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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly Hemingway and David Harsani. Just as a reminder,

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if you'd like to email the show, please do so

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at radio at the Federalist dot com. We'd love to

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hear from you. So, Molly, we have a new vice

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presidential candidate for the Democratic Party, Tim Walls. Did you

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know that he ice fishes and hunts, and he's just

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exactly like you and me and Middle America.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like what the corporate media I think

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would pass for a normal guy, like as part of

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a it's part of a shtick, Like nobody thinks he's

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a normal guy. But I feel like the media think

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they can present him as a normal, average American who

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supports BLM riots destroying his cities and fell in voting

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and open borders and abortion literally all the time at

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any point that anyone might want it for any reason,

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And they are like, yeah, that's going to work in

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Middle America. And it's more a comment on the regime,

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you know, the media, the leaders of the Democrat Party

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than anything else in my view.

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Speaker 1: So I was reading this, you know, I was reading

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all the stories when when he was was was named

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or when it leaked. But by the way, the media

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has become such a blob of lockstep being kind of

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writing that almost every story was the same. So it

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doesn't even really it's not even really worth reading all

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these outlets. But here's what happened. I saw that one

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place had said had noted that he had a folk

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seed demeanor. Then I noticed that another place said he

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had a folk seed demeanor. Then I find found five

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other places, other completely different outlets, major news outlets, that

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said he had a folksy demeanor. And then I saw

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one that said he had a folksy manner and folksy

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appeal and folksy mannerisms. He's a folksy former soldier, a

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folksy governor of Minnesota, folks see and relatable like folks see.

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And then he then they talked about his folksy rebukes

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and his folksy plane spoke in sharp tongue approach. I

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found over twenty four instances with the word folksy was

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used to describe Tim Walls, And I went back and

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then I read the stories describing JD. Vance, which framed

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him as this dour sort of kind of fraud who

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once ate a Trump but now was a zealous soldier

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in his army.

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Speaker 3: And all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And it's just so transparent that I, you know, I

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don't even know what to say about it anymore.

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Speaker 2: But okay, there's there are two issues in play. One,

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the corporate media really are incredibly powerful. What gets talked

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about is what they want to talk about. So the country,

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the whole world is on fire right now. You have

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wars either being engaged or breaking out all over the world.

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You have no idea who is president and what their

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state of functionality is. You have no idea what the

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vice president's state of functionality is. You have the economy crashing,

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you have inflation having been horrible for years. You have

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a completely open border. You have a crime wave that's

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not just besieging Americans, but they've made it in democrat

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run cities and states where you don't report crimes. So

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there's not even like a good handle on what the

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nature of the rising crime rates are. They're actually like, no,

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you're wrong, crime rates are going down because we told

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people to stop talking about it. I mean, like, across

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the board, what our corporate media should be talking about

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is all of these things. Instead they're like, we did

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a vibe check on Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz and

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they're great, and it's like worst. So it's really powerful

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what they're doing, and it's really unnerving what they're doing.

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But you are right. I do think there's a reason

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why trust and corporate media is at all time lows,

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But that doesn't change the fact of how much power

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they continue to have.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that at all.

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Speaker 1: They set the agenda for our debates and there's almost

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nothing you can do about it because they are so omnipresent,

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so powerful, and so.

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Speaker 3: Eloaded.

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Speaker 1: Right, they're rich, they have immense reach. So yeah, we're

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talking about what they want to The best we can

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do is to push back. You know, with Tim Walls,

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it's just very odd. Well, first of all, I think

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we should talk a little. Let's just talk about him.

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Then I want to talk about the pick itself and

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Jos Shapiro. So he exudes this Middle American esthetic, but

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there is no nothing about his positions. I mean, I'm

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not I'm not going to say there aren't any there

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aren't any socialists in Middle America, or that even some

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rural people aren't socialistm. You know, there is a tradition

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of that, but he certainly does not align with the

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values of when you think about Middle America. I mean

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he is when that when when when writers were destroying

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Minneapolis and by the way, destroying minority neighborhoods in Minneapolis,

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and you know, the mayor was begging him to call

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in the National Guard. He said, I will not patronize

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you as a white man without living your lived experiences

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to the to the camera. That's not how a normal,

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average American speaks. No one thinks like that other than

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some politicians and people in universities.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear his wife Winnie Mandela. Yeah, it was

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like talking about about the importance of like murdering people

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with top.

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Speaker 3: She was a terrible, terrible person, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Waltz's wife said that she could smell the tires

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burning when they were burning down businesses and killing people

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as part of the BLM riots, and that she kept

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her windows open as long as she could so that

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the wafts, you know, that the smell would waft in.

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And I'm like, that's psychopathic, Like that's so what normal

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person in the middle of a riot where your husband

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could actually do something to help save lives and you know,

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stop some of the two billion dollars in damage that

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was done by this radical Marxist group. What normal person says.

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And then I kept the windows open so I could

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smell everybody dying and having their businesses destroyed and having

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people flee not just the city but the state because

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of the horrible governance. Like that's insane, and the media

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are like, oh, we like them, they're so normal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of leftists got you know, up over their

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skis when that whole BLM thing was going on. I

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don't I think that backfired on a lot of them.

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Obviously he's one of them, hopefully. He's just terrible on

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so many levels. Like you mentioned the abortion position he made,

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you know, not that he can without the Supreme Court,

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but he signed a bill that made abortion a fundamental

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right into the ninth month or after sometimes actually you know,

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and yeah, yeah, it's up until birth.

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Speaker 2: And then he also did this thing where people had

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to report if they were leaving children to die if

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they survived abortions, and he changed it so that they

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don't have to report that anymore. But in the year

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that it was on, there were five including two who

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were just straight up left for dead, like two were.

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One had abnormalities leading to death, two were born in

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an arguably pre viable state, but two were just left

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for dead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's murder, and we should also mention he wants

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to socialize medicine. He wants to eliminate all fossil fuels

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within less than ten years now. He signed laws giving

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health care intuition free to illegal aliens and driver's licenses

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to illegal aliens. He also should talk about signed a

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bill that made his state a sanctuary state for doctors

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who want to mutilate kids with gender dysphoria.

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Speaker 3: Right, it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, these are not mainstream positions. These are fringe

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left wing positions, and there is not a fringe left

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wing position you can get away with is in this

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country that he has not taken.

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Speaker 3: Not one exists.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say it's worse. He also made

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it so that if you are a parent and your

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child is mentally unwell, thinks they are different sex and

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you don't provide the genital mutilation or sterilization and surgery

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that they want, you can have the child taken away

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from you.

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Speaker 3: He also signed that's so normal.

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Speaker 2: I think Midwesterners are going to love that.

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Speaker 3: What do you think they may if they don't know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we said, you know, I don't know

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how much of this information filters out to people.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully it does.

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Speaker 2: Also, this is the guy who provided tampons in boys'

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bathrooms because, as his lieutenant governor said, some boys men

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straight or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Party of Science.

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Speaker 1: And there's another part of this that people haven't really

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been talking about. But Minnesota is incredibly poorly governed since

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he's the Governor's a string of scandals, all kinds of

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fiscal mismanagement. I think that matters as well to some extent,

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though it's not as powerful and political messaging.

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Speaker 2: Are you referring to, for example, the corruption in the

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Feed the Children program? Yeah, we're like some unbelievable amount

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of money was taken by bad actors and he did

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nothing about it. And he said, oh, I kind of

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thought other people were supposed to do something about it,

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blame on other people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's not forget that he's the one who

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set up a snitch line during COVID to essentially prosecute

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people who were breaking these arbitrary authoritarian rules that he

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implemented in his state. I think many of them without

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any kind of you know, bill or anything, just complete

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executive orders.

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Speaker 2: So on that when he gave his acceptance speech from

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being selected by the woman who received no elect no

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votes and yet has become the nominee, he said, you know,

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weren't the people who just think you should be able

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to live your lives however you want to. And it's

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like you set up a snitch line during COVID where

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neighbors ratted out other people for things like playing basketball.

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Tell me again about how you want people to live

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their own lives. He opened up bars and tattoo parlors

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before he let people worship God. Tell me again about

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how you're all about you know, let me and live

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their own lives?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mind you, he said, you know, my you know,

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in Minnesota, we let people mind their own business, you know,

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or you know, we tell everyone minds your own business,

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except when they want to pick their healthcare, except when

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they want to pick their school, except when they want

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to go to church, except like every part of your life.

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The incredibly high levels of regulation that he imposes on businesses.

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There you know people are fleeing. That state. Used to

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be a really great place to live. People used to

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want to go to Minnesota. I don't know why it's

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so cold up there.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Can I say one great thing about Minnesota?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Prince, oh my gosh, replacements.

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Speaker 2: Hohoscer do time the time, also very Loch the time.

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Speaker 3: Bob Dylan's from Minnesota. I mean, there's there's a lot

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of great music in Minnesota over the years. I was

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just kidding.

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Speaker 2: I would to say on that though I like Minnesota.

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I have a lot of friends who live in Minnesota.

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Or did You're right, that's kind of become a hostile place.

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But when was the literally I'm not sure about this,

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When was the last time a Republican won that state?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: My point just being usually you know, you're so. I

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even would like to have a little talk about the

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comparison between Trump choosing Vance and Harris choosing Waltz. So

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I firmly believe, and I wish it weren't the case.

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I firmly believe that who you pick for vice president

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generally doesn't matter. You know, people like to blame them

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or credit them, but really, people are voting for the

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present cidential candidate, not the not the VP. But I

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read this thing from I forget their names. I get

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this newsletter that these people write, and they were talking

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about how the Waltz pick and the Hair and the

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Vance pick were the same pick because they did not

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show ideological diversity. But I do not view them as

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the same pick. And I would like to just, you know,

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lightly explain why picking Vance, who is this much more

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intellectual future version of the America First kind of movement

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showed that Trump wanted this legacy to not just be

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about him, but to keep going and to build after

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his second term is over. And yeah, he doesn't need

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Ohio to win, but it really shows it shows that

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this like, if there's one person who really embodies, particularly

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of the people who he was considering, who embodies the

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message of that America First philosophy that Trump has kind

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of forced on the Republican Party, it would be Vance.

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With Harris picking Waltz, there is no future there because

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he's like as old as she is. I think they're

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both sixty, is that right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's still out to twenty years in politics.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know what's a good point. I don't think

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people see Waltz as being someone who has a future,

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like a large future beyond vice president. Vice president is

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as probably as good as it's going to get for him,

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and it probably won't even get there for him.

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Speaker 3: I agree, But I used to think the same thing

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about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, I was like, vice president's

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the tops for him during the administration.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, back to the media, I think they're so

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powerful they can they can install whomever they want, you know,

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and so I if Waltz is the person, they will

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make Waltz the But Kamala Harris is tied in the

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polls roughly with Trump, and this is actually a few

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points better than Biden was. Biden was actually below Trump

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in the polls. But I do think you need that

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context that generally speaking, polls tend to overstate Democrat support.

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So like ten or four years ago, Trump was down

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ten points in the polls and the election ended up

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being about to tie. Right. Yeah, So being tied right

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now means that Kamala has some work cut out. First,

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certainly within the realm of possibility, particularly with the regime

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media being willing to run her campaign for her, But

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she should have, in my view, picked someone who would

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have cut into where Trump is strong and picking the

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governor of Minnesota, a state that I cannot remember when

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the last time Republicans won, and just you know, the

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thing I'm thinking of right now is in nineteen eighty

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four when Reagan ran against Mondale, Minnesota was the only

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state that Mondale won. And yes he was from Minnesota.

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But that's how unwilling to vote Republican they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, So it doesn't really left wing tradition

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there for sure.

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Speaker 2: And even in Wisconsin, which has a huge progressive movement

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as well, they don't. They viewed Minnesota. It doesn't like

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translate to Wisconsin being like, yeah, we like Minnesota, we

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think they're great. They tend to think they're even more

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extreme than they are. So I just don't think it

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was a hugely strong pick. It seemed like she every

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Republican I know breathed a huge sigh of relief when

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she picked Waltz, every single one. They were almost giddy.

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They were like so thankful she didn't pick Shapiro, who

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is an incredibly popular Democrat governor of a state. She

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needs to win, or pretty much needs to win. There

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are ways she can win without having Pennsylvania, but that

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would be a huge, huge factory for her. And they

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were scared of him because he's super competent, super politically astute,

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like he basically is Obama. He sounded like Obama and

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his speech introduced him, and she didn't pick him. In

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Progressives like the radical left of the Democrat Party were

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thrilled and elated with Waltz, which again shows how not

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middle of the road he is, despite what the corporate

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media are saying. But so were Republicans, and both of

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them didn't want Shapiro for exactly the opposite reasons. The

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radical art of the party didn't want Shapiro because of

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his support for Israel is how they would say it,

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but it kind of seems just like they don't like

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him for being Jewish, whereas Republicans didn't want Shapiro because

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they thought he could be a really effective candidate. But

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the fact that she chose Waltz, I think it was

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about not wanting to be upstaged by someone who can

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string sentences together and who can think his way out

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of a paper bag, and she wanted someone who was

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like about as dumb as she is. No offense to

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either of them, but they're certainly not They're not the

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brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

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Speaker 1: No offense, you drooling idiots. Yeah, no, I think maybe

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that was part of it. I definitely Listen, No one's

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going to convince me that this didn't have to do

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have something to do with him being Jewish. I just

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don't believe it. He is the popular governor of Pennsylvania.

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He is competent. He you know, all those positions Kamal

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is trying to walk back now, he's already moderated those

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over years as Walls has taken all those positions. So

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you know, I think the upside for Walls is that

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he can be an attack dog in a way that

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maybe Shapiro wouldn't be, because he probably has a better

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chance at running for the presidency himself in the future

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and things like that. But you know, you saw who

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was celebrating. You saw who was celebrating the AOC, Bernie

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sand every anti Semite out there on the left was

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celebrating Walls. So it's I think it had something to

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do with it. I also believe, and you're right that

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she would have been upstaged by him, and that's a

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big problem. You don't the vice president is a kind

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of do no harm pick, And if you have someone

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next to you who's more respected, who's more articulate, who

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is more charismatic, that's a big problem.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I think when Trump picked Pence, I am long

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on the record of not liking Pence for how he

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handled riff Rah the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana

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when he was governor. But I understood the wisdom of

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the pick because Trump was having problems reassuring Christian Conservatives,

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who are a huge part of his base if he's

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going to win, and so he picked Mike Pence. That

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made sense. How does picking like Kamala Harris is already

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far and away the most radical left person on a

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major party ticket to run for president. She does not

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need to shore up her progressive base. Picking someone who's

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like an as dumb version of her progressivism doesn't really

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do anything, does it? Like I actually think he's a

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white guy. Well, sorry, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I think you're I think it's the same. It reminds

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me of the Biden pick. You're trying to pick someone

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who will say whatever you want him to say, basically,

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he exudes he's coded to look like a moderate because

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he's a middle aged white dude, right that that is

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the reason you pick him.

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Speaker 3: My thing is it.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't have been a choice between Shapiro and w Is

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there a lot of other people out there she could

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have picked to help her in places she needs help with.

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So I think it's a bad pick. Honestly, I think

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the Vance pick was a maybe. If I concede all

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the things you say about him, he's a good pick

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when you know you're ahead. I'm not sure that that

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would be the same pick right now for Trump. Once

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Kamala came into the race, it was definitely.

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Speaker 2: A pick made at a moment of strength, and he

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had power, and he took it because everyone in the

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Republican Party had wanted in terms of the people who

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run the Republican Party, they wanted him to pick like

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someone who was more friendly to their foreign policy, and

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he didn't, and it was it was definitely like a

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ballsy pick that showed strength. That's kind of what I'm saying.

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Kamala's pick did not suggest I don't know, like, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know what it suggests. I just think it's a

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bad decision if there.

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Speaker 2: Was a reason to. Maybe maybe hers is a like

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maybe this is a sign of strength, Like she knows

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she's going to win. They've got the ballot, Harvard sing down,

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and they are going to like once and for all,

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turn America into Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: By the way, people should not kind of quickly say

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people should not underestimate Walls. Though I've watched him a

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little bit. I mean, he could be good in a debate,

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you know, he's not. I'm not saying he's a bright guy,

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but he's a very aggressive guy. And I'm just saying, people,

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I don't like when people underestimate politicians who were governors.

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They win states. It's not like, you know, they have

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some talent in politics. I just think so.

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Speaker 2: So Steve Karnaki and Tom Bevin, who are kind of

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both polling experts with is that his name, Steve Karnaki,

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I think that's right. Yeah, we're both, I think yeah.

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They were both saying that, yes, Waltz won as a

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governor of a state that reliably votes Democrat, but he

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didn't do it with overwhelming support. He basically crushed it

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in the crazy left counties and then lost all the

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other counties. So he won like just a few, you know,

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highly populous counties where the city's burned and stuff, and

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then he lost everything else. It's not like he has

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appeal to the type of voter who's outside of Minneapolis St. Paul,

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you know, yeah, I mean they're all trands there.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty I actually sure Clinton picked al Gore,

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you know, to help him in, but he didn't need

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to win that state to win the election. What I

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mean is, I think Walls can be someone that you're

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trying to entice people in Pennsylvania, rural Pennsylvania, trick them

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into believing he's some sort of moderate, moderating person, you know,

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has a moderating effect on Kamala.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of how moderate his last week, he was on

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TV saying, you call it socialism, I call it neighborliness, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can we also talk about another aspect of this? And

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I don't love doing this sort of thing because I

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did not serve in the military, and he did. He

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was in the National Guard. As soon as he was

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going to be deployed to Iraq, he quit the National Guard.

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All right, that's one thing, you know, take that for

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what it is. But then I see a video, yeah,

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yesterday of him going off on guns, lying about guns.

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He's terrible on that issue as well, saying that when

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he was in war. I don't know the exact thing

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he said, but something like, when I was in war,

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I carried these weapons. They don't belong on the streets. Well,

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he was never in war. That is stolen valor. I

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looked up as many definitions as I can of veterans

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groups saying that you served during wartime and not having

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served as stolen valor. I think it's a pretty big issue.

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That would have sunk almost sunk someone's camp. It would

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have sunk someone's campaign maybe twenty years ago. I mean,

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that's what the whole George W. Bush dan ratherthing was about.

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But with Blumenthal or whatever his name is in Connecticut

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and others, it doesn't seem to matter as much. But

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I think that's an issue that Vance, a marine, volunteered

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and went there right has is a pretty strong good

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issue there to dunk on the guy.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I noticed again that the corporate media were praising Vance's

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military service, even as they have barely mentioned Vance enlisting

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as a marine.

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Speaker 3: You would have thought he was he landed in D Day.

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He was a soldier.

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Speaker 1: It's like literally in every lead of every story, and

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then when I looked at the vance story, so it

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was buried somewhere in the story that he was a

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marine who volunteered.

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Speaker 2: With Well, it's actually I think worse than what you say.

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I've been reading a little bit about it, including you know,

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he did serve in the National Guard. When his group

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was set to deploy after nine to eleven, he dropped out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, but it was

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like two thousand and six, I believe his deployment or

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something like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he lost the fercatist that he'd had, like they

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revoked it. Like it's not I will just say we

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started getting and I'm sure you did to a ton

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of emails from military people who were saying that this

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was sort of their least favorite type of military person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was bumped down because he didn't go. So

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what he did was in twenty two thousand and six,

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I believe he decided he was going to run for Congress.

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Speaker 3: He was deployed to Iraq. He didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: They bumped him down to whatever rank and then he

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retired at the lower rank. But yet his campaign, which

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he seems to be running now as well, was to

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frame himself as a you know, just assault of the earth,

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middle American veteran who you know, was a soldier. But

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a lot of the folks in Minnesota. I watched one

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little documentary on the man who took his place and

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went to Iraq with the National Guard, who was like,

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you can't He's like, I could have quit too, but

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I didn't because we can't have everyone joining and just

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quitting when it gets you know, when it's tough. Now again,

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I always feel a little weird about this. I didn't serve.

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I respect people who do, but that doesn't mean that

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we can't talk about the truth here. And the truth

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is that when he had to go, he quit and

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he ran for Congress instead, where he has a terribly

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had a terrible liberal, you know, far left wing record.

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I did want to go back to one thing on

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Shapiro that made me laugh, so Vance pointed out that

478
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if it's not Shapiro, it's probably anti Semitism. I think

479
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,519
he's right on that. So everyone including what's that Congressman Kissinger.

480
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Speaker 2: Crying Adam Kinsinger.

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Speaker 1: Kinsinger says, when was the last time Republicans had a

482
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,200
Jewish vice presidential candidate, can you tell me you know,

483
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,680
because he's saying Lieberman, he's talking about Lieberman. Well, Briman

484
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,720
was kicked out of the Democratic Party. He had to

485
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leave that party. There is zero chance he would be

486
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:40,519
on the top of a ticket today. There is zero

487
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,839
chance anyone who is Jewish would be on the top

488
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720
of the ticket unless they denounced and renounced their Judaism

489
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in a Bernie Sanders sort of way. Shapiro, you know,

490
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,599
he's had a very nice thing. He said the other

491
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yesterday he said, you know, I'm proud of my faith and.

492
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Speaker 3: All that, but I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Two days before he was debasing himself, basically trying to

494
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unjew himself, you know, and I can say this is

495
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a Jew myself, I think, I mean, I hate what

496
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,359
people say as a Jew, so I'm going to take

497
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that back.

498
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Speaker 3: But people tell me, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: Now there's reports in political I saw that he had

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taken himself out of the running. I don't believe that

501
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,599
for a second. I don't believe it, because this weekend

502
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,880
he was out there, you know, apologizing for his positions

503
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,200
on Israel. There is no way that he wasn't running

504
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,480
for the VP spot there. This is just all face

505
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:34,799
saving stuff anyway. So well, I think this is good,

506
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:36,720
by the way, for Jews, because I don't want him

507
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on a ticket with Kamala Harris. A. I think it's

508
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,440
good for him because if he wants to run in

509
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:45,000
twenty twenty eight, he can without being connected to these

510
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,880
hardcore leftists, you know, if they lose. So I think

511
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,799
for him it's good. I think for the Jewish American

512
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480
community it's good. I think it's good for everyone except

513
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:53,279
Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the CNN panel where different CNN hosts

516
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were talking about how they didn't like Shapiro because he

517
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,240
was Jewish basically, and then Jewish Jake Tapper keeps on

518
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,319
kind of like pointing out to them how awful they

519
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:15,319
sound and also how like how unfair they're being. You know,

520
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:17,680
they're like, well, we couldn't pick Shapiro because of his

521
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,880
position on Israel, and he's like, he has the same

522
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,680
exact position on Israel as Tim waltzs and they're like yeah,

523
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but he came out and like protested. He said that

524
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the protests were anti Semitic and Tapper's he only said

525
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,799
that about the ones that were anti Semitic, and like

526
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,319
they were happening in his state, so he should have,

527
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:37,480
you know, like and they they were all sort of

528
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,960
like trying to get around this problem that they didn't

529
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like Shapiro for being Jewish. Someone say that, oh sorry.

530
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Speaker 3: But no, no, So he's trying to gently guide them

531
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away from being complete anti semis but didn't early work.

532
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Speaker 2: It takes a lot, like a lot lot for me

533
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,400
to feel bad for Jake Tapper because he's so much

534
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,680
a propagandist. But I was thinking that has got to

535
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,640
be tough to work with people who are just being

536
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,440
that way, knowing who were being so anti Semitic, knowing

537
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,039
that you're Jewish, Like.

538
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Speaker 1: There was a Yeah, there's a lot of euphemistic language

539
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,440
going on in the media about like why Shapiro wasn't picked,

540
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,119
And you know, it's clear to me.

541
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Speaker 3: I said it before that it's his name.

542
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Speaker 2: Because someone pointed out that if Shapiro were chosen and

543
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you had that sort of obligatory here's the presidential nominee

544
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and their spouse and the vice presidential nominee and their spouse,

545
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,880
it would have been three Jews on stage with Kamala

546
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Harris and that she probably felt that was too much

547
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to keep her.

548
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Speaker 1: I hate that we have to talk speak that way.

549
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We wouldn't say that about you know, through Catholics or something.

550
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,559
But yeah, I mean I think that that's true.

551
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Speaker 2: Though. Speaking of spouses, yes, oh boy, there was a

552
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,400
story that that Kamala Harris's husband, Doug em Hoff, admitted

553
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,799
to that he had stopped the nanny of his children,

554
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:10,559
breaking up his marriage. That's the part that he admits

555
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:13,960
to the party has not spoken to yet is that

556
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,599
he impregnated her and that she like quote unquote, didn't

557
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960
keep the baby. I don't think we know yet whether

558
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,200
that means the baby was killed, whether the baby was

559
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,079
the the option plan was made for the baby, or

560
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:36,319
you know, like what exactly happened. But the thing that

561
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:39,319
makes this so interesting to me is that Kamala Harris

562
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:43,680
has made her husband the point man on toxic masculinity

563
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,559
and abortion. And I cannot think of a worse person

564
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,920
than someone who not just destroyed his family, but like

565
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,839
destroyed everything. You know, it's a horrible thing to cheat

566
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:59,599
on your spouse, ending your marriage, but to do it

567
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,160
also with the person who's in a position of trust

568
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400
for your children has got to psychologically destroy them, you know,

569
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,279
for decades. And I hate that phrase toxic masculinity. I

570
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:14,480
actually don't view any of this as actual masculinity. But

571
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,400
if you accept the you know, those propaganda terms from feminists,

572
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960
is there a worse example than someone who did something

573
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,359
like this to his own children, to his own wife,

574
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:27,240
to his own community, because she was not just the nanny,

575
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but the teacher at the very elite school they were

576
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sending their kids to. I mean, it's just mo refying.

577
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,079
Speaker 1: Remember these are the same people who make fun of

578
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:38,839
Mike Pence because he won't be in a room with,

579
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,440
you know, someone who a woman who is in his

580
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,440
wife and so on, which I think is probably a

581
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,640
good practice in a way if you're you know whatever, Listen.

582
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,119
I just want to give not one for life advice,

583
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,920
you know that, But I think I can give some advice.

584
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,599
I'm just saying that, having read a lot of books

585
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,599
about celebrities and politicians, I think it's very important that

586
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,200
when you hire a nanny for your children that they

587
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,880
be a little bit maybe older, a little bit, you know.

588
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,200
I don't think you should be hiring these attractive young

589
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,559
women to be nannies in your home. I'm just saying,

590
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,720
you're asking for trouble. Is that wrong to say?

591
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: I think you were going there. I mean, I don't know.

592
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:20,440
We had we had when we were so poor, we learned.

593
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960
We hired someone to help us off of Craigslist. I'm

594
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,240
not recommending that you find childcare off of craigslist. But

595
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:33,640
I loved this woman so so much, absolutely beautiful inside

596
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,640
and out, so good with our children. She was helping

597
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,599
out a few hours a day, a few days a week,

598
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,160
and Savannah such a wonderful, wonderful and gorgeous, and it

599
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,359
was did not appear to be a problem in our marriage.

600
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Speaker 1: But like, yeah, but Mark is an exemplary human being.

601
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,960
I'm just saying that if you are a week, we're normal.

602
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: People like you can be if you notice things. But

603
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,480
like I guess I'm saying, is I see what you're

604
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,759
saying about not inviting temptation into your home and stuff

605
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:10,440
like that. But I actually kind of think that the

606
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440
whole point of being an adult male or female is

607
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,320
to learn how to resist such temptations. And I've also

608
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,280
noticed that frequently people who cheat are cheating with people

609
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,119
much less attractive than their spouse. And so I don't

610
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,239
think it's always about you know, not beauty being like overwhelming.

611
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I this is a weird. This is a

612
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,719
weird right term we took here. I admit that. I'm

613
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,119
just saying, if you're the kind of person like the

614
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,960
what's it called, the mister the first gentleman.

615
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, not much of a gentleman, I think, And you.

616
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Speaker 3: Have a weakness, you have a weakness. That's not the

617
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type of nan that you should hire.

618
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Speaker 2: This does remind me also of another thing with Tim Waltz.

619
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So the media we're just so in love with him

620
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,719
and his speech and it was so uplifting and so wonderful.

621
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And one of the things he'd done was take a

622
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:11,800
really vulgar, disgusting smear against JD Fans Jadevan's father of

623
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,840
young children and a beautiful wife, and repeated it and

624
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,639
then like smirked and said see what I did there.

625
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,159
And the media didn't say like end of democracy. We've

626
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,760
gotten authoritarian on stage making up lies in order to

627
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400
destroy his political opponent. They were like, ooh, he's feisty.

628
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,199
We like his vibes.

629
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,079
Speaker 3: I mean, Molly Molly, he went there, he went.

630
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: There, he went there.

631
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was so despicable, his little smirk after.

632
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:47,760
I just found it really, you know, disgusting. I don't

633
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,440
like JD. Vance, but he's a father, he was a marine,

634
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:55,239
he's married, and to repeat that kind of like smear

635
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,320
that was everyone knows who follows these things that was

636
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,960
invented on the internet.

637
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Speaker 3: It's just despicable. So it was. It was enraging. I

638
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,159
hate it. What do you do?

639
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Jdvance, you're debating Tim Walls, do

640
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,239
you bring it up and say that was despicable or

641
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,320
do you not want to like spread it anymore? What

642
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,599
is the what do you think.

643
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: You should wright? I liked how Mary Catherine Ham handled it.

644
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:29,239
She basically started making a similar falsehood about Tim Waltz

645
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,039
apparently does intercourse with traffic cones. Did you know that

646
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,880
I do. I'm hearing it all over the place on

647
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,440
Twitter and.

648
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 3: Anyway.

649
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm not recommending anyone engage in such childish things, but

650
00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,159
these people really will do anything for power, and it's

651
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:48,320
really disgusting and growth.

652
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Speaker 1: You know, in the old days, you'd have a candidate

653
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,079
and they'd have some dignity, right, and they'd have their

654
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,760
minions doing all this stuff for them. They wouldn't do

655
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,960
it themselves. But I'm not saying that they were pure

656
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,280
or anything like that. It was ugly then as well,

657
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,000
but now they just they do it themselves and they just.

658
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: Like giggle at it. And you know, I don't know.

659
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,679
Speaker 1: I guess this is the folksiness that Tim everyone's talking

660
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:12,679
about with Tim Walls.

661
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,639
Speaker 3: All right, enough of that. I have a lot of

662
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:17,760
culture this week.

663
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: I do not.

664
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: But are you excited about that?

665
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,559
Speaker 2: Damn? It's super exciting.

666
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,039
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I want to say, so last

667
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,679
week you besmirched my character and basically called me unpatriotic

668
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,119
for not rooting for American interests at the Olympics. I

669
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,880
do hate the Olympics, but I said to myself, I'm

670
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,119
going to give it a chance. I'm going to watch

671
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:38,880
some of the events, and I had a really good time.

672
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,800
I watched archery, I watched swimming, I watch people running.

673
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:46,840
Rooted for the Americans and it's pretty it was pretty cool.

674
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,880
You know, have you watched any none?

675
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I was. I watched the tiniest little thing.

676
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,000
I was in Colorado. Do you know Buds Bar in Sedalia.

677
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't remember anything like that.

678
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,639
Speaker 2: The Great so Sidelia is a very small town in

679
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,480
Douglas County with basically nothing in it, but they have

680
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:08,760
this bar called Buds Bar, and they have you know,

681
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,519
just normal drinks, very limited menu of drinks, and then

682
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:16,400
an even more limited food menu. You can have a burger, cheeseburger,

683
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:19,960
double burger, or double cheeseburger and that's it. No fries.

684
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,559
In fact, their motto is no fries, dang it, but

685
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:30,639
worse sorry. And we're in there with our kids and

686
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,960
they were showing the Katie Lideki eight hundred meter swim

687
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,239
and my girls really like her, and I think she's

688
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,679
from Northern Virginia or hereabouts somewhere around here. I don't know,

689
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,960
And so they were watching and we were kind of

690
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,960
wondering what would happen. But on the next TV over

691
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,159
there was a chiron that said Lideki wins the eight

692
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,000
hundred meter.

693
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 3: Gold so like highlights.

694
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So one of my kids is like, spoiler alert,

695
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:58,199
that's funny.

696
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,159
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna say I never even heard of her

697
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:04,639
before that, like this week, and I was watching some

698
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,360
of her swims pretty amazing.

699
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: I noticed I might be the most winningest.

700
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the most goal.

701
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,599
Speaker 2: She has the most goals of any woman.

702
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: The winningest gold medal.

703
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,599
Speaker 2: Get past you her Sonny.

704
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,599
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I didn't notice in the Olympics. This is

705
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:22,239
going to be boring just a second.

706
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: I did notice on when I was younger, like if

707
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,119
you hit thirty, you were like the oldest person at

708
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:28,119
the Olympics. But now a lot of people keep in

709
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,480
really great shape. They want you know, there's scientific about

710
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,519
their diets, and there are a lot of older athletes

711
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,679
there competing and winning, and that's nice to see as

712
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:37,880
an older fellow myself.

713
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

714
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: I watched and went to the movie theater and I

715
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,840
saw Deadpool Versus Wolverine. I absolutely loved it. I'd such

716
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,239
a good time. I thought it was very funny. There's

717
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,519
a lot of inside jokes about you know, Marvel movies

718
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,679
and comics and stuff like series.

719
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, I want to say, I was just opening my

720
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,679
mouth and pointing in with my tongue out and I'm

721
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,440
doing this. I'm saying what I'm doing, Like how Kamala

722
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,880
Harris says her pronouncers she her and she's wearing a

723
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,199
blue suit because we got a reader note saying that

724
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,280
when David gets mad at me for my faces, he

725
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,519
should describe the face.

726
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: Oh right, right, yeah, I have to start doing that.

727
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:20,639
Speaker 2: I hate that self referential stuff. I hate Marvel movies anyway.

728
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Now whole movies find it to be like boring, and well.

729
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to give just a slight spoiler.

730
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: Like, so they bring back characters who are kind of

731
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,840
in failed Marvel movies from the nineties and or two

732
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:33,039
of the aughts and stuff. So like I'm just gonna

733
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:36,159
give one because it's out there is Elektra, the woman

734
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,800
who was used to be married to Ben Affleck, and

735
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,719
so there's fourth walls breaking to the Jennifer Garner right

736
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,679
is in it, and like Wesley Snipes is Blade, like

737
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,599
they have just it's very funny if you watch these movies,

738
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:51,480
I think, and there's there are fourth walls come down.

739
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,320
They actually make fun of themselves as actors in it,

740
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,679
and there's a lot of that. And I just want

741
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,079
to tell everyone, you know, how Marvel has these scenes.

742
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:00,920
They have like a middle of credit scene and then

743
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239
they have an end credit scene which I always have

744
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,199
to sit there and I'm like a billion people have

745
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,920
anticipated in making this movie. It's like a half an

746
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,119
hour of credits to wait, but I did wait, and

747
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:12,400
that last scene is the funniest thing in the movie,

748
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,920
so people should stick it out for that. I also

749
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,760
have a very strong recommend, very strong recommend, and it's

750
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,159
a very nice movie. You will like it. It's called

751
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:26,119
The Peanut Butter Falcon.

752
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh I love Peanut Butter Falcon.

753
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,039
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, you saw it.

754
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah it was Shiah Labouf and yeah, Dakota Johnson, isn't

755
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,280
it and a young man with down syndrome?

756
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: I think right, it was awesome. Yes, it's it's amazing.

757
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,440
So I love that movie. It's just such a it's

758
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,159
a feel good movie, but just amazing.

759
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: If you liked that movie, have you seen Mud.

760
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,039
Speaker 3: Now with McConaughey.

761
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what I mean. Maybe it's because

762
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:57,519
it's kind of like similar geographic thing, but you might

763
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,239
like that too. For some reason, I put them to.

764
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,679
Speaker 1: I also watched a documentary that's very long of Ennio Marconi,

765
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,239
like my favorite.

766
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,639
Speaker 2: San Enyo Marconi the composer.

767
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,159
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so the movies.

768
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: The Mission is one of my favorite soundtracks of all time.

769
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,559
But of course he did so many amazing.

770
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: It has to be over one hundred movies. It has

771
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,039
to be.

772
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 1: And what was incredible about this it goes back to

773
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:33,079
his youth. It's a long documentary, but it's so interesting

774
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,559
is that I didn't know he started out, you know,

775
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,440
he was a trumpet player. Then he learned composition and

776
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,079
was a composer. But then he wrote tons of top

777
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:45,320
ten hits in Italy, just pop songs for all kinds

778
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,480
of singers, and he would just like bang them out

779
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,719
a day of pops and they'd all be like top

780
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,199
ten hits.

781
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:50,519
Speaker 3: There.

782
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: Just an incredibly accomplished person, but just a genius I think.

783
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,840
And he I believe died in twenty twenty.

784
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that arc exception of Western movie

785
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:03,599
music was made by an Italian.

786
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: Totally totally. Yeah. I've been listening. It's he's great. So

787
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,039
that's it for me.

788
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: When I was in Nazareth and went into the cathedral

789
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,719
there above I think maybe they called the Cathedral of

790
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,800
the Denunciation because it's above where Mary received the word

791
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:33,000
that she would would conceive it embarrassed son. They were

792
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,559
playing Gabriel's Obo when we came in, and I loved that,

793
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:41,800
which we also play at our church. It's from The Mission.

794
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent soundtrack the Mission. I think he did Russia

795
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,320
House as well, which you were.

796
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:50,079
Speaker 2: But that composer is also really good. And you know

797
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,119
what's funny is I you know, you know how I

798
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,480
loved that and I told you I watched that recently,

799
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,239
but my husband was making fun of me for loving

800
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,559
that that music so much. And it's Jerry Goldsmith, who

801
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,800
is another very good composer.

802
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's like the guy you go to when

803
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,800
you can't get John Williams.

804
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: He's like number two I think so.

805
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:17,159
Speaker 1: Yes, so I was wrong about that, but yeah, just

806
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,000
tons of tons of tons of films, all different.

807
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,159
Speaker 3: Kinds of styles and anyway, I recommend it if you're

808
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,280
interested in him. It was. It was really well done.

809
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,880
It's on I think it's streaming on Amazon. So did

810
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,800
you watch it? Yeah?

811
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: Jerry Goldsmith, Yeah, Gord Star, Trek Movies, Rambo, Logan's Run,

812
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:42,199
Planet of the Apes, Tora to Tora, Patton, Chinatown, Omen Alien, Poltergeist. Yeah,

813
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:46,239
reminds Hoo's Yours, Total Recall, Basic Instinct, Air Force One,

814
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,360
La Confidential, Mulan and The Mummy. I mean these are

815
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,400
not nothing films here.

816
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,039
Speaker 1: No, he's like, let me think about this. He's like,

817
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:57,280
who's the best baseball player? He's like number two. You

818
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,880
know what I'm saying.

819
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, technically, Jack Goldsmith has won or been nominated

820
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,320
for far more awards than Ennio Morricone. I do prefer

821
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,119
Ennia Morricony. But I think you're denigrating Jack's Goldsmith. I

822
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:12,360
don't know why we're fighting about this.

823
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he's number two after John Williams an

824
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,079
American filmmaking So John Williams at Star Wars, Raiders, you

825
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,639
know all those and when you can't get John Williams,

826
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:22,880
that you get that guy you just mentioned, he's number two.

827
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,400
That's someone saying I don't have anything else. Did you

828
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,039
do any I know you were on a trip. Did

829
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:30,079
you do anything?

830
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was in Colorado and I didn't watch anything,

831
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,519
but I had a wonderful, very quick trip. So I

832
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,920
had a special birthday, as we say, and I told

833
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,679
my husband that what I wanted to do was be

834
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,719
in the mountains with my sister, and she agreed, so

835
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,239
she and I and the kids and Mark went up

836
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,400
and we stayed in Salida. Not to be confused, with

837
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:03,920
Sedalia in Douglas County, Colorado, Solida. Is this like really

838
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,039
up and coming big. I mean, it's like a big

839
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:10,280
fun place mountain town that's become very popular and is

840
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,880
near Buna Vista, and there's a lot of whitewater rafting.

841
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,239
He stayed at this amazing motel from the fifties that

842
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,760
they had just redone to be kind of stylish but

843
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,440
still super cheap. They had airstream trailers that you could rent.

844
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,320
And I just read in the New York Times yesterday

845
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,840
that fifties style motels are having a big comeback as

846
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,320
younger people like to just you know, walk right into

847
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,440
their room and have a little more personality and stuff.

848
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:42,239
So Mark was really upset at how mountain towns close

849
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,840
at eight pm. You know. He thinks that they should

850
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,239
be open for dinner into the wee hours. And we

851
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,199
were trying to explain to him how people get up

852
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,800
and get going in the mountains of Colorado. So we

853
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,679
got up and got going, and we went over to Gunnison,

854
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,679
which is a place I think technically I must have

855
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:05,079
been there, but I don't remember. And then we'd rented

856
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:10,360
a jeep and we took this road up past Crested Butte,

857
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,760
past Gothic to this town, Emerald Lake. We should have

858
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,679
gone a little further because there's a pass right there.

859
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,000
I think it's like Boalis Pass or something. And we

860
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,360
hiked around Emerald Lake. There are three Emerald Lakes in Colorado,

861
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,480
but this one is by Crested Butte. And then we

862
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:27,199
came back and had fun in Crested Butte, and then

863
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,840
we were going to come back over Monarch Pass, but

864
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,239
Monarch Pass is kind of unexciting, and I wanted to

865
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,159
go over Cottonwood Pass, which is beautiful, and so I

866
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,639
convinced everybody that we would do that. And then we

867
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:42,480
went to tin Cup. Have you ever been there?

868
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't think so.

869
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: So when I was a little girl, my dad would

870
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,719
take me fishing at this place called Mirror Lake right

871
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,719
past tin Cup. Well as a young woman too. We

872
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,559
would just go with my brother or our fishing partner,

873
00:47:56,679 --> 00:48:01,840
John Dougopolski. And tin Cup was a town of nine

874
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,880
people at that time, and it's kind of one of

875
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,159
these things in Colorado, like everybody knows tin Cup except

876
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:13,400
for you, apparently. And the mayor of tin Cup used

877
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,880
to be the person on the DIA trams Denver International

878
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,079
Airport trams that would take you between and they would

879
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:25,639
be like, how do you partner? That voice was the

880
00:48:25,639 --> 00:48:27,400
mayor of tin Cup, but I can't remember his name,

881
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:29,760
so I was kind of curious if Tincup had grown

882
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,320
or shrunk. I think technically it's shrunk down to three people,

883
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,320
but it's a big summer cabin kind of place. And

884
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,079
when we got there, we realized Mirror Lake was only

885
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:44,559
three miles away, so we decided to go for it.

886
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:49,800
It was a ridiculous drive, super rocky, and we made

887
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,960
it to the top. The payoff was so worth it.

888
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,840
Mirror Lake is gorgeous and everyone loved it, and we

889
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,320
met these people up there who as soon as we

890
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,360
drove up there, this woman said, are you going back

891
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,719
to town. We're like yeah, and she's like, can you

892
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,280
call this lady? I just flooded out my jeep. It's

893
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,039
going to take a long time to dry out because

894
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:13,719
you to get to the other side of the lake,

895
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,920
you actually have to drive on the side of the lake,

896
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,800
and it's easy to flood your engine and she did.

897
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:22,960
But there were tons of ATV years up there, and

898
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,400
it was just gorgeous. Like so beautiful, and then we

899
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:28,639
hit the top, we come back down, we go over

900
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:31,440
Cottonwood Pass right as the sun is setting, we got

901
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,840
out hiked up to the summit view. It was so

902
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,440
beautiful and peaceful and wonderful, and the air was so fresh,

903
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,880
and it was exactly what I wanted. I could cry around.

904
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,000
I'm so happy that we got to.

905
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: Amazing And then this is a privilege to live in Colorado.

906
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,480
That's what When I worked at the Denver Post, we

907
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:51,119
had that in giant letters right in the front entrance.

908
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 2: It's absolutely true and it's a shame what people are

909
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,440
doing to that state. But we drive down into Buna Vista.

910
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:01,280
It looks like Buena Vis stup, but in Colorado they

911
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,519
say Buna Vista. And as we were driving down, we

912
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,280
see all these people coming into a big field and

913
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,599
they are showing that's a drive in movie.

914
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 3: Ah.

915
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,599
Speaker 2: So we all are like super excited as we realize

916
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:19,519
the movie is Twisters, and we're like, we have to

917
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:21,400
do this. This has been the best day and now

918
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,840
we'll cap it off with a drive in movie. So

919
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,440
Mark didn't want to do it. We're in line and

920
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,719
we're all like, yeah, this would be great. It's wonderful,

921
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,679
and he's saying, this is a horrible idea. None of

922
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,320
us are dressed appropriately because you know, we're in sort

923
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,880
of T shirts and shorts, but it's getting cold out.

924
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:45,559
We're impacked into this jeep, which is not very comfortable.

925
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,239
Nobody in the backseat could see anything, and he's just

926
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:56,400
using logic to dissuade us from seeing the movie. We're

927
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,599
all like fighting with him, and then finally we all

928
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,000
realize it was, in fact a horrible idea. So we

929
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:03,880
got out of line and drove back.

930
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: All right, that's good to hear. There's no logical reason

931
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,320
to go to drive. And I've told you this before.

932
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: Oh I meant to tell Sean Fleetwood. Isn't he the

933
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,480
one that wants you to take.

934
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: Him to Yes, that's never going to happen.

935
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,159
Speaker 2: I have one more.

936
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,679
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm right here.

937
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,519
Speaker 2: Super exciting. But so the next day we go shopping

938
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:31,599
in Salida, and then we go shopping in Buna Vista

939
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,960
and we go into this gallery and Mark sees this,

940
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,320
this beautiful piece of art that he thinks we would like,

941
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,119
and he's right, I loved it. Beautiful light is a

942
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:47,280
it's an oil painting of the Arkansas going by Koda

943
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,679
Paxi and it's just beautiful. Really spoke to us. So

944
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:54,199
we're talking to the lady at the gallery and she says,

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if you like this, you should go up to his

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full gallery, which is like a mile up the road.

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And he's a super awesome guy and his name is

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Lester Lee. We go up there, ended up spending like

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an hour and a half with him. He does oil paintings, watercolor, bronze's,

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leather work, I mean, just everything. And he's I have

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no idea about age, you know, but like not a

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young man. He learned how to paint in Italy when

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he was stationed there for the Air Force, and he

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was saying he had tried to do all sorts of

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jobs when he came back and he just couldn't really

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do them, and he just decided to become an artist

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and studied and is really really good and it was

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just Oh. He also built the cabin that the gallery

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was in. He built the log cabin. Like there's nothing

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the guy can't do. Super interesting guy. And then so

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we bought some stuff there and then we went up

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to Saint Elmo. Have you been there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's ghost town in Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: That's the end of my culture thing. It was basically

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ghost towns, small towns, four wheeling lakes, hiking like Salaida Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Salida, Gunnison, like these are places that are familiar, but

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I'm not sure about these ten cups and this other

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place you just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Though I may have been there, I don't know. I

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don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I do know it's beautiful up there. It's beautiful. I

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remember when I was in Colorado. When I first got there,

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everyone just was like, I wish you would leave. I mean,

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people love the mountains. They don't want all.

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Speaker 3: Those tourists there. But it's probably gotten a lot nicer

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since I was there fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: It was actually way too crowded. I was talking to

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my aunt, who has climbed more than thirty fourteen ers.

981
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I was asking her, how many fourteeners have you climbed,

982
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and she's like, I lost count, but it's more than thirty,

983
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she said. At some point she and my uncle Andy

984
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just hated it, like they would they wanted to climb

985
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every fourteener, but as they would reach the summit, it

986
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was like you were sharing it with one hundred other people,

987
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and the paths were so well trod that it kind

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of took away the excitement of figuring out how to

989
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get to the top, right, So she Aun Patty and

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Uncle Andy decided instead to just start climbing thirteen ers

991
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because nobody cares about climbing them, nobody's on them, and

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you get the full experience without any of the silverness.

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Speaker 3: That's funny. All right, Well, that sounds like I had

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a great birthday. I'm happy for you. Thanks, yeah, very happy. Yeah.

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All right.

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Speaker 1: Well that's it for this week. If you'd like to

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reach the show, please do at radio at the Federalist

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dot com.

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Speaker 3: We'd love to hear from you, and

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Speaker 1: Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious Poor La

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Fray