Speaker 1: It's night side on radio.
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Speaker 2: League franchise, as I'm sure you remember from your childhood,
Speaker 2: right Nicole, Yeah, okay yeah. Oh. By the way, by
Speaker 2: the way, did you see did you happen to notice
Speaker 2: who rang the opening bell at the stock market today?
Speaker 3: I believe that was President ELEC. Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I don't want to have him get near that bell ever. Again.
Speaker 1: I am staying out of it.
Speaker 2: There, that's all I got. I got it, I got it.
Speaker 2: I was thinking to myself, Oh, yeah, the one thing
Speaker 2: you can never predict is the stock bar.
Speaker 4: That is true.
Speaker 2: Oh and laundry and death and taxes, yes, yes, yes, well,
Speaker 2: death and taxes are things you kind of voice laundry
Speaker 2: to the tax Yeah. Your CPA will tell you sometime,
Speaker 2: probably like in middle February, what your tax is going
Speaker 2: to be in middle of April.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then you run away and don't want to
Speaker 3: pay tax. All right, my friend, I'll talk to you.
Speaker 2: The cracking, I don't even know what a crack it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's a fish, of it's a squid. Oh great,
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Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm done by way.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know Nicole's gonna be able to put in
Speaker 2: for overtime now said only kidding. Nicole is my friend
Speaker 2: by pal. She has the same sense of humor I have,
Speaker 2: which is kind of scary. Actually good evening, everybody, welcome
Speaker 2: on into night Side. As we start a Thursday night here,
Speaker 2: I will, as Nicole promised, take you all the way,
Speaker 2: not only through the Bruins game, but right up till midnight.
Speaker 2: I'll watch the last period of the second last half
Speaker 2: of the last period, probably after I do my program,
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Speaker 2: review of how I thought the evening went. Might even
Speaker 2: mention your phone calls as a good phone call or
Speaker 2: a bad phone call. Who knows. Anyway, we have watched
Speaker 2: to cover tonight. We're going to talk about crime and punishment,
Speaker 2: going to talk about empathy, a surprising amount of empathy
Speaker 2: for the killer, the alleged killer of the healthcare CEO
Speaker 2: Brian Thompson that we'll be talking with a criminologist, doctor
Speaker 2: Scott Bond, like the former capital of Germany, Scott Bonn.
Speaker 2: He's going to talk not only about that case, but
Speaker 2: about some other high profile cases. And then we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about those mysterious drones that are appearing and
Speaker 2: have been appearing since I think for about a month
Speaker 2: now over New Jersey and no one knows what they are.
Speaker 2: But before we get to that, we're going to get
Speaker 2: to news update. By the way, my name is Dan
Speaker 2: Ray in case we haven't established that already. Rob Brooks,
Speaker 2: the producer, great producer of this program, is back in
Speaker 2: the control room. He's ready to go, but no phone
Speaker 2: calls before nine o'clock. First up tonight, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about a theme that we talk about here on Nightside,
Speaker 2: and it's one that I think maybe is due for
Speaker 2: an adjustment. We're talking with Nathan Honeycut. He is with Fire,
Speaker 2: which is an organization founded by our great friend Harvey
Speaker 2: Silverglade co founded by Harvey silver Glade back on many
Speaker 2: years ago the foundation of individual rights and expression. And
Speaker 2: Nathan Honeycut says there's a new poll done by a
Speaker 2: Fire about how welcome a university faculty would welcome a
Speaker 2: conservative professor. There aren't many conservative professors at college in
Speaker 2: universities today, which I think is part of the problem
Speaker 2: we have in this world right now. Nathan Honeycutt, welcome
Speaker 2: to night, said, how are.
Speaker 5: You doing good? Thank you for having me Dan, Well, thanks.
Speaker 2: Very much, so you. The question you asked of the
Speaker 2: college professors and university professors is not what their political
Speaker 2: viewpoints are, it's how they perceived the other faculty would
Speaker 2: welcome or if a conservative faculty member would be welcomed
Speaker 2: into those little closed communities. And it's not very encouraging,
Speaker 2: to say the least, tell us about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was somewhat discouraging. So we asked faculty at
Speaker 5: fifty five schools across the nation. Got a little over
Speaker 5: six thousand responding how well a liberal or a conservative
Speaker 5: would fit into their department. And then we also asked
Speaker 5: a ton of questions trying to figure out like, well,
Speaker 5: how comfortable do you faculty member feel speaking on campus?
Speaker 5: Do you have to tone down your writing, do your
Speaker 5: self censor? Do you worry about your job or reputation?
Speaker 5: And the answer across the board for a decent number
Speaker 5: of faculty was yes to all of the above. Yes,
Speaker 5: they're afraid of damaging the reputations of losing their jobs.
Speaker 5: They self censor, and the base the base rate was
Speaker 5: about depending on the question, about twenty five percent or
Speaker 5: higher in our sample. But then when we've kind of
Speaker 5: narrowed in by ideology and looked at the conservative faculty,
Speaker 5: it was it was through the roof. Typically over half
Speaker 5: of the conservative faculty were saying that they were engaging
Speaker 5: in all of these all of these things, which are
Speaker 5: it's they're not they're not good to say the least,
Speaker 5: and it's it's not of benefit to research, to teaching,
Speaker 5: and to the general environment and universities.
Speaker 2: I mean, I always saw it and was taught and obviously,
Speaker 2: well I should say obviously people listen to my show
Speaker 2: might not believe this, but not only did I graduate
Speaker 2: from a state college, but I also graduated from a
Speaker 2: very highly respected law school, Boston University Law Schools, So
Speaker 2: I know a little bit about what it's like to
Speaker 2: be on college campus, and clearly, uh, conservatives are are
Speaker 2: not particularly welcomed. Were was there was there any cadre
Speaker 2: of uh, you know, admittedly liberal professors who said yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more diversity, you know, intellectual diversity,
Speaker 2: philosophical diversity in our in our faculty. There was there
Speaker 2: much support for that, obviously, they they have the majority
Speaker 2: on campus these days. What was there any engling? Are
Speaker 2: they just very happy with how it is right now
Speaker 2: and that there's there's not much discussion in that pe
Speaker 2: tradition of ideas. Were not much disagreement within that p
Speaker 2: tradition of ideas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there there's there is a small contingent of liberal faculty,
Speaker 5: so it's not it's not uniform that all liberal faculty
Speaker 5: are against good point diversity or or having conservatives on campus. Anecdotally,
Speaker 5: on campus, I still teach as an adjunct professor about
Speaker 5: a classis semester and have a number of colleagues who
Speaker 5: are really concerned about this. But I think by and large,
Speaker 5: the majority of faculty they either aren't aware of the problem,
Speaker 5: or they are and they just don't care. It's a
Speaker 5: lot easier to have people that surround you and your department,
Speaker 5: and even outside of the universities too. This applies where
Speaker 5: they all agree with you. Then it's like your ideas
Speaker 5: aren't going to be challenged. Conversations are easier.
Speaker 2: But it's comfortable. Comfortable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy, Yeah, comfortable.
Speaker 2: And that's not what Again, a college is supposed to
Speaker 2: be a patrit dish of competing ideas, particularly in the
Speaker 2: social sciences. Obviously, Yeah, there can be some disagreements within
Speaker 2: the sciences itself as well. If you take mathematics, two
Speaker 2: plus two is always going to be four. I mean
Speaker 2: there's a lot of math, there's the arguments kind of
Speaker 2: closed on that. But when you get into political science
Speaker 2: and psychology and sociology and world history, and you know,
Speaker 2: all sorts of subjects this room from many viewpoints, I
Speaker 2: would be a great college professor. I'd be a great
Speaker 2: journalism professor. I've spent my entire career in journalism, both
Speaker 2: as an on air television reporter, where no one knew
Speaker 2: what my political viewpoints were because I was assiduous in
Speaker 2: making sure that I was fear and I looked at
Speaker 2: every through the through the lens of objectivity. As a
Speaker 2: talk show host, I can give more of my opinions,
Speaker 2: some of this direction, some of that direction, but I
Speaker 2: would care less. I would want to hang with faculty,
Speaker 2: people who I disagreed with, people who I agreed with
Speaker 2: it would have nothing. I would want to just hang
Speaker 2: with smart, bright people, and I'd like my ideas to
Speaker 2: be challenged, but I couldn't take the pay cut to
Speaker 2: do what they do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't blame you there. And that's I mean,
Speaker 5: when so many people idealize what a university is there
Speaker 5: when I was in grad school, or when I talk
Speaker 5: to kids who want to be go to grad school,
Speaker 5: and so I do you imagine the university is this
Speaker 5: place where you got people when kind of tweed jackets and.
Speaker 2: With leather patches, with leather patches on the elbows. Don't
Speaker 2: forget that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they debate and discussed and uh, there's there's
Speaker 5: a recent article by Roland Fryar, I think in Wall
Speaker 5: Street Journal where he talked about how when he was
Speaker 5: undergrad he used to debate people and have really deep
Speaker 5: conversations in the common room of his dorm. And it's
Speaker 5: it's just it doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: When I debated Howard Zinn, I was in law school,
Speaker 2: and Zin was paid two thousand this is in the seventies,
Speaker 2: was paid two thousand dollars for his appearance. I was
Speaker 2: paid two hundred and of course he was a communist socialist.
Speaker 2: He was so far to the left, And in my
Speaker 2: concluding remarks, I suggested that since you know, he very
Speaker 2: much believed equal work, equal to time, equal pay, and
Speaker 2: all of that, that we would blend our two honorarium
Speaker 2: and split the difference to no one. Surprise, Howard Zin
Speaker 2: did not go on with that proposal. Oh yeah, Nathan,
Speaker 2: I enjoyed. I enjoyed this conversation. Say hello to all
Speaker 2: my friends. That fire the foundation of individual rights and expression.
Speaker 2: Keep on keeping on, my friend.
Speaker 5: Thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Dan, You're very welcome. We'll have you back, Nathan Honeycott
Speaker 2: of Fire and how can folks before you leave, Nathan,
Speaker 2: get more information on this great organization founded and co
Speaker 2: founded by our great friend Harvey Silverglade.
Speaker 5: Yeah, visit us online. Our website is thefire dot org.
Speaker 2: That's perfect. That's perfect, the fire two words mesh together,
Speaker 2: the fire dot Org. Thanks, Nathan, we'll talk again. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. All right, well, we we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about the concept of sacred rest with doctor Sandra
Speaker 2: Sondra excuse me, Sonda Sonda Dalton Smith. Uh, we're gonna
Speaker 2: We're gonna get you. We're gonna get you in a
Speaker 2: situation to recover your life, renew your energy, and restore
Speaker 2: your sanity, all in about seven or eight minutes. I'm
Speaker 2: up on the other side of this break on Nightside
Speaker 2: right here in w BZ, Boston's news radio. My name
Speaker 2: is Dan Rayyo, your host, your congenial host. Back on
Speaker 2: Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray, Mine from the window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Want to welcome to Nightside doctor Sanda Dalton Smith. She's
Speaker 2: an author and board certified internal medicine doctor. Welcome, doctor
Speaker 2: Dalton Smith. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: So we're talking about your newest book, Sacred Rest. Recover
Speaker 2: your life, renew your energy, restore your sanity. Talk to
Speaker 2: Dalton Smith. It sounds so easy. Is it really that easy?
Speaker 3: Easy might not be the best word. It's doable.
Speaker 2: I like doable. Go ahead. I'm just having a little
Speaker 2: fun with you. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people, rest is something
Speaker 3: that we struggle. It's just because we don't really fully
Speaker 3: understand what it is. We think rest and sleep are
Speaker 3: the same thing, and they are not. Sleep is a
Speaker 3: part of rest, but there are a lot more components
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. The subtitle recover your life,
Speaker 2: renew your energy, restore your sanity. What can people do?
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people out there one who
Speaker 2: have trouble sleeping. I luckily am not in that category.
Speaker 2: If I'm awake fifteen seconds after I put my head
Speaker 2: on on the pillow, I know I'm in trouble. But
Speaker 2: not everyone is that lucky. My problem is I used
Speaker 2: to be able to sleep in easily, like on a
Speaker 2: Saturday or Sunday, I would sleep in nine thirty ten
Speaker 2: o'clock and feel great. But it's tough to do that
Speaker 2: when you're on a schedule like I am, where you
Speaker 2: normally are getting up seven thirty or eight o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning, and that's considered late because you're going to
Speaker 2: get the day going. Give us some advice as to
Speaker 2: what people is it. Is it smart? Let me ask
Speaker 2: you that is it smart to occasionally try to load
Speaker 2: up on your sleep, catch up on your sleep? Just
Speaker 2: turn the turn the alarm clock off on a Saturday
Speaker 2: or Sunday and you're off day and just snooze the
Speaker 2: morning away or is that a bad idea.
Speaker 3: Yes, marathons don't typically work. That's what I call those
Speaker 3: where we're trying to get it all in at the
Speaker 3: same time. Uh, it's more helpful for the body when
Speaker 3: you do as you mentioned, you have some regularity to
Speaker 3: your sleep schedule. Our body has a normal circadian rhythm,
Speaker 3: so it has patterns that it wants to follow. When
Speaker 3: we break too far outside of those patterns, it creates
Speaker 3: its own stress. Some people, if they try to sleep longer,
Speaker 3: we'll even get headaches or body aches and actually feel
Speaker 3: bad when they try to prolong those those periods of sleeping.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we now know what we what I should
Speaker 2: not be doing. What about the question of I'm hearing
Speaker 2: now that as people get older they need less sleep.
Speaker 2: What is this such a thing as the average person
Speaker 2: or the average American in terms of what their sleep
Speaker 2: requirements should be.
Speaker 3: I don't believe so. I think you know, when we
Speaker 3: look at sleep, when we look at the number of
Speaker 3: hours if people sleep, they range really from some people
Speaker 3: say they need five hours and they're perfectly good. Some
Speaker 3: people say they need nine to ten. And really what
Speaker 3: we're noticing is that when people get higher quality sleep.
Speaker 3: When they get higher levels and longer periods of non
Speaker 3: rim deep sleep, the stage three and four non rim
Speaker 3: deep sleep, that's when they feel restored. So some people
Speaker 3: are able to go into deeper levels of sleep more
Speaker 3: quickly and some take a longer time. And really most
Speaker 3: of my research, and what you mentioned is in my
Speaker 3: book Sacred Rest, is specifically looking at the RESTful things
Speaker 3: that were storative processes that actually help us get into
Speaker 3: deeper levels of sleep. My research is based around there
Speaker 3: being seven different areas of rest that we need, seven
Speaker 3: different ways our body needs to enter into restorative cycles.
Speaker 3: And when we omit some of those, you can get
Speaker 3: eight hours of sleep even or nine or ten, and
Speaker 3: you'll still wake up exhausted because your body isn't rested
Speaker 3: in one of these other seven areas.
Speaker 2: When I talked about sleep to friends of mine, I
Speaker 2: usual to say eight is great, nine is fine, and
Speaker 2: eleven is heaven. But we'll leave that. I want people
Speaker 2: to buy your book, But are there tips in the
Speaker 2: book as how people can change their patterns in terms of,
Speaker 2: you know, how soon they go to bed, maybe what
Speaker 2: they when they eat or drink before they go to bed,
Speaker 2: you know, Obviously, I think most people are smart enough
Speaker 2: not to have a huge meal at nine o'clock at
Speaker 2: night and expect to get a RESTful night's sleep. But
Speaker 2: are there some tips in the book that people would
Speaker 2: benefit from.
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, particularly if you're that person who is sleep you know,
Speaker 3: staying in bed eight nine, ten hours and waking up
Speaker 3: still exhausted. When someone's tired, The question that we tend
Speaker 3: to have people start reflecting on is what kind of
Speaker 3: tired are you? What is the area where you actually
Speaker 3: have a rest deficit? Is it physical, mental, spiritual, emotional, social, sensory,
Speaker 3: or creative? Those are the seven types of rest and.
Speaker 2: All of the above sea do you have all of
Speaker 2: the above category there too?
Speaker 3: Holy kitty, Some people do, yes, especially if you're someone
Speaker 3: who's on the verge of burnout. So those people who say,
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like I'm burned out, they tend
Speaker 3: to have sleep or rest deficits, I should say, in
Speaker 3: multiple of those areas. And unfortunately, you know a lot
Speaker 3: of people if they laid it down to go to
Speaker 3: sleep at night and they can't shut their brain off,
Speaker 3: well that mental rest deficit will actually keep them from
Speaker 3: going into sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I keep going even when I'm sleeping. I
Speaker 2: mean to be honest with you, That's the one thing
Speaker 2: I My best RESTful night is when I don't have
Speaker 2: a dream. I don't think about anything. I just stay awake.
Speaker 2: I stay asleep. What is that one or two tips?
Speaker 2: I don't want you to give the book away, but
Speaker 2: one of two tips people can do who are listening
Speaker 2: right now that they can try before they go to
Speaker 2: bed tonight, that might help them in the short term
Speaker 2: at least.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and I'm more than happy to. As I
Speaker 3: often say, we tend to give the secrets away quite
Speaker 3: freely from within the book within our rest quiz. I'll
Speaker 3: share about that in a moment. But to two tips
Speaker 3: that we find, particularly if you're someone with a mental
Speaker 3: rest deficit, you have busy brain. You're thinking all the
Speaker 3: thoughts before going to bed. Something as simple as a
Speaker 3: brain dump, So having a notepad where you're jotting down
Speaker 3: whatever the ruminating thoughts are, because those ruminating thoughts will
Speaker 3: have you'll think about them for long periods into the night,
Speaker 3: and it actually keeps your brain from turning off. So
Speaker 3: jotting it down sometime is a quick way for the
Speaker 3: brain to release it. Another thing is if you struggle
Speaker 3: with that is using something like white noise or background
Speaker 3: rhythmic noises because the brain will attach to following that
Speaker 3: particular the pattern and it will help you to kind
Speaker 3: of release some other thoughts. Cooler temperatures. Most people sleep
Speaker 3: better when the room is cool rather than being overheated.
Speaker 3: And then making sure that you do that. You are
Speaker 3: aware of blue light and how your body responds to it.
Speaker 3: A simple tip. If your clock sitting at the bedside
Speaker 3: is pointing towards you and it has a bright red
Speaker 3: or blue light, turn the clock away from you.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you need to say it, you can
Speaker 3: go look, but don't have it shining in your face.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. Look, I could do
Speaker 2: a lot more with you and maybe what we could
Speaker 2: do some night if it's okay with you, doctor Dalton Smith,
Speaker 2: I could make it up to you. These interviews are great,
Speaker 2: but we don't incorporate callers. I could bring it back.
Speaker 2: We could do an hour some night on this whole
Speaker 2: question and take take questions from listeners and calls from listeners.
Speaker 2: If you'll be up for that one, my producer, get
Speaker 2: in touch with your PR person Corey Newman.
Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Doctor Sunda Dalton Smith the book Sacred
Speaker 2: rest Recover your life, renew your energy, and restore your sanity.
Speaker 2: I love alliteration rest, recover, renew, restore. I like that.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, doctor, Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. When we get back, go and talk a
Speaker 2: little football. Bill Belichick. What the heck is he doing
Speaker 2: heading to North Carolina to become a tar Heel boy?
Speaker 2: That's something I didn't expect. We'll talk with Kyle Bray,
Speaker 2: WBZ news radio reporter and try to figure it out
Speaker 2: why coach Bill is heading south. Back on night Side
Speaker 2: right after the news at the little bit after eight thirty.
Speaker 2: But I thought she was a really good guest. At
Speaker 2: eight thirty two, here comes the.
Speaker 1: News night Side with Dan Ray on w BOST's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, the big news story sports story today should be
Speaker 2: the Red Sox signing the picture from the White Sox,
Speaker 2: but it really wasn't Bill Belichick heading to North Carolina
Speaker 2: to coach the tar Heels. Kyle Bray's been working on
Speaker 2: this story today. Kyle, I can't figure this one out
Speaker 2: from a What's I mean? Obviously, I guess Bill Belichick's
Speaker 2: doing what he wants to do. Kyle, what do you
Speaker 2: think is in his head? Here?
Speaker 4: Well, hey, Dan, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I thank you so much for you know,
Speaker 2: you were working late.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I mean I was just as puzzled
Speaker 4: as you were when I first heard this, because you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking at the second most winningest coach
Speaker 4: in NFL history, you know, whether you want to debate
Speaker 4: Schula or not, probably the greatest coach of all time,
Speaker 4: and he's saying, you know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: pack my bags and I'm gonna go back to school. No,
Speaker 4: it's it's very perplexing. But there there are definitely a
Speaker 4: lot of things that makes sense to me about this move,
Speaker 4: even if you know it.
Speaker 2: It's okay, give me a couple because obviously there's fifty
Speaker 2: million things because I believe he signed a five years
Speaker 2: for ten MILLI a year. Yeah uh. And obviously he
Speaker 2: could probably walk away at any point because if some
Speaker 2: really good, underperforming NFL team came to knocking, he could
Speaker 2: walk away.
Speaker 4: But you know what, the biggest difference I think that
Speaker 4: you'll see versus you know, him taking an NFL job
Speaker 4: and you know, going to the college game, is that
Speaker 4: as a as a college coach, you pretty much have
Speaker 4: complete control. I mean you are in charge of, you know,
Speaker 4: what schemes your team's gonna run. You're in charge of
Speaker 4: what players you're bringing in. I mean, obviously the landscape
Speaker 4: has drastically changed in recent years. You know now that
Speaker 4: you're allowed to pay athletes with these name image and
Speaker 4: likekness deals. But he's not gonna have to worry about
Speaker 4: an overbearing owner sort of controlling everything, because I mean
Speaker 4: that that was he kind of he had the reins
Speaker 4: completely during his time in New England. You know, he
Speaker 4: was in charge of all the plays they put out,
Speaker 4: he was in charge of who they brought in. And
Speaker 4: you know, in the later years of his tenure here,
Speaker 4: you know, the you know, ownership seemed like it was
Speaker 4: really starting to sink its teeth into what he was doing.
Speaker 4: And and I think that bothered him because I know
Speaker 4: that he was linked with the Jacksonville job in the NFL,
Speaker 4: but people were talking about how they would have to
Speaker 4: get rid of their GM if they wanted to bring
Speaker 4: him in. And that was the same when he was
Speaker 4: going for the job in Atlanta and I think now
Speaker 4: that you know he's there, he doesn't really have anyone
Speaker 4: kind of overseeing him. It's the you know, the buck
Speaker 4: stops at him. He gets to make all those decisions.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's huge for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I know one of his
Speaker 2: former assistant coaches pretty well, and I have some insight
Speaker 2: into what went on down in Atlanta. I think he
Speaker 2: was I think he thought that deal was done and
Speaker 2: I had that from a what I would consider to
Speaker 2: be a pretty good source, and it fell apart, not
Speaker 2: on his end, but on the Atlanta end. So maybe
Speaker 2: he just got tired of the gamesmanship within the NFL.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you he doesn't have He might be
Speaker 2: the boss of the football program down there, but they
Speaker 2: have something that most major colleges, the Alumni Association. If
Speaker 2: he wins, they will build a shrine to him. But
Speaker 2: if he doesn't win after a couple of years, and
Speaker 2: UNC has not been a powerhouse football program, although obviously
Speaker 2: Drake May the Patriots quarterback, came out of UNC. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, definitely. I mean under Mac Brown they had some
Speaker 4: they had some moments. I mean this year they went
Speaker 4: six and six. They're going to be playing in the
Speaker 4: Fenway Bowl actually, which is pretty exciting. You know, maybe
Speaker 4: Belichick's not supposed to coach that game, but he might
Speaker 4: be in attendance.
Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely think he would want to be there
Speaker 2: to watch because some of those guys on the team,
Speaker 2: He's not going to turn that that roster over completely.
Speaker 2: They'll be changes, graduating seniors and maybe some players will
Speaker 2: decide to get in the portal and leave. But who
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just no, Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you think the key? What do you think
Speaker 2: the key was? I mean, was it it was? It
Speaker 2: could have been the money because he could have gotten
Speaker 2: just as much money in the NFL.
Speaker 4: You I think a lot of it has to do
Speaker 4: with that. And then also, I mean in his prens
Speaker 4: conference today, he just said, you know, he just loves
Speaker 4: to coach. I think that, you know, I mean, he
Speaker 4: was he was pretty good on some of the media circuits.
Speaker 1: He was doing.
Speaker 4: But I mean, we know from anything, you know, Bill
Speaker 4: Belichick and the media are not exactly you know, they
Speaker 4: He has had his spats, but you know, I think
Speaker 4: he just really wanted to get on the field, and
Speaker 4: I think, you know, NFL teams didn't want to give
Speaker 4: him that control. And I think he he looked at
Speaker 4: this opportunity, as you know, and I get to be
Speaker 4: get to be on a field, and I get to
Speaker 4: build a build a program from the ground up. I
Speaker 4: mean the you mentioned, you know, the the he'll want
Speaker 4: to see those players. I mean, this is a tremendous
Speaker 4: opportunity for any players that are that are on un see.
Speaker 4: I mean you in the college football landscape right now,
Speaker 4: you see so many people, you know, kids transferring because
Speaker 4: they're not getting enough playing time. You know they're transferring
Speaker 4: or you know, sitting out seasons because they're not getting
Speaker 4: enough money. I mean that this is now, like I
Speaker 4: would argue if you want to go to if you're
Speaker 4: a start player that thinks that they're a star and
Speaker 4: wants to go to the NFL, I mean, this would
Speaker 4: be the best place to do it. I mean there's
Speaker 4: really no one else better to learn from than Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4: I mean it's only gonna time. Only time will really
Speaker 4: tell the results on if he, you know, can bring
Speaker 4: his you know, mindset to the college game and you know,
Speaker 4: if he can have success in that conference. But you know,
Speaker 4: I was when I was working today. I saw comments
Speaker 4: from a former Patriot player, Logan Ryan. He was talking
Speaker 4: on CBS Sports and he was basically like, if you're
Speaker 4: a if you're a transfer player, like and you you
Speaker 4: really want to make that push to go pro, like,
Speaker 4: why would you not consider UNC? I mean, to get
Speaker 4: a chance to learn from maybe the greatest coach that's
Speaker 4: ever coached the game. I mean that's I mean, that
Speaker 4: seems like a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Well, it's this is another factor and I'd love to
Speaker 2: get your reaction to it. I'm a sports guy. I
Speaker 2: know you're a sports guy, and not that either of us,
Speaker 2: you know, make our living covering sports. You cover a
Speaker 2: lot of different news stories. But Belichick's success at New
Speaker 2: England was over a period of twenty years, and he
Speaker 2: had a pretty good quarterback for most of those years,
Speaker 2: and when the quarterback left, the team sort of went away.
Speaker 2: So you can have you can draft a quarterback like
Speaker 2: Drake May who's twenty two or twenty three years old,
Speaker 2: and you can say, okay, ten years minimum, maybe fifteen.
Speaker 2: Anybody who he brings into UNCEE three years, four years max.
Speaker 2: That's a different sort of situation that he's now going
Speaker 2: to find himself in and I wonder how difficult that
Speaker 2: will make it. You know, you start to get somebody
Speaker 2: good and all of a sudden they're going to boom,
Speaker 2: then they go, yeah, they're not there long. It's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I wonder if he'll have the patience
Speaker 2: because I don't think Belichick is someone who's imbued with
Speaker 2: a lot of patience. I don't know him at all,
Speaker 2: but I don't think patience is probably his strong suit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I could certainly see that. I mean, you
Speaker 4: bring up a good point where I mean, and especially
Speaker 4: if he's being successful, he'll probably only have three years
Speaker 4: because some of those kids will probably want to declare
Speaker 4: for the draft. And he talked a little bit in
Speaker 4: his press conference today about how, you know, developing players
Speaker 4: is really important to him. He mentioned, you know, Brady
Speaker 4: was a fourth stringer his first year. You know, Gronk Edelman,
Speaker 4: you know those guys, they went through a lot of
Speaker 4: development in their time. But you know, I mean, you're right,
Speaker 4: you know, getting to work with these work these kids
Speaker 4: for such a short period of time, will that payoff?
Speaker 4: And I mean, you look at some of the issues
Speaker 4: that they had that the Pats had in his final season.
Speaker 4: You know, offensively, they weren't strong and the personnel that
Speaker 4: they were bringing in weren't up to the caliber that
Speaker 4: you would expect the past Patriots teams. And in college
Speaker 4: recruiting is so much more important than it really is
Speaker 4: in the NFL because you have such a wide pool,
Speaker 4: and you know with now with nil deals. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know that reportedly UNC is increasing their nil pool
Speaker 4: to help him sort of entice more players there. But
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, like it's
Speaker 4: is he gonna be able to do the recruiting that's required.
Speaker 4: I mean, because I mean, obviously he has a pretty
Speaker 4: good pitch. You know, Hey, I'm Bill Belichick. I'm the
Speaker 4: greatest coach of all time. Come play for me. But
Speaker 4: you know that there are coaches that have to put
Speaker 4: it a lot, a lot of legwork to get these
Speaker 4: deals done. And sometimes, you know, you put in all
Speaker 4: this work, you've you've got the money on the table,
Speaker 4: you got them all excited, and then they just flip
Speaker 4: at the last second. And I can't imagine what what
Speaker 4: we'll be going through Bill Belichick's head the first time
Speaker 4: he has a recruit flip on him at the signing day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you gotta you have to go most
Speaker 2: of these college coaches, maybe Belichick would be the exception,
Speaker 2: but you have to go to the to the home
Speaker 2: of the kid. You gotta get on on a puddle
Speaker 2: jumper maybe, and go to wherever the talented players are
Speaker 2: and you got to meet mom and dad, and you
Speaker 2: got to schmooze a little bit. And I'm not sure
Speaker 2: he's the schmoozing type, but we'll see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, he's He's He's definitely the type of guy
Speaker 4: that kind of always gets what he wants, if at
Speaker 4: least for most of his career. So it'll be interesting
Speaker 4: to see what happens when he's got to go into
Speaker 4: those you know, he's got to go to these high
Speaker 4: school games, got to go to these living rooms and
Speaker 4: meet with you know, the whole exten family and and
Speaker 4: and give a you know, a you know, sweet talk
Speaker 4: them and whatnot. I'd love to see. I'd love to
Speaker 4: be a fly on the wall and see that happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a buddy of mine who played basketball
Speaker 2: at BC when Bob Coosey was a coach, and he
Speaker 2: told me it was just amazing, you know, Bob Cousy
Speaker 2: became the coach at BC right after his NBA career
Speaker 2: with the Celtics finished. And uh, he said, Bob Coosey
Speaker 2: walks into our house and he's asking me to play
Speaker 2: on his college But it was like done deals just
Speaker 2: by walking to the door. But I'm not sure that
Speaker 2: that the same sort of magic is going to occur
Speaker 2: when when Wody walks in the door. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Gole. I enjoyed the conversation. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you for having back.
Speaker 2: Come on back whenever you can, and don't forget to
Speaker 2: put in for some overtime tonight. Okay, definitely, thank you. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna flip from school. This is like a regular newscast,
Speaker 2: going to go to weather next. Where do we stand
Speaker 2: with the drought. We're gonna be talking with an ACU
Speaker 2: weather meteorologist. I'm pretty sure. Uh, we'll get to that
Speaker 2: right after this break here on Nightside, And we got
Speaker 2: lots of questions about not only the weather in the past,
Speaker 2: but what's coming up, particularly for the rest of the month.
Speaker 2: Coming back on.
Speaker 1: Nightside now back to Dan Ray live from the Window
Speaker 1: World nightside studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we a very pleased to be joined again
Speaker 2: by Matt Benz. Hey, Matt, how are you tonight? Hey
Speaker 2: doing well? How are you doing? I'm doing great, a
Speaker 2: little bit better after this rain. Look, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure this out. We had a drought that a lot
Speaker 2: of rain. Where do we stand with the drought? Are
Speaker 2: we still in the drought? We out of the drought, were.
Speaker 6: Close to the We're still We're still in the drought.
Speaker 6: So a couple yeah, I know, we keep that word going.
Speaker 6: But hey, there's a couple of different ways you can
Speaker 6: look at it. So for the year, we're actually a
Speaker 6: bob average in the precipitation department. He thinks, Okay, no drought. Yes,
Speaker 6: that's good, that's what we want to hear. But since September,
Speaker 6: September through November, that's a time period right there, we
Speaker 6: accumulated a drought deficit and rainfall of over five and
Speaker 6: a half inches. So even though we saw all this rain,
Speaker 6: you know, in the last couple of days, that now
Speaker 6: puts us about one point nine inches above average per December,
Speaker 6: we still have about another four you know, three four
Speaker 6: inches a go to really say, hey, we've recovered, because
Speaker 6: we kind of went missing there for a while in
Speaker 6: the fall months and earlier in November.
Speaker 2: So so you kind of look at like the year
Speaker 2: to date sort of thing, you know, almost got to
Speaker 2: do it. Obviously, we were in a drought in October
Speaker 2: and started in September, but we've now had more precipitation
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four than we had in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: Yeah, since it would be about correct. And yeah, it
Speaker 6: kind of weird that we're in the severe drought, but
Speaker 6: sometimes that's kind of how drought goes. It goes by,
Speaker 6: So it's not like it's not like the way it's
Speaker 6: been going slightly.
Speaker 2: But it's what I'm saying is you got to think
Speaker 2: of it differently. It's not like a baseball season. A
Speaker 2: win in April is just as good as a win
Speaker 2: in August. You know, you want to get the number
Speaker 2: of rights to get the play. That's not quite it's
Speaker 2: not linear. So how much more rain would we need
Speaker 2: because it's going to rain next week to get out
Speaker 2: of the drought here.
Speaker 6: I think what you'll see is, especially after this wet
Speaker 6: start to the month, you're gonna see a dent in.
Speaker 6: You know, when the drought monitor comes out right now,
Speaker 6: we're in that extreme drought category. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 6: that that usually updates every Thursday, and unfortunately we just
Speaker 6: kind of caught the tail end of this latest wet cycle,
Speaker 6: so to say. But I have a feeling what you're
Speaker 6: gonna see is we're gonna kind of step down gradually.
Speaker 6: So we're in the extreme danger right now. Extreme drought
Speaker 6: right now probably go to the severe to moderate maybe,
Speaker 6: you know, by next week, and especially if we get
Speaker 6: the rain, I think you'll quickly see things improving here
Speaker 6: across the area. But just because it was so dry
Speaker 6: in the fall months, that really set us on the
Speaker 6: stage where where we're at right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know this is not your department, but are
Speaker 2: there any brush fire is still burning in Massachusetts? I
Speaker 2: know they have some problems out in California, but I
Speaker 2: assume that our chance of brush fire has has diminished
Speaker 2: remarkably over.
Speaker 6: The last few Yeah, especially with the especially with the
Speaker 6: rain that we've had. Now you've gotten you know, the
Speaker 6: at least a cut top soil top. They call it
Speaker 6: the duff, the all the leaf matter and stuff. Now
Speaker 6: that that's all really good and soap. That fire danger
Speaker 6: has gone down. Of course, if you get any long
Speaker 6: term drying trend for a couple of weeks, that could return,
Speaker 6: but at least for now, that fire danger has come
Speaker 6: down quite a bit.
Speaker 2: And then the other question, of course, that everyone wants
Speaker 2: me to ask you, is we're going to have any
Speaker 2: snow by Christmas.
Speaker 6: There's a big question. And here's what I can tell
Speaker 6: you right now. Right now, ACI Weather has some confidence
Speaker 6: that we're going to get another real cold shot of
Speaker 6: air here right before Christmas. And the big question is
Speaker 6: is that going to include snow. So we're gonna go
Speaker 6: through this weekend, it's gonna be chilly, we're gonna get
Speaker 6: into next week and it's gonna kind of warm up again,
Speaker 6: and you're kind of gonna think, well, we're not going
Speaker 6: to get back to that cold, winter like weather again.
Speaker 6: But it does look like winter will turn at least
Speaker 6: with regards to cold air here probably after the twenty
Speaker 6: first and going towards Christmas. The big question is can
Speaker 6: we get some sort of moisture with that colder air,
Speaker 6: And that's kind of hard to say right now. Right now,
Speaker 6: our forecast looks like a low percent chance for a
Speaker 6: light Christmas here in Boston, but a little bit shift
Speaker 6: in the pattern could change that.
Speaker 2: What's the long term for the balance of the winter.
Speaker 2: I read somewhere today that we are expecting, well, they
Speaker 2: didn't have much snow last winter, but that we are
Speaker 2: expecting more snow at least than last winter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we are expecting more snow than last winter, but
Speaker 6: still below the historical average of what we'd expect for
Speaker 6: a winter period. We're kind of on a fine line.
Speaker 6: I think northern New England, especially once you get into
Speaker 6: the interior Vermont, New Hampshire up into northern Maine, those
Speaker 6: areas could overperform this winter. But we're going to be
Speaker 6: right on that boundary where we're going to get into
Speaker 6: these sloppy sides of these storms. We're probably going to
Speaker 6: get more rain and then some snow, but overall we
Speaker 6: expect the balance of snow to be higher than last year,
Speaker 6: but perhaps below the historical average for the year.
Speaker 2: Matt, let me ask you this. When you go to
Speaker 2: parties and people say, hey, what sort of what's on
Speaker 2: a line of work you win, Matt, I kind of
Speaker 2: assume that you really don't tell on your meteorologists, because
Speaker 2: I assumed every question for the for the balance of
Speaker 2: the parties. What about this? What about that? Do you
Speaker 2: get that when you get out in social settings, I'm
Speaker 2: assuming you do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you also get you know, you get
Speaker 6: paid for being wrong all the time, and you know
Speaker 6: all that different stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so they'll ask you what the forecast is
Speaker 2: and then they'll insult you. Oh yeah, that would be.
Speaker 6: But yes, I kind of keep it a little down
Speaker 6: low when you go out some days.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, with a name like Ben's last name, Matt,
Speaker 2: Ben's what's some of your car dealer or.
Speaker 6: Something like that, I get to add as my my
Speaker 6: daughter's name, Mercedes. You know, I get that a lot.
Speaker 6: So yeah, all sorts of fun jokes that come up. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's great, that's great, Matt, to get a great sense
Speaker 6: of humor. Always enjoy talking to you, particularly now that
Speaker 6: a little bit of.
Speaker 2: The pressure is off. I was down the Cape for
Speaker 2: most of the summer and well into the fall, and
Speaker 2: it was amazingly beautiful in the Cape. I know it
Speaker 2: cost a lot of aggravation up here, but it was
Speaker 2: spectacular September and you know, an opulent October in terms
Speaker 2: of how we were doing, and uh, you know if
Speaker 2: you had anything to do with that, Matt, I just
Speaker 2: on behalf of everyone down in the Cape. I want
Speaker 2: to say thank you very much, well, thank you and
Speaker 2: and you're welcome.
Speaker 6: I just did it for the Cape though, and not
Speaker 6: for everyone else because I know we needed the rain elsewhere.
Speaker 2: AH got you, I got you, all right, Matt, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. We'll talk again. Okay, all right, sounds good.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having all right, my pleasure, my pleasure, absolutely
Speaker 2: always like to talk with Matt Benn's. Okay, when we
Speaker 2: get back, let me give you a quick rundown on
Speaker 2: what we're going to be doing tonight, because I think
Speaker 2: it's important. We'll be opening up those f FO will
Speaker 2: actually be Rob will be opening up the phone line.
Speaker 2: It's going to talk about the level of empathy and
Speaker 2: I guess you could almost stay sympathy shown for this guy,
Speaker 2: Luigi Mengioni, the guy charging the murder of US Healthcare
Speaker 2: CEO Brian Thompson troubling, including some comments made by our
Speaker 2: own Senator Elizabeth Warren. We'll get into that. Also, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk with a criminologist named Scott Bond. We've
Speaker 2: had him on before. He has an expertise in serial killers.
Speaker 2: Now again, this guy, to the best of our knowledge,
Speaker 2: is not a serial killer. But we're going to talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about what goes into the minds of
Speaker 2: these folks and the Later on tonight, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about those mysterious drones over New Jersey and of
Speaker 2: all the places in America, why would anyone be flying
Speaker 2: in drones over New Jersey. I mean there's really well,
Speaker 2: there's a couple of military bases there, you get, right,
Speaker 2: Air Force Base Fort Dix and all that. But so
Speaker 2: we're gonna that's Those are the topics for the night
Speaker 2: stay with us always welcoming new callers feel free as
Speaker 2: well as old callers. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this