WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:02.399 Oh, hey, Rob, you are not on your mic. 2 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:04.280 I don't think what are we going to pretend here 3 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:08.279 that there's like, oh our our our, our broadcast standards 4 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:12.759 are so high. Yes, okay, well we have we we 5 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:13.519 do have them. 6 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:17.160 They're just we can't be met sometimes they can't be met. 7 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:28.160 It's that simple. Wait a minute, Wait a minute. 8 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:34.439 You know this is excuse me a damn fine cup 9 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:42.920 of coffee. 10 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:48.960 Welcome to the first glop culture of the second Trump administration, 11 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.200 where we're we're nearing the end of January. I'm John 12 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:57.159 pod Hornz in New York. Somewhere in the wilds of 13 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:01.079 the state of New Jersey wilds, the place that has 14 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:05.760 more townships than any other in the planet Earth is 15 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:09.840 Rob Long. Hello wild, Rob Long. You're like, I look 16 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:13.719 up my equipment. Rob is having sound. We're having sound 17 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:15.760 issues with Rob, so we were going to try to 18 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:18.920 we're fixing those on the fly. And by we, I 19 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:22.760 mean also Jonah Goldberg in Washington High Jonah, Hey, John, 20 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.239 I know Jonah and I did a podcast together yesterday 21 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:29.359 and then he went on Twitter and insulted me for 22 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.400 the hours for the fact that I quoted you accurately 23 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:37.120 an hour out of my day, he ask me, had 24 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.879 the fly making fun of me? Okay, that's fine. 25 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:43.680 All all I say I did was quote you saying 26 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:45.079 not to monologize. 27 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.760 That's okay. Well, that was consciousness of the fact that 28 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:52.040 I was at that moment monologizing, and I think I 29 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:56.040 think that that self knowledge should not become the object 30 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:56.879 of your sport. 31 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.719 That's fair anyway, apologize. 32 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:03.359 That's okay. You know who else needs to apologize? The 33 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:07.400 voters of the Academy of Motion Art, Motion Picture Arts 34 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.960 and Sciences, who today, as we're recording, gave thirteen nominations 35 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.960 to a movie on Netflix that it is my estimation, 36 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.319 according to my scientific study of these matters, that literally 37 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.759 no one has watched from beginning to end. And that 38 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:26.759 is a Melia Amelia Perez, Amelia Perez, watch saw twice, 39 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:32.919 You saw twice your life? Can I just tell you? 40 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:34.960 I think we talked about this the last time. But 41 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.479 Amelia Perez posits the following question, what if you made 42 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:46.840 a French director made an opera largely in Spanish about 43 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:52.479 how el Choppo is trans and wants to become a woman, 44 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:56.599 and when El Choppo becomes a woman becomes a social 45 00:02:56.800 --> 00:03:01.680 justice warrior. And tries to save the world because now 46 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:06.280 that he she is the person that she is supposed 47 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.199 to be, that now she can be they can be 48 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:14.159 a good person. And it got thirteen nominations. And I'm 49 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:17.280 telling you right now, I have not met a single 50 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:21.960 person who has gotten past minute sixty of Amelia Perez. 51 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:24.199 I have seen it all the way through because of 52 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:29.039 my professional obligations, but I was doing wordal and the 53 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:33.840 Spelling Bee through the second half, so fortunately I was 54 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:39.800 really not paying that much attention. It is awful, It 55 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.000 is comically awful, so it is of course a thirteen 56 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:46.800 Oscar nominee. 57 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:48.680 Do you know you know what it reminds me of. 58 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:53.120 It's a story you told, was it? John Hughes who 59 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.719 had a horrible idea for a screenplay that he would 60 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.319 test out on studio executives to see if they were 61 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.240 yes men or not yes right. It was a bit 62 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.960 like a botched abortion or whatever. And if they if 63 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.120 they said that sounds great, he knew he couldn't trust 64 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.479 their judgment. It feels like someone pitched that and no 65 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.319 one realized it was a joke. 66 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:17.639 And then they got thirteen Oscar nominations. Because of course 67 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:20.040 it's a movie, and now that one of the star 68 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:21.800 of the movie, it was actually not the star of 69 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.480 the movie, but it's the title character is a trans 70 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:29.439 person named Carlo Sophia Gascon got an Oscar nomination for 71 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.439 Best Actress, And we can get to the question of 72 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.720 whether or not a person who was born male like 73 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:38.839 Leah Thomas in the Swimming Pool should be well, that's good, Rob, 74 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:43.319 thank you came, yet you fix it anyway. We can 75 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.000 talk about whether or not this person is stealing, is 76 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:50.079 going to possibly steal an Oscar from an actual biological 77 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.360 woman or not. But she's all not the star of 78 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.639 the movie, because the star of the movie is Zoweys Saldana, 79 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.240 who was actually good in it and is in the 80 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:02.680 Supporting Actress category. Nonetheless, this is a fast because of 81 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:07.079 course that's why it's nominated for thirteen Academy Awards, because 82 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:13.399 it's a movie about a transwoman. But the fact that 83 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.600 that trans woman is el Choppo does not seem to 84 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:20.040 have created any moral hazard for the Academy voters, who 85 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:23.839 are perfectly happy to imagine that if you just take 86 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.720 Yaya Sinhoar and you let Yaya Sinhar become a woman, 87 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:32.240 Yaya Sinowar will become Gandhi. I mean that is essentially 88 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.079 kind of like the theme of the movie. Now, I 89 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:43.920 just want to say not to anologize that. Conclave, the 90 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.319 other movie, another movie that I think has seven or 91 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.759 eight Academy Award nomination. You are muted, Rob, even though 92 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:51.120 your sound was good there first. 93 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.360 Careful on the spoilers here, Okay. 94 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.199 I just want to say that there. It would be 95 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:02.480 great if Carlo Sophia Skan presented the Best Special Effects 96 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:08.120 Award along with the actor who plays the mysterious cardinal 97 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.720 from Kabul in Conclave. And if you've seen the movie, 98 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:13.920 you know what I mean. If you haven't, I'm not 99 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:20.000 saying anything, so but that would be that would be fun. Yeah, Okay, 100 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:23.279 if anybody here cared about so here the here are 101 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.240 the Oscar nominees, and I would like to know if 102 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:28.040 you guys have seen any of Okay, here's here's what 103 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:35.879 Here's what they got, Anora, I'm still here. A Brazilian movie, Wicked, 104 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:43.639 A Complete Unknown, the Bob Dylan movie, The Substance Body 105 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:51.120 Horror with Demi Moore, The con Conclave, The Papal Succession Movie, 106 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.639 The Brutalist, The Three and a half hour epic of 107 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.519 post war America and an architect and a rich guy 108 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.839 and a Holica survivor. Uh, what's watch? What is your? 109 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:02.360 What is your? 110 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:03.639 Where are you going with this? 111 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:05.920 I was going to ask you if you've seen any 112 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.600 of these films? Okay, that's what I would like to 113 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.360 know if you, I think you have seen Conclave. 114 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.879 I've seen Conclave. I've seen Honora, you've seen. 115 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.680 Yes, and there are eight others and. 116 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:21.839 Substance. 117 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:28.279 Okay, okay, have seen any of these? Literally? Not seen? 118 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.160 He said Jonas Jonahs, taking the rob chair for this 119 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:32.959 having not seen it. 120 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:38.720 Usual, I've watches more television streaming television than I do, 121 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:45.439 certainly because of his many flights, many plane flights. So 122 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:48.639 I I just think it's interesting that this is a 123 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:52.040 mark of how movies have Really there's no question that 124 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:56.480 they have shifted into a secondary place in our culture 125 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.879 that they when for most of my lifetime they occupied 126 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:04.279 the primary place in popular culture. The most. Everybody's happier 127 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:04.839 in culture. 128 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.000 Everybody's happier in a way, right because they weren't going 129 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.600 to give the oscars the movies that you like. 130 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.439 Anyway, Let's hear, since they give I mean I love, right, 131 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.480 So now that's the one that I loved. But I mean, 132 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.519 did I like no? Man? 133 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:25.439 Right, So so everybody's everybody's getting what they want. I mean, 134 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.040 the people in show business are getting awards, which, by 135 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:29.879 the way, is something that we definitely want in show 136 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:30.800 business all the time. 137 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:32.519 I have a mind. 138 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.320 I have a Writer's Guild Award. I'm a Writer's Guild 139 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.919 Award winner, along with other awards, but my Writer's Guild Award, 140 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:40.320 it still says it. Am I buy a Writer's Guild 141 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:40.960 Award winner? 142 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:42.159 I want? 143 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:47.120 I want the Writers Guild for the Earth Day Special 144 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:54.000 in like I don't know, nineteen ninety something, and the reason, yeah, 145 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.000 the reason it got was because everybody giving James. James, 146 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.720 I'll explain it. I'll explain it if you let me. Awards, 147 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.200 let me let me if you can, let me explain 148 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:09.080 it here, not to monologize, but everyone on every show 149 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:14.720 wrote a little sketch with their characters. So the writers did. 150 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:18.440 The Earth Day Special of that year had like one 151 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:23.080 hundred and twenty seven writers, which and they all voted 152 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:23.679 for themselves. 153 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.279 So that's what. So that's one fewer than SNL has now. 154 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.399 Yeah, so they all voted for themselves to get the 155 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:29.480 get the Emmy. 156 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:31.240 So I have it, and for a long time I 157 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.759 had it in the bathroom until someone said, you know. 158 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.480 That's everybody says, yeah in the bathroom. It's all. It's 159 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:39.159 like such a thing to say. 160 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:42.120 Well, but the difference is that it says the Writers 161 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:45.440 Guild Writers Guild Award Award for the Earth Day Special, 162 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:47.960 So it does. That's where it belongs. It's not like 163 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:49.200 you have to hear. 164 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.159 And realize you look at the ingredients. 165 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:55.840 So is it your contention that it's early yet, But 166 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:02.279 basically cinema, right, film theater going cinema. 167 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.080 Yeah, use of cinema, by the way, is. 168 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:10.840 On the path towards where opera and ballet are today. 169 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.080 They still exist, right, bad analogy, that's a very good. 170 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:20.159 And popular culture, or you can call it or theater. 171 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.720 I mean, actually, there are two thoughts about this, one 172 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:26.080 of which is that it's a minority. It's a it's 173 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.360 a pleasure that is enjoyed by six seven eight percent 174 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:34.679 of the population. That the infrastructure that exists to provide 175 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:38.679 that pleasure to people is too large and will shrink. Right. 176 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:42.480 That is, these thousands of theaters and large buildings, right, 177 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.279 and you know all of that, and they will they 178 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.080 will shrink or they will they will become multipurpose spaces 179 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.120 where other things happen. And then in those spaces seven 180 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.200 or eight times a year, something big might happen, like 181 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:58.080 like there there are two possibly very big Marvel movies 182 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:02.480 this year, and Superman and Wicked too, and you know 183 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.559 Despicable Me seven and Zootopia two and things like that 184 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:11.039 that that might have large audiences where they can be activated. 185 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:14.320 And otherwise these spaces will either will become bowling alleys 186 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.799 or bars or whatever they'll do. They'll they'll be games 187 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.639 to play or something like that. And that's one possibly. 188 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.960 The other possibility is that they will essentially go extinct 189 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:32.240 because the viewing experience of watching any program is now 190 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.799 arguably better at home than in a theater, or at 191 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:40.000 least be talking. You don't people talking, you don't have 192 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:40.960 to go somewhere. 193 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.519 But the problem is you don't feel compelled. The thing 194 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:45.200 about going to movie theaters. You used to feel like, oh, 195 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.039 I better go. I got to go see this movie. 196 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:49.000 Everyone's seeing it. I want to go see it. There's 197 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:51.559 part of an outing. Now when you're in your house. 198 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.799 You have this ability to think, well. 199 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.320 You turn off Amlia Perez is what you're. 200 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.519 Saying, or like or not today, I do want to 201 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:00.240 see it. I just want to see it today, and 202 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:01.600 you know, you can see it tomorrow if you want. 203 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.080 Whereas a movie, you kind of had to go and 204 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:03.480 see it. 205 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.279 Yeah, when we were kids, and when we were kids 206 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:10.039 and there was a movie on TV that you wanted 207 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:14.559 to see, you had to see it, right, there's no idea. Well, 208 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:16.559 those were like the big ones. But let's say there 209 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.200 was a movie that you had heard of and suddenly 210 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.320 it's on either in prime time or it's on at 211 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:24.360 eleven thirty, and it's a movie you'd heard abund the 212 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:27.200 Maltese Falcon, and you're you know, you're our age and 213 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.399 you're fourteen years old, and you better watch it because 214 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:31.360 you don't know when it's coming. 215 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.679 It was the principle, yeah, right, the same principle that 216 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.440 these movies were on. But I you know, in a sense, 217 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:42.519 though everybody gets this is really just a question economic 218 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:48.519 terms of the costs aligning with the with the actual upside, 219 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.159 which is that the movies are really too expensive to 220 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:55.679 make considering what they where they are and so everything's 221 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.600 going to get pressed down. That's you know, It's that 222 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:04.039 that's the difference between theater and and ballet and opera, 223 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:06.720 et cetera. So that you have very rich people basically 224 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:11.399 supporting and subsidizing these art forms, and you're just I 225 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.000 don't think you have that with movies. I can't imagine, 226 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:17.279 although you do in a weird way. You do have 227 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.159 to do right because you have it in this sense well, 228 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:25.480 supporting the different things. It's a slightly different thing though, 229 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.960 because because it's it's exciting. 230 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.639 People invest in movies because they want to be movie stars. 231 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:31.320 That's why they do it. 232 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:33.519 They don't do it because they did a very very 233 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.799 complicated economic analysis and they run in a team of consultancs. 234 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.200 They decided that I alone can make you know, like 235 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.879 nobody nobody hires McKinsey to figure out how to work 236 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.279 the system at the win casino because there isn't one, 237 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.679 you know, it's that's they're gonna lose money, so they 238 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:47.120 do that. 239 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:48.360 I don't know. 240 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.080 I just to me, that's that's the that's what's gonna happen. 241 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.799 Movies are just gonna and and and film productions is 242 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:55.919 gonna go down I mean, the costs of it are 243 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.279 going to go down, and the people who are gonna 244 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.200 do it are going to be people who are more 245 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:03.600 interested in doing but do it and having it doing 246 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.240 it and then get launching it to a tequila brand. 247 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.639 That's the that's the smart move. But let me tell 248 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.200 you a story. So the story is the movie The Brutalist, 249 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.639 which is a remarkable piece of work, and I really 250 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.799 do strongly urge people to go see it. It's a 251 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.360 it's an American epic, and it's really remarkable and there's 252 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.600 a lot to argue over it. And it is also 253 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:29.240 remarkable because it's it's more than three hours long, and 254 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:31.679 it costs ten million dollars to make, and it's an 255 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.919 epic set from nineteen pretty much from nineteen forty six 256 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.840 through nineteen sixty one. 257 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.519 Multiple thing you have said, none of the words you 258 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:47.799 have just uttered yes, have in any way have encouraged 259 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:48.600 me to see this movie. 260 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:51.600 I am I okay, I encourage you. 261 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.759 I'm looking at my crystal ball and in my crystal 262 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:54.399 I don't know. 263 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.879 Much, but I know one hundred percent certainly you are 264 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.840 that I will never see this freaking Moore. 265 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:00.519 You are. 266 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.639 There's nothing about it that I think is interesting. 267 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.320 Or entertaining and very interesting, and you will merely doubt 268 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.919 that you are incorrect. But and I know you, and 269 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:11.840 I know your taste, and I think you would actually 270 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:12.600 you would find it. 271 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:14.320 Va you lost me at three hours. 272 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:15.360 Now, let me explain. 273 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.519 Sometimes you guys make me feel like I'm listening to 274 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:18.639 my parents argue with each other. 275 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:20.840 But wait, let me explain why I brought it up. 276 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:22.200 You love the most. 277 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.039 Listen to me. It's three and a half hours long. 278 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:27.840 It's an American epic. It's said in the past it 279 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:34.120 costs ten million dollars to make in total. Wait, that's 280 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.080 an extraordinary fact alone. And why did it cost ten 281 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.440 million dollars to make? There's a little hint of why 282 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.720 it cost ten million dollars to make. That is both 283 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:46.440 encouraging and terrifying to people in Hollywood and probably to 284 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.879 all of us. Okay, are you. 285 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.759 Going to tell us why? 286 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.759 Because they used AI. Now we only know that they 287 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.120 used AI to help them strengthen. Some of the characters 288 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:03.200 speak in Hungarian. That's Adrian Adrian Brody nominated for Best Actor, 289 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.120 Felicity Jones nominated for Best Actress. Hungarian and they speak 290 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.399 together in Hungarian, and there are scenes where there's Hungarian 291 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:13.639 and apparently they used AI to strengthen the Hungarian, make 292 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.320 it literate, make it make it correct. All of that. 293 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:23.279 I'm guessing that more than Hungarian was done here that 294 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.559 is that involves AI. 295 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:31.039 That movie Queer is it's like this, there's tons of 296 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:33.519 AI in that movie and it's almost terrible. 297 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.039 Okay, but I say, you used AI AI to do 298 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.039 what well, I don't know. 299 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:45.360 Sets backwards Une Philadelphia, nineteen fifty one. But my point 300 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:49.879 is that this means you can make a giant. You 301 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:54.720 could make The Godfather for two million dollars. Well if 302 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:59.720 you're bubbling, okay, if you use AI properly. But of 303 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.120 course everybody in Hollywood, everybody in America is scared to 304 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.599 death of AI. 305 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:11.680 Can we just here's what's interesting about culture and AI 306 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:17.519 and movies to me. In the movie Queer with Daniel 307 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.400 Craig and then an actor whose name I forget now 308 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.960 Daniel Craig, Clake, James Bond, there's a whole bunch of 309 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.920 AI in there for like scenery and like Mexico City 310 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:28.160 in the fifties and stuff it's like, and they shot 311 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:29.440 it all on a back lot, so it kind of 312 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.119 looks faky anyway, but like the AI kind of does okay, 313 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.279 but it's gonna look like those really bad rear screen 314 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:37.960 projections from the fifties, look like a bad Hitchcock rear 315 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.559 screen projection, which we all kind of like except now 316 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:41.640 because it's Hitchcock. 317 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:42.319 But really it. 318 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:43.599 Looks terrible, right ye. 319 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:46.519 What's interesting about it is that they didn't use AI 320 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:52.640 for the fairly graphic sex scenes between Daniel Craig and 321 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:55.960 this other dude and Daniel Craig is an action adventure, 322 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:57.839 and that just shows you how far we come, because 323 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.480 you know, if you just say yeah, John Wayne, or 324 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.279 even like Roger Moore, Sean Connery, you said, look, you're 325 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:04.519 gonna be in bed with this guy, it's going to 326 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.480 be pretty obvious what's happening. And there's really no other 327 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.400 way to fake it. So it's going to be almost 328 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.599 like you're like, it's happening. You know, it's not going 329 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:17.880 to be it's going to be very very intimate, But 330 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:21.440 we're gonna use AI to do the Mountains of Tosco. 331 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.960 If you're like Sean Connery, how about we do the 332 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.720 AI for the sex stuff that we Actually. 333 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.640 It's even worse because Daniel Craig like took this big 334 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.160 swing for the fences with this part and did not 335 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.119 work an Oscar nomination. 336 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:39.319 And well that's because it's that he was he was stiffed. 337 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.319 He was stiffed, he was slewed, which is what you're saying. 338 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:46.599 People thought it because he did in the movie. 339 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:47.599 But the weird. 340 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.359 Thing about that is that it used to be like 341 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.359 you would get an Oscar nom if you played somebody 342 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:57.880 who was mentally handicapped or sad gay man. And now 343 00:18:57.920 --> 00:18:59.279 I think you don't. I don't know how you get. 344 00:18:59.319 --> 00:18:59.920 I don't know how you get. 345 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:00.319 Okay. 346 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.079 One other big thing is that you know yetity you 347 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.599 play a drug dealer who becomes a woman. 348 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:10.519 Yeah, that's been got transit, here's and here's a big one, 349 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.200 got a big one for you. You know how it used 350 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:18.640 to be to every documentary every year, the best documentary. 351 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:21.799 We're just deserly trying to get some jokes in here. John, 352 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.279 I don't know if you've noticed. You keep going back 353 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:25.200 to the ospital. 354 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:28.880 Said stiffed. I'm the one who said I started that 355 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.000 whole thing. I know, I know, okay, I don't. I 356 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:33.240 just don't want to be accused of it. 357 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.640 But you finished too soon, That's what. 358 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:46.200 That's what he said. Okay, the documentary film category. Every year, 359 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:50.960 there were always two films that involved the Holocaust, right, 360 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.279 always two. There was like a Survivor, or there was 361 00:19:55.319 --> 00:20:00.000 like no, now we are moving what is now twenty 362 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.559 twenty four? It is the and guess what, Guess what? 363 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.079 There is a movie. There is no Holocaust movie, but 364 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:10.000 there is of course a Palestinian Jenit are being genocided 365 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:12.000 movie in the documentary category. 366 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:13.480 Well, I got to get a movie's times. 367 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:15.839 That's what I'm saying. So the new thing is going 368 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:18.079 to be It used to be Hollywood run by Jews, 369 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:21.559 Da da da Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust. Now it's going to 370 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:27.319 be Hollywood run by woke leftist lunatics, palastine genocide, palicying, 371 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.359 and genocide palacy. So that's a fun that's a fun 372 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.039 journey that we're taking, you know, as as the politics 373 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:39.640 in America shifts radically in the other direction. But so, uh, 374 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.480 did you like a Noura rob because I loved Anora. 375 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:44.759 Yeah. 376 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:45.480 That was fun. It was good. 377 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:47.720 I was like a real movie. Yeah, I mean it 378 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.160 felt like a real movie. It felt like a movie, 379 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.559 like I mean, I liked I liked the conclavet because 380 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:53.880 it was. 381 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:56.720 It was. 382 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:01.839 I love all that like that specific weird Vatican stuff, 383 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.680 you know, as a as a as a devoted Anglican. 384 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:08.839 It it satisfies my need to to uh to look 385 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:10.680 down on the papers, but also think, wow, that's a 386 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:11.640 cool outfit. 387 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.960 Cool outfit, nice hallways like yeah, and also a part 388 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:19.799 one hundred and two hotel rooms they somehow just constructed 389 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.759 in the solely to have there so that they could 390 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:25.359 have a conclave every now and then. 391 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.160 I just like it. I just thought that that was 392 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.400 it was. 393 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.799 Pretty it has it has the worst last ten minutes 394 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.839 of any movie I've ever seen that. Yeah, But nonetheless, 395 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.319 anyway it is, it is so good. It is so 396 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:37.960 fun until that point. 397 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:39.559 So that point's kind of fun. 398 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:41.119 That was a fun movie. 399 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:44.359 I was in London recently with my daughter, Yeah, and 400 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.839 we saw two shows on the West End, two things 401 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.079