veto override, You would not be able to 471 00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:19,640 vote if the governor veto's it. So Democrats didn't want 472 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,440 that either, So then they had a recess. Everybody like 473 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:24,799 pow wowed and that I talked about what the strategy 474 00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,480 would be. They recess, they come back, and that's when 475 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,960 Democrats try another tactic. 476 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 6: I'm moving to adjourn until June thirtieth at noon, and 477 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,440 I'll tell you why uh uh whoao, Because if we 478 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:44,559 allow this rule to be exercised twenty nine E, that 479 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,599 forces the silencing of an entire caucus. 480 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,599 Speaker 4: That is an assault on the democratic process. 481 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: A raven for what purpose? Do your A motion to 482 00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:01,880 adjourn is non debatable motion. Yeah, so shut up, Michael Garrett, 483 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Democrat from Guilford. That's essentially what he said. It's not debatable. 484 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,559 You made a motion to adjourn. That's it. You don't 485 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,240 get to debate it. Okay, it's a non debatable motion, 486 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,440 and it's not silencing you. You're the guys who said president, 487 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,680 you silenced yourselves. Good grief man. That motion, by the way, failed, 488 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,599 So then they had to settle the issue of whether 489 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,119 their votes of president should be counted as an excused absence. 490 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,039 Here's Sidney Batch. 491 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,519 Speaker 7: None of the members who actually voted president asked for 492 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:37,200 an excuse absence. In our rules, it says that a 493 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:41,359 member shall vote. It does not, in our rules say 494 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,440 that they shall vote yay or nay. 495 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: It says they shall vote okay. So that was their 496 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,400 argument from Sidney Batch. Democrat Minority Leader Ralph Hyes from 497 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:57,880 I think he's out of Mitchell County maybe anyway, he 498 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680 said there are only three options for senator to vote, 499 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,119 and present is not one of them. 500 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,799 Speaker 8: I think it is evidently clear that votes in the 501 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:11,119 Senate are recorded as yes or no. Notice you have 502 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,319 a green button and a red button, not an extra 503 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,039 whatever I came up with today button that's coming in 504 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,519 we call for call for the eyes and nose is 505 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:27,400 also an option that exists within our rules. The alternative 506 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,680 to give voting yes or no under our rules is 507 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:36,160 to be excused from voting. We saw Senator Bergen with 508 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160 a deal dealing with car dealerships, send forth to be 509 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:43,000 excused from voting. At the point he sends forth his 510 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:48,319 excuse from voting, he is excused from voting. Those are 511 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:53,079 the options under the Senate rules. Each member who did 512 00:30:53,119 --> 00:31:00,079 not vote's name was called three times they refused to vote. Well, 513 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,759 now under this motion, give them the option for the 514 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,640 only alternative in the Senate when they derelicted their duty 515 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,559 to vote, which is the name of the rule for 516 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:15,599 the Senate that they all voted for when the rules 517 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,640 were passed, that we are giving the option that we 518 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,839 would declare that they are excused from voting. Those are 519 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000 the options of the Senate. 520 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: So Democrats then argued, well, one member of the Senate 521 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,599 cannot excuse another member under the rule. Only I can 522 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,960 excuse myself. Okay, so now it looks like we're going 523 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,400 to need another rule. I guess right. We're going to 524 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,359 have to now because Democrats keep playing these games. We're 525 00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:42,599 going to now have to have a rule that says 526 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,599 yes or no only. That's it, no present right to 527 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,119 make any non excused vote. This is how you end 528 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,160 up member the city council. They took those votes behind 529 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,559 closed doors, and some people who left the meeting, and 530 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,319 then their vote got counted as a YA in favor 531 00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:59,960 of the settlement for the police chief, and everybody was 532 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,319 It's like, well, why would they automatically get a vote 533 00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:06,480 as a yes. This is why you get lawmakers that 534 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,759 play these stupid games, and then you end up having 535 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:14,000 to write a rule that somehow limits the stupid game 536 00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:17,519 from being played. But here's something else. Senator Benton Sorry 537 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,279 from Johnston County Republican. He cited the state Constitution. 538 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 9: Here, the ya's and kna's up on any question shall 539 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:27,480 be taken and entered upon the journal. There's no further option. 540 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,119 It's a constitutional obligation. It's a statutory obligation. We have 541 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,799 the duty to record our vote. It's important for our 542 00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:36,160 constituents to know where we stand and not just simply 543 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,839 vote present. 544 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,279 Speaker 1: There you go. It's in the state Constitution. You record 545 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:44,160 the ya's and the knas. That's it. No present, you 546 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,200 don't get to decide. I'm just present. I don't want 547 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,559 to take a hard vote, so I'm just going to 548 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:54,000 vote present. But once again, Democrats have no limiting principles here. 549 00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,119 There's nothing that stops them from going over the cliff. 550 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,160 There's no guardrail there, they can never go to far are. 551 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,599 So they will constantly manipulate and try all of these 552 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,839 different tactics in order to not get jammed up for 553 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,000 their own political skins. And so now they're going to 554 00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:14,799 have to pass another rule. I guess that says. To 555 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:18,319 be clear, Democrats, this is what the rule says. You 556 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240 have to vote yes or no. There is no present, 557 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,400 there's no abstaining. There's an excuse you can do. I 558 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160 have an excuse. You can take a walk and leave. 559 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,519 But that's it. Then Senator Batch said, well, the original 560 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,480 law from like two hundred years ago lays out a 561 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,559 penalty for failing to fulfill your obligation to vote. 562 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 7: What it does say if we don't actually move, and 563 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,480 we don't and we don't discharge our duty, which I 564 00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,519 assume that my colleagues are saying today, it's a ten 565 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:57,440 dollars fine. I have ten dollars for every single one 566 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,000 of the members in my caucus who voted present. I 567 00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:04,839 will dispense with this and give it to the clerk 568 00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:07,240 so that we can put this to bed. It is 569 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,840 a ten dollars fine, and I have twenty bills in 570 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,320 front of me. 571 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: There you go. 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