Speaker 1: What up go and welcome to what It? I waits
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Speaker 1: spin more Rex.
Speaker 2: In a world.
Speaker 3: Where there's two heavyweights on your screen.
Speaker 1: Three best friends in the evolving doorm door.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently we don't have a sound guy for three
Speaker 3: weeks and just nobody knew about it. Thanks Nick, Like
Speaker 3: I said, only only half jokes. Uh, Nick will be
Speaker 3: back next week. Tigers obviously have a big road or
Speaker 3: a home stand ahead of them, trying to uh trying
Speaker 3: to sneak into the playoffs here, so.
Speaker 1: That's not either. Also, get a little a little war,
Speaker 1: Tigers get a little hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, playing some good ball man, playing some good ball
Speaker 3: story up yesterday?
Speaker 1: Did you hear what he said? What he said? He
Speaker 1: said it? Do you want to play it? That's that video?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah you got I could get it downloaded, Chris, I
Speaker 4: almost got it, Chris, don't work, no worry about.
Speaker 5: I literally haven't.
Speaker 6: I promise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's h a J. Hinch's postgame press conference really
Speaker 3: had me fired up last night.
Speaker 6: Me too.
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. So I try not
Speaker 1: to look back.
Speaker 3: That's not very fun times to look back.
Speaker 7: You didn't you know it doesn't send me in a
Speaker 7: great mental space to think about the worst times of
Speaker 7: more season.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of toughness in this group.
Speaker 8: We have.
Speaker 3: We do have some perseverance.
Speaker 7: We've stayed in the fight, whatever cliche you want me
Speaker 7: to use.
Speaker 3: Like like we're in it.
Speaker 7: And so our methodical way of going about our business
Speaker 7: is being rewarded because we didn't make too much of that.
Speaker 6: We didn't make too little of.
Speaker 7: That either, and once we got going, playing better baseball,
Speaker 7: better defense, throwing more strikes. For early accounts, we always
Speaker 7: started hitting the ball at the ballpark. But you can't
Speaker 7: snap your fingers.
Speaker 9: At this level and at the ball in the ballpark.
Speaker 7: I just think we're built for the marathon, and this
Speaker 7: has been a marathon, and we're not even close to
Speaker 7: the to the point where we can settle in because
Speaker 7: we've got plenty ahead. So I don't I try not
Speaker 7: to get to coaching on you, but I we just
Speaker 7: can't get past what's what's right in front of us
Speaker 7: and that man's sixteen hunder. We were worried about that
Speaker 7: Tampa series, you know, wherever we are now, we're worried
Speaker 7: about Game two tomorrow against the Boys. Were I'm proud
Speaker 7: of my team for like how strong minded we are
Speaker 7: to stay.
Speaker 6: In that in that length.
Speaker 3: They're not giving up, they're not trading school.
Speaker 1: For the last two years it's been this in this
Speaker 1: division specifically.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then with this team involved in each and
Speaker 4: every time, I'm both ends. Yeah, So I mean that's
Speaker 4: why I was never really willing to give up at
Speaker 4: any point.
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of crazy to me mid
Speaker 1: season Will.
Speaker 4: May really when people were calling out aj Hinge when
Speaker 4: the team was decimated with injuries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the beginning of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did have a couple with bonehead games where
Speaker 4: they just do it away, but that happens.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's baseball, and this especially in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, for a lot of.
Speaker 3: Teams, my favorite thing was people being like, we can't
Speaker 3: see these guys out there every day, like talking about
Speaker 3: the you know, the how you leaves and the outmans
Speaker 3: and the I mean, but like, what else were they
Speaker 3: supposed to do? They you can only bring up so
Speaker 3: many guy, they have so many injuries and they have
Speaker 3: to play these guys. Would you like to see double
Speaker 3: a guys out there?
Speaker 1: Like you think that's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be any better. Clad, Yeah, I liked. Those guys
Speaker 3: are not ready. So with all the injuries you had,
Speaker 3: they sustained it for a little bit and now they're
Speaker 3: starting to heal up a little bit. Now, yeah you
Speaker 3: got you know, obviously Labor's back, Hobby's making an appearance,
Speaker 3: Joe will be up here again soon. So I mean,
Speaker 3: don't let the Tigers get hot. Man, it's when you
Speaker 3: get if you if you get in the playoffs. I
Speaker 3: don't know if there's a team in the in the
Speaker 3: American League that I could be like, that would be
Speaker 3: the Tigers in a seven game series.
Speaker 1: Listen, if they're hot in that time of year, especially,
Speaker 1: they can go. Man, they got names. Dylan Dingle was
Speaker 1: a fucking dog. Riley Glean has cleaned it up.
Speaker 4: You got the rookie too, and Glabor always on base
Speaker 4: on top of it, like to help them score extra points.
Speaker 1: This is a team they get hot.
Speaker 10: Not only that, but also I don't trust the Als
Speaker 10: the rest of the Ale central to not suck ass.
Speaker 10: If I'm being completely honest, you're looking at the White Sox,
Speaker 10: the Twins, and the Guardians. One of those three teams
Speaker 10: is gonna.
Speaker 9: Go on the opposite of a run.
Speaker 10: They're gonna have a really tough stretch in my opinion,
Speaker 10: and I think that's gonna give the Tigers a perfect
Speaker 10: opportunity to jump up in that ALEC as well as
Speaker 10: the wild card standings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think they very well could.
Speaker 3: And you got three of the best bats in the
Speaker 3: American League and went healthy, probably the best pitching staff
Speaker 3: in the American League. So that's a pretty good combination
Speaker 3: to do some damage if you can get in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: They dug themselves a tough hole, and you know, injuries
Speaker 3: were a big part of that, but hopefully they can
Speaker 3: get out of it.
Speaker 10: Hovey, Joe be incoming. Both of them are are literally
Speaker 10: a few weeks. If that, yeah, away.
Speaker 3: It'd be very nice. We'll see, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: But I'm you know, I was in the camp keep Google.
Speaker 3: I think they should try to pay Schooble. And I mean,
Speaker 3: if you've got a chance of making the playoffs, man.
Speaker 4: Dude, I was just talking about the offense. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: got schoolbl from Bird. I mean, hit or miss Montero
Speaker 4: can put anywhere. Troy Melton, you're talking about job come back.
Speaker 4: I don't know how big of an impact. That's gonna
Speaker 4: be a big obviously. But I mean you got like
Speaker 4: some names in this team, and they get warm enough,
Speaker 4: hot enough, whatever word you want to use, it's they
Speaker 4: can go their dangerous.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 10: That job would immediately be like your best leverage closer.
Speaker 10: I mean, like you know, the swing and miss whatever,
Speaker 10: but like bro, he throws a one on one, Like,
Speaker 10: come on, we don't have that on this team. Right now,
Speaker 10: you have job as a closer. I know that didn't
Speaker 10: work too well in like the year or two ago
Speaker 10: when they tried that, but the experience now, Yeah, I
Speaker 10: was at his start Boston, the last game he played
Speaker 10: before he got hurt.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was fantastic. So yeah, I'm so hyped for job.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Tigers are. Tigers are coming back. Man, They're gonna make
Speaker 3: some noise.
Speaker 9: Tune in Tiger's post came tonight Me and Nick check.
Speaker 1: It out, shout out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know two years ago I became like an every
Speaker 4: day one. Maybe it just last year after we made
Speaker 4: initially Yeah, but uh, like this like the time of year,
Speaker 4: you gotta watch them like the station on the line.
Speaker 4: The season's coming to close. Every every game matters, every
Speaker 4: fucking game matters and they've been playing like it.
Speaker 1: So shot out to them, Shout to them.
Speaker 4: I wanted to find this thing and maybe you guys
Speaker 4: seen it yourself. I'm I'm gonna get screenshot at Chris
Speaker 4: at some point.
Speaker 1: But we talked about a briefly. Ryan Clark got fired
Speaker 1: from ESPN. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Nick Posa, who hasn't tweeted from his Twitter since twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, he quote tweeted the athletics article about Ryan
Speaker 4: Clark getting fired.
Speaker 6: Damn, I'm telling you don't click anything else. I know
Speaker 6: I'm not touching it.
Speaker 1: But he did. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, isn't that doesn't that mean like white
Speaker 3: power too?
Speaker 6: What I mean?
Speaker 3: I didn't know that either. I made my profile picture
Speaker 3: me doing the me too and they're like, oh white
Speaker 3: power Watch the fuck?
Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. That wasn't a thing that
Speaker 1: should be. Yes, I don't, I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Nick posts his stats when he's playing
Speaker 3: black quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Pretty telling.
Speaker 4: Man, It's so funny because like I've always like, let
Speaker 4: it slide because I'm like, it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: He plays with black players. You know, his teammates are black.
Speaker 9: And I think he leans into a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like I could read that for sure.
Speaker 10: I don't know like how much he really hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean that ship went viral like that, that one
Speaker 10: like he had one word on there and went viral.
Speaker 6: That sent Chris, if you're I'm grabbing it.
Speaker 9: Anybody has a good anti virus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look over there. That was after you we got
Speaker 3: a global attack on Chrome.
Speaker 1: Leave it alone?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, yeah, that was. That was something that
Speaker 6: I had already like committed to the Chris.
Speaker 1: You guys know what's going on?
Speaker 4: That video we played of a j Hinch when he
Speaker 4: got it from Instagram, clicking all kinds of different websites
Speaker 4: we've never used before in the company computer to download
Speaker 4: that video.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, let's just tell on it. Let's just tell
Speaker 6: on me. Let's do that. That's a good ide.
Speaker 3: We're laughing about the audience. Know what's going on? Best friends,
Speaker 3: best friends?
Speaker 1: Shut out door piece.
Speaker 6: I'll get you this Gray, I just got to get
Speaker 6: around these pop up.
Speaker 3: And from the dude the super chant, he says, Ryan
Speaker 3: Clark fucking sucks Mark's hogs. It's a big hog.
Speaker 6: Apparently it's a lot, it's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Can I tell Gorsto hasn't told this guy that this
Speaker 4: is like a running joke on the show You.
Speaker 3: Gotta Tell Me talk about his dick pretty much every day.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, wow, it's not we're up to me.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't mention it again, but.
Speaker 3: You know you're the You're the guy with a friend
Speaker 3: with a massive.
Speaker 6: Don God damn all right here it is.
Speaker 3: Oh man, we got it, Nick bosaid. I mean he
Speaker 3: doesn't help the allegations, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Who's g R M?
Speaker 3: George R. Martin?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 3: I'll read it for you, guys verbatim out your press. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can read it.
Speaker 1: Count your fucking days, you fat sloping bitch.
Speaker 3: George R. Martin is apparently writing a new book, and
Speaker 3: he is. He is writing another series to add to
Speaker 3: the Duncan Egg series. He's ad he's writing Duncan Egg
Speaker 3: four instead of writing The Wins of Winter, which has
Speaker 3: been on hiatus for like seven years now. And you
Speaker 3: know he had all of COVID to do something to it.
Speaker 3: He's given a sample chapters, tickling the balls a little bit.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, he's a fat bitch.
Speaker 1: I hate him.
Speaker 3: What I will piss on his grave when he dies.
Speaker 3: To your cre me, you can't rush the creative process
Speaker 3: I did. There is rushing and then there is you fat,
Speaker 3: sloppy bitch work on the right book. Because literally he
Speaker 3: has had seven years and he's not done. And he
Speaker 3: did an interview about it not too long ago, and
Speaker 3: they were like, you know, what would it take to
Speaker 3: get the Wins the Winter done? He's like, oh, I
Speaker 3: heard thirty six hours in the Day and five of
Speaker 3: me's and me reverting twenty years of age. And now
Speaker 3: he's writing another book.
Speaker 9: What's the Dunking Egg?
Speaker 3: Dunking Egg? It's sir dunk in the tall and egg Gun.
Speaker 3: It's a good series, but like, come on, eyes on
Speaker 3: the prize. He fucking turd. I hate George R. Martin.
Speaker 9: Who's the better writer? Uh Martin or l Ron Hubbard?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I know is my guy Brandon Sanderson?
Speaker 3: Fucking he humps out books like nobody's business. So when
Speaker 3: that turd dies, he's going to save the series. So
Speaker 3: hold on to that. We're just waiting for him to
Speaker 3: bite the bucket because then Sanderson could swoop in and
Speaker 3: he could finish the series.
Speaker 1: There you go, Maybe it's what his atentions was. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I just want him to finish it because like it's
Speaker 3: his s demo over there. He the only one know
Speaker 3: what ever.
Speaker 4: Achilles heel in Homer's initial writing official home it came
Speaker 4: like after he died and someone like.
Speaker 1: Picked it up.
Speaker 4: His achilles heel is achilles hee him getting dipped into
Speaker 4: the river. I should say, I wanted the saying you
Speaker 4: sent Chris. This is this is what should we say
Speaker 4: for a whole segment?
Speaker 1: What the thing you just said? Slag something?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it as a graphic. We
Speaker 6: can do it. We can do it now if we want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was doing people coming in anyway, right, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to have some some guests here bringing tacos
Speaker 4: in anytime.
Speaker 1: Now. I'm blessed. We're blessed with this job. Shout out
Speaker 1: the Joey.
Speaker 3: Name, Shout out to Joey and start. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: uh Chef Frankie and I got Scott. We had Scott
Speaker 3: on uh the Burger bat for the Burger Battle because
Speaker 3: Frankie's kitchen is going to be taking part in the
Speaker 3: Taco showdown. Which is this I mean it's basically the
Speaker 3: same thing we did with the burgers, but with tacos.
Speaker 4: I love it from where I'm from, to represent the
Speaker 4: state of Michigan. You know, like hype up a good
Speaker 4: burger battle, and burgers are great.
Speaker 6: They really are, yes they are.
Speaker 1: But a taco competition, son, what the fuck? Come on,
Speaker 1: It's just that's something I know.
Speaker 6: I can eat fifty up.
Speaker 4: We couldn't really eat our weight through the entirety of
Speaker 4: the burger battle, to be honest, you can kind of
Speaker 4: have to get taco battle.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I think I've had dreams like that.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this.
Speaker 3: I'm excited. You can do. You can do a lot
Speaker 3: more with tacos. Yeah, I already know whoever's making fish
Speaker 3: tacos is gonna get my number one vote.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fish tacos.
Speaker 1: I'm out, dude, flag on the play. You don't like
Speaker 1: fish tacos, that's all right, that's ghosts. Wow, I think
Speaker 1: have you ever.
Speaker 3: Been to California when you've been to Hawaii? I don't
Speaker 3: like fish, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Your guys is is tacos? Well? This guy Michael Parsons,
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, heat guy confirmed feet guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to think.
Speaker 4: I saw this last night, and it's too soon for
Speaker 4: me to be super active in Lions public right now,
Speaker 4: but this is the way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Man, how can I get the people back?
Speaker 1: You know? How could I.
Speaker 3: Rally the tards?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna back of my side.
Speaker 3: I wanted to quote grade.
Speaker 1: That's good because shove his foot. Is that there? You
Speaker 1: think like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, get him going, yeah yeah, rile them up. But
Speaker 4: I was like, because it got got by Michael last year, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you might have the other targ so I'm gonna easily
Speaker 4: hit that. Hit me with that and fucking next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, Rao Ratio. The Alliance fans are tagging in
Speaker 4: with the Green Bay fans.
Speaker 3: Fucking yeah, we don't like this guy.
Speaker 4: This guy walkwart sport sports sports.
Speaker 3: He drove away running back that was already off our team.
Speaker 3: Yeah what trek school. We'll get him out of here.
Speaker 3: We don't want him. He cheated the team. Don't get
Speaker 3: me going, man, Yeah, go Gordo.
Speaker 10: I'm not happy with everybody. Uh listen, you can call
Speaker 10: me a schoopl slappy, but like you, guys are off
Speaker 10: almost twenty million dollars.
Speaker 9: What the fuck do you expect this guy to do?
Speaker 10: And in the contract negotiations, like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 10: just people not having any comprehension of like what the fuck.
Speaker 3: School knew he was injured and intentionally made the Tigers worse. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but don't say forced. Yeah, I mean all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how it works.
Speaker 6: I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that pissed me off a little bit as well.
Speaker 5: Annoying.
Speaker 3: No wait no, all back schoopbl all back schoopl. I'm
Speaker 3: going to back schoolbl that ship.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that grifting at its finest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, some people need people to
Speaker 3: make content.
Speaker 1: Brother, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 6: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: Ah, I'm not. Fuck, that's getting weird. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even know that. Michael Parsons likes feet. Mark Parsons does
Speaker 1: like feet. Michael Parsons likes feet.
Speaker 9: Interesting spot, bro, that's.
Speaker 1: If you're coming back from acrotherly should be worried about
Speaker 1: your nee.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I just because I like
Speaker 4: that's I mean, honestly, if pays well, there's a rep
Speaker 4: this season, Michael Park's not the same because his game
Speaker 4: is kind of relying on that fucking knee a little bit.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, he's doing a lot twitching and turn, you know,
Speaker 4: get to the quarterback and make some crazy moves like that.
Speaker 4: Let him not be fully healthy and penny fucking pancakes
Speaker 4: his ass. I'm really gonna tweet that out like a
Speaker 4: good thing's gonna shove his foot up your ass, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, you don't do that, so
Speaker 4: w'd you come back?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 1: But he's probably used to be great. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I talked about being having a foot fetish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean he's just he's weird.
Speaker 1: He's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: Is kind of a weird guy, weird.
Speaker 9: I always love that video though, when he was at
Speaker 9: the Pro Bowl and he was in his little.
Speaker 10: Scooter, remember that, Yeah, filming the cheerleaders down right before
Speaker 10: the mail Chi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, caught in four K for sure.
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 1: Can you find that?
Speaker 6: I can try to find that.
Speaker 10: I also love the one where he like went on
Speaker 10: the field and try to get like a pass deflection
Speaker 10: or something in the scooter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude.
Speaker 3: The Pro Bowl the first year they did the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 3: like the flag football version of it. It pissed me
Speaker 3: off because like Jamir Gibbs is about to have a
Speaker 3: pick six? Did and then like the entire other team
Speaker 3: ran on the field. Yeah, they ran off the sidelines
Speaker 3: and started chasing. I was like, dude, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: He was carving everybody else and then literally the entire
Speaker 3: ANFC left of it. It is, but I wanted to
Speaker 3: see my guy get a pick six.
Speaker 1: He was he did. It counts. It's flag too.
Speaker 4: They had some type of flag competition go on today.
Speaker 4: They kept saying, like, I got the NFL notifications, Bro,
Speaker 4: they sent like twelve like high.
Speaker 1: I'm not clicking on that. Stop sending that ship. Mary
Speaker 1: Sheffield scored a time. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: Oh the flag football, Yeah, don't send me notification for that.
Speaker 3: Look at this behind the back pass?
Speaker 1: Come on, don't there?
Speaker 3: Like honestly, flag football sucks. It sucks to play, it
Speaker 3: sucks to watch it. I don't like playing it. It's
Speaker 3: it's stupid. The best part about football is hitting people,
Speaker 3: and you can't. In fact, you can't even block people.
Speaker 3: Fat guy's got no place blocking.
Speaker 1: Full contact of the line.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I fucked up my knee real good and one that'll
Speaker 1: do it. And I was like, I'm retired.
Speaker 3: I don't get back. I pay to play this, dude.
Speaker 3: We should. We should at some point go to like, uh,
Speaker 3: you thirty seven practice or something, or a game. Get
Speaker 3: some content at you thirty seven game.
Speaker 1: That sounds fun.
Speaker 6: It's fun at.
Speaker 3: Braylan play on one of the teams that just goings.
Speaker 1: Funny fucking Brailen play, but that sounds funny. Want to
Speaker 1: if if he does, that may be fucking sick. It
Speaker 1: would be insicke.
Speaker 4: You gotta think though, motherfuckers. I mean, they're playing you
Speaker 4: thirty seven already. Yeah, to prove some ship.
Speaker 1: Brailan out there going after his Yeah, we could jump
Speaker 1: somebody jump some old man that goes after.
Speaker 6: He's just probably some dog as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be like a cousin or still
Speaker 3: very athletic to play you thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Respect, no respect, respect, You gotta respect your love of
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: You're push Yeah, you're putting your your livelihood on the light,
Speaker 3: your life on the line.
Speaker 1: For they love the game.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't got a family, sure for sure,
Speaker 3: but if you got like a family to feed, you're out.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: What happens if you're a construction worker playing you thirty
Speaker 3: seven football, you got two kids, and you break your
Speaker 3: leg playing fucking football, you're out of work for four months.
Speaker 1: Sure he has a game play.
Speaker 3: Probably not, that's probably playing football. I mean that ship
Speaker 3: is funny, but like, man, they I feel like the
Speaker 3: priorities aren't there.
Speaker 9: Speaking of funny, I think we got that video?
Speaker 3: Can we play it?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 6: I muted it?
Speaker 1: Is it a broadcast?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not a broadcast. It's just like somebody taking.
Speaker 6: It says well, it says a perfect time. In the
Speaker 6: bottom it says overtime, We're good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, shot over time? Yeah all right. So this is
Speaker 3: the Michael Parson's video going by with the camera and.
Speaker 4: I love when something like nineties shit happened. Yeah the
Speaker 4: slide because oh with the athletes, they do this all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 1: Man, they really do. Michael parks with that. But what
Speaker 1: do you have? Edwards say, drop.
Speaker 3: Dropped the hard Yeah, dropped the heart and a red light.
Speaker 3: I'm like snapchat yeah? Uh? Add them from the d
Speaker 3: says hold your tongue and say flag. I will not
Speaker 3: be doing that.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: They scare me, especially we're in royal oak.
Speaker 1: We're out numbered.
Speaker 3: Now they can break through the windows like Seal Team
Speaker 3: dis World.
Speaker 9: War Z type ship crawling up the window.
Speaker 6: Oh, I had something to say and I could have
Speaker 6: saved it, but I totally forgot what it was.
Speaker 3: Super chat, Really, mister big says Big seven or retired
Speaker 3: NFL player or Big seven four retired NFL player, Oh
Speaker 3: like seven on seven league, like the Big Three.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But what's going on is what's with
Speaker 1: the stuff? Because we've got John mcaron at five thirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but we're gonna have John macarone
Speaker 3: on at five thirty.
Speaker 1: Okay for sure what we're doing it?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, John macrune five. If you guys don't know
Speaker 4: what happened John macrooon last night, he got it. He got silent,
Speaker 4: He got a credential stripped after appearing on the Crunch Time.
Speaker 3: After appearing on Crunch Time.
Speaker 1: Say be careful, care what those Crunch Time boys, they'll
Speaker 1: get you. He did something on that show.
Speaker 3: It was I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him today. You know what he thought?
Speaker 6: It was?
Speaker 4: Specifically, is a list of things, you guys know, the
Speaker 4: doc's kind of always been.
Speaker 3: Honestly think it was a specific part of his Crunch
Speaker 3: Time interview.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it could have been too I think
Speaker 4: it could have been too dis is crazy, Salety Dicks
Speaker 4: was nuts.
Speaker 6: That was That was a bar. Yeah, that was a bar.
Speaker 6: That was a bar.
Speaker 1: Pull up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys already know the docks already unfiltered already.
Speaker 4: I'm saying kind of you know what I'm saying, much
Speaker 4: you can be as a line of credential beat, it's
Speaker 4: no longer the I want to convert that and I
Speaker 4: want to see a piste off doc. I want to
Speaker 4: hear what's going on I'm saying, and like all the
Speaker 4: ship that like you know, he can say nice free, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna I'm gonna use that as if I ever have
Speaker 3: to do stand up. That's gonna be my first line
Speaker 3: talking about being in Royal Oak and being on air
Speaker 3: saying some things and.
Speaker 1: Come to the window I got right next door for
Speaker 1: fucking yeah. Yeah, try out.
Speaker 6: Yeah you should.
Speaker 4: That should be a punishment we do seventh, that should
Speaker 4: be the next That should be the next pick up.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Chris, haven't you done that? Actually?
Speaker 6: What stand up? Yeah?
Speaker 11: I did?
Speaker 6: I I kind of did it like I had to
Speaker 6: pres I had to do my podcast live one time.
Speaker 6: This was twenty twenty, and so I just basically approached
Speaker 6: it like a stand up set and I did like,
Speaker 6: it's like just like a stand up set of uh
Speaker 6: Kobe or well fastball and then and then basketball that.
Speaker 1: Hip hop crazy.
Speaker 6: Well, No, it was because it was at the time.
Speaker 6: It was a month after he passed.
Speaker 1: Damn man, what.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 6: It was the news. It was the news anchor that
Speaker 6: fucked up. Remember when she said that he used to
Speaker 6: play for it and he didn't play for the Knicks,
Speaker 6: And she said the old nick.
Speaker 3: You dropped the hard R and you were talking about Kobe.
Speaker 6: I did not.
Speaker 1: That was going crisy. Yeah, yeah, he died.
Speaker 3: I was talking about Kobe like recently, no, right after
Speaker 3: he died. And the specific reason when that was somebody
Speaker 3: dropped the hard R.
Speaker 6: That was the joke of the set. And I said,
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 9: I think I remember the video he's talking about.
Speaker 1: I remember. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like some news.
Speaker 3: She was, yeah, she's on she said the New York Yeah,
Speaker 3: blanket boxers. Yeah, not not the right version for the No,
Speaker 3: that was she said.
Speaker 1: Denver, the Denvers, I think she.
Speaker 3: I think she dropped like a soft egg at the
Speaker 3: end of it, got like the Denver.
Speaker 1: You saw this video some guys going through Pokemon. It's
Speaker 1: like Pokemon. Let's say the N word. That's funny.
Speaker 6: All right? Oh yeah, I did see that too. Actually,
Speaker 6: want to go break.
Speaker 1: By Timmy come back. We'll be ready for document.
Speaker 3: Oh shut out coming through right now. I think we
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Speaker 1: Shut out?
Speaker 3: So we gotta go to break because I gotta figure out
Speaker 3: some of the doctor we do. Gotta go to break, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because we got doc coming on? Is he on? No?
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Speaker 4: Uh Spinney worring on some good stuff coming shout to
Speaker 4: uh shout to Taco battle coming out Sunday. But today
Speaker 4: a jalen Dura. There's report from Yahoo. I believe it
Speaker 4: was Chris.
Speaker 1: Yes, what was the report of contract? Jaalen Dura?
Speaker 6: Once he wants.
Speaker 3: Should we waste this now? Isn't doc coming on like
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 1: No? I pushed Doc back because these guys.
Speaker 6: Are going okay, Uh, five year to eighty seven max
Speaker 6: contract is what he still wants. He is twenty two
Speaker 6: years old and a critical piece of the Pistons team
Speaker 6: that shocked the world in route to sixty wins and
Speaker 6: finished third All team NBA. Basically just mouth like.
Speaker 3: You want sixty million dollars a year. I would love
Speaker 3: I would love for Jalen Duran to get into a
Speaker 3: room with somebody and actually pitched that an NBA team
Speaker 3: should pay him sixty million dollars a year, because there
Speaker 3: is no nobody that would buy that. Nobody was willing
Speaker 3: to give you forty. You were literally looking around, going
Speaker 3: from team to team, going from door to door, saying
Speaker 3: you desperately want to play for the Sacramento Kings, saying
Speaker 3: you know, you would love to play for the Boston Celtics,
Speaker 3: which if you got to pick two fan bases to
Speaker 3: cape for, like Sacramento.
Speaker 1: In Boston, yuck uh.
Speaker 3: And they didn't want to pay you that much. Nobody
Speaker 3: wants to pay you that much. Nobody's going to pay
Speaker 3: you that much. Even if you went out in the
Speaker 3: playoffs and you were dominant and you were putting up
Speaker 3: twenty and ten and you were you were being a
Speaker 3: you know, a the player you were in the regular season,
Speaker 3: you were not going to get a sixty million dollars
Speaker 3: a year contract. That's just insane.
Speaker 4: He wants to be paid more than Kate Cunning, more
Speaker 4: than Kid Cunning him. Like you guys want like just
Speaker 4: to put it plainly how crazy and this is even
Speaker 4: like I want to come on and I want a
Speaker 4: bass challenger, Like this should not have gotten to this point.
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: You can't negotiate with someone who is not dealing in reality.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like trying to talk.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm trying to be funny, but go
Speaker 4: on the street and have like a try to convincing
Speaker 4: a crazy person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this schizophrenia, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like we thought I was the crazy one,
Speaker 4: you know, like this is this is fucking nuts, and
Speaker 4: I I don't want to bash you, I gotta say
Speaker 4: that this has gotta be I know, dude, don him too.
Speaker 1: Man, it's an agent. This is how you know you
Speaker 1: have the worst fucking agent out there. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: ridiculous for it to get to this point.
Speaker 4: You're requesting more money than k Cunny him and you
Speaker 4: made third team All NBA for the first time in
Speaker 4: the contract year. There's a playoffs after that that mattered,
Speaker 4: and you fucking disappeared. Yeah, you had every reason to
Speaker 4: show up for that and you did not. Between the
Speaker 4: next girlfriend ship the money on the line, wanting to
Speaker 4: win the fucking game, I mean, it's ridiculous stuff.
Speaker 1: You're not worth that amount of money. No, don't.
Speaker 4: Whoever's talking, you're telling you that. Get that's like maybe
Speaker 4: the last CBA, sure everyone was getting paid. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Get Tristan Thompson was getting paid. It's just the grab
Speaker 4: offensive boards and the playoffs. Like it's just I wish,
Speaker 4: I wish Durream would have done that. Times have changed,
Speaker 4: and you don't hold the resume your only twent at
Speaker 4: twenty six years old. When you prove that you're worth that,
Speaker 4: you'll get that because you'll be eligible for the big
Speaker 4: big contract, the super Max.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, right, you will be eligible for, presumably if
Speaker 6: he grows and develops a you know, a higher version
Speaker 6: of the super Max. It's I believe it's called the
Speaker 6: Veterans Supermax. But at this point, here's where I'm at
Speaker 6: with it. If they really want to play harshball, if
Speaker 6: they really want to play hardball with Jayla during all right,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go extend to Sara Thompson. I'm gonna go
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go pay him.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 6: Look now you got even less. Now you gotta even
Speaker 6: less with h Here's the exact number you're going to
Speaker 6: get That's it, Like we we locked up our core.
Speaker 6: Do you want to be here or not? Because at
Speaker 6: this point, you're operating like you're not a part of
Speaker 6: the core. You're operating like you like you you're trying
Speaker 6: to hold this organization hostage. You're not You're not a
Speaker 6: core player. You're a terrorist kidding.
Speaker 4: He is is man, You're fucking terrorists on this team.
Speaker 3: In playoffs, al Jada Pinochet's helly pilot with the super
Speaker 3: Chet says fifty seven million won't matter on judgment day.
Speaker 3: It's like, you gotta fire your agent, yes, Jalen, like
Speaker 3: you have to. There's a reason the guy only has
Speaker 3: four clients and you're one of them, and you're not
Speaker 3: getting paid Like it's you had at literally every single
Speaker 3: team in the NBA, every single one of them look
Speaker 3: at you and your agent and say you're not worth
Speaker 3: forty million dollars. And he says, all right, we're doubling down.
Speaker 3: I want sixty million. What what? And I wish revolving
Speaker 3: door was in here, But he's getting our guest hooked up.
Speaker 3: He had a good point, like the only thing that
Speaker 3: this could somewhat make sense is if this is the
Speaker 3: last you hear from Jalen Durrance to camp if it's
Speaker 3: just one last hail Mary, Yeah, one one. You know
Speaker 3: I want sixty million, that's what it is, sure, And
Speaker 3: that's just an awful strategy.
Speaker 1: Again he's not doing in reality.
Speaker 3: Like if you would have been reasonable with the Pistons,
Speaker 3: if you would have been in their ballpark, if you
Speaker 3: would have negotiated properly, you probably could have gotten closer
Speaker 3: to forty million than the thirty five million. But now,
Speaker 3: if I'm the Pistons, I'm not offering you a dime
Speaker 3: over thirty thirty thirty three million dollars?
Speaker 6: Do you think That's what I want to ask? Do
Speaker 6: you guys think that any of these tactics are actually
Speaker 6: costing him money? Like Trajan's lowering his offer. Do you
Speaker 6: think Trajan is just here's the number. That's that's what
Speaker 6: it is. Either sign it or take the QO. What
Speaker 6: do you think?
Speaker 3: I think that's what That's what it should be. Now
Speaker 3: if I was Trajan Langdon, that's what I would do. Okay,
Speaker 3: you say you want sixty million, here's what we will
Speaker 3: pay you. If you don't want that, sign the qualifying
Speaker 3: offer and check out free agency next year. I'm done
Speaker 3: with this. That's what I'm doing. You want to play hardball,
Speaker 3: here's hardball.
Speaker 6: But is that number lower? Do you think that number
Speaker 6: has thirty three million?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 1: Not a cent more?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, how desperate you.
Speaker 3: Anymore?
Speaker 4: You've gotten nothing on this publicity. That's that's all he's
Speaker 4: successfully done. That's all his agent has done is embarrassed
Speaker 4: Jayleen Drt Yeah, like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'd go down here.
Speaker 3: Scott boris no fucking chance, buddy.
Speaker 1: Up there trying Ryan like doctor Sue's who get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: Dude, Bro's ditch Paul. He's gonna be ditch Paul in
Speaker 3: for context.
Speaker 1: Uh k, Cunny.
Speaker 4: In this season, we make it fifty million dollars, Jayalen
Speaker 4: Durn wants to make fifty seven annual average salary.
Speaker 1: Just get the fuck? I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's coming to close.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something negotiating plays, but you're wasting
Speaker 1: everybody's time.
Speaker 3: Wasting everybody's time. Nobody on God's Green Earth is gonna
Speaker 3: pay you that much money.
Speaker 6: Signed the contract, and honestly, at this point I found
Speaker 6: the pisses again I'm forcing. I'm forcing my leverage here
Speaker 6: and I'm just extending to Sara Thompson being like, all right,
Speaker 6: if you want to be here, Look, we got that
Speaker 6: locked up, We got this locked up. This is the money.
Speaker 6: So now I can't because the word is that they
Speaker 6: want to get this done so that once During is signed,
Speaker 6: then they can resign Asar or extend a SAR. That's
Speaker 6: the word right now, the way During and his agent
Speaker 6: and his camp are operating. I'm just gonna go talk
Speaker 6: to Usar get that done, like fuck it, fuck it,
Speaker 6: it is what it is at this point right.
Speaker 4: Another thing I think about too, Actually I'm not even
Speaker 4: this is me being a radio host, so don't take
Speaker 4: this serious, but like this is effect a little bit
Speaker 4: of team chemistry absolutely, Like or do you understand, as teammate,
Speaker 4: get your money?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anybody will hold it past
Speaker 3: him to ask for that money, but to drag out
Speaker 3: the process so long while you're seeing super teams get
Speaker 3: put together in Philadelphia and yeah it's you threaten. You're
Speaker 3: saying you'd love to play in Sacramento. I'm sure that
Speaker 3: doesn't sit right with Kate Cunningham, who just made you
Speaker 3: a third team All NBA guy, Like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it's it's just like you said, it best easy, Like,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen any he have so much self inflicted
Speaker 3: bad pr without a legal battle. Yeah, it's crazy. He's
Speaker 3: just doing this to himself. But I mean, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you're betting on yourself.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's like he's into that. He's into like the
Speaker 4: kink shaman. That's why he played bad in the playoffs against.
Speaker 1: His ex's way for the humiliation fetish. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: humiliation fetish. I mean that's what it started to feel
Speaker 1: like at this point.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be something.
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn man, it's not a contract clown to you.
Speaker 6: We all want to you laughing.
Speaker 9: For you can do something.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 3: You need Jalen Duran on this team. Asking for more
Speaker 3: money than Kate Cunningham is just absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 6: It's laughable.
Speaker 3: It is laughable.
Speaker 4: It's a fucking joke, man. His management is a fucking joke.
Speaker 4: I don't even got more.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. I mean, you think it's coming
Speaker 1: to close at this point. Maybe that, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 6: I think Gordo made a good point. I think this
Speaker 6: does feel like a last thing outdoor to you first evolving.
Speaker 6: But no, he he made a good point about that.
Speaker 6: I think that this is a last ditch effort because
Speaker 6: we talked about weeks ago about how this is just over,
Speaker 6: like the five to eighty seven is just totally out
Speaker 6: the door. So it just throw that again. It felt like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you clached your eyes of you through some shit at
Speaker 6: the wall again. Extend at this point.
Speaker 4: Pick a day in a number for Jaylender. When's it
Speaker 4: happened at what? Oh damn, I'm not good at math.
Speaker 4: On the spot, I'm gonna say an annual value of
Speaker 4: average annual value of thirty five.
Speaker 6: It'll start at like thirty two or whatever. I think
Speaker 6: he'll get that, and I think it will be done
Speaker 6: in whatever ten days is from now. I think ten
Speaker 6: days from now. Shout out Michael mctriski.
Speaker 3: He's right because those you see those pictures from Angelies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, waterface for sure, but god name she looks
Speaker 4: like said the sack at one you won't see her
Speaker 4: face at all.
Speaker 3: It was great, it was It's crazy, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 4: Uh, it ain't your beauty, it's your beauty. To the
Speaker 4: Jaalen during stuff number for me with thirty seven on August.
Speaker 1: Tenth, thirty seventhday, day in the number, day in a
Speaker 1: number for Jaalen during Okay.
Speaker 11: Six six six.
Speaker 3: Thirty rap rap thirty three and a half, and it's on.
Speaker 4: The twelfth, twelve, eighteen twenty six Jalen during Doomsdays again
Speaker 4: August twelve.
Speaker 6: Honestly, Spencer, I'm with that because normally pisses to his
Speaker 6: breaks on the day I'm not there.
Speaker 1: That would be a day I'm not Yeah, whatever day
Speaker 1: Chris is gone, we're gonna get it. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna make sense.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jalen dur it only takes thirty three visit call
Speaker 3: off one day.
Speaker 1: Brother, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9: August fifteen.
Speaker 3: We can't. We can't have Chris can't call off. We
Speaker 3: don't have enough people on the show.
Speaker 6: We don't have enough doc.
Speaker 1: I'll make sure someone's here. We don't have enough door.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're gonna have to double door back there.
Speaker 6: Still here, still selling fake doors.
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Speaker 4: We just have some I don't know what's going on,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, Yeah, neither. We have some
Speaker 4: guests lined up at different time slots now, so we've
Speaker 4: got some live on air stuff going on. Let's go
Speaker 4: to break, come back and we'll talk to John who
Speaker 4: have to wait.
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Speaker 14: How you feeling I feel good guys, anything interesting to
Speaker 14: talk about? And that happened the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 14: It's all good fellas. Where's my guy, Spenny, where's my
Speaker 14: big fella that we used to hang out and go
Speaker 14: to Michigan State and tag team and have some fun
Speaker 14: with where's my guy at?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm still here. Damn you guys are running them without me?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Sorry, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Doc?
Speaker 4: It's good to see it, Doc, man. I really appreciate
Speaker 4: you the time to come on today. I know some Uh,
Speaker 4: I mean that's the best big news man. The Lions
Speaker 4: took the doc off the beat. What's why?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 14: No, it's a good question, and it really starts with Look,
Speaker 14: it doesn't impact my current employment in regards to the
Speaker 14: partnership I have with on Sports Illustrated, their supportive partner. Look,
Speaker 14: it just really starts back. It just I'm trying to
Speaker 14: be succnct with it. Back in twenty thirteen, I started
Speaker 14: a podcast and a Twitter page with the idea, what
Speaker 14: if somebody just shared their thoughts all the time, really unfiltered,
Speaker 14: just shared it, and we built a podcast on Sports
Speaker 14: Illustrated called Me. In twenty nineteen, they wanted to partner
Speaker 14: with me and provide me a media opportunity to cover
Speaker 14: the Lions. And I told on Sports Illustrated I'm not
Speaker 14: a trained journalist. I'm a guy with a big, bold
Speaker 14: opinion and I work hard. And they said, we'll work
Speaker 14: with you, and we'll partner and we'll do the we'll
Speaker 14: grow something big together. And that's what we've done over
Speaker 14: the last seven eight years. First of all, I want
Speaker 14: to thank the Lions pr for giving me the credential.
Speaker 14: They never had to and they opened up a big,
Speaker 14: huge problem because I'm a loud mouth and they can't
Speaker 14: control me. I owned the Detroit Sports podcast. It's successful,
Speaker 14: it always has been and always will be. And on
Speaker 14: Sports Illustrated gave me full control to write about the
Speaker 14: Detroit Lions. So I write the headlines, I give the
Speaker 14: topics to the three journalists. I'm the head man in charge,
Speaker 14: so all the top all the controversial issues that the
Speaker 14: Lions may not have liked over the years. I wish
Speaker 14: the only regret I had is I wish they just
Speaker 14: would have told me where I stood. After the early
Speaker 14: rocky period in twenty nineteen. I never once heard from
Speaker 14: the Lions that they had a complaint. Now, the crazy
Speaker 14: part is they kept a secret file on me all
Speaker 14: the things I tweeted said. And I think the issue
Speaker 14: is not the things I wrote or really the headlines
Speaker 14: that I created. The issue for the Lions is I'm
Speaker 14: loud on social media. I have a podcast where I'm
Speaker 14: loud and it's growing, and I just my thesis was
Speaker 14: and unfortunately for me, it just turned out that that
Speaker 14: way of doing business resulted in a lucrative opportunity to
Speaker 14: grow followers and to engage in the sports community and
Speaker 14: to be part of the digital landscape. I am not
Speaker 14: a traditional journalist, I'm not boring. I have an opinion,
Speaker 14: I share it, and the things I've said are obviously
Speaker 14: going to be looked at and viewed in a less
Speaker 14: than favorable way from PR I understand their position. God
Speaker 14: bless them. They have a tough job. They allowed me
Speaker 14: to become a media member and to grow the Detroit
Speaker 14: Sports podcast and on Sports Illustrated. But from their perspective,
Speaker 14: if you have one open seat and a guy like
Speaker 14: John mckern's there who you can't control, because if you
Speaker 14: tell me something, I'm just gonna come out and reveal it,
Speaker 14: you could have me or you could have two slappy,
Speaker 14: kiss ass journalists who when you threaten them to take
Speaker 14: their credential they start crying, who are you gonna accept?
Speaker 14: So it's easier for them to have more of an
Speaker 14: aligned media than to have me. So it just shows
Speaker 14: to me the lines are a little bit soft, and
Speaker 14: I respect it. Though from that perspective they can't handle
Speaker 14: the doc Probably nobody can. My wife fairly can. Nobody can.
Speaker 14: Because I'm honest, I'm real. And the other thing too,
Speaker 14: is I also in this position. I also have another
Speaker 14: whole other career that's also wildly successful. So losing a
Speaker 14: credential to me, while it hurts and stings because I
Speaker 14: thought that we had a different relationship than what actually was,
Speaker 14: nothing's gonna really change. I'm successful in life and I'm
Speaker 14: I'm blessed to be part of the Detroit sports media,
Speaker 14: and I still am. I just won't be driving down
Speaker 14: ninety four playing doctor dre down the street and trying
Speaker 14: to avoid all the headache traffic going down to Allen Park.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna miss it, but you never know, I still
Speaker 14: might find a way. I might, you know, write them
Speaker 14: a letter, or I might fight for it a little bit,
Speaker 14: but I don't know. It's it's for me. I'm still
Speaker 14: lucky to be the owner of the Detroit Sports podcast
Speaker 14: and to run lines on a side for now.
Speaker 4: Amen, Doc, you south to do something and you did
Speaker 4: it absolutely tremendously successful. You've covered the team. It makes
Speaker 4: tons of sense. I just I Carlos Monaro. Whatever I do,
Speaker 4: I apologize. And I don't know his name completely. I've
Speaker 4: read one article by Hans and I dismissed him as
Speaker 4: a journalist in my opinion, and he wrote the stuff
Speaker 4: about Dan Campbell, like slanderous stuff about Dan Campbell from
Speaker 4: who was in college right when he got the first
Speaker 4: job for the Detroit Lines. I thought it was a
Speaker 4: bad look on the organization. Yeah, when he did that, he's.
Speaker 1: Still in there. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's like,
Speaker 1: what kind of stuff?
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, no, no, the things that look the nature of
Speaker 14: what you would describe as professional or unprofessional. Look, it's different.
Speaker 14: I am not a writer that just types things in
Speaker 14: a newspaper. This is twenty twenty six. I have opinions
Speaker 14: on everything, and I have opinions on other media members
Speaker 14: coming out And in two hours, I power ranked the
Speaker 14: Detroit Lions podcast, and I share my opinion on who's good,
Speaker 14: who's not good, who listened to?
Speaker 5: Who's boring?
Speaker 14: Who're there? You are you guys all lines podcasts? You're
Speaker 14: more of a sports show. But maybe I'll add you
Speaker 14: guys into the mix. But by and large, I'll say
Speaker 14: this digital media is new. They don't know how to
Speaker 14: handle it, and they're they're scared because the journalism field
Speaker 14: is cracking. It's a non profitable business that most journalists
Speaker 14: don't understand. I'm in a different position in that I'm
Speaker 14: running the media business. I know how much money comes in,
Speaker 14: and I'm responsible to pay the three journalists who work
Speaker 14: for me. So I'm running a business and for me.
Speaker 14: I don't work for the Lions. I'm not a partner
Speaker 14: with the Lions. I'm not a broadcast partner. I'm not
Speaker 14: a TV partner. I'm not a subscription based person who
Speaker 14: needs to kiss asks to get the access. I don't
Speaker 14: need any of that. The credential was a blessing. I
Speaker 14: want to cover the team and be a conduit to
Speaker 14: a fan, but I understand that my way of presenting
Speaker 14: things is not conducive to keep a professional credential, and
Speaker 14: I respect them for doing it. It makes no sense
Speaker 14: because when you look at a guy like me, I
Speaker 14: want to be a true journalist, which is question everything,
Speaker 14: be direct, be bold, and to be open. And so
Speaker 14: I look at it from the way in which I
Speaker 14: presented myself. I don't look at it like it's all
Speaker 14: that you know, serious in regards to its sports. We're
Speaker 14: making jokes, we're being sarcastic. But if you're a professional
Speaker 14: NFL organization like the Lions, and you don't want someone
Speaker 14: like me just being you know, wild and free on
Speaker 14: the internet, I just would have liked them to kind
Speaker 14: of mention it, like, hey, we're bothered by it. I thought,
Speaker 14: it's like, you know what, the Internet in sports is
Speaker 14: a wild wild West. I feel like I'm one of
Speaker 14: the tamer critics out there. There's far different critics. Now,
Speaker 14: maybe they didn't have a media credential. But I looked
Speaker 14: at it from the perspective of how do I grow
Speaker 14: from this? You know, maybe I'll be more unprofessional, more
Speaker 14: of a renegade, But I just I can't. I can't
Speaker 14: discount the fact that the way I acted produced wildly
Speaker 14: successful results in terms of the mission at hand, which
Speaker 14: is grow a loyal audience talk sports. Rile it up.
Speaker 14: This is sports, we're debating, we're we're you know, having
Speaker 14: a discussion, and so I'll say it again. I listen
Speaker 14: to all the podcasts as a professional. Some of them
Speaker 14: I like, some of them I find boring. Some of
Speaker 14: them I go, I think you guys could be more
Speaker 14: successful on your YouTube channel if you weren't so boring.
Speaker 14: And some outlets like Pride of Detroit I think, slant
Speaker 14: far to left on the slappy side and present information
Speaker 14: that makes the fans angrier when the team sucks. But
Speaker 14: that's their mission and I have no problem telling it
Speaker 14: to them directly. I have no problem posting it on
Speaker 14: social media. I have no problem telling reporters that I
Speaker 14: think the journalists in town and the journalism field has
Speaker 14: been responsible for the journalism field falling apart, and they
Speaker 14: view podcasts as major threats. The digital platform is going
Speaker 14: to overwhelm them because it's more profitable, it's more reasonable,
Speaker 14: it's more engaging for the fan. Journalism is going to
Speaker 14: die in five years, and eventually all the seats in
Speaker 14: there will be filled by content creators and those that
Speaker 14: create their own brands. Because the brands realize that when
Speaker 14: you're engaging interesting, smart and relevant and somebody that connects
Speaker 14: and grows an audience, a media outlet is going to
Speaker 14: hire you. Now does it align with the way in
Speaker 14: which PR works to try to spend things positive? All
Speaker 14: I'm gonna do is ask you guys this and why
Speaker 14: I valued lines on a side. I just want all
Speaker 14: the chat. Who don't like me or anything like that,
Speaker 14: ask yourself. When the Tyrian Arnold situation happened, there was
Speaker 14: only one column in the entire metro Detroit area that
Speaker 14: posted the Lion's culture has changed. Tarrian Arnold should be
Speaker 14: cut one and that was us. Why is that that
Speaker 14: can't be realistic?
Speaker 11: Now?
Speaker 14: People said it on podcasts? Why did only one media
Speaker 14: outlet write a bold headline that said cut Terran Arnold?
Speaker 14: Were they scared? Did they not want to upset the
Speaker 14: apple cart? That can't that It's not even a relevantly
Speaker 14: big opinion. Terry and Arnold was a player that caused
Speaker 14: a lot of noise the culture change. Dan Campbell said, no,
Speaker 14: turns that was not some major relevation relevant discovery by
Speaker 14: me and veto to talk about cutting Terry Arnold. But
Speaker 14: the question mark I leave myself is why didn't nobody
Speaker 14: else write it? You know, and look, maybe they are
Speaker 14: truly scared of having their credential yanked. I don't have
Speaker 14: to be. I will go on and the Lions, I
Speaker 14: thank them again humbly for letting me grow the podcast
Speaker 14: bigger than what it was. But the podcast would have
Speaker 14: been fine without the credential. So it's just unfortunate that
Speaker 14: I just felt blindsided because I felt, and I said
Speaker 14: it on the Loan Wolves podcast yesterday, I felt that
Speaker 14: the Lions viewed me as a normal media nuisance, like, Hey,
Speaker 14: this guy's probing, he's engaging, he's gonna ask direct questions.
Speaker 14: But I viewed myself as a conduit to a fan.
Speaker 14: I was a fan, I was a season take holder,
Speaker 14: I paid money, So I felt like that's how they
Speaker 14: viewed me. No, I think when I got the email,
Speaker 14: the the relevant thought that came to my mind is, oh, wow,
Speaker 14: they view me as a nuisance and that just doesn't
Speaker 14: align with me wanting to be there then.
Speaker 3: And you know, you talked about a little bit some
Speaker 3: of the reporters in this town scared to ask tough questions,
Speaker 3: and that definitely, you know, whenever we hear the postgame
Speaker 3: pressers or media availabilities. For Dan and Brad Holmes, it's
Speaker 3: always it was always you asking the tough questions, asking
Speaker 3: the you know, why why aren't you using as many motions,
Speaker 3: even though it was upsetting to Dan Campbell, which was
Speaker 3: proven by fact that he wasn't using as many motions.
Speaker 3: The big blue wall we talk about for Michigan and
Speaker 3: for that type of thing, is there truly a Honolulu
Speaker 3: blue wall that they're trying to kind of silence anybody
Speaker 3: that talks bad about the organization?
Speaker 14: Just build all I don't think they're trying to silence anybody.
Speaker 14: I mean, I'm not going anywhere. What it is is
Speaker 14: that there's a standard of conduct that I think I
Speaker 14: want to me as a podcaster, want to be more
Speaker 14: liberal than what the Lions want. So, for example, all Right,
Speaker 14: when Rod Wood obviously for the second time, asked for
Speaker 14: a player's money back all Right and publicly shared it,
Speaker 14: our reaction was, I can't wait for this guy to leave.
Speaker 14: I think he's a figure that caused a lot of
Speaker 14: negative news. I feel like a lot of the way
Speaker 14: in which he treated players might have been detrimental to
Speaker 14: the organization and so we wrote I can't wait for
Speaker 14: this guy to leave. Now nobody's gonna write it in
Speaker 14: that bolder fashion because they are scared of their credential
Speaker 14: getting pulled. Honestly, guys, if you really looked at how
Speaker 14: I acted, I acted in a way that it didn't
Speaker 14: really matter if I had the credential or not, and
Speaker 14: I should and if I wanted to keep the credential,
Speaker 14: I should have played the game differently. But I do
Speaker 14: not apologize. I am who I am, and like I said,
Speaker 14: I can't backtrack because that was the original goal was
Speaker 14: to be wild, be wilder, be different, and I just
Speaker 14: needed to, like, there are rules, I don't make the rules. Now.
Speaker 14: Unfortunately for the Lions and their PR staff, they're going
Speaker 14: to realize that the rules of journalism have changed. More
Speaker 14: and more of me are going to show up asking
Speaker 14: for those credentials in the next ten years. So it's
Speaker 14: easy to get rid of me. I'm just a regular
Speaker 14: guy with a regular website and a backing, and that's
Speaker 14: fine to cut me out. But I think it would
Speaker 14: have been fair to just sit me down and say, hey,
Speaker 14: here are the realistic standards that we'd like you to
Speaker 14: follow and have a discussion. They just never did. They
Speaker 14: kept a folder and then cut me off in one's
Speaker 14: false swoop. So but look, the journalism field is changing
Speaker 14: and everybody has different goals. And I respect journalists that
Speaker 14: want to be in that lane, and you get to
Speaker 14: be in that room. I'm in a different boat, guys
Speaker 14: in that I wanted to make more money than a journalist.
Speaker 14: I wanted to happier than a journalist. You got to
Speaker 14: remember I walked in in twenty nineteen. I looked around.
Speaker 14: All the writers in there looked like miserable old dudes
Speaker 14: that didn't like life. I said, holy Kyle, what's wrong
Speaker 14: with this journalism field? I thought this was cool, and
Speaker 14: everybody was miserable. I'm walking in there all happy. Oh
Speaker 14: I'm a podcaster, I got my own thing. And everybody
Speaker 14: looked wore out, probably financially strapped, probably worried about their
Speaker 14: next story they had to write. I walked in there
Speaker 14: happy as hell because I led everything. So I looked
Speaker 14: at it and like, what the hell's wrong with the
Speaker 14: journalism field? And the journalists made it clear that that
Speaker 14: field is crazy. If you're and I respect them, you
Speaker 14: have to be crazy to be a journalist because you
Speaker 14: don't make any money, you're overworked, underappreciated, and it's easier
Speaker 14: for a guy like me to just share an opinion
Speaker 14: and to do things bigger, bolder than a journalist. So
Speaker 14: I respect that field, but it's not one in which
Speaker 14: it's sustainable on a marketing profitable level. And I look
Speaker 14: at it from the perspective of I didn't want to
Speaker 14: be a journalist. I always wanted to be a podcaster,
Speaker 14: and I took it to the highest level humanly possible,
Speaker 14: and in my opinion, this is crazy. I'm like, well,
Speaker 14: I thought, for like five seconds, is this going to
Speaker 14: hurt me? Not having a credential? No people know who
Speaker 14: I am. I've have the same audience for fifteen years.
Speaker 14: It's the same people that got me on Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 14: I don't think I'm going anywhere, but if it did
Speaker 14: the writing part, it's no problem.
Speaker 3: I have a.
Speaker 14: Podcast that is fully sustainable. So I'm just in a
Speaker 14: different boat because I was doing things like Pat McAfee.
Speaker 14: Before Pat McAfee, he's doing it on a gigantic scale.
Speaker 14: I was just doing it on a reasonable scale for
Speaker 14: me and my three journalists that work with me. So
Speaker 14: and I'll just say this, and maybe they don't like
Speaker 14: this either. If you're listening and you want to make
Speaker 14: money in sports media, don't be a journalist. Please, don't
Speaker 14: be a podcaster. Start your own thing, force a media
Speaker 14: company to work with you, and you have more control
Speaker 14: and you have more of an opportunity to be happier.
Speaker 14: I wasn't upset. I was happy, and I have my
Speaker 14: own I have my own podcast, I have multiple things
Speaker 14: I'm doing in the sports media world. I'm not locked
Speaker 14: in to worrying about the Lions and a credential. It's
Speaker 14: a nuisance. I liked it. I would have liked to
Speaker 14: have been, you know, closer to the Lion's PR team.
Speaker 14: But for me, the only thing that I know I
Speaker 14: viewed it wrong was I viewed journalism in my world
Speaker 14: as a true journalist rights and says things that annoys
Speaker 14: the PR staff. And that's the attitude I took. And
Speaker 14: of course it's annoying and frustrating, but that's what I
Speaker 14: believe the field to be truly is to upset the
Speaker 14: apple cart, challenge things. Because the Lions have fifteen people
Speaker 14: who are going to stroke their egos and they have
Speaker 14: a lot of that I just wanted to be the
Speaker 14: conduit to the fan that said, hey, I got a complaint, John,
Speaker 14: please go ask this complaint. And I did that and
Speaker 14: I'm proud of it.
Speaker 4: Got a couple of super chats for you, Dot Man
Speaker 4: do Yeah, you're the man. Shout our guy. Super fan
Speaker 4: Hutch will be at training camp with them. Shout out,
Speaker 4: he says, hashtag release the dog files. Love you, Doc.
Speaker 4: We all stand with the Doc. He's a real one
Speaker 4: and speaks for all of us. Thank you for everything,
Speaker 4: Legend the Goat, thanks for being real.
Speaker 14: Yeah, super fan hutches a legend.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 14: The support has been great. A lot of people message
Speaker 14: you guys, and look, I'm not going anywhere. I'm still
Speaker 14: the same guy. I'm still doing the same thing. I'm
Speaker 14: still the same guy at Detroit podcast I was the
Speaker 14: other day. I just and like I said, if you
Speaker 14: want to keep a credential, I can give the other
Speaker 14: side too. If you want to be in the room,
Speaker 14: don't act like me. Don't act like And here's the
Speaker 14: funny part. Right when I left, what were you doing, Doc?
Speaker 4: He's using there's burping and stuff like no, no, no, listen.
Speaker 3: If you follow do you think there was a specific moment, because,
Speaker 3: like you said, it kind of blindsided you. No, not
Speaker 3: not like a specific moment.
Speaker 14: Listen, for fifteen years, I've just shared everything that's in
Speaker 14: my head, unadulterated. How I talk to you, guys. We
Speaker 14: talk about guys stuff. I'm sarcastic, I tell jokes, I'm direct.
Speaker 1: I had a problem with that.
Speaker 14: Maybe maybe they didn't like that I said Detroit's podcast
Speaker 14: is boring. I don't know. I say these things openly
Speaker 14: to everybody. I'm not hiding anything. I have an opinion.
Speaker 14: I have an opinion on media. I'm a media consumer.
Speaker 14: I have an opinion on everything. And here's the thing, guys,
Speaker 14: if you want a credential, you gotta kind of be
Speaker 14: a little bit more buttoned up and a little bit
Speaker 14: more conservative. And remember I came into this. I am wrong,
Speaker 14: but I don't have to care because I built it
Speaker 14: to the point where it's self sustaining. So I acted
Speaker 14: in a way where if I lost the credential, find,
Speaker 14: if I have a credential, find, it doesn't hurt me
Speaker 14: in a big way. So that's why you can act
Speaker 14: that way because you're the leader of a media company.
Speaker 14: Two media companies they're successful, you have three people working
Speaker 14: for you, you pay them healthily, and everything's fine. The credential
Speaker 14: is not going to significantly impact me. But if you're
Speaker 14: a journalist and your forty eight thousand dollars a year
Speaker 14: job is dependent on and these lions PR guys telling you, hey, yeah,
Speaker 14: you can talk to this guy, then you never act
Speaker 14: like me. You act like me when you're in full
Speaker 14: control and you don't have to care, You have fourth
Speaker 14: you have multiple ways of doing things, and so I
Speaker 14: just wanted to be a conduit to the fan. And
Speaker 14: like I said, the only wrong thing I did was
Speaker 14: I took the attitude of my job was to disrupt.
Speaker 14: My job was to piss them off. And I truly
Speaker 14: humbly apologized to the lions PR staff for pissing them off,
Speaker 14: for feeling like I was on professional I truly humbly apologize.
Speaker 14: But that was my stance was my job is to
Speaker 14: piss you off. And if that's what I did, I'm
Speaker 14: the realist journalist in town. And guess what, they just
Speaker 14: unleashed the baddest bad boy media member in town. They
Speaker 14: made my career. They booted the bad boy media member.
Speaker 14: All he did was ask questions in tweet. They can't
Speaker 14: handle that, they can't handle the doc they made my career.
Speaker 14: Thank you lines Edward O'Neil with the super chat too.
Speaker 3: He says, there's only three people who hold Dan and
Speaker 3: Co accountable. It's the three people on the screen currently.
Speaker 3: I wish our media was like Phillies. It's ridiculous. We
Speaker 3: appreciate ed WARDO.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 4: I know the doc is trail blazer, there's anything he
Speaker 4: takes young beaten path. But was there anything you reported
Speaker 4: on that you did hold yourself back from because you
Speaker 4: didn't want to, you know, go over the bounds a
Speaker 4: little bit?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 14: I mean, that's what was so crazy was we had
Speaker 14: our initial bumps in twenty nineteen with stories I wrote.
Speaker 14: They messaged me, they messaged my bosses. My boss has
Speaker 14: supported me, and they said John is a credible writer.
Speaker 14: We like his flow, we like what he does. We
Speaker 14: support the way in which this story went down. But
Speaker 14: we worked with the Lions and shared with them information.
Speaker 14: I just would have liked them to say, hey, you're
Speaker 14: firing close to the son. We don't like the criticism.
Speaker 14: We don't like the media criticism. We don't like I
Speaker 14: think truly when I started the daily podcast and started
Speaker 14: giving my opinion daily and when I asked Dan Campbell
Speaker 14: that question week one, and then uh talked about it,
Speaker 14: and and and in a way, you know, handled it
Speaker 14: the way maybe that they didn't want it to be handled.
Speaker 14: But I don't know if there's a specific moment they
Speaker 14: said they kept files. Who keeps a file on a
Speaker 14: on a podcaster that's asking questions?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 14: What did I write? What did I say?
Speaker 1: Would what's the article in ten nineteen you said you
Speaker 1: got in trouble for the Oh.
Speaker 14: Oh, this is a long story, but here here's what happened,
Speaker 14: all right, So this is this goes to the whole
Speaker 14: story of media literacy. A podcaster and a former sports director.
Speaker 14: His name was Eli Zeric. He was doing a podcast.
Speaker 14: I liked it. He was doing it with Denny McClain
Speaker 14: and Bob Page. I liked listening to it. He was
Speaker 14: a guy that was on TV, but he transitioned to podcasts.
Speaker 14: So he goes on his podcast and he says, I've
Speaker 14: heard conversation that Jeff Bezos could buy the Lions. So
Speaker 14: all I do, in a simple aggregation is it's in
Speaker 14: the headline, it's in the story. It says Eli zerit
Speaker 14: says the Lions could be sold. So I credited to
Speaker 14: what he said, just like I did, Just like I
Speaker 14: did talking about you, mister e in regards to David Montgomery.
Speaker 14: The same style of story, the same exact style. So
Speaker 14: what happened is all the other media outlets that were
Speaker 14: looking for clicks they reported it as Sports Illustrated says
Speaker 14: Lions could be sold. So it blows up worldwide. Guy,
Speaker 14: that's the biggest story I've ever written. Okay, it went worldwide,
Speaker 14: and the Lions were not happy to see a credentialed
Speaker 14: reporter with a headline that said with fifty headlines that
Speaker 14: said Sports Illustrated says that the lines are getting sold.
Speaker 14: So they called my boss. But my boss said, wait
Speaker 14: a minute, mister pr why are you saying that John
Speaker 14: did something wrong. The other outlets are incorrectly citing Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 14: John just correctly aggregated story. He wrote it, and they
Speaker 14: didn't like that style of decision for me to write it.
Speaker 14: So guess what I did. I wrote it another thousand
Speaker 14: times for the next seven years and kept doing it.
Speaker 14: So in the end, look, you know, I don't work
Speaker 14: for the Lions. I worked for Vito Cherco, Emmett Matasovski,
Speaker 14: Christian Boor and John Mcaroon and the loyal fans of Detroit.
Speaker 14: So if they don't want something written, it's my job
Speaker 14: to write it in my humble opinion. And that's the
Speaker 14: way it went. And so but but but again it
Speaker 14: goes to media literacy. Sports Illustrated didn't report shit in
Speaker 14: regards to Jeff Bezos. All we did was was share
Speaker 14: what was said publicly, like I've done for the last
Speaker 14: fifteen years.
Speaker 16: That would be a blessing Jeff Bezos and the Detroit
Speaker 16: I mean, I mean came out all this year and
Speaker 16: said that if once you know, Martha Ford passes, they
Speaker 16: will probably sell part of the team, right who said that?
Speaker 14: That's the crazy part about journalism is that that field
Speaker 14: became crooked in the way in which they reported things.
Speaker 14: We did things pretty much the right way other than
Speaker 14: boulder headlines, and I have three journalists that read everything.
Speaker 14: And the question I would ask the Lions if they
Speaker 14: ever caught me back again. They probably never will, But
Speaker 14: like I said, I still wish them well. I wished
Speaker 14: the pr guy and his family great wishes. He's a
Speaker 14: good dude, and he's just doing his job. And if
Speaker 14: I was him, I probably would have kicked my ass
Speaker 14: out in twenty twenty one. But in the end, journalism
Speaker 14: is taking a different form because the journalists feel like
Speaker 14: access is the biggest thing. It's not. It's opinion and entertainment.
Speaker 14: That's the realest thing out there, and you share your opinion.
Speaker 14: And the only thing I would ever tell the Lions
Speaker 14: pr is I know you didn't like what I said,
Speaker 14: but tell me what.
Speaker 1: I was wrong in.
Speaker 14: Tell me what I was wrong, and I'll correct it.
Speaker 14: But they never did. They didn't like what I said,
Speaker 14: and it was my job to say things that they
Speaker 14: didn't like. So I don't work for the Lions. I
Speaker 14: work for me and my family, and don't I'm not
Speaker 14: a partner with the Lions. I don't work for them.
Speaker 14: I work for me and I. All I asked is
Speaker 14: is if there's a file that you felt I wrote
Speaker 14: something wrong, share it with me and I'll grow as
Speaker 14: a reporter. But they just didn't like what I said,
Speaker 14: and it was not the content of the things. They
Speaker 14: just didn't like what I said. I didn't get I
Speaker 14: didn't get much wrong, if any least the doc tapes.
Speaker 3: Lions release the doc tapes, the people want.
Speaker 14: To release the tapes.
Speaker 3: What's in there?
Speaker 14: Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully it's not the pool pictures. Hopefully they're
Speaker 14: still you know, hopefully they're not like that. You know,
Speaker 14: I don't think that's my pool pictures. It's probably stupid
Speaker 14: ass shit I said about the media stuff I've said here.
Speaker 14: They're probably like the doc set titties on the Woodward Sports.
Speaker 14: He's a bad man, So listen, I tell listen. I
Speaker 14: like big black mics. If they had a problem with it,
Speaker 14: I apologize. I'm a big black mic fan, and uh,
Speaker 14: I said things in a sarcastic way. I thought it
Speaker 14: was in comedic form. And look in the end, they're
Speaker 14: not taking the money back, so it was all worth it. Man,
Speaker 14: thank you Lions for all that you did for me.
Speaker 14: They're not taking the money back. They're not taking anything
Speaker 14: back that's on my wrist. So I'm pretty happy.
Speaker 3: Oh, document dog walk in and sayd I smell like
Speaker 3: bro bitch.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen.
Speaker 14: I'm not a journalist. I never wanted to be. I
Speaker 14: promote podcasts. I promote you guys. Content creators are the future.
Speaker 14: It's the way things should be covered. It's a little
Speaker 14: bit more unadulterated. There should be a better marriage between
Speaker 14: you know, how journalists do their job and and but listen,
Speaker 14: all I can say is, when I started, there weren't
Speaker 14: many people doing podcasts. Now every single media member is
Speaker 14: doing a podcast. What does that say? And some of
Speaker 14: them are doing it unhappily. So I look at it
Speaker 14: from the perspective of I was in the right field.
Speaker 11: I knew.
Speaker 14: I knew in twenty thirteen podcasts would be big. I
Speaker 14: just always thought that a true media member would blow
Speaker 14: it up like Pat McAfee. I never thought an athlete
Speaker 14: would blow it up to that degree, but thankfully he
Speaker 14: did and reride the wave. But look, it's just it's really,
Speaker 14: it's not that big a deal. It's just not the
Speaker 14: right fit. I'm allowed, opinionated, a guy with nothing to lose.
Speaker 14: And if I broke rules, I wouldn't even know it
Speaker 14: because I'm not a journalist. I don't care about their rules.
Speaker 14: I just I just and to me, I fell on
Speaker 14: the sword for this. If you hate me because I
Speaker 14: love Michigan State and I hate Michigan, I get it.
Speaker 14: But know this, everything I did was for the fan
Speaker 14: of Detroit, every media member I tried to mentor everybody
Speaker 14: I've tried to talk about, how to grow, how to
Speaker 14: make money, how to keep a job. Everything I talked
Speaker 14: about and tweeted about was for the fan. And if
Speaker 14: I fell on the sword for the fan, it was
Speaker 14: all worth it. It was all worth it. Man, what a
Speaker 14: great story I'm gonna tell my grandkids. I was a reporter.
Speaker 14: The Lions hated my guts, and I went in there
Speaker 14: wanting them to hate my guts and they kicked me
Speaker 14: I ass out, And Wow, what a what a ride,
Speaker 14: what a journey for just a regular guy from East Point,
Speaker 14: Michigan to take it to this level. The Lions kicked
Speaker 14: my ass out, They threw me out like DJ j
Speaker 14: Z Jeff. But in the end, I know they don't
Speaker 14: like me. I know they don't like me, but I
Speaker 14: know they respect me. It's just I'm way too loud.
Speaker 14: I'm way too dangerous because I have nothing to lose.
Speaker 14: I'm successful in life and I have nothing to keep
Speaker 14: me from tweeting. If I want to tweet about titties,
Speaker 14: I tweet about titties. I mean, that's that's my problem,
Speaker 14: that's my biggest problem. That's my biggest problem.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good problem to have. I like some titties
Speaker 3: like that's.
Speaker 14: My biggest problem, and it's stupid to act like me,
Speaker 14: but if you can do it, it's a hell of
Speaker 14: a ride.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget how proud I was when I was
Speaker 4: able to share the Sports Illustrated article where you wrote
Speaker 4: about us having Malcolm rodriguezz on you, like you're actually
Speaker 4: writing about stuff that's going on around the Detroit space,
Speaker 4: no matter who it is. Like right now, I feel
Speaker 4: like things are a little CLICKI the Detroit media segment.
Speaker 4: Like I reach out to certain people, they don't they
Speaker 4: don't want to be honest whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: I know how it is. But you've always kept it
Speaker 1: real anyways, right Doc, you helped them.
Speaker 14: And here's the thing was that was my attitude was
Speaker 14: I talked about everything, and I think the Lions wanted
Speaker 14: me to put a little filter on some things, but
Speaker 14: I just couldn't. I just couldn't do it. And maybe
Speaker 14: now I will, but I doubt it. I mean, I'm
Speaker 14: a guy that went into this going nothing to lose.
Speaker 14: I love talking to Detroit fans, I love talking to
Speaker 14: the haters. Actually The crazy part about me, and I'm
Speaker 14: probably sick in the head, is I relish talking to
Speaker 14: the guy with three followers who says you're an idiot
Speaker 14: and can't and can't do this job. And I love
Speaker 14: talking to that person because I think that I can
Speaker 14: maybe get that extra viewer. But that's just the way
Speaker 14: I am. Yeah, I would say, if you want to
Speaker 14: be a credentialed media member, just do the opposite. You'll
Speaker 14: be fine. But if you want to be employed for
Speaker 14: fifteen years and have your own thing, maybe ask me
Speaker 14: follow along and see how it is to have control
Speaker 14: and to be a media member. It's a wonderful ride
Speaker 14: all the way around. When you have control, it's different.
Speaker 14: And that's the one thing I never wanted to look like.
Speaker 14: The journalists on twenty nineteen one of them quit and
Speaker 14: left went overseas. Two journalists in town, two beat writers
Speaker 14: in this town, quit the beat and left the country.
Speaker 14: That speaks to what that feel does. I laugh every
Speaker 14: day of my life, and I talked to sports and
Speaker 14: I talk to funny people every single day. And I'm
Speaker 14: never gonna look like those old, raggedy journalists who got
Speaker 14: beat down by that business country. They fled the country,
Speaker 14: two of them, one Tiger's one Lions. I was like,
Speaker 14: I want to stay in the country. I'm as I
Speaker 14: go to Puntakana and shack up with a couple of ladies.
Speaker 14: You know, I don't want to leave the country. I
Speaker 14: don't want to grow, you know, man titties and be
Speaker 14: old and broke. I wanted to have a little something
Speaker 14: to give my kids. I wanted to have something as
Speaker 14: a legacy. These media companies they spit these guys out,
Speaker 14: they chew them up. They're like, hey, write ten thousand articles,
Speaker 14: will pay you thirty six thousand dollars a year, and
Speaker 14: then see you later. I didn't want that.
Speaker 1: Doctor. I appreciate you coming on with us man.
Speaker 14: The break News listen, and I again again, truly, I
Speaker 14: apologize to the Lions if I offended anybody. I just
Speaker 14: went into it thinking that you should be disruptive, if
Speaker 14: you're a journalist, you should upset the apple cart, because remember,
Speaker 14: pr means to spend things in a way that's pro lions.
Speaker 14: My job was to try and spend things in a
Speaker 14: way that sparked discussion and debate.
Speaker 3: And and you did it, and it's amazing, and you're
Speaker 3: still gonna do. And that's what it like with us.
Speaker 3: Like you said, if you've got a podcast, you don't
Speaker 3: need like the credential is I mean, it's cool to
Speaker 3: have bonus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool to have.
Speaker 3: It was the bonus.
Speaker 14: It was like the second girl when you're having sex.
Speaker 14: It's the second girl, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 14: was it was the second set of titties. I had
Speaker 14: the first one already. That was that was happily married
Speaker 14: for twenty five years. And the credential was basically the
Speaker 14: wife going, you know, honey, it's your forty fifth birthday. Congratulations.
Speaker 14: Me and me and Betty are coming into town and
Speaker 14: we're gonna have some fun. That's what the credential was
Speaker 14: to me.
Speaker 6: I tell you this fault.
Speaker 1: Doc got appreciated.
Speaker 4: No, it was now where can the people find you
Speaker 4: daily with your Detroit Lines news and all sports.
Speaker 14: Now, Yeah, listen if you want to have fun, have
Speaker 14: some debates at Detroit podcast. It's the Detroit Sports Podcast.
Speaker 14: Our model was simple, uncensored, unfiltered, dedicated to Detroit sports.
Speaker 14: I'm often imitated. I can't be duplicated. I'm a real
Speaker 14: guy that just tells it like it is. And I
Speaker 14: just all I do is if I think it, I
Speaker 14: tweet it and then I apologize later. And that's the
Speaker 14: way it's been for me, and that's what produced my
Speaker 14: recipe for success. I don't know if it's if you
Speaker 14: can replicate it, but if you can, it's really fun.
Speaker 14: It's just really fun. But again, yeah, for the Lions
Speaker 14: PR staff, humbly, truly, I apologize if I was a nuisance.
Speaker 14: That was never That was not something that I wanted
Speaker 14: to end up with me not being there. I thought
Speaker 14: we could be like a nusance together. You you listen,
Speaker 14: and here's the last part I'll take you.
Speaker 3: Listen, listen.
Speaker 14: Here's the part that I liked. I thought it was
Speaker 14: a trade off. The trade off was I would ask
Speaker 14: for interviews, they'd say no, and then I get to
Speaker 14: talk shit. So I thought it was an equal trade off.
Speaker 3: They told me no ninety nine point nine nine.
Speaker 14: Percent of times. I thought it was a beautiful trade off.
Speaker 14: You just don't give me no interviews and I talked shit.
Speaker 14: I thought it was a beautiful, a beautiful trade off.
Speaker 14: But in the end they felt like a slappy would
Speaker 14: probably suit that job better than me, And I'm sad
Speaker 14: for that.
Speaker 1: I am too.
Speaker 3: I am too. I think like you said, I think
Speaker 3: it is a there is a healthy you know, suspicion.
Speaker 3: There should be you know, healthy conversation because they're not
Speaker 3: perfect and they don't do everything right and they do
Speaker 3: make mistakes and like, if they were perfect, they would
Speaker 3: have maybe won a super Bowl by now. So it's
Speaker 3: it's healthy to have that in the in the room
Speaker 3: because they have made mistakes and people need to call
Speaker 3: that out. So it sucks.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, before I get out of here, Now, here's
Speaker 14: the funny part. Could you imagine if this made the
Speaker 14: files and we sit across from each other and be like, hey, guys,
Speaker 14: I'd love to be in a credential media member again?
Speaker 1: Did you on.
Speaker 14: July twenty third, July twenty fourth refer to our credential
Speaker 14: as a second set of tittiest? How do I explain that?
Speaker 3: So that's what I think.
Speaker 14: That's the stupid way I think, and and and and
Speaker 14: and act. But it's unprofessional, but in a manner in
Speaker 14: which that's entertaining, And that's the way it is. That's
Speaker 14: just real. That's that's all I can say is I'm
Speaker 14: real and I had fun with it, and we'll see
Speaker 14: how it goes. We'll see maybe this could be something
Speaker 14: where uh it's bigger than what it is, you know,
Speaker 14: and we'll see, we'll see what happens with it. But
Speaker 14: I got blessed in the media world. I hit the
Speaker 14: Grand Slam jackpot.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, and you can't stop the doc.
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 14: I think. I think. I think on Sports, Illustrated likes
Speaker 14: the the real guy that's uh, honest.
Speaker 3: And as they should, as most most reputable media companies do,
Speaker 3: as most as most big media markets do. They they
Speaker 3: you know, fucking New York Philly like it's it's not
Speaker 3: all you know, rainbows in in unicorn ship, like you
Speaker 3: gotta have some guys that are gonna ruffle feathers. I
Speaker 3: think it's I think it's pretty soft that that that
Speaker 3: is so frowned.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Detroit, the lines, the lines are soft and uh
Speaker 14: but that's what the media wants it to be because
Speaker 14: you get more access if you're a little bit nicer.
Speaker 14: So I don't I don't view it that way. It's
Speaker 14: a difference of agreement, it's different of opinion. But uh,
Speaker 14: I'm happy that a certain segment of the Detroit Lions
Speaker 14: fans understand what I'm about. Some people will always view
Speaker 14: me as a nuisance, and that's fine, but I always
Speaker 14: felt like I was a real conduit to what real
Speaker 14: fans wanted. If if if someone messaged me and said, hey,
Speaker 14: ask this, I would ask it. And sometimes maybe even
Speaker 14: in a way that might have gotten me in trouble.
Speaker 14: And I'm always grateful for the fans who put me there,
Speaker 14: and thank you guys for supporting me and not you know,
Speaker 14: dismissing me and dropped me to the curve because I'm
Speaker 14: no longer an insider insider, but I still have opinions.
Speaker 14: I'll still read, and I'll be as smart as ever,
Speaker 14: and I'll come on here anytime you guys want.
Speaker 1: Absolutely look forward to it. Doc, I hope.
Speaker 14: So you guys are crushing it too, Keep it up.
Speaker 14: Stop stop pissing off the David Montgomery, you Carnyn ass
Speaker 14: old doc.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, brother. We'll see soon, shaking the doc
Speaker 1: shout out to the doc man.
Speaker 3: And he's right, guys, it's you know, the if you're
Speaker 3: running a podcast, if you're doing opinion based stuff, the
Speaker 3: credential is not a necessity. It helps, for sure, and
Speaker 3: it's a cool thing to have, but it's you don't
Speaker 3: need it.
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Speaker 1: We have Frankie the building. Frankie's working on some tacos
Speaker 1: off stage. Uh yes, yeah yeah, Scott, dude, I didn't
Speaker 1: know you did a taco competition too.
Speaker 11: I know we did it. We did a burger a
Speaker 11: few weeks ago there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing, great time.
Speaker 15: Yes, oh yeah, yes, Sunday not only tacos, but we
Speaker 15: also got margaritas as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that was a bonus feature that I know
Speaker 4: was going on to like, what's five minutes ago?
Speaker 11: You said it absolutely yeah, so we we got you. Come.
Speaker 11: You try all the tacos.
Speaker 15: We'll have a dozen different tacorias there, vote for your
Speaker 15: favorite taco, and then you get to taste five different
Speaker 15: margaritas and vote for your favorite margarita.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, so the trophy for each of the.
Speaker 15: Winners, they get to go home and you got get
Speaker 15: with the price of your ticket, you can try all.
Speaker 1: Those When when didn't you start this one?
Speaker 15: This one's start eighth year, eighth year. Yeah, this is
Speaker 15: something that I'm I'm yes, and.
Speaker 3: So tell the people again. It's downtown, it's an Eastern market.
Speaker 3: Where can they go to get tickets? Can they still
Speaker 3: purchase tickets.
Speaker 15: Or no, absolutely still purchase tickets. Taco showdown dot com.
Speaker 15: It's at Shed five. Just like the Burger Battle was
Speaker 15: VIP again. You get the fast pass, you get to
Speaker 15: get in early, skip the lines so you can get
Speaker 15: the VIP ticket.
Speaker 11: You get in early at eleven am. Long lines are long.
Speaker 15: There'll be over a thousand plus people in the GA line.
Speaker 11: They get it at one o'clock.
Speaker 15: But if you want to get in before them, get
Speaker 15: the VIP ticket, get it at eleven am. We'll be
Speaker 15: there till five against shed five Eastern Market this Sunday
Speaker 15: Taco Showdown dot com And.
Speaker 3: We got the link in the chat Chris, if you
Speaker 3: can pin that to the top of the chat, I
Speaker 3: appreciate you. Taco Showdown dot com. You can click on
Speaker 3: that link and get your tickets today because it is
Speaker 3: this weekend. And you said, like, we did a couple
Speaker 3: a couple more last month. The Burger Showdown is the
Speaker 3: tenth year anniversary. How much bigger of a a staple
Speaker 3: that that's become in the Detroit scene and this taco
Speaker 3: went out eight years yes as well, Well, how much
Speaker 3: do you look back and say, like, when you were
Speaker 3: starting these things, did you think that they would become
Speaker 3: this big of events.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been a really remarkable the momentum that's built
Speaker 15: from it. Every year we get a new restaurant. Frankie's
Speaker 15: here today. He's a new restaurant that has never been
Speaker 15: in before. And that's what really motivates us, that excites
Speaker 15: us is these small businesses that are just getting started
Speaker 15: and they're looking to get exposure and they see an
Speaker 15: event like this. It's very low entry fee for them
Speaker 15: to get into and they're able to get in front
Speaker 15: of two thousand taco lovers. So it's a niche market
Speaker 15: of people who already love tacos, and whether you go
Speaker 15: home with a trophy or not, you're gonna get amazing marketing.
Speaker 11: You guys are going to be there.
Speaker 15: Fifteen other influencers that are going to be there that
Speaker 15: are going to try all the tacos. They're going to
Speaker 15: post about it in our celebrity judges. We got Charlie
Speaker 15: Langston from Channel two Very Cool. He's going to be
Speaker 15: there as a celebrity judge. We got Serena from our
Speaker 15: magazine to be there. We got Lindsey Green from the
Speaker 15: Detroit Free Press The Food out of Her. She's gonna
Speaker 15: be there as a judge. So all these restaurants that
Speaker 15: are looking for exposure, they get a chance to get
Speaker 15: in front of all these media outlets as well as
Speaker 15: all the guests. We'll get a chance to try them.
Speaker 15: Once they try them, Wow, this is a great taco,
Speaker 15: They're gonna want to go to the restaurant.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 15: That's what we've seen is that when people participate in it,
Speaker 15: they want to come back because they see the advantage
Speaker 15: they get in the marketing side of it, and the
Speaker 15: weeks to come after the.
Speaker 4: Event, the guys coming back DOWNNY repeat winners that showed
Speaker 4: up this year, or.
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, El Taco Dojo has won in the past.
Speaker 1: Been there. They go to Konan it's a food truck.
Speaker 1: They go to food truck. It's really good.
Speaker 6: Phenomenal, Yeah, phenomenal. They do a great job, great name.
Speaker 3: And and like you talked about, we went for the
Speaker 3: burger showed on. You know, there's only so much you
Speaker 3: can do with burgers and they're all doing their different
Speaker 3: but tacos it creates a whole You can do breakfast tacos,
Speaker 3: you can do fish tacos. Like how much variety of
Speaker 3: the people gonna see out.
Speaker 11: There, Yeah, they're gonna see a lot of variety.
Speaker 15: We asked the restaurants to just make one talk go
Speaker 15: for the judges, but for the guests, they're gonna have
Speaker 15: a variety.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So they'll have.
Speaker 15: Anywhere from three to five different tacos at each place,
Speaker 15: so you'll be able to try different ones. And we
Speaker 15: asked them to feature, you know, their favorites from the restaurant.
Speaker 15: But for the judges they only make you know, one tackle.
Speaker 15: But for the gas you're able to try a multitude
Speaker 15: of different ones. We're also gonna have wrestlers there too.
Speaker 15: I have the last Yeah. At first, Yeah, the wrestlers
Speaker 15: are gonna be. They're all masked up and we don't
Speaker 15: have room for a ring unfortunately.
Speaker 11: I wish we did. That would be great. But they're
Speaker 11: gonna be there.
Speaker 15: They're taking pictures, they'll be all dressed up walking around.
Speaker 11: They're there pretty much every Actually, guys, where.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be, We're gonna be the Luta doors. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm coming back.
Speaker 3: Don't try to take our masks.
Speaker 11: And then we got some traditional folk dancers as well.
Speaker 15: So there's this family that has been doing it for
Speaker 15: over one hundred years and in Southwest they bring out
Speaker 15: about thirty different dancers and we do it mob style.
Speaker 15: So when you're there, you're not gonna know when they start.
Speaker 15: Just be out of nowhere. They're gonna start dancing and
Speaker 15: start dancing in the middle of it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 15: they go on the back, they change outfits, and they
Speaker 15: come back out and they do another one. They'll do
Speaker 15: about four different ones throughout the day, and you just
Speaker 15: don't know when when they're going to pop up.
Speaker 11: But it's always a crowd favorite Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Man.
Speaker 4: This sounds like I always enjoyed going the weddings if
Speaker 4: like everyone's happy, you know, this sounds like that same
Speaker 4: type environment.
Speaker 1: Everyone's would be in a good but there's no way.
Speaker 11: There's no way you're not going to be in a
Speaker 11: good mood.
Speaker 1: Tacos Margarita's performances, it's supposed to be beautiful out too.
Speaker 3: It's just a perfect and looking at your like with
Speaker 3: the Eastern Market, like, what could you say about them?
Speaker 3: You know, having these these events there and hosting these
Speaker 3: great events now for so long.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I can't say enough about the Eastern Market.
Speaker 15: They've been not just a host, but a partner in
Speaker 15: the event started a long time ago with Dan Carmony
Speaker 15: when he was the president.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 11: He approached me and said, hey, Scott, what do we
Speaker 11: gotta do to.
Speaker 15: Get these food events here in the market because they
Speaker 15: bring a lot of flavor and interest and culture and
Speaker 15: that's what the market's all about. So that's when we
Speaker 15: started doing them at Shed five and we've been there
Speaker 15: ever since and they do a phenomenal job of working
Speaker 15: with us, partnering with us. They also have Shed three
Speaker 15: activated with a vintage market so other non food most
Speaker 15: of their non food items are there on Sunday, so
Speaker 15: Shed three will be activated as well, and that's free
Speaker 15: to go to. So if you come down for Taco Showdown,
Speaker 15: you can pop right over to Shed three and check
Speaker 15: out the market as well.
Speaker 11: A couple of other great partners Malagroo, which I have here.
Speaker 15: They've been our key sponsor for the market, the Margarina
Speaker 15: mix off, So love Malager. I really appreciate their support
Speaker 15: every year. Fago is another big sponsor of ours. Yep,
Speaker 15: Fagel has been with us for eight years. We're sponsoring
Speaker 15: both of our food events. So we've had a lot
Speaker 15: of great partners. Team Mobile jumped down this year, a
Speaker 15: Team Mobile there this year.
Speaker 3: And that's how how much do you mean? Like does
Speaker 3: it mean for you to be like so Detroit everything
Speaker 3: like you said, like Fago, you know you've got all
Speaker 3: of these obvious Detroit businesses in the Eastern market, all
Speaker 3: of these partners tying into Detroit and Metro Detroit in
Speaker 3: the city itself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it really.
Speaker 15: Speaks to the city itself and how Detroit comes together.
Speaker 15: You know, it's really a it's like a big high school,
Speaker 15: they say, you know, it's a community.
Speaker 11: We get behind each other, we support each other.
Speaker 15: I think it's one of the unique aspects of of
Speaker 15: Detroit is that it's a city you can start a business,
Speaker 15: you can open a bridge order, where a lot of
Speaker 15: bigger cities it's very difficult. It's it's you know, money
Speaker 15: is a is a huge obstacle, whereas Detroit it's a
Speaker 15: little less of an obstacle.
Speaker 11: And those that have.
Speaker 15: Started businesses before in Detroit know how I'll still still challenging,
Speaker 15: and they get behind each other, support each other, and
Speaker 15: you see that come out in the in the competitions.
Speaker 15: It is a competitive competition. It is a showdown, but
Speaker 15: it's still friendly. You'll see the Taco rea, the places
Speaker 15: that they'll be.
Speaker 11: Talking to each other. They know each other.
Speaker 15: Yeah, they support each other, and that's a that's a
Speaker 15: beautiful part of it.
Speaker 3: That's the wedding.
Speaker 4: Everyone what some of these trophies which what?
Speaker 3: What's which?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 6: So this is the taco trophy right here?
Speaker 15: Okay, So they will all take that back to the
Speaker 15: restaurant and feature it forever. And then this is for
Speaker 15: the best margarita. And we have a two time winner
Speaker 15: coming back.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, So That's what I was gonna say. Is
Speaker 3: it different tequilas. It's like, how does the is it
Speaker 3: the taco places making their margaritas or is it specific
Speaker 3: margarita places.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so the taco places are making their own margarita.
Speaker 15: They have to use Malagro because they're the featured sponsor,
Speaker 15: but they can use Reposodo, they can use it in Naho.
Speaker 11: They can use blancole if they like.
Speaker 15: They have to use all the other ingredients are all
Speaker 15: ingredients from their restaurant that they can make it as
Speaker 15: as as they will. Their garnish can be however they want.
Speaker 15: And then we'll have sample cups. And then you have
Speaker 15: a punch card when you when you come in, you
Speaker 15: go to each of the five different ones, punch your card,
Speaker 15: try all five, and then vote for your favorite.
Speaker 3: Oh that's all. I can't wait. I can't wait. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be such a good time.
Speaker 11: Only five though, only five?
Speaker 3: Only five? Yeah, that's fair, that's fair, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm buying a shot your paper tonight to make a
Speaker 1: bootleg card. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, looking at man. Oh if we have a lot
Speaker 3: obviously of listeners right now and a lot of people
Speaker 3: doing different things that might have their own taco stands
Speaker 3: or something like that. How would they go about kind
Speaker 3: of entering this for next year if they wanted to
Speaker 3: put their taco on the one.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we have an increy forum on our website, okay,
Speaker 15: so they can go on there. And every year it
Speaker 15: seems like we have somebody who, oh I didn't get
Speaker 15: a chance to out this year when they have fought
Speaker 15: the form, and then we'll get them on the list
Speaker 15: for next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely that Like again, I think that's the best part
Speaker 3: is it's much like like the burger Fest was. It's
Speaker 3: places that you've seen places in the area, Places like
Speaker 3: Ali Jum's about his story coming up and basically going
Speaker 3: into that Chake schat can just deboing it and then
Speaker 3: now it's his store. Yeah, and like all of those
Speaker 3: kind of uh, I don't want to say mom and
Speaker 3: pop because it feels a little disrespectful, but just early
Speaker 3: starts that can benefit from something.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 15: Absolutely, And you see a lot of especially in the
Speaker 15: taco world, you'll see family recipes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you'll hear a lot.
Speaker 11: Of these shots.
Speaker 15: Oh for sure to talk about this is our family recipe,
Speaker 15: and it might be l passed or or I've had
Speaker 15: an l past or for it. You haven't had every
Speaker 15: al pastor, right, anyone that's surely has that Mexican pride
Speaker 15: and be like, no, my our family recipe is different.
Speaker 15: And and you taste it, You're like, oh wow, this
Speaker 15: is this has something different about it. There's a little
Speaker 15: pop to it, a little spice to it that's different
Speaker 15: than the ones you have before.
Speaker 11: And you'll see that come out And at the Taco.
Speaker 3: Showtout absolutely, and we've it's starting to smell really good
Speaker 3: in here. We've got Jeff Frankie back there cooking and
Speaker 3: he's hooking it up and then he's gonna come up
Speaker 3: here and explain about you know, what he's got going
Speaker 3: on in that whole situation.
Speaker 6: But I wish we had a trophy for best hat.
Speaker 1: The best hat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would definitely get it. Definitely take that one
Speaker 3: home for sure. He's rocking a lot of Yeah you
Speaker 3: got there?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: And like, what other do you have any other plans
Speaker 3: for any other fests? Like other than Tacos or Burger's
Speaker 3: Donut maybe ice cream fest or something.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 15: I get a lot of you know, ideas from people
Speaker 15: people all the time you should do a shwarma. That
Speaker 15: would be that's been put out there quite a few times,
Speaker 15: and it's something that we are interested in pursuing. And
Speaker 15: I know there's a lot of passionate shwarma makers out
Speaker 15: there stay in any country.
Speaker 6: To do that.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so that's something that we are considering. We've done
Speaker 15: pizza before then that a couple of times. We've had
Speaker 15: talks of maybe bringing that one back as well.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So there's tons of great coney. A coney could
Speaker 11: be a potential.
Speaker 15: Just the food events, I will say, are a ton
Speaker 15: of work put together and then doing it back to back,
Speaker 15: so it really takes up a lot of a lot
Speaker 15: of the summer. But I potentially am interested in maybe
Speaker 15: adding one, you know, next year. We'll see how things go.
Speaker 15: But yeah, there's a lot of great food categories. Yes,
Speaker 15: we have here in Detroit that would easily be highlighted that.
Speaker 1: Will blow up. Yeah, because like Gordo said, it is
Speaker 1: the best state in the country.
Speaker 4: For to even have that type of people from you
Speaker 4: already do but like, yeah, i'd be pretty sick.
Speaker 11: And they all have again their own spin on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exact same thing recipe, absolutely, that type of stuff
Speaker 4: or places I like to go, Like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to go it's like a big conglomerate type of restaurant.
Speaker 4: I want to go to somewhere. I'm tasting the Gramma's talking.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, so I know came from the heart, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know old recipes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like this has been around for a long time
Speaker 4: for a reason, you know, not just it saves us
Speaker 4: the most money or you know whatever maximize the profits.
Speaker 1: It's like real food, genuine food experience.
Speaker 3: How much, like you said, the Burger Fest this is
Speaker 3: the ten year anniversary, the Taco Showdown, this is the
Speaker 3: eight year anniversary. How much have you seen like the
Speaker 3: city of Detroit kind of evolved. Obviously, it's been a renaissance.
Speaker 3: There's a lot more going on in there. They're doing
Speaker 3: a lot of different constructions to kind of spruce up
Speaker 3: the city. But since you've been doing this, how much
Speaker 3: have you seen it grow?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 15: Absolutely, I mean there's been a lot more restaurants that
Speaker 15: have reached out from you know, from year one, and
Speaker 15: a lot more i'd say hyper local, you know places.
Speaker 15: The first couple of years, we did get a few
Speaker 15: places that were a little further out into the suburbs
Speaker 15: because there wasn't as many you know, hyper local like
Speaker 15: we do now.
Speaker 11: So now it's like we get you know.
Speaker 15: Much more variety, and we get a lot more requests
Speaker 15: than we've ever gotten before. And that's a testament to
Speaker 15: how the city has grown, for sure, and how many
Speaker 15: more opportunities have been out there for people to open
Speaker 15: new places.
Speaker 3: That's like I remember because my friend lives downtown and
Speaker 3: like walking back from Lions games and stuff or or
Speaker 3: a night out and it's like two in the morning
Speaker 3: and we've got open like bodegas. Yeah, come on, come
Speaker 3: on up, Jeff, we had like open bodegas in the
Speaker 3: middle of the chart. Wow, it's like an actual city.
Speaker 6: Now, right right, yes, so shut up?
Speaker 1: Do we have this one?
Speaker 3: Work?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: It's I is it? Alright?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Should have a last test test?
Speaker 6: Yeah, test sounds.
Speaker 1: Good, alright. Chef always for him.
Speaker 3: So we have Chef Frankie here, uh giving us some
Speaker 3: of his tacos. He's been working 'em in the back
Speaker 3: the this is your first year doing the uh the
Speaker 3: taco fast on chef.
Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, yes, sir, yes, sir, that in my first year.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 8: We just started a couple of years ago. Uh, just
Speaker 8: doing pop up shops. Uh, little catering here and it.
Speaker 11: Just took off Franky's Kitchen.
Speaker 2: You can follow me on.
Speaker 8: Instagram, TikTok and Facebook and Frankey's Kitchen. Uh underscore Frankie's.
Speaker 4: I yes, okay, now it's taco's the main thing at
Speaker 4: Frankie's or yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we do.
Speaker 8: We do do various things, but right now we're uh
Speaker 8: we're chasing the top of run.
Speaker 5: We're chasing so uh that's what we're.
Speaker 8: Doing right now, uh til we uh.
Speaker 5: Are able to get a cool truck trail.
Speaker 6: And that's how we're gonna appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Gordon. I no, no, you're good. Yeah good.
Speaker 5: I had to split it up. Uh.
Speaker 8: But usually we have chicken wagoo, beef, black bean, impossible,
Speaker 8: shrimp and some occasionally were here and there.
Speaker 9: Hey can you switch 'em to the blue mic just
Speaker 9: to use the blue mic? I yeah, they green mic
Speaker 9: is work.
Speaker 8: So uh, just going over some of the tacos. I'm'a
Speaker 8: feed some of these guys here so they can have
Speaker 8: it fresh. Uh, some of our toppings here for our shrimp.
Speaker 8: We have a mango saucer that we use and something
Speaker 8: that's a little different from a lot of uh traditional
Speaker 8: tacos that are made. We put tip pickles on top
Speaker 8: of We top our our wagle beef and our chicken
Speaker 8: tacos with pickles.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. I am a big pickle gu Uh.
Speaker 3: I am a big pickle guy. So you speak my language.
Speaker 8: Her shut okay, okay, okay. So I'm I'm a symbol
Speaker 8: of some of these tacos right here. I'm'a load 'em
Speaker 8: up the Frankie way. That's how we do it. That's
Speaker 8: how we call it that Frankie's Kitchen. Frank Away. I
Speaker 8: wish my team was here, but we're here. So I'm
Speaker 8: gonna loaf these up and then We're gonna divvy them
Speaker 8: up and we're we're gonna shout down.
Speaker 3: I can't wait.
Speaker 6: All I love that holder Yeah sweet, for sure, for sure?
Speaker 1: No allergies. Good to go, no, good to go.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: That's again.
Speaker 3: This is why I'm excited for this one is the
Speaker 3: variation and the variety that that each different taco UH
Speaker 3: stand is gonna bring.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Frankie's Kitchen. Make sure you guys go
Speaker 3: check them out on all social media. This is gonna
Speaker 3: be his first year participating in the Taco Showdown, so
Speaker 3: first year to make make a name for himself. And
Speaker 3: the pickles on top, Like, who else putting pickles on
Speaker 3: a taco other than chef Frankie.
Speaker 1: I've never heard it before, that signature.
Speaker 3: So, which one of these is your favorite?
Speaker 1: The wagon?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, you cannot go wrong with wago.
Speaker 1: What are the pickles on to come from? Like the
Speaker 1: origin of that?
Speaker 5: Like burgers?
Speaker 3: Like burgers okay, okay, yeah, like green exam oh, green
Speaker 3: eggs and ham is my ships. That's my favorite doctor
Speaker 3: Sis book could.
Speaker 1: Have read it homemade.
Speaker 3: Soul sauce, sauce Soul sauce on the soul.
Speaker 1: Taco tacos. I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: I I love tacos. I literally it's like tacos and
Speaker 3: sushi are my two, my two top foods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so it's funny.
Speaker 4: I told you earlier I don't like like seafood, but
Speaker 4: tacos are the way I'll give it a try, you
Speaker 4: know for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's hop not out that I like shrimp shrimp tacos.
Speaker 1: I think actually was with.
Speaker 4: You, I was with you and Jeff Jake's Yeah, you
Speaker 4: were Jeff order the fish tacos.
Speaker 9: It was Jef Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: They were good.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can't go wrong with the shrimp tacos. I
Speaker 10: mean it's taco tacos, taco bro.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very yeah.
Speaker 6: They are very heavyweight tacos.
Speaker 1: Heavyweight tacos for sure.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: The shells like the shells do. Yeah, these shells are
Speaker 1: I mean you allowed to say, wait, wait your Sunday.
Speaker 11: Okay, So we use a double okay, so I have
Speaker 11: a blend.
Speaker 3: We have we have our.
Speaker 8: Own little We have our own little I have to say,
Speaker 8: our own little style with our tacos. They look on
Speaker 8: the different All the shells are field with cheese. So
Speaker 8: we use two different types of cheeses. I'm not gonna
Speaker 8: tell you what.
Speaker 9: Those cheeses are, but we do use two different types of.
Speaker 3: I love cheese and I love pickles. So this is
Speaker 3: just sounded like a money taco to me.
Speaker 11: We do top them with lime as well.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, lime juice, And I'm gonna hit all of these.
Speaker 3: Got man, got to let's go. Man, how would you
Speaker 3: to get to the Taco Festus year you say you're.
Speaker 11: There, he can tell you. I've been trying to reach out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it was the first one to sign up
Speaker 6: in February.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, So I'm just like we need our shots. Yeah,
Speaker 8: for sure, you're ready to compete.
Speaker 3: I mean what I'm looking at, you're definitely ready to compete.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm excited as though. So this is your first
Speaker 3: year in.
Speaker 1: Now you get the height from the headways coming into
Speaker 1: it too. That's the best way.
Speaker 11: That's perfect way going and then we'll know where we
Speaker 11: really are.
Speaker 1: We'll know where we are. We're staying with everybody.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: Another Scott the website one more.
Speaker 11: Time for the by tickets Tackle showdown dot com.
Speaker 15: You can get the GA tickets entry at one pm
Speaker 15: and then we have the VIP ticket. Skip the line,
Speaker 15: get right in, get early early access to the shafts
Speaker 15: and less lines to wait in at eleven am. That's
Speaker 15: the VIP ticket.
Speaker 3: The VIP ticket will get you in at eleven am.
Speaker 3: And trust me, you're gonna want to get the VIP ticket.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people at the Burger Showdown.
Speaker 3: Those lines got long quick. As soon as the general
Speaker 3: admission door opened, people flooded in it. So so you're
Speaker 3: gonna want to get the VIP ticket, Trust me.
Speaker 1: It's worth it. I cannot wait down there again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so much fun. And that's the thing
Speaker 3: Easy was talking about to the environment that it brings togetherybody,
Speaker 3: everybody's happy, everybody having a good time. You got people
Speaker 3: doing what they're passionate about. You've got people enjoying great food,
Speaker 3: a great environment. Okay, it was a beautiful day the
Speaker 3: last time. It's supposed to beautiful again this weekend. So
Speaker 3: it's it's part of the Detroit summer.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 15: And the cool part about it is the owners of
Speaker 15: the restaurants and the chefs or a lot of times
Speaker 15: are part owners as well. They're there at the events.
Speaker 15: So you don't always get to catch them when you're
Speaker 15: at the restaurant because they're obviously super busy.
Speaker 11: But the owners show up for.
Speaker 15: These events because it means a lot to them, So
Speaker 15: you get a chance to interact with them, talk to
Speaker 15: them about their story, hear about you know, how they
Speaker 15: got started, and that's uh, that's a that's really cool.
Speaker 11: It's really cool. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, chef are ready to go.
Speaker 1: Wag Beef is in the middle, grabs his work.
Speaker 6: Share.
Speaker 1: I'm getting in there.
Speaker 3: Bro Oh my.
Speaker 11: Goodness, breaking breaking in a new desk.
Speaker 3: Breaking in the breaking in the new chair, breaking in
Speaker 3: the new pants.
Speaker 11: Oh my goodness, Joey, send me the cleaning bell.
Speaker 3: These are these are amazing.
Speaker 6: Chris, you want chicken for sure?
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 11: He didn't even hesitate, hesitate, knows what he.
Speaker 9: Wants, live reviews, no bias.
Speaker 11: It doesn't get more live than this.
Speaker 3: These are amazing tacos. I would yeah, please, thank you.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, phenomenal. The sauce is amazing, Thank you, Shelby.
Speaker 3: Just just oh goodness, so the flavors and the shell,
Speaker 3: like you said, with the two different types of cheese
Speaker 3: in there, as.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of that sauce.
Speaker 15: Sometimes the shell doesn't all together, but it seemed like
Speaker 15: it really held together throughout.
Speaker 11: The Yeah, first time it kind of falls apart a
Speaker 11: little bit.
Speaker 1: And thank you.
Speaker 11: So heavyweight's approved.
Speaker 3: Heavyweight, It's approved. Absolutely. I gotta try that. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: gotta try that. Wago, let me get in there. I
Speaker 3: gotta try this guy. Extra pickle on the plate too,
Speaker 3: I'm throwing that on top. I love pickles.
Speaker 1: I love pickles on Tago.
Speaker 3: This is the Wagu.
Speaker 1: Beef Wagon is so good. I'm still eating I haven't yet.
Speaker 15: So we sent Frankie home with the trophy. Now we
Speaker 15: gotta wait, we should We probably should wait.
Speaker 3: Till leader in the clubhouse for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that'll be a little bit biased coming in.
Speaker 3: But it's again, it's the freshness of of of the ingredients.
Speaker 3: You know, we saw him cook them up right here.
Speaker 3: The beef is fresh, all the veggies are fresh. The
Speaker 3: pickles on the top with the extra crunchture of the show.
Speaker 1: You got the o but still crunchy too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And the sauce, I just that's what the that's the
Speaker 4: type of amazing soul sauce.
Speaker 1: Soul soul sauce. My good shout out man, thank you Frankie.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, here we go.
Speaker 6: That's a little different now, alright, alright, that's ready. Yep.
Speaker 1: This room so juicy.
Speaker 3: I think my favorite. I think my favorite was the shrimp. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a shrimp guy. I'm a big seafood guy.
Speaker 1: Ones more like a tropical taste I feel.
Speaker 11: Like with the mango. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 15: Now remember comes Sunday. This is only one one place,
Speaker 15: there's only one You gotta lot bit more to go.
Speaker 11: You gotta handle.
Speaker 3: That ready, ready to go? Yeah, hell yeah, I got stuff.
Speaker 15: And then you wash it down with five market give
Speaker 15: three times preservedly.
Speaker 1: That's what they do it. Yeah, they're giving it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, just want one.
Speaker 15: Yeah, but you can pick which when you want, you
Speaker 15: can go back and have you know, you can go
Speaker 15: back and have others of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's all this again and these events are
Speaker 3: all you can eat. So if if you want to
Speaker 3: get back in line to get another taco and you're
Speaker 3: still there, you can do that if you like. If
Speaker 3: you like Chef Frankie's taco so much you want to
Speaker 3: get in line grab another one of those WAGU tacos,
Speaker 3: you can. It's it's all up to you and Scott Frankie.
Speaker 3: Take you guys so much for coming up, having us
Speaker 3: any time that you need anything like this where we're
Speaker 3: always here to support you, guys. Excited to be there
Speaker 3: this weekend and best of love, Frankie. You're gonna it's
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be tough to to throw in Chef
Speaker 3: Frankie this Sunday, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm coming in the super Bias sling the line.
Speaker 3: So make sure you guys, get definitely the one the
Speaker 3: chat and check that out to get your tickets for
Speaker 3: the Taco showdown this Sunday at Eastern Market, Shed number five.
Speaker 3: VIP tickets you get in an eleven general admission tickets.
Speaker 3: You gotta wait until one, So get those VIP tickets
Speaker 3: while you still can. All right, Chris, where are we
Speaker 3: going here? What do we uh? Should we just go
Speaker 3: to break and then we'll settle the yes that, we'll
Speaker 3: settle the reads in a second. We got we got
Speaker 3: tacos on the mind, Tacos everywhere. Shout out again to
Speaker 3: Freaking's Kitchen Andrew Scott for the taco showed out. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be awesome, tacos all over. We appreciate you guys.
Speaker 11: We'll be right back, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 3: switch between them or hit them both at the same time.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Riley Green for an RBI sack fly
Speaker 3: and then the get the amnesia switch and a dispensary
Speaker 3: near you.
Speaker 4: It's amnesia man. Tiger's updated going on.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Riley Green came up basis jam I can't remember
Speaker 10: his name on the Royals, made a pretty good catch
Speaker 10: and this one's going to damn it all right, two outs,
Speaker 10: one on, two on for the Tigers right now, Tiger's
Speaker 10: up one nothing bottom of the first. Yeah, those Isaac
Speaker 10: Collins that made a pretty impressive catch. But trek school
Speaker 10: right now is a man pozzast shout out. That first
Speaker 10: inning was leap, that was just what do you do?
Speaker 6: What you do?
Speaker 3: Could be potentially could be Schooble's last start in Detroit.
Speaker 10: Eleven pitches thrown in his first and they're wearing the
Speaker 10: Orange jerseys and they have the like the anniversary Old
Speaker 10: English or it's not Old English but just.
Speaker 9: Like the D different d. Yeah, it's sweet that combo
Speaker 9: with the Orange jerseys that.
Speaker 3: I, uh, mail bag, How fast can Sean switch up?
Speaker 3: If the Tigers get back to five hundred for real?
Speaker 9: Oh that one dropped?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: How you lee?
Speaker 9: One run single lined sharply in the center.
Speaker 3: Let's go, Let's go. How you lee, man, he's been
Speaker 3: he's been hitting the back, are you don oh man?
Speaker 1: Sorry? I got him clean up some mind.
Speaker 20: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Shout out again to our guy chef Frankie from Frankie's Kitchen.
Speaker 3: Make sure you go follow him on all social media's
Speaker 3: it's Frankie with an I E. Uh, it is Frankie's
Speaker 3: Kitchen with an I E. Frankie's I E. S Kitchen.
Speaker 3: Go follow him on all social media. Is because that
Speaker 3: taco was that the soul sauce is so good, taste
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 1: Make you want to slap yo mom and again, hey mom.
Speaker 3: Pickles on a taco?
Speaker 4: Man like, yeah, yeah that before, no complaints, Yeah, different
Speaker 4: type of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the beauty of a taco. You could do
Speaker 3: it anyway, you know. You could do the old fashioned
Speaker 3: way and then in the classic way, or you could
Speaker 3: put your spin on it and it's still gonna be good.
Speaker 3: And Frankie put his spin on it with soul sauce.
Speaker 3: Put that spin with the pickles.
Speaker 6: That man, that was incredible.
Speaker 1: All right, mail bag, get the questions. Oh damn, real quick, I.
Speaker 9: Think TF Sauce had a super chat in there about
Speaker 9: one piece for you spinning.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, gotta read that one. Uh yeahf sauce
Speaker 3: with the super chat spinning. Do you read the scans
Speaker 3: for one piece or do you wait for the official
Speaker 3: on Sunday the scans drop to day in the next
Speaker 3: few chapters will be fire bro. I wait for the
Speaker 3: officials on Sunday, I do Chris Oh, I wait for
Speaker 3: the officials on Sunday for those to drop.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean I could definitely, you know, read the scans,
Speaker 3: but I like supporting my goat oda uh no, But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean this whole arc has been insane and I've
Speaker 3: seen I don't know if it was spoilers or like
Speaker 3: fan theories that I saw online, but I mean something crazy.
Speaker 3: He's gotta happen. That last chapter was nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe they did the fucking thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Loofy died check it out way to spoil
Speaker 3: Do you think Loofy died?
Speaker 1: He's gonna come back?
Speaker 3: Everyone knows mail Bag which coordinator do you have more
Speaker 3: confidence in Shep or Petsing.
Speaker 4: Petsing Petsing, Yeah, think with one stopping up there with
Speaker 4: a fucking bazooka. Yeah, gotta fucking AKA the weaponry is
Speaker 4: a little bit different on the offense side of the ball.
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, pets and I think Petsy cooked last
Speaker 4: year in Arizona.
Speaker 1: It did a little bit of nothing.
Speaker 3: He did so chef Patsy mail bag over on over
Speaker 3: under on wipes needed late tonight, I mean, no more
Speaker 3: than usual. It was like I said, it was all
Speaker 3: fresh ingredients. He saw you put it together.
Speaker 1: And that's something you know you're gonna be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 6: That's actually the actual frust. That felt real.
Speaker 1: Food and the craziest thing. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: Odyssey because I actually actually filmed the things in real life.
Speaker 1: It made it better. Same with food.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're getting like real food.
Speaker 1: You know, you're getting like it's gonna be a better experience.
Speaker 3: They never you know, they say you never want fo Yeah,
Speaker 3: you never wanted to see how your food's made, unless
Speaker 3: it's some good food and you want to see how
Speaker 3: it's made exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it was.
Speaker 3: It was like it's like a crescendo, Like as he
Speaker 3: came in here, he started eating up the meats and stuff.
Speaker 3: I started smelling good in here. He brought everything up here,
Speaker 3: started putting together. My mouth started watering and then the
Speaker 3: soul sauce on top and it's a wrap.
Speaker 1: So I want to smoke. But this is a good question.
Speaker 4: Kjo Bay has mail bag. Will Neil Definn Duran for
Speaker 4: wanting sixty million?
Speaker 1: You better not. Nobody can defend him for that.
Speaker 21: You will, he will, But I mean, yeah, the Durance stuff,
Speaker 21: I'm just I'm very biasing because I'm just pissed off
Speaker 21: at this point.
Speaker 6: It's frustrating.
Speaker 3: It is frustrating.
Speaker 1: What's what's contract situation? More frustrating trek Schools or.
Speaker 10: Jalen Durance Jalen Durance because it's like just pure idiocy.
Speaker 10: It feels like like Schooble. There's like appreciate.
Speaker 6: Sunday.
Speaker 3: Make sure you guys come out Sunday and check out
Speaker 3: Frank's kitchen. Fourth tent on the left. Tell them the
Speaker 3: heavyweight sent you.
Speaker 1: Shout out to chef Frank.
Speaker 6: Go ahead.
Speaker 10: But like with Jalen Durrance situation, it's like nobody's paying
Speaker 10: you more like what you're asking. I like it feels
Speaker 10: like like smoke another one.
Speaker 9: Duran.
Speaker 10: I don't know what the hell is going on in
Speaker 10: his head. But with Terrek Scooble. He's the best thrower
Speaker 10: of the baseball on planet Earth, so he deserves what
Speaker 10: he obviously what he's owed.
Speaker 9: So it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: And that's a much easier problem to solve. Make him
Speaker 1: the highest paid.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then Larkin, I feel similar to I don't
Speaker 10: know Larkin. It was like fifty on Stevie, fifty on Larkin.
Speaker 10: I just didn't like the situation in general. Now that
Speaker 10: there's no Stevie, that changes a little.
Speaker 1: Talking about that him screening and red wing stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Hughes brothers. Yeah, it was a pr
Speaker 3: move to show he's not actually as fat as he
Speaker 3: looked in that picture.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I like, I said that in a mean way, but
Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent like he.
Speaker 1: I thought the photo was digitally altered.
Speaker 3: There was one, but the one where he's looking insanely
Speaker 3: fat was definitely digitally altered.
Speaker 1: But the video, yeah, ok, the video that posted he was.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got the beer gut going for sure,
Speaker 3: and you know the bird arms and the bird chest,
Speaker 3: but he uh, I mean, I don't think anybody actually
Speaker 3: thinks he's like out of shape or anything.
Speaker 10: Like Scooble is so disgusting. Dude, you strike somebody else out. Yeah,
Speaker 10: it was a curveball. He literally like swung out of
Speaker 10: his shoes.
Speaker 9: Made him look like an idioto.
Speaker 6: I wanted to say that the I totally disagree with
Speaker 6: with the in being a more like headache or more
Speaker 6: of a nuisance than the schooble thing, because to me,
Speaker 6: the most frustrating thing on earth is when you have
Speaker 6: no cap space and you have clearly the best in
Speaker 6: the league, Like, just pay him, point blank, end it.
Speaker 6: There is no discussion. There is no variable with Duran.
Speaker 6: There's okay, there's some there's arguments of upside, there's this,
Speaker 6: there's that, there's a lot, there's a lot more variables.
Speaker 6: It is quite point blank period, very simple. You have
Speaker 6: no cap and you have the best picture in baseball,
Speaker 6: Go sign him. It will be unexcusable if he walks,
Speaker 6: like flat out, there will be if Jalen, If Jalen
Speaker 6: Durrant takes a qualifying offer and walks, We're not killing
Speaker 6: Trajan for it. No, We're saying that Trader did what
Speaker 6: he needed to do. Thank god he didn't overpay him
Speaker 6: and they crippled the franchise. Like, there is no overpaying
Speaker 6: in crippling the franchise. If in in baseball where there's
Speaker 6: no salary cap.
Speaker 3: That is kind of what I mean, they're gonna have
Speaker 3: a salary you think. So yeah, there they're uh, they're
Speaker 3: having negotiations. I think at the end of this season,
Speaker 3: like their contract is up and they're going to discuss
Speaker 3: like salary cap, and that's gonna be this bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it might be like there might be another lockout because
Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know how you can do that, like, oh,
Speaker 3: are all of the contracts already signed, you know, just
Speaker 3: grandfathered in. But that's what they did with chewing tobacco.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's as easy with hundreds of
Speaker 3: billions of dollars.
Speaker 6: So you'd think there will be a salary cap on baseball.
Speaker 3: For sure, some kind. It's some way.
Speaker 6: After the Dodgers did their needs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dodgers bought three championships in a row, and
Speaker 3: they will be the They will be the only team
Speaker 3: outside of the Yankees to three peet in Major League
Speaker 3: Baseball history.
Speaker 1: Unless the Detroit Tigers could stop.
Speaker 3: Unless I believe Tigers are a team of destiny. James Outman,
Speaker 3: do you believe well, that'll do it for us. Today
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