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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Bobby Brown and welcome to another fucking podcast.

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Speaker 2: My livers all twisted up. Let you know what I did.

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Speaker 3: I loaded up with alcohol, more specifically vodka, twisty beer,

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tequila nor beer, no vodka, rusty more.

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Speaker 2: Beer once an orange whip, unch whip, unch whip, three

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orange whips.

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Speaker 4: So you're for.

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Speaker 2: I've come here to break your monotony. Let me have

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my piece because I'm shooting with this one, folks, I

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don't care man.

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Speaker 4: The unscripted, uncensored loose cannon of common Town.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you say that what you come out with stink

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like that poop poop out.

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Speaker 2: Se son.

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Speaker 1: Old legends never die, They just lose weight.

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Speaker 3: It's like a legend and an outawork bumb with a

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lot of light.

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Speaker 4: Lenny, Hey, I've got a midget friend in albino friends

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and another friend who thinks Lord of the Rings is real.

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Together we call ourselves the Unforgottable wi ton is in.

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Speaker 2: Let the fun beIN. I've Vaniel Carrie. We have heard

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of Van Halen.

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Speaker 1: Hello Las Vegas, Hello world, Hell about my loyal minions.

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It is good to see you, and it's always good

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to be seen. The show is another iffing podcast. I

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am your host? Is he Presley? It's good to see you,

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and it's been a little while, it's been a couple

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of weeks. Last show, Oh my god, it's so ironic

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that the last show I did sitting next to me

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is my good friend Chris Hockey. The first time we've

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ever not the first time we've ever been a microphone together.

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That happened today, That happened this morning. And but the

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last show was Nate Peck, the guy who's filling in

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for CJ. Snare, And we're on the mall, on the

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on the Blue Cruise, and the news came out on Sunday.

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He passed away on Friday. The news came out on

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Sunday that CJ Snare from Firehouse died. And I always

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opened the show like this Chris and the words, where's

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my close personal friend Stone Call stay Austin, gonna crack

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one for the working man, But right now we're gonna

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crack it for CJ.

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Speaker 2: Snare. Ah, cheers, rest and peace.

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Speaker 5: You love the fact that I make a little golden

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I absolutely do. I was gonna ask you about that.

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You had to bring that one.

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Speaker 1: Back with you on well every time someone because people

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are always coming out here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're driving. Oh good man, yeah, good good.

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So this is Chris Hockey. If you are not familiar

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with who Chris is, he is from Minneapolis. He is

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a co host or producer.

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Speaker 2: You text, that's it right now because it's you really

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seem like more of a co host.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's like you guys have a whole

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machine going there on the Howard Trip Morning show out

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of Minneapolis on the A f An is it.

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Speaker 2: Is it still KA fans locally a fan radio network? Yeah,

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I know.

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Speaker 1: Shit changes all the time. He's a he's a musician

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and his band is called Rocket Club. He also plays

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with the fabulous Armadillos with some amazing, amazing musicians from

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that from my town. And it's so weird how this

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all just kind of came into one big circle.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: For everybody out there who doesn't know Saint Cloud is he,

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so I knew nothing about Minnesota when I first moved there.

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Saint Cloud is some sort of a triangle of musicianship

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and rock. It's just unbelievable. Every person I know in

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Saint Cloud, first of all, is an A plus musician.

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Second of all, they know everybody else in Saint Cloud

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and they've all played in bands together. And that extends

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to you all the way out to Las Vegas and

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you're spreading that everywhere. Man, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is just insane.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Thomas Brothers, yes, I mean Stretch and

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Mike Zeleny and like even you know people I don't

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know if you know, like a Freaky from he was

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he's a Saint cloudy and you know it's like and

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you know it was part of that. I mean, when

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did you move to Minneapol ninety four? You moved it

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the end, the last, the waning years of the real

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rock and roll scene that it was, you know, so

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good shit. But Saint Cloud was in that circle. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I did get to go to the Iron Horse right

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before it closed and I saw I think Gemini there,

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maybe Nightcrawler or somebody like that right towards the end

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of the run there. And but yeah, I did feel

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like I missed something. I miss something special. There's so

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Speaker 1: I would love it.

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Speaker 2: And it just seems like, you know, Stretching.

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Speaker 5: Those guys they talk fondly about that whole fifteen twenty

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year run of musicians and just the music and the

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fact that you go out on a Wednesday night like

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here in Vegas, got on a Wednesday, I see a

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band like I saw Tesla last night.

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Speaker 2: You could see it anytime, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it was like so in like slip Twister

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for instance, Stretchers band Stretch and Mike's band Phenomenal they

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it was almost assholes, right, But in the next door

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like be a band playing at the Press.

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Speaker 2: Oh part of me, and.

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Speaker 1: It was just people went out to see love music.

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Speaker 5: Wow, I'm hoping everything's cyclical because it seems like it is,

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you know. I mean, I do believe eventually we're going

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to start to see a return to guitar driven music

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once again. And I know it might sound weird, and

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it's probably controversial that a lot of people, I think,

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people like Taylor Swift, who are even though she is

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obviously a giant pop star and doing what she's doing,

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you see her playing a guitar, and there's a little

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girl and a little boy out there seeing her playing

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guitar and saying, oh, I can learn to play guitar.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be cyclical. The music's going to.

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Speaker 5: Come back around and again, maybe ten years from now,

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maybe twenty, maybe after we're gone, there's gonna be places

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like the Preston Saint Cloud where somebody's picking up a

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guitar for the first time on a Wednesday night and

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trying to lead lead themselves to start them That's what

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Speaker 2: Did you say, Taylor Swift? Yeah, but Joe, that's what

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you call. No, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Actually, I

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didn't know if I could go there on this, but.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, dude, it's called another fucking podcast, Chris, come on,

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you know, but sometimes you don't want it. Plus, but

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you also have a very important job, so I don't

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want you to get in trouble by saying something stupid.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the bottom night is this. I've trained

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myself the best I possibly can't. This is in front

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of my face. I have to say too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yess. You do it once and it becomes easier

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and easy and needs Oh I know, trust me, Yeah,

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trust me. When I first time and I opened up

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this thing and I could swear all that I wanted,

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It's like Stern when he went to satellite. He cleaned up.

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but he also was able to extend it and say

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fuck due. It's an interesting case study. I love Stern.

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Speaker 5: I love radio, man, I know you do too. I

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just I love the broadcast medium. I love me everything

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about it.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: I just love the communication. Stern I thought was really

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really interesting because everybody expected him to come out on

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Sirious or on XM Serious. Back in the day and

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just go crazy, and he did to some extent, right,

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But how bright is he to say, I'm gonna not

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do it. I'm not gonna go too far, I'm not

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going to alienate people. I'm gonna just do a good

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radio show. He is better today than he was when

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I was bored opping his show into Minneapolis when I

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started nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Years board opping Stern say, I remember that I was

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working at FOD then and all he all he did

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was come on a barade, freaking tomber Hart.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, and it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: He did it in every single market he went to,

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and it did they It did not work in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 5: Minneapolis, you know, another case study as somebody who just

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loves radio and I don't want to go too deep

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in the weeds.

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Speaker 2: Form No, I don't know. I love this. This needs

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to be talked about. And so I was out of radio.

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Virginia Beach, Virginia, and I was out of radio.

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Speaker 2: She had she worked at City ninety seven.

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Speaker 5: She was the program director at this great radio station

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in Minneapolis for nineteen years. Started these huge things like

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the Basilica Block party in the city Sampler, all these giants. Yeah, yeah,

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our son as a stay at home dad, and I

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got a call one day they were going to blow

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up this entire country radio station and change it to

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a rock station. Oddly enough, on one hundred point three, which

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is the signal I work on right now in k

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who could come in and be the only employee at

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this new radio station. And that's when I found out

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they were and Howard Stern, and to take down Tom Bernard.

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Now Tom Bernard, as you know, was there was no

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one like him. His numbers in Minneapolis were bigger than

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what Howard Stern's were in New York. Obviously more competition,

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but right impossible to beat him. And so they brought

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him in specifically for that and paid him well, and

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he attacked and attacked and attacked, and Tom did the

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smart thing, decided not to acknowledge it at all, and

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it just didn't work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like I said, it worked everywhere,

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but I don't know in those other markets if they

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did acknowledge it, yeah, right, you know, and I totally

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forgot that Bernard didn't acknowledge it because I was listening

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to Starn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, Yeah, Yeah. We did everything we could to

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distract him. He wouldn't do it. And you know, I

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think there's also something in Minnesota specifically, but mostly everywhere.

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But they didn't want somebody in New York coming in

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and taking the number one spot away from Tom Bernard.

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Speaker 2: People were really really against that.

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Speaker 5: So that was a big listenership, but it wasn't enough

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to pay him what they were paying him.

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Speaker 1: So how do you make the jump then? So Stern leaves, Yeah,

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and you're out of a job.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Did you already have something in place when that happened?

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Did you start a k fan right if for that happened?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: So well kind of because two things happened. The company

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started growing and growing. At the time when I worked

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at WLOL, it was just two radio stations. HUGHL Wow,

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that was the station. It changed over to WQRC then

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and became the rock station. That was what Stern was on.

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guy Alan Cable to come in and Lee Volsvik, who

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was on the top forty station with Dave Ryan, and

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we built this morning show for a few years over

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there and just failed miserably. But at that time I

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was also doing the Motorsports show, talking NASCAR and all

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things racing with Russ bo Hattie on the fan on Saturdays,

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and gradually I just got to love talk radio even

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more than I already had, and they asked me to

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come over and work with superstar Mike Morrise. We did

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an hour with a he was a former Minnesota Viking. Yeah,

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we did an hour they and then they gave us

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the morning show. And that was twenty three years ago.

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In November. I've been doing the morning.

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Speaker 1: Show and Mike Morris is sometimes gets blamed for wide

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left yeah, and his fault.

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Speaker 2: Well it was a good snap. I don't care what

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they say.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't his fault, but yeah, yeah, just another Viking

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terrible memory, right.

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Speaker 1: I know, obviously you're familiar with the book Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: People don't understand, they do not understand the pain of

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being a Minnesota sports fan. It's really something, man.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I've worked out for the Vikings for fourteen years. I

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produced the radio broadcast. Yeah, and I after two thousand

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and nine, when Brett Favre threw the across his body

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interception against New Orleans Brandon Maleski, who is the chief

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engineer for the Vikings right now, where we just looked

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at each other. So we're not going to care this

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much ever again, we can't do it. It hurts too

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damn much for them to always break our hearts. So

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I do my best to try to reel myself out

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of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but thankfully.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm old enough to have been alive when

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the Super bowls happened, well not the first one, yes,

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but old enough to not remember, right, you know, to

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young enough. But I do remember Darren Nelson jumping in

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front of the pass I was man for Anthony Carter.

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I do remember, you know, fucking obviously, you know, wide left.

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Speaker 2: Wide left, man. I know, it just keeps happening.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know, one of these years maybe, and

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I hope I'm still working for the team, because I

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would love to actually celebrate something one time.

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Speaker 2: That's I always when.

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Speaker 1: That's why I couldn't cheer the Lions because oh but

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they've had it coming, No bullshit, they have. They have

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eleven Stanley Cups, They've got four four MLB titles, they've

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got three NBA titles, they've had their ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the Lions.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also I was also jealous of Lion fan

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because there was no getting the heart ripped out of

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the app that you know what's coming. It's like being

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a Vikings fan for you. A lot of the people

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that don't understand it. Imagine being single like me, Okay,

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talking to a cute gal, hot gal, sounds really fucking

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hot gal. And also she starts talking to you, Oh

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my god, I might have a chance. Here, here we go,

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and then right at the end, boom, she has a

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cock and it's over. Yeah you know, or it's not,

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but yeah yeah, or if she doesn't, even if she

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doesn't have a cock, she rips your heart out of

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your ass and boom, there it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like the my god, it's finally gonna come on.

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That's it.

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Speaker 5: I've written on that plane home for that game many

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a time, wondering what happened to my asshole?

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Speaker 2: Right exactly?

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Speaker 1: What was so you were you were working with Vice

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in two thousand and nine, Yeah, yeah, what was that

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plane ride?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, here's the thing about those plane rides,

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that I found the most festing when I started working

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for the Vikings. I'm five foot six, right, I never

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dreamed I would ever ride on a team NFL playing

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it the greatest gig. I can't believe I get to

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do it. Even fourteen years later, I still can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: The one thing that all those plane rides have in

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common is they remind you that to these kids, it's

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their job. They're sad, they wanted that win. Every one

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of them thinks they're going to do it again next

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year and they've got another shot. So I am way

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sadder most of the time than the actual players are

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on those On those flights, the coaches take it hard.

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The players are doing their best not to get in

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trouble for having too much fun on the flight home.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, a lot of times, man, Yeah, wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You just wonder if that's like that in other sports.

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I wonder. I think.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons that I know you is from

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what I was doing when I was covering. I was

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the sports and music strikes for X magazine. The weekly

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was the newspaper, so I was at the press box. Yeah,

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That's where I got to know Covi and uh and

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Sauce and Halberson's everybody, yeah yeah, and Rosie and you know,

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it's f Faldness and everybody. RUSSEO when he acknowledged my existence,

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well yeah, I think I've been banned from Russellville. I

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don't know what the hell I Did'll get you back

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in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. It's not that fine anyway.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that I noticed was it was the

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baseball players and the hockey players that seemed like they

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cared the most, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if.

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Speaker 1: It's like that I mean, but I mean I remember

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what I mean, the wildness of playoffs. Andrew Burnette played

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on I believe it was a broken ankle for a

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few games until that team was eliminated from playoff contention.

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And that's I mean, that's hockey player right there. NHL

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players are a different breed man. They just start.

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Speaker 5: I don't know anything about baseball players, being honest, I've

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not been around any MLB changed at all, But I've

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been around Timberwols like because we've been the home of

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the Ti Wolves off and on again. We are again now,

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been around wild players a lot. And Mark Parrish is

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a member of you know, of our he's the best

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guy ever.

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Speaker 2: But these guys go.

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Speaker 5: Through injuries that I mean would be catastrophic for your normal,

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everyday guy, and absolutely catastrophic for most professional athletes, and

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well they just keep playing, you know. I mean, I

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have a lot of respect for NHL players and anybody

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who you know, even if they don't make the NHL.

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College hockey players they take a hell of a beating man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, broken jaw, wire me up, coach, let's go, but

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Marri's got his teeth knocked out of his face, three

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of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and finish the period.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, just take him over to the trainer

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and put them in milk or something.

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Speaker 2: So when did you get into the music scene? Then,

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I had.

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Speaker 5: I grew up in a family that just loved music,

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but nobody had ever been in a band, nobody played

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an instruments anything like that. I grew up Indiana, right

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on the border of Ohio, Indiana, a little town called

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Union City.

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Speaker 2: How close to where Axel grew up? I mean two

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hours good ways away? Yeah, yeah, still Indiana. Yeah, there's

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still wafflehose. You better believe.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little over an hour and a half from Seymour, Indiana.

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We're John Mellencamp. Okay, yeah, so but I just I

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loved music and I wanted so badly to be a singer.

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I just wanted to be in a band.

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Speaker 2: So oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: The there was a local newspaper where there was an

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ad in the paper just said, hey, we're looking for

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a singer. And my mom dialed the number and handed

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me the phone and I went and auditioned. I was terrible,

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but nobody else auditioned, so I got the band. And

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after you know, all these years, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, the ten thousand hours thing actually came through for

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me and I learned how to do it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so were you blessed with beer coming in? Beer

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coming in coming in? Hike you some bitch? Would you

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like some beer? I like that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy's tough. I saw that at the Goodwill.

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I'm like this, some bitch looks like he would kick

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your ass. Ye, then drink your beers, fire along dart,

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then mount your old lady in front of you, and

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then buy you beers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Look at him, he's just he just did all those things.

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I can see that right now. He's he's he's cleaning

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a little bit of stuffing off the bottom lip is

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what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right there, Yeah yeah yeah I like that.

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So were you blessed? Was it? Did singing come easy

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for you? You know?

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Speaker 5: It came easy for me? Was getting on stage. That

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was the thing I wasn't great at first. In fact,

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the guys in the first band I was in love

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to tell me that the only reason they hired me

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is because I had a kiss T shirt on I had.

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I'd just been to the asylum Asylum tol you saw

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the asylum, yeah, Bruce coolick Man, Yeah, I mean right, yeah,

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so I had that T shirt on. I was the

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only guy who showed up for the audition. They said,

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all right, you can't sing very well, but he likes

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to kiss, let's hire him. So, man, I give on

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how bad I was. The first year I was in

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the band, we were playing Freebird in a town called Versales, Ohio,

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a biker bar, and I was singing it so badly.

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One of the bikers jumped on stage and took the

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microphone away from me and finished the saw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that deserves that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a I had many of those moments.

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But you know, you learn ten thousand hours, you learn

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to do, you know, and and gradually over time. I

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I was moved to Dayton, Ohio, and that's when I

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started my radio career, and we kept singing, and then

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moved to Virginia, went to LA for a year, tried

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to be a rock star out there, had a great

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time with that, and just missed the whole thing, missed

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the scene. But and then maybe it was like after

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the Great Wall in Nirvana hit that's yeah. So I

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got there in ninety two. Oh ma, at there ninety two,

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I had a blast, man.

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Speaker 2: You know. The crazy thing about being in La.

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Speaker 5: Oh I shouldn't say La because I couldn't afford to

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live in La but right outside of there, and a

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couple of different places at Glendora.

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Speaker 2: And Reality, Oh yeah like that, yeah right.

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Speaker 5: The great thing about it at being there in ninety

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two into ninety three, if there was a chance you

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might be a rock star, you kind of got treated

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like a rock star.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was a fun time to be twenty one years old.

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I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 1: I can imagine, dude, I can't. I can't even imagine

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going into the rainbow when I was twenty one years old.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't either, and when and actually doing it felt

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like walking into a movie. Yeah, literally felt like walking

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to movie being and again you know obviously ninety two

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the scene is ending and you could feel like I

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could remember seeing and actually this girl that I was

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having cardinal relationships with her brother brought a cassette of

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a band called Rage Against the Machine. Wow, a demo

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cassette of a Rage Against the Machine, A couple of

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Rage Against the Machine songs. I remember hearing that and

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the things that were happening in music, it was changing.

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You could feel it that everything the face of music

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was changing. I knew nothing about Nirvana, but I knew

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about Alison Chains.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's something that I learned when I was

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on the cruise. The Nelson's were talking about the changeover okay,

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because and they were playing. They were performing in LA

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in the early eighties.

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Speaker 2: They were on Saturday Night Live before anybody knew who

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they were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they heard from somebody because there's just a

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small group of people who run everything. Of course, with

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all the labels every together, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: It happened.

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Speaker 1: It started with disco. Donna Summer was making so much money.

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They didn't want to keep paying people that kind of money.

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So Boom Disco ends well, and then it starts and

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oh there's this punk thing. Oh we don't have to

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pay these fucking people anything, right, so boom there it is,

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and then new wave hits and then it all, Oh geez, look,

475
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,119
these guys are making a ton of money. You know

476
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,000
how the White Snakes, the Guns and Roses, right, eh, hey, Nirvana, Yeah,

477
00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,319
shooty little band out of Seattle, they're the new face.

478
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that.

479
00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:25,559
Speaker 1: Lasts for a little while and cut yeah, yeah.

480
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 2: And I had never thought of that. I'd never looked

481
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,400
at it that.

482
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: That's really something, you know.

483
00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:32,759
Speaker 5: The thing about that the music that we love though,

484
00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:37,319
you know those bands there was it did get obviously

485
00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:38,519
had a little water down, There's no.

486
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 2: Doubt about it.

487
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 5: They got water down out every band was getting signed

488
00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:42,920
and everything like that. And I think I'm just mad

489
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,839
because I missed that. But uh, but you know the

490
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,160
thing is, you got guys.

491
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 2: That's the reason the music still lives. Man.

492
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 5: They were real musicians, These are real songwriters. These were

493
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,599
people who cared about melody lines and cared about the

494
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,599
heart of music. I mean again, I'm gonna bring it

495
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,160
up for the second time because I loved it, and

496
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,920
thank you that Tesla concert last night. Man, Yeah, I've

497
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,559
seen them probably fifteen times in my life. They were

498
00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,200
as good, if not better, than I've ever seen them

499
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,440
last night. And the first time I ever saw him

500
00:21:09,799 --> 00:21:12,799
was opening for David Lee Roth at Haro Arena and Dayton, Ohio.

501
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,279
They opened with the same exact song, coming at You Live.

502
00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:17,240
I mean, it was a great moment last night, and

503
00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:20,200
I'm thinking, as I'm sitting there watching these guys play,

504
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,160
no wonder they were stars, No wonder they made it.

505
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,559
Speaker 1: They were great then, they're great now. These guys were

506
00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:27,680
meant to play music. They were They were like the

507
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480
working man of eighties rock because they didn't do the makeup.

508
00:21:31,519 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: They didn't do the hair.

509
00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean they had long hair, but they didn't do

510
00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:37,000
the hair. They didn't do the spandex and everything that's

511
00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:43,359
stereotyped now overly stereotype. Now they're out there in fucking

512
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:49,039
jeans and always. Then it was just gritty, great melody,

513
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,240
rock and roll man and the guitar work. Frankie's so good,

514
00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:54,880
still so good, just unbelievable.

515
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,559
Speaker 2: You had the gentleman.

516
00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 5: Who the other guitar player on your show? Yeah, damn rude, Yeah, yeah,

517
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,160
my god, that guy gets out on that last Paul

518
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,920
and he's just killing his eyes night.

519
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: He's amazing. That's one of my favorite bands all time.

520
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 5: And I love it when you go see a band

521
00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:09,720
that you had, you know, you love and they start

522
00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:12,799
playing those songs. They played h Love Me last night,

523
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:14,519
you know, and I don't think I ever got to

524
00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:15,240
see him play that.

525
00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:17,279
Speaker 2: Side they did. Did they do a new song last night?

526
00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,480
They did a brand new song? Was It was great?

527
00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:19,880
It was great.

528
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 5: It was kind of a melody, a melodic song, and

529
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:25,400
you could tell, you know, Eddie Trunk was there last night.

530
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,880
Your friend was there last night. And I kept seeing

531
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,920
Jeff kind of looking over emotioning. You could tell he

532
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,799
was singing it for him, so you can here. But

533
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,839
I thought it was great, and I those guys just

534
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,960
write great songs. What else matters? Exactly what matters. We're

535
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,319
both gonna see the same thing, except different shows.

536
00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:39,599
Speaker 2: Tonight.

537
00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: You're gonna go see Scorpions ye with and have you

538
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,839
ever seen an ugly kid Joe Liver scene? You are

539
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,240
going to fucking love their live show.

540
00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: I had.

541
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: I saw him once and that was when they're on

542
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,359
Ozzy Osbourne's No More Tours tour. It was them slaughter

543
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,240
Ozzy Osbourne. That was No More Tears tour and they

544
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,000
were fucking great. And I just remember at the end

545
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,000
to the show, the singer's name is why, Why is

546
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:08,799
it why? Uh uh? He's gonna kick me next time

547
00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:10,640
he sees me. But it's all good, but he said,

548
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,519
all he says is Ozzy Osbourne's fucking god.

549
00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: He threw the micro Now they disappeared.

550
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: Always so much fun that band, but you But I

551
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,039
I had the guitar player, Klaus and the bass player

552
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,799
on the show when they were here last April with Fozzy,

553
00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:28,359
and I had. I hadn't seen them since the early nineties.

554
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,960
And then I go see him. It's like, oh fuck,

555
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,599
I forgot.

556
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: How cut these guys on? I love that. I'm yeah.

557
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,640
And strangely enough, I've never seen Scorpions either. Really. My

558
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,440
first time seeing.

559
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: Scored My first Big Boys show was the Monsters of

560
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,319
Rock tour in nineteen eighty eight. There's somebody in this

561
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,440
apartment with us right now who also saw that show.

562
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

563
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,839
Speaker 5: My manager Sarah Jane over there, She's told me, because

564
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:49,559
she's the biggest Metallica fan I've ever seen, the biggest

565
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,519
Metallica fan I've ever known. And I'm talking old school Metallica. Yeah,

566
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:53,799
so I've heard a lot.

567
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: About that show as somebody who was not a Metallica

568
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,240
fan right at the time, Yeah, I had. I think

569
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,279
I know who they were, but I didn't know them

570
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,920
enough to recognize any of the music shares. Obviously it's

571
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,079
not on the road one to one played played them

572
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:09,920
from time to time, like.

573
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: For the belt Holes or whatever.

574
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: But my first like real experience in Metallica was the

575
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:19,880
MTV special that they did about the tour and they're

576
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,559
you know, the live clip they played on there was Sanitarium, man,

577
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,960
and I thought it was Death by Stereo.

578
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: You know, and Kingdom come came on. They blew me away.

579
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: They were phenomenal funck all the haters, well, they're still

580
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,599
like Zeppelin, who doesn't you know everybody does. He did

581
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,839
a great job being dude. That's uh, Come come to

582
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:45,839
me now. I want to be your best friend. Fall time,

583
00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:48,920
I'll be the shout of Volu tears.

584
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: Man, did they you still play? I'm not se they

585
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,279
really have seen them anywhere. Yeah, I'd love to see that.

586
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

587
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,519
Speaker 1: So and then Metallica came on and I just remember

588
00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:00,759
and we were just talking about this but wearing too much.

589
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,880
But sometimes I used to start going and I can't stop.

590
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,079
I would never do that on live radio, by the way,

591
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,160
but I remember talk at the stage and my jaw

592
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960
hit the ground. I looked at my buddy Bobber, I go,

593
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,799
what the fuck is this?

594
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: Wow? And they're playing song. I had no idea what

595
00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:17,200
the hell it was.

596
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: And I distinctly remember James Setfield coming up to the

597
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:26,279
mic for I didn't even know what song it was

598
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,160
because I didn't know any of the songs. And we're

599
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,279
gonna play some older ship for you. Now, see if

600
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,839
you can figure out what the fuck it is. I'm like, oh,

601
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,680
thank you, But it's brand new to me.

602
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: It's brand new. It was all new to me. And

603
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,160
then then they played Santa Tram and.

604
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:46,759
Speaker 1: There I am dead Bosterio a idiot. But you know,

605
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,359
they played new Ship off of Justice because that was

606
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,720
the summer before Justice came out, and I went out.

607
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:57,359
I bought puppets next day. I was I love that.

608
00:25:57,559 --> 00:25:59,839
Speaker 5: God damn I missed those times that was fun when

609
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,400
you go to see a concert and you just you

610
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,119
can't wait till the record store opens the next man, Yeah,

611
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,039
we had a We had a record store called Stonehenge.

612
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:10,400
The closest one was in Monsey, Indiana, about forty minutes away.

613
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,440
I remember watching Headbanger's Ball. You had Ricky Rockman on

614
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480
your show watching Headbanger's Ball. The night he had Axel

615
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:19,799
and Slash on And the next morning Mom took me

616
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:22,720
to Mounsey, Indiana, and I bought that Appetite.

617
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,599
Speaker 2: For Destruction record. How many times have you purchased that record?

618
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,400
I'm at least ten.

619
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,559
Speaker 1: I had the vinyl, I had the cassette and the

620
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:30,319
CD of course.

621
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those you just keep buying it.

622
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about game changers, like, obviously Nirvana did

623
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,039
what they did, and that kind ofies did what did.

624
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,079
Guns and Roses changed everything for me, man I and

625
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,559
I still do. By the way, I'm not taking shots

626
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:43,960
to anybody.

627
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

628
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 5: I loved Poison, you know, I love too. I loved

629
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,599
those bands. Guns and Roses was greasy Guns and Roses

630
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,480
for me, and then Faster pussy Cat they changed everything

631
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119
for me. La Guns Obviously those guys changed everything for me.

632
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,279
I couldn't be pretty no matter what I did, and

633
00:26:59,319 --> 00:26:59,880
my hair.

634
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: Was always just shit.

635
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,559
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna tell you, man, I could put like

636
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:05,920
a you know, a bandana on my head and go

637
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,119
out and pretend I was in a faster pussy get I.

638
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:09,799
Speaker 2: I loved that whole feeling.

639
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,839
Speaker 5: Those those bands towards the end, you know, the eighty six,

640
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,359
eighty seven, eighty eight, those bands were my favorites.

641
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,759
Speaker 2: You know what sold? It sold guns and roses on me.

642
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,160
What's that? The Live at the Rich show. Really, when

643
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,680
I saw that show, that's when it all changed.

644
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: Because it was raw. They were hammered, they were out

645
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,480
of tune. But it was what they called in business magic. Yeah,

646
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,440
you know, they just it was just you can't you

647
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,880
can't even describe it. If you've never seen it. You

648
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,839
can see it on online, sure, but most of the

649
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,480
people that are gonna watch or listen to the show

650
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:42,880
have seen that.

651
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: They've already seen it. They've seen it. But if you're.

652
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: Slow somehow discovering this because you happen to be a

653
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,759
fan of the fan, sure right, that's something you need

654
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:51,039
to see.

655
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 5: I'll tell you man, They and I've said this before,

656
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,759
and I get weird looks, but for me it works

657
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,559
in my mind. They were my rolling Stones, not my Beatles. Yeah,

658
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,519
they were my rolling Stones. They were the true, authentic,

659
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,880
real Those guys crawled out of the goddamn gutter on

660
00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:06,200
the stage and started playing music that spoke to me,

661
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,880
man that I love all music. There's so many records

662
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000
that changed my life, but that one in particular.

663
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it's it's just it's like, there's there's there's

664
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,039
Van Halen. Yeah, you know that early and this is

665
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:20,960
what I want to you next time. Brian Oak is

666
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,519
in studio. Yeah, he is, said on Common Man he

667
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,599
never wants to hear he didn't even know it existed.

668
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,839
He never wants to hear the David Lee Roth version

669
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:35,720
of Tobacco Road. He never heard that.

670
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: He's never heard it. Why does he? Why? What? What?

671
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:39,680
I look?

672
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: I remember saw saying Van Halen's most overrated band of

673
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,759
all time. He says things just to piss me off.

674
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:48,079
Speaker 2: Yeah he does. I know he does, of course, But

675
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,200
how can you how can you dismiss Van Hale?

676
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: You can't, Yeah, I mean you can't that there's so

677
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960
much about that band, you know again, both versions exactly

678
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:58,480
the way they're two separate bands.

679
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,799
Speaker 2: It's apples and Orgies. Absolutely Lee, and then of course

680
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,319
Gary Sharone. You know, yeah, Gary for sure.

681
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: But I that the first iteration, regardless of whether you

682
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,480
think he can write a song to save his life,

683
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,079
whether or not you you've seen him sing on days

684
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:16,039
where he wasn't fantastic David Lee Ross's top three frontmen

685
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200
of all time period bottom line, love that, love that.

686
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he never I mean I might as well.

687
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920
I didn't even realize I drank that whole beer already.

688
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,839
Would you mind, surgay, please please please, I'm doing I'm

689
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:29,599
good man, I'm fine.

690
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:31,359
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it. Did you grow vagina?

691
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,279
Speaker 5: I wish I had, Dude, I wouldn't, I would have.

692
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:37,880
I have no fingerprints at all of any kind. No, no,

693
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,160
thank you so much. I appreciate it. Yeah, no, I yeah,

694
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440
I could get I don't know so. For me, music

695
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,839
was the thing that literally I've said this too many times.

696
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,799
Music saved my life. Yeah, over and over and over again.

697
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:54,480
It gave me opportunity to get out of my small town.

698
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,319
I grew up just in a place where I knew

699
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,880
I didn't belong. You know, I loved it. Fantastic place

700
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,319
and great people. Just what my deal man and music

701
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,880
got me out of there and through radio and then

702
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,599
the band stuff, and here I sit, I'm fifty three

703
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,160
years old, and.

704
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,759
Speaker 1: I get I'm playing with legitimately.

705
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: If you out there, the Factless Armadillo is one of

706
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,000
the just most talented bands in the country. Yeah, I

707
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,559
get to do that. It's the most fun. I'm in

708
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:21,039
this great rock country band called Rocket.

709
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: That's what I That's where I wanted to go next.

710
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,920
I want to talk about that.

711
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,279
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the Dillos for a second because

712
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:31,519
and it's kind of like it's a completely different monster

713
00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:35,519
than Hairball. I mean Hairball, Yeah is they're putting on

714
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:41,279
the ultimate eighties rock show, the DilOS. Every show is different.

715
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,720
Every show has a theme, right, it is still like that,

716
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,559
So we do different shows.

717
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 5: We have the party band, which goes out and basically

718
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,440
wherever you're at, comes to you and throw at play

719
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,880
songs that everybody's gonna know and everything.

720
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:53,319
Speaker 2: I love.

721
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: That's great.

722
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: Then we do the theme shows you're at like right now,

723
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160
I'm here, but they're doing the acousta DilOS so they're

724
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,559
doing the greatest caustic shows of all time. I'm part

725
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,519
of the the What's going On Vietnam Tribute show Wow,

726
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,799
so yeah, which is unbelievable. And so yeah, there's different

727
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,440
themes and people. People will come even if they don't

728
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,000
know the music, even if they're not sure what the

729
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,720
theme is, even if they don't like the genre, because

730
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,240
the band is always that good and the talent that

731
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:20,440
runs through there is unbelievable. And Greg Armstrong has built

732
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,400
just a incredible, incredible group of musicians and then you

733
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,160
know a name that again, I haven't I haven't played

734
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,160
a show that wasn't sold out or almost sold out

735
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,680
since I joined that band four years ago. Everywhere we

736
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,480
go it's packed. It's the greatest job of all time. Yeah,

737
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,480
because I just show up and sing right, everything's already

738
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,079
done for me. And it's the best songs in the

739
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,839
world from musicians you just can't believe. Yeah, it's and

740
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,079
like I said, there's success that they have. So it's

741
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:48,799
just started out as a oh go do this in

742
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,880
the theater in Sant Cloud Yeah, yeah, you know, and

743
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Greg Armstrong's birthday party. Yeah, and it went well, So

744
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,599
they decided they keep doing it.

745
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just phenomenal. So the Rocket Club when

746
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,319
did when no Rocket Club was on hiatus for a while, Yeah, man,

747
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,720
and I just saw that. You guys just just did

748
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:05,359
shows like this year.

749
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, just a

750
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,039
couple of weeks ago. Now, how long were you on hiatus?

751
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:10,599
What was the cause for the hiatus?

752
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: We were on hiatus for eight years, you know. And

753
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,519
actually the last time I saw you before I left,

754
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,960
I think was at a Rocket Club show at Lake

755
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,759
George and Sat Cloud.

756
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, there you go, Yeah exactly the summertime by George. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

757
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:29,319
So so Rocket Club is this this band we invented

758
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:32,000
our own genre. There's Southern rock. We're a North country band,

759
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,960
you know. Okay, So when we first started, we were

760
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,359
a songwriting team of guys who would get together sort

761
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,839
of like the Tuesday Night music club, Right, We get

762
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,720
together on Wednesdays at Matt Kirkwald's house and just play guitar.

763
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: And love Matt.

764
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: I love he's a brilliant, brilliant game, and just sing

765
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920
songs and play songs. And then we started writing things

766
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,920
and we were more of a triple a band, more

767
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,160
of a like in the Vein of the Bodines, a

768
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,960
band of you know those kind of bands that you

769
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,440
would get on City twenty seven, something like that. But

770
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:05,039
we were given a poem by a gentleman who had

771
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:10,200
lost a daughter and to a childhood disease, a very hard,

772
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:12,359
just wrenching poem, and he asked if we could make

773
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,200
a song out of it. So Joel and Don and

774
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Matt got together and wrote this song. It was called

775
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,359
One More Day and just a really really great song,

776
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,720
a great tribute to a child and to a parent's

777
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:27,039
love for a child. And I'll never forget it. Sarah Jane,

778
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,240
my manager, who has been with me for twenty three years,

779
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,119
we're on our way to play a show in Duluth

780
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,359
and her phone rang and it was somebody from Billboard

781
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,839
magazine and he says, we're all in the band together

782
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720
going to Duluth. And he says, hey, I need information

783
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:41,279
about your band. They're going to be on the Billboard

784
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:43,880
Country charts. We did not we did not know we

785
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,759
were a country band. But One More Day got picked

786
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,079
up by Kiwano two locally in the Twin Cities and

787
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,240
then spread across the nation and station in San Antonio

788
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,599
started playing, a station in Tempe started playing it, and

789
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,359
we made the top fifty of the bill.

790
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: Whah country unsigned band. We did that three times.

791
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,079
Speaker 1: Wow yeah, really shit.

792
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,039
Speaker 5: It was crazy. And you know, by that time, I

793
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,000
was thirty eight, thirty nine. I'd given up on the

794
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:08,920
idea that I was ever going to be a rock star.

795
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,119
You know, my kind of music had passed, and I

796
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,400
was just glad to be in a band. Well, Matt's

797
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,559
pitched to me when he asked me if I wanted

798
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:15,840
to be in rocky club was would you ever want

799
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,559
to be in a band.

800
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,639
Speaker 1: That was like the Eagles?

801
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,599
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, how can we do that? Yeah?

802
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 5: So from that moment until we get that call about

803
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,840
the Billboard Country charts a month and a half later,

804
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,000
less than that, but I had to think about it

805
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:32,800
because I've telled this story from time to time. And

806
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,519
but about a month and a half later, we're standing

807
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,880
on stage at the Grand Old Opry and I know

808
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:38,599
nothing about country music, by the.

809
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: Way, Wow, I nothing.

810
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,679
Speaker 5: We we started getting these calls from management and such

811
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,760
because you're an unsigned country band and making the Billboard charts.

812
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: You're out of Minnesota. Yeah, So standing there.

813
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,599
Speaker 5: With you know, the night Eric Church was playing there

814
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,239
for maybe his first or second time. Big and Rich

815
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,880
are playing that night, Little Jimmy comes out and introduces

816
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,039
himself to us. I mean from in that van on

817
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:06,679
the way to the Looth to play Papa Charlie's and

818
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,760
at Lutsen to standing on stage thinking, oh my gosh,

819
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,119
this might happen. So then we really hit the pedal,

820
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,840
started releasing records and we had another song called One

821
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,519
Thing Beautiful made the Billboard County Charts, and then another

822
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,760
song called North Country that we wrote made the Billboard

823
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,800
Country Charts. And we started doing showcases and we got real,

824
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,119
real close, real real close. And the last one we

825
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,880
did was at thirdon Linsley in Nashville, Great Club. It

826
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,440
was for Sony Nashville, and they flew everybody in from

827
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,199
Sony New York as well, and just people from Sony

828
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:42,360
in there. And if you've ever played a showcase, man,

829
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,440
I have not the weirdest thing in your life, because

830
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,360
everything you ever wanted in your life is laying there

831
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,760
in front of you. Yeah, people who can literally change

832
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,440
your life. Even though at that point now I'm over

833
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,119
forty years old, I can't believe any of this is happening.

834
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: All right, hold on, I'm gonna put this in layman terms. Yeah,

835
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:01,199
Elle McPherson in front of you, Yeah, on her back,

836
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,119
butt naked, spread eagle, saying, give me the time of

837
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:05,719
my life.

838
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: But if it sucks, bye bye, bye bye. That's exactly right.

839
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I know going in in that case, I

840
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,039
got nothing for her, if you know what I mean.

841
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought I had a chance here.

842
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 5: If al McPherson I would just I'd probably already be

843
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,239
done by the time she said those words to me,

844
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,719
to be honest with.

845
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Him, to Detroit. Yeah, but that makes sense to me.

846
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 5: Take him to Detroit, take him somewhere, just get him

847
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,599
away from alb mcpeery. So you get on stage and

848
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:33,599
there's this was a bigger one. There's about twelve people

849
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:35,199
in front of you, and and it's a place that

850
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,400
holds four hundred and you've got to do your show

851
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,320
as if you're on stage at Madison's. Yeah, you know,

852
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,000
and we did. Man, we killed it, killed it. One

853
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,920
of my best shows ever. The music was great by

854
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,320
that time, this band, we were playing country festivals all ooh, yeah,

855
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,280
you were tight. Billy Thomas was our drummer. He's a

856
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,840
drumber for Hair and Johnny Lang exactly. And so we're

857
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,239
just nailing things and we get done. We go backstage

858
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,440
at Thirton Lensley. Our management team from Nashville comes into

859
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,719
the backstage area. Congratulations your sony music artists. Congratulations.

860
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: And at that moment, I you know, literally what do

861
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,199
you do? When are your dreams come true? Right?

862
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 5: Like Willie Wanka says, So the next day at one

863
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,079
o'clock they're going to get the other and sign the

864
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:15,880
PaperWorks and they'll bring us down for the official signing

865
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,719
CEREMONI and blah blah blah.

866
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: The next day.

867
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 5: So and by the way, I have to drive home

868
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,880
after this because it's a mid early afternoon. So I

869
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,920
had to drive home because I had to do the

870
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,679
morning show the next morning. Of course, I drove all

871
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,840
night with Luke Kramer, who was the guitar player for

872
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,719
g BU lighting for some and then was for Rocket Club.

873
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,559
Speaker 2: Drove all night long thinking what am I gonna do?

874
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:33,599
I gotta take a leave of absence.

875
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: I got kids, you know, I mean, I've yeah, but

876
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:37,880
I'm going, man, this is it, that's finally happened.

877
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 5: This is going to happen for me. One o'clock the

878
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,239
next day comes and goes. Two o'clock, the next day

879
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,880
comes and goes, three o'clock, comes and goes. A little

880
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,760
after three, we finally get a call and she says,

881
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:52,039
I think her name was LORII. She says, I'm sorry. Guys,

882
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:52,559
they passed.

883
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: They passed, but they told us.

884
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: They just told us, not even twenty four hours ago

885
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,760
that we were signed, said they. It came down to

886
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:05,960
the head of Sony Music Nashville, and he said, I

887
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,519
love the band, I love their music, I love everything

888
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:10,079
about them, but they're just too damn old.

889
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,679
Speaker 2: That was it, and that was it, man.

890
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,159
Speaker 5: And I tell you, if they had said the singer's

891
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:18,159
too fat, I've lost weight, and said you needed more songs,

892
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,440
we'd have wrote more sons. The thing they would we

893
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,639
could have changed anything else. You can't change that, you know.

894
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,639
And that broke my heart. And we were together for

895
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:28,760
another year and released some, in my opinion, some of

896
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,320
our best songs in the year after that. But that

897
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480
was the moment that broke up the band, that broke

898
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:37,320
my heart, you know. It was they dangled the carrot

899
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,119
and then I had the care to my hand for

900
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:40,920
a moment and then it was just ripped out of

901
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,119
my hand. And and you know, I've had a great

902
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,840
life since then, and some things have happened that I'm

903
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,000
really really happy that, you know, everything.

904
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Turned out the way it was supposed to. But that

905
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,760
just killed me. It's so sad. And this shows how

906
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,800
big of a rube I am. In my head right now,

907
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,239
all it can hear is PA, that's yeah.

908
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: I can't believe man. I'll tell you that was.

909
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 5: That was a heartbreaker, It really was. And you know, we,

910
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,559
like I said, we did this thing. Then after that

911
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,559
for the next year, and that was twenty thirteen, we

912
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,719
wrote a song and released a song every month the

913
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440
entire year, wrote and released a brand new song, and

914
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,840
then we made it in a record called the Lucky

915
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,719
thirteen Record. But by the end of that record, we

916
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,440
weren't even talking to each other. Oh wow, we were

917
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,159
so mad at each other. I still contend that it

918
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,880
all sprung from the heartbreak. Yeah, you know, each of

919
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,239
you blaming the other well, you know, and and so

920
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719
we I didn't speak to any of them, any of.

921
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:35,039
Speaker 1: Them for eight years. Wow. And I didn't even listen

922
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,360
to the music for four years. Wow.

923
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,039
Speaker 5: I got, you know, I kept I started the Chris

924
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:40,920
Hocky band and it had some fun doing that. Worked

925
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,480
my ass off to try to build that up to

926
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:43,800
the level that we were for Rocket Web.

927
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:45,079
Speaker 2: Was that was that a cover band?

928
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 5: Was original, all original, Yeah, and a lot of it.

929
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,559
I farmed out of Nashville, got Jason Perry. I don't

930
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,159
know if you know Jason, but he lives down in Nashville,

931
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:54,639
and he would find me some songs and I was

932
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:56,840
writing some songs, had a great band. Took a while

933
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,280
to build back up to that again, and then I

934
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,000
got a job to and television for AMZOYL Championship snow

935
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Cross and I was doing that and still working for

936
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,719
the Viking, still doing my radio stuff, and gradually just

937
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,039
started to heal a little bit.

938
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 2: And poof eight years.

939
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 5: Later, Don's wife decided to throw him a fiftieth birthday

940
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,880
party and we all met in his garage and surprised

941
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,960
him and started talking again, and you know, released a

942
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,320
lot of the tension and realized, you know, all the

943
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,559
silly things that you when you when you when you

944
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,440
forget the reason you're doing music and you start doing

945
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:32,679
music for the chase of the record deal. And instead

946
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,480
of doing it for the love of the music. Everything

947
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,880
gets perverted, man, everything, And that's what happened to us,

948
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,920
and it broke us up. And now we're back together.

949
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,480
We did a new record and turned out great, and

950
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,239
we get to play about twenty shows a year together and.

951
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:42,519
Speaker 2: I love it.

952
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: That dude, that's awesome because there's something that people need

953
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,000
to realize. No matter how old you are. Remember why

954
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:56,159
you started playing music, One for the trim and two Yeah,

955
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,559
because it's fun.

956
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, if you're not having fun, you're in the

957
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,440
wrong business man. Yeah, why would you do it? You know,

958
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,719
It's not like most of us aren't going to get

959
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,440
rich doing it. No.

960
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm up there every time, even to this day.

961
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,639
Every time i'm up there, I'm pretending I'm Sebastian Bach.

962
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm up there.

963
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: Pretending I'm John bon Jobey jumping around.

964
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,119
Speaker 2: You know.

965
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: I love it.

966
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,559
Speaker 5: I am still that young man, and luckily, I think

967
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:19,840
it has a lot to do with what we do

968
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,400
for a living.

969
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

970
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,559
Speaker 5: I could sing eighteen nights in a row and be

971
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:25,559
as strong on nine eighteen as I was on night one.

972
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,360
My vocal cords are like that big around I'm not

973
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,880
a great singer, but I can see it a lot.

974
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,360
I do it as much as I can. And luckily,

975
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,320
you know, we played eighty three shows with the Dillos

976
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400
last year and I have a full time job. You know,

977
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,559
it's great, but you know, and to your point about

978
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:41,639
why people do it, I think about the Sonic Highways

979
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,159
series that Dave Grohl did.

980
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,119
Speaker 2: Oh that was amazing, amazing.

981
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,039
Speaker 5: In the very last episode when they're doing there, he's

982
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:54,480
talking to President Obama and they're sitting in the Presidential

983
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,320
Library talking about the things. I'll never forget this man

984
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,480
as long as I live. This's changed my perspective on

985
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,280
so much because you know, sometimes you do say, why

986
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,239
am I going to play a gig again tonight? You know,

987
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,920
I'm tired. I got it to work in the morning.

988
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,559
They essentially the point of the whole thing was President

989
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:15,280
Obama says, you know, somewhere tonight, there's a kid who's

990
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,440
contemplating what they're gonna do with their life. And that

991
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:22,239
kid might come to see your show on the Town

992
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,199
Green and Saint Cloud, Minnesota, and you might inspire him.

993
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:28,280
He might pick up a guitar and he might write

994
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,159
a song that inspires a kid who writes the greatest

995
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,599
song ever written and changes and in generation that you're

996
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,400
not even alive for. And he said, you know, that's

997
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,039
the river and I call it feeding the river Man.

998
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,039
So every time I go to a show, I keep

999
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,000
that in mind. There might there might be somebody out

1000
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,800
there who goes home and plays you know, because we

1001
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,760
played a James Gang song.

1002
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: Oh which one you name it? We played walk Away? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,079
of course. Yeah. So let's say we played walk Away. Wait,

1004
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:53,679
hold on, hold on?

1005
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Was it the studio version or was the live version

1006
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,199
that they did with all the psychedelic shit going on?

1007
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, is that a studio version? Though?

1008
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,639
Speaker 5: I know, I know, but you know exactly what I'm

1009
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:05,920
talking rules absolutely, But you know my man's stretch, he's

1010
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,559
he's a stickler.

1011
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 2: We're gonna play the you know, we're gonna play the

1012
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:10,199
studio person. He's gonna kill it, of course he is.

1013
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can play that song and inspires a

1014
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,239
guy who goes home and plays it for his kid,

1015
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,840
and his kid has inspired to pick up the guitar.

1016
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,079
Speaker 2: I just beat the river man.

1017
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,639
Speaker 1: Music.

1018
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,639
Speaker 5: It matters, It changes lives, It saves lives. It saves

1019
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:22,880
my life multiple times. Man, I love it and it's

1020
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,360
so funny.

1021
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: Going back to h Taylor Swift, I said the exact

1022
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:30,480
same thing about where those kids that sounded like led Zeppelin.

1023
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:34,920
Oh uh okay, that's drawing a blank right now too.

1024
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,079
Speaker 2: But we we all know who we're talking that band.

1025
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: That band does it start with the uh uh? It's

1026
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,679
what is wrong with us?

1027
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1028
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but everybody they do still like Zeppelin. Yeah,

1029
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:50,480
but they're selling. They are selling out. There are teenage

1030
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,519
girls going to those shows, and guys that are going

1031
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:56,119
to those shows are trying to get with those teenage girls,

1032
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,719
and they're going, look at what's up there.

1033
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I should do that. That's it, man, that's it.

1034
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,559
Feed the river man keeping Steen.

1035
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,159
Speaker 1: Jean Simmons had that famous quote on Kiss Exposure No

1036
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,280
Extreme close up? Was it kiss Extreme close Up? Where

1037
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,840
he goes I was watching the Beatles and Ed Sullivan

1038
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:19,480
and all of a sudden the camera panned around and

1039
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:23,039
there sounded like microphone feedback, and it was girls going,

1040
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,400
I want to do that.

1041
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 5: That's a great Gene Simmons impersonation, by the way, that's

1042
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,039
pretty damn it's pretty good.

1043
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: It is not as good as my Sebastiss.

1044
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Listen to his audio book, and dude, I'm telling you,

1045
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880
I wasn't listening. I was just listening to his voice

1046
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,480
the entire time, and every time he laughed, I was like,

1047
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:47,679
oh my god, this guy kills me. Mat I love it.

1048
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,159
I drove.

1049
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: I drove two Minnesota from l A once and I

1050
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,559
listened to that audio book and it was literally thirteen

1051
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:58,679
hours of it was whiskey and cokine.

1052
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,559
Speaker 5: That story about him going to the Moscow Music Festival

1053
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:03,000
and as he.

1054
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Going, Jesus Christ, do you ever shut up? I love it.

1055
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,679
I gotta hear that, man, fuck it.

1056
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:09,679
Speaker 1: I had the first time I had Jeff Lebar on

1057
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:13,239
this show. We were and I became friends with him.

1058
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,679
On that first run of cruises that we did in

1059
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,760
twenty fourteen. It was Monsters on the Blue, which was

1060
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,679
the Moody Blues Cruise at the time, and then Cruise

1061
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:23,199
of the Edge, which is the Yes Prague Cruise and

1062
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,800
all that stuff, and he was on all three with

1063
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,079
the spand but he did Cinderella on Monsters, but there

1064
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,960
was a cover band on on all three of them

1065
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,320
that he WoT right. So that's when I got to

1066
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,119
know him. That's why I hung out with him. And so,

1067
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,480
you know, we swapped numbers and you know, drank at

1068
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,360
the hotel bar, at the Lebar.

1069
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,159
Speaker 2: At the bar, you know, it was fucking gold.

1070
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,559
Speaker 1: So he was on the show and we were talking

1071
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:50,840
about the Moscow Music Peace Festival and he started laughing.

1072
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:58,880
He's like, dude, I can't do his voice, but he's

1073
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,280
like he started talking about how skid Row and Sebastian

1074
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,519
was robbing, robbing, rooming with Rob Fuso.

1075
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and they couldn't.

1076
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: Deal with them already at that point, so they kicked

1077
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,119
him out of his room and the bar goes.

1078
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,559
Speaker 2: I took him in.

1079
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: I love them, did you imagine? And he said, those

1080
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,159
two ripped it up?

1081
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:22,119
Speaker 2: Were those the.

1082
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 5: Two that went up to the top of the building

1083
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,840
there that they weren't allowed to go up to to

1084
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,239
like the I've heard the story that I think.

1085
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: It might have been Lebar the mooning they mooned, Yeah exactly,

1086
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,000
that was Lebar. Yeah, wow, holy moo.

1087
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I as you can tell that hole all those bands.

1088
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,519
That's why I love I read everything I hear it. Yeah,

1089
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,480
I love those stories, man, that's why your story is

1090
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,280
fascinating to me. Men me because your friends with all

1091
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:46,960
my hero.

1092
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: It's so weird. It's incredible, dude, it's so weird to

1093
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,400
know that I can.

1094
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,559
Speaker 1: Text Ricky Rackman. Ricky Rackman was just on the Adam

1095
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,960
Carolla Show. Yeah, and that's the first time they've taught

1096
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:01,960
I think since the nineties. Kidding. And I made that happen,

1097
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,519
No kidding, Yeah, I made that because I saw Ricky

1098
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:08,000
was going to be in l A. I texted him, Hey,

1099
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,800
are you available? Well, I didn't ask him, but I

1100
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,840
texted my best friend, my the singer of the band

1101
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,840
that I'm in, Okay Dawson, who's the produce, one of

1102
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,760
the producers in the Voice of the Corolla Show, And

1103
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,360
I'm like, find out if they would want Ricky Radman

1104
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:26,559
because we had talked about this before and it just

1105
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:29,199
worked out because that's something you can't do over the phone.

1106
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:30,639
You can't do it over zoom. It has to be

1107
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:37,119
in person. And it happened and all fucking hatchets were

1108
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,639
buried and they just had a great conversation.

1109
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:41,599
Speaker 2: You know. But dude, it's weird.

1110
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: It's it's really really weird that I can I'm sitting.

1111
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,159
So we're sitting at the Hotel Bar yesterday, right, and

1112
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,079
I'm sitting with three of the l three of the

1113
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:52,519
guys from.

1114
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: The El Parsons Project.

1115
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: Incredible, and how we were talking about the comedy thing

1116
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,800
I do. It's called punchlines and bad clients. So we

1117
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,199
take a musician who's never done stand up before. So

1118
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,840
we had Kip Winger do it. We do it on

1119
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,440
the Monster's Cruise. Yeah, Kip Winger. We had Red Beach,

1120
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,960
we had Todd Latory from Queen's Reich. God who did

1121
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,400
it this year? Jeff Scott Soto, the guy that the

1122
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:19,079
guy that's saying fucking yeah yeah. So I told him

1123
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:21,079
that I had that we had Kip do it, and

1124
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,719
he goes, I played with.

1125
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: Them or no, kid played with us or something like that,

1126
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:28,000
something to that.

1127
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: I think he was kid played with us for a

1128
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,960
little while helping fill in, And I'm like the funk

1129
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,719
out of here. So I I could text Kip Winger

1130
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,000
and send him a picture. He goes, Oh, tell him.

1131
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:41,519
I said, Hi, it's just the weirdest fucking thing that's crazy,

1132
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,199
and it's still I still pinch myself. I mean, it's

1133
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:46,840
you know, people like, why are you so broken up

1134
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,880
about c J Sarah because he was a friend, you know,

1135
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,599
Jeff Lebarr was a friend. And it's like, I hooked

1136
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,039
you up with those tickets laws night, I texted Frank.

1137
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,920
I texted Frank handed.

1138
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's and again that's awesome, man, though, It's just

1139
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,079
those are my all those guys, you know, yeah, I

1140
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,719
mean my not even closetive dream. I say this all

1141
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,639
the time on the show. If I ever get a

1142
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,280
chance to audition for any of those bands for any reason,

1143
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,599
I see you later.

1144
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:15,079
Speaker 2: Radio, I'm gone, man, it doesn't matter, you know.

1145
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:18,199
Speaker 5: I those those bands still go out and put on

1146
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,719
great shows and play the songs that I love.

1147
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,159
Speaker 1: Man, I freaking love that. Well, you wouldn't have to

1148
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,159
leave radio anyways, because half of the time they're just

1149
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:25,440
doing weekend flya gigs.

1150
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,159
Speaker 5: Anyway, that's true, you're right, yeah, And you can do

1151
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,079
radio from anyway right now, obviously.

1152
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: We're yeah, exactly exactly. You just have to get to

1153
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,559
where the vikings are point. That's exactly right.

1154
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe eat your time off during Viking season, but no,

1155
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,159
you know, I and to see some of these bands

1156
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:41,119
and they bring in the replacement. That's the reason I

1157
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:43,360
bring it up. They bring in replacement singers and you're like,

1158
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,320
holy shit, that kid that they had in skid Row

1159
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,599
could sing his ass off. Man, it feels so bad

1160
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:49,920
for him.

1161
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,559
Speaker 2: I know. It's a horrible situation, you know.

1162
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 5: I mean all the you know I and you see

1163
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,599
the different versions of Gray White, you see all these things,

1164
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:58,360
and you're like, my gud that the music's still living

1165
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,760
out there.

1166
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: Man. I just I'd love to be a that stuff. Dude.

1167
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,800
It's so weird because growing up in St. Claud I

1168
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,480
went to Cathedral.

1169
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did this show every year called Rock

1170
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,360
around the Clock. It was the yearly fundraiser. It was

1171
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,119
put on by Bobby v. And do you know Bobby

1172
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:16,159
got his break now he filled in for Buddy Holly

1173
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:21,159
the night that Buddy died. That's how he got his break. Wow. Yeah,

1174
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,679
and said he said, all his kids to Cathedral because

1175
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,360
he was but he was from Fargo for sure, And

1176
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,400
so he started doing the show every year as a fundraaker.

1177
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,639
Cathedral a private Catholic school, and trust me, my mom

1178
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,400
had to There was financial assistance involved for sure, but

1179
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,199
but the fundraiser was called Rock around the clock here

1180
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,920
we bring in all.

1181
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: These fifties and sixties bands. Yeah, you know, so I

1182
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,920
saw Jan and Dean, I saw the fourth grade.

1183
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,079
Speaker 1: Chubby Checker pulled me on stage and I did the

1184
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:48,360
twist with Chubby Checker.

1185
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: That's where it all started again. Yeah right, but you.

1186
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: Know you see all those bands, but we always bitch, well, Roy,

1187
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,440
can't they have the original band back together?

1188
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,559
Speaker 2: Well? Did it was? This is been going on forever.

1189
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Sure at this point in the eighties, the bands from

1190
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,320
the sixties and seventies were already replacing.

1191
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you know that's it happened to Kiss. It

1192
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:10,599
happened with.

1193
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody.

1194
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1195
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:13,679
Speaker 5: You keep the music flowing as much as you can,

1196
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,559
you keep the checks coming, you keep playing the games.

1197
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:18,199
You know, I I completely understand it again, you know,

1198
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:20,000
you go to these shows like I was at the

1199
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,800
very first what's the festival in Key West?

1200
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Was the name of that festival in Key West? Broke

1201
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:25,599
on the Sands?

1202
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:29,599
Speaker 1: No close? It was all eighties bands. Yeah, yeah, it

1203
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,079
was eighties in the sand right now, I forget what

1204
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,000
It's called. Rock on the Island, Rock Island. Oh yeah,

1205
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:36,920
Rock Island, Rock Island. Y.

1206
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, So we go there and sadly, my manager broke

1207
00:51:41,039 --> 00:51:43,599
her back the next day on a on a water craft,

1208
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:44,760
so we missed.

1209
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:48,039
Speaker 1: She r on my VACATIONE likely she's good now.

1210
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 5: But going down there and seeing those bands, you know,

1211
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:54,920
most of the time, as we said, the guy doing

1212
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,880
the singing or the guy doing the guitar playing are

1213
00:51:57,199 --> 00:51:58,280
just nailing it in a way.

1214
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,079
Speaker 2: I look at that and he to that Eddie Trunk

1215
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:01,920
just asking.

1216
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 5: If you want tickets? See, no, that's the thing. If

1217
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,599
Eddie asked if you want tickets, I bet you go. Well,

1218
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,880
I asked you if you wanted a ticket.

1219
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: No, I already committed to going to Elle Guns and

1220
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,320
Tom Keefer tonight. Yeah, because I know that this is

1221
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,760
the start of the Scorpions residency. Yeah, I can still

1222
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,599
see the show r Yeah, yeah for sure. I mean

1223
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,079
I would love be at the first one, but I

1224
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:21,840
already committed.

1225
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: What can I do? I understand? Yeah?

1226
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 5: How many who who's still in La Guns? Tray st

1227
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,239
Phil that's it? Yeah, cool, that's all you need, that's

1228
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,679
of course.

1229
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1230
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,559
Speaker 5: And that's no, there's no shot you know, yes, yeah,

1231
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:35,880
that's that's La Guns for me. That always will be yeah,

1232
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000
you know. Yeah, And and Tom. Does Tom play all

1233
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,960
sendy stuff or does he plays nine right? And he's

1234
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,920
still because he has a couple. He has a great solos.

1235
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: Christ Man, that guy's a songwriter.

1236
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, that guy is a song and another fascinating band

1237
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,320
in our genre that we love. Of a band who

1238
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,519
just decided this is who we really are. We're gonna

1239
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:58,000
do it whether you like it or not. Yeah, I

1240
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,679
think they could have been ninety times bigger than they

1241
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,679
were if they hadn't decided just to stick to what

1242
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,920
who they really were? You know the second that second

1243
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,239
third record, Those records are freaking.

1244
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: Cold winter manut, I know that album is so good.

1245
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,199
Speaker 2: That is who they are who Tom was.

1246
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, I know, I'm I'm of you know,

1247
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,239
it's a split decision for me tonight. I Scorpions are

1248
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,840
Tom Keifer and again the tickets to the Scorpions are free,

1249
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,639
and the tickets for I've never seen the Scorpions before.

1250
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,159
It's a fight, man, I don't know. Oh, well, it's

1251
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,760
a good choice after you decide you want to go.

1252
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,800
I have a plus one.

1253
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: I love it.

1254
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,039
Speaker 2: But you obviously you got you got your manager.

1255
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, Yeah, I don't know, man, I

1256
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,920
tell you how those bands, dude, I mean, think about

1257
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,840
worldwide life. When that came out, that live record for

1258
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:48,960
the Scorpions.

1259
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: Cheez the like, here's talking about kiss. This is the

1260
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:57,639
weirdest fucking thing. So a couple of weeks ago, uh,

1261
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:01,719
the drummer from the Food Fighters who passed, Yeah, his

1262
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,239
his cover band Chevy Metal, was playing in town and

1263
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,519
they have his kid filling it. I know that, and

1264
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:10,559
I know the guitar player, Brent was a good friend

1265
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:13,280
of mine. They're playing at vamped and I go there.

1266
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,400
I just it's elbows to assholes. I'm I mean, v

1267
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,519
I p because.

1268
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: Girls like that. Ah.

1269
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:26,639
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, well fucking Nerd Halen is playing

1270
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:29,960
at the Virgin. That's how Sparks's band. Okay, you know

1271
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,480
how Sparks.

1272
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: I do not.

1273
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: He was queer as folk, he's actor, comedian, he was

1274
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,679
on uh the face Yeah, anyways, but I'm friends with

1275
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,519
those guys. I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna go

1276
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:46,039
check in here. I'm gonna go check in there. And

1277
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,320
that was I forgot that. Brent Michaels was playing at

1278
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,360
the Virgin that night, right, and they're playing in this tiny,

1279
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,760
little lounge in the front right, and Bruce Clic is

1280
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,599
standing there. My god, and I go up and say

1281
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:59,079
hi to him because I know him. And as I'm

1282
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:02,239
walking away, I heard him say to his wife Lisa,

1283
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,000
finally somebody that I know.

1284
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's the best ever.

1285
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:09,079
Speaker 1: But then he comes over. He goes, is, let's take

1286
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:11,400
a picture. I'm like, that's see, dude, really, I just

1287
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,400
want to send it to somebody.

1288
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: That's so cool. He just happened to be at the show.

1289
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,400
Does he live out here somewhere? But yeah, he lives here.

1290
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,880
Everybody lives here. Yeah, here here in Nashville. That's where

1291
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,440
everybody's going.

1292
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 5: Yeah right, that Nashville's getting in and d Yeah. And

1293
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,639
I've got a lot of friends who live down there

1294
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:26,800
now and it's becoming becoming a bit much to be

1295
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,519
it is.

1296
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: It is, And I think people are going away from

1297
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,960
Austin now because it's turning into la absolutely, and nobody

1298
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,760
needs that in their lives.

1299
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, I tell you, man, I don't know this.

1300
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,800
Where you live is a choice, right, yeah?

1301
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1302
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:37,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1303
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 5: I love it out here. I'd probably be broke, dick

1304
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,079
poor if I lived here. But you can play music

1305
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:43,480
every night.

1306
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:45,559
Speaker 1: What else do you can You can't, dude, I know

1307
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,320
you got to go to a show. Yep, you got

1308
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,440
to go to a show. I got to go to

1309
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,960
a show, and we can sit here and talk for

1310
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000
two more. He probably could. Whether anybody liked that.

1311
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you this because I firmly

1312
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:54,760
believe this.

1313
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,679
Speaker 1: If I would have kept doing what I was doing

1314
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,440
with the with the paper, magazine, with the radio, I

1315
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,679
still think it. Part of my middle name is delusions

1316
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,960
of Grant. Right, I probably would be on that show

1317
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,840
with you right now. I'll tell you, man, you would

1318
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,599
fit in perfectly, obviously. You know the show.

1319
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:14,519
Speaker 5: It's it's fun what we've you know, we're on a

1320
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,119
sports radio station, and it's you know, there's a lot

1321
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:19,920
of sports, but it's we cover every base and that

1322
00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:22,480
sort of my my goal when they when they gave

1323
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:25,079
us the morning show, they had me right. My my

1324
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:28,760
mission statement, and my mission statement was to make people

1325
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,840
feel better when they get in their car than they

1326
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,880
did when they woke up that morning. Everybody's you know,

1327
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:36,320
carrying their own load. Everybody's having an our time. Most

1328
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,760
people are going to a job they don't want to

1329
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,639
be going to it's early in the morning. If I

1330
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:42,679
can make somebody smile, that's I've done my job for

1331
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,559
the day. Where it's all about. I've surrounded myself with

1332
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,440
my friends. My job is to get up in the morning,

1333
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:49,159
make my friends laugh, go home a night, take a nap,

1334
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:50,480
get up and go play a gig somewhere.

1335
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:53,679
Speaker 1: I'm living the dream and to try to show Meat,

1336
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,840
Sauce and Corey what real music.

1337
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: They won't do it.

1338
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,079
Speaker 1: They won't admit.

1339
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 5: And you know, I can see the look on their

1340
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,480
face sometimes when you started talking about Tesla.

1341
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:05,159
Speaker 2: They trust me, man, listen, but they do it. This's

1342
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,079
just to rile me up.

1343
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,679
Speaker 5: And that's okay. I'm starting the gospel, man, I'm spreading

1344
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:10,159
the gospel. I'm spreading the go of course.

1345
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1346
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,079
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool because I'm I am a kind

1347
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:15,360
of a fame horror at times.

1348
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: I think we all are.

1349
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: Everybody is.

1350
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what I got a couple of tweets, dude,

1351
00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:22,960
is that you on the fuck it? Yeah, it's it's

1352
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,400
been man. I can't tell you that that everything.

1353
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:25,599
Speaker 2: Man.

1354
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:27,599
Speaker 5: You know, the fun thing about the band and the

1355
00:57:27,679 --> 00:57:30,199
radio show is they fed each other so well. Yeah,

1356
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:33,320
I mean, you know, in the Upper Midwest, you go

1357
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,719
places and the radio show people are listening. You go

1358
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:37,760
a place and you're playing the band and and people

1359
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,920
are there. It's it's worked. It's worked.

1360
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: Somehow it worked. It's awesome. No plan it worked.

1361
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. I'm so happy for your success.

1362
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:50,480
We still have to do rocket club, smoke and kill shows.

1363
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:53,519
Speaker 5: I would love it. And listen, hey, let's get together

1364
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:55,079
and do some stuff out here. Man, bring it. Let's

1365
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:56,159
all come out and we'll play some shows.

1366
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I would love it. I see so many

1367
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,400
great bands out here. I just I just want to sing. Man.

1368
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,800
It's fun, dude, that's what it's all about. Christ Hockey.

1369
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:06,599
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, be of course, now hold on,

1370
00:58:06,719 --> 00:58:08,800
let me uh let me hit the true music.

1371
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course.

1372
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Check him out every morning Monday through Friday at

1373
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,119
what five thirty to nine gone gone man A F

1374
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:21,960
A N. You can find him on the iHeart radio

1375
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:24,599
app and cafe in I listen to when I can.

1376
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,079
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'm not I'm not gonna lie. It's

1377
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:29,679
like usually I turn on Corolla as soon as they

1378
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:30,039
wake up.

1379
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:31,599
Speaker 1: I don't blame you a bit, but I still I

1380
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,840
chime in and I'm like, oh fuck it.

1381
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: I would be fun on the uh the initials game.

1382
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:36,920
I'd be a.

1383
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,039
Speaker 5: Blast sometimes it's fun. Yeah, five thirty nine camp in

1384
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:43,679
the Potrip Morning Show. iHeart radio all over the country.

1385
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,400
Check us out and come see my band. I'm playing

1386
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,000
somewhere tonight.

1387
00:58:47,199 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh in your mind you are.

1388
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: They can find rock club rock club dot rocky club

1389
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,239
dot band l Yeah, there you go a Stargellows.

1390
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: Dot com and uh, Chris Hockey dot com. Check me out,

1391
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,559
all right, very good.

1392
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: You can find me real Lizzie Presley, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1393
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,800
all the way across the board. Also on the venmo

1394
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,639
if you do appreciate what I do, because I will

1395
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:12,239
never charge for this show. And uh, then we get

1396
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,119
we have to get her framed. She's she's home, ladies

1397
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:17,920
and gentlemen, and the sum bitch is gonna protect her.

1398
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that guy. Oh he's eye bother her.

1399
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Speaker 1: Of course I left these two alone week.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, she's pregnant. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: And keeping uh A recorded an interview with the bass

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player from Collective Soul, which will air next month.

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Speaker 2: I Love you guys go fuck yourselves, and yeah,