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Speaker 1: Listening to your channel has given me the courage to

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get this off of my chest. It happened in two

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thousand and three. I was living in a small town

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in the central Piedmont of North Carolina. There was a

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modest brick home and a somewhat secluded area and a

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heavily wooded part of Iredale County. My nearest neighbor was

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two hundred yards away through a small patch of pine trees.

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Aside from two corn fields directly across the road, everywhere

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else was a mess of older hardwood trees. White tailed

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deer were abundant the most every evening they would come

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and eat at the edge of the fields. I made

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it a habit to sit on my porch and watch

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the deer before dark whenever I could. Twice I remember

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seeing them getting spooked and scramble across the field after

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hearing an extremely loud sound that I can only describe

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as part moan and part scream. At the time, I

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wondered if the Mountain lions were in this part of

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the country. My neighbor was a few years older than me.

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He lived in a beautiful one hundred year old Victorian

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style farmhouse that was situated on fifteen acres adjacent to

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my land. His name was James. He was ex military,

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having been discharged in nineteen ninety nine. We were pretty

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good friends. When he was away, I'd take care of

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his animals and property, and he'd return the favor. When

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I had to leave town for work. One Saturday afternoon,

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James called and asked if I wanted to do some

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shooting with my new air rifle. Of course, I replied,

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it was early October and the squirrel season was coming up.

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It was five o'clock that Saturday evening when I walked

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over to his house. James had an old barn that

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sat across the road and approximately seventy yards from his porch.

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He hung an old cast iron frying pan from a

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tree that overhung a four wheeler trail beside the barn

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that we normally used for twenty two rifles, but we

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thought it might be fun to use it with the

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air rifle. We dialed in the scope and took turns

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shooting at the frying pan. It proved to be an

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easy task to make it ring pretty loud with each shot.

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I had just made it ding three times in a

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row and had the rifle in my lap. When we

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heard it ding again, well, James looked at me and

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I looked back at him. We were at a loss.

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It dinged two more times and stopped. James took the

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rifle and fired twice, and made it ding twice and

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sat it in his lap. The pan dinged two more times.

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James looked over at the pan in the fading light

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and said, someone's messing with us. He went inside came

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back with a huge battery powered spotlight. He said, let's

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go find out who it is. We crossed the road

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and walked over to where the frying pan was hanging

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at the start of the trail. He shined the light

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into the edge of the woods, but we didn't see

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anything at all. Who's there, he yelled into the darkness.

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Limbs crunched twenty yards to the right of the trail.

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James swung the light toward the sound, and we both

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saw eyes shine that was impossibly large. They were a

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good seven feet from the ground. It was then that

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we heard no. We actually felt a low, menacing growl

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that vibrated through my chest. It was like a jake

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break on an eighteen wheeler, rattling my insides. We looked

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at each other and decided we needed the safety of

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his porch. The next day, James went over to the

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frying pan and found several smooth rocks on the ground

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beneath our target. They had to have come from the creek,

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but the creek was a quarter mile into the woods.

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I'm thinking sasquatch like to take target practice too. I

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lived there until twenty and fourteen, and only once after

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the frying pan incident do I remember hearing a strange,

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laughing type howl one night. I'm sure I'm not the

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only one in North Carolina who has heard these creatures.

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After all these years, I thought I would have been

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able to forget about it, but that bone shaking growl

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is something I guess I'll never forget. I feel better

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for having told it, and thanks for letting me get

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it off my chest. I do a lot of driving

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with my job, and I have two brothers that are

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truck drivers. When I found your channels, I told my

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brothers and we all subscribe. Well, thank you very much.

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I really appreciate that the story I'm about to tell

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you I have kept secret for thirty years. I've never

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shared this with anyone. It's always troubled me, and you'll

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see wine never told anyone. I'm in my mid fifties now,

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But when I was nineteen years old, I lived in

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the mountains of North Carolina. I hunted on public land,

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and I had a place I liked to go that

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was so hard to get to that I've never seen

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anyone else up there. It was several miles from the

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closest parking area, and you had to climb up the

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side of a ridge to get there. The first time

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I went there, the squirrels would hang down from the

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tree limbs, just curious as to what I was. I

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don't think they had ever seen a human before. Once

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at the top, there's a leveled off place where a

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huge oak tree grew and you could see clearly for

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one hundred yards before it got thick with laurel bushes. Again,

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I was up there on a Saturday and I found

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where an old, hollowed out oak had broken off five

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feet above the ground. One side had a huge crack

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running down to the ground. And I got inside and

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even hunkered down, and I could see the open area clearly.

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It was a perfect blind and I was standing in

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this blind watching for deer when I heard a commotion

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coming from the other side of the ridge north of me.

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I squatted down and I watched through the big crack.

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A small dough came over the ridge toward me, but

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I knew immediately something was wrong with her because she

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was dragging her back legs. My first thought was that

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she'd been shot by another hunter and crippled. And then

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I heard something else coming across the ridge, and it

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was not being quiet at all, and I couldn't believe

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what I was seeing. A reddish colored si squatch five

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to six feet tall came across the ridge. I'd never

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seen one of these, and although I was only nineteen

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at the time, I had spent an amazing amount of

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time in the woods. I'd even camped up here with

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no fire or tent. Ever, I had friends who had sightings,

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but I never believed them. I thought they had just

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misinterpreted what they had seen. But here one was right

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in front of me and only sixty yards away. The

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deer was trying to drag herself away, but the squatch

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would grab her and drag her away's back and then

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let her go again. Every time it would grab her,

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she let out. I guess you would call it a

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sort of a scream. It was hard to watch. Then

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the squatch put its foot right on the doe's head,

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and then it looked up into the sky and started laughing.

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Now I know this sounds crazy, but that's what it

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was doing. It was laughing. And then it let go

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of the dough and when she got so far away,

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it dragged her back. And this went on for twenty minutes.

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The more I watched this, the more angry I got.

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This beast was torturing this deer, and he was enjoying it.

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I decided that I'd had enough, and I decided to

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shoot the deer, and if this thing came after me,

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I would put it down as well. And I pulled

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my rifle up and it put its foot on the

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doe's head and it started laughing again. I don't know

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what happened in my thought process, but when I pulled

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the trigger, it was at the squatch, not the deer.

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I put around in its left die and it dropped instantly.

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My honest first thought was, damn, it was a good shot.

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My second thought was I need to reload. I slid

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another round in my seven bag and then I heard

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a freight train coming from the same ridge that the

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dough and squatch had come from. Topping the ridge was

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a huge, nine foot tall monster. She was huge and

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solid black. She stood only for a second before seeing

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what had to be her child. She jumped over to

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the younger one, and she knelt down, and she pushed

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the smaller one and made a kind of cooing noise,

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and then she made a blood curdling roar. Right then

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the dough tried to get up again. She was on

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it in a second, and she picked up the dough

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and started beating her against a nearby tree, like someone

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beating out a rug. I could barely breathe, and I

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sunk lower and lower where I was. This thing was

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throwing a tantrum like no other. She finished with a

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doe who was in no way still alive, and started

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ripping up three to six inch saplings and breaking them

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like toothpicks. After twenty minutes of running back and forth,

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she started to wear down, and she went back to

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the smaller one and laid down beside it, and then

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started what I can only describe is crying. And it's

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one of the saddest things I've ever witnessed. Her moaning

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will haunt me for the rest of my life. She

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picked up her child and went back over the ridge,

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howling with sadness, and as her wails of pain gradually

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faded off in the distance, I got up and I

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left the area. I've never been so scared in my

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life since then, and I've never been back to that area,

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but I do still hunt. I've never shared this because

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I'm ashamed of what I did. I'm certainly not excusing

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my actions, but anyone in my shoes could have done

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the same thing. I'm not saying they would have, but

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they could have. Well that's all I have to say.

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Thanks for reading my story. Keep up the great work.

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We really love the Steve Lilly stories. And he's saying

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he signs the email. In nineteen seventy four, my family

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had an experience with Bigfoot near Marango Caves in Indiana.

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I was only four years old then. I don't remember

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everything about the event, but the family has talked about

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it for years. We lived on her road with all

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our family, and there were several houses lying down this road,

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and we were all kin. My aunt Chloe lived alone

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across the road from us. Her husband had died years earlier,

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and at almost ninety years old, she did pretty good

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for herself. She was a tough old country girl who

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was never afraid to work. She would put in a

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nice garden every year all by herself. Sometimes she needed help,

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and my family was always there when she needed us.

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Late one night, we heard a gunshot from her yard.

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My father ran across to see what was going on.

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On the back porch was Aunt Chloe, with smoke rolling

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out of the shotgun barrel. Aunt Chloe, what are you

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shooting at It's a big hairy man was out here

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eating mightamatis. I never saw so much hair on a man.

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We lived a way out in the country, and with

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our area being inhabited by family, we never saw anyone

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out there who didn't belong or wasn't family. A stranger

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in one of our yards required us to see who

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it was, and people sure didn't walk around our gardens

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at night picking and eating vegetables. My father looked around

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and the garden had been trampled. Some of the tomato

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plants looked bare of fruit. Aunt Chloe wasn't lying or

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imagining this. Something had been there. My father and my

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uncle Red told Aunt Chloe to get inside and lock

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the door. Then they took off in the woods behind

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the house looking for this man. They found a path

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where the man had apparently traveled. It looked like an

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elephant had torn a path behind Aunt Chloe's house. Limbs

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were broken up as high as seven feet, but they

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never found the man. The night finally settled down and

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everyone went back to sleep, but they were on alert

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for a few days. The topic of discussion was about

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the hairy man Aunt Chloe had shot, but as far

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as I know, an event like this never happened again.

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After this, my father watched and read anything in everything

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to do with Bigfoot or other cryptids. I don't remember

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a time when he was not interested in the subject.

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That one event captured my father's imagination for the rest

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of his life. And you know, that's how it goes.

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I mean, we've got a couple of stories just in

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this podcast where people are they see these things and

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they're consumed. This man didn't even see it. He just

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knew that his aunt had shot at one and it

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still consumed him, and he read about it for the

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rest of his life. It fascinates me how these experiences

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really captivate people and set them on a road of

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almost obsession to learn and read about these things. It's

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amazing to me. That's one thing that I've really gathered

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through the three years that I've put these stories together.

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When that dog gets on this trail, it won't get

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off of it, if you know what I mean. In

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the nineteen sixties, the Texas county I was born and

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raised in covered five hundred square miles. We had one

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school for the entire county, and all twelve grades were

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tached buildings connected by the cafeteria. At that time, all

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of the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex had a population of

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one point five million people. The same area now has

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seven point six million people as of twenty eighteen, and

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now I'm thinking it's probably over ten million. Fort Worth

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was the closest large town to us, and it was

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a full day trip. Only once or twice a year

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would we make that trip. We didn't have indoor plumbing

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or running water, and that's how it was for ranchers

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in rural Texas. We lived on a section of land

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that had been in my family since the Texas Revolutionary

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War when it was deeded to my family for participation

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in that war. We owned one square mile of land.

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September of nineteen sixty five was unusually wet. Our property

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bordered the Brazos River and there were several runs in

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creeks that had been flooded for many weeks. It was

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impossible for me to meet up with my closest friend

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that lived nearly a mile away across the past in

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the wooded creek ravines. So one day I finished my

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chores when I got home from school, and I saddled

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up my horse to meet up with Eric in an

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open area between our properties. It was a lowland area

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and it flooded with only modest runoff from the rain.

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It was fenced off to keep our livestock from getting

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into and sinking in the mud. Yes, cows are that stupid.

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I saddled up and was headed to see Eric. When

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I reached their usual meeting point and he wasn't there.

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That was not altogether unusual, due to our chores taking

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longer some days than others. Three gates and forty five

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minutes later, I arrived at his house, where he was

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finishing up work on a tractor with his father. It

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was also about that time that his mother rang the

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dinner bell for them to come and eat. I was

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invited to join them, as was the custom, and we

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washed up and took a seat at the table. While

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we were eating, the rain started again, and I knew

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my ride home would be a wet one. Yet it

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was nothing I had not done. Before I finished eating,

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and I thanked missus Emma for my dinner, and I

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asked to be excused to make my way back home.

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I was asked to spend the night or Eric's father

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would give me a ride home. I could pick up

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my horse from the barn the next day. They said, well,

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I was pondering what I wanted to do, and I

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remembered that I had not removed the saddle from Ivan,

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my horse. Eric and his father walked with me out

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to the barn, and the rain had quit and the

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sky was clear and a full moon shone overhead. I

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could cut my travel time in half if I went

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straight through the ravines. It was a straight line from

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where I was to our house. I told Eric's father

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that I would take the north Pass and that would

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take me two hours. And I told Eric that I

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would see him at school the next day. Ivan and

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I took off at a full gallop across the pasture

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nearest the bar, and reached the first gate in no time.

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After closing the gate, I turned south. I reached the

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south end of the pasture, and I turned east where

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I came to a fence line. There's a cut in

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the fence that Eric and I used all the time.

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The bright moonlight was blocked by the trees, but still

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I knew my way, and my worry was how much

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runoff there had been from the rain. I knew the

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first creek crossing would be the hardest. The banks were

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soft and usually hard for a horse to climb, but

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the second crossing would be easier. The creek bottom was

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rock and gravel there. When I got to the first

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creek crossing, I was surprised it had not topped its banks.

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It looked easier than I had anticipated. Ivan and I

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made our way upstream to a point just below a

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bend in the creek, where it got shallow, and Ivan

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knew the route. He waded in without hesitation. On other

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crossings in the past, the water was never up to

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his girth strap, but this time it was now. I

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pulled my feet from the stirrups and I gave him

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his head. He knew where he was going, and after

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crossing that creek, the barn was only a quarter mile away.

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We arrived at the second creek crossing that was fifty

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yards from the fence that would lead me to the barn.

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The creek bank on the west side where I was

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entering was low but a bit rocky, and Ivan would

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sometimes place his hoof two or more times before he

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was happy with his footing, and then he would take

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the next step. We had a full creek in fifteen

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yards to reach the other bank, and beyond that there

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were mesquite trees that lined the banks, and it made

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the last fifty yards completely dark. We made it to

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the bank and I gave Ivan his head again and

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he picked up speed to climb out of the river.

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It was muscle memory for him because we had crossed

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there many times. With my head down and leaning into

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his climb, Ivan leveled out and trotted toward the trees.

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We entered that last stretch under the darkness of the trees.

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Ivan was only a horse length into the darkness, and

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he stopped. Had I not been holding onto the saddle horn,

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I would have launched over his head. Ivan snorted and

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shook his head and started moving backwards. It was dark,

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but I immediately saw what spoke to my horse. In

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front of us and slightly to the right was something

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I had never seen. In the saddle, my head was

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over seven feet off the ground, and this head was

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higher than mine. Fear is not something that comes natural

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to those of us that grow up in the country,

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and even at nine, I was doing my best to

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evaluate my situation. I knew every inch of the ground

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that I was traveling and every animal that was there,

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and I had worked that land with my father from

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the time I was big enough to sit on his lap.

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Ivan backed up until he felt his left rear hoof

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slip and he froze in place, still snorting and shaking

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his head. I was trying to understand what I was seeing,

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and then a lightning strike lit the area and I

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could see the eight foot tall creature. The huge head

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and the long arms are what imprinted in that fraction

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of a second of light. I felt fear as the

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thunder rumbled, and I rained Ivan to the left and

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headed north along the west bank with no concern of

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my own safety. My mind was still reeling and trying

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to understand what I had seen. Ivan got us to

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the fence line where it crossed the creek on his own,

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and I turned Ivan's out down the fence line to

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the gate, and I could feel my horse's urgency in

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fear under me. I didn't go to the barn. I

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rode right up to the back door that entered the mudroom,

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and I didn't bother taking off my boots. I walked

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into the house where my mother was cleaning up after dinner.

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That moment she looked at me. She stopped what she

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was doing, and she said, Dan, what's wrong. My father

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was in earshot, and he came into the kitchen within

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a few seconds. If you are a boy in the South,

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there is a mistake that you will make only one time.

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I do not recall my age when I made that mistake,

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but I was no older than five years old, and

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the only time I ever lied to my father. When

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I told him the events that I just told you,

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he asked me only two questions. One was to repeat

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what exactly happened when Ivan stopped and started backing up.

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I told her that he backed up until there was

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no safe footing for him, and he continued to snort

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and shake his head, even with my hands and the reins.

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The second question was are you sure it was not

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a man? And I told him that I was sure.

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Dad walked towards me and he said, let's go in

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the mudroom. He put on his boots and hat, he

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strapped on his gun belt, and he grabbed a rifle.

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He handed me the shotgun. Dad checked ivan over and

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then he told me to meet him at the barn.

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When I got there, my father had his horse, Dixie,

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saddled and ready to go. And for the first time,

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I asked, what is that? Dad? He lit a kerosene

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lantern and he said, Dan, I don't know, but I've

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heard stories about these things from grandpap Rod. Now grandpap

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Rod was my grandfather. He lived till he was one

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hundred and seven years old, and he died in nineteen

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seventy two. We took a different route to the place.

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We were heading through the north gate. I had no fear.

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I was with my father. He had been a cowboy

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all his life and had worked this land with his

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father and his grandfather. Dad held the lantern over his

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head from time to time. The floods early in the

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month had left to breathe in the treetops and in

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the light of the lantern, it was a surreal scene.

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My father watched the ground in front of Dixie, and

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then his hand raised and we stopped. My father quietly dismounted,

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and when his colt in his right hand and a

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lantern in the other, he made his way to where

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I saw the creature. He was low and he was

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following tracks on the ground. He turned the corner, going

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into the woods where Ivan and I had been when

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we saw it, and when he did, I lost sight

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of him. I was in the dark alone again, and

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it felt like an But finally I saw the lantern

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light moving through the trees. Dad had it held high

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over his head. Dan, come on back here, I heard

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him say. I dismounted and I started walking. I could

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see him just ten feet ahead of me, holding the

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lantern up and looking at something in the tree. And

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in the light I could see a deer had drowned

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in the flood, and it was hung up in the

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tree eight or ten feet up. Debris was hung in

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its antlers, making its head look bigger than it was.

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The body was bloated and rotting, and it smelled horrible.

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We never found the creature I saw, but I think

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this rotting deer is why it was there. I know

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that is not the ending most people were hoping for,

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but that is exactly how it happened.

