Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, good morning. Welcome, welcome, welcome. It's
Speaker 1: time now for City matters right here on K one,
Speaker 1: the one you trust. If it matters to you, it
Speaker 1: matters to the city. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: That's caught intro there. Thank you about I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Mike Bailey, I'm great, I'm great. Had
Speaker 2: we had we all had a busy weekend. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we're great. It's good. Happened Monday. All right, what's the latest, brother?
Speaker 3: So latest before we actually dip into the meat of
Speaker 3: the program, which is sitting to my right named Terry Laurdson,
Speaker 3: I got a couple of things, So Kerry meet Laurence.
Speaker 2: Yet he'll he'll be most of the program this morning,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 3: But so we want to start out just real quick
Speaker 3: and congratulate Senator Daniels. Actually, I believe it was last
Speaker 3: week she received the twenty twenty five bill Library Bill
Speaker 3: Lowry Library Champion Award. So this is issued by the
Speaker 3: Oklahoma Department of Libraries, and this was essentially for her
Speaker 3: work in the legislature championing library. So I just want
Speaker 3: to take a moment and thank her for that. That
Speaker 3: award was given to her at a library at the
Speaker 3: library board meeting, so we got to be there for
Speaker 3: that and to congratulate her and to welcome her, but
Speaker 3: we wanted to wanted to give her a quick shout
Speaker 3: out on the radio as well. And so last week
Speaker 3: was actually a council meeting and it was a there
Speaker 3: wasn't wasn't a whole lot happening. It was just boring
Speaker 3: city business, which is how we prefer it, but really
Speaker 3: just city business. The only thing really of note from
Speaker 3: that council meeting was that we did make sort of
Speaker 3: a quiet announcement that the name of the golf course
Speaker 3: will be changing. It has been Adams Municipal Golf Club
Speaker 3: or course for a very long time, and so the
Speaker 3: along with our reopening of the course that involves changing
Speaker 3: our programs. We've got a new golf pro d Roadman
Speaker 3: who we've introduced everybody to d has has some great
Speaker 3: ideas for the golf course. But along with that, we
Speaker 3: wanted to shift the.
Speaker 2: Brand at the golf course.
Speaker 3: So the grand reopening the golf course, we also wanted
Speaker 3: to honor the essentially the founder of the golf course.
Speaker 3: Of course, for anybody who knows that's Boots Adams. Boots
Speaker 3: Adams donated the land and made a significant monetary contribution
Speaker 3: to actually create.
Speaker 2: Adams Golf Course.
Speaker 3: So it was Bartlesville's first and at that time only
Speaker 3: municipal course and still our only municipal course, but that
Speaker 3: started with Boots, so we wanted to honor him, and
Speaker 3: so the first thing that we did was to come
Speaker 3: up with a name that that honored Boots, and then
Speaker 3: we invited his two sons that are still here in
Speaker 3: the area, Kenneth and Stephen talk to them about the
Speaker 3: idea and they absolutely loved it. So we were glad
Speaker 3: for their support and so that that course will officially.
Speaker 2: Be known as Boo Boots Hollow.
Speaker 3: And so we'll be switching from Adams Municipal to Boots
Speaker 3: Hollow here in the near future. So by the time
Speaker 3: we do our reopening, we will have a completely new brand.
Speaker 3: So we're excited that golf course. We're expecting there.
Speaker 2: To be an opening in it.
Speaker 3: I don't have the exact dates on everything, but it'll
Speaker 3: be towards the end of August, so keep an eye
Speaker 3: out for all of that. We'll have a community day,
Speaker 3: the first community Day or the Community Day will allow
Speaker 3: people to bring their putters.
Speaker 2: We won't be.
Speaker 3: Able to play the course that day, but we'll let
Speaker 3: you pudd on the new greens if you want to
Speaker 3: come out and see what they see, what they look like,
Speaker 3: it is significantly different. And then we will have a
Speaker 3: soft opening with limited tea times, followed by our first tournament,
Speaker 3: so we'll have a grand opening tournament and then it'll
Speaker 3: be business as usual out of the golf course. So
Speaker 3: looking forward to getting that open. I know that everybody
Speaker 3: who plays golf, trust me, I've heard from you. I
Speaker 3: know you're ready to get it open too. They're all
Speaker 3: very excited about it. So with that, let's go ahead
Speaker 3: and jump to what I'm sure anybody who's listening to
Speaker 3: the program wants to know more about. Over the weekend,
Speaker 3: there was a we received an unfortunate announcement from ODEQ
Speaker 3: and they placed the city of Artlesville's water supply on
Speaker 3: a boil or. And I've got Terry Lorence in here
Speaker 3: with me so that we can discuss this more. But
Speaker 3: essentially there were several key components to that. The primary
Speaker 3: is is that Terry, we test our system, is it monthly?
Speaker 4: Well, we test truly tested daily, but we plant daily.
Speaker 5: But right, so, yeah, let me I'll die right in.
Speaker 2: He knows how he.
Speaker 3: Wants to say this, and he's not gonna let me
Speaker 3: readirect any of it.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna shut up to No, that's unusual.
Speaker 5: Well, so to answer your monitoring question, so we monitor
Speaker 5: the plant not just daily but hourly minute. We have
Speaker 5: equipment that monitors though those treatment levels. We monitor the
Speaker 5: distribution system daily for chlorine residual, so we check in
Speaker 5: different parts to monitor for chlorine residual and then monthly
Speaker 5: we perform bacterio logical tests or we pull samples. We
Speaker 5: send that to an independent labor laboratory to run those tests.
Speaker 5: We're required to do forty a month at various locations
Speaker 5: within the system really are remote parts of the system.
Speaker 5: Because of it's good at the furthest point, then it's
Speaker 5: good everywhere else. So we do those ten a week.
Speaker 5: So we do it all the time, daily and then
Speaker 5: weekly for the bacterio logical assessments. And so last Wednesday
Speaker 5: we pulled samples for the last ten of the month,
Speaker 5: and one of those samples at twenty first in Dewey
Speaker 5: came back positive for E.
Speaker 2: Coli.
Speaker 5: And so that We were made aware of those results
Speaker 5: on Thursday afternoon. Friday evening, we talked with the Department
Speaker 5: of our Mont Quality. That's the first time we've ever
Speaker 5: had in E. Coli tests positive, and so we sought
Speaker 5: guidance from them on.
Speaker 2: What do we need to do.
Speaker 5: Do we need to do an immediate boil order, what's
Speaker 5: the protocol and what's the process. We were instructed to
Speaker 5: hold off on anything to resample that site as well
Speaker 5: as sites adjacent to that site, send that into the
Speaker 5: independent lab, get the results, and we'll go from there.
Speaker 5: So we did that Saturday morning. We were made aware
Speaker 5: of the results of that resampling, which the original site
Speaker 5: that tested positive for E. Coli tested negative for E. Coli,
Speaker 5: but it still had the color form bacteria, which is
Speaker 5: an indicator bacteria harmless to us, but it's an indicator
Speaker 5: of bactroological growth in your system. But the adjacent sites
Speaker 5: that we tested were negative for both color form and E. Coli.
Speaker 5: So at the time.
Speaker 2: We issued we received those results. We received the.
Speaker 5: Call right around noon or almost right around one from
Speaker 5: the ODEQ about the results of that test, and we
Speaker 5: were informed that we were going to be put on
Speaker 5: a mandatory boiler order.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then I think by one thirty they placed it
Speaker 5: on the boil order, and I think we were able
Speaker 5: to get a press release that had some more context
Speaker 5: and information regarding that what happened later that afternoon, But
Speaker 5: that started the kind of the whilwind of activity that
Speaker 5: we experienced over the weekend. But when we received.
Speaker 2: That first positive test for E.
Speaker 5: Coli, we immediately began fleshing that part of the system.
Speaker 5: I can't stress enough that no other part of the
Speaker 5: system tests positive for E. Coli, for any kind of
Speaker 5: color form bacteria.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: There were no anomalies at the plant. The plant was
Speaker 5: producing safe water, continued to produce safe water throughout this process.
Speaker 5: So that's in our press release. I put in there
Speaker 5: that I felt that it was an anomaly with the
Speaker 5: sample site, right because the water was testing well everywhere
Speaker 5: else except that one specific location. But with the boiler
Speaker 5: order mandate and the notice that equal wise in your
Speaker 5: water system, I think the public interpreted that that every
Speaker 5: drop of water was contaminated, there was no water safe
Speaker 5: to drink, to do anything with, which obviously was not true.
Speaker 2: Essentially, is the.
Speaker 3: Way the ODEQ protocol works is that they air on
Speaker 3: the side of caution, and so they notify everyone who
Speaker 3: could be exposed, and in this instance, we don't believe
Speaker 3: that anyone truly was exposed.
Speaker 2: We believe it was an anomaly with that site.
Speaker 3: However, regardless of that ODEQ, they out of an abundance
Speaker 3: of caution, they notify everybody who not just on our
Speaker 3: system directly, but everybody we may serve, even though it
Speaker 3: might take two three days for that water to even
Speaker 3: reach them, assuming it's coming from the same sort.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so on Saturday we were able to get in
Speaker 5: touch with the decisions makers at the ODQ to find
Speaker 5: out what we needed to do to get off the
Speaker 5: boil order. So we had a plan of attack from then.
Speaker 5: So we continued to flush that area concern and then
Speaker 5: we re sampled that specific location adjacent to that area,
Speaker 5: and then throughout the entire distribution system to represent all
Speaker 5: the water within our system. So we sent those samples
Speaker 5: Saturday evening to the lab as a twenty four hour test.
Speaker 5: That's just the way the test goes. We were made
Speaker 5: at the results yesterday at eight pm. As far as
Speaker 5: everything tested negative, no coliform, no E Coli in any
Speaker 5: location that was sampled or tested yesterday, and so the
Speaker 5: state then released or lifted the boil order mandate, and
Speaker 5: so that's where we are today. There's a lot of
Speaker 5: work left for us to do, certainly to understand what
Speaker 5: happened at that site. In essence, there's six ways that
Speaker 5: eq Coli can be introduced into your system. And so
Speaker 5: if you're not familiar with E. Coli, that has as
Speaker 5: a bacteria, but its basis is in human or animal waste.
Speaker 5: So you can either have a catastrophic failure at the
Speaker 5: water plant where something is not treating or working disinfectant wise,
Speaker 5: you can have a break and a water main that
Speaker 5: you depressure eye to fix it, but something crawls in
Speaker 5: and dies in there. You can have a sampling air
Speaker 5: where the person taking the sample contaminates it. You can
Speaker 5: have a lab air where it's contaminated at the lab.
Speaker 5: You can have an anomaly at the sample site. So
Speaker 5: kind of going through the checklist, there was nothing that
Speaker 5: was abnormal with the plant. Everything was working perfect and
Speaker 5: is exactly how it should. There was no water main
Speaker 5: breaks in that area at all within the last six months,
Speaker 5: so there's nothing that could have crawled in and died.
Speaker 5: The person that we have pulling the samples is well trained,
Speaker 5: very very familiar with that process. So I have no
Speaker 5: doubt that that contamination wasn't from them. The lab is
Speaker 5: a state certified lab to perform these type of tests.
Speaker 5: They have all kinds of protocol and procedures in place
Speaker 5: to prevent that. So I seriously doubt that that occurred
Speaker 5: from the lab. And so that left the sample site
Speaker 5: if that was the potential point of where the equal
Speaker 5: I came in. Now, the sample site is in essence
Speaker 5: of frost free hydrant is what it is. So if
Speaker 5: you're familiar with the frost free hydrant, it has a
Speaker 5: vertical standpipe about three feet long.
Speaker 2: The valve that operates to let.
Speaker 5: Water come out of the spicket is down below the
Speaker 5: ground roughly three feet But in that stand pipe, above
Speaker 5: the valve that opens and closes that that spicket is
Speaker 5: a weephole, a drain hole. And so we have speculated
Speaker 5: this is all speculation at this point. We have nothing
Speaker 5: to confirm it as of today. But my speculation is
Speaker 5: that something has had crawled up into that we pull
Speaker 5: and died. It could be an earthworm, it could be
Speaker 5: a snake, it could be something else. Whatever the case
Speaker 5: may be ground petration, should be groundwater penetration, who knows
Speaker 5: what that is. But all the tests revealed that the
Speaker 5: only issue was at that specific sample site. If you
Speaker 5: have a problem with the water at one location, you're
Speaker 5: going to have a problem with the water adjacent to
Speaker 5: that location, and even potentially further on. We never found that,
Speaker 5: never saw that in any of our testing, and so
Speaker 5: even to this day, we have not seen that. We
Speaker 5: are going to continue to monitor this area very closely,
Speaker 5: looking for different indicators, will run an assortment of tests
Speaker 5: on it to see bacterologically what's going on with it.
Speaker 5: But at this point we're going to go through everything
Speaker 5: very thoroughly. The plant, what was going on exactly with
Speaker 5: the plant, the protocol, you know, all those things. We
Speaker 5: know there's no water main break, so that one is
Speaker 5: obviously crossed off the list. We will get with the
Speaker 5: lab to see what their protocols are in place to
Speaker 5: you know, to mitigate or to prevent a contamination. But
Speaker 5: we'll go through all those and very very granually to
Speaker 5: see exactly what happened to one to hopefully identify what happened.
Speaker 5: But the second thing is if there's a deficiency somewhere
Speaker 5: we certainly need to correct that so it never ever
Speaker 5: happens again. So that's uh, you know, we take the
Speaker 5: safety of our water very seriously. I drink it, my
Speaker 5: family drinks it, my kids drink it. Everybody at the
Speaker 5: water plant they drink it, their family, their kids, and
Speaker 5: so on and so forth, and so the safety of
Speaker 5: the water is utmost important to us, and so.
Speaker 2: That that is paramount.
Speaker 5: And that's paramount.
Speaker 2: So it's safety in the safety of the water absolutely.
Speaker 5: So it's this was something that's never happened. It is
Speaker 5: unbelievably rare for a system to be working very well
Speaker 5: with no anomalies and all of a sudden you get
Speaker 5: an e coalie. So that's you know, I couldn't express
Speaker 5: enough how this is such a an anomaly to see this.
Speaker 5: But in any event, where we went through it, we're
Speaker 5: thankful obviously to the Department of Armor Quality with their
Speaker 5: efforts to help us get off the boil order as
Speaker 5: quickly as we did. We want to I want to
Speaker 5: personally thank Kelly Williams and Kelsey Walker. They were our
Speaker 5: eyes and ears with social media.
Speaker 2: Their weekend was over about two o'clock on Saturday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they put together the press releases, the different FAQs,
Speaker 5: and and they kind of wage the information battle on
Speaker 5: social media. So their efforts were fantastic over this incident.
Speaker 5: But our work is just beginning on it, and so
Speaker 5: we will work very expeditiously, but you know, very strategically
Speaker 5: as well, to make sure that we're covering all the bases,
Speaker 5: to to identify what was the source of it, and
Speaker 5: then to make corrections if if if needed.
Speaker 3: So and Terry the a few questions that I know
Speaker 3: that I've received you and I've discussed these, but I
Speaker 3: think it's worth sharing with the public. So we're dealing
Speaker 3: really with odeq's protocols, and so when certain things happen,
Speaker 3: it triggers other things, and those are designed that way
Speaker 3: for a reason, again with public safety in mind, and
Speaker 3: so they are always.
Speaker 2: Going to air on the side of caution.
Speaker 3: So when we were dealing with this, of course it
Speaker 3: was detected at one site out of forty that we
Speaker 3: routinely sample, and it did test positive for E.
Speaker 2: Coli at one time.
Speaker 3: However, there was no other test for ecolon nowhere else
Speaker 3: in the system or at that location, again, which was
Speaker 3: part of Again I think we're dealing with a protocol
Speaker 3: at ODQ, but it surprised us a little bit, never
Speaker 3: having gone through this. It detected E coli, and they
Speaker 3: instructed us to resample. When we did resample, it didn't
Speaker 3: test positive for E. Coli, but tested positive for the
Speaker 3: color form, which is sort of a precursor. And so
Speaker 3: normally caliform does not trigger anything, but in this instance
Speaker 3: it did trigger the boil.
Speaker 2: Order because there was a positive E. Coli test. The
Speaker 2: past is how we understand it.
Speaker 3: So we were this was certainly new to us, which
Speaker 3: is a good thing that it's new to us. You know,
Speaker 3: this is certainly not something you want to have happened
Speaker 3: in your system. So in your history here has this
Speaker 3: ever happened?
Speaker 2: Never? Never, never, We've never had a single positive test.
Speaker 5: For ecoli never, you're aware, to my knowledge. So, and
Speaker 5: even testing positive for caliform is a rare incidence. You know,
Speaker 5: we take six hundred tests over a year. If we
Speaker 5: have one test positive for caliform, that's an exception. But
Speaker 5: with the positive test for E. Coli, the what the
Speaker 5: state terms a confirmation test, that next sample round for
Speaker 5: a call ofform that's what validated in or triggered the
Speaker 5: boil yet the boilerer.
Speaker 3: And it did which I'm sure again dealing with their protocols,
Speaker 3: the ODQ has a certain amount of time then to
Speaker 3: issue the boiler order and so so unfortunately this one
Speaker 3: was on Saturday. It made it difficult to communicate with
Speaker 3: the public. It made it difficult in fact to communicate
Speaker 3: with ODEQ because not all of their people were available.
Speaker 3: So it was an unfortunate set of circumstances. I'm grateful
Speaker 3: to you and your staff because you were able to
Speaker 3: work through it quickly and reassure the public. But even
Speaker 3: even a day under those circumstances is certainly too much.
Speaker 3: So we're going to do our part to work with
Speaker 3: ODQ and go through sort of an after action. You
Speaker 3: know what, how could we have done this better and
Speaker 3: how could we work better with ODQ? The ODQ called
Speaker 3: our water plant about it was late afternoon or early afternoon,
Speaker 3: about one one, and that was essentially the same time
Speaker 3: that they issued the public notice.
Speaker 2: So we were notified pretty much concurrently with the public
Speaker 2: on Saturday, right correct.
Speaker 3: And so I know there was some concern why why
Speaker 3: we didn't do more to notify the public. Well, as
Speaker 3: soon as we became aware of the boiler order. We
Speaker 3: immediately worked that first off, answer the question. We don't
Speaker 3: want to put out information prematurely, so to try to
Speaker 3: answer the questions, I have to tell you Saturday morning,
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure that odeq's website hadn't been hacked.
Speaker 2: I was so surprised by this and so so working
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 3: The positive test, of course, was on Thursday, and I
Speaker 3: have had people ask well, why didn't you why didn't
Speaker 3: you go to a boil order immediately, And the answer
Speaker 3: is is we we.
Speaker 2: Actually don't control that. That is od Q who does
Speaker 2: the boil orders.
Speaker 3: And they are the they are the jurisdiction that is
Speaker 3: in charge of this, and their instructions to us were
Speaker 3: essentially to flush, resample and then and then wait for the.
Speaker 5: Results to wait, right yeah, So I mean that was
Speaker 5: our specific question right away, is what do we need
Speaker 5: to do?
Speaker 2: Is a boil order? Isn't an advisory? Is it? What action?
Speaker 5: And they said resample. Once we get those resample results,
Speaker 5: which again takes twenty four hours for that test to run,
Speaker 5: then we will go from there and advise you what
Speaker 5: the next steps are. So we have certainly learned a
Speaker 5: lot in this process and so I would anticipate there
Speaker 5: will be some changes if this ever happens again, which
Speaker 5: again our goal and that's our prime directive and innocence
Speaker 5: is it for it will never happened again, but in
Speaker 5: that off chance that it does, to be better prepared
Speaker 5: for that. And so it caught us by surprise certainly
Speaker 5: when they issued it, and we were scrambling ever since
Speaker 5: to one get information out, but two is to fix it.
Speaker 5: I mean, that was the important things to correct that.
Speaker 5: So we had the dual tracks. We're fixing it and
Speaker 5: getting the public information so they can make an informed
Speaker 5: decision understand what's going on with it. And so again
Speaker 5: Kelly and Kelsey really championed the information aspect of it,
Speaker 5: so that allowed me to really focus on fixing it
Speaker 5: or correcting it. So again I'm deeply appreciated for them
Speaker 5: and their efforts to do that. That helped me and
Speaker 5: the water plant staff. They were out there and did
Speaker 5: a tremendous amount of work as well to check, verify, test,
Speaker 5: do all the things that we can do on site
Speaker 5: to make sure everything was where it needed to be.
Speaker 5: And again all those tests came back good. Everything tested
Speaker 5: exactly where it needed to be. Throughout this whole process.
Speaker 5: So that's why we felt confident that this was going
Speaker 5: to be resolved very quickly. But again we had to
Speaker 5: go through the process. We had to get the actual
Speaker 5: tests through an independent lab that certified everything is what
Speaker 5: we were seeing on our end as well.
Speaker 2: So in summary, it is the water safe to drink.
Speaker 5: Safe to drink, so you do not need to run
Speaker 5: your tap. I think there's some thought about just flush
Speaker 5: your line, do anything. No, the water was always safe
Speaker 5: to flush your system, to run the tab before you
Speaker 5: take a drink. You can use water certainly as you
Speaker 5: normally would. Obviously as a resident and a consumer of
Speaker 5: bars of water. This shakes your confidence, it shakes your
Speaker 5: trust in the water department. That's something that we're going
Speaker 5: to have to build back, certainly through through the next weeks, years, months,
Speaker 5: those sorts of things. But you know that's again our
Speaker 5: utmost priority is to produce that water that's safe, that's reliable.
Speaker 5: We have a staff that's very committed to that, extremely professional,
Speaker 5: knowledgeable in what they do, and we will continue to
Speaker 5: deliver that. But we're going to find out what exactly
Speaker 5: happens so that we can if we need to make
Speaker 5: a correction in some of our sampling or how our
Speaker 5: sites are maintained, then we will certainly implore those or
Speaker 5: make those happen so that we can avoid this in
Speaker 5: the future.
Speaker 3: Well, as I said, I'm grateful for you, I'm grateful
Speaker 3: for your staff.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful to im and Kelsey.
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm also grateful the city Council because they
Speaker 3: were obviously they were inundated with questions as well this weekend,
Speaker 3: but they were they were gracious enough to give us
Speaker 3: the time to do what needed to be done, so
Speaker 3: we kept them informed of the best of our ability.
Speaker 3: But at the same time they were they were very
Speaker 3: patient and very understanding and very supportive through this, so
Speaker 3: it certainly wasn't an easy weekend for anyone. Again, this
Speaker 3: is nothing we've ever had experience with, which is a
Speaker 3: good thing that we had never experienced this, and but
Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason that we were
Speaker 3: so caught off guard, is that this is nothing we've
Speaker 3: ever had to deal with, and hopefully we'll never have
Speaker 3: to deal with again. But in the instance that we do,
Speaker 3: we'll be better prepared. We'll we'll understand better what the
Speaker 3: indicators are and what the od Q expects and what
Speaker 3: their reactions will be. And I was very caught off
Speaker 3: guard by by them declaring the boil order. At the
Speaker 3: same time, I understand that that's probably exactly what their
Speaker 3: protocols require, yep. So, but understanding exactly what their actions
Speaker 3: will be in the future will be very helpful for us.
Speaker 3: So no teacher quite like experiences.
Speaker 5: There, No, no, unfortunately not.
Speaker 2: And this is an experience we don't care to care
Speaker 2: to repeat.
Speaker 3: So anyone who has questions, obviously we we've set it
Speaker 3: over and over the water safe, but there might be
Speaker 3: some people who still have questions.
Speaker 2: What what's a good number for them to call to
Speaker 2: get their questions answer.
Speaker 5: They can call me directly, which is nine one eight
Speaker 5: three three eight four one zero seven. And so that's
Speaker 5: what we put on the notice. As far as if
Speaker 5: there's any questions to call, that is my direct line.
Speaker 5: I will return every call. May not be right away,
Speaker 5: it may take a day or so to work through those,
Speaker 5: but we encourage if you have questions, please feel free
Speaker 5: to reach out to my.
Speaker 2: Direct direct number.
Speaker 5: Uh Now, if you want to talk to the city manager,
Speaker 5: you can always call him.
Speaker 2: He knows less than Terry does. But he's happy to
Speaker 2: talk to you nine one, eight three three eight four
Speaker 2: to two eight two.
Speaker 1: And if you have the city app, it's the hey
Speaker 1: Bailey button.
Speaker 2: Hey Bailey, that's right. I told them to take that
Speaker 2: button off tof.
Speaker 5: So or if you want to email your concern or
Speaker 5: email your questions, certainly you can do so. I do
Speaker 5: ask that you put your name. I'm not responding to
Speaker 5: emails that have no names with them, so I want
Speaker 5: to associate. I'm kind of old school in that sense.
Speaker 5: I want to know a name with an individual, so
Speaker 5: I understand who I'm communicating information with as well. So
Speaker 5: if you email your question, please include your name and
Speaker 5: I will certainly respond back to it. If you send
Speaker 5: me just an oddball email with no name, no anything,
Speaker 5: it's more than likely I'm not going to roseate to you.
Speaker 3: Those are going to get the lowest priority. We want
Speaker 3: to we want to ensure that we're communicating with citizens
Speaker 3: of Bartlesville.
Speaker 2: They're going to get our highest priority in crimness.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you, Terry, I said, this has
Speaker 3: been quite a process that.
Speaker 2: We've worked through here, and we will.
Speaker 3: We're grateful everybody who was involved in it, and we
Speaker 3: thank the citizens of Bartlesville for their patients and their
Speaker 3: continued trust. Yes, all right, I'm gonna kick this over
Speaker 3: to Micah.
Speaker 2: He was, yeah, you get to followup, Terry. That's right, Micah.
Speaker 2: Here next up. I'm usually last. I thought we're gonna
Speaker 2: do Jason. Then, man, I'm not ready. I had ready.
Speaker 2: I had to shake it up. You need to look
Speaker 2: up my notes here it says, hey, I'm upside down.
Speaker 2: You can't read upside down. I can't read it without
Speaker 2: my glasses, and I understand.
Speaker 4: I'm getting to that point.
Speaker 3: So Micah, We've got We've got a lot of projects
Speaker 3: going on around and some of them very visible. The
Speaker 3: first things first, let's talk O Dot real quick. So, okay,
Speaker 3: Highway sixty, which we call Adams Boulevard, right, O Dot
Speaker 3: has come out and done quite a bit of work
Speaker 3: on that from a construction perspective, which.
Speaker 2: They hadn't done in a number of years.
Speaker 3: So the road is improved drastically, which is it's good,
Speaker 3: it was certainly in need of.
Speaker 4: However, this is this is a temporary fix. Correct, This
Speaker 4: is a temporary fix. Yeah, So they actually have a
Speaker 4: project scheduled to completely reconstruct Adam Adams Boulevard from essentially
Speaker 4: Highway seventy five there at the overpass all the way
Speaker 4: out to one twenty three by the research centers. So
Speaker 4: that originally was planned to be bid this last winter
Speaker 4: in January February timeframe on their previous eight year plan
Speaker 4: that got bumped two years to February of twenty twenty
Speaker 4: seven is when they have scheduled to let that project.
Speaker 4: So we have not seen final plans on that. I
Speaker 4: think there's a couple of reasons for that delay. Someone
Speaker 4: was funding, but also on the design side, they just
Speaker 4: don't have the design complete yet as well either. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure what hurdles they've run into there. I know
Speaker 4: that right away is tight and there's some other issues.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of utilities through there.
Speaker 1: Spotted I heard that spotted worms some spot worms.
Speaker 4: Work around right that are protected. I'm sure not really,
Speaker 4: but but you never know, you never know, never know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't quote us on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no spotted words have been sighted. Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4: So so I'm not sure what all the reasons for
Speaker 4: the delays where I do know that in talking with
Speaker 4: their district engineer that funding was part of it. But
Speaker 4: again we haven't seen final plans, so that's got to
Speaker 4: be on that table as well.
Speaker 3: So we expect a complete reconstruction of the road though
Speaker 3: from seventy five to one twenty three.
Speaker 4: That's correct, That is still the plan. I haven't seen
Speaker 4: the plan yet, but expectation there should be sidewalk and
Speaker 4: everything as well, and that's where the ride away comes
Speaker 4: into play, as far as having some some tight issues there.
Speaker 4: So that is still the plan. So they have gone
Speaker 4: through and base. What they've done is they've got enough
Speaker 4: funding approved to do the worst areas on that section
Speaker 4: through downtown. My understanding is I'm not sure where it's
Speaker 4: at and the whole works and things, but I think
Speaker 4: they are trying to also find funding to do the
Speaker 4: portion between High Highway seventy five and Silver Lake. I'm
Speaker 4: just not sure what that looks like yet.
Speaker 2: It would be nice. That area is a little it's
Speaker 2: starting to separate.
Speaker 4: It is it is, so I know there's a desire
Speaker 4: for them to improve that, at least from their maintenance
Speaker 4: crews and whatnot. I'm just not sure if they're going
Speaker 4: to get the funding for that or not. So feel
Speaker 4: free to reach out to ODOTT for more detailed information. Again,
Speaker 4: we're it's not our project. We hate to put too
Speaker 4: much information out there and don't want to really step
Speaker 4: on their toes with that because.
Speaker 2: It is theirs. It is there.
Speaker 4: We've we've talked about that the past with them, that
Speaker 4: you know, how much information should we put out there,
Speaker 4: But that is that is a temporary fix into a
Speaker 4: future reconstruction project.
Speaker 3: So, and we've got a few road construction projects going
Speaker 3: on of our own we do. Probably the most noticeable
Speaker 3: is a project that's essentially a preventative maintenance project. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone has noticed it because it covers a
Speaker 3: lot of our well traveled roads right now. And this
Speaker 3: is this is a project that is essentially it's capping
Speaker 3: the roads. It is not really it's not a reconstruction.
Speaker 3: We're not milling and overlaying. It's not additional asphalt. It
Speaker 3: really is just sort of a cap that will coat
Speaker 3: the roads, that will prevent that will extend their lives.
Speaker 4: We're trying to extend the life home, right So you know,
Speaker 4: for asphalt streets, sunlight and water really are your your
Speaker 4: biggest factors and how to deteriorates. So as long as
Speaker 4: your subgrade is good, those are the things that break
Speaker 4: down asphalt. So so essentially we're trying to extend the
Speaker 4: life of those by providing a measure that seals that off.
Speaker 4: It provides a good driving surface as well. So these
Speaker 4: are some of them made streets in town or typically higher,
Speaker 4: higher speed limits, higher traffic volumes, and so there's limited
Speaker 4: measures that you can do for truly preventive maintenance in
Speaker 4: those types of situations, and so this is one of them.
Speaker 4: It's new to us, really new to this area. We're
Speaker 4: finding that, you know, maybe not ideal if you're going
Speaker 4: to have a wet.
Speaker 2: Year, which it is. It's taken a lot longer to
Speaker 2: get through. So it's actually a four phase project, it is.
Speaker 3: The first phase people will notice is that there's a
Speaker 3: crack ceiling that they do. They go in seal all
Speaker 3: the cracks up. The second phase is essentially a thin,
Speaker 3: thin overlay. It actually looks a lot like a chip
Speaker 3: and seal county.
Speaker 4: It's a thinner version a little bit you know, not
Speaker 4: quite as course, is what they do in the county.
Speaker 3: And that from then there will actually be a ceiling
Speaker 3: that's called h A five and that that essentially will
Speaker 3: return that road and seal it to that that.
Speaker 2: Shiny, pretty black asphalt look that we're used to.
Speaker 3: And then the final one is actually restripeing. Correct, So
Speaker 3: for anybody who's wondering, is that it we're not done yet.
Speaker 2: We're not.
Speaker 3: In fact, I don't know any of the roads that
Speaker 3: the started have been completed because the h A five
Speaker 3: is very weather dependent, correct, it is.
Speaker 4: It's very moisture dependent. So if there's any moistured on,
Speaker 4: I'm not quite Honestly. The crack seling is moisture dependent
Speaker 4: as well. Right, probably the least moisture dependent is the
Speaker 4: is the chip seal force you, but the crack seiling
Speaker 4: is as well. You're not gonna seal cracksit or they
Speaker 4: still have moisture in them. They try to blow those
Speaker 4: out and get them dried out, but you just got
Speaker 4: to get away from the dry out. But then the
Speaker 4: h A five it appears to be really weather dependent.
Speaker 4: So they've really been trying to get on a couple
Speaker 4: of sections for weeks now, and it's just you know,
Speaker 4: when you get rained every month three days, you know,
Speaker 4: just about the time they think it's going to be ready,
Speaker 4: it rains again. So again that's move Ben didn't really
Speaker 4: expect that. I didn't realize it was quite that weather
Speaker 4: dependent when we plan this out. But again, we didn't
Speaker 4: really expect to have the wet conditions that we've had.
Speaker 3: So this is an unusual year, to say the least.
Speaker 3: We're coming off of a couple of droughts and.
Speaker 2: Here we are. That's been great.
Speaker 4: If we had done this year and a half ago,
Speaker 4: it'd have been perfect.
Speaker 2: It wasn't perfect. Apparently this is the rain dance, Mike.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't need to do this every year. You can
Speaker 2: buy drop a rain. Nobody is irrigating their yards. It
Speaker 2: was perfect.
Speaker 4: So anyway, so yeah, so that's the we are not done.
Speaker 4: We're not done. I believe that the first are they'd
Speaker 4: like to target for the HA five is on Virginia,
Speaker 4: and so part of it is too. There were some
Speaker 4: subcontractor issues on the project.
Speaker 2: We weren't happy with them, and neither was neither was
Speaker 2: the contract.
Speaker 4: Holberg Asphalt was the main contract, the general contractor, and
Speaker 4: they were not happy with the chip seal that was
Speaker 4: going down on Bison and Madison in Tuxedo, and so
Speaker 4: with some pressure from us and also internally on their end,
Speaker 4: we they've got a new chip seal contract that's doing
Speaker 4: a lot better job they've done Virginia. They did the
Speaker 4: south mile of Madison and they will continue on down
Speaker 4: Price when the should get some good weather this week
Speaker 4: to do that. The crack siling got out ahead them
Speaker 4: as well again, finally got that going on the water
Speaker 4: road and so but that the first round of HA
Speaker 4: five should be there in Virginia. I've told them though,
Speaker 4: if they can't get you know, there's some areas that
Speaker 4: hold water. They're in Virginia, so they're still having trouble
Speaker 4: with that, Let's get moved over to some other areas
Speaker 4: and just get it going. Get somewhere else so we
Speaker 4: can get starwhere else and get it going.
Speaker 3: So the now, the loose gravel that's on there, it's
Speaker 3: part of the process, and they do they sweep it
Speaker 3: off before they do the HA five. They do. We
Speaker 3: didn't anticipate that it would be down as long as
Speaker 3: it was. I know that some of it has actually
Speaker 3: washed off and probably into our drainage system. So that
Speaker 3: certainly was an ideal. Anybody who's noticed the sandbags and
Speaker 3: things like that at the edge of the drainage, that's
Speaker 3: what that's for. It was to try to keep it
Speaker 3: out of the drainage systems. So they have cleaned up
Speaker 3: some of them normally, I believe they do that right
Speaker 3: before they apply the HA.
Speaker 4: Five typically how they do it, yes, And so we've
Speaker 4: been working with them on that to see if we
Speaker 4: can speed that process up as well. So again it's
Speaker 4: a learning curve for us and for them taking some
Speaker 4: MPs on it.
Speaker 3: But they're from Utah and I don't think it rains
Speaker 3: there exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: That's part of it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: I will say though they've done this. They've done this
Speaker 4: in Texas, they've done this in the Carolinas. I mean
Speaker 4: there's been some there's areas that some other areas will
Speaker 4: be more similar to to Oklahoma that have done this.
Speaker 4: So quite honestly, there's actually communities and there's Claremore Still
Speaker 4: Water and Losso have all used v h A five
Speaker 4: product without the chips portion somewhere on residential streets and
Speaker 4: things like that. They've done that in Oklahoma and the
Speaker 4: actually those those communities have been happy with it.
Speaker 2: Probably did it during a drought. They probably didn't.
Speaker 4: I guess droughts are good for something potentially, so so
Speaker 4: so we're working through it, and I think it'll be
Speaker 4: good in the end. I think it the longer it'll
Speaker 4: be good. But we're working through the growing pains of it.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Micah.
Speaker 3: There's there's a couple of other road projects going on
Speaker 3: Madison north of Tuxedo that's going to be essentially a
Speaker 3: complete reconstruction of that road.
Speaker 4: Yep, it's gonna look that That road when it's done
Speaker 4: will looks similar to where it goes in front of
Speaker 4: Sooner Park. It's gonna be a similar type road section
Speaker 4: and there may be two lanes, a little bit wider section,
Speaker 4: curve and gutter.
Speaker 3: And that really only goes up to about the water
Speaker 3: tower up there and then but there there is plans
Speaker 3: to do a level up and over already done. Keith
Speaker 3: already done. On vacation.
Speaker 2: Go on vacation. Get out of Keith Innry's way.
Speaker 4: You'll get grow to that guy.
Speaker 2: See yeah it No, they got that done.
Speaker 4: It looks great. It looked very similar to what we
Speaker 4: did on Minnesota and that'll last us a long time.
Speaker 4: And so we're going to tie in right at that
Speaker 4: point where he picked up and with this project us construction.
Speaker 3: So Madison will be drastically improved north of there. The
Speaker 3: only other really big one we've got going on right
Speaker 3: now is Tuxedo Bridge. Of course it's been it's still
Speaker 3: ongoing delayed, but it's it's still going right.
Speaker 4: It's still going and we should wrap that up hopefully
Speaker 4: here in the July, first part of August.
Speaker 2: That's going really well.
Speaker 4: So we actually went ahead and we went ahead and
Speaker 4: advertised bids for the Sunset project, trying to transition into
Speaker 4: that one as well, since we've got a contractor up here. Again,
Speaker 4: not a guarantee that they're going to be low bid,
Speaker 4: but we're hoping that we'll get a good, really good
Speaker 4: price from Wildcat Construction since they're already in town. But
Speaker 4: uh yeah, something's going well, it's actually going really well.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Tom, I think we're probably about out
Speaker 3: of time here. But if Jason's got just a second house,
Speaker 3: house sales tap, so I know the answer, and I
Speaker 3: don't like it.
Speaker 6: Sounds taxes not well down six looks great, integratings, no
Speaker 6: start off the year this way, so you know that's down. Gosh,
Speaker 6: we're one hundre one hundred ten thousand dollars below what
Speaker 6: we had had to spate roluntarily. It's you know, one
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty thousand dollars down compared to previous year. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and US tax was U SAX, you know, it's down
Speaker 6: sixt US taxes up nine point three percent. Obviously they're
Speaker 6: not weighted the same taxes, a lot of smaller sales tax.
Speaker 6: But the budgetary budgetarily the variance you know, was forty
Speaker 6: two thousand dollars ahead of war we budget, so somewhat
Speaker 6: offset's about the about half of what we what we
Speaker 6: saw the decline in sales tax.
Speaker 2: So not not too terrible, but not not good. Not
Speaker 2: a great way to stay.
Speaker 6: And you know, we're looking back at our historical I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, you go back to twenty one, we're right
Speaker 6: in line with twenty one, pretty close to twenty you know,
Speaker 6: I say, twenty one, twenty two, fistar, twenty two, pretty
Speaker 6: close to fiscal year, you know, twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 2: Last week, we just had a really large July, so
Speaker 2: sometimes that that impact was good. It was good last year.
Speaker 6: I have a large July and it kind of hurts
Speaker 6: our metics starting off with this July.
Speaker 2: So it always works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, thanks Jason and Tom, thank you
Speaker 3: as always appreciate you.
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