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Speaker 2: Morning, and my goodness, thank.
Speaker 3: God they go a lot better to come in here today.
Speaker 2: Flynn, Jake, we're all here.
Speaker 4: How was dreadnet about half of two one?
Speaker 7: I'm like, man, there's nothing worsewhere.
Speaker 2: It looked bad.
Speaker 3: We just saw Ole Miss lose to Murray State, and
I'm like, oh, I want to make fun of them
so bad, but I can't until we win, and then
it's too late to make fun of them. But I'm
glad that LSU was victorious, because it would have been
a pretty tough show to come in here after losing
to Little Rock, who fought like hell, credit to them,
tip of the cap, respect. That was a team that
did like everything they possibly could to get a victory
and go to a super regional.
Speaker 2: But LSU finds a way and wins ten to six.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Look, I was watching this game and you know, admittedly,
you guys know hadn't followed much of the baseball until
this beautiful job. But I've been locked in and I
was sitting there watching the game, you know, yelling at
the kids to come watch it with me, all this stuff,
and they're losing, and I'm like, oh my gosh, Day two,
Like I've already I'm already talked out for the week.
Speaker 4: I've done, I've done one three hour show.
Speaker 8: We're going into Tuesday like, oh lordy, Like, I don't
think I'm ready for like a depressed LSU just got
eliminated by Little Rock show it would have been and look,
that's that is one of the more difficult this job
is when something like that happens and you're like, oh
my god, that's.
Speaker 2: Going to bring the vibe now, it's gonna be just.
Speaker 5: A more season. Yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: You're gone fishing.
Speaker 8: And I know we'll get into like a lot of
the details of the game and talk about it.
Speaker 4: But man, what a what a turnaround?
Speaker 8: And what did I told Taylor when I walked in
this morning, What did difference just one dude can make
on a team's morale energy levels?
Speaker 4: Like bringing the Jews? The team looked dead, they looked asleep.
Speaker 8: They were making some decent plays here and there, they
had the home run.
Speaker 4: Early, but like there was just no juice. I didn't
see any Jews playing.
Speaker 8: And then this little dude, this freshman, runs out on
the mound and super hyperactive pitching motion, wind up and
just talking and celebrating, and all of a sudden, you
just like I could feel it in my house watching
the game. I was like, oh my gosh, what a
breath of fresh air this dude is. And then everyone
just feeds off it. It happens all the time. You
see it sometimes when like a backup QB comes in
a little bit.
Speaker 4: I guess, well, you just see it in sports all
the time.
Speaker 8: The difference one dude with a lot of energy, confidence
talking that Ish can do to bring up. Everybody just
looked like stale. Man, they looked stale. They looked dead,
They looked tired of sleep, you know what I mean.
And Little Rock didn't know. They didn't They looked like
the scrappy little team that was there with nothing to lose,
just looked like they were like holding on.
Speaker 4: They wanted up. They wanted Little Rock to to lose
the game.
Speaker 2: Basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then once they figured out, oh, they're not
going they're not going to do that, we gotta do something.
Speaker 5: That's interfering to relax. He needed to like just take.
Speaker 3: You were fast, you were athletic, you're getting to those balls,
you're getting great jumps, and you didn't need to jump.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're not getting on top ten.
Speaker 3: Exactly what you told last night. I was like, man,
he doesn't need to jump, Like that's are great players.
I was like, yeah, they are, but he's trying to
get on Sports Center time.
Speaker 6: You can't get you can't get on it if you jump.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 8: I remember doing that as a kid, like you're playing
catch or you're you're in practice or something, and like,
you know, you can get to this pop up, but
I'm gonna wait a couple of seconds before I start
my run a little.
Speaker 4: Bit because I wanted to.
Speaker 8: I want to get a little dive, man, I want
to get a little backhand side action.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you.
Speaker 7: It was I feel like you could kind of see
it start to turn for the Tigers a little bit.
And I kind of saw it too, where it was like, Okay,
you're facing you know, a midweek team, you know what
I mean, Like for sure, there's a point where he
had like two straight walks. I think he walked Koreel
with like four straight balls, and you're like, Okay, this
is a picture that you've seen before. You know, like
you've seen this guy in the midweek. You've seen this team,
and they were literally the only team in the tournament
that had a losing record. So I just feel like
Sunday was just such that wasn't the team that LSU
is and the beginning of the game yesterday wasn't either,
and they just had they needed Case and Evans to
come in, fire them up and get it together. It
was Yeah, that game had me about to go into
cardiac orus.
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get really diving into the game, the thing for me
is what.
Speaker 2: We talked about yesterday. And look, I.
Speaker 3: Gave Scowe and his credit because he did nail that
Zach Cowen was going to start that game.
Speaker 2: That was not the decision that we thought in this room.
Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be Caseon Evans and
then Zach Cowen would come into the game because of
all the reasons we talked about. I mean, Zach Cowen
is somebody that has not started a baseball game this year.
Speaker 2: He now last year, Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 3: He had big moments and the stage being big is
not new to him, like he's done that many times
in his career. But we talked about it like when
you haven't done something in a long time, a full
year of baseball and you haven't gone out there and
been the guy to throw the first pitch man. Baseball
is so mental and there's so many little things that
can go wrong, and you knew immediately that Zach Cowen
didn't have his best stuff, and if we're being honest
with ourselves, he hasn't had his best stuff in a
long time, and so like that's why here in this
room we're like, Okay, well it's gonna be Case and
Evans and then you're going to try to get to
Zach Cowen. And luckily for LSU, they didn't get too
far behind before Evans could come in and do what
he did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 8: I think about the decision again, I'm kind of, you know,
a little bit late to the party on learning all
these names and the pedigrees and their history and what
they've done. But I kind of understand the decision from
just a mental aspect. You're playing your fourth game, your
fourth game of four days. You really this first time
all season you've done that, so like you have to learn.
You're you're learning about your bullpen. You're learning about your
pitchers as you go in this game for elimination game
against a team you're supposed to be all the pressure
on the world's on you. There's no pressure on the
guys in the other jersey. So I kind of understand,
from like a middle standpoint, you going with the pitcher
that has a little bit more experience, Like you would
think that he could step on the mound and and
have the better chance.
Speaker 6: I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been not being too bit. You could
make that argument.
Speaker 2: You could make that argument for sure.
Speaker 3: It was just him not starting a game and over
a year and your first start, and sometimes that happens
in regionals and super regionals. It's like, man, this guy's
pitch fifteen innings all year, had started a game. But
this was somebody that's been in a lot of big moments.
But they were all like in the seventh and eighth
and ninth inning, and so it was a decision.
Speaker 2: And again you could split hairs.
Speaker 3: I would have, you know, you know, assumed Kayatean Evans
would have gotten the start. Zach Cowan gets the ball,
and again you blinked and it was five to one,
and luckily you had.
Speaker 8: Look he come Maybe Jays like playing chess and we're
all playing checkers in our analysis of this. Maybe he
knows that Cason was going to come off the bench
and and be able to come off the bench better
than anybody else.
Speaker 2: Could I think this is quick.
Speaker 5: Too, straight strikeouts? Why he should Maybe he's a.
Speaker 4: Better reliever than he has a starter.
Speaker 9: You know, Cowen got credit for like all five runs
because they were on base when when Evans came in,
But it was it was three nothing. I mean it
was it was three to one at that point. He
had given up three runs and he pulled him. But look,
Jay knows more about baseball than all of us in
this room combined.
Speaker 6: There's no question about it.
Speaker 9: He I think this was trying to be the smartest
guy in the room, trying to change it up. Like
I get that he was a starter at Wafford. He
was a really good starter. I understand that.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't care.
Speaker 9: You started a guy in a must win game that
hasn't started all year period.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 9: And I think if if Jay's honest about it, you
went asked him, he would say, yep, don't it it
move by me.
Speaker 6: I screwed that up. I almost cost my team.
Speaker 4: The game that far.
Speaker 2: I don't know that he go that far.
Speaker 3: I think he would just say, for the reasons that
Matt just laid out, here's why I went with him
instead of the true freshman. And I had two pitchers
that I knew, these two guys are going to either
get us to the Supers or we're gonna go home
with these two guys, and he went with a guy
with a more experience. I'm saying, like, for me, I
would have started case In Evans just because he at
least has started those games.
Speaker 7: He started against Tennessee, like he's yeah, he started against
Tennessee like that was the biggest regular season series that
we had in the box. And to me, it's like
he's been getting touched up and we all knew this.
I Cason Evans went out there and threw eight straight strikeouts.
Speaker 5: I mean what they should.
Speaker 6: It was the graphic last weight.
Speaker 4: It was like.
Speaker 9: First like seven appearances he gave up reruns. His last
six appearances, he had given up eight runs, so like
you you could kind of see it. And that was
before the game even started. It was like, here's your
starting pitcher, here's the e r A, here's what he's
done recently.
Speaker 3: Did anybody get PTSD when Anthony Iroston's going in there
and he's warming up and gates.
Speaker 6: Jump, Yeah I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was giving me like war flash.
Speaker 6: But actually I didn't hate that.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't hear.
Speaker 3: As soon as soon as Cason Evans was doing what
he was doing, I said, oh, Anthony Irosen's closing this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's nobody else that.
Speaker 3: I'm trusting, right, now and Kate can't come in because
he pitched on Saturday. Anthony Ironson, Now, he went seven innings,
but it was with ease right and on Friday, so
he's gonna be available to come back in then as
soon as like two minutes later the TV cuts, he's
going to the bullpen.
Speaker 2: That was the only guy that could close that game.
Speaker 3: But it's just because Gates Jump and who didn't pitch
bad when he came in against North Carolina, but he
did get the loss last year.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh boy, was it you about one when
Jump came in last year?
Speaker 9: I think it was the exact same. I think it
was the exact same You had a one run lead.
Oh yeah, so I was actually about to stop y'all
throw some stats out from last year. But you know what,
it was amazing about sports. It's like, you're you could
be a great coach. He can be a great player.
But at the end of the day, it comes down
to good fortune, good preparation, things going your way a
little bit, and then just for a good coach preparing them.
Speaker 8: But then the players got to do that, got to
do what they do. So Jay makes this decision, and
you know, we all all agree that. You know, we
wouldn't have made the same decision. Okay, but guess what
he only asked to answer like one question at the
press conference and then never think about that decision again.
We talk about this for one segment and then we
move on because they won the game, instead of us
talking about it until next January.
Speaker 4: Right, that would have been brutal.
Speaker 5: This is gonna hurt for like a while.
Speaker 3: If we would have lost, we would have opened the
show playing Simon and Garfunkel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hello darkness, smile.
Speaker 7: Right, it would have been like, not just for us,
but like in the country, a really like huge upset.
Speaker 3: Would have been one of the biggest in the last
fifteen year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, to her point, like last year you lost to
North Carolina like rock, Yeah, this is little Rock. And
then me and you and Matt were talking about it
before the show, like two things are wild this weekend.
First nine SEC teams got eliminated in regionals.
Speaker 4: That is wild.
Speaker 9: Also, the teams that won Murray State won Wright State one.
I mean this was kind of the year, like if
this was when that happened to you at the box,
this was the year you kind of felt that the
second ending that's I.
Speaker 3: Was telling me the next over and off campus, we
had some people like that were chiming in, like you
know that maybe aren't the biggest college baseball fans are like, hey,
is this like a sixteen beating a one in basketball?
Speaker 2: Was like, no, it's not that.
Speaker 3: It's not that you had four do it on Friday.
How many sixteens have beaten ones one? Like when Virginia
went down, So that's happened once. Ever, this happened four
times on Friday, so it's not that's not the same.
And you had some baseball teams I mean, utsa, it's
being Texas now three times and knocked him out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's just what baseball.
Speaker 4: Is, crazy kryptonite.
Speaker 10: Yep.
Speaker 8: Well, if if it had gone different, what would just
move on to football?
Speaker 4: Seven too?
Speaker 3: We just like like two months, no, man, I mean
today would been like just.
Speaker 2: Post mortem, just letter rip letter.
Speaker 6: I mean we went out there believing who's coming back.
Speaker 8: That's here's my question. Let's start thinking about the head
coach for Little Rock. Where's he coaching next year?
Speaker 2: Oh he'll get a job. Oh yeah, there's no doubt
he'll get He'll get it.
Speaker 8: I mean he I mean his his interviews were great. Yeah,
he he came off really good.
Speaker 5: On Virginia on the coverage. Or did they get somebody after.
Speaker 2: No, No, don't.
Speaker 3: I think O'Connor obviously left and went to Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: I don't that's that's gonna be one of those jobs.
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't love a coaching case.
Speaker 3: It's not certainly like even though oh it's perfect, even
though UVA has won national championship, Like that's a place that,
over the last five years is not able to keep
up with the ones that want to keep up the
SEC schools, the other ACC schools that care more about
college baseball. Uh, your Oregon State, your Oregons. But it's
still a really good job. And so yeah, UVA is
going to get a good coach. I just don't know
if it's going to be like, You're not going to
steal somebody from the SEC. It's going to be somebody
that's either young and has earned the right to see
if he can step up to that or maybe a
lateral move.
Speaker 4: So little Rock coach.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 8: I'm a big fan of the guy. Take a little
scrappy bunch, look the tiger in the eye, m punch
the face few dumbs.
Speaker 3: That that happened as well, So look a ton to
get to obviously, like we've mentioned it already, like Ole
Miss lost to Murray State, we got we gotta make
sure that we highlight that for sure, Ben Mince, I
hope you're listening, you bum you.
Speaker 4: Love them the trash?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, T Bob probably letting him know just what
he thinks in Chicago, So don't worry, Ben Mins is
getting his. When we come back, though, let's break it
all down. What happened across the country. Ethan Fry somebody
we got to talk about, like he might deserve his
own segment today. We've got all that coming back your
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Speaker 2: She's singing the national anthem at an NBA All Star game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was bad, memorable, memorable.
Speaker 2: It's a great song though, absolutely.
Speaker 7: I just love when they were panning out all the
players and they were trying so hard not to laugh
while she was doing that.
Speaker 9: Actually has the funniest reaction to that. It's I think
he's the first one to crack.
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You sound like a combination of Fergie and Jesus.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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good one.
Speaker 2: That was a good one.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: We got to talk about kind of the offense for
LSU Baseball, what it was looking like it was going
to be and what it ended up being. We can't
say enough about Ethan Fry in what he did four
for four, four RBIs two walks, was all over the
base path yesterday last night. He has now become the guy.
And if y'all have somebody different, please tell me. I
don't trust any other player more than I trust him
when he's in the batter's box right now. And for
as much as we want to like wonder and speculate
maybe why Zach Cowan started the game on the mound
that decision, which again you can certainly find a case
and make a case for it, I get it. How
about the lineup changes, Jay needs a big outa boy
on that. Because he moves Ethan Fry to the two hole,
Stephn milem to the three hole, you move Bear Jones
back to the sixth hole and all of that worked.
If Ethan Fry is not in the two hole last night,
you do not win that baseball game.
Speaker 2: You don't win.
Speaker 3: You can't come in here, you can't call the show,
you can't hit me up on social media and give
me a path for LSU to win that game. Ethan
Fry is not hitting two behind Kurio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that dude.
Speaker 8: I mean, he just stepped up to the plate and
it just looked and felt different when he was in the.
Speaker 2: Bat at a large game.
Speaker 8: He's a large person. He just hits the hell out
of the ball. Y'all can speak more on the lineup
changes and the ins and outs and the details about it,
but what I noticed watching the game yesterday is from
one through nine, Lis shoes lineup to me in the
second half of the game made the biggest adjustment and
one thing that made the difference in the game, which
was adjusting to a tight, tight strike zone. They made
him throw it right over the middle.
Speaker 4: Because that.
Speaker 8: I couldn't believe how tight the strike zone was. I
was like, looked like a strike to me. Both teams
it was. It was both and I feel like I
saw that most of the games and sing, and I
was like, that's strike right, absolutely, I would say the
same thing. Even one of the pictures for Little Rock
told that as well, when he was getting pulled. Yeah,
he did a couple of a couple other words, he
said a couple of Little Rock didn't make as discipline
of an adjustment. To me, they were swinging at more
outside of the strikes, and there was only a couple
of the bats where for L.
Speaker 2: S U that I saw, Yeah, that I was like,
I don't swing at it, don't swing at it.
Speaker 3: But Little Rock was doing it more. Bear had some
of those before he did. But like I mean, I
loved it. Like the pictureld be up out how many.
Speaker 6: Like how many did.
Speaker 4: Like how many did did they the Little Rock throw?
How many times.
Speaker 5: We had or six?
Speaker 2: Eight? They had eight? L s U had five?
Speaker 8: Yeah, to me, that was just the difference in the game,
And I felt like most of those walks were coming
in the back half of the game.
Speaker 3: To your point, it's actually it's a good take that
LSU did have the better takes. They figured out the
zone quicker than Little Rock did. And once you figure
it out as a hitter, like some of these pitches,
you might if you know that the umpire is, you know,
expanded his zone, you're gonna say, well, I gotta protect. Yeah,
I mean that's that's at every level of baseball for sure,
every level. I mean eight U kid pitch baseball, right,
we tell the kids, like, as soon as he calls
that one that's in the other batter's box, Hey, he's
calling that, you gotta protect.
Speaker 4: It looked like to me that there was.
Speaker 8: There was a couple of times, many times probably that
batters for LSU were one hundred percent taking on two
and zho and sometimes yeah sometimes ono, right, they were
just one hundred percent taken make him throw it.
Speaker 3: Definitely three to one. There was a ton a lot,
so you can tell, okay, this was straight take.
Speaker 5: It was take and do not because there was who
was it?
Speaker 2: I think it was Braswell had one.
Speaker 5: That right down.
Speaker 2: The middle, I mean eighty five miles or three to one. Yeah,
he took it.
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, I think it was Braswell that I
was thinking over.
Speaker 3: Oh I knew, I know how you watch baseball. It
was Braswell, Yes, without question it was. But what about
Hernandez too?
Speaker 11: Bro?
Speaker 3: Two homers, I mean and the first one how quickly
he pulled.
Speaker 2: His hands inside of that baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And that was just like that was the
moment more than any you had in the game, like
you had like it you and you had to have
it in that moment because you're wondering, is LSU going
to tie this thing up?
Speaker 2: Because if they tie it up, they'll win it.
Speaker 3: But they got to tie it up right now, And
I thought there was no chance that baseball was staying
fair just because of how far inside he had to
bring his hands.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, there's just no chance. But he knew it.
Speaker 3: See, we didn't get that angle on the first TV
on the broadcast of him looking at the dugout and celebrating.
You know, it's trying to track the ball, so we
didn't know it. I thought for sure it was going foul.
But that was the moment like once you tied it up,
you were going to win it. And it sounds weird,
but it's like, are you going to be able to
tie it up at any point?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 9: And then you know they jump at seven five because
he had another home run and then bottom of the eight, dude,
like they they cut it seven six, and like l
you might be out of gas, like what happened to
Byans and doesn't have it? Then they get three more
in the ninth, you get a home run by Bear,
you get a home run by Fry. It's like, like
to your point, that one home run by by Louis
Hernandez like changed everything.
Speaker 7: I yes, because it's like, are you going to tie
it up? Because in the third we left the bases
loaded again, and.
Speaker 5: That was about to like that was right? Was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I like, oh my gosh, I about threw my remote
out the TV whenever I saw them leave the bases loat.
Speaker 2: I said some sweet nothings to my TV.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like again.
Speaker 7: And then Ethan Fry hits that double I think in
the fourth the next the next inning, and.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, we got something. We're working with something.
Speaker 11: And then I'm like, just you know what I was
thinking about when Ethan walks up with the basis loaded
of the fourth was the show yesterday where you said
if the bases are loaded, I don't even need you
to hit a home run.
Speaker 4: In the fourth inning with the basis he walked up
the bat. I was like, boll it hits you a
ding wrong.
Speaker 6: He's gonna love this right.
Speaker 3: It's perfect right in the gap. You knew it as
soon as it left the bat, and you knew who
was on the basis for you, it's like, yeah, curious.
Speaker 2: With that question.
Speaker 9: Stanfield's curios area got that like fry for how big
he is.
Speaker 2: Whe he was.
Speaker 5: Like that inside the park home run had like his.
Speaker 3: Like when you look at his perfect game profile, his
position is like catch your third left field right deep
on built different, I mean actually.
Speaker 9: Like literally build mostly like a player. I mean, you know,
pretty good duel threat QB A rose Pine.
Speaker 3: There was no doubt that you know somebody that looks
like that that lives in rose Pine, small town.
Speaker 2: He probably played whatever he.
Speaker 9: Wanted, but he was probably really good at basketball. I
bet he was like what I bet he was like
the three on the basketball.
Speaker 6: He's probably really good.
Speaker 7: There's can you imagine having to tackle or like try
to sack and fry?
Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, I've seen some large tumbans out there, but no,
not in uh probably like what's rose Pine?
Speaker 9: One A, one A two two At most, I don't
even know where rose Pine is?
Speaker 2: Did you just get country when you said that?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I never heard you speak with a
country accident.
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 5: I had roast pine. I don't know where, that's no doubt.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we are long for a break.
Speaker 3: We'll go ahead and take that, wouldn't we come back
Chris Phillips, Let's see if our guys awake, sec unfiltered
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back again, O TV one, O four five, ESPN,
Beton Rouge and now are gonna go to the phone lines.
Chris Phillips se c unfiltered joins us now to break
it all down. What happened on the Diamond over the weekend, Chris,
always a pleasure, sir.
Speaker 2: Hope you're doing.
Speaker 10: Well, Jacob going home, man, I'm doing well. Appreciate you
have me on. I'm looking at this as kind of
like my redemption visit with you on the show. So
after after last week I can confirm in case you
were wondering it is a lot easier to wake up
and show and go for a radio appearance after you're
not out in the town until about three thirty or
four in the morning. So we got listen. We're learning
as we go, making a dustments, kind of like the
LSU baseball team. So yeah, really good to be here, man,
appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Look, as I told you that day, that is not
a big deal at all. As long as I've been
doing a morning show, I know that happens. And the
fact that I know you were out on Broadway having
a good time, and that's the reason that makes it
all worth this, bet right.
Speaker 2: I mean if it had just been like a normal like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I went to bed at ten and I
thought I set my alarm, like okay, But at least
you got it in like that's all that matters. Like
you had a night one day probably are going to
remember for a little bit, and it makes it.
Speaker 10: All worth it, exactly. If anybody can understand, man, it's
it's you. So I really a brother. But yeah, last night,
I would say this, the only thing maybe more dramatic
than a night out on Broadway is this LSU team
at times. But glad to be talking about him going
to the Supers and what a weekend. Man, it was
a crazy, crazy weekend on the diamond across the league.
Speaker 3: I mean it certainly was. And we'll start with LSU
and you and I were talking. I'm like, man, and
you were gonna come on regardless, which we appreciate.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, it's gonna be a whole lot cooler.
Speaker 3: If Lshue pulls this off, if the ViBe's gonna be
completely different.
Speaker 2: And they do.
Speaker 3: And look, Chris, there was some coaching decisions and you
know this LSU roster that Jay had to make, and
he rolls Zach Cowen out there and not Case and
Evans to start the game. And Zach Cowen goes out
there and kind of what it's been as of late,
doesn't have his best stuff, gets touched up a little bit,
can't find the strike zone, and Jay Johnson quickly goes
to Cason Evans, who was as dominant as you'll see.
Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, I would have started Case and Evans. And
I'm not Jay Johnson. I'm not smarter than Jay Johnson.
I don't know this ball club better than he does,
but I'd have to thank moving forward, going into a
super regional weekend if they do get to a game three,
and certainly going into Omaha. I mean, I feel like
Cason's your third best arm. I don't think it's really
that much of a debate anymore. I mean, you know,
he has the length of a starter. You saw him
go one hundred pitches last night. So again, tin Tight's
twenty twenty and Cowen's also really really good, and you know,
I think he's obviously going to be a huge piece
from the other stretch. But yeah, the bottom line is this,
I mean, Cason Evans up with stuff a legend, you know,
in a moment like that and a situation like that
where you needed a guy to come in and hold
the line and give the offense in time to you know,
to get get it together and put something together. And
you know, you got to start with Ethan Frye offensively,
and he's just he's seeing a beach ball right now.
Really carried the offense to the first felt like what
six or seven innings, and then Luisa Nandez has the
two home runs and then Bear Jones, you know, Bear
finally wakes up from iber and that was his first
what extra base hits since May seventeenth to get to
South Carolina in the last regular season series. So I mean,
we all know they're gonna need him to get going.
But you know, I thought it was smart by Jay
to move him down in the lineup, I believe, the
sixth hole and you know, put him in a different
position and just kind of change some things up. But yeah,
all in on. I mean, listen, I felt good about
LSU going into last night. I mean, I never thought
they were gonna lose, but you know, I thought Old
Miss was gonna win too. And then you look across
what happened over the weekend and you see him down
five to one, and I was, I was a little nervous,
but really just a gritty, gussy performance by that team.
And yeah, listen, Jay Johnson knows what he's doing. But yeah,
I would imagine the next time they're in that situation,
With all due respect to the other guys and that
rotation and that bullpen, I gotta think case and Evans
is going to be your Game three guy. You just
you have to think so yeah, yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 8: Think so yeah, yeah, Chris, what's up? Man's Matt Flann here?
Uh second on the job. So it's great to get
connected with you man. So you're you're all things SEC man,
and so like that's what I really want to hit on.
So I've kind of been watching here in all year
how dominant SEC baseball is from from top to bottom. Really,
so how do you kind of how do you break
down how do you talk about you know, all week
really only four set SEC teams making it past regionals
to super Regionals, and not only not only only four
teams making it, but a lot of teams losing to
some teams, small.
Speaker 2: Teams Murray, Murray State utsa.
Speaker 8: Almost lsu with I mean, the the the emergence of
these little teams beating these big boy SEC teams that.
Speaker 4: Everybody was just that had came in with all the accolades.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, Matt, first thing I'll say you is it's
the pleasure chat with you. I remember you one of
the first quarterbacks I remember watching as a young SEC fan,
So really, uh really good at talk with you and
hear from you. But no, I mean listen yet, it
was it was a rough weekend for the league. I
don't think there's really any other way to put it.
And I want to keep that in perspective when I
say it, because I don't think it's as bad as
we may feel like it is. I was looking back
at last year, guys, when the SEC got four teams
in Omaha. You know, only five made the Super Regional Round.
I mean, this year is four, so like, we're not
that far off. Unfortunately, we're only guaranteed a max or
I say guarantee, we're only possible a maximum of three
SEC teams in Omaha because obviously Arkansas and Tennessee play
each other. So but I think when you look at
the way that it happened, the number one overall national
seed loses, They've become the first ever not even to
make it to their regional final. That being in Vandy.
You know Texas who won the league. Obviously they lose
the UTSA. You know Old Miss gets outed by four
seed Maurice State. You know you got Florida in Alabama
that both traveled to mid majors. Granted again they had
to go on the road, but you felt pretty good
about them. They both get outed as well, So you know,
I don't want to overreact, but I don't think it's
an overreaction to say that it was a bad weekend
for the conference, I think, really truly. I mean, you
get thirteen teams in the field, only four of those
teams advanced guys. You have eight hosts, Yeah, and only
only four hosts make it out alive. It's just there's
a lot of parody in the game of baseball. But
no doubt it was a it was a little bit
of a tough look this weekend for the SEC. And
I mean, listen, the four that made it, I think
are four of the best teams, and they were four
of the best teams in the conference all year. But
you know, certainly some of those top dogs that you expected.
And I didn't even mention Georgia who got walked off
Oklaoma State and lost in their home field too. So yeah,
it was a tough weekend across the board. But that's
one of the reasons we love baseball. It's just truly unpredictable.
Speaker 3: Chris, you had like the thing that always happens to
me anytime, like I'll have a take, I'll have this.
I'm like, they're not they're yet, they're not ready. They're
you know, not fraudulent, but close to fraudulent. And you
had that kind of with Vandy Baseball and then they
go and then win the SEC tournament.
Speaker 2: You had to do like the hall. Okay I was wrong.
Speaker 3: They actually you were right. You had it right the
whole time. They just kind of got hot in Hoover.
And I'll be honest with you, Chris, like we can't
look at Hoover as anything that we can use I
think as like this major like talking point, because like
I had so many old miss fans like in my dms,
like when they beat LSU and I'm just like, guys,
like you realize how LSU played that compared to how
you played it, But hey, I got to give you credit,
like you actually had Van d penned. It's just everybody
wanted to throw hate at you because they won the
SEC title in Hoover.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I just felt like Jacobaca, they won
that SEC tournament title and they were the number one
overall national seed, and you know, I I was pretty
pretty vocal about it earlier in the season. I didn't
say obviously fired Tim Korban, but I just kind of
felt like, hey, there's a certain style they want to play,
and it's an old school mentality, and it's just you know,
in today's game, it's just hard to win at an
elite level that way. And you know, kudos to them,
I mean the way they finished up and you know,
again to be the number one overall national seed, I
wanted to make sure. I mean, I'm a big believer. Listen,
you we all and I know you guys are too.
You listen, you make your predictions and you give your takes,
but more than happy to tip the cap when it's deserving.
And I mean they deserved it. But yeah, unfortunately, and
I was told by some bandy folks that hey, you know,
kudos to you for doing that, but let's wait and
make sure that that wasn't premature. And unfortunately, their their
work to night here for realizing it was premature. So
you know, it's yeah, there's some really there's some really
sour feelings today on the West end in Nashville as
a whole, because this is a Vanderbilt program that you know,
they they're kind of like an LSU. From the standpoint,
success is in judge off being a number one overall
national seed or winning the SEC tournament. It's about at
minimum making supers, going to Omaha's and competing for national
championships and that's the game of baseball. It's just like,
that's these top tier programs. That's what you judge your
season off of. So yeah, then you mentioned I mean
Jacob Igreuey Hoover is just its own thing. It's the
totally separate you know, there is no I don't know
that you can really like include it in the equation
of what you're gonna do or not doing the postseas
I mean, think about it. The two teams that were
in the championship in the SEC tournament, they both got
knocked out in their own reasional So what good did
it really do to play that deep into the tournament anyways,
So you know, there's just no perfect rhyme or reason
with it. And you know, again, I think when you
look at the teams that advance the supers like LSU,
Arkansas and Auburn, those were you could argue those were
the top three teams in the league. And then Tennessee,
you know, they were very inconsistent up and now, but
we know that they're capable of being one of those
top three or four teams in the league. From a
talent perspective, from a pedigree perspective head coach Tony Vytello. So,
you know, the teams that made it very well. I
think all four could win a national championship, but I
think it's like, is it the bigger storyline the teams
that didn't make it. That's what we're allalking about today.
Speaker 8: Chris, I'm gonna ask a question, and this I'm not
like I hadn't been the biggest baseball guy. Our listeners
know that. I'm letting you know that before I asked
this question because I don't know kind of the landscape
of the SEC coaching from top to bottom right now.
But in most sports, if you've got a lot of expectations,
you have a difficult and disappointed ending. There's some coach
of seats that start to get pretty hot. Do you
see any anything like that happening based on weekend results?
Speaker 10: No, you know, I'm trying to think across the landscape.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 10: I think the one that was going to happen already
did with Chris Lomonez. And I think they've made a
great hire over at Mississippi State with with Brian O'Connor.
Just from a pedigree perspective, a guy that's wont a
national championship, a guy that understand what it takes to
win the current landscape, and he's going to get all
the backing the needs. I think State's going to be
back up sooner rather than later. But no, outside of that,
I mean there's pressure on Mike Bianco, no doubt at
Old Miss, but I mean he's he's a legend. I
just I don't think you fire that guy after this
kind of season. I mean, it's it's so tough, right
because there are expectations and you hold your program to
a standard, but it's also baseball, and I just I
don't know that you can really fire a guy because
you got upset in a regional you know, I don't
think so, to be honest with you, I'm trying to
think the Lamis was the very obvious one going into
this season that you knew he was. He was on
the hot seat. I think everybody else, even with the losses,
like Bandy's not firing Corbyn, Jim Schlosnageles in his first
year at Texas, Wes Johnson just got an extension at Georgia.
He's not going anywhere now. I think, for the most part,
everybody else should be safe.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: There he is Chris Phillips SEC on the Filter Man.
Speaker 3: They do a great job covering not only SEC baseball,
but everything in the SEC. Look forward to having some
football conversations coming up very soon with Chris hey Man.
Speaker 2: We appreciate time. Look forward to our next one.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Jacob Man, you all the best.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it, thanks Chris.
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