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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Reality TV Cringe, the world famous podcast.

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I am one of your hosts, Delia the younger one,

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here with my real tight homegirl and my mother in

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law Bed that's me. You look great for your aid you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my guys, we are here to talk.

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Speaker 1: Sister wowd Yes, we are currently in our rewind era.

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We are going through the records and we are in

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season nine.

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Speaker 2: Which is where shit starts popping.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So last week we talked about Mary and

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Cody's legal divorce and then of course Robin snatched him

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right up and they eloped. We've got some tension between

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Mary and Janelle. There's a lot of things perk. Yeah,

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and none of them really continued on into this episode.

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Speaker 2: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into our recap, we do want

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to give you a disclaimer. It's very serious. Please leave

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forward and pay attention. You had better hide your wife

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and don't let me get you with those kids. This

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is an irreverence podcast. Obviously, we are silly, we are stupid.

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We are for the most part uncensored. When we are

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especially naughty and offensive, we do censor, and that's only

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for the patrons, but for the most part. We're just

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here to have fun. That's what raccoons want to do. Yeah,

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they just want to have fun. Because if you're sensitive,

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get out of here, sweet baby. You might want to

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one thousandth time to hear about Cody's illustrious wrestling career,

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Speaker 1: Every little thing you do helps us in the algorithm

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Speaker 1: I feel fancy, I feel fee famous. So everything you

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do helps. Thank you in banks. Now, before we get

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into this episode, Beatrice, I do want to ask you

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whether you had any thoughts, any feelings, or any takeaways.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, this episode was kind of boring,

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and it starts getting better in this season, I do remember,

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because we've got Galveston and we've got the catfish and stuff,

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so like it starts popping off. But this episode was boring.

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My other takeaway is that I think it's interesting that

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they edited it in a way where we're talking about

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the adoption of Robin's kids, but then we're also talking

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about how Cody and his relationships with his kids is

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starting to suffer, and how there's a glowing or glaring

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disparity between his relationships with his daughters versus his sons,

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and it's kind of low key shitty and misogynistic because

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he's like, I only get along with the boys because

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they like boy stuff.

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Speaker 3: They like to russell Duhn't they're real men like me,

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Like I can't talk about the girls with girl stuff

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because you know, I'm not a girl vagina.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: So it's just like, it's just interesting to me that

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they chose to edit it in this way where we're

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like talking about him making this effort with Robin's kids

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and they're not biologically his. But then he's like not

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having a good relationship with the rest of his children.

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It's it's pretty shitty.

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Speaker 1: It is shitty. I agree. So my takeaway, I'm just

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gonna start right out the gate and tell you it's inappropriate.

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It's not cool. But I mean, I think we're all

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thinking it. Yeah, and so I want to be that

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person who represents is the mouthpiece of the dumpster. And

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I'm just gonna say, and I mean it in the

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most complimentary way, that Hunter's booty is popping out. Did

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you see him in those ones?

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Speaker 2: Siaes girl, his booty.

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Speaker 1: Just out there, body popping out.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure guys everywhere we're like, oh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's eighteen here, he's about to

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graduate in high school and go off to college. I'm

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not trying to be inapproprobe, but like, you put him

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in these I'm sorry, you put him in these skimpy

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little outfits and it's just showing everything and I'm just like, damn, wow.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's very telling that Cody says wrestling is

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the best sport in the whole world, and I'm like,

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why because of the leotards?

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Speaker 1: Is that why, well, because of the ball's right in

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your face. There's balls right right, and say, sense of

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a man. It was very interesting sort of the outfits,

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the regalia, and that's all I'm gonna say about that.

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I just know I just noticed it. And my bad. No,

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you could tell me I'm bad. I'm old's going wait

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until I'm like legit eighty girl and you take me

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to the Starbucks and I'm just talking straight to people.

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You got a nice ass, young man. Oh god, I

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can't wait. Nobody's gonna do nothing well in this day

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and age. They might kill me. They might murk me

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on the spot.

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Speaker 2: For sexually harassing the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they might dispatch me from this planet. Okay, without

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further ato, let's get into our recap of Sister Wives

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season nine episode to a Tatto.

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Speaker 2: To Wrestling with Adoption.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this, I'm so so boring. It really was.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna bring what can't we even talk? There

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really wasn't much here. It was a lot of filler, honestly,

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and it was a lot of like the same conversation

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over and over again. So we start off the episode

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at Robin's house, of course, because we have to tell

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Leon and Robin's kids about Mary's divorce, and Cody ends

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up asking Robin's kids in a very performative way for

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Speaker 3: Like Lee, let me adove you can I be a daddy,

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And of course Aurora runs up to him and jumps

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in his arms, and I'm just like pointing out that

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I feel like they have kind of a weird relationship.

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I don't want to say, of course, not inappropriate, saying

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that I would hope not to God, I would hope

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that there's not anything inappropriate going on, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of.

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Speaker 1: Like I do see people on Reddit speculating and commenting

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and being stupid about that. But I just think that

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in the absence of her bio dad's presence, she's really

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attached to Cody, and you can't blame her. And Rob

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really pushed for that as well.

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Speaker 2: I guess I just I don't know. Like I was

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a kid when my parents divorced and I was like

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thirteen fourteen, and I wasn't running into my stepdad's arms

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like that, you know what I mean? I don't know,

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so then it's the next day or whatever, We're still

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at Robin's house and we're talking about like Solomon needing

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a haircut, and Robin's like, I'm worried about talking about

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it with Coony because he's like so attached to Solomon's

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hair or whatever. But then Cody comes in and he's like,

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we should get Solomon a haircut, and she's like, oh

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Speaker 1: It's like we are so connected.

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Speaker 2: We're so connected, we're twinlad And.

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Speaker 1: Five minutes later there's a hairstylist. So this was all

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booked in advance, had already talked about it and it

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was planned.

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Speaker 2: And then after that, Cody's talks to Robin on camera also,

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which I just think is inappropriate, and.

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Speaker 4: He's like, maybe should have another baby. Maybe after his haircut,

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it's time for us to have a baby. And Robin

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like beams and gets immediately wet, and she's like, oh

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Speaker 1: Think she's already pregnant.

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Speaker 2: You think so.

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Speaker 1: Furthermore, can we just take a little sidebar here, because

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the recommitment ceremony, Yeah, didn't Robin go running from the

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celebration because there was some kind of a secret do

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you remember this, I do vaguely, And it felt like

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they were going to announce the pregnancy with Ariella, like

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something was going on, but they never resolved that. They

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went straight to a tell all yeah yeah, and then

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into a new season and I'm like, well, what was

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that all about? Well maybe she literally ran away. Yeah,

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but this editing and production is sloppy.

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Speaker 2: Well, it just goes to show that they've been doing

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this like fuckery with like, oh, we're gonna pre film

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all of this content and then we'll release it like

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whenever the hell we want to. It's like we're probably

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watching stuff from yeah, last season in season nine.

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Speaker 1: Well, even with Solomon's hair, they promptly get it cut.

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Yeah he looks super turbo cue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's Alopi.

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Speaker 1: But then in like the next scene, it's long again. Yeah,

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exactly did you notice that? I'm like okay together?

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Speaker 2: And then Robin wants to pretend like she's concerned about

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having a baby with Cody, because you know, if I

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have a baby with him right now, he's gonna be

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six seventh, he's gonna be six seven when he's gonna

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be a senior citizen. You know, I have to think

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about that. But then she doesn't end up thinking about it,

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She just ends up having a baby with him. Anywaygnant,

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she's already pregnant, because of course she is.

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Speaker 1: She's on the couch and she's kind of wearing this

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billowing top and she's kind of smushed by Mary.

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Speaker 2: She's hiding her belly. And then we head over to

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Hunter's wrestling tournament because he's a state champion. He's a

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return dan. I mean actually.

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Speaker 1: Though, he's fit, popping out her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fitting fresh.

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Speaker 1: I just I look at it and I cove it.

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I'm so jealous. I got a Colmcave booty.

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Speaker 2: Do you think a big booty on a man is attractive.

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Speaker 1: If it's like a football player he's wearing those like

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tights and stuff. Yeah, because it indicates thrusting potential. He

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can get it in and you know, he can move

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it around and make it feel really So that's what

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a butt indicates. And so yeah, but like I don't

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need a big juicy like you do. I know you

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love a big juicy booty, well a girl. Yeah, but

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back to me, Yeah, I ain't got that. I ain't

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got any of that. We're it's supposed to go like that.

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Speaker 2: Goes like that, which is really funny because her daughter's.

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Speaker 1: My daughter has a great ass. My mom had a

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great ass. Really, yes, my mom had a great ass.

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My dad had a flat fucking ass. So you got

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brother has a flat fucking ass, jeans sucking ass. I

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gotta do squats or something. What do the kids do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta do squats and hip thrusts. You gotta

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grow them glutes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I could do that. Oh my god, Jereedy.

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Speaker 2: And anyway, so we're getting ready to head to Hunter

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State tournament. It's going to be in Winnemucca, Nevada, akim

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the middle of nowhere, and we have this like stupid

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segment with the family where like Mary and Christine are

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making fun of wrestling, as they should because it's kind

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of a funny sport, but Cody's like, but heard about

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it because he thinks it's the greatest sport in the

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world because it's the only time in his life where

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he gets to feel the closeness of another man. So

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while they're getting ready to go to the tournament, we

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have like a little spat where gwendolen I guess said

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she wanted to go and then she decided that she

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didn't want to go because she wants to hang out

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with Aura with Robin. Because of course, Robin conveniently gets

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to stay behind while Mary and Janelle and Christine all

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have to go to the tournament with a lot of

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their kids. So Gwendolyn's gonna stay behind. Cody gets but

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hurt about it. Then they're in Winnamucca the Hunter's returning

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state champ and that's great. I just don't care, Like

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I just don't want to watch it on TV, you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, there was a lot of time dedicated to

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his various wrestling matches and what are we doing here?

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adults on the couch when they're talking about wrestling and

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how great it is, and I think Cody makes some

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kind of inappropriate comment a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He's like, well, it's deep, it's very deep grind, getting,

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you know, aggressive and intimate with.

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Speaker 2: A man, and like all the wives are laughing at

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him for it, and like, why are you saying deep grind?

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You're in blying sex, which is so scandalous for these

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Mormons to even really be talking about.

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Speaker 1: So I know, he went to university, or he said

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he did because he had some sort of a sillacious

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encounter in university. Yeah, was he wrestling in university?

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Speaker 2: I would assume.

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Speaker 1: So oh interesting, so interesting. One.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like wondering, is that why people thought you

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were flamboyantly gay in high school? Because you were a wrestler,

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and like maybe you were like fondling some of the

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guys in.

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Speaker 1: The locker room allegedly And we're just joking, we are,

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but heavily implying, And then we switch gears entirely, and

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then we like go to talk to some of the

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older kids on the couch, specifically like Aspen.

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Speaker 2: And Maddie, and I think Logan and Hunter and stuff

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are there, but like Aspen's the one that brings it up.

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How Cody is closer with all of the boys in

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the family and he's not as close with the girls.

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And Maddie in particular, is like I used to be

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really but hurt by it because growing up, Hunter was

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basically worshiped because he was this pro wrestler and he

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was this athlete and blah blah blah blah, and like

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we just got kind of pushed to the side and

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then we hear from like Cody at the same time saying,

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you know, yeah, like I could work on my relationships

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with my kids, specifically my daughters, but like also I

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just like relate to the boys because you know, I'm

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a man, right.

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Speaker 1: But didn't we already talk about this with the archaeologists. Yeah,

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I just don't understand why we have to have this

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same conversation again. We've already established that Cody lacks a

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connection with his girls for whatever reason. He already said

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last season he wants to do something about that. And

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so now here we are in season died, and we're

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still talking about it. And I don't think he's doing

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anything about it though.

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Speaker 2: He's not at all. And I don't know why we're

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addressing it. Maybe it's because they think or they're assuming

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that the viewers can pick up on the fact that

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Cody is not having a good relationship with his kids,

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and so they're trying to like do damage control or

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like they're trying to be like no, no, no, like.

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Speaker 1: We're because the archaeologists did and maybe that bring it

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up and so maybe they are concerned about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But then you have the wives kind of defending

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Cody for it. Like, I think Christine's the one that says,

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you know, Cody feels a lot of pressure to have

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good relationships with all of his kids, and you know, like,

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I'm definitely one of the wives that pressures him a

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lot to have a good relationship with my daughters. And

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then Janelle offends him even further and says, you know what,

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my dad was monogamous, and Cody's so much more present

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than my dad ever was, so like, I think he's

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doing great.

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Speaker 1: It's super interesting watching these earlier seasons and seeing just

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how much Janelle capes for Cody. She does a lot

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all the time, which you want your partner to do that,

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but there's a difference between what Janelle divulges and says

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versus what Christine offers and even what Mary offers. Like

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Janelle's very tight lipped, and she's always writing really hard

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for him, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Always, and it's actually kind of annoying to me. Yeah,

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Like the more that I see it, the more I'm like, oh, Okay,

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I don't really like you. Janelle.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe she was getting that extra money, as we

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have discussed.

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Speaker 2: Pre probably yep, and then totally given her that sweet

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sweet love and so that way she can continue to

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defend him because he needs people in his court because

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at this point, you know, Mary's sucking on bananas and

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Christine's mad at him all the time. And then they

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go to Galveston, so it's like, you know, he needs

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Janelle in his corner. And so then after the tournament,

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you know, Hunter wins. That's great, yay, amazing, awesome. They

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go back home. They're back at Robin's house. They're building

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a swing set for her backyard, I guess, And I'm

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just like, there's a lot of scenes here where we're

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at Robin's house. Yes, very curious.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was looking at the placement of the elaborate

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swing set for all those kids, and I was wondering

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if it was kind of between houses. I'm not sure

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it was predominantly at near Robin's. And I'm like, this

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is a glaring thing to me, because we never really

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see what's going on in Mary's backyard or Christine's or Janelle's.

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It's always Robin's. It's getting tricked out.

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Speaker 2: Well, because I think she's the only one that has

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the finished backyard at this point, because I think did

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Christine talk about it, how like in Vegas, Like it

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was always just gravel back.

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Speaker 1: There, yes, like it was a moon's scape. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think at this point it probably is

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just Robin's house, but it was weird. This This segment

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was about the swing set, and this is where we

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talk more about Cody's shitty relationships with his kids. But

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Robin at one point makes a comment about how she

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was questioning whether plural marriage would be good for their kids,

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specifically when she was courting Cody, but now that she's

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in this arrangement, she sees that it is good for

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the kids, And I'm like, why make that comment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a non sequitur.

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Speaker 2: And I was wondering if she was making it in

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response to, like Cody talking about his relationships with his kids,

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like she didn't want people to think that it was

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because of plural marriage, because it kind of brought up

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that conversation of like, well, you know, some people think

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that in plural marriage, like the dads can't have good

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relationships with all their kids, And it's not because of

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plural marriage. It's because it's a lot of pressure over

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the mom because it's so much for him. You know,

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he's got a lot on his plate, right, So I

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was wondering if that was why she made that comment,

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but it was just weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then Christine talks about how she's gotten onto Cody

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a lot for not being involved with the kids. She

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doesn't want Cody to have regrets like her dad did,

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which is really telling.

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear more about that. Yeah, I

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don't think she actually wrote about that in her book.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't really talk about her dad too much. She

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talks about her mom quite a bit more, but I

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would like to learn more about her patriarch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be very interesting. And then Cody again

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talks about how it's hard to relate to teenage girls,

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but it's easier to relate to teenage boys, so that's

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why he has better relationships with his sons. And it's

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just like, I don't know, my dad was a girl dad,

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so he didn't have sons, and he was involved, like,

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he did his best to relate to us, you know,

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and there were times where he couldn't because yeah, like

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we like girly things or whatever. But Cody using this

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as an excuse to not relate to his daughters is

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really fucked up.

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Speaker 1: It's very misogynistic. Yeah, it's very toxic.

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand where what his life is with that,

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because I'm like, you can, you can try, though, And

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then we hear from the adult kids, Maddie in particular,

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saying that, you know, actually, our dad used to take

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us out on dates, right, and he used to get

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us flowers and like treat us how to like girl

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dad dates or whatever. And now he stopped doing that

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and we really miss being able to do that with him.

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And this kind of gets into a segue where Cody

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says Isabelle asked him for her birthday for a beach trip,

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and she wanted some of her sisters to come, and

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she'sa like, can we just not bring the boys? And

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Cody's like, oh, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, And my question was when Maddie said that that

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they used to go on girl dates or individual dates

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with dad, when did that stop? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: I bet when Robin came into the picture, I think so,

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I bet when Robin came in. And Robin even talks

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to the wives at one point saying, you know, yeah,

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I've had to talk to Coody about it, but it's

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relationships with his Duatas and his sons, and I told that,

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you know, it's not like Palatine around with the boys,

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like girls are so much more emotional. You got to

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be emotionally in this. To Cody, m so, why don't

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you try to make more of an effort. And of

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course when Robin.

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Speaker 1: Says this, well, she's the Cody whisperer.

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Speaker 2: Then Cody's like, yeah, I'll make more of an effort.

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And then we shift gears entirely again and we talk

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about Maddie getting baptized in the LDS church and we

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have this like big family announcement about it, and was

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she there? I don't think she was there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either, but like.

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Speaker 2: All of the wives were there and all of the

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kids were there, and it was kind of weird. It

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was like the family debriefing them, being like, this is

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what's going to happen. And you know, for the most part,

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everybody was kind of accepting of it of like, well,

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it's her life, she can choose to do what she

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wants to do. But some of the kids were asking

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some kind of challenging questions about it, which actually made

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Cody start to challenge his beliefs on it. Because at

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first he was like open, and then now he's like, well,

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why does she want to do it? And is she

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gonna ostracize herself from the family because of it? And

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I don't know. I'm just like, why are you guys

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even trying to tie yourselves to the AUB at this

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point though, Like you've been in Vegas for like over

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a year, maybe two years at this point, and you

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haven't gone to the AUB, you haven't gone to any

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of those churches, church services, You don't even do church

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services in your own home anymore.

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Speaker 1: Right, But isn't Christine still doing principal voices at this point?

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Speaker 2: Maybe she is.

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Speaker 1: I think she's still involved. I think they're still in

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contact with the AUB in some fashion. But also I

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think they want to talk about this because this is

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the cornerstone of their television identity. It's the fact that

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they are polygamist Mormons, and every opportunity they have to

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present that and then paint themselves as potential martyrs because

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what if Maddie has to disown us, What if Maddie

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can't talk to us anymore because.

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Speaker 2: We're believable, we're not doing anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: Like that is their whole narrative, and that's why they

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keep bringing it up.

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Speaker 2: And does Maddie actually end up getting baptized because I

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thought she got.

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Speaker 1: Like they don't accept her right, they don't even let

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her in.

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought. So this whole thing, it just

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ends up being a moot point. And then the last

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bit of the episode is discussing the adoption of Aurora,

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Brianna and Dayton, and we get a little bit more

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insight into why they're choosing to do it the way

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that they want to do it. So they wanted to

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file for the adoption in Montana, where the kid's biological father,

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Preston lives, because they wanted it to be easier on him.

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They didn't want it to be like Fi. I guess

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they didn't want it to be in Nevada because they

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didn't want I think Robin says it specifically, like we

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didn't want him to think that we were going to

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make it harder on him, or something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: She wants it to be in Montana because there are

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judges there that are sympathetic to legamy, whereas in Las

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Vegas you are a lot less likely to find a

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judge like that. But Cody wants Nevada to be the

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home turf because it will disincline Preston of like traveling

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down to Nevada and like they would maybe have to

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bleed him dry and would he be able to afford

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it and all of these other things. I think Cody

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wants to do a snaky thing, and I do. I

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think Robin does as well. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she has a lawyer there too that helped her

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00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,880
with her divorce, and so she wants to use that

471
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,480
same lawyer and I forgot. She also said she wanted

472
00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:34,119
to do it in Montana because she didn't want to

473
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,640
have to tell her kids later on in the future

474
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,519
that they made it harder on their biological dad. And

475
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,119
I'm like, Okay, this is proof that you're just wanting

476
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,079
to make it as complicated and as snaky as possible,

477
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,880
and you are doing something bad here, like you are

478
00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:54,000
taking his residents kids away.

479
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: Yes.

480
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: And that's the other layer of all of this is

481
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,319
that they are basically, I don't want to say blackmailing,

482
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,359
but they are kind of.

483
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,599
Speaker 1: Like trying to incentivize him to do.

484
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: The adoption by forgiving his child support debt and forgiving

485
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,720
all of the medical bills. I guess that he allegedly

486
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:15,039
owes for the three.

487
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,039
Speaker 1: Kids, particularly probably date and probably which is ironic since

488
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,759
he was with Cody when he had his ATV accident.

489
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so Robin's like, it's actually a good thing

490
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,839
for him. It's a good deal. So that's why he

491
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,039
should take it, because it's a good deal because he

492
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:32,400
doesn't have to pay child support and he doesn't have

493
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,519
to pay the medical bills. And I'm like, okay, but what.

494
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: About having a biodet in their lives? Yeah, what about

495
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,799
the enhancement of that. I know Robin is so invested

496
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,960
in painting Preston as an abuser, and she's getting like

497
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,640
more diabolical with her rhetoric from season to season, Like

498
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,359
she really wants us to believe that he was a

499
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,279
bad guy. But Preston's family over the years have spoken

500
00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:56,640
out and said, no, he's actually a good guy. Yeah,

501
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,720
they were poor, but Robin was actually the one who

502
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,359
was spending all the time getting them into debt. She

503
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,279
was the problem. So it's like he said, she said,

504
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:08,200
but like always, I think you should try and keep

505
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,440
the dad in the children's lives. And I want to

506
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960
speculate here. And I wonder whether the reason we don't

507
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,640
see Dayton in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty

508
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,000
six is because he is trying to re establish a

509
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:23,240
connection with Preston, who is ill yep with cancer. How

510
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:24,400
is he doing? Does anybody know?

511
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't found any new information about that.

512
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,960
If anybody knows, please let us know in the comments below.

513
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:30,799
But like, how are you.

514
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Going to feel as Aurora and Dayton and maybe Brianna

515
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,799
although she seems evile. Sorry, but like when you are

516
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,680
in your thirties, in your forties and your sick father

517
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,839
has passed or I don't know, I don't want to

518
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:44,640
speak anything out there, but like what if he does

519
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,400
and those precious years were taken away from you by

520
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,640
a conniving mother and adopted father who wanted to isolate

521
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,119
you from your dad, Like that just would be such

522
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,079
a horrible wound.

523
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, and you lose out on all that time.

524
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:05,640
Like I have my own personal experience with that, and

525
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,640
I have family members who've had a personal experience like

526
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,880
that where they had even worse situations where their mom

527
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,559
like completely took them away from their dad for over

528
00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:16,559
ten years and then they were able to reconnect when

529
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,039
they were an adult, but like, you lose out on

530
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:21,039
all that time. And it's funny that you bring up Dayton,

531
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,359
because Robin brings up Dayton in this episode, specifically with

532
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,359
her worry about telling her kids later on in the

533
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,880
future about how the adoption process actually went. She's really

534
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,839
concerned because she wants to make sure her kids know

535
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:39,559
that she's doing the best thing for them and that

536
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:43,880
they're being nice to Preston about it. But in reality,

537
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,400
what they're doing, in my opinion, is that they are

538
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,039
going behind his back and they're they're totally like pulling

539
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,240
his arm and being like, you know, we want this

540
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,039
adoption on him, Yeah, if you and will forgive your

541
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,519
day because you can't afford to travel to Lot Vegas

542
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,200
at this time, and because he can't afford to litigate

543
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,160
it because he can't afford it, and he ohs. And

544
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,079
that's the thing. The other like elephant in the room

545
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,759
with all of this, is that they want to do

546
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,400
this adoption because they Preston hasn't seen his kids in

547
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:14,920
two years.

548
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,599
Speaker 1: But why is that?

549
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: Why is that?

550
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: Why aren't you taking your kids that she used to.

551
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, she used to, She did like once, Yeah, but

552
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,559
I don't think she's been doing it regularly. And how

553
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:27,839
many out of state moves have you done at this point?

554
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,039
You've done at least two or three, because she went

555
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,359
from Montana, she went to Wyoming, then she went to

556
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,640
Saint George.

557
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: And up to Lee High High ves And.

558
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, how can you cultivate or like, uh,

559
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,400
nurture a relationship with their biological father if you are

560
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:50,960
states away, you can't do it.

561
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: So he's already disadvantage exactly. He can't follow you around,

562
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,319
he doesn't have the means to do so. And meanwhile,

563
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,880
you're on this television show bringing in all this money.

564
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:03,079
He can see that his kids are being taken care

565
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,680
of and you're performing that you want to love them.

566
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,480
Cody and the rest of the family. I don't know,

567
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,480
but like it's just such a bad situation for him,

568
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119
Like I don't know him. Maybe he was a bad person,

569
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,599
but I think there is a correlation between the time

570
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000
that the news was released that he was sick and

571
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:21,000
the time that Dayton disappeared from our televisions. And I

572
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,480
was also watching Dayton in this episode when they announced

573
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,720
the adoption and they asked him specifically, how do you feel?

574
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,599
He was very neutral. Yeah, He's like, yeah, that sounds great, yep.

575
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,240
Whereas Aurora jumped into Cody's lap and Breonna was so excited.

576
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,599
Dayton's like, yeah, that's great, yep, Yeah I want that.

577
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: And no wonder Robin is worried about Dayton's position.

578
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: She can see it because she knows. And that's probably

579
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,920
because Dayton had longer with Preston. He has more of

580
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,400
an established relationship with his biodad and it was probably

581
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,880
a good one while they were together. Probably, I mean,

582
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,279
we're just speculating. I don't know obviously, if Preston was

583
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,680
actually abusive and terrible, Like we don't advocate for like

584
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,400
the kids having a relationship with somebody who's that terrible, obviously,

585
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,559
But it's just like, given Robin and Cody's track record,

586
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,240
how manipulative and how calculating aren't calculated, It's like it

587
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,799
wouldn't surprise either of us if this whole adoption thing

588
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:21,079
was done in a very terrible, shitty way. And then

589
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,720
when they're talking about it, they like get a phone

590
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,000
call from Robin's lawyer in Montana, so they filed for

591
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,839
the adoption of Montana because they wanted it to be

592
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,839
easier for Preston. The lawyer calls them and says, well,

593
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,880
the judge found that Nevada is actually their home state,

594
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,119
which they don't really go into any more detail, but

595
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,359
I'm kind of wondering if the judge was like, we're

596
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,920
not going to file this adoption in Montana because obviously

597
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,000
the kids live in Nevada, so file it there. And

598
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,279
I'm wondering if that was kind of the conversation. It

599
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,920
could have just been a jurisdiction issue, probably simple.

600
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:57,039
Speaker 2: And then they also mention that Preston has been avoiding

601
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,640
being served and he's avoiding like doing the paperwork, and

602
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,079
so the lawyer says something to the effect of like, well,

603
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:06,839
if he's avoiding it, it works better in your favor

604
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,519
because you can just file it without his influence. And

605
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:14,240
I don't know what the legality do with that.

606
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:18,079
Speaker 1: You can't proceed with the adoption without his agreement. I

607
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,880
know ultimately he does end up agreeing to it, but

608
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,680
maybe the reason his avoiding service is because he doesn't

609
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,680
want to lose connection with his kids.

610
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: Maybe you guys are so cold hearted, and that's the thing.

611
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880
And Robin's like, well, I'm really concerned. I really want

612
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,000
the ball to be in his court so that he

613
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,880
has no excuses. And I'm like, what do you mean

614
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,279
no excuses. It's again like it's all pointing to this

615
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:46,640
is what Robin wants. It's not necessarily for the betterment

616
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:50,119
of her kids. It's a power play. She doesn't want

617
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:52,400
Preston in her life whatsoever. It doesn't want Preston in

618
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,400
her kids's life, and she's making that decision for them.

619
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,400
And so it would make sense if Dayton grew up

620
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,400
and finally realize like, oh my mom's a snake. I'm

621
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,839
gonna go back and see my daddy.

622
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: Yep.

623
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:09,519
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the episode, Cody, you know,

624
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:13,599
he's like, well, Preston's giving us a hard time. I

625
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,720
have no problem going to.

626
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,279
Speaker 1: War, okay, Cody for my kids.

627
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,039
Speaker 2: And you know, I was watching this from this perspective

628
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,920
of like, maybe Cody doesn't know the full extent of

629
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,319
the situation. Probably not, Maybe Robin has manipulated him. I'm

630
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:32,359
sure to believe that Preston was such an evil, horrible,

631
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,079
awful dude, and Cody is doing all of this from

632
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,599
a paternal like protective point of view, and I could

633
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,400
see that, but the whole situation to me just feels

634
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,000
really icky.

635
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,319
Speaker 1: Okay, but let's pop up a little bit, go a

636
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:54,519
little meta. So if Preston doesn't lose access to his kids,

637
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:59,119
if he still exercises his visitation, he has more influence

638
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,079
over those kids, and as they get older, he has

639
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,519
an opportunity to establish a deeper bond and relationship with

640
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:09,000
his children, who might at some point make a decision

641
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,160
that they want to live with their dad. Certainly Dayton

642
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480
might have made that decision, and maybe even the girls,

643
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,759
with enough exposure to their father would want to spend

644
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:21,039
more time with him. Now, if that happened, if some

645
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:22,880
of these kids wanted to live with him or spend

646
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,119
more time with him, how would that impact the child support?

647
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,680
How would that impact the money? Like, what if at

648
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,519
some point he had possession of all three kids, Robin

649
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,279
would have to pay, Cody would have to pay. I

650
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:38,839
think there is also some sort of a financial protective

651
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,720
incentive that Robin is thinking about. I think she wants

652
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,359
to shank her ex because she wants to get him

653
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,720
for whatever reason. But I also think there's this protect

654
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,400
like I want to protect this empire that I just

655
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:54,440
got ax. I just got purview over Visa VI, my

656
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,000
legal marriage to Cody Brown. I am now in charge

657
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,079
of all of this, and I don't want him to

658
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,960
have any way to get any of it.

659
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so fucking diabolical. But I could

660
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,759
totally see that if Robin really is this master manipulator,

661
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,599
puppet master or whatever, I could totally see something like that,

662
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,519
because I mean, even if she kept like the custody

663
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,559
rights and Preston was paying child sport, like, he still

664
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,400
would have access to the kids.

665
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,799
Speaker 1: And therefore her empire. And so she couldn't let that happen.

666
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,440
It's a vulnerability at the very least. It's a weakness

667
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,119
and exposure.

668
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: God, I just want her kids to like wake the

669
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,759
fuck up, and maybe Dan has I think it has.

670
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,599
Speaker 1: I think Aurora has the potential to. I don't know,

671
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,480
she's really so manipulated though, been drinking the kool aid

672
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,319
and really like loves Cody. But I think if she

673
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,599
does get married to another man, she gets integrated into

674
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,400
another family structure of like actually good people, like she

675
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,440
has a chance to like get some perspective on what's

676
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,240
been happening, and when she has her own kids, when

677
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,079
they have their own children, they'll be able to kind

678
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:05,920
of see, huh, maybe mom wasn't doing things on the

679
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,360
up and up the entire time. Maybe I should have

680
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,840
had the opportunity to know my dad.

681
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: I feel like it's possible only because I was like that,

682
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,960
Like I had believed certain things about my family, specifically

683
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,760
my father. Hi Dad, if you're listening. I believed to

684
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239
certain things for a long time, and then when I

685
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,239
got out on my own and got a partner and

686
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,800
went to therapy, I realized like, oh shit, this was

687
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,239
not the way it was like. And I was able

688
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,199
to reconcile things with my dad later on in life,

689
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480
and I'm very grateful for that, but it took a

690
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,199
lot of years. And so I hope that for Aurora,

691
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,800
and I hope that for Brianna. I think it's possible,

692
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,639
but it's not easy, and it is kind of like

693
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,000
a ontologically shocking thing to have to go through, especially

694
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:56,920
in your twenties, when you're like your brain's fully developing

695
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,079
and you're becoming an adult and you realize like, oh oh,

696
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:03,639
your parents are just people, and like they're flawed and

697
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,559
it's like this huge journey and unless Aurora and Brionna

698
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,239
can get out of that fucking house and get away

699
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,159
from Robin and her web, like, I don't know if

700
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,400
they're gonna be able to come to that kind of

701
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,800
realization because I could only come out of that when

702
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,960
I got to be on my own right. So I

703
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,719
hope that for them, because if Preston actually wasn't a

704
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,639
terrible person, like he got jipped, man.

705
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: Oh he got fucked.

706
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel bad for him, you know, if

707
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,679
he's not a bad guy, if he's a piece of shit,

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then obviously I take that back. And so then the

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preview for the next episode or the rest of the season,

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Cody and Christine's anniversary is coming up, and so they're

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going to Galveston. Beautiful, scenic Galveston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you when I did when I

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went to Galveston? Girl, I'll save it for next week.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to shit on it because I

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know some people are like, I love Galveston.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great for you, But I'm from Hawaii.

717
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Speaker 2: I'm from Oregon.

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Speaker 1: No. And the golf is gorgeous, don't get me wrong.

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But we'll talk about it next week, because I mean,

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what an experience that was. And I think Christine's about

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to have a great experience too, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's like their anniversary trip and then they

723
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bring their fucking family therapist, so they bring Nancy with

724
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:26,719
them for therapy on their anniversary weekend. This sounds fun,

725
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,280
and I remember this episode. It's bad. Yeah, and then

726
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Christine admits to being a jealous hoe fair and valid.

727
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And then Robin has a panic attack because of the

728
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adoption process. Okay, so like I might get out of here, dude, Yeah,

729
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I just don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't either at all.

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Speaker 2: So this season's gonna pop off here soon. This episode

732
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,559
was totally boring, but I'm hoping the next episodes are

733
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gonna be better.

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Speaker 1: Pop off like that Booty had. He's still walking around

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00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,360
that booty thirty years old. Yes, but I I enjoyed it.

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I mean it's it's we're on a journey. We are

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on a journey season nine, Jurney. I can't wait to

738
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get to season ten because that's full catfish modee. Like

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right now, I am content, and I hope everyone else

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is as well. Nol Beatrice, is there anything else that

741
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,119
we should say? To these beautiful raccoons before we get

742
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:19,840
up on out of here.

743
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Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please do us a favor.

744
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,840
Go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us a

745
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,960
glowing five star review. Cost you us that it really

746
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,079
helps us grow the pod and we would really appreciate it,

747
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,119
so thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: We also want to acknowledge that we did not drop

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a platfill episode last week, and that was because I

750
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:41,079
was not feeling well that day. I was under the

751
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:43,239
weather and you were also under the weather. So we

752
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,039
are going to do double duty this week. And also

753
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,480
for patrons only, I don't know if you heard about this,

754
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:56,760
but that psychotic nutcracker, allegedly Veronica Peters, Micah's ex, dropped

755
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,280
a live an Instagram live like in It was a

756
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,719
four or five part live in which she made some wild, insane,

757
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,840
wild allegation insane And so for patrons only, Beatrice and

758
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,920
I are gonna watch them and comment on them and

759
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,280
share with you exactly what she said. But like, it's

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00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,079
really bad and so we want to get to it

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or the guardbotch the gar So until then, please do

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not forget. We have nothing but love for you, and

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please LUs

