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Speaker 1: And hello, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast.

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Happy Thursday. Today's the tenth day of July two thousand

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and two, year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. My

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name is Tom Sullivan. So what do we have today,

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boys and girls. Well, we've got some updates on the

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flood floods, I should say, some questions about climate change

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being given some sort of blame. We've got ice under

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attack by agitators, activists and so forth, I mean, like

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seriously under attack. Start with the White House doctor doctor

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Kevin O'Connor. And this is interesting on a number of

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different fronts because doctor O'Connor has two issues that he's facing.

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One of them is he's a doctor and patients, You

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and I, our doctors can't talk publicly, can't talk to

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anybody about our health, hippo laws, what the doctor treated

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us for, what's wrong with us, what medicines we take,

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whatever it might be. So doctor O'Connor gets called in

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before the House Oversight Committee and is asked about this,

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and not only does he not want to talk about

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his patient, President Joe Biden, but he also which is

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the curious part, is that he took the Fifth Amendment

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over and over and over. Here's doctor O'Connor.

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Speaker 2: I must respectfully decline to answer based on the physician

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patient village and reliance. Am I right under the Fifth

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Amendment of the Constitution. Am I right under the Fifth

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Amendment of the Constitution? Am I right under the Fifth

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Amendment of the Constitution. So am I right under the

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fifth Amendment at the Constitution.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you heard what played? Is the answers back

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to back. He every question that was asked was he

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refused to answer under his Fifth Amendment privilege. So this

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gets into the I get the doctor patient thing. I

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don't know why he was. Is he worried about committing

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a crime? Jonathan Turley, the law professor, he chimes in

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on both of those issues.

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to keep on repeating that line because

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you can't get into any answers without undermining your invocation.

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The question is really what Congress will do about it.

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They can actually force his testimony by giving him a

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grant of immunity. Now, the key about it the patient

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privilege is that that is often negated in a case

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of what's called the crime fraud exception. In fact, even

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laws like HIPPA have exceptions for subpoenas and criminal investigations.

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What the Oversight Committee is saying is we're looking into

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possible crimes here. These are very serious allegations that even

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legislation was signed without the knowledge and consent of the president.

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That can be a crime. There's also questions whether perjury

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might have been committed. So Congress is in a good

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position here, but it's likely that O'Connor and maybe even

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President Biden could go to court to try to prevent

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even his being compelled to testify. I expect that Congress

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would likely do it as well. They're not trying to

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bag O'Connor, they're trying to get at the truth here.

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To keep in mind, the twenty fifth Amendment was designed

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to deal with the president who's no longer capable of

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carrying out the duties of his office. But it's a

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bit of a paper tiger. It doesn't work unless you've

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got cooperation of figures like the Vice president and others.

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The only other protection we have is Congressional oversight, is

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the ability of Congress to look into these matters. This

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is long overdue. You know, we had President Wilson who

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was effectively out of office when his wife and others

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were carrying out his functions and he was basically incapable

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of making any decisions. We really haven't improved much since then.

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I mean, the Democrats have their own problems.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The Republicans are citing Representative Goldman who said previously that

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invoking the fifth Amendments only done when you did something wrong,

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and they're quoting that all over the place. But the

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Democrats can have a hard time convincing the public to

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listen to them and not their lying eyes that we

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all saw that debate. That was not someone who was

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even aware of some of his answers, and so we

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this is I don't think this is going to work

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for them, and this idea that somehow they can sort

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of talk this one away is really not going to work.

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There's serious questions here. It's unlikely criminal charges are going

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to come out of this just because of the nature

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of this process. It's possible, but what we do need

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our answers. The problem under the twenty fifth Amendment in

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our current system is that most there's always people invested

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in keeping a president, even a president who looks like

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you know, Weekend with Bernie. It's in their advantage to

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keep him in office and oversights the only way for

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us to penetrate that protective cocoon.

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Speaker 1: So fascinating from a couple different points. First of all,

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the old thing about you certainly have the right to

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say that I can't. I won't say anything under my

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rights on to the Fifth Amendment. That's because you take

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that when you don't want to be incriminating yourself in

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a crime. So why would the doctor keep taking the

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Fifth Amendment? Did he get involved in some sort of

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But more importantly, like Turley said, the chances of criminal

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charges coming out of this are slim to none. But

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the real issue is the twenty fifth Amendment. It doesn't

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work because, as Turley said, there's always a group of

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people that have a stake in keeping their side of

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the aisle in power at the White House. They don't

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want to get rid of their own guy or gal.

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So the twenty fifth Amendment doesn't work. But it was

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also interesting that Turley said Congress can under the crime

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fraud rules overrule and find out what was going on,

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regardless of HIPPA and regardless of the Fifth Amendment. So

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if there's a crime fraud rule applied or not. But

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I think the point out of all of this with

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doctor O'Connor, and he's got himself in a very sticky

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position here. The real question is the twenty fifth Amendment

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does not work. So I would be all for it,

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deleting it, getting rid of it, and rewriting something so

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that when we do have a president that is physically

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or mentally unable to do the job, that there is

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a better system for going in and replacing that. Now,

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as totally said, there's always going to be If it's

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a Democrat president, the Democrats are going to screen bloody murder.

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If it's a Republican, Republicans will do the same thing.

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I don't know what the answer is, but I'm sure

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a nice blue ribbon commission of pointy hids could figure

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out something better than the twenty fifth Amendment. So we've

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got that, and we have Texas and New Mexico with

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the flooding. The latest update now one hundred twenty dead,

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one hundred and sixty missing. I think the missing are

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probably under You've seen the videos of the river and

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the trees and the silt and the sand and the

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dirt and everything. I imagine a lot of them are

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buried underneath all of that, but it brings up the

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usual suspect about FEMA, and it brings up the usual

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suspect about climate change. Let's start with THEMA, because if

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you've listened to my radio show, you knew I have

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never been a fan of FEMA. They are not first responders,

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and their former administrator, Dian Criswell that it was quick

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to say that. I mean, it's no surprise, but people

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think they're first responders. Well they're not. And people are

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criticizing FEMA for taking seventy two hours to show up

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in Texas. It was a holiday weekend, on and on

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and on. It wasn't something anybody saw coming. I saw

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one reporters say, well, why didn't they the Preposeosi. No,

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that's what they do for hurricanes when you have the

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Weather Service saying here comes a hurricane. Nobody saw this

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one coming. And we've gone over the whole. Everybody's trying

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to blame somebody, but FEMA, I'm not sure what is

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for it. Generally, it comes in after all of a

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sudden done. The first ones there are Walmart and their trucks,

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and Home Depot with their trucks, and that's sort of

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that sort of charitable work that comes from major corporations

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come in, bring in food and supplies to help the

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people that are in trouble. So it took a while

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to get there. But that's not the gripe Christinome, who

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if you've also listened to my show, you know I'm

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not a big fan of Christinome, but she's right. She

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says this needs to be shut down and put back

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together different then it has been run in the past.

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And what they've done in the past is nothing to

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write home about. Here's Christino.

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Speaker 5: Federal Emergency Management should be stayed and locally led rather

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than how it has operated for decades. It has been

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slow to respond at the federal level. It's even been

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slower to get the resources to Americans in crisis, and

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that is why this entire agency needs to be eliminated

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as it exists today and remade into a responsive agency.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's a government agency, so you're not

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expecting a lot from them. They're bureaucratic in slow and

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again they usually come into a community. If you think

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they're going to rebuild your house, you know, think again.

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What they usually do is bring in money for the

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local government. If city hall was damaged, They'll repair City

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the police cars. They write checks for or mostly public

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government agencies. Do they help out. I've had people call

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and say that they've got some help. But if you

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think they're going to rebuild your house, now, that's not

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what FEMA does. So I don't have the answer. Like

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I said, they need a Blue Ribbon commission to point

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he heads, to sit down and say what is what

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is the answer for the twenty fifth Amendment and also

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for how are we going to get a government agency

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that is not bureaucratic that can respond to national emergencies.

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I'm not sure if that's possible, but I do applaud

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their efforts to reinvent FEMA in many many ways, which

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also brings up the people that are now pointing and

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saying see, see see I tell you it's that climate change,

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climate change and thinking about it, and the people that

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are pro climate change have done a horrible job of

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trying to sell it to the public. Harry Enton has

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some of the numbers on this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, are Americans afraid of climate change? And the answer

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is Americans aren't afraid of climate change. Climate activists have

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not successfully made the case to the American people. I

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want you to take a look here. Greatly worried about

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climate change? We have data going all the way back

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since nineteen hundred and eighty nine. Look at that. It

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was thirty five percent, two thousand forty percent, twenty twenty

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forty six percent, and twenty twenty five forty percent, which

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is the exact same percentage as back in two thousand.

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Despite all of these horrible weather events, the percentage of

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Americans who are greatly worried about climate change has stayed

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pretty gosh darn consistent, which kind of boggles the mind

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a little bit. Granted, everything that we see on our

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television screens, our computer screens, the hurricanes, tornadoes, the flooding,

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but yet greatly worried about climate change forty percent twenty

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twenty five, the exact same percentage is back in two thousand.

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Why it's because people are not worried that it's necessarily

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gonn effect them. That's what's going on here. You'll be

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a natural disaster victim often or sometimes worried. Look at this.

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Look at where we are now in twenty twenty five

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it's thirty two percent, thirty eight percent to thirty percent.

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The number has actually gone down. The number's gone down

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in terms of the percentage of Americans who where they'll

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be a natural disaster victim, such as a hurricane or

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a tornado. Okay, so right now we're looking at the present, right,

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what about going into the future.

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Speaker 6: That's all this talk.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe Miami might be underwater at some point, right,

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but yet when it comes to climate change effect on

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my home area, will be harder to stay. Look at

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this all adults, it's just seventeen percent. It's just seventeen percent.

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The GOP is six percent, Independence is six percent. Even

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Democrats here, it's just twenty seven percent of Democrats who

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say that climate change will make it harder to stay

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in our area. And I think this is what's so important.

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This is across the aisle in terms of the percentage

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who say all's hard to stay in their area. And

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that is the exact same thing that we see here.

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When you'll be a natural disaster victim, under fifty percent

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of Democrats, Republicans, and independents believe that in fact they

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could be or at least worry about the chance that

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they be a natural disaster victim.

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Speaker 6: Any right.

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Speaker 4: They may worry about in the abstract, but when it

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comes to their own lives, they don't worry.

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Speaker 1: So so much. For climate change worriers, they're not. Most

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people are not worried about it. I found an interesting

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Republicans only six percent thought it would affect them, Independent

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sixteen percent, Democrats twenty seven percent. Democrats, you're worrying very little,

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but you're worrying much more than Republicans and Independents. So

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it's but he wants to blame climate change, and there's

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a lot there has been a lot of money that's

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been thrown at it. It's a great business to get into,

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I guess, because you can make a lot of money

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in it. But people, even with these terrible stories about

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the floods in Texas and New Mexico and South Carolina,

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that people are just going probably won't happen to me

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though they don't worry about it, and it hasn't. This

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has been pretty consistent on when we come around to

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election time too, about what's the most important thing affecting America.

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Climate change is usually at the bottom. We're going to

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talk about ice and the attacks on ICE. This is

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not this is not just some passing story. We have Antifa,

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we've got anarchists, we've got professional protesters that are out

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there and getting communities riled up to the point where

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they're running around finding out where ICE is and going

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after them. I remind you again, ICE is a law

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enforcement agency. It's a police department. Their job is to

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go on immigration and customs and enforce those laws. And

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yet people are turning against them. And there was a

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bunch of Democrats on one of the cable channels last

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night talking about the fact that these people are kidnapping

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citizens and putting them in concentration camps. Now they're not

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kidnapping them, they're arresting them. That's what's called. And if

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there were upwards of twenty million people that came into

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this country just in the prior four years, let alone

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the prior decades, there's a lot of illegals in our country.

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And if it does go this whole thing about well,

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I want you to get the criminals, and they said

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they would get the criminals first, But what is turning

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out to be is that if they've got the bead

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on some criminal that is here, illegally, and they go

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into a home or an apartment or a business and

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they find that person. They also asked the other people

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to produce ID and they're finding out that they're hanging

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out with other people that may not be criminals, but

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they're in the country illegally, which is a crime in

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and of itself. But the people on the cable channel

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last night, we're talking about they're kidnapping citizens. No, they're

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not kidnapping citizens, and they're putting them in concentration camps.

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They're borrowing words from the Nazis in World War Two.

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They're not concentration camps. They're detention centers, and they process

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them and then move them out of the country. And

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the courts was it yesterday or the day before, I'm

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losing track of time. The Supreme Court came out and said, yes,

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the executive branch, the president can in fact do a

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couple things. One is send these people out of the country.

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And secondly, you can also cut back on the employees

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that work for the federal government. So President Trump, by

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the time these things go through the court system, is

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getting more and more wins. But this is this is

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something that when they go back and they ask people

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that voted for Donald Trump the number of people who

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voted for him in twenty twenty four, and they said,

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what was the reason. What was the number one reason

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you voted for Donald Trump? Eighty eight percent chose as

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number one immigration. And that also brings up the whole

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point about the number of people that are asked a

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huge percentage. It's in the fifties to sixty percent range. Says,

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I'm not worry about whether they're criminals or not. All illegals.

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Every person that's illegally in our country should be deported.

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So I understand that there are illegals that have been

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in this country for some time and they're trying to

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get a better life, but they know they've got to

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be looking over their shoulder the whole time. They really

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can't go out and get a good job because they

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don't have the documents. I know they try, and some

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employers take advantage of that, but generally, if you're in

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a country and you're not legally supposed to be there,

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wouldn't you be looking over your shoulder. So there's all

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these stories about these people are afraid to go out

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of their homes. I would be too. If you know

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that the cops are looking for you. And that's what

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I say, is they're cops. If you know they're looking

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for you, of course you're going to be careful about

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when you wander outside of your home. John Fetterman, he

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chimed in on this, again refuting a lot of the

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Democrats speech. John Fetterman is supportive of the deportation.

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Speaker 7: ICE agents are just doing their job and I fully

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support that. And for me and people in my party,

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might you know, want to abolish it or you know,

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treat them as criminals or anything that's that's inappropriate and outrageous.

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ICE performs an important an important job for our nation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. And the problem with all this is

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there are people that are now armed and shooting at

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ICE agents. This is way beyond just some protesters out

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in the street. So Hakim Jeffries, the leader of the

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Democrat Party in the House of Representatives, was asked about this,

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and well, let's put it this way. He really didn't

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call out the rioters. See this is his muttering.

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Speaker 6: What we are in a more is more environment in

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terms of the unprecedented assault on the American way of

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life and our country that has been launched by Donald

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Trump and compliant House Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not exactly calling out the people that are

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violently attacking the ice officers. No, he's not calling out

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the rioters at all. And the Democrats people are watching

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and they're listening, and they're thinking, so, you're on the

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side of the illegals. You're on the side of the people.

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The MS thirteen all the way down to people that

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are in our country illegally, in a heavy majority of

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people in poll after poll after poll say they want

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all illegals to port it. And the Democrats are coming

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out and going, yeah, we're not really for that. And oh,

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by the way, the attack on our way of life,

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how about the attack with guns on ice agents, ace,

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ice police anything. They're hakey, not a word. Mary Catherine

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Ham has an observation about all of this.

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Speaker 8: Now here's the thing. Democrats never miss an opportunity to

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miss the point. In an environment where fifty and sixty

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plus percent of Americans say yes, we should deport all

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illegal aliens. That's not criminal immigrants, this is just all

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of them in repeated polls. And we have an environment

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where there's ten people arrested in Texas, there's a shooting

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on an officer. There are plots for mass murder going

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on here, And they say, you know what the problem

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is the masks. The masks on law enforcement. Law enforcement

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is not perfect, and they should be held accountable. But

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this idea that we're going to play along with Democrats

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in their little game of Calvin ball when they decide

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when masks are virtuous and when they're bad, is ridiculous.

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They're not speaking to the needs or the desires of

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voters at all. And the only people they do listen

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to are the folks quoted in that Axio piece who

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are their far left activists. Also that piece noted that

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they are often white, suburban and affluent. Big surprise that say,

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you know, revolution, you guys have to get shot for

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the movement. This is wild stuff. And Rocana, I'll give

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him a shout out. Democrat Rocana in that article said,

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I think maybe we should hwe some more messaging about,

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you know, fealty to the constitution and staying within the

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norms and such. But they have spent the entire Trump

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era rationalizing whatever they want to do, tons of bad behavior,

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corruption inside government, violence outside of it. By saying Trump

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is special extraordinary threat. Right, They are continuing to do that,

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and it is very bad for luring, very bad for

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wooing vote, and it's very bad for the countries.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, I think support is going to go

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up for law enforcement, and law enforcement is simply trying

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to do its job. I was so disappointed to see

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in La Okay, so LA says and on many blue

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cities say we will not cooperate with you. You know,

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it would be a really easy way to not have

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ice come into your city is to cooperate with detainers

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and hand over criminal aliens who are in your system.

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They refuse to do that. So these officers come into

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La to do the job that they are tasked with

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doing that has inherent risk, and what do they get,

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no force protection. They get attacked by the folks on

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the street. They try their best to defend themselves and

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conducted themselves extremely well, and Democrats are like, yeah, masks,

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let's get the masks off of them. I mean, it's

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just so missing the point. And this would all be

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easier if blue cities would say, yes, let us help

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you in a civilized manner to enforce the law.

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Speaker 6: That is very clearly that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So it is interesting the fact that they could have

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cooperation with the LAPD and when they're ready to release

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somebody from a jail, they have a detainer they call ICE.

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ICE comes over to the jail, picks them up and

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in custody and out they go. They don't have to

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go chase them down in the street or a park somewhere.

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I think it's worrying some people is that you see

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the ICE agents and they're in civilian clothes with a

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vest on and on the back of the vest it

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says police or it says ICE, and they're in civilian

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cards and they've got the masks on. Because what's going

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on is in fact, I'll play this clip for you.

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Todd what's his name, todd Lyons, he's the acting ICE director,

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talks about the fact that the Antifa and those people

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are taking photos of the ICE officers and figuring out

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who they are, where they live, and then threatening them

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in their personal lives. Here's todd Lyons.

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Speaker 9: You can see from all the video too, right they

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say the ICE agents they don't they're not properly marked.

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You see them in their tactical gear, in their vest

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where you know, you see blaming ce FBI, atf ICE,

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HSI ero, whoever's out with us. So the Mayor's claim

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that just totally falls. And what she's doing is making

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people afraid of us. If you know, La wasn't a

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sanctuary city, we wouldn't have to go on the streets.

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If they turned these criminals over to us in a

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secure setting, we would not be out there. So what

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the mayorage doing is she's stoking the flames of this

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and she's the one that's making it worse.

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Speaker 6: Than what it really is.

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Speaker 9: Like, like we have talked before, if you looked at

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the beginning of this administration, who looked even in December

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November last year, we weren't wearing masks. ICE agents weren't

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wearing masks because they weren't afraid of their information being docks,

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their photos taken, addresses posted. But as you've seen the

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steady increase of when we started doing our law enforcement mission,

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that's when you saw, you know, these left wing activists,

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these groups start posting the names, faces of ICE agents, officers,

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and their families. So while I'm not a fan of

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the masks, I think we could do a better, but

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we need to protect our agents and officers, and I

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fully support them in that. I say it's in need

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because they need to protect their families, they need to

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go home safe at night. And if you just look

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at the ambush in Texas, just Rea, that's a pure

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sign right there that this rhetoric is really stepping up

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the violence and it's getting worse.

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Speaker 1: Here is a Congresswoman PayPal from Seattle and the Mayor

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of Chicago, Brandon Johnson Wane.

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Speaker 8: In all this, some of the most inspiring things have

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been when people encircle courtrooms and refuse to allow ICE.

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Speaker 1: Agents in our local police department will not ever cooperate

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with ICE. So that was Congresswoman PayPal from Seattle and

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the Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson. Brandon Johnson went on

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to say, it doesn't matter what constitutional authority they have,

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we will not obey them, or put up with them,

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or allow them to do anything in the city of Chicago.

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So we got all this baloney thrown at is about

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Donald Trump is going to be a threat to democracy,

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and Joe Biden was going out there about he was

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going to save democracy, and yet the mayor of Chicago

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is saying that doesn't matter about their constitutional authority. We

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are going to disobey that we don't care about the

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constitutional authority. Isn't that really the essence of anti democracy.

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Speaker 9: It's so frustrating because all we're actually doing is our

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law enforced emission that we've constitutionally sworn to do. And

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when you look at a lot of the instances that

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we've done recently, you hear a lot of elected fishal say,

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if ICE has a criminal warrant, if ICE has a

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warrant signed by a judge, or a search warrant, Well,

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now we do, and we're out there doing a law

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enforced oubmission, and they still don't like what they're doing,

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what we're doing. And the more they say this, these

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crazy rhetorics that they won't work with us, or they're

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happy when they circle a court room or they stop

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an ICE arrest, all they're doing is putting the public

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at risk, and they're putting ICE offices and agents at risk.

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It's their rhetoric, and what they're saying is what's making

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the situation worse and what's really putting my men and

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women every day in harm's way. Because like you showed

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that graph, the increase is alarming and it's danger. You

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have ice agents being hit, you know, being struck by vehicles, well,

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being shot at. Never in my whole credit, I think

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that would happen for doing your law enforcement mission.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk money, wrap up the podcast for today.

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First of all, it's Thursday. So the Thursday morning jobs

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numbers came out two hundred and twenty seven thousand first

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time jobless claims versus an estimate of two hundred and

480
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thirty five thousand, so pretty much as expected. The continuing

481
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claims up ten thousand, up to a million, nine hundred

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and seventy thousand. That's also been gradually creeping up, but

483
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not a lot. It looks like the job market is

484
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still steady, it's still strong, and the first time jobs

485
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claims seemed to be pretty much in the same territory

486
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as far as the tariffs go. Just as we were

487
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leaving the program yesterday, we got word that the President

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was going to put a forty percent terriff on copper.

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It turned out where later in the evening last night

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they changed that to fifty percent. Fifty percent tariff on copper,

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and copper is in a lot of things that you

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and I own, So we'll see how that plays out.

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And Brazil president said he's putting a tariff on everything

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coming from Brazil, and the reason for that is because

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of he's unhappy with Bolsnaro's elect with the courts in

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Brazil going after Bolsonaro, and so as a result, he

497
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put a tariff on I think it was two hundred

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percent on everything coming from Brazil. The weird part about

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that is this is totally a political tool to him.

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This is not an economic tool because we have a

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trade surplus with Brazil. So this, I'm sorry, doesn't make

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any sense to me. But tariffs, you know, I don't

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like them. Wall Street they were fine with everything today.

504
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The DAFT shows industrials up one hundred and ninety two

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to forty four thousand and six point fifty, SMP up

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seventeen nasdak up nineteen, gold up twelve dollars to thirty

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three thirty three, and the price of oil fell a

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buck and a half. It's down to sixty six dollars

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and some change for one barrel of oil. Thank you

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for coming by today, have yourself a wonderful rest of

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your day, and will see you tomorrow.

