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<v Speaker 1>Ready, get ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteenth day of March twenty twenty five, allegedly according to

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<v Speaker 2>that thing we call a calendar. And yeah, I'm broadcasting

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<v Speaker 2>live on a Sunday, which I usually don't do.

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<v Speaker 3>So special treat for those of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hanging around on the Ocelli dot com stream twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, but most of you will be hearing this

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<v Speaker 2>in a podcast form later. Happy to do this one, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I did another recording earlier on a Sunday and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>announce that one at all and just barely squeaked out

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<v Speaker 2>a tweet. I take a couple of minutes ago to

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<v Speaker 2>let people know that I would have James Corbett on

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<v Speaker 2>and why Corbett Report dot Com. Look, if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>aware of James Corbett, welcome to the internet. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to tell you. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>my show and you don't know James Corbett is. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's possible anyway. I've often described him as

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who inspired what it is I do. I've

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<v Speaker 2>definitely been happy to interview him be interviewed by him,

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<v Speaker 2>not only on the JFK subject, which we're gonna touch

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<v Speaker 2>today a little bit here in this quick one hour

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<v Speaker 2>discussion at most. Who knows, maybe James doesn't even have

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<v Speaker 2>an hour for me. We're gonna find out, because he's busy,

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<v Speaker 2>often busy, and I love it because he's been the

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<v Speaker 2>most successful, consistent guy in what used to be called

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<v Speaker 2>alt media, and I don't even like using the phrase anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe we'll touch on that too. So from the

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<v Speaker 2>sunny climes of that part of Japan, how you doing, James.

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<v Speaker 4>I am doing pretty good. Thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, Chuck, I will carve out an

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<v Speaker 5>hour for you because I appreciate what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have always appreciated you.

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<v Speaker 2>But now that we've appreciated each other, let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>the ugly details of what's what, because you've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain and I gotta tell you, I'm having a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time maintaining my desire to continuously cover information that

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<v Speaker 2>is rarefied, all right, and that's kind of what I

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<v Speaker 2>go after. I know in a way you do that

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And we each have our own brand of

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<v Speaker 2>almost libertarian kind of lenses that we place on these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that you and I are even

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<v Speaker 2>similar politically, but we could fall into the same category

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<v Speaker 2>not part of the mainstream. And as I've said before,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of inspired me in a way here. You're

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<v Speaker 2>one of the inspirations for what it is I do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how it is you're keeping it

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<v Speaker 2>up because at this point there is a craziness happening

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<v Speaker 2>here in the US, which I'm sure you're happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be outside of. But there is a new mentality out

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<v Speaker 2>there in media, in communication in oh and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Skype is going to be gone and we're using it

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<v Speaker 2>for today's interview, just letting you guys know. And a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago, I used to have to use a

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<v Speaker 2>landline to call James's radio show that he was doing

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<v Speaker 2>when we did the first two Lee Harvey Oswald interviews,

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<v Speaker 2>which you can still find in the archives acorporate Report

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Anyway, enough bat of my mouth, James, Are

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<v Speaker 2>you having any trouble maintaining your desire to keep digging,

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<v Speaker 2>to keep being something other than the corporate other than

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged indie media out there, which is a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you having any trouble with that or is it

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<v Speaker 3>just me?

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<v Speaker 5>I am not, I would say, because I have achieved

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<v Speaker 5>some zen like state in which I don't really care

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<v Speaker 5>whatever expectations people may or may not have about me,

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<v Speaker 5>or the craziness of the conversation that's going on around me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe that's because I got into this precisely because

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<v Speaker 5>I want to do my own research of things that

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<v Speaker 5>I am interested in and talk about them in my

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<v Speaker 5>own way, and so it doesn't really matter to me

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<v Speaker 5>what other people think about that. The only difference, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose, is that I am supported out of the

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<v Speaker 5>generosity of my listeners. So if they, I guess on

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<v Speaker 5>mass stop supporting my work, I wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 5>do it for a living, but I would still be

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<v Speaker 5>doing research regardless of whether or not I had a website.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I'm just living in the perfect bubble, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, I don't really care what other people are

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just envy this bubble you're in because you've

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<v Speaker 2>described exactly what I think I'm seeing from the outside

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<v Speaker 2>looking at what you're doing. And I got into it

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<v Speaker 2>for the same reason again, because I felt like there

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<v Speaker 2>was something that wasn't being presented out there that I

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna do it. And but but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird, like I've had a serious shift when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to my listeners. Have you had any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>sudden shift in support or sudden shift in a feedback

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<v Speaker 2>from your listeners, Because yes, you are supported by the

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<v Speaker 2>generosity of your listeners, and you can easily sign up

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<v Speaker 2>at court report dot com for as little as a

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<v Speaker 2>dollar a month.

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<v Speaker 4>Still, right, indeed you can, yes, yeah, you certainly can.

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<v Speaker 2>So just saying, you know, even though you've been kicked

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<v Speaker 2>off a Patreon and I don't know why you're banned

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<v Speaker 2>off a rock fin just like me too.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, finding this out, I was told this the

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<v Speaker 5>other day. I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, no, it's and here's the funny thing. You

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<v Speaker 2>hear James laughing and he's like, yeah, I found that

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<v Speaker 2>out the other You know why he's casual about it

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<v Speaker 2>because he's done this before.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, you've been kicked off Claque and was probably the

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<v Speaker 5>least fuckular platform in my mind. So well, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think anyone else noticed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the funny thing is they didn't start to notice

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<v Speaker 2>until a bunch of different people got kicked off, and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and I mean, nobody cares that I got

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off, but I just founded funny that we were

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<v Speaker 2>all sort of purged again, uh, because we've been purged

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<v Speaker 2>in groups before. And that's the funny thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've had different people that you could consider colleagues in

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<v Speaker 2>this at different times here, in different eras, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Because how long have you been at this now all together?

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<v Speaker 2>When did you start going out there seriously with the

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<v Speaker 2>Corbett Report? I know I've asked you this question before,

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<v Speaker 2>but just for the record, let's begin from there. When

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<v Speaker 2>did you first start this track that you're on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which this has led you to this zen like position.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course you're you're venerated among almost anybody that

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<v Speaker 2>is an independent media guy will bring up your name

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. You're definitely one of the old school guys,

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<v Speaker 2>now right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Well, the website was launched on June first, two

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<v Speaker 5>thousand and seven, or I should say the.

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<v Speaker 4>Website wasn't launched. The podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>The first edition of the podcast came out on June first,

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and seven. So I have been doing this

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<v Speaker 5>for eighteen years or going on eighteen years now.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice see, I joined you in about two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>eight or nine, I'm certain of that. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>me just listening to you and just being happy to

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<v Speaker 2>hear somebody doing something different, you know, and that's really

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<v Speaker 2>where it was at at that point. But anyway, have

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<v Speaker 2>you noticed any shifts though, I mean, have you gotten

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<v Speaker 2>some feedback. Do you think that there is a general consensus,

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<v Speaker 2>a general sort of change when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>interests of your audience or are they still just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pleased with what it is that you're producing and you've

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<v Speaker 2>just gotten lucky in that way that your interests just

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<v Speaker 2>happen to coincide with your supporters.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, I don't think I've noticed an appreciable

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<v Speaker 5>change in the type of feedback that I receive. But

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<v Speaker 5>having said that, I'm not always sure what it is

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<v Speaker 5>precisely that people are interested in my work. Certainly from

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<v Speaker 5>some of the comments on my website, you would think

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<v Speaker 5>that a lot of the people who are commenting are

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<v Speaker 5>people who hate me or my work, or think I've

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<v Speaker 5>totally lost the plot, or which is odd because only

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<v Speaker 5>subscribe paid subscribers.

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<v Speaker 4>Are allowed to comment on my site.

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<v Speaker 5>So but having said that, again, I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen an appreciable change.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>There is always the madness that happens every few years,

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<v Speaker 5>specifically every four years in the American selection cycle, where

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the latest version of hope and change comes

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<v Speaker 5>along and people get excited or people get offended or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>and the crazy things happen around those times. But having

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<v Speaker 5>said that, I've lived through enough of those, I won't

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<v Speaker 5>even dignify it by calling it a changeover in power,

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<v Speaker 5>changeover in the face of the puppet that's wearing the

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<v Speaker 4>Shall we say? Absolutely many times?

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<v Speaker 5>And I would expect at this point I would think

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<v Speaker 5>my audience would be much more shocked if I suddenly

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<v Speaker 5>started getting very excited about some political candidate, rather than

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<v Speaker 5>be me being me and saying, well, I don't really

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<v Speaker 5>trust any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And again, you know, for context, you begin Bush

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<v Speaker 5>Is right, you know, And I've noticed some interesting things

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<v Speaker 5>over there in regard to that. One of them is

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<v Speaker 5>that one of the very first things that I really

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<v Speaker 5>remember after I started my going down the rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 5>process in two thousand and six was I remember the

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<v Speaker 5>American midterm selections were taking place in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 5>and I remember at that point I was listening to

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<v Speaker 5>these crazy conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones saying these things like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the Democrats are going to get in and

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to say they're going to start all these

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<v Speaker 5>investigations and subpoenas of you know, Bush and really get

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<v Speaker 5>to the bottom of this, but they're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>it's all theater.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I was listening to the you know.

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<v Speaker 5>The old lefty types of KPFA kind of podcasts and things,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're all saying, well, you know, oh great, now

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<v Speaker 5>Pelosi is gonna really stick it to them and that

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought, oh, great a test.

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<v Speaker 5>Here is a little test of where reality actually lies.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this an accurate map of reality or not? And

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<v Speaker 5>I watched as they came in and the very first

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<v Speaker 5>thing I think Pelosi said was well, we're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to prosecute anyone. We're We're not We're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>she said. At that time, I'm like, oh, okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's right, this is all theater and charade. And from

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<v Speaker 5>that point on I started to become much more realistic

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<v Speaker 5>about what selections were. And I had the experience, as

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<v Speaker 5>you say, in two thousand and seven. When I started,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously Bush was in power. It was the War of

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<v Speaker 5>Terror era at its absolute peak, and I was speaking

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<v Speaker 5>against that. And I remember one of the final videos

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<v Speaker 5>essentially all of the preparatory framework that had been set

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<v Speaker 5>And I've seen this change over happen every four or

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<v Speaker 5>the only thing that is staggering, truly staggering about any

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<v Speaker 5>even with more gray hairs, with hairs on their head,

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<v Speaker 5>after administration after administration after administration, their entire lives comes

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<v Speaker 5>always fails to deliver spectacularly, have still not caughtoned on

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<v Speaker 5>too how this actually operates, and still get caught up

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<v Speaker 5>in excitement about political candidates. It's and that to me

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, And it's and you become Yogi Bearra. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>why do I say that because it's DejaVu all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And what did you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, Bush is going to declare martial law.

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<v Speaker 2>the end of Obama's you know, time in office, either

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<v Speaker 2>wing conspiracy theorists were screaming that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>declare martial law to spend the elections. He'd be the

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<v Speaker 2>last president of the United States. Read the Book of Revelations. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got all that too, I'm sure. Then all

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<v Speaker 2>I thought had gone through those previous two transitions, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and understood that the game was rigged, didn't get it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they thought they had a new savior. And then

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<v Speaker 2>through his time and what did we get again? Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to leave now. Some people would say

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<v Speaker 2>but others would say it was a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>normal day in DC, and don't worry about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it might have been a little less bloodless

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<v Speaker 2>than what goes on in DC normally. Maybe maybe, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but still something happened there. But did it

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<v Speaker 2>really make a difference. It's been my mantra over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again. Did this really change your life? And people said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>now with Biden, yeah, we're getting jacked up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>over the world nobody is living anywhere near as cheaply

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<v Speaker 2>as they might have. Everybody's looking back in time and going,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I miss the old days of this or

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<v Speaker 2>that or the third thing. And everybody's paying through the

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<v Speaker 2>nose just to exist and complaining. So now we have

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's back, He's the new savior again. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it, man, how is it they keep investing

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<v Speaker 2>in the same thing? And like you said, older people

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<v Speaker 2>than myself not quite getting it. So let's transition into

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<v Speaker 2>something that you and I do pay attention to. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>who cares who's in the office. But how about can

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<v Speaker 2>we have you know, the government files at least on

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we do care about can we have

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<v Speaker 2>some of that stuff? You know where I'm going, which

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a combination of Epstein and JFK. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>JFK has been a long standing thing for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been discouraged by that community over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no matter how involved I get, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how I try to be cooperative, helpful, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the same thing keeps happening. But it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>because Trump set out in Executive Order and a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people that I thought knew better got really

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<v Speaker 2>excited once again. Okay, maybe I'm not, you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>in on the political thing, but I care about this

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<v Speaker 2>and other people that cared about the Epstein files. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get them out there. We need to know the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy hung himself, maybe he didn't hang himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Et cetera. Babblah, Bob Maxwell went to jail. Now nobody

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<v Speaker 2>What in the hell? And you and I had questions

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Now, we didn't necessarily go into it whole

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<v Speaker 2>hog like. Some people made a career out of it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But we had questions, and I thought they were legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>questions and thought maybe we'd have at least a starting

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<v Speaker 2>point if the government got honest about what they had

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<v Speaker 2>in their hands. Maybe maybe, but we've been disappointed deadlines

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I don't know what your thoughts were

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<v Speaker 2>on the releases of the Epstein Files Phase one, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have that many thoughts on it. And the

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<v Speaker 2>JFK thing, yeah, he's passed his deadline now. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you go over to JFK fax Jefferson Morley's site and

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and all that, you'll see that he's got almost

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<v Speaker 2>a death watch thing happening there. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got an email before talking to you about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a deadline Watch Day forty and it was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be a forty five day you know, deadline, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say that being somebody who was alive, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, James, because I'm a little older than you,

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<v Speaker 2>I was alive during the Iran hostage crisis. When people

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<v Speaker 2>start and by the way, that's almost a little what

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<v Speaker 2>would we call that homage at the beginning of my show,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that I do the day and I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that you know, something is going on allegedly according

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<v Speaker 2>to the calendar, because Nightline used to start every night

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<v Speaker 2>with its day this of the hostage crisis when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, the Iran hostage crisis. Now you might

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<v Speaker 2>have looked at that historically, but I think you weren't

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been around that time anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, around that time, so you wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>cognitively aware at all.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was not following it on the nightly news.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, but I was because I was a nut

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<v Speaker 2>and I was a lonely kid, So you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>My dad want me to read a newspaper when I

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<v Speaker 3>was three, and it's his pro. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, you know, we have these death

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<v Speaker 2>watches I call them all the time, where we're watching

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<v Speaker 2>on days where things have gone by that you think

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<v Speaker 2>should have been solved. I mean, people were recently watching

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<v Speaker 2>the astronauts up in air and now finally Elon sent

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<v Speaker 2>a rocket, the dragon whatever. So those those people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get off the iss. I guess that was

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<v Speaker 2>a drama for some.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. But what are your thoughts on these files,

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<v Speaker 3>these releases?

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<v Speaker 4>This?

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<v Speaker 3>You know Trump's gonna do it? Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's gonna do it, and most of his supporter are

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<v Speaker 2>still saying, hold your breath because it's coming. What are

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on all that?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>You remember Lucy with the football and Charlie Brown and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna pull it away this I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>pull it away. No, I'm serious, I'm not gonna pull

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<v Speaker 5>I can't believe you believed I wouldn't pull it away.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be different this year.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be hard not to laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm sorry I interrupted you. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every time You're right, Lucy with the football is

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<v Speaker 2>even better.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, anyway, I since you bring up JFK

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<v Speaker 5>fax and Jefferson Morley, I'll just point out that it

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<v Speaker 5>was what three weeks ago now he had a post

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<v Speaker 5>up one month later. Trump's interim grade on JFK files

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<v Speaker 5>D plus right, And that's actually a real rubric they

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<v Speaker 5>have A an A grade would be when the JFK

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<v Speaker 5>records are fully released, B when the records are designated

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<v Speaker 5>as a JFK record and prepared for release. C when

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<v Speaker 5>the records are identified as assassination related D when the

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<v Speaker 5>records are subject to any other official attention, and f

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<v Speaker 5>when the files remain redacted or otherwise unavailable. So he

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<v Speaker 5>managed to get a D grade from jfkfax dot org

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<v Speaker 5>for whatever that's worth. But I will also point people

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<v Speaker 5>to Jacob Wordenberger's recent editorial, President Trump, where are those

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<v Speaker 5>long secret JFK records? Where again he's just pointing out that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we still waiting, And he also points out specifically Jefferson

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<v Speaker 5>Morley's now eleven year battle with the CIA over the George,

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<v Speaker 5>Joe and Edes records. And I'll confess I am not

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<v Speaker 5>deep in the weeds of JFK because, as you intimated there,

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<v Speaker 5>I have found the JFK community to be incredibly territorial

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<v Speaker 5>and unwelcoming and do not want new people talking about it. So, okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>have fun. So I haven't delved deeply into JFK. I

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<v Speaker 5>know of George, Joe and Edes, but can you explain

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<v Speaker 5>to me what records Jefferson Morley is after here and

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<v Speaker 5>what the significance of those might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, George, joh and Edes is somebody who was involved,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they told the CIA don't send us a

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<v Speaker 2>liaison that had any involvement in the Kennedy assassination. For

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<v Speaker 2>the House Select Committee on Assassinations, they sent George Joe

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<v Speaker 2>and Edes, who was clearly a CIA employee, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>tried to hide that ever since. And he manipulated the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's part of what Jefferson Morley is after. And

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<v Speaker 2>a guy named Brett Kavanaugh actually put that whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep. That lawsuit is gone, it's over, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>before he joined the Supreme Court. Brett Kavanaugh did that

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<v Speaker 1>In fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting thing there, but one might even speculate that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>get there. I'm not sure. I can't say that for certain,

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<v Speaker 2>but it almost looks that way. And Jacob Warnberger, I

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<v Speaker 2>would advise people to read up on him all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>The Future Freedom Foundation, I definitely you know, received their publications,

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<v Speaker 2>have actually gotten Jacob to us speak at Lancer, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>much like I tried to welcome you in at Lancer

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I could, and I wanted you to

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<v Speaker 2>bring up things, and I welcome you once again if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to continue to participate over there, because I

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<v Speaker 2>want new voices, I want new people to look at

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. I want us to make progress, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as the you know community in quotes, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand how you can see it's less than inviting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I mean I invite you, but yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an outlier.

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<v Speaker 5>You are one of the only researchers who has reached

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<v Speaker 5>out to me and tried to include me in things.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, a lot of the other community just seems

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<v Speaker 5>to be extremely territorial and more concerned with pointing out

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<v Speaker 5>how everyone else is an agent and only I have

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<v Speaker 5>the facts and right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really counterproductive. And as I've tried to state

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<v Speaker 2>many times, although I'm not sure if a nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven research community exists anymore, I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 2>keeping track of any of that, But you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like all those questions have evaporated. Maybe it's just me,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe people don't want to touch on things that

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with you know, God help us. You

436
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<v Speaker 2>might wind up being Yemen on the wrong side of

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<v Speaker 2>that if you question Israel at this point, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one of these guys who does that constantly,

439
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<v Speaker 2>and neither of you. But you know what questions do

440
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<v Speaker 2>come up, okay, not just regarding nine to eleven, but

441
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<v Speaker 2>regarding a lot of things like why is the US

442
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<v Speaker 2>government so interested in anyway, I don't want to bring

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<v Speaker 2>you even down that rabbit hole right now because we

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<v Speaker 2>have other things to discuss. And I did find it

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating that you had brought up some interesting new media

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<v Speaker 2>people on a recent Solutions Watch, which is another aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of your website.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like you to talk about that a little bit, because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not always demonstration on conspiracy and the news with

450
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<v Speaker 2>James Corbett, but he actually takes the feedback from people

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<v Speaker 2>and what's happening and offers ideas about how to make

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<v Speaker 2>progress with things.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I would explain Solutions Watch. Maybe you could

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<v Speaker 2>do better though at explaining it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that is that is it in a nutshell, So

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<v Speaker 5>let me give you the long winded explanation. Sure, about

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<v Speaker 5>seven years ago, maybe eight years ago now I lose

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<v Speaker 5>track of time. But anyway, several years ago I started

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<v Speaker 5>a weekly podcast called Propaganda Watch on a whim because

461
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<v Speaker 5>I came across a particularly egregious piece of propaganda, which,

462
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<v Speaker 5>for the record, was a driverless car commercial from Kia,

463
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<v Speaker 5>which was just so over the top in its propagandastic

464
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<v Speaker 5>nature that I thought, I've got to do a video

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<v Speaker 5>exposing this and talking about it and dissecting it. And

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, just on a lark, I thought, you know what,

467
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<v Speaker 5>I bet yeah, I could do this every week, and

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<v Speaker 5>so I started a Salute Propaganda Watch podcast week after

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<v Speaker 5>week after week after week for I think four years,

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<v Speaker 5>three or four years. I was talking and dissecting various

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<v Speaker 5>pieces of propaganda, and I began to notice, Hey, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, since I started this Propaganda Watch weekly series

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<v Speaker 5>just on a whim, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Started to notice, Hey, you know what, I actually can.

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<v Speaker 5>Do this Because at first I thought, well, I won't

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<v Speaker 5>have something to talk about every week, No.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no.

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<v Speaker 5>Once I started looking for the propaganda, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I could do one of these every.

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<v Speaker 4>Day and still have more to talk about, no shortage

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<v Speaker 4>of material. Okay, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>But then it occurred to me in two thousand, at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of twenty twenty going into twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 5>in the depths of the scandemic, obviously, this is the

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<v Speaker 5>time when I think people are starting to understand a

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<v Speaker 5>thing or two about propaganda, and yes, it's still valuable

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<v Speaker 5>to examine and to dissect and to show people how

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<v Speaker 5>it works and how to guard against it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what would be more valuable than that?

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<v Speaker 5>Instead of taking my time and energy and focus and

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<v Speaker 5>focusing on propaganda, why don't I just again on a whim,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, I'm going to start a weekly series

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<v Speaker 5>where I'm looking at solutions and talking about things that

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<v Speaker 5>people can do to change the world for the better.

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<v Speaker 5>And it may be if I start focusing my time

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<v Speaker 5>and energy attention on that, then I can start to

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully draw more energy and attention that way amongst my

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<v Speaker 5>audience as well. And so for now what four years?

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is my fourth year going into solutions

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<v Speaker 5>watch week after week after week, looking at things that

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<v Speaker 5>people can do, sometimes really big, grandiose ideas, sometimes really small,

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<v Speaker 5>simple little things tools that people can use, but different

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<v Speaker 5>things that they can do to start improving the world

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<v Speaker 5>for the better.

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<v Speaker 4>And hey, wouldn't it be better?

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<v Speaker 5>I think if more people in the independent media we're

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<v Speaker 5>focusing more on that what can you do about what

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<v Speaker 5>is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Rather than simply dwelling on the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's the long witted explanation I'm glad you gave it, though,

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<v Speaker 2>because it gives me the thought process behind it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm pleased, you know. And what I say is,

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<v Speaker 2>now you might I don't know how you're gonna feel

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<v Speaker 2>about this, but I say, you know, steal from the

515
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<v Speaker 2>best if you're gonna steal, you know. And I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see a whole lot of solutions watches out there,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, I mean, call it something

518
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<v Speaker 2>else obviously, but you know, offering solutions is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>better than just bitching about it. I mean, just point

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<v Speaker 2>blank the bitching needs to be done.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, how about what do we

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<v Speaker 2>do with it now? You know, you know you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>fed this stuff. You know it's to control you. You know,

525
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<v Speaker 2>it's well, what else can we do? Can we change that?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we influence the discussion? Can we you know, offer

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<v Speaker 2>an actual solution. I mean, I loved a thing you

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<v Speaker 2>did years ago, you know, related to you know, this

529
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<v Speaker 2>online sharing of information where people could build their own car,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like a lot of wild stuff. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like the idea that you're getting charged to

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<v Speaker 2>death because you know they're adding their tariffs and taxes

533
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<v Speaker 2>onto everything. Gee, that might be relevant today. You know

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<v Speaker 2>you have options offering those options. There are people out

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<v Speaker 2>there interested actively in presenting you with options, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>much like the guys who say, look, you live in

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<v Speaker 2>a city, grow your tomatoes in a bucket. There's nothing

538
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<v Speaker 2>wrong with this, you know, and I think it's an

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<v Speaker 2>excellent use of time and definitely a great feature on

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<v Speaker 2>on your website. So I'm just happy to promote that

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<v Speaker 2>part of it as well. But you've also done some

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<v Speaker 2>long versions of videos and things over the years. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've been releasing those so much lately,

544
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<v Speaker 2>because it's difficult for me to find your videos unless

545
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<v Speaker 2>I go straight to your website. So I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't pay attention to you exclusively all the time.

547
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like a rabid follower yours, but always you

548
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<v Speaker 2>come up when I go searching things, you know what

549
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, And so I know you're still in the

550
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<v Speaker 2>same kind of thought bubble that I'm in, I guess,

551
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<v Speaker 2>but but again you're more zen like.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, enough of that.

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<v Speaker 2>What what what is the most recent longer video offering

554
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<v Speaker 2>you've come up with?

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<v Speaker 3>And why?

556
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<v Speaker 4>Good question?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by

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<v Speaker 5>video offering, because for example, Solutions Watch as a video series,

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<v Speaker 5>or New World Next Week that I do with James

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<v Speaker 5>Van Plato, Medium Monarchy, dot coms of video series, et cetera,

561
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<v Speaker 5>et cetera, do interviews and other such things. But if

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<v Speaker 5>you mean the sort of the podcast Deep Dives, you

563
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<v Speaker 5>are correct. I have not done many podcasts this year

564
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<v Speaker 5>so far, just a couple, and that is for a

565
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<v Speaker 5>number of reasons, one of which is I have been

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<v Speaker 5>busier than I have ever been in my entire life

567
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<v Speaker 5>over the course of the past few months, getting a

568
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<v Speaker 5>various ducks in a row, including, by the way, launching

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<v Speaker 5>a new book that Hey, I've been working on a

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<v Speaker 5>book for fifteen years and I just launched it. So

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<v Speaker 5>that has been an incredible well, I won't say drain

572
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<v Speaker 5>on my time because that gives that makes it sound negative. No,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's been a wonderful thing, but it's been

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of work and effort. So I have not

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<v Speaker 5>been doing those types of videos as much lately. But

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<v Speaker 5>I am I will let you and your audience know

577
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<v Speaker 5>as a little exclusive sneak peak here, I am working

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<v Speaker 5>on a longer documentary style podcast video on a editorial

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<v Speaker 5>series that I wrote, I guess a couple of years

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<v Speaker 5>ago now at this point on dissent into madness. That's

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<v Speaker 5>dis s e n descent into madness. That's about the

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<v Speaker 5>pathologization of dissent, as in dissenters and political dissidents are

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<v Speaker 5>crazy and what do we do about this problem? And that's,

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<v Speaker 5>as you might imagine, a very fruitful topic and there's

585
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<v Speaker 5>many different ways to explore that. So I did an

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<v Speaker 5>editorial series a couple of years ago on that, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm working with a video editor, extraordinary Brock west on

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<v Speaker 5>developing that into a documentary style presentation that is looking

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<v Speaker 5>at amazing. Brock is just doing an incredible job on it.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm excited to release it, but it takes it's

591
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<v Speaker 5>taking a long time because we've got so much else

592
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<v Speaker 5>going on at the moment as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Right, I mean, look, I proposed a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wanted to do it because it might have maybe

595
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<v Speaker 2>shined the light in places they didn't want it to go.

596
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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to talk about even the old media

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<v Speaker 2>again I hate to use the phrase, but again the

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<v Speaker 2>indie media, right, and the strange like denial or fascination

599
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<v Speaker 2>or or even in some cases fetishization of people's various

600
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<v Speaker 2>mental disorders that are apparent you know, in the media. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody wanted to bite on that one because it's

602
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<v Speaker 2>pretty strange. But people that get very passionate about anything,

603
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<v Speaker 2>quite often passion and madness intersect. And I've taken notice

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<v Speaker 2>of that again with the many different trips around with

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<v Speaker 2>people who have come into the podcast world. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>at a certain point when that was a little less accessible,

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<v Speaker 2>it always seemed like a lot of people would come

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<v Speaker 2>in and burn out very quickly. They were very passionate

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<v Speaker 2>at first, and they would burn right the hell out,

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times the denial here was that, look,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times people that are passionate are not

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<v Speaker 2>well balanced.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, It's just a fact of life.

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<v Speaker 2>So being a political dissident, I can see where that

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit trail has to go to the very same sort

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<v Speaker 2>of extremes, right, I mean, when you have a passion

617
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<v Speaker 2>about something that automatically includes you know, when that passion

618
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<v Speaker 2>runs hot, it is not balanced.

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<v Speaker 3>It just isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And that can be productive or can be counterproductive, depending, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's an exploration in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 5>I certainly wouldn't deny that, but that is not to

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<v Speaker 5>be clear, that is not actually the topic that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>looking I'm looking at the way that psychology has been

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<v Speaker 5>essentially wielded as a weapon because I think people are

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<v Speaker 5>not consciously aware enough about how disorders are, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>classified as disorders, like the creation of the opposition defiant

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<v Speaker 5>disorder oppositional defiant disorder, which was created in one of

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<v Speaker 5>the most recent dsms, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual that is,

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<v Speaker 5>the Bible of Psychological Diagnostics from the American Psychiatric Association,

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<v Speaker 5>that created this whole category of ODED oppositional defiant disorder.

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<v Speaker 5>For example, young children who don't do what they're told

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<v Speaker 5>by authority figures or put up a resistance now can

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<v Speaker 5>be diagnosed with ODD and of course medicated. And of

635
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 5>course it gets I mean, that's as pretty dark, but

636
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 5>it gets even darker when you start looking at the ways.

637
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 5>For example, people have been investigated for psychological put in

638
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 5>actual psychological detainment against their will, for example, raising questions

639
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 5>about nine to eleven like I do, like you do,

640
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 5>like many other people out there do. But if you

641
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 5>are in the wrong circumstance and the wrong time, you

642
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 5>could literally be held against your will and force medicated

643
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 5>as a result of that. And that's really the dark

644
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 5>side of this that I think we need to start

645
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 5>looking at, because again, it is a political process to

646
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 5>decide who is quote unquote crazy. I think we can

647
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 5>all understand there are ways of the world that are,

648
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 5>shall we say, less productive than others, and that may

649
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 5>be more disruptive than others, but at any rate, it

650
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>can be a fine line. And certainly that line is

651
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 5>wielded by authoritarians to classify anyone who disagrees with them

652
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 5>or would buck their system as insane, and I think

653
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 5>we need to definitely push back against that as strongly

654
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 5>as possible, because ultimately, I think we all know we

655
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 5>will all be put in that basket if and when

656
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 5>the authoritarians really close down the system to the extent

657
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 5>that they want.

658
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, see, now there is you're going after the even deeper,

659
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>darker truth, which is the pseudoscience that has been applied

660
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>here to this thing we call psychology, or the psychological

661
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>industrial complex, which includes the you know again, the profiting

662
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 2>by big pharma with the medications, the reclassifications of things,

663
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 2>the DSM manipulation, which has been political. I mean a

664
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>lot of people like to point to the you know,

665
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 2>the change from homosexuality to from a mental discs order

666
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>to something else when it comes to psychology. But I

667
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>think they're looking in the wrong direction. They're not understanding

668
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 2>that these expansive definitions do end up encompassing. You know, Okay,

669
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to help out the kids, but even one

670
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 2>could say the spectrum right of illnesses that they say

671
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 2>come off of things like autism is definitely something that

672
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>can easily be weaponized. And I've known people that have

673
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>had this turned against them one way or another. You know,

674
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>you get enough people being able to, you know, take

675
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>your freedom away, they can do that against your will

676
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 2>quite often.

677
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to commit a crime.

678
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.559
<v Speaker 2>You could be deemed as you know, a troubled person,

679
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 2>as someone who is dangerous to themselves or others. Right,

680
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>And this is something that I think is a much

681
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>ignored weapon that the establishment has. Forget about any political persuasion,

682
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>but the establishment has that is constantly morphing again through

683
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>political decisions about reclassifying and redefining all kinds of things.

684
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Like you said, odd is.

685
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.880
<v Speaker 2>A great example of that actually and the force medications afterwards.

686
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's oh man, you're taking on a big,

687
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 2>big subject here.

688
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 5>It gets extremely dark, and especially when you start looking

689
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 5>at the history of some of the people, for example,

690
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 5>the founding director of the World Health Organization and other

691
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 5>people who were writing openly about the need to engineer

692
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 5>society and to deploy psychiatrists and psychologists in order to

693
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 5>do so. So this is definitely part of a much

694
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 5>deeper and darker agenda. Just on that note of for example,

695
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 5>autism and the way that that is now wielded as

696
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 5>a cudgel in various debates and conversations, I will note

697
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 5>that Kate Ledegar at Here Come the Meat Bastards on

698
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 5>Substack has a series of podcasts. She's done a number

699
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 5>of conversations with a self identified autistic person, Michelle Horsley,

700
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 5>and they've talked about the way that autism has been

701
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.639
<v Speaker 5>portrayed in the media and the way that it has

702
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:09.639
<v Speaker 5>been mis represented in order essentially to denigrate and or

703
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 5>marginalize a large group of people who are not exactly

704
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 5>as they are portrayed in popular media and popular culture,

705
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 5>and that again people may or may not understand the

706
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.400
<v Speaker 5>greater political significance of this until it affects them directly.

707
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 5>And unfortunately, more and more and more and more of

708
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 5>the population, certainly in America at any rate, is on medication,

709
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 5>psychological medications of one form or another. And you know,

710
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 5>the craziest part about that, perhaps is that, oh, by

711
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 5>the way, most of these medications are totally voodoo nonsense

712
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 5>that have been There is no known method of what

713
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 5>you say, efficacy. There's no known reason why these work.

714
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 5>Because the brain chemical imbalance theory of psychological disorders has

715
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 5>been debunked. I don't know if people know this. It

716
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 5>was never actually verified, it was never true. It's just

717
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 5>been popularly understood. Oh yeah, there's some kind of brain

718
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 5>chemical imbalance. You just take a pill and it'll put

719
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 5>your brain back in order or something along those lines.

720
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.000
<v Speaker 5>Not even not even the APA or anyone actually posits

721
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 5>that theory at this point, but still that's the one

722
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 5>that most people tend to believe.

723
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's a deep, dark, crazy subject.

724
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, generally accepted. And I could tell you from

725
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 2>a personal situation. I was sort of a juvenile delinquent.

726
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I know that's hard to believe, right, but anyway, I

727
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>was sort of a juvenile delinquent, and at a certain

728
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:44.159
<v Speaker 2>point there was a controversy over whether to basically forcefully

729
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 2>tell me that I was going to have to take

730
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>prozac as a as a method for you know, controlling

731
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>curbing my behavior. Supposedly right, And teenagers were definitely not

732
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 2>supposed to have this stuff, certain things that were you know,

733
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 2>kind classified as what we would call today SSRIs. Teenagers

734
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.320
<v Speaker 2>were not supposed to get it because it was meant

735
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it was detrimental to their development.

736
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 3>But in extreme cases they could give it right. And

737
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 3>that changed, by.

738
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>The way, now I see that there are you know,

739
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>five year olds getting these medications that they were saying

740
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 2>only maybe fifteen, twenty years ago, maybe thirty years ago.

741
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Some of these things were invented quite a while ago.

742
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Even though they've been repurposed over and over again. These

743
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 2>things are solutions that were not supposed to be available

744
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to developing brains. And I don't know when that argument

745
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>even switched. To be honest with you, it's now become

746
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>like normal to give people. When I take a look

747
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 2>at the chemical components and some of these medications that

748
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>people that personally described to me have been prescribed to

749
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 2>their children. I look at this stuff, and I go,

750
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 2>these are components that you could easily make in a methamphetamy.

751
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>You understand that, right, They're only a hop, skip and

752
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>a jump from this danger chemical cocktail. They are this

753
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 2>dangerous chemical cocktail. And I just pointed out to them that,

754
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, take a look at the components they're telling

755
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you are in these things. Forget about the results that

756
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 2>haven't been tested and haven't been tested and you know,

757
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 2>actually run through a good process for efficacy. Just take

758
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a look at the chemical components and tell me this

759
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make you a little nervous. It's a very weird,

760
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>dark world of stuff going on there. And I, man,

761
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I am looking very forward to how you are going

762
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 2>to make sense of this and streamline this. This is

763
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>this has got to be a tough project to do.

764
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 4>It certainly is.

765
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 5>Luckily most of my tough work on this is now over.

766
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 5>I've written it, I've recorded it. In fact, we recorded it.

767
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 5>Brock was out here in Japan last year to record it.

768
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 5>So it's already been recorded. It's just the process of

769
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 5>putting it all together and editing it and making it

770
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 5>all flow. So anyway, at any rate it's coming along,

771
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:01.000
<v Speaker 5>it'll be out in the hopefully not.

772
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 4>Too distant future. I hope people stay tuned for it.

773
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And look, before we run out of time. Uh,

774
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, please do tell us about the book, because yeah,

775
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you're you're the kind of guy who I would have

776
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>figured would have written.

777
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 3>A book first. Yeah, right, like I always get that.

778
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I always get that crap too.

779
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:18.840
<v Speaker 2>By the way, It's like, you know, when when people

780
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>talk to me about the JFK stuff or whatever, they go,

781
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 2>where's your JFK book? I go, I don't have one,

782
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and they go, that's weird, Like they expect a guy

783
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>like me to have, you know, a couple of books out.

784
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 2>I have one written, I just haven't quite completed it

785
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>or run it through the people that.

786
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I want to run it through.

787
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, I've done it backwards in a lot of

788
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.320
<v Speaker 2>people's estimation, and I bet you a lot of people

789
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>think you did too. But tell us about what's in

790
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the book and why it is you decide to come

791
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 2>out with it now, because you know there are going

792
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.039
<v Speaker 2>to be the naysayers out there. Were going to say, James, look,

793
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>you're you're somebody who's on the Uh you know on

794
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the front line of information distribution. Why are you going

795
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 2>back to a dinosaur and obsolete almost uh method for

796
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>distributing your your your wisdom, your knowledge, your research, the

797
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 2>things that you have learned. You're going to redistribute them

798
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>in a book form. So if you could tell me

799
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 2>about why a book and then tell me about what's

800
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>in the book, if you wouldn't mind.

801
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 5>You know, I am gratified to say I have not

802
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 5>had that piece of feedback from literally anyone yet, so

803
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 5>oh goody. I'm not sure my audience is particularly primed

804
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 5>for the idea that physical media is generally speaking a

805
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 5>better thing than digital media, precisely because I think my

806
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 5>audience is well aware of the fact that digital media

807
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 5>is of course prone to the memory holding, a phenomenon

808
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.840
<v Speaker 5>that has taken place on the Internet in the past

809
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 5>well and certainly.

810
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Real quickly, yeah, real quickly.

811
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>More than a decade ago, you and I had the

812
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>conversation about digital book burning, where both of us stated

813
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>it is a way better idea to have a physical

814
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>damn book in your hand than to trust that your

815
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.519
<v Speaker 2>kindle is going to have the same version of whatever

816
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 2>five years from now, five minutes from now, or if

817
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 2>that book will no longer exist in its digital form,

818
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>don't do that. If you think it's valuable, get it

819
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>in your hands and put it on your shelf.

820
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 3>For better or worse.

821
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 2>At least you have something nobody can edit again, So right,

822
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean you still stand by that idea, I.

823
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 4>Think, yeah, of course absolutely.

824
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 5>And again it was one of those ironies that one

825
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 5>of the first big stories about the Kindle memory holding

826
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 5>a book was literally nineteen eighty four. Yes, there was

827
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 5>somebody I guess had published an unauthorized, you know, non

828
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 5>copyright compliant version of nineteen eighty four via Amazon and

829
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 5>the Kindle Store, so they had to literally take it

830
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 5>off of everyone's Kindle, which.

831
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean that says something.

832
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, that's a nice little factoid to keep in mind

833
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 5>about the the well the non reality of digital media.

834
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Shall we say so?

835
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 5>Anyway, Yes, a book is good for that reason, and

836
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 5>I think my audience understands it. But this is something

837
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:00.199
<v Speaker 5>that I the crazy part about this is exactly as

838
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.639
<v Speaker 5>you say. I think people are thinking, haven't you written

839
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 5>a book? Why haven't you written a book? And it's

840
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 5>that's particularly relevant in my case because I think, first

841
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Speaker 5>and foremost I am a writer, and that's what I've

842
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 5>always wanted to be. That's what I've always done. And

843
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 5>I think of even my podcast and things. I think

844
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 5>of it as sort of like writing an essay. You

845
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<v Speaker 5>have a thesis and then you have the various things

846
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 5>that support that and you have a conclusion.

847
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 4>It's structured in the same way. It's just a different medium.

848
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 5>But fundamentally, I've always been interested in words and writing

849
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.280
<v Speaker 5>and language and literature. So I actually started this broup

850
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 5>book project in two thousand and nine. I've literally it's

851
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 5>taken now sixteen years to get it into reality, but

852
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 5>now it exists, and it's called Reportage Essays on the

853
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 5>New World Order. It's a series of twenty essays on

854
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<v Speaker 5>various aspects of the types of subjects that I talk

855
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:56.880
<v Speaker 5>about at the corp of report history, philosophy, science, et cetera, politics, what, geopolitics,

856
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 5>and the like, touching on that question of the new

857
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 5>World Order from many different aspects, and I hope together

858
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 5>they actually come towards something approaching, if not a definition,

859
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 5>at least a better understanding of that term new World

860
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 5>Order and what it might mean.

861
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<v Speaker 2>Right Reportage I like, I like that title and I

862
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>was going to bring that out too, but I just

863
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>wanted to turn you over and explain you have you

864
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>explain why book?

865
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Why now?

866
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>So I think we got a perfect explanation of that.

867
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So look, again, I don't want to take up too

868
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.679
<v Speaker 2>much of your time, but I appreciate the fact that

869
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you carved out an hour for me, because man, oh man,

870
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it is good to speak to someone who is rather

871
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 2>salient about the points they want to make and takes

872
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the time to do the research, which is something that

873
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>you will find at corporatereport dot com. And again, if

874
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know that already, I don't know how to

875
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>help you. I mean, I don't know how I found

876
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 2>my show, but you know, using anything you want, if

877
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>you go to corportreport dot com, that's that's your main hub,

878
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.559
<v Speaker 2>and that'll exist for as long as I guess you

879
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 2>do this. And I'm definitely going to get a copy

880
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>of your book. I certainly want to get a physical

881
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 2>copy of it. Is it available through any special place

882
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 2>that we should go to better than the Amazon hub

883
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:14.079
<v Speaker 2>or what.

884
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 4>The best place to go?

885
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Go to reportage book dot com and you will be

886
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 5>able to find the book in all of its many forms.

887
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 5>But It is available absolutely anywhere, including Amazon if you

888
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 5>so desire, but it's basically distributed everywhere, and more importantly

889
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:34.000
<v Speaker 5>on reportage book dot com. There is the ISBN number,

890
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 5>and with that number you will be able to order

891
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 5>it literally anywhere from any bookstore. You could go to

892
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 5>your bookstore or your library and say, hey, guys, can

893
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 5>you get this book? And they will be able to

894
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 5>order it for you if that's the way you want

895
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 5>to do it.

896
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 4>And why not.

897
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 5>If there are actual brick and order bookstores that still exist,

898
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 5>why not support them?

899
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

900
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 2>No, I would if I had one near me, I try.

901
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 2>I'd literally support a couple over the internet, you know,

902
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 2>even a bookshop dot Org. I go to anything to

903
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 2>try and avoid, you know, giving the big businesses any

904
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.840
<v Speaker 2>any more money than I have to. Uh, that's for sure.

905
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>But that's one of my decisions I make right. And

906
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 2>that's one of those things you talk about too, is

907
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, voting with your resources and your dollars. And

908
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I did say resources first. It doesn't necessarily have to

909
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>be dollars. You could be listening somewhere else, but it

910
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 2>is what it is, your resources, your energy. You can

911
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>choose where to direct it. So yeah, so reportage book

912
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.519
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

913
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 3>Or org I forget now dot com dot com.

914
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, reportage book dot com.

915
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

916
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make sure that's in the show notes, along

917
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 2>with a link to obviously corporate report dot com. But

918
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 2>is there anything else you'd like to say? Kind of

919
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>been closing. Uh, this will be our last time speaking

920
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 2>on Skype. Do you want to say a farewell to Skype?

921
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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for the memory, bro Well, I don't think I

922
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 5>have much to say about that, other than to say

923
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.119
<v Speaker 5>I think what we have talked about today is incredibly

924
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 5>important because it gets to some of the foundational issues

925
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.320
<v Speaker 5>like the political side show that is used to distract

926
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 5>us from real issues like Hey, jfk Epstein, MLK RFK,

927
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 5>Malcolm X. How about all of these investigations that can

928
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 5>and should be followed through on I know they're not

929
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 5>quite as old, courant or exciting as some of the others,

930
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 5>but I think incredibly important pieces of history that have

931
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 5>been included from us, and there are a lot of

932
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 5>ways that we are being manipulated, including psychological and others.

933
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 5>So I hope people will follow some of the threads

934
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 5>of this conversation back to some of the sources and

935
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 5>contemplate this in greater detail because there's a lot more

936
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.599
<v Speaker 5>to say on each one of these subjects.

937
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:47.920
<v Speaker 2>And I got to tell you, signing up at Corporate

938
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Report dot com, even if you just go over there

939
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 2>for solutions watch, you are getting your money's worth easily,

940
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. And New World next week, you know. I

941
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 2>meant to bring that up as well. You brought it up.

942
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 2>But that how long has that series been going with

943
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 2>you and James Evan Plato from mediamonarchy dot com.

944
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 3>That's been a while too. That's got to be more

945
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 3>than a decade.

946
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Right, absolutely.

947
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 5>We started in October two thousand and nine, so we're

948
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 5>approaching sixteenth year. And on our decade anniversary that would

949
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 5>have been twenty nineteen, James and Platta was out here

950
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 5>in Japan, and so we recorded a tenth anniversary special

951
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 5>talk there in person, the first time we'd met the

952
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.880
<v Speaker 5>only time we'd met really in real life so far, right, But.

953
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 3>You guys have met hundreds of times now on video.

954
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.719
<v Speaker 5>And thousands maybe, Yeah, at any rate, more than I

955
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 5>probably talked to my family members back in Canada.

956
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 4>I talked to James V. Plato in America. So there

957
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 4>you go, oh, you know.

958
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>That's my last question for you, actually is since you

959
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>are a you know, you were born in Canada. I

960
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know how much you know, you're whatever, your nationalistic

961
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>tendencies caused you to take a look at anything regarding

962
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Canada anymore. But you have any thoughts on the supposed

963
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 2>regime change, or the tariffs or the you know.

964
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Canadians booing us at hockey games.

965
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.840
<v Speaker 2>They keep showing us on the US media here, you

966
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 2>have any thoughts on any of that before we close out?

967
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<v Speaker 2>Just as a final sort of like adendum to.

968
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<v Speaker 5>This, I do, and for people who want more info

969
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.719
<v Speaker 5>on that will we recently covered it on New World

970
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 5>next week. Essentially, yes, the ostensible regime change question quotation

971
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 5>marks that has happened in Canada will not really, if anything,

972
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 5>is actually even worse for Canada under Carney than it

973
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 5>was under Trudeau, because as bad and contemptible and risible

974
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 5>as Trudeau was and is, he truly was nothing more

975
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 5>than a puppet affront for powers that shouldn't be You

976
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:48.320
<v Speaker 5>will note that he was not a member of the

977
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 5>Young Global Leaders program of the World Economic for him,

978
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 5>but as Klaus Schwab famously said, well, they cannot relate.

979
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 5>It is a cabinet of Trudeau and all of his

980
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.800
<v Speaker 5>All of the positions in the Trudeau government were essentially

981
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.800
<v Speaker 5>staffed by w AF globalist people. Trudeau was just the face,

982
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 5>the puppet that was dangled out. Carney, however, is funny.

983
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.639
<v Speaker 5>He portrays himself as a political outsider because he's never

984
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 5>been selected for any office. Interestingly, though, he is the

985
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 5>absolute globalist insider extraordinaire builderberg R I i a a

986
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 5>ka Chatham House, the British secret society that well that

987
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 5>really spawned the CFR. He was Bank of England, Bank

988
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 5>of Canada. He started out in Goldman Sachs. He is

989
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 5>absolutely as globalist as they come. And unfortunately I don't

990
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 5>think he is just a front for power. I think

991
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:46.039
<v Speaker 5>he he has malevum malicious intentions of his own. He

992
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 5>might be on the way out the door, though, but whatever,

993
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 5>that's internal Canadian politics and who who.

994
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know if he even Canadians care

995
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 4>that much.

996
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 5>But if people want to know about the trade wars,

997
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 5>I also recently wrote an editorial specifically on that topic,

998
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:04.480
<v Speaker 5>and unfortunately it's pretty bleak because I liken it to

999
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 5>the nineteen thirties tariffs and trade wars and currency devaluations

1000
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.599
<v Speaker 5>and other such jockeying that we saw in the lead

1001
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 5>up to World War Two, which of course was a

1002
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.400
<v Speaker 5>foundational cornerstone for the new World order that resulted in

1003
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 5>the nineteen forties that we've been living under the shadow

1004
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 5>of for the past seventy eighty years. Well, I think

1005
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 5>a new new world order is due to arrive very soon,

1006
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 5>and there's nothing like trade wars that lead to real

1007
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 5>hot wars to make that happen. So the outlook is

1008
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 5>not looking great for the coming years.

1009
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<v Speaker 2>And you're definitely not looking forward to your native born

1010
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>country becoming the fifty first state.

1011
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 5>I guess, huh, I must admit, no, I am. I'm

1012
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 5>not looking forward to getting an American passport or however

1013
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 5>that works. However, but then again, I'm really only Canadian

1014
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 5>in paper only at this point, so I don't know

1015
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:56.840
<v Speaker 5>what it means.

1016
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Look tongue in cheek there. I had to do it.

1017
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help myself, but I had to bring it up.

1018
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 2>And look, if I had somebody on here from Greenland,

1019
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 2>i'd do the same thing. But you know, and do

1020
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 2>we even need the Panama Canal. I don't think most

1021
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 2>of our you know, newer ships can even.

1022
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Pass through it. But that's okay.

1023
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:18.239
<v Speaker 4>We can just well be very careful with that.

1024
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.719
<v Speaker 5>We because as it turns out, Me and America first

1025
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 5>actually means Blackrock first, because, as you may or may

1026
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 5>not have heard, Blackrock led the consortium. In fact, Larry

1027
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 5>Think personally got on the phone with Trump within days

1028
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<v Speaker 5>of him taking office saying.

1029
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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you know that Panama Canal thing.

1030
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 5>We will buy out the Chinese operation that owns the ports,

1031
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.400
<v Speaker 5>the control access to the canal, and Trump was all

1032
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 5>on board, and Blackrock has led the consortium to buy

1033
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 5>it away from the chicoms. Yay, raw raw America, by

1034
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.280
<v Speaker 5>which I mean raw Rock Blackrock.

1035
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<v Speaker 2>Right, And there's your final bleak thought for this discussion.

1036
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Thank you James for coming on with me. I appreciate it.

1037
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>And again, go to Corbett Report dot com follow up

1038
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 2>on James's work, because he's following up on his own

1039
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 2>work and all the events that are unfolding. And I

1040
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>loved his his very brief but perfectly stated salient point

1041
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.960
<v Speaker 2>about Canada and the alleged regime change and all that

1042
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 2>as it goes forward and remember this. You know the

1043
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.079
<v Speaker 2>faces changed, but I don't know the old boss the

1044
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>new boss. I'm mixing it all up.

1045
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 3>What did he say? Can't get pulled again? Maybe maybe

1046
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 3>stay tuned, But anyway, I'm merely o'celly and all of

1047
00:53:32.079 --> 00:54:32.079
<v Speaker 3>you are indeed did use expressed my callers.

1048
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<v Speaker 2>Schools there anyone else who happens to get on the

1049
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:35.800
<v Speaker 2>air of Jelly dot com do not necessarily reflect the

1050
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 2>views of Jelly dot Com or che Chelly.

1051
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<v Speaker 3>And we are not responsible for any stupidity which might

1052
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<v Speaker 3>be students.

1053
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>If I can sell you.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time A track on sell my my bad,

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<v Speaker 1>I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Away from make a first time by my last my

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<v Speaker 3>time a buck cast down a boy.

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<v Speaker 6>All made you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go away.

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<v Speaker 1>the place I had in slang with fights, make them

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<v Speaker 1>back to make a.

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<v Speaker 6>Slipping down on you? What you want to see that

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<v Speaker 6>all I.

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<v Speaker 3>Come down on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Down there?

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<v Speaker 6>I know we got hey, we got Do you like

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<v Speaker 6>his real history that you were never taught in schools.

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<v Speaker 6>Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in Nation Building in

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<v Speaker 6>Southeast Asia by author Mike Swanson, with new documentation never

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<v Speaker 6>seen before that'll open your eyes to events that led

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<v Speaker 6>up to this. Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in

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<v Speaker 6>Nation Building in Southeast Asia nineteen forty five through nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>Network revelation through Conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

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<v Speaker 4>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

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<v Speaker 4>the context of the times and reveals never before published

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<v Speaker 4>information about the Cuban missile crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>President Kennedy would not have been assassinated if he had

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<v Speaker 5>been president two hundred years ago. His assassination took place

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<v Speaker 5>in the context of the Cold War and the right

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<v Speaker 5>of the national security state.

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<v Speaker 4>Before World War II, the United States was a continental republic.

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<v Speaker 4>In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower.

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<v Speaker 4>Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba,

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<v Speaker 4>but knew that there were short range missiles on the island,

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<v Speaker 4>armed with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because

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<v Speaker 4>they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have led

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<v Speaker 4>to a Third World War, and they wanted to go

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<v Speaker 4>to war anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>The War State by Michael Swanson reveals why and will

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<v Speaker 5>show you what President Kennedy was up against.

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<v Speaker 4>For more information, the Warstate dot com