Speaker 1: Ready, get ready for.
Speaker 2: Sixteenth day of March twenty twenty five, allegedly according to
Speaker 2: that thing we call a calendar. And yeah, I'm broadcasting
Speaker 2: live on a Sunday, which I usually don't do.
Speaker 3: So special treat for those of you.
Speaker 2: Hanging around on the Ocelli dot com stream twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven, but most of you will be hearing this
Speaker 2: in a podcast form later. Happy to do this one, though,
Speaker 2: I did another recording earlier on a Sunday and didn't
Speaker 2: announce that one at all and just barely squeaked out
Speaker 2: a tweet. I take a couple of minutes ago to
Speaker 2: let people know that I would have James Corbett on
Speaker 2: and why Corbett Report dot Com. Look, if you're not
Speaker 2: aware of James Corbett, welcome to the internet. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. You're listening to
Speaker 2: my show and you don't know James Corbett is. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's possible anyway. I've often described him as
Speaker 2: a guy who inspired what it is I do. I've
Speaker 2: definitely been happy to interview him be interviewed by him,
Speaker 2: not only on the JFK subject, which we're gonna touch
Speaker 2: today a little bit here in this quick one hour
Speaker 2: discussion at most. Who knows, maybe James doesn't even have
Speaker 2: an hour for me. We're gonna find out, because he's busy,
Speaker 2: often busy, and I love it because he's been the
Speaker 2: most successful, consistent guy in what used to be called
Speaker 2: alt media, and I don't even like using the phrase anymore,
Speaker 2: but maybe we'll touch on that too. So from the
Speaker 2: sunny climes of that part of Japan, how you doing, James.
Speaker 4: I am doing pretty good. Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 5: And you know what, Chuck, I will carve out an
Speaker 5: hour for you because I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 3: And I have always appreciated you.
Speaker 2: But now that we've appreciated each other, let's get into
Speaker 2: the ugly details of what's what, because you've been able
Speaker 2: to maintain and I gotta tell you, I'm having a
Speaker 2: hard time maintaining my desire to continuously cover information that
Speaker 2: is rarefied, all right, and that's kind of what I
Speaker 2: go after. I know in a way you do that
Speaker 2: as well. And we each have our own brand of
Speaker 2: almost libertarian kind of lenses that we place on these things.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that you and I are even
Speaker 2: similar politically, but we could fall into the same category
Speaker 2: not part of the mainstream. And as I've said before,
Speaker 2: you kind of inspired me in a way here. You're
Speaker 2: one of the inspirations for what it is I do.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how it is you're keeping it
Speaker 2: up because at this point there is a craziness happening
Speaker 2: here in the US, which I'm sure you're happy to
Speaker 2: be outside of. But there is a new mentality out
Speaker 2: there in media, in communication in oh and by the way,
Speaker 2: Skype is going to be gone and we're using it
Speaker 2: for today's interview, just letting you guys know. And a
Speaker 2: long time ago, I used to have to use a
Speaker 2: landline to call James's radio show that he was doing
Speaker 2: when we did the first two Lee Harvey Oswald interviews,
Speaker 2: which you can still find in the archives acorporate Report
Speaker 2: dot com. Anyway, enough bat of my mouth, James, Are
Speaker 2: you having any trouble maintaining your desire to keep digging,
Speaker 2: to keep being something other than the corporate other than
Speaker 2: the alleged indie media out there, which is a mess.
Speaker 3: Are you having any trouble with that or is it
Speaker 3: just me?
Speaker 5: I am not, I would say, because I have achieved
Speaker 5: some zen like state in which I don't really care
Speaker 5: whatever expectations people may or may not have about me,
Speaker 5: or the craziness of the conversation that's going on around me. Okay,
Speaker 5: And maybe that's because I got into this precisely because
Speaker 5: I want to do my own research of things that
Speaker 5: I am interested in and talk about them in my
Speaker 5: own way, and so it doesn't really matter to me
Speaker 5: what other people think about that. The only difference, of course,
Speaker 5: I suppose, is that I am supported out of the
Speaker 5: generosity of my listeners. So if they, I guess on
Speaker 5: mass stop supporting my work, I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 5: do it for a living, but I would still be
Speaker 5: doing research regardless of whether or not I had a website.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just living in the perfect bubble, but whatever,
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't really care what other people are
Speaker 5: doing to the extent that it doesn't affect what I
Speaker 5: can do.
Speaker 2: No, I just envy this bubble you're in because you've
Speaker 2: described exactly what I think I'm seeing from the outside
Speaker 2: looking at what you're doing. And I got into it
Speaker 2: for the same reason again, because I felt like there
Speaker 2: was something that wasn't being presented out there that I
Speaker 2: wanted presented.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna do it. And but but.
Speaker 2: It's weird, like I've had a serious shift when it
Speaker 2: comes to my listeners. Have you had any sort of
Speaker 2: sudden shift in support or sudden shift in a feedback
Speaker 2: from your listeners, Because yes, you are supported by the
Speaker 2: generosity of your listeners, and you can easily sign up
Speaker 2: at court report dot com for as little as a
Speaker 2: dollar a month.
Speaker 4: Still, right, indeed you can, yes, yeah, you certainly can.
Speaker 2: So just saying, you know, even though you've been kicked
Speaker 2: off a Patreon and I don't know why you're banned
Speaker 2: off a rock fin just like me too.
Speaker 5: But anyway, finding this out, I was told this the
Speaker 5: other day. I didn't even know.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, no, it's and here's the funny thing. You
Speaker 2: hear James laughing and he's like, yeah, I found that
Speaker 2: out the other You know why he's casual about it
Speaker 2: because he's done this before.
Speaker 5: Uh, you've been kicked off Claque and was probably the
Speaker 5: least fuckular platform in my mind. So well, I don't
Speaker 5: think anyone else noticed.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's the funny thing is they didn't start to notice
Speaker 2: until a bunch of different people got kicked off, and
Speaker 2: uh and and I mean, nobody cares that I got
Speaker 2: kicked off, but I just founded funny that we were
Speaker 2: all sort of purged again, uh, because we've been purged
Speaker 2: in groups before. And that's the funny thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: you've had different people that you could consider colleagues in
Speaker 2: this at different times here, in different eras, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Because how long have you been at this now all together?
Speaker 2: When did you start going out there seriously with the
Speaker 2: Corbett Report? I know I've asked you this question before,
Speaker 2: but just for the record, let's begin from there. When
Speaker 2: did you first start this track that you're on, you know,
Speaker 2: which this has led you to this zen like position.
Speaker 2: And of course you're you're venerated among almost anybody that
Speaker 2: is an independent media guy will bring up your name
Speaker 2: at this point. You're definitely one of the old school guys,
Speaker 2: now right.
Speaker 5: Yes, Well, the website was launched on June first, two
Speaker 5: thousand and seven, or I should say the.
Speaker 4: Website wasn't launched. The podcast.
Speaker 5: The first edition of the podcast came out on June first,
Speaker 5: two thousand and seven. So I have been doing this
Speaker 5: for eighteen years or going on eighteen years now.
Speaker 2: Nice see, I joined you in about two thousand and
Speaker 2: eight or nine, I'm certain of that. But that was
Speaker 2: me just listening to you and just being happy to
Speaker 2: hear somebody doing something different, you know, and that's really
Speaker 2: where it was at at that point. But anyway, have
Speaker 2: you noticed any shifts though, I mean, have you gotten
Speaker 2: some feedback. Do you think that there is a general consensus,
Speaker 2: a general sort of change when it comes to the
Speaker 2: interests of your audience or are they still just, you know,
Speaker 2: pleased with what it is that you're producing and you've
Speaker 2: just gotten lucky in that way that your interests just
Speaker 2: happen to coincide with your supporters.
Speaker 4: You know. It's a good question.
Speaker 5: I would say, I don't think I've noticed an appreciable
Speaker 5: change in the type of feedback that I receive. But
Speaker 5: having said that, I'm not always sure what it is
Speaker 5: precisely that people are interested in my work. Certainly from
Speaker 5: some of the comments on my website, you would think
Speaker 5: that a lot of the people who are commenting are
Speaker 5: people who hate me or my work, or think I've
Speaker 5: totally lost the plot, or which is odd because only
Speaker 5: subscribe paid subscribers.
Speaker 4: Are allowed to comment on my site.
Speaker 5: So but having said that, again, I don't think I've
Speaker 5: seen an appreciable change.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: There is always the madness that happens every few years,
Speaker 5: specifically every four years in the American selection cycle, where
Speaker 5: you know, the latest version of hope and change comes
Speaker 5: along and people get excited or people get offended or whatever,
Speaker 5: and the crazy things happen around those times. But having
Speaker 5: said that, I've lived through enough of those, I won't
Speaker 5: even dignify it by calling it a changeover in power,
Speaker 5: changeover in the face of the puppet that's wearing the
Speaker 5: mask of power?
Speaker 4: Shall we say? Absolutely many times?
Speaker 5: And I would expect at this point I would think
Speaker 5: my audience would be much more shocked if I suddenly
Speaker 5: started getting very excited about some political candidate, rather than
Speaker 5: be me being me and saying, well, I don't really
Speaker 5: trust any of them.
Speaker 2: Right, And again, you know, for context, you begin Bush
Speaker 2: is in office in two thousand and seven, right, So that.
Speaker 5: Is right, you know, And I've noticed some interesting things
Speaker 5: over there in regard to that. One of them is
Speaker 5: that one of the very first things that I really
Speaker 5: remember after I started my going down the rabbit hole
Speaker 5: process in two thousand and six was I remember the
Speaker 5: American midterm selections were taking place in two thousand and six,
Speaker 5: and I remember at that point I was listening to
Speaker 5: these crazy conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones saying these things like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, the Democrats are going to get in and
Speaker 5: they're going to say they're going to start all these
Speaker 5: investigations and subpoenas of you know, Bush and really get
Speaker 5: to the bottom of this, but they're not going to
Speaker 5: it's all theater.
Speaker 4: And then I was listening to the you know.
Speaker 5: The old lefty types of KPFA kind of podcasts and things,
Speaker 5: and they're all saying, well, you know, oh great, now
Speaker 5: Pelosi is gonna really stick it to them and that
Speaker 5: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: So I thought, oh, great a test.
Speaker 5: Here is a little test of where reality actually lies.
Speaker 5: Is this an accurate map of reality or not? And
Speaker 5: I watched as they came in and the very first
Speaker 5: thing I think Pelosi said was well, we're not going
Speaker 5: to prosecute anyone. We're We're not We're not going to
Speaker 5: look backwards or we're going to look forwards or whatever
Speaker 5: she said. At that time, I'm like, oh, okay, so yeah,
Speaker 5: it's right, this is all theater and charade. And from
Speaker 5: that point on I started to become much more realistic
Speaker 5: about what selections were. And I had the experience, as
Speaker 5: you say, in two thousand and seven. When I started,
Speaker 5: obviously Bush was in power. It was the War of
Speaker 5: Terror era at its absolute peak, and I was speaking
Speaker 5: against that. And I remember one of the final videos
Speaker 5: I did of the Bush administration era was talking about
Speaker 5: essentially all of the preparatory framework that had been set
Speaker 5: up for declaring martial law and what that may or
Speaker 5: may not mean if it was to be declared. And
Speaker 5: that particular video went very viral in Democrat circles who
Speaker 5: were freaking out like, oh, you know, Bush might declare
Speaker 5: martial law and to suspend the election or whatever. And
Speaker 5: so that went very viral and got lots of views
Speaker 5: on Huffington Posts and places like that. And then I
Speaker 5: watched as all of those same outlets on once Obama
Speaker 5: was safely ensconced in the puppet oval office, suddenly.
Speaker 4: You know, everything's good again.
Speaker 5: And I watched as all of the left wing sources
Speaker 5: I that had been sticking it to power in the
Speaker 5: Bush administration, like Raw Story and website like that, which
Speaker 5: we're very active back in that time, suddenly became just crickets.
Speaker 5: There was nothing interesting whatsoever coming out of them. And
Speaker 5: suddenly all these right wing outlets were sticking it to
Speaker 5: the administration in power. And so I saw through that game.
Speaker 5: And I've seen this change over happen every four or
Speaker 5: eight years or whatever it is, over and over and
Speaker 5: over Trump Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden to Trump,
Speaker 5: and it's always the same thing. And I to me,
Speaker 5: the only thing that is staggering, truly staggering about any
Speaker 5: of this is that people who are older than me,
Speaker 5: even with more gray hairs, with hairs on their head,
Speaker 5: who have seen this their entire lives, watched as administration
Speaker 5: after administration after administration after administration, their entire lives comes
Speaker 5: in promising hope and change and all of this and
Speaker 5: always fails to deliver spectacularly, have still not caughtoned on
Speaker 5: too how this actually operates, and still get caught up
Speaker 5: in excitement about political candidates. It's and that to me
Speaker 5: is the only thing that's actually shocking about any of
Speaker 5: this at this point.
Speaker 2: Oh no, And it's and you become Yogi Bearra. You know,
Speaker 2: why do I say that because it's DejaVu all over again.
Speaker 3: And what did you have?
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, Bush is going to declare martial law.
Speaker 2: He's not going to let go of the presidency. Toward
Speaker 2: the end of Obama's you know, time in office, either
Speaker 2: at the end of the four years and then really
Speaker 2: loudly at the end of the eight years, the right
Speaker 2: wing conspiracy theorists were screaming that he was going to
Speaker 2: declare martial law to spend the elections. He'd be the
Speaker 2: last president of the United States. Read the Book of Revelations. Okay,
Speaker 2: and you got all that too, I'm sure. Then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, hey, Trump has come in. We have
Speaker 2: a new era, and a whole lot of people that
Speaker 2: I thought had gone through those previous two transitions, uh,
Speaker 2: and understood that the game was rigged, didn't get it,
Speaker 2: and they thought they had a new savior. And then
Speaker 2: he was gone and Biden was back and he stumbled
Speaker 2: through his time and what did we get again? Trump
Speaker 2: is not going to leave now. Some people would say
Speaker 2: that there was evidence that he tried not to leave,
Speaker 2: but others would say it was a you know, a
Speaker 2: normal day in DC, and don't worry about it, and
Speaker 2: I guess it might have been a little less bloodless
Speaker 2: than what goes on in DC normally. Maybe maybe, but
Speaker 2: you know, but still something happened there. But did it
Speaker 2: really make a difference. It's been my mantra over and
Speaker 2: over again. Did this really change your life? And people said, well,
Speaker 2: now with Biden, yeah, we're getting jacked up. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how inflation is treating you in Japan.
Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, I'm hearing from all
Speaker 2: over the world nobody is living anywhere near as cheaply
Speaker 2: as they might have. Everybody's looking back in time and going,
Speaker 2: you know, I miss the old days of this or
Speaker 2: that or the third thing. And everybody's paying through the
Speaker 2: nose just to exist and complaining. So now we have
Speaker 2: Trump's back, He's the new savior again. And I just
Speaker 2: don't get it, man, how is it they keep investing
Speaker 2: in the same thing? And like you said, older people
Speaker 2: than myself not quite getting it. So let's transition into
Speaker 2: something that you and I do pay attention to. You know,
Speaker 2: who cares who's in the office. But how about can
Speaker 2: we have you know, the government files at least on
Speaker 2: the things that we do care about can we have
Speaker 2: some of that stuff? You know where I'm going, which
Speaker 2: is going to be a combination of Epstein and JFK. Now,
Speaker 2: JFK has been a long standing thing for me, and
Speaker 2: I've been discouraged by that community over and over again.
Speaker 2: You know, no matter how involved I get, no matter
Speaker 2: how I try to be cooperative, helpful, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: you know, the same thing keeps happening. But it's weird
Speaker 2: because Trump set out in Executive Order and a whole
Speaker 2: lot of people that I thought knew better got really
Speaker 2: excited once again. Okay, maybe I'm not, you know, all
Speaker 2: in on the political thing, but I care about this
Speaker 2: and other people that cared about the Epstein files. Let's
Speaker 2: get them out there. We need to know the truth.
Speaker 2: This guy hung himself, maybe he didn't hang himself.
Speaker 3: Et cetera. Babblah, Bob Maxwell went to jail. Now nobody
Speaker 3: else is going to jail.
Speaker 2: What in the hell? And you and I had questions
Speaker 2: like that. Now, we didn't necessarily go into it whole
Speaker 2: hog like. Some people made a career out of it, right,
Speaker 2: But we had questions, and I thought they were legitimate
Speaker 2: questions and thought maybe we'd have at least a starting
Speaker 2: point if the government got honest about what they had
Speaker 2: in their hands. Maybe maybe, but we've been disappointed deadlines
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know what your thoughts were
Speaker 2: on the releases of the Epstein Files Phase one, but
Speaker 2: I don't have that many thoughts on it. And the
Speaker 2: JFK thing, yeah, he's passed his deadline now. And if
Speaker 2: you go over to JFK fax Jefferson Morley's site and
Speaker 2: podcast and all that, you'll see that he's got almost
Speaker 2: a death watch thing happening there. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I just got an email before talking to you about
Speaker 2: you know, go and check out the podcast which is,
Speaker 2: you know, a deadline Watch Day forty and it was
Speaker 2: supposed to be a forty five day you know, deadline, right.
Speaker 2: And I say that being somebody who was alive, by
Speaker 2: the way, James, because I'm a little older than you,
Speaker 2: I was alive during the Iran hostage crisis. When people
Speaker 2: start and by the way, that's almost a little what
Speaker 2: would we call that homage at the beginning of my show,
Speaker 2: the fact that I do the day and I tell
Speaker 2: you that you know, something is going on allegedly according
Speaker 2: to the calendar, because Nightline used to start every night
Speaker 2: with its day this of the hostage crisis when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, the Iran hostage crisis. Now you might
Speaker 2: have looked at that historically, but I think you weren't
Speaker 2: quite born yet when that started, right.
Speaker 4: It would have been around that time anyway.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, around that time, so you wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: cognitively aware at all.
Speaker 4: No, I was not following it on the nightly news.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, but I was because I was a nut
Speaker 2: and I was a lonely kid, So you know, I
Speaker 2: did these things.
Speaker 3: My dad want me to read a newspaper when I
Speaker 3: was three, and it's his pro. Okay.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, you know, we have these death
Speaker 2: watches I call them all the time, where we're watching
Speaker 2: on days where things have gone by that you think
Speaker 2: should have been solved. I mean, people were recently watching
Speaker 2: the astronauts up in air and now finally Elon sent
Speaker 2: a rocket, the dragon whatever. So those those people are
Speaker 2: going to get off the iss. I guess that was
Speaker 2: a drama for some.
Speaker 3: I don't know. But what are your thoughts on these files,
Speaker 3: these releases?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 3: You know Trump's gonna do it? Don't worry.
Speaker 2: Trump's gonna do it, and most of his supporter are
Speaker 2: still saying, hold your breath because it's coming. What are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on all that?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: You remember Lucy with the football and Charlie Brown and
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna pull it away this I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: pull it away. No, I'm serious, I'm not gonna pull
Speaker 5: I can't believe you believed I wouldn't pull it away.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be different this year.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard not to laugh.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sorry I interrupted you. It's going to be
Speaker 3: different this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time You're right, Lucy with the football is
Speaker 2: even better.
Speaker 5: But I mean, anyway, I since you bring up JFK
Speaker 5: fax and Jefferson Morley, I'll just point out that it
Speaker 5: was what three weeks ago now he had a post
Speaker 5: up one month later. Trump's interim grade on JFK files
Speaker 5: D plus right, And that's actually a real rubric they
Speaker 5: have A an A grade would be when the JFK
Speaker 5: records are fully released, B when the records are designated
Speaker 5: as a JFK record and prepared for release. C when
Speaker 5: the records are identified as assassination related D when the
Speaker 5: records are subject to any other official attention, and f
Speaker 5: when the files remain redacted or otherwise unavailable. So he
Speaker 5: managed to get a D grade from jfkfax dot org
Speaker 5: for whatever that's worth. But I will also point people
Speaker 5: to Jacob Wordenberger's recent editorial, President Trump, where are those
Speaker 5: long secret JFK records? Where again he's just pointing out that, yeah,
Speaker 5: we still waiting, And he also points out specifically Jefferson
Speaker 5: Morley's now eleven year battle with the CIA over the George,
Speaker 5: Joe and Edes records. And I'll confess I am not
Speaker 5: deep in the weeds of JFK because, as you intimated there,
Speaker 5: I have found the JFK community to be incredibly territorial
Speaker 5: and unwelcoming and do not want new people talking about it. So, okay, guys,
Speaker 5: have fun. So I haven't delved deeply into JFK. I
Speaker 5: know of George, Joe and Edes, but can you explain
Speaker 5: to me what records Jefferson Morley is after here and
Speaker 5: what the significance of those might be.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, George, joh and Edes is somebody who was involved,
Speaker 2: even though they told the CIA don't send us a
Speaker 2: liaison that had any involvement in the Kennedy assassination. For
Speaker 2: the House Select Committee on Assassinations, they sent George Joe
Speaker 2: and Edes, who was clearly a CIA employee, but they've
Speaker 2: tried to hide that ever since. And he manipulated the investigation.
Speaker 2: And that's part of what Jefferson Morley is after. And
Speaker 2: a guy named Brett Kavanaugh actually put that whole thing
Speaker 2: to sleep. That lawsuit is gone, it's over, you know,
Speaker 2: before he joined the Supreme Court. Brett Kavanaugh did that
Speaker 2: by right before.
Speaker 1: In fact.
Speaker 2: Interesting thing there, but one might even speculate that maybe
Speaker 2: that was part of something he had to do to
Speaker 2: get there. I'm not sure. I can't say that for certain,
Speaker 2: but it almost looks that way. And Jacob Warnberger, I
Speaker 2: would advise people to read up on him all the time.
Speaker 2: The Future Freedom Foundation, I definitely you know, received their publications,
Speaker 2: have actually gotten Jacob to us speak at Lancer, you know,
Speaker 2: much like I tried to welcome you in at Lancer
Speaker 2: as much as I could, and I wanted you to
Speaker 2: bring up things, and I welcome you once again if
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to participate over there, because I
Speaker 2: want new voices, I want new people to look at
Speaker 2: this stuff. I want us to make progress, you know.
Speaker 2: But as far as the you know community in quotes, look,
Speaker 2: I totally understand how you can see it's less than inviting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean I invite you, but yes,
Speaker 2: I'm an outlier.
Speaker 5: You are one of the only researchers who has reached
Speaker 5: out to me and tried to include me in things.
Speaker 5: And yeah, a lot of the other community just seems
Speaker 5: to be extremely territorial and more concerned with pointing out
Speaker 5: how everyone else is an agent and only I have
Speaker 5: the facts and right.
Speaker 2: Which is really counterproductive. And as I've tried to state
Speaker 2: many times, although I'm not sure if a nine to
Speaker 2: eleven research community exists anymore, I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: keeping track of any of that, But you know, it
Speaker 2: seems like all those questions have evaporated. Maybe it's just me,
Speaker 2: or maybe people don't want to touch on things that
Speaker 2: have to do with you know, God help us. You
Speaker 2: might wind up being Yemen on the wrong side of
Speaker 2: that if you question Israel at this point, right, And
Speaker 2: I'm not one of these guys who does that constantly,
Speaker 2: and neither of you. But you know what questions do
Speaker 2: come up, okay, not just regarding nine to eleven, but
Speaker 2: regarding a lot of things like why is the US
Speaker 2: government so interested in anyway, I don't want to bring
Speaker 2: you even down that rabbit hole right now because we
Speaker 2: have other things to discuss. And I did find it
Speaker 2: fascinating that you had brought up some interesting new media
Speaker 2: people on a recent Solutions Watch, which is another aspect
Speaker 2: of your website.
Speaker 3: I'd like you to talk about that a little bit, because.
Speaker 2: It's not always demonstration on conspiracy and the news with
Speaker 2: James Corbett, but he actually takes the feedback from people
Speaker 2: and what's happening and offers ideas about how to make
Speaker 2: progress with things.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not.
Speaker 2: That's how I would explain Solutions Watch. Maybe you could
Speaker 2: do better though at explaining it.
Speaker 5: Well that is that is it in a nutshell, So
Speaker 5: let me give you the long winded explanation. Sure, about
Speaker 5: seven years ago, maybe eight years ago now I lose
Speaker 5: track of time. But anyway, several years ago I started
Speaker 5: a weekly podcast called Propaganda Watch on a whim because
Speaker 5: I came across a particularly egregious piece of propaganda, which,
Speaker 5: for the record, was a driverless car commercial from Kia,
Speaker 5: which was just so over the top in its propagandastic
Speaker 5: nature that I thought, I've got to do a video
Speaker 5: exposing this and talking about it and dissecting it. And
Speaker 5: I thought, just on a lark, I thought, you know what,
Speaker 5: I bet yeah, I could do this every week, and
Speaker 5: so I started a Salute Propaganda Watch podcast week after
Speaker 5: week after week after week for I think four years,
Speaker 5: three or four years. I was talking and dissecting various
Speaker 5: pieces of propaganda, and I began to notice, Hey, you
Speaker 5: know what, since I started this Propaganda Watch weekly series
Speaker 5: just on a whim, I.
Speaker 4: Started to notice, Hey, you know what, I actually can.
Speaker 5: Do this Because at first I thought, well, I won't
Speaker 5: have something to talk about every week, No.
Speaker 4: No, no.
Speaker 5: Once I started looking for the propaganda, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: I could do one of these every.
Speaker 4: Day and still have more to talk about, no shortage
Speaker 4: of material. Okay, exactly right.
Speaker 5: But then it occurred to me in two thousand, at
Speaker 5: the end of twenty twenty going into twenty twenty one,
Speaker 5: in the depths of the scandemic, obviously, this is the
Speaker 5: time when I think people are starting to understand a
Speaker 5: thing or two about propaganda, and yes, it's still valuable
Speaker 5: to examine and to dissect and to show people how
Speaker 5: it works and how to guard against it.
Speaker 4: But you know what would be more valuable than that?
Speaker 5: Instead of taking my time and energy and focus and
Speaker 5: focusing on propaganda, why don't I just again on a whim,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm going to start a weekly series
Speaker 5: where I'm looking at solutions and talking about things that
Speaker 5: people can do to change the world for the better.
Speaker 5: And it may be if I start focusing my time
Speaker 5: and energy attention on that, then I can start to
Speaker 5: hopefully draw more energy and attention that way amongst my
Speaker 5: audience as well. And so for now what four years?
Speaker 5: I think this is my fourth year going into solutions
Speaker 5: watch week after week after week, looking at things that
Speaker 5: people can do, sometimes really big, grandiose ideas, sometimes really small,
Speaker 5: simple little things tools that people can use, but different
Speaker 5: things that they can do to start improving the world
Speaker 5: for the better.
Speaker 4: And hey, wouldn't it be better?
Speaker 5: I think if more people in the independent media we're
Speaker 5: focusing more on that what can you do about what
Speaker 5: is happening?
Speaker 4: Rather than simply dwelling on the problem.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the long witted explanation I'm glad you gave it, though,
Speaker 2: because it gives me the thought process behind it, and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm pleased, you know. And what I say is,
Speaker 2: now you might I don't know how you're gonna feel
Speaker 2: about this, but I say, you know, steal from the
Speaker 2: best if you're gonna steal, you know. And I would
Speaker 2: love to see a whole lot of solutions watches out there,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I mean, call it something
Speaker 2: else obviously, but you know, offering solutions is a lot
Speaker 2: better than just bitching about it. I mean, just point
Speaker 2: blank the bitching needs to be done.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, how about what do we
Speaker 2: do with it now? You know, you know you're getting
Speaker 2: fed this stuff. You know it's to control you. You know,
Speaker 2: it's well, what else can we do? Can we change that?
Speaker 2: Can we influence the discussion? Can we you know, offer
Speaker 2: an actual solution. I mean, I loved a thing you
Speaker 2: did years ago, you know, related to you know, this
Speaker 2: online sharing of information where people could build their own car,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a lot of wild stuff. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: you don't like the idea that you're getting charged to
Speaker 2: death because you know they're adding their tariffs and taxes
Speaker 2: onto everything. Gee, that might be relevant today. You know
Speaker 2: you have options offering those options. There are people out
Speaker 2: there interested actively in presenting you with options, you know,
Speaker 2: much like the guys who say, look, you live in
Speaker 2: a city, grow your tomatoes in a bucket. There's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with this, you know, and I think it's an
Speaker 2: excellent use of time and definitely a great feature on
Speaker 2: on your website. So I'm just happy to promote that
Speaker 2: part of it as well. But you've also done some
Speaker 2: long versions of videos and things over the years. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've been releasing those so much lately,
Speaker 2: because it's difficult for me to find your videos unless
Speaker 2: I go straight to your website. So I you know,
Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to you exclusively all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm not like a rabid follower yours, but always you
Speaker 2: come up when I go searching things, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And so I know you're still in the
Speaker 2: same kind of thought bubble that I'm in, I guess,
Speaker 2: but but again you're more zen like.
Speaker 3: So anyway, enough of that.
Speaker 2: What what what is the most recent longer video offering
Speaker 2: you've come up with?
Speaker 3: And why?
Speaker 4: Good question?
Speaker 5: Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by
Speaker 5: video offering, because for example, Solutions Watch as a video series,
Speaker 5: or New World Next Week that I do with James
Speaker 5: Van Plato, Medium Monarchy, dot coms of video series, et cetera,
Speaker 5: et cetera, do interviews and other such things. But if
Speaker 5: you mean the sort of the podcast Deep Dives, you
Speaker 5: are correct. I have not done many podcasts this year
Speaker 5: so far, just a couple, and that is for a
Speaker 5: number of reasons, one of which is I have been
Speaker 5: busier than I have ever been in my entire life
Speaker 5: over the course of the past few months, getting a
Speaker 5: various ducks in a row, including, by the way, launching
Speaker 5: a new book that Hey, I've been working on a
Speaker 5: book for fifteen years and I just launched it. So
Speaker 5: that has been an incredible well, I won't say drain
Speaker 5: on my time because that gives that makes it sound negative. No,
Speaker 5: I mean it's been a wonderful thing, but it's been
Speaker 5: a lot of work and effort. So I have not
Speaker 5: been doing those types of videos as much lately. But
Speaker 5: I am I will let you and your audience know
Speaker 5: as a little exclusive sneak peak here, I am working
Speaker 5: on a longer documentary style podcast video on a editorial
Speaker 5: series that I wrote, I guess a couple of years
Speaker 5: ago now at this point on dissent into madness. That's
Speaker 5: dis s e n descent into madness. That's about the
Speaker 5: pathologization of dissent, as in dissenters and political dissidents are
Speaker 5: crazy and what do we do about this problem? And that's,
Speaker 5: as you might imagine, a very fruitful topic and there's
Speaker 5: many different ways to explore that. So I did an
Speaker 5: editorial series a couple of years ago on that, and
Speaker 5: I'm working with a video editor, extraordinary Brock west on
Speaker 5: developing that into a documentary style presentation that is looking
Speaker 5: at amazing. Brock is just doing an incredible job on it.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to release it, but it takes it's
Speaker 5: taking a long time because we've got so much else
Speaker 5: going on at the moment as well.
Speaker 2: Well, Right, I mean, look, I proposed a few years ago.
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to do it because it might have maybe
Speaker 2: shined the light in places they didn't want it to go.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to talk about even the old media
Speaker 2: again I hate to use the phrase, but again the
Speaker 2: indie media, right, and the strange like denial or fascination
Speaker 2: or or even in some cases fetishization of people's various
Speaker 2: mental disorders that are apparent you know, in the media. Okay,
Speaker 2: And nobody wanted to bite on that one because it's
Speaker 2: pretty strange. But people that get very passionate about anything,
Speaker 2: quite often passion and madness intersect. And I've taken notice
Speaker 2: of that again with the many different trips around with
Speaker 2: people who have come into the podcast world. You know,
Speaker 2: at a certain point when that was a little less accessible,
Speaker 2: it always seemed like a lot of people would come
Speaker 2: in and burn out very quickly. They were very passionate
Speaker 2: at first, and they would burn right the hell out,
Speaker 2: And a lot of times the denial here was that, look,
Speaker 2: a lot of times people that are passionate are not
Speaker 2: well balanced.
Speaker 3: You know, It's just a fact of life.
Speaker 2: So being a political dissident, I can see where that
Speaker 2: rabbit trail has to go to the very same sort
Speaker 2: of extremes, right, I mean, when you have a passion
Speaker 2: about something that automatically includes you know, when that passion
Speaker 2: runs hot, it is not balanced.
Speaker 3: It just isn't.
Speaker 2: And that can be productive or can be counterproductive, depending, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's an exploration in and of itself.
Speaker 5: I certainly wouldn't deny that, but that is not to
Speaker 5: be clear, that is not actually the topic that I'm
Speaker 5: looking I'm looking at the way that psychology has been
Speaker 5: essentially wielded as a weapon because I think people are
Speaker 5: not consciously aware enough about how disorders are, for example,
Speaker 5: classified as disorders, like the creation of the opposition defiant
Speaker 5: disorder oppositional defiant disorder, which was created in one of
Speaker 5: the most recent dsms, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual that is,
Speaker 5: the Bible of Psychological Diagnostics from the American Psychiatric Association,
Speaker 5: that created this whole category of ODED oppositional defiant disorder.
Speaker 5: For example, young children who don't do what they're told
Speaker 5: by authority figures or put up a resistance now can
Speaker 5: be diagnosed with ODD and of course medicated. And of
Speaker 5: course it gets I mean, that's as pretty dark, but
Speaker 5: it gets even darker when you start looking at the ways.
Speaker 5: For example, people have been investigated for psychological put in
Speaker 5: actual psychological detainment against their will, for example, raising questions
Speaker 5: about nine to eleven like I do, like you do,
Speaker 5: like many other people out there do. But if you
Speaker 5: are in the wrong circumstance and the wrong time, you
Speaker 5: could literally be held against your will and force medicated
Speaker 5: as a result of that. And that's really the dark
Speaker 5: side of this that I think we need to start
Speaker 5: looking at, because again, it is a political process to
Speaker 5: decide who is quote unquote crazy. I think we can
Speaker 5: all understand there are ways of the world that are,
Speaker 5: shall we say, less productive than others, and that may
Speaker 5: be more disruptive than others, but at any rate, it
Speaker 5: can be a fine line. And certainly that line is
Speaker 5: wielded by authoritarians to classify anyone who disagrees with them
Speaker 5: or would buck their system as insane, and I think
Speaker 5: we need to definitely push back against that as strongly
Speaker 5: as possible, because ultimately, I think we all know we
Speaker 5: will all be put in that basket if and when
Speaker 5: the authoritarians really close down the system to the extent
Speaker 5: that they want.
Speaker 2: Well, see, now there is you're going after the even deeper,
Speaker 2: darker truth, which is the pseudoscience that has been applied
Speaker 2: here to this thing we call psychology, or the psychological
Speaker 2: industrial complex, which includes the you know again, the profiting
Speaker 2: by big pharma with the medications, the reclassifications of things,
Speaker 2: the DSM manipulation, which has been political. I mean a
Speaker 2: lot of people like to point to the you know,
Speaker 2: the change from homosexuality to from a mental discs order
Speaker 2: to something else when it comes to psychology. But I
Speaker 2: think they're looking in the wrong direction. They're not understanding
Speaker 2: that these expansive definitions do end up encompassing. You know, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're trying to help out the kids, but even one
Speaker 2: could say the spectrum right of illnesses that they say
Speaker 2: come off of things like autism is definitely something that
Speaker 2: can easily be weaponized. And I've known people that have
Speaker 2: had this turned against them one way or another. You know,
Speaker 2: you get enough people being able to, you know, take
Speaker 2: your freedom away, they can do that against your will
Speaker 2: quite often.
Speaker 3: You don't have to commit a crime.
Speaker 2: You could be deemed as you know, a troubled person,
Speaker 2: as someone who is dangerous to themselves or others. Right,
Speaker 2: And this is something that I think is a much
Speaker 2: ignored weapon that the establishment has. Forget about any political persuasion,
Speaker 2: but the establishment has that is constantly morphing again through
Speaker 2: political decisions about reclassifying and redefining all kinds of things.
Speaker 3: Like you said, odd is.
Speaker 2: A great example of that actually and the force medications afterwards.
Speaker 2: I mean there's oh man, you're taking on a big,
Speaker 2: big subject here.
Speaker 5: It gets extremely dark, and especially when you start looking
Speaker 5: at the history of some of the people, for example,
Speaker 5: the founding director of the World Health Organization and other
Speaker 5: people who were writing openly about the need to engineer
Speaker 5: society and to deploy psychiatrists and psychologists in order to
Speaker 5: do so. So this is definitely part of a much
Speaker 5: deeper and darker agenda. Just on that note of for example,
Speaker 5: autism and the way that that is now wielded as
Speaker 5: a cudgel in various debates and conversations, I will note
Speaker 5: that Kate Ledegar at Here Come the Meat Bastards on
Speaker 5: Substack has a series of podcasts. She's done a number
Speaker 5: of conversations with a self identified autistic person, Michelle Horsley,
Speaker 5: and they've talked about the way that autism has been
Speaker 5: portrayed in the media and the way that it has
Speaker 5: been mis represented in order essentially to denigrate and or
Speaker 5: marginalize a large group of people who are not exactly
Speaker 5: as they are portrayed in popular media and popular culture,
Speaker 5: and that again people may or may not understand the
Speaker 5: greater political significance of this until it affects them directly.
Speaker 5: And unfortunately, more and more and more and more of
Speaker 5: the population, certainly in America at any rate, is on medication,
Speaker 5: psychological medications of one form or another. And you know,
Speaker 5: the craziest part about that, perhaps is that, oh, by
Speaker 5: the way, most of these medications are totally voodoo nonsense
Speaker 5: that have been There is no known method of what
Speaker 5: you say, efficacy. There's no known reason why these work.
Speaker 5: Because the brain chemical imbalance theory of psychological disorders has
Speaker 5: been debunked. I don't know if people know this. It
Speaker 5: was never actually verified, it was never true. It's just
Speaker 5: been popularly understood. Oh yeah, there's some kind of brain
Speaker 5: chemical imbalance. You just take a pill and it'll put
Speaker 5: your brain back in order or something along those lines.
Speaker 5: Not even not even the APA or anyone actually posits
Speaker 5: that theory at this point, but still that's the one
Speaker 5: that most people tend to believe.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a deep, dark, crazy subject.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, generally accepted. And I could tell you from
Speaker 2: a personal situation. I was sort of a juvenile delinquent.
Speaker 2: I know that's hard to believe, right, but anyway, I
Speaker 2: was sort of a juvenile delinquent, and at a certain
Speaker 2: point there was a controversy over whether to basically forcefully
Speaker 2: tell me that I was going to have to take
Speaker 2: prozac as a as a method for you know, controlling
Speaker 2: curbing my behavior. Supposedly right, And teenagers were definitely not
Speaker 2: supposed to have this stuff, certain things that were you know,
Speaker 2: kind classified as what we would call today SSRIs. Teenagers
Speaker 2: were not supposed to get it because it was meant
Speaker 2: it was detrimental to their development.
Speaker 3: But in extreme cases they could give it right. And
Speaker 3: that changed, by.
Speaker 2: The way, now I see that there are you know,
Speaker 2: five year olds getting these medications that they were saying
Speaker 2: only maybe fifteen, twenty years ago, maybe thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Some of these things were invented quite a while ago.
Speaker 2: Even though they've been repurposed over and over again. These
Speaker 2: things are solutions that were not supposed to be available
Speaker 2: to developing brains. And I don't know when that argument
Speaker 2: even switched. To be honest with you, it's now become
Speaker 2: like normal to give people. When I take a look
Speaker 2: at the chemical components and some of these medications that
Speaker 2: people that personally described to me have been prescribed to
Speaker 2: their children. I look at this stuff, and I go,
Speaker 2: these are components that you could easily make in a methamphetamy.
Speaker 2: You understand that, right, They're only a hop, skip and
Speaker 2: a jump from this danger chemical cocktail. They are this
Speaker 2: dangerous chemical cocktail. And I just pointed out to them that,
Speaker 2: you know, take a look at the components they're telling
Speaker 2: you are in these things. Forget about the results that
Speaker 2: haven't been tested and haven't been tested and you know,
Speaker 2: actually run through a good process for efficacy. Just take
Speaker 2: a look at the chemical components and tell me this
Speaker 2: doesn't make you a little nervous. It's a very weird,
Speaker 2: dark world of stuff going on there. And I, man,
Speaker 2: I am looking very forward to how you are going
Speaker 2: to make sense of this and streamline this. This is
Speaker 2: this has got to be a tough project to do.
Speaker 4: It certainly is.
Speaker 5: Luckily most of my tough work on this is now over.
Speaker 5: I've written it, I've recorded it. In fact, we recorded it.
Speaker 5: Brock was out here in Japan last year to record it.
Speaker 5: So it's already been recorded. It's just the process of
Speaker 5: putting it all together and editing it and making it
Speaker 5: all flow. So anyway, at any rate it's coming along,
Speaker 5: it'll be out in the hopefully not.
Speaker 4: Too distant future. I hope people stay tuned for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And look, before we run out of time. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, please do tell us about the book, because yeah,
Speaker 2: you're you're the kind of guy who I would have
Speaker 2: figured would have written.
Speaker 3: A book first. Yeah, right, like I always get that.
Speaker 3: I always get that crap too.
Speaker 2: By the way, It's like, you know, when when people
Speaker 2: talk to me about the JFK stuff or whatever, they go,
Speaker 2: where's your JFK book? I go, I don't have one,
Speaker 2: and they go, that's weird, Like they expect a guy
Speaker 2: like me to have, you know, a couple of books out.
Speaker 2: I have one written, I just haven't quite completed it
Speaker 2: or run it through the people that.
Speaker 3: I want to run it through.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I've done it backwards in a lot of
Speaker 2: people's estimation, and I bet you a lot of people
Speaker 2: think you did too. But tell us about what's in
Speaker 2: the book and why it is you decide to come
Speaker 2: out with it now, because you know there are going
Speaker 2: to be the naysayers out there. Were going to say, James, look,
Speaker 2: you're you're somebody who's on the Uh you know on
Speaker 2: the front line of information distribution. Why are you going
Speaker 2: back to a dinosaur and obsolete almost uh method for
Speaker 2: distributing your your your wisdom, your knowledge, your research, the
Speaker 2: things that you have learned. You're going to redistribute them
Speaker 2: in a book form. So if you could tell me
Speaker 2: about why a book and then tell me about what's
Speaker 2: in the book, if you wouldn't mind.
Speaker 5: You know, I am gratified to say I have not
Speaker 5: had that piece of feedback from literally anyone yet, so
Speaker 5: oh goody. I'm not sure my audience is particularly primed
Speaker 5: for the idea that physical media is generally speaking a
Speaker 5: better thing than digital media, precisely because I think my
Speaker 5: audience is well aware of the fact that digital media
Speaker 5: is of course prone to the memory holding, a phenomenon
Speaker 5: that has taken place on the Internet in the past
Speaker 5: well and certainly.
Speaker 3: Real quickly, yeah, real quickly.
Speaker 2: More than a decade ago, you and I had the
Speaker 2: conversation about digital book burning, where both of us stated
Speaker 2: it is a way better idea to have a physical
Speaker 2: damn book in your hand than to trust that your
Speaker 2: kindle is going to have the same version of whatever
Speaker 2: five years from now, five minutes from now, or if
Speaker 2: that book will no longer exist in its digital form,
Speaker 2: don't do that. If you think it's valuable, get it
Speaker 2: in your hands and put it on your shelf.
Speaker 3: For better or worse.
Speaker 2: At least you have something nobody can edit again, So right,
Speaker 2: I mean you still stand by that idea, I.
Speaker 4: Think, yeah, of course absolutely.
Speaker 5: And again it was one of those ironies that one
Speaker 5: of the first big stories about the Kindle memory holding
Speaker 5: a book was literally nineteen eighty four. Yes, there was
Speaker 5: somebody I guess had published an unauthorized, you know, non
Speaker 5: copyright compliant version of nineteen eighty four via Amazon and
Speaker 5: the Kindle Store, so they had to literally take it
Speaker 5: off of everyone's Kindle, which.
Speaker 4: I mean that says something.
Speaker 5: Anyway, that's a nice little factoid to keep in mind
Speaker 5: about the the well the non reality of digital media.
Speaker 4: Shall we say so?
Speaker 5: Anyway, Yes, a book is good for that reason, and
Speaker 5: I think my audience understands it. But this is something
Speaker 5: that I the crazy part about this is exactly as
Speaker 5: you say. I think people are thinking, haven't you written
Speaker 5: a book? Why haven't you written a book? And it's
Speaker 5: that's particularly relevant in my case because I think, first
Speaker 5: and foremost I am a writer, and that's what I've
Speaker 5: always wanted to be. That's what I've always done. And
Speaker 5: I think of even my podcast and things. I think
Speaker 5: of it as sort of like writing an essay. You
Speaker 5: have a thesis and then you have the various things
Speaker 5: that support that and you have a conclusion.
Speaker 4: It's structured in the same way. It's just a different medium.
Speaker 5: But fundamentally, I've always been interested in words and writing
Speaker 5: and language and literature. So I actually started this broup
Speaker 5: book project in two thousand and nine. I've literally it's
Speaker 5: taken now sixteen years to get it into reality, but
Speaker 5: now it exists, and it's called Reportage Essays on the
Speaker 5: New World Order. It's a series of twenty essays on
Speaker 5: various aspects of the types of subjects that I talk
Speaker 5: about at the corp of report history, philosophy, science, et cetera, politics, what, geopolitics,
Speaker 5: and the like, touching on that question of the new
Speaker 5: World Order from many different aspects, and I hope together
Speaker 5: they actually come towards something approaching, if not a definition,
Speaker 5: at least a better understanding of that term new World
Speaker 5: Order and what it might mean.
Speaker 2: Right Reportage I like, I like that title and I
Speaker 2: was going to bring that out too, but I just
Speaker 2: wanted to turn you over and explain you have you
Speaker 2: explain why book?
Speaker 3: Why now?
Speaker 2: So I think we got a perfect explanation of that.
Speaker 2: So look, again, I don't want to take up too
Speaker 2: much of your time, but I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 2: you carved out an hour for me, because man, oh man,
Speaker 2: it is good to speak to someone who is rather
Speaker 2: salient about the points they want to make and takes
Speaker 2: the time to do the research, which is something that
Speaker 2: you will find at corporatereport dot com. And again, if
Speaker 2: you didn't know that already, I don't know how to
Speaker 2: help you. I mean, I don't know how I found
Speaker 2: my show, but you know, using anything you want, if
Speaker 2: you go to corportreport dot com, that's that's your main hub,
Speaker 2: and that'll exist for as long as I guess you
Speaker 2: do this. And I'm definitely going to get a copy
Speaker 2: of your book. I certainly want to get a physical
Speaker 2: copy of it. Is it available through any special place
Speaker 2: that we should go to better than the Amazon hub
Speaker 2: or what.
Speaker 4: The best place to go?
Speaker 5: Go to reportage book dot com and you will be
Speaker 5: able to find the book in all of its many forms.
Speaker 5: But It is available absolutely anywhere, including Amazon if you
Speaker 5: so desire, but it's basically distributed everywhere, and more importantly
Speaker 5: on reportage book dot com. There is the ISBN number,
Speaker 5: and with that number you will be able to order
Speaker 5: it literally anywhere from any bookstore. You could go to
Speaker 5: your bookstore or your library and say, hey, guys, can
Speaker 5: you get this book? And they will be able to
Speaker 5: order it for you if that's the way you want
Speaker 5: to do it.
Speaker 4: And why not.
Speaker 5: If there are actual brick and order bookstores that still exist,
Speaker 5: why not support them?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I would if I had one near me, I try.
Speaker 2: I'd literally support a couple over the internet, you know,
Speaker 2: even a bookshop dot Org. I go to anything to
Speaker 2: try and avoid, you know, giving the big businesses any
Speaker 2: any more money than I have to. Uh, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But that's one of my decisions I make right. And
Speaker 2: that's one of those things you talk about too, is
Speaker 2: you know, voting with your resources and your dollars. And
Speaker 2: I did say resources first. It doesn't necessarily have to
Speaker 2: be dollars. You could be listening somewhere else, but it
Speaker 2: is what it is, your resources, your energy. You can
Speaker 2: choose where to direct it. So yeah, so reportage book
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 3: Or org I forget now dot com dot com.
Speaker 2: Okay, reportage book dot com.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure that's in the show notes, along
Speaker 2: with a link to obviously corporate report dot com. But
Speaker 2: is there anything else you'd like to say? Kind of
Speaker 2: been closing. Uh, this will be our last time speaking
Speaker 2: on Skype. Do you want to say a farewell to Skype?
Speaker 5: Thanks for the memory, bro Well, I don't think I
Speaker 5: have much to say about that, other than to say
Speaker 5: I think what we have talked about today is incredibly
Speaker 5: important because it gets to some of the foundational issues
Speaker 5: like the political side show that is used to distract
Speaker 5: us from real issues like Hey, jfk Epstein, MLK RFK,
Speaker 5: Malcolm X. How about all of these investigations that can
Speaker 5: and should be followed through on I know they're not
Speaker 5: quite as old, courant or exciting as some of the others,
Speaker 5: but I think incredibly important pieces of history that have
Speaker 5: been included from us, and there are a lot of
Speaker 5: ways that we are being manipulated, including psychological and others.
Speaker 5: So I hope people will follow some of the threads
Speaker 5: of this conversation back to some of the sources and
Speaker 5: contemplate this in greater detail because there's a lot more
Speaker 5: to say on each one of these subjects.
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, signing up at Corporate
Speaker 2: Report dot com, even if you just go over there
Speaker 2: for solutions watch, you are getting your money's worth easily,
Speaker 2: you know. And New World next week, you know. I
Speaker 2: meant to bring that up as well. You brought it up.
Speaker 2: But that how long has that series been going with
Speaker 2: you and James Evan Plato from mediamonarchy dot com.
Speaker 3: That's been a while too. That's got to be more
Speaker 3: than a decade.
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely.
Speaker 5: We started in October two thousand and nine, so we're
Speaker 5: approaching sixteenth year. And on our decade anniversary that would
Speaker 5: have been twenty nineteen, James and Platta was out here
Speaker 5: in Japan, and so we recorded a tenth anniversary special
Speaker 5: talk there in person, the first time we'd met the
Speaker 5: only time we'd met really in real life so far, right, But.
Speaker 3: You guys have met hundreds of times now on video.
Speaker 5: And thousands maybe, Yeah, at any rate, more than I
Speaker 5: probably talked to my family members back in Canada.
Speaker 4: I talked to James V. Plato in America. So there
Speaker 4: you go, oh, you know.
Speaker 2: That's my last question for you, actually is since you
Speaker 2: are a you know, you were born in Canada. I
Speaker 2: don't know how much you know, you're whatever, your nationalistic
Speaker 2: tendencies caused you to take a look at anything regarding
Speaker 2: Canada anymore. But you have any thoughts on the supposed
Speaker 2: regime change, or the tariffs or the you know.
Speaker 3: Canadians booing us at hockey games.
Speaker 2: They keep showing us on the US media here, you
Speaker 2: have any thoughts on any of that before we close out?
Speaker 2: Just as a final sort of like adendum to.
Speaker 5: This, I do, and for people who want more info
Speaker 5: on that will we recently covered it on New World
Speaker 5: next week. Essentially, yes, the ostensible regime change question quotation
Speaker 5: marks that has happened in Canada will not really, if anything,
Speaker 5: is actually even worse for Canada under Carney than it
Speaker 5: was under Trudeau, because as bad and contemptible and risible
Speaker 5: as Trudeau was and is, he truly was nothing more
Speaker 5: than a puppet affront for powers that shouldn't be You
Speaker 5: will note that he was not a member of the
Speaker 5: Young Global Leaders program of the World Economic for him,
Speaker 5: but as Klaus Schwab famously said, well, they cannot relate.
Speaker 5: It is a cabinet of Trudeau and all of his
Speaker 5: All of the positions in the Trudeau government were essentially
Speaker 5: staffed by w AF globalist people. Trudeau was just the face,
Speaker 5: the puppet that was dangled out. Carney, however, is funny.
Speaker 5: He portrays himself as a political outsider because he's never
Speaker 5: been selected for any office. Interestingly, though, he is the
Speaker 5: absolute globalist insider extraordinaire builderberg R I i a a
Speaker 5: ka Chatham House, the British secret society that well that
Speaker 5: really spawned the CFR. He was Bank of England, Bank
Speaker 5: of Canada. He started out in Goldman Sachs. He is
Speaker 5: absolutely as globalist as they come. And unfortunately I don't
Speaker 5: think he is just a front for power. I think
Speaker 5: he he has malevum malicious intentions of his own. He
Speaker 5: might be on the way out the door, though, but whatever,
Speaker 5: that's internal Canadian politics and who who.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if he even Canadians care
Speaker 4: that much.
Speaker 5: But if people want to know about the trade wars,
Speaker 5: I also recently wrote an editorial specifically on that topic,
Speaker 5: and unfortunately it's pretty bleak because I liken it to
Speaker 5: the nineteen thirties tariffs and trade wars and currency devaluations
Speaker 5: and other such jockeying that we saw in the lead
Speaker 5: up to World War Two, which of course was a
Speaker 5: foundational cornerstone for the new World order that resulted in
Speaker 5: the nineteen forties that we've been living under the shadow
Speaker 5: of for the past seventy eighty years. Well, I think
Speaker 5: a new new world order is due to arrive very soon,
Speaker 5: and there's nothing like trade wars that lead to real
Speaker 5: hot wars to make that happen. So the outlook is
Speaker 5: not looking great for the coming years.
Speaker 2: And you're definitely not looking forward to your native born
Speaker 2: country becoming the fifty first state.
Speaker 5: I guess, huh, I must admit, no, I am. I'm
Speaker 5: not looking forward to getting an American passport or however
Speaker 5: that works. However, but then again, I'm really only Canadian
Speaker 5: in paper only at this point, so I don't know
Speaker 5: what it means.
Speaker 2: Look tongue in cheek there. I had to do it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't help myself, but I had to bring it up.
Speaker 2: And look, if I had somebody on here from Greenland,
Speaker 2: i'd do the same thing. But you know, and do
Speaker 2: we even need the Panama Canal. I don't think most
Speaker 2: of our you know, newer ships can even.
Speaker 3: Pass through it. But that's okay.
Speaker 4: We can just well be very careful with that.
Speaker 5: We because as it turns out, Me and America first
Speaker 5: actually means Blackrock first, because, as you may or may
Speaker 5: not have heard, Blackrock led the consortium. In fact, Larry
Speaker 5: Think personally got on the phone with Trump within days
Speaker 5: of him taking office saying.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know that Panama Canal thing.
Speaker 5: We will buy out the Chinese operation that owns the ports,
Speaker 5: the control access to the canal, and Trump was all
Speaker 5: on board, and Blackrock has led the consortium to buy
Speaker 5: it away from the chicoms. Yay, raw raw America, by
Speaker 5: which I mean raw Rock Blackrock.
Speaker 2: Right, And there's your final bleak thought for this discussion.
Speaker 2: Thank you James for coming on with me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And again, go to Corbett Report dot com follow up
Speaker 2: on James's work, because he's following up on his own
Speaker 2: work and all the events that are unfolding. And I
Speaker 2: loved his his very brief but perfectly stated salient point
Speaker 2: about Canada and the alleged regime change and all that
Speaker 2: as it goes forward and remember this. You know the
Speaker 2: faces changed, but I don't know the old boss the
Speaker 2: new boss. I'm mixing it all up.
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