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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right Show.

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We are very very excited to have someone with us

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that probably a lot of folks in our audience are

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already familiar with through social media. Robbie Starbuck is our guest,

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and you may recognize his posts from going after lots

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and lots of companies about their DEI programs and really

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creating awareness and actual like online campaigns to get those

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companies to stop the crazy DEI stuff that they've got

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going on. But you may not know that Robbie used

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to be a music video director. So we want to

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find out how you started at point A and are

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now basically at point Z.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're diametrically opposed sort of arenas, right.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting.

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Speaker 2: They're both probably the most difficult arenas to you know,

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sort of penetrate in different ways. And you know, on

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the music side of things, essentially, if I go all

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the way back as a kid, I was just in

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love with music and in love with films, and so

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I knew I wanted to, you know, do something in

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that arena, and I figured, why don't I justfuse the

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two together? Right, And so as a kid, I was

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like sneaking into shows and filming artists and then showing

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them what I filmed. And it was probably awful at first.

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I was probably terrible because I'm completely self taught, right,

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and you know, eventually it was good enough where one

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of them was like, hey, we want to use this.

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Can we give you a couple hundred bucks, you know,

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or something like that. It was something ridiculous, and.

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Speaker 4: Like, okay, where was it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I was in the area. I lived into Mecula, California.

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That's where I mostly grew up, but like outside of

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that area. I mean, like I would drive like hundreds

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of miles sometimes, you know, at like fifteen sixteen years

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old to go do this. So you know, I'd kind

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of go anywhere and try to film artists that you know,

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I felt like, okay, maybe people will want to see

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what they're like live, right, And you got to remember,

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this is early on where there's not a lot of

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videos of artists online, you know, on the Internet.

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Speaker 4: But like this is like nineties, is like two thousand,

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Speaker 3: This the two thousands?

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Speaker 2: You know, this was early on early YouTube, you know,

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things like that. So I was one of the early

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people in the partner program at YouTube, okay, because we

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had tons of music videos. So I actually did interesting

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deals with labels. Like I think, in Hollywood, it's very

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hard to break in if you're not you know, connected

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to you know, the Hollywood elite, or you're not from

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a wealthy family or something along those lines, right, right,

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And for me, I was none of those things, and

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so I had to have a differentiator. And for me,

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it was that we were breaking the mold of how

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this had always worked. When I came into the industry,

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everything had kind of still been shot on film, and

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it was very expensive to shoot a music video and

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very expensive to shoot a commercial, really expensive shoot anything, right,

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things be so expensive because anybody who wasn't a part

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of that world basically had a barrier to entry. They

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couldn't get over right. My production company changed that because

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we would go to these record labels and say, hey,

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we can do these videos for one tenth of the

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costs that you're paying for now, and a lot of

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them would say, okay, we'll take the gamble on that, right,

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because it's one tenth of the cost. We'll see what

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he can do. And we were doing things digital and

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barely anybody was. In fact, a video I did for

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The Smashing Pumpkins I believe was the first music video

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ever shot on the red camera, which, if you like,

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kind of look at the history of cameras now the

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red is used, you know, I'll kind of be industry

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widen in many respects along with the Ari Alexa.

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Speaker 3: So we were very very early.

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Speaker 2: We had had that first one that we were able

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to shoot with that and had worked with the company

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to do that, and so we were breaking new ground

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in terms of that and also how we.

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Speaker 3: Shot and marketed the videos.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any directors at the time who did

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similar deals to what I was doing, where I was

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going to artists and saying I will actually fund your video,

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but I want the rights so that I can monetize

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it on the internet. And so we owned the rights

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to a lot of videos, and it was basically just

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a marketing tool for the artist and they couldn't see

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the future and the record labels couldn't see the future

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in online monetization, but we did. I saw it as

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a long term investment. So some of those videos go

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on to have hundreds and hundreds of millions if not

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billions of views on the Internet, and music videos monetized

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quite well, right, So yeah, we were at like the

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forefront of all that. And I built the company from

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the ground up. I was the sole owner, never took

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out a bank loan anything like that, so it was

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like really like a bootstrap operation, and we ended up

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with over a dozen directors across the world doing commercials,

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music videos, documentaries, working with the major studios. And then

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in twenty fifteen, you know, I was kind of on

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my own journey too because my kids were getting older,

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at least our oldest was, and I was starting to

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see things through a new lens, and that was the

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lens of like a dad whose daughter and her peers

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are starting to engage with the world and culture. And

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I had to like examine my own in packed right

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on culture and I'm like, I'm really putting lipstick on

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a pig, and I'm compromising my values on a daily basis.

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And if I'm being really honest with myself, I can't

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raise my kids to have integrity and live out their

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values if I'm compromising mine every day. And so I've

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got to be willing to take risks and trust God

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and you know, do something different. And so around that

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same time, obviously we have the primaries politically, and I

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was always very conservative. My family's from Cuba, so I

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shouldn't be a surprise. I'm like as anti communists as

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they come. But I was always very deeply interested in it,

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you know, because I understood how lucky I was to

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be an American. And so during that election, I talked

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to my wife, my wife from Texas, and I said,

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I feel like I need to say something because I

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also was sort of an anomaly in the sense that

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I had built an online following already and that was

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something not very many directors had done before. And so

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I was like, I'm going to talk about you know,

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this stuff. I feel like there's sort of different rules

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for different folks, and if you're on the left, you're

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allowed to talk about it, but if you're on our side,

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you're supposed to shut up exactly, And I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a like a like a I mean,

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were you out there talking on your channels or just

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doing the produced videos like We're if you when you

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made that decision to say something. Had people already been

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familiar with you as a person, or just your work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, both, you know, they'd been familiar with both,

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so I had you know, you know, there's directors like

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in the old school cinematic universe, like Tarantino who you know,

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they have like a public persona like that was kind

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of how things were with me online at that point.

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And so it's different arena, but it's you know, sort

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of similar thing where people know your name and kind

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of what you're about and things like that. And so

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I came out and not I endorsed Trump early on

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in the Republican primary, which it wasn't enough. I came

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out as a Republican like to come out and endorse Trump.

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It was like a whole different.

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Speaker 3: Thing, right.

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Speaker 2: My company at the time had to deal with one

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of the largest movie studios, and I remember they called

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me and they were like, you know, Robbie, it's not

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too late to go back on this.

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Speaker 3: You can go back on this.

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Speaker 2: Just say you didn't understand it, you didn't understand his

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immigration policy, you know, so on and so forth. And

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I said, well, that's going to be tough to do

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because that was actually the selling point for me. You know,

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the immigration policy was the selling point. Wow, you know,

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and as a Latino is like I think, in their

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eyes a special betrayal, right because like I'm not supposed

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to hold these views, but they're not. They're not incredibly

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intelligent about politics in Hollywood, so I don't think they

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understood the nuance of like Cubans tend to be very

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anti illegal immigration, you know, and they're sort of like different.

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and quite a lot of them actually think legal immigration

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is a bad thing. But I said no, I said

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I'm not going to do that, and I knew what

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was coming. You know, before I came out in indoorstrump,

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my wife and I had the conversation.

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Speaker 3: We knew I was going to lose business. We knew

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it was going to affect the company, and we were right.

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Speaker 2: You know, Hollywood is in many respects forgiving to the

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very worst things. Hollywood will forgive you if you sexually

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abuse people, It will forgive you. If you are the

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worst sort of narcissist and treat people terribly. Hollywood will

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forgive you if you rape people. Even Hollywood will forgive

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the worst behavior. But Hollywood will not forgive one thing,

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and that's coming out and being conservative. It's coming out

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and saying you know what, actually I oppose this left

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wing ideology. I opposed this crazy Marxist, you know, belief

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system you're trying to force onto America. That's the one

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thing Hollywood won't forgive. And I knew that I was

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okay with it, and so we had kind of trusted

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God that, you know, we were going to go in

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a different direction. And at the time, my wife and

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I had had sort of wisely invested in everything, and

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so we felt like it was a risk we should

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take if we didn't, you know who was.

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Speaker 1: So was the backlash that you faced as bad as

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you expected? Was it worse? Did you lose a lot

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of followers in addition to business deals or like? Was

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it a combination of everything.

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Speaker 2: I think I was pretty clear i'd going into coming

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out politically. So the backlash wasn't worse than I expected.

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you know, it was it was pretty mixed. You know,

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in why if you think about it, around twenty fifteen,

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like they were still building up the propaganda to make

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people totally terrified in the normal population of this idea

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of voting, you know, this way. So people were more

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curious than anything else. There wasn't sort of the orange

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man bad trumped arrangement syndrome yet, you know, so it

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was more curiosity. Obviously, there were some people, mostly Hollywood

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based people, very small group, who were angry at me

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online and were like, you know, how could you This

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is awful? And I got a lot of text messages

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that were like, you know.

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Speaker 5: What about friends and people within the company that knew you.

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But then when you came out, You're like, Okay, I'm

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gonna go ahead and I'm gonna endorse Trump. I'm going to

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do this because we've experienced that. Yeah, just personally like that,

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that's it's been tough. I just I'm just wondering, Like, personally,

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that was experience that was very different.

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Speaker 2: So, like in terms of employees, it was a very

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different response. And I never ideologically tested employees. I was

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never like, you know, you all agree with me on politics,

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you know, that was I was always hiring people like

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are you the best for the job? Right, And so

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obviously there was a range of political views. So I

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had some employees come to me and be like, this

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is awesome you're doing this. Had other employees that were like, hey,

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I disagree with you, but I know you're a good person,

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and I don't like what people are saying about you.

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I've defended you and blah blah blah things along those lines.

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So people who actually were like day to day basis

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worked with me, they knew that, you know, even if

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they disagreed with me, that my reasons were, you know,

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not because I was like.

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Speaker 3: A Nazi, right like, which is great.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy and it was crazy to to sort

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of frame in that direction. But then you had, you know,

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sort of the Hollywood friendship matrix, right which is a

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total force. And I always knew that I've never been

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one of those people. Like to give you an idea,

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this probably says quite a bit about me. Like even

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were like you know, televised award show, I never went ever.

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was not in alignment with their value set, and that

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it was a place I was going to be deeply

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spiritually uncomfortable and I would have to you know, it

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would put me in weird positions, and I didn't want

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to be in that position. Ye, And so you know,

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now we're finding out just how sordid and terrible it is.

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as weird understanding it is. You know, today, I knew

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it was gross, you know, I knew there was sort

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of this gross quid pro quo that was going on.

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the worst things in that industry. But there's not real friendships, right,

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Speaker 2: You're You're as valuable to somebody as the step you

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are on the ladder. For them to get on and

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get to the next place. So it's really about, like,

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how can you help people right in it You're no

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longer helpful to advancing people. You're sort of you're useless, right,

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ton into friendships, you know, in that direction. I invested

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into you know, my family, my wife, my kids, because

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that's the thing that lasts, that's the thing like, you know,

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I always remind myself this, like when I die one day,

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hopefully it's in a very long time, but you never know, right,

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I know that the people who are going to be

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there are my wife and kids. And outside of that,

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you know, nothing is guaranteed, nothing's promised, And you know,

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that's that's what matters to me, is those people that

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are going to be there and making the world a

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better place for them while I'm here.

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Speaker 4: And that's what well, And.

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Speaker 1: You're obviously you're doing all the right things to be

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loud and proud about your own beliefs and also to

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make people aware of some of the crazy stuff that's

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going on. Talk about the film that Elon Musk even retweeted,

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and it has millions and millions of views. This The

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War on Children? What inspired you to make it? And

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tell people who haven't seen it a little bit of

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the background.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. Yeah, it's been incredible.

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Speaker 2: The War on Children now has crossed over sixty million views,

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and we never imagined that when we were making it.

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watched documentary of like the last decade.

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Speaker 3: But it just popped off.

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Speaker 2: It went crazy after Elon you know, backed it and

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put it out there online, and Donald Trump Junior supported it,

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and a whole range of other people. I can't I

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can't even go down the list. Just very thankful so

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many people supported it. And you know, the fact that

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it hits such a broad swath of people has really

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built a beautiful legacy for the movie. And that's that

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it has helped spur and encourage a lot of child

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protection laws. So even here in Tennessee, it really helped

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us with the death penalty for pedophiles. That was something

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my wife and I made a big priority and lobbied

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for relentlessly to make sure that we had the just

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worst consequences possible for child rapists. And we were able

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to get that done here in Tennessee, in in other

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states where you know, lawmakers watched the movie and and

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they talked with us, and they felt, you know, like

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this was important. And then also getting rid of these horrific,

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barbaric procedures that were being carried out on kids in

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the name of transgenderism. The film has helped a lot

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to open up people's eyes, you know. I think the

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interesting thing about the movie is rand Paul's wife, Kelly,

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the film is she knows so many people who just

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don't believe that horrible things are really happening, or that

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there's a coordinated, you know, element or effort out there

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to derail the future of our children and to sexualize

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them and screw them up mentally. And so being able

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to share this movie with people has been able to

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be an eye opener. Right, So, if they don't believe

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that there's these horrific drag shows in front of kids,

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they don't believe that kids are getting you know, surgical

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procedures at thirteen years old in the name of transgenderism.

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If they don't believe that schools are intentionally teaching them

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Marxist concepts are intentionally sexualizing them. The movie opens their

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eyes because we're using sources anybody can trust if they're

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a Democrat, you know, independent, Republican, doesn't really matter anybody

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across the board.

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Speaker 3: Like the media called.

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Speaker 2: Me a lot of different names, and they really went

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after me over the movie. But one thing they couldn't

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do was they couldn't say I was wrong. They had

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a very difficult time with that because they tried relentlessly

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to fact check and go through the film, and we

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were able to back up everything with pure reviewed research,

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with sources they trust.

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Speaker 3: I mean, some of the you.

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Speaker 2: Know, evidence that we bring forward are people that you know,

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really ideologically disagree with us, like people from Berkeley who

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are professors there, and pure reviewed research that has been

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in you know, sort of the most respected left wing publications.

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to sort of poke holes in the arguments we're making

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because we're using their own sources.

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Speaker 3: And that was very intentional.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to have only things that I trusted

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and knew to be true. I wanted to really delve

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into the whole swath of evidence out there and have

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a movie that could be convincing for somebody who doesn't

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already agree with me, and so we spent a lot

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of time and effort on that. My favorite thing though

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about the film was doing the teen focus groups, where

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we got to sit down with teenagers and ask them

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sort of their experience and what it's like growing up today,

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what challenges they face. And I was really surprised by

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that because we weren't sure it was something we were

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going to include in the movie when we had the

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idea to do these focus groups, because my first inclination

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was teenagers are not going to tell us anything. They're

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going to be very stonewall. They're going to be closed off.

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It's going to be awkward and weird. They're not going

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to want to talk with us about this stuff. And

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they were so incredibly open. It was like the dam

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had broken and it was just rushing water of emotion

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everywhere of them sharing everything going on for kids their age,

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and we learned a lot. You know, not just as

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you know human beings concerned about this, but as parents,

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you know about what these kids are dealing with. And

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there's sort of a reflex I think from our generation

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and the older generations to you know, sort of judge

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this generation in a harsh way and say like, oh,

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they're they're coddled, or you know, they you know, I

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don't try as hard or whatever it might be. But

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the truth is they have a very difficult set of

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circumstances they're dealing with that are.

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Speaker 3: Very different from what we grew up with.

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Speaker 2: You There's pressures and things that just we never had

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to deal with as kids, and I'm not sure we're

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entirely honest about that, So, you know, I think that's

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a really great thing about the movie is that it

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opens up people's eyes to all the challenges they do

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face and things that we never had to think about

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as kids.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I agree with you. I think that they

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do face a whole different set of challenges. And I

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also think that the pendulum is swinging a little bit.

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We see that at least I maybe it's just because

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I want to believe that, because I do have I

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have a thirty five year old, a thirty year old,

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and a fifteen year old, so we run the gamut

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in our family. But the fifteen year old, I look

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at her generation and I think, I mean, I see

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them as being more conservative. I see the pendulum less woke.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're going to be extremely right wing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too, Robbie, I absolutely do.

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Speaker 5: So when you talk about those kids being open and

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talking about their you know, their issues in this generation,

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I really do think they are rejecting all of the crazy,

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woke crap that the previous generation. I don't even know

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what that would be. Would that be millennial? I don't

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even know. I can't keep track of all the generations,

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but I but the yeah, because we're Gen xers, you know,

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and so I just I feel like they are embracing America,

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and they're embracing being proud of who they are as

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Americans and knowing the difference between a boy and a girl,

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and you know, those are the things that we understood

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and it was just common sense. And I feel like

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common sense is making a comeback and that you know,

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all of that other stuff, the garbage is starting to

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go away because they're tired of it too, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the globalist left made a horrific miscalculation when it

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came to COVID. Okay, because COVID changed the game. They

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stuck a bunch of teenagers and middle schoolers in their

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rooms with nothing but time to research, okay, yes, and

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watch videos and start to think for themselves. And what happened,

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they turned extraordinarily right wing. When you're given free access

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to information, they shifted away from the left. And also

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the other big mistake they made was making teachers so

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incredibly woken crazy right, because what happens when you're a

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teenage boy and you're put in a classroom with a

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lady trying to control your words, control your every movement.

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Natural Yeah, your natural biology is somehow toxic and destructive,

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and exactly you should deny every part of it or

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else your persona on grata.

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Speaker 3: It was a big mistake by.

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Speaker 2: The globalist left because these kids turned to the right

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and they're going to stay there. And the truth is,

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you had the young millennials were extremely far left because

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they were on the front end of, you know, sort

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of the shifting of institutions. And the media still was

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controlled by entities that were able to sort of program

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the masses for decades and decades, and they were the

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very tail end of that operation. When COVID happened, the

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media landscape shifted, and that was a part of this

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big radical change we see everybody younger, you know, high

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school and younger had this big shift. And I can

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tell you this as a data I saw that shift

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in a really interesting way because my oldest is sixteen.

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we moved to Tennessee, and then when we first came

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to Tennessee, I can tell you right now, all of

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the kids in her peer group were either non political,

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or if their families were conservative, they kept quiet, or

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they were openly very to the left, and they were

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indoctrinating sort of everybody with their viewpoints and bullying everybody

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to be like you're going to be a part of

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the climate club, or you're going to be this or

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that or whatever, you know, like some crazy thing. And

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the radical shift that has occurred is such that I

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don't really know of the last time I heard somebody

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their age in their peer group come out and defend

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Democrat policies, priorities or candidates. I don't know that, but

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I can tell you I've seen tons of them in

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maga hats around town during this last election. I've seen

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tons of them talk about politics. I've seen my kids'

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friends follow me online, and I think that's something that's

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weird to me.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I've talked to my daughter about this. I'm like,

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I feel a little weird about that. You know, that

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you're getting so old that like your friends have accounts

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and you guys are following me on the internet. Now

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I feel like I need to watch what I say,

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you know, I'm like, I need to be more careful

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and do things and like the you know, PG version,

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it's hard to get comfortable with the idea that like

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your kids going to college soon, you know, like that's

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that's just rat And.

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Speaker 5: We're seeing it in culture too, like I mean, you're

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seeing it like Late Night is affected by it, we're saying,

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I mean, we're just the landscape I think is changing,

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just all sorts of things.

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Speaker 4: That used to be. It used to be okay to

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beat up on conservatives. It's not. It's not as okay anymore.

480
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Speaker 2: Which no, I'm okay with that, you know, because it's like,

481
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you know, what diametric changed is what diametrically changed is

482
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that back like ten years ago, if you were making

483
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,799
fun of George Bush, there was genuinely a lot to

484
00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:25,599
make fun of, right, It really was like and I

485
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still agreed with the party position then, but I didn't

486
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agree with him. You know, I agreed with like the

487
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you know, sort of general principles, but I disagreed with

488
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him on policy when it came to the war and

489
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things along those lines. That was sort of always an

490
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objective person. There was stuff to make fun of there

491
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,000
that was just funny, right, Like we love the guy.

492
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The way he talked was just kind of like, you know,

493
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you were leaving it open to a lot of combination

494
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extuy tgery isery, and so there was something there. Right now,

495
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so much of our identity is wrapped up in just

496
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common sense that when you go after it, you sound crazy,

497
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and that's that's a good thing, you know. And I

498
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think like it's incumbent on us to stay there in

499
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that common sense, you know, sort of areas, because it's

500
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going to make it very hard for the left to

501
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beat us on any front because it's when you shift

502
00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:21,759
out of that that you become sort of fear game, right,

503
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And we have to be really honest about that, And

504
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so most people want us to be in that common

505
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sense zone. And I think that, you know, we have

506
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to find ways to shift our priorities into being in

507
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that zone and that makes us more able to achieve

508
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what we want to achieve. Right, So, you know, it's

509
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like my argument has always been, let's win every eighty

510
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twenty issue, Like there should be no reason we don't,

511
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because almost every eighty twenty issue is just pure common sense,

512
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and for a long time, both sides of the political

513
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aisle have just left them out there. And during this

514
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last election, what we saw was President Trump grabbed those

515
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eighty twenty e issues and he ran on them.

516
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Speaker 1: Yes, and that includes, you know, the DEI stuff that

517
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you've been obviously really targeting companies that everyone is familiar

518
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with and saying we know what you're doing and we're

519
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:17,960
exposing it to the world so that they can make

520
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a judgment about whether or not what you're doing makes

521
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any sense. And you've had a lot of success with

522
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getting these companies to at least say, yes, we're revising

523
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or we're getting rid of this DEI initiative.

524
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Speaker 4: Do you continue to do.

525
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Speaker 1: That work, how do you choose your targets and what

526
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kind of changes have you seen as a result of

527
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that work.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been incredible what we've been able

529
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to accomplish in the last year, and we've had a

530
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little bit of a slowdown period over the last month

531
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and a half because we're planning some things that will

532
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be happening. Folks will be hearing about that I think

533
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:54,839
will be very exciting. We've still had some wins during

534
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that time period and we're very happy with that. But

535
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I think we'll sort of ramp up and have a

536
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:04,279
lot more companies to announce this summer. But yeah, essentially,

537
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you know, I realized nobody was telling the truth about

538
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what these companies were doing, and in many respects, a

539
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:12,440
lot of them were held hostage, you know, and so

540
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,079
they needed somebody to come in and say, hey, these

541
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people are holding them hostage. We're going to take the

542
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gun out of their hands, right, and we're going to

543
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show people what's happening, and that by virtue of just

544
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,599
sort of exposing it, it's going to bring down a

545
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lot of these, you know, sort of facades that have

546
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been built up. So for the left, it was sort

547
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:35,839
of about exposing how they were paper tigers, right, because

548
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,880
you had these groups like the HRC or Al Sharpton,

549
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and they had built themselves into these sort of mythological

550
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creatures that should be feared by corporate America, right. And

551
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,279
what I did is I showed corporate America they're not

552
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real that they really they don't have the power that

553
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:56,599
they pretend to have, but we do. And we had

554
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to show them that we had to bear our teeth.

555
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And so, you know, my first three companies were our

556
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,880
sort of proving ground. It was companies testing us to

557
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,799
see what are they actually capable of? And I say

558
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:11,599
they instead of me, because like, I'm not Al Sharpton,

559
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,599
this isn't about me. I'm not, you know, so narcissistic

560
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,160
and obsessed with myself that I believe companies are afraid

561
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,319
of me personally. They're afraid of what I represent. They're

562
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,279
afraid of me. I'm a megaphone for this big swath

563
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:25,720
of people, and I'm very blessed to be that megaphone.

564
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And so, you know, we had to prove ourselves and

565
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we did. I think that everybody you know who sort

566
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,519
of supported my campaigns, we made these companies terrified. We

567
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,160
showed the weight that we could carry. We showed the

568
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,920
financial you know, sort of hammer we had. And the

569
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first company that we went up against, Tractor Supply, they

570
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,400
lost over three billion in market cap when we went

571
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after them. John Deere lost over ten billion in market cap,

572
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,079
and then Harley Davidson is still suffering today even after

573
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,279
their CEOs out, because they fought us the longest, and

574
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that was the case. People point to a lot of

575
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different things that are like Walmart or this company or

576
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that company is the reason company started to just kind

577
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of like give you whatever you wanted.

578
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Speaker 3: The truth is it's Harley Davidson.

579
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Speaker 2: Harley Davidson is the company that resulted in other companies

580
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saying we will we will do what you want, you know.

581
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And it's because they saw that if they fought me

582
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and really went after me, that I was going to

583
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,640
be the most punishing and relentless I could possibly be,

584
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and that that was going to do some very bad things.

585
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In fact, Harley Davidson really recently had a board member

586
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resign that is very rare for board members to do,

587
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and in his resignation he wrote essentially that the way

588
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,400
the company mishandled the situation with me could mean the

589
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:47,119
end of the company in total, that they may just

590
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,240
not survive this because they so thoroughly decimated their reputation

591
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:55,000
with their core customer base, and they had gotten so

592
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,000
far out of line and didn't do what they should

593
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have done early on with me. They're not sure there's

594
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any coming back, and there's stock price.

595
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Speaker 3: You know, if you look at it, it still reflects that.

596
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,119
Speaker 2: I mean, it was total decimation, and they got rid

597
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,480
of the CEO, you know, and really what's going to

598
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,519
decide if they live or die as a company is

599
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,400
going to be the direction the new CEO takes it in.

600
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And we're going to be watching that very closely because

601
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,640
if they are not a reformer to get back to

602
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,119
sort of the core of what Harley Davidson is, then

603
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,759
I think we're going to have something to say about

604
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,720
it if they do go in the right direction and

605
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,000
they do reform back to sort of the culture that

606
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,400
Harley Davidson is supposed to be about, just sort of

607
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:41,119
an American icon, right. It's like celebration. It's not explicitly political,

608
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,680
you know. And that's the thing actually I think has

609
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,480
made our campaign very successful is I'm not telling companies

610
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,039
you need to adopt my politics. I'm saying stay out

611
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:51,519
of politics. There's no reason for you as a company

612
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:54,759
to have a position on transgenderism. It's ridiculous, you know,

613
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,400
there's no reason you guys should have a policy on abortion.

614
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,079
It's ridiculous. You're a company. Make your products, like I

615
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,000
don't care what it is. Like, you know, you could

616
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,480
be Gatorade or Pepsi or you know, Walmart, Like, I

617
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:10,480
don't care what you make, how you sell it, Like,

618
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,079
just make good products, provide great service. Celebrate America, you

619
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,000
know if you if you're using our money, you know,

620
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,599
like try to do good for our country.

621
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Speaker 3: But stay out of politics.

622
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: Study the info, like did you have moles everywhere? Like

623
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,400
did people that worked on the inside volunteer the information

624
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:31,400
and you know, ask to work with you? How did

625
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:31,880
you do that?

626
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,319
Speaker 2: I probably have more corporate sources than anybody in America

627
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,599
American history now.

628
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:37,119
Speaker 3: At this point.

629
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:38,559
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

630
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have so many whistleblowers. It's absurd. Any company

631
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,519
you can pick out of a hat, we have a

632
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,960
source there. Any any major fortune five hundred company, you know,

633
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:50,440
if you pull them out of a hat, we have

634
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,480
a source at the company.

635
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 5: And the brands that are the brands that are taking

636
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640
some of the positions that they do are some of

637
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,519
the most surprising brands to do.

638
00:30:58,599 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: So that's what's so bad.

639
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,359
Speaker 1: Flaying to me you know, which is why I think

640
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,799
these campaigns are so effective, right, because these are the

641
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,680
companies that people are like a two.

642
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 5: Ay two John here and and tract Or supply are

643
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,720
you paying?

644
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: So we plan this out, I think very effectively, which

645
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,359
was that we were going to start with companies, exposing

646
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:24,319
companies that have massively conservative consumer bases, prove our power there,

647
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,559
but also understand this is psychological. You know, this whole

648
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,160
Wokeness operation was psychological, and we need to do something

649
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,519
akin to that in reverse in terms of influencing the

650
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,319
direction our country goes. So what we needed to do

651
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,960
was build up the psychological understanding that we were the

652
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,240
incoming wave, the tidal wave that could not be stopped.

653
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: But you had to build that up, right.

654
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,319
Speaker 2: So you start with these companies that just can't deny

655
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:56,680
their consumer bases are on my side, right, But eventually

656
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,200
that wave gets so big it's a tsunami that sort

657
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,359
of engulfs everybody.

658
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Right.

659
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,519
Speaker 2: So the tipping point for that was Walmart. When I

660
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:11,200
got Walmart to back off everything, that was when corporate

661
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,440
America really kind of fell and they said, Okay, we

662
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,880
need to aggressively start to assess how we do things differently,

663
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,319
because if our biggest employer in the country has changed

664
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:29,160
and they're rejecting wokeness openly, we're in trouble, right. And

665
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,119
so that was when the social fabric sort of changed,

666
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,119
and you saw the psychology flip, and you saw frantic

667
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,359
board meetings for you know, companies to stop this before

668
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,839
they're the next company that's exposed. I mean, you got

669
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:46,319
to understand too. Companies spent New York Times admitted this.

670
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,640
They spent absurd, absurd sums of money to do opposition

671
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,480
research on me. They have what The New York Times

672
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:57,880
called a new cottage industry built around how you handle

673
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,759
Robbie Starbuck. There was a whole industry of advisors and

674
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,720
communications professionals getting hired for how you potentially deal with

675
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,799
me if I come after you.

676
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,279
Speaker 4: And what were they expecting to find?

677
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:10,759
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think it's one of them.

678
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,759
Speaker 4: What were they going to do?

679
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: I really don't fault them for this.

680
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,559
Speaker 2: And because any competent corporate CEO, if they could spend

681
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,079
a little bit of money to try to get in

682
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,480
front of something and say, hey, this person actually committed

683
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,519
this crime and they haven't told anybody about it, I

684
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:29,559
get it. Like, I mean, it's it's fair game. You

685
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,759
put yourself in the public arena, people are going to

686
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:33,440
go and they're going to do oper research on you.

687
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,799
Totally fine with me. They wasted their money though, you

688
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:42,240
know exactly. Ceo come back to me, he says, you know,

689
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:43,799
I got it at this after we made a deal

690
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,880
with them, he goes, Robbie, I got to tell you

691
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,960
you totally wasted our money. You know, we we did

692
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,160
all this research on it, and at the end of it,

693
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,319
you know, the answer we got essentially is you were

694
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:56,240
one of the most boring people they had ever.

695
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:59,079
Speaker 3: Come up for our They said, you don't leave your

696
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:02,519
house almost ever. You know, you you don't.

697
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: Only have hobbies, you know, you're just like you're with

698
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:06,960
your family or you're working, and that's basically it.

699
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:07,839
Speaker 3: Like that's all you do.

700
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: You don't drink, you don't do drugs like you know,

701
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:12,760
any of those things. And I'm like, yeah, well I'm

702
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,199
you know, I'm content with what I've got. You know,

703
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239
I'm not searching for anything. I don't have some hole

704
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,639
in my heart I'm trying to fill. You know, I'm

705
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,719
a pretty happy person actually, So you know, I thought

706
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480
that was funny, but it's you know, if you think

707
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:27,840
about it, you really can't blame them.

708
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,559
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to.

709
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Speaker 2: Take a shot at it, right, You've got to try,

710
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,800
because if there was some horrible thing, you know, and

711
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,840
in my in my background, I mean, like you'd want

712
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,480
to use that as a company, right, you'd want to

713
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,159
go out there and be like, hey, this guy criticizing

714
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,360
us is actually you know whatever it is, right, Yeah,

715
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,079
So I don't I don't blame them for that. But

716
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,440
it's interesting the desperation that sort of increased after Walmart,

717
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:52,280
and I think in many respects that's that sort of

718
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:54,920
shifted the needle. And you got to keep in mind,

719
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,280
by the way this was happening, all of this, you know,

720
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,320
started well before the election. You know, we were to

721
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,519
build up this changing mindset before the election, very intentionally

722
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440
because we wanted to make people feel safer as you

723
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,280
got closer to the election being open about your rejection

724
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,920
of wokeness, because if you go back a year before

725
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,599
the election, people were still very afraid to speak out

726
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,320
about these things, especially in the workplace. And I think

727
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,840
one of our greatest achievements through this campaign is the

728
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,440
fact that people are no longer afraid in their workplaces

729
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:28,400
in many cases to speak up and push back and say, hey, actually,

730
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,920
this could be a real liability for us, This could

731
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,639
be a real problem for the company, that this is

732
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,840
out there, that we're doing this. I think we should

733
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,159
probably be careful with this new Department of Justice, with

734
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,800
this new you know, like people are not afraid to

735
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,320
speak up about these things anymore, and that's huge.

736
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,519
Speaker 1: I think I want to lead you to Elon's you know,

737
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,280
revival of Twitter. So funny because you know, you think

738
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,840
about how free people immediately felt when he bought it,

739
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,800
and people were like testing the waters right and like posting,

740
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,199
can we say gay and retarded now? And so they

741
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,480
were like doing it, and it's just been such this

742
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,880
amazing transformation. I think that did help people feel more

743
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,079
courageous about being loud and proud, just.

744
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:14,079
Speaker 5: Everything, just being being out of exactly just being themselves.

745
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:16,960
I mean, for years we would get emails of people saying,

746
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,400
I agree with what you guys say, but I can't

747
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,239
say it on my college campus, I can't say it

748
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,760
at work. I can't say I can't be conservative out

749
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,960
loud and proud. It's ridiculous. But now I feel like

750
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,119
more and more people can they can just be conservative

751
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,280
walking around, which is a really beautiful thing, right, And

752
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,039
it's largely in part to obviously the administration, but to

753
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,719
the work that you do too, So it's wonderful.

754
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: It's a great thing.

755
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's a conversation like we're being

756
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,599
really honest. President Trump is his last term, and if

757
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,880
you look across the landscape, one of the really important

758
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,440
parts of his legacy is this activist base that sort

759
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,320
of has a major influence. It's in the grassroots right

760
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,360
that's going to outlive him, and it was largely predicated

761
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,320
on people boldly sort of standing up for him from

762
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,679
twenty sixteen on, or really twenty fifteen on. I think

763
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,159
that is going to be a huge part of his legacy,

764
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,599
is that the people who sort of came from that

765
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:23,440
in twenty fifteen will long term be real, you know,

766
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,840
sort of shifters and shapers of culture in this country.

767
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,480
And I think we're going to see I think we're

768
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,079
ascendant on the right, not just politically but culturally, and

769
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,639
I think we have an opportunity for total dominance. There's

770
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:41,039
a lot of little, you know, micro factors that have

771
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:42,920
to be considered in things that you have to be

772
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,679
good at and you can't sort of screw up your opportunity.

773
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,280
But let's just say we do ninety percent of things

774
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,880
right or eighty percent of things right. In these opportunity

775
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,440
pools we have right now, we could be culturally dominant

776
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:55,840
for a very long period.

777
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,679
Speaker 3: And I love here.

778
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: I love that too. Gosh, please let that. Yes, I have.

779
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: Everything's building up in that direction, right. So, like, look

780
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,800
at the media landscape right now. If you had told

781
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,559
me ten years ago, or told anybody ten years ago

782
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,280
that the right would become dominant in the media landscape,

783
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,119
people would say, I don't think so. I mean, the

784
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,559
left owns the media right, but we are, you know,

785
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:20,800
I mean for all the shit we give mainstream media,

786
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,239
the truth is, at this point we now have more

787
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,039
power than them in independent media. You know, if I

788
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:27,920
put up a video about a company, it gets more

789
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,199
views in CNN in primetime a week for a week.

790
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,519
You know, Like if you take CNN's ratings for a

791
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:35,480
week in primetime, combine it together, like one of my

792
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,159
videos on wokeness at a company will get more views

793
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:39,599
than that and.

794
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: More social action too.

795
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: The thing that's breaking down now is the structure of

796
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,000
you know, how those news agencies and things were compensated,

797
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,920
right because and you're seeing this with Stephen Colbert, right,

798
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:53,679
so the Emperor has no clothes.

799
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:55,599
Speaker 3: They lost forty million.

800
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: Dollars on the show because advertisers don't want to pay

801
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,800
when you don't have that many eyeballs, right, especially in

802
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,239
key demos. Well, then you've got this shifting landscape on

803
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,280
our side, which is that we have eyeballs. But the

804
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,199
advertisers were told for so long by these different agencies

805
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,400
like you can't give them money, you can't advertise with them,

806
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,599
you know. Now you're going to get into this new,

807
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,239
you know, sort of arena where they have to advertise

808
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,039
with independent media because that's where the eyeballs are.

809
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,199
Speaker 3: And the truth is we're just beating them, you know.

810
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,079
And so.

811
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,679
Speaker 2: That's really important for how you see the future culturally,

812
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,199
because if we were able to do it there, we

813
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,719
can certainly do it in Hollywood and music and other

814
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,400
places too. The thing that's important that we should take

815
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,519
from this is we didn't win that fight with the

816
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:45,599
media by trying to take control of their institutions.

817
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 3: We built our own.

818
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: And that's the thing we have to be very cognizant

819
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,960
of as we approach these other fights. We're not going

820
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,880
to win the fight with Hollywood by going and it

821
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,559
being a part of Hollywood. We're going to beat it

822
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400
by making great things outside the system that people want

823
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:02,639
to do.

824
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,199
Speaker 4: That's such an incredible point.

825
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so the barrier to entry you know too,

826
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,880
like if they don't want to, if they fight us

827
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,719
getting into the movie theaters and things like that, like

828
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,960
they did with the War on Children in Canada, we

829
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,440
were actually banned from movie theaters, you know, So if

830
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,000
they want to play that game, they're again kicking themselves

831
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:25,079
the same way they did when they tried to ban

832
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,880
people from TV shows and news programs because their voices

833
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,239
were too controversial or whatever.

834
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: Despite people having.

835
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: Putting the explicit lyrics label on a record album and

836
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,079
expecting a teenager not to want it more.

837
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,039
Speaker 2: You're going to find avenues to reach people like we

838
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,400
did with our movie. You know. Our numbers in Canada

839
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,519
were fantastic despite the ban on the movies at movie theaters,

840
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,000
because people wanted to see it and it made them

841
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:51,599
more interested. And why did they ban this movie? You

842
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,639
know what's so dangerous about it? And then people would

843
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:57,000
watch it, they'd be like, that's weird. This movie just

844
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,519
wanted to protect kids, Like it's it's literally just like,

845
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,360
let's take the issue of pedophiles or mental health that

846
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,880
are in the movie, right, we don't politicize it in

847
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,880
the movie. We're very, very neutrally talking about the issues

848
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,440
kids face when it comes to sexualization and mental health

849
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,360
and the fact that we have the most depressed generation

850
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:17,039
in human history. This is this is the most mentally

851
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:21,320
ill generation in human history. And I think again you

852
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,519
talk about why this shift occurred politically for this upcoming generation,

853
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:29,440
they experienced a lot of really difficult things during COVID,

854
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,360
and they've seen how their peer group has suffered. They've

855
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,159
seen the mental anguish in the group of people who

856
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,960
have adopted some of the wokeness you know, the most,

857
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
and so they understand the harms of it in very

858
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,199
interesting different ways than we ever will. And so, you know,

859
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,039
I think it's natural they're rejecting what caused that harm,

860
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:52,039
and so I think they will actually be more conservative

861
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,159
than any generation that we actually have seen in America.

862
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:56,880
I think they'll be the most conservative because if you

863
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,760
look at the male numbers what's happened historically when you

864
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,920
have you know, let's take this to all of human history,

865
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,960
what happens by the time people marry, When they marry

866
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,880
and have kids, females political views are the most movable

867
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,239
thing in human history. So if you're a liberal girl

868
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,400
in college right now, out of all humans, you are

869
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,039
the most likely to change your political view and conform

870
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,719
it to your husband's. That's all of human history. So

871
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,480
what really matters is looking at the male political belief

872
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,559
system in that age group right now, and when you

873
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:36,440
look at that, it is dominantly right wing, the most

874
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,960
right wing we have seen, right, So what's going to

875
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,239
happen when they reach that age where they get married

876
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,280
and have kids. You're going to see a massive number

877
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,519
of females realign their politics to the politics their husbands have,

878
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:50,360
and also changing priorities because suddenly, when you have kids,

879
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,320
you're concerned about safety, you're concerned about you know, all

880
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,440
these different things you weren't concerned about when you were

881
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,400
in college and you just wanted people to think you

882
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,079
were nice, Right, And there's a lot that goes with that, right, Like,

883
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,639
I almost don't even fault some of these young girls

884
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:05,760
who are in high school or college and they have,

885
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,360
you know, sort of more liberal views. They're just concerned

886
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,199
at that point about seeming nice, right, and they are

887
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,239
lacking a lot of real world sort of experience to

888
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,440
understand how niceness can get you killed, you know, and

889
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,920
that you know it can destroy your life, it can

890
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,480
destroy your child's life. You can't always be nice, you know.

891
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,199
I had this discussion actually yesterday about a legal immigration.

892
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,199
You've got all of these leaders out there in the

893
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,880
world pretending this is such a complicated problem. Maybe it's

894
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,039
the Latinos strong man in me, but it's not complicated. Okay,

895
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,920
you could put me in charge of any country on

896
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,519
the face of the earth, any country, I don't care

897
00:43:42,519 --> 00:43:44,480
which one it is. I could solve a legal immigration

898
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:48,199
in a month. People might not like it, they might

899
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:50,239
think I'm mean, but I could solve it. I could

900
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,039
damn well solve it, and nobody would push nobody would

901
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:56,159
try again. Okay, it would not try, because it'd be

902
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,679
very clear in our country, we don't do this. We

903
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,960
don't accept this culture. Truly, we will never accept it,

904
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,760
and we will sort of have an iron fist when

905
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,199
it comes to this. Doesn't mean we hate people from

906
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,639
the outside. But you've got to have, you know, very

907
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:14,000
strong consequences and incentives for what you want out of

908
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,360
a society, and frankly, we haven't had that, you know,

909
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,840
in a very long time in America.

910
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're one of the few. Yeah, we're like, we're

911
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,079
you look around the world and other countries have it

912
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:24,719
and we don't.

913
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:25,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

914
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

915
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: Even in Trump's first term, we did not have it

916
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,199
because Trump was fighting a beast in DC.

917
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: Right.

918
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,039
Speaker 2: It was just like it was constantly just this game

919
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,719
of tug a war, and so you weren't able to

920
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,559
establish any sort of new cultural identity that said, actually

921
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,519
there's these new incentives, Actually there's this new way things

922
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:47,519
are going to be done.

923
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: Everything was a fight term two.

924
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: Staffing was done very differently, and the ability to sort

925
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,320
of gut a lot of parts of the federal bureaucracy.

926
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,719
It was different this time, right, And so so I

927
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,320
think a lot of people kind of knew what they

928
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,000
were doing in ways they didn't know during the first term.

929
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:08,159
And so you are starting to see that shift in

930
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,960
expectations and sort of you know, what incentives were putting

931
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,119
out there, and I think that, you know, my hope

932
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:19,840
is we get more aggressive in that respect, because I

933
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,840
think society is all about the incentives that you give

934
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,159
the populace. And for my entire life, the incentive structure

935
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,679
has been horrific. It has been terrible. It has led

936
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,559
us to, you know, more single mother homes than we've

937
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:38,760
ever had. It has led us to horrific crime numbers.

938
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,199
It's led us to fentanyl overdoses and numbers I don't

939
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,000
even want to talk about. I mean, it's like, this

940
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:47,119
is worse than the deaths we've experienced in world wars,

941
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,960
you know, and almost nobody talks about how this happened.

942
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,199
And it was just total weakness and cowardice from the

943
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,280
American politician.

944
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,119
Speaker 3: You know.

945
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: It was like, we could have gone to war over

946
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,119
this a long time ago. And I mean I mean

947
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:00,480
go to war. I mean we could to send in

948
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,719
special forces to absolutely obliterate cartel bosses decades ago, decades ago,

949
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440
when they were weaker, when they didn't have the ability

950
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,320
to train their people in the ways they do now,

951
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,880
where they didn't have the tools and lethal capacity they

952
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,880
do now, the ability to carry out horrific terror attacks

953
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,199
that they could do now. We could have done this,

954
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,440
We could have cut the head off of the snake

955
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,599
and not grown two new heads we didn't know. Pure

956
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:26,920
cowardice and weakness. And what has it bought us? A

957
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,800
bunch of dead Americans, you know. And you can go

958
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,719
down the line of all of these horrific things that happened,

959
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:35,159
and it all goes back to our political leaders not

960
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:38,039
having the courage, will or backbone to just do the

961
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,320
right things, do very simple things that reset the incentive structure.

962
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,960
And I think that's something we've got to prioritize. And

963
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,679
that's what we did with our campaign with the EI.

964
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,800
We changed the incentive structure and that was very important

965
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,400
to us and how we approached it, like, we've got

966
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,159
to change the incentives for companies. That's why the financial

967
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,000
reality of this is very important. It's almost never talked about,

968
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,800
but did you know this, With the exception of Harley Davidson,

969
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,039
every single company that we have announced their DEI changes

970
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,119
has had their stock go up, even when compared to

971
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,400
their competitors within their industry. So, wow, if you say

972
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,440
you know X company went up, We'll take you know

973
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,719
Walmart for instance, right, Okay, do you say they went up?

974
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,039
You need to know also how much did Amazon go

975
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,639
up during this same period, right, and so you've got

976
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:32,639
to look at apples and apples, And that's what we

977
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:35,679
do in our financial analysis of these companies. When we

978
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,840
look at the companies that we have made these announcements for,

979
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,320
they have gone up in stock to a degree much

980
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,800
higher than their competitors within their industry. And the only

981
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,880
exception is Harley Davidson, who fought us the longest. And

982
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,639
so what message does that send corporate America? The incentives

983
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:52,199
have changed.

984
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,519
Speaker 3: Do you want to make money? You know, like that

985
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,400
be that's your goal, right.

986
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: Should be, you'd think, right, your public.

987
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:04,519
Speaker 2: Company, your responsibility is it's a fiduciary duty to the shareholder.

988
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,119
Speaker 3: That is your legal obligation.

989
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so if you.

990
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: Want to make money, the incentives are different now. It's

991
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,239
not wokeness, not esg. It's actually a rejection of these things.

992
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,360
Publicly rejecting it will make you money.

993
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been so fun to watch all of

994
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,400
your work on that front. It's been absolutely amazing. I

995
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,320
love that you're going to keep it going in whatever

996
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,599
new format you were referring to earlier. Tell people how

997
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:32,519
they can find the film if they haven't seen it. Yet,

998
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,280
and also how to follow you and the work that

999
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:35,599
you do.

1000
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: Thanks Yet.

1001
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen The War on Children, go to

1002
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,679
the War on Children dot Com. You can see the film.

1003
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,480
There's a bunch of different ways. You go on Amazon

1004
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:48,079
Prime to I think it's called Prime TV or something

1005
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:50,159
like that. It's on there, you know, So if you're

1006
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:51,840
one of those people watched on Prime you can you

1007
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480
can get it there, which, by the way, is an

1008
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:57,440
interesting story in itself, because that is the changing fabric

1009
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,360
of America. When the movie came out, it was banned

1010
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,039
on Amazon. It was banned for a year from Amazon Prime.

1011
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,079
And then after my corporate campaign, as we get probably

1012
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:13,079
six months into it, we get a leaked message from

1013
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:18,960
an Amazon representative telling us check Prime today. We check Prime,

1014
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:21,480
Suddenly our movie is there. Suddenly our account is no

1015
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:25,559
longer banned, you know, Suddenly we no longer were in

1016
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:29,880
violation of their policies right in the world. That was

1017
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,360
I think an effort on their end to be like, okay,

1018
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,760
this is like a peace offering, right, And for me,

1019
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,679
I see it as like Okay, culturally, we can tout

1020
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,400
this win and show a part of the shifting culture

1021
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,400
and the landscape of sort of like this is a

1022
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,440
new world, right, So that's one place you could follow

1023
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,039
me online at Robbie Starbuck on every platform, on all

1024
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:53,800
of them, you know, most active on X because that's

1025
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,920
always been my favorite platform, but we post everywhere, so

1026
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,559
if you're a YouTube person or you know, rumble or whatever,

1027
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:02,239
you can on any of those. We will be having

1028
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,559
a regular show rolling out too, on top of all this,

1029
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:07,760
so you can see the set here, you know there.

1030
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: There will be great, it will be right, and we'll.

1031
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: Be kind of diving into a lot of these issues,

1032
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,960
but also explaining a lot of the you know, sort

1033
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,039
of political issues of the day and getting into an

1034
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:23,239
explanation behind policy and you know why certain things don't work,

1035
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,360
you know, So it's not going to be sort of

1036
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,679
a typical show. Will be very issue oriented, so like

1037
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:32,280
explaining WHYDI doesn't work? You know what is sort of

1038
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,679
like the secret agenda behind it?

1039
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: What does it mean? Who's behind it? You know?

1040
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,039
Speaker 2: How long has this been going on? It's sort of

1041
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,400
like diving deeper on issues. So I folks you're interested

1042
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,519
in that, you know, we'll be doing that soon.

1043
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 4: Good deal. Well, it's been to talk to you you

1044
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:48,360
great to talk to you.

1045
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, really really glad to have had the time and

1046
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,760
and we'd love to have you back another time to

1047
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,159
hear more about the latest companies that you're exposing, because.

1048
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 4: That's super fun to watch.

1049
00:50:58,519 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate you being with us.

1050
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:01,159
Speaker 4: Thank you.