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<v Speaker 1>It's night side on radio.

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<v Speaker 2>The Coal, the Coal, the Kraken, a great National Hockey

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<v Speaker 2>League franchise, as I'm sure you remember from your childhood,

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<v Speaker 2>right Nicole, Yeah, okay yeah. Oh. By the way, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, did you see did you happen to notice

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<v Speaker 2>who rang the opening bell at the stock market today?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that was President ELEC. Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have him get near that bell ever. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I am staying out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There, that's all I got. I got it, I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking to myself, Oh, yeah, the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>you can never predict is the stock bar.

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<v Speaker 4>That is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and laundry and death and taxes, yes, yes, yes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>death and taxes are things you kind of voice laundry

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<v Speaker 2>to the tax Yeah. Your CPA will tell you sometime,

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<v Speaker 2>probably like in middle February, what your tax is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in middle of April.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and then you run away and don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>pay tax. All right, my friend, I'll talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>The cracking, I don't even know what a crack it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a fish, of it's a squid. Oh great,

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<v Speaker 2>a big squid. Oh gret.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now I'm done by way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know Nicole's gonna be able to put in

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<v Speaker 2>for overtime now said only kidding. Nicole is my friend

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<v Speaker 2>by pal. She has the same sense of humor I have,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of scary. Actually good evening, everybody, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>on into night Side. As we start a Thursday night here,

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<v Speaker 2>I will, as Nicole promised, take you all the way,

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<v Speaker 2>not only through the Bruins game, but right up till midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch the last period of the second last half

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<v Speaker 2>of the last period, probably after I do my program,

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<v Speaker 2>which is on Facebook every night, well most every night,

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<v Speaker 2>I do what we call Nightside postgame. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had enough of Nightside by eleven fifty eight, jump

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook, go to a Nightside with Dan Ray and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be able to see me. I'll do a little

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<v Speaker 2>review of how I thought the evening went. Might even

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<v Speaker 2>mention your phone calls as a good phone call or

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<v Speaker 2>a bad phone call. Who knows. Anyway, we have watched

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<v Speaker 2>to cover tonight. We're going to talk about crime and punishment,

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about empathy, a surprising amount of empathy

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<v Speaker 2>for the killer, the alleged killer of the healthcare CEO

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Thompson that we'll be talking with a criminologist, doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Bond, like the former capital of Germany, Scott Bonn.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to talk not only about that case, but

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<v Speaker 2>about some other high profile cases. And then we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about those mysterious drones that are appearing and

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<v Speaker 2>have been appearing since I think for about a month

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<v Speaker 2>now over New Jersey and no one knows what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get to that, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to news update. By the way, my name is Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Ray in case we haven't established that already. Rob Brooks,

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<v Speaker 2>the producer, great producer of this program, is back in

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<v Speaker 2>the control room. He's ready to go, but no phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls before nine o'clock. First up tonight, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a theme that we talk about here on Nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's one that I think maybe is due for

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<v Speaker 2>an adjustment. We're talking with Nathan Honeycut. He is with Fire,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an organization founded by our great friend Harvey

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<v Speaker 2>Silverglade co founded by Harvey silver Glade back on many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago the foundation of individual rights and expression. And

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Honeycut says there's a new poll done by a

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<v Speaker 2>Fire about how welcome a university faculty would welcome a

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<v Speaker 2>conservative professor. There aren't many conservative professors at college in

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<v Speaker 2>universities today, which I think is part of the problem

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<v Speaker 2>we have in this world right now. Nathan Honeycutt, welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to night, said, how are.

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<v Speaker 5>You doing good? Thank you for having me Dan, Well, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Very much, so you. The question you asked of the

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<v Speaker 2>college professors and university professors is not what their political

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<v Speaker 2>viewpoints are, it's how they perceived the other faculty would

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<v Speaker 2>welcome or if a conservative faculty member would be welcomed

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<v Speaker 2>into those little closed communities. And it's not very encouraging,

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<v Speaker 2>to say the least, tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was somewhat discouraging. So we asked faculty at

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<v Speaker 5>fifty five schools across the nation. Got a little over

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<v Speaker 5>six thousand responding how well a liberal or a conservative

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<v Speaker 5>would fit into their department. And then we also asked

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<v Speaker 5>a ton of questions trying to figure out like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>how comfortable do you faculty member feel speaking on campus?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have to tone down your writing, do your

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<v Speaker 5>self censor? Do you worry about your job or reputation?

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<v Speaker 5>And the answer across the board for a decent number

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<v Speaker 5>of faculty was yes to all of the above. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they're afraid of damaging the reputations of losing their jobs.

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<v Speaker 5>They self censor, and the base the base rate was

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<v Speaker 5>about depending on the question, about twenty five percent or

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<v Speaker 5>higher in our sample. But then when we've kind of

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<v Speaker 5>narrowed in by ideology and looked at the conservative faculty,

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<v Speaker 5>it was it was through the roof. Typically over half

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<v Speaker 5>of the conservative faculty were saying that they were engaging

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<v Speaker 5>in all of these all of these things, which are

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<v Speaker 5>it's they're not they're not good to say the least,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's it's not of benefit to research, to teaching,

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<v Speaker 5>and to the general environment and universities.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I always saw it and was taught and obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>well I should say obviously people listen to my show

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<v Speaker 2>might not believe this, but not only did I graduate

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<v Speaker 2>very highly respected law school, Boston University Law Schools, So

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<v Speaker 2>I know a little bit about what it's like to

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<v Speaker 2>be on college campus, and clearly, uh, conservatives are are

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<v Speaker 2>not particularly welcomed. Were was there was there any cadre

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<v Speaker 2>of uh, you know, admittedly liberal professors who said yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see more diversity, you know, intellectual diversity,

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<v Speaker 2>philosophical diversity in our in our faculty. There was there

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<v Speaker 2>much support for that, obviously, they they have the majority

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<v Speaker 2>on campus these days. What was there any engling? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they just very happy with how it is right now

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<v Speaker 2>and that there's there's not much discussion in that pe

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<v Speaker 2>tradition of ideas. Were not much disagreement within that p

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there there's there is a small contingent of liberal faculty,

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<v Speaker 5>so it's not it's not uniform that all liberal faculty

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<v Speaker 5>are against good point diversity or or having conservatives on campus. Anecdotally,

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<v Speaker 5>on campus, I still teach as an adjunct professor about

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<v Speaker 5>a classis semester and have a number of colleagues who

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<v Speaker 5>are really concerned about this. But I think by and large,

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<v Speaker 5>the majority of faculty they either aren't aware of the problem,

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<v Speaker 5>or they are and they just don't care. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot easier to have people that surround you and your department,

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<v Speaker 5>and even outside of the universities too. This applies where

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<v Speaker 5>they all agree with you. Then it's like your ideas

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<v Speaker 5>aren't going to be challenged. Conversations are easier.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's comfortable. Comfortable.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's easy, Yeah, comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not what Again, a college is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a patrit dish of competing ideas, particularly in the

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<v Speaker 2>social sciences. Obviously, Yeah, there can be some disagreements within

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<v Speaker 2>the sciences itself as well. If you take mathematics, two

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of math, there's the arguments kind of

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<v Speaker 2>closed on that. But when you get into political science

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<v Speaker 2>and psychology and sociology and world history, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of subjects this room from many viewpoints, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be a great college professor. I'd be a great

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<v Speaker 2>journalism professor. I've spent my entire career in journalism, both

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<v Speaker 2>as an on air television reporter, where no one knew

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<v Speaker 2>what my political viewpoints were because I was assiduous in

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that I was fear and I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>every through the through the lens of objectivity. As a

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<v Speaker 2>talk show host, I can give more of my opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>some of this direction, some of that direction, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would care less. I would want to hang with faculty,

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<v Speaker 2>people who I disagreed with, people who I agreed with

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<v Speaker 2>it would have nothing. I would want to just hang

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<v Speaker 2>with smart, bright people, and I'd like my ideas to

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<v Speaker 2>be challenged, but I couldn't take the pay cut to

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<v Speaker 2>do what they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't blame you there. And that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>when so many people idealize what a university is there

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<v Speaker 5>when I was in grad school, or when I talk

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<v Speaker 5>to kids who want to be go to grad school,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I do you imagine the university is this

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<v Speaker 5>place where you got people when kind of tweed jackets and.

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<v Speaker 2>With leather patches, with leather patches on the elbows. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>forget that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and they debate and discussed and uh, there's there's

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<v Speaker 5>a recent article by Roland Fryar, I think in Wall

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<v Speaker 5>Street Journal where he talked about how when he was

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<v Speaker 5>undergrad he used to debate people and have really deep

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<v Speaker 5>conversations in the common room of his dorm. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's just it doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>When I debated Howard Zinn, I was in law school,

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<v Speaker 2>and Zin was paid two thousand this is in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>was paid two thousand dollars for his appearance. I was

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<v Speaker 2>paid two hundred and of course he was a communist socialist.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so far to the left, And in my

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<v Speaker 2>concluding remarks, I suggested that since you know, he very

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<v Speaker 2>much believed equal work, equal to time, equal pay, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, that we would blend our two honorarium

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<v Speaker 2>and split the difference to no one. Surprise, Howard Zin

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<v Speaker 2>did not go on with that proposal. Oh yeah, Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed. I enjoyed this conversation. Say hello to all

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<v Speaker 2>my friends. That fire the foundation of individual rights and expression.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep on keeping on, my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, You're very welcome. We'll have you back, Nathan Honeycott

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<v Speaker 2>of Fire and how can folks before you leave, Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>get more information on this great organization founded and co

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<v Speaker 2>founded by our great friend Harvey Silverglade.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, visit us online. Our website is thefire dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>That's perfect. That's perfect, the fire two words mesh together,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire dot Org. Thanks, Nathan, we'll talk again. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much. All right, well, we we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the concept of sacred rest with doctor Sandra

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<v Speaker 2>Sondra excuse me, Sonda Sonda Dalton Smith. Uh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get you. We're gonna get you in a

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<v Speaker 2>situation to recover your life, renew your energy, and restore

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<v Speaker 2>your sanity, all in about seven or eight minutes. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>up on the other side of this break on Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>right here in w BZ, Boston's news radio. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Dan Rayyo, your host, your congenial host. Back on

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray, Mine from the window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to welcome to Nightside doctor Sanda Dalton Smith. She's

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<v Speaker 2>an author and board certified internal medicine doctor. Welcome, doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Dalton Smith. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about your newest book, Sacred Rest. Recover

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<v Speaker 2>your life, renew your energy, restore your sanity. Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Dalton Smith. It sounds so easy. Is it really that easy?

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<v Speaker 3>Easy might not be the best word. It's doable.

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<v Speaker 2>I like doable. Go ahead. I'm just having a little

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<v Speaker 2>fun with you. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for a lot of people, rest is something

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about it. The subtitle recover your life,

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<v Speaker 2>renew your energy, restore your sanity. What can people do?

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of people out there one who

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<v Speaker 2>have trouble sleeping. I luckily am not in that category.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm awake fifteen seconds after I put my head

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday or Sunday, I would sleep in nine thirty ten

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, and that's considered late because you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>what people is it. Is it smart? Let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you that is it smart to occasionally try to load

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<v Speaker 2>or Sunday and you're off day and just snooze the

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<v Speaker 2>morning away or is that a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, marathons don't typically work. That's what I call those

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<v Speaker 3>where we're trying to get it all in at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time. Uh, it's more helpful for the body when

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<v Speaker 3>you do as you mentioned, you have some regularity to

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<v Speaker 3>its own stress. Some people, if they try to sleep longer,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we now know what we what I should

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<v Speaker 2>not be doing. What about the question of I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 2>now that as people get older they need less sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>What is this such a thing as the average person

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe so. I think you know, when we

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<v Speaker 3>hours if people sleep, they range really from some people

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<v Speaker 3>say they need five hours and they're perfectly good. Some

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<v Speaker 3>people say they need nine to ten. And really what

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<v Speaker 3>we're noticing is that when people get higher quality sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>When they get higher levels and longer periods of non

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<v Speaker 3>rim deep sleep, the stage three and four non rim

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<v Speaker 3>deep sleep, that's when they feel restored. So some people

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<v Speaker 3>quickly and some take a longer time. And really most

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<v Speaker 3>of my research, and what you mentioned is in my

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<v Speaker 3>that were storative processes that actually help us get into

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<v Speaker 3>deeper levels of sleep. My research is based around there

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<v Speaker 3>being seven different areas of rest that we need, seven

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<v Speaker 3>different ways our body needs to enter into restorative cycles.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we omit some of those, you can get

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<v Speaker 3>eight hours of sleep even or nine or ten, and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll still wake up exhausted because your body isn't rested

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<v Speaker 3>in one of these other seven areas.

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<v Speaker 2>When I talked about sleep to friends of mine, I

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<v Speaker 2>usual to say eight is great, nine is fine, and

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<v Speaker 2>eleven is heaven. But we'll leave that. I want people

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<v Speaker 2>to buy your book, But are there tips in the

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<v Speaker 2>book as how people can change their patterns in terms of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how soon they go to bed, maybe what

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Obviously, I think most people are smart enough

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<v Speaker 2>not to have a huge meal at nine o'clock at

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<v Speaker 2>night and expect to get a RESTful night's sleep. But

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<v Speaker 2>are there some tips in the book that people would

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, particularly if you're that person who is sleep you know,

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<v Speaker 3>staying in bed eight nine, ten hours and waking up

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<v Speaker 3>still exhausted. When someone's tired, The question that we tend

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<v Speaker 3>to have people start reflecting on is what kind of

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<v Speaker 3>tired are you? What is the area where you actually

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<v Speaker 3>have a rest deficit? Is it physical, mental, spiritual, emotional, social, sensory,

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<v Speaker 3>or creative? Those are the seven types of rest and.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the above sea do you have all of

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<v Speaker 2>the above category there too?

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<v Speaker 3>Holy kitty, Some people do, yes, especially if you're someone

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<v Speaker 3>who's on the verge of burnout. So those people who say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel like I'm burned out, they tend

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<v Speaker 3>to have sleep or rest deficits, I should say, in

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<v Speaker 3>multiple of those areas. And unfortunately, you know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people if they laid it down to go to

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<v Speaker 3>well that mental rest deficit will actually keep them from

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I keep going even when I'm sleeping. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean to be honest with you, That's the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I My best RESTful night is when I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a dream. I don't think about anything. I just stay awake.

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<v Speaker 2>I stay asleep. What is that one or two tips?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to give the book away, but

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<v Speaker 2>one of two tips people can do who are listening

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<v Speaker 2>right now that they can try before they go to

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<v Speaker 2>bed tonight, that might help them in the short term

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<v Speaker 2>at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, and I'm more than happy to. As I

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<v Speaker 3>often say, we tend to give the secrets away quite

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<v Speaker 3>freely from within the book within our rest quiz. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>share about that in a moment. But to two tips

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<v Speaker 3>that we find, particularly if you're someone with a mental

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts before going to bed. Something as simple as a

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<v Speaker 3>brain dump, So having a notepad where you're jotting down

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the ruminating thoughts are, because those ruminating thoughts will

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<v Speaker 3>have you'll think about them for long periods into the night,

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<v Speaker 3>and it actually keeps your brain from turning off. So

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<v Speaker 3>jotting it down sometime is a quick way for the

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<v Speaker 3>rhythmic noises because the brain will attach to following that

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<v Speaker 3>particular the pattern and it will help you to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of release some other thoughts. Cooler temperatures. Most people sleep

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<v Speaker 3>better when the room is cool rather than being overheated.

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<v Speaker 3>And then making sure that you do that. You are

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<v Speaker 3>aware of blue light and how your body responds to it.

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<v Speaker 3>A simple tip. If your clock sitting at the bedside

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<v Speaker 3>is pointing towards you and it has a bright red

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<v Speaker 3>or blue light, turn the clock away from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so if you need to say it, you can

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<v Speaker 3>go look, but don't have it shining in your face.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that one. Look, I could do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more with you and maybe what we could

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<v Speaker 2>do some night if it's okay with you, doctor Dalton Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>I could make it up to you. These interviews are great,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't incorporate callers. I could bring it back.

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<v Speaker 2>We could do an hour some night on this whole

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<v Speaker 2>question and take take questions from listeners and calls from listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'll be up for that one, my producer, get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with your PR person Corey Newman.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Doctor Sunda Dalton Smith the book Sacred

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<v Speaker 2>rest Recover your life, renew your energy, and restore your sanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I love alliteration rest, recover, renew, restore. I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, doctor, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. When we get back, go and talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little football. Bill Belichick. What the heck is he doing

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<v Speaker 2>heading to North Carolina to become a tar Heel boy?

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<v Speaker 2>That's something I didn't expect. We'll talk with Kyle Bray,

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<v Speaker 2>WBZ news radio reporter and try to figure it out

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<v Speaker 2>why coach Bill is heading south. Back on night Side

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<v Speaker 2>right after the news at the little bit after eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought she was a really good guest. At

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<v Speaker 2>eight thirty two, here comes the.

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<v Speaker 1>News night Side with Dan Ray on w BOST's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the big news story sports story today should be

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox signing the picture from the White Sox,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really wasn't Bill Belichick heading to North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>to coach the tar Heels. Kyle Bray's been working on

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<v Speaker 2>this story today. Kyle, I can't figure this one out

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<v Speaker 2>from a What's I mean? Obviously, I guess Bill Belichick's

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<v Speaker 2>doing what he wants to do. Kyle, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is in his head? Here?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, hey, Dan, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, I thank you so much for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you were working late.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well, I mean I was just as puzzled

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<v Speaker 4>as you were when I first heard this, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's saying, you know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>pack my bags and I'm gonna go back to school. No,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's very perplexing. But there there are definitely a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things that makes sense to me about this move,

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<v Speaker 4>even if you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, give me a couple because obviously there's fifty

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, the biggest difference I think that

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<v Speaker 4>you'll see versus you know, him taking an NFL job

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, going to the college game, is that

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<v Speaker 4>as a as a college coach, you pretty much have

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<v Speaker 4>what schemes your team's gonna run. You're in charge of

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<v Speaker 4>what players you're bringing in. I mean, obviously the landscape

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<v Speaker 4>an overbearing owner sort of controlling everything, because I mean

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in the later years of his tenure here,

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<v Speaker 4>And and I think that bothered him because I know

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<v Speaker 4>but people were talking about how they would have to

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<v Speaker 4>that you know he's there, he doesn't really have anyone

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<v Speaker 4>stops at him. He gets to make all those decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>former assistant coaches pretty well, and I have some insight

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<v Speaker 2>into what went on down in Atlanta. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>was I think he thought that deal was done and

423
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<v Speaker 2>I had that from a what I would consider to

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<v Speaker 2>be a pretty good source, and it fell apart, not

425
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<v Speaker 2>on his end, but on the Atlanta end. So maybe

426
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<v Speaker 2>he just got tired of the gamesmanship within the NFL.

427
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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you he doesn't have He might be

428
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<v Speaker 2>the boss of the football program down there, but they

429
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<v Speaker 2>have something that most major colleges, the Alumni Association. If

430
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<v Speaker 2>he wins, they will build a shrine to him. But

431
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<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't win after a couple of years, and

432
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<v Speaker 2>UNC has not been a powerhouse football program, although obviously

433
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<v Speaker 2>Drake May the Patriots quarterback, came out of UNC. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, definitely. I mean under Mac Brown they had some

435
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<v Speaker 4>they had some moments. I mean this year they went

436
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<v Speaker 4>six and six. They're going to be playing in the

437
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<v Speaker 4>Fenway Bowl actually, which is pretty exciting. You know, maybe

438
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<v Speaker 4>Belichick's not supposed to coach that game, but he might

439
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<v Speaker 4>be in attendance.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I definitely think he would want to be there

441
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<v Speaker 2>to watch because some of those guys on the team,

442
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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to turn that that roster over completely.

443
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<v Speaker 2>They'll be changes, graduating seniors and maybe some players will

444
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<v Speaker 2>decide to get in the portal and leave. But who

445
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just no, Yeah, what do you think?

446
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<v Speaker 2>What do you think the key? What do you think

447
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<v Speaker 2>the key was? I mean, was it it was? It

448
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<v Speaker 2>could have been the money because he could have gotten

449
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<v Speaker 2>just as much money in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>You I think a lot of it has to do

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<v Speaker 4>with that. And then also, I mean in his prens

452
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<v Speaker 4>conference today, he just said, you know, he just loves

453
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<v Speaker 4>to coach. I think that, you know, I mean, he

454
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<v Speaker 4>was he was pretty good on some of the media circuits.

455
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<v Speaker 1>He was doing.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, we know from anything, you know, Bill

457
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<v Speaker 4>Belichick and the media are not exactly you know, they

458
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<v Speaker 4>He has had his spats, but you know, I think

459
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<v Speaker 4>he just really wanted to get on the field, and

460
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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, NFL teams didn't want to give

461
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<v Speaker 4>him that control. And I think he he looked at

462
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<v Speaker 4>this opportunity, as you know, and I get to be

463
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<v Speaker 4>get to be on a field, and I get to

464
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<v Speaker 4>build a build a program from the ground up. I

465
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<v Speaker 4>mean the you mentioned, you know, the the he'll want

466
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<v Speaker 4>to see those players. I mean, this is a tremendous

467
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<v Speaker 4>opportunity for any players that are that are on un see.

468
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<v Speaker 4>I mean you in the college football landscape right now,

469
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<v Speaker 4>you see so many people, you know, kids transferring because

470
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<v Speaker 4>they're not getting enough playing time. You know they're transferring

471
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<v Speaker 4>or you know, sitting out seasons because they're not getting

472
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<v Speaker 4>enough money. I mean that this is now, like I

473
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<v Speaker 4>would argue if you want to go to if you're

474
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<v Speaker 4>a start player that thinks that they're a star and

475
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<v Speaker 4>wants to go to the NFL, I mean, this would

476
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<v Speaker 4>be the best place to do it. I mean there's

477
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<v Speaker 4>really no one else better to learn from than Bill Belichick.

478
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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's only gonna time. Only time will really

479
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<v Speaker 4>tell the results on if he, you know, can bring

480
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<v Speaker 4>his you know, mindset to the college game and you know,

481
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<v Speaker 4>if he can have success in that conference. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was when I was working today. I saw comments

483
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<v Speaker 4>from a former Patriot player, Logan Ryan. He was talking

484
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<v Speaker 4>on CBS Sports and he was basically like, if you're

485
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<v Speaker 4>a if you're a transfer player, like and you you

486
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<v Speaker 4>really want to make that push to go pro, like,

487
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<v Speaker 4>why would you not consider UNC? I mean, to get

488
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<v Speaker 4>a chance to learn from maybe the greatest coach that's

489
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<v Speaker 4>ever coached the game. I mean that's I mean, that

490
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<v Speaker 4>seems like a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's this is another factor and I'd love to

492
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<v Speaker 2>get your reaction to it. I'm a sports guy. I

493
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<v Speaker 2>know you're a sports guy, and not that either of us,

494
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, make our living covering sports. You cover a

495
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<v Speaker 2>lot of different news stories. But Belichick's success at New

496
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<v Speaker 2>England was over a period of twenty years, and he

497
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<v Speaker 2>had a pretty good quarterback for most of those years,

498
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<v Speaker 2>and when the quarterback left, the team sort of went away.

499
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<v Speaker 2>So you can have you can draft a quarterback like

500
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<v Speaker 2>Drake May who's twenty two or twenty three years old,

501
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<v Speaker 2>and you can say, okay, ten years minimum, maybe fifteen.

502
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<v Speaker 2>Anybody who he brings into UNCEE three years, four years max.

503
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<v Speaker 2>That's a different sort of situation that he's now going

504
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<v Speaker 2>to find himself in and I wonder how difficult that

505
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<v Speaker 2>will make it. You know, you start to get somebody

506
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<v Speaker 2>good and all of a sudden they're going to boom,

507
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>then they go, yeah, they're not there long. It's what

508
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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. And I wonder if he'll have the patience

509
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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think Belichick is someone who's imbued with

510
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of patience. I don't know him at all,

511
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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think patience is probably his strong suit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I could certainly see that. I mean, you

513
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<v Speaker 4>bring up a good point where I mean, and especially

514
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<v Speaker 4>if he's being successful, he'll probably only have three years

515
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<v Speaker 4>because some of those kids will probably want to declare

516
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<v Speaker 4>for the draft. And he talked a little bit in

517
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<v Speaker 4>his press conference today about how, you know, developing players

518
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<v Speaker 4>is really important to him. He mentioned, you know, Brady

519
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 4>was a fourth stringer his first year. You know, Gronk Edelman,

520
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.839
<v Speaker 4>you know those guys, they went through a lot of

521
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 4>development in their time. But you know, I mean, you're right,

522
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, getting to work with these work these kids

523
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 4>for such a short period of time, will that payoff?

524
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<v Speaker 4>And I mean, you look at some of the issues

525
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 4>that they had that the Pats had in his final season.

526
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, offensively, they weren't strong and the personnel that

527
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<v Speaker 4>they were bringing in weren't up to the caliber that

528
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<v Speaker 4>you would expect the past Patriots teams. And in college

529
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 4>recruiting is so much more important than it really is

530
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<v Speaker 4>in the NFL because you have such a wide pool,

531
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<v Speaker 4>and you know with now with nil deals. I mean,

532
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<v Speaker 4>I know that reportedly UNC is increasing their nil pool

533
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<v Speaker 4>to help him sort of entice more players there. But

534
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, at the end of the day, like it's

535
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<v Speaker 4>is he gonna be able to do the recruiting that's required.

536
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because I mean, obviously he has a pretty

537
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<v Speaker 4>good pitch. You know, Hey, I'm Bill Belichick. I'm the

538
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.799
<v Speaker 4>greatest coach of all time. Come play for me. But

539
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 4>you know that there are coaches that have to put

540
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<v Speaker 4>it a lot, a lot of legwork to get these

541
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<v Speaker 4>deals done. And sometimes, you know, you put in all

542
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 4>this work, you've you've got the money on the table,

543
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 4>you got them all excited, and then they just flip

544
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<v Speaker 4>at the last second. And I can't imagine what what

545
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<v Speaker 4>we'll be going through Bill Belichick's head the first time

546
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<v Speaker 4>he has a recruit flip on him at the signing day.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also you gotta you have to go most

548
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<v Speaker 2>of these college coaches, maybe Belichick would be the exception,

549
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>but you have to go to the to the home

550
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 2>of the kid. You gotta get on on a puddle

551
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>jumper maybe, and go to wherever the talented players are

552
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and you got to meet mom and dad, and you

553
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>got to schmooze a little bit. And I'm not sure

554
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<v Speaker 2>he's the schmoozing type, but we'll see.

555
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, he's He's He's definitely the type of guy

556
00:28:57.960 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 4>that kind of always gets what he wants, if at

557
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 4>least for most of his career. So it'll be interesting

558
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to see what happens when he's got to go into

559
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 4>those you know, he's got to go to these high

560
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 4>school games, got to go to these living rooms and

561
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 4>meet with you know, the whole exten family and and

562
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<v Speaker 4>and give a you know, a you know, sweet talk

563
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 4>them and whatnot. I'd love to see. I'd love to

564
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<v Speaker 4>be a fly on the wall and see that happen.

565
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have a buddy of mine who played basketball

566
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<v Speaker 2>at BC when Bob Coosey was a coach, and he

567
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>told me it was just amazing, you know, Bob Cousy

568
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>became the coach at BC right after his NBA career

569
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>with the Celtics finished. And uh, he said, Bob Coosey

570
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<v Speaker 2>walks into our house and he's asking me to play

571
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>on his college But it was like done deals just

572
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<v Speaker 2>by walking to the door. But I'm not sure that

573
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<v Speaker 2>that the same sort of magic is going to occur

574
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<v Speaker 2>when when Wody walks in the door. I don't know.

575
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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens. Gole. I enjoyed the conversation. I

576
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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it.

577
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<v Speaker 4>Of course, thank you for having back.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on back whenever you can, and don't forget to

579
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<v Speaker 2>put in for some overtime tonight. Okay, definitely, thank you. Okay,

580
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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna flip from school. This is like a regular newscast,

581
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<v Speaker 2>going to go to weather next. Where do we stand

582
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<v Speaker 2>with the drought. We're gonna be talking with an ACU

583
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<v Speaker 2>weather meteorologist. I'm pretty sure. Uh, we'll get to that

584
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<v Speaker 2>right after this break here on Nightside, And we got

585
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<v Speaker 2>lots of questions about not only the weather in the past,

586
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<v Speaker 2>but what's coming up, particularly for the rest of the month.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back on.

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside now back to Dan Ray live from the Window

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<v Speaker 1>World nightside studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we a very pleased to be joined again

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<v Speaker 2>by Matt Benz. Hey, Matt, how are you tonight? Hey

592
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<v Speaker 2>doing well? How are you doing? I'm doing great, a

593
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<v Speaker 2>little bit better after this rain. Look, I'm trying to

594
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<v Speaker 2>figure this out. We had a drought that a lot

595
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<v Speaker 2>of rain. Where do we stand with the drought? Are

596
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<v Speaker 2>we still in the drought? We out of the drought, were.

597
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<v Speaker 6>Close to the We're still We're still in the drought.

598
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<v Speaker 6>So a couple yeah, I know, we keep that word going.

599
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<v Speaker 6>But hey, there's a couple of different ways you can

600
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<v Speaker 6>look at it. So for the year, we're actually a

601
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<v Speaker 6>bob average in the precipitation department. He thinks, Okay, no drought. Yes,

602
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 6>that's good, that's what we want to hear. But since September,

603
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<v Speaker 6>September through November, that's a time period right there, we

604
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<v Speaker 6>accumulated a drought deficit and rainfall of over five and

605
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.480
<v Speaker 6>a half inches. So even though we saw all this rain,

606
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<v Speaker 6>you know, in the last couple of days, that now

607
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 6>puts us about one point nine inches above average per December,

608
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<v Speaker 6>we still have about another four you know, three four

609
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 6>inches a go to really say, hey, we've recovered, because

610
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<v Speaker 6>we kind of went missing there for a while in

611
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<v Speaker 6>the fall months and earlier in November.

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<v Speaker 2>So so you kind of look at like the year

613
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<v Speaker 2>to date sort of thing, you know, almost got to

614
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>do it. Obviously, we were in a drought in October

615
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and started in September, but we've now had more precipitation

616
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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four than we had in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, since it would be about correct. And yeah, it

618
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<v Speaker 6>kind of weird that we're in the severe drought, but

619
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<v Speaker 6>sometimes that's kind of how drought goes. It goes by,

620
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<v Speaker 6>So it's not like it's not like the way it's

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<v Speaker 6>been going slightly.

622
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<v Speaker 2>But it's what I'm saying is you got to think

623
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<v Speaker 2>of it differently. It's not like a baseball season. A

624
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>win in April is just as good as a win

625
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>in August. You know, you want to get the number

626
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>of rights to get the play. That's not quite it's

627
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:15.079
<v Speaker 2>not linear. So how much more rain would we need

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<v Speaker 2>because it's going to rain next week to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the drought here.

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<v Speaker 6>I think what you'll see is, especially after this wet

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<v Speaker 6>start to the month, you're gonna see a dent in.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, when the drought monitor comes out right now,

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<v Speaker 6>we're in that extreme drought category. I wouldn't be surprised

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<v Speaker 6>that that usually updates every Thursday, and unfortunately we just

635
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<v Speaker 6>kind of caught the tail end of this latest wet cycle,

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<v Speaker 6>so to say. But I have a feeling what you're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna see is we're gonna kind of step down gradually.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're in the extreme danger right now. Extreme drought

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<v Speaker 6>right now probably go to the severe to moderate maybe,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, by next week, and especially if we get

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<v Speaker 6>the rain, I think you'll quickly see things improving here

642
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<v Speaker 6>across the area. But just because it was so dry

643
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 6>in the fall months, that really set us on the

644
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<v Speaker 6>stage where where we're at right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know this is not your department, but are

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<v Speaker 2>there any brush fire is still burning in Massachusetts? I

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<v Speaker 2>know they have some problems out in California, but I

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<v Speaker 2>assume that our chance of brush fire has has diminished

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<v Speaker 2>remarkably over.

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<v Speaker 6>The last few Yeah, especially with the especially with the

651
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<v Speaker 6>rain that we've had. Now you've gotten you know, the

652
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<v Speaker 6>at least a cut top soil top. They call it

653
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<v Speaker 6>the duff, the all the leaf matter and stuff. Now

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<v Speaker 6>that that's all really good and soap. That fire danger

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<v Speaker 6>has gone down. Of course, if you get any long

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<v Speaker 6>term drying trend for a couple of weeks, that could return,

657
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<v Speaker 6>but at least for now, that fire danger has come

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<v Speaker 6>down quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other question, of course, that everyone wants

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<v Speaker 2>me to ask you, is we're going to have any

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<v Speaker 2>snow by Christmas.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a big question. And here's what I can tell

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<v Speaker 6>you right now. Right now, ACI Weather has some confidence

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<v Speaker 6>that we're going to get another real cold shot of

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<v Speaker 6>air here right before Christmas. And the big question is

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<v Speaker 6>is that going to include snow. So we're gonna go

667
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<v Speaker 6>through this weekend, it's gonna be chilly, we're gonna get

668
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<v Speaker 6>into next week and it's gonna kind of warm up again,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're kind of gonna think, well, we're not going

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<v Speaker 6>to get back to that cold, winter like weather again.

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<v Speaker 6>But it does look like winter will turn at least

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<v Speaker 6>with regards to cold air here probably after the twenty

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<v Speaker 6>first and going towards Christmas. The big question is can

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<v Speaker 6>we get some sort of moisture with that colder air,

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<v Speaker 6>And that's kind of hard to say right now. Right now,

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<v Speaker 6>our forecast looks like a low percent chance for a

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<v Speaker 6>light Christmas here in Boston, but a little bit shift

678
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<v Speaker 6>in the pattern could change that.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the long term for the balance of the winter.

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<v Speaker 2>I read somewhere today that we are expecting, well, they

681
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<v Speaker 2>didn't have much snow last winter, but that we are

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<v Speaker 2>expecting more snow at least than last winter.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we are expecting more snow than last winter, but

684
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<v Speaker 6>still below the historical average of what we'd expect for

685
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<v Speaker 6>a winter period. We're kind of on a fine line.

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<v Speaker 6>I think northern New England, especially once you get into

687
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<v Speaker 6>the interior Vermont, New Hampshire up into northern Maine, those

688
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 6>areas could overperform this winter. But we're going to be

689
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<v Speaker 6>right on that boundary where we're going to get into

690
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 6>these sloppy sides of these storms. We're probably going to

691
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<v Speaker 6>get more rain and then some snow, but overall we

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<v Speaker 6>expect the balance of snow to be higher than last year,

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<v Speaker 6>but perhaps below the historical average for the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, let me ask you this. When you go to

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<v Speaker 2>parties and people say, hey, what sort of what's on

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<v Speaker 2>a line of work you win, Matt, I kind of

697
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<v Speaker 2>assume that you really don't tell on your meteorologists, because

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<v Speaker 2>I assumed every question for the for the balance of

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<v Speaker 2>the parties. What about this? What about that? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>get that when you get out in social settings, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you do.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and then you also get you know, you get

703
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<v Speaker 6>paid for being wrong all the time, and you know

704
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<v Speaker 6>all that different stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so they'll ask you what the forecast is

706
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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll insult you. Oh yeah, that would be.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, I kind of keep it a little down

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<v Speaker 6>low when you go out some days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, no, with a name like Ben's last name, Matt,

710
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<v Speaker 2>Ben's what's some of your car dealer or.

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<v Speaker 6>Something like that, I get to add as my my

712
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<v Speaker 6>daughter's name, Mercedes. You know, I get that a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, all sorts of fun jokes that come up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's great, that's great, Matt, to get a great sense

715
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<v Speaker 6>of humor. Always enjoy talking to you, particularly now that

716
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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 2>The pressure is off. I was down the Cape for

718
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<v Speaker 2>most of the summer and well into the fall, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was amazingly beautiful in the Cape. I know it

720
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<v Speaker 2>cost a lot of aggravation up here, but it was

721
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<v Speaker 2>spectacular September and you know, an opulent October in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of how we were doing, and uh, you know if

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<v Speaker 2>you had anything to do with that, Matt, I just

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of everyone down in the Cape. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say thank you very much, well, thank you and

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<v Speaker 2>and you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>I just did it for the Cape though, and not

728
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<v Speaker 6>for everyone else because I know we needed the rain elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>AH got you, I got you, all right, Matt, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. We'll talk again. Okay, all right, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having all right, my pleasure, my pleasure, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>always like to talk with Matt Benn's. Okay, when we

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<v Speaker 2>get back, let me give you a quick rundown on

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to be doing tonight, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important. We'll be opening up those f FO will

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<v Speaker 2>actually be Rob will be opening up the phone line.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to talk about the level of empathy and

738
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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could almost stay sympathy shown for this guy,

739
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<v Speaker 2>Luigi Mengioni, the guy charging the murder of US Healthcare

740
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 2>CEO Brian Thompson troubling, including some comments made by our

741
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<v Speaker 2>own Senator Elizabeth Warren. We'll get into that. Also, we're

742
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<v Speaker 2>going to talk with a criminologist named Scott Bond. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had him on before. He has an expertise in serial killers.

744
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<v Speaker 2>Now again, this guy, to the best of our knowledge,

745
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 2>is not a serial killer. But we're going to talk

746
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about what goes into the minds of

747
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 2>these folks and the Later on tonight, we're going to

748
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<v Speaker 2>talk about those mysterious drones over New Jersey and of

749
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>all the places in America, why would anyone be flying

750
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>in drones over New Jersey. I mean there's really well,

751
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of military bases there, you get, right,

752
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Air Force Base Fort Dix and all that. But so

753
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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna that's Those are the topics for the night

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<v Speaker 2>stay with us always welcoming new callers feel free as

755
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<v Speaker 2>well as old callers. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back right after this
