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<v Speaker 1>You see, some things are going to happen. What's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>A Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a bunch of us here and We've got

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<v Speaker 3>a very special guest, another person I had met at

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<v Speaker 3>the Cosmic Summit and I'm very happy I have to

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<v Speaker 3>finally get him on. But before we introduce the guests,

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<v Speaker 3>we will have the other rejects introduce themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And first we got Brooke. What is going on? Brooke?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. Hello, fellow rejects.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really excited to be here and talk about this topic.

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<v Speaker 5>You can find me on Instagram at Dark Florida Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, thank you very much. Go check out her YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got some new uh like on the ground, boots

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground, actual stuff, so go check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Broke. And we got my manage

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ninja. What is going on? Are?

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<v Speaker 6>What is up?

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal?

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm jin The Ninja hosts a show called Threshold Saints.

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<v Speaker 7>It's serial experiments and speculative ontology. Nick just pulled me

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<v Speaker 7>from another live that I co host with a group

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<v Speaker 7>of other magicians which is called The Gray Lodge, which

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<v Speaker 7>we host a pirate radio show on Twitter. So tonight's

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<v Speaker 7>theme was ruin culture, so it's speculative cultural ecologies. So

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<v Speaker 7>if you're interested in kind of like ideas in metamagic,

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<v Speaker 7>metafiction and metapolitics, those could be a cool space for you.

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<v Speaker 7>You can check me out on ig at Threshold Saints.

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<v Speaker 7>You can check me out on Twitter at Wukongrie Bourne,

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<v Speaker 7>w Wu Kong Reborn and the show account at Threshold Saints.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Nick, and thanks for the how as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, no thank you. Definitely go check out his spaces.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, I mean, I've been in there a

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<v Speaker 3>few times and they do definitely get into some deep

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<v Speaker 3>shit and it's really good, honestly, so go check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we got my man Tim Constantine. What is

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<v Speaker 3>going on, sir? So glad that you can make it today?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey me too happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 8>Good to see all the other rejects, Dave looking forward

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<v Speaker 8>to this. I've got a Sunday show called Conspiracy Garden

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<v Speaker 8>over on Cult Conspiracy and my main show is where

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<v Speaker 8>you could probably find me the best is sixth Censory Podcasts, Spotify, Apple, Instagram, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 8>all that stuff. So always happy to be here, Nick.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, definitely go check out Tim and Julia's work

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<v Speaker 3>on the culture conspiracy. You got two rejects over there

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<v Speaker 3>putting out their own stuff. Go check it out. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you very much, Tim, And we.

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<v Speaker 2>Got my man Tyrone. What is up, sir? How are

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<v Speaker 2>you today? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey? What's up?

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<v Speaker 9>Dave?

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<v Speaker 10>Welcome man, Glad to see you. Man, been in about

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<v Speaker 10>two three weeks before. We have some good discussions. Man,

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<v Speaker 10>good to see you. Everything that you want to read

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<v Speaker 10>about me or know about me, it's on my website,

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<v Speaker 10>Rebirth of theWord dot com. You can also buy my

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<v Speaker 10>book Journey through the Origins of History through Amazon, which

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<v Speaker 10>became bestseller. So thank you, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you, I appreciate you. And last but not least,

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<v Speaker 3>we got the man himself, Ethan Indigo.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>So peace?

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<v Speaker 9>Honored to be here, Thank you so much, Nick, and

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<v Speaker 9>everybody salute. Honored to communicate with you, guys, Dave. I

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<v Speaker 9>know this is going to be dope. Excellent topic of interest,

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<v Speaker 9>what a great study, and very timely. Ethan Indigo Smith.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm on all the usual social media and I have

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<v Speaker 9>a few books on Amazon as well, and trying to

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<v Speaker 9>write articles regularly, so this is gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, thank you, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to plug any like specific books on

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<v Speaker 3>anything and tell people where they can go find?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, you know what, The Fourth Initiation is my most

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<v Speaker 9>recent book. I highly recommend it. I just even found

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<v Speaker 9>a I was I was talking about the Ruffians in

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<v Speaker 9>relation to the Jaquin and Boaz pillars and the three

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<v Speaker 9>Ruffians and yeah, that's all in there and now and

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<v Speaker 9>some highly interesting stuff. And I've been reading Tyrone's book

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<v Speaker 9>as well, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nice, nice, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally to the man himself, we got Dave from

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<v Speaker 3>Mike and Dave's Multiverse. Dave, please let everybody know what

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<v Speaker 3>your deal is. What's where they can find all of

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<v Speaker 3>your stuff and whatever you like to blow?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, we got a channel, Mike and Dave's Multiverse. I'm

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<v Speaker 11>the Dave of Mike and Dave's. We do a live

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<v Speaker 11>stream on Thursdays around seven. We usually have guests. We

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<v Speaker 11>talk about shit Mike and I like, which is like science, lost,

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<v Speaker 11>ancient history, that kind of thing. We drop interviews every Friday.

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<v Speaker 11>Sometimes we drop interviews on Monday. The interviews are just

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<v Speaker 11>with people we think are interesting, typically in the space

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<v Speaker 11>of lost ancient history and that kind of thing. But

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<v Speaker 11>I'll talk to anyone I think that has an interesting story.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm a people person, and so I'm also a veteran.

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<v Speaker 11>So I've talked to a bunch of veterans with stories.

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<v Speaker 11>And Tyrone's been on my show like five different times. Ricardo,

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<v Speaker 11>who's a Who's longtime friend and guest of this show,

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<v Speaker 11>has been on my show a bunch of times. And

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<v Speaker 11>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having a lot of fun with it.

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<v Speaker 11>We just started building it last year and I literally

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<v Speaker 11>just went to Cosmic Summit last year and I was

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<v Speaker 11>like the year before this year last year, and I

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<v Speaker 11>was like, I met Mike there, and then I sent

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<v Speaker 11>him a text a few months later said you want

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<v Speaker 11>to start a shitty podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, let's go.

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<v Speaker 11>So here I am I normally so just FYI. The

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<v Speaker 11>topic is three I at lists, the new interstellar object.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in no way qualified to talk about this. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm an amateur astronomer. I have a telescope myself. I

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<v Speaker 11>got into astronomy when I was living in California. You

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<v Speaker 11>see the stars out there in the desert like nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 11>It's ridiculous. And that's why I literally went out to

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<v Speaker 11>And I have that telescope upstairs and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 11>use it to look at this object in September. So

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<v Speaker 11>that's the object that we are going to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 11>And when I found out about it, I just, I

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<v Speaker 11>don't know. I became obsessed over like the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 11>and I've been like reading about it and grocking about

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<v Speaker 11>it and reading articles and making a PowerPoint and then

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<v Speaker 11>Nick sends me a message like a couple days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you want to come on the show do your thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, fuck it, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 11>So I'm used to being the host, but now I'm

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<v Speaker 11>going to be doing a presentation for you guys on

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<v Speaker 11>three I at lists. I just wanted to ask though

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<v Speaker 11>the chat and you guys like, what what do you

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<v Speaker 11>what have you guys heard?

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<v Speaker 3>Just you know, until I had seen something on it,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't look into it. I saw it like scrolling and

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Until you told me about covering it, so.

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<v Speaker 9>Now anyone else I was interested in it since the

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<v Speaker 9>Omahoma forget my lack of pronouncing that care.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's close, You're close.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I was going to say that, but yeah, since

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<v Speaker 9>that came through, and some of the speculation on that

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<v Speaker 9>by the same gentleman, primarily I believe, Yeah, correct, I

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<v Speaker 9>love so Yeah, I'm fascinating.

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<v Speaker 11>We'll be talking about him and his speculation tonight, Brook,

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<v Speaker 11>to have you heard about this?

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to ask, does it have any correlation

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<v Speaker 5>to the Black Knight satellite? Is it the same thing?

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<v Speaker 11>No, not at all, But I should do one on

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<v Speaker 11>that that That thing's pretty badass, so maybe I'll do

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<v Speaker 11>another one.

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<v Speaker 1>On that one. Yeah. Well, I look forward to.

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<v Speaker 5>Learning about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool awesome. Tim Brook stole my question.

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<v Speaker 8>That's exactly what I was going to say, because I'm

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<v Speaker 8>familiar with that I had. I talked to Cliff Dunning

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<v Speaker 8>about the Black Knight satellite as well. I think at

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<v Speaker 8>one point he was working on a book about it,

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<v Speaker 8>so that's what came to mind for me. But no,

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<v Speaker 8>this is new to me, so I'm I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 8>hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, Three, I Atlas is a interstellar object, the third

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<v Speaker 11>of its tyrone and Ethan mentioned a mua mua.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is Hawaiian.

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<v Speaker 11>in a bit or what it's what it means in Hawaiian.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the actually the third of its kind.

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<v Speaker 11>We've only discovered three of these things since Muhamud was

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<v Speaker 11>discovered at twenty seventeen. There was one discovered called Borisov

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<v Speaker 11>by a dude named Borisov, and so an amateur. Borsov

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<v Speaker 11>was an amateur astronomer as well. So this is the

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<v Speaker 11>third one. We're going to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>This one, we're going.

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<v Speaker 11>To cover, uh, the other two. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 11>some comparisons. We're going to speculate because I love speculating.

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<v Speaker 11>We're going to check out the actual science behind what

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<v Speaker 11>about the other stuff, and what we can find out

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<v Speaker 11>what we can look forward to in the future about

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<v Speaker 11>this object.

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<v Speaker 1>So when he comments questions concerns before I pull up

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<v Speaker 1>my slides, oh at all. All right, So I've.

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<v Speaker 11>Never done this on this platform before, So let's give

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Oh, one thing, I mean, I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>already kind of answered it somewhat, but like, what was

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<v Speaker 3>it that like really got you going on looking into it.

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<v Speaker 1>On this one? Yeah, yeah, good question. It's the a Muhamua,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the fact.

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<v Speaker 11>That there is uh it's an interstellar object, only the

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<v Speaker 11>third of its kind, so it's extremely rare, extremely and

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<v Speaker 11>so it's one of those things that we very rarely

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<v Speaker 11>get a chance to look at or study, and it excites,

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<v Speaker 11>it ignites like wild speculation. So people been speculating like

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<v Speaker 11>nobody's business about this thing, and we're going to get

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<v Speaker 11>into a little bit about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's kind of what got me into it.

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<v Speaker 11>And I got a new computer so I was been

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<v Speaker 11>fucking around with that all week. So so can you

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<v Speaker 11>guys see the slides show?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, perfect, awesome.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, can you see mothership or big ass space rock.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to compare a Muamua, Borisov, and Atlas.

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<v Speaker 11>And I guess the best place to start this for

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<v Speaker 11>me personally is you got to go back all the

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<v Speaker 11>way to nineteen ninety three. I was eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually what got me into aliens and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire in the Sky has Robert Patrick, who.

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<v Speaker 11>So pretty badass.

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<v Speaker 1>Great movie started this whole thing for me.

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<v Speaker 11>but I just don't believe everything I see her here.

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<v Speaker 11>I like to I like to dig into this ship.

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<v Speaker 11>So let's take a look at the first link. It's

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<v Speaker 11>a short time lapse of what this thing that we've found.

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<v Speaker 1>The three I at list looks like. All right, so

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and show that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick, Sure, all right, pull this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have to reshare a screen every time you

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I'll just pull yours down and yours will

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<v Speaker 3>stay like in the background, and then I'll wine up.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it? Here we goes here, don't don't touch nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're good, yep. Okay, So I guess I started this

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, started from the beginning. Ships short, you can enlarge it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is it. This is three I at Lias. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we got.

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<v Speaker 11>And this is what is ignited wild speculation across the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that is three I Atlas. Now, so we're.

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<v Speaker 11>Gonna rip on my boy here. Joe Rogan love his

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<v Speaker 11>channel watched probably a million hours of it. But and

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<v Speaker 11>I do this ship all the time. Okay, what Joe's

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<v Speaker 11>about to do here? Okay, but this is just what

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<v Speaker 11>I mean. We went from this to what Joe says

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<v Speaker 1>So let's check out the second link that I sent Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>If it does, at least we had fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, I'm gonna put this sound up too,

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<v Speaker 3>And do you know where it is around or is

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<v Speaker 3>it just right.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Yeah, right right, you're right off the bat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>He's a professor at Harvard the general experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you hear about that fucking object that's hurtling totals

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<v Speaker 12>birth at like one hundred and thirty thousand miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that might solve all our problems.

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<v Speaker 12>Some intergalactic object that's hurt This is this guy, Avi Lobe.

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<v Speaker 12>He's a professor at Harvard that believes it might be

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. And he was talking.

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<v Speaker 12>About the odds of this thing being in the trajectory

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<v Speaker 12>at the place where it's doing it, it's when the

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<v Speaker 12>coming from behind the Sun, and it's so it makes

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<v Speaker 12>it difficult to detect. And that this object is in

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<v Speaker 12>a direct line to come to Earth in twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you can of it and give me back my slides.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, hey, why you're doing it? I uh av Low.

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<v Speaker 10>His book is actually interesting about the extraterrestrial version of

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<v Speaker 1>The Amamua yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it is interesting, and uh, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>With a VI that will get to but I like

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<v Speaker 1>speculation like that.

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<v Speaker 11>It sparks, uh you know, it sparks interest, and it

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<v Speaker 11>sparks like people wanting to look into this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 11>right now, there's because of av Lobe coming out on

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<v Speaker 1>So it just gives an opportunity to uh look into

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<v Speaker 1>this ship.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a few things Joe said there that.

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<v Speaker 11>So first of all, he mentions Avilobe, who we're going

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<v Speaker 1>But he's one of the only guys.

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<v Speaker 11>Who says that this thing is alien.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, most scientists say it's not.

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<v Speaker 11>However, you guys have had a lot of ancient history

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<v Speaker 11>people on the show, right, Most archaeologists, Egyptologists and stuff

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<v Speaker 11>there's people go out on a limb and say, hey, actually,

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<v Speaker 11>I think that story is bullshit. So you can think

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<v Speaker 11>in the ancient history world, Okay, And I was going

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<v Speaker 11>to say, next slide to you, but I'm actually talking

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 11>So after nineteen ninety three, we get these guys, all right,

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<v Speaker 11>Independence Day I believe nineteen ninety seven, Deep Impact and

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<v Speaker 11>Armageddon I believe came out both in nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 1>To ask you, guys, what do you.

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<v Speaker 11>See in common about these three advertisements for these three movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for a couple different things.

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<v Speaker 8>Predictive programming, sure, yeah, yeah, definitely, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Else, regardless, it is something that's going to like impact

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<v Speaker 3>the earth and devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Horrible?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are we looking at here? Who are we looking at?

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<v Speaker 5>Bruce Willis?

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<v Speaker 11>Bruce Willis, Yeah, Morgan Freeman, will Smith. These are three

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<v Speaker 11>of the biggest actors in Hollywood in the nineties, right,

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<v Speaker 11>And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm just saying that that might be for a reason. Right,

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<v Speaker 11>somebody mentioned predictive programming, right, right.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, Dave.

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<v Speaker 8>I would add to that because I like where you're

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<v Speaker 8>going with this and say, well, maybe you've seen this,

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<v Speaker 8>so I'll just throw it out there. There's a I

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<v Speaker 8>don't promote Wikipedia. There is one couple good Wikipedia articles

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<v Speaker 8>that I've seen. One is called the Military Entertainment Complex,

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<v Speaker 8>and it has a list of movies that were made

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<v Speaker 8>with the DoD and other forms of government, including the CIA,

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<v Speaker 8>and these gentlemen here that we're looking at, a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of their movies are on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>I would believe that one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 11>I'd love for you to send me that list actually,

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<v Speaker 11>or tell me after when we get offline so I

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<v Speaker 11>can check it out. But yeah, I believe that one

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<v Speaker 11>hundred percent. I have a question here, and it's are

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<v Speaker 11>you the mark?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I the mark?

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<v Speaker 11>The mark is a pro wrestling term, meaning like when

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<v Speaker 11>Whole Cogan stabs his butts friend in the back and

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<v Speaker 11>the whole crowd goes no, and then there's maybe like

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<v Speaker 11>ten people in the crowd are like, oh, this is fake.

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<v Speaker 1>The mark is the guy that's like, oh no, Whole

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<v Speaker 1>Cogan turned bad.

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<v Speaker 11>I can't believe it, right, And I generally think that

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<v Speaker 11>we're all the mark in some way or another, not

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<v Speaker 11>just on this topic but in most But I personally

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<v Speaker 11>fucking love all three of these movies too, so I've

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<v Speaker 11>seen them all a million times. There's another one that

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<v Speaker 11>came out in nineteen ninety seven, Contacts starring Jody Foster, where.

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<v Speaker 2>She was bugged out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a trip, right.

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<v Speaker 11>She's she's working at the Aricibo Observatory in Puerto Rico,

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<v Speaker 11>and she is the lead scientist for SETI, the Search

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<v Speaker 11>for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, which I don't believe is still in operation.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 8>Carl Sagan wrote the original script for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it really is. Go ahead, I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Sagan's a rather interesting guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 10>Y'all forgot the best one out the while. Y'all don't

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<v Speaker 10>remember the arrival? Remember when he was able to bend

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<v Speaker 10>to knees backwards and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>At the arrival? Was that in the nineties, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Sheen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was what Charlie Sheen I got.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't remember that one. I'll have to look

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<v Speaker 1>in to it, man, I don't remember that one.

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<v Speaker 11>I remember these guys because one of the themes, and

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<v Speaker 11>somebody mentioned is that I think Nick mentioned, is that

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<v Speaker 11>in Deep Impact and Armageddon came out in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same year, an asteroid is coming for Earth.

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<v Speaker 11>In the government it has to save us, right and

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<v Speaker 11>Independence Day is an alien mothership and we need the

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<v Speaker 11>government to save us. Will Smith, Right, So if this

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<v Speaker 11>thing is, if this thing we're about to talk to

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<v Speaker 11>you today talk about today as.

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<v Speaker 1>An alien mothership, Will Smith better get his shit together.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna need his ass, right, So I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to hang around this slide too much.

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<v Speaker 11>Just a short agenda, interstellar object overview, detection methods, detailed

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<v Speaker 11>object comparisons, scientific perspectives, a volbe we mentioned, talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About his research, and a little bit of media and

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<v Speaker 11>A couple of key scientific terms I'm highlighting in red.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect you guys to read all this shit,

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<v Speaker 1>or of anyone who's watching.

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<v Speaker 11>But the eccentricity is a measure of an orbit shape

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<v Speaker 11>ranging zero, which is a circle, it's a complete circle

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<v Speaker 11>around the Sun, to greater than one, or hyperbola. Hyperbola

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<v Speaker 1>Leave the Solar system. So we're keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 11>Eccentricity greater than one is a trajectory that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that's in the Solar system is less than one.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it.

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<v Speaker 11>Also, the perihelion is measured in an astronomical units it's

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<v Speaker 11>and that perihelion is the average Earth suns It's a

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<v Speaker 1>The perihelion is a point in an object's orbit closest

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<v Speaker 11>So Joe mentioned something, and what he was talking about

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<v Speaker 11>there was he said that this thing is coming from

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<v Speaker 11>behind the sun. That's a little bit of misinformation there.

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<v Speaker 11>We're watching this thing come at us right now. When

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<v Speaker 11>it hits its perielion, Atlas is going to be directly

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<v Speaker 11>So when it's the closest to the Sun it's going

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<v Speaker 11>to get, we're not going to be able to look.

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<v Speaker 1>At it at all.

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<v Speaker 11>That's part of why Avolobe is speculating. Okay, that's part

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<v Speaker 11>of what's giving it the speculation. We'll get to that

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<v Speaker 11>in a bit. The coma is the tail a cloud

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<v Speaker 11>of gas or dust surrounding nucleus of a comet and

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<v Speaker 11>then a hyperbolic orbit I mentioned earlier, orbital path with

436
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<v Speaker 11>eccentricity greater than one. Objects on hyperbolic orbits passed through

437
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<v Speaker 11>once and then escape into the interstellar space not returning,

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<v Speaker 11>so we've only seen three of those to dates starting

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<v Speaker 11>in twenty seventeen. These aren't as important except for the

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<v Speaker 11>orbital inclination and velocity that determines the eccentricity and the trajectory.

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<v Speaker 11>So the velocity in the orbital inclination is what makes

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<v Speaker 11>up the eccentricity and what decides if the object is

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<v Speaker 11>going to start orbiting the Sun or shoot out into

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<v Speaker 11>space after.

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<v Speaker 1>It passes it. Okay, how do they name these things?

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<v Speaker 11>Comments are typically named after the discoverers or the observatory

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<v Speaker 11>that found them interstellar objects, they had to create a

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<v Speaker 11>new one with the prefix eye for a Mua mua,

449
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<v Speaker 11>which means scout or messenger in Hawaiian, that reflecting its

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<v Speaker 11>status as a first detected interstellar visitor. But usually they're

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<v Speaker 11>named after an observatory or a dude. Two I Borisov

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<v Speaker 11>was named after a dude amst imateur astronomermer who found it.

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<v Speaker 11>Three I at Lists was named after the observatory that

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<v Speaker 11>initially discovered it. So I wanted to talk a little

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<v Speaker 11>bit about what's in the Solar System. There's over one

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<v Speaker 11>million asteroids larger than one kilometer in diameter. These are

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<v Speaker 11>all in orbit with the Sun and do not have

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<v Speaker 11>an eccentricity greater than one. Comments holds approximately three thousand

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<v Speaker 11>known comets. Note the word known comments because we really

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<v Speaker 11>don't know a whole lot of shit, even about our

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<v Speaker 11>own Solar System.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to that later.

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<v Speaker 11>There's other bodies Sources contains millions of smaller objects, including meteoroids, centaurs,

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<v Speaker 11>and trans Neptunian objects. I read what those were yesterday,

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<v Speaker 11>but I forget now. Centaurs and trans Neptunian objects. Somebody

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<v Speaker 11>wants to look it up, please go ahead. But we're

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<v Speaker 11>looking at the Orc Cloud and the asteroid belt here.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 11>Orc Cloud is located far from the Sun two thousand

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<v Speaker 11>to one hundred thousand astronomical units away, mostly of icy comets,

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<v Speaker 11>small planets.

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<v Speaker 1>And remnants of the Solar System formation.

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<v Speaker 11>The asteroid belt, overview is that the one that everyone's

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<v Speaker 11>heard about that's located between Mars and Jupiter to four

475
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<v Speaker 11>astronomical units from the Sun. Consists mostly of rocky and

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<v Speaker 11>metallic asteroids. So these are the bad boys that we're

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<v Speaker 11>here to talk about today. Has anyone ever heard a

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<v Speaker 11>boris of an You, guys, is this the first time

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<v Speaker 11>you're hearing aforsa anyone, anyone?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I will say really quickly.

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<v Speaker 7>Is the idea of the trans plutonium is a very

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<v Speaker 7>interesting idea in modern magic, contemporary to like Kenneth Grant

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<v Speaker 7>and his idea of the trans plutonium, as well as

484
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<v Speaker 7>Twyman's idea of the hyper Uranian. And so there is

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<v Speaker 7>another idea. I know we're talking about astrology, but astrology

486
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<v Speaker 7>is in some ways a speculative sort of cosmological map, right,

487
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<v Speaker 7>it's not fixed. We can only be the observer of

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<v Speaker 7>things that we see from afar. We can't testably prove.

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<v Speaker 7>We might have methodologies, but we can't testably prove what's

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<v Speaker 7>out there. We can just observe them and describe them.

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<v Speaker 7>And the description is the sort of layer that especially

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<v Speaker 7>magicians are most interested in, I would say. And so

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<v Speaker 7>the idea of the trans Plutonian can also be compared

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<v Speaker 7>to a contragastological figure named Katu, who is the smoky

495
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<v Speaker 7>tale of the dragon, and he is also the lord

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<v Speaker 7>of comets and asteroids. So there's something interesting. And this

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<v Speaker 7>would be like a realm of dreams. It would be

498
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<v Speaker 7>like a very dreamlike delusional flux space, a space of smoke,

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<v Speaker 7>a space where you could draw ideas from that have

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<v Speaker 7>in one perspective the little potential on their own, but

501
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<v Speaker 7>when you reconstitute them into with synthesis or with other things,

502
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<v Speaker 7>they can become something greater. So like a story also

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<v Speaker 7>comes from this idea of like the trans Neptunian. You're

504
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<v Speaker 7>drawing in all these different elements and remixing them. So

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to throw that out there that you

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<v Speaker 7>can also understand astrology through this more kind of meta

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<v Speaker 7>mythol meta mythological sort of framework.

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<v Speaker 11>I appreciate that, and I want to encourage you guys

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<v Speaker 11>to jump in anytime you want. I don't want to

510
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<v Speaker 11>be powerpointing this whole time without hearing anything in the background,

511
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<v Speaker 11>So thank you. And yeah, I mean, humans are storytellers

512
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<v Speaker 11>and we still do it even through science.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we give these things cool names like Atlas

514
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<v Speaker 1>or what was that.

515
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<v Speaker 11>Trans I'm trying to find it here, trans Plutonian or whatever.

516
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<v Speaker 11>We still do that today, and we're doing it right

517
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<v Speaker 11>now with this with these objects right and we've been

518
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<v Speaker 11>telling stories about the stars and the night sky since

519
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<v Speaker 11>probably for three hundred plus thousan years maybe longer, probably

520
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<v Speaker 11>lower forms of hominids. We're talking about this shit too.

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<v Speaker 11>So was first discovered on October nineteenth, twenty seventeen. And

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<v Speaker 11>keep this in mind, forty days after perihelion, So forty

523
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<v Speaker 11>days after its closest approach to the sun, this bad

524
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<v Speaker 11>boy was on its way out. It was notable for

525
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<v Speaker 11>its elongated shape. I'm probably gonna mention that a couple

526
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<v Speaker 11>different times. Borisov, the dude, was from Crimea and it

527
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<v Speaker 11>was first spot at August thirtieth, twenty twenty nine. His

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<v Speaker 11>name was Gannadi Borisov, and he discovered it on a

529
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<v Speaker 11>pretty small telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 11>I just think that there's some badass out there right now,

532
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<v Speaker 11>some kid or something he's going to find, you.

533
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<v Speaker 1>Know, the one that might take us out, you know,

534
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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that's cool.

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<v Speaker 11>I love amateur astronomy, and I'll mention how you guys

536
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<v Speaker 11>could get involved in this later, even if you don't

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<v Speaker 11>have a telescope, So for you fun day, Yeah real.

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<v Speaker 10>Quick, before you said, you know how the Simpsons always

539
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<v Speaker 10>have predictions and stuff like that, Well, I love the

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<v Speaker 10>Simpsons a lot, you know, there's actually an episode where

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<v Speaker 10>Bart finds once that hits planet Earth it's not as

542
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<v Speaker 10>big and destroys it or nothing. But you know how

543
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<v Speaker 10>they always say the Simpsons predict things, so they actually

544
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<v Speaker 10>do have an episode about that for sure exactly.

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<v Speaker 11>And in the movie Deep Impact starring Frodo Baggins or

546
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<v Speaker 11>Elijah Wood, he he's the kid who discovers the one

547
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<v Speaker 11>that's going to hit Earth from his backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 11>The cool part about three I at list it's the

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<v Speaker 11>largest known interstellar object.

551
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<v Speaker 1>It's approximately seven miles wide.

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<v Speaker 11>That's changing constantly because they're pointing stuff at this, like

553
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<v Speaker 11>telescopes all around the world, institutional ones, private ones, just

554
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<v Speaker 11>regular dudes in their backyard. Everyone's point telescope that this

555
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<v Speaker 11>was updating this thing constantly, so that may change over time.

556
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<v Speaker 11>It does show some commentary activity, and we'll get into that.

557
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<v Speaker 1>Muhamua did not show a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 11>Of commentary activity, which kind of sets it apart a

559
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<v Speaker 11>little bit. Just really quick on this one. Methods us

560
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<v Speaker 11>to detect objects. Surveys detect faint and fast moving bodies

561
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<v Speaker 11>that might otherwise go unnoticed. That's the telescopic surveys, orbital

562
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<v Speaker 11>analysis hot we're looking for high orbital eccentricity like I mentioned,

563
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<v Speaker 11>indicates a hyperbolic orbit. It means it's unbound trajectory typical

564
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<v Speaker 11>of interstellar origin, and it's just kind of float by

565
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<v Speaker 11>the Sun and keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>We've only discovered three.

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<v Speaker 11>I think we probably see there's probably in a bunch,

568
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<v Speaker 11>we just haven't had the technology to see it. After

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<v Speaker 11>these things are initially detected, they always point, like your

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<v Speaker 11>hubbles and your James web Space telescopes and stuff like

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<v Speaker 11>that at them and the bigger ones to try to

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<v Speaker 11>get more data.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually discovered by accident.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, real quick, Dave, just in there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know the unicarsal ixagram, the what what,

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<v Speaker 3>the unicoastal hexagram, the tattoo that I had on my

577
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<v Speaker 3>own when I met you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know the tattoo, but please tell me that.

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<v Speaker 3>The hubble, the Hubble telescope. That's how I reflexed the

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<v Speaker 3>mirrors inside of it to see what it sees.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. That's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It reflects on much like the unicoastal extagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to look into that. People. Please send me

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<v Speaker 1>some information on that when we're done.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, sweet, you know I want to throw something in

586
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<v Speaker 8>here real quick.

587
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<v Speaker 1>Bounce this off of you, Dave.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there's a lot of old paintings and what

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<v Speaker 8>I would call religious art from as far back as

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<v Speaker 8>the fourteen hundreds that show just to use a broad term,

591
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<v Speaker 8>UFOs or something out of the normal in the sky.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know, before we had cameras, before we recorded

593
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<v Speaker 8>all this stuff, before we even had like NASA, people

594
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<v Speaker 8>were seeing something up there, usually accompanied by Brian light.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, like you've got the fourteen sixty La tabade

596
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<v Speaker 8>I pulled this up by your talking there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a.

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<v Speaker 8>It depicts Jesus on the cross with the UFO zipping by.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a fourteen sixty painting. You've got Baptism of Christ

600
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<v Speaker 8>painted in seventeen ten by Flemish guy. You have the

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<v Speaker 8>Annunciation with Saint Emedius in fourteen eighty six. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>going to bread through all these artworks, but they're all

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<v Speaker 8>compelling in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I think they are too, And I don't people

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<v Speaker 11>in the fourteen hundreds weren't stupid. People fifty thousand years

606
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<v Speaker 11>ago weren't stupid. They're the same sized brains that we do, right,

607
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<v Speaker 11>So there definitely saw something. The question is, I guess

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<v Speaker 11>in relation to this topic, is did they see something

609
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<v Speaker 11>that came from a different solar system, something interstellar, or

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<v Speaker 11>did they see something that came from the art cloud

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<v Speaker 11>or the asteroid belt, something bound by the Sun. Right,

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<v Speaker 11>But to say that we've only discovered three is I think,

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<v Speaker 11>like I mentioned, likely wrong, Like may maybe we've been

614
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<v Speaker 11>hit by one May.

615
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they've seen some before.

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<v Speaker 11>I personally believe that there's there was an ancient loss

617
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<v Speaker 11>civilization that had technology that you know, understood astronomy very well.

618
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<v Speaker 11>I mean, the Miyans understood astronomy very well, so they

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<v Speaker 11>knew that there was stuff coming and going.

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<v Speaker 1>So U yeah, I think you're right man. Actually yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>And there's one more that I really wanted to mention,

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<v Speaker 8>The fifteen sixty one celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg. Very interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>It inspired this god to create a woodcut of the event,

624
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<v Speaker 8>and it's it looks like chaos. Something came came down

625
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<v Speaker 8>into our our atmosphere and just buzzed around and created chaos.

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<v Speaker 8>Looks like a bunch of things came down. And I

627
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<v Speaker 8>would say too, like more and more modern times, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>thinking about that nineteen forty I think the Battle of

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<v Speaker 8>Los Angeles, where we have there's a lot of documentation

630
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<v Speaker 8>like something was up there in the sky. So there's

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<v Speaker 8>all kinds of crazy accounts that came out afterwards that

632
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<v Speaker 8>were kind of countering what the government was trying to

633
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<v Speaker 8>tell everybody that it was. And they just dumped hounds

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<v Speaker 8>of ammunition at this thing and it never came down.

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<v Speaker 8>If it was a weather blown they would have blown

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<v Speaker 8>it out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 11>So yeah, that Germany one literally looked like a space

638
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<v Speaker 11>battle in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked like some Star Wars shit, you know.

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<v Speaker 11>And the Battle of Los Angeles, which they made another

641
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<v Speaker 11>Hollywood movie about that there was in the I think

642
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<v Speaker 11>early twenty tens, but that was like took place in

643
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 11>modern time. They just called it Battle of Los Angeles.

644
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 11>The US Army unloaded on that thing.

645
00:33:54.599 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and not what you happened. There was thousands of witnesses.

646
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, and some of those witnesses would later go off,

647
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 8>you know, to scatter around do all these other various interviews.

648
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 8>Some of them survived, and they get real interesting because

649
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 8>a lot of those people said they were seeing orbs

650
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 8>flying around and like riding for buzzing the beach. It

651
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 8>was more than just that one big object, so.

652
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 9>Exactly, and so this is what it was after World

653
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.920
<v Speaker 9>War two. Just to add on the whole idea of

654
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 9>like documented anomalies after World War two in Washington, d C.

655
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:40.559
<v Speaker 9>There were so many lights in two, thank you, that

656
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.679
<v Speaker 9>it became undeniable and had to be addressed by the

657
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 9>President himself, I believe, if not his Defense department. Anyway,

658
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 9>I just wanted to.

659
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<v Speaker 11>Add Yeah, I mean there's cave drawings. We have fucking

660
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 11>UFOs on them, you know what I'm saying. So we've

661
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.039
<v Speaker 11>been seeing shit coming going from this planet from a

662
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<v Speaker 11>lot for a long time.

663
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Whether it was aliens or not, I don't know.

664
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<v Speaker 2>I like to think.

665
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, one thing I do, I do want to

666
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 3>just twist in there too, Uh something I kind of

667
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.199
<v Speaker 3>I kind of mentioned it before, Uh you know, when

668
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 3>it comes even to our whole understanding of what's out

669
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 3>there to begin with, kind of I forgot the person's

670
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>name whoever had it where you know, everything was revolving

671
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 3>around the Earth and then when we switched to the sun.

672
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Both of them are occultists and both of them are alchemists,

673
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>and I I'm covering somebody I'm gonna start recording it soon,

674
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.639
<v Speaker 3>and people pie a tie to hearing about him.

675
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 2>But tychobrahe I covered him because he was a you know, he.

676
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Had his two observatories, and he built his own ship,

677
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 3>and he actually made stuff better and made it more

678
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 3>more on point, and he was totally into the occult.

679
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 3>He had talismans on the observatory. He had the flower

680
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 3>beds were grown in planetary energies. He had his own

681
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 3>like apothecary, like it was a self sustaining thing too,

682
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 3>like they were able, like they were making the metics

683
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>in the stuff that he was growing. He was in

684
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>charge of where he lived to actually treat people as well.

685
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 3>And it was all being done in this observatory, turned

686
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 3>it into an alchemy lab besides looking at stars. So

687
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 3>even sometimes when it comes to all this stuff, I

688
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 3>do take it like there might be like some other

689
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 3>truths in there that aren't being seen, you know what

690
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. I do think there might be some occultism

691
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 3>sometimes within this stuff.

692
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Nowadays, WBC.

693
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 11>Probably and one of the biggest secret keeper organizations of

694
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.320
<v Speaker 11>all time, the Catholic Church, the Vatican, has a big

695
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 11>ass telescope in Arizona.

696
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Did you guys know.

697
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, yeah.

698
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's.

699
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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, one one, yeah, yea, Lucifer, Yeah yeah. It's interesting

700
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 10>because Lucifer, you know, say in Devil, you know that

701
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 10>a lot of times some people will go and reference

702
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 10>that as being having knowledge or somebody trying to give

703
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 10>you knowledge. That's why they you know, the serpent had

704
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 10>Adam and Eve from the Tree of Knowledge exactly.

705
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 8>There's there's definitely like to add to what Nick saying,

706
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 8>a cult component to all this in my opinion as well.

707
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 8>I mean even down to just like Jack Parson's knew

708
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 8>Kenneth Arnold who saw the you know, the nineteen forty

709
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 8>seven account that kicked off the UFO wave of a

710
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 8>forty seven, he knew Jack Parsons like and you know

711
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 8>even as far back as like the Three Wise Men,

712
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 8>they were alchemist astronomers. That whole story is about these

713
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 8>three guys that were I think old zoroasters from Iran

714
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 8>and or Magi are both, and you know, these are

715
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 8>guys in touch with the language of the stars and

716
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 8>the old spiritual technologies of astronomy. But there are also

717
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 8>alchemists and a cultists watching this following this thing in

718
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 8>the sky that you know, as the story goes, led

719
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 8>them to Bethlehem.

720
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 11>It's interesting you bring up Kenneth Arnold because I know

721
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 11>his granddaughter and her boyfriend and they're both occultists.

722
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go ahead, Oh no, to talk about Lucifer again

723
00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 4>for just one second, also known as the Morning Star.

724
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 4>Some have speculated that some of the asteroids that we

725
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>see around the Earth were actually the impacts from when

726
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 4>he was cast from heaven with his fallen angels, and

727
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot of times in pop culture he is depicted

728
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 4>as that fall from heaven like an asteroid, like a

729
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 4>mighty fire falling.

730
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 5>That's interesting.

731
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 7>What Broke said was really important, I think to even

732
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 7>to play into what I said about the Tontric sort

733
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 7>of figure, the Joe Tisha figure, Katou. He is a

734
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 7>luciferic force, and he can be divided between hode or

735
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 7>mercury and nutsock or venus, so again tying into that

736
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 7>luciferic force, but you could also break it into the

737
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 7>Steiner cosmology, where there's a lucifer and an armand he

738
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 7>would actually fit both of those archetypes, and he does.

739
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 7>And I think that Steiner was also drawing from some

740
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 7>of those ideas that obviously come from it. So I

741
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 7>think it's really important to like we're saying, you can

742
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 7>encapsulate it in one sort of greater mythology, but you

743
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 7>can also encapsulate it in another, just like a NASA

744
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 7>presents a kind of Kabbala. Like Nick and I discuss

745
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 7>this a lot. If you understand kabala to a degree,

746
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 7>you can if you understand astronomy to a degree, you

747
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 7>actually understand kabala to a degree. And if you understand kabala,

748
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 7>you can look at the planetary system as a kind

749
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 7>of a way of understanding it. It's an imperfect way,

750
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, I mean it's really important. It's like any

751
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 7>story by a magician. It's not necessarily occult it. It

752
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 7>might might be encoded sometimes. That's I think a better

753
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 7>way to think of it.

754
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, another thing is just just not to keep

755
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 3>on helping on the occultism. But you know he mentioned

756
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.199
<v Speaker 3>somebody mentioned Jack Parsons before.

757
00:39:58.199 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Tim.

758
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean you have him, uh, you know, like a

759
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of certain things that he accomplished, some things that

760
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 3>we have now obviously going to space and doing certain

761
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 3>things wouldn't have technically been possible, and uh, you know,

762
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 3>even just between that and he was involved with Alista Crowley.

763
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 3>And then like, like I mentioned before, the Hubble telescope,

764
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 3>which is NASA's their mirrors, is the universal Hexagram, like

765
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's something off with space.

766
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nick, you.

767
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 8>Brought up the Bledsoe's too, man, and like they're saying

768
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 8>the younger Bletsoe is going out on podcasts now and

769
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 8>saying that this the UFO.

770
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Thing is, it's totally an occult thing and time in

771
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the US government. Yeah he is. Yeah, I heard him

772
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>say that a contact in the desert.

773
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's imps.

774
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.800
<v Speaker 8>That's the thing now, is like and I don't know

775
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 8>if they were if they went into this whole scenario

776
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 8>with an esoteric lane, but they've definitely found themselves at

777
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 8>the doorsteps of the esoteric lane.

778
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

779
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 11>And just even NASA uses you know, we're using the

780
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 11>term at list to describe this telescope that found three

781
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 11>I at lists the commet and you know that's based

782
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 11>in myth and whatnot, right, and so, but it is

783
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 11>an acronym because they like their acronyms. It's an asteroid

784
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 11>terrestrial impact last keyword, last alert system.

785
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 1>That kind of cracks me up. Just that name.

786
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 11>Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert System. It's it's scans the

787
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 11>sky for moving objects, four telescopes across Chile, South Africa,

788
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 11>and Hawaii, and it takes over eight hundred images a night.

789
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 11>They first saw this thing on July first, twenty twenty five.

790
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 11>And that's it right there in the picture.

791
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I want to talk a bit about a mua mua.

792
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:06.320
<v Speaker 13>And this.

793
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 11>We're just highlighting the differences in these things, okay, guys.

794
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 11>So the estimated size range was one hundred to one

795
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 11>thousand meters. That's a large range of variability, just.

796
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Keep that in mind. And it had a highly elongated

797
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>cigar like shape.

798
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 11>Its speed was eighty seven point seven kilometers a second

799
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 11>at perihelion. They're always going the fastest at their perihelion

800
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 11>as close to the Sun as possible, and twenty six

801
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 11>point three three kilometers and in clumeters a second in

802
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 11>interstellar space.

803
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Still really fast.

804
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 11>But it.

805
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 1>It This is the one that sparked the whole thing, right,

806
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 1>so checked out.

807
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 11>This is Borisov discovered by an amateur astronomer using a

808
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 11>built telescope.

809
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it had comic like.

810
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 11>Behavior they were to be able to They were able

811
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 11>to tell that this was a comment pretty quickly, but

812
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 11>it was from another solar system. It was one kilometer wide,

813
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 11>so significantly bigger, with a tail up to one hundred

814
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 11>thousand miles. The tail extended up one up to hundred

815
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 11>thousand miles thirty two point two kilometers a second, and

816
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 11>forty two for forty klometers.

817
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>A second in interte interstellar space. This thing actually was

818
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>very uh.

819
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.719
<v Speaker 11>Uh, it wasn't very dense. It actually started breaking up

820
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 11>as it came closer to the Sun and we lost

821
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 11>like some.

822
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Of this is in our solar system right now?

823
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:42.039
<v Speaker 9>May I ask, yes, may I ask the boris of

824
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 9>what was its size relative to Omahuma? And then also

825
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 9>what is the Alice three? I what that size happened?

826
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 9>Is a lot larger as well.

827
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's much larger. And it's a great question that

828
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to.

829
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 11>I'm going to compare all of them, but just to

830
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 11>go back, is one hundred to one thousand meters. This

831
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 11>one's a kilometer wide, okay, and Atlas is seven miles

832
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.639
<v Speaker 11>or eleven kilometers wild wide.

833
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 1>And this bad boy is coming in.

834
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.679
<v Speaker 11>It's traveling at speeds between one hundred and thirty thousand

835
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 11>to one hundred and fifty two thousand miles per hour

836
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 11>or fifty eight kilometers per second, which is essentially five

837
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 11>hundred and eighty soccer fields per second, and it's almost

838
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 11>twice as.

839
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Fast as Borisov and as well as a muamua. The

840
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 1>weird thing about a muamua is it.

841
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 11>Had it's sped up, and we're going to get to

842
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 11>that it's sped up in a really weird way.

843
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But this is three I Atlas, and yeah, this is

844
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the best pictures we have of it right now,

845
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>is of like a couple of days ago.

846
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 11>They're probably better ones that I now, or that they're

847
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 11>going to have by the end of the weekend, because

848
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 11>like I said, everyone's going banana's over the thing. The

849
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 11>thing about this is we caught this one pre perry helion,

850
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 11>So we caught this one way before it hit the sun,

851
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 11>which means we got a lot of time and a

852
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 11>lot of good opportunities to make some observations about this thing.

853
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<v Speaker 11>They say, the composition and astronomy is full of this

854
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 11>kind of stuff, guys, but likely includes so you're going

855
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 11>to see a lot of if you're reading stuff online

856
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.239
<v Speaker 11>or here watching videos, you're going to hear stuff like

857
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 11>light light likely maybe could be possibly right, Just fyi,

858
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 11>it's estimated to be about seven billion years old, predating

859
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 11>the formation of our solar system. I had to throw

860
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.559
<v Speaker 11>this slide in there, That's why it looks different. But

861
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 11>I just wanted to get dates and distances for Earth

862
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 11>so we can talk about that. And this is where

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00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 11>I'm going to need my next link, Nick, when I

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00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 11>give you the go ahead. But December nineteenth, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 11>at a distance of approximately one point eight astronomical units,

866
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.559
<v Speaker 11>which equals about two hundred and sixty nine million kilometers,

867
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 11>this is when it's going to reach its closest point

868
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.599
<v Speaker 11>to Earth, So just fyi.

869
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:19.679
<v Speaker 1>And it's perihelion.

870
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 11>It's October twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, so the best

871
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 11>time to look at this thing is going to be

872
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 11>like September, October, November, December, that kind of thing. But I.

873
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to throw this out there for modern UFO UAP.

874
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 11>Phenomenon lore straight from the mouth of mister Jeremy Corbel.

875
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 1>If you know who he is, will you hit the

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00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>next link? Nick? Yes, sir, please, and that is on

877
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 1>a yes, this is it's on X This one should

878
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>be an X link.

879
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:00.800
<v Speaker 13>Sorry.

880
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 5>I would assume it would be easier to see this

881
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 5>during a new moon.

882
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, definitely, yeah, and I'll get to that in a second.

883
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 14>But the lie is coming all indications like all of them,

884
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 14>is it? That lie is going to be that there

885
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 14>is a craft slowly making its way to us here

886
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 14>on Earth, and that is the lie they're going to

887
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 14>want you.

888
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That's it, Nick.

889
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

890
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 1>You can watch that whole interview somewhere, probably on YouTube.

891
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>So he's saying that it's not a spacecraft.

892
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 11>Well, I don't even know if he's talking about this,

893
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 11>but it's baby probably like.

894
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 9>That that was recorded before this was notified. Not that

895
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 9>he's not referring to something like this or this particularly,

896
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 9>just just yes.

897
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 1>It definitely was recorded months ago.

898
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 11>But yeah, I always consider psy op in situations like this, guys,

899
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 11>So I'm giving you guys the science here, but I'm

900
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 11>open to speculation and I always consider.

901
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 9>A sy I just wanted to point out that someone,

902
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.880
<v Speaker 9>actually a couple of the wise people in the chat

903
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:38.079
<v Speaker 9>noted the concept of Project Bluebeam, which I'm sure people

904
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 9>are familiar with but maybe you want to break that down,

905
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 9>And I think that's important, like relative to Blue Book,

906
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 9>which that we know is not entirely true. So the

907
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 9>Blue I think is like related to the Black ops

908
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:57.800
<v Speaker 9>and the White ops covert and overt and and then

909
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 9>you got the Blue but the Blue Book, maybe you

910
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:01.880
<v Speaker 9>want to break that down.

911
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just quickly. I grocked it really quick so

912
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 1>I could just answer the question quickly.

913
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 11>But Project Bluebeam is a conspiracy theory proposed by a

914
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 11>dude named surge Monist in the nineteen nineties, claiming the

915
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 11>NASA and global leads planned to establish a new world

916
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 11>order by faking a global event such as an alien

917
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 11>invasion or divine second coming or both at the same time,

918
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 11>just depending on your belief system, using advanced holographic technology,

919
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 11>mind control, telepathic communication, and manipulate populations into accepting it

920
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 11>to atalitarian regime. And I think you guys can probably

921
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 11>think for yourself and see some examples of that happening

922
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 11>right now in society right now, right, things like you know,

923
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 11>advanced technology for mind control, right, you know our phones

924
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 11>are doing that, right, you know our phones are doing

925
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 11>that to us. The algorithms are doing that to us,

926
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 11>and the the what's the dude's name, the guy Jake Barber.

927
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.880
<v Speaker 11>He's one of the most recent whistleblowers in the modern

928
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 11>UAP phenomenon. All these modern UAP whistleblowers are former military.

929
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I was former military. Tyrone's former military. When you're talking

930
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>about people who have been Tyrone.

931
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.039
<v Speaker 11>And I weren't trained in this, but people were trained

932
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 11>twenty years in counterintelligence, twenty years in espionage, twenty years

933
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 11>in basically faking it, lying, you know, being somebody that

934
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 11>they're not. And then they're all coming out within the

935
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 11>last like, you know, since a Muamu was found, and

936
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.639
<v Speaker 11>since the New York Times article that came out talking

937
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 11>about the TikTok, which is in twenty seventeen as well

938
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 11>tic TAC.

939
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, TICTAC object, also twenty seventeen. Then you get these.

940
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 11>Wave of guys coming out saying, oh, yeah, I'm a whistleblower, right.

941
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Biden's the guy who put in the Whistleblower Act and

942
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:06.679
<v Speaker 1>gave these guys permission to do so.

943
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 11>I haven't trusted government since nine to eleven of you guys,

944
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 11>So I don't know about you guys.

945
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 10>But yeah, I can't believe with those I don't believe

946
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 10>whistle blowers, bro, Like you said, they've been trained for

947
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 10>their whole military career to do something. Look, look, you

948
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.159
<v Speaker 10>know just as well as I know, they teach us

949
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 10>muscle memory, how to react without ever really thinking, and

950
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 10>they can't fake it that well, you know what I'm saying.

951
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 10>So they don't put my trust in the governmental nord.

952
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.679
<v Speaker 10>The whistle blowers and stuff like that. Those least of

953
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:37.840
<v Speaker 10>the people that I would pay attention to because I

954
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 10>know how easy it is to be manipulated by these individuals.

955
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 10>I mean basically training just let alone by itself. I

956
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 10>went to Fort Benning, Georgia, you know, home of the infantry,

957
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 10>and they hound on you not to think, you know,

958
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 10>just react off of muscle and shit like that. So

959
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:56.960
<v Speaker 10>just with these whistle blowers and saying, yeah, I want

960
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 10>to tell you this information, but I don't want to

961
00:51:58.880 --> 00:51:59.800
<v Speaker 10>tell you this information.

962
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 2>So what are you really doing?

963
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 10>You're doing it just to gain money, because if you

964
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 10>really cared about sharing the information, you would just come

965
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 10>out and say if fuck the you know the whole

966
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:11.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, I got a clearance type thing, you know,

967
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.679
<v Speaker 10>if you really want people to know the truth and

968
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.119
<v Speaker 10>you have it, you wouldn't be seeing him beating around

969
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 10>the bush.

970
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 8>So there's some whistleblowers who came out that were not

971
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 8>former military, former government, sure or active you know, CIA

972
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Speaker 8>or whatever. And those guys, those guys get well, yes,

973
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.239
<v Speaker 8>he's a good one. But what I'm thinking about is

974
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 8>some of the ones who have tried to come out

975
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 8>on Reddit. These are some of the guys who I

976
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 8>would my opinion is that they didn't want the lights,

977
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 8>camera action book deal, Jeremy Corbell by the side. They

978
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.519
<v Speaker 8>just had a story that they wanted to share, perhaps,

979
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 8>and they tried to do it on Reddit, and I'm

980
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 8>thinking of two of those in particular, and there they

981
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 8>were only allowed to be on there for about two

982
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 8>days before Reddit took the whole thing down. Luckily, myself

983
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 8>and some others saved the transcripts. But I'm saying that

984
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 8>we're in a situation here where some whistleblowers are allowed

985
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 8>to proceed where others are not. And it seems like

986
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 8>the ones who are allowed to proceed are possibly controlled

987
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:24.920
<v Speaker 8>opposition because they are government to begin with the same.

988
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 10>Bro follow the money, Just follow the money, That's what

989
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 10>they say. Follow the money and you'll find everything else.

990
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 10>Like you said, the ones that don't want the limelight,

991
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 10>they're usually the ones that are broke, you know, don't

992
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 10>really have anything going on for them and stuff like this.

993
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 10>And the ones that's sitting out there telling it. You know,

994
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.039
<v Speaker 10>they got all this fancy ass equipment. You know, they

995
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 10>got money, they got people following them, recording and doing

996
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 10>this that, and the third fold, you got even minions

997
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 10>out there fighting for them, and they don't even know

998
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:48.320
<v Speaker 10>what they hell they talking about.

999
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely follow the money.

1000
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I mean one of these guys is was

1001
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 8>a current university professor who came out was like, look,

1002
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, I just want to get this off my

1003
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.840
<v Speaker 8>chest and proceeded to talk to people on Reddit for

1004
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 8>until they basically shut him down. He just took it

1005
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 8>turned into a massive Q and A where he was

1006
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 8>just like, Hey, this is is what happened. I worked

1007
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 8>at this facility, they had a craft there.

1008
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to get this soft my chest. I'm choosing

1009
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.519
<v Speaker 1>to do it on here so I can maybe keep.

1010
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 8>My identity intact. But anyway, he got taken down, and

1011
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:24.800
<v Speaker 8>you know, so we looked into this guy and he

1012
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:27.360
<v Speaker 8>seemed legit. He could have made the whole thing up,

1013
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.360
<v Speaker 8>but there weren't a lot of red flags, And it's like,

1014
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 8>why because I think that Reddit is totally controlled by

1015
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 8>the government right now. So in my opinion, the reason

1016
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 8>why I was taken off Reddit was because of military

1017
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 8>and government back channels running the whole reddit to begin with.

1018
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think we would be remiss without mentioning

1019
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.679
<v Speaker 5>the article that's come out within the last month. Forgive

1020
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 5>me for not remembering his name, but there was a

1021
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 5>gentleman who of course works for the Pentagon who came

1022
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 5>out and said, basically the whole UFO UAP thing was

1023
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 5>actually just a hazing ritual performed in the Air Force.

1024
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 5>Did you guys see that article? Anybody read it?

1025
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I came across it. Yeah.

1026
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 15>So basically what they were saying is when they would

1027
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 15>have new initients, you know, obviously they would silo information

1028
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:19.840
<v Speaker 15>and things like that, but they would hand out a

1029
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 15>fake briefing supposedly to make people believe that UFO things

1030
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 15>were happening, when really it was just us testing our

1031
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 15>technologies back in the day, you know, when we were

1032
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.519
<v Speaker 15>in the Cold War with Russia and seeing if we

1033
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 15>had the capabilities to combat their nuclear capabilities and things

1034
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 15>like that. So I totally agree they're running counter ops

1035
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 15>on this. I feel like the ops are and ops and.

1036
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 5>They're just trying to muddy the water so you don't

1037
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 5>know what to believe or who to trust.

1038
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 1>I think you're spot on Brook as far as mudding

1039
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the waters.

1040
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.960
<v Speaker 11>And one of the ways they do that is a

1041
00:55:56.079 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 11>concept called the useful idiot. The person doesn't have to

1042
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.800
<v Speaker 11>be a literal idiot, but they the government uses people

1043
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.840
<v Speaker 11>to push a narrative. It's the whole story behind the

1044
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 11>X Files. And my poster behind me. Malder was a

1045
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:13.920
<v Speaker 11>smart guy, but he was their useful idiot. He wanted

1046
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.079
<v Speaker 11>to believe all this stuff, so they led him around

1047
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 11>by his nose, and you know, and it was the

1048
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:23.199
<v Speaker 11>whole thing was a conspiracy in the.

1049
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 1>End, right.

1050
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.920
<v Speaker 11>And I'm not saying Jeremy Corbell's an idiot. I'm just

1051
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 11>saying he might be a useful one.

1052
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that Bob Lazaar is a useful idiot.

1053
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:36.199
<v Speaker 2>But I might.

1054
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying he might be a useful one.

1055
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 11>They could have showed Bob I believe, I tend to

1056
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 11>believe Bob, but they could have showed bub whatever they

1057
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 11>wanted to show him. Everything that they did. Where he

1058
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 11>was at Area S four was highly compartmentalized. He didn't

1059
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:56.159
<v Speaker 11>know anything about anything that was going on unless they

1060
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:58.039
<v Speaker 11>absolutely unless they showed him.

1061
00:56:58.199 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So they could have showed him whatever the fuck they wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And you know, like I'm thinking about some of

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00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 8>the stuff that I've read in like Sanskrit or Mahabarata,

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00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 8>and you know, there's some of these older texts to

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00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 8>talk about a war between Atlantis and a Rama empire,

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00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 8>and they talk about how they had these flying crafts

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00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.960
<v Speaker 8>back in the days of Atlantis, And I wonder when

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<v Speaker 8>I hear Bob Azar talking about things that were found

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00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:31.039
<v Speaker 8>at archaeological digs, if like there wasn't advance. I know

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00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:33.199
<v Speaker 8>this is kind of crazy, man, but it just makes

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00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 8>me wonder if there was like a if Atlantis had

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00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:39.679
<v Speaker 8>flying crafts and that's and we found some. You know,

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00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm as crazy and as we we as that is.

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00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 11>It's not crazy, dude, that what is the David Grushed

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00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 11>said under oath in front of.

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00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Congress that they found you know, they've.

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00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:59.159
<v Speaker 11>Got uh crash, They've got material from crash sites both

1079
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 11>crash sites and and archaeological sites. So he might be

1080
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.840
<v Speaker 11>full of shit, but that's the story they're putting out there,

1081
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 11>is that they have stuff ancient stuff from archaeological digs,

1082
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 11>and they've got new shit from the forties and up.

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00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 7>So I want to just quickly respond to that and

1084
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.440
<v Speaker 7>to sort of build off of something what Brookes said.

1085
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 7>So it is about like competing narratives, I agree, And

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00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.719
<v Speaker 7>it's also about like where the narrative will synthesize.

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00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.400
<v Speaker 6>So the Bloodsoe guy got brought up.

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00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 7>Yes, his new thing is angels and demons synthesized with

1089
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:36.920
<v Speaker 7>obviously aliens. And so it goes to sort of what

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00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:41.800
<v Speaker 7>you're saying, Dave, is that there's always a tendency, especially

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00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 7>with magical groups. And if you look, there's a lot

1092
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 7>of these people are associated with the Typhony and Oto

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00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:48.400
<v Speaker 7>and I have no problem with that. I think it's

1094
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 7>kind of cool, to be honest, but I'm not really

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00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:51.599
<v Speaker 7>into the Lovecraft stuff, as.

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00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 6>I've said many times.

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00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.280
<v Speaker 7>And there's also a lot of Mormons who are very

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00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 7>like Book of Enoch, like that's kind of their real mythologies.

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00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 6>Be not shited. So regardless of what they say, it's really.

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<v Speaker 2>Book enough, you know, I'll go ahead.

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00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, No, that's okay.

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00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:11.000
<v Speaker 7>So what I want to say is that it's really

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00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 7>important that just because they say something is of an

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00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 7>ancient lineage or of an ancient technology, this is something

1105
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 7>that all magicians have done since like the beginning of time.

1106
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 7>They will claim some secret teacher from the very distant past,

1107
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.760
<v Speaker 7>or from the sky or from this oh I received

1108
00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:33.679
<v Speaker 7>this special makes me a special snowflake knowledge. And that's

1109
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.599
<v Speaker 7>not necessarily true. That's sort of a magician building his

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00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 7>own mythology, self mythologizing. So I just want to say

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00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 7>that is that a lot of groups do in groups,

1112
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 7>I'm saying an individual level, but a lot of groups

1113
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:49.199
<v Speaker 7>also do this. They'll say, oh, I receive this, you know,

1114
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 7>initiation into this thing, this thing. So I think a

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00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:56.440
<v Speaker 7>lot of that ancient stuff is actually about that rather

1116
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 7>than an actual ancient technology. Because if it's real, I mean,

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01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.159
<v Speaker 7>I'm I'm open to being wrong, I'm totally am But

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01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 7>if it's real, show me, because that's all I'm gonna

1119
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 7>believe for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, that's how I so too, show me. I need

1121
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 2>to believe, you know. Uh, real quick, sorry, just real quick. Tid. Sorry,

1122
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 2>did you see the video that I posted yesterday?

1123
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it was a video from Freda's Super Rabo

1124
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 3>where he actually it was like making a spoof on

1125
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.199
<v Speaker 3>This is an old video, so back in the day

1126
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 3>there was like somebody who was pretty much encapsulating what

1127
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 3>you were just getting.

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01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:33.239
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty funny like he was spoofing on the whole

1129
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 2>same thing. I thought, maybe I'll go tweat right now. Thanks,

1130
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:39.159
<v Speaker 2>all right, sorry, go ahead.

1131
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:42.519
<v Speaker 10>No, I was just gonna say, that's interesting me because

1132
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.719
<v Speaker 10>you're talking about aliens, and you know, you're talking about

1133
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 10>mythologies and stuff like that. Some of the oldest writing

1134
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:50.039
<v Speaker 10>systems comes from the Samerians. I actually have a higher

1135
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.480
<v Speaker 10>point present presentation that I just got done about the

1136
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 10>Nuna slash the Ananaki. And most people who think about aliens,

1137
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 10>they think about the show Ancient Aliens and so on

1138
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.480
<v Speaker 10>and so forth, and Ananaki and so on and so forth. Well,

1139
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 10>there's actually cuneiform tablets that say they came from the

1140
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.119
<v Speaker 10>deaths of the Sea. Now free Bird in the comments

1141
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 10>section actually said they're not coming from outer space, They're coming.

1142
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:11.400
<v Speaker 2>From below our feet.

1143
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:14.360
<v Speaker 10>And when you look at Incy the inky god he's

1144
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:19.360
<v Speaker 10>a fish god. Ap zoo literally means water inky rows

1145
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 10>from the waters to give us technology and information and

1146
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 10>so on and so forth. This is actually in the

1147
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.000
<v Speaker 10>cuneiform tablets themselves. So when people like Billy Carson and

1148
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.480
<v Speaker 10>so on and say, hey, they came from a planet

1149
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:33.119
<v Speaker 10>called Nibiru that orbit our son every thirty six hundred years,

1150
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:37.079
<v Speaker 10>there's no cuneiform tablet that says that zero zelch none.

1151
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 10>But if you look at their depictions, the pictographic script

1152
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.320
<v Speaker 10>and their writing system, they actually say they came from

1153
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 10>the deaths of the sea, and that's why they depicted

1154
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:46.880
<v Speaker 10>their gods in fish suits.

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01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:50.760
<v Speaker 2>And also, yeah, and that's why the.

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01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 10>Word ab zoom literally means water water knowing water ab

1157
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.559
<v Speaker 10>and zoom means basically knowing. So it's just so interesting

1158
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.440
<v Speaker 10>that we have these different ideas where these you know,

1159
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 10>extraterrestrials or aliens has come from. It's interesting because Dave

1160
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:09.480
<v Speaker 10>said earlier that some people don't believe that they're alien. Well,

1161
01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.679
<v Speaker 10>if anybody that knows me, I like to stick to

1162
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.559
<v Speaker 10>the definitions of word, the etymological meaning. The origins of

1163
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:18.719
<v Speaker 10>the word alien literally just means foreign to us. What

1164
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.000
<v Speaker 10>they're trying to say is that they're not alien intelligence

1165
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 10>or extraterrestrial intelligence. But what is really extraterrestrial intelligence? What

1166
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 10>is intelligence in the first place? Right, we all have

1167
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 10>our own intelligence to survive on this planet.

1168
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:31.719
<v Speaker 2>That's why so.

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01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 10>Many species last for so long, or whatever happens in

1170
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 10>the new species come. But the point is that these gods.

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01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.440
<v Speaker 10>When they first started writing about these gods, they literally

1172
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:42.159
<v Speaker 10>said they came from the deaths of the sea. So

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01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:44.400
<v Speaker 10>they could be gods within this planet that we don't

1174
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.400
<v Speaker 10>know about, and then there can be gods outside our planet.

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01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.679
<v Speaker 10>And the fighting between them because remember you talked about

1176
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 10>Battle of Los Angeles and all these gods. Yet all

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01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 10>these gods they're fighting each other because the technology now

1178
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.719
<v Speaker 10>whatever landed here in the past that you know, they're

1179
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 10>able to reverse engineer or use that material to better

1180
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 10>our technology and stuff like that. We've been doing that

1181
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:08.320
<v Speaker 10>for years and stuff. I mean, look at the Tudecan

1182
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 10>king tut dagger. You remember they found a meteorite, shaped

1183
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 10>it up and put it into a dagger. So we

1184
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.440
<v Speaker 10>know how to work with these things. It just takes years.

1185
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 10>And then somebody mentioned about the technology. You know, when

1186
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:21.320
<v Speaker 10>I was growing up going to school ever since I

1187
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:24.280
<v Speaker 10>can remember a lot of my history teachers used to

1188
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.480
<v Speaker 10>tell me that our government has technology that's fifty years

1189
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:30.079
<v Speaker 10>more advanced than what we have now. So what we're

1190
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:32.639
<v Speaker 10>using right now is actually fifty years old. And a

1191
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.679
<v Speaker 10>good example of that, and Dave can back me up

1192
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.199
<v Speaker 10>on this. When I was in Iraq and Afghanistan, actually

1193
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 10>served in an aviation unit, so I know very well

1194
01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 10>what stuff in the sky looks like. But when I

1195
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.079
<v Speaker 10>was in they was trying to create an aircraft called

1196
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:51.599
<v Speaker 10>the Commanchee. Well it got too expensive and the technology

1197
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:55.199
<v Speaker 10>got too much for them to put on their aircraft,

1198
01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:57.079
<v Speaker 10>so they kind of switched it out and gave it

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01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:01.239
<v Speaker 10>to the A sixty four longboat craft. And that's when

1200
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.239
<v Speaker 10>that's just the basic upgraded version from the Alfro models.

1201
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:07.400
<v Speaker 10>And a lot of people don't realize this, but remember

1202
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 10>when they took when they went and got Osama bin Laden,

1203
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.199
<v Speaker 10>they had helicopters that could barely make any noise. They

1204
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.800
<v Speaker 10>didn't even know there was helicopters around until they crash.

1205
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 10>So we have technology that can be silenced. Another good

1206
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.960
<v Speaker 10>example of this is let's not forget about the Harry

1207
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:23.960
<v Speaker 10>or Jet I remember you. I know you guys watched

1208
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.239
<v Speaker 10>that movie True Lies. You remember the jet that Arnold

1209
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:29.360
<v Speaker 10>Schwarzenegga took took away. Remember how it can move side

1210
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 10>to side and like a helicopter. So they have jets

1211
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:34.280
<v Speaker 10>that can move like helicopters and stuff like that back

1212
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.239
<v Speaker 10>in that time frame. Just imagine the advanced technology that

1213
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:38.519
<v Speaker 10>they have since then.

1214
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we had we.

1215
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:44.719
<v Speaker 11>Were texting each other from our hum v's in Iraq

1216
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:45.760
<v Speaker 11>in two thousand and four.

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01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 1>We were shooting each other. The Blue Force Tracker, Yeah,

1218
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Force Tracker.

1219
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, we used to we had the Google

1220
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 10>maps that we used today to get around in time,

1221
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:55.880
<v Speaker 10>We had that.

1222
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1223
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just so delayed, so bad.

1224
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.159
<v Speaker 10>Sometimes it would drop off, but it was literally called

1225
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 10>the Blue Force Tracker. It's just you can send your

1226
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 10>text messages, you can send UH coordinates, you can send

1227
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:10.559
<v Speaker 10>anything that you need to do, and then you can

1228
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:13.320
<v Speaker 10>send UH. You can watch where everybody at that has

1229
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:16.480
<v Speaker 10>a Blue Force Tracker that's on that same system. You

1230
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 10>can watch where everybody's going. So you had, you know,

1231
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:21.239
<v Speaker 10>a pinpoint of everything where everybody was going.

1232
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, our.

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01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:27.719
<v Speaker 9>Technology, there's a there's a famous story about when the

1234
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:35.639
<v Speaker 9>US military got the first jets, the the pilots of

1235
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 9>the propellered planes swore that they saw gorillas flying the jets,

1236
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.679
<v Speaker 9>or they didn't know what they were. They were describing

1237
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 9>these vehicles that were propellerless planes flown by gorillas, and

1238
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:57.079
<v Speaker 9>little did they know that they were their friends in

1239
01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 9>gorilla masks and they're and so the the idea of

1240
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 9>pranking even could be just a really simple, uh you know,

1241
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:11.079
<v Speaker 9>Brook brought it up how they're using it nowadays in

1242
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:16.119
<v Speaker 9>respects to psyching them out of various UFO phenomena. So,

1243
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:18.679
<v Speaker 9>but I just wanted to point out that it's kind

1244
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 9>of hazing this tradition. But what if it's not only

1245
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:27.280
<v Speaker 9>happening that we know of in respect to that one instance,

1246
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.960
<v Speaker 9>but also in happening in multiplicity and multiple nations and

1247
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.280
<v Speaker 9>maybe even it seems to me that this these anomalies

1248
01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:40.360
<v Speaker 9>and so forth, that there's multiple answers seem to be.

1249
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.719
<v Speaker 16>Kind of the right direction of things. Right, there's not

1250
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:49.000
<v Speaker 16>like one nation. I'm with that, uh even a lot.

1251
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 16>I think there is multiple things going on here. And

1252
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 16>I want to add to that whole ancient technology spiel that.

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01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.840
<v Speaker 8>I went on, like Mahabarata talks about again Rama imp

1254
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:03.880
<v Speaker 8>right versus the Atlantis Empire. If you look into this,

1255
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:07.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, Rama was ruled by these enlightened priest kings

1256
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:12.079
<v Speaker 8>who governed all these cities of that empire, and it

1257
01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:15.320
<v Speaker 8>was called the seven Great capital cities of Rama, and

1258
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 8>they were known in like the classical Hindu texts of

1259
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.360
<v Speaker 8>the seven Rishi cities. And you can still go and

1260
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 8>see that some of those cities talked about in these

1261
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.920
<v Speaker 8>texts exist. One is called herod War.

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01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 1>It's h a r I d w R.

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<v Speaker 8>It's one of the seven Ricchi cities that's.

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01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Talked about in these texts. So if like the cities exist, you.

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01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.840
<v Speaker 8>Know, I'm just saying, like, according to those same texts,

1266
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 8>the people of these places had flying machines and they

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<v Speaker 8>called them them manas.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just throwing that possibility on the table, like

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<v Speaker 1>how much of this is real and how much and

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<v Speaker 1>if what if?

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<v Speaker 8>What if somebody actually found one of those And I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not trying to back up up the facade running you know,

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<v Speaker 8>baton tass, So I'm not trying to back up these

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<v Speaker 8>magicians of media today like blah blahs are and et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys might be.

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<v Speaker 8>Lying through their teeth, but I do think it should

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<v Speaker 8>be put on the table that some of these crafts

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<v Speaker 8>it did exist and may have been found.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I just want to I just want to say

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<v Speaker 7>something really quick to that two things. Really is that

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<v Speaker 7>the ethan that you were someone brought up Anki and Enlol.

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<v Speaker 7>There's one way to think of this is that anky

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<v Speaker 7>and enll explains sixty six percent of the news and

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<v Speaker 7>of the world in a way because that mythology, that

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<v Speaker 7>competition between competing god kings pretty much is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you could map it you into Cabala and look at

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<v Speaker 7>different sort of ways they interact, like the suffers interact,

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<v Speaker 7>like planets interact. And there's also an interesting thing to

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<v Speaker 7>go back to the trans plutonium is that Anki can

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<v Speaker 7>also be related to hoke Ma orquote unquote the Transplutonians,

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<v Speaker 7>so or excuse me, the trans and neptunity and not

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<v Speaker 7>the transplant Plutonian. Sorry about that trans Neptunian and so

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<v Speaker 7>uh nick or not Nick? Tim, There's something you said

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<v Speaker 7>that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree that they're described as vamanas as buying vehicles

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<v Speaker 7>chariots before the Sun and all that. In the later

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<v Speaker 7>sort of remix which are called the Piranhas, which occurred

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<v Speaker 7>from the first to the tenth century, the Vamanas became vahanas,

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<v Speaker 7>So the vahanas are actually animal mounts for the most part.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's kind of a terrestrializing meaning coming to Earth

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<v Speaker 7>of the celestial forces and then how they interact with us.

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<v Speaker 7>And of course the Piranhas also have a twilight context,

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<v Speaker 7>a contric context, meaning that they can be understood as

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<v Speaker 7>processes of consciousness, meaning they're just stories in order to

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<v Speaker 7>help us get there there rather than literal sort of

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<v Speaker 7>manifestations of what people saw in the material world.

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<v Speaker 8>There are, yeah, but there's blueprints and instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>On how to build the grafts.

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<v Speaker 8>Not only did they talk about the grass, they said

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<v Speaker 8>this is how you build one, and then they went

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<v Speaker 8>further to say, here's a picture of what it should

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<v Speaker 8>look like.

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<v Speaker 11>So there's multiple truths, right, happening at the same time,

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<v Speaker 11>and there's multiple obfuscations happening at the same time, right.

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<v Speaker 11>And we used to in the nineties when I was

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<v Speaker 11>showing you those movies and stuff. Back in the pre

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<v Speaker 11>nine eleven days in the eighties, we believed all these

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<v Speaker 11>institutions for the most part. Right now we all got

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<v Speaker 11>access to information, and so now it's up to us

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<v Speaker 11>to tease through what's real and what isn't based on

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<v Speaker 11>our own worldviews and our own perspectives, right, And so

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<v Speaker 11>it's like all the stuff you guys are adding to

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<v Speaker 11>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bunch of slides, so I'm when I

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<v Speaker 1>start moving through them.

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<v Speaker 11>I did want to say Tyro Uh is coming on

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<v Speaker 11>my show on the fourteenth Uh to give his presentation

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<v Speaker 11>on the on a Knaki If you're interested, It's at

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<v Speaker 11>Mike Dave's multiverse on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Good stuff, guys, good stuff. So these just some

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be quick. Some images. The one on

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<v Speaker 1>the left is artist's depiction.

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<v Speaker 11>I just want to say that most shit that comes

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<v Speaker 11>from NASA is some sort of artist depiction or computer

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<v Speaker 11>rendition right of data.

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<v Speaker 1>So just throwing that out there.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I said that one time, like somebody was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>going on about something else and they were like using

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<v Speaker 3>like NASA's images, and like all these people were so convinced,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Yo, did you ever notice in

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<v Speaker 3>the fine prints it always says this is CGI or

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<v Speaker 3>almost always yeah, and like the person was like flipping,

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<v Speaker 3>Like people started flipping out, and I'm like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not being a dick.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on the website and look at it, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being ready.

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<v Speaker 1>They were reading pictures of Mars for like forty years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Underneath the image it tells you this is bullshit. It's fake,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not real, it's not real.

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<v Speaker 11>That's a picture of Borisa from the Hubble. That's a

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<v Speaker 11>picture of Gemini from the Gemini North Telescope. That's a

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<v Speaker 11>picture of three I at lists from the Gemini North Telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>UHTA, get back over here.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, I want to talk about this quick. This is

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<v Speaker 11>what makes uh, This is what makes a muhamou a different.

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<v Speaker 11>It's rotational variability. Rotational variability is basically how the thing

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<v Speaker 11>rotates in space. One of the distinguishing features of a

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<v Speaker 11>muamo was that it was in a non principle axis

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<v Speaker 11>rotation or a complex tumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>It rotated every seven to eight hours. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>I need my next link. Nick.

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<v Speaker 11>We're going to take a look at artist's rendition of

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<v Speaker 11>a muamua wrote with it with a complex tumbling, which

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<v Speaker 11>is not typical for these types of objects.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, this is animation of.

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<v Speaker 13>Had.

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<v Speaker 9>One thing I don't think you mentioned was that it's

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<v Speaker 9>this the Atlas object is on the same plane as

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<v Speaker 9>the rest of the Solar system, right did you? Did

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<v Speaker 9>you mention?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm getting to that, but jumping You're good, You're good. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. You're good.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm it kind of and I'll explain that to the

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<v Speaker 11>best of my ability when we get there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just short. This is just kind of showing

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<v Speaker 1>what what this possibly could look like in its complex tumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it has a yeah, okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>does have some music, so.

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<v Speaker 11>It's kind of just spinning in a weird way through

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<v Speaker 11>space and a not it's not a very predictable way.

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<v Speaker 11>Still that's actually sped up if you're thinking about every

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know if it would it say six to

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<v Speaker 11>eight days or something like that, or was it hours?

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<v Speaker 11>I can't remember, but either way, it's going slow. But

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<v Speaker 11>it's just doing this complex tumbling thing. And Abby Lobe,

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<v Speaker 11>the guy who's starting on this speculation, is the one

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<v Speaker 11>who's saying that that's one of the reasons that made

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<v Speaker 11>it so strange.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to ask you.

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<v Speaker 11>Ask yourself, what do you think could cause a quote

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<v Speaker 11>unquote complex tumbling, something that could cause like a comment

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<v Speaker 11>to do that.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway, no reflection or some kind of some kind of

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<v Speaker 9>interaction with the sun seed or sun like, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Could be an interaction with the sun, could be an

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<v Speaker 11>interaction with anything any of the you know, one kilometer

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<v Speaker 11>large or bigger stuff in the orc cloud out and

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<v Speaker 11>in the asteroid belt.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, it isn't faith itself, but that's the long thing

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<v Speaker 9>that's not really supposed to be a dot common of

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<v Speaker 9>a thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, The cigar shaped thing isn't that common either.

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<v Speaker 11>But again, we're talking about interstellar objects here, and we've

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<v Speaker 11>only found three of them, so it's hard to say

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<v Speaker 11>what's rare and what's not. And we're talking when we

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<v Speaker 11>have a sample size of three, but they are comparing

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<v Speaker 11>them to comments, which we know of three thousand or so.

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<v Speaker 11>So just throwing that out there. So that's the rotational variability. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>Saturn's a big one. Thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind of Elijah.

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<v Speaker 11>Saturn affects every it's so massive, it affects everything.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Solar system in quite a significant way. So

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<v Speaker 1>does so does a Jupiter. So key similarities among these

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<v Speaker 1>things are.

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<v Speaker 2>Close your words.

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<v Speaker 13>Into the darkness, find the blazing star, Focus on it,

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<v Speaker 13>and it become the eclipse. Don't fear.

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<v Speaker 6>That the show will begin.

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<v Speaker 13>And death.

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<v Speaker 14>You the shop

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<v Speaker 13>M