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Speaker 2: Don't feel like I'm worse saveding, just a dum screwed

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up kid.

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Speaker 3: But you gave me home. You spoken to my darkness,

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and you showed me the light.

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Speaker 2: In your glow, I'm seeing for the first time.

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Speaker 3: There's still food on the fire.

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Speaker 2: There's a fire burning in my ches, helping me to

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see the truth.

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Speaker 3: In spite of all my anxious feeds.

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Speaker 2: This love has made me rizled.

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Speaker 1: Keep it burning, war to keep it burning.

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Speaker 3: More.

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Speaker 2: I am alive and nothing's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna change that.

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Speaker 2: A living fear of showing who I really am and fall.

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Speaker 3: In apart like a spy. You slip past my defense

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is and you found me out. Piece by piece. You're

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taking off this army. I don't need it now.

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Speaker 2: There's a fire burning the matches, and.

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Speaker 3: You're the one that put it there.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't lit by anyone. No one has loved me

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with that, butch Cave.

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Speaker 1: You keep it burning, war, keeping burning, world.

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Speaker 3: There's a fire burning in.

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Speaker 2: My chest, helping me to see the truth in spite

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of all my anxious fees.

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Speaker 3: Just love has made me.

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Speaker 1: Rezled, keeping burning, Oh.

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Speaker 3: You keep it burning.

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Speaker 4: Matt Litzinger here with us live in studio. So I

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love by the way, thank you for bringing us, and

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I'm gonna for people watching online. I'm gonna hold up

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the CD. There we go, this CD you brought us,

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Keep it Burning? And that was the title track, of course,

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that we opened the show with. Where did you record this?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the cool things about this project I

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recorded it at my home studio. I really enjoy the

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process of, like watching the songs evolve. Sometimes studio time

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doesn't really like work well with that because you're kind

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of locked in. You know, you've got these hours of

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these days, right, and so these songs have kind of

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evolved over the past six nine months as I've worked

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on different demos for them leading up to it, and

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working at home just helps to make that a little easier.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool to have that freedom and flexibility to

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do it that way. Have you always recorded that way

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or have you ever have? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Mostly just had a necessity with this project. I did

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raise money on Kickstarter to help fund it. Yeah, and

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studio time involved with that? And I really like the

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process of, you know, wearing the different hats all the

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way down the process. So yeah, writing the songs, engineering it,

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mixing it all the way through.

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Speaker 4: So that's an advantage too, that you enjoy doing all

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that part, because a lot of musicians don't like doing

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that part, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my brain like, I like, you have to kind

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of turn off the right side, left side thing, but

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I like to eventually turn that off and move into

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more of the engineering, you know, make it sound good

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side of things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Is this the first full length album

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that you've released is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's that's a big one for me. It's

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been like EPs and singles up until this point.

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Speaker 4: What made you decide to do a full length? Did

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it just seem like time.

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Speaker 5: Or yeah, time would be the easiest way to say it.

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So I had I'd had two kids over the past

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those songs are stacked up and I'm happy with a

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lot of those. So I sat down in February wrote

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it just makes sense. Sure I can carve out time

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this year to work on a whole project.

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Speaker 4: And who else is on the album with you? Or

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Speaker 5: So this is all me except for on Gather Me Up.

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My wife plays violin, Oh a big thing because she's

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really great violinist, but hardly played, so it takes a

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lot of convincing. So it's great to get hurt on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Do you play out a lot? Do

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you do a lot off too? Yeah?

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and stuff around town quite a bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. The great thing about you know what you do,

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have vigil coming in. I don't know if you know them,

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but they're loud and they're heavy, and you know, so

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you can probably play anywhere, and I bet You've played

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some interesting place for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in town, Like I'm thinking small rooms

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where it's just like, you know, you're kind of in

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a corner or a bigger, bigger venues. But yeah, I

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now all the way down to like small bar gigs.

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went to school in Indiana and then have lived here

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for the past like ten years. Oh okay, and so yeah,

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southern New Hampshire mostly Manchester. I play some out towards

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the Sea coast a little bit like when Sawbelly was

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out there. I'd go out and play out that way.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, what brought you to New Hampshire?

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Speaker 5: My wife? Yeah, so she's from Chester. We met in

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Speaker 4: Oh, in Indiana, came back here here. Oh cool, cool, excellent, excellent.

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Well I'm doning here you play live? You want to

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play something for sure?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, So I'll start out. This first song is

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called Restless Wings. There's a song about I tend to

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be kind of a homebody, and so this song is

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about watching somebody who you love need to go off

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and like travel a world, you know, so I really

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enjoy that, and trying to come to grips with the

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fact that, like they still love you when they're out there,

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even though like you don't hear from them as often.

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Speaker 4: All right, very good, Matt Litzinger, live in studio with us.

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Speaker 2: Here we are again saying ah goodbyes. And then and

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how you will be far above the clouds. I'll be

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looking u at the stars de night, wondering how long

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to come back around. It's a mystery to a man

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like me, how you set your sights on distant shores.

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Each time you return, I see your fires burned, and

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it's not long before you're calling.

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Speaker 3: Out for more.

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Speaker 2: Your restless ways get lighter. Look in that the sky.

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It's when you roll home. That's when you're most love.

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My grounded hard it wishes you could stay. I wondered, dude,

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you miss me when you fly, and as I wait

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for you to return to me, I wonder if you

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feel pull of my heart on yours. That's a line

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bed thoughts are a mess, dream you walking back through

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my door. My bristless weeks get lighter looking that the

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sky's when you mess when you're most allahah, my grounded

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hard it wishes you could stay. I wondered, dude, you

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miss me when you fly.

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Speaker 3: Away.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to stay with me here, I

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just want to know this love story. When you're out there,

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you're restless weeks, get lighter.

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Speaker 6: Look in that the sky because.

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Speaker 2: When you row mess, when you're most alive, grounded hardy

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wishes you could stay. I wandered, dude, you miss me when.

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Speaker 6: You fly away?

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Speaker 4: Beautiful?

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Speaker 5: That was Guardians I think so much.

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Speaker 7: Oh that was gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: If you are, you're.

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Speaker 7: Getting love in the chat room already loving this song.

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Can't wait to hear more.

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Speaker 4: Says Jay. Excellent, excellent, Yes, if you are just joining us,

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We have a Matt Litzinger with us alive in studio

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this morning. Oh yeah, Jay Bellow of course from the

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band Chasing the Devil and U. But they're doing some

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big things, so very very proud of them. We've played

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a bunch of their music on the show absolutely and

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Jay has always been very supportive of the show. Too,

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so we appreciate that. But yes, Matt Litzinger is here

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with us in studio, and is that I assume that

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song is on the album or on there? Yeah it is, yeah, excellent, excellent.

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Do you play when you play out? Do you do

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long shows? You probably know a lot of songs. I

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assume you can do like three hour shows.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, three hours is kind of my well, four hours

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is now my max. But so yeah, I played a

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couple of farmers market gigs that were four hours.

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Speaker 4: Oh no kidding.

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and so it's kind of like that where you start

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you're like, I don't know if I could ever do

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hour gigs sucks, and then like you play a bunch

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you find that running helps you with your

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of it, but I'm sure it does. Like just like that,

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level of physical fitness. I broke a rib a long

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time ago. Oh no, on capacity isn't what it used

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to be. Really, hopefully that helps keep that up a

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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idea generator because like, similar to being in the shower,

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like a lot of ideas hit me on a run

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for a song or for like a part that I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you get the blood pumping

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and you know, the ghost to your brain, Oh yeah,

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get those neurons fire, and yeah, absolutely absolutely do you

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play You must play some covers too, I would imagine,

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because you don't have enough music to fill.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's our hour kind of balance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like you know, there's you gotta figure out what

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hat you're wearing. So like, if you're in a listening room,

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you want to play a lot of your stuff. People

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are there to sit and listen to you. Right if

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you're in a bar a restaurant, like people want to

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be entertained, and so some of the time. That's just like, oh,

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I want to hear a song that they're like, oh,

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that's a cool, interesting version of that song. I know,

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like I know this one, so yeah, try to mix

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Speaker 4: You've got a great voice, are you? Are you? Did

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you take any kind of lessons? Are you? Self taught?

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Speaker 4: Oh no kidding, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: So very formal. I'm not even sure if I consciously

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do anything that I was trained to do.

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Speaker 4: But right, right, well, but I'm sure subconc yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: Guitar is all self taught. Okay, So my kind of

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music journey with instrumentation is I started playing piano for

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nine years. Yeah, hated it, but like my parents made

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me stick with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I picked up drums on my own, loved playing drums,

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started to learn to play by music, and then picked

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up guitar and bass on my own after that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And somehow in that transition from piano to drums,

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took it and made it my own. And I was

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just like I love this, like I loved playing, so, like,

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I want to figure how to play more stuff.

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Speaker 4: Do you think learning the piano helped you to learn

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other instruments more quickly? Because something I hear a lot

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of people say, So, I'm a musician myself. I'm a

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bass player, but I never learned you know, I would, well,

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I would kind of noodle around a little bit on

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the keyboard when I was a kid, but I never

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really learned to play. But I've heard a lot of

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music instructors say that everybody should, no matter what instrument

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they play, everybody should start out on the keyboard, some

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sort of keyboard because that's such a great way to

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kind of kind of build your well a lot of

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things in terms of, you know, making sure you have

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a good ear, and also just you know, it's a

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good building block for whatever instrument you're going to play.

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So I'm curious in your case because you know, you

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didn't like it the piano, but you did it for

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nine years. So I assume I assume having done that,

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learning other instruments probably came pretty quickly to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think there's a couple of things wrapped

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up in that. For me, it's like the piano has

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a higher learning some instruments, like you can sit and

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figure out a chord shape on a guitar Souer right,

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But sometimes at the piano if you want something more

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than just one note melodies, learning from some you know book, uh,

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it can it can be difficult to feel like you're

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making momentum with that. But things like chord structure and

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even just visualizing the way the notes work on keyboards

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like the best way to conceptualize that. Yeah, so I

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think a lot of things that I now lean on

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with chord structure I learned from piano and now transferred

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to different instruments.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense, Yeah, I wish that I had done that,

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you know, I always had a keyboard too, I just

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never Yeah, I just I don't know, I guest I

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was kind of a lazy kid though too. I was

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one of those kids there if I wasn't good at

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something right away, I would just kind of that was that.

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Speaker 7: You sink I wanted to learn how to play piano

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so bad. Yeah, I put my kid in it and

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he hated it, and I, not being your parents, went Yeah.

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I always said I wasn't going to force him because

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I wanted him to do music because he wanted to, and.

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Speaker 4: He's a self taught guitar.

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Speaker 7: But I kind of wish I had made him do

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it because I know that he would have been able

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to read music and stuff if I had made him.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, kind of on the fence on

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that one, I.

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Speaker 5: Wish there was a better way to like tell kids,

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you don't have to stick with piano, like, just stick

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with this for now, right, because they look at you know,

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people shredding on guitar, like killing the drum exactly, and

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I want to do that, right, Yeah, you can do that,

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but start here because like you'll be so much better

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at that thing when you get there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, But I know what you mean too,

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Like it's like if you pick up a guitar and

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you just you know, if you learn power chords, you

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can go join a punk band pretty quickly.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it doesn't take much.

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Speaker 4: In my case, the reason I ended up playing bass

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was so I started on guitar, and I took guitar

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lessons for a couple of years, but I wasn't But again,

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I you know, I would get frustrated, I would get

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impatient with myself, and then in high school, I picked

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up a bass, and I know other bass players hey

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when I say this, but it's just the truth. I

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picked up a bass and I was like, oh, two

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fewer strings and I don't have to know any chords.

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I can do this, And and then I ended up.

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You know, I went on to play in a bunch

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of bands playing bass because But but I do think

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in my case though learning some things on guitar to

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the limited extent that I did, helped make me a

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better bass player, even though the way that I got

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to play and bass was again my my own laziness

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kind of came into play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And although like yeah, I think people like to

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crap on bass players a lot, But in my experience,

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the bass players I've played with sometimes their musical knowledge

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like blows me away. Oh yeah for being a simple instrument,

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so to speak with help me having four strings? Like yeah,

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their conceptualization of chords and like what changes and like

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what note they're playing in the root and stuff and

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just like dang, like they know more than I do

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about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 4: We have Aaron Bilido coming in second hour. I don't

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know if you know Aaron, but but he's a bass player.

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And he's amazing. Like I watch his fingers and it's like,

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oh my god, what he can do at that bass,

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you know. But yeah, I never got that far with it.

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But so on your so, like you said, so on

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your album, so you play everything except you mentioned your

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wife plays violin, but you do everything else. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I kept it pretty simple, like I wanted

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to go for kind of an old country kind of

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like Zach Bryany kind of sounds. Yeah, And so it's guitar, bass, drums,

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a little bit of mandolin on a couple songs. Okay,

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outside of that, that's that's really it for instrumentation.

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Speaker 4: Is the mandolin? Did you find that difficult.

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Speaker 5: To learn or so I don't play it super well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I play like just chords on it, so it's easy

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to figure out, like okay, what's the chord shape for

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this chord and then kind of do a little chunking

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us on it. I don't do a whole lot of

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melody work on the on the.

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Speaker 4: Mandolin, Okay, Okay, Yeah, it is hard with.

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Speaker 5: Big fingers, which is funny because you look at the

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best mandolin players, like these guys have giant, you know, fingers,

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and how do they play this.

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Speaker 4: Thing that's well, that's the thing that's That's one of

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the things that makes me so curious about it because

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some of these instruments, like the mandolin, I just I've

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always wondered about that. It looks like it's difficult to

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you know, it's hard enough when you're learning to play guitar,

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you know, to make sure that your fingers are going

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in the right places, and then on something like the mandolin. Yeah,

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you're right, like like if you have big fingers, you know,

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how do you do that able to really you know,

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not be not be sloppy with it? So it's very

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impressive to me. Do you want to you want to

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play another live one for us? Sure? Dying to hear more?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So the next one I have is uh so, it's

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one of the songs I mentioned. I wrote some songs

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in February. There's this thing called FOM, which is February

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Album Writing Month. It's like a challenge you try to

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write fourteen songs and all the February.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like kind of like the RPM chant.

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Speaker 5: Very much like that. Okay, yeah, except I think the

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end goal is not to have like a produced thing

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at the end of it. It's just like you have

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a collection of songs and you can do whatever with them.

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It's a cohesive album.

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Speaker 4: Oh cool, but okay.

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Speaker 5: One of the songs that came out of that, there

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was a news story right around that time, I think

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from the Washington Post about scientists and measure that the

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moon is starting to shrink, and so I was like, man,

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this is like the perfect jumping off point for a song. Yeah,

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So I tried to dream up this world of like, Okay,

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if the moon's shrinking, what's that mean for like our

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tide patterns on the earth, Like what's that look like?

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If I draw that out to this post apocalyptic picture.

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Then I tried to turn that into a love song

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of like what's it look like for love to sustained

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something as tragic and difficult as like the world coming

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to an end. So there's a song called Moonquakes that's

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about that stemmed from that story. Interesting, all right, totally fictitious.

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Matt Litzinger live in studio with us. I'm looking forward

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to this one. This one sounds pretty interesting. Although worry

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someone once so we have climate change storry about, now

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we gotta worry about the moon.

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Speaker 4: Shrinking too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully it's a it's a very slow process.

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Speaker 4: I would assume. Matt litzing Er Live in studio.

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Speaker 6: The moon is shrinking.

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Speaker 2: That's what the experts say.

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Speaker 8: It's getting smaller.

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Speaker 2: Everything old day.

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Speaker 8: Don't be alarm.

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Speaker 2: That's what the man on TV says. It feels like

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everything is hanging by threads.

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Speaker 6: Last night I.

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Speaker 2: Was for above the ground and I could see four

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miles and miles of round. When the lights went out, I.

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Speaker 8: Felt the darkness around.

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Speaker 6: This might be the end.

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Speaker 8: But I'm finding hoping your green eye.

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Speaker 2: And if the ground beneath our feet should break, won't

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lead you astray.

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Speaker 6: And if the seas.

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Speaker 2: Shoot over won their bound, I'll hold back the way.

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Speaker 3: It's the way of this luve.

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Speaker 6: Spore.

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Speaker 3: This world could bad way of this love.

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Speaker 8: It's ball in this world code babe.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm wow. Oh let me get that mic on Jenny, Sorry,

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do that to meet every Saturday.

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 4: He turns me download I do I do? Uh No,

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that is great, that is great. Matt Listener here with

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us live in studio. H Ryan LeMay is in the

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I see in the chat room, says well done. Ryan

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is a very obviously I'm sure you know Ryan. He's

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a very very talented musician.

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Speaker 9: I do not know.

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Speaker 4: Oh you don't know Ryan, Okay, you'll probably uh you'll

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probably meet at some point. Also, Eric Manarone, if I'm

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saying that correctly, says I, all, hello Eric in the

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chat room. If you are just joining us. We do

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have Matt Litz singer with us live in studio. He's

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got this great album keep It Burning, really really good.

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Do you are you already working on the next one,

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so you know, whereas you record at home and you know,

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you can kind of take your time with it, I

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would imagine you're already working on new stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's kind of funny. I'm actually taking a

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little bit of a well not a break, but just

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scaling things back a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I had a lot of songs written for this project,

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and so I had the benefit of being able to

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pick just the ones I liked the best or that

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worked most cohesively for this theme. Yeah, and so I

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had some extra songs that I didn't do anything with yet,

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so those are kind of in the hopper. I played

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those live out just trying to like get feelers for

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how to fine tune them. I had a tendency the

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right really long songs, so I'm always on the mission

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of figure out how do I tighten this stuff up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So like one of those songs is like seven minutes long,

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and so it's like, okay, that's too long for a

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singer songwriter ballad. Yeah, trying to figure how to tighten

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it up. But yeah, right now, it's just kind of

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scaling back a little bit. Like I said, I have

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a young family, so and this isn't my full time

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gig too, so just trying to figure out how do

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I keep this in his right place right right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of time management skills that can

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go into that. Do you remember the first song you

478
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:15,000
ever wrote?

479
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,839
Speaker 3: I do.

480
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:20,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So I started writing songs in high school

481
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:22,200
just as kind of a cathartic thing, and it was

482
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:25,279
a just really bubblegum poppy love song.

483
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you and me? Yeah?

484
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: Yeah?

485
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:28,799
Speaker 4: Did it survive?

486
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,519
Speaker 5: Do you ever play not survive? I don't know that

487
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:32,200
I could even play it if I had to, really.

488
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

489
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 5: I don't even think it got recorded. I think it

490
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,200
just got played to the girlfriend at the time.

491
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,039
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I don't remember who it was, but We

492
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,279
had a guest on who really surprised me. They could

493
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,519
remember like the first song they wrote when they were

494
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:45,480
like ten years old and they still play it. It

495
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:48,680
might it might have been Kenny Troon and Kenny, if

496
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240
you're listening and I'm wrong, I apologize, but I feel

497
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,319
like it was Kenny Truon. He said, yeah, I still

498
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,160
play it. My first song is like wow, man, Yeah.

499
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 5: I always jealous of those guys.

500
00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:57,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

501
00:26:57,599 --> 00:26:59,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you can go back to your back catalog

502
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:01,960
and will have just the muscle memory to pull back

503
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,920
out right right.

504
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: Who can you tell me about influences, Like in terms

505
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,440
of songwriting, who who influences you? Yeah?

506
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: So I like a lot of singer songwriter stuff. It

507
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,960
has more of a Maricana kind of rock background to it. Yeah,

508
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,839
Like modern influences will probably be like Jason Isbel is

509
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:26,680
a big one. Storgel Simpson is probably a big one.

510
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,519
Going back further, I love John Denver, like I just

511
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:31,960
keep coming back. He's just such a great songwriter.

512
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

513
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,559
Speaker 5: My grandparents, my grandma in particularly on my mom's side,

514
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,240
really loved him. And so like playing country roads is

515
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,759
always a big favorite for me, or like leaving on

516
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:41,440
a jet Plane.

517
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:41,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

518
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, his stuff's great. I love coming back to his

519
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:45,799
his music.

520
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:49,039
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, what about in terms of your approach vocally?

521
00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:51,799
Is there anyone you Is there anyone you've ever really

522
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:55,359
you have a unique voice. I can't think of anyone

523
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,279
off the top of my head who I feel like

524
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,440
you sound like? Yeah, exactly, But I don't know. I mean,

525
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:02,759
is there anyone who's influenced you as far as your vocals?

526
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:06,279
Speaker 5: I mean, I think a lot of people over time,

527
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,400
and I get compared to some people, so like Evan

528
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,480
Stevens Hall from Pine Grove, They're like an indie rock band.

529
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,559
The guy from the Decembris, who I'm blanking on his

530
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:19,440
name right now.

531
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't remember either, but I know what you mean.

532
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think I pull from

533
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,359
different things. I hear in vocal performances and I'm like,

534
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,400
I like that. I try to emulate that a little bit,

535
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,839
and then it's just still trying to figure out, like

536
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:33,160
how do I do that and not make it sound

537
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,599
like I'm trying to sound like like, you know, I

538
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,359
have a certain signature to my voice and I want

539
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,480
to keep that right. But it is interesting, like listening

540
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,759
back to material from like ten years ago to now.

541
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,839
It's crazy how your voice changes over time. And I

542
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,240
even listen to other artists like that happens so much too.

543
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,599
H But it's it's really interesting to see, and it's

544
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160
very much a subconscious thing because yeah, I didn't decide

545
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,680
I'm gonna sit down and record this song so that

546
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:56,440
it sounds like this.

547
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always been kind of fascinated by that with

548
00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:04,480
vocal how some some people's voices do change over time

549
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:06,640
as they get older, their voice gets deeper. But some

550
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,000
people it seems like it you know, you hear something

551
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:13,359
they record very uh you know, like they might be

552
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
a sixty year old guy who sounds just like he

553
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,200
did when he was twenty, and it's like or at

554
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:20,839
least on at least in the studio. Yeah, maybe maybe

555
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440
not live. But you know, it's interesting how how some

556
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:27,160
people their voice really changes and some doesn't. I imagine too.

557
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000
Part of that comes from, you know, a lot of musicians,

558
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,359
you know, drink and smoke and that you know that'll

559
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680
change your voice certainly, But but I think for a

560
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,559
lot of people to you know, their voices just kind

561
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,240
of get deeper naturally as they get older. But yeah,

562
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:43,160
some people just sound sound the same. It's it's weird,

563
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,480
I think. I think Billy Joel is an example of that.

564
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,279
Speaker 5: Like it's true.

565
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,319
Speaker 4: Like if you if you go on YouTube and you

566
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,799
pull up a Billy Joel video of him performing live

567
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:55,759
in recent years, he kind of sounds the same as

568
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,240
he did when you know, when that first album came out.

569
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,039
It's it's it's weird. But all the time goes so fast.

570
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:02,759
You want to play another one for us? Sure? I

571
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:03,960
want to. I want to get at least one more

572
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,799
live one and before we run out of time. If

573
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,839
you are just joining us. Matt Litzinger is here with us,

574
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,720
alive in studio, and I did confirm with him. I

575
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:12,519
am saying his name right because I wasn't sure if

576
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:13,720
it was everybody.

577
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always short eyes.

578
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: Anybody ever get it wrong like on a poster or something,

579
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:18,960
not on.

580
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: A poster, but not saying it out loud, Yeah, quite

581
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,599
a bit.

582
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Matt Litzinger is here with us in studio.

583
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: What are you?

584
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,119
Speaker 4: What are you gonna play for us?

585
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah? So this next one's called I don't know much.

586
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,359
It's on the record as well. It's it's a song

587
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,519
I have two young kids and they ask a ton

588
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,400
of questions. Yeah, and I've gone through this phase of

589
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,799
like in my twenties, I felt like I had to

590
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,240
have the answered everything all the time, And in my thirties,

591
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,000
I'm really kind of okay with it. It's okay to

592
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:45,880
just say I don't know, right, I'm more and more

593
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,000
aware of the sense like when people try to tell

594
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,880
you they do have all the answers everything, to be

595
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,599
highly skeptical of that. Yes, and so this song is

596
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920
about just being able to go through life and being

597
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,319
okay with not having answered everything.

598
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I like it all right.

599
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,559
Speaker 3: It seems like this life face.

600
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:17,839
Speaker 6: Getting rd about the day, people trying to figure.

601
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: Out how.

602
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: It got to be this way, because in the sage

603
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,920
of information, the facts.

604
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: Seems so passive.

605
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:37,519
Speaker 2: I'm standing with my mouth a gape, can't find those

606
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:45,400
words to say. So I don't know much, and that's okay.

607
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:49,400
I'm just hoping it's enough to give me through the day.

608
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:56,400
Some pass lead back where they begin going in circles.

609
00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,880
It can drive you mad. There's a few things I

610
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:07,839
know for sure. The rest I'm still searching for the sun.

611
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,559
It's gonna rise each day and your love for me

612
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:23,599
will never face. You love for me will never face.

613
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:37,480
And I've got a few friends who have carried me

614
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,599
on this road and they couldn't give a rip about

615
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:50,160
the stuff I think I know, because we're all just

616
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:56,599
grown up kids trying to figure this life out and

617
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,759
being honest about them madness of Clara our Dows.

618
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 6: I don't know much and that's okay. I'm just hoping

619
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,599
it's enough to give me through the day.

620
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: Some pass lead back where they be again.

621
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: When circles, it can drive you mad. There's a few

622
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:30,759
things I know for sure. The rest I'm still searching for.

623
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 8: The sun is gonna rise each day, and you love

624
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:46,319
for me will never face. You laugh for me will

625
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,480
never face.

626
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,079
Speaker 6: I don't know much, and that's okay. I'm just hoping

627
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,720
it enough to give it through today.

628
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: Some paz lead back where they begain go in circles.

629
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 6: It can drive you men.

630
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: There's a few things I know for sure, And the

631
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,639
rest I'm still searching for.

632
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:27,119
Speaker 8: The sun is gonnariz each day, and you love for

633
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:37,239
me will never faced. You love for me will never fade.

634
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh I love that. I love that. What a great song.

635
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,480
If you're just joining us Matt Litzinger is here with us,

636
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,360
live in studio. What's that one called a gun?

637
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 5: I don't know much.

638
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,039
Speaker 4: I don't know much. Great great song, great song. You're

639
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,440
getting some love. In the chat room to Tom Russo,

640
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:53,719
who's been on the show a few times, very very

641
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,280
talented musician, says sounds great, nice lyrics, great voice and song.

642
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:00,840
Thanks absolutely, and by the way, I owe you an

643
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,400
email and I will get back to you, I promise.

644
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,199
Dj Steve, also in the chat room, says, good morning

645
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,960
Matt and Jenny. I am really enjoying this. Thank you sir,

646
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,159
Thank you Dj Steve. Let's see, Yes, we do have

647
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:13,079
Matt Litzinger live and studio with us, and we've been

648
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,519
he's been playing some songs from that one's on the

649
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:16,559
album too, I assume, right.

650
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

651
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 4: For those watching online the video component of the show,

652
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,239
let me hold this up again for everybody. This is

653
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,880
the album Keep It Burning, full length album from Matt Litzinger.

654
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: This is all.

655
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,599
Speaker 4: This is all online too, right. People can get this.

656
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:33,199
Speaker 5: Online all the streaming services.

657
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,159
Speaker 4: Excellent, excellent, And what went into the decision to make

658
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,960
physical copies too? Because not everyone does, although it seems

659
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,079
like lately most of the guests that we have are

660
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,559
are doing CDs. There was a period of time where

661
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,199
it seemed like no one was doing CDs, and then

662
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,360
now everyone is, which is great, great to see if

663
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,880
some people are even releasing vinyl. But what went into

664
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,920
the decision to release a physical copy?

665
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so part of it was that I did a

666
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,440
Kickstarter campaign and so just having some type of physical

667
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,719
reward for it felt important. Yeah, And people took me

668
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,199
up on that quite a bit too. Just kind of

669
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,440
have like assigned even if it's just memorabilia and you

670
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,159
never like open the cellophane to it, right, Just having

671
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,639
that people really like that. And at live shows too,

672
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,280
like being able to go away, like I like this

673
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,159
experience and I want to take something home with me

674
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,480
from it.

675
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Right.

676
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,199
Speaker 5: I don't even know how many people really have CD players.

677
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,119
Like my vehicle doesn't have a CD player in it, Yeah,

678
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,400
truck does. My old it's like a two thousand and six,

679
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,440
but like my newer card doesn't have a CD player.

680
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 4: Right. Right, way back when people were predicting the total

681
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,360
death of CDs, I think what kind of kept CDs

682
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,159
going was to a large degree, just you know, people

683
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,639
still having CD players in their cars, and of course

684
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:42,679
new cars now don't have them. But I think you're

685
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,760
right too. People like having a physical copy, you know,

686
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,119
especially if you're a big fan of somebody, and yeah,

687
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,280
most of them probably, you know, they may not ever

688
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,880
open it. They just want to have it to support

689
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,360
you and to support your work. And that's my theory

690
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,639
with vinyl too, because I think even fewer people have

691
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,719
record players, but vinyl is well, I think I think

692
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,000
twenty twenty, it was either twenty two or twenty three,

693
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:08,360
was the first year that that vinyl it actually outsold

694
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,880
CDs A chart for that, yeah, yeah, And I'm convinced

695
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,679
that most people who purchase vinyl never open it, you know,

696
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,800
they just if you're really a fan of an artist,

697
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,119
you know, because you know who has a I mean

698
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,559
some people have record players obviously, but but I think

699
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,360
most people, yeah, they purchase it and they don't open it.

700
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,159
They just want to have it. And if you're really

701
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:26,920
a big fan of somebody, it makes sense to do that.

702
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:28,440
Certainly for a part of.

703
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 5: It might be self serving too, because I've always liked

704
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400
listening to full records. Yeah, and like I think that

705
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:36,039
just goes back to like, was your only way to

706
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,920
listen to things before before Spotify would recommend things after

707
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,719
you listen to a track. So I like sitting especially

708
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,760
from a songwriter perspective, how'd you sequence this? Like how

709
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,199
do these songs tell a story together?

710
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: I love that?

711
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:48,559
Speaker 5: And then being able to look at the liner notes,

712
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,119
especially yes, like we all miss out on that now.

713
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:53,519
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, especially when Yeah, when I was a kid,

714
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,400
I used to love listening to I've been looking at

715
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,719
liner notes when I'd get a new CD. Yeah, just

716
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:01,320
you know, seeing what inf you know, pre internet, just

717
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,480
seeing what information I could glean from just from the

718
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,360
liner notes, you know, which usually wasn't much. But if

719
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,360
I was a really big fan of somebody, just anybody,

720
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,039
I could you know, oh who was the uh engineer

721
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,920
on on this? You know, you know, just any little

722
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000
bit of information, you know. But I'm a very curious

723
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,239
person anyway, So anything I could learn from liner notes

724
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,480
was great. Yeah, so that's excellent. Is this your first?

725
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,800
Is this your first physical release this disc? Yes?

726
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,639
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, so this would be the first. I

727
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,719
made some like, you know, very homemade copies of early stuff,

728
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,599
but this would be the first like professional release.

729
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,519
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, no, that's excellent. You know, it's funny. Back

730
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:38,360
when I first so there was a span of time

731
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,840
when I first started interviewing musicians on radio shows and podcasts.

732
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:45,440
There was a span of time where, like I said,

733
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,800
nobody was really releasing CDs, but people would still give me.

734
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,119
People would actually give me music on their CD instead

735
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,000
of doing it like now where you just email your

736
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:55,440
music to somebody. People would actually give me music for

737
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:57,960
the show on a CD that wouldn't be that would

738
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,599
not be professionally produced, and it would I couldn't even

739
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,440
count the number of times someone would hand me a

740
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:05,159
CD on their finger, you know what I mean, like

741
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,079
like no case, no case. That would happen a lot,

742
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,519
and it was always like, really, this is how you're

743
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:14,079
giving this to me?

744
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: You know.

745
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,199
Speaker 4: They'd write on it with the sharpie what it was

746
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,039
and then hand you know, here's the CD for the

747
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:21,280
you know you need this for the show, right, It's like, yeah, thanks.

748
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000
We actually have a CD player here. I think Rob

749
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:27,360
is uh yeah, Rob has a veto from Grandit state

750
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,760
of mind. I think he's the only one who actually

751
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,639
uses it. I've never used it, but we do have

752
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,559
a functioning CD player here. But no it's I think

753
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:36,039
it's cool that you're doing that, and I like, now

754
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:37,840
you mentioned too, I think this was off air you

755
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,559
mentioned this. Your wife is a graphic artist.

756
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 5: She is, Yeah, does she do all the artwork? So yeah,

757
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800
I had a my friend who's a photographer, Rebecca Scatting,

758
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,119
did all the photography inside and out, and then my

759
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,320
wife did the layout and all the design work.

760
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 4: Okay, excellent, Yeah, yeah, no, that's great. That's great. And

761
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,599
you brought us a couple of stickers too, which is good.

762
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,239
Oh yeah, you mentioned your wife made those. Jenny loves stickers,

763
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,360
as you can see from the back of her computer.

764
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:03,639
That's right, that's right.

765
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:04,559
Speaker 6: We have time.

766
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: You want to play one more, I'd love to. Okay,

767
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:08,480
awesome if you're just joining us, we have Matt listeninger

768
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,679
here with us live in studio. What are you gonna play? Yeah?

769
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 5: So this is an older one. It's not on the album.

770
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,440
It's called time Turner. So there's an old family story

771
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,800
of playing board games and somebody asking someone to turn

772
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,239
that little sand timer. It started this song idea in

773
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,119
my head of like man, time slips away, and we've

774
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:26,320
got a lot of songs about that. But how do

775
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,199
I write it from this like appealing to a higher

776
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,840
power to say, like, hey, can I just get a

777
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,360
little bit more time? Can you slow this down a

778
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400
little bit? So it's a song about that, all right.

779
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,159
Speaker 2: Time turning on? She turned the time a little more slowly.

780
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,840
I've been wasting my time today.

781
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 6: Oh please, won't you have just a little pity because

782
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,639
I could? There was a little time my way.

783
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:19,039
Speaker 11: And and time turner, won't you lend me your ear

784
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,360
for a moment?

785
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 6: That's why I can plead my case to you.

786
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: Seems like I'm always running in circles a bird, and

787
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,280
it's heavy in my.

788
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 6: Moments a few.

789
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 11: Time turner, won't you.

790
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,559
Speaker 6: Tell me when my time is over?

791
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 8: Maybe I can still leave my mark.

792
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,119
Speaker 2: Greatest fear is waste all my time for my life

793
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,000
fades in.

794
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: To dark.

795
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: And time turn on? Won't you turn the time a

796
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:40,599
little more slowly? I've been wasting my time today.

797
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,079
Speaker 4: I think that one's my favorite.

798
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: Oh thank you?

799
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: Very relatable, too, very relatable. I love it. I love it.

800
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,079
Matt Listener here with us alive in studio. That's uh,

801
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:56,960
when when did you write that that? You said that

802
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:58,079
one an early one.

803
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:00,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one's from probably back in two thousand twelve.

804
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 4: Okay, oh wow, wow, yeah, very good, very good. Have

805
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,480
you ever recorded that one?

806
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on an EP called Up in the Woods EP?

807
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,119
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, outstanding. What do you have this weekend? Do

808
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:12,159
you have any shows this weekend?

809
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 5: Nope? Next one I have is in December and Planet

810
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,679
two share.

811
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:16,639
Speaker 4: Oh, very good.

812
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 5: End of the month. I think it's a twenty seventh okay, yeah,

813
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,800
so it's I'm taking a.

814
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: Little break during the winter. Do you kind of hibernate

815
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,679
a little bit too and focus on writing and recording

816
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,519
or do you still play.

817
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,599
Speaker 5: Especially I try to do that February project where I

818
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,400
do a songwriting project. Oh Yeahbruary, because it's just the darkest,

819
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,039
like depressing part of the year. It's like you might

820
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:33,440
as well produce something out of it, you.

821
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,639
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I notice a lot of

822
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:40,000
people kind of plus, you know, going and playing shows

823
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:42,280
in the winter is hard because you never know what

824
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,599
the weather's gonna do, and a lot of things experience here.

825
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:50,239
It's cold and flu season, all of it, all of it. Yeah,

826
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:52,559
is summer kind of your busiest time as far as playing.

827
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And it's just seeing people seem to have fun. Yeah,

828
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,480
the summer too, you know they enjoy live music more. Yeah,

829
00:43:57,559 --> 00:43:58,280
like it seems like it.

830
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,159
Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely so we while speaking the time,

831
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,199
I'm thinking about closing the segment with this year another

832
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,000
one of your great studio tracks that you sent us.

833
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,719
So it seems appropriate since you just seems like it

834
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,880
might relate in some way to the song you just played. So,

835
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,920
but what should people know about? Where to find you online?

836
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,000
How to keep up with everything that you're doing? Yeah?

837
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: Sure, so I get a profile on Spotify just mattlet Singer,

838
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,880
and then my website mattlet Singer music dot Com is

839
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,360
where I usually try to put everything. Yeah, redesigning it.

840
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,239
So it should be redesigned in the next week or so.

841
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,719
It's very very close to being done.

842
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,119
Speaker 3: Oh cool.

843
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,119
Speaker 5: I think the last time it was redone was twenty ten.

844
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,079
Speaker 4: Oh really? Yeah? Oh wow? Do you do all at yourself?

845
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 5: I do yes, as my day job. I'm a web developer.

846
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: Oh no kidding? Yeah, oh very good, yeah, excellent, excellent,

847
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:46,760
So we will will close out. Oh you should spell

848
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,800
your last name too, sure?

849
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, so last name l I t z I n

850
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,239
G e er.

851
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,679
Speaker 4: It's actually well, you know, it's funny. It's it's obviously

852
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,800
not a common last name, but it is spelled pretty

853
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920
much the way you would expect it today, which is

854
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,559
I think so people struggle with my last name all

855
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:05,639
the time. Connorton is very unusual and uh people people

856
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,239
misspell it.

857
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,639
Speaker 5: But a lot of Matts though, a lot of mats

858
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,360
never a minister in area where there's not another match?

859
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: Are there a lot of Litzingers?

860
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,559
Speaker 5: You know, I've met hardly any? Yeah, which is funny

861
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:18,119
because online I compete with two other Mattlets singers. One's

862
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:21,039
a real litor and one's in like creative ad buying.

863
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,840
Oh no kidding, Yeah, so like its se o value.

864
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,280
There's some out there, but I've never met a lot

865
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,880
in real life.

866
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Uh, definitely a rare name, but that's good.

867
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,719
A rare name, you have less chance of somebody popping

868
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,679
up and saying, hey, I'm also a musician with this

869
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,599
name and I was doing it before you and you

870
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,840
know and everything that goes with that. So so that's

871
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,400
that's definitely an advantage. But we will close out with

872
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,320
this great track. This is called This Year from Matt

873
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,280
Litz Singer and Matt thank you again.

874
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks so much for having me.

875
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:48,079
Speaker 4: You got it.

876
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm looking up.

877
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:00,119
Speaker 10: It.

878
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: Swip the monsters out from under my bed. I'm moving

879
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,400
on from what might have been.

880
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,519
Speaker 9: I'm getting ready to shift this skin.

881
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,079
Speaker 3: All this time that I've wasted, it's.

882
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:24,039
Speaker 2: Given me a reason to say, this year, I'm gonna

883
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:25,480
do things different.

884
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see the hard things to my gaze has said,

885
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,960
and I'm not gonnaway. I'll be standing here.

886
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 6: It's true.

887
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to do it better this year. Just

888
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,119
wait and see.

889
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: I'll take you by surprise. This new me is more

890
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,599
than just theop. Guys, it's all me. Once, give yourself

891
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:08,440
some graties, if not for some of your mistakes. Each

892
00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:14,480
year's a brand new start. It's given me a reason

893
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:20,880
to say, this year, I'm gonna do things different, gonna

894
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,320
see the hard things go what Jesus said, and I'm

895
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,920
not gonna waver.

896
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: I'll be stand and hear it's true. This year. I'm

897
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,440
done with the excuses.

898
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,519
Speaker 6: But ket me shackle for too long.

899
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: I'll reached a point where I was down for the count,

900
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:47,280
but I'll live to see a new day.

901
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: Darn.

902
00:47:49,639 --> 00:48:02,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to do it better this year. This

903
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:11,599
cold weather in store for the Northeast, I might.

904
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: Not see the sun for a couple of weeks.

905
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:24,559
Speaker 10: Maybe I won't do all the things I set out

906
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:30,400
to do, but I'll take a few steps.

907
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:38,119
Speaker 3: And I'll go a little too, Because.

908
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,639
Speaker 2: This year I'm gonna do things different. I'm gonna see

909
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,719
the hard things through. My caze is said, and I'm

910
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,039
not gonna wait.

911
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: I'll be standing here. It's true.

912
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:59,039
Speaker 2: This year round done with the excuses they ken me

913
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:04,079
shackle for to law. I reached a point where I

914
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,840
was down for the counber. I lived to see a

915
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,199
new day dawn.

916
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 9: I'm gonna try to do it better. Lord, I hope

917
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,599
I do better this year.

918
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 6: This year,