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Speaker 1: Congress And brad Winstroup former, I guess I have to
Speaker 1: say now he's listening to me on the program this morning,
Speaker 1: kept saying he was going to be in the studio.
Speaker 1: So it's former, although you can still call him congressman,
Speaker 1: just like you call a retired colonel colonel. And we'll
Speaker 1: hear from lieutenant colonel retired Daniel Davis at eight thirty
Speaker 1: Congressman brad Winstrup, retired colonel colonel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Good to have you in the studio,
Speaker 4: my friend. Always a real pleasure. I left early this morning,
Speaker 4: you know, thinking armageddon, but we did clear some roads
Speaker 4: around here. Yes, it's funny. One of the other congressmen
Speaker 4: is from Minnesota that I talk with a lot and
Speaker 4: actually room with. And he put out a picture of
Speaker 4: the snow and he goes in Minnesota, we call this Monday, right.
Speaker 4: I know, it's great. And you know they have a
Speaker 4: well owed machine for snow removal in in areas where
Speaker 4: they get regular snow. I mean, people were very critical
Speaker 4: of the snow removal here in the Greater Cincinnati area,
Speaker 4: and some areas better than others. I know.
Speaker 1: A former Anderson Township trustee, Drew Pappas, was touting how
Speaker 1: wonderful the roads were over yesterday, But as soon as
Speaker 1: you hit the city limits, of course, you drove into
Speaker 1: a foot tall wall of snow. That's difference between administrations.
Speaker 1: I suppose you can draw your own conclusions on that.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're not used to this kind of snow.
Speaker 1: And the snow I mean, as I was observing yesterday
Speaker 1: coming in Montgomery, Road had been plowed at some point,
Speaker 1: but by the time I got on it a quarter
Speaker 1: to three in the morning, three or four more inches
Speaker 1: of snow had fallen since they first plowed it.
Speaker 4: There's only so much you can do. There's so many
Speaker 4: roads to cover. You've got a roll with it, you know.
Speaker 4: I shoveled the driveway and three times the next day
Speaker 4: like did I and sulted forget it? Yeah, I saw
Speaker 4: it didn't work. I saw my neighbor putting it down,
Speaker 4: and for I was really like, damn it. I really
Speaker 4: wish I had bought myself one of those five gallon
Speaker 4: drum of the and we shoveled the driveway. My son
Speaker 4: and me, and then I got up and Jerry had
Speaker 4: shoveled it before I got home from work yesterday, and
Speaker 4: then he and I shoveled the driveway again with you'd
Speaker 4: get the additional three or four inches that had fallen.
Speaker 4: So three times over the course of basically twenty four hours,
Speaker 4: the driveway had to be shoveled manually, I might add,
Speaker 4: for those folks with snowblowers. And I looked over at
Speaker 4: his driveway. That stuff didn't do anything, and my envy
Speaker 4: immediately disagrees, like, well, I guess I saved myself twenty
Speaker 4: or twenty five bucks by not buying it. Anyway, we
Speaker 4: are going to just as a little tease, let you know,
Speaker 4: Congressman Winster, but I are going to be diving on into,
Speaker 4: among other things, the COVID nineteen report, as well as
Speaker 4: the Democrats version of the COVID nineteen report substantially different
Speaker 4: in terms of well their focus as well as the
Speaker 4: number of pages and level of detail.
Speaker 1: But plague update. We are going to be talking about
Speaker 1: bird flu. And I asked Congress from Winstrip I had
Speaker 1: an article on bird flu. I said, is this going
Speaker 1: to be a problem? And a grave look crossed his face.
Speaker 1: So there may be something to this bird flu thing.
Speaker 1: We'll be talking about that as well, So don't go away.
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Speaker 1: happy Tuesday. Hope you can join the listener lunch High
Speaker 1: Green Brewery, Brentwood. Group of tomorrow will be there about
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. And yes, Congressman winscherp you are invited if
Speaker 1: you can make it. But I understand I'm not putting
Speaker 1: you on the spot. He is in studio, retired now
Speaker 1: enjoying civilian life. I guess sort of kind of maybe
Speaker 1: not trying to find a job. Okay, yeah, he's unemployed. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for brad Winstrop. We're working on that.
Speaker 1: We were talking about over the break before we get
Speaker 1: to the COVID thing. You did express some measure of
Speaker 1: concern that this sort of a growing problem with bird flu.
Speaker 1: Millions of chickens have been slaughtered. It's obviously exists in
Speaker 1: the wild bird population as well. There have been human
Speaker 1: cases of folks that have contracted this bird flu. I
Speaker 1: don't know that they've ever definitively determined that human to
Speaker 1: human exposure is possible, But we can sort of see
Speaker 1: the riding on the wall.
Speaker 4: Has it been you let my listeners know. Well, the
Speaker 4: first I'm just reading right here, thirteen hours ago. First
Speaker 4: US bird flu death is announced in Louisiana and Brian.
Speaker 4: That's death.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about like human to human if I
Speaker 1: breathe on you, like COVID, you're gonna get it kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, that I don't Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's been coming from him.
Speaker 4: I will tell you, you know, as part of the
Speaker 4: Pandemic subcommittee. Yeah, well yeah, I went to Cambodian laos.
Speaker 4: We went to the wet markets. I mean, and you
Speaker 4: got people dressed like their landing on the moon, swabbing
Speaker 4: the birds orally rectillly look, you know, doing surveillance on
Speaker 4: for viruses. Really yeah, you know, it's just too much
Speaker 4: a part of their culture. You're not going to get
Speaker 4: rid of these things. I mean, you don't have you
Speaker 4: I'm surprised. I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the wet markets, and that's part
Speaker 1: of their culture. They're not going to go away. But
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they have the the hazmat suit guys going
Speaker 1: around even inspecting the web areas.
Speaker 4: We're helping with that, the United States USA I D
Speaker 4: is helping with that, and they don't have Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: they don't have enough.
Speaker 1: Did that make it into the Festivus report from Senator
Speaker 1: rant Paul That might have Listen, man, we can disagree
Speaker 1: on the propriety of US paying to do their work,
Speaker 1: but go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well, the idea is one it's a little bit of
Speaker 4: a diplomatic tool because obviously they've huge Chinese influence in
Speaker 4: those countries. They don't even talk about COVID when we
Speaker 4: went there, don't even want to talk about it, and
Speaker 4: for a variety of reasons. For maybe for the same
Speaker 4: reason the Biden administration didn't really want to talk about
Speaker 4: it at least the origins, right, but they're concerned. They're
Speaker 4: very grateful for this help because we're training people to
Speaker 4: be able to do this work on their own. But
Speaker 4: while we were there, there was an eleven year old
Speaker 4: girl who died from this a rural and so able
Speaker 4: to quarantine the area. Pretty well, let me say that
Speaker 4: you mean the bird flow, yes, yes, and able to
Speaker 4: quarantine the area pretty well, but sadly, you know, she
Speaker 4: passed away. But you obviously the first thing you want
Speaker 4: to do is prevent any further spread, and so learning
Speaker 4: more about it. But it was interesting because I happened
Speaker 4: to be talking to Robert Redfield yesterday, who was Trump's
Speaker 4: CDC director, who was basically pushed aside during COVID by Fauci.
Speaker 4: And we'll get into what the future holds for what
Speaker 4: we should be doing. Is he's working on treatments. You know,
Speaker 4: you talk about monoclonal antibodies, anti virals, those are the
Speaker 4: types of things. Because what we learned, and what was
Speaker 4: really relatively ignored, especially by the left, was that the
Speaker 4: vaccine that we developed for COVID, I think it saved
Speaker 4: a lot of lives, but I was in favor of
Speaker 4: it for the people that were dying from COVID, yeah,
Speaker 4: and and nots Yeah. Yeah, you knew who was dying
Speaker 4: from it, and so that's that was the priority, but
Speaker 4: not forcing it on everyone who doesn't didn't seem vulnerable
Speaker 4: to death anyway. But besides that, we knew that you
Speaker 4: could still get COVID with with this vaccine, and I
Speaker 4: think the as you're investing in vaccines, which doctor Redfield
Speaker 4: said that the Biden administration is putting more into vaccine
Speaker 4: production for avian flu or bird flu. Uh, they're working,
Speaker 4: they're working on treatments, right, and so we needed that more.
Speaker 4: And I said that early on, we need to be
Speaker 4: focusing on treatments like anti virals and monoclonal antibodies rather
Speaker 4: than and just this type this type of a vaccine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole discussion of vaccines has really been turned
Speaker 1: on its head because of the COVID nineteen mr NA
Speaker 1: type of vaccine.
Speaker 4: Correct it is? I mean, I know there are conspiracy
Speaker 4: theories out there, there are legitimate studies out there, There's
Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff, but it's you know, you got
Speaker 4: RFK Junior now out there saying, you know, Nick's no vaccines.
Speaker 4: And I've got listeners in my listening audience that think,
Speaker 4: you know, getting a polio vaccine is a bad idea. Now,
Speaker 4: now I'm glad we had a polio vaccine because I
Speaker 4: didn't end up in an iron lung.
Speaker 2: You know, it worked.
Speaker 4: We've eradicated polio thanks to vaccines. So you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not a no vaccine guy.
Speaker 1: But these new mRNA type deals, and especially since it
Speaker 1: didn't help, I mean, you just got done pointing out
Speaker 1: he didn't stop you from getting it, It didn't stop
Speaker 1: you from spreading it. It may have reduced, you know,
Speaker 1: the severity of the illness, but in the final analysis,
Speaker 1: you get sticking something in your body that it didn't
Speaker 1: go through clinical trials expedited. The pharmaceutical company got an
Speaker 1: emergency use authorization, which frees them from any liability associated
Speaker 1: with all of the multitude of problems that have since
Speaker 1: surfaced because the entire planet served as one giant testing event, right,
Speaker 1: basically real quick go ahead.
Speaker 4: Would the FDA have approved the COVID nineteen vaccine knowing
Speaker 4: what we know now if they tried to bring it
Speaker 4: to market, I'll make it even worse for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, good?
Speaker 4: There was political well, we discovered there was political pressure
Speaker 4: to move up the full FDA approval of the COVID
Speaker 4: nineteen vaccine to where two people in the FDA left
Speaker 4: resigned from the FDA overconcerned over concerns that this is
Speaker 4: being sped up. And it was being sped up. And
Speaker 4: if you notice, it was the military who just waited,
Speaker 4: waited because the Secretary Austin Secretary of Austin was getting
Speaker 4: a lot. He wanted to put that mandate in right away,
Speaker 4: and people said, well, it's not even been fully FDA approved.
Speaker 4: So political pressure came in and moved it up by months,
Speaker 4: and that's why people resigned from the FDA. They did that.
Speaker 4: The next day he came out with the mandate. All right, pause,
Speaker 4: because I know my listeners are just screaming at the
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Speaker 1: Why how did this become political? I'm gonna ask that question.
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Speaker 1: Thomas in studio Congressman former retired brad Winstrip. All right,
Speaker 1: the burning question you summarized that you pointed out they
Speaker 1: rushed the COVID nineteen vaccine. In fact, people quit the
Speaker 1: FDA because of concerns over rushing it too and.
Speaker 4: Making people take it too soon. We didn't test it enough.
Speaker 4: We're worried about it. What might the consequences be? But
Speaker 4: political forces came to bear and they advanced it and
Speaker 4: pushed it out too soon. How did this become political
Speaker 4: and why would this such urgency to get this vaccine
Speaker 4: now when they had no idea whether or not it
Speaker 4: was going to be harmful to humanity. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's really bizarre in that way, Brian, And you're exactly right.
Speaker 4: I mean, emergency use was put out and it was
Speaker 4: restricted to who should get the vaccine. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think Operation work Speed was successful, but people weren't honest
Speaker 4: for what had been created. You know, you'd hear these
Speaker 4: peel this is safe and effective. You don't know that,
Speaker 4: you know, you know, out of those words when the
Speaker 4: vaccine has not gone through proper clinical trials. Wear it.
Speaker 4: It went through, It went through good clinical trials, but
Speaker 4: what it proved was it's not one hundred percent safe
Speaker 4: and effective. And that's what people heard, right, people heard,
Speaker 4: you know, oh, this thing is safe and effective. I
Speaker 4: went through this with the ranking member Democrat ranking member
Speaker 4: who was a physician, and I said, you shouldn't say
Speaker 4: that because people here one hundred percent and it's not
Speaker 4: because we know from the trials, people still got COVID,
Speaker 4: they were less likely to be hospitalized, they were less
Speaker 4: likely to die, So let's use it for the most vulnerable.
Speaker 4: We didn't go out and protect the most vulnerable. All
Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's like we're pushing this on everybody.
Speaker 4: That didn't make any sense, and so emergency use was
Speaker 4: one thing. But the Biden administration wanted to just get
Speaker 4: it out there. They put pressure on the FDA to
Speaker 4: speed it up, speed it up, fully approve it. Why
Speaker 4: I don't know, because they wanted to push it out.
Speaker 4: Like the Secretary of Defense, General Austin, he was waiting,
Speaker 4: just waiting, and the public pressure saying well, you shouldn't
Speaker 4: put it out is a mandate. He's the American military
Speaker 4: fighting force was pushing to hurry up and inject all
Speaker 4: of our fighting force. And what happens? I mean, think
Speaker 4: about it. If there was something far more devastating associated
Speaker 4: with the COVID nineteen vaccine that we only learned six, eight,
Speaker 4: ten months after the fact, our entire fighting force could
Speaker 4: have been potentially wiped out. Why because they wanted to
Speaker 4: rush and hurry up and oculate everyone. That doesn't make
Speaker 4: any sense to me. Well, these look our fighting force
Speaker 4: are healthy. People are the least likely to succomb and COVID.
Speaker 4: I mean, for most people. I had a terrible battle
Speaker 4: that we had it for six weeks. I was miserable.
Speaker 4: It sucked. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Speaker 4: And I think it's because I just got to know
Speaker 4: with my last cancer treatment, my immune system was knocked out.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. I was co morbid condition at the time.
Speaker 4: But most of the children who got it it was
Speaker 4: like getting a cold, common cold. No one of the
Speaker 4: vast majority people who got COVID died from it. It
Speaker 4: was the very, very sick, the co morbid conditioned folks.
Speaker 4: So why rush it out? It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4: Now I'm pushing it on children, And fortunately our pediatrician
Speaker 4: for my kids said, I don't see where the benefits
Speaker 4: outweigh the risk. And as I was talking to doctor
Speaker 4: Redfield just yesterday, former CDC director, he said, there's a
Speaker 4: large number of vaccine injuries out there and they haven't
Speaker 4: been processed and bedded. You know, you don't have the
Speaker 4: cardiomyopathy kind of stuff from the other all variety of things. Brian,
Speaker 4: you know, we saw I mean, there was a member
Speaker 4: of Congress and she said that from her vaccines. As
Speaker 4: a child, she got gian Bray syndrome. You know, she
Speaker 4: most people it goes away, but you know, she had that.
Speaker 4: She had those concerns, but she did get vaccinated after
Speaker 4: talking to her doctor. She had a choice. So she
Speaker 4: was probably vulnerable with other medical conditions that the doctor said,
Speaker 4: I think you should the benefits out where they're in
Speaker 4: with our kids and with our military.
Speaker 2: No one knew.
Speaker 4: No one knew they they weren't they weren't vulnerable. I
Speaker 4: was told that I needed a booster to go to Germany.
Speaker 4: I had two doses of Pfizer and I got COVID later.
Speaker 4: The only reason I knew I got COVID is because
Speaker 4: I couldn't smell garlic salt. And so when they told
Speaker 4: me I needed a booster, I said, let's check my
Speaker 4: antibodies and tea cells. Well on the Capitol Hill, they said, oh,
Speaker 4: we don't, we can't do tea cells. I said, okay,
Speaker 4: it's check my antibodies. A strong number was forty. My
Speaker 4: number was eight hundred and twenty one. No doctor's gonna
Speaker 4: and I survived. And I survived COVID right didn't even
Speaker 4: know I had it.
Speaker 1: Well, And that's the other thing. Follow up T cell
Speaker 1: check from me. They it was off the charts. I
Speaker 1: mean it was like ten thousand or twelve thousand. I
Speaker 1: mean I had more T cells that had fought off
Speaker 1: COVID after I had a naturally occurring about of the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen experience. My body has a natural immunity, which
Speaker 1: is duh, kind of the way God created us. Will
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Speaker 1: Well we started early, but early is better when you're
Speaker 1: talking about the origins of COVID nineteen. With Congressman Brad
Speaker 1: Winster now retired, he's out looking for a job. So
Speaker 1: if you see him hanging out the home depot, be
Speaker 1: sure and pick him up.
Speaker 4: He needs he needs to.
Speaker 1: Work anyhow, Congressan Winstrip, It's been a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: in here. We've been talking about We started with a
Speaker 1: little bird flu, which you said does represent a bit
Speaker 1: of a problem and could be a concern for us
Speaker 1: as we move forward, of course, on the heels of
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, which is fresh in everyone's recollection. You discussed
Speaker 1: specifically the rush to get that vaccine out before it
Speaker 1: had been, in my opinion, adequately tested. The idea that
Speaker 1: the folks in the America's military were anxious to hurriedly
Speaker 1: bring it out and inject our military forces early. That
Speaker 1: raised so many red flags for me. We talked about
Speaker 1: the idea that you know, American military forces and the
Speaker 1: age group that they're in along with children, and the
Speaker 1: vast majority of humanity was not really debilitated by getting
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. It was like going through the flu. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are people who got bad cases of it, but
Speaker 1: this rush to get it out it became politicized, and
Speaker 1: so our conversation moved over to how did this become politicized?
Speaker 1: The old idea of COVID nineteen and what started in nature.
Speaker 1: It started the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It became verboten
Speaker 1: topic online. It was removed from social media. If you
Speaker 1: talked about this starting from the Wuhan Institute of Technology
Speaker 1: and a Virology and I don't understand why, what big
Speaker 1: difference is there if we talk about it point we
Speaker 1: were working with the Chinese. You want to call it
Speaker 1: gain a Function research or you want to call it
Speaker 1: widget research. We're there, We're at the Institute of Virology,
Speaker 1: American scientists. We are funding it with money.
Speaker 4: That is a fact, Jack, How did that become a
Speaker 4: verboten topic of conversation to even talk about it when
Speaker 4: everyone sort of found, you know, figured out pretty quickly
Speaker 4: early on that we have a physical presence there. This
Speaker 4: isn't like some secret Chinese lab like the Iranians building
Speaker 4: nuclear weapons underground. Man, we know they're over there, but
Speaker 4: we don't have guys in there unless they're spies. We
Speaker 4: have a physical presence and we got money in our hands.
Speaker 4: Handing it over to the Chinese government, said well that
Speaker 4: part is exactly right. We were funding gain a Function
Speaker 4: research in Wuhan, China. And doctor Fauci can say, well,
Speaker 4: that isn't the right definition, and this and that that's wordsmithing.
Speaker 4: But everyone has a pretty good understanding of what was
Speaker 4: taking place, especially your listeners. I would say, I'm pretty
Speaker 4: educated as following it as best they could. You know.
Speaker 4: Let's let me let me go back a little bit,
Speaker 4: just on a lot of things. I went to China
Speaker 4: probably eight years ago before this type of stuff ever
Speaker 4: blew up. I can't go there now. They don't really
Speaker 4: like me these days. But you don't want to go,
Speaker 4: you know. I don't know about yeah, so, but you know,
Speaker 4: I said, I talked to him. I said, look, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of things that we can do in the
Speaker 4: health fields together. When I get my journals, my surgical journals, right,
Speaker 4: you know, there are articles written by Chinese surgeons. You know,
Speaker 4: this is non controversial stuff, right, and you can take
Speaker 4: a look at this. At the time, I argued, quit
Speaker 4: sending fentanyl to the United States of America, right, but
Speaker 4: you know, to you know, fast forward, our State Department
Speaker 4: in two thousand and five had said publicly that China
Speaker 4: was working on bioweapons. In twenty fifteen, China, their Academy
Speaker 4: of Military Medical Science, wrote a book talking about coronaviruses
Speaker 4: as bioweapons. There were public comments by Chinese scientists over
Speaker 4: the years, some stating they had concerns about coronaviruses being bioweapons,
Speaker 4: and others just saying yeah, they could be sure. Right,
Speaker 4: So you see them talking about it. We've admitted that
Speaker 4: they were working on this, and where are they doing
Speaker 4: this in Wuhan, China. Yeah, okay, you have the Wuhan
Speaker 4: Institute of Rology, which, once COVID became a pandemic, was
Speaker 4: taken over by the military. You had China covering things
Speaker 4: up from Vergaan, not letting the WHO in President g
Speaker 4: telling President Trump telling that Doctor Tedrose at the WHO
Speaker 4: saying hey, we've got this under control. It's under control.
Speaker 3: No it was not.
Speaker 4: He restricted travel, He restricted travel within the country. President
Speaker 4: she did, yeah, but allowed it to go out internationally.
Speaker 4: You know. So all the red flags are there. So
Speaker 4: let's go to what you were talking about about us
Speaker 4: doing research there. So EcoHealth Alliance is the company, if
Speaker 4: you will, that was doing the gain of function research
Speaker 4: in China. They went to DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects
Speaker 4: Agency to try and get the grant and they were
Speaker 4: turned down. As we go back into their emails, and
Speaker 4: this is doctor Peter Dazak of EcoHealth Alliance. So try
Speaker 4: to follow the bouncing ball here. I know a lot
Speaker 4: of players here and working with doctor Ralph Barrick in
Speaker 4: North Carolina who in twenty fifteen wrote the article published
Speaker 4: the article with doctor Zenglisi and China about how they
Speaker 4: have created kaimera chimera. If you look it up, it's
Speaker 4: the horseman right. You've taken two things and put them
Speaker 4: together made one. The idea was you take parts of
Speaker 4: different viruses and put them together. They showed that capability
Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen. So here's Peter Dazik of EcoHealth Alliance
Speaker 4: in emails with Ralph Barrack in North Carolina and Zenglishi
Speaker 4: in China saying we're going to go to DARPA this
Speaker 4: is in our Defense Advanced Research for a grant to
Speaker 4: do this gain of function research. He goes, We're going
Speaker 4: to tell them this is in the emails. We're going
Speaker 4: to tell them that we're going to do all this
Speaker 4: in North Carolina. But once we get the money, we'll
Speaker 4: do this in China at a BSL two lab okay,
Speaker 4: which is not as safe. There's three and four they're safer.
Speaker 4: We'll do it at a BSL two and save money.
Speaker 4: Ralph Berrick in North Carolina, to his credit, says, I'm
Speaker 4: not doing that right, I'm not doing that. This needs
Speaker 4: to be done at three or four, etc. Daazik. In
Speaker 4: the back of my head, I'm thinking, no, this does
Speaker 4: not need to be done. Stop doing this.
Speaker 2: But at all.
Speaker 4: If you're going to do it, though, you got to
Speaker 4: have it at a high level lab, not a leaky lab. Yes,
Speaker 4: so yeah, which we know yes, had leaks. So he
Speaker 4: goes to DARPA and says, no, we're gonna spells it out.
Speaker 4: We want to do this in China. DARPA says no, no, no, no, going.
Speaker 1: Back to the whole idea of bio weapons, it's too
Speaker 1: risky because you're you're creating this chimera thing which allows
Speaker 1: the manipulation of these viruses to maybe specifically target certain
Speaker 1: select people like exactly Jews or white people, or Northern
Speaker 1: Europeans or black people or I mean our DNA is
Speaker 1: broken down differently.
Speaker 4: I mean they're doing cancer research. It's mind blowing tailor
Speaker 4: made to attack your specific cancer. And if they can
Speaker 4: do that, they can tailor make one of these these
Speaker 4: biologic weapons to kill a certain segment of society while
Speaker 4: freeing everybody else. So DARPA under defense says, no, too risky,
Speaker 4: We're not funding a grant like that. So now he
Speaker 4: goes over to NIH National Institute's Health who runs that,
Speaker 4: Francis Collins, and this would come through NIAI D who
Speaker 4: runs that, Tony Falci, Tony Fauci.
Speaker 2: All right, So.
Speaker 4: In twenty eleven, Collins and Fauci had written articles saying,
Speaker 4: therefore gain of function research and why do they want
Speaker 4: to do that? Their basic premise, if I can break
Speaker 4: it down for the listeners, is that if we can
Speaker 4: create a virus that may arrive from nature, that may
Speaker 4: arrive from nature, and have the cure for it, then
Speaker 4: there's nothing we can't cure if it aris okay. Twenty twelve,
Speaker 4: in an interview with Tony Fauci, someone I asks, after
Speaker 4: understanding more about gain of function research, says, well, aren't
Speaker 4: you concerned that it might get out of a lab
Speaker 4: create a pandemic. Doctor Fauci's response was, and I'm paraphrasing, well,
Speaker 4: I think the benefits out weigh the risk. I think
Speaker 4: it's very low risk that it would get out of
Speaker 4: the lab, and the benefits out weigh the risk. He's
Speaker 4: never contradicted that he's never gone back and said, well,
Speaker 4: maybe I should have thought differently about this. No whoops moment,
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, I had no not allowed to
Speaker 4: go that and condemn yourself. But anyway, so here we are,
Speaker 4: so the money goes out. What's even worse, Brian, and
Speaker 4: this is what we discovered through this report period, is
Speaker 4: how did this grant get out? What's the process? Doctor
Speaker 4: Fauci tells us in this transcribed interview. He said, well,
Speaker 4: you know, people propose these things, they go to a
Speaker 4: committee here at NIAI D Advisory committee if you will,
Speaker 4: they review it, and boy, once they approve it, I
Speaker 4: just sign it. At one point he said, he said,
Speaker 4: we have billions of dollars of grants coming through here.
Speaker 4: I can't know what they all are. So who's responsible?
Speaker 4: So he said, but look, EcoHealth Alliance wasn't complying with
Speaker 4: the grant. They were supposed to do periodic reporting of
Speaker 4: what they were doing and especially if they created something
Speaker 4: that increased in pathogenicity in other words, became more dangerous.
Speaker 4: That happened, and they didn't do it. They were two
Speaker 4: years late with their report. All kinds of excuses. Well,
Speaker 4: in a world in.
Speaker 1: A government that is this big and fishing out this
Speaker 1: much money and has no idea where the money is
Speaker 1: coming from, or where it's going or what it's being
Speaker 1: used for. That's how we end up with shrimp on
Speaker 1: treadmill studies. And that's how we end up with a
Speaker 1: Department of Defense that can't even pass an audit eight
Speaker 1: times in a row. How the hell is anyone expected
Speaker 1: EcoHealth Alliance the report on its own oversight?
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 4: Is there someone saying around tapping their fingers, going, hey,
Speaker 4: you got health as the Lions, but is behind it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be a report to us by now? And
Speaker 4: that was that person doesn't exist. That was my exact
Speaker 4: question to doctor Fauci. I said, does a red flag
Speaker 4: go up when they're not adhering to the tenants of
Speaker 4: the of the grant? And he said, oh, that's over
Speaker 4: in compliance. I don't have anything to do with that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I said, well, how about who's got oversight over
Speaker 4: a lab of the lab in an adversarial country that's
Speaker 4: doing dangerous research? Who has oversight over that? And he said, oh,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even know how to do that. Let's continue
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Speaker 1: Knee deep in the COVID report, Congressman retired brad winster
Speaker 1: Benz Studio, And of course he's sitting in front of
Speaker 1: the how many pages five hundred.
Speaker 4: Five hundred and twenty pages report and seventeen pages or
Speaker 4: recommendations for the future, which I hope the next Congress
Speaker 4: takes up.
Speaker 1: Okay, because we got bird flue of fairness in the
Speaker 1: face and that may or may not be you know,
Speaker 1: need these recommendations, but we are learning a whole lot
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the lies that have been spread
Speaker 1: on its probably more lies than COVID nineteen cases out
Speaker 1: in the world. They rushed the vaccine, They denied that
Speaker 1: this was a lab created phenomenon, and in fact, there
Speaker 1: were people that did the research you mentioned off air,
Speaker 1: the FBI. They did, they looked into this extentensively, and
Speaker 1: there were many people who concluded this was at least potentially,
Speaker 1: if not likely, created in a lab. Now, with given
Speaker 1: the history of what you've explained to my listening audience
Speaker 1: and me about working with and these chimeras and the
Speaker 1: creation of things that make them more communicable for the
Speaker 1: purposes of bioweapons, scary who came up with the whole
Speaker 1: idea this came out of a wet market? And why
Speaker 1: given the viability and the reality of all the prior
Speaker 1: reporting and the admission that this work.
Speaker 4: Is being done and has been done in the name
Speaker 4: of looking for bioweapons, why the absolute outright denial and
Speaker 4: why the ignoring of what the FBI concluded, which this
Speaker 4: this came out of the one in studibrology. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: the confidence in that from the Intelligence Committee, which I've
Speaker 4: served on for ten years, has increased with things we find.
Speaker 4: So keep in mind that our report as we put
Speaker 4: it out is unclass I hope that there's other things
Speaker 4: that will be declassified in the next because you know
Speaker 4: they exist, you just can't talk about correct. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, more compelling and help make
Speaker 4: the case that perfect came from the lab. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: let's let's talk about motive for a second, please you.
Speaker 4: So China has every motive to say this came from nature.
Speaker 4: They don't want to They don't want to be responsible
Speaker 4: for these millions and millions of deaths, right and you know,
Speaker 4: you know, first of all, no country wants to say, hey,
Speaker 4: come visit China, spend your money here. Guess what, We've
Speaker 4: got a virus that's killing people by the millions, Right,
Speaker 4: So they they have all kinds of motives to cover
Speaker 4: it up because they don't want to talk about their
Speaker 4: buy a weapons program. They wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 4: Then they don't want to be at fault for any
Speaker 4: of this. Right. Then you have in the United States,
Speaker 4: you know, what's the motive here, Well, we were funding
Speaker 4: gain function research in China, and we have top level
Speaker 4: government scientists who were in favor of this type of research,
Speaker 4: and so it behooves them to say that it came
Speaker 4: from nature. Now you can go further into what we
Speaker 4: discovered in the report is those that came out and
Speaker 4: wrote what's known as proximal origins, where a group of
Speaker 4: international scientists who do gain a function research or invested
Speaker 4: in this type of research, so they write an article
Speaker 4: that says it came from nature. They were put together
Speaker 4: and assembled by, amongst others, doctor Fauci and doctor Collins,
Speaker 4: and a gentleman named Jeremy Farrar, which I won't get
Speaker 4: into his background, but they put this group together. When
Speaker 4: we get their internal messages, whether it's slack messages or
Speaker 4: their emails, they're saying that this thing looks engineered. They're
Speaker 4: saying it looks engineered.
Speaker 1: And they find the scenes are saying it looks engineers
Speaker 1: among themselves are saying it looks engineered out loud. Though
Speaker 1: they're saying it came from that we market, they.
Speaker 4: Say, we can't rule out it's engineered. They're saying all
Speaker 4: these things, and they said Christian Anderson said in his
Speaker 4: internal messaging, said, my focus is to disprove the lab
Speaker 4: leak theory. They say, imagine what this will do to
Speaker 4: international harmony if someone of credibility says that this came
Speaker 4: from the lab. These are the things they're saying. These
Speaker 4: are the things that they were saying in their internal emails.
Speaker 4: So they have a lot of motive to say that
Speaker 4: it came from nature, so they write proximal origins. Doctor Fauci,
Speaker 4: probably without the president or vice president even knowing, suddenly
Speaker 4: steps up on the White House lawn and says, I've
Speaker 4: got this report just in and by the way, it
Speaker 4: wasn't peer reviewed, and it was full of assumptions, and
Speaker 4: it says this this came from nature, and you know,
Speaker 4: here's how, and a bunch of scientific gobbledy goop. But
Speaker 4: they completely ignored the idea that it could have come
Speaker 4: from the lab. And doctor Fauci said, this is definitive.
Speaker 4: These are brilliant evolutionary virologists, et cetera. And so trying
Speaker 4: to make it case closed. And that's only after doctor
Speaker 4: Collins said to doctor Fauci in an email, can't you
Speaker 4: do more to put down this lab leak my word,
Speaker 4: And the very same day that he says this on
Speaker 4: the White House Lawn, the author, doctor Christian Anderson, is
Speaker 4: saying in his emails, we still can't rule out that
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Speaker 1: That's how I described this conversation with now retired Congressman
Speaker 1: Brian Winsterrip going over the report that was released, the
Speaker 1: declassified report, and without giving me any specifics, I don't
Speaker 1: get any extra information off air, at least regard with
Speaker 1: regard to the sensitive nature of the unreleased information. Congressman
Speaker 1: Winstrip is optimist, or at least hopeful that ultimately you
Speaker 1: and I will get the unreleased version of this report,
Speaker 1: because everything we're learning this morning is absolutely it's just
Speaker 1: it's frightening quite frankly, do you believe on any level, Congressman,
Speaker 1: after interviewing all these people and going through this whole
Speaker 1: chain of events.
Speaker 4: That, given.
Speaker 1: The bio weapons research that's being done in China and
Speaker 1: this is a component of it, that this virus may
Speaker 1: have been released intentionally, recognizing as we must if you
Speaker 1: look at the statistics, you know, global population is seven
Speaker 1: plus billion people. A lot of people got sick with coronavirus,
Speaker 1: me included, but a tiny like flu like percentage died
Speaker 1: from it. That they would release it intentionally to see
Speaker 1: how quickly it spread, to see what kind of you know,
Speaker 1: reaction the world had, just to see, you know, if
Speaker 1: it sort of kind of worked, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: And and they're sick minded enough, remember they you know,
Speaker 4: they promote and demand abortion. They don't know, I know,
Speaker 4: respect for human life. Adolf Hitler is a great example.
Speaker 4: He'll exterminate an entire population of people if he got
Speaker 4: the there are evil, and there's evil in the world,
Speaker 4: and they're part of it enhance his tools of power,
Speaker 4: right right, Yeah, so no, I think I don't think
Speaker 4: that's the case. I do. I do think from everything
Speaker 4: I've seen that the lab leak theory is most likely
Speaker 4: and it was an accidental leak, and I'll just leave
Speaker 4: it at that, But I tend to go with that.
Speaker 4: But the wet Market, for example, I think was the
Speaker 4: first super spread spreader. There were cases before the Wet Market,
Speaker 4: and you even had well.
Speaker 1: Once it gets released from the lab, if it's out
Speaker 1: in humanity and there's one person maybe that worked at
Speaker 1: the Institute of Virology, that went over to the Wet
Speaker 1: Market gets some dinner, that's where the heavy concentration of
Speaker 1: people in closed quarters are, right. Yeah, It's like it'd
Speaker 1: be like going to a concert and standing around breathing
Speaker 1: on everybody. Yeah, no, exactly right. And you never found
Speaker 1: an animal that had well. Yeah, so you know, you
Speaker 1: can go through all those animals, you'd think you'd find
Speaker 1: it in one of them. And I'm sure China would
Speaker 1: love it. Early on, I thought I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if China injects some animals with COVID. Well, the panglin,
Speaker 1: that's a whole nother story because it's the receptor binding domain.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start talking over the Lord. It's a receptor
Speaker 1: binding domain of COVID nineteen that matches that of a
Speaker 1: of a pangolin corona virus. The backbone of COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: matches largely that of certain bat viruses. But the key,
Speaker 1: the key to make it more infectious was adding a
Speaker 1: furein cleavage site. Fure and cleavage site is kind of
Speaker 1: like R two D two's arm right, when R two
Speaker 1: D two can stick that arm at and get into
Speaker 1: any system. Okay, The fure and cleavage site is what
Speaker 1: the receptor binding momone, It sticks to your cell, but
Speaker 1: the fure and cleavage site penetrates yourself.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what made it infectious to use. Yes, made
Speaker 4: it much more infectious to you, especially cells in our
Speaker 4: respiratory system. Okay, So that was the Eco Health Alliance
Speaker 4: proposal they wanted to do. To do that, hey, let's
Speaker 4: put a cleavage site in there. Yes, like, hey, what's this?
Speaker 4: You know it's it's Lord Almighty. It's really dangerous and
Speaker 4: you know, look good intentions or not by anybody, I
Speaker 4: think the fright should have been there and I will
Speaker 4: tell you today and people will agree with me. Gain
Speaker 4: a function research can be done through AI. You can
Speaker 4: take the sequences the viruses that were getting from animals
Speaker 4: through surveillance and through wastewater, et cetera, and take a
Speaker 4: look at them, and AI can then put it supplant
Speaker 4: different receptor binding domains or if you're in cleavage site
Speaker 4: and have a good idea of predictability of whether this
Speaker 4: may emerge from nature and how infectious it may be.
Speaker 4: We don't need to be truly making the virus. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know what? And I just one great positive thumbs
Speaker 4: up for artificial intelligence along those lines. Stick around.
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Speaker 1: is out, the declassified version. We seem to have almost
Speaker 1: one hundred percent definitively proven that it was the Wuhuan.
Speaker 1: In pseudivirology, gain of function. Research was being done, we
Speaker 1: were paying for it.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 1: This is well documented in the emails of exchange between
Speaker 1: the principles behind the scenes, even though they denied it outright.
Speaker 1: The main reason I have come away with, and this
Speaker 1: is kind of where I want to boil it down,
Speaker 1: Congress from Winstrom. This is really kind of all about money.
Speaker 1: If you find out or if we the American people
Speaker 1: or the world finds out there doing gain of function research.
Speaker 1: Then the grants might stop. If COVID nineteen would spread
Speaker 1: globally and did kill millions of people, I will grant
Speaker 1: you been sick in hundreds of millions of people, and
Speaker 1: it was created in a lab, we might be.
Speaker 4: Inclined to say, you know what, stop that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: no more grant money for you. This is that? Can
Speaker 4: I boil it down to that sort of minimalist conclusion, Well,
Speaker 4: it's it's not just grant money, you know What's what's
Speaker 4: China's motive. They don't want to be blamed for this,
Speaker 4: even if it came from nature, because they want people
Speaker 4: to come and visit China. So it's their tourist industry. Sure,
Speaker 4: and it's and it's it's hurt their economy, you know.
Speaker 4: So then you get to our government. We've been funding
Speaker 4: gain of function research. So you don't want to say
Speaker 4: it came from from no connection with it, from all
Speaker 4: ad we were there, Oh my god? Right, right, So
Speaker 4: you want to back away from it, you'd rather say
Speaker 4: it came from nature. The international scientists that are doing
Speaker 4: this type of research, as well as our funding of it,
Speaker 4: as we have have, have a motive because they get
Speaker 4: their money through grants, and so you know, look, we
Speaker 4: just found so many things, Brian, through this whole process.
Speaker 4: You have doctor doctor Morins, who's Fauci's deputy, talking to
Speaker 4: doctor Dazik, who runs EcoHealth Alliance, who's doing the gain
Speaker 4: of function research in China. We found in his emails
Speaker 4: his official email. He says, start emailing me on my
Speaker 4: Gmail because these think it he blanks, are FOI me
Speaker 4: Freedom of Information Act where we can get his official documents.
Speaker 4: And he said, and I'll and I'll delete anything I
Speaker 4: don't want In the New York Times, I mean, and
Speaker 4: then you dig further. I mean, every rock we looked under,
Speaker 4: we found another rock to look under. And it's just
Speaker 4: really disappointing that this is our government today and our
Speaker 4: agencies need to be brought under control in a big way.
Speaker 1: Well, and that is a tough row to ho. It's
Speaker 1: certainly something worth trying at least, because right now there
Speaker 1: is zero accountability. Very quickly here, before we go to
Speaker 1: the break, we just identified in a sort of summary form,
Speaker 1: various reasons why we were all collectively lied to and
Speaker 1: the motivations behind it. How about corruption, we know the
Speaker 1: Biden administration has been paid handsomely millions of dollars by
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, funneled through Hunter Biden. For example,
Speaker 1: remember this, you know, this whole discussion reminds me the
Speaker 1: fifty one, you know, CIA operating for intelligence intelligence that
Speaker 1: oh this has all the year marks of Russian inclusion.
Speaker 1: We knew that was a lie, and they knew that
Speaker 1: was a lie when they wrote it. This sounds a
Speaker 1: lot like that. But in terms of one other motivation,
Speaker 1: not wanting to blame the Chinese regardless of our fingerprints
Speaker 1: being on and connected with the research, is I mean
Speaker 1: any thought that maybe certain members of Congress or the
Speaker 1: president is corrupt and the Chinese had the goods on
Speaker 1: them for example.
Speaker 4: Well, this is brad Winstrop talking now, Brian. I mean
Speaker 4: just by looking at the things that we do know,
Speaker 4: you know, Hunter Biden was getting money from people all
Speaker 4: around the world, you know, through his using his father's
Speaker 4: name and influence through that, and you know we got
Speaker 4: information and how much for the big guy? Well who's
Speaker 4: the big guy? You know, it's you know everyone can
Speaker 4: you know know it's Joe Biden. Now he's gone and
Speaker 4: pardoned his son for the last century. Perhaps I'm exaggerating there,
Speaker 4: but you know, anything he's done, you know, but that
Speaker 4: doesn't mean you still can't investigate, and you still can't
Speaker 4: get him under oath for things you just may not
Speaker 4: be able to prosecute him for him, is what I understand.
Speaker 4: But certainly there's they're they're compromised. They're compromised in so
Speaker 4: many ways. The family is at least and so whether
Speaker 4: it's the whole administration or an administration is protecting the
Speaker 4: compromise President. You know, it's it's interesting that Joe Biden
Speaker 4: met with President she not that long ago and there
Speaker 4: was no reporting that they he even brought up COVID.
Speaker 4: He didn't even say, like, you know how your people doing,
Speaker 4: you know how how you guys you know, managing with
Speaker 4: COVID and and the fallout of COVID. Still at this
Speaker 4: point you don't you don't even talk about about COVID.
Speaker 4: So you know, there's there's is the notion that the
Speaker 4: Biden family is compromised and so let's just let but
Speaker 4: let this be water under the bridge. Those were Adam
Speaker 4: shiftsword two years ago with their report two years ago
Speaker 4: from the intelligence many was that well, let's just not
Speaker 4: look for the origins of COVID. It's water under the bridge,
Speaker 4: and it's like, come on, you know, this is not
Speaker 4: this is not how it works in America. You know
Speaker 4: the American people, you know, are the government. They are
Speaker 4: the owners of the government. They are and you know,
Speaker 4: those who do not study the mistakes of the past
Speaker 4: are destined to repeat them, which is why you look
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Speaker 1: You could talk for hours and hours with the tire
Speaker 1: congressman Wednesday about this COVID report which just came out. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's going to give you the details on it because
Speaker 1: you can read it for yourself. It's broken down, it's
Speaker 1: got footnotes, it's got references. But real quickly, before we
Speaker 1: get to that information, which I know you want to
Speaker 1: pass along to the listeners in summary fashion, why the
Speaker 1: reluctance to allow different treatment methodologies. We have a new
Speaker 1: virus that's exploded in the planet. It's COVID nineteen. I
Speaker 1: know they came out with this emergency use authorization, you know,
Speaker 1: a pharmaceutical which the pharmaceutical company was paid handsomely for.
Speaker 1: But why not all these options? I mean, we've been
Speaker 1: using holistic medicine and other forms of medicine, off label
Speaker 1: use medicines forever, as long as they've been around. We've
Speaker 1: been trying different things. But you mentioned using ivermectin out
Speaker 1: loud or mentioned it on social media.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. It was as if you uttered the
Speaker 4: N word or something. You were banned. You were dismissed
Speaker 4: as a crack and a quack horse medicine. But as
Speaker 4: it turns out, it actually worked. It worked for a
Speaker 4: lot of people, and there are scientific paths to explain
Speaker 4: how this may have had some benefit for people with
Speaker 4: both of those and I can't recite it offhand, but
Speaker 4: I looked it up. You know, you could see that
Speaker 4: there was a potential there. Doctors were doing no harm.
Speaker 4: These were FDA approved drugs, and yeah, they were using
Speaker 4: it off label. Well, we did a lot of things
Speaker 4: off label all the time, right. I used nitroglycerine, you know,
Speaker 4: for the for the lower extremity, why to increase circulation,
Speaker 4: which is what nitroglacian does for the heart, So i'd
Speaker 4: use patches or people have diminish circulation and it's not
Speaker 4: approved for that, but I know scientifically it has an effect, yes,
Speaker 4: and no one ever questioned me on it. And all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we're doing these things when people are desperate.
Speaker 4: And here's the problem, Brian, And this is what really
Speaker 4: bothers me as a physician is you have these people.
Speaker 4: They may be MD, but they haven't stood over a
Speaker 4: patient in years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, off air, you mentioned Fauci specifically, and he tried
Speaker 1: to suggest he had some connection with patient care.
Speaker 4: Zero, he wasn't. He wasn't treating patients. You know, he's
Speaker 4: not a diagnosed diation. H Rich McCormick, freshman member of
Speaker 4: Congress who emergency physician, and he was standing over patients
Speaker 4: trying to save their lives. And so, you know, if
Speaker 4: you have something that's not going to do any harm
Speaker 4: but may bring people around and help them, why would
Speaker 4: you not use that, especially when you have nothing else
Speaker 4: exactly and you know, again, do no harm. But you know,
Speaker 4: and there's also we've got laws on right to try.
Speaker 4: Patients can say no, you know, but if the doctor
Speaker 4: explains to you. But you know what, we were eliminating
Speaker 4: the doctor from the equation. Yeah, think about that. The
Speaker 4: mandate totally takes the doctor out of the equation and
Speaker 4: the pharmacies too. They were told they were not a
Speaker 4: lot of fill prescriptions for certain medications. Oh, and it
Speaker 4: was pharmacy. But I had doctors I've known and worked
Speaker 4: with for years, primary care doctors mostly called me and said,
Speaker 4: you know, I can't afford to lose my license right now,
Speaker 4: and I'm getting these threatening calls. I still have a
Speaker 4: couple more kids to get through college, and this is
Speaker 4: what's happening. You know. I called the governor because you
Speaker 4: know a lot of these things are state controlled. Well,
Speaker 4: they are state controlled, and we got to be careful
Speaker 4: that we're not in Ohio not doing this to our providers.
Speaker 4: It's so bizarre. I can't, for the life of me
Speaker 4: understand where someone would have the nerve to stand up
Speaker 4: and say you can't prescribe that off label. You know,
Speaker 4: and doctor Fauci, you know, he compared it, if you
Speaker 4: take the horse dose of ivermectin, yes, it's going to
Speaker 4: be a problem. You take the horse dose of anything.
Speaker 4: It's there the specific drug that's hurting you. It's the quantity.
Speaker 4: It's the quantity. And if you prescribe a human dose
Speaker 4: that's safe and can be effective, certainly for parasites, then
Speaker 4: you should be able to prescribe it and hope for
Speaker 4: the best. And many people claim, you know, the thing
Speaker 4: we're talking about was convalescent plasma. You know, we people
Speaker 4: who got COVID and recovered had antibodies like me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know, so you take the plasma, you spin
Speaker 4: down the antibodies, and you have to have a blood
Speaker 4: tyed match like a traditional vaccine in many respects. Yeah, well,
Speaker 4: or treatment or therapeutic right, So we were given that
Speaker 4: to people. I remember somebody being written up in the
Speaker 4: end choir said, oh my gosh, I thought I was
Speaker 4: going to die, and then I got this. I was
Speaker 4: better the next day. Granted it wasn't. The monoclonal antibodies
Speaker 4: are better, but we didn't have them at the time.
Speaker 4: I understand.
Speaker 1: Well, Congress Wonster, it has been a distinct pleasure having
Speaker 1: you in here. Disturbing and frightening and and nefarious.
Speaker 4: All. I just it's got all the intrigue of some
Speaker 4: kind of crazy novel that's all been made up. But
Speaker 4: go ahead and give our report. You know, you can
Speaker 4: look it up online. Just go to Majority Report Coronavirus Pandemic.
Speaker 4: It'll come out and it's got all the categories. I mean,
Speaker 4: we looked at the nursing home deal in New York
Speaker 4: and had Governor Cuomo in. We looked at the effects
Speaker 4: of the bills that we passed. This was you know,
Speaker 4: we uncovered a lot of nefarious behavior, but you can
Speaker 4: break it down by category. Read the parts that you're
Speaker 4: interested in. We tried to make it easy reading. Everything
Speaker 4: is documented. We have all the footnotes, and even when
Speaker 4: we have parts of emails were not cherry picking. You
Speaker 4: can you can find the entire chain of emails, as
Speaker 4: I would expect from someone like you. It's been a
Speaker 4: real pleasure.
Speaker 1: You know, I have always told you just because you're
Speaker 1: not in congressman anymore, doesn't mean you're not welcome here
Speaker 1: to talk about things like this. I know you'll keep
Speaker 1: your finger on the pulse that matters in Washington. I
Speaker 1: know you're off the bigger and better things in your world.
Speaker 1: And you know, God bless you for being around all
Speaker 1: these years for me and my listening audience, and again
Speaker 1: you have a welcome invitation here in the fifty five
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Speaker 4: My friend, it's been an honor and I can't thank
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