WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.679 You created everything. Look put a powerful being you are. 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.480 You did these things, but now you're in a human body. 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.080 You forget the power you have. 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.000 What you do is what the whole universe is doing 5 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.480 at the place you call here, and now you are 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.839 something the whole universe is doing, in the same way 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.079 that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing. 8 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:54.479 You're doing, You're doing what you imagination. Welcome to Mata Mysteries, 9 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:58.439 where you don't know what you don't know. My name's Jonathan, 10 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.799 I'm shown in. Today is going to be a fun show. 11 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:02.240 Sean. 12 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:05.400 We are getting into the orphic egg. I'm actually surprised 13 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:06.599 we haven't talked about this yet. 14 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.799 Well, I mean, I think you have mentioned it before, 15 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.480 but I know nothing about this thing. You know, you 16 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.439 look at it and it's like, okay, I think I 17 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:15.799 might have seen this thing before, you know, and just 18 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.519 in passing. But I'm really interested just to kind of 19 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.159 see the meaning and what it all holds. 20 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:25.439 Yeah, yeah, dude, it's actually deeply symbolic. And that's what 21 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:29.599 we're gonna be getting around today. This is like mystery 22 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.359 school shit. Just so everybody knows. And that's what I've 23 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.280 been We've been trying to do a lot more like 24 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:39.400 mystery school kind of things and understanding the ideology, understanding 25 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:44.439 the philosophy, understanding the gnostic understanding, and the deeper meaning 26 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:49.159 entrenched within literature and symbolism and stuff like that, and 27 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.519 really trying to become ourselves initiated. 28 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:55.159 You know, well, I think ultimately that's what it is. Really, 29 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.079 it's a story of us, you know, and if nothing else, 30 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.400 even though you know the meaning of certain things maybe 31 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:06.480 back then wasn't exactly accurate, it's still interesting to see 32 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.039 kind of where we've come from, and you know, the 33 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.199 certain things that were revered back in the day. 34 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:14.719 Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I just love these these 35 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:18.080 deeper realms of thought that people go into. Dude, imagine 36 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.039 like back in the day. And you know what, I 37 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.759 just had this thought recently. I was like, man, how 38 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.639 awesome would it have been to been like an ancient 39 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:29.000 like Greek philosopher or something like that, and that's just 40 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:31.680 what you do all day, you just philosophize. And I 41 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.520 was like, well, I mean, wait a second, that's that's 42 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.680 what you do. That's what we're doing right now. 43 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800 There are certain days, man, where I mean most days probably, 44 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:43.680 but there are certain days where I'll be at work 45 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:45.639 and you know, I'm doing my job, but a lot 46 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.560 of it doesn't take like a whole lot of my 47 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:50.280 my brain. You know, I can do it with my 48 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:52.879 eyes closed at this point. And so all day long, 49 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:54.800 that's all I want to think about, is to the 50 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:57.919 deeper shit. And when people want to have a conversation 51 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.879 about some stuff like football or whatever. Nothing against you know, 52 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.520 people that like football or anything like that, but I 53 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:05.960 like it seems like lately I only want to talk 54 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.159 about the deepest shit, the most meaningful stuff. You know, 55 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.319 as you said before we started recording that it's like 56 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:14.120 we're on the back night. It's time to really start 57 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:16.719 making some sense with some shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure, 58 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:17.479 And that's something. 59 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:19.680 And don't get me wrong, I love football too, But 60 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.039 ninety nine percent of my day, whenever I go into 61 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:26.520 deep thought, it is trying to crack the code of 62 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.560 what are we doing here? What is the meaning of 63 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.240 all this? And yeah, you know, uncovering a lot of 64 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:37.159 the ancient people like what they used to theorize and 65 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:41.319 philosophize and try and come to somewhat of an understanding. 66 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:46.439 And so today I thought, man, I was actually, I 67 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.080 was flipping through the pages of The Secret Teachings of 68 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.759 All Ages by Manly P. Hall, and you would, you know, so, 69 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:56.000 I mean just a regular day. And I was like, 70 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:59.319 because you know, we've we've when we first started the show, 71 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.639 we were we did a couple episodes on some of 72 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.479 the chapters in that book, and we got to like 73 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:08.560 a couple of them, we were like, I don't even 74 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:11.800 understand what that he's saying right now, you know. And 75 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:14.159 and I was like, I wonder if we can understand 76 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.439 it a little bit more nowadays. 77 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.240 I think I'm almost certain that we can at least 78 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:21.240 understand fifty percent more than we did when we tried. 79 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:22.439 Back in the day. For sure. 80 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:24.399 Yeah, I mean I think we did an okay job, 81 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.319 you know, up until the point that we got and 82 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.319 once we got to a certain point, it was like okay, 83 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.680 but we clearly just weren't ready yet. 84 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.879 Right right, and and and so I was flipping through 85 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.439 the pages and I was thinking, oh, that's cool. There's 86 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:42.160 one on like sacred minerals and other sacred geometry and 87 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.360 stuff like that. And then I saw something that was 88 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:47.839 the orphic egg, and I was like, I've seen this 89 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.759 symbol before. I've heard I've heard of it, I've read 90 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.680 about it, but I don't really know the deeply entrenched 91 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.560 symbolism because and for anybody doesn't know it is it 92 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:59.800 is an egg that has a snake wrapped around it. 93 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:05.199 You've you've seen that symbol before and probably many of 94 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:07.000 different ways, to be honest, you know. 95 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:08.240 Or even the staff. 96 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:10.279 I mean, I know this isn't the same symbol, but 97 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.480 the staff with the serpent wrapped around in it, there's 98 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.600 something really deeply entrench with that, the concept of this 99 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.879 serpent wrapping around something. But the orthic egg in general, 100 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:20.600 I mean, it's gonna be interesting. 101 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.680 Well, it's the I mean, that staff is the caduces, 102 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.079 and that's the medical caduces really and and so there's 103 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.959 always seems to be some kind of snake and I'm like, 104 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.399 you know, we've done I think we've touched on snake 105 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.319 symbolism and stuff like that. Today it's I think it's 106 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.160 going to bring it full circle as far as what 107 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:46.480 the snake could symbolize across all different snake symbolism, but 108 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:51.399 especially within the orphic egg snake symbolism as well. And it's, dude, 109 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.639 it's going to get you excited in your toonies. 110 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.560 Okay, all right, man, I'm filling the tingle already. 111 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.199 Take us there, man, all right, So imagine, before the 112 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:05.680 universe existed, there was silence, no stars, no planets, no light, 113 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.639 only darkness and infinite potential. Out of this void floated 114 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:13.000 a single shining egg, the container of all that ever 115 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.040 was and all that ever would be. When it cracked, 116 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:19.480 light burst forth, and creation itself was born. This is 117 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:22.240 the story of the orphic Egg, a symbol that has 118 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.279 traveled through time, mystery schools, and esoteric teachings to represent 119 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.720 not just the origin of the cosmos, but also also 120 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.879 the awakening of the soul within you. Today we'll dive 121 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.040 into this deep ancient mystery, the myths, the meanings, and 122 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.959 the mystical parallels hidden inside the shell of the cosmic egg. 123 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.040 All right, all right, you're excited for this. 124 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:44.279 Oh oh man, annoy you. 125 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.920 Okay, So before we do that, I want to show 126 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:53.360 the actual picture in the book. And I took a picture. 127 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:55.279 This is my own picture right here that I took 128 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.279 of the book of the Cosmic Egg, out of the 129 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.600 secret teaching and uh and it just says it right here, 130 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.199 And this is going to make you excited, all right. 131 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:08.680 The meaning of the orthic of the orphic egg according 132 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.480 to mainly p Hall and everything that he was able 133 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.839 to gather, all right, So the or the orphic egg, 134 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:18.680 it says, the ancient symbol of the orphic mysteries was 135 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:23.279 the serpent entwined egg, which signified cosmos as encircled by 136 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:26.959 the fiery creative spirit. The egg also represents the soul 137 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:29.680 of the philosopher. So the egg represents the soul of 138 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:36.360 the philosopher, right, okay, the serpent represents the mysteries. Hmmm, 139 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:37.759 isn't that interesting? 140 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:38.240 Right? 141 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.079 Okay, it says, at the time of initiation, the shell 142 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.639 is broken and man emerges from the embryotic state of 143 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.160 physical existence, wherein he had remained through the fetal period 144 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:55.800 of philosophic regeneration, selfic regeneration. All right, all right, this 145 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:00.839 is a like a reborn kind of situation going on here. 146 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.240 That essentially what they're saying here with this, at least, 147 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.519 what the orphix used to say is that until that 148 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.959 snake wraps itself so hard around the egg, that is you, 149 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.399 you are a child. Yeah, I mean not a literal, 150 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.120 you know, human child, but a child as far as 151 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:23.079 your understanding of the cosmos in existence in general, and 152 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:27.160 once that egg starts to crack, then what is born 153 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:31.279 is now you initiated on the other side, understanding the 154 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.480 mysteries to a greater extent. 155 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.240 Or could it be even not even just understanding it, 156 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.559 but just looking into it and really trying to figure 157 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:38.879 it out. 158 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:39.519 You know what I mean. 159 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:42.320 You're not within the egg stuck in your way, stuck 160 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.159 in how you think things are. 161 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:45.840 And then when it cracks and you come. 162 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.879 Out, now you're starting to really look into how things 163 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.000 really are, you know, yes, I mean just my interpretation 164 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:53.080 for example. 165 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:55.720 And and just to take this a little bit farther 166 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.799 as far as the here let me stop sharing now 167 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:02.840 real quick, as far as the uh what was it called? 168 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.879 The shit? Well, I just had a thought and I 169 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.639 totally lost it. Oh I'm sorry. Here we go, So 170 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.360 as far as the even like the Freemasons, for example, okay, okay, 171 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.080 so you have thirty three degrees of freemasonry, not all 172 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.759 not all forms of freemasonry. They have Scottish right, and 173 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.000 a bunch of different types or a bunch of different types, right, 174 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.039 But within the freemasonry that everybody is you know aware 175 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.919 of you have thirty three levels to it, right, and 176 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:32.519 that's why they say the highest you can go is 177 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.519 a thirty third to thirty third degree Mason. Well, the 178 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.159 symbolism of thirty three is interesting, right, because you got 179 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.559 thirty three vertebrate to the human spine. Jesus lived till 180 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:43.639 he was thirty three. 181 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.720 Or thirty four. That's kind of like of debate, I think, 182 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:47.919 But anyway. 183 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.200 Yeah, maybe thirty three point three or something, who knows. 184 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:55.120 But also what's going What happens at thirty three is 185 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:59.679 that ice melts to water at thirty three degrees? Yeah, right, 186 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:03.799 because it's a solid form at thirty two or up 187 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.679 to thirty two, and then the thirty third degree, you're 188 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.639 no longer frozen in time, You're no longer stuck in 189 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.279 that orfic egg. The egg starts to break, the ice 190 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:17.279 starts to break at that point, right, And so just symbolically, 191 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:22.320 thirty three is hugely symbolically, Yeah, hugely symbolically. It's big thing, 192 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:22.919 you know what I mean? 193 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:23.440 Interesting? 194 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.559 So all right, so I just wanted to show that 195 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.559 picture and also wanted to give a little shout out 196 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:33.360 to our boy Ronnie Pontiac. We we don't I believe 197 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:37.759 just a few days ago where we released a throwback 198 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.840 episode and we didn't want to, but you know, scheduling 199 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:42.840 and all that kind of stuff, and we were like, 200 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.799 all right, if it's going to be a throwback episode, 201 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.120 we gotta do the Ronnie Pontiac episode because that guy 202 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.120 was on something, especially being especially being the understudy of 203 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:55.600 Manly p Hall like nobody else in it something like 204 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.679 nobody else in history could ever say that. 205 00:10:58.120 --> 00:10:59.600 Right, you know what I mean. 206 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:02.039 I still can't even believe we got him on the show, 207 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:03.759 Like it's ridiculous. 208 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.120 Yeah, he was awesome and had great hair. 209 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:08.480 Oh yeah, amazing. 210 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:12.279 So so yeah, that's the orphic Egg. Now we're going 211 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:16.000 to get into a little bit more orphism ultimately, you 212 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.360 know where the orphic egg comes from. Orphism is a 213 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:25.279 mystical Greek tradition. So orphism was an esoteric religious movement 214 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.519 in ancient Greece, rooted in the teachings attributed to the 215 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:33.960 mythical poet Orpheus. Unlike the popular Olympian religion of zeus 216 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:37.919 Hera and the Rest, orphism was concerned with the soul's journey, 217 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:43.200 purification and the eventual return to the divine. It had initiations, 218 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:47.320 sacred hymns and secret cosmologies that weren't for the masses, 219 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:51.960 but for the seekers of hidden knowledge. Already, you're like, 220 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.399 all right, this is as mystery school as it gets right. 221 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:55.000 That's right. 222 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:55.200 Ye. 223 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:59.639 At the heart of orphic myth is a creation story 224 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.519 that does doesn't begin with chaos ruled by Gaya and 225 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:08.039 Urinus like Hesiod's theogeny, but with a primordial egg. This 226 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.919 is a striking departure from mainstream Greek thought. It immediately 227 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:17.480 sets orphism apart as a mystical current, mystical current emphasizing unity, 228 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:21.559 hidden potential in the divine emanation rather than brute force 229 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:25.559 and divine conquest. The orphic egg is in this sense 230 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.799 a teaching device. It doesn't just tell where we come from, 231 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.080 but where the soul is destined to return. Like the 232 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.679 mystery initiations themselves, the egg suggests a hidden truth waiting 233 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.080 to be cracked open by the initiate, its own spiritual awakening. 234 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:47.360 I just love stuff like this. It's awesome, dude. It 235 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.679 seems familiar though it do so. 236 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.960 Then we get to the birth of the cosmic egg. 237 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.080 The cosmic egg, the orphic egg, dude, there is ending 238 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:02.480 research for this episode. I was shocked at the amount 239 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:07.480 of egg symbolism all throughout history and and by the way, 240 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:10.320 the uh so, there's been like a lot of UFO 241 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:13.120 whistleblowers and stuff like that lately, right, and the most 242 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:17.320 recent one was Jake Barber who talked about dude, he 243 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:23.200 himself was the helicopter pilot that picked up a egg UFO. 244 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:24.960 Oh really, so we're. 245 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.360 Gonna be getting into a little bit of that too, 246 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.759 because could we be talking about the same thing. I 247 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:32.519 don't know. I'm just saying, maybe there's some symbolism there. 248 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:35.399 Any chance we get to talk about aliens, dude, I 249 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.440 know we don't even do it enough, but it's it's 250 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.679 really the one thing that got me into really trying 251 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:41.519 to look into. 252 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.879 What what else is out there? What's going on? You know? 253 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.000 And so yeah, we got to get into aliens a 254 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.279 little bit more, I think, yes. 255 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:55.039 So, according to orfic cosmogony, before the egg, there was Kronos, 256 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:59.360 which was time, and a nake, which is necessity. These 257 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:03.399 two eternal principles swirled in the darkness until from their 258 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.840 union a silver cosmic egg emerged. The egg itself floated 259 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:12.399 in chaos, a vessel of infinite potential. When it finally cracked, 260 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:17.120 light bursted forth, and from within emerged Fanes p H 261 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:18.840 A N E S. I don't know if that's how 262 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.639 you say it, but that's how it looks. Fanes, which 263 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.120 is the androgenists, radiant first born god. 264 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:31.919 Okay, okay, like the og, that's that's what it says. 265 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:36.759 Yeah, so not necessarily literal in that sense, but just 266 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.480 you know, we'll understand it a little bit more the 267 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:45.399 more we read. So, Fane's name means to bring light 268 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:50.279 or to reveal, which is interesting because I already know 269 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:51.759 what the Christians are going to be saying about that. 270 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:55.480 Oh he's androgenousts and he's a light bringer. 271 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:56.200 You mean. 272 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:02.120 The devil or Lucifer or Beel's abub, you know with 273 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.799 the uh with the two fingers up and the two 274 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.879 fingers down. Meanwhile, that dude, you know, the Bapha met, 275 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.360 the Bappha met that everybody's aware with, with the two 276 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.480 fingers up and two fingers down, with the you know, 277 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.279 the horns and the boobs and everything that wasn't even 278 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.879 created until the eighteen hundreds. Oh really, yeah, that's not Oh, 279 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:20.720 it's not real. 280 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:22.080 Oh okay. 281 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:26.519 People people are just like, see, that's it's Bapha met symbology. 282 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.559 I'm like, bro, the Bapha Met wasn't even like, yeah, 283 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:32.080 the Baha Met name had been talked about, but that 284 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:36.879 picture that you're referring to not even close. It's that 285 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.519 is that is a cult. That is a cult Baphomet. 286 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.240 That's not the same thing, right, So anyway, I know 287 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.000 that people are gonna fight me over that, but that's fine. 288 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.960 So anyway, Fane's name means to bring light or to reveal, 289 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.200 which I find just did not even go off topic again, 290 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:58.279 But I find it so fascinating how people are like, ooy, 291 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.960 he's going to be revealing. He's on a shed light 292 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:05.320 on something, He's going to illuminate. It's like, and that's 293 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.559 a bad thing you want you want to live in 294 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:15.600 not understanding, Like I'm sorry, Like me personally, I have 295 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:20.960 a thirst, Like I have such a thirst to understand 296 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.559 what we're doing here that I can't just be like 297 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.960 I'm blindly faithful, I will do as No, I can't 298 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.840 accept that, like if there is a way to try 299 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.480 and understand now, I mean we all of course, a 300 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:38.080 lot of this information it's just it's contemplation, That's all 301 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.759 it is. And which is you know, the it's it's 302 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:46.200 the belly of philosophy is contemplation, I would say. 303 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.600 Right, yeah, And I think the only real danger of 304 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.120 it if if at all you know is you can 305 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:53.879 you could probably spiral at some point. I'm sure the 306 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.200 mind is very powerful, you know, and so it could 307 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.600 take you to a place of you know, maybe you 308 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.080 feel like you're losing your mind because you're just constantly 309 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.079 absorbing more and more and you don't really know when 310 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:06.079 to stop the spinning, you know. 311 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.880 But I don't know. I'm right there with you, man. 312 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:10.920 I feel like if there's something that I don't know, 313 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.400 I want to know, and we come across a lot 314 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:16.279 of things that maybe we'll never know, but I still 315 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:17.839 can't help but ponder. 316 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:18.759 Yeah. 317 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:21.359 Well, and that's the thing is that I feel like 318 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.200 you can get lost in just about any realm of thought. Really. 319 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.839 Think about Pythagoras, he had a number cult. He was 320 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.720 just obsessed with numbers and a bunch of orgies and 321 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:35.599 crazy stuff. But there, and that's actually the Orphics were 322 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:37.960 actually heavy into orgies as well. But we're not going 323 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:41.799 to go there, right because I don't believe in throwing 324 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:43.839 the baby out with the bathwater. I think that there's 325 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.319 you know, there's a good information even in the darkest 326 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.039 corners of every back alley, you know what I mean. 327 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.519 But I just I don't know, let's keep going, because 328 00:17:54.599 --> 00:17:57.279 I just wanted to throw that out there, that people 329 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:59.640 are so quick to assume that something is demonic or 330 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:03.319 evil just whenever they see such terms as light bringer 331 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.640 or light bearer or knowledge bringer or Sophie. And meanwhile, 332 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:10.440 all these things are just trying to are just trying to, 333 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:14.960 you know, distill wisdom and understanding to you, and somehow 334 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:17.279 that's a bad thing. I just never understood that. 335 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.200 Ultimately, it's just something different, you know what I mean, 336 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.279 That's what that's really why it's bad, you know, in 337 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:23.960 their ice, I. 338 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.559 Think, right right, So, your boy Fanes his name meant 339 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:32.079 to bring light, or to reveal. He was crowned, winged, radiant, 340 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:35.400 and carried the scepter of authority. He was the ordering 341 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:40.160 principle of the cosmos, the divine light that transforms chaos 342 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.039 into creation. This story reflects a deep symbolic truth, before 343 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:48.160 any manifestation, before any thought, before any quote unquote you, 344 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.480 there is potential waiting to emerge. The breaking of the 345 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.039 egg is the birth of consciousness itself. It mirrors both 346 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.119 the creation of the universe and the spark of awareness 347 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.680 awakening with than the human being there. 348 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:02.000 It is. 349 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.119 Yep, that's evil though, you know that in all of them. 350 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:10.599 I'm sorry, I gotta dig sometimes I gotta dig. So 351 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:13.720 Fanes the first born, I hope I'm saying that right. 352 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:17.519 I'm sure I'm not. But Fanes is a fascinating figure, 353 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:21.640 often conflated with Eros, which is love, or even Dionysus 354 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:26.880 in later orphic traditions. Dionysus I believe was the wine god. 355 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.279 Oh I think so. We we haven't really touched on 356 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:31.880 too much Greek and stuff like. 357 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:34.599 That, we did. I have a hard time remembering all 358 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:35.920 of these entities, you know. 359 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.799 Yeah, I just know Dionysus because that's like, uh, for 360 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.759 Marti Gras. A lot of people have Dionysus floats and 361 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.240 Marti Gras you're getting drunk. So people know that one. 362 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.680 So like the wine or the liquor god or something. 363 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:53.720 So as the being who emerges from the cosmic egg, 364 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:59.039 Fanes represents the very first differentiation light from dark unity. 365 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.319 Into multiple implicity. Depictions of Fanes often show him surrounded 366 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.519 by the zodiac will, emphasizing his role as the ordering 367 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:12.039 force of time and cosmic harmony. His androgyny reflects unity 368 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:16.000 before division, a being who contains both masculine and feminine, 369 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:20.359 night and day, spirit and matter. Through Fanes, the gods 370 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:24.160 themselves are born. Zeus later swallows Fanes to absorb his 371 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:30.000 creative power, then recreates the world. Holy shit, that's crazy, right, 372 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.319 I never heard that before. That's my first time hearing 373 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.000 that one too. Yeah, So the message is clear. Fanes 374 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.680 is not just the light of creation, but the very 375 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:44.480 principle of divine intelligence that permeates all. Without him, nothing 376 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:48.119 could exist, and through him all things are revealed. So 377 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.319 you see, like through all of theology, there is always 378 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.319 a main creator being who nobody could ever be like, 379 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:01.720 and everything from him comes creation. This is a philosophical understanding. 380 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:07.960 Nobody believes that Zeus is a real god. Okay, I'm sure, 381 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.799 but even back in the Greek times, these were symbols, 382 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.000 and I believe the same thing goes for for Egypt. 383 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:19.720 I could be wrong, but I just believe that the Egyptians, 384 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:23.279 the Greeks everybody knew that these things were just representatives 385 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:28.960 to try and describe something not necessarily yeah, not necessarily 386 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.920 a physical being, like even the same within Hinduism. Like 387 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.839 these people I don't believe are like believing that Shiva 388 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.119 is an actual deity in the sky. You know, they 389 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.319 understand the symbolism behind what Shiva represents. 390 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.559 Right, rather more so just the creation and destruction of 391 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:51.559 of just this natural eternal world we seem to. 392 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:54.039 Be in, right, And you can, you know, you can 393 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:58.839 meditate upon the spirit or the essence of said deity 394 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:02.039 or whatever, right right, and you can even try and 395 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:05.359 connect with that spirit in a sense. But to say 396 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:09.160 that these were beings that walked on earth, do I 397 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:12.599 believe that literally Zeus plucked out his own eye in 398 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:17.359 order to have access to all the wisdom, which ultimately 399 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:20.960 led to him finding all the runes and stuff like that. No, 400 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.240 I really don't. But I love the symbolism behind it. 401 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:28.160 I love everything it is encoded into the story. People 402 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:33.240 get so like, people get so stuck in was this 403 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:36.720 real or is this mythical? Because if it's mythical, then 404 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:38.839 then I'm not going to listen to it. I'm like, No, 405 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.720 the myth is what you should be listening to to 406 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:43.480 try and understand what they're trying to say, because it's 407 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:45.039 encoded through story. 408 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.000 That is what myth is, right, And I think when 409 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:52.680 it comes to myth, you have to almost already believe 410 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.480 it in order to start really seeing it and feeling it, 411 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.720 you know what I mean, internally, And so that's when 412 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.400 it gets it's a little bit a little bit complicated. 413 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:04.440 Anything that you really look into and you really want 414 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.799 to believe it, you can really trick yourself into believing it, 415 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:08.319 for sure. 416 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:11.680 But even whenever you believe it, you know what you're 417 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:14.440 basically what's going on. And this is just my understanding. 418 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.960 I'm not the knowwherre of everything. Obviously, we are we are. 419 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.960 We will never confuse ourselves as teachers by any means. 420 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:24.039 You will forever be students due exactly. 421 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.960 Yeah, But I think that what is going on with 422 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.200 that is that it's it's all just meant to be 423 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:34.319 symbolic that even if you are somebody that believes without 424 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.480 a shadow of a doubt the literal interpretation of these things, 425 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.640 what that is doing is that that is speaking that 426 00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:47.480 knowledge and understanding and that vibration to every single one 427 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.519 of your cells, right, and every single one of your 428 00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.440 cells will now believe in Zeus, will now believe in Jesus, 429 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:57.039 will now believe in name your deity, mythras whatever. Right, 430 00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:01.599 And you're just trying to essentially innate with that frequency 431 00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.359 of that belief of that of that character. 432 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:04.880 Right. 433 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:09.160 Yes, yeah, so your mind thinks that it's absolutely real. 434 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:11.279 It must be real. Zeus is up there, he's throwing 435 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:14.440 down lightning bolts, right. Meanwhile, the rest of your body 436 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:16.759 doesn't really care if you're being literal or not. It 437 00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:19.240 believes it, so it's reacting with it in that sense, 438 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.759 I think, is what's going on. I love that explanation. Actually, 439 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.359 that was good. That was great, Thank you sir. And 440 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:27.720 I could be wrong. That's just my own understanding of it. 441 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.240 That being said, the egg as a symbol of unity. 442 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:34.759 The egg itself is one of the most ancient symbols 443 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:37.880 of unity and potential. Before it cracks, it holds everything 444 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.200 together in wholeness, the yolk, the white, and the shell. 445 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.799 It's a single container of multiplicity. This reflects the idea 446 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:50.440 of the ploroma or fullness that Gnostics later taught. So 447 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:54.119 that's like the the fullness of God was the pleroroma 448 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.839 before if you want to put a big bang spin 449 00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.440 to it or whatever. Before the Big Bang, that was 450 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:00.240 just the tiny. 451 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.359 Little adimation or whatever you want to call it. 452 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.119 Right, it's the whole egg, all of everything. 453 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:07.400 It condensed in. 454 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:11.039 Yeah, so that was that would be the pleroma the 455 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.920 Gnostics talked about, which would be the undivided totality of 456 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.000 divine before being fractured into matter. 457 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:21.200 Hmm, Okay, there we go. 458 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.960 So the cracking of the egg is not a tragedy, 459 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:28.759 but a necessary process of manifestation. To create the one 460 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:30.599 must become many. 461 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:32.160 God. 462 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:36.920 I love this stuff. It's like spiritually poetic. M you 463 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.759 know it do? So the egg, the orphic egg, therefore, 464 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.160 is not just a story of beginnings, but a timeless 465 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.880 truth that wholeness exists before fragmentation, and that every act 466 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.039 of creation is a breaking, a release of hidden potential 467 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.599 into the world. This applies to the cosmos, to human birth, 468 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:58.240 into every moment of spiritual realization. 469 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:03.920 M damn, let's go baby. It is deep. 470 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.799 So now there are cross cultural parallels as well. That 471 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:10.759 you know, the orphics weren't the only one that ever 472 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.839 talked about eggs. It appears all throughout history. Dude, yep, So, 473 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.519 the orphic egg isn't unique to Greece. Nearly every culture's 474 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:23.079 creation myths include a quote unquote cosmic egg. In Hinduism, 475 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:28.200 it's the Brahmanda, the egg of Brahma from which the 476 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:34.759 universe emerged. And Egyptian lure raw hatches from a primordial 477 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:39.079 egg laid in the waters of Noon or None. In China, 478 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.319 the universe was born from the cosmic egg that splits 479 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.240 to form heaven and Earth. The recurrence of this image 480 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.680 across cultures points to an archetypal truth embedded deep in 481 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.839 the human psyche. The egg is the most natural symbol 482 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.400 of life and rebirth to ancient peoples. It was the 483 00:26:55.480 --> 00:27:00.200 clearest metaphor for how life emerges from hidden potential. This 484 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:05.160 university out, this universality. Damn, I can't say that word universality. 485 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:09.880 There we go. This universality also shows that the orphic 486 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.559 egg isn't just Greek, but part of a global spiritual memory, 487 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:17.680 a symbol humanity it instinctively reaches for when trying to 488 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:21.200 describe the indescribable moment when nothing became something. 489 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.000 Mm hmm, so I've been I've been thinking about this 490 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.119 a lot as far as a beginning or if there 491 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:31.000 even was a beginning, And I'm really leaning and I 492 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.640 think you've mentioned it before, but I am kind of 493 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.640 leaning towards the fact that it just kind of always 494 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:42.400 has been, you know, like just this infinite regress if 495 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:42.799 you will. 496 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:48.000 Yeah, I agree, And and I don't mean that, you know, 497 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.240 whenever I say that in my own in my own mind, 498 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.799 because I was thinking about this earlier today too, I don't. 499 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.640 I don't know if that necessarily if the word trying 500 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:01.559 to describe physicality, you know, the physical world, because they 501 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:07.039 say that the physical material world is actually emerging from consciousness, 502 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.799 not the other way around. So that means that consciousness 503 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.839 came before anything material, anything physical, right, And this is 504 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:18.079 something that scientists are actually really getting behind nowadays, that 505 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.559 the physical world emerges from consciousness. There isn't And this 506 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.759 is backwards compared to what most people think. Yep, they 507 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:31.799 think that because of physical material reality, consciousness comes secondary. 508 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.799 You know, It's like the first there was the dumb caveman, 509 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.759 and now there's the intelligent scholar. Right, But that's not 510 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:43.759 necessarily exactly how it is. Consciousness wasn't something that that 511 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:49.559 just like evolved over time. It's that it's always been there, 512 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.000 and as a matter of fact, it was there before 513 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.160 even physical reality itself. So if you look at it 514 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.920 from that angle, you can clearly see that before any 515 00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.240 physical reality, it was all just consciousness. If it was 516 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.559 all just consciousness, some people might say that that's just God, 517 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:07.799 right right. 518 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:09.200 I actually kind of get down with that. 519 00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.519 If we are to talk about a God, I would 520 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.960 say that's probably that's probably it for me, you know, 521 00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:19.240 because I feel like it does transcend everything, and especially 522 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.799 if it was here before, if there was a before 523 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.759 physicality at all. I feel like, you know, consciousness was 524 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.519 there before everything, you know, and it transcends. I feel 525 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:35.920 like it's something that no matter what you know, dimension 526 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:40.160 you know, or what level you're at, consciousness is consistent 527 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.599 throughout Yeah. 528 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.440 I mean well, and especially like through a lot of religion, 529 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.240 they'll say that God has always existed. There was never 530 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.200 a beginning or an end to God, right, And we've 531 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:56.680 talked about that, but that God essentially not only created 532 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.039 the world, but created us. And I don't know so 533 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:07.680 if that's true, because if if material out material material 534 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.359 world and the physical world is emergent from consciousness, then 535 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.680 that means that our consciousness was created. If it was, 536 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.960 unless it just always was, that our consciousness had to 537 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.640 have been created before material reality. It had to have been. 538 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.599 There is no other way, right, I. 539 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.200 Mean, I think I think either way you look at it, 540 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.119 then it's still kind of in a sense, kicking the 541 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.359 can down the road, you know what I mean, Like 542 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.960 we don't have a full understanding of everything, and maybe 543 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.519 we never will, just based on how long we live 544 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.960 and how you know, how far research can really get. 545 00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:47.559 But I feel like since we don't know how everything started, 546 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.160 if it actually had a start, we would say, oh, 547 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.559 it was God or now here we are saying it's consciousness, 548 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.720 which I could just get down with more because it's 549 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:58.119 just I don't know. 550 00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.160 I guess I just like that better know. 551 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.119 But either way, I think it's still just kind of 552 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.559 something to put into that place of we just don't know. 553 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.599 Yeah, I mean, I agree, I would much rather say 554 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.920 consciousness or the spirit in general rather than just saying God, 555 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:19.440 because it's like, I don't know, it seems too convoluted really. 556 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.799 So anyhow, that being said, we're going to get into 557 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.359 the next part, which is the egg in alchemy. So 558 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.480 let's get into some alchemy. See where it goes there. So, 559 00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:35.880 in Western esoteric tradition, the orphic egg was adopted into 560 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.519 alchemy as the philosophical egg. See what I'm saying, Like, 561 00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:43.400 there's eggs everywhere, so the philosophical egg. This was both 562 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:48.319 literal and symbolic. Alchemists often performed their experiments in sealed 563 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.960 vessels called eggs, within which transformation occurred, but the deeper 564 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.720 meaning was spiritual. The egg became the vessel of inner transformation, 565 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.000 the alchemist's own soul, sealed with meta within meditation and 566 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.720 discipline until the inner light could be hatched. The cracking 567 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.559 of the egg was the rebirth of the self into 568 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.440 divine consciousness. Here, the orphic egg moves from cosmogony to psychology. 569 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.720 It becomes a tool not just for understanding the universe, 570 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:20.640 but for transmuting the inner world of the initiate, cracking 571 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:25.000 open their limited self and releasing the radiant being within. 572 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:27.000 The limited itself. 573 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.240 I like that It's true, isn't it though? 574 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.359 Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. 575 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.759 I mean, if you are afraid to look into certain 576 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:39.599 things that might change are not changed, but kind of 577 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.079 crack you know what you already understand or what you 578 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.720 undoubtedly know to be true. It's like, you know what 579 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.400 I mean, I think that's that's what we're talking about here. 580 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.000 Hey, dude, you gotta crack a couple eggs to make 581 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:52.920 an omelet. 582 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:54.640 You know what I mean? Dude? Oh yeah, for sure. 583 00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.160 So there's also a Gnostic connection with this as well. 584 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.039 So the Gnostics viewed the orphic egg as a parallel 585 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:04.400 to their own myths of the pleroma and the fall 586 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:10.119 of Sophia and Gnostic cosmology. The divine realm is wholeness, 587 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.160 the descent, and to matter is the fracturing, the cracking 588 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.279 of the egg into multiplicity. But just as the cosmic 589 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.799 egg contained the divine spark, Gnostics believe that each human 590 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.839 being contains a piece of the divine trapped within the 591 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.480 shell of the body. The goal of nosis is to 592 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.640 quote unquote hatch, to break free of the shell of 593 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.440 ignorance and awaken into the fullness of the divine source. 594 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:34.920 The orphic egg, in a sense, is a symbol of 595 00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.839 the human condition, the divine spark hidden within flesh, waiting 596 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:40.200 to break open and shine. 597 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:42.599 Hmm, that's cool. 598 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.000 The Gnostics were always on some shit. 599 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.400 Yeah. It always had a good way of putting shit, 600 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:48.759 you know. 601 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.799 Yeah, just taking a story and looking at it from 602 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.720 you know, the what did it mean, instead of taking 603 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:56.680 it literal, you. 604 00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:58.279 Know, yeah, And I mean, if you wanted to take 605 00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.240 it literal, I mean, you could also look at the 606 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.920 fact that, like we all start in an egg, you know, 607 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.039 and and that's where we are, within the womb, and 608 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.280 then we come out and now we're alive, and we 609 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.400 see the light, you know, we're here now, and so 610 00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:15.079 that's when the universe started for us, you know. 611 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.800 Yeah, and I think that it probably started with that 612 00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.159 same light, you know. So, for example, they say that 613 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.840 at the moment of conception, meaning the time that the 614 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.079 sperm first you know, goes into the egg, right, that 615 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.760 there is a burst of light, all right, And maybe 616 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.119 that's the soul, maybe that's consciousness. I don't know what 617 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.440 the hell it is, but it has to it. It's interesting, 618 00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:43.400 if nothing less, it's deeply symbolic, if you know, even 619 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.880 just from looking at it from a philosophical point of view, 620 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.280 that as soon as the sperm meets it meets the egg, 621 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.679 that there's that burst of light. And what this is 622 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:56.920 saying is that you are then born again, once you 623 00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:01.320 are initiated into the into the esoteric myies. Right, and 624 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.639 so as you're you know, you're that sperm and you 625 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:09.280 go into that egg, right, and now you're there's a union, right, well, 626 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.239 that union, you know. It's it's interesting because it says 627 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:15.679 that what's. 628 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:16.719 His name was? 629 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.719 Oh shit, what was the name of that god? 630 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:20.159 Uh? 631 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.920 Fans fins so fine. It says that he was androgynists, 632 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.840 meaning that he did he was he was both male 633 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.199 and female. Yeah, well up until the point, so you 634 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.719 have the sperm going into the egg, I think it 635 00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.039 takes a little while to determine if it's gonna be 636 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:35.679 a boy or girl. It's not instant, right. 637 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.199 Oh yeah, I'm actually not sure. I think I've heard 638 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:38.960 something about that. 639 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:42.079 Yeah, I don't know exactly in what stage you know, 640 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.840 it's already determined. But I want to say, I don't know. 641 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.199 I thought I I thought I heard that it was 642 00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.800 like already like as soon as it happens, it's already 643 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.280 like determined that or or maybe what I heard was 644 00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.719 is that it's determined from from the male, you know 645 00:35:57.760 --> 00:35:58.159 what I mean. 646 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.079 Yeah, I don't know what. Yeah, I'm not sure. 647 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.719 Yeah, I mean, yeah, that would be something interesting to 648 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.119 look into. But and I could be wrong. I'm just 649 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.320 I don't know, but anyway, all right, let's get back 650 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.159 to it. So then, uh so we went from we 651 00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:14.199 went the Gnostic route and now we're going to go 652 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:20.079 into the egg in Christian mysticism. So maybe maybe it's 653 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:24.000 uh Rosicrucianism mm hm, which I would love to look 654 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.280 into the rosicrutions a little bit more in the future 655 00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:29.320 because they're definitely on some ship too. 656 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:30.280 Oh real quick. 657 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.639 I just looked it up and and the the sex 658 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.559 of the fetus is determined at the moment of fertilization 659 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.079 when the sperm cell. Uh So, as soon as it's 660 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.360 fertilized is when it's already determined. 661 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:41.880 Wow. 662 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.440 Yeah, so the sperm doesn't know if it's going to 663 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.719 be a boy or a girl until it fertilizes the egg. 664 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:53.239 It's like it's the potential of of both. I guess oh. 665 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.360 Wait, yeah, I tell doesn't Yeah, isn't it the woman 666 00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.000 that that that determines the sex? 667 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.480 Though? See I always thought it was I thought I 668 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.280 heard it was the male, but you know, I'm not sure. 669 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:08.400 But yeah, but right at fertilization is when it's already determined. 670 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.320 Interesting. Wow, okay, so all right, getting back over to it. 671 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.000 The egg and Christian mysticism. Christianity two adopted the egg 672 00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.400 as a symbol, most famously with Easter eggs. The egg 673 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.920 became a symbol of resurrection, new life, and the empty womb. 674 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.280 While this is usually presented as folklore, it's actually a 675 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:33.280 deep mystical continuity with orphic and cosmic egg traditions. The 676 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.920 cracking of the egg parallels the cracking of the tomb, 677 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:41.320 which seems sealed and lifeless suddenly and life suddenly burst 678 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.679 forth with life, with light and life. 679 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:44.119 Sorry. 680 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.760 So Christ becomes a kind of Feign's figure, the radiant 681 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:52.360 firstborn of the dead, who brings divine order and resurrection 682 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.639 into the cosmos. Here we see that even traditions that 683 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.159 claim to reject pagan myths ended up reusing their symbols, 684 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.519 often on consciously. The orphic egg and the Easter egg 685 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.840 are two sides of the same spiritual truth. Life bursts 686 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:10.239 forth from death and unity emerges from hiddenness. 687 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.599 And the cycle continues it do it do so? 688 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.079 Then there's the psychological and the Youngian. Carl Jung interpretations. 689 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:26.199 So Carl Jung and later psychologists interpreted the cosmic egg 690 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.840 as a symbol of the self, the wholeness of the 691 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:34.519 psyche before fragmentation and dreams and myths. Eggs often symbolize 692 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.800 latent potential or the process of individuation, which would be 693 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.599 the hatching of the true self. From this view, the 694 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.440 orphic egg isn't just a story of the universe, but 695 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.440 a map of the human journey. Each of us carries 696 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.880 an egg within the potential self that must crack through 697 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.800 the shell of the ego to emerge as radiant consciousness. Psychologically, 698 00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:01.000 the egg is the mystery of becoming. It represents growth, transformation, 699 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.559 and the necessary cracking of the old in order for 700 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.719 the new to be born. Every spiritual awakening is, in essence, 701 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.000 the cracking of the orphic egg within. 702 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.880 That's that's pretty fucking awesome, man. I could really resonate 703 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:15.800 with it, you know. 704 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.320 Dude, anybody that's ever had like a surely, if you're 705 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.440 listening to this episode, you've had like a spiritual awakening 706 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.400 of sorts, right. And because I'm not gonna lie to you, dude, 707 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.960 I used to be a full on NPC. I could 708 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.679 not have cared less about this stuff whenever I was 709 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.679 like twenty four to twenty five years old. You know, 710 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.280 it wasn't until that there was that little thing that 711 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.000 cracked me open a little bit, you know, like that 712 00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.639 first thing that maybe go what the fuck was it? 713 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:48.719 What is that, you know, sending you on your endless search? Yeah? 714 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.760 Yeah, And and I think that everybody has probably had 715 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.760 a time like that. Maybe it happened through synchronicities. Maybe 716 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.400 it happened through you know, maybe you got visited by 717 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.480 an alien or you know, an god or an angel 718 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.559 or Jesus or some kind of deity you know, spoke 719 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.960 to you in your dream, or maybe you experienced something 720 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.679 crazy in meditation, maybe you did way too much DMD, 721 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:12.360 you know, something like that. 722 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.400 You know, it's I mean, it might not even just 723 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.159 be something mystical like that. It could be just something 724 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.440 in your physical world that just didn't line up, you know, 725 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.320 and you thought something was one way and oh shit, 726 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:26.840 you know, so it's like, all right, so now what 727 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.159 else do I not know that I thought I knew. 728 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.559 You know, Yeah, And that was the thing for me. 729 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.840 It started with conspiracies, which is why I have the 730 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.760 cult of conspiracy, because I was just obsessed with wrecking 731 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.519 the paradigm of this reality that I thought was true, right, 732 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.800 because I was like, if this is wrong, what else 733 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:50.239 is right? And I got obsessed with learning about every conspiracy. 734 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.800 I just wanted to keep on breaking that egg. Every 735 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:55.559 single episode was my entire goal. It still is my goal. 736 00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:00.519 And then it became all right, the egg is the 737 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.320 egg is smashed to pieces, right like, there's no more egg. 738 00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:08.000 It is fully exactly I have. I have formed a 739 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.760 union with consciousness itself now and and now I need 740 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.079 to go deeper, which is how Metamisteries. 741 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.920 Was created, right right, Well, yeah, you're starting to fractal 742 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.480 at this point, now, you know what I mean? 743 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:24.320 Yeah yeah, so uh speaking of fractal, the egg as 744 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.960 a symbol of death and rebirth, So the egg is 745 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.039 not only birth but also death. The cracking of the 746 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.719 show represents the destruction of a container, the loss of 747 00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.639 a wholeness that can never be regained, but in that 748 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.760 breaking new life emerges. This dual symbolism makes the orphic 749 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:46.719 egg a perfect emblem for the Mystery Schools. Initiates had 750 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:51.400 to end quotes die before they die, undergo symbolic death 751 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:55.199 and ritual in order to be reborn to a higher consciousness. 752 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.960 The egg as both tomb and womb, embodies this paradox. 753 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.880 Wow, that was Yeah, that's pretty spot on, man. 754 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.719 When you when you do finally crack through that very 755 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.840 thin by the way, it's a very thin shell, you know, 756 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:13.360 the the shell of anega is super thin, so it 757 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.239 doesn't take much. It's a small little thing that that 758 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:19.400 kind of bursts you through the veil if you will. 759 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.719 Yeah, dude, And it's perfect. It actually like it almost 760 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:25.119 represents the veil itself. 761 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.519 That's that's it, you know, exactly what I was thinking. 762 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.519 And I thought that it was interesting too, because it 763 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.920 said that that the cracking of the show represents the 764 00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.400 destruction of a container. But then you hear, like, you know, 765 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:40.760 a few years ago whenever Bob Lazar went on to 766 00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.719 Joe Rogan Show, and he goes, yeah, I was looking 767 00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.800 into some files, and you know, I you know, I 768 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.960 visited Sector four or S four and you know, Element 769 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:54.000 one whatever, seventeen eighteen whatever it was, and but and 770 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.480 and all that was very interesting. But the most interesting 771 00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.199 aspect about everything of what he was saying was that 772 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.559 the government, whoever believes that they are in contact with 773 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:10.159 something up above some aliens I don't know, but those 774 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.400 aliens or those higher consciousness beings or whatever the fuck 775 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:20.400 is outside of humanity called us containers, which is interesting 776 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:26.800 because if we're containers and that container can be cracked 777 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:31.760 like a shell, then that's pretty deeply symbolic with the orphica. 778 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:32.880 I get that point, right. 779 00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:35.000 Yeah, what all we containing? You know? 780 00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.760 I mean I've heard people say like, oh, soul containers, 781 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.599 you know, but I don't know. 782 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.000 I don't, I don't. I really don't know. 783 00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.880 I would say that as you know what, I don't 784 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.320 even necessarily know if I even like to use the 785 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:54.119 word soul, because it's more religious based, right, And that's why, dude, 786 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:55.599 I just like calling it consciousness. 787 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:55.880 Bro. 788 00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:02.920 Like, I think that that is the least like religious 789 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.480 type of way. I don't not that I have anything 790 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.239 super against religion. It's just it's too organized. It doesn't 791 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.199 allow you to think outside the box. You can't question anything, 792 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.639 and if you act outside of those lines, then there 793 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.559 are repercussions. I don't believe in that. I believe that, yes, 794 00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:24.239 we are containers, but symbolically we can crack out from 795 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:28.320 this container. Symbolically, you know, the chicken eventually gets out 796 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.119 of the egg, you know, And I think that that's 797 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:37.000 what represents, you know, conscious awakening would be that that 798 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.760 initiation of sorts, that that initial cracking of the egg 799 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.559 to allow the soul to emerge or the spirit to emerge, 800 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:49.400 the consciousness to emerge. Because you think about it, most 801 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.920 people are not very conscious all day, right, and the 802 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:56.199 goal is to be present. Meanwhile, most people aren't, and 803 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.960 it takes practice. It's not something that like, oh, I'm present, 804 00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.760 you know, my consciousness is now expanded. It's like, no, 805 00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:07.639 You've got to remind yourself to stay present. Like that's 806 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.760 how like like fleeing it or fleeting it is, right. 807 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:14.280 Yeah, but I feel like too, it can also be exhausting. 808 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.199 Like I've had days, dude, where I just feel like 809 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.360 I'm like constantly in that just that higher state of awareness, 810 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.880 you know, and it's just like that could be exhausting too. 811 00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.079 Oh So sometimes I think it is. It's good to 812 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:31.199 what do they call blue pill, you know or whatever 813 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:33.599 and kind of just enjoy some shit. And you know, 814 00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.360 you don't always have to, you know, but sometimes man, 815 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:38.519 I mean it's nice though, when you are in that 816 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:41.159 state and you're just like really kind of trying to 817 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.159 decode every little molecule and like, you know what I mean, 818 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.079 trying to figure it out. 819 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.639 Oh yeah, And that's the thing. I think that that 820 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.000 egg is is always there as somewhat of a protective 821 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.519 fallback option, you know what I'm saying. I don't know 822 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.280 if we ever fully you know, emerge from the egg itself, 823 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.360 just as long as there's a few cracks and a 824 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.079 couple of holes for us to be able to peek 825 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.679 out and know that there's still something out there. I 826 00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:09.719 think that's plenty really, oh absolutely so. So yeah, I 827 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.559 thought that it was funny how it said the egg 828 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:16.760 as both tomb and womb, embodies this paradox. So every ending, 829 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.920 every death, is also a beginning. This the orphic egg, 830 00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.920 reminds us that destruction is never final. It is the 831 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:29.079 cracking that makes illumination possible. Which is interesting they say 832 00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.039 that too, because every every ending is also a beginning. 833 00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:36.440 This is actually very representative throughout numerology as well, and 834 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:39.800 it's the same thing even within tarot cards, right, like, ye, 835 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.559 the ten is all it's it's always the number ten 836 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:52.119 always represents the end of a journey. But then numerologically, 837 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.679 ten breaks down to one, which is the beginning all 838 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.000 over again. So it's the end in the beginning within 839 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:04.760 ten itself. Yeah, the constant cycle of the journey man. Yes, yeah, 840 00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.239 we are so. And that's what they say God is. 841 00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:10.480 They say that if God was a number, he would 842 00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.639 be the number ten, because he would be the end 843 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.079 in the beginning, the you know, the alpha and the omega, right, 844 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.159 it makes sense at that point, and. 845 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.599 Then would even with just one more. 846 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.960 That's what Aleister Crowley said too, as Yeah, Alistair Crowley 847 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.400 actually said that he believed and this is somebody who 848 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.280 literally he wanted to he wanted to be known as 849 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:37.320 the most evil man to ever exist, right, and he 850 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:41.079 said that eleven is the most evil number ever created. 851 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.760 Really because it was basically saying that, like, I'm God 852 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:46.800 plus one more. 853 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.800 That's that's where he would know about that. 854 00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.159 Yeah, that's why whenever you said that, I was like, 855 00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.760 hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute, but all 856 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:57.559 my synchronosities are eleven eleven. 857 00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.599 Oh shit, damn path already damn. 858 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:08.480 So that's funny for yeah, well it's funny because now 859 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:11.880 we get into the eleventh segment of this. 860 00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.400 Of this episode, right. 861 00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.360 Which is the egg and modern science. So interestingly, the 862 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:24.440 orphic egg can be seen as a metaphor for modern cosmology. 863 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:28.880 The Big Bang describes the universe as having once been 864 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:34.280 compressed into a singularity, an infinitely dense point that cracked 865 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:39.199 open into expansion. The cosmic egg therefore foreshadows scientific insight 866 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.360 by thousands of years. Ancient mystics intuited that all things 867 00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.519 must emerge from unity, from a contained potential. The moment 868 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.320 of cracking reflects both myth and physics, as the universe 869 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:55.400 expanding into time and space. This doesn't mean orphism predicted 870 00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.760 modern science, but it shows how myth and science often 871 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:03.639 circle the same mystery, using different languages, one poetic, one mathematical, 872 00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:05.559 but both pointing to the same truth. 873 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:09.119 And they're both trying to figure out the same fucking thing. Dude, dude, 874 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:09.599 And I like. 875 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.039 How, I like how you know, because I guess I 876 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.079 used to think as far as like when it whenever 877 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:15.679 it came to the Big Bang, that there was like 878 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.480 there was nothing and then all of a sudden everything 879 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:20.679 kind of came out of that. But that's not even 880 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.679 what it's saying. It's saying that it's it was all 881 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:25.920 everything that is was still in this one thing, and 882 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:28.840 so there was never a nothing, because you can't have 883 00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:30.480 nothing exactly. 884 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.400 Yeah, that everything was all contained in the into the 885 00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:38.599 pinpoint of something something right, which, yeah, and that actually 886 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.559 perfectly parallels what we're gonna be talking about today. We're 887 00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:44.599 moving forward as far as the UFOs as well. Oh right, 888 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.840 So now we're going to get into the UFOs of 889 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.480 the symbology of the egg shaped craft that people have 890 00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:55.880 been talking about literally for over one hundred years and 891 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.559 the newest one. As I said about Jake Barber and 892 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:00.320 were actually got a clip that we're gonna show of 893 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:06.119 him describing what he felt during the experience of not 894 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:10.039 only with the egg shaped craft, but something else that 895 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:15.400 he called the basically an octagon or an eight gone 896 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.119 He called it an eight gone craft, but that would 897 00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:19.639 just be an octagon. I don't know why I say 898 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:23.719 it that way. But so, but before we do, we're 899 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:29.400 going to get into how does this egg tie into 900 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.039 you know, the egg shape UFOs. So there are symbolic parallels. 901 00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:38.199 So the cosmic egg in orphism is a vessel of creation. 902 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.559 It carries life, light, and divine potential across the void 903 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.840 already right there sounds UFO right, UFO is so. The 904 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.000 egg shaped UFOs and modern sightings are described as smooth, glowing, 905 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.199 self contained vessels that seem to bend space, time and 906 00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:01.159 physics around them. Both are containers of mystery, representing wholeness 907 00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:04.760 and the idea of hidden life within. It's no wonder. 908 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:10.159 Experiencers often describe them as alive, womb like and consciousness field, 909 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:14.320 consciousness filled, rather than just mechanical ships. 910 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:19.920 Right m hm, biological almost just yeah yeah, life itself right. 911 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:24.920 And then there's the womb of transformation. So in esoteric thought, 912 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.360 the egg isn't just about beginnings. It's about initiation. You 913 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.679 go into the egg, undergo transformation, and come out reborn. 914 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:37.239 Many UFO abductees describe the inside of the craft as sterile, white, 915 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.679 womb like or egg shaped rooms where they undergo procedures 916 00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.760 or visionary downloads. That imagery is nearly identical to the 917 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.920 orphic egg's role as the place of death, rebirth, transformation, 918 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.480 So in that sense, egg shaped UFOs may symbolically or 919 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:59.440 literally act as cosmic wombs, vessels through which consciousness is 920 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:02.760 altered or end quotes hatched into a new state. 921 00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:05.320 Reb dude, that's kind up. Man. 922 00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.320 You know, I'm down. I just want to see what 923 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.440 that's about. Even if it's a praying mantis, I don't care. 924 00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.519 I mean, I won't see what that's like at this point, dude, 925 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:14.519 let's do it. 926 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.400 I'm willing to take a I'm willing to take a 927 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.119 probe up. He asked to see what's going on here. 928 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.480 You know, they're professionals about it, I mean at this point. Yeah, 929 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.440 I don't think they're gonna be messing around. They're probably 930 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:24.440 doing it for a reason. 931 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.159 You know, oh yeah, with purpose, of course. 932 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.480 I mean, I'll just say this to the mantis is 933 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.159 out there, if you're just looking for a stool sample, 934 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.840 you don't need to hike you know, your your antennas 935 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.679 or whatever up my butt. Okay, I can just I 936 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:38.599 can just ship for you. 937 00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:43.320 I can just do that a cup whatever, you know. Yeah. 938 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.199 Yeah. Instead they're like treating us like puppies where they 939 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.559 get the little the little fecal sample with the with 940 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:49.599 the needle looking thing. 941 00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.320 Yeah get yeah, I'm. 942 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.400 Like, calm down, all right, I'm not into that. So anyhow, 943 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.360 the uh, the vehicles of of gods. This is interesting. 944 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:05.000 So in Hindu mythology the cosmic egg, which we talked 945 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:10.039 about earlier, Bramanda gave birth to Brahma, but also later 946 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:16.679 became associated with vimanas, which means flying crafts of the gods. 947 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:22.119 So if fanes is the radiant light emerging from the egg, 948 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.159 then UFOs could be modern manifestations of that archetype containers 949 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.280 carrying luminous beings of intelligence. So the Gnostics would say, 950 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.880 perhaps what we call UFOs are arconic or divine emissaries 951 00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.119 that descend in egg shaped vessels, because the egg is 952 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:43.440 the archetype of the cosmic transport, the Universal blue the 953 00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:47.800 universal blueprint for carrying life and light across realms. 954 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:53.079 Wow, dude, these things have been seen for forever, you. 955 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.159 Know what I mean, Because it was one point where 956 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.320 I was thinking, like, well, you know, maybe just the 957 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.519 thought of aliens and UFOs was kind of of, uh, 958 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:04.320 eventually just evolved, you know. But I mean, like Nick 959 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.480 was saying, like explaining all the cave paintings of you know, 960 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.760 seemingly UFOs or orbs flying in the sky, It's like 961 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:15.000 this is just something that's natural. It's been and one 962 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:19.039 of the most ancient paintings of Jesus I'm gonna try 963 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:20.519 and see if I can find it later on. Yeah, 964 00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.320 I know, it's when you're talking about but it literally 965 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:26.400 has an egg shaped fucking UFO that is flying in 966 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:28.760 the sky behind Jesus's head. 967 00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.280 Yeah, you're And it's not even like you could U. 968 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.639 Get confused with that in an angel or a depiction 969 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.440 of an angel that's not at all how they were depicted, 970 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.119 you know, And so this is clearly something else. 971 00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:42.239 Yeah. 972 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.679 I think it's like deliberate too. It's just like right there. 973 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.599 Oh, they're not even trying to hide it at that point. 974 00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:53.400 So and and also could it be a So when 975 00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.800 we're talking about the egg crafts, could it be consciousness technology? 976 00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.800 So the orphic egg would be equal to the cosmos 977 00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:07.119 itself contained before expansion. UFOs often appear egg like, seamless 978 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:11.280 with no visible engines, suggesting a technology based on consciousness 979 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:16.320 and unity, not mechanics and fragmentation, which is interesting because 980 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:22.000 anybody that's ever people have described what it was like 981 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.719 to like fly a ufhone That sounds kind of crazy, right, 982 00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:29.360 but even personally myself, I remember whenever I had my 983 00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:33.159 very first past life regression, and I had never heard 984 00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:35.800 of anything like this before I actually thought at the end, 985 00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.440 I was like, man, is that kind of silly that 986 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.079 I had in an experience like that? But basically, in 987 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.800 that first past life regression that I had, I stumbled 988 00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.440 across like these blue and red crystals or green and 989 00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:50.679 red crystals rather right, and I found that they had 990 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.599 some sort of healing mechanism to them. So I built like, 991 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.679 for a lack of a better word, a pokey center 992 00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.119 where you take your pokemon and you haal them in there, right, 993 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.000 That's what it reminded me of. And then we got 994 00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.519 attacked by these pirates or something like that, and we 995 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.599 had to find a land to where we wouldn't be 996 00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.480 attacked again. So I ended up building out of those 997 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:16.679 crystals like a fucking spacecraft, right, And instead of there 998 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:21.599 being a wheel or buttons or anything, I remember saying, oh, yeah, 999 00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:25.360 it goes and it stops whenever I tell it to, 1000 00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:31.159 essentially connecting, not even saying anything telepathically connected to this craft. 1001 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:31.400 Right. 1002 00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.920 I had never heard anything like that before then. I 1003 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:38.000 mean I had only just gotten into looking into aliens 1004 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.280 and stuff like that. I never heard of these crazy stories. 1005 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.559 But then you hear so many other people and their 1006 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.960 experiences of maybe going on to the craft or having 1007 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.599 another past life regression, or maybe it was some psychedelic 1008 00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:54.639 experience or something like that, where they are having the 1009 00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.320 experience of almost being one with the vessel that they're 1010 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.360 part of. And you look at the egg and it 1011 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.119 doesn't seem to be like something that would be built 1012 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.440 like a spaceship, you know what I'm saying. It it's 1013 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:14.199 almost a live itself And if it's alive itself, that 1014 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:17.719 almost just reminds you of like Avatar and the dragons 1015 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.199 and the horses and all that shit, right to where 1016 00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.400 you're just connected to them consciously and your brains are 1017 00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:26.119 singing together where you don't need to say, yeah, let's go. 1018 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:28.199 It's like, as soon as you have that thought, hyeah, 1019 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.159 you're going, you know, yes. 1020 00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:34.199 And that's perfect because that's exactly the the one frame 1021 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.239 of thought really that puts me into the understanding of 1022 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.920 the whole consciousness consciousness. 1023 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:40.039 Thing in general. 1024 00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.719 You know what I mean that that is the the 1025 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.800 one natural force that's under everything, you know, every every 1026 00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:49.599 experience that people have had, you know, I mean I 1027 00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:51.480 can't speak for everybody, of course, you know, but I 1028 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:55.440 feel like everybody that's had an experience with aliens or 1029 00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.000 I mean even Nick, he literally communicates with him with 1030 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:03.119 his consciousness, and your consciousness and your vibration and everything 1031 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:05.320 has a lot to do with what you're able to 1032 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.400 see and experience. And so it's like this this back 1033 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.920 and forth, uh communication of sorts, dude, you know, and 1034 00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:13.760 it's natural, seemingly. 1035 00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.880 Well, And I'm like, and what's also interesting about it 1036 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:21.360 is that whenever that egg does crack right and you realize, 1037 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.639 oh my god, I'm not this body, I'm actually something 1038 00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:27.079 even greater. I'm actually the consciousness. Now, if you look 1039 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.760 at it from that angle, from that higher self perspective, 1040 00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:33.920 you are communicating telepathically with your body. 1041 00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:34.719 Mm hmm. 1042 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:36.360 Do you see what I'm. 1043 00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:38.800 Saying though, Like, it's like you're and you're able to 1044 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:44.280 dip into the the unlimited potential because you're not Jonathan. 1045 00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:44.920 You are. 1046 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.039 You are capable of meaning whatever the. 1047 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.400 Fuck exactly what I mean. I mean, it's all there. 1048 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:55.239 This human body is like you know, Avatar connecting its 1049 00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:57.920 tail to the dragon or whatever or the seahorse or 1050 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:00.480 whatever the fuck it was, you know, connected to It's like, 1051 00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.599 you know, whenever you're able to separate you from what 1052 00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:08.320 you thought was yourself. Now there are two entities, and 1053 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.760 you can control the lower physical one right at that point, 1054 00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:16.360 and so now you're not necessarily succumbing to you know, 1055 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.239 the material reality of everything that a human wants to 1056 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.719 do anymore, because now you control that human. That human 1057 00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:26.000 is in your control, and you're guiding the human at 1058 00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:27.280 that point, and. 1059 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.880 All everything that you thought you were was the substance 1060 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.960 within the shell, you know, like the ego driven like 1061 00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:36.199 this is what I know to. 1062 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:37.679 Be me, and then that cracks. 1063 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:46.840 Yeah, and now you're just connected to what's outside of that. 1064 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.159 Man, It's just like, yeah, whenever you discover that you 1065 00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:54.519 are the essence of life itself, that you're not strictly 1066 00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:57.840 contained to this container, this vessel, but you're just in 1067 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.679 control of this vessel. That's that's like the that is 1068 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.880 the cracking of the egg. That's great, man, I feel 1069 01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:11.159 like we just really got deep right there. Sometimes we 1070 01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:15.679 do that, you know, philosophical and this beach. So therefore, 1071 01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.320 the egg shape may be the most efficient. All check 1072 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.880 this out. So the egg shape may be the most 1073 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:27.159 efficient geometric vessel for containing and projecting energy resonating with 1074 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.639 the idea of the holographic womb of reality. 1075 01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:31.360 MM. 1076 01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:38.480 So there is a fascinating tie with with the cosmic egg, 1077 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:43.679 the orphic egg, and the the the alien egg shape 1078 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:47.480 UFO that in ancient myth the egg is the vessel 1079 01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:50.760 of divine light, and in modern ufo lore the egg 1080 01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.840 is the vessel of other worldly intelligence. So I was like, 1081 01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:59.960 all right, how many times has there been uh documented 1082 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:04.719 ufo egg shaped craft in the world? How many times 1083 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.960 has it been documented? Turns out it has been documented 1084 01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.280 at least nine times. 1085 01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:11.679 Nine times. 1086 01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:15.199 At least nine times have people had an experience with 1087 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.039 an egg ufo craft. 1088 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:18.800 I thought would be way more than that. 1089 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.400 These are just the ones that are documented. Oh okay, okay, 1090 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.800 So it's you know a lot of times they go undocumented, 1091 01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.119 I'm sure, but these are the ones that are written down, 1092 01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:32.639 talked about, and you know, like deeply described. So the 1093 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:37.239 first one actually happened in when was it? There were 1094 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:41.519 actually two in three, I'm sorry, in nineteen fifty seven, 1095 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:45.000 three in the same year. In nineteen fifty seven. One 1096 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:48.639 was in Texas, the next one was in Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1097 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.199 And so those could have been the same thing. They're 1098 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.880 right next to each other. But then what gets interesting 1099 01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:57.960 is that you have you know, the south United States, 1100 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.800 the southwest United States, and then it dips down to 1101 01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:05.559 Brazil and also in nineteen fifty seven or it came 1102 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.119 up from Brazil either way the. 1103 01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:08.440 Same okay, same year. 1104 01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:10.679 I don't know if it's the same craft, but all 1105 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:15.519 three were in the same year. Interesting, so it's one 1106 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:20.960 of them was in Leveland, Texas. So it says multiple 1107 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:25.400 witnesses reported a brilliantly lit egg shaped object, some up 1108 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:28.760 to one hundred feet long, sitting on the road, causing 1109 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:32.280 their vehicles to stall out before flying off and restoring 1110 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.599 engine function. It's one of the most compelling mass sighting 1111 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:36.960 cases on record. 1112 01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:41.639 Wow, can you imagine seeing something like that in fifty seven? 1113 01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.719 You know, I mean everybody's driving carbureted cars and shit, 1114 01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:48.199 and like you're lucky if it started for you in 1115 01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:51.599 the morning and then you just see this brilliantly lit 1116 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.280 egg shaped thing in the middle of the road, Like 1117 01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:56.119 that would be a trip, dude. 1118 01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:58.920 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to see. Was this around 1119 01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.119 the same time of Betty and Barney Hill. This was 1120 01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:02.840 actually before Betty and Barney. 1121 01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:05.000 Hill, Okay, because they were like in the sixties, right 1122 01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:08.639 in sixty one. Yeah, okay, okay, so this was four 1123 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:13.960 years before Betty and Barney Hill, which was pretty interesting. So, yeah, 1124 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:17.159 that was the Texas case in nineteen fifty seven. The 1125 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.800 next one you have the Kirtland AFB sighting in Albuquerque, 1126 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.679 New Mexico, in nineteen fifty seven. It says civil aeronautic 1127 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:31.119 controllers observed a vertically elongated egg shaped object fifteen to 1128 01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:34.280 twenty feet tall. Oh so the other one was one 1129 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.679 hundred feet long. It didn't say how tall. This one 1130 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.000 says fifteen to twenty feet tall. Do didn't say how long, 1131 01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:42.159 But anyway, it was an egg shaped object with a 1132 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.920 single light at its base, hovering over the runway. Later 1133 01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:49.280 tracked on radar, following aircraft before vanishing. 1134 01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:51.159 Oh so it was. 1135 01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.400 And that's that's what's crazy about this. These are either 1136 01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:58.199 mass sightings or government sightings, so that's why they're so 1137 01:03:58.360 --> 01:03:59.599 documented in that sense. 1138 01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:00.920 Yeah. 1139 01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.079 So, and the technology that we had, at least to 1140 01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:06.480 our knowledge, was not anything of that. 1141 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:09.880 Well, and that's the thing is that it follows aircraft 1142 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:16.320 before vanishing. So this still tracks with my understanding as 1143 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.599 far as all these things go. Personally, I believe that 1144 01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:25.599 every single UFO, every single real UFO story mean physically 1145 01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:29.840 real physical, Yeah, we'll get We'll say physical, every single 1146 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.199 end quotes physical because I believe that they can probably 1147 01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:37.840 dematerialize or vanish somehow. They all seem like they are 1148 01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:43.679 traveling interdimensionally, that they're not necessarily coming from billions of 1149 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.639 light years away in this physical reality. Could it be 1150 01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.079 And I'm not saying that it's impossible. I think it's 1151 01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:53.360 just more and most likely that they are interdimensionally traveling 1152 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.079 to where maybe they're not coming from, you know, Star 1153 01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.280 System eight hundred and sixty nine, you know, four billion 1154 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:04.559 light years away. Could they just be traveling from not 1155 01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:09.119 another where, but another win as Stephen Greer says, And 1156 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.239 could they just be traveling from I don't know, six 1157 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:17.360 dimensional Earth reality and then lowering their frequency to be 1158 01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:20.039 able to show up in the third dimension where we 1159 01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:20.519 see right. 1160 01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:23.320 Yeah, I mean that just makes the most sense, you know, 1161 01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:25.400 if you want to go into the physics of it, 1162 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.800 it just doesn't make sense that they could travel that far, 1163 01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:30.360 you know, and get here. 1164 01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.400 But because to our perception, that's what it looks like. 1165 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:37.480 It definitely looks like they're just kind of fading into 1166 01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:40.480 our perception, you know, not like arriving. 1167 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.880 Yeah, and even even physics can't explain it. And that's 1168 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:46.719 why it's having such a hard time with all this 1169 01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:50.880 UFO stuff because, for example, even I believe they said 1170 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.039 the tic tac UFO that was back in like two 1171 01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.559 thousand and three or something like that, just four they. 1172 01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:59.719 Said, Kevin, watch a UFO documentary without seeing that black 1173 01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:01.280 and white footage exactly. 1174 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.880 They say even that one was traveling at like mock eighty, 1175 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:11.119 so the fastest that a human has ever gone in 1176 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.599 like a fighter jet. Right, it's like mock nine. 1177 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:16.960 Right, So just moving. 1178 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.960 That you're hauling, Dude, you are going faster than the 1179 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.559 speed of sound. Oh yeah, oh yeah, these are what 1180 01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.199 ten times faster right at minimum? 1181 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:31.159 Wow, it's like this sound even do at that point, 1182 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:34.519 you know. But if they're not even actually moving through 1183 01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:37.880 outur physical space, then then air and all that has 1184 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:40.639 nothing to do with it. So there are no bounds 1185 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:41.639 to how fast it can go. 1186 01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:45.280 I'm sure, right, And I mean they are there. There 1187 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:50.639 seems to be no you know, like they seem to 1188 01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:54.400 be operating within like zero gravity as well, so there's 1189 01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.360 no propulsion propulsion. That was the word I was looking for. 1190 01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.719 I couldn't think about that, I thought, but yeah, there's 1191 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.000 no repulsion there. There seems to be like no heat 1192 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.239 signature even coming off of them. 1193 01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:08.199 Fascinating, dude, it's so fun to look into that kind 1194 01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:08.639 of stuff. 1195 01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:12.280 Man, Like, I'm sorry, I can't look at that, and 1196 01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:16.880 I can't look at that and say probably nothing. All 1197 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.039 there is is life, death, than taxes, you know what 1198 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:21.519 I mean. It's like, no, there's way more than that. 1199 01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.519 So yeah, that was the Albuquerque one. The next one 1200 01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:28.400 was the Brazil. I don't know which order these ones 1201 01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:32.519 came in, but the the Brazil one is the uh 1202 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:39.559 Antonio Villis Boaz abduction. So Antonio described a hovering craft 1203 01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.199 roughly circular or egg shaped, with a red light and 1204 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:47.360 a dome that landed in a field after his tractor stalled. 1205 01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:50.760 He fled on foot, and he later reported being abducted. 1206 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.760 M See, this is. 1207 01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.639 When it when it comes to the abductions, you know, 1208 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.599 because I don't know when I started think about that, 1209 01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:02.960 I'm like, how are you how. 1210 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:03.920 Is that even possible? 1211 01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:09.039 How can you be abducted by a something that's immaterial 1212 01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:11.440 in a sense at least to us. It would have 1213 01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:14.519 to be right, well, because if they're able to move 1214 01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:19.760 from through through air, through I don't know numbers of 1215 01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.640 galaxies to get to us, seemingly bending space and time 1216 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:25.520 around them, you know, and then they just kind of 1217 01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:31.159 materialize because they're now in our dimension, Like, how do 1218 01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.039 they then interact with anything physical? 1219 01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:34.960 You know? 1220 01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.680 I can understand you know, electronics fucking up and shit 1221 01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:41.760 like that, like I can. My imagination will definitely allowed 1222 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:46.000 me to go there, But physically taking somebody like that 1223 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:47.399 I'm interested in. 1224 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:47.680 Well. 1225 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.720 And there's many, many, many different reports of missing time, 1226 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:53.199 and Chris Bledsoe is one of the main ones, right, 1227 01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:57.000 And because I mean he thought that time, you know, 1228 01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:58.960 he thought that he was only gone for fifteen minutes 1229 01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.439 whenever he was abducted, abducted in those woods fifteen. 1230 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:03.239 Twenty went looking for him, so he was. 1231 01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:07.359 Gone, dude, They was gone for hours, right, And there 1232 01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:10.800 were what four or five other people that were there 1233 01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.960 with him, including his son, you know, and he goes, yeah, 1234 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:15.920 I thought that I was only gone fifteen twenty minutes. 1235 01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:18.960 Turns out he was gone for hours, So there was 1236 01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:23.760 some kind of sense of abduction and time not acting 1237 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.720 linearly as he remembered it or he had his mind 1238 01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:31.079 erased or something. But I'm still trying to get him 1239 01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:32.600 on the damn show. He is a busy man. 1240 01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:34.600 Yeah, you know, it happens. 1241 01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:36.600 I read the book though. I highly recommend everybody go 1242 01:09:36.600 --> 01:09:37.960 out and read a UFO of God. 1243 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:42.479 Yeah, super fascinating. His son too, though, was missing right, 1244 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.199 like he also had missing time along with him. His 1245 01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.119 son was No, he was just like stabilized in one location. 1246 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.560 He was frozen frozen yeah, okay, yeah, and they couldn't 1247 01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:58.159 find him either, right, No, they couldn't him, right, Nope, 1248 01:09:58.159 --> 01:09:58.640 not at all. 1249 01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.800 Cloaking technology maybe you know who knows. 1250 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:07.039 I think that they're they're I think they can just 1251 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:08.720 fucking like pause time, bro. 1252 01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.239 I mean, if they can bend space and time, I'm 1253 01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.800 sure they can bend the environment around an individual and 1254 01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:17.640 make it appear that they are not even there. 1255 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.560 You know. Yeah, that's that's easy. Shit. 1256 01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:24.960 I mean, they're they're existing in another dimension, like without 1257 01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:28.239 physical without physicality, you know what I'm saying. It's like, 1258 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:33.880 what is time to a non corporeal being? Right exactly, dude. 1259 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.359 So it's just crazy. But anyway, the next one, so 1260 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:40.439 you had the three and fifty seven. Then you had 1261 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.479 the next one. These are all egg shaped crafts. Was 1262 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:48.640 called the Socorro with Lonnie Zamora in New Mexico. A 1263 01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:50.760 lot of shit going on in New Mexico. This was 1264 01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:53.279 in nineteen sixty four. And this is a police officer. 1265 01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:59.000 So police officer Lonnie Zamora investigated a strange craft and 1266 01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:03.279 described it as egg shaped, shimmering, metallic, and hovering close 1267 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.720 to the ground before ascending with roaring flames and leaving 1268 01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.199 scorch marks and landing depressions behind. That's different. 1269 01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:10.960 This is different. 1270 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:13.680 Yeah, so this case remains one of the most well 1271 01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:17.680 documented and unexplained UFO incidents in the United States. 1272 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:20.239 Hmm, yeah, I don't know. 1273 01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:22.920 Whenever it comes to the more physical ones, you know 1274 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:27.039 that leave some sort of evidence behind or or you know, 1275 01:11:27.279 --> 01:11:30.920 propulsion and things of that nature, I'm like, I don't know. 1276 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:32.760 That's when I start to think like some government shit 1277 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.600 and like there's just some weird shit going on, you know, 1278 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:37.000 and the government's fucking with people. 1279 01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:40.000 I don't know. But yeah, I don't know. I have 1280 01:11:40.039 --> 01:11:40.479 no idea. 1281 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.239 Yeah, I'm with you on that. That one seems like 1282 01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.880 if if we're trying to find, like, you know, one 1283 01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:49.600 of these things is not like the other, like. 1284 01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:51.640 It's that one. Yeah. 1285 01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:54.920 Yeah, So let's go to the next one, which was 1286 01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:56.840 I'm trying to do these in order, because they're not 1287 01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.800 in order. The next one was Area fifty one. Okay, 1288 01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:04.159 Area fifty one whistleblow or claim. So this is in 1289 01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:07.560 the nineteen eighties. A former contractor claimed that a metallic 1290 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:11.279 egg shaped UFO roughly the size of an suv, was 1291 01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:15.000 kept at a secretive facility known as Area fifty one 1292 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:19.359 in the nineteen eighties. Yeah, all right, well doesn't describe 1293 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:21.239 how it was taken off or anything. What do you 1294 01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:23.920 think about Area fifty one. 1295 01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.359 You know, to be honest, like if you would have 1296 01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:28.319 asked me this two years ago, before we even started 1297 01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.520 this show, before when I was only just in the 1298 01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:34.439 understanding that, like, yeah, of course there has to be aliens, 1299 01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:34.680 you know. 1300 01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:35.319 I used to. 1301 01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:38.479 Think that they were more of the physical and not 1302 01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:42.239 that they aren't within their own reality, within their own reality. 1303 01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:46.399 I'm sure they interact maybe physically, you know, but I 1304 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:50.319 feel like it's all the more physical things are kind 1305 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:53.119 of just government shit, you know, Like I feel like 1306 01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.359 if an alien can get over here and make it 1307 01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:59.199 over to us from wherever the fuck they came from 1308 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:01.319 or when ever they came from. 1309 01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:02.840 I feel like they wouldn't. 1310 01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:05.760 Be captured, you know, I just don't feel it just 1311 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.760 doesn't make sense to me that there would be actual 1312 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.159 physical UFOs, if. 1313 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.119 That makes sense, unless they want it to be. 1314 01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:17.720 Yeah, but what's the point in that, you know, What's 1315 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.279 just to leave something for us to go, Oh, there's 1316 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:23.399 more to this. This isn't just the third dimension. There's 1317 01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:26.880 more going on, and we'll just leave you this little breadcrumb, 1318 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.319 you know, Like I That's what I pondered when it 1319 01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:29.840 comes to that. 1320 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.039 I mean, then you read The American Cosmic by Diane 1321 01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:36.800 and Pasalka, and she talked about how she went out 1322 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.000 in the desert of New Mexico, I think also, and 1323 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.079 she was able to find this metal shit that was 1324 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.119 in the ground, and she called it meta material where 1325 01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:47.199 it was solid before she held it, and then as 1326 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.920 soon as she held it it melted right, and then 1327 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:51.720 as soon as she would place it down, it would 1328 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:52.560 solidify again. 1329 01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:54.680 It would like reform or reshape, right. 1330 01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.159 And she says that those things are not remnants that 1331 01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:01.399 are left behind accidentally. She them she believes that they're 1332 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:04.840 gifts from, like other worlds and other beings. 1333 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess if they if they were 1334 01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.680 to leave something behind, I feel like it, you know, 1335 01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:12.800 it would be intentional only to get us to maybe 1336 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:16.439 evolve or to to help us along technologically, I guess. 1337 01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:19.119 But other than that, as far as like what they 1338 01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:22.640 got going on in area fifty one, I don't know, 1339 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:24.560 Like the whole guy, the one you were bringing up 1340 01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:28.079 earlier was a bob Blazaar. Yeah, you know, I I'd 1341 01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:30.640 have to think about that even further because I feel 1342 01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.079 like I don't know. I know either, I don't. I 1343 01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:37.520 don't take it all like as truth. You know, it 1344 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:40.560 comes to exactly like it's interesting, Don't get me wrong, 1345 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:43.359 it's very fascinating the things that he says and how 1346 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:45.520 his story you know, doesn't change it. And you know, 1347 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:47.079 we can go on and on. But I feel like 1348 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:51.960 there's something, there's something that we just aren't seeing and 1349 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:56.039 and I just don't take it at full face value. 1350 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:56.800 Which is the right way to look at it, I think. 1351 01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.920 Yeah, But like to go back to your original question, 1352 01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:04.159 as far as like I two years ago, I would 1353 01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:06.520 have been like, of course, of course there's physical crafts, 1354 01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:07.119 they can. 1355 01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:08.039 Figure out how to get here. 1356 01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:10.840 But now I'm just of the mindset that it's all 1357 01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:15.359 consciousness based and anything else is it is not it, 1358 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:17.800 you know what I mean. Yeah, as far as that 1359 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.239 meda material, I don't know. I don't know either. I 1360 01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:21.640 just brought it up because I was like, I. 1361 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:24.439 Want to see it, I want to hold it, you know, 1362 01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:26.840 but I'm not make of it. 1363 01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:29.760 So which one was that? 1364 01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:30.159 Again? 1365 01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:35.239 That was the New Mexico incident. The next Oh no, 1366 01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:37.399 I'm sorry, Yeah, that was also New Mexico, but that 1367 01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:41.600 was Area fifty one. After that one, you had the 1368 01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.840 nineteen eighty three incident in Indiana Somerset, Indiana, where it 1369 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.840 says a witness, Debbie Jordan Cobble, I think it's how 1370 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:54.159 you say your name, observed a UFO roughly eight to 1371 01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:57.680 ten feet tall, egg shaped during an unsettling experience in 1372 01:15:57.720 --> 01:15:58.680 the woods. 1373 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:04.119 They're getting smaller, seemed to be the new models, the aerodynamic. 1374 01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:08.479 The one after that was in nineteen eighty eight in 1375 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:13.159 South Australia, so it says a family traveling across the 1376 01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:17.479 Nuller bar plane reported seeing a UFO that looked like 1377 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:21.359 a big glowing ball, like an egg like an egg 1378 01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:28.239 in an egg cup. Interesting, and then finally, well not finally, 1379 01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.479 we have one more before we get to Jake Barber. 1380 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:34.800 But in nineteen ninety eight, oh god, this is in Mexico. 1381 01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:38.039 It says a man and his children witnessed an oval 1382 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.640 egg like object silently hovering in the sky about four 1383 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:46.840 hundred and fifty meters away during a nighttime incident. These 1384 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.520 are just observations at that point, and then we're gonna 1385 01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:51.279 get to the main one, the main one that we 1386 01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:54.640 wanted to talk about, which is Air Force pilot Jake Barber. 1387 01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:57.800 He's this is the most recent whistleblowerclaimed. This was earlier. 1388 01:16:57.880 --> 01:16:59.960 I believe he came out in January of this year. 1389 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:05.720 Oh so, it says recently a Air Force, a US 1390 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:09.239 Air Force veteran alleged seeing a non human egg shaped 1391 01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:13.279 craft with no engine or thermal signature while working on 1392 01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:17.359 a UFO retrieval program. His claims are being investigated by 1393 01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:21.800 the Pentagon currently. And these reports spanned continents and decades, 1394 01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:25.079 weaving a strange but persistent narrative of the egg shape, 1395 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:28.560 UFO and modern lore. Whether symbolic or physical, these shapes 1396 01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:32.159 seem to echo ancient archetypes like the orphic egg morphing 1397 01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:36.760 across time into contemporary mystery. And so I was like, 1398 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:41.920 all right, could there be you know, could Jake Barber's 1399 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:48.640 egg UFO be interdimensional? And yeah, I think so. 1400 01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:51.720 And actually you think to me real quick, not to 1401 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:53.760 cut you off, but I just didn't want to brush 1402 01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:54.239 over it. 1403 01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:56.920 They got a UFO retrieval system. 1404 01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:02.960 That's a program. Yeah, wow, okay, isn't that crazy. Yeah, 1405 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:06.079 So there's something I wanted to play rate here. This 1406 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.439 is actually, uh all right, so before we get to 1407 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.600 the to the video, I wanted to play This was 1408 01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:14.000 an article that was written at the time that he 1409 01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:19.760 whistle blew about the egg shape. It's all right, so 1410 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:23.319 it says a former Air Force Special Operations airman told 1411 01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:25.960 News Nation that he worked for a secret unit that 1412 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:30.520 retrieved debris that he believes was from crashed unidentified flying objects. 1413 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:33.880 This is his quote. He goes, just visually looking at 1414 01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:35.800 the object on the ground, you could tell that it 1415 01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:40.760 was an extraordinary h and anomalous or and anomalous. So 1416 01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:42.640 Jake Barber, who said that he had worked in both 1417 01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:45.640 official and unofficial capacities for the US government, told the 1418 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:50.039 network it was not human. Barbara told News Nations Ross 1419 01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:53.680 Coulthart that the object looked like a large white egg 1420 01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.359 and was about the size of an SUV. The UFO, 1421 01:18:56.600 --> 01:19:01.640 which the US government now calls UAPs, or identified Aerial Phenomena, 1422 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:05.279 had no engine and no thermal signature. He said, it's 1423 01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:08.680 inconsistent with anything I'd ever seen before. I can also 1424 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.039 tell you that the reaction by my team, we all 1425 01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:14.399 knew that we were dealing with something extraordinary. Barbara said 1426 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:16.720 it was later confirmed to him that the object was 1427 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.760 a non human intelligence, but he doesn't know what it was. 1428 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:23.840 He also said that he also said that he picked 1429 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.680 up what he called an eight gone which he described 1430 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:31.920 as a flying disc with what looked like eight delineated sections. 1431 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:36.039 Barbara described feeling odd and growing more emotional as he 1432 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.600 got closer to the eight gone object, which we actually 1433 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:41.439 have a video of him speaking about that. It's like 1434 01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:45.239 a minute long, Okay, he goes, it felt like something 1435 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:47.680 connected with me. Whenever he saw this eight gone object 1436 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:51.359 felt like something connected with me. It felt like something 1437 01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:54.560 had tuned into me and my soul and was providing 1438 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.640 me some sense of guidance on what to do and 1439 01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.720 how profound what I was doing was it was so 1440 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.880 overwhelming that I began to cry. 1441 01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:07.720 Wow, instantly started to mess with his consciousness. You know. 1442 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.800 Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like emotional state and everything. 1443 01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:16.119 That's not human. No human shit is not doing that. 1444 01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:17.279 I was kind of hoping. 1445 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:19.800 And that shape that he finds that he found was 1446 01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:21.680 pretty interesting, you know. But I wish you would have 1447 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:24.640 went into more detail as far as like the material. 1448 01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.760 He said it's non human, But like, why why do 1449 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:29.760 you say that? What is it about the material? What 1450 01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.439 could you tell us about it? Yeah, it's been crashed 1451 01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.560 and broke open, you know, like what's inside? 1452 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:36.760 What? 1453 01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:37.399 You know? 1454 01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.920 What I mean? Well, was there anything recognizable? 1455 01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:42.199 I'm happy you asked, sir, because we have a little 1456 01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:45.119 minute and thirty nine second clip of him talking about 1457 01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:45.640 it right now. 1458 01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:47.199 Awesome, All right, let's do it. 1459 01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:55.760 NewsNation has independently obtained previously unseen video obtained from a 1460 01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:03.399 secret UAP craft retrieval program. Extraordinary footage clearly shows an 1461 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:07.479 egg shaped object dangling in a sling below the belly 1462 01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:08.199 of a helicopter. 1463 01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:24.680 Let's slow this down to take a closer look. That's 1464 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:28.800 an egg shaped UAP suspended from a one hundred and 1465 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:32.760 fifty foot long line. We're told the craft is about 1466 01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:37.319 twenty feet long. The egg suspended in a cradle, and 1467 01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.840 look how careful the pilot is as they bring their 1468 01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:45.920 precious cargo into land. Let's freeze frame here to look 1469 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:50.239 at one of the clearest images of a UAP ever taken. 1470 01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:54.760 This is no blurry light in a distant sky. The 1471 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:58.319 source of the footage putting themselves at incredible risk to 1472 01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:03.239 record this UAB the retrieval. Look at how perfectly smooth 1473 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:08.000 the craft is, no markings at all, and no visible 1474 01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:12.960 means of propulsion or way to see inside. Watch how 1475 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:17.199 it rolls, almost graceful as it hits the ground, despite 1476 01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:20.399 being wrapped in the ropes and canvas from the cradle. 1477 01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:26.720 As it's dropped for pickup. The UAP's final destination still unknown. 1478 01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:29.680 Okay, so that was I thought that was gonna be 1479 01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:31.600 a video of him talking, But that was Ross Coultart. 1480 01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:33.680 He was the one that works for a news nation 1481 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.640 that broke the story about the whistleblower, Jake. 1482 01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:38.039 Robber, Right, Yeah, I was. 1483 01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:40.239 I was thinking, like, you know, this is supposed to 1484 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.399 be a crashed UFO. You know, whether he said that 1485 01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:45.680 there was no marks or anything like that unless this 1486 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:49.479 thing is like, you know, impenetrable or you know, you 1487 01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:51.840 can't do anything to harm the outside of it. 1488 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:54.560 You know, how do they know it was crashed? You know? 1489 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:55.079 Yeah? 1490 01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:56.079 Just left there? 1491 01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.600 Yeah, seeming more seemingly more left there rather than crashed. 1492 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:05.279 But this is actually a video of Jake Barber. He's 1493 01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:09.000 being interviewed. Oh, I can't remember what his name is, 1494 01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:12.239 Jesse Michaels or Michelle's. I'm not sure if that's how 1495 01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:15.760 you say it. But it's with Logan, Paul and those people. 1496 01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.319 But check this out. This is him. This is the 1497 01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:21.199 bald guy right here with the glasses. That's Jake Barber. 1498 01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:24.319 But you'll be able to hear what he's describing whenever 1499 01:23:24.359 --> 01:23:27.279 he came in contact with so he had had the 1500 01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.279 first contact with the egg and then the eight gone. 1501 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:32.520 The eight gone craft is what he's describing in this 1502 01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:33.680 in this video. 1503 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:38.560 Okay, have you retrieved a non human craft? 1504 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:38.920 Yes? 1505 01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:40.720 I have. What's the story behind that? 1506 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:45.159 On this particular night, I got my normal readout for 1507 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:48.199 the load. This time it included negative souls on board 1508 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:51.439 and it has matten disclosure for biologics as I'm flying 1509 01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:54.399 and I get closer to this craft, I start having 1510 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:59.319 this very emotional experience, and the closer I got to 1511 01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:03.359 the object, more emotional I got. It was a beautiful feeling. 1512 01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:05.520 Fuck, it's so weird. 1513 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:09.880 It's like that minor chord as a kid, that sad beauty. 1514 01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:11.880 I just felt like I was in the presence of 1515 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:15.560 my mother. It was like a feminine energy. I don't 1516 01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:17.680 know what it was, but the closer I got, the 1517 01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:18.640 more intense it got. 1518 01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:19.359 I hooked up. 1519 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:23.000 As I'm flying back, I'm like completely overwhelmed, balling my 1520 01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:26.600 eyes out, flying out after at night, like trying not 1521 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:29.039 to run into mountains and shit, and I'm like, oh 1522 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.520 my god, this is not good. As I get close, 1523 01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:34.479 I make it there, I safely get it popped off, 1524 01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:36.119 and then as I fly away, it goes away. 1525 01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:41.680 All right. So, whenever I first saw that, I was 1526 01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.159 hoping that he was talking about the egg, but he 1527 01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:45.840 was talking about the eggn Either way, I thought that 1528 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:48.199 it was interesting that he said that he felt almost 1529 01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:50.960 a motherly presence, which reminded me of the egg a 1530 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.159 little bit. If you think about it, you know, yeah, yeah, definitely, 1531 01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:59.079 I mean it see to me whenever you gets emotional. 1532 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:00.840 That just adds a little more validity. 1533 01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:03.279 Mm hm oh yeah, dude. 1534 01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:06.359 I mean he's flying a helicopter pile or flying a 1535 01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:09.920 helicopter trying not to cry and shit like seemingly out 1536 01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:13.520 of nowhere. You know that's unusual, right. 1537 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.680 So after hearing that story, I was like, all right, 1538 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:21.800 could the egg shape UFO be interdimensional? So there are 1539 01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.680 some really crazy physics whenever it comes to this thing 1540 01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.159 that have been released or people that are at least 1541 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:33.039 have been able to observe so, and from you know 1542 01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:36.399 how he described it and everything. So Barbara described the 1543 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:41.720 craft as egg shaped, metallic, no visible propulsion, no engine, 1544 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:43.960 and no thermal signature. Whenever he said that there was 1545 01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:46.880 no souls, that's what he meant, no no thermal signature 1546 01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:48.640 such as like no human souls. 1547 01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:49.960 Huh oh okay. 1548 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:55.760 So conventional flight requires exhaust lift or at least some 1549 01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:59.760 measurable energy trail. This one had none. That strongly suggests 1550 01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:02.479 that it wasn't moving through space the way that we understand, 1551 01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:06.239 but instead bending or phasing around it. That's straight in 1552 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:10.760 line with interdimensional theories. Craft that can that manipulate space 1553 01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:14.680 time or hop between frequency states rather than pushing through 1554 01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:16.600 air like jets. 1555 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:21.159 Right, in that sense, the object itself isn't even moving, 1556 01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.760 you know, everything else is moving around it exactly. 1557 01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:30.319 Yes, So the egg itself is archetypally a container of 1558 01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.359 potential worlds. This is where it gets wild, dude. So 1559 01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:38.039 the orphic egg birth the cosmos, right Hindus Brahmanda cracked 1560 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:41.680 into heaven and Earth in an esoteric lens. An egg 1561 01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:46.960 shaped UFO could represent a dimensional womb, carrying reality inside 1562 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.680 of it, or allowing beings to pass from one realm 1563 01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:52.920 into another. If the ship is literally shaped like the 1564 01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:57.000 cosmic egg, which it was, maybe that's because it functions 1565 01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:01.720 as a microcosmic pleuroma, a whole little universe inside of 1566 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:06.560 a shell, capable of stepping between dimensions. Whoa whole other 1567 01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:11.079 universe and it's just wild. So then there are also 1568 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:14.319 eyewitness parallels, which we kind of talked about a little 1569 01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:18.399 bit earlier. So many UFO experiencers described the inside of 1570 01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:21.760 a craft as larger than the outside. We've heard this 1571 01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:27.880 plenty of times before, right, So it's a classic interdimensional clue. 1572 01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:31.960 So some abductees report being pulled pulled through the wall 1573 01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:35.119 of the craft as if the material was less physical 1574 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:39.560 and more vibrational. And these accounts resonate with Barber's description 1575 01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:42.880 of a craft with no heat, no propulsion. It's not 1576 01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:48.039 behaving like a thing in our dimension alone. That points 1577 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:49.560 to it being interdimensional at that point. 1578 01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:51.520 Yeah, And you know, I was just thinking about this. 1579 01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:55.880 I did hear a story about an abduction where because 1580 01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:57.880 I was just saying, like, how can something physical be 1581 01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:00.560 abducted by something that's kind of non phys you know. 1582 01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:04.600 But in this abduction story, they the guy that got 1583 01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:08.760 the adductee actually claims that it seemed as though his 1584 01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:13.680 frequency or his vibration, like his body like vibrated differently 1585 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:17.199 to a higher frequency, and that's what made it possible 1586 01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:20.000 because they just kind of put him through the wall, 1587 01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:22.199 like they didn't bother opening the door. He kind of 1588 01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:28.079 just phased through it almost like his physicality was was adjusted. Yeah, 1589 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:31.560 to even make that possible, So which who knows, man, 1590 01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:32.079 I don't know. 1591 01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:35.439 It makes sense at that point too, though, because especially 1592 01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:37.880 if we tie in the whole red shift and blue 1593 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:41.399 shift right about how in order to meet them in 1594 01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:43.039 the middle, we have to blue shift. They have to 1595 01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:45.560 red shift, which means they have to lower their vibrational state. 1596 01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:48.720 We have to hire our vibrational state, right if but 1597 01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:51.479 what happens if they come all the way down? Right, 1598 01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:55.520 So now they come all the way down, meaning we're 1599 01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:57.880 not meeting them in the middle, meaning we're not raising 1600 01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:00.439 our vibration in order to match their frequent so that 1601 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:03.359 it doesn't throw us all the way off. They're coming 1602 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:06.720 all the way down in that sense when our vibration 1603 01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:10.760 isn't necessarily where it should be, right, and so that 1604 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:14.680 can make it probably crazy, you know, like as far 1605 01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:17.840 as being in that kind of frequency, being around that 1606 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:19.479 kind of frequency, you wo'd probably throw you off a 1607 01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:23.640 little bit, which is probably why Jake Barber had that experience, right, 1608 01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.119 because he was probably I mean, he's a military guy 1609 01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:28.800 working for the Air Force. He's just a fucking helicopter pilot. 1610 01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:32.720 He's not expecting anything crazily spiritual at that moment, right, 1611 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:34.479 But all of a sudden he comes in contact with 1612 01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:36.760 this eight gon in this in this egg shaped craft, 1613 01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:43.439 and it is bringing him like crazy stimulative like emotions. 1614 01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:45.640 Emotions, right, almost like there was no choice in the matter, 1615 01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.960 like this was just necessary, right, right, So. 1616 01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:51.920 I thought that was kind of interesting, But there is 1617 01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.800 also a gnostic and mystical angle to this. So if 1618 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:58.079 we borrow the orphic egg framework, maybe the egg shaped 1619 01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:01.840 UFO is a manifest a of the same archetype, a 1620 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:06.039 vessel cracking open to let divine or alien lights spill 1621 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:09.479 into our dimension. Gnostics might say that the egg in 1622 01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.640 quotes isn't a spaceship at all, but a living portal, 1623 01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:17.840 an arconic or ionic projection stepping down from higher planes 1624 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:22.640 into ours. So it is very plausible that the Jake 1625 01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:26.479 Barber's egg shaped UFO wasn't interplanetary in the usual sense, 1626 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:30.319 but interdimensional, a container that phases in and out of 1627 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.399 our space time, using the egg archetype as both geometry 1628 01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:36.359 and spiritual symbolism. 1629 01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:38.319 Yep, that's great. 1630 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.760 And I don't know if you remember, but then in 1631 01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:44.640 my past life regression, past life regression, that's what I was. 1632 01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:46.760 I was just like this ball. 1633 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:49.279 I don't know if I was an egg or a sphere, 1634 01:30:49.319 --> 01:30:52.600 but I felt spherical and I was just made of light. 1635 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:55.239 And one of the things that you were asking me 1636 01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:57.239 was like, well, why are you there? You know, because 1637 01:30:57.239 --> 01:30:59.640 there was people around and I can see them, and 1638 01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:02.680 I remember we're saying, like the purpose of me even 1639 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:05.960 being here is to show the people that I'm that 1640 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:09.479 I'm here, you know that that this is this is possible, 1641 01:31:09.640 --> 01:31:13.720 this is something that that just is, Yeah, to recognize 1642 01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:15.039 that's what they're doing. 1643 01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:20.600 Well, just to to show us, uh that we can 1644 01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:23.479 almost like be whole and we don't have to be 1645 01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:27.239 so fragmented, because that consciousness no matter who you come 1646 01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:30.560 in contact with, could be fucking you know, mantis beings, 1647 01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:34.479 could be pleadians, could be whatever. Right, they always seem 1648 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:38.680 like they're not necessarily lacking anything, like they got it together, 1649 01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:40.960 you know what I mean? And could it be that 1650 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:44.039 they're just trying to show us what that looks like. 1651 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:46.680 I don't know. I mean, I'm just getting like real weird. 1652 01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:47.319 Nose, dude. 1653 01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:49.680 I think this is just one of those things though 1654 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.520 that that puts me in that frame of mind, dude 1655 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:55.840 that we don't know shit, No, they eggs so much 1656 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.399 deeper than we could even imagine. 1657 01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:03.680 It's very bad. Yeah. So then I was like, all right, 1658 01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:06.960 we just got done doing that siderio astrology episode and 1659 01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:10.399 we found out that, uh, every seventy two years, the 1660 01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:14.960 Earth has a wobble that shifts the constellations one degree, right, 1661 01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:18.039 and with that wobble, I thought, well, that just reminds 1662 01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:20.800 me of what old Neil deGrasse Tyson said whenever he 1663 01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.960 said that the Earth is less, uh, you know, globular 1664 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.039 and more pear shaped. 1665 01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:29.720 Oblate spheroid I believe is the. 1666 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:36.079 Yes, yes, oblate spheroid. He called it, also pear shaped, right. 1667 01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:37.479 A little wider at the hips. 1668 01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.039 She's a fat bottom girl, right, yeah. 1669 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:43.840 So I was like, well a pair kind of resembles 1670 01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:47.239 the same shape of an egg, right, Okay, So if 1671 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:48.960 we're gonna get real weird, let's take it all the 1672 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:49.399 way there. 1673 01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:54.600 So this there is the scientific shape of the Earth. 1674 01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:57.720 As they say, the Earth is an oblate spheroid, slightly 1675 01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:00.479 flattened at the poles and bulging at the equation due 1676 01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:03.560 to its rotation. Even if you don't believe that the 1677 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:06.000 Earth is round, just follow me here for this, because 1678 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:08.520 it's going to be more symbolic than it is like physical, 1679 01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:12.039 is what I'm trying to say. So beyond that, gravitational 1680 01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:16.319 anomalies make Earth slightly pear shaped. The southern hemisphere bulges 1681 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:18.880 a little bit more than the northern, so the quote 1682 01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:23.560 unquote center of mass is not perfectly even it also wobblesssion, 1683 01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:27.399 with the procession meaning that its axis traces a slow 1684 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:31.359 circle over twenty six thousand years. Some people like to 1685 01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:36.560 call them the yugas, okay, right, And so if you 1686 01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:40.039 exaggerate these features, the Earth really does look closer to 1687 01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:43.199 an egg or a pair than a perfect ball. So 1688 01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:45.479 then you get into the egg shape. Egg shape as 1689 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.439 an archetype, an egg is whiter on one end and 1690 01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:53.039 narrower on the other. Asymmetry within wholeness. Earth's pair bulge 1691 01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:56.199 in the south echoes that. So from a symbolic point 1692 01:33:56.239 --> 01:33:58.920 of view, the Earth as an egg makes sense a 1693 01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:02.960 womb of life. Ancient myths often describe the cosmos or 1694 01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:06.399 Earth as an egg, as we talked about with the 1695 01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:10.439 Hindu Bramata and the orphic egg and the world egg, 1696 01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:14.319 et cetera. This means that the scientific quote unquote pear 1697 01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:16.680 shape can be seen as a modern echo of the 1698 01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:20.479 cosmic egg archetype Earth itself as a living orphic egg 1699 01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:24.399 containing humanity. So then I was like, all right, let's 1700 01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:27.840 go a little bit farther into that. So this is 1701 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:31.560 gonna get wild, but it all ties together. So in 1702 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:36.279 energy healing traditions, the human aura is often described as 1703 01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:42.039 an oric egg, an ovoid field surrounding the whole body. 1704 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:46.840 So Earth would be the macrocosm may mirror the microcosm 1705 01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:53.239 of your energetic egg field. So dude, all right, the 1706 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:58.000 wobble of the Earth could be seen as Earth's hatching 1707 01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:01.359 process cycles of age. Remember I just talked about every 1708 01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:04.920 twenty six thousand years. It it does the whole procession, right, 1709 01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:08.439 the slow circle over twenty six thousand years. The hatching process, 1710 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:12.199 therefore would be the cycles of ages, as like the 1711 01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:16.199 Yugas and astrological ages. So whether we're going into the 1712 01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:19.199 you know, the the age of Aquarius or we're coming 1713 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:21.920 from the age of Pisces or whatever, right that, there 1714 01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:27.560 always seems to be a uh almost, I don't want 1715 01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:30.560 to just a cycle, you know, there just seems to 1716 01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.279 be a cycle. And that could be the slow, the 1717 01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:38.840 slow hatching right where humanity periodically breaks through new shells 1718 01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:42.560 of consciousness and so some esoteric thinkers suggest that Earth 1719 01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:47.399 Earth's egg shape is not accidental but essential. Only listen 1720 01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:51.439 to this. Only an oval form can generate the right 1721 01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.680 harmonics for rotation, magnetism and life. 1722 01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:58.880 Oh shit, that's the egg, dude. 1723 01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:00.520 It's the fucking egg. We could be moving in an 1724 01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:02.800 egg right now. So it's an egg within an egg 1725 01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:05.199 within an egg. So you got the human oric egg 1726 01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:09.079 inside of the Earth egg shape, inside of the cosmic 1727 01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.159 egg itself. It's like the fucking Russian dolls. Bro. 1728 01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:16.359 Yeah, dude, holy shit. So yeah above, so below. 1729 01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:21.520 Man, microcosm, macrocosm, all day. So yes, scientifically Earth is 1730 01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:24.239 closer to a pair than an egg, but symbolically the 1731 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:28.399 distinction is small. It's asymmetry. Wobble and bulge fit right 1732 01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:31.600 into the archetype of the cosmic egg, a container of life, 1733 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:37.720 perfectly imperfect hatching cycles of creation, containers within a container. Dude, 1734 01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:41.600 that's wild, right, that's neat, just for the symbolism. 1735 01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:43.640 You never I never even would have looked at it 1736 01:36:43.640 --> 01:36:43.960 that way. 1737 01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:48.000 Yeah, I've heard of the Earth being the oblate spheroid 1738 01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:51.119 and all that, and surely it's very like if you're 1739 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:53.880 in space looking at it, you probably wouldn't even notice. 1740 01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:56.439 But as it said, if you, if you make it 1741 01:36:56.479 --> 01:37:01.800 more dramatic, then then you would clearly see that that shape. 1742 01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:01.359 Yeah exactly. 1743 01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:02.239 Yeah. 1744 01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.720 So and and dude, there's there's all kind of like 1745 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:11.159 sacred geometry with the egg shape as well, and we're 1746 01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:12.880 not gonna be getting into that because that could take 1747 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:14.079 us down a whole nother hour. 1748 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:17.279 At least, sacred geometry is something else. 1749 01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:21.720 Dude, Oh dude, it's crazy because the the egg hatches 1750 01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:26.760 from the the sacred seed, so the sacred seed turns 1751 01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:29.279 into the sacred egg, then turns into the you know, 1752 01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:33.399 the the flour and all this other shit. But yeah, 1753 01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.760 so all right, now, how do you put this into 1754 01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:39.439 your own spiritual practice if you're trying to? All right, 1755 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:41.800 I was like, all right, you know, we like to 1756 01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:44.760 we like to understand and you know, learn about the 1757 01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:47.760 philosophy and everything like that. It's apply it, But how 1758 01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:49.880 do you how do you know, how does it put 1759 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:51.079 the lotion on its skin? 1760 01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:52.279 What do you do with it? 1761 01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:55.760 So, for a modern seeker, the orphic egg can be 1762 01:37:55.800 --> 01:38:00.159 a powerful meditation tool. Visualizing this self as an egg whole, 1763 01:38:00.439 --> 01:38:04.359 unified yet waiting to crack, can help one connect with 1764 01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:08.880 the process of inner awakening. In meditation, imagine light glowing 1765 01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:12.159 within an egg in your heart or your mind. Within 1766 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:15.920 each breath, the egg glows brighter until it cracks open 1767 01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:20.159 and floods your being with radiant awareness. This simple visualization 1768 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:24.079 mirrors the orphic mystery of fanes the light born within, 1769 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:28.760 So in ritual, the egg can symbolize rebirth, transformation, or 1770 01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:32.880 preservation of divine potential. Placing an egg on an altar, 1771 01:38:33.159 --> 01:38:37.039 painting it with symbols, or using it as in seasonal 1772 01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:41.920 rights echoes ancient practices while empowering the modern mystic. So 1773 01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:44.920 all right, you know, if nothing else, just imagine, you know, 1774 01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:47.680 like it said that in that meditation, which, by the way, 1775 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.399 we do have an egg meditation we're going to be 1776 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:51.079 meditating on. 1777 01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:54.680 I was hoping you'd say that, Yeah, I would expect 1778 01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:55.399 no less from you. 1779 01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:58.439 It's just, you know, it has to do. We have 1780 01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:00.720 to go there because we're trying to crack that egg 1781 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:03.520 tonight baby. Which, by the way, if you want to 1782 01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:05.680 join us in that meditation, the only place to join 1783 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:07.720 us in that meditation would be at patreon dot com 1784 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:10.279 slash Meta Mysteries that links down the show to us below. 1785 01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:11.760 It's the best way to be able to support us. 1786 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:14.800 We appreciate all of the one who have done so already. 1787 01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.920 We are a small cult so far, but we are 1788 01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:23.600 trying to broaden our horizons. And yes, yes, we're gathering 1789 01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:26.760 yes and yes. So if you want to be able 1790 01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:28.000 to suppor us, that would be the best way to 1791 01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:31.920 do so. And over there we have a couple of 1792 01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:33.600 different tiers. If you just want to be able to 1793 01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:35.079 get the shows a couple of days in advance. You 1794 01:39:35.079 --> 01:39:36.199 want to be able to see all the video, you 1795 01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:37.840 want to be able to see it all commercial free 1796 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.720 and slide into our DMS and ask us questions, show 1797 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:44.640 suggestions or guest suggestions or anything like that. You'll have 1798 01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:49.199 direct access with us on a daily basis that we have. 1799 01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:51.359 That tier would only be three dollars and thirty three 1800 01:39:51.399 --> 01:39:55.520 cents a month. That's like nothing. And then we have 1801 01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:58.880 the higher tier, which would be all of that included 1802 01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:01.960 with uh, you being able to join us live every 1803 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:06.439 Wednesday night for Wonder Wizday. We usually have like an 1804 01:40:06.439 --> 01:40:10.680 awesome guest or we just like to get together and 1805 01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:15.399 kind of like contemplate a little bit together. That being said, 1806 01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:18.920 our next Wonder Wizday is actually going to be this 1807 01:40:19.079 --> 01:40:22.960 upcoming Wizday Wednesday with your boy Optimistic Banks. 1808 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:26.039 Yeah, dude, so it's been it's been a minute man, 1809 01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:26.960 love that guy. 1810 01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:30.720 Yes, Yes, it's gonna be awesome. So and we got 1811 01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:33.760 we actually have like guest scheduled like a month in 1812 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:36.680 advance right now. We're trying to we're trying to get 1813 01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:39.319 as many guests as we can because it's just nice 1814 01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:41.119 being able to see where everybody else is at on 1815 01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.039 their journey and what they've discovered. Maybe it aligns with 1816 01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:46.520 what we've discovered, and and if it doesn't align, then 1817 01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:47.960 it's like, all right, well these are things that we 1818 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:50.279 would never would have probably touched on, you know, right. 1819 01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:52.960 I think it's necessary, you know, because, like we've said before, 1820 01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:56.000 you can kind of get locked into our you know, 1821 01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:58.319 our frame of thinking and just the research that we've 1822 01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:00.319 come along, and you know, and then someone else comes 1823 01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:02.720 along with this whole different way of looking at it, 1824 01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:04.880 and it's like, oh, I'm gonna go ahead and take 1825 01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:05.560 a little bit of that. 1826 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:06.680 For myself, you know. 1827 01:41:07.319 --> 01:41:09.960 Exactly egg, exactly egg. 1828 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:12.520 Yes. You know. 1829 01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:15.079 What else I thought too was really cool was the 1830 01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:20.119 the orphic egg that was described in Secret Teachings of 1831 01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:25.279 All Ages. Was that it said that the human is 1832 01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:29.079 the egg, right, and that the snake represents the mysteries 1833 01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:33.680 and it's the mysteries that surround the human and eventually 1834 01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:36.119 that pressure is going to crack that egg, but it's 1835 01:41:36.119 --> 01:41:39.800 the mysteries that are surrounding it, and I thought, holy shit, 1836 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:42.520 is that's deeply symbolic with meta mysteries at that. 1837 01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:45.239 Yea, oh dude, and just the the egg and the 1838 01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:49.560 serpent in general are both just very symbolic symbols, you know, 1839 01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.760 put together in one. Man. It's funny because we were 1840 01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:55.520 just showed my son the Power Ranger movie, the old 1841 01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:57.920 school one you know, with like the purple ooze. I 1842 01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.000 forget exactly what that one is called, but basically when 1843 01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:04.000 the when the bad guy comes, it's like this purple 1844 01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:06.880 egg that like comes out of the ground and it's 1845 01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:10.520 like this hand holding a purple egg, and it's just like. 1846 01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:12.279 Okay something to that. 1847 01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:14.159 Man, Yeah, you might want to look at that just 1848 01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:17.760 because it's dude, I watched that movie so many times 1849 01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.039 as a young in that I literally I ran out 1850 01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:21.399 the tape and my parents had to buy me a 1851 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:26.760 new VHS office. Yeah, the special effects definitely do not 1852 01:42:27.039 --> 01:42:29.960 hold up, you know, but uh, that's still fun though, 1853 01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:31.560 you know, old school Power Rangers. 1854 01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:35.760 Dude, that's a classic though. Rip to the White Ranger. 1855 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:40.119 Yeah, dude, sad he went, he went through it. He 1856 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:41.720 did so. 1857 01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:45.239 In closing, we are going to crack the shell of 1858 01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:49.439 the cosmos. So the orphic egg is more than a myth. 1859 01:42:49.640 --> 01:42:52.680 It's a timeless symbol of beginnings, of potential and of 1860 01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:57.079 great mystery of consciousness. From chaos and darkness emerged unity, 1861 01:42:57.359 --> 01:43:01.039 then light, then creation. From the egg came fins, and 1862 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:04.319 from fanes came all things. But the myth does not 1863 01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:07.840 just belong to the cosmos. It belongs to you. Within 1864 01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:10.840 you is the orphic egg, the hidden light, the spark 1865 01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:14.119 of divine consciousness, sealed in the shell of the flesh, 1866 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:17.199 waiting to be born. The moment you seek nosis, the 1867 01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:20.159 moment you awaken, the shell begins to crack. So the 1868 01:43:20.199 --> 01:43:22.119 next time you see an egg, don't just think of 1869 01:43:22.199 --> 01:43:25.399 breakfast or Easter. Think of the cosmos, think of creation. 1870 01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:28.319 Think of your own soul waiting to break free. The 1871 01:43:28.439 --> 01:43:32.039 orphic egg whispers to us across millennia. Within you lies 1872 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:33.800 the universe waiting to hatch. 1873 01:43:34.840 --> 01:43:37.800 Dude, I mean, even even Humpty Dumpty was put back 1874 01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:39.840 together again, you know, so. 1875 01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:43.800 Damn, I bet you there's something to that. Actually, there 1876 01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:47.119 has to be. Yeah, dude, Wow, nothing new under the sun. 1877 01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:49.479 How did I not think of that one? I don't know, 1878 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:51.359 It just came to me like right now, actually, like 1879 01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:54.640 on the spot, Well, what do we got for that 1880 01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:55.279 tarot card? 1881 01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:55.560 Sir? 1882 01:43:56.000 --> 01:43:56.199 Oh? 1883 01:43:56.359 --> 01:44:00.279 We you know what we got? Judgment? Really yeah? 1884 01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:02.840 Actually I told two of them, but the judgment one 1885 01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:04.319 was the one that came out first. We could do 1886 01:44:04.359 --> 01:44:06.840 both of them if you want, but I'd say we 1887 01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:07.680 just do judgment. 1888 01:44:08.079 --> 01:44:08.680 All right? 1889 01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:10.079 Where is I think judgments? 1890 01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:11.960 Which is interesting, you know because I think in the 1891 01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:14.880 beginning when you were talking about the fans and all 1892 01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:18.840 of that, it did say something about the wings, you know, 1893 01:44:18.920 --> 01:44:21.359 that it was given or that it that it spawned 1894 01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:22.000 or you know. 1895 01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:23.720 So let's see. 1896 01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:30.319 Oh wow, how about the upright meanings? So the meaning 1897 01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:35.000 of the word judgment is awakening and acceptance. 1898 01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:38.000 Right the cracking of that Shelly damn. 1899 01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:42.359 So judgment serves as the ultimate release when we are 1900 01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:45.000 accepting of the past and our end of ourselves as 1901 01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:47.600 we follow the divine call to our spiritual awakening. 1902 01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:51.960 Oh my god, dude, come on, come on. 1903 01:44:52.279 --> 01:44:54.600 You are ready for the next step in personal growth, 1904 01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:57.760 accepting yourself and releasing the past and the judgment card. 1905 01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:00.000 An angel in the sky blows a trumpet while people 1906 01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:04.840 emerge from caskets, rejoicing as they heed the call emerge 1907 01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:10.840 from caskets. Bro Come on now they're coming out of 1908 01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:17.800 the tomb, you know, like this is wild. The artwork 1909 01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:20.960 on this card references the Biblical resurrection on Judgment Day, 1910 01:45:21.239 --> 01:45:23.920 overt Christian themes aside. What you see on this card 1911 01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:26.880 is a depiction of answering the universe's signs that prompt 1912 01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:30.960 a spiritual awakening. During the awakening process, you reflect on 1913 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:35.359 your life choices, actions and experiences as you judge yourself. 1914 01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:38.119 Remember to have compassion for who you once were and 1915 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:40.720 release those judgments so you are able to move on 1916 01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:41.479 from the past. 1917 01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:44.640 Dude, that's pretty spot on. 1918 01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:46.079 You know. 1919 01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:48.680 It just never seems to amaze me how these just 1920 01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:53.000 align perfectly. The spiritual message behind it says, put your 1921 01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:55.760 energy toward noticing the signs from the universe so you 1922 01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.359 can begin releasing yourself from self criticism and judgment. This 1923 01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:02.239 is the time to start accepting your spiritual gifts, moving 1924 01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:05.159 on from past pain, and embracing a new period of 1925 01:46:05.199 --> 01:46:06.199 spiritual awakening. 1926 01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:11.880 Signs from the universe. Man being that cosmic egg. You know, 1927 01:46:12.039 --> 01:46:14.399 that's so universal and well known. 1928 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:19.399 Wow, that is so amazing. I love that lined up 1929 01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:19.800 the way. 1930 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:20.520 That it did. Yeah. 1931 01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:22.600 I wasn't even sure if it was going to you know, 1932 01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:24.279 I saw the wings and I was like, oh, we 1933 01:46:24.319 --> 01:46:26.840 did say something about wings or whatever. But yeah, lined 1934 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:29.000 up way better than I could have imagined, you know, 1935 01:46:29.039 --> 01:46:32.840 which it actually always does really literally awakening. 1936 01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:37.479 Come on now, that's literally the cracking of the egg 1937 01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:39.560 is the awakening. It's the illumination. 1938 01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:42.079 You know, it can be on the veil at this point, man, 1939 01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:43.720 you know, come on now. 1940 01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:47.800 So yeah, I guess. I mean, what do you think 1941 01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:50.680 about the orphic egg? You dig it? It's awesome, dude, 1942 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:53.520 it's awesome. It looks like a cool tattoo in the making, 1943 01:46:53.760 --> 01:46:55.159 you know, is what I was thinking when I was 1944 01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:56.640 looking at it before we started recording. 1945 01:46:56.640 --> 01:46:57.720 I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. 1946 01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:00.479 Yeah, yeah, that would be a cool tattoo. 1947 01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:07.960 I like that. Yeah, so some eyebrows, I'm sure, but yeah. 1948 01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:08.319 It is cool. 1949 01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:08.560 Man. 1950 01:47:08.680 --> 01:47:11.640 You know, the the snake is always seen as you know, 1951 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:15.880 it's the evil serpent, you know, but in in in 1952 01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:20.560 Mystery Schools and Gnosticism and literally everywhere else, the scene 1953 01:47:20.680 --> 01:47:23.279 the snake is always seen as the one that is 1954 01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:28.319 essentially bringing the the mystery, the wisdom, the sophia, you 1955 01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:30.479 know what I mean, Like it's always the it's the 1956 01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:31.159 light bearer. 1957 01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:31.840 You know. 1958 01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.199 It's like it's so crazy, how how that is just 1959 01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:40.279 I mean, all across all cultures, they all say the 1960 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:44.399 same thing. And even within Christianity, you know, the devil 1961 01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:47.399 was known as the serpent, which is the light bearer. 1962 01:47:47.359 --> 01:47:50.880 You know, which it joways gets me, you know, because 1963 01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:54.600 like God made the serpent too, you know, and he 1964 01:47:54.760 --> 01:47:57.079 also knew exactly what. 1965 01:47:57.079 --> 01:47:59.359 Was going to go down with that. You know. It 1966 01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:02.279 wasn't like, wait, what's going on over here? You know, 1967 01:48:02.359 --> 01:48:04.760 you're all knowing what are you talking about? Bro? 1968 01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:08.840 It knew at that point. God didn't make the serpent, 1969 01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:12.439 he is the serpent. Yes, that's the That's the real 1970 01:48:12.479 --> 01:48:15.399 truth behind it. I think that, you know, if it's 1971 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:18.560 all one thing, then he's the good guy, he's the 1972 01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:21.359 bad guy and everything in between, just like you, just 1973 01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:24.159 like me, just like everybody you've ever met. Nobody is perfect. 1974 01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:26.520 Everybody has some light, everybody has some dark. We're a 1975 01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:31.840 perfect little mix of that sense. And you know which 1976 01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:35.039 even if you put it to a neoplatonic view. It's like, yeah, 1977 01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:37.800 we're the farthest from the light. That doesn't necessarily mean 1978 01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:42.079 that we're we're the farthest from the the original light source. 1979 01:48:42.239 --> 01:48:46.119 That doesn't mean that you know that we're evil by 1980 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:48.319 any means. It's just that the light is farthest away. 1981 01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:52.560 But even still we're still in the light, you know 1982 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:56.279 what I'm saying. So you're still a part of that source, 1983 01:48:56.319 --> 01:48:58.760 of that divine essence of that, you know what I mean? 1984 01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:01.600 Like that that uh that I don't know what you 1985 01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:03.920 want to call it, the universe, the source, God, whatever 1986 01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:06.439 you want to call it. It really doesn't matter. And 1987 01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:08.359 guess what, it probably doesn't care what. 1988 01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:08.880 You call it. 1989 01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:12.159 So that's the real I mean, I think that that's 1990 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:13.079 the real shit right there. 1991 01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:15.880 Right, Yeah, that's the good. 1992 01:49:17.159 --> 01:49:21.479 That's the good news. So yeah, with that being said, uh, 1993 01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:24.800 we are going to jump into the meditation. But if 1994 01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:27.199 you want, you know, if you're just listening to this 1995 01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:30.000 on the Cult of Conspiracy podcast or on metamisteries, you're 1996 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:33.079 listening to it on YouTube, we are we always divulge 1997 01:49:33.119 --> 01:49:38.279 of you know, what we experienced during said meditation, and uh, yeah, 1998 01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:40.279 that's what we're gonna get to By the way, if 1999 01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:44.000 you would leave a leave a review, leave us five stars. 2000 01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:46.439 If you can, you can comment on Spotify, do whatever, 2001 01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:49.359 you can share us with everybody, uh, that you feel 2002 01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:52.039 like is going through some sort of spiritual awakening, and 2003 01:49:52.119 --> 01:49:56.920 maybe this spiritual or fic egg and the snake of 2004 01:49:57.119 --> 01:49:59.840 mysteries is just enough to be able to crack that 2005 01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:04.159 even a little bit more amongst your peers, even symbolically. 2006 01:50:04.359 --> 01:50:07.560 And that's the magic of symbolism in general, is that 2007 01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:11.880 it speaks volumes. It's not just surface level, it's everything encompassing. 2008 01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:16.560 It's almost like, oh, what is it called the surface 2009 01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:21.760 level horizon of a black hole? Right, It's like event horizon. 2010 01:50:22.159 --> 01:50:25.119 So the event horizon, they say at the which is 2011 01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:29.039 the surface of a black hole. It encapsulates everything that 2012 01:50:29.279 --> 01:50:32.119 ever has gone on and ever will go on, and 2013 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:35.199 everything that is currently going on that is on the surface. 2014 01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:38.199 It's the event horizon. It captures every single moment that 2015 01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:42.880 has ever existed within that black hole. And so yeah, 2016 01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:47.399 maybe that's enough to get you excited. Maybe we're living in, 2017 01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:48.560 you know, a black hole. 2018 01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:50.840 Some people say that the sums I think even some 2019 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:53.880 scientists speculate that that it's possible that we are just 2020 01:50:54.039 --> 01:50:58.079 a universe within a universe, and within that black hole 2021 01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.199 is our universe, and you know what I mean, So 2022 01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:01.319 who knows? Man? 2023 01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:02.600 You know, every time I think of. 2024 01:51:02.520 --> 01:51:05.199 A black hole, I I really don't understand it. Like 2025 01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:07.720 as much as I think I'm understanding it, I'm like, Okay, 2026 01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:10.840 it's a black hole, but it's full of mass, which 2027 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:14.159 would tell me that it's. 2028 01:51:13.159 --> 01:51:15.800 Solid, you know, and I don't know. It just gets 2029 01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:18.800 wild for me. Yeah, I mean, but I love it though. 2030 01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:21.680 It's it's pretty damn fascinating. But uh but yeah, that 2031 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:23.720 being said, we're gonna wrap this baby up and get 2032 01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:27.439 over to the meditation. So uh yeah, hopefully you guys 2033 01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:31.840 really enjoyed that. But if the orphic and came here 2034 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:34.760 and it taught you anything, it's that you don't know 2035 01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:38.279 what you don't know, so I'll just get weird. 2036 01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:52.920 Stay weird. What'd you think? Dude? 2037 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:54.039 Oh? 2038 01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:58.079 I was uh, I was experiencing some some shit. 2039 01:51:58.800 --> 01:52:02.640 Yeah yeah, it was elaborate. 2040 01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:04.199 Yeah. 2041 01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:07.800 Yeah. So at first I was like, man, that that 2042 01:52:07.960 --> 01:52:11.079 sound is kind of fucking whack, you know, at first, 2043 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:14.520 because I was like, man, this just sounds like not 2044 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:18.640 really something that you could get into a meditation with 2045 01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:20.920 at first, and then I was like, but what if 2046 01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:23.680 it is? What if it was you know, and just 2047 01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:28.399 try and prep play around like that, And instantly I 2048 01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:32.199 started thinking of all right, this is where my mind goes. 2049 01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:37.039 So I was thinking, all right, if they say that, 2050 01:52:37.159 --> 01:52:39.800 you know in the Bible, that God spoke the universe 2051 01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:44.560 into into existence, right, and so that means that it 2052 01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:47.920 would have to be some form of harmonics, some form 2053 01:52:47.960 --> 01:52:56.039 of frequency, some sort of sound that ultimately made manifest 2054 01:52:56.159 --> 01:53:01.039 the physical right. And so then and it was just like, 2055 01:53:01.079 --> 01:53:03.880 all right, well now I'm thinking, all right, if you 2056 01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:08.079 got these I don't want to say these beings, but 2057 01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:15.159 just whatever the unity is the source is, right, how 2058 01:53:15.239 --> 01:53:19.079 would it create something out of harmonics? At that point, 2059 01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:21.920 and I was thinking, well, you know, whenever you uh, 2060 01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:24.520 let's just say you have like a dresser or something 2061 01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:26.520 like that, and you're the only one that's pushing it 2062 01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:28.239 and you're trying to move it to a different location 2063 01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:30.439 in your house, or maybe you got like a tool 2064 01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:32.319 bench or something like that that you're trying to move, 2065 01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:34.119 and you know you can't pick it up by yourself, 2066 01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:36.880 so it's going to be scraping across the floor, right, 2067 01:53:37.239 --> 01:53:41.720 almost like tectonic pate, tectonic plates that are shifting a 2068 01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:44.359 little bit. That's almost the vibe that it was given off, 2069 01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:48.760 and that that sound would be emergent from the physical 2070 01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:52.319 being moved at that point. But if, but if sound, 2071 01:53:52.880 --> 01:53:56.399 you know, came first before the physicality, then you would 2072 01:53:56.439 --> 01:54:00.720 almost need that sound in order to create the physical 2073 01:54:00.840 --> 01:54:03.760 So you would need something a little bit more crazy 2074 01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:06.880 sounding like that, like you're really doing some kind of work, 2075 01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:09.359 and so it's gonna sound like, you know, a little 2076 01:54:09.359 --> 01:54:11.640 bit chaotic at that point in order to move some 2077 01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:12.199 shit around. 2078 01:54:12.279 --> 01:54:12.439 Right. 2079 01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:15.960 So then I was thinking, all right, well, I'm trying 2080 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:18.560 to imagine what that thing looks like. I started thinking 2081 01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.760 about the uh, you know, the the angel with the 2082 01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:24.279 wheels and the eyes and all that kind of stuff, 2083 01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:29.920 that that was ultimately the uh, the unified whatever. I mean, 2084 01:54:29.960 --> 01:54:32.800 some people think that that's the angel or whatever. Maybe 2085 01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:37.039 it is. But could that wheel within a wheel with 2086 01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:39.399 all the eyes be the thing that is giving off 2087 01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:42.920 the harmonics, that is pushing and forcing things into physical 2088 01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:43.920 reality of source? 2089 01:54:44.039 --> 01:54:44.239 Right? 2090 01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:47.039 And yeah, I don't know. My mind just started getting 2091 01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:49.199 a little crazy, and then I was like, all right, well, 2092 01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:55.039 if I'm trying to imagine, you know, essentially, you know that, uh, 2093 01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:58.439 what was it like, that one little atom that was 2094 01:54:58.479 --> 01:55:01.880 compressed before the Big b Yeah, man, I feel like 2095 01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.960 I'm going crazy. But that one little atom that was 2096 01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:08.359 compressed before the Big bang, the moment of the explosion, 2097 01:55:08.479 --> 01:55:12.840 right before that, you know, I wonder, you know, all right, well, 2098 01:55:13.279 --> 01:55:17.279 if if it was just a void of nothingness, I 2099 01:55:17.279 --> 01:55:20.520 don't First of all, there's never been any such thing 2100 01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:24.600 as nothingness ever, right, nothingness can't exist, right by definition, 2101 01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:28.800 it's never existed. It can't exist. So that would mean 2102 01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:33.520 that that one unified little atom, call that source, call 2103 01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:37.319 that God whatever, call that the the pre Big Bang 2104 01:55:37.880 --> 01:55:42.760 that existed. If it was just existing in the void, 2105 01:55:42.880 --> 01:55:44.960 let's call it. I don't even want to call it nothingness. 2106 01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:47.039 Let's just call it the void. And it almost made 2107 01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:49.920 me wonder, like, all right, then, that means that that 2108 01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:53.319 one little atom that was compressed was still within a 2109 01:55:53.399 --> 01:55:57.399 container of the void itself. And it made me wonder, like, 2110 01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:01.319 I mean, is the void itsself elf conscious? 2111 01:56:01.600 --> 01:56:01.840 You know? 2112 01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:04.680 And that brings forth like the idea of the end 2113 01:56:04.680 --> 01:56:07.640 and the yang, right, the light inside of the darkness 2114 01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:10.119 and the darkness inside of the light with the two 2115 01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:14.199 fishes chasing each other. Because I would imagine, you know, 2116 01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:16.720 kind of like how I was in the void, I 2117 01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:19.319 was aware of the void. I wonder if the void 2118 01:56:19.479 --> 01:56:21.239 was aware of me. And that's what they say, is 2119 01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:23.640 that you stare into the abyss only to realize that 2120 01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:25.199 the abyss is staring back up at you. 2121 01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:25.840 Right. 2122 01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:28.159 And what's interesting is when people, you know, as far 2123 01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:30.720 as what I hear, when people go into that that 2124 01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:34.920 DMT realm, it seems like they are with entities that 2125 01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:38.840 are of of other you know, they're not coming from you. 2126 01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:43.119 There of an intelligence other than you outside of you. 2127 01:56:43.279 --> 01:56:45.399 And so if you look at it that way, then 2128 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:49.279 the void itself would be that still even though to 2129 01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:53.680 you it looked like it was absence of anything, you know, 2130 01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:55.760 but it still had its own intelligence. 2131 01:56:55.960 --> 01:56:58.880 Well, it just made me think, like, all right, that 2132 01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:03.880 void was there before I appeared there, and so that void, 2133 01:57:04.359 --> 01:57:06.840 being by itself, felt home. Nothing was out of the 2134 01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:10.720 ordinary until I popped in. So now it's probably just 2135 01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:13.560 as scared of me as I was of it, you 2136 01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:15.640 know what I'm saying. If if the void itself is 2137 01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:18.439 a conscious thing like a I don't know, maybe it 2138 01:57:18.560 --> 01:57:19.520 just is consciousness. 2139 01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:22.920 It's the it's the you're an interdimensional being to the 2140 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:27.479 void at that point, yes, and so it's and so 2141 01:57:27.640 --> 01:57:31.079 now it was losing its own mind by staring back 2142 01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:34.640 at me at that point, right, and so now it's 2143 01:57:34.680 --> 01:57:36.720 like we're both lost, and so what do we do 2144 01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:37.520 to figure this out? 2145 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:41.239 We're gonna fucking combine forces, and your pressure, your pressure 2146 01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:43.840 that you're applying onto the one little atom that is 2147 01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:47.319 me causes the explosion. And you know at that point, 2148 01:57:47.439 --> 01:57:49.760 because at first you're scared of each other, then you're like, 2149 01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:52.079 all right, let's work together. It's all we got, you know. 2150 01:57:52.640 --> 01:57:54.800 And uh, I don't know. I'm just thinking like outside 2151 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:57.359 the box with that. For some reason, that's where my 2152 01:57:57.399 --> 01:58:01.680 mind went. It went, you know, angels giving off harmonics, 2153 01:58:02.319 --> 01:58:06.079 and the the yin yang essentially being the void, and 2154 01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:10.920 the awareness and the awareness also be the void also 2155 01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:13.399 be consciousness and awareness and of itself. 2156 01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:15.560 Mmm, no, that's cool. I love it. I see. 2157 01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:18.119 I love where the mind goes because I'm sure you 2158 01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:21.319 weren't intending on going there. No, you didn't know where 2159 01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.840 you were gonna go. You didn't know what you'd end 2160 01:58:23.960 --> 01:58:27.000 up pondering. But whatever kind of just starts, and then 2161 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:29.000 you kind of just let that build and let it 2162 01:58:29.079 --> 01:58:31.920 kind of develop on its own, almost, and then here 2163 01:58:31.960 --> 01:58:35.439 you are trying to figure out or understand the beginning 2164 01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:36.159 of everything. 2165 01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:36.880 You know. 2166 01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:39.439 It's like, I love that kind of shit. It's one 2167 01:58:39.439 --> 01:58:41.159 of my favorite things to think about. I know that 2168 01:58:41.199 --> 01:58:44.000 it's something that we'll never understand, and let's be honest, 2169 01:58:44.800 --> 01:58:45.359 you can try. 2170 01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:47.399 It's fun to think about, you know. But it's funny 2171 01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:47.840 how you. 2172 01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:52.159 Went on too pondering about the beginning of everything, And 2173 01:58:52.239 --> 01:58:55.840 what I was thinking about it was the like eternal now, 2174 01:58:56.760 --> 01:58:58.680 you know, and that's what I went to. And as 2175 01:58:58.720 --> 01:59:01.159 far as like because I know that we tend to 2176 01:59:01.199 --> 01:59:04.119 do that, we tend to go to the extremes. We 2177 01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:06.920 go to the beginning of everything, or the beginning, you know, 2178 01:59:07.439 --> 01:59:10.640 the alpha or the omega, the very end of something, 2179 01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:14.359 the end of something's life. And I think that, and 2180 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:16.119 I know it sounds cliche, but I feel like we 2181 01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:18.600 should just be focusing on right now because I feel 2182 01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:22.279 like we're always or at least let me speak for myself, 2183 01:59:22.720 --> 01:59:26.319 I feel like there's always like this ramping up of something, 2184 01:59:26.399 --> 01:59:30.159 like it's always something's building for this next thing or 2185 01:59:30.199 --> 01:59:33.640 this thing we have coming up next month or this like, oh, 2186 01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:36.640 let's get this new promotion or let's all we're gonna 2187 01:59:36.720 --> 01:59:39.279 maybe buy a house. Like it's always like this thing 2188 01:59:39.399 --> 01:59:42.439 that's not here, and it's like it's never here. But 2189 01:59:42.479 --> 01:59:45.800 then I feel like we're just we're missing it. We're 2190 01:59:45.800 --> 01:59:47.279 missing the right now. 2191 01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:47.640 You know. 2192 01:59:47.680 --> 01:59:50.199 It's like, but there's no, it's not a race. It's 2193 01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:53.680 not this fucking competition that we're at odds with everything 2194 01:59:53.680 --> 01:59:55.760 all the time. Let's just like enjoy what we have 2195 01:59:55.880 --> 01:59:58.439 right now. That I heard this one guy and I 2196 01:59:58.560 --> 02:00:00.920 don't remember who was saying that, but he was talking 2197 02:00:00.960 --> 02:00:03.039 about like the purpose of life, you know, and just 2198 02:00:03.079 --> 02:00:06.800 saying like, in his opinion, the thing that we should 2199 02:00:06.840 --> 02:00:09.119 be doing with the purpose in life is to just 2200 02:00:09.399 --> 02:00:12.439 enjoy the passage of time. You know, Like that's it, 2201 02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:15.000 Like we're in it here. We are like, don't be 2202 02:00:15.159 --> 02:00:20.119 so you know, anxious to get somewhere else or to 2203 02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:22.760 be you know, to build up to this next higher 2204 02:00:22.840 --> 02:00:23.640 level of something. 2205 02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:26.760 It's just like be here, dude, because that's all we 2206 02:00:26.880 --> 02:00:29.000 got always exactly. 2207 02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:32.640 And so yeah, it's funny that you mentioned the the 2208 02:00:32.720 --> 02:00:35.039 angels with the with the eyes whatever because at one 2209 02:00:35.039 --> 02:00:36.840 point I didn't feel like I saw a bunch of 2210 02:00:37.159 --> 02:00:39.319 bunch of eyeballs like staring. 2211 02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:39.479 Back at me. 2212 02:00:39.680 --> 02:00:43.119 Really, and you bring up the void like observing you. Yeah, 2213 02:00:43.199 --> 02:00:46.880 so that's kind of cool. But yeah, I mean, other 2214 02:00:46.960 --> 02:00:49.279 than that, nothing, nothing too crazy happened. But it did 2215 02:00:49.279 --> 02:00:52.119 feel pretty pretty mystical in its own right, you. 2216 02:00:52.079 --> 02:00:57.079 Know, dude. Yeah, it's man, it's just so crazy because 2217 02:00:57.159 --> 02:01:01.600 it's it's things that you never think think about, that 2218 02:01:01.920 --> 02:01:04.000 you know that you think about, that you tend to 2219 02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:06.760 think about. In meditation, it just causes you to zoom 2220 02:01:06.840 --> 02:01:09.680 in farther than you've ever zoomed in before, because what 2221 02:01:09.720 --> 02:01:12.000 else are you gonna do? You know, you're not worried 2222 02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:14.680 about your next meal, you're not worried about sleeping, you're 2223 02:01:14.680 --> 02:01:17.560 not worried about anything sexual or working, or you're not 2224 02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:21.520 worried about any of that in meditation because you're you're 2225 02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:26.119 in that higher perspective, and that higher perspective doesn't need 2226 02:01:26.159 --> 02:01:29.600 all those things. You know, that higher perspective can see 2227 02:01:29.640 --> 02:01:34.960 beyond just the materialistic shit that is inevitably going to 2228 02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:38.560 be taken from our cold, dead hands, you know, And 2229 02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:42.000 that's the beauty of going so deep in meditation, even 2230 02:01:42.039 --> 02:01:44.279 if dude, that was only nine minutes, nine and a 2231 02:01:44.319 --> 02:01:46.920 half minutes something like that, and we were able to 2232 02:01:47.319 --> 02:01:50.399 gather a lot of information, you know, first off from 2233 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:53.520 you know, the content of what of which we talked about, 2234 02:01:53.520 --> 02:01:56.279 but like you know, and then combining that with that 2235 02:01:56.479 --> 02:01:59.880 sound and you know, and man, it's just crazy that 2236 02:02:01.239 --> 02:02:05.279 information and meditation birth's new thought. 2237 02:02:05.880 --> 02:02:06.920 Mm hmm. Yeah. 2238 02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:08.840 And like you said, you know, you just never know 2239 02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:11.319 where it's gonna go. Like in the beginning of that meditation, 2240 02:02:11.439 --> 02:02:13.800 I was just trying to get into it, you know, 2241 02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:15.840 just like all right, let me see what vehicle do 2242 02:02:15.920 --> 02:02:18.199 I need to get here, you know, to get where 2243 02:02:18.199 --> 02:02:20.079 I'm going. And I just imagined that I was like 2244 02:02:20.199 --> 02:02:24.439 inside of an egg of a ufover whatever you want 2245 02:02:24.439 --> 02:02:26.159 to call it. I'm inside of this thing and it's 2246 02:02:26.239 --> 02:02:29.000 just just barely big enough for me to sit inside 2247 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:32.279 of it. And I was able to, like in my imagination, 2248 02:02:32.439 --> 02:02:36.159 I was just imagining instead of me moving around, I 2249 02:02:36.159 --> 02:02:38.439 imagine that it was just fixed in one location and 2250 02:02:38.479 --> 02:02:41.800 everything else was just like just like shifting around and 2251 02:02:41.840 --> 02:02:44.880 I'm just stationary, yeah, you know, And then I just 2252 02:02:44.920 --> 02:02:48.119 imagine that I'm in this very comfortable, like this thing 2253 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:50.520 is specifically built for me, and like I just try 2254 02:02:50.560 --> 02:02:53.359 to take it there. And then I just went super relaxed, 2255 02:02:53.359 --> 02:02:56.640 and then the thoughts just started going and and and 2256 02:02:57.159 --> 02:02:59.159 I used to try not to think about shit, but 2257 02:02:59.239 --> 02:03:01.479 like once something starts, then I'm like, okay, let me 2258 02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:03.640 build on that and let me just see. There was 2259 02:03:03.680 --> 02:03:07.560 a time recently too where I was getting like it 2260 02:03:07.600 --> 02:03:11.960 seemed like I was getting images of like almost symbolically, 2261 02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:15.119 and it felt like almost like a psychic thing going 2262 02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:17.279 on where I was like, okay, what does and I 2263 02:03:17.319 --> 02:03:19.520 forget exactly now the things that I was being shown, 2264 02:03:19.560 --> 02:03:21.680 but I was like, okay, now what does that mean? 2265 02:03:21.720 --> 02:03:23.640 And then I would like see something else, and like 2266 02:03:23.720 --> 02:03:26.479 it was like I was figuring. So maybe, of course, 2267 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:29.880 I'm sure it was just my subconscious or whatever, but 2268 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:31.720 whatever you want to call it, it was still I 2269 02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:34.960 was working with that right right and intentionally. Once it 2270 02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:39.479 started happening, it was very interesting. Well, spy and whatever 2271 02:03:39.520 --> 02:03:40.319 you want to call that. 2272 02:03:40.600 --> 02:03:42.960 I mean, let's just say, for the sake of this conversation, 2273 02:03:43.079 --> 02:03:47.039 let's just say that you're working essentially with intelligence of 2274 02:03:47.079 --> 02:03:51.840 some sort, it seems, and this is the thing that 2275 02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:54.760 it took me so long to figure out. But it 2276 02:03:54.840 --> 02:03:59.479 seems that if we are able to communicate with anything telepathically, 2277 02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:02.800 call it God, call it angels, call it ancestors, call 2278 02:04:02.840 --> 02:04:06.800 it whatever, divine intelligence, whatever, right, whatever it is that 2279 02:04:06.840 --> 02:04:11.119 you're communicating with, it is not loud at all. It 2280 02:04:11.279 --> 02:04:17.760 is extremely subtle, like so subtle that it's barely a breeze. 2281 02:04:18.960 --> 02:04:21.439 But it's but it's like it's almost like if you're 2282 02:04:21.439 --> 02:04:25.479 a flag, you're getting like a little tassel movement, you 2283 02:04:25.520 --> 02:04:27.920 know what I'm saying, Like you're just a little fiber 2284 02:04:28.119 --> 02:04:31.119 that the that the breeze of this consciousness or this 2285 02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:35.960 intelligence is barely fluttering up against. And that's something that 2286 02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:40.520 I noticed. And so which makes sense why you know 2287 02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:47.039 people have praised, you know, people going into meditation, because 2288 02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:50.760 unless you're in that that you know, that meditative state 2289 02:04:50.800 --> 02:04:55.079 where everything finally slows down in your brain, you know, 2290 02:04:55.159 --> 02:04:57.199 you're not so much worried about your thoughts, you're just 2291 02:04:57.560 --> 02:05:01.720 you know, floating in the ocean of consciousness at that point. 2292 02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:06.000 Whenever you're finally there, that's whenever that that soft, little, 2293 02:05:06.079 --> 02:05:10.520 barely fart of a whisper comes through and it it 2294 02:05:10.680 --> 02:05:12.399 shines a light on it, and I think that that's 2295 02:05:12.399 --> 02:05:14.319 what that is. I think that that has to be, 2296 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:18.359 that has to be whatever is out there outside of 2297 02:05:18.600 --> 02:05:23.199 just our mind is what you know, we can that 2298 02:05:23.239 --> 02:05:25.359 we have the ability to communicate with as long as 2299 02:05:25.399 --> 02:05:29.680 we you know, turned down the FM radio and tune 2300 02:05:29.720 --> 02:05:31.479 into XM or whatever. 2301 02:05:31.600 --> 02:05:33.279 Yeah, you know, And like you said, it's a whisper, 2302 02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:35.520 you know. But once you are able to actually notice 2303 02:05:35.560 --> 02:05:38.960 that little wave of the tassel, then you can like 2304 02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:42.600 magnify it, you know, and shed more light on that. Okay, 2305 02:05:42.600 --> 02:05:44.680 so what else can I get from this now, you know? 2306 02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:45.520 In meditation? 2307 02:05:46.119 --> 02:05:49.119 Yeah, yeah, it's a it's freaking interesting, dude. 2308 02:05:49.279 --> 02:05:49.960 It's interesting. 2309 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:52.800 I never I never before doing the show, I never 2310 02:05:52.840 --> 02:05:56.680 really realized just that just that in general, just being 2311 02:05:56.720 --> 02:05:59.520 able to pay attention to those little things, you know. 2312 02:05:59.720 --> 02:06:03.159 And it's like, ultimately, even if you don't even want 2313 02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:05.800 to call it some divine intelligence outside. 2314 02:06:05.399 --> 02:06:07.239 Of you, let's just say it to you. 2315 02:06:07.359 --> 02:06:11.439 Still, you're working with the side of yourself that you 2316 02:06:11.439 --> 02:06:12.399 didn't even know it was there. 2317 02:06:12.720 --> 02:06:17.399 Oh dude, It's it's pretty damn powerful. And I love it. 2318 02:06:17.720 --> 02:06:20.399 I love working with it. And I think that that's 2319 02:06:20.720 --> 02:06:23.960 you know, that's got to be the next step whatever 2320 02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:27.039 it is. It's like, that's how you access it. 2321 02:06:27.439 --> 02:06:31.239 Yeah, And eventually, dude, I think that maybe, let's say 2322 02:06:31.279 --> 02:06:34.520 another hundred years or so, just to be fair, you know, 2323 02:06:34.600 --> 02:06:36.520 I feel like more and more people are going to 2324 02:06:36.560 --> 02:06:40.600 be aware of noticing the little movement of the tassel 2325 02:06:40.640 --> 02:06:42.800 if you will, you know, and I and it's just 2326 02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:43.600 going to be normal. 2327 02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:47.000 I would think regularly that it would be about one 2328 02:06:47.039 --> 02:06:49.399 hundred years, but I say give it fifteen. 2329 02:06:50.119 --> 02:06:51.960 Yeah, because it's exponential, right. 2330 02:06:51.880 --> 02:06:55.720 It's like it's shit speeding up, bro, like it is. 2331 02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:58.560 And maybe it's just a personal thing to me, or 2332 02:06:58.600 --> 02:07:00.840 a personal thing to us, or personal thing to the 2333 02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:05.159 one that's listening that are also experiencing like these in 2334 02:07:05.319 --> 02:07:09.840 extraordinary things that have no explanation. It's like, I think 2335 02:07:09.880 --> 02:07:15.039 that it's it's just happening more often, and. 2336 02:07:14.399 --> 02:07:16.720 In the words of Terrence McKenna, it is just gonna 2337 02:07:16.760 --> 02:07:20.000 get weirder and weirder, and eventually people are gonna have 2338 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:21.119 to start talking about it. 2339 02:07:21.239 --> 02:07:21.399 Yea. 2340 02:07:23.119 --> 02:07:28.000 So yes, Terrence Howard or Terrence Howard. Terrence McKenna was 2341 02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:29.800 a real one too. Terrence Howard's a real one too. 2342 02:07:29.840 --> 02:07:33.199 But yeah, all the Terrences out there, something about them. 2343 02:07:33.279 --> 02:07:35.439 Dude. If you're a Terrence, we're talking to you too. 2344 02:07:35.760 --> 02:07:37.880 My next dog will be named Terrence for sure. 2345 02:07:37.920 --> 02:07:41.359 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 2346 02:07:41.439 --> 02:07:44.520 So anyway, the one, we appreciate you sticking with us 2347 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:47.600 through all of this spiritual madness. Hopefully you got a 2348 02:07:47.600 --> 02:07:50.880 little something from it, at least something symbolic of the 2349 02:07:50.880 --> 02:07:52.920 the orphic egg, and maybe you can find a way 2350 02:07:52.960 --> 02:07:54.680 to apply that to your own life and to your 2351 02:07:54.680 --> 02:07:57.560 own consciousness and keep on breaking that show. 2352 02:07:57.640 --> 02:08:00.880 Baby. That's it. That's it, so you can do anyhow. 2353 02:08:01.039 --> 02:08:03.319 All right, Well we're gonna dip it out, dip out 2354 02:08:03.319 --> 02:08:19.560 of here, and so we'll see you on the flip side, Okay,