Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong
with Molly Hemingway and David Harsani. Just as a reminder,
if you'd like to email the show, please do so
at radio at the Federalist dot com. We'd love to
hear from you. So, Molly, we have a new vice
presidential candidate for the Democratic Party, Tim Walls. Did you
know that he ice fishes and hunts, and he's just
exactly like you and me and Middle America.
Speaker 2: It does seem like what the corporate media I think
would pass for a normal guy, like as part of
a it's part of a shtick, Like nobody thinks he's
a normal guy. But I feel like the media think
they can present him as a normal, average American who
supports BLM riots destroying his cities and fell in voting
and open borders and abortion literally all the time at
any point that anyone might want it for any reason,
And they are like, yeah, that's going to work in
Middle America. And it's more a comment on the regime,
you know, the media, the leaders of the Democrat Party
than anything else in my view.
Speaker 1: So I was reading this, you know, I was reading
all the stories when when he was was was named
or when it leaked. But by the way, the media
has become such a blob of lockstep being kind of
writing that almost every story was the same. So it
doesn't even really it's not even really worth reading all
these outlets. But here's what happened. I saw that one
place had said had noted that he had a folk
seed demeanor. Then I noticed that another place said he
had a folk seed demeanor. Then I find found five
other places, other completely different outlets, major news outlets, that
said he had a folksy demeanor. And then I saw
one that said he had a folksy manner and folksy
appeal and folksy mannerisms. He's a folksy former soldier, a
folksy governor of Minnesota, folks see and relatable like folks see.
And then he then they talked about his folksy rebukes
and his folksy plane spoke in sharp tongue approach. I
found over twenty four instances with the word folksy was
used to describe Tim Walls, And I went back and
then I read the stories describing JD. Vance, which framed
him as this dour sort of kind of fraud who
once ate a Trump but now was a zealous soldier
in his army.
Speaker 3: And all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's just so transparent that I, you know, I
don't even know what to say about it anymore.
Speaker 2: But okay, there's there are two issues in play. One,
the corporate media really are incredibly powerful. What gets talked
about is what they want to talk about. So the country,
the whole world is on fire right now. You have
wars either being engaged or breaking out all over the world.
You have no idea who is president and what their
state of functionality is. You have no idea what the
vice president's state of functionality is. You have the economy crashing,
you have inflation having been horrible for years. You have
a completely open border. You have a crime wave that's
not just besieging Americans, but they've made it in democrat
run cities and states where you don't report crimes. So
there's not even like a good handle on what the
nature of the rising crime rates are. They're actually like, no,
you're wrong, crime rates are going down because we told
people to stop talking about it. I mean, like, across
the board, what our corporate media should be talking about
is all of these things. Instead they're like, we did
a vibe check on Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz and
they're great, and it's like worst. So it's really powerful
what they're doing, and it's really unnerving what they're doing.
But you are right. I do think there's a reason
why trust and corporate media is at all time lows,
But that doesn't change the fact of how much power
they continue to have.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that at all.
Speaker 1: They set the agenda for our debates and there's almost
nothing you can do about it because they are so omnipresent,
so powerful, and so.
Speaker 3: Eloaded.
Speaker 1: Right, they're rich, they have immense reach. So yeah, we're
talking about what they want to The best we can
do is to push back. You know, with Tim Walls,
it's just very odd. Well, first of all, I think
we should talk a little. Let's just talk about him.
Then I want to talk about the pick itself and
Jos Shapiro. So he exudes this Middle American esthetic, but
there is no nothing about his positions. I mean, I'm
not I'm not going to say there aren't any there
aren't any socialists in Middle America, or that even some
rural people aren't socialistm. You know, there is a tradition
of that, but he certainly does not align with the
values of when you think about Middle America. I mean
he is when that when when when writers were destroying
Minneapolis and by the way, destroying minority neighborhoods in Minneapolis,
and you know, the mayor was begging him to call
in the National Guard. He said, I will not patronize
you as a white man without living your lived experiences
to the to the camera. That's not how a normal,
average American speaks. No one thinks like that other than
some politicians and people in universities.
Speaker 2: Did you hear his wife Winnie Mandela. Yeah, it was
like talking about about the importance of like murdering people
with top.
Speaker 3: She was a terrible, terrible person, but yeah.
Speaker 2: And Waltz's wife said that she could smell the tires
burning when they were burning down businesses and killing people
as part of the BLM riots, and that she kept
her windows open as long as she could so that
the wafts, you know, that the smell would waft in.
And I'm like, that's psychopathic, Like that's so what normal
person in the middle of a riot where your husband
could actually do something to help save lives and you know,
stop some of the two billion dollars in damage that
was done by this radical Marxist group. What normal person says.
And then I kept the windows open so I could
smell everybody dying and having their businesses destroyed and having
people flee not just the city but the state because
of the horrible governance. Like that's insane, and the media
are like, oh, we like them, they're so normal.
Speaker 1: A lot of leftists got you know, up over their
skis when that whole BLM thing was going on. I
don't I think that backfired on a lot of them.
Obviously he's one of them, hopefully. He's just terrible on
so many levels. Like you mentioned the abortion position he made,
you know, not that he can without the Supreme Court,
but he signed a bill that made abortion a fundamental
right into the ninth month or after sometimes actually you know,
and yeah, yeah, it's up until birth.
Speaker 2: And then he also did this thing where people had
to report if they were leaving children to die if
they survived abortions, and he changed it so that they
don't have to report that anymore. But in the year
that it was on, there were five including two who
were just straight up left for dead, like two were.
One had abnormalities leading to death, two were born in
an arguably pre viable state, but two were just left
for dead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's murder, and we should also mention he wants
to socialize medicine. He wants to eliminate all fossil fuels
within less than ten years now. He signed laws giving
health care intuition free to illegal aliens and driver's licenses
to illegal aliens. He also should talk about signed a
bill that made his state a sanctuary state for doctors
who want to mutilate kids with gender dysphoria.
Speaker 3: Right, it is.
Speaker 1: You know, these are not mainstream positions. These are fringe
left wing positions, and there is not a fringe left
wing position you can get away with is in this
country that he has not taken.
Speaker 3: Not one exists.
Speaker 2: I just want to say it's worse. He also made
it so that if you are a parent and your
child is mentally unwell, thinks they are different sex and
you don't provide the genital mutilation or sterilization and surgery
that they want, you can have the child taken away
from you.
Speaker 3: He also signed that's so normal.
Speaker 2: I think Midwesterners are going to love that.
Speaker 3: What do you think they may if they don't know?
Speaker 1: I mean, like we said, you know, I don't know
how much of this information filters out to people.
Speaker 3: Hopefully it does.
Speaker 2: Also, this is the guy who provided tampons in boys'
bathrooms because, as his lieutenant governor said, some boys men
straight or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Party of Science.
Speaker 1: And there's another part of this that people haven't really
been talking about. But Minnesota is incredibly poorly governed since
he's the Governor's a string of scandals, all kinds of
fiscal mismanagement. I think that matters as well to some extent,
though it's not as powerful and political messaging.
Speaker 2: Are you referring to, for example, the corruption in the
Feed the Children program? Yeah, we're like some unbelievable amount
of money was taken by bad actors and he did
nothing about it. And he said, oh, I kind of
thought other people were supposed to do something about it,
Like he knew about it, and he just put the
blame on other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's not forget that he's the one who
set up a snitch line during COVID to essentially prosecute
people who were breaking these arbitrary authoritarian rules that he
implemented in his state. I think many of them without
any kind of you know, bill or anything, just complete
executive orders.
Speaker 2: So on that when he gave his acceptance speech from
being selected by the woman who received no elect no
votes and yet has become the nominee, he said, you know,
weren't the people who just think you should be able
to live your lives however you want to. And it's
like you set up a snitch line during COVID where
neighbors ratted out other people for things like playing basketball.
Tell me again about how you want people to live
their own lives. He opened up bars and tattoo parlors
before he let people worship God. Tell me again about
how you're all about you know, let me and live
their own lives?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mind you, he said, you know, my you know,
in Minnesota, we let people mind their own business, you know,
or you know, we tell everyone minds your own business,
except when they want to pick their healthcare, except when
they want to pick their school, except when they want
to go to church, except like every part of your life.
The incredibly high levels of regulation that he imposes on businesses.
There you know people are fleeing. That state. Used to
be a really great place to live. People used to
want to go to Minnesota. I don't know why it's
so cold up there.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Can I say one great thing about Minnesota?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Prince, oh my gosh, replacements.
Speaker 2: Hohoscer do time the time, also very Loch the time.
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan's from Minnesota. I mean, there's there's a lot
of great music in Minnesota over the years. I was
just kidding.
Speaker 2: I would to say on that though I like Minnesota.
I have a lot of friends who live in Minnesota.
Or did You're right, that's kind of become a hostile place.
But when was the literally I'm not sure about this,
When was the last time a Republican won that state?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: My point just being usually you know, you're so. I
even would like to have a little talk about the
comparison between Trump choosing Vance and Harris choosing Waltz. So
I firmly believe, and I wish it weren't the case.
I firmly believe that who you pick for vice president
generally doesn't matter. You know, people like to blame them
or credit them, but really, people are voting for the
present cidential candidate, not the not the VP. But I
read this thing from I forget their names. I get
this newsletter that these people write, and they were talking
about how the Waltz pick and the Hair and the
Vance pick were the same pick because they did not
show ideological diversity. But I do not view them as
the same pick. And I would like to just, you know,
lightly explain why picking Vance, who is this much more
intellectual future version of the America First kind of movement
showed that Trump wanted this legacy to not just be
about him, but to keep going and to build after
his second term is over. And yeah, he doesn't need
Ohio to win, but it really shows it shows that
this like, if there's one person who really embodies, particularly
of the people who he was considering, who embodies the
message of that America First philosophy that Trump has kind
of forced on the Republican Party, it would be Vance.
With Harris picking Waltz, there is no future there because
he's like as old as she is. I think they're
both sixty, is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's still out to twenty years in politics.
If we if we're looking at.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's a good point. I don't think
people see Waltz as being someone who has a future,
like a large future beyond vice president. Vice president is
as probably as good as it's going to get for him,
and it probably won't even get there for him.
Speaker 3: I agree, But I used to think the same thing
about Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I was like, vice president's
the tops for him during the administration.
Speaker 2: But yeah, back to the media, I think they're so
powerful they can they can install whomever they want, you know,
and so I if Waltz is the person, they will
make Waltz the But Kamala Harris is tied in the
polls roughly with Trump, and this is actually a few
points better than Biden was. Biden was actually below Trump
in the polls. But I do think you need that
context that generally speaking, polls tend to overstate Democrat support.
So like ten or four years ago, Trump was down
ten points in the polls and the election ended up
being about to tie. Right. Yeah, So being tied right
now means that Kamala has some work cut out. First,
certainly within the realm of possibility, particularly with the regime
media being willing to run her campaign for her, But
she should have, in my view, picked someone who would
have cut into where Trump is strong and picking the
governor of Minnesota, a state that I cannot remember when
the last time Republicans won, and just you know, the
thing I'm thinking of right now is in nineteen eighty
four when Reagan ran against Mondale, Minnesota was the only
state that Mondale won. And yes he was from Minnesota.
But that's how unwilling to vote Republican they are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, So it doesn't really left wing tradition
there for sure.
Speaker 2: And even in Wisconsin, which has a huge progressive movement
as well, they don't. They viewed Minnesota. It doesn't like
translate to Wisconsin being like, yeah, we like Minnesota, we
think they're great. They tend to think they're even more
extreme than they are. So I just don't think it
was a hugely strong pick. It seemed like she every
Republican I know breathed a huge sigh of relief when
she picked Waltz, every single one. They were almost giddy.
They were like so thankful she didn't pick Shapiro, who
is an incredibly popular Democrat governor of a state. She
needs to win, or pretty much needs to win. There
are ways she can win without having Pennsylvania, but that
would be a huge, huge factory for her. And they
were scared of him because he's super competent, super politically astute,
like he basically is Obama. He sounded like Obama and
his speech introduced him, and she didn't pick him. In
Progressives like the radical left of the Democrat Party were
thrilled and elated with Waltz, which again shows how not
middle of the road he is, despite what the corporate
media are saying. But so were Republicans, and both of
them didn't want Shapiro for exactly the opposite reasons. The
radical art of the party didn't want Shapiro because of
his support for Israel is how they would say it,
but it kind of seems just like they don't like
him for being Jewish, whereas Republicans didn't want Shapiro because
they thought he could be a really effective candidate. But
the fact that she chose Waltz, I think it was
about not wanting to be upstaged by someone who can
string sentences together and who can think his way out
of a paper bag, and she wanted someone who was
like about as dumb as she is. No offense to
either of them, but they're certainly not They're not the
brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
Speaker 1: No offense, you drooling idiots. Yeah, no, I think maybe
that was part of it. I definitely Listen, No one's
going to convince me that this didn't have to do
have something to do with him being Jewish. I just
don't believe it. He is the popular governor of Pennsylvania.
He is competent. He you know, all those positions Kamal
is trying to walk back now, he's already moderated those
over years as Walls has taken all those positions. So
you know, I think the upside for Walls is that
he can be an attack dog in a way that
maybe Shapiro wouldn't be, because he probably has a better
chance at running for the presidency himself in the future
and things like that. But you know, you saw who
was celebrating. You saw who was celebrating the AOC, Bernie
sand every anti Semite out there on the left was
celebrating Walls. So it's I think it had something to
do with it. I also believe, and you're right that
she would have been upstaged by him, and that's a
big problem. You don't the vice president is a kind
of do no harm pick, And if you have someone
next to you who's more respected, who's more articulate, who
is more charismatic, that's a big problem.
Speaker 2: Actually, I think when Trump picked Pence, I am long
on the record of not liking Pence for how he
handled riff Rah the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana
when he was governor. But I understood the wisdom of
the pick because Trump was having problems reassuring Christian Conservatives,
who are a huge part of his base if he's
going to win, and so he picked Mike Pence. That
made sense. How does picking like Kamala Harris is already
far and away the most radical left person on a
major party ticket to run for president. She does not
need to shore up her progressive base. Picking someone who's
like an as dumb version of her progressivism doesn't really
do anything, does it? Like I actually think he's a
white guy. Well, sorry, no, no.
Speaker 1: I think you're I think it's the same. It reminds
me of the Biden pick. You're trying to pick someone
who will say whatever you want him to say, basically,
he exudes he's coded to look like a moderate because
he's a middle aged white dude, right that that is
the reason you pick him.
Speaker 3: My thing is it.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have been a choice between Shapiro and w Is
there a lot of other people out there she could
have picked to help her in places she needs help with.
So I think it's a bad pick. Honestly, I think
the Vance pick was a maybe. If I concede all
the things you say about him, he's a good pick
when you know you're ahead. I'm not sure that that
would be the same pick right now for Trump. Once
Kamala came into the race, it was definitely.
Speaker 2: A pick made at a moment of strength, and he
had power, and he took it because everyone in the
Republican Party had wanted in terms of the people who
run the Republican Party, they wanted him to pick like
someone who was more friendly to their foreign policy, and
he didn't, and it was it was definitely like a
ballsy pick that showed strength. That's kind of what I'm saying.
Kamala's pick did not suggest I don't know, like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what it suggests. I just think it's a
bad decision if there.
Speaker 2: Was a reason to. Maybe maybe hers is a like
maybe this is a sign of strength, Like she knows
she's going to win. They've got the ballot, Harvard sing down,
and they are going to like once and for all,
turn America into Venezuela.
Speaker 1: By the way, people should not kind of quickly say
people should not underestimate Walls. Though I've watched him a
little bit. I mean, he could be good in a debate,
you know, he's not. I'm not saying he's a bright guy,
but he's a very aggressive guy. And I'm just saying, people,
I don't like when people underestimate politicians who were governors.
They win states. It's not like, you know, they have
some talent in politics. I just think so.
Speaker 2: So Steve Karnaki and Tom Bevin, who are kind of
both polling experts with is that his name, Steve Karnaki,
I think that's right. Yeah, we're both, I think yeah.
They were both saying that, yes, Waltz won as a
governor of a state that reliably votes Democrat, but he
didn't do it with overwhelming support. He basically crushed it
in the crazy left counties and then lost all the
other counties. So he won like just a few, you know,
highly populous counties where the city's burned and stuff, and
then he lost everything else. It's not like he has
appeal to the type of voter who's outside of Minneapolis St. Paul,
you know, yeah, I mean they're all trands there.
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty I actually sure Clinton picked al Gore,
you know, to help him in, but he didn't need
to win that state to win the election. What I
mean is, I think Walls can be someone that you're
trying to entice people in Pennsylvania, rural Pennsylvania, trick them
into believing he's some sort of moderate, moderating person, you know,
has a moderating effect on Kamala.
Speaker 2: Speaking of how moderate his last week, he was on
TV saying, you call it socialism, I call it neighborliness, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Can we also talk about another aspect of this? And
I don't love doing this sort of thing because I
did not serve in the military, and he did. He
was in the National Guard. As soon as he was
going to be deployed to Iraq, he quit the National Guard.
All right, that's one thing, you know, take that for
what it is. But then I see a video, yeah,
yesterday of him going off on guns, lying about guns.
He's terrible on that issue as well, saying that when
he was in war. I don't know the exact thing
he said, but something like, when I was in war,
I carried these weapons. They don't belong on the streets. Well,
he was never in war. That is stolen valor. I
looked up as many definitions as I can of veterans
groups saying that you served during wartime and not having
served as stolen valor. I think it's a pretty big issue.
That would have sunk almost sunk someone's camp. It would
have sunk someone's campaign maybe twenty years ago. I mean,
that's what the whole George W. Bush dan ratherthing was about.
But with Blumenthal or whatever his name is in Connecticut
and others, it doesn't seem to matter as much. But
I think that's an issue that Vance, a marine, volunteered
and went there right has is a pretty strong good
issue there to dunk on the guy.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I noticed again that the corporate media were praising Vance's
military service, even as they have barely mentioned Vance enlisting
as a marine.
Speaker 3: You would have thought he was he landed in D Day.
He was a soldier.
Speaker 1: It's like literally in every lead of every story, and
then when I looked at the vance story, so it
was buried somewhere in the story that he was a
marine who volunteered.
Speaker 2: With Well, it's actually I think worse than what you say.
I've been reading a little bit about it, including you know,
he did serve in the National Guard. When his group
was set to deploy after nine to eleven, he dropped out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, but it was
like two thousand and six, I believe his deployment or
something like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, he lost the fercatist that he'd had, like they
revoked it. Like it's not I will just say we
started getting and I'm sure you did to a ton
of emails from military people who were saying that this
was sort of their least favorite type of military person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was bumped down because he didn't go. So
what he did was in twenty two thousand and six,
I believe he decided he was going to run for Congress.
Speaker 3: He was deployed to Iraq. He didn't do it.
Speaker 1: They bumped him down to whatever rank and then he
retired at the lower rank. But yet his campaign, which
he seems to be running now as well, was to
frame himself as a you know, just assault of the earth,
middle American veteran who you know, was a soldier. But
a lot of the folks in Minnesota. I watched one
little documentary on the man who took his place and
went to Iraq with the National Guard, who was like,
you can't He's like, I could have quit too, but
I didn't because we can't have everyone joining and just
quitting when it gets you know, when it's tough. Now again,
I always feel a little weird about this. I didn't serve.
I respect people who do, but that doesn't mean that
we can't talk about the truth here. And the truth
is that when he had to go, he quit and
he ran for Congress instead, where he has a terribly
had a terrible liberal, you know, far left wing record.
I did want to go back to one thing on
Shapiro that made me laugh, so Vance pointed out that
if it's not Shapiro, it's probably anti Semitism. I think
he's right on that. So everyone including what's that Congressman Kissinger.
Speaker 2: Crying Adam Kinsinger.
Speaker 1: Kinsinger says, when was the last time Republicans had a
Jewish vice presidential candidate, can you tell me you know,
because he's saying Lieberman, he's talking about Lieberman. Well, Briman
was kicked out of the Democratic Party. He had to
leave that party. There is zero chance he would be
on the top of a ticket today. There is zero
chance anyone who is Jewish would be on the top
of the ticket unless they denounced and renounced their Judaism
in a Bernie Sanders sort of way. Shapiro, you know,
he's had a very nice thing. He said the other
yesterday he said, you know, I'm proud of my faith and.
Speaker 3: All that, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Two days before he was debasing himself, basically trying to
unjew himself, you know, and I can say this is
a Jew myself, I think, I mean, I hate what
people say as a Jew, so I'm going to take
that back.
Speaker 3: But people tell me, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Now there's reports in political I saw that he had
taken himself out of the running. I don't believe that
for a second. I don't believe it, because this weekend
he was out there, you know, apologizing for his positions
on Israel. There is no way that he wasn't running
for the VP spot there. This is just all face
saving stuff anyway. So well, I think this is good,
by the way, for Jews, because I don't want him
on a ticket with Kamala Harris. A. I think it's
good for him because if he wants to run in
twenty twenty eight, he can without being connected to these
hardcore leftists, you know, if they lose. So I think
for him it's good. I think for the Jewish American
community it's good. I think it's good for everyone except
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2: Did you see the CNN panel where different CNN hosts
were talking about how they didn't like Shapiro because he
was Jewish basically, and then Jewish Jake Tapper keeps on
kind of like pointing out to them how awful they
sound and also how like how unfair they're being. You know,
they're like, well, we couldn't pick Shapiro because of his
position on Israel, and he's like, he has the same
exact position on Israel as Tim waltzs and they're like yeah,
but he came out and like protested. He said that
the protests were anti Semitic and Tapper's he only said
that about the ones that were anti Semitic, and like
they were happening in his state, so he should have,
you know, like and they they were all sort of
like trying to get around this problem that they didn't
like Shapiro for being Jewish. Someone say that, oh sorry.
Speaker 3: But no, no, So he's trying to gently guide them
away from being complete anti semis but didn't early work.
Speaker 2: It takes a lot, like a lot lot for me
to feel bad for Jake Tapper because he's so much
a propagandist. But I was thinking that has got to
be tough to work with people who are just being
that way, knowing who were being so anti Semitic, knowing
that you're Jewish, Like.
Speaker 1: There was a Yeah, there's a lot of euphemistic language
going on in the media about like why Shapiro wasn't picked,
And you know, it's clear to me.
Speaker 3: I said it before that it's his name.
Speaker 2: Because someone pointed out that if Shapiro were chosen and
you had that sort of obligatory here's the presidential nominee
and their spouse and the vice presidential nominee and their spouse,
it would have been three Jews on stage with Kamala
Harris and that she probably felt that was too much
to keep her.
Speaker 1: I hate that we have to talk speak that way.
We wouldn't say that about you know, through Catholics or something.
But yeah, I mean I think that that's true.
Speaker 2: Though. Speaking of spouses, yes, oh boy, there was a
story that that Kamala Harris's husband, Doug em Hoff, admitted
to that he had stopped the nanny of his children,
breaking up his marriage. That's the part that he admits
to the party has not spoken to yet is that
he impregnated her and that she like quote unquote, didn't
keep the baby. I don't think we know yet whether
that means the baby was killed, whether the baby was
the the option plan was made for the baby, or
you know, like what exactly happened. But the thing that
makes this so interesting to me is that Kamala Harris
has made her husband the point man on toxic masculinity
and abortion. And I cannot think of a worse person
than someone who not just destroyed his family, but like
destroyed everything. You know, it's a horrible thing to cheat
on your spouse, ending your marriage, but to do it
also with the person who's in a position of trust
for your children has got to psychologically destroy them, you know,
for decades. And I hate that phrase toxic masculinity. I
actually don't view any of this as actual masculinity. But
if you accept the you know, those propaganda terms from feminists,
is there a worse example than someone who did something
like this to his own children, to his own wife,
to his own community, because she was not just the nanny,
but the teacher at the very elite school they were
sending their kids to. I mean, it's just mo refying.
Speaker 1: Remember these are the same people who make fun of
Mike Pence because he won't be in a room with,
you know, someone who a woman who is in his
wife and so on, which I think is probably a
good practice in a way if you're you know whatever, Listen.
I just want to give not one for life advice,
you know that, But I think I can give some advice.
I'm just saying that, having read a lot of books
about celebrities and politicians, I think it's very important that
when you hire a nanny for your children that they
be a little bit maybe older, a little bit, you know.
I don't think you should be hiring these attractive young
women to be nannies in your home. I'm just saying,
you're asking for trouble. Is that wrong to say?
Speaker 2: I think you were going there. I mean, I don't know.
We had we had when we were so poor, we learned.
We hired someone to help us off of Craigslist. I'm
not recommending that you find childcare off of craigslist. But
I loved this woman so so much, absolutely beautiful inside
and out, so good with our children. She was helping
out a few hours a day, a few days a week,
and Savannah such a wonderful, wonderful and gorgeous, and it
was did not appear to be a problem in our marriage.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, but Mark is an exemplary human being.
I'm just saying that if you are a week, we're normal.
Speaker 2: People like you can be if you notice things. But
like I guess I'm saying, is I see what you're
saying about not inviting temptation into your home and stuff
like that. But I actually kind of think that the
whole point of being an adult male or female is
to learn how to resist such temptations. And I've also
noticed that frequently people who cheat are cheating with people
much less attractive than their spouse. And so I don't
think it's always about you know, not beauty being like overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I this is a weird. This is a
weird right term we took here. I admit that. I'm
just saying, if you're the kind of person like the
what's it called, the mister the first gentleman.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, not much of a gentleman, I think, And you.
Speaker 3: Have a weakness, you have a weakness. That's not the
type of nan that you should hire.
Speaker 2: This does remind me also of another thing with Tim Waltz.
So the media we're just so in love with him
and his speech and it was so uplifting and so wonderful.
And one of the things he'd done was take a
really vulgar, disgusting smear against JD Fans Jadevan's father of
young children and a beautiful wife, and repeated it and
then like smirked and said see what I did there.
And the media didn't say like end of democracy. We've
gotten authoritarian on stage making up lies in order to
destroy his political opponent. They were like, ooh, he's feisty.
We like his vibes.
Speaker 3: I mean, Molly Molly, he went there, he went.
Speaker 2: There, he went there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was so despicable, his little smirk after.
I just found it really, you know, disgusting. I don't
like JD. Vance, but he's a father, he was a marine,
he's married, and to repeat that kind of like smear
that was everyone knows who follows these things that was
invented on the internet.
Speaker 3: It's just despicable. So it was. It was enraging. I
hate it. What do you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Jdvance, you're debating Tim Walls, do
you bring it up and say that was despicable or
do you not want to like spread it anymore? What
is the what do you think.
Speaker 2: You should wright? I liked how Mary Catherine Ham handled it.
She basically started making a similar falsehood about Tim Waltz
apparently does intercourse with traffic cones. Did you know that
I do. I'm hearing it all over the place on
Twitter and.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: I'm not recommending anyone engage in such childish things, but
these people really will do anything for power, and it's
really disgusting and growth.
Speaker 1: You know, in the old days, you'd have a candidate
and they'd have some dignity, right, and they'd have their
minions doing all this stuff for them. They wouldn't do
it themselves. But I'm not saying that they were pure
or anything like that. It was ugly then as well,
but now they just they do it themselves and they just.
Speaker 3: Like giggle at it. And you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess this is the folksiness that Tim everyone's talking
about with Tim Walls.
Speaker 3: All right, enough of that. I have a lot of
culture this week.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 3: But are you excited about that?
Speaker 2: Damn? It's super exciting.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I want to say, so last
week you besmirched my character and basically called me unpatriotic
for not rooting for American interests at the Olympics. I
do hate the Olympics, but I said to myself, I'm
going to give it a chance. I'm going to watch
some of the events, and I had a really good time.
I watched archery, I watched swimming, I watch people running.
Rooted for the Americans and it's pretty it was pretty cool.
You know, have you watched any none?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I was. I watched the tiniest little thing.
I was in Colorado. Do you know Buds Bar in Sedalia.
Speaker 3: No, I don't remember anything like that.
Speaker 2: The Great so Sidelia is a very small town in
Douglas County with basically nothing in it, but they have
this bar called Buds Bar, and they have you know,
just normal drinks, very limited menu of drinks, and then
an even more limited food menu. You can have a burger, cheeseburger,
double burger, or double cheeseburger and that's it. No fries.
In fact, their motto is no fries, dang it, but
worse sorry. And we're in there with our kids and
they were showing the Katie Lideki eight hundred meter swim
and my girls really like her, and I think she's
from Northern Virginia or hereabouts somewhere around here. I don't know,
And so they were watching and we were kind of
wondering what would happen. But on the next TV over
there was a chiron that said Lideki wins the eight
hundred meter.
Speaker 3: Gold so like highlights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So one of my kids is like, spoiler alert,
that's funny.
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna say I never even heard of her
before that, like this week, and I was watching some
of her swims pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: I noticed I might be the most winningest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the most goal.
Speaker 2: She has the most goals of any woman.
Speaker 3: The winningest gold medal.
Speaker 2: Get past you her Sonny.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I didn't notice in the Olympics. This is
going to be boring just a second.
Speaker 1: I did notice on when I was younger, like if
you hit thirty, you were like the oldest person at
the Olympics. But now a lot of people keep in
really great shape. They want you know, there's scientific about
their diets, and there are a lot of older athletes
there competing and winning, and that's nice to see as
an older fellow myself.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I watched and went to the movie theater and I
saw Deadpool Versus Wolverine. I absolutely loved it. I'd such
a good time. I thought it was very funny. There's
a lot of inside jokes about you know, Marvel movies
and comics and stuff like series.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I want to say, I was just opening my
mouth and pointing in with my tongue out and I'm
doing this. I'm saying what I'm doing, Like how Kamala
Harris says her pronouncers she her and she's wearing a
blue suit because we got a reader note saying that
when David gets mad at me for my faces, he
should describe the face.
Speaker 3: Oh right, right, yeah, I have to start doing that.
Speaker 2: I hate that self referential stuff. I hate Marvel movies anyway.
Now whole movies find it to be like boring, and well.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give just a slight spoiler.
Speaker 1: Like, so they bring back characters who are kind of
in failed Marvel movies from the nineties and or two
of the aughts and stuff. So like I'm just gonna
give one because it's out there is Elektra, the woman
who was used to be married to Ben Affleck, and
so there's fourth walls breaking to the Jennifer Garner right
is in it, and like Wesley Snipes is Blade, like
they have just it's very funny if you watch these movies,
I think, and there's there are fourth walls come down.
They actually make fun of themselves as actors in it,
and there's a lot of that. And I just want
to tell everyone, you know, how Marvel has these scenes.
They have like a middle of credit scene and then
they have an end credit scene which I always have
to sit there and I'm like a billion people have
anticipated in making this movie. It's like a half an
hour of credits to wait, but I did wait, and
that last scene is the funniest thing in the movie,
so people should stick it out for that. I also
have a very strong recommend, very strong recommend, and it's
a very nice movie. You will like it. It's called
The Peanut Butter Falcon.
Speaker 2: Oh I love Peanut Butter Falcon.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, you saw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was Shiah Labouf and yeah, Dakota Johnson, isn't
it and a young man with down syndrome?
Speaker 3: I think right, it was awesome. Yes, it's it's amazing.
So I love that movie. It's just such a it's
a feel good movie, but just amazing.
Speaker 2: If you liked that movie, have you seen Mud.
Speaker 3: Now with McConaughey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what I mean. Maybe it's because
it's kind of like similar geographic thing, but you might
like that too. For some reason, I put them to.
Speaker 1: I also watched a documentary that's very long of Ennio Marconi,
like my favorite.
Speaker 2: San Enyo Marconi the composer.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so the movies.
Speaker 2: The Mission is one of my favorite soundtracks of all time.
But of course he did so many amazing.
Speaker 3: It has to be over one hundred movies. It has
to be.
Speaker 1: And what was incredible about this it goes back to
his youth. It's a long documentary, but it's so interesting
is that I didn't know he started out, you know,
he was a trumpet player. Then he learned composition and
was a composer. But then he wrote tons of top
ten hits in Italy, just pop songs for all kinds
of singers, and he would just like bang them out
a day of pops and they'd all be like top
ten hits.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: Just an incredibly accomplished person, but just a genius I think.
And he I believe died in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that arc exception of Western movie
music was made by an Italian.
Speaker 3: Totally totally. Yeah. I've been listening. It's he's great. So
that's it for me.
Speaker 2: When I was in Nazareth and went into the cathedral
there above I think maybe they called the Cathedral of
the Denunciation because it's above where Mary received the word
that she would would conceive it embarrassed son. They were
playing Gabriel's Obo when we came in, and I loved that,
which we also play at our church. It's from The Mission.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent soundtrack the Mission. I think he did Russia
House as well, which you were.
Speaker 2: But that composer is also really good. And you know
what's funny is I you know, you know how I
loved that and I told you I watched that recently,
but my husband was making fun of me for loving
that that music so much. And it's Jerry Goldsmith, who
is another very good composer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's like the guy you go to when
you can't get John Williams.
Speaker 3: He's like number two I think so.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I was wrong about that, but yeah, just
tons of tons of tons of films, all different.
Speaker 3: Kinds of styles and anyway, I recommend it if you're
interested in him. It was. It was really well done.
It's on I think it's streaming on Amazon. So did
you watch it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Jerry Goldsmith, Yeah, Gord Star, Trek Movies, Rambo, Logan's Run,
Planet of the Apes, Tora to Tora, Patton, Chinatown, Omen Alien, Poltergeist. Yeah,
reminds Hoo's Yours, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, Air Force One,
La Confidential, Mulan and The Mummy. I mean these are
not nothing films here.
Speaker 1: No, he's like, let me think about this. He's like,
who's the best baseball player? He's like number two. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, technically, Jack Goldsmith has won or been nominated
for far more awards than Ennio Morricone. I do prefer
Ennia Morricony. But I think you're denigrating Jack's Goldsmith. I
don't know why we're fighting about this.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he's number two after John Williams an
American filmmaking So John Williams at Star Wars, Raiders, you
know all those and when you can't get John Williams,
that you get that guy you just mentioned, he's number two.
That's someone saying I don't have anything else. Did you
do any I know you were on a trip. Did
you do anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was in Colorado and I didn't watch anything,
but I had a wonderful, very quick trip. So I
had a special birthday, as we say, and I told
my husband that what I wanted to do was be
in the mountains with my sister, and she agreed, so
she and I and the kids and Mark went up
and we stayed in Salida. Not to be confused, with
Sedalia in Douglas County, Colorado, Solida. Is this like really
up and coming big. I mean, it's like a big
fun place mountain town that's become very popular and is
near Buna Vista, and there's a lot of whitewater rafting.
He stayed at this amazing motel from the fifties that
they had just redone to be kind of stylish but
still super cheap. They had airstream trailers that you could rent.
And I just read in the New York Times yesterday
that fifties style motels are having a big comeback as
younger people like to just you know, walk right into
their room and have a little more personality and stuff.
So Mark was really upset at how mountain towns close
at eight pm. You know. He thinks that they should
be open for dinner into the wee hours. And we
were trying to explain to him how people get up
and get going in the mountains of Colorado. So we
got up and got going, and we went over to Gunnison,
which is a place I think technically I must have
been there, but I don't remember. And then we'd rented
a jeep and we took this road up past Crested Butte,
past Gothic to this town, Emerald Lake. We should have
gone a little further because there's a pass right there.
I think it's like Boalis Pass or something. And we
hiked around Emerald Lake. There are three Emerald Lakes in Colorado,
but this one is by Crested Butte. And then we
came back and had fun in Crested Butte, and then
we were going to come back over Monarch Pass, but
Monarch Pass is kind of unexciting, and I wanted to
go over Cottonwood Pass, which is beautiful, and so I
convinced everybody that we would do that. And then we
went to tin Cup. Have you ever been there?
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: So when I was a little girl, my dad would
take me fishing at this place called Mirror Lake right
past tin Cup. Well as a young woman too. We
would just go with my brother or our fishing partner,
John Dougopolski. And tin Cup was a town of nine
people at that time, and it's kind of one of
these things in Colorado, like everybody knows tin Cup except
for you, apparently. And the mayor of tin Cup used
to be the person on the DIA trams Denver International
Airport trams that would take you between and they would
be like, how do you partner? That voice was the
mayor of tin Cup, but I can't remember his name,
so I was kind of curious if Tincup had grown
or shrunk. I think technically it's shrunk down to three people,
but it's a big summer cabin kind of place. And
when we got there, we realized Mirror Lake was only
three miles away, so we decided to go for it.
It was a ridiculous drive, super rocky, and we made
it to the top. The payoff was so worth it.
Mirror Lake is gorgeous and everyone loved it, and we
met these people up there who as soon as we
drove up there, this woman said, are you going back
to town. We're like yeah, and she's like, can you
call this lady? I just flooded out my jeep. It's
going to take a long time to dry out because
you to get to the other side of the lake,
you actually have to drive on the side of the lake,
and it's easy to flood your engine and she did.
But there were tons of ATV years up there, and
it was just gorgeous. Like so beautiful, and then we
hit the top, we come back down, we go over
Cottonwood Pass right as the sun is setting, we got
out hiked up to the summit view. It was so
beautiful and peaceful and wonderful, and the air was so fresh,
and it was exactly what I wanted. I could cry around.
I'm so happy that we got to.
Speaker 1: Amazing And then this is a privilege to live in Colorado.
That's what When I worked at the Denver Post, we
had that in giant letters right in the front entrance.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely true and it's a shame what people are
doing to that state. But we drive down into Buna Vista.
It looks like Buena Vis stup, but in Colorado they
say Buna Vista. And as we were driving down, we
see all these people coming into a big field and
they are showing that's a drive in movie.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: So we all are like super excited as we realize
the movie is Twisters, and we're like, we have to
do this. This has been the best day and now
we'll cap it off with a drive in movie. So
Mark didn't want to do it. We're in line and
we're all like, yeah, this would be great. It's wonderful,
and he's saying, this is a horrible idea. None of
us are dressed appropriately because you know, we're in sort
of T shirts and shorts, but it's getting cold out.
We're impacked into this jeep, which is not very comfortable.
Nobody in the backseat could see anything, and he's just
using logic to dissuade us from seeing the movie. We're
all like fighting with him, and then finally we all
realize it was, in fact a horrible idea. So we
got out of line and drove back.
Speaker 1: All right, that's good to hear. There's no logical reason
to go to drive. And I've told you this before.
Speaker 2: Oh I meant to tell Sean Fleetwood. Isn't he the
one that wants you to take.
Speaker 3: Him to Yes, that's never going to happen.
Speaker 2: I have one more.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm right here.
Speaker 2: Super exciting. But so the next day we go shopping
in Salida, and then we go shopping in Buna Vista
and we go into this gallery and Mark sees this,
this beautiful piece of art that he thinks we would like,
and he's right, I loved it. Beautiful light is a
it's an oil painting of the Arkansas going by Koda
Paxi and it's just beautiful. Really spoke to us. So
we're talking to the lady at the gallery and she says,
if you like this, you should go up to his
full gallery, which is like a mile up the road.
And he's a super awesome guy and his name is
Lester Lee. We go up there, ended up spending like
an hour and a half with him. He does oil paintings, watercolor, bronze's,
leather work, I mean, just everything. And he's I have
no idea about age, you know, but like not a
young man. He learned how to paint in Italy when
he was stationed there for the Air Force, and he
was saying he had tried to do all sorts of
jobs when he came back and he just couldn't really
do them, and he just decided to become an artist
and studied and is really really good and it was
just Oh. He also built the cabin that the gallery
was in. He built the log cabin. Like there's nothing
the guy can't do. Super interesting guy. And then so
we bought some stuff there and then we went up
to Saint Elmo. Have you been there?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's ghost town in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: That's the end of my culture thing. It was basically
ghost towns, small towns, four wheeling lakes, hiking like Salaida Awesome.
Speaker 1: Salida, Gunnison, like these are places that are familiar, but
I'm not sure about these ten cups and this other
place you just mentioned.
Speaker 3: Though I may have been there, I don't know. I
don't remember.
Speaker 1: I do know it's beautiful up there. It's beautiful. I
remember when I was in Colorado. When I first got there,
everyone just was like, I wish you would leave. I mean,
people love the mountains. They don't want all.
Speaker 3: Those tourists there. But it's probably gotten a lot nicer
since I was there fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: It was actually way too crowded. I was talking to
my aunt, who has climbed more than thirty fourteen ers.
I was asking her, how many fourteeners have you climbed,
and she's like, I lost count, but it's more than thirty,
she said. At some point she and my uncle Andy
just hated it, like they would they wanted to climb
every fourteener, but as they would reach the summit, it
was like you were sharing it with one hundred other people,
and the paths were so well trod that it kind
of took away the excitement of figuring out how to
get to the top, right, So she Aun Patty and
Uncle Andy decided instead to just start climbing thirteen ers
because nobody cares about climbing them, nobody's on them, and
you get the full experience without any of the silverness.
Speaker 3: That's funny. All right, Well, that sounds like I had
a great birthday. I'm happy for you. Thanks, yeah, very happy. Yeah.
All right.
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