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Speaker 2: proudly representing Ohio's second District, Congressman David tail Or. Good
Speaker 2: you have you back on the fifty five KRC Morning Show.
Speaker 3: Congressman Morning Brian, thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 2: Well, I know you were a yes vote because only
Speaker 2: to vote to know Davidson and Congressman Massey the one big,
Speaker 2: beautiful bill. It's got a lot of good in it,
Speaker 2: I'll have to admit, But what my big concern is
Speaker 2: I want to bounce it off your head. Uh, it
Speaker 2: doesn't quite cut enough. We spend an outrageous amount of
Speaker 2: money and I was hoping that they would. It would
Speaker 2: represent a much much larger cut from government expenditures over
Speaker 2: the next decade. Is calculated by the CBO, which we
Speaker 2: all have a question mark about their calculations. But any
Speaker 2: anticipation that we're going to get cuts to spending down
Speaker 2: the road at some point, Congressman, I.
Speaker 3: Certainly hope so Brian, that the Big Beautiful Bill does
Speaker 3: have one point six trillion plus dollars and cuts, and
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent that's not enough.
Speaker 3: We all like to see the fraud wasting abuse that
Speaker 3: the Doge found included in this. Unfortunately, to pass the
Speaker 3: Bird Rule, it has to be mandatory spending under the
Speaker 3: Big Beautiful Bill, and the DOGE fraud, waste and abuse
Speaker 3: they found is primarily discretionary spending, so we'll have to
Speaker 3: do that a different way. It absolutely has to be done, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: and frustratingly, it can't be done through this bill. I
Speaker 3: do think that, as you mentioned already, the CBO scoring
Speaker 3: is sort of unfair to the bill, and not surprisingly
Speaker 3: they're historically a little bit biased against Republican legislation. But
Speaker 3: they're using a growth rate of I think one point
Speaker 3: six percent, which you leave the calculation that we're going
Speaker 3: to add a bunch of money to the deficit. I
Speaker 3: think growth is going to be double that or better.
Speaker 3: You were all watching in real time the choices of
Speaker 3: dollars of not just international investment, but American companies investing
Speaker 3: in on shoring their operations. So I think the numbers
Speaker 3: are misleading. But I also agree that we need to
Speaker 3: make deeper cuts to our spending. I think this bill
Speaker 3: does a pretty good job as a first step on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess I agree with you completely about
Speaker 2: the opportunity for much much larger prosperity and growth. Businesses
Speaker 2: have to plan, and if they see tax cuts expiring
Speaker 2: and they know they're going to get hit with a
Speaker 2: bigger tax bill, they tend to contract their level of investment.
Speaker 2: So if the Senate were to move forward with this
Speaker 2: and at least include whatever that they come up with
Speaker 2: and memorialize these tax cuts as permanent, I think that
Speaker 2: creates the reliability that many businesses are looking on and
Speaker 2: will probably see even more investment.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and there's a lot of encouragement for businesses to
Speaker 3: do those. Those very things are the Tax Cuts and
Speaker 3: Jobs Act of twenty seventeen is made permanent. Here the
Speaker 3: one ninety nine a deduction for small businesses not only
Speaker 3: made permanent, but increase from twenty to twenty three percent,
Speaker 3: So businesses are getting that benefit. Whereas you know, if
Speaker 3: this bill wasn't passed, they were looking at a forty
Speaker 3: seven percent tax rate, which is just going to run
Speaker 3: an unbelievable number of small businesses completely out of business.
Speaker 3: The death tax cap is double to making small businesses
Speaker 3: and farms much more easily transferred from one generation to
Speaker 3: the next, keeping family businesses and the families crucial. Especially
Speaker 3: in the second district. We have so many family farms
Speaker 3: and other family businesses that we want to see protected
Speaker 3: for generations to come. It allows for you know, one
Speaker 3: hundred percent expensing and immediate expensing for buildings and structures
Speaker 3: used in an agricolulture. Overall, they're they're they're estimating about
Speaker 3: a ten billion dollar reduction in taxes for American farmers overall.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of very positive things in this bill.
Speaker 3: We'll see what kind of version comes back from the Senate,
Speaker 3: but I'm enthusiastic about it. And you know, as I said,
Speaker 3: it's just the first step, but it's a good.
Speaker 2: One well and something I think we're all experiencing right now.
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess you can give credit to
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. I know we're not paying nearly as
Speaker 2: much at the at the at the gas pump and
Speaker 2: I know that as far as domestic energy production is concerned,
Speaker 2: new oil and gas leasing and energy exploration exploration or
Speaker 2: part of this bill which might help even more.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, then there's even the opportunity for increased leases in
Speaker 3: for coal and timber on federal land, which could be
Speaker 3: a real boon for the Second District. I mean all
Speaker 3: over the country, but I'm always thinking about the Second District. First,
Speaker 3: of course, we have the Way National Forest, which it
Speaker 3: could be could be law responsibly, and many other opportunities
Speaker 3: for energy production in the Second District especially, I was
Speaker 3: keen to see the the iory tax credits for wind
Speaker 3: and solar rolled back Andy or they're actually eliminated. But
Speaker 3: it was super important for our district that those nuclear
Speaker 3: credits were not stripped away and those were protected because
Speaker 3: you know, we have the only American owned uranium enrichment
Speaker 3: facility in the country, and there's a lot of buzz
Speaker 3: around that area. Oh, everybody's leaning towards the small modular
Speaker 3: nuclear reactors, and that could be the epicenter of that.
Speaker 3: You know, the Second District could get back to being
Speaker 3: the energy producing capital that it once was.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more and That's one area
Speaker 2: that I'm really excited about. Small modular reactors. You don't
Speaker 2: need a giant cooling tower. They're basically cookie cutter in
Speaker 2: that you can one size fits all. They're not have
Speaker 2: to be tailor made any specific region. We do have
Speaker 2: the materials to build them and the opportunity to build them.
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with I hope next Governor VI
Speaker 2: vig Ramaswami. He is excited about the exact same thing,
Speaker 2: making Ohio the energy production capital of the country. And
Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely achievable. If we can just cut
Speaker 2: back the regulatory burden and the environmental challenges that seem
Speaker 2: to stand in the way of us getting literally anything
Speaker 2: done in this country, man, we could really make a
Speaker 2: mark in this world.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's a focus also this administration. You know,
Speaker 3: all the neeper requirements for we all want these projects
Speaker 3: to be done safely, but there's no reason that should
Speaker 3: take nine or ten years to get these things done.
Speaker 3: You know, Let's speed up the process, do it safely,
Speaker 3: do it quickly, and get the benefits roll in for
Speaker 3: Americans because all these big energy demanding businesses are coming
Speaker 3: to our area. Honestly, we're getting data centers and things
Speaker 3: like that that should require massive amounts of energy. It
Speaker 3: has to come from somewhere, It has to come from
Speaker 3: all sources in order for us to meet the demand
Speaker 3: of the future. And when it's real hot or real
Speaker 3: cold in the second district, we're redlining our ability to produce.
Speaker 3: And then we've got these big companies coming to our
Speaker 3: area that are going to demand much more. And the
Speaker 3: math doesn't work unless we start producing more energy.
Speaker 2: And I know there's a huge demand out there for
Speaker 2: military hardware and equipment, and we're seen to be behind
Speaker 2: the eight ball and keeping up with say, the likes
Speaker 2: of China in terms of, you know, building submarines and
Speaker 2: ships and the like. But one hundred and forty three
Speaker 2: billion dollars in additional defense spending, we're up to a
Speaker 2: trillion dollars. They haven't been able to pass an audit
Speaker 2: the last eight or so times. And it will doge ever,
Speaker 2: be unleashed on the Defense Department and look at their
Speaker 2: spending because something tells me that the money isn't going
Speaker 2: where it's most needed, and that's those valuable, the war
Speaker 2: fighting materials that we need to actually engage in our
Speaker 2: defense and actually to help other countries who are interested
Speaker 2: in purchasing our defense items.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there. I know there's been discussions of
Speaker 3: that being one of the their next places to go
Speaker 3: give a good look to. And no one has any
Speaker 3: like you said, no one has any big objection to
Speaker 3: two dollars being spent for our military readiness and especially now,
Speaker 3: and we have a military or Secretary of Defense that's
Speaker 3: that's focused on the things that that are Our military
Speaker 3: is supposed to do as you, as you always put
Speaker 3: so so eloquently, you kill the enemy and break their
Speaker 3: stuff exactly. Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Congressman.
Speaker 3: That's the job of the military, and they're being refocused
Speaker 3: on that. And there's thirty four billion dollars in the
Speaker 3: big beautiful bill for ship building, specifically because we're being
Speaker 3: out built at at a rate that's not even close
Speaker 3: by China, and you know, in the long run, that's
Speaker 3: a disadvantage we can't live with. Those dollars have to
Speaker 3: be spent appropriately, So I certainly hope that the DOGE
Speaker 3: team takes a good look at that and make sure
Speaker 3: those dollars are spent effectively. You know, we've got the
Speaker 3: all the military defense contractors some of the best ones
Speaker 3: in the world. But we have to make sure the
Speaker 3: dollars that we send in them are getting one hundred
Speaker 3: percent value for the taxpayers.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, flet's pause, I'll bring you back be as
Speaker 2: I know the USA Car Act is part of this.
Speaker 2: You can let my listeners know about that because I
Speaker 2: know you were behind that. Plus want to talk to
Speaker 2: you about Connor's Law, which you announced the introduction of
Speaker 2: that bill. So let's bring Congressman David Taylor back proudly
Speaker 2: again representing Ohio's second district. Be right back after these
Speaker 2: brief words.
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Speaker 2: David Taylor talking about the big beautiful bill. And I
Speaker 2: know it contains the USA car Act, you responsor, I
Speaker 2: guess Senator Bernie Moreno from Ohio sponsor that you were
Speaker 2: in favor of. But what does that do for the
Speaker 2: American people?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Thanks Brian. The credit where credits do? This was
Speaker 3: Centator Marino's idea, and we loved it. Bills get sponsored
Speaker 3: on one side or the other and somebody to take
Speaker 3: it up on the other side. So he sponsored this
Speaker 3: in the Senate and we are very happy to do
Speaker 3: so on the House side. What it does is makes
Speaker 3: your car loan interest deductible if you buy an American
Speaker 3: car fully deductible and your income taxes, which you know,
Speaker 3: it does two things. It makes cars more affordable, encourages
Speaker 3: purchase of American cars, and it creates jobs for great,
Speaker 3: good paying jobs for American workers. So it's you know,
Speaker 3: there's no real downside here, and I was glad to
Speaker 3: see it included in the in the Big Beautiful Bill
Speaker 3: because as as Congressman Winster Boys said that quoted Ronald
Speaker 3: Reagan saying, there's no limit to what can be accomplished
Speaker 3: if nobody cares who gets the credits. We just want
Speaker 3: the good stuff to get done.
Speaker 2: So does this does this a deduction come in spite
Speaker 2: of the salt deduction or the which I know is
Speaker 2: gone to forty thousand dollars if you're not itemizing because
Speaker 2: you don't have enough itemization to reach that level, do
Speaker 2: you still get to deduct the car interest payment loan
Speaker 2: on your loan.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was a little bit of a change from
Speaker 3: the original language. I believe that's going to mean. We
Speaker 3: don't know the final language of the Big Beautiful Bill honestly,
Speaker 3: but hopefully the goal on the other side is that
Speaker 3: you don't have to itemize. You get it either way.
Speaker 2: Okay, So a separate line on the income tax when
Speaker 2: you're feeling out your income tax.
Speaker 3: Fair enough.
Speaker 2: Now, something I understand you're going to be talking about
Speaker 2: later today introducing a Bill Conner's Law. And I was
Speaker 2: not aware that this was a problem, but apparently it is.
Speaker 2: Commercial drivers CDL drivers license holders can be a bit
Speaker 2: of a problem out on the roads these days because
Speaker 2: we have so many not only just illegal immigrants, but
Speaker 2: folks out there driving around that they don't understand and
Speaker 2: can't read or speak English, which when I think of
Speaker 2: road signs, I think that's a red flag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And it was a there's a President Trump
Speaker 3: issued in an executive order to that effect, and we're
Speaker 3: trying to codify that at a law because I mean,
Speaker 3: that's just a common sense Thing's get this name from
Speaker 3: a young man who was killed by a distracted truck
Speaker 3: driver who found not to be able to speak or
Speaker 3: read English. Can't read a sign that says slow down,
Speaker 3: accident ahead. You know, those kind of things obviously are unsafe.
Speaker 3: There's a million different situations where it's unsafe for a driver,
Speaker 3: especially of a big rig or a big, heavy vehicle
Speaker 3: of any kind not to be able to read warnings
Speaker 3: of what's on the road ahead. So I can't imagine
Speaker 3: this one doesn't have some bipartisan support, and hopefully we'll
Speaker 3: be able to get it across the finish line soon
Speaker 3: and make our road safer.
Speaker 2: Well, I got a big question mark floating in my head.
Speaker 2: I don't know how someone ultimately obtains a CDL permit
Speaker 2: if they can't speak English. Isn't there reading materials and
Speaker 2: things of that nature that go along with obtaining one
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 3: Well, like any other program, I'm sure you can get
Speaker 3: in whatever language you want as far as that goes.
Speaker 3: But you would think, yeah, there would have been a
Speaker 3: red flag from the beginning that if you're going to
Speaker 3: get a CDL you need to be able to read
Speaker 3: the signs on the road. Apparently that slipped through the cracks.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's a hazard for all of us out there,
Speaker 2: especially people like me who do ride motorcycles. Right, it'svang
Speaker 2: out from a size perspective. All right, Well, I guess
Speaker 2: I'm asking to read Tee Lee's Congressman David Taylor. But
Speaker 2: the Senate's going to have its way with it. I
Speaker 2: know Ran Paul came out over the debt ceiling increase
Speaker 2: and said he would never vote for something to had
Speaker 2: the increase as large as it is. I know some
Speaker 2: other Senators have expressed some concern they want more cuts.
Speaker 2: Any sense of where this is going to go? And
Speaker 2: I guess your reaction to if they do, you know,
Speaker 2: lower the debt ceiling increase or lower the salt deduction
Speaker 2: from forty grand where it is now in the BBB
Speaker 2: to something where it was like ten thousand? Will you
Speaker 2: lose House members who would reject it out of hand
Speaker 2: for those types of changes.
Speaker 3: Well, first, let me say I'm all for you know,
Speaker 3: there's obviously, as we know, more room for spending cuts,
Speaker 3: responsible spending cuts that don't hurt people who benefit from
Speaker 3: you know, needed programs like Medicare, Medicaid snap. We don't
Speaker 3: want our safety net. We caned and we can make
Speaker 3: a lot more spending cuts without doing that. That being said,
Speaker 3: we as you know, as the one vote margin to
Speaker 3: pass the big beautiful bill. So we threaded the need
Speaker 3: a little bit. Any real big change is going to
Speaker 3: make it tough when we go to conference. So now
Speaker 3: the President Trump encouraged the Senate to make changes and yeah,
Speaker 3: the boss. So I hope they may make good changes
Speaker 3: that we can all live with. And because there's so
Speaker 3: much good in this bill, the last thing I want
Speaker 3: to see happen is nothing right.
Speaker 2: Well true, Listen, everybody's got to go campaign and even
Speaker 2: the folks in New York, New Jersey and California push
Speaker 2: for the increase in salt. If they say no because
Speaker 2: of changes to that, for example, then they're the ones
Speaker 2: that have to answer their their voters and the constituents
Speaker 2: that well, because of them, we didn't get the permanent
Speaker 2: tax cuts and Ryan, which you are going to cause
Speaker 2: this economy to take off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, the salt issue is the tail that's
Speaker 3: wagging the dog. You know, it's it's, it's it's it
Speaker 3: affects very few parts of the country, but it's it
Speaker 3: is by proxy affecting everybody because it's it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's holding up so much good progress for you know,
Speaker 3: every expaying American family, every American family period. If we
Speaker 3: if we ultimately don't get us across the line because
Speaker 3: of uh, the salt situation, that will be extremely disappointed.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll look forward to legislation and shrining the DOGE
Speaker 2: cutbacks into law, and I hope you engage in efforts
Speaker 2: to get DOGE over the Department of Defense and start
Speaker 2: rifling through their records to figure out where that money
Speaker 2: is going, because I don't know. The fact that they
Speaker 2: weren't able to pass an audit like eight times in
Speaker 2: a row is troubling to me given the level of
Speaker 2: money that we send over there. Congressman David Taylor, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for your time today, and you're that
Speaker 2: you spent with my listeners of me this morning. I
Speaker 2: wish you best of luck and keep up the good fight.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian. Good to be with you.
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