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<v Speaker 1>This is a clip from Dawn of Discernment.

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<v Speaker 2>You can access the entire episode now on our website

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to start with looking at DNA,

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<v Speaker 3>because you've put out a couple of videos lately on

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<v Speaker 3>your channel, and there'll be links below in the show

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<v Speaker 3>notes to Marty's Nostick Academy, YouTube and Rumble channels. So

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<v Speaker 3>the first point about DNA is that it's never been

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<v Speaker 3>proven to exist, and that may be a surprise to

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<v Speaker 3>some people. Hasn't been proven to exist as as described.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is, we don't know if there's something going on,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not the way we've been told. And you

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<v Speaker 3>you did actually look in your in your video, you

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<v Speaker 3>did look at the tron Cowan's conversation with Alic on

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<v Speaker 3>the way Forward, which is which is a really, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>good explanation. And they looked at the original paper, which

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually downloaded myself, and I've marked all the points

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<v Speaker 3>on the paper where it has what they call hedging language.

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<v Speaker 3>So look at all those look at all those there

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<v Speaker 3>where they're talking about things like we suggest being proposed.

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<v Speaker 3>We believe that we wish to put forward all and

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of assumptions. So you know, this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is the definitive paper, and that's all the hedging language.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's more to it. So I suppose really the

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<v Speaker 3>starting point is what inspired you to really dive into

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<v Speaker 3>looking into DNA and whether it exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's just a I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of this alchemical process of just constantly distilling things

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<v Speaker 2>down to truth, like I want the quintessence, like you

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<v Speaker 2>know so, and in our world basically we're given explanations

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<v Speaker 2>for all of these things, whatever it is space, what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on at the sub microscopic level, whatever the heck

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<v Speaker 2>that means. And so I always knew the DNA thing

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<v Speaker 2>was bs right like, because it's just I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably like even two years ago or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, oh, well that's nonsense. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>provable about it. But then I never kept going with

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<v Speaker 2>it because I was busy with ten thousand other things

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<v Speaker 2>obviously too, you know. So then I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm gonna do a sermon on this and

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of patch it up in an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes or whatever and just show.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, hey, this is this is the photo fifty one,

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<v Speaker 4>the alleged photo of DNA, and this is the alleged

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<v Speaker 4>science behind it, and this is the first paper, like

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<v Speaker 4>you're showing there's nothing provable about it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did that, and then as I did it,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize like how important the conversation was. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna be like, yeah, DNA is junk,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just nonsense, and then that was gonna be it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it got.

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<v Speaker 2>Into this whole thing of like the esoterica behind it

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<v Speaker 2>and the symbolism behind it and actually what they were doing,

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<v Speaker 2>which maybe you could talk about a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 2>what ultimately it would all led to is just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, how are they doing this? Then, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not DNA, if there aren't these codes made

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<v Speaker 2>by chemicals at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Of you then what are they doing? And as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, it's it's a it's a database of names and aliases.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have said that prior to us hitting record,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's what it is. It's basically a big magic

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<v Speaker 2>show that's all done with you know, it's it's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the technocracy obviously, right, you know, this is all

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<v Speaker 2>of technological wizardry, and they're they're couching it in these

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like, oh, we've got the code of life

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got the machines to go in and read

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<v Speaker 2>you and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But really what it is is a massive database.

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<v Speaker 2>And if this database is care is is everything on you,

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<v Speaker 2>like literally everything, And that's what these are and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what those data centers are. And so what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>is it's a massive surveillance program. But it's it's based,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's that's foundation is actually in DNA, it's in

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<v Speaker 2>this alleged science that is completely unprovable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nonsense. It's so it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's completely laughable when you actually start picking

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<v Speaker 2>it apart. It's just like what, you know, so getting

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<v Speaker 2>to the bottom of things, long story short, getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of things, just wanting truth, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>I knew this was nonsense, and so then it's just

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<v Speaker 2>snowballed from there because then it was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is nonsense, then what are they actually doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And now with that you pretty much have the key,

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<v Speaker 2>like literally the key to unlock what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a massive surveillance state.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing it on you know, bs science, and this

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<v Speaker 2>science is that we've got all the information about you

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<v Speaker 2>and your genetics and where you.

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<v Speaker 1>Come from and all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>So as soon as you as soon as you expose

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<v Speaker 2>DNA and actually what it is, then the entire thing

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<v Speaker 2>falls apart, all of it, all the science, all of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff behind it, you know, so anyway it does.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was looking at sort of questioning, you

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<v Speaker 3>know who, well, the idea of genes being in control

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<v Speaker 3>a long time ago when I first came across Bruce

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<v Speaker 3>Lipton's work, you know, the Biology of Belief, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was saying, you know, genes don't control biology. So I

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<v Speaker 3>came across that while ago, but I hadn't gone into

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<v Speaker 3>any depths as to what genes actually were. But the

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<v Speaker 3>whole twenty twenty nonsense, you know, brought out a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the whole gene stuff. And again, I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>can probably talk about that all the different parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the so called truth movement, and where some of them

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<v Speaker 3>gets stuck in some layers and they end up talking

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<v Speaker 3>about you know, gene therapy and all that stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>missing the point that there isn't which you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like us to go somewhat deeper into with what you've seen,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what you've looked into, and as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about looking for truth. So it's getting rid of

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<v Speaker 3>the lies. And it's not because we don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>replace it with something, but it's still showing the lies.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've been looking at it, and certainly the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years really diving deeper into genes and you

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<v Speaker 3>know what are cool? Genes are still hypothetical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the crazy thing that I was that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pointing out with all of this is that how how

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<v Speaker 2>are they doing this right? Like we can at this

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<v Speaker 2>point prove and we can get into all of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to just say this stuff but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or not give the audience what you know, a line

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<v Speaker 2>to follow there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like we can prove that all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this like DNA, and we can prove that genes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can prove that atoms they don't exist. But

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<v Speaker 2>all of this stuff, the way they exist is that

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<v Speaker 2>it's within our language. We just speak this stuff into being.

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<v Speaker 2>People will say protons, neutrons, electrons, They will say genetics,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's in my genetics. Oh it's in my DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>None of this stuff exists, none of it's provable, none

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<v Speaker 2>of it is you know, demonstrable, goes through any of

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<v Speaker 2>the scientific method Then we have to step back, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is I guess where sort of our church comes

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<v Speaker 2>in handy is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a magic spell? Then how do they do magic?

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<v Speaker 2>It's abracadabra. They speak it into being. That's exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>you do magic. You speak it into being. Protons, neutrons, electrons.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's ever seen a proton, a neutron electron. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's ever seen a virus, no one's ever seen DNA,

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<v Speaker 2>no one's ever seen any atoms. But it's so embedded

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<v Speaker 2>in our language that what creates the reality of it speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is how they do it with all universities too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a perfect example is I just had a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with the you know, the doctor Steve Young, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a good friend of yours.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just a great dude, really smart, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally went to college for how four or five

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<v Speaker 2>years and learned about quantum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never seen a Q and that's what he got.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of He's like, well, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>an atom, I've never seen quantum anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Expert in it, and there's nothing to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just what you have to come that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the facts you have to come to. It's all nonsense,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But then you have to once again go

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<v Speaker 2>one step further.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? It's an agenda and it's not only

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<v Speaker 1>just an agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>It is magic. It is these are wizards. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what this is. This is dark wizardry. And yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's I guess that's where we come in, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So does not only point out the lot, not only

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<v Speaker 2>point out that it's unscientific, that's one thing, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>then to say, okay, then what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not science, then what is it? Okay, it's magic? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>then then how do they do that magic?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? How it's done through the manipulation of language.

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<v Speaker 2>And that gets into your psychology because how many people

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<v Speaker 2>will even say and this is one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, she said, oh, this is in my

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to use DNA because doctor Cowens could

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<v Speaker 2>actually get really mad at me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's super onto something there, you know, because look at

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<v Speaker 2>how DNA is.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone will just say it, Oh, it's in my DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>No it's not. There's no DNA there.

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<v Speaker 2>So why are you saying that? Because it was repeated

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<v Speaker 2>to you and you believed it without ever examining it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not two snakes that are throwing proteins back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth at sub sub microscopic levels that reduces you down

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<v Speaker 2>to an acid that tells you all about where you

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<v Speaker 2>come from, and you're what a joke?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And yet that ridiculous explanation of like our code of

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<v Speaker 2>life is just embedded in so many even in the

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<v Speaker 2>truth or thing. And so what we're trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>right now is like change the language, change clean it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden your science goes away,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, totally, the words, the words and the word magic.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think a lot of people are beginning

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<v Speaker 3>to get it, only it's getting through those habits. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the Human Genome Project. I know you kind of you're

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<v Speaker 3>aware that that didn't do what it claims to have done,

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<v Speaker 3>because it wasn't a single human that they mapped their

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<v Speaker 3>entire genome. So it's just so many deceptions as part

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<v Speaker 3>of the story. But as you say, and with the

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<v Speaker 3>psychological aspect of it, you know, they've been doing psychology

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<v Speaker 3>experiments for ages and then they tell us a certain

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<v Speaker 3>result or they say all that the you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the conformity experiments and everyone conformed. Well when you look

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<v Speaker 3>or rather I've found more work where people have studied

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<v Speaker 3>what actually happened, and it's not actually quite what we're told,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not everybody who does it, so it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody conforms, you know. So we're getting these stories

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<v Speaker 3>and all everyone conforms, but in some you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>there is always a percentage who don't, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>that's where we can kind of start to gain some confidence. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always been a minority, I mean twenty five percent,

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<v Speaker 3>people who say no, thank you, or I'm not conforming.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, this is important to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we can make a difference by saying no. So

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<v Speaker 3>with the yeah, oh, when you meant to first mention

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<v Speaker 3>the DNA, the deoxyribos nucleic castid. That was the original

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<v Speaker 3>with the S and that's how I knew it, way

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<v Speaker 3>way back when I was at school. That's how I

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<v Speaker 3>you have any ideas why they changed that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, like because yes, we could talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but that i'd need some graphics and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually going to include that in the first one,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just gets a little bit too convoluted, especially

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<v Speaker 1>But basically, one of the things that.

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<v Speaker 2>We do is we actually show that all of the

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<v Speaker 2>language quinine A nine set design Thymine, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>symbolism of the two snakes and the latter and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff is deaxy ribos nucleic acid. It's even

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<v Speaker 2>a like a three letter spell like CBS, ABC, NBC, DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you had to make people remember deaxy ribos

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<v Speaker 2>nucleic acid, do you think that the spell would work?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because people could barely even pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you say DNA, that's really stupid simple every boom,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a magic spell, right, in your head, DNA, diaxi, rebosse,

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<v Speaker 2>nucleic acid. How many people are going to fall for

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<v Speaker 2>the magic spell? They got to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so what we're showing is that this is intentional,

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<v Speaker 2>it's done by magicians. It's all done through language, which

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what magic is. People don't realize that magic

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<v Speaker 2>first and foremost is spelling. Writes are writing. Spells are

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<v Speaker 2>spelling sciences or sentences. Okay, everybody knows that when you

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<v Speaker 2>say a abercadabra means we create what we speak. So

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<v Speaker 2>what these people are doing is they're just creating this

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<v Speaker 2>reality which we've all capitulated and agreed to, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of it's one hundred and eleven percent total bullshit and

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<v Speaker 2>completely unscientific, and all of it's done through just speaking

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Showing you pictures, this is DNA, here's the language, this

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<v Speaker 2>is your life code, and everybody believes it for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, you know. So, so what we do is

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<v Speaker 2>just try to unspell that magic. And the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you can do, the first thing you can do

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<v Speaker 2>is start taking the stuff out of your language. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like viruses, I don't say virus anymore. Right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a flat earther, I don't say globe anymore, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say celestial globe whatever. But no, no, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>flat plane or whatever. Right, same thing goes for genetics,

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<v Speaker 2>same thing goes for DNA, same things goes for atomism.

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<v Speaker 3>So absolutely, yes, yes, I've been changing my language as

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<v Speaker 3>well on the same basis. I mean, we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about the latest nonsense that you know, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is is supposed to be crashing into the moon

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're going to create a new creators something like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nonsense, isn't it. It's all nonsense, but it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is designed to keep the same stories out there,

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<v Speaker 3>to keep perpetuating, because that's the that's the way that

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<v Speaker 3>spells are. They kind of get their energy by constant repetition,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that's how they know that, you know, psychologically,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of you know, constant repetition, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>they did in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>And and they're also with all of this, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things they're doing is trying to create a great

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<v Speaker 2>viprecation in humanity because they also know that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of us, they're gonna be like this is all nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when COVID hit, they knew that there was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a whole bunch of people that are like

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<v Speaker 2>just like us and you whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost immediately were like, this is absolute crap. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew that, you know, so just look at like

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<v Speaker 1>Artemis too. It's the same