Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Oh ho, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: hi doing We are into December, We're into the holidays
Speaker 2: and that means we are bundling up and not going
Speaker 2: out as much. And it is Christmas time. Yeah, December
Speaker 2: is Christmas time.
Speaker 3: I hope you're doing well. Hi.
Speaker 2: This is Cliff and welcome to Destiny. Today, we are
Speaker 2: kind of taking an approach that we haven't taken before,
Speaker 2: which is breath work. And it's funny because you know what,
Speaker 2: we had this series on the biohacking and a breathwork
Speaker 2: doesn't really come up in biohacking. But the more I
Speaker 2: think about it, it's a way to detox.
Speaker 3: And today's guest is.
Speaker 2: Going to give us a kind of an update on
Speaker 2: a new technique of breath work that lends itself to
Speaker 2: greater intuition, greater states of clarity, which does go along
Speaker 2: with breathwork. But I think you're going to find that
Speaker 2: our guest today has a different take on breath work.
Speaker 2: And years ago there was the rebirthing movement and this
Speaker 2: is probably nineteen eighties through the two thousands, and breath
Speaker 2: work was you almost hyperventilated. I was into it for
Speaker 2: a little bit. But when you did breath work, you
Speaker 2: were breathing very quickly to fill the lungs and oxygenate
Speaker 2: the body and the brain. And the goal was to
Speaker 2: relive traumatic periods in your life, to call upon issues
Speaker 2: that are bothering you and to clear them. And these
Speaker 2: were forms of toxins that you were carrying around, and
Speaker 2: that that typically happens with a lot of different breathwork
Speaker 2: because when you're breathing consciously and sucking in concentrated air,
Speaker 2: you are detoxing the body, you are expanding and passing
Speaker 2: great amounts of air through the body, and all kinds
Speaker 2: of wonderful things can happen.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 2: I wasn't very much into it like some people were.
Speaker 2: There's there's a number of different programs. One of the
Speaker 2: other breathing UH techniques is holotrophic breathing, which is very
Speaker 2: popular still. But the great thing about breathing techniques, and
Speaker 2: also there's some there's some meditative techniques that use breathing
Speaker 2: or the breath is the the clarification is the is
Speaker 2: the enhancing the cellular level and clearing clearing toxic clearing
Speaker 2: aches and pains of the emotional body and I think
Speaker 2: it fits very well within the biohacking movement, and so
Speaker 2: we're having this guest today talk a little bit about it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: What I find is fun about this author is that
Speaker 2: she has tapped into a cellular level that connects the
Speaker 2: body mind in spirit, so that you have downloads of
Speaker 2: what you should be doing, or what she calls discovering
Speaker 2: your life purpose. Now, a lot of people use different
Speaker 2: techniques to uncover your life purpose, and that's not necessarily
Speaker 2: an easy thing because you may work in a nine
Speaker 2: to five existence and not have a sense of what
Speaker 2: you are here to do. And there's people that are
Speaker 2: martyrs and are like, what do you mean? What am
Speaker 2: I here to do?
Speaker 3: I'm here.
Speaker 2: I'm working as a lawyer, I'm working as a physician,
Speaker 2: and I'm flipping burgers at McDonald's. I'm working at a
Speaker 2: gas pump up a mechanic. I'm an engineer. That's what
Speaker 2: I've chose to do. Well, what that life purpose means
Speaker 2: is that there's on a cellular level, on a soul,
Speaker 2: higher self, higher wisdom level, you incarnated and you are
Speaker 2: supposed to do a job that you are here to do,
Speaker 2: that you are fully equipped to do. On a more
Speaker 2: of a harmonious level, which is something that you love
Speaker 2: you do, you work and you love what you do.
Speaker 3: And you've heard of people like that.
Speaker 2: They go through life, they're working at a regular job,
Speaker 2: they're doing their engineering work, and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they're like they have an aha moment, like I don't
Speaker 2: want to do this anymore. I'd rather consult on my
Speaker 2: own I'd rather have my own business as a consultant.
Speaker 2: Or I would like to do artistic work, but I
Speaker 2: want to do it so I can make a living,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you've heard stories like this, so
Speaker 2: are pro today covers this what you were.
Speaker 3: Here to do?
Speaker 2: Your life's purpose or your purpose in being here on
Speaker 2: the planet. And I think there's a lot of dissatisfaction
Speaker 2: in the work industry with people, and I'm one of them.
Speaker 2: For years I worked in corporate America and it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of a it's kind of a dead environment because
Speaker 2: you're you're like a number. You're sitting in meetings with
Speaker 2: other people who are just bored out of their minds,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. You're making it, You're
Speaker 2: getting a paycheck, and in some cases it's very good,
Speaker 2: but you hate your job, and I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to be. And I can tell
Speaker 2: you that from a personal aspect. I wasn't into podcasting initially,
Speaker 2: but as somebody who's artistic, you know, I was trained
Speaker 2: as an artist, went to college to become an illustrator,
Speaker 2: and later got a degree in business marketing. I had
Speaker 2: no idea about podcasting. I did it as a side
Speaker 2: gig for clients who wanted to have podcasts, and I
Speaker 2: grew into it. If you go back to twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: some of the early podcasts that I did, you can
Speaker 2: hear it in my voice. I'm like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: not like a kid. Of course, the tech wasn't great
Speaker 2: back then, but and I was kind of moved into it.
Speaker 2: But this is a natural extension of why I'm here,
Speaker 2: and I've grown to really enjoy and appreciate podcasting simply
Speaker 2: because of the way to communicate with you, but also
Speaker 2: to give others a place to talk, to present information
Speaker 2: from a book, to present perspectives and information that I
Speaker 2: hope you, as a listener, enjoy, and so far you do.
Speaker 2: So we all have more of a life purpose than
Speaker 2: we think, and many of you may have jobs that
Speaker 2: you really love and you're like, this is it for me, babe,
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. Others of you may just be miserable,
Speaker 2: and I think you're you may get something out of
Speaker 2: the program. So today's program is Unlock Your Purpose breath Work,
Speaker 2: Intuition and Flow State, and my guest is Francesca Symthma.
Speaker 2: There are so many different techniques out there for breath work,
Speaker 2: and I've had an opportunity to try a few of them.
Speaker 2: I did the rebirthing years ago, and the thing I
Speaker 2: didn't like about rebirthing is that I would hyperventilate, but
Speaker 2: that was part of the process of shifting your consciousness
Speaker 2: and having some air not air whatever. But today we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about a brand new program, a form
Speaker 2: of breath work, but not only just breath work, intuition
Speaker 2: and getting into a state of wellness or harmony. That
Speaker 2: is really a powerful program. My guest today is Francesca Sidma,
Speaker 2: and she has written a book called Unblock Your Purpose,
Speaker 2: breath Work, Intuition and Flow State.
Speaker 3: And what makes.
Speaker 2: Francesca so unique is she has a corporate background where
Speaker 2: she was working as an advertiser marketing person in a
Speaker 2: very fast paced agency, and at some point she was like,
Speaker 2: what am I doing here? And you hear this in
Speaker 2: her book, and I want to just mention that not
Speaker 2: only was she in the corporate world, she was working
Speaker 2: with major clients like Google, Marriott, Baccardy in a ten
Speaker 2: year journey that at some point, and we're going to
Speaker 2: find out about this today, she decided that this was
Speaker 2: not for her.
Speaker 3: And what comes up is.
Speaker 2: What is her true purpose? And so we're going to
Speaker 2: find out all about this. Francesca, Welcome to Destiny. Great
Speaker 2: to have you on the program today.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. I'm excited to be.
Speaker 2: Here talk about the corporate world. Before we started, we
Speaker 2: were kind of reminiscing I was working for PayPal for
Speaker 2: a while, and although it's well pained and it's kind
Speaker 2: of exciting, there's something about it that's just not copasetic,
Speaker 2: is it.
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I think it kind of goes through phases.
Speaker 1: When you're younger, you don't really know to expect. And
Speaker 1: I think that the grind, especially in New York City,
Speaker 1: was just sort of table stakes. So I went into
Speaker 1: it thinking, you know, this is how hard everybody works,
Speaker 1: and this is how much you have to hustle and
Speaker 1: how competitive and cutthroat it can be, and it just
Speaker 1: became a conditioned part of my life and my lifestyle.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't really until I hit sort of those
Speaker 1: big milestones and those goals that I was really striving
Speaker 1: for and I didn't have anywhere else to go, that
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to really reflect and be like,
Speaker 1: am I happy? And the answer was definitely not.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you open your book and you're
Speaker 2: like taking adderall. You're taking these drugs to wake up,
Speaker 2: to go to sleep, to maintain. That's going to catch
Speaker 2: up with you pretty quickly. Talk about that lifestyle that
Speaker 2: you were adhering to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was extremely intense. So for about a decade,
Speaker 1: I was setting an alarm at five am taking an adderall,
Speaker 1: which was unprescribed by the way, I do not have ADHD.
Speaker 1: I was doing it for the adrenaline and for the productivity,
Speaker 1: and I would hit it double workout. I would go
Speaker 1: to boxing, then I would sprint over to a hot
Speaker 1: yoga class. I would shower in the gym, go straight
Speaker 1: to work, do a twelve sometimes fourteen hour day, and
Speaker 1: then I would chug a bottle of wine take a
Speaker 1: xanax and pass out. And that was my lifestyle for
Speaker 1: almost ten years. So it was extremely taxing on my body.
Speaker 1: But again I had no reference point of something else.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people lived a very intense
Speaker 1: lifestyle in New York City. We all partied hard, we
Speaker 1: all worked extremely hard. So I didn't really know how
Speaker 1: out of alignment I was until I left New York.
Speaker 2: When was the aha moment that you needed to move
Speaker 2: beyond that corporate lifestyle and into something else.
Speaker 1: I very distinctly remember this moment. I was actually in
Speaker 1: Cape Town, South Africa. I had just traveled their business
Speaker 1: class for a global mart getting shoot on Bacardi and
Speaker 1: I was running the shoot on my own multimillion dollar production,
Speaker 1: and I was staying at a five star hotel and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is it. This is what I
Speaker 1: dreamed about when I was a young girl. You know,
Speaker 1: this is like the executive director job. And I was
Speaker 1: on this really glamorous shoot and I was crying in
Speaker 1: my hotel room. I was like, I'm just so unfulfilled
Speaker 1: and I feel so empty, and if I can hit
Speaker 1: the peak of the mountain and I don't feel a gratitude,
Speaker 1: I don't feel a celebration, I don't feel a joy.
Speaker 1: Then something's truly wrong here. And so that's what sort
Speaker 1: of set me off on a quest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you described traveling to another of exotic countries and
Speaker 2: kind of taking time off. Was that kind of like
Speaker 2: I'm sick of this job, I need to find out
Speaker 2: who I am. Is that what launched that kind of
Speaker 2: introspective journey.
Speaker 1: So it's funny. I actually before I got to that point,
Speaker 1: I tried San Francis. I thought, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I need something more entrepreneurial. I think I want more autonomy.
Speaker 1: Maybe that will bring me more joy. But SF actually
Speaker 1: just didn't resonate with me. And the company that I
Speaker 1: worked for it was, you know, it was in software.
Speaker 1: We didn't have the same sort of energy and vision
Speaker 1: that I was used to in New York, and that
Speaker 1: really forced me to go inwards. So I picked up
Speaker 1: the power of now at Cartole. Oh right, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was like my radical awakening moment. I recognized that I
Speaker 1: was constantly thinking about the past or the future. I
Speaker 1: was never in the present. Moment, I started to really
Speaker 1: tune into my body as the measurement of what was
Speaker 1: going to bring me joy and fulfillment and everything in
Speaker 1: my body, and my intuition was telling me, just go
Speaker 1: to Bali. Just book a one way ticket to Bali.
Speaker 1: And so that was my first time not listening to
Speaker 1: my logical mind and listening to my body and booking
Speaker 1: that flight.
Speaker 2: Were you going there just to get away in a
Speaker 2: vacation or were you going there to do coursework?
Speaker 3: Because you do.
Speaker 2: Talk about discovering other times of breath work talk a
Speaker 2: bit about your unveiling, your discovery, your self awareness and
Speaker 2: what that process was.
Speaker 1: So I knew in my intuition that I was just
Speaker 1: supposed to book a one way ticket. I had no
Speaker 1: idea how I was going to quit my job or
Speaker 1: pay for my rent, or how I was going to
Speaker 1: financially support myself. But I knew that it felt really
Speaker 1: good in my body to book a one way flight.
Speaker 1: So I did that first, and then I started to
Speaker 1: explore different retreat options, and there was one that was
Speaker 1: a seven day breathwork retreat, and she used verbiage that
Speaker 1: was very similar to Eckhart, and I just resonated with it,
Speaker 1: and I was very curious about it. I had no
Speaker 1: idea what breathwork was. I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be like a meditation or a yoga retreat. And boy
Speaker 1: was I wrong. It was extremely intense, very similar to
Speaker 1: what you experienced with rebirthing. But we were going very
Speaker 1: deep into my subconscious mind. I was accessing childhood memories
Speaker 1: and just emotions that had been suppressed for decades. I
Speaker 1: was getting a lot of visions, a lot of insights,
Speaker 1: a lot of messages. I was convulsing on the floor
Speaker 1: and shaking and crying.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And it was a project. So it was seven days
Speaker 1: just going deep on the inner work and really healing
Speaker 1: on a cellular and subconscious level. And when I came
Speaker 1: out of those seven days, I just wasn't the same person.
Speaker 1: It was so cathartic and yeah, just so rejuvenating. And
Speaker 1: then I was really fascinated by breathwork and that's what
Speaker 1: set me off on a journey to really study it,
Speaker 1: to research it, and to go to every workshop and
Speaker 1: training that I could find.
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't just quit corporate life. You must have
Speaker 2: transitioned slowly.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for you. You may have
Speaker 2: just said I'm done and said gave you your notice, But
Speaker 2: I don't know. If that's likely or not. Talk about
Speaker 2: the transition and also within that, where did you find
Speaker 2: your purpose, because this is a part of your book
Speaker 2: is to go in to clear the noise and then
Speaker 2: to a sense of what you want to do in
Speaker 2: this life.
Speaker 1: So two different things when it comes to the transition.
Speaker 1: You know, initially I was like, Okay, I'm gonna quit
Speaker 1: my job on this date. I'm going to collect the
Speaker 1: money that I have up until the flight, and that
Speaker 1: was sort of my plan. And then, as the universe
Speaker 1: would have it, the startup that I was working for
Speaker 1: decided to downsize about a week before my trip, and
Speaker 1: they actually ended up giving me a month severance. Oh
Speaker 1: so that was that was my first layup from the universe.
Speaker 1: And then of course somebody also reached out to me
Speaker 1: on Airbnb and asked if they could rent out my
Speaker 1: place for two months. So I was like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is definitely a sign that I'm supposed to go to Bali,
Speaker 1: and I just figured that one month after that trip
Speaker 1: I would go back into marketing and advertising. I just
Speaker 1: assumed that I'll take a couple weeks off to go
Speaker 1: do this breathwork retreat, and when I come back I'll
Speaker 1: go back into the grind, but my intuition just kept
Speaker 1: telling me to continue to travel and continue to expel,
Speaker 1: and I ended up going to India and Peru and Tiling,
Speaker 1: and I tried all of these different modalities, and honestly,
Speaker 1: the transition from corporate didn't happen logically, and it didn't
Speaker 1: happen with sort of the awareness that that's how the
Speaker 1: journey was going to go down. I was constantly battling
Speaker 1: these inner thoughts that I had to go back to work.
Speaker 1: And it was about several months of a dance of
Speaker 1: me saying, Okay, I'll go to India, but then I'll
Speaker 1: start applying for jobs again. Okay, I'll do Peru, but
Speaker 1: then I need to go back into marketing, And my
Speaker 1: intuition just kept pushing me to heal and to study
Speaker 1: and to discover. And then eventually I got the calling
Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to coach breath Work, and I thought,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like this is a big transition into
Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and also an ego death because I was used to,
Speaker 1: you know, status and significance from these titles and I
Speaker 1: didn't really know how it was going to monetize my
Speaker 1: own breathwork journey. But I just kept breathing, and I
Speaker 1: kept getting answers and insights and clarity, and eventually figured
Speaker 1: out how to start to build my brand and my
Speaker 1: coaching offers, and it ended up being extremely successful. In
Speaker 1: my first year, I ended up making back my marketing
Speaker 1: salary and then more than doubling it my second year.
Speaker 1: So it was really just continuing to tap into the
Speaker 1: breath work and staying present and taking those intuitive actions.
Speaker 2: So it sounds to me like you you line up
Speaker 2: all the goals, all the systems and put them in
Speaker 2: place too in it so you didn't have to really
Speaker 2: go back to the corporate world right away.
Speaker 3: You were able to.
Speaker 2: I mean, did you have to do Did you go
Speaker 2: back at all during this You didn't. That is so
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a blessing right there.
Speaker 1: Let's you know, it absolutely is. But it also took
Speaker 1: a lot of courage because everything in my ego was
Speaker 1: like go back for a secure paycheck. You need that
Speaker 1: financial stability and pay the bonuses. So I definitely think
Speaker 1: that that was the toughest part of the journey, was
Speaker 1: just the battles of my financial beliefs and having to
Speaker 1: clear that, and the reason I was able to have
Speaker 1: that sort of strength to keep going was because breathwork
Speaker 1: became my purpose. It wanted to get really loud and
Speaker 1: really clear that I was supposed to bring this modality
Speaker 1: to the world in a more efficient and modern way
Speaker 1: to help people also heal and get into alignment with
Speaker 1: their purpose. So when the calling feels that strong, it
Speaker 1: gives you a lot of strength and courage to keep
Speaker 1: going on the path.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's a wonderful story, but there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people going, I can't do that, I can't
Speaker 2: quit my job, I'm making six figures, I'm in the
Speaker 2: corporate world, or I have a family defeat da da
Speaker 2: da da da.
Speaker 3: How do we use our intuition to.
Speaker 2: Really guide us when we're in that process, because that's
Speaker 2: I mean, you're describing things that are scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally understand that, And honestly, that's why I
Speaker 1: wrote the book and also why I created Master g
Speaker 1: app because I know how much fear and doubt and
Speaker 1: subconscious blocks and just psychological behavior patterns come up in
Speaker 1: that transition. So for me, it's not a one size
Speaker 1: fits all. My story was my journey, but for other people.
Speaker 1: They might start working on that side hustle. They might
Speaker 1: start building that audience while they're getting the secure paycheck,
Speaker 1: or they might feel really strongly in their bones it's
Speaker 1: not in alignment. They need to completely free up their
Speaker 1: energy and go all in on the thing that they love.
Speaker 1: So what I recommend everyone do is do breathwork hypno
Speaker 1: breathwork specifically every single morning so that you are in
Speaker 1: your clearest state. And then the last vocal cue in
Speaker 1: every single one of our sessions is what's your one
Speaker 1: next intuitive action step. Because to truly make that transition
Speaker 1: and be successful at it, you have to be a
Speaker 1: co creator of your experience, and that requires execution. You
Speaker 1: can't just have whimsical dreams and feel you know, peace
Speaker 1: in the twenty minutes that you're breathing. You actually have
Speaker 1: to go out into the real world day to day
Speaker 1: and take action. And those action steps are reach buck
Speaker 1: out to your boss or your HR department and ask
Speaker 1: to bring this wholeness modality to their staff. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes that's the way that you start to get your
Speaker 1: coaching business off the ground. My first clients were guys
Speaker 1: that dated me and were like, Wow, what happened to you.
Speaker 1: I want that.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's so hilarious.
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the other breath works
Speaker 2: that are out out there. I've had people talk about
Speaker 2: holo traffic, which has been around for a long time.
Speaker 2: Then I mentioned rebirthing, which is it's it's an unveiling
Speaker 2: of your inner dimensions, but it's it seems challenging at times.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're I was doing it in a closed
Speaker 2: room with a few people and you literally pass out
Speaker 2: sometimes because you're hyperventilating, Which, like, what is it about mastery,
Speaker 2: by the way, I love that name mastery?
Speaker 3: What is it about mastery that is.
Speaker 2: Unique as a standalone technique.
Speaker 1: Well, A, it's hyper efficient, it's twenty two minutes, and
Speaker 1: we blend hypnosis and visualization into our practice and that's
Speaker 1: what makes it extremely effective and very results driven. So
Speaker 1: I love holotropic breathwork. I've also done rebirthing breathwork. Those
Speaker 1: journeys can be ninety minutes, sometimes two and a half hours.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of shamanic drumming, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of vocal cues and guidance. And what I found on
Speaker 1: my journey is that people would have big cathartic releases.
Speaker 1: They would definitely feel lighter, or they would cry, they
Speaker 1: might see a memory, but they didn't know how to
Speaker 1: take that experience and actually change their life. They didn't
Speaker 1: know how to create the future version of themselves or
Speaker 1: start to change the behavior pattern. So what I found
Speaker 1: is that by incorporating hypnosis, you're giving the subconscious a
Speaker 1: focal point. You're getting to the root of a limiting belief.
Speaker 1: You're actually breathing out the suppressed emotion and expanding the
Speaker 1: mind simultaneously. And when you combine those two practices, people
Speaker 1: can see a new future. They can expand they can
Speaker 1: see themselves on this stage. They can see themselves having
Speaker 1: a success career and entrepreneurship. They can see themselves in
Speaker 1: the loving relationship, and they can feel it in their body.
Speaker 1: So they're changing their energy as well. They're creating new
Speaker 1: neural pathways, and the more that they breathe and see
Speaker 1: that image and feel the emotion, they're creating a new
Speaker 1: reality that they can step into with more confidence and
Speaker 1: more ease.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're talking about activating aspects of the unconscious
Speaker 2: in this process. Is there and we'll talk more about
Speaker 2: it in depth a little bit later. But is there
Speaker 2: a intuition that you start out with you intend to
Speaker 2: go somewhere to free up more understanding of your purpose?
Speaker 2: And also do we use that language? What is my
Speaker 2: life purpose? How do I achieve it? I'm in a
Speaker 2: place now where I can't see this, but well maybe
Speaker 2: I will later. Blah blah blah. You know, the brain
Speaker 2: goes nuts on this kind of stuff. Talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about it.
Speaker 1: So purpose is a bit of a journy. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: promise anyone that in one hypno breathwork session I can
Speaker 1: get you to your life's purpose. What requires a bit
Speaker 1: of healing of the past and also uncovering subconscious blocks
Speaker 1: that have kind of posed those limitations on you. So
Speaker 1: typically in a hypno breathwork sessions, they're thematic, they're topical,
Speaker 1: so we have different focal points. We might do a
Speaker 1: session on your mother wounds because you're carrying unconscious grief
Speaker 1: or sadness or guilt in that relationship, and once you
Speaker 1: heal that and free that up, then you'll have more
Speaker 1: clarity and creativity to go towards your purpose or that
Speaker 1: next project or your business. We might do sessions on
Speaker 1: self sabotage a session on procrastination. Whatever your pattern is
Speaker 1: that's blocking in your life. We have specific sessions tailored
Speaker 1: with vocal cues and music to that pattern. So on Masteram,
Speaker 1: we actually have eighty different sessions across topics of health,
Speaker 1: of love, of corporate decision making, thought leader inspired sessions
Speaker 1: so that people can find whatever they need that day,
Speaker 1: read out the block, get their clear action step and
Speaker 1: take that intuitive action.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I should mention to our listeners that you have developed
Speaker 2: an app and I guess it goes on iPhone or Android. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go through both of them.
Speaker 3: Are you saying that these.
Speaker 2: Techniques, these practices that are loaded on this app and
Speaker 2: that you just go through one through eighty or whatever
Speaker 2: you just were suggesting, or is there a guide to
Speaker 2: teach you or somebody that you work with in the
Speaker 2: very beginning.
Speaker 1: So there's twenty coaches who have helped me create these
Speaker 1: audio sessions on the app, and basically you go in
Speaker 1: and you'll be prompted with a question, how are you
Speaker 1: feeling today? What is it that you want to focus on?
Speaker 1: And then we'll recommend three different sessions based on your
Speaker 1: intention for that day. So you might say I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like a five. I want to get more clarity in work.
Speaker 1: And we'll be like, great, here's a session on focus,
Speaker 1: here's a session on flow state, and here's a session
Speaker 1: peak performance. And then go and choose that session that day,
Speaker 1: and as soon as you breath towards the end, it says,
Speaker 1: what's your next intuitive action step? Then you get a
Speaker 1: little journal prompt you put that in there, do you
Speaker 1: type it in? And then as soon as you complete
Speaker 1: that action step, you get your badge for the day.
Speaker 1: So it's a digital process to help people integrate and
Speaker 1: create that habit and also have accountability.
Speaker 3: That's very forward thinking.
Speaker 2: I really like that because I don't think I've heard
Speaker 2: of anyone creating an app for.
Speaker 3: What you call flow state.
Speaker 2: What are you hoping that the user is going to
Speaker 2: gain when they begin using the tool? In other words,
Speaker 2: you made some early points that I think need to
Speaker 2: be addressed. Is like, you don't just change your life
Speaker 2: right away. I mean, you could have a gig. And
Speaker 2: that's how I started my podcast. I had clients that
Speaker 2: wanted to invest in podcasting, so I learned all about it,
Speaker 2: launch their sites, and then through their through the trials
Speaker 2: and tribulations of their work. I launch my own. How
Speaker 2: do you help people find what you believe is their purpose?
Speaker 1: So purpose can be complex, but there actually is sort
Speaker 1: of a chronological and linear and tangible journey that I
Speaker 1: take people through, and it's orchestrated the exact same way
Speaker 1: as the book is. It's in three parts. Part once,
Speaker 1: you have to heal the past, So that's about going
Speaker 1: into your inner child. That's about reflecting on your relationship
Speaker 1: to your mother and also your father and seeing how
Speaker 1: their worldview shaped your belief in yourself and shaped your behaviors.
Speaker 1: So once we sort of clear out any gunk or
Speaker 1: repressed emotion there, then we start to create new connections.
Speaker 1: We start to connect the dots between your skills, your experiences,
Speaker 1: the occupations that you've chosen, what people tell you that
Speaker 1: you're naturally gifted at, what you wanted to be when
Speaker 1: you were younger. There's a series of where we start
Speaker 1: to activate your gifts, your talents, and what you are
Speaker 1: passionate about. Once we start to find those intersections, we
Speaker 1: will be all. We'll clear out the financial blocks and
Speaker 1: will as soon as you get this creative surgeony, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is what I'm meant to do
Speaker 1: in the world. You know, the next day the financial
Speaker 1: fears will kick in and that's what that's why we
Speaker 1: have to do this breathwork.
Speaker 2: Can glad you're mentioning that, because that's a huge was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to be a painter.
Speaker 3: Years and you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 2: with my guests today Francesca Sima discussing her new book
Speaker 2: Unlock Your Purpose. We'll rejoin you shortly. My guest today
Speaker 2: is Francisca Simpma, who's written a new book called Unblock
Speaker 2: Your Purpose, breath Work, Intuition and Flow State is. She's
Speaker 2: describing the techniques and the results of her therapeutic approach
Speaker 2: to wellness.
Speaker 1: Listen, I created this app because it's what I use
Speaker 1: every single day up and I this morning. You know,
Speaker 1: I use it every single day because even as an
Speaker 1: entrepreneur who has had early success, I still have my fears,
Speaker 1: I still have my doubts, I still have my conditioning,
Speaker 1: my blocks, and this is what I need to get
Speaker 1: into the higher state of the future version that I
Speaker 1: want to be and create from that place. So once
Speaker 1: we sort of connect your creative skills and we breathe
Speaker 1: out money blocks, and we breathe out you know, relationship
Speaker 1: blocks that are coming up in your life, then we
Speaker 1: turn it outward. Because the key to purpose is truly
Speaker 1: being of service. And when you can figure out who
Speaker 1: it is that you're meant to serve and how you
Speaker 1: contribute to something greater than yourself, then your life starts
Speaker 1: to take on a completely new meaning and you start
Speaker 1: to feel real internal peace and fulfillment.
Speaker 2: So run me through the process. You do one of
Speaker 2: the app meditations and the breath work, you're finished. Are
Speaker 2: you asking the person to write down impressions? Are you
Speaker 2: having them get a sense of the feeling? How are
Speaker 2: you reinforcing the practice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cliff, I'm loving all of your questions right now
Speaker 1: because it's validating a lot of my process.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've been doing I've been well. Any hell, I
Speaker 2: love what you're doing, and so I want to help you.
Speaker 2: And then by your clarity, the listener will go, oh, yeakay,
Speaker 2: Francesca is meaning this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Okay, so I believe that
Speaker 1: I've thought of this. So every chapter in my book,
Speaker 1: un Block your Purpose, gives you context, it gives you
Speaker 1: psychological principles, and also personal stories of people who have
Speaker 1: healed those milestones or made those creative connections. And then
Speaker 1: at the end of each chapter, we have corresponding journal
Speaker 1: questions and then we have many hypno breathwork sessions so
Speaker 1: that you can get to those insights, those revelations, that
Speaker 1: healing and that next action step. So Mastery app actually
Speaker 1: has an entire section that is dedicated to the book
Speaker 1: that corresponds with each chapter. So you read about it,
Speaker 1: you write your own reflections, then you it and then
Speaker 1: you take action. That's sort of the process. And we
Speaker 1: created those two things complementary so that people could have
Speaker 1: the full experience to start to heal and discover their purpose.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love it, you just give it to us.
Speaker 2: In the one two three, here's the issue. If somebody
Speaker 2: is wanting to make a change in their life, if
Speaker 2: they know that they're not in a career path that
Speaker 2: is helpful. If they have a sense of where they
Speaker 2: want to go, Are there counselors, Are there people on
Speaker 2: your team that they can reflect with, because Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: if they're leaving a job.
Speaker 3: If I mean this is not just job.
Speaker 2: This could be a relationship, this could be a lifestyle,
Speaker 2: this could be a lot of different Yeah, paths, talk
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: I've got this one too, Cliff. All right, So I
Speaker 1: also have my twelve week course un Block Your Purpose
Speaker 1: that is guided by one of my master coaches. So
Speaker 1: these are the deeper sessions. These are the ones that
Speaker 1: I went through when I needed support and I needed
Speaker 1: guidance with So if you need something more deep, that
Speaker 1: is like truly healing some of the core wounds in
Speaker 1: your life, then I recommend that you do this with
Speaker 1: the facilitator. So there's two options. Mastery does have one
Speaker 1: on one options for coaches. You can hire a coach
Speaker 1: for six months and go through this with that sort
Speaker 1: of support. On Mastery App, we have a live chat
Speaker 1: feature so if you are going through something, they can
Speaker 1: also provide guidance or set you up with a coach.
Speaker 1: And then come January, I'm launching another virtual live session
Speaker 1: of the full course that people can breathe in community.
Speaker 1: They can share their reflections on Zoom every week together,
Speaker 1: they can get a coach to give them more one
Speaker 1: on one time, and then we have a live event
Speaker 1: happening in April where they're going to be breathing with
Speaker 1: me in person and also getting my intuitive coaching and
Speaker 1: guidance as well.
Speaker 2: Cool talk about the life path or life purpose as
Speaker 2: you call it, Why do we need to seek a
Speaker 2: more folk fulfilling life path? I mean, why should we care?
Speaker 1: I think for two reasons that our top of mind,
Speaker 1: which is one mental health, is severely declining, and I
Speaker 1: think especially post pandemic, it's become so much more visible
Speaker 1: and top of mind for people about how unfulfilled they
Speaker 1: truly are and how insatiable some of us are. And
Speaker 1: so having something that you love to do, that you
Speaker 1: love to wake up every single day, it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like work. You're creating, you're giving your gifts. That just
Speaker 1: creates such a more peaceful and beautiful life. I think
Speaker 1: the other part is we're so focused on our own
Speaker 1: internal experience and we turn it outwards when we look
Speaker 1: at the obstacles we've overcome, when we look at the
Speaker 1: skills and the experiences that we've accumulated, and when we're
Speaker 1: able to share that knowledge to help someone else. I've
Speaker 1: never tapped into a feeling like that before, for you know,
Speaker 1: I've met a lot of milestones. I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of goals. I've had a lot of achievements and accomplishments
Speaker 1: in my life, and the joy's always been fleeting. I
Speaker 1: go on this trip, I'm ready for the next trip.
Speaker 1: I date this guy, I want the next guy. It's
Speaker 1: like it's constantly this hamster wheel of chasing fun and
Speaker 1: happiness and joy. But when I'm giving, when I see
Speaker 1: my students and my clients say, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: I just have this clarity. I know exactly what I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I haven't felt this love in decades.
Speaker 1: That is an indescribable feeling to me, and that feeling
Speaker 1: actually sticks. So I just think that we're all deserving
Speaker 1: of a life that we love. I think every single
Speaker 1: human on this planet is capable of creating a life
Speaker 1: that they love. It just takes a little bit of
Speaker 1: healing and connecting the dots of the things that you love,
Speaker 1: and then having the courage to take that action on
Speaker 1: a daily basis.
Speaker 2: In your experience, what would you say is the percentage
Speaker 2: of people who are doing what their life purpose is
Speaker 2: versus those who are stuck in a job or in
Speaker 2: a lifestyle that is.
Speaker 3: Manufacturer.
Speaker 2: Perhaps the parents suggested it and they went through life
Speaker 2: following their parents' guidance. I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: do this, by the way. Yes I'll go to school, Yes,
Speaker 2: mom and dad, I'll be a doctor. Yes, mom and dad,
Speaker 2: I'll get this kind of job. And they're miserable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but talk a bit about in your experience now since
Speaker 2: you've launched Mastery, people who are in the right place.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty depressing statistic. If you're going
Speaker 1: to make me put a number on it, the amount
Speaker 1: of people who are actually living their life purpose, I
Speaker 1: would say less than ten percent. But the really important
Speaker 1: piece to that is that nothing is wasted. What you're
Speaker 1: doing right now, the occupation that you've chosen, there's a
Speaker 1: reason for that. So I don't want anyone to feel
Speaker 1: down on themselves right now and to feel like they've
Speaker 1: lost time, because that's not true either. Whatever job you've
Speaker 1: chosen right now has given you a set of skills,
Speaker 1: has given you relationships, has given you a network, has
Speaker 1: given you experience, and a lot of that is going
Speaker 1: to be transferable, and a lot of that also has
Speaker 1: clues into the next level or the next path that
Speaker 1: you're meant to pursue. I had a long career in
Speaker 1: advertising and marketing, and none of that has been wasted.
Speaker 1: I used all of that knowledge to build my personal brand.
Speaker 1: I've used all of that to build the brand for Mastery,
Speaker 1: and all of those colleagues, a lot of them have
Speaker 1: started my breathwork journey with me, coming to my community classes.
Speaker 1: A lot of those people have become investors in my company.
Speaker 1: So nothing is wasted where you are now, but there's
Speaker 1: just an opportunity for you to find more fulfillment in
Speaker 1: what you do next.
Speaker 3: I like that. That's great.
Speaker 2: You haven't talked about the higher self or the soul
Speaker 2: and how they influence our decision making. Will you say
Speaker 2: that through your breath work technique that you're having more
Speaker 2: of communication with this higher level of your consciousness, which
Speaker 2: I call either the higher self or the soul?
Speaker 1: Great question. Yeah, breath is that direct connection to the
Speaker 1: higher version of yourself? So what is happening physiologically is
Speaker 1: you're changing the balance of oxygen and carbon dioxide in
Speaker 1: your body. What that does is it starts to quiet
Speaker 1: down the default mode network or what I consider the ego,
Speaker 1: that's the really loud mental chatter. That's the protective mechanisms,
Speaker 1: that's the analytical mind. And you start to expand your
Speaker 1: consciousness and you activate different regions of the brain. You
Speaker 1: go into your subconscious, and your subconscious is the storehouse.
Speaker 1: That's where all of your memories, everything that's inspired you,
Speaker 1: your beliefs, your values, your emotions, everything lives in your subconscious.
Speaker 1: So breath takes you to this more expansive place where
Speaker 1: you have more options, you have more possibilities, you have
Speaker 1: more visions, you have more downloads. And the interesting thing
Speaker 1: that starts to happen is when we play the music
Speaker 1: and when we say the right cues. You know, if
Speaker 1: I said to you Cliff in a song for you know,
Speaker 1: I want you to see the highest version of your life.
Speaker 1: I want you to see your dream home. I want
Speaker 1: you to see the travel, I want you to see
Speaker 1: your family, you will all of a sudden get these pictures.
Speaker 1: And the really cool thing is I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a really beautiful distinction between visualization and visioning because visualization
Speaker 1: we sort of curate that image. And again, when you're
Speaker 1: breathing and you're visualizing, the defenses and the doubt and
Speaker 1: what you can create are down and then you have
Speaker 1: this opportunity to see something bigger. But when you're visioning,
Speaker 1: that's a download from the universe. That's just like this
Speaker 1: picture that gets dropped down and you're like, oh, whoa,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was the north Star. And now
Speaker 1: I have had this clarity of where I'm going. I
Speaker 1: can give you a specific example to help paint that picture.
Speaker 1: You know, when I started breathwork coaching, I've always been
Speaker 1: pretty ambitious, so I was like, all right, if I'm
Speaker 1: going to become a breathwork coach, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: on Goop. I'm going to do sessions for Gwyneth Paltrow,
Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon, Jenna and I'm going to go to this
Speaker 1: is like going to be my clients. Hell and I
Speaker 1: would do breathwork and it was like, no, You're going
Speaker 1: on a book tour, and I was like, whoa, I'm
Speaker 1: an author. So that was a vision that I got
Speaker 1: from breathwork before I really started writing or I even
Speaker 1: had plans to put a book out into the world.
Speaker 1: That vision came through and then I knew exactly where
Speaker 1: I was going that I wasn't meant to be the
Speaker 1: you know, the celebrity breathwork coach. I was actually meant
Speaker 1: to write a book.
Speaker 2: I think we all aspire for the celebrity support and acknowledgment,
Speaker 2: but that's not always realistic.
Speaker 3: I think. Is what you're.
Speaker 1: Suggesting it manifesting from your ego versus your soul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, very good talk about the dynamics of breath
Speaker 2: work and what happens when we breathe in a certain manner.
Speaker 2: What is access number one, what is cleared number two
Speaker 2: and number three? How it.
Speaker 3: Sustains you.
Speaker 1: So breathwork always finds the highest emotional charge, and that's
Speaker 1: a little terrifying because you can't hide from the breath.
Speaker 1: So I have a lot of clients come in and
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, I'm really frustrated with my wife today.
Speaker 1: She really triggered me. And then we'll go into breathwork
Speaker 1: and they'll see the seven year old boy whose mom
Speaker 1: is reprimanding him and feels alone. You know. So it
Speaker 1: always finds the highest emotional charge. Or I'll have clients
Speaker 1: that are like, you know, I'm really pissed off at
Speaker 1: my boss, and then they'll see infidelity and their breath
Speaker 1: work and they're actually feeling ashamed of themselves. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: breath always finds what is lingering most loud in your body,
Speaker 1: that's blocking your energy. So that is something that's always
Speaker 1: fascinated me, and even as someone who thought I was
Speaker 1: extremely self aware, even recently, I'll share a personal story
Speaker 1: with you, Cliff. You know, I came off a week
Speaker 1: of a grind on this book launch. You know, I
Speaker 1: was in like seven cities in two weeks. I was
Speaker 1: extremely exhausted by the time I got home, and I
Speaker 1: was convinced that my partner was not being supportive enough,
Speaker 1: and I was so mad at him. I was like,
Speaker 1: can't you have more patience with me? Couldn't you just
Speaker 1: have like dinner ready? Like don't you know I need sleep? Like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what couldn't he be so not understanding
Speaker 1: of my schedule? Like what is his problem? I was
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure that he was the problem. I
Speaker 1: went into breathwork the next morning and I saw and
Speaker 1: I was bawling because this reflection and revelation was so
Speaker 1: enlightening to me. But I was like, I'm the problem.
Speaker 1: I have completely deprioritized my relationship because of this book launch.
Speaker 1: I have put him on the back burner, I have
Speaker 1: not showed up, and now I'm expecting more from him,
Speaker 1: but I'm giving less. And I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I'm in the wrong. And I couldn't believe it, Cliff,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe I was the one in the flown.
Speaker 1: That's what breath does is it gets to the truth.
Speaker 1: It gets to your most authentic truth, and you can
Speaker 1: never escape the real emotion that's really residing in your body.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I just really love about it,
Speaker 1: and that's why I also think that you have to
Speaker 1: do it consistently because even somebody who's been breathing every
Speaker 1: day for five years, I'm still coming up against areas
Speaker 1: where I'm wrong and my conscious mind is, you know,
Speaker 1: disconnected to my subconscious motivations. So while you can definitely
Speaker 1: have cathartic releases that are life changing in one session,
Speaker 1: which I've had several of those, and they've changed a
Speaker 1: behavior pattern from one trigger being dissolved or one revelation
Speaker 1: being just completely exposed from the route, I have to
Speaker 1: do this consistently, which is why I built the app,
Speaker 1: because I know we all need to do this consistently
Speaker 1: because there's been too much conditioning. There's been too many
Speaker 1: stories or expectations from our parents or society or brainwashing
Speaker 1: that we have to do this work every single morning,
Speaker 1: every single day. Take action from that place in order
Speaker 1: for the results to really last.
Speaker 2: Now, you just said something that I was going to
Speaker 2: ask you, and that is that this is a daily
Speaker 2: practice that you're esting. You cannot skip a day, a
Speaker 2: week or whatever and.
Speaker 3: Come back to it.
Speaker 1: It's like working out, you know. I say this to
Speaker 1: my athletes all the time. I'm like, would you work
Speaker 1: out one time and expect to be physically fit? Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are muscles that you have to exercise, and we're
Speaker 1: developing them and we're building them. We're building our intuition,
Speaker 1: we're building our self trust, we're building our self worth.
Speaker 1: So twenty minutes every morning. I've made it as short
Speaker 1: as I possibly can, and I recommend doing it first
Speaker 1: thing when you wake up.
Speaker 3: It sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: I want to go over some points that you make
Speaker 2: in your book, including unblocking, higher levels of consciousness, enhancing clarity, cognition.
Speaker 2: That's a huge, huge area. Cognition is in the in
Speaker 2: our literature right now because people are having declines of
Speaker 2: cognition as we age, and I think listening to the
Speaker 2: you and the work that I understand breath work probably
Speaker 2: would enhance that. But talk about the higher levels of consciousness.
Speaker 3: What are you referring to when you're doing this breath work.
Speaker 1: So you're oxygenating your body, You're basically breathing new life
Speaker 1: into your brain. And when we talk about flow states,
Speaker 1: that's optimal consciousness. That's when things are effortlessly flowing. You're
Speaker 1: intrinsically motivated, you feel challenged, but you feel productive, but
Speaker 1: you're also in alignment. It's this perfect sweet spot. So
Speaker 1: what I discovered is when I needed to monetize as
Speaker 1: a breathwork coach, I treated it like an ad exac
Speaker 1: and I created an entire war room in my bedroom.
Speaker 1: I had physiological benefits, psychological benefits, spiritual benefits, media channels,
Speaker 1: content pillars, partnership strategies. All this was up on a
Speaker 1: wall and then I would breathe, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: my brain and the higher states of consciousness would make
Speaker 1: new innovative connections that I didn't logically see. So it
Speaker 1: was reach out to this former employee, offer this benefit
Speaker 1: in this format and make a video about it, and
Speaker 1: then send it in your email newsletter and it would
Speaker 1: just get like a mind map. It would connect all
Speaker 1: of these dots every single morning, and I would get
Speaker 1: marketing strategies and I would get ideas for business. So
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, could I bring this to corporate?
Speaker 1: Can I bring this to different industries and have their
Speaker 1: teams focus on a vision, on a mission, on a project,
Speaker 1: on a concept, and have everyone get into a collective
Speaker 1: flow state. Feel rejuvenized, feel re energized, feel motivated, see
Speaker 1: their part in the team dynamic. And it happened every
Speaker 1: single time I did a session for three hundred employees
Speaker 1: at Deloitte, I said, how are you guys feeling? Put
Speaker 1: into the chat box? You know they were tired, stressed, drained, exhausted,
Speaker 1: Da da da da. Twenty minutes later, inspired, rejuvenated, light clear.
Speaker 1: Can we please do this every week? Amazing reflesh twenty
Speaker 1: minutes and I had them focus on specific tasks and
Speaker 1: then I said, what's your next action step? And every
Speaker 1: employee said, delegate this set a meeting with my manager,
Speaker 1: do the brainstorm, get this off my to do list.
Speaker 1: They had clarity, they had creativity, their energy was rejuvenated,
Speaker 1: and I just discovered this through my own self experimentation
Speaker 1: that we could get into these flow states. So what
Speaker 1: ended up happening was I did every every single day.
Speaker 1: You know, again, we talked about the transition from corporate
Speaker 1: to entrepreneurship is really hard, and it's not just that
Speaker 1: the day that you make the leap, all of those
Speaker 1: fears and doubts go out the window. I still get
Speaker 1: them in mastery, like holy shit, how am I going
Speaker 1: to do this? And then I just breathe, I connect
Speaker 1: back to the vision, I get my next action step,
Speaker 1: and I keep going. So the cognition really what ends
Speaker 1: up happening is you get all these ideas and once
Speaker 1: you execute on them, it also built your confidence. Now
Speaker 1: you're in integrity with yourself and every day you just
Speaker 1: keep getting sharper. You're clearer, your problem solving, your articulation,
Speaker 1: your retention, your decision making. Everything is happening at heightened
Speaker 1: speeds and heightened focused. So it triggers me so much
Speaker 1: when people are like, I don't have twenty minutes to breathe,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, twenty minutes to not breathe. I
Speaker 1: can write the email, do that website, send out the presentation,
Speaker 1: do the pitch deck in a quarter of the time
Speaker 1: because my mom is so clear.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 2: our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly
Speaker 2: with my guest today, Francesca Simpma discussing her newest book,
Speaker 2: Unblock Your Purpose.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: My guest today is Francesca Simmashi has written a new
Speaker 2: book on breath work called Unlock Your Purpose, and we're
Speaker 2: hearing about the techniques that are used to draw on
Speaker 2: a higher level of consciousness, also cognition and the ability
Speaker 2: to function in a higher state. I think one thing
Speaker 2: that we also need to let people know, and I'd
Speaker 2: like to hear from you real quickly on this is
Speaker 2: the fact that you don't need to leave your job
Speaker 2: to become an entrepreneur. You are being enhanced, is what
Speaker 2: it sounds like you're suggesting, and these enhancements can make
Speaker 2: you better at your job. Job right, talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about not necessarily bolting from your job, but perhaps
Speaker 2: becoming the different person through this breath work.
Speaker 1: I want to be really clear that I do not
Speaker 1: recommend entrepreneurship and quitting corporate for everyone at all. Entrepreneurship
Speaker 1: has its hardships, just like corporate environments do. And some
Speaker 1: people like having systems and processes and working with teams
Speaker 1: that have already been developed, and I'm all for that,
Speaker 1: But breathwork makes everyone better because it makes you more
Speaker 1: attuned to yourself. You're exhaling out stress, You're exhaling out anxiety.
Speaker 1: You're exhaling out any anxious, any tension, any repressed sadness
Speaker 1: or grief or guilt or shame that's living in your body.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening on a physiological level when you're breathing
Speaker 1: into your parasympathetic nervous system. And then with the hypnotic
Speaker 1: vocal cues, we're giving you focus. See the project, see
Speaker 1: the pitch, see the email, see the campaign, see the sale.
Speaker 1: Then and you're having that visualization of Okay, it's closing.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the outcome that I want. I'm hitting that goal.
Speaker 1: What does that feel like? What does that look like?
Speaker 1: And what is that version of you do next? How
Speaker 1: do you show up in the room, how do you
Speaker 1: walk in the room. What's your tone, what's your energy?
Speaker 1: What's your demeanor? What are the words that you say?
Speaker 1: What's the message that's going to be received, and now
Speaker 1: you're doing everything on a completely different level and your
Speaker 1: energy is felt and your words are felt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: I think the one area and just talk briefly about
Speaker 2: this because this comes up a lot in corporate world.
Speaker 2: Toxic toxic environments, a toxic boss, a toxic theme, a
Speaker 2: toxic group. I mean when I work for PayPal, we
Speaker 2: had not only individuals who were toxic, but we had
Speaker 2: groups that were formed and one of the leaders would
Speaker 2: be toxic and kind of influence everybody. You can't get
Speaker 2: away from that. But if you are aware of this toxicity,
Speaker 2: you can compromise it and you can perhaps work around it,
Speaker 2: and then ultimately, if it continues, we want to get
Speaker 2: the hell out of there. But talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about that. That's a huge, big problem in corporate life.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. And it's reminding me
Speaker 1: of this very high up CFO that I did a
Speaker 1: session on and I remember him coming out of the
Speaker 1: session and it was so shocking. He just said, Oh,
Speaker 1: I just realized why I'm such an asshole to my team.
Speaker 1: It's because I hate my mother.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, We're projecting a lot of your
Speaker 1: own personal stuff onto your team. So the other really
Speaker 1: cool advantage of breath work is because it gets you
Speaker 1: out of your own head and it gets you out
Speaker 1: of your own vantage point, you actually start to have
Speaker 1: compassion for other people around you. So we can do
Speaker 1: this in a multitude of ways. I can say, Cliff,
Speaker 1: I want you to close your eyes, I want you
Speaker 1: to breathe, and I want you to see your partner,
Speaker 1: I want you to see your children, I want you
Speaker 1: to see you colleague, and all of a sudden, defenses
Speaker 1: are down and you're like, whoa, they're just also really hurt.
Speaker 1: They're not feeling heard, they're feeling frustrated. You know, you'll
Speaker 1: immediately see that this person's not just out to get you.
Speaker 1: You don't need to take it personally. They're not just
Speaker 1: an idiot. You're actually breathing and you're seeing a completely
Speaker 1: different perspective. And you can do the same thing with teams.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest disconnect in these toxic environments is,
Speaker 1: you know, upper management feels a lot of pressure. They're
Speaker 1: probably frustrated because they feel like they're working, you know,
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, and maybe other people aren't living
Speaker 1: up to that, and then a lot of employees are
Speaker 1: frustrated because upper management has absolutely no respect for their
Speaker 1: work life balance, and so all these two places are
Speaker 1: at contention with each other. But there's a way for
Speaker 1: us to a breathe out our expectations and our projections,
Speaker 1: and then b also just have more clarity so that
Speaker 1: we are performing at a higher level and we are
Speaker 1: contributing to the team and being collaborative and being productive.
Speaker 1: So it's instead of a mixed bag, it's saying, you know,
Speaker 1: we do sessions on compassion empathy, and then we do
Speaker 1: on peak performance and focus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. Let's go through a couple of more of
Speaker 2: these points that you highlight in your book, and then
Speaker 2: we want to get into some case studies of some
Speaker 2: of your clients and people who have got through the program.
Speaker 2: The other one is enhance clarity. How do we get
Speaker 2: enhanced clarity? Which is a good one because if you're
Speaker 2: bogged down with a problem and you're not able to
Speaker 2: get through it, enhance clarity will chop away at.
Speaker 3: That and you'll get hopefully the results the answers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the enhanced clarity is just the pumping of
Speaker 1: the breath is again, it's bringing more oxygen into your body.
Speaker 1: It's quieting down the deep the prefrontal cortex and analytical mind.
Speaker 1: It's giving you more options, it's giving you more creativity,
Speaker 1: giving you more solutions. And so with the right music,
Speaker 1: with the right vocal cue, if I say, what's your
Speaker 1: next step on that project? How do you scale this podcast?
Speaker 1: Who's the person that you want to partner with? What
Speaker 1: do you need to say to them? How do you
Speaker 1: present it? What's the real that you need to create
Speaker 1: that your mind will immediately start to find solutions for
Speaker 1: that thing. And that makes you feel extremely clear, and
Speaker 1: when you take extion on that, it also makes you
Speaker 1: extremely confident.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that gets into our next one, which is cognition,
Speaker 2: and that has to do also with brain function, brain
Speaker 2: brain wellness, which we're not talking about, but I think
Speaker 2: in many ways bringing in oxygen, oxygengating the brain helps
Speaker 2: in that area.
Speaker 1: Talk about cognition, Yeah, it's the same thing as the clarity,
Speaker 1: But the other part to the cognition too, is you're
Speaker 1: breathing out all these emotions that are creating energy blockages
Speaker 1: in your body. When you're holding onto anger from twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. You are not your clearest, You are not
Speaker 1: functioning at your optimal performance. So as you get triggered
Speaker 1: throughout the day because someone cuts you off in traffic,
Speaker 1: or you know your partner didn't answer the phone when
Speaker 1: you called, or whatever these things are. When you breed
Speaker 1: those things out, they don't block your energy from flowing
Speaker 1: and then giving you that clarity, that cognition, that creativity,
Speaker 1: and all the brain power that can be used for
Speaker 1: things that are more productive.
Speaker 2: Have you been able to ascertain the levels of clarity
Speaker 2: and cognition in your own practice or do you actually
Speaker 2: have your students kind of look at it and do
Speaker 2: self assessment. I'm here, I need to be here, I
Speaker 2: need to be at this level. Do you do you
Speaker 2: have like a way to discover how successful the practice is.
Speaker 1: Our measurement is really through how close are you to
Speaker 1: the life that you want to create. So if I
Speaker 1: have people who are in you know, they come to
Speaker 1: me and they are completely depressed, They're miserable, they hate
Speaker 1: their jobs, they're in a relationship that they don't want
Speaker 1: to be in anymore. And then they go through my
Speaker 1: twelve week online program on block your Purpose and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they've put that job. They're now doing
Speaker 1: breastwork in a yoga studio. You know, they're dating a
Speaker 1: guy that you know actually makes them feel safe and
Speaker 1: is consistent, makes them feel loved. So that's sort of
Speaker 1: the progress that we measure it in. How much of
Speaker 1: your dream life are you creating that trip that you
Speaker 1: saw in a breathwork session? Did you book the ticket?
Speaker 1: And I get selfies from them? You know, they're like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm in Greece, just like I saw in my breathwork session.
Speaker 1: I'm hosting that street for this group. We have the
Speaker 1: intuitive actions that we kind of share with each other,
Speaker 1: and then once those intuitive actions come to life, then
Speaker 1: that's really the progress of success.
Speaker 2: But are there levels to clarity and cognition that you
Speaker 2: actually teach in this breath work.
Speaker 1: It's it can be actually more like task based or
Speaker 1: project based. So if we did a session right now,
Speaker 1: tell me something that you want to maybe grow or
Speaker 1: change in your business.
Speaker 2: More downloads, more listeners? Okay, great, is there every podcast
Speaker 2: or even Joe Rogan's going to say the same thing,
Speaker 2: I need another million?
Speaker 1: Okay, no, but that's perfect. So when you're breathing, I
Speaker 1: might cue you. You know, first, let go of any emotion,
Speaker 1: any blockages, any anxiety, any stress from the holidays, or
Speaker 1: anything that's going on with your family. Then I'll in
Speaker 1: the middle of the breathwork session, I might say, I
Speaker 1: want you to see your podcast, and then I'm going
Speaker 1: to have you connect to why why did you start
Speaker 1: the show? What is it that you want your listeners
Speaker 1: to get the most out of it? And now you're
Speaker 1: connecting to a different emotion, right, You're connecting to service.
Speaker 1: And then I might say, what are the topics that
Speaker 1: you know are most culturally relevant that people need and
Speaker 1: people want to hear. Then maybe some ideas will start
Speaker 1: to percolate, and then I'll say, who is your ideal
Speaker 1: guest on this show? Who would you like to bring
Speaker 1: on in the show? Maybe a couple of ideas will
Speaker 1: come into your mind. Next, I'm going to say, I
Speaker 1: want you to see your show having a million more downloads,
Speaker 1: a million more listeners. What does that feel like? What
Speaker 1: does that look like? Get into that emotional state, get
Speaker 1: into that energy right now? Cool? What's your next action
Speaker 1: step towards that? And your intuition? I can't do it
Speaker 1: for you. Your intuition will tell you I need to
Speaker 1: hire this person, I need to do this social media campaign.
Speaker 1: I need to get on TikTok, I need to make
Speaker 1: more video content. I need to go to in and studios.
Speaker 1: I have no idea you're into will have it, and
Speaker 1: every other podcast hosts might have a completely different answer.
Speaker 1: But those vocal cues and getting you into the emotional
Speaker 1: state and triggering your intuition is what's going to give
Speaker 1: you the clarity.
Speaker 3: I like that, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I wrote it all that down too. There's a little
Speaker 2: brief coaching session there with free Francesca's coaching. Uh, let's
Speaker 2: go to the last item, which I'm curious about. I
Speaker 2: think it kind of speaks for itself though, which is
Speaker 2: decision making. Those are that's the last area that you
Speaker 2: discussed as a benefit you talk about that is it
Speaker 2: enhanced in some way?
Speaker 1: It's clear because it's intuitive. So what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is, you know, people waste so much time and indecision.
Speaker 1: They have a problem, or they have the next step,
Speaker 1: and they have a feeling of the direction they want
Speaker 1: to go or what they want to do, but their
Speaker 1: logical will tell them all the ways will it'll negate
Speaker 1: and it'll impose fear and threat into the thing that
Speaker 1: they do, they'll get FOMO. So they oftentimes procrastinate and
Speaker 1: they waste time in this over analysis and this overthinking.
Speaker 1: But what breathwork does is it gives you that clear channel,
Speaker 1: that bridge right into your intuition. So you might say,
Speaker 1: you know, your decision coming up is do I hire
Speaker 1: this person or do I move to this platform? And
Speaker 1: I'll cue it in a breathwork session towards the end
Speaker 1: when all the emotions kind of cleared, and you'll just
Speaker 1: either get a picture, an answer, a word, something in
Speaker 1: your intuition. Something will just flash and that's how that
Speaker 1: you make the decisions moving forward. I'm the craziest. I
Speaker 1: make crazy decisions to the outside world, but they are
Speaker 1: all things that have come through in my breathwork, and
Speaker 1: I just believe them. I act on them and it's
Speaker 1: worked out.
Speaker 2: What do you call them crazy? Because there's something that
Speaker 2: in your daily life you would not initiate.
Speaker 1: They're unconventional.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll define that, okay.
Speaker 1: So when I started Mastery, we were we were going
Speaker 1: to fundraise a million dollars to start this company and
Speaker 1: to create the app and the platform. So in a
Speaker 1: typical fundraising process. And I did masterminds on fundraising and
Speaker 1: went to these founder schools and did all these things
Speaker 1: because that's the process that my linear mind told me
Speaker 1: to do. In rough work, it was like post a
Speaker 1: headshot on Instagram. Post your headshot on Instagram with a
Speaker 1: caption that says, in twenty twenty eight two, I'm coming
Speaker 1: out as a female founder of a new wellness company
Speaker 1: to raise the collective consciousness. If you want to get
Speaker 1: involved DM me. And my ego was like, whoa, I'm
Speaker 1: not putting that on Instagram. That's so what if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, Like, I don't want to put myself
Speaker 1: out there like that. My intuition, my decision, in my
Speaker 1: intuition was post it. I posted it around forty eight
Speaker 1: hours later I had the call, and I think forty
Speaker 1: eight hours after that, the first one hundred K was
Speaker 1: wired into Mastery's bank account.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you really tapped in, you know. That's so funny.
Speaker 2: It's like everything happens for a reason. It's like all
Speaker 2: the energetics are lined up, and when you sent that
Speaker 2: into the atmosphere or the the whatever reality it manifested.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's totally cool. Yeah, the books called Unlock Your Purpose.
Speaker 2: My guest today is Francesca Sima. I want to get
Speaker 2: into some case studies now at the at the end
Speaker 2: of this interview, and if you could give us obviously
Speaker 2: you're not going to name names, but if you could
Speaker 2: give us a couple of people who have perhaps we're
Speaker 2: in a certain situation and then use the breath work
Speaker 2: and now you're happy to report this or that. And
Speaker 2: I mean they all can't be Roses and spark. There
Speaker 2: could be some that are working their way up from
Speaker 2: a certain situation. But whatever you could provide to be great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the first story that comes to mind it
Speaker 1: was actually my very first Unblock your Purpose course, and
Speaker 1: I had a gentleman in there. He was about fifty
Speaker 1: six years old. He had started his own company before
Speaker 1: and actually went bankrupt, so we had a fear of
Speaker 1: entrepreneurship now from that experience, but he deeply wanted to
Speaker 1: create a legacy for his kids. So we came in
Speaker 1: thinking that we were going to heal the financial situation
Speaker 1: from his last experience and first breathwork session. Ever, he
Speaker 1: came out hysterical, shocked, you know, was crying and I said,
Speaker 1: you know what came up for you? And he said,
Speaker 1: sexual trauma from when I was five years old that
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about in five decades. Wow. And that
Speaker 1: was the block. And once that was released, and once
Speaker 1: that was healed, he got the idea for the platform
Speaker 1: that he wanted to build that was much more in
Speaker 1: alignment for him. So that was a huge one.
Speaker 3: I also stop you real quickly.
Speaker 2: We don't recognize physical abuse. It can be emotional abuse
Speaker 2: as a form of a block. And that's a classic
Speaker 2: example of someone who was physically abused and holding on
Speaker 2: to that trauma. And what you're saying is that the
Speaker 2: release came when he was doing his breath work and
Speaker 2: now he's more fully available.
Speaker 3: For the work.
Speaker 1: That is a memory that he completely blocked out and
Speaker 1: hadn't talked about, shared thought about in almost fifty years.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And it was the first thing.
Speaker 2: I think your next book, Francesca is my clients in
Speaker 2: their road to success.
Speaker 1: I have hundreds of stories I could share, definitely. Another
Speaker 1: one that I thought was really cool was I was
Speaker 1: working with the renowned producer for Justin Timberlake actually, and
Speaker 1: he thought that his purpose was to create music that
Speaker 1: affected culture, and he's like, yeah, I think this is
Speaker 1: you know what I was supposed to do, and dada da.
Speaker 1: We went into three breathwork sessions and he saw, no,
Speaker 1: my purpose is actually to show minority boys that they
Speaker 1: can live their dreams.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So that was like a really cool shift. And then
Speaker 1: I shared this with you earlier. But I think like
Speaker 1: eighty percent of people end up putting their corporate jobs
Speaker 1: once they do my actual course. So I've had now
Speaker 1: I've certified one hundred and twenty Hypno breathwork coaches in
Speaker 1: my modality, and I get photos and videos and tags
Speaker 1: and emails from them all the time. I mean they
Speaker 1: are in they're doing retreats in Costa Rica and in Greece.
Speaker 1: They're on stages, they're doing sessions for football players. You know,
Speaker 1: they're writing books. They're I mean, they're out there living
Speaker 1: their life because they're tapping into this practice every single day.
Speaker 1: But they are having the courage to do the deep work,
Speaker 1: to be consistent, to take the action. So the life
Speaker 1: of your dream is as possible, but you got to
Speaker 1: do a little deep work. You got to heal, and
Speaker 1: then you got to take intuitive.
Speaker 2: Action, unlock your purpose, unblock excuse me, unblock your purpose?
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Breath Work, Intuition and Flow State is the title of
Speaker 2: the book, Francisca. Where can people get it?
Speaker 3: I own it?
Speaker 2: Also mentioned to you listeners it just came out. The
Speaker 2: book just came out. Hey, did you do an audible
Speaker 2: version of it?
Speaker 1: I did, and fantastic and I recorded all very specific
Speaker 1: hypno breathwork sessions that are complimentary with the book for this.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So you can actually follow along and do do you
Speaker 2: do like a beginning breath work session with Oh wow, wow?
Speaker 2: That's that's really worth the price of.
Speaker 3: The book.
Speaker 1: You're telling me.
Speaker 2: You're probably thinking, why did they do that?
Speaker 1: No, My mission is to help people get into align
Speaker 1: with their purpose, and I'm more than happy to provide
Speaker 1: that resource. I hope that everyone tries it.
Speaker 2: That is very generous, Francesca, very generous. Okay, So that's
Speaker 2: your the book. How where else can people find you?
Speaker 2: What's your website?
Speaker 1: You can find you on Instagram at Francisca Sema or
Speaker 1: on my website Fanceasca setma dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay, and mastery app. Talk about how do we access that?
Speaker 2: Of course you should probably go to the website first.
Speaker 3: Read a little bit about it. But where is that available?
Speaker 1: So you can download Mastery. It's m A S. T
Speaker 1: r Y on the Apple or the Google Play Store
Speaker 1: and you can learn more about it at mastery Experience
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 2: Fantastic And just for you, what do you see yourself
Speaker 2: doing in the next five years, I'm going to build
Speaker 2: a dome. A dome you mean a pyramid, yes.
Speaker 1: Center for subconscious reprogramming where we hook in our brain waves.
Speaker 1: We see when the rewiring is happening, we get those
Speaker 1: expansive visions. We can measure it, we can calculate it,
Speaker 1: we can have the research and the data to support it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can bring an artist and thought leaders and turned
Speaker 1: their concepts into hypno breathwork sessions so that people actually
Speaker 1: retain their lessons and their learnings. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: blow it up.
Speaker 2: That's very very old world. That's the previous civilization creating
Speaker 2: domes for meditative processing. That's you must have been tapping
Speaker 2: into a couple of different lifetimes when that came up.
Speaker 1: Well, it's actually like a black mirrored glass dome. So
Speaker 1: it's very futuristic looking and very modern, but it definitely
Speaker 1: came through in a couple of breathwork sessions.
Speaker 2: Brat Cska Simba, thank you for joining me and much
Speaker 2: much success.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2: About that interview, but I really enjoyed Francesca's work and
Speaker 2: her take on the breathwork app that.
Speaker 3: She has created. And she's really put a lot of
Speaker 3: thought into the program, which I think is very important.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something else that we spoke about.
Speaker 3: At the end. We didn't include it in the recording.
Speaker 2: She has created an audible she narrates the book, but
Speaker 2: she told me that she also has guided meditations to
Speaker 2: take you through the various levels of the breath work.
Speaker 2: That is huge and I found it not only a
Speaker 2: huge benefit an important part of the book, but this
Speaker 2: is a way for those of you who are unfamiliar
Speaker 2: with breath work to have her working and guiding you
Speaker 2: through these important steps. This is huge. I was like, really,
Speaker 2: that's I mean, you're giving away your coaching. No she's not,
Speaker 2: but it's helping you and introducing you to this fabulous technique.
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, when you begin to
Speaker 2: do breath work, it can really clear a lot of
Speaker 2: problems up. You can be faced with trauma, stuff will
Speaker 2: come up. You'll have a memory, you'll have a flash
Speaker 2: of a traumatic event or an event that upset you,
Speaker 2: and you can clear it right there. You know you can,
Speaker 2: you can accept it. I felt it, I remember it,
Speaker 2: I release it for its highest good. I don't know
Speaker 2: what techniques she uses. Those are some of the old
Speaker 2: techniques that I use. But when you start doing that,
Speaker 2: you're freeing up little pockets of pain and trauma and
Speaker 2: tuxins toxicity. You get rid of your toxicity. So check
Speaker 2: out that book, Unlock your Purpose on Amazon and download
Speaker 2: the audible version, because she takes you right through it.
Speaker 3: What a great gift. Talk about a Christmas gift. Thank you, Francesca.
Speaker 2: Hey. I want to mention that we still have a
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Speaker 3: By the locals.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for this program.
Speaker 2: I want to think my guest today, Francesca Simpa, and
Speaker 2: check out her new book Unlock Your Purpose. As always,
Speaker 2: the team of Gail Tour and Mark Foster in London.
Speaker 2: You guys rock, you really do all right, Take care
Speaker 2: of be well and we will talk to you next time. No,
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