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Speaker 1: Six point thirty fifty five krc DE talk station Happy
Speaker 1: Tuesday exta special because we get Ken Cober FOP President
Speaker 1: for the cincint Police Department six, chapter sixty nine. Ken Coober,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Morning Show.
Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Now this topic low or no bond for some pretty
Speaker 1: significant offenses. Do the police officers react to this? I mean,
Speaker 1: are there Do they get upset when someone's let out
Speaker 1: on un recognizance when they have been oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: arrested for carrying concealed weapons and properly handing a firearm,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Is this something that
Speaker 1: you know you sort of take personally?
Speaker 4: Oh, well, there's no doubt the frustration of having an
Speaker 4: armed encounter with a suspect and I wanted to find
Speaker 4: out that they get an O or bond is something
Speaker 4: that I constantly get calls out. And as we saw
Speaker 4: last week, as I started getting calls, I figured out
Speaker 4: real quick which judge was in room ay And it
Speaker 4: makes complete sense because we let everybody out. The reign
Speaker 4: of terror for Judge Silverstein has finally ended. She's not
Speaker 4: in ROUMAINEA this week?
Speaker 1: Oh this week? What of next week?
Speaker 4: Well, thank god, it's only about they do a rotation.
Speaker 4: So all the municipal court judges have to do a
Speaker 4: week at a time, so luckily we only have for
Speaker 4: about four times a year.
Speaker 1: Okay, but she's the biggest offender in terms of low
Speaker 1: or no bond and at least in terms of your
Speaker 1: perception of how the judges handle bond situations.
Speaker 4: By far, by far the worst. And you know, in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, Issue one was passed by the voters
Speaker 4: that said judges will consider public safety when issuing bail,
Speaker 4: and it's something she just refuses to do. And apparently
Speaker 4: she just snubs her nose to the voters of Ohio.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're not a lawyer, and I
Speaker 1: don't know what the procedures are, but it seems to
Speaker 1: me that someone might subject her to sort of an
Speaker 1: ethical review or a caller on the carpet for not
Speaker 1: paying attention to what the law requires. I know, this
Speaker 1: all enters in the realm of subjectivity. You're sitting on
Speaker 1: the bench and you've got to decide what the bond's
Speaker 1: going to be set in. But you know, look like
Speaker 1: for example, this Andrew Thomas person trafficking and drugs, multiple
Speaker 1: counts of trafficking drugs, possession of drugs, multiple counts, champering
Speaker 1: with evidence, vandalism. I mean all these during one particular
Speaker 1: incident that sounds like a person who is a threat
Speaker 1: to society.
Speaker 3: Without a doubt. I mean, we saw it last week.
Speaker 4: I mean there were people that were convicted falons for
Speaker 4: carrying guns, convicted of violent felonies, felonious assault, shootings, things
Speaker 4: like that, that get rearrested after having been convicted, only
Speaker 4: to get our bonds and released right back on to
Speaker 4: the community. It's something that's certainly creating a massive danger
Speaker 4: to the residents and the citizens the visitors of Hamilton County.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a recidiviust that's someone who did not learn a
Speaker 1: lesson from the criminal justice system, which is you commit crimes,
Speaker 1: you're gonna face some punishment. Clearly there wasn't enough punishment
Speaker 1: there and they aren't facing any repercussions, so there's no disincentive.
Speaker 1: Screw it, I'm gonna go back out and start dealing
Speaker 1: drugs again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt. I mean the most egregious one
Speaker 4: are one of the more egregious ones. I'll was an
Speaker 4: eighteen year old who was caught with a gun. He's
Speaker 4: not under disability because he had previously been convicted but
Speaker 4: now he's eighteen. He got an O R bond but
Speaker 4: was held on a parole holder, so they took him
Speaker 4: over to eight twenty four Broadway Juvenile Court to answer
Speaker 4: to this parole holder, only to be unhandcuffed, and then
Speaker 4: when he realized that he was going to be held,
Speaker 4: he escaped from a twenty four Broadway. Thankfully, Thankfully he
Speaker 4: was rearrested. But this is what's going on in Hamilton
Speaker 4: County with certain judges, and it's got to stop.
Speaker 1: We'll take the case of Frederick Weisch, released on his
Speaker 1: own recognizance. Count A carrying a concealed weapon County improperly
Speaker 1: handling firearms in a motor vehicle, count see having weapons
Speaker 1: while under disability count the failure to comply with an
Speaker 1: order or signal of the police officer so uncooperative on
Speaker 1: top of everything else. Out on his own recognizance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was another one I posted last week. A
Speaker 4: guy that's a convicted felon from federal gun and drug charges,
Speaker 4: did a federal sentence, got back out. He was another
Speaker 4: one that was stopped, ran from the police. He was drunk,
Speaker 4: head cocaine, had another gun. And we'll just give these
Speaker 4: people o our bonds.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're bringing this to the public's attention
Speaker 1: because obviously elections have consequences, and this was a bad consequence.
Speaker 1: Do you know when this judge is up for re election?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately not till twenty twenty nine. Oh no, because there
Speaker 4: are six year terms with the municipal court. And that's
Speaker 4: why I actually had posted on our social media page
Speaker 4: that it was the district that she has includes Anderson Township,
Speaker 4: New Town, Norwood in Fairfax. Those are the folks that
Speaker 4: are responsible for getting her into this office.
Speaker 1: Anderson Township. Hmm, that's rather interesting. Wonder what Andrew pappas
Speaker 1: former trustee has to say about that. Well, let's it's it.
Speaker 1: We're at a break, so let's bring you back and
Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit further conversation about this because
Speaker 1: it's frustrating. But it doesn't seem as though there's anything
Speaker 1: else we can do about it other than keep raising
Speaker 1: awareness about this. We'll see if there's opportunities for us
Speaker 1: to do this pause, we'll bring Ken Cober back FOP
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas here with FLP President Ken Couplets to say,
Speaker 1: Police Department, we're talking about the low or zero bond
Speaker 1: un recognizance bond and the problem seems to lie in
Speaker 1: the lap of Municipal Court Judge Samantha Silverstein, who we
Speaker 1: had a couple of demonstral illustrations of someone who should
Speaker 1: have had a much higher bond, absolutely representing a danger
Speaker 1: to society which they are required to consider and apparently
Speaker 1: she's not. Now is she defying or running against I
Speaker 1: guess fundamentally, are the prosecutors asking for a higher bond
Speaker 1: and she's just denying that? Or are has the change
Speaker 1: of the prosecutor's office under now Connie Pillage not pushing
Speaker 1: for higher bonds?
Speaker 4: No, I mean they're still asking for bonds. She's made
Speaker 4: up her mind and when she ran, she ran on
Speaker 4: being this social justice bail reform person. So it's no
Speaker 4: surprise that she's holding true to what she said that
Speaker 4: she was going to do. So you go in there
Speaker 4: in front of her in room ay and she'll say, well,
Speaker 4: how much money is it? How much money do you
Speaker 4: have to be able to get out today? And if
Speaker 4: you say I don't have any money, then she goes, well,
Speaker 4: we'll just give you no.
Speaker 3: Our bond, okay, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that represents social justice, my friend.
Speaker 1: This is someone who has committed a crime, and especially
Speaker 1: notably the recidivus, those who have already been before a
Speaker 1: judge and been convicted on crimes. They have demonstrably illustrated
Speaker 1: that they are criminals engaging in criminal behavior, and the
Speaker 1: justice system has any impact on them because they continue
Speaker 1: to do it. They represent a threat to the very
Speaker 1: community that she thinks she's serving through social justice.
Speaker 4: That's what your listeners have to understand. I'm not complaining
Speaker 4: about somebody that picks up a theft charge or ady,
Speaker 4: you know, not that those aren't you know, crimes, not
Speaker 4: that those aren't things that you should be putted for.
Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the people that are the worst
Speaker 4: of the worst, the people that are committing violent crimes
Speaker 4: over and over and over again. Those are the ones
Speaker 4: that need to be held and make them if they're
Speaker 4: going to make a bond, make them heave an investment. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that way we know they're going to come back
Speaker 4: to court. And that's just not being done.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: You know, under Prosecutor Melissa Powers, she rallied against this
Speaker 1: all the time. She was outspoken on the subject. She
Speaker 1: was reported in the paper she would post things on
Speaker 1: her Facebook social media showing these ridiculous low to no
Speaker 1: bond situations with very dangerous people. Does Connie Pilache have
Speaker 1: any say on this? Has she uttered a syllable about
Speaker 1: this what you and I perceive to be problem?
Speaker 3: I have not heard her say anything public about this.
Speaker 1: Well, I know she's busy protesting in front of Tesla Joe.
Speaker 1: I know that she's got more important things on her plate.
Speaker 1: I suppose, wow. I mean, other than just bringing this
Speaker 1: to our attention, is really is there anything we can
Speaker 1: do about it? If she's so defiant and refuses to
Speaker 1: follow Ohio law on this matter. I guess we're just
Speaker 1: kind of stuck, aren't we.
Speaker 4: Well, the only solution to this, if there really were
Speaker 4: to be a solution, it's kind of There's two options.
Speaker 4: One is for the public to file complaints with the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court, because that's ultimately who would hear these things?
Speaker 3: Are they going to do anything about it? It depends.
Speaker 4: I think it's likely, not just because judges are given
Speaker 4: a certain not a latitude. But the only true answer
Speaker 4: to able to get rid of this would be an
Speaker 4: attempt to have somebody you create a coalition and have
Speaker 4: her recalled. I know it's been done out West with
Speaker 4: mayors and other elected positions, but that's really the only
Speaker 4: recourse it would be to have her recalled.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds like an outstanding idea under the circumstances,
Speaker 1: Because these are not one off things. This same judge,
Speaker 1: time and time and time again does exactly what we're
Speaker 1: talking about here this morning, so we have a long
Speaker 1: record of it, and I think that might justify a
Speaker 1: recall petition. So maybe someone that the listening audience can
Speaker 1: spearhead that and we might get some justice and some
Speaker 1: safety for our communities, because clearly communities are in jeopardy
Speaker 1: when folks like this are let out without bond, without
Speaker 1: a stake in the action, and with no incentive to
Speaker 1: stop their criminal activities. Well, I wish it was better
Speaker 1: news from you today, but quite often we have to
Speaker 1: deliver the bad in order to bring about change, and
Speaker 1: you've done that for my listening audience today, Ken.
Speaker 3: Real quick here.
Speaker 1: I had a caller earlier moving over to that Evendale situation.
Speaker 1: I hate to put you on the spot, but under
Speaker 1: what circumstances would have been and I don't know if
Speaker 1: names were taken down, but one of my callers earlier
Speaker 1: this morning seemed to suggest that it would have been
Speaker 1: a good idea for the police to gather up names
Speaker 1: and identification to know who these people were. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe some evidence of a crime might pop up later.
Speaker 1: Someone had video footage as someone maybe hitting somebody on
Speaker 1: the head.
Speaker 2: Is can you do that.
Speaker 1: If you're not aware or have a reasonable, articulable suspicion
Speaker 1: of a crime or probable cause, are you still allowed
Speaker 1: to ask for and get someone's name and write it down.
Speaker 4: Well, you can ask, but they don't have to give
Speaker 4: it to you unless you're investigating a crime. And I
Speaker 4: know that this is a very heated topic.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: I don't blame them the things that going on that
Speaker 4: was absolutely ridiculous, but I do know that the police's
Speaker 4: main objective in that situation, especially when you're dealing with
Speaker 4: people that are armed, is to make sure no big
Speaker 4: get shot.
Speaker 3: Right, So their main objective.
Speaker 4: Is to make sure that the people that are causing
Speaker 4: this confrontation, as well as the people that are you know,
Speaker 4: highly charged about this and emotionally charged, and I get it,
Speaker 4: is to make sure that this ends peacefully.
Speaker 3: That's the main objective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he did acknowledge that and give you probs for,
Speaker 1: you know, de escalating. That was most the best result
Speaker 1: that could have happened that day under the circumstances. So
Speaker 1: I was just merely inquiring because I didn't I don't
Speaker 1: know one way or the other, under what circumstances you
Speaker 1: can get their names. You point out that they don't
Speaker 1: have to give it unless there's a crime being investigated.
Speaker 1: So maybe that you tried, not you specifically, maybe the
Speaker 1: police tried and we're denied. But there was no reporting
Speaker 1: one way or another on even whether that effort was
Speaker 1: engaged in, so we were just merely speculating about the circumstances.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you addressing it and clearing the air
Speaker 1: for for us. Ken Kober, keep up the great work
Speaker 1: and God bless us since aint police Department, you least
Speaker 1: have great support among my listening audience for the work
Speaker 1: that you were doing keeping communities safe and of course
Speaker 1: bringing this ridiculous bond situation to everyone's.
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