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Speaker 1: What is up Fellasicico's I Am Dan Valley coming at

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you once again with more Jensen of the NBA podcast,

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name of Yahoo Sports fame and of OnlyFans celebrity as

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well as Forbes fame too, just famous all over the

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place around these corners of the internet. We're carrying on

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with asking our biggest questions for every NBA team this offseason.

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We are going division by division. This is our third installment.

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We have done the Southeast and the Southwest and we

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are on to the Pacific Division. Before we get started,

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mister Jensen, do you have anything that you would like

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to say?

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, putting me on the spot, like politically known,

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you know what. I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: The Golden State Warriors are first up. More, what is

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your biggest question for them?

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Speaker 2: Uh? How do they optimize this old court that they

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that they have. I think I think they did something

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very bold and something good in giving Steph someone else

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to work with in Jimmy but most yeah, oh him too,

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Yes for sure. But like obviously you're left with a

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lot of questions here, like what is this team going

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to look like moving forward? Can you build on the

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current core, what's gonna happen to Jonathan Kumingaz He's going

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to be a part of it. Can you flip him

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for another veteran? Like? I just want to know what

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their plan is to optimize, you know, Steph Draymond, Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: I'm that is That's the only question that I think

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actually matters. But it ties into what I was actually

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surprised you didn't pick this one and now I get

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to pick it. What is going to happen with Jonathan

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Kaminga going into restricted free agency? And I know the

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preference for both sides is apparently to work out a

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sign in trade. We've gone over before on this podcast.

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Base your compensation makes that a little bit difficult. Effectively,

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if Jonathan Amena gets a thirty million dollar salary, he

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only accounts for fifteen million in outgoing money for Golden State,

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that makes pulling off a trade pretty difficult. You could

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rope in third and fourth parties. You could hope it's

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the nets that are on the other side of it.

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What do you do as Golden State, like is it

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do you look at this as do you think let's

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start here? Do you think that Kaminga can functionally work

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alongside Jimmy Butler, Steph and Draymond, And it's not really

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a Steph question so much as a Draymond and Jimmy

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Butler question.

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Speaker 2: Right, Uh, are we going to anticipate him becoming a

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dramatically better shooter over the course of summer? Because if so, yeah,

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I can see it. If not, eh, that's gonna be rough.

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I actually, like Kamenka, I think we've I think the

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skepticism and criticism that he's been getting at such a

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young age has actually been a little too much. I

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do think, like I think someone, I do think not someone.

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to call it, have been at a little too aggressive

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in tearing him down. Because, yes, he does have obvious weaknesses,

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especially floor spacing, and you know, he's kind of stuck

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between positions. He's twenty two years old. He's twenty two,

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he's super young. He's still supremely productive. I do think

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there is a way where he can find his way

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elsewhere on in a different team. So I'm not like

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sitting here saying, oh, his rest of the rest of

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his career is going to be bullshit. I think that

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just that's way too harsh. He also by the way,

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something that seems to fly under the radar with him

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over that entire discourse, his ability to get to the

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foul line is absurdly good. So, like, there are a

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lot of components of him that I like, but you're right,

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specifically on this roster next to Jimmy, next to Draymond.

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It's so hard to justify a guy who's not much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, the rim sure is divine, and as

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you said, the foul drawing, Like there's really only Jimmy

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Butler who can do that at a similar level. As

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he gets older and he's just prone to being passive

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on offense, you need that even more. But I think

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what also makes this complicated is you're not at a

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point where you can concede a lot necessarily on defense

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unless you think that Jimmy Butler can be your kind

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of point of attack guy, which I just don't think

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that's his best role at this stage of his career.

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sacrifice you made with Andrew Wiggins, like giving up Andrew

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Wigs that deals it became very important, Like someone like

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is just like the rebounding. So if you're playing that lineup,

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you're not having another center on the court. And so

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Jonathan Kaminga as your front court? And then just the

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numbers on it. Golden State net rating of minus fourteen

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point nine yea when Kaminga played with those other three guys,

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Steph Green and Butler. Now you can take Steph out

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of there and it gets even worse at a net

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ratings minus twenty five. But we saw under one hundred

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possession of this. So I think you could say the

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jury is still out, but I think that you're gonna

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kind of what you need to work with, at least

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until the trade deadline. I just worry about, Yeah, how

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than consensus, but I still think that there could be

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a really good basketball player in there, and he's shown

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it for some extended pockets. I just don't know how

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do you do that on this roster to where the

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question is, well, how do you optimize him? We're talking

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about some of the redundancies that he has with Draymond

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Green and Jimmy Butler spatially at least, But also you

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don't do you have the stomach if you're going to

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try new things with him, or if you're banking on

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his three pointer coming along, if you think you could

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be more of a play finisher coming off screens, what

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is your stomach for testing this stuff out? Because I

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think some people's biggest complaints with the Warriors is that

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Cominga's either had a quick hook an inconsistent role however

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you want to frame it. But the stakes are so

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high that do you necessarily have the leeway to see

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what you can get in Kaminga like out of Kaminga

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with this group. But and before I throw it back

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to you, the upshot of all this is you don't

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really to me as of right now, I don't think

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you really have a choice. I don't know what the

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sign and trade out there is, Like the nets really

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need to be interested in Jonathan Kmena. It feels like

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where maybe there's something to Jonathan Kaminga, there's other moving

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parts and you're getting Cam Johnson back from Brooklyn, and

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then otherwise it's you're hoping that you can sign him

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to a contract that age is well, and you can

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move at the trade deadline should he not fit. But

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then I'm also sitting here wondering, you don't think there's

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any chance because there was a report from Anthony Slater

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or the Athletic that Cominga still thinks he's a future

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All Star. If you're Jonathan Kaminga, is there any chance

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that he would just sign his qualifying offer, play out

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next year with a no trade clause, and then you

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hardball in this market, because again, where is the above

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the mid level offer coming from for Kaminga in free agency?

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Speaker 2: If there is a guy out there who's a genuine

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threat to take the q QO, it's Cominga in my eyes,

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for the reasons that you just outlined. They absolutely they

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being Comena and his team, his agent. They are well

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aware that teams outside the Warriors just don't have cap space.

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as over the cap team.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, after Kid getting the bump because of all MBA,

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it's just you're not gonna do if you have cap space?

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Would you would you rather have cap space? Or you

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can have the non taxpayer mid level exception that you

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let's say you're given on Michael Michael Beasley, Wow, Malik Beasley,

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and then you can keep Dennis Sruter and Tim hartwid junior.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, prime my obastly on that Pistons team. Wouldn't

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hate it, wouldn't hate it? No, Yeah, exactly, So there

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aren't going to be money out there, is the long

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and short of it. So from the Warriors perspective, yeah,

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I'm absolutely trying to re sign him and then use

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him as a trade chip at the trade deadline instead. Absolutely,

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that's the right call for the Warriors specifically because you

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don't want to end up in a situation where it

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becomes the sign and trade and like we can even

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set the salaries aside, there are going to be some

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teams that are also cautious about going into sign and

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trade scenarios because that would hard cap them. There are

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a who bunch of consequences here, So the best thing

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for the Warriors would be to lock him up and

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then just flip him in February next year. Kuminga might disagree, though,

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because he and his team are well aware that they're

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going to try to squeeze him. They know that they're

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going to look at a contract that's probably going to

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be below what he can get on the open kid

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in twenty twenty six. So I am not ruling out

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whatsoever him picking up the qualifying offer. Also because it

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love there where he's like devoted to this franchise or

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vice versa. It seems like they're pretty much in agreement

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that HM like we're open to seeking things elsewhere. So

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for him to kind of screw them over a little

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bit and say, look, I'm gonna be a twenty three

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year old unrestricted free agent next year who who statistically

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is supremely productive, I could see why he would bet

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on himself in that regard, and the Warriors are in

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a situation where they can't just bench him, like they're

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still going to need the production on some level, be

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that off the bench or whatever. Like they he's too

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good to just mothball, so like his value is not

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gonna decree, and smart seams around the league would even

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still look into him if they did mothball him because

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the no context nowadays, this is in the eighties, Like

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you understand the context. So it's gonna be interesting. It's

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one of those situations that I'm monitoring pretty closely because

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I'm pretty sure that we're gonna get some some spiciness

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not the only thing, but like if Kaminga does go

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the QO route, there's maybe he's young enough to where

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it wouldn't matter. But like if he goes in and

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has another season like he did this year or worse,

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waiting for He could leave, Yeah, he could go somewhere maybe,

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but that becomes like this long term, like this multi

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year bet on yourself swhere. Now I'm gonna go somewhere

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else and establish my value and then get paid. So

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that's the risk. But I do agree with you that

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there's no like I wouldn't even say that it's just

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this summer, but like in recent years, like this is

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probably one of the cases where it's yeah, Miles Bridges

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ended up doing it. But aside from that, I don't

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remember a case where it feels more possible that you

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go that route. And because if you're the Warriors, you

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know you mentioned preserve the asset, like taking into the

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trade deadline, it's tricky because you need to make sure

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that the price is right then, because you already know

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that he has been an awkward fit so far, even

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if you believe in him, you have to account for well,

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maybe that stays the same, and so we're going to

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be needing to move him on this money. So I'm

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fascinated to see how that plays out, this whole situation

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with with Golden State, we move on to the Los

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Angeles Clippers. What is your biggest question for them? More?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, h is one of them.

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Speaker 1: They did the question about age, their age, Well, their.

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Speaker 2: Age ken they roll it back? Is kind of my

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question here based on their age. They did surprisingly well

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this year. This was not a team I had pegged for,

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you know, being this good, this potent at all. I

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the into a dome, and lo and behold, they strung

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together a strong ass defense and an offense that I

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thought was very underrated all things considered. You know, they're

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getting up there in age, hardened mid thirties, Kawhi mid thirties.

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there are a lot of these guys where each is

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becoming a factor. Do they just roll it back? Do

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they try to build? Do they try to pivot just

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slightly to like get younger, to get those guys more breaks?

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Like what is their plan there? Like are they just

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hoping for a duplicated season next year from what they

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had this year? Are they willing to take a short

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step back to get younger and then the season after

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is when they explode? Or are they all in for

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next season.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, and I don't actually know the answer.

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They're one of the more fascinating teams because they were

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so good. I think you can make the case that,

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like leading into the playoffs with that offensive uptick they

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experience mid season. It made you believe like, oh, they

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could absolutely win it all, like maybe they would have been.

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I think it turned out Denver was clearly the best

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matchup for the Thunder, But that I had the thought of,

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is Los Angeles like the best matchup for OKC in

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the Western Conference? My concern and I think it's what

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it stretches into my question, and it covers some of

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the bases on yours. How is that going to impact

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how you're handling the James Harden situation and then your

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ability to I think they still need offensive help because

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you could, let's say you're counting on Kawhi Leonard to

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be even more available. Let's say you have bock Dot,

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Bogdanovich and Norman Powell. They were just too reliant on

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age thirty five James Harden and in the regular season, like, yeah,

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he was able to deliver, but the offense still had

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cracks for so long. Some of those cracks just turned

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into these like monster wide open gaps by the playoffs

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and you just need another You need someone else who

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can run the offense. And I think we've kind of

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seen that they're not even gonna ask Kuhi to do that,

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Like they're really trying to streamline his offense role even

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in the minutes that he's not playing without James Harden.

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And so how do you go about juggling all these

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things what you mentioned where you're juggling the long term,

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but now you have this James Harden as a player option.

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What are you doing? And there's there a way for

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you to resign James Harden on a deal that one

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preserves your access to most or all of the bigger

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mid level exception which is worth fourteen point one million.

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And then two is that contract at length to where

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it kind of aligns with the rest of your books,

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where we KNOWWHI Leonard coming off the books in two years?

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Are you able to schedule it all that way so

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that you have the option of taking this not necessarily

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year by year, but you can kind of reevaluate at

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that point if you decide it's time for more of

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a wholesale pivot, maybe even a rebuild. You're not worried

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about having one of these older guys on the books

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for longer than the other. It's an interesting balancing act

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for them, But I would guess and I think this

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is the right move, especially when you look at their

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draft pick obligations. They're gonna try and win next season.

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I just don't know the extent to how aggressive they're

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gonna be this offseason, and I think they have I'd

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like to see them get a different backup look at

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the five, too, But I really think that they need

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to get more. I don't want to say it has

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to be a point guard, but it has to be

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a game manager on this team because they just don't

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the secondary. They don't have it anymore. Whether you I

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don't care. It's not Kawhi, it's not Bogdanovich, it's certainly

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not Norman Powell. So I'm very curious to see how aggressive,

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if at all, they will be in trying to fill

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that void.

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Speaker 2: If you're not gonna say it, I'll say it. Yeah,

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they need a point guard. I have no issue saying.

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Speaker 1: It's just like the position stuff is just I you

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know what I mean, Like it's they need someone who

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could run the offense, and yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's traditionally that's called a point guard, right.

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Speaker 1: But it's positions are just malleable now, like you wouldn't

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call like it could be if you want Lebron James

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on this team, like he's a point guard. I guess

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by function, but defensively, is he a point guard? Absolutely not, dude.

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Speaker 2: Even back in the nineties, Steve Kerr called Scotti Pibtens

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their point guard. So like, you know what we mean,

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like the primary initiator?

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Speaker 1: Is that just that too for trying to be too thorough? Okay,

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nice job. I just the thing is is too It's

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not even just during the non James Harden minutes, right,

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but it's just like, provide James Harden some type of

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in game break off the ball. I know that's not

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how he's like best used all the time, but he's

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just older now. You don't want to go into this

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seeing his like his true usage spiked quite a bit

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from his first season in LA to his second season.

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I just don't think he want to be in that

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same position next year.

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Speaker 2: Would Iyudo Sumu do something for you on this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he'd add to their defense. I think

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I wonder if you would want someone who's a little

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bit better of I love Ayu, and this is the

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second podcast where I feel like I've like had to

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criticize him because I don't know that it's like the

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perfect team for him. So I think he'd be great here,

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but do you think he gives you enough of the

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he They did experiment with mall like traditional pick and

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roll stuff with him, but he still seems more suited

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to he has to drive and spray type deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's for me. It's also the

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price point, Like I'm not looking at bringing in someone

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who's gonna cost you thirty million, right, Like I have

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to be realistic with in what the Clippers can also

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relinquish and whatnot. Like I'm not even sure what the

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deal is, to be honest with you, for Io, I

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don't know what the deal is there, but I do

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think he'd being more offensive competent. That that's harsh, but

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I do feel that way than Chris Don, for example.

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be more spot up shooting, there would be more of

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a control of the offense offensively, at least defensively strong

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point of attack defender. Like, I'm not looking for a

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Steve Nash type to come in in this situation. I

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don't think that exists. I don't think that's realistic. Iowe

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to me feels like a fair compromise of a player archetype.

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Speaker 1: What would you. I guess it's Chris Paul ringions out

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of the question. With James Harden here, I'm sure I'm

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wondering if they would prefer to try and address a

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via free agency because I don't know. I guess you're

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giving up Done or Derek Jones for and then something

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else for Io because I don't know if the balls

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are gonna have interest in any one of.

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Speaker 2: The Tias Jones. What does Tyas Jones do anything for you? Defensively?

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Is not? I mean he's a small you.

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Speaker 1: Can't catulate him. Though that I wouldn't be worried about

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the defense. I think he would be an excellent fit,

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and that might be like a team that's willing to

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I don't know, like after his season in Phoenix, Like

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what team is coming in over the top with the

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full non taxpayer. I don't think that's gonna be out there.

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It wasn't out there for him last season, so I

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don't think it's gonna be out here for him this summer. Yeah,

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that'd be a really good name. What about Dennis Shrewder A.

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Speaker 2: Little too volatile for my taste. I don't hate it, though,

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Like I do think he is a guy who can

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what's the phrasing here. He's a guy who can get

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in there and just get you what you need at

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some points, and then you have to live with the

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rest that you don't want. Like that's the type of

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player that he is. Right, it's not quite Russell Westbrook

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territory where you have to live with like a long

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list of weaknesses. But there are some issues, like he

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can have long periods of inefficient for example, he can

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have long periods where the defense is not exactly as

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intuned as it was five years ago. So I don't

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hate it, but I would like to see different options.

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Speaker 1: First, I have two more names for you when I

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throw out the long shot one. I know we just

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talked about how they need to preserve their future. I

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give up part of the future to get Kobe White

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on this team. Yeah, like they have a distant First,

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they could include to match the salary I was.

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Speaker 2: Thinking about him earlier. I think generally Chicago's going to

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come up a lot on these episodes that we're doing

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right now, because if they have those two guards in

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Kobe and Io, who contractually are just in such an

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odd spot, so they're going to come up a lot

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Kobe would make a ton of sense. I just what's

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the deal?

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Speaker 1: What is lay? I think you have to include what

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is their first allowable trade, but their first allowable first

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round pick to trade, So like that's giving up quite

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a bit of just oh, okay, are we prepared to

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go that far out in this chicag prepared to use

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that as the primary compensation? Because I think, you know,

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we look at these different draft picks and we say, oh,

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those distant ones are those are so valuable? And that's

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because they are. But if you're a front office in

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today's NBA, you think our tourists is thinking that he's

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going to be the one that's going to make the

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Clippers pick in what is it twenty thirty?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's the Bulls. I mean, look, they gave

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guard packs about eleven years too long, so why not.

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Speaker 1: This name just came to me. He's not like the

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most traditional point guard, since that's what we're gonna go

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instead of a four general game matter Peyton Pritchard on this.

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Speaker 2: Team obviously, but like, why would the Celtics pivot off

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of one of the best contracts in the league because.

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Speaker 1: They're a two year gap window now cutting costs and

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they get more first. I mean, I guess you're locking

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up a twenty sure.

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Speaker 2: Cutting cots, but like that, he's he's so cheap though,

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like you can make in the argument that you're not

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really so.

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Speaker 1: Cheap before he becomes like he's cheap until he becomes expensive,

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because what does he does? He even have two years

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left on his deal.

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Speaker 2: He's got three?

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Speaker 1: Oh they got that was a four year deal. That's right, Okay,

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he's like.

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Speaker 2: He's at seven point two this upcoming season, seven point seven,

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eight point three. He's he's an under certad free agents

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in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Your disrespectful tone is not appreciated. I was just naming names,

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but I was just asking questions. The other free agent

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that could be interesting would be Malcolm Brogden. I know

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they punted on acquiring him a couple of years back,

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and he's pretty injury prone, But that would be someone

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who I liked that I gotta compromise your floor spacing,

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got some still pretty good size. If you're starting him

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at the one, or not starting him but playing him

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a witht the one could play with or without James Harden.

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That might be my favorite name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good one. That's uh. I like

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that one.

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Speaker 1: How aggressive do you think they're going to be this offseason? Though,

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Like to answer your own kind of question at the.

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Speaker 2: Top, Oh, I think they need to be aggressive. Like

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I don't think you can sit there and say, oh,

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we were surprising everyone. Let's just roll it back because

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now that surprise is kind of no longer price. And

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we've seen that beforehand with NBA teams trying to say, oh, okay,

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like we shocked the world, let's just keep it rolling,

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and then because the secret is out, you kind of

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get stuck in your tracks. I mean, look at the Kings.

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The Kings is an obvious example of this, So you

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do need to do something to up the ant. I

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actually really not a thing about it. I really like

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the Malcolm Brocton idea. I think that was a good one.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time to move on to the Los

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Angeles Lakers more. What's your biggest question for them?

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Speaker 2: My biggest question with the Lakers is what center? Specifically

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which center? Obviously they should.

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Speaker 1: You pluralize that? Which centers which centers?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, honestly, I that's the one thing, right, Like,

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if we're looking at the big the big gust need

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of them. It's having some type of guy who can produce,

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and then it's up to us to figure out what

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type of center are they looking for? Are they looking

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for a half cord Nikola Vucevich? Well, actually, you know what,

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that's not true, because is apparently a lot better when

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the tempo is high, surprisingly so, But do they need

474
00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:17,279
a guy who is offensive minded, who can shoot, who

475
00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:20,599
can pass, who's more earth bound, or do they need

476
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,920
a rim running, athletic center who can catch slobs like

477
00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:28,839
obviously the second archete type leans itself lends itself well

478
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,759
to Luka. I'm not saying the ch option is bad though,

479
00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:36,319
Like I think they can make that work. But what

480
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,880
type of center are they looking for?

481
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: You probably need both, right There's I don't be cause there.

482
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:44,920
I mean, there would be guys that maybe could blend

483
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,200
it all together, but the Lakers don't have the assets

484
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,480
to go get them. Maybe if you're looking at free agents,

485
00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:52,400
the closest I could come up with, like in terms

486
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,519
of affordability. And I want to make it clear I

487
00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:56,200
love this player, but it's a reach to say he

488
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480
feels both like Chris Bouchet like that as someone who

489
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:01,519
is not as the earth bound, but he will stretch

490
00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,759
the floor, so that's not like they probably need to

491
00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:06,559
get bigger though, And I think he's listed at six',

492
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:10,200
nine SO i you, Know and that's the other, thing

493
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,720
is like more how they're doing this via, trade, right

494
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:14,559
because when you look at their, tools at most they're

495
00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:16,519
gonna have the mini mid. Level AND i just don't

496
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:20,519
know that a center who like is like going to

497
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:23,359
be of real use to. Them that's not getting, You,

498
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:26,640
like it's not getting You Steven, adams, right is it

499
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,920
even getting like maybe it would get You Al, horford

500
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,240
BUT i think he'd want to stay in The, East so,

501
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:33,119
LIKE i just don't are you gonna bring Where we're

502
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,720
gonna run? Back De Andre drummond train for? Them like

503
00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,039
the free agent list is just anyone who's.

504
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: Interesting, jesus would he even get up the floor by

505
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,079
the Time luca is at the foul?

506
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: Line Al horford wouldn't get up the floor by the

507
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,519
time lucas at the Ful And i'd be more worried

508
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:49,039
About luca getting up the floor by the Time Al

509
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:49,880
horford's at the foul.

510
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: Line, See i'm an optimist in that regard BECAUSE i

511
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,599
do think that even though we were talking About luca's

512
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,079
yo extra pounds is the nice way to say, it

513
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:04,839
he does have. SPURT i think does operate. Quickly my

514
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,160
point is, this he's more or less a catch and shoot. Center,

515
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,359
yeah he can, pass he can do these. Things but

516
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,119
like he's not someone who will go up and grab

517
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,400
your shits on the, lobs, Right like he's not someone

518
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,400
who go in and be a major vertical. Threat i'm well.

519
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:23,599
Speaker 1: That he would be a floor space or and he

520
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,680
helps your defense.

521
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: Too, yeah, yeah that is.

522
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: True by the, way if you could Get Al horford

523
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,960
for the mini mad, level it shouldn't be a. QUESTION

524
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,400
i don't care.

525
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: That, no, no, no of course, not of course. Not. Uh

526
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,519
i'm curious what do you think they can get for

527
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:36,440
the contract Of Jared.

528
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt what are they giving to get off of?

529
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: It, yeah and that's where we are.

530
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,559
Speaker 1: Right IT'S i don't know if IT'S i don't know

531
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,799
if it needs to be like a major. Asset BUT

532
00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:49,319
i don't think that contract looks a little underwater because

533
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:52,319
he's kind of. Proven there's the health, stuff very specific.

534
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,599
FIT i think you know they're expiring contracts probably have

535
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:58,640
the most value where It's cleveland Gave vincent.

536
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: That the player option For vanderbilt in twenty seven to twenty,

537
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,920
eight it's definitely not going to be an, asset all,

538
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,079
Right So Maxic kleeber, then, like so the expiring contract,

539
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:15,960
there which center are you identifying who has a longer

540
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,880
contract attached to his, name who might not be, considered you,

541
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,960
know a quote unquote valuable, Contract but who will fit

542
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,559
with the bron And luca is? That does that player exist?

543
00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:30,759
Speaker 1: Conceptually what About Robert williams the?

544
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: Third, YEAH i don't hate. That the availability would scare

545
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,079
The pachisus out of.

546
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 1: Me and that's like they're also an, interests like you

547
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,640
have to include something else because you can't take back

548
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,400
more money than you're sending out as this. TEAM i

549
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,200
don't know that the name's out, THERE i thought free agent,

550
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,240
wise and again he doesn't check every. Box he's gotten.

551
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,720
Older But Clint capella might fall into their price, range

552
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,240
and that just might be a sort of an innings.

553
00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:00,480
Eater that's someone that you look, At, yeah you do

554
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,039
you have other? Centers what's that that's?

555
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: Uninspiring it's really.

556
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,279
Speaker 1: So, inspiring but relative to their. Resources my point is

557
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,039
BECAUSE i don't what if they did the same trade,

558
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,920
package so it's money Plus dalton connect and then the

559
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,160
twenty thirty swap and a twenty thirty one first round.

560
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,079
Pick who is there like a realistic best center you

561
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:19,759
could see a team look all, right, like, oh we'll

562
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:20,240
think about.

563
00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:23,559
Speaker 2: This, god that's a good, question cause it's.

564
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: NOT i mean The hornets would still do it For Mark.

565
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Williams but, right so we have to think like in

566
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,119
The Mark Williams ballpark of, centers.

567
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:36,319
Speaker 1: Like that's not that's not getting you jail On, duran?

568
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: Right, NO i, NO i don't think, so, yeah does

569
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:41,920
that get?

570
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,279
Speaker 1: You that seems way too? Much but, like do you

571
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,400
go back to? This SO i would adjust the. PACKAGE

572
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,759
i want to make it Clear i'm not giving up,

573
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:49,279
that but, like do you go back to The Daniel

574
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:50,240
gafford well In?

575
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: DALLAS i mean that worked a little.

576
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,519
Speaker 1: BIT i just don't, like are you giving would you

577
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,559
give up a first? Year LIKE i. CAN'T i don't

578
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:00,920
know THAT i could give, up But i'm not giving

579
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,759
up a twenty thirty swap or twenty thirty one first

580
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,440
round pick For gafford If i'm The, Lakers like that's

581
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:05,799
SOMETHING i.

582
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:09,079
Speaker 2: HAVEN'T i have one that's, spicy that's this is, spicy

583
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,400
and it. DEPENDS i don't know where you stand On

584
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,759
Derek lively going back to, that, well, wow are you

585
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,279
willing to Relinquish austin where you used to Get Derek

586
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:20,720
lively in?

587
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:28,599
Speaker 1: There ooh, yeah you know? What probably like that's just

588
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:32,279
because you have to think About Austin reeves's next contract,

589
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:35,599
too and he's he'll be less and he's not even. Redundant.

590
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:36,759
NOW i don't mean to say they can't have too

591
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:40,799
many like, playmakers but like Old lebron's not gonna be there,

592
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:43,359
forever so him And LOU i don't want to get

593
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,759
into a point where like you Have Austin reeves on

594
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,680
this number that just like he's like a you, know

595
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:50,039
worth twenty five percent of the salary cap or. Something

596
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,240
SO i think If i'm The, LAKERS i would build

597
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,960
something Around Austin reeves for For Derek, LIVELY i Just.

598
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,519
DALLAS i don't know. WHY i guess they're, saying, hey

599
00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,680
we have a d And gafford And cooper flag and

600
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,240
we're to roll defensively on the front. Line is that,

601
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,240
WELL i mean you also have To.

602
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Washington you have to think about offense. Too lively the

603
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:09,319
comarrison doesn't think about.

604
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: OFFENSE i think we know that is.

605
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: True that is, true but like it's so weird to

606
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:18,240
me How dallas finally found like the center For, luca

607
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,240
the center and they had a year and a half

608
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:26,039
together and then that's all she. WROTE i would love

609
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,920
to see The lakers sort of explore that and, go,

610
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,400
look they found, something they decided to break it. Up

611
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,839
that's not on. Us let's see if we can reassemble

612
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,920
this thing in LA.

613
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: I i don't hate that. Idea it's like that's like a,

614
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,279
risk but IT'S i, mean you're getting, younger so he

615
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,519
fits The luca timeline and he's was one of our

616
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,440
Biggest what was our biggest concern For Derek lively offensively

617
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,920
after The luca trade is what is he going to

618
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,720
look like Without? Luca and now you just won't even

619
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:56,319
have to imagine it because he won't ride with.

620
00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:59,519
Speaker 2: And he's a guy WHO i actually think will have

621
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:00,480
space upside.

622
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Too oh, really m.

623
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,799
Speaker 2: M that shot isn't broken by any. MEANS i don't know.

624
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: IF i could get, there would you based on we

625
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,279
haven't seen him shoot a ton of threes and make

626
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,160
them more based off sample. Size how about that based off?

627
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000
Data take that for the, data.

628
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,599
Speaker 2: Take that for. Data that's, fine that's. Fair i'll buy.

629
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,880
That BUT i, mean when we have seen him, shoot

630
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,240
be that from mid, range be that you know in pregame,

631
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,640
workouts whatever that looks.

632
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: Goy, yes the empty gym. WORKOUTS i get.

633
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: IT i hear. YOU i hear. YOU i do understand

634
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,279
your point, There but, like the shot looks good Though

635
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,920
i'm not seeing. Results i'm saying, Process, like it's not,

636
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:47,119
broken it's it's one motion. Shot it seems to be.

637
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,559
Working i'm just Not, Look i'm not ruling it. Out

638
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:50,559
it's All i'm, Saying.

639
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: Look he did you fifty six percent from float or,

640
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,240
Range so if that equates to and this year he

641
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,559
was and that was that accounted for all but one

642
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:00,640
of his mid range jump. Shot SO i just we

643
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920
haven't seen it in gameplay, yet SO i can't say

644
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,319
THAT i think he's gonna have like force facing. Potential

645
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,599
this is it's a tough. Thing would you, Consider LIKE

646
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,519
i don't even know If utah would trade him at this,

647
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,799
point but, like Does Walker? Kessler do you want anything

648
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:14,240
for you.

649
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah for, sure for. SURE i MEAN i

650
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,559
he is a huge human being and that's a major,

651
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,319
upside especially when you're playing next To luca because his

652
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,519
catch radius is. Absurd so, yeah, no he absolutely does

653
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:33,079
something for. Me if i'm, La, yeah would.

654
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: You look at combining like step laddering your way with smaller?

655
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,319
Contracts If portland was just looking to get Off DeAndre

656
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:39,680
ayden's expiring, DEAL.

657
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,839
Speaker 2: I look the narrative of Having luca And DeAndre ayden

658
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,559
on the same team after the whole twenty eighteen draft. Deboggle,

659
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,000
yeah that would be. Fun, look he needs something right

660
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:59,319
like aiden to, me he's always needed guys around him

661
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
who have a very specific set of. Skills oh, MAN

662
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,240
i make it sound like vamnissent. Here that's not my,

663
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:10,920
Intention BUT i Think luke might actually be the guy

664
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,440
who could unlock him to a bigger.

665
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Extent, YEAH i. WOULDN'T i wouldn't hate the. FIT i

666
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,000
just don't even know because it, okay we can get

667
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,799
to the, money but that's, like what are you Sending?

668
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,359
Portland like you can't send them like a twenty thirty

669
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:27,599
one first round pick For DeAndre eight and, like would

670
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,079
you consider giving Up dalt and connect for, THAT i.

671
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,599
DON'T i guess if you're getting off The Jared vanderbilt

672
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,680
deal is part of? It, sure why? Not it's just

673
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,079
this is what makes it so, hard like for The

674
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,119
lakers to fix the the to fix but like even

675
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,799
address the center position is like you're.

676
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,119
Speaker 2: Getting a trade if they need anything more than expiring.

677
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: CONTRACTS i guess if you just wanted To portland is, saying,

678
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,960
hey we'll roll forward with we Have Donovan, Klingen we're

679
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,599
gonna Play Robert williams the. Third, sure but The lakers

680
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,720
expiring contracts are Gab.

681
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: Bi Maxi kleeber so, like so it doesn't even get you, there, no, no, No so,

682
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,319
okay so you'll have to Include. Vanderbilt that's. True but

683
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,640
like you shave off a ton of money for next,

684
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,200
summer like you shave off twenty three million off that

685
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:15,359
deal With Gabe vincent And Mexico. Liba it's expiring deals

686
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:19,000
of what For?

687
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,519
Speaker 1: PORTLAND i mean only has one year. Left he's expiring himself, Though.

688
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh my, god is he already? EXPIRING i thought he

689
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,599
had a year left after.

690
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Next he's got he's expiring as. Well so if You're.

691
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Portland you know, what that's my.

692
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: BAD i thought he had twenty six twenty seven as.

693
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,839
Well that changes the. Calculus you're absolutely, right, THEN i

694
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200
do agree that then it's going to be harder to

695
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,279
find a trade that makes. Sense you probably have to

696
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,279
Include dalton connect for that to make. Sense, yes.

697
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: DOES i don't even know if they would. PART i

698
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,000
mean you could take a shot like Would orlando give

699
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,079
You Jonathan isaac or could you even Get Wendell Carter

700
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640
junior would be interesting IN La what?

701
00:33:58,759 --> 00:33:59,559
Speaker 2: Did what did?

702
00:33:59,559 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: It?

703
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Really you don't think? SO i.

704
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:06,039
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't like is sick to, me is just

705
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,360
a little bit broken now because he's he gained all

706
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,119
the weight and he lost his. Mobility he's he can't

707
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,320
stay on the. Floor the offense is just completely in the. Shitter,

708
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,360
defensively he also lost a. STEP i JUST i don't

709
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,239
trust him moving. Forward as For, carter he just stopped

710
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,639
developing and for some, reason, inexplicably they gave him an,

711
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:33,199
extension which was totally odd timing for all that's. Transpired

712
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:38,400
he he's completely stagnated in his development and given the

713
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:42,079
current status of who he is as a, PLAYER i

714
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,039
just don't think he's worth the squeeze. Whatsoever AND i

715
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:48,360
say that as someone who was supremely high on him

716
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:49,039
in twenty.

717
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:53,519
Speaker 1: EIGHTEEN i like kind of the versatility he's probably he's like,

718
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:55,760
two he's more earth bound for someone that you would

719
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,440
want Alongside.

720
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:59,639
Speaker 2: Luca SO i totally not a good enough shooter to justify.

721
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: IT i think maybe the. LOOK i THINK i would

722
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,000
be curious to see what he looks like outside Of.

723
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,079
Orlando spacing, though would be that is?

724
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:07,679
Speaker 2: Fair? Like that is? Fair, yes.

725
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:10,599
Speaker 1: Like i'm kind of just out of, name so just

726
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:13,679
like you, Know i'm. Not would you look at reuniting

727
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,559
him with christops Porzingis luca and christops porzingis if The

728
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:18,599
celtics are looking to shave money and you're sending these

729
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:19,440
smaller contracts.

730
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: Elsewhere it did seem like they buried the, hatchet didn't.

731
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 1: IT i just that's another. Guy do you trust him

732
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,039
to be? Available and now you've got to worry about

733
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,159
his next? Contract if it's not costing you a first round,

734
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:33,920
PICK i might consider.

735
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,679
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, no, no what ABOUT i would consider it?

736
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,119
Speaker 1: Too what About i'm SURPRISED i haven't thought of this guy,

737
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,480
before AND i don't think his team is looking to trade.

738
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:44,320
Him but if you gave The Mark williams offer To

739
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
atlanta For onyeka Kung, wu.

740
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: So is So kongvo big? Enough that is my. QUESTION

741
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,840
i love, him he's one of my favorite players to,

742
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,760
watch but he's six' eight AND while i, get there

743
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,840
there there's a. Wingspan there he's not necessarily someone who will.

744
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Overpower you he's not someone who imposes great size. UPON

745
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,719
you i think there is a somewhat set ceiling. WITH

746
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,079
him i would look for someone who, is, taller larger

747
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,880
takes up, more SPACE but i don't hate, The, option

748
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,960
like if that's the best they, can, Do yeah i'm

749
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,519
pulling the TRIGGER because i do need someone.

750
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Doesn't even think about, that offer though they probably at

751
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,000
least think, about, IT right i.

752
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: DON'T know I mean i don't think. THEY should i

753
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,199
don't think that's. An offer they're like entirely excited about.

754
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,519
Speaker 1: Connect a swap and a twenty thirty one verst.

755
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: Round, PICK well, i mean look at they also have

756
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,920
to think about, their, Season right They're, losing capella which

757
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,039
is much of.

758
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: A lot, i mean they could bring him back if

759
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,519
they really, want to.

760
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 2: They could but like they don't really have a lot

761
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,320
of size at the specifically at the. Center spot they

762
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,000
have size at, the wings at the four or at.

763
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:05,639
Off guard obviously they don't have a lot upfront in

764
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,719
terms of like. Your center can they afford to? GIVE that.

765
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:12,039
Speaker 1: I guess if you're pivoting and if they for some

766
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,480
Reason Trade trey young or they decide they're playing the longer,

767
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,639
term game that would be something that would be worth

768
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,639
the dice roll Then because kung was. Not old but

769
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:21,159
it's just if. YOU'RE rebuilding i don't know that you

770
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:24,000
sit there and view him as. A cornerstone we've spent

771
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,719
a lot of time on. Your question so my question

772
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,159
really QUICK was I think i have a.

773
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,639
Speaker 2: Final. Center, good now you have to be a little

774
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:35,719
open to this because he's never played a lot of,

775
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,840
minutes before so this would you'd have to believe that

776
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,920
you can stretch his minutes out and he's a, permanent

777
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,679
monster but we've never seen sustainable over like thirty. Plus Minutes,

778
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,400
jalen smith.

779
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,559
Speaker 1: That'd. BE it, i mean it's worth, a shot especially

780
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,840
if Like would, chicago, Say Hey jalen smith has two

781
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,599
years left on, his deal we will glad they take

782
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,440
one of your expiring contracts him and like very low

783
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,000
level compensation. FROM there i don't hate that. At all

784
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:04,519
that'd be.

785
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: Interesting inside outside athletic block shot rebounds at a. HIGH

786
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:09,159
level i don't.

787
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,199
Speaker 1: Hate it that'd be an. INTERESTING flyer i would feel

788
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,000
uncomfortable if he's my starting center in a, playoff Series that,

789
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,880
I'll say but. That's fair they're not working. With much

790
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,519
my other, question is so much time is spent on the, center,

791
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:24,320
Position rightfully so can this team get more two? Way players,

792
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,360
you like who's the who Aside From Dorian finney smith

793
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:35,760
is their best two? Way, player oh that's a.

794
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Good question is that is that like A. Healthy mexicaliba.

795
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:45,079
Speaker 1: It Might Be, Bronnie james LIKE it's i think people

796
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,039
would probably, point, To like i'm actually leeber is a

797
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:49,519
good one if. He's healthy but that's like a big

798
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,400
ass if they probably like we, hear like well We've

799
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,079
seen luca lock, up sometimes or like lebron can turn,

800
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,000
it on and IT'S just i don't know that It's Probably,

801
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:01,000
Gabe vincent Like If gabe vincent, is hitting it's probably.

802
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:04,039
The answer and that makes, me uncomfortable Is all i'm going.

803
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,639
To SAY but i don't know how you go about

804
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:10,039
because if you're targeting, a center YOU'RE not i mean.

805
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:12,760
Via trade if you can sign, a, center, okay sure

806
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,960
BUT like i just don't know how to do you

807
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,559
have the assets to improve this rotation to the extremes

808
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,639
that it feels like it needs to. Be IMPROVED so

809
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,480
i know You, Have luca I'm assuming lebron we'll, be

810
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:25,719
back And like Ruy hot chimore has been great, For

811
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,840
Them austin reeve's been really good. For them but that

812
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,639
kind of might open up another question that you touched

813
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:34,239
on when You Mentioned derek wively is does is this

814
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,400
the offseason to then look At Trading austin reeves just

815
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,039
because the way your roster is, made up the number

816
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,320
of boxes you need, to check and he is probably

817
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,679
your single most valuable, trade asset with the exception of

818
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,199
maybe the twenty thirty one first.

819
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,039
Speaker 2: ROUND pick, I mean lakers fans will hate the idea

820
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,719
of Shipping Out, austin REEVES and i, Get It like

821
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,000
i'm not gonna sit here, and, say well he's redundant

822
00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,360
or anything of, that nature because he is a surprise dreamely.

823
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,559
Good player, you know twenty, plus points almost, six assists.

824
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,280
This year he's a pig and, roll guy high, efficiency

825
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,079
guy can play both on and off. The ball you

826
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,800
have to at least consider it for the. Right FIT

827
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,880
AND i i would hate pivoting off of HIM because

828
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,039
i think, he's very.

829
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:21,639
Speaker 3: Very Underrated josh weird where doesn't it feel like he's

830
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,159
probably overrated in the Eyes of lakers fans and then

831
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,280
underrated in the eyes of national like fans and media

832
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,760
members because they're overcorrecting for Like the.

833
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Lakers, bump yeah.

834
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Correct exactly he would be interesting to like at least

835
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:41,760
explore the trade. VALUE off i just don't know what. You're,

836
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,559
like again if it's, steric, Lively yeah i'm, doing IT

837
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
but i don't know what else you're.

838
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:50,159
Speaker 1: Looking for going Back to Dallas mavericks well is like kind,

839
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:53,519
Of funny but that's because you could open up that structure, To,

840
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:57,000
like Okay is dallas giving you if you're sending out

841
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:00,159
more salary or including, something else like is You Know

842
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,679
naji MARSHALL Or pj washington on? The TABLE Like pj

843
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000
washington's interesting because They Have cooper Flag And. Anthony davis

844
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,480
now They Have. Naji marshall i'm not say he's. Entirely

845
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:11,599
redundant you could make, it work but he's going to

846
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,199
be a, free agent or he can sign his, four

847
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,320
year basically ninety million. DOLLAR extension i don't know if

848
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,320
you could Compensate the mavericks enough to get him. En

849
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,119
lively but if it's the twenty thirty and twenty thirty,

850
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,719
two swap twenty thirty one first round Pick, and, reeves

851
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,639
like maybe that gets you thinking or is there Some

852
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,480
super oh, Go, AHEAD.

853
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,119
Speaker 2: No i just before we just get out ahead. Of

854
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:37,239
this do we honestly think that and, It's this this

855
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,119
is gonna sound like. A joke it's not intended. To

856
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,639
be do we really think that these two teams are

857
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:44,320
going to trade with? Each? Other again do we think

858
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,079
That the mavericks are just because of, the narratives because

859
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,599
of the his the recent history With the, Luga trade

860
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,480
like we're sitting here exploring. This genuinely are we sure

861
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,800
that there is some mandiated from ownerships that you are

862
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,320
not gonna deal With the lakers for a?

863
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,679
Speaker 1: While NOW am? I? Sure NO would i put it?

864
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Past?

865
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Them, also no to deal With the. LAKERS again I

866
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,960
Think cooper flag gives them a level of agency where

867
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,280
people be like you, know what like they're rebuilding. Or

868
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,960
something so to, your point it would be a little.

869
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,360
Bit surprising the OTHER thing i, WAS thinking i don't

870
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,280
necessarily know if this Is An austin reeves, level return

871
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,000
but you have the salaries to. Do it is there

872
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:27,159
some type of super construction WITH the nets where You're

873
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,400
Getting nick Claxton And, Cam johnson so we're talking like

874
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,079
fifty million dollars. In salary, but like IF, you're la

875
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,599
you have the two swaps and a pick that you

876
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:39,639
can move, twenty thirty twenty thirty and twenty thirty, two

877
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:43,320
swaps twenty thirty one first round picks you're sending back mostly.

878
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,639
EXPIRING contracts i don't know WHAT the nets is appetite

879
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:49,320
for that would Be If austin reeves is involved is

880
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,320
a more. INTERESTING lesson I Don't Just nicholas claxton was

881
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,920
a name we didn't Mention with centers and so he

882
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,920
came Up for like that would also be an interesting NAME.

883
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,559
Speaker 2: For la if you Can Get nick Claxton And camp

884
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:06,519
johnson Without Relinquishing, austin REEVES then i don't care about. The,

885
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:10,840
bigs yeah you do that? Next Time does brooklyn?

886
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: Do that Though the claxton deal is FASCINATING because i

887
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,320
don't think it's a. Bad ONE but i think you

888
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,280
look at it and it's like three years and seventy

889
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
five million or whatever's left, on it, and, it's oh

890
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,760
that's that gives you a little bit. Of pause he is?

891
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,239
He is he might be like aside FROM a bam out,

892
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,440
of buy like he's one of the five most wwitchable

893
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880
bigs IN, The nba like of, pure centers he's like

894
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,760
one of the five most wwitchable bigs. Out.

895
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: There easily he's got like sixty nine three and. Seventy

896
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,760
million it's not like his contract is. SO good i

897
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,119
don't understand why anyone would test Its eight so he's

898
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,239
he's had twenty five point three, next year that's only

899
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,199
sixteen point four percent of. The cap then it decreases

900
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,719
to twenty three point one and to twenty, point nine

901
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:59,360
so his ultimate end of contracts compensation level is eleven

902
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,599
point seven of the.

903
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:03,679
Speaker 1: SALARY cap i think for some of the offensive question

904
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,639
marks as well as the health question marks and even

905
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,360
just the, Slight frame i'm not saying it's a. BAD

906
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,400
deal i think he's a really, good player and if.

907
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,559
It's not if it's considered a, net positive then like

908
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:15,920
that's bad For the lakers because then, the nets like

909
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,800
the asking price goes up. On IT so i don't

910
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,599
think the package we, laid out if it's just the

911
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,400
picks that's not, Getting you like if it's the Picks

912
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,800
in dalton connect and salary that's not Getting you Cam.

913
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,039
And claxton Maybe The mark williams offer Gets, you claxton

914
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:30,719
or could you give up a? Little less is there

915
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,280
no swap? Involved there that would be an interesting route

916
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,559
for them. TO go i want to make. IT clear

917
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,960
I think. CLAXTON'S fantastic i just don't you KNOW the

918
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719
i don't HATE his i would trade for. HIS contract

919
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,159
i want to make. IT clear i just think there's

920
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,199
still some question. Marks there as, a player, FOR sure.

921
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: I would Look And claxton johnson might be the most

922
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,159
intriguing duo to get Into the, lakers system because you

923
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:55,320
can definitely see a world where in both of those

924
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,199
benefit Greatly.

925
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,639
Speaker 1: From luca that's just you never see those with, it's,

926
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:03,639
like oh fifty million dollars and out going money Of.

927
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:06,159
The lakers, it's right what are? You doing what is

928
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:07,880
the most you're willing to give up As the lakers in,

929
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,440
that SCENARIO because i don't even know if they're best

930
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,800
Offer the nets would consider for that JUST because.

931
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:14,639
Speaker 2: I mean i Probably Consider austin reeves if That's the

932
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,320
if those are the Two that, i'm Getting.

933
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: So reeves and the swaps and the pick, plus salary.

934
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:23,679
Speaker 2: That's, SOMETHING yeah i mean look with protections on. The,

935
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,719
picks yes well the pick the only pick that you could.

936
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,079
Speaker 1: Give up that's enough On. The lakers let's go To The.

937
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,320
Phoenix suns mort what is your biggest question? For them

938
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,320
and it's not who is their? Head coach because we know, and,

939
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,199
surprise surprise do you? Or Not Michigan state ties who could?

940
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,119
Speaker 2: Have guessed, OH yeah I mean i couldn't. For sure

941
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,760
WHAT'S the? Kyd return i'm going to keep it simple on.

942
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,800
This one what is a realistic Return For KEVIN durand.

943
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: I, DON'T know i. THINK that i think it's all

944
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,280
you know what makes it even more difficult or? Not

945
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,760
difficult but do you know what makes the optics? More

946
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,440
difficult because of everything you gave up To Get kevin

947
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:08,800
rant and you're not gonna get anywhere near that much

948
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,239
for him now he's gonna be thirty Seven. In september

949
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:13,960
he's still probably one of the fifteen best players in.

950
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,840
The league He MAKES all nba, this year if he doesn't,

951
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,000
get injured but he's on an expired, god ract he's

952
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,039
going to third. THIRTY seven i don't if you would

953
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:25,119
have set the over under in the equivalent of two

954
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,079
first round picks or two and. A half, let's say

955
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,199
are you taking? The over the under depends.

956
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:33,199
Speaker 2: On protection you can't just say first, Round now.

957
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the over on like. You can it depends. On, protections,

958
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,840
okay fine but like if he's going to, a contender

959
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,440
you'd like those picks probably won't be, good anyway or

960
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,760
they'll be protected if he's going to a.

961
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,119
Speaker 2: Tea he goes to, A CONTENDER i'm i am willing

962
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,840
to say that it could go over, based on, you

963
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,159
know just who he is as a basketball player and

964
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,480
depending on, The team like if those picks are projected

965
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,519
to being like the, late, TWENTIES yeah i could see

966
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:02,960
three picks getting relinquished if you're looking at it from

967
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,320
a perspective of a team that's like in the playoffs

968
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,119
but not really that advanced into, you know a team

969
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:12,400
that has made the, conference finals, for example the team

970
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,440
that's like trying to make a move to. Get THERE

971
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,360
then i think under unless they're, fucking desperate.

972
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:23,199
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a better way to parse. It out

973
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400
would you do Just because houston is the team that's

974
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,400
mentioned so much? For him what'd you do number Ten In?

975
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,360
Jabari smith and then you're figuring out The Salt Maybe

976
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,719
jalen green' is the matching? Salary there do you do

977
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,360
That For? Kevin Durant so phoenix gets its own pick

978
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,039
from this Year Back Jabari Smith jalen, green's contract and,

979
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:42,239
then yeah you're sending UP commit i. Do that you

980
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:42,840
do that as who?

981
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,519
Speaker 2: BOTH teams i do That. As houston that was the

982
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:53,440
first One. For Phoenix. Jalen green i'll get. My pickback that's.

983
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,079
Really Important jalen green will be sort of like a,

984
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:59,760
reclamation project LIKE can i make something happen? With him the, thing,

985
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840
is though the positional overlap that we've just Seen with

986
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,960
Book And, bradley beal that's just gonna be worse than

987
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:11,960
Down With. JALEN green, i mean you'll have those three

988
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:18,480
guys all off guards and exclusively, off guards trying to

989
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,719
make heads and tails of, their, minutes distribution, their roles or.

990
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,559
Positional BREAKDOWNS so, i Mean, FOR phoenix i would love

991
00:48:27,639 --> 00:48:31,039
to get the. PICK back i would probably Ask for

992
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,400
brooks Instead, of green and then maybe some additional COMPENSATION if,

993
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,159
i could just to not make a mess of the

994
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:41,000
frickin' shooting guard.

995
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:44,519
Speaker 1: Position there do, YOU do i Guess from, houston's perspective

996
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,599
are You using brooks And Then jabari smith and then

997
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,119
number ten To Get? Kevin? Durant like? Is that do

998
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:50,599
you think that's?

999
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: TOO much i don't think it's. Too much not if

1000
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,079
it's that level of COMPENSATION that i can get. Behind

1001
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:59,719
with my issue for a long time was relinquishing half

1002
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,280
Thester For kevin DURAND that i just think should be a.

1003
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Non starter if that's the Specific package i'm, GIVING up

1004
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,599
i can live. With that.

1005
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: Do you have any other teams or packages you wanted

1006
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,800
to go through?

1007
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: On, HIM well i mean there are a lot of

1008
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:18,000
teams that have, been, Mentioned Right the nakes have, been

1009
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,440
Mentioned the spurs have. Been mentioned it's just so hard

1010
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,960
for me to justify relinquishing, you know a great deal

1011
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,559
for a guy who's. THAT old i understand he's, Still

1012
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:33,239
good but we have no idea of how long he's.

1013
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,159
Gonna play we have no idea if he's, you know

1014
00:49:36,199 --> 00:49:39,519
he's reaching that point where age is also just increasing the.

1015
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,960
Injury risk, for example there are just so many question

1016
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:46,159
Marks where i'm like hesitant, to, say, oh yeah let's

1017
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,840
go all In For kevin durand at. This stage so

1018
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:53,599
there are teams where he'd, be interesting sure can they

1019
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:57,440
get there too making a trade package that makes sense for,

1020
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,800
both sides Where the suns are also feeling secure and.

1021
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,320
LINQUISHING him i find. It tough there isn't like that

1022
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,519
one thing out there that just. MAKES sense i do

1023
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,199
have one, for, you though one THAT and i have

1024
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,320
to make sure, it's legal by, the WAY because i

1025
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,960
didn't check. My Apology so I'll go i'll go.

1026
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: Through one, them FIRST because i think he's been tied

1027
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,039
To the knicks a little bit. More recently if you're

1028
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,360
the what IS? THE sig, i mean there's reporting out

1029
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,000
there That says phoenix Doesn't Want Karl. Anthony towns but

1030
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:26,960
just from a, value perspective even if you need to

1031
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:29,960
rope in third and fourth teams that are Maybe sending

1032
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,960
phoenix Something For Karl. Anthony towns If you're phoenix And

1033
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,000
the knicks are able to get you, a Package Where's

1034
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:37,880
Karl anthony towns and the rights to your twenty six

1035
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,559
first round? Pick back are you doing That For Kevin.

1036
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:48,559
Speaker 2: Durant towns and the right? For you, See again i'm

1037
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:52,639
Higher on towns, than most so my natural inclination is to.

1038
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:58,960
Say NO but i also understand, that specifically in like

1039
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:04,280
a one, Year window durand is. More valuable, He's, better

1040
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,599
like he does level, You.

1041
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: Up so you think It's the knicks that are. Giving

1042
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,920
up i've been fascinated by That because i've seen a lot.

1043
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Of.

1044
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: PEOPLE one I Think leon roe should be fired if

1045
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,039
he's trading some combination of ognoob plus Anybody For, kevin

1046
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:20,599
durant because now you're giving up two rotation players for

1047
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,800
when you were. Shallow Enough the COWNS discussion i find

1048
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,800
fascinating just because he's like seven years Younger Than. KEVIN

1049
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,000
durant i. Get it but if You're the knicks and

1050
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,480
you're already looking at it through the lens, of well

1051
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:36,719
we're paying him all. This money he's on a thirty five.

1052
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,440
Percent max it's less than thirty five percent of the,

1053
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,480
cap now but we don't think he can be. Our

1054
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:44,239
center you're like His contract hesrota about one hundred and

1055
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,159
seventy it's one hundred and seventy plus million over the next.

1056
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,440
Three years that's not like there's A reason minnesota traded

1057
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:52,679
him like it Worked With, rudy GOBERT and i don't

1058
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,000
know that that was the right trade. For them but

1059
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:56,920
as soon as the bill came due on that, supermax

1060
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,480
extension they got rid. Of him i've gone back and

1061
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,039
forth on what, because yes you're shrinking, your WINDOW but

1062
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:03,960
i don't Know That Karl anthony towns is going to

1063
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,800
age into a good asset. For you and so if

1064
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,079
you can get it effectively for if you can look

1065
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:11,199
at this and say We Turn, Julius Randall dante DiVincenzo

1066
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,079
and the number SEVENTEEN pick I think detroit Sent to minnesota,

1067
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,440
this year if you turn That Into, KEVIN durant i

1068
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:20,800
don't think. That's terrible if you're looking at it, that

1069
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,079
way and there's a Chance that kad leaves you a

1070
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:27,920
little more flexible. Moving forward if he's not being paid

1071
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,480
the max on HIS next i don't know if that's

1072
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:32,880
what he. Would do i'm just saying he's. Gonna be

1073
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,880
he's turning thirty Seven. In september so is this someone

1074
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,840
who starts playing out his days on. SUBMAX deals i.

1075
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,719
DON'T know i think there'd be teams that would give him.

1076
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,760
THE max i want to. BE clear i don't KNOW

1077
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,719
where i land on, the discussion to, be HONEST but

1078
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,719
i do think that's.

1079
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,639
Speaker 2: Really hard it's really HARD.

1080
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: If i had to, push though just to give a,

1081
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,320
definitive ANSWER since i pushed you for one On the.

1082
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,360
Picks Thing if I'm, The knicks i'm probably doing IT because.

1083
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,920
I don't I Think kevin. Durant's better he helps your

1084
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,159
defense more Than Karl an, towns does especially during the

1085
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,679
Jail in. Brunson MINUTES and i think it's easier, to

1086
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,920
approximate with, limited resources fleshing out your front line Rotation

1087
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,280
Around mitchell Robinson And kevin durant like getting another center,

1088
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,880
in there than it, is, to oh you want someone

1089
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,599
who provides you with dependable number two. Scoring That kevin

1090
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:20,199
durant still.

1091
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,159
Speaker 2: Does, that, yes absolutely and probably will until he's.

1092
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: LIKE four i can tell, you Though that, knicks fans

1093
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,000
it doesn't seem like they would do it that they

1094
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,920
think that town is way more Valuable, than DURANT and.

1095
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,519
I don't i would take exception with, the WAY but

1096
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:36,440
i do think it's, YOU know i think it's a

1097
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,519
fair stance to, say no we're not. Doing that if that's,

1098
00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:40,480
your position then, then sure that's totally fine.

1099
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,159
Speaker 2: My idea don't move.

1100
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: It, on sorry mout.

1101
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: Of Time No paul george and number Three for Katie?

1102
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,199
Speaker 1: The sixers can you do? That though because it's like

1103
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,480
you're getting Off The paul, george money but you're not stending.

1104
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:02,159
Your window you're shrinking it because you got rid of.

1105
00:54:02,159 --> 00:54:04,519
The number like if if you don't Know What joel

1106
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,480
embiid is going, TO be i don't know how, You

1107
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:09,119
do like you just have to suck it up and

1108
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:11,639
rite Because If joel embiid, is cooked your future is

1109
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,000
cooked and you need, that number like you have to ride.

1110
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,800
THIS out i can't.

1111
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: Do that you can't. Do that so who's? Saying No

1112
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:18,280
The phoenix? Sun's?

1113
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: Saying though If The phoenix suns say no, TO that

1114
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,480
i think they're out of their Minds Because paul george

1115
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,519
is still a. Basketball player you may not like the

1116
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:28,760
contract or what he's provided he's still a. Basketball player

1117
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,000
so and you're getting the number. Three pick phoenix has to.

1118
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:37,159
Speaker 2: Do that i'm not sure That the philadelphia seventy six

1119
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,119
or doesn't. HAVE to i think. THEY should i don't

1120
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:43,239
think that's a. Bad deal so you're you're, Using, LIKE

1121
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,239
okay i, Don't, know okay stay with me on. This

1122
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,320
one we don't Know If paul george, is cooked, ALL

1123
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,679
right i know you don't believe that that's. TOTALLY fair

1124
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,760
i think there are recent whole question marks around him.

1125
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,719
MOVING forward i think the contract is. IT greaches I

1126
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,440
think durand is so much better at a similar age bracket,

1127
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:08,239
as well where it makes sense to get him in

1128
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,920
there as a plug and play guy who can really elevate.

1129
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,599
That team it kind of also makes it easier to

1130
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:18,519
Swallow if joel is not going To, Beat, Joel Right

1131
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:24,079
So KAD Tyre's maxi, JARED McCain i don't hate that

1132
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,360
as a, primary trio and then whatever you kind of Get,

1133
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:35,960
from joe that's cream and you get off the.

1134
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: Damn deal so you're using the number three pick basically

1135
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,400
as a salary.

1136
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:43,039
Speaker 2: Dump mechanism unless you if You View kevin durant as a.

1137
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Salary dump but here's my, thing is so what YOU

1138
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,239
can't i, will say you can't make that deal unless

1139
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,360
you Believe That joel ebid is going To Be joel embiid,

1140
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,280
next season because what are You With, Tyre's maxie jared

1141
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,119
McCain And quentin Grinds And. Kevin durant you're not a contender.

1142
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: In The, eastern conference, you, know, no, no, no.

1143
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: NO no.

1144
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,039
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree on, the surface not a contender

1145
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:07,480
In The. Eastern conference that is so weird. RIGHT now

1146
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:12,440
i could see why they would squint and say there's a,

1147
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:17,000
chance there like there's there could be a. Way, IN

1148
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:21,079
again i agree, With you joe is the major. One

1149
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,920
here he has to. Be healthy but RIGHT now i

1150
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,079
Look At paul george as one of the worst frickin'

1151
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:28,519
contracts IN, the NBA and i Don't think i'm wrong

1152
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,559
in having. That evaluation if you can pivot off of

1153
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:39,559
that and even upgrade that, Salary slot i'm considering adding

1154
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,920
number three. To THAT like i will, say this if

1155
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,519
If the philadelphia seven or six ers decide to, just

1156
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:48,119
say you, know what like, you said we'll just swallow

1157
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:51,480
those contracts we'll use. Number three we'll use that as

1158
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,960
a launching off point Where It's, Tyrese maxi jared McCain and.

1159
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,519
Number three that's gonna be our future and we just

1160
00:56:57,559 --> 00:56:59,239
have to wait and Beat The paul. GEORGE out i

1161
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,159
will have no quorms with. That plan that is a

1162
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:07,039
perfectly reasonably reasonable PLAN that i can. Get BEHIND so

1163
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:10,119
i don't think there's a wrong answer specifically to. This one.

1164
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: It would be tough for me to give up number

1165
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,559
three without knowings and this this isn't Just A kevin,

1166
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:20,119
durant thing by, the way like, you're offering, you know

1167
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:22,280
short of that Getting. You, yannis okay if you Get, you,

1168
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,159
yannis yeah, go ahead, Right right but like to not

1169
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,800
Know what joelle is and to give up the number

1170
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,239
three pick just feels incredibly. Short SIGHTED and i would

1171
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:31,800
think That the sons need to somehow figure out a

1172
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,719
way to get more Stuff to philly in.

1173
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: THAT scenario, i, mean Look if philly can get even

1174
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,239
more stuff out, of that all, the. Better right.

1175
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: My question for them just to and it steps on

1176
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,360
the toes. Of yours so the discussion is going. To

1177
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,920
continue do you Think the suns will be open to

1178
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,719
a gap year to where it's if you're doing. A,

1179
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,639
choice well my point is is that. You could it

1180
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:00,679
feels Like so washington's a. Good example they swap Rights

1181
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:03,280
on phoenix's like eight times swap pick or whatever. IT

1182
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,079
is i feel like you could get that back pretty easily,

1183
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:07,840
because like even if you Went to washington, and said

1184
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,320
here's number, twenty nine we want our, swap pack where

1185
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,400
is the world in Which the wizards are better Than

1186
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,000
the sun's, Next, season like it's not A, man Like

1187
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:20,960
the wizards aren't gonna let. That happen they're so early under.

1188
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,599
The rebuild so if you can get your first round,

1189
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:24,760
pick back and that's part of being open to a,

1190
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,039
gap year you can go through next SEASON, trade kd

1191
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960
get back what you WILL. For kd maybe it gets

1192
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,599
easier to move bial like next offseason when he's an.

1193
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:36,239
Expiring contract still is the no. Trade clause but you

1194
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,880
go into the summer of twenty twenty seven with just

1195
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,280
a twenty twenty six, excuse me with a pretty good

1196
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,159
draft pick that you're adding to. The Equation You're kevin durant,

1197
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:49,760
turn return And Then, devin booker assuming that he's going

1198
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,159
to be on board, with that or do you think

1199
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:54,320
it's just such a non starter for this team because

1200
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,480
of the way, it's run because of what we know About,

1201
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:02,519
matt ishbia, because like LIKE there's i really believe there's

1202
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:04,159
a world in which you could easily just get back

1203
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:07,000
the rights to your own twenty six rush.

1204
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,119
Speaker 2: Round pick the mattshpia of it all is the, big,

1205
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:14,400
Question right and obviously we're not privy to what happens

1206
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,360
internally outside of what's. Being, reported uh it does feel

1207
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,519
like they are trying to go, you know fast and

1208
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:23,800
furious with this. Whole thing and if that's, the, PLAN

1209
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:26,199
yeah i don't think a gap here is in. The,

1210
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,199
cards however like he how long has mattsh been? An?

1211
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:34,159
Owner now it seems like everyone who has new owner

1212
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,960
syndrome also eventually just calms the fuck down after a

1213
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,320
couple of years and, just realizes, oh wait this is

1214
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:41,800
this is not, a sprint this is.

1215
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,719
Speaker 1: A marathon isn't he going the opposite direction Though that

1216
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,840
you saw the interview where he said that he's going

1217
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,719
to be more involved. In forward, You're right.

1218
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: You're right it might be. An issue you might it

1219
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,519
might be, an issue and that might be the answer,

1220
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:57,920
right there that the gap year is just not a

1221
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,360
valid idea. For them it should it.

1222
01:00:01,079 --> 01:00:03,079
Speaker 1: Should BE so i, was saying is that a stupid question?

1223
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:03,199
Speaker 2: To?

1224
01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: ASK oh i, don't, say yeah.

1225
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,639
Speaker 2: Stupid, question, No, NO no, i, MEAN look i will say,

1226
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:11,000
this though book is getting to an age now where

1227
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,039
it's probably going to be a hard sell. For, him so,

1228
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:18,159
like you you would need to thoroughly communicate it, with

1229
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,119
him and you need to make sure he's on board

1230
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:21,880
before you. Do, anything.

1231
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. HE was i think it bodes well for them

1232
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,440
that he was included in the, coaching search at least that's.

1233
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,880
Per reporting And if, i'm Him though i've seen some

1234
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,599
people say that they shouldn't give him the, two year

1235
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:36,039
one hundred and fifty million. Dollar Extension if, I'm him

1236
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:38,280
i'm not. SIGNING it i can sign for more, next

1237
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,239
Summer and i'm keeping pressure on this organization to make

1238
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480
The right i'm not saying that he should, request out

1239
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,719
although if it, WERE me i. Probably would But LIKE

1240
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,000
i'm i said This About nicole, Jokich too i'm not signing.

1241
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,559
THE extension i want to keep pressure on this organization

1242
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,719
to continue making the right decisions and put me in a.

1243
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,400
Place too if it's not next season then moving forward.

1244
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,239
To WIN so i think that's going to be an

1245
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:02,480
inflection Point for phoenix. As well is that everyone just

1246
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,199
seems to Assume That devin booker is going to sign.

1247
01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:06,599
The deal He. Loves phoenix we all, know that so maybe.

1248
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:09,280
He Does If I'm, devin booker EVEN if i don't want,

1249
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,360
To leave i'm not signing IT because i want the

1250
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,400
team to continue to feel. That Pressure The kevin durant

1251
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,639
stuff is, just though that is the right question, to

1252
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:20,440
ASK and i. DON'T know i don't know how to gauge.

1253
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,159
His VALUE and i was even trying to think of like,

1254
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:24,320
surprise teams like who hasn't been mentioned that could just

1255
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,079
get In The kevin durant sweepstakes because we've Heard the

1256
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,239
knicks And the spurs And, the rockets like how many?

1257
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:30,039
TIMES overall i.

1258
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: Have one but you're gonna hate ME because i FEEL

1259
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,719
like i bring them up as A. The bulls yeah, but, wait,

1260
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,320
really seriously they are just run, so poorly and now

1261
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:47,519
that all this the criticism of them is always affecting their.

1262
01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:50,880
Decision making it is could you not just see how

1263
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,840
they would Trade For kevin durant and just like put

1264
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,800
it on the front time of the front page Of

1265
01:01:57,239 --> 01:01:59,800
The chicago. Trip, youner, whatever look we GOT an mvp.

1266
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:04,719
OR whatever, i MEAN it's I just i don't rule

1267
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:09,079
out anything stupid from. That organization and for them, to acquire,

1268
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,079
you know a soon to be thirty seven year olds

1269
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,519
star and trot him out as the savior of, the

1270
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:18,719
franchise so as they Did With dwayne wade when they

1271
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,679
signed him in, twenty sixteen it JUST would i wouldn't

1272
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:22,920
put it.

1273
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: PAST them I love it's such a good brand to

1274
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:29,360
have where it's, just, like well any teams you just

1275
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,000
go fleece the bulls because because they'll let them be just.

1276
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:35,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely destroyed it's it's funny because people people say that, and,

1277
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:38,199
like oh that's not how. It works it's it's literally how.

1278
01:02:38,239 --> 01:02:41,360
It's worked Like the Spurs, and kings who had made

1279
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:46,119
recent deals, with them deliberately brought them Into The tieran

1280
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:49,719
fox trade to, fleece them and. They did, it's like

1281
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:55,719
this is a perfectly valid to. TEACH choice i.

1282
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: LOVE it. I don't i just can't imagine they're. That

1283
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,239
dumb but if they go ahead And give josh getting

1284
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:02,519
like two hundred million dollars. THIS summer I will i'll

1285
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,400
shut right mouth forever and just defer.

1286
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: TO you, I mean i'm just saying you can't rule.

1287
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,840
It out That's all. I'm saying this isn't a.

1288
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: Surprise team we just haven't talked. About them. Do you

1289
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:13,679
is there any construction that makes sense for Both the Suns.

1290
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:17,920
In minnesota THAT'S why i haven't looked.

1291
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: Into IT but i have to assume it's one of

1292
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,760
those situations where we'll figure something out if that becomes

1293
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,159
like a. Real conversation because they were in on that

1294
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:32,719
discussion obviously and Just. Loves katie that's his. Childhood idol

1295
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,559
it seems like the respect. Is mutual it Seems like

1296
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:39,360
grand isn't ruling that. Destination out, so LIKE while i

1297
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,119
haven't sat down and done the number specifically on What

1298
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,199
a minnesota oriented trade, could be it feels like you

1299
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:48,519
can get that done if you.

1300
01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:52,599
Speaker 1: Want to would you just as a like, framework construction

1301
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,119
we're not matching, It. HERE okay i do think what

1302
01:03:55,199 --> 01:03:58,559
becomes critical For a minnesota offer is You Need julius

1303
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:01,360
randall to. OPT inuse i just, don't, know like are

1304
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,880
You trading jade McDaniels is the primary. Outgoing salary You Trading,

1305
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,320
rudy gobert so You need randall to. Opt in are

1306
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:14,800
you doing Something Like randall devincenzo and then dilling him

1307
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,119
and this year's first round pick you're Getting. FROM detroit

1308
01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:19,159
i think that's, number SEVENTEEN but i should double check

1309
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:19,519
that In case.

1310
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:21,639
Speaker 2: I'm, Longing YEAH i'm i. Probably Am and i'm saying

1311
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:24,639
that As a, dillingham fan, But yeah i'm probably doing that,

1312
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:28,039
BECAUSE look i also need to make sure that my guy.

1313
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:31,800
Is happy mike Guy Wants. Kevin durant is that gonna?

1314
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,400
Appease him is that gonna make him a? Happy camper

1315
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,840
is that gonna sign show a sign of commitment to

1316
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,480
him as Well that i'm going out and? Doing?

1317
01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:42,679
Speaker 1: This, YEAH yeah, i mean and then you're Left, with, GOBERT,

1318
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:49,000
McDaniels Kd, Anthony Edwards mike conley's. Still there you're feeling

1319
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,800
at that point like maybe you're just are you just

1320
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,800
at that point you Have to you're figuring out a

1321
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,800
way to not be hard gapped like it would like

1322
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,679
you're sending out more money than. You're receiving rope in.

1323
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:00,280
The nets another, Team, whatever like are you just paying

1324
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,519
through the teeth And It's Nikkeil alexander walker you're, coming

1325
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:06,159
back And naz reid you're. Coming BACK like i think

1326
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:08,599
at that point you might as well because you're so. All, in,

1327
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:11,480
yeah yeah and you aught Like Maybe tarren Shannon And

1328
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:14,000
john clark will be able to hold you still Have

1329
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,960
in my initial response in my, head, was man that's

1330
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,920
like sacrificing a lot. Of depth but if you're just

1331
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,280
willing to pay nas Reading To Ki, alexander walker it's,

1332
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,320
oh no that team's like really. Fucking, good yeah.

1333
01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:26,119
Speaker 2: It, could be it could be. Really good it's not where,

1334
01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:29,440
you're relinquishing, you know in so much talent to a

1335
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,320
point where you're, gonna look, you know into the playoffs,

1336
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,199
From outside like you're not gonna be on the outside

1337
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:37,039
looking and you're absolutely gonna be in the thick. OF

1338
01:05:37,079 --> 01:05:42,360
things i don't, hate IT and i, think again the

1339
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,440
added benefits of committing yourself to to ant in that

1340
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,840
way that is a. REAL thing I haven't.

1341
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:52,119
Speaker 1: I Don't think i've asked you about, this specifically but if,

1342
01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:55,079
you could and you could, game it, but like if You're,

1343
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:58,079
the nuggets are you giving up the one pick you

1344
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:01,639
could trade the swaps one of your young guys and

1345
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:04,480
then making a salary Work With michael porter Junior Charge

1346
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:06,440
zeke naji are You, doing.

1347
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't ask, me today but YOU and i

1348
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:13,519
had this conversation a couple of, months ago, and yes

1349
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:19,960
the answer Remains yes yoki with, durand, yeah absolutely even though,

1350
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,000
he's old even though you know you don't really know

1351
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:28,000
what's going to go on contractually. Moving, Forward, Absolutely.

1352
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,679
Speaker 1: Yes where would be the so let's say they're quibbling

1353
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,960
over the. YOUNG player i actually really only think the

1354
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,360
only quibble point would be if they Asked For peyton

1355
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,960
watson or if they willing To take, But Yes, Julian strauthor,

1356
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:41,199
Yes obviously but like If It's christian brown is the?

1357
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:42,800
ANSWER now i.

1358
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: Feel as though you have to have a point where

1359
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,519
you just, Say NO and i too would Say That's. Christian,

1360
01:06:48,519 --> 01:06:49,280
BROWN yeah.

1361
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,239
Speaker 1: I agree i'm just too curious if you felt any differently. On,

1362
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:52,639
THAT no.

1363
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: I do i'm very High On. CHRISTIAN brown i think

1364
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,440
there are a lot of people, who aren't which kind

1365
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,360
of weirds me out a. LITTLE bit i think, HE

1366
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,519
is i think he's. REALLY good i think he's become.

1367
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:03,920
QUITE underrated.

1368
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if, he's UNDERRATED but i think he's.

1369
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,440
Really good IT would i would love to see a

1370
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,280
random team just come, in here by, the Way like

1371
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,119
toronto Or man portland would be, really funny, just, like

1372
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:16,960
hey WE have Kd And donovan Klingen And denny avia

1373
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,239
and then you're still gonna have some Version Of Scooter

1374
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,480
anthony Simon's and Shande Like tamani. KAMARA there i. Don't,

1375
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,400
KNOW again i don't know what the compensation is going out.

1376
01:07:24,519 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: Like, THAT actually, i mean if it's up, to you

1377
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,199
it's a one to one Swap between Durand And. Tomani

1378
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:31,840
kamara that like talent why wise in your mind at

1379
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:32,679
least that's gonna be.

1380
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,679
Speaker 1: Once, one no if You're The, portland troublers you got

1381
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,960
to say no. To that you can't come Up To.

1382
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,840
Mony kamara that's out of. This world our, final Team The.

1383
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,679
Sacramento kings moret what is your biggest question For?

1384
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: The kings what the fuck is? Happening?

1385
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: HERE yeah i went on a radio spot the other

1386
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,920
Day With alan styles does a, great job and Just

1387
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,519
like i'm being asked questions About the kings and what they,

1388
01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:02,199
Should DO and i have to always preface it, by

1389
01:08:02,199 --> 01:08:05,119
SAYING if i, were them you strip it down and start. Over,

1390
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:07,280
now yeah but we know they don't operate in. That

1391
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,639
VACUUM and i just, don't like what is the plan?

1392
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:11,800
FROM here i think that's the.

1393
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: RIGHT question i have. No, IDEA look, i mean you

1394
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,800
don't even know what's going to go on With, sa

1395
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,880
bonus like he's going to have that situation that sit

1396
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,720
down with him rather where he's going to ask them about.

1397
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,359
The future what can they even present that? Makes sense

1398
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,960
Keith and murray a GUY who i freaking love coming into.

1399
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,640
THE draft i think it's fair, to say, offensively speaking

1400
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,560
he's made, strives defensively but offensively has not become the

1401
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,439
player that we thought. He'd become is? That him is that?

1402
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,279
The organization is it a little bit. Of BOTH while

1403
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,800
I adore sacklavine as, a player you can't have him

1404
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,319
as your number. ONE guy i think he needs to

1405
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:58,119
go to a place where he's the, secondary guy highly

1406
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:01,079
efficient off guard who should be playing often in the.

1407
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:06,479
Lead Playmaker The demard ROSEN inclusion i when, IT happened

1408
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,640
i tried to talk myself into IT because i could

1409
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,399
see some variation of how. It work but then everything

1410
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:15,159
fell to the GROUND and i, was like, oh yeah

1411
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,600
that was the other side of. The Coin malik, monk

1412
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,119
great great improvements as an on ball creator in. Recent

1413
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:27,079
years still not like a natural point guard, at all

1414
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,640
like primarily still a two playmaking. Two guard, if Anything Love,

1415
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,600
kean ellis does he provide you enough offense to justify

1416
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,960
him in like a large capacity, Starting ROLE like I

1417
01:09:40,039 --> 01:09:41,720
just i don't know what the fuck is up and

1418
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,159
down with. THIS team i have, NO idea.

1419
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't i don't have any answers. THERE Either I

1420
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:52,600
demanda sabonis did basically call for them to get a

1421
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,560
point guard during his. Exit interview they, need that which

1422
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,600
is a wild thing that you Have, Zach Lavine Tomarta Rosenham,

1423
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,560
league monk but like you need the end si bonus.

1424
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,920
As well but you need someone to actually replace like

1425
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,960
the workload That The aaron fox, was taking who can

1426
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,640
be the like run the offense too from the, outside

1427
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,119
in not just do this the bonus type. Of stuff,

1428
01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:13,960
and look there are names they should have a non taxperiment,

1429
01:10:14,039 --> 01:10:16,720
level exception but like it just gets all sorts. Of

1430
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,920
hazy so we're gonna bring in another guard and that's

1431
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,680
you can't keep tomart ros in another Guard And zach

1432
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,560
Lavine And maligue monk on. This TEAM and I Know

1433
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,039
malige Monk can like that's someone who can create a

1434
01:10:27,039 --> 01:10:28,840
lot out of their. Driving kicks you just need more

1435
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,680
of like that conventional FLOOR general i think to pair

1436
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,279
With the bonus and like what do you look like defensively,

1437
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:37,079
after That like kean allis. Good defender we'll see what

1438
01:10:37,119 --> 01:10:38,640
we get Out, of debt see what they get Out

1439
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,840
Of devin carter. This Year, keithan murray as, you said

1440
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,119
has made a ton of. Strides there they could also

1441
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,279
you could also argue like They Have Jonas alan cunis

1442
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:48,000
there and he proved useful, for them but it'd be

1443
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:50,840
cool to have a different type of four option or

1444
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,199
like another big like a more of a rim protector Behind,

1445
01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:55,720
the bonus or maybe someone who could Play With. Sa

1446
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,159
bonis there's just a lot of boxes that this team

1447
01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:02,039
still needs. To check because if you said they have,

1448
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:05,159
this talent like do you feel can they approximate like

1449
01:11:05,239 --> 01:11:06,840
having a, number one like do you think With, de

1450
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,800
Rosens a Bonus and levine that they, usually, say oh

1451
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,640
they'll approximate like, the offense you don't need to need

1452
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,119
you don't need to look for like The arn fox

1453
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:18,760
was giving you a primary scorers punch at the point.

1454
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,920
Guard position can you at least look at this team, and,

1455
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,199
say well they don't need that out of the point.

1456
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: Guard, spot, UH well, i, mean look they kind. Of

1457
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,199
do because if that number one option isn't the, floor

1458
01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:36,520
leader who else?

1459
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: IS it, I don't. I don't i don't have.

1460
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 2: An answer that's that's kind Of where. I'm fallback you

1461
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,119
Don't want levine to go into like the the number one.

1462
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:50,319
Tier role we saw That. In chicago he was. Over

1463
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,079
text we Saw De martin rosen play that tier. One

1464
01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:57,239
role he did it fine in his first Year. In

1465
01:11:57,319 --> 01:12:00,439
chicago but that's what three years ago will be four

1466
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,520
years ago at the start of. Next season you can't approximate.

1467
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,520
That Anymore si bonus isn't a shot creator to the

1468
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,319
extent where he can be the. First option he needs

1469
01:12:09,359 --> 01:12:12,199
to be set up. A lot he's not. That guy

1470
01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:17,479
so by process, of elimination it almost has to be

1471
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,199
a point guard or a playmaker who comes in, and,

1472
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:23,840
Says yeah i'm running the. Goddamn show i'm the. First

1473
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,039
option i'm the. Primary playmaker i'm the, one who, you

1474
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:31,000
know cobbles this entire. Offense together because it Can't, be

1475
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:34,199
sack Can't, be tomorrow Can't, be sabonis Can't Be. Keikan,

1476
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:39,239
murray sorry it. Just can't it can't be any of those.

1477
01:12:39,279 --> 01:12:42,039
Foreign guys those four guys have to play off. OF someone.

1478
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,079
Speaker 1: I think i feel like that goes a little bit of,

1479
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:49,520
an extreme but it's ALSO just i can't you're saying

1480
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,000
that they need to play off. OF somebody i Think

1481
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,119
The marta rosen could technically be in the, right system

1482
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:57,199
someone that's used as just like the playmaking strides he's

1483
01:12:57,239 --> 01:12:58,920
made over, the PAST like i, don't guess like seven

1484
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,920
years the point.

1485
01:13:01,039 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: Which he hasn't utilized during the entirety Of his chicago

1486
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,640
era and and then not as well. THIS year, i

1487
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,319
mean he he had It In, san antonio then he

1488
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,279
Came to chicago and he, basically said well, Fuck that

1489
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:14,760
i'm just.

1490
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:20,239
Speaker 1: GONNA shoot, i mean how many guards did you have

1491
01:13:20,399 --> 01:13:23,479
working in Also? In CHICAGO and I don't i DON'T

1492
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,960
think i LOOKED at i MAYBE like i just wasn't watching,

1493
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,439
CLOSELY enough, i GUESS but i didn't Look At demarta

1494
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,640
rosa as like a playmaking net Negative.

1495
01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:33,199
Speaker 2: In, chicago, no, no no. He wasn't But what I'm what,

1496
01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:36,199
i'm saying is he when he Was In, san antonio

1497
01:13:36,319 --> 01:13:39,600
he was kind, of balancing, you know scoring responsibility with

1498
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,479
playmaking right like he was the primary. Offensive engine he

1499
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,880
was the guy who said. Guys up he also called

1500
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,199
for his, own number but he did it under, you

1501
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:51,119
know some some he was a little bit more moderate

1502
01:13:51,399 --> 01:13:53,720
in his in his. Offensive approach then he Came to

1503
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,279
chicago and it was just handcuffs. Were off it was

1504
01:13:57,359 --> 01:14:00,640
all about. Like scoring he had the in his hands

1505
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:05,920
plenty to do, playmaking stuff but it more than more times,

1506
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,960
than not it ended up in a shot attempt that

1507
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:14,039
persisted throughout His entire chicago tenure and has continued Into the.

1508
01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:16,800
Sacramento year SO while i agree with you that he

1509
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:22,359
has the, SKILL set i am racing serious questions as

1510
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:25,600
to whether or not he is willing to apply them

1511
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:30,600
to become more of a creature than. A score.

1512
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: I think. IT'S on, I look i think to, your point,

1513
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,800
he's older and even at his best, PASSING version i

1514
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,039
don't think you want him being your number one. PLAYMAKING

1515
01:14:41,079 --> 01:14:42,800
option i just, don't, THINK like i don't know if

1516
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,720
they need to play off someone like he is someone

1517
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,399
who would, be quintessential come in and create the secondary offense.

1518
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,640
For EVERYBODY so i. GET that i GUESS what i

1519
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,159
was more so focused on is could you, go out

1520
01:14:54,199 --> 01:14:56,439
like you've mentioned him for every, single team if you

1521
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,960
went out and got A, Highas, jones like are you

1522
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,399
saying you need more of a score punch if you're

1523
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,439
going to sign your, game, manager playmaker whatever you want to.

1524
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,399
Speaker 2: CALL them i Actually Like tys jones for. This team

1525
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,960
he's obviously not a. First option you're, Absolutely right but

1526
01:15:11,319 --> 01:15:15,199
that's always been through the lens of what is what

1527
01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:18,800
is realistic For, The Kings Like tys jones is realistic,

1528
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,359
FOR them i don't think it's realistic asking for a.

1529
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,840
PRIMARY creator i don't think it's it's realistic going for,

1530
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,479
that Superstar That luka doncic guy who just has everything

1531
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,600
handled and everyone else play off of. That GUY so,

1532
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,640
i think regardless of what we're talking, about Here the

1533
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:39,119
kings are not going to have. That guy they're going

1534
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:41,319
to have to get satisfied with the players that they

1535
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:44,680
have and like try to figure out something, There, LIKE

1536
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:47,319
yeah i would like To See tiz jones on this

1537
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:50,479
team based on the realistic opportunities they have. At hand

1538
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:53,760
is that going? To change they're what they need. TO

1539
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:54,359
have i don't.

1540
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: Think so would you consider going for like one of

1541
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,399
the bigger name like this is going to cost you

1542
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,079
and you do have some, to spare and it's gonna.

1543
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:02,840
COST you i mean we're mentioning all. These players if

1544
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,039
you're getting someone, of consequence you're trading at least One Of,

1545
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:09,680
Zack Lvine demarta Rosen Or. Malik monk probably are you

1546
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,640
Looking at if You're, The Kings, Trey Young? LaMelo ball

1547
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,399
should they should they go back To The bulls well

1548
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:16,520
and try And Get kobe white.

1549
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: On this it's funny you say That The bulls Well because,

1550
01:16:20,039 --> 01:16:24,920
ricky O'Donnell host Of, cash considerations is almost Convinced the

1551
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:30,319
bulls are going to Trade for sabonis this summer and relinquish,

1552
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,319
you know draft picks and ironically booch, and stuff which

1553
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:39,039
would just be. Fucking Hilarious Like Damar levine vouch returned

1554
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:43,000
back again Just. In sacramento that'd. Be fun but If

1555
01:16:43,039 --> 01:16:46,079
the bulls were to do that and then relinquish picks

1556
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:49,239
to get. The bonus suddenly that, becomes, interesting right because

1557
01:16:49,279 --> 01:16:51,640
then now you have additional picks to. Spare something you

1558
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,960
actually have an acid trove of fair a fair bunch

1559
01:16:56,399 --> 01:17:00,640
of of of, attractive picks and you have. Matchable contracts

1560
01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:03,640
now you might actually be ready to go out and

1561
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,479
make a play for real number one and start off.

1562
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:06,840
THAT way.

1563
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:10,520
Speaker 1: I guess i mean my question with my actual question,

1564
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,119
for THEM because i don't have any idea what this team.

1565
01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:15,199
IS doing i want to Know if kigemur gets an

1566
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:17,479
extension and how much. It's for i'm just curious to

1567
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,800
see Where his, you know how they value, Him internally

1568
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,640
but what, YOU'RE saying i THINK if i thought that

1569
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,640
they WOULD actually i guess unless he asked, FOR it

1570
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,039
i don't see Them. Shopping sabonis i'm very curious, to

1571
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:32,560
like What is sabonis's, trade VALUE and i Think any

1572
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,760
kings fans that listen, TO me I Had doma sabonis

1573
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,560
As AN all nba player. THIS year i think he was.

1574
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,640
REALLY good i think he's a fantastic. Basketball player but

1575
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,920
he's such a specific fit when you look at both

1576
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,279
his strengths and his weaknesses it undermines a bit of his.

1577
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:49,279
Trade VALUE and i also think YOU and i have

1578
01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:52,359
talked about this. At length we it feels like we're

1579
01:17:52,359 --> 01:17:54,119
gonna enter. THE phase i don't know if we're, there

1580
01:17:54,199 --> 01:17:55,800
yet but it feels like we're gonna enter the phase

1581
01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:01,319
where these max is. Near max, the extension the renegotiating extent,

1582
01:18:01,359 --> 01:18:04,159
he got the One That larry. Marketing got those deals

1583
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:07,640
aren't gonna be. Just, considered yeah do them for players

1584
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,039
who are not top fifteen to twenty guys like universally

1585
01:18:11,319 --> 01:18:15,800
consensus and demas a bonus falls into. THAT bucket i

1586
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,319
would be very curious to see what teams would be interested.

1587
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,720
IN him i think there are some. FUN ones i

1588
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,319
caught SHIT because i, Was like i'm gonna be funny

1589
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:25,600
to see him Reunite In san Antonio With daron fox

1590
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,359
like Him And wemby like that actually makes a lot

1591
01:18:27,359 --> 01:18:29,840
of sense when you Look at sabonis's strengths. And weaknesses

1592
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,359
he can stretch. THE floor i think maybe the team

1593
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:35,520
that's most interesting to Me, Is phoenix like can they?

1594
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,119
Parlay There kevin durant return Into. DOMAS sabonis i think

1595
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:39,840
him Next To devin booker makes a lot, Of SENSE

1596
01:18:40,079 --> 01:18:43,640
but i don't Know what sabonis's market, would, be right

1597
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,279
and this has nothing of what Are the kings trying

1598
01:18:46,279 --> 01:18:48,600
to accomplish as part Of A demont's? Sibonis trade because

1599
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,319
even if he asked, her out are you sure one

1600
01:18:51,399 --> 01:18:55,279
hundred percent sure that the front office that vivek ronadive

1601
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,039
would sit there and, say like we kind of have

1602
01:18:57,079 --> 01:18:58,840
to rebuild or they still going to try and keep

1603
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,920
whatever window they think is. Open open.

1604
01:19:02,359 --> 01:19:03,359
Speaker 2: Probably the latter.

1605
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:05,520
Speaker 1: So, terrifying.

1606
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah but it's a, fair point and that might be

1607
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,960
the number one question with a bullet when you think,

1608
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,239
about it what is the trade value of? These guys

1609
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,680
like what can you? Actually get perhaps that's the first

1610
01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:20,199
thing that they have to, figure out is what can

1611
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:24,159
we actually Get, for Sabonis, froy Levine, for Drosan for

1612
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,079
murray for, That, sake like what are some of the

1613
01:19:28,119 --> 01:19:30,640
offers that we know are on? The table what are

1614
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:33,319
what is the value of these guys so we can

1615
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:38,399
enter a postseason, or sorry an, Off season so excuse

1616
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,640
me with a realistic sense of what we can Get

1617
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,199
for that might have to just be the number one

1618
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:45,640
thing they have to.

1619
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: Figure out what would you to kind of pivot off, of,

1620
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,520
this well or do you Have any sabonis teams that?

1621
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:55,319
Speaker 2: YOU like, I don't and THE reason i don't is

1622
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,239
and you, said it he's such a. Specific player he's

1623
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,119
he's not a, rim protect he's not, a well he's

1624
01:20:03,159 --> 01:20:05,920
a low volume, floor Spacer, right like he's not a

1625
01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:10,600
natural catch and shoot guy who is like high volume three.

1626
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,239
Point shooter so you know where. He operates he operates

1627
01:20:13,239 --> 01:20:15,119
in the, mid post he operates in the, high post,

1628
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,239
low post and he's, an elite, elite rebounder. Elite playmaker

1629
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,359
gives you a bunch, of physicality high. Efficiency scoring, That's

1630
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,479
great but if he is your, first option he comes

1631
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,399
with a ceiling for. Your Team so i'm just trying

1632
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:39,800
to figure out what team out there has already a

1633
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:45,039
first option who's, significantly better who doesn't have a strong

1634
01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:48,640
defensive need because he doesn't, provide that nor do they

1635
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,119
have a particularly strong. Spacing Need and i'm coming up a.

1636
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,479
LITTLE short i think.

1637
01:20:54,359 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: If you're gonna play him, at center it almost feels

1638
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,840
like it's, either OR because i think he's, For, what

1639
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:02,199
like if he's, a center the floor spacing he's shown

1640
01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:04,479
specifically over the past, two seasons that's more than enough.

1641
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,199
To me so if you're gonna play him, at center

1642
01:21:07,359 --> 01:21:09,880
then it's can we insulate? Him defensively but if, you're,

1643
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:11,840
thinking oh we need to play him next to another big,

1644
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:14,359
then yeah that's when the floor spacing question really comes. Into.

1645
01:21:14,359 --> 01:21:17,520
Speaker 2: Play, Yeah YEAH and i feel like you kind of

1646
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,359
have to because he's not a. ROOM protector, i.

1647
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:24,239
Speaker 1: Mean the kings have like shown at points they can

1648
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,359
string together like an averagist defense, with him in part

1649
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:29,479
because of the rebounding And Like keegan murray is one

1650
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,720
of the best things he's thinks he's done defensively is

1651
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,439
just like being the low man. At TIMES so i

1652
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,279
think there are ways you could game in. A round

1653
01:21:37,319 --> 01:21:40,039
but that's what that's what makes this bonus discussion so

1654
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:42,319
fascinating why he's PROBABLY also i think he would be

1655
01:21:42,319 --> 01:21:45,520
more valuable To a kings team trying to win than

1656
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,520
Even a king's team trying to rebuild as a. Trade

1657
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,119
ASSET like i think his value in the former route

1658
01:21:50,119 --> 01:21:52,680
strips that at, the ladder WHICH is i feel like

1659
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,039
an asshole for saying when this is such a, good

1660
01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:57,680
player but like the functionality of the way that he.

1661
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,359
Is impactful it's very unique and specific in a way

1662
01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:04,960
that can sometimes. Be, LIMITING yeah. I agree what would

1663
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,520
You Give kegan murray in an extension?

1664
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: Right now i'm Probably like i'm looking to. Squeeze him

1665
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,319
i'm absolutely looking to squeez him after the year he.

1666
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,279
Just HAD so i would start as slow at as

1667
01:22:18,359 --> 01:22:20,640
fifteen million a year because he's not going to. Take

1668
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,319
THAT but I want i want to SEE if i

1669
01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:25,880
can get him panicked enough and then probably settle in

1670
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,239
for something along the long the lines of eighteen million.

1671
01:22:28,279 --> 01:22:31,079
Speaker 1: Per, year wow i'd probably. GO higher.

1672
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:33,119
Speaker 2: I don't i think I'd be i'm NOT saying i wouldn't,

1673
01:22:33,159 --> 01:22:35,239
go Higher but i'm starting. Real low.

1674
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: If he's willing to sign for like four and, one, Hundred.

1675
01:22:42,319 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 2: No i'm not.

1676
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,079
Speaker 1: Doing, THAT wow i would do that in. A heartbeat.

1677
01:22:45,119 --> 01:22:45,720
THAT'S interesting I.

1678
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: Wouldn't i get the. DEFENSIVE improvements i am super worried

1679
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,560
about his offense. Moving forward he seems like a guy

1680
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,479
who just gets so shaken mentally in terms of like

1681
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,039
the confidence comes. In Waves if i'm investing one hundred

1682
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:07,239
million in, a player even in today's, SALARY structure i

1683
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:11,760
just can't have someone who bends that way in terms, of,

1684
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,720
Like oh i'm a little doubt. On myself i'm going

1685
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,720
to go through two weeks of hitting like twenty five

1686
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,800
percent of. MY threes. I can't i need someone who's

1687
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,920
going to come in and take those shots, with purpose

1688
01:23:22,119 --> 01:23:25,680
with confidence and not just the. Three pointers like we've

1689
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,880
seen in year two that he had some on ball

1690
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:33,479
chops and he had some opportunity to display that this season,

1691
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,000
as well where he just Didn't when damar was off

1692
01:23:37,039 --> 01:23:39,279
the floor and he was in a position to sort.

1693
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:44,760
Of create so like he's just not exploring himself whatsoever on,

1694
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,600
the floor and that Concerns that that greatly.

1695
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 1: Worries me I've always i've kind of more chalked it

1696
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,039
up to Like the kings, than him like that they're

1697
01:23:53,079 --> 01:23:56,119
the shooting inconsistency can, be weird but he's so they've

1698
01:23:56,159 --> 01:23:59,199
made him so reliant on him getting the ball from

1699
01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:01,680
other PEOPLE that, I actually i. DON'T know I guess

1700
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,159
i don't KNOW if i SHOULD say, i DISAGREE but

1701
01:24:03,159 --> 01:24:04,720
i don't know that he's been afforded the time in

1702
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,640
space to see if he has like real more on

1703
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:08,479
ball chops.

1704
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,199
Speaker 2: To explore and, that's fair But that i'm not investing

1705
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:13,479
in THAT if i don't, KNOW that i know you don't.

1706
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Know that but it's just Like If I'm keegan murray

1707
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,520
and like they're just the hardlining at four and, One

1708
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,279
hundred I'm probably i'll take it to restricted free agency

1709
01:24:20,279 --> 01:24:22,600
when there's more. CAP space i think teams he's at

1710
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,279
least shown that he's on the very high end of

1711
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:29,119
THREE and d and we've seen those players get some like.

1712
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,680
Serious money and unless you think that, the LEAGUE because

1713
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,079
i don't Know That keegan murray's defensive value is is

1714
01:24:35,279 --> 01:24:39,079
like nationally known now just among like fans and people,

1715
01:24:39,119 --> 01:24:42,199
like us, let's Say but i'm SURE, the nba like

1716
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:45,239
people inside the understand how valuable, is defensively for what

1717
01:24:45,279 --> 01:24:47,479
he is offensively now and what he, PROVIDES defensively i

1718
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,279
think that's more than a twenty five million dollars a.

1719
01:24:49,319 --> 01:24:53,439
Year player But maybe. I'M wrong i just the pecking

1720
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,079
order has Overturned in sacramento like a couple of times

1721
01:24:56,119 --> 01:24:58,600
since he's, been there and in multiple times last season

1722
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,159
when you look at The darn fox trade you Brought Into,

1723
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:05,199
marto ROZEN so i it makes HIS but I will

1724
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:06,840
i think the thing we are you're on. His extension

1725
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,920
negotiations are so complex because Of the kings's direction or,

1726
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,079
lack thereof and because it feels like he either hasn't

1727
01:25:14,119 --> 01:25:17,319
proven enough offensively or we don't have enough information on,

1728
01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:20,800
him offensively and then it's you get into playing the playing, game, there,

1729
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,880
like well who's that fault? For that for the, most.

1730
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: Part right also adding to the complexity of the situation

1731
01:25:27,119 --> 01:25:29,720
is the fact that he'll be twenty five starting next.

1732
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: To, year yeah. That's ready is one of the older

1733
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:32,760
guys on The rookie yeah.

1734
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: HE is, i mean that's just something you have to

1735
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,199
bag into. It ALL like i will, Say this i'll

1736
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:41,479
trust him More Than. Josh getty out give hi More Than,

1737
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,720
josh kitty, FOR sure.

1738
01:25:45,319 --> 01:25:48,039
Speaker 1: I would say that's damning with. Faint praise.

1739
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm just say, and look Not saying i'll give it

1740
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:53,319
more if the Bulls Gift.

1741
01:25:53,399 --> 01:25:57,239
Speaker 1: Josh kitty So Whatever josh kiddy gets locked, in at

1742
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,560
that's What the kings have to that's What the kings have.

1743
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:00,720
To give key. Heard IT.

1744
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 2: But, i, mean look and it's NOT like i don't.

1745
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,039
Like him he's actually one of THE guys i had

1746
01:26:07,319 --> 01:26:09,640
like the best eye too when he came out of.

1747
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,199
THE draft i, was, LIKE yeah i trust. THIS dude

1748
01:26:12,279 --> 01:26:15,680
i am all in on. That EXPERIENCE and i thought

1749
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,039
he had a rookie season where he was shoehorn into

1750
01:26:19,079 --> 01:26:21,840
like just, taking threes and the word coming Out of

1751
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,560
sacramento at the time was, don't worry like he'll get

1752
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,239
more reps on ball in, gear two and. He did to,

1753
01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:30,880
their credit he. Actually did and then, we, thought oh

1754
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:33,520
year three is when he's. Gonna, pop, then like now

1755
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,399
he's building that up for him not to pop in

1756
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,439
that system when there was a need for, you know

1757
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:44,359
both floor spacing and high efficiency. Offensive creation him not

1758
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,239
even being able to get to the free throw, line

1759
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:51,800
whatsoever like point nine point nine attempts, Per, game, like

1760
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,479
yeah we can see here and chalk it up to.

1761
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,439
The organization. THAT'S fine i don't have any issues, with

1762
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:01,640
that because that organization is. RUN weirdly i still need

1763
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,520
to see Something before, i'm, like, oh yeah fuck that,

1764
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,920
one million one hundred and twenty, five million let's, Go

1765
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,039
NUTS like I just i can't. Get There but i'm,

1766
01:27:10,039 --> 01:27:12,560
also like, You know i'm a safety in seat belts kind.

1767
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,520
Speaker 1: Of, guy well if you're a safety and, seatbelts guy

1768
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,680
if he's not signing an extension that, you're offering are

1769
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,600
you willing to take it to restricted? Free agency or

1770
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,119
is this become orre they going to Trade A keigan.

1771
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:23,800
Murray Thing and i'll preface this, by saying with any,

1772
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,239
OTHER organization i would assume it goes to restricted, Free

1773
01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:29,159
agency but because It's, THE kings i just wouldn't roll

1774
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:29,760
out anything at.

1775
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: THIS point i would go to restricted free agency, because

1776
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,880
look that has proven to be a market where you

1777
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,720
can really, Squeeze GUYS so i wouldn't be. Too WORRIED

1778
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,840
like i don't think he's going to have A year

1779
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,720
ford leap where he's going to be Like a max

1780
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,680
guy or A near. MAX guy i just don't. See it,

1781
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:51,319
and look if he does become significantly better in, YEAR

1782
01:27:51,359 --> 01:27:54,640
four i have no issues paying for what a guy.

1783
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:55,399
Is worth.

1784
01:27:57,359 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else on? This team.

1785
01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: Just figure, it, Out Man, JESUS christ.

1786
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:07,319
Speaker 1: I don't i honestly don't. Know where we know that

1787
01:28:07,319 --> 01:28:09,079
they have, clear NEEDS but i don't know how they're

1788
01:28:09,119 --> 01:28:11,399
gonna go about. Addressing them they probably do have the

1789
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,800
assets to address some, of THEM but I just I

1790
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,840
guess i need to see what their first move is

1791
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:20,399
of the offseason to kind of, Understand, like okay this

1792
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,000
is where, they're going because even if you assume that

1793
01:28:23,039 --> 01:28:25,920
they're not gonna LOOK to i, don't know tread water,

1794
01:28:26,359 --> 01:28:29,199
Or rebuild i'm, just, curious, like well who is the

1795
01:28:29,239 --> 01:28:31,720
player that they've, identified as whether it's a free agent

1796
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,680
or a, trade target that this is someone who's gonna

1797
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,760
help us get to where we're trying? To? Go right

1798
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,239
do you wanna let our subscribers and listeners know where

1799
01:28:38,399 --> 01:28:39,800
they can find you and all the work that.

1800
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,279
Speaker 2: You, do, yes sir you can find me Over At,

1801
01:28:42,279 --> 01:28:44,800
blue SKY, AT. Msja nba you can find my work

1802
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,239
Over At yahoo Sports. AND forbes i run, the PODCAST The,

1803
01:28:48,359 --> 01:28:52,039
nba podcast and if You, Speak Danish busser beat will

1804
01:28:52,079 --> 01:28:52,880
be a. Podcast.

1805
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Feature definitely this is about until. Next time it has

1806
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,560
always the shout out to, the one, the only the

1807
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,720
player who could Fix The sacramento kings and turn them

1808
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,279
into championship, contenders Overnight Mister Frank gila chino