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All right, we're gonna get into a little college football segment.
We've been trying to delve into some data. If it
is true that what Kyle Whittingham has stated, if you
spend the most, you win the most. Texas Tech has
spent the most this year, and therefore they're winning the most.
That is the team to beat, said Kyle winning him.
It's all about money, is what he's saying. That's it.
It's all about money. So that's how he's evaluating it.
Whether or not we agree or disagree with this, I
guess you're subject of interpretation. Who are the biggest spenders
in college football? I think Ohio State spending a lot
of money. They're at the top of the food chain
right now. You want to think that Notre Dame spends
a lot of money. Miami spent a lot of money
this offseason and they look really good. So if you
take the top ten teams right now in college football, Brett,
do you see the biggest spenders as well in college football?
Out of the top ten currently, what do you make
of it?
Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's just pull up the AP top
twenty five real quick and just just give it a
good old run through Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my guess is Indiana is not spending on a
top ten level. No, Like Kurt Signetti, it sounds like
it's just I mean, he said, google me.
Speaker 2: All I do is win Like, Yeah, Texas A and
M is definitely spending, and yes, oh missus spends. Alabama
definitely spending, Texas Tech definitely spending. Oregon. We know they're spending.
Georgia spending LSU Tennessee. And we know for a fact
that Tennessee spenting because they took two of our best players,
Keendan Peeley and you gave Judy Lalley like three years
ago in order to get them out of BYU.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Georgia Tech is spending on a
top ten level.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Twel Notre Damian's definitely spending some some
mood laws Oklahoma. Oklahoma has always been spending. You wonder
where BYU football is currently at right and and we
know that from a basketball standpoint, Yeah, yeah, the the
donors have stepped up. If this whole ol it's true,
What if BYU is the second biggest spender in the
Big twelve right now, behind only Texas Tech. If that
is true, then BYU ends up in Arlington versus Texas Tech.
I don't know if they are.
Speaker 3: And part of the reason I say that comes from
what we heard from Acetabantsa this week, which, if you
haven't read it, Slam Magazine. Yeah, I know you're saying, wait,
why are we talking about basketball? Let me explain to
you if you haven't seen it. There's an incredible Slam
Magazine article with ajda Bonza where we got a little
bit of insight that we didn't officially know previously about
how much money Aj Debonta was paid to come to BYU. Now,
the funny part about Aj choosing BYU was A said
we never told him how much any of the teams
were offering because we didn't want him to just pick
the place with the most money. So then when Aj
told Ace, hey, I want to come to BYU, he said,
that's crazy because you didn't pick the school who was
offering the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says. Funny thing is that we never told
him how much money any of the schools were offering.
We wanted to go about the recruiting process very differently
from others. My wife and I decided not to tell
him because we didn't want money to be a factor
in his decision. So he came into my room one
day and said, Dad, I'm going to BYU. I said
what he repeated, I'm going to BYU. Then I asked,
y BYU? He says, K why coach Kevin Young? He said, Dad,
I want to be a pro. He came from the Pros.
He coached one of my favorite players, Kevin Durant. He
coached d Book, He coached CP three. AJ reached out
to Kevin Durant to ask about KHY. Coach brought up
an analytics staffer from the Suns. He brought the nutritionist
from the Suns. The strength and conditioning coach came from
the Milwaukee Bucks. He's like, Dad, I'm going to BYU.
Not only did he not know how much money each
school was offering, but he also didn't even end up
picking the school that was offering the most money. There
were schools that offered more. If it was about the money,
we could have just went to BA and said, hey,
so and so is offering this much more, just to
get more money for AJ to come here. All these
crazy numbers were thrown around in the media, but people
don't even know AJ knows now what he got, but
people just wanted to speculate. So there you go. That's
the uh. That was some of the quotes from SLAM.
Speaker 3: So the reason I bring that up is to say,
if BYU didn't have to outbid the highest bidder to
get the number one guy in the country, and I
get there were some other extenuating circumstances. Kevin Young is
a little bit different in his relationship with Aj Debonsa,
But my point just being if they could get that
guy given adding other things into the mix besides just money. Look,
I think Bou's spending at a top twenty five basis.
I'm not saying they're just asking for the Mormon discount
from everybody. I'm just saying I don't think BYU is
in a top ten spending phase. My guess is they're
probably somewhere between twenty to twenty five, and I certainly
don't think there's the they're the second highest spenders in
the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about money. Let's talk about some money and
finances with Vanderwealth Bantererwealth dot Com, Blaine Anderson Blaine, how
that are you today?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, excited for the weekend, happy to be here.
Thanks Ben, Yeah, I appreciate you. Biggest spenders in business?
Do they always win in business?
Speaker 2: Do you think?
Speaker 4: No? I don't think so. And I also think when
it comes to money, whether we like it or not,
it is what makes the world go around. I understand
certainly people's feeling about that, but for those who know,
money's just a byproduct a good quality work, and a
lot of times that's how we are rewarded. But the
way I see it, it's just a byproduct. It's something
that you can quantify, and it's for production, for good
quality work. And no, they don't always win.
Speaker 2: What's interesting is in college athletics, and we're seeing this
in in in you know, the NFL, NBA and things
of that nature. Private equity wants to get involved. Private
equity wants to get involved, and and that's intriguing, that's
very intriguing. People want this influx of cash, this UH,
this this liquid cash in order to maybe invest UH
in their UH, into their W nine employees, their their
depth charts, et cetera. Maybe they want to utilize it
for for other things, but they want additional funds in
order to continue in this arms race. So, uh, you
currently at Vanderwelth, You guys got kind of an interesting
opportunity here. Uh, let's continue down that line of thinking. Uh,
I've heard that private investors are starting to look also
at opportunities. You have private equity and others trying to
get into the sports industry and invest in teams. Uh,
things like stadium projects, team related businesses. What's driving this
trend and what should accredited investors know about funds like this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an interesting concept and something that's fairly
new within professional sports. There was some legislation even just
within the last five years around the NFL, NBA, Major
League Baseball where teams can sell a minority interest in
their club, in their team. And so there's a lot
of development happening around stadiums if you look at the
Dallas Cowboys, the Atlanta Falcons, even a lot happening right
now with the Las Vegas Aces. But they're building out
a true experience. It's not just the game.
Speaker 2: It's the.
Speaker 4: Hotels around the stadium, it's the restaurants, it's the activities
and so a lot of a fair amount of teams,
even teams like the New York Yankees, are opening up
a small minority position within the club for investors and
for private equity to come in and be a part
of that further development. Investors get a small piece of
the ownership of the team. And it's something a little different.
It's something that Benderwilt that we have access to. I
was just in Atlanta last week. I've met with some
of the general partners with the fund. Mark Cuban even
happens to be one. So it's an interesting twist on investments. Yes,
there's been a lot of growth in this space, but
it is being opened up to private equity and something
that we're doing at band Erwealth.
Speaker 2: So for private investors there's a minority stake, fractionalized ownership
of teams that they can find a return an investment on.
So like, if you're a fan, you got some money,
you can get in on this and you can have
even more skin in the game for your team. That
would be interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, one of the teams at
the top of the list that I was surprised by
is the New York Yankees. The San Francisco Giants in
Las Vegas with the A's coming the Las Vegas Aces,
they're really building out and it just has to do
with more than the team itself. And so yes, it's
for accredited investors. There are risks involved, it's got an
element of illiquidity, and there's certainly components. So this isn't
by any means meant to serve as a recommendation, just
giving you an idea of some of the options, some
of the different things that we do at BAND orwealth Management.
I know even in Marcumber with them, it is pretty
select and not just available to the general public. But
an interesting twist on how sports continues to evolve. This
is happening on the professional level, probably not a surprise.
I wonder if it'll ever get down to college.
Speaker 2: I think it will. I think it will trickle down
now a private institution such as BYU that you know,
I don't know if they'll ever allow the AD to
now already, guys, so everybody knows that like the AD
operates separately from the institution itself, it gets to eat
what it killed. So any money that they raise okay
for the athletic department stays within the athletic department. It
is self sufficient. They are not taking on like student
fees and other things, or tithing money, none of that.
And so I don't know if they'll ever allow for
investors to come in, but that would be very interesting
if it was operating at its own as its own LLC,
and then you you know, you would have an investment
arm of the athletic department. I don't know. I don't
know how it would happen within you know, within the
institution itself where they would allow it, but it would
be interesting.
Speaker 4: Well, you were talking earlier about this race, this money race,
the arms race, of what's happening with college sports. It's
just hearsay, but I've heard rumblings of things like that
happening at Ohio State. And where does it stop. I
don't know. I can tell you I'm seeing it firsthand
in professional sports and around the development of the stadiums,
the contracts with media rights, things like that, and that's
what's opening up this investment arm. And from what I've
seen with these funds, they're selling five to ten percent
of the team and that's being invested by private investors
and firms like ours, I just wonder where it'll stop
and if it ever will reach college sports.
Speaker 2: A couple of last things here with your accredit investors
and exploring maybe some of these opportunities in areas like
sports in sports infrastructure. I've also heard something similar when
it comes to another space, energy, specifically oil and gas.
What's drawing investor interest there? How does this fit maybe
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com and give me a score prediction. How do you
see this BYU Utah game? Playing out the advanced analytics
match these two teams up very closely. It is the
Spider Man meme game in my opinion, very few differentiating
statistics efficiency wise, effectiveness wise. How do you see this game? BYU?
Is a dog three and a half, But as Gurney
pointed out, Vegas is built to get bets, not to
predict wins and or losses. But ESPN analytics actually slightly
favors b YU in this game. What do you got?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that. I will. I can't imagine it being
much closer than it was last year.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, gracious, that.
Speaker 4: Was already a nail bider, and it does. I'm a
little nervous. I mean, I think after seeing last week
Utah versus Arizona State, the thumping that they put on them,
I'm sure they're they're ticked off and ready to go
after last year. So I think we're gonna their very best.
But of course I'm gonna be optimistic and go with
our guys. I think it'll be another nail Bier and
I'll call it twenty one to twenty.
Speaker 2: Let's go. A win is a win is a win.
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talk some college football with one of our favorite guests,
Tim Brown of RGS six tiers. Timmy, how you living man?
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6: Look man, life's good. I'm on more my last regular
season high school game of the year. We got rivalry
game tomorrow. What's better?
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed love it. I want to talk to you
about spending money. We've been talking about dollar dollar bills
over the last hour or so in the If we
look at the top fifteen right now in the A
people many would say, hey, these are the biggest spenders
in college football, not only from an organizational design standpoint,
like they're spending money on their internal infrastructure, their coaches,
et cetera. And also they're allocating the donors are allocating
a lot of money to the one outlier I would
say right now in the football realm is actually Indiana.
Signetti though just signed an eight year, ninety three million
dollar deal in Indiana, But up to this point, I
don't know how much help he's had an nil or
in you know, salaries for his coaching staff. Kyle Whitningham
went all record and said, like, hey, the biggest spenders
are winning the most games in this new era. Would
you agree or disagree with him?
Speaker 6: And I would say, Indiana's got the money there somewhere,
we just don't see it yet. But I don't think
he would have taken that job, and I don't think
you would have stayed without knowing that he has money
back in him.
Speaker 2: Crazy. Yeah, I mean, so the money is there. So
my question is, who do you think is the second
biggest spender in the Big twelve? If that correlates, if
more money spent equals more wins in the win column,
Who's the second biggest spender in the Big twelve? Who's
going to be in Arlington at the end of the
year because text Tech is the big the big hitter.
Speaker 6: It's tough, right, I don't know. I mean it might
be BYU. We may not even know. And that's the
one thing with BYU being a private institution. It's a
little bit harder to final numbers. But b YU might
be the next one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they may be number two, right, I mean, there's
some people that think that, and and it's like, maybe
that's what we find out at the end of the
year after the schedule, you know, because the resources that
each of these schools have allocated, respectfully to their football
program very well could correlate to the end of year standings.
But how you feel about this holy war right now
BYU versus Utah? Where do you lean?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 6: I think, look at I'm super excited. It's gonna be
a really good game. I've been saying for a week.
I think the edge. I don't want to be a politician,
but I think, really if the linebackers and safety corps
is healthy for BYU, which we haven't been the life
two weeks. But if we're healthy, I think BYU has
got a really good chance. If they're not, then I
think Utah will win it. So I think it really
is going to depend on that back post core, that
front seven, maybe some of the safeties. If we're going
to bring a nickel coming down and we got to
do some way to spy you know, the quarterback, there's
gotta be some way to control that. And so that
that defensive place is going to be critical. Anytime you
started too freshman, I don't care who it is at
quarterback position, you've got to have a good defense to
help him.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this anytime, Let you know Utah
and be what you're doing great. Their top twenty five teams,
they they this may be a Texas Tech won Utah
by U two in the rankings this year, and so
on and so forth. Whenever you have a top twenty
five team like this, at the end of the year,
the job openings of college football come calling for coordinators
at those high level schools that are winning at a
high level. I'm looking at Morgan, Scalley Hill right, Jason Beck,
Aaron Roderick right now, Penn State, Oregon State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, UCLA,
Virginia Tech, Stanford, UAB, Kent State. They all have openings
right now. Do you think that any one of these
coaches within the robbery will get poached in the offseason, Well, I.
Speaker 6: Think everyone of them are gonna get called now. Whether
they'll leaves of different questions. I mean, I don't think
Morgan's Kelly is. I think it's a Dundale. He's gonna
be in Utah next year or the year after. The
one that I worry about the most is Jay Hill. Honestly,
I mean, Jay Hill to me is the most important
coach at BYU and I love Klannie, but Jay Hill
is more important to me than Klania.
Speaker 4: Is right now.
Speaker 6: So b Y, he's got to do whatever they got
to do to keep him and keep him there. Roderick's great,
we love him, but I would much rather dose him
than I would Jay Hill.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wait, wait, did you just say you think Jay
Hill's more valuable than Kilane. That's that's a very aggressive tape.
Speaker 6: I love Kalani. I think Klani is outstanding, but I
think Jay Hill is more important to the program right now,
no question.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean I disagree, but I understand where you're coming from,
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prediction in the Holy War and why are you picking
that score?
Speaker 6: Well, so this is all I've been saying all week.
I'm going to go twenty four to twenty one. And
assuming the live actors are healthy, then it's BYU. If
they're not and they don't play, I mean they're scheduled
to play, we'll see if they don't. Then I'm gonna
say twenty four to twenty one in Utah. But let's
just hope that all the live actors playing we're healthy
and we get a W. J Hill did what you
said earlier, the winner, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. J Hill stated that Jack Kelly will play
in this game.
Speaker 6: By the way, Yes he did. Whether he actually plays
and whether he's healthy is a different story. But if
he plays and he's healthy, then that would be my count.
And I also think that the winner of this game
is going to play Texas second the championship for the
Big felve Championship, So I think this game is that important.
Speaker 2: There you go. That's Tim Brown RDS six Steers. Contact
him today, let him know we sent you. Thanks so much, Tim.
Speaker 6: Thanks much, and have a great weekend and go Kooks.
Speaker 2: Yes indeed BYU versus Utah. A robbery game O Holy
war game BYU and Utar. Meeting for the ninety seven
time in this long standing robbery BYU trails the series
thirty three to fifty nine in their win loss column.
The Cougars won the last two meetings twenty six to
seventeen with a winning provo, and in twenty twenty one.
They got to win at Rice Ecle Stadium twenty two
twenty one and shocked the world with two consecutive victories
that forced it was the catalyst behind and Mark Harlan's rant, like,
out of all the things that have occurred in the
robbery game, like, what's the craziest thing to happen over
the last fifty years between fans, between coaches, between ads. Obviously,
we've had cheerleaders pummel fans. We've had Kyle Whittingham's family,
you know, get assaulted. We've had Max Hall have beer
thrown on his family. We've had Derek Stevenson's dad in
fights with fans and Derek went up into the stands.
We've had Mark Harlan run onto the field of play
an ad and then take over the pulpit, like, I
don't know if they're like we just had a BYU
fan arrested for threats on social media saying he's gonna
kill Utah fans. There was a Utah student a couple
of years ago that said, like, if if Utah loses that,
he's gonna detonate some sort of nuclear reactor. Guys, I
don't know, you know, what's the craziest outlandish thing that's
occurred in this rivalry game. But I want to at
least ask you, Brad always bring the hammer? What would
you make of it?
Speaker 5: Oh Man?
Speaker 3: And then the other question that I would pose back
to you is does every rivalry have something like this?
Because to my knowledge, Michigan Ohio State hasn't had an
ad run out onto the field. I don't think Auburn, Georgia,
Auburn Alabama, Abtnity, Georgia, Tennessee like I don't think any
of those have had anything to the magnitude. But again,
I think, what is the thing? You always say something
breeds enmity?
Speaker 2: What's the word proximity breeds enmity? And then BYU and
Utah only forty miles apart.
Speaker 3: And then again you throw in the family, the religion,
the holier than now, the you think that you're holier
than now, you throw its state. All that stuff just
mixes for the worst concoction known to the college football landscape.
And in some ways it almost feels like the Kalani
of they don't know what they're about to find out.
It feels like the rest of the country they don't know.
But this rivalry they're about to find out.
Speaker 2: Yep, BYU is one of eleven FBS teams remaining that
are still undefeated. Of the eleven, only Texas Tech and
Bill You remain from the Big twelve. In twenty twenty four,
member bo He made it nine to zero before suffering
its first defeat on November sixteenth. Hopefully they don't experience
their first defeat this week versus the Utes. All right, guys,
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ninety two. Gonna get into another faux segment. We caught
up with Nate Ritchie b Yu starting safety yesterday. Ronald
the three Man Weaver was able to interview him. We're
gonna play that interview for you so you can get
to the foe at a higher level. Nate Richie's out
this game unfortunately, so he will not be playing for
the Utes. I think this is a devastating loss for
the University of Utah. Nate Richie was a quarterback on
the back end of that defense. And look, I don't
know who's going to replace them. I don't know if
they have anyone that can replace them. You may see miscommunication,
You may see a little bit of chaos in the
on the defensive side of the ball, quite honestly, because
I don't know if they know where and how to
line up. I know Morgan Skyle is going to do
his best, but Nate Ritchie was a big loss. Is
a big loss for the University of Utah. We'll get
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let's get to it. Ronald the three man Weaver catching
up with Nate Richie, starting safety for the University of
Utah USA team.
Speaker 7: He's a ballershot caller. Wish he was in blue, I
have to do say that, but he's in red and
that's okay. He's been playing phenomenal this season. Not gonna
play this game again. Don't know if that's good or
bat Maybe that's good for BIU, but still is Utah
team good? We got Nate Ritchie with his brother. How
you doing today, good, good man? Just evaluate you know
the season in your eyes for the first six weeks,
you guys are five and one. You're coming off a
phenomenal win against a very good Arizona State team. You
guys are ranked number twenty three.
Speaker 8: Now, Yeah, I mean it's been a great season so far.
I mean it always starts in the trenches in fall camp,
beating up to the first couple of games, and I think,
you know, there's always gonna be some bumps of the
road for a team. I think we've had those, and
I think we've gotten over them, and I think we're
continuing to climb.
Speaker 7: Could you take me through your locker room? In the mindset,
the national media sometimes and maybe even local people overemphasize things,
Texas Tech, as we know right now, is the best
team in the conference. But I feel like there's still
a little bit of disrespect because people feel like that lost.
They're equivalating everything. You guys blow West Virginy out, You
take care of business on the road, You take care
of a business against Arizona State. Now you have another
opportunity to get another top twenty five win this Saturday
and gets another ball club.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean, shoot, honestly, in the locker room, as the players,
we try to tune all that out because at the
end of the day, that's just noise. I mean, at
the end of the day, we're trying to come together
more as a team. We're trying to come together more
as you know, a Utah family and continue to produce
and show the nation that you know, sometimes you are
wrong and we're gonna continue to fight and always do
that because you know, nobody's nobody's been in the trenches
with us. You know, through throughout the whole entire year,
it's only been us. So that's the only thing that matters.
Speaker 3: What's it like having to practice against the guy like
Devin Dampier.
Speaker 5: Man, he's good.
Speaker 7: He's good.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 8: Uh, all the all the praise I could ever say
and gives that.
Speaker 5: Man, I can give it to him. Man, he's not
only is.
Speaker 8: He a stellar athlete, a stellar quarterback, he's a stellar guy,
super super awesome guy, super kind, one of the great
one of the best leaders on our team. You know,
everyone loves him. I mean that's just off the field.
On the field, he's a he's a dog man. He's
he can do anything you want him to do. He's
dual threat. He's I don't know, it's hard to defend.
He's just a dog.
Speaker 7: I do like to ask this because I love asking players.
Did you have a chance and training camp to get him?
Did you get him one time to get him.
Speaker 8: I can't even remember. It feels like forever ago. I
think they're you know, I don't think I ever got him.
I don't think I ever got him. I'll have to change,
and I don't have to change.
Speaker 7: I love it. I love the competitiveature on this field.
What makes this team so good and so competitive? Uh,
you gave me a piece of it right there.
Speaker 8: I mean, shoot, just like collectively we got we got
a great culture of just togetherness, like I mean, just
playing for each other, playing for something bigger, playing for
you know, us, turning out all the external noise, because
at the end of the day, it's just noise.
Speaker 5: You know, all that matters is us.
Speaker 8: And like I've been saying, like nobody has gone through
what we've gone through, and in the in the year's time,
starting in January to yeah, even December, you know, after
last year was an unfortunate year where we.
Speaker 5: That's not you know, that's not us.
Speaker 8: So it's been it's been a long time for us
to be able to think and to be able to
continue to think of where we want to be to
this day. And so it's just taking a lot of
hard work, a lot of mental maturity, a lot of
I mean everyone just putting in their work and then
coming together as a team and putting it, putting our
work together, just to continue to come out and be
better every day and most importantly, play for each other
and forget everything else outside of that.
Speaker 3: You get to sit behind one of maybe the best
pass rusher in all of college football, and John Henry Daily.
What's that like knowing, Hey, I only have to do
this for so long because I know John Dan Henry
Daily's getting home.
Speaker 5: John harry Man, that's my dog.
Speaker 8: You know, not only John Henry got we got a
heck of a d line, but I mean John Henry
I've known that kid. We went to high school together,
and I love that guy. He is a dog, He's
a fighter, and you know, there's always gonna people that
doubt There's always gonna be people that doubt him, and
the advice that I have to those people are stopped
because He's.
Speaker 7: Gonna keep proving you on.
Speaker 8: And not only him, but I mean, you got on
the other side, Logan Final, you got our d tackles,
Dallas Bakalai, you got Jon you got all those dudes
that rotate in. You got cash dealing like those are
all some stellar dudes that are physical or are smart who
know what's coming. So, I mean, shoot, we got a
great front and I love my boy John.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 3: What did you think when you found out, Okay, Smith
Snowton's also gonna play a little bit of offense.
Speaker 5: Shoot, I mean that was a surprise to me. I mean,
but why not?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: Why not? I loved it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Smith is Ah. When I heard that, Okay, he's
gonna go to offense, I said, just why why you
gotta do that? Just just keep on defense. He's fine
in the cornerback room. No one asked you. You don't
have to dominate as to be a busy body and
get creative, you know. I mean, I mean to bring
Smith and Lander, who was recruited as a tight end
at places, right, it's funomenal a lot of people. I mean, well,
he didn't play tight. No, he was recruited and tight,
and he played that nice. He played both. Lots of
people forget lots of high school athletes, guys played two
sides of the ball. He just plays linebacker. Now, so
you got two of your best athletes, you know, on defense,
now playing on offense. You mentioned John Henry Dayla. I
just want to go back to that point in touch
and that maybe other people need to stop down. But
I don't think there's a b YU fan out there
when that when that transfer happened, I think BO fans
will stop through the hard bond Jovie. I think they
were hurt. Really, I'm serious, because when he left that
said that's gonna be a difficult one to watch the
Walkway because of what he's putting on this season. And
I want to go back to that. You said the offseason,
what motivated you guys from last season and how it ended?
From this season, you guys have made a full one
to eighty.
Speaker 8: In my opinion, I think a lot of the motivation
just comes from knowing that what we produced last year.
Speaker 5: Is not us.
Speaker 8: Not only on a collection level, individual level, that was
just a lot of not us.
Speaker 7: It's kind of just, I know, it's just weird and
how it.
Speaker 8: Ended, and you know, we accept that and we we
just look back and we learned from it all and.
Speaker 5: Just want to be able to show.
Speaker 8: The country and show everybody who each of us are
individ players because you know there're some dogs up there,
and you know we playing together as a team shoot,
it's it's deadly.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you guys have been able to shut out,
almost shut out some people to the defensive stack. Talk
about Morgan Scully, what does it like playing in that scheme?
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's so fun. One of the.
Speaker 8: Smartest men football wise and off the field as well.
Speaker 5: He's a great man. I love, He's a great mentor,
he's a great, great example.
Speaker 8: But I mean, shoot, the positions that he puts us
in as defensive backs, let alone linebackers, you know, detackles.
Speaker 5: Just the schemes and the.
Speaker 8: The pressures that he's able to drop and you know,
create sunmatched and the way he calls the way he
calls the game.
Speaker 5: There's no one else in the country that does it
that way.
Speaker 8: So it's it's special, I mean, and for me as
a player, And it's special to be in the position room
with him.
Speaker 7: Specifically too, because I get a lot. I get to
pick his brain.
Speaker 8: I get to learn a lot from him and continue
to elevate my game, you know, not only on the field.
Speaker 2: But all right, having a little technical difficulty with the
sound there, apologize, but Brett, you were there interviewing Nate Richie.
Give me some of the takeaways that you got from
Nate if you would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun to hear him talk about growing
up as a BYU fan, and so when he said that,
I was like, dude, then how in the world are
you in red? But what I got out of having
a conversation with Nate Richie was a getting an appreciation
for this in state rivalry. He was talking about how
he has family on both sides of the rivalry. I
believe his dad played at BYU, And so I said,
is there a lot of talk about it, you guys
just in what he's like? Nah, dude, he's like a
lot of times we just have to avoid talking about
otherwise things and get out of hand. But it was just,
I don't know, it was cool to hear him talk about,
just from both ends of it, how you grow up
a BYU fan and then you go to the University
of Utah and that love that you had for a
university growing up completely not necessarily flips.
Speaker 5: But it just changes.
Speaker 3: And I think the rivalry is different for the players
than it is for the fans. Whereas sometimes with the
fans it feels like I hate Xyz, I hate that school.
Whereas for Nate Ritchie, it's I believe in my guys,
and I'm going to war with my guys a number
of times. Like no one has been through what we've
went through. Nobody's worked as hard as we've worked. I
will always go to war with my guys, And so
for them, not necessarily as much about oh we hate BYU.
It's just oh, we want to dominate because we believe
that we're the better team. So it was really cool
to get that unique perspective from him, even though it
is a massive bummer he doesn't get to play in
this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Ronald the three man Weavers down there
as well, and wanted to get your thoughts on it
as well. Ronnie, you were interviewing him. The sound was
a little bit disjointed, so we didn't get to hear everything.
But what did you make of that interview? What gems
were you able to obtain through that interview with Nate Ritchie.
Speaker 7: I think I was able to fix the sound so
we can try maybe to give it again.
Speaker 4: I think I got it to work.
Speaker 7: But the biggest thing is this kid should be in
blue and he's in red and right, and I think
this is one where you could have a patard of accountability.
That b why you know, maybe missed out on this one.
This is a kid that right there in the backyard. Ben,
I've been big on this. I've harped on this long time.
You can't miss how you cannot not recruit these guys.
This kid played phenomenal and it sucks that he got hurt, right.
I was loving the way he was playing. A big
fan even guys that you know transfer John Henry Daily
is you know at Utah you'd like to see the
kids ball out. You know, even though b why you
wasn't the place for him ultimately, but I think that's
the thing. And Nate just he really struck me. I
really felt the spirit when he gave this interview because
as much as football is important, you know, he had
the bigger perception of what it is he was saying
and not me right, like, this game means a lot.
But like at the end of the day, you know,
regardless of the outcome, even though the youths do want
to win, it's about being with your family, you know,
It's about being with the people around. He's got a
good support system, So sucks that he can't play in
this game. It's kind of like what Will Snowed and
you know said when we had him on the show,
and you know, back in the summer, Ben, I'm you know,
rooting for Nate Richie, even though fans might be wanted
by you to win. You want to see that kid
ball out. So I pray that he gets healthy so
he can finish out the rest of the season, because
he was playing good up until this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd love to see him get back in and
and get healthy, get strong. Did you want to try
to sound one more time to see see if it works?
Let's try to break him? Okay, let's let's tune in
as Brett Hammer and Bronald the Three Man Weaver interview
Nate Richie.
Speaker 7: There's a lineman that gone out of state that have
gone to the league, right, not just by U Tah.
But I want to take it broader than that, right
because I feel like those two schools have always put
in Guy's the NFL. Look at what Devil Lloyd's doing now,
contract year ball now right, look at what Fred Warner
doing for you like it's there, but I want to
take it further than that. But this game, in particular,
it's just something about that gives people roued. Uh from
your vantage point, what is the rivalry mint to you
growing up? And you know this game on Saturday, what
is it gonna take to get it up? Oh man,
that's a that's a big question, because I mean it's overloaded. Yeah,
I mean for me growing up, I mean I grew
up in byu Faans, so you know, I was on
the on the opposite side of it as I am now.
Speaker 8: So you know, it's just it's always been just I
feel like this kind of like turf war, like who's
like who runs the state? Like who's gonna get the recruits,
Who's gonna this, and who's gonna that. But you know,
one of the things that I really do love about
it is it brings a lot of tension to Utah,
like you're saying, because there is a lot of great
talented football players here in the state of Utah, and
you know, we have two great programs in my opinion,
and so it's I love that it puts us on
the map because you know, in the national stage you
talk about even Utah high school football players.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 8: People are like, it's just Utah. Whatever we feel, we
focus on. You know, Texas Florida, California. But I do
love that it puts it on the map. But I mean,
talking as a players haandpoint man, it means I mean,
I don't know, it means a lot for me personally,
it means a lot for others other people personally as well.
So it's just gonna be there. Very interesting to see
because there's a lot of emotion, there's a lot of
other things that are tied into this rivalry and to
see I don't know, just to We'll see how the
outcome turns out on Saturday.
Speaker 7: We'll see how people feel after that. Hey, you're not wrong,
but you're you're definitely a looking to play spoiler on Saturday,
no doubt you guys. All right, I'll ask you this,
you know, but before we transition to a little bit
of family and the end on that, what do you
see on tape from this quarterback? Cause the freshman that
you know can play. But I mean he's got BYU
six and O. I don't think you guys are overlooking
him at all. I think you guys see this kid
is he can throw the ball, but he can run
it too.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, shoot, every game that is the next
game is the most important game that we're ever gonna play,
and so we don't look past anything, you know, Props
to them, Props to him. I mean, look six and
oh great, I'm doing some great things, you know. But
there's not a little detail that we're overlooking. There's not
a little even I don't know on even how to say,
I mean, not a little speck of little dust that
we're not inspecting, you know, just to try and figure
out where we can, you know, take our advantages from,
whether it be the quarterback, whether it be I don't know,
offensive line, whatever it may be. But I mean overall,
props to him, Props to them. I mean they've done great.
I mean the record shows it, the numbers show it.
So it's just it's gonna be a great opportunity for us,
is our defense, to see what we can put together
and who can and how we can you know, help
our win, to our team to take the win this Saturday.
Speaker 3: As a guy who got to play in this rivalry
last year, I'd swear the media asks every time there's
an opportunity that they mean more. But as a guy
who's played in it, when you go and you line
up in the BYU Utah game.
Speaker 7: When you're in the moment on the.
Speaker 3: Field, does it feel different or is it really just
this is just the next game on the schedule.
Speaker 8: There's always a little bit more energy for sure, but
for the most part, just trying to For me personally,
I try and just take every game as it's my
super Bowl. Yeah, because it's my opportunity to go out
there and show what I can do, not only as
an individual, but as a teammate, and how I can
produce in this scheme and to show be you know,
to show scouts, whatever it may be, people that you know,
all them all in pretty much.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously there's a lot of extra noise that
comes along with this, you know, a lot of people
talking about it. But for me personally, it's just the
next game and I'm just ready to attack the next game.
Speaker 7: Gotta attack it. Each week an opportunity, as they would say,
go want to know percent, stand focus, no doubt, big
game on Saturday. We want to We wish you all
to build the best a lot for the team to
be at a ball out. This is one of those
those type of games. But you know, like I said
in you know the opening, look it means a lot.
But at the end of the day, you home to
the family. What does that mean to you in your life?
You know, the people surrounding you, your support system.
Speaker 8: I mean, shoot, my my family's my everything. You know,
I got I got great parents, I got great siblings.
I have a beautiful wife and you know her family
is amazingly supportive.
Speaker 5: So I mean, at the end of.
Speaker 8: The day, like all this football is great bad the
end of the day, it's just something that's so tangible
that doesn't really mean you know the world. What means
the world is you know that I'm sealed to my
wife for all eternity. You know, I've sealed to my
family for all eternity. Facts you know that I get
to be with them and then that you know, that's life.
That's the that's the really important things. But obviously the
game of football is very fun. So but yeah, that's
what it means. I mean, my family means everything to me.
They're they They're there for me when i'm up, there
there for me when I'm down, and it's it's a
support that you know, you can't find anywhere else. Faith, family, football,
or the you know, the three apps. That's what they say,
has the model right. I just want to ask you,
you know, a live from the crumble event, Uh, what
is it? You know, just meant to you to be
here to give back to see you know, Keenan poola
one of the Utah comments coming in next year, little
kids were here, you know, getting.
Speaker 7: Autographs to see the community. How important has that been
to you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: The community is everything?
Speaker 8: I mean, I think, I don't know, it's always it's
always been my goal to be able to show people,
you know, who I really am as a person. That
person I always try to emulate is my savior, Jesus Christ.
And I think there's only there's only ever place to
spread kindness and to spread love you.
Speaker 5: And that's at the end of the day when this
world needs.
Speaker 8: I mean, we see so much hardship, we see so
much disagreement, and all these things go on in the world,
but there's really no place for at the end of
the day, what really matters most is you know, being kind,
showing who who really matters the most, and that's our savor,
Jesus Christ. And at the end of the day, you know,
I love sharing that to the community, no matter what
community is. The Uyu community, the Utah community, whoever we play.
That's why I really try to emulate.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you sharing those words, naming this and message
that I'll read sweet as they say, the kids sail
next these days, right, I'm all echo it. It needs
to be more love the peacemaker mens out there. You
talked about there's so many, you know, little things that
don't matter, and there's so many bigger things and love
that You've been a great example. You represent not only
the state of Utah, but the program in Utah graat
itself and everything. As you're done balling out on the field,
and we want to wish you and the team go
luck this Saturday. I appreciate it. Thank you guys. Of
course we'll go to break God.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 2: That's Nick Ritchie, Ronald the three Man Weaver, and Brett Hamber.
We're interview him yesterday when we were at Crumble. Great interview.
Nate's a stand up individual and like you're just listening
him like this is a big loss for Utah. I'm
telling you, not only is he a good football player,
but he is the smartest guy on that defense. I
have it on good authority, very well familiar with with
his role up at the U. Morgan scally leans heavily
on Nate Ritchie and has leaned heavily on Nate Ritchie
to put certain players in the right position to make plays.
He is an orchestrator. He is a quarterback of that defense.
Typically you see it at the mike linebacker position and
at the free safety spot. And I don't know if
they they rely more on the free safety in this defense,
but it sure sounds like it from my sources. And
so this was a big loss and we wish him well,
want to get him back, and I think he it's
not season ending.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: He gave us a you details on the injury there
at our Crumble remote and we're hoping he gets back soon.
But this is a big loss for the University of Utah.
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you kidding me? At your home stadium? Now's the time,
now's the place. Hopefully, those that are heading down to
Lavelle Edwards Stadium tomorrow evening, they need to rise and shout.
Speaker 5: They need to be.
Speaker 2: Louder than they've ever been before, disruptive, then more disruptive
than they've ever been before. Tell those West stands, all
the blue hairs, okay, they need to rise and shout.
They need to also be engaged. Don't just let them
have their headphones in to listen to Greg Rebell. They
can stand up and listen to Greg Rubell. Okay, you
got to show up, show out at levell It is
a sold out crowd. By the way, Greg Rubell always
staying on top of it as it pertains to the metrics.
He tweeted out for the fourth time in four home games.
Levelle Edwards Stadium is sold out BYU IS averaging sixty
four thousand, three hundred and sixty eight fans through three
home tilts, where that ranks among FBS programs twenty six
in average attendance. That's first in the Big twelve tenth
in percentage of stadium capacity at one hundred and three
point seven percent. So the standing roum only is also
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