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Speaker 5: The Donald Jeffries Show.
Speaker 6: And welcome to the Donald Jeffrey Show. Very special guest today,
Speaker 6: someone I admire very much. Doctor Diomi Wolf is a
Speaker 6: Rhodes scholar, former advisor to the Clinton and Gorekans paigns,
Speaker 6: Boy That's hard.
Speaker 3: To Believe, and the author of eight New York.
Speaker 6: Times nonfiction bestsellers. She's been creating globally influential opinions for
Speaker 6: twenty eight years.
Speaker 3: She's also the CEO of Daily Clout. They all be.
Speaker 6: It's always great to talk to you. Thanks for coming
Speaker 6: on the show.
Speaker 7: Oh, it's always such a pleasure to talk to you.
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 6: Oh you've been so busy, and you've as if you
Speaker 6: weren't courting enough controversy. You know, you've kind of put
Speaker 6: some toes in my waters. You're you're really becoming I
Speaker 6: don't think I think The New York Times has not
Speaker 6: been even less friendly to you than they haven't been
Speaker 6: in the past.
Speaker 3: How did you How did you get involved in it?
Speaker 6: Because you really seem like you're like RFK Junior and
Speaker 6: doctor Sherry ten Penny and all that. You seem like
Speaker 6: you're in that world now where you're really concentrating on
Speaker 6: the vaccines and all that.
Speaker 3: So how did that happen?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, respectfully, i'd slightly kind of disagree. I mean, obviously, yes,
Speaker 7: I've been very physically marginalized. I was deeplatformed from Twitter
Speaker 7: about seven weeks ago, and there was like a global
Speaker 7: smear campaign in which the Twitter spokesperson seemed to have
Speaker 7: gone to all of my employers, you know, major news
Speaker 7: outlets and taken out of context things I'd said or
Speaker 7: you know, tweets I'd deleted and apparently right, I don't know,
Speaker 7: you know, I don't have the smoking gun. We'll find
Speaker 7: out in the lawsuit, but you know that led to
Speaker 7: it was it was painful because the all these news outlets,
Speaker 7: without calling me, said she's been deep platformed for vaccine
Speaker 7: misinformation or medical misinformation. And I was actually deplatformed twenty
Speaker 7: four hours after posting irrefutable proof that the NIH had
Speaker 7: funded gain of Function research actually here in the United States,
Speaker 7: and that had gotten seventy four thousand views.
Speaker 8: When I was deplatformed, And it turns out that I
Speaker 8: was right.
Speaker 7: You know, So I guess when I say I'm pushing
Speaker 7: back gently, it's.
Speaker 8: That I haven't changed, you know, I haven't done.
Speaker 7: And you and I had this conversation about your book
Speaker 7: when you said you hadn't changed, but the parties had changed,
Speaker 7: and the politics I haven't changed.
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about vaccines. I'm talking about freedom.
Speaker 7: It happens that vaccines are one of the vectors by
Speaker 7: which our freedoms are being suppressed and obscured, and the rationale,
Speaker 7: just like you know, terrorism had been the rationale, you know,
Speaker 7: for the twelve years after I wrote The End of America.
Speaker 8: I'm just doing you.
Speaker 7: Know, investigative reporting, which about six people are doing in
Speaker 7: America these days, you know, well, right, yeah, And I'm
Speaker 7: free to do it because I'm not funded by the
Speaker 7: Billain Melinda Gates Foundation. You know, I'm like bb SEE
Speaker 7: and The Guardian and you know, NPR and you know,
Speaker 7: according to the Kombia Journalism Review, there's this huge corruption
Speaker 7: of media. But I'm just asking normal questions, like you know, abs,
Speaker 7: like I'm the author of the beauty myth. I care
Speaker 7: about women's health. All these women were reporting problems with
Speaker 7: menstrual symptoms upon getting vaccinated. I asked questions. And that
Speaker 7: is now out of bounds or marginalizing or misinformation. It's
Speaker 7: just what I've been doing for thirty five years as
Speaker 7: a reporter. You know, you ask questions. You don't take
Speaker 7: press statements or press releases from anointed, conflicted quote unquote
Speaker 7: experts or elected officials at peace value. You investigate. So
Speaker 7: I haven't changed, you know, And and I guess you know,
Speaker 7: in terms of what I'm warning people about. Since February,
Speaker 7: I've been warning people about vaccine, passports and the end
Speaker 7: of our liberties. And of course, Built A. Blasio announced
Speaker 7: yesterday that New York City was going to be subjected
Speaker 7: to oppression and segregation and illegal discrimination unlike anything we've
Speaker 7: seen since since the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 3: And wait, you mentioned segregation.
Speaker 6: And I've mentioned many times that this is this is
Speaker 6: almost going to have the potential for an apartheid situation.
Speaker 3: Are we going to have separate restrooms?
Speaker 6: I mean the unvaccinated really are going to be second
Speaker 6: class citizens. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And the irony, well, so definitely. I mean it's already
Speaker 7: happening in Italy, in France. I have a friend in
Speaker 7: France and she said, with the past santytail the vaccine passport,
Speaker 7: you can't get on a long distance train unless you're
Speaker 7: vaccinated or take a test. You can't go to a restaurant,
Speaker 7: Teens can't meet their friends. It is apartheid, and and
Speaker 7: it's been spelled out in very thorough detail in Israel,
Speaker 7: people weren't able to get their groceries without a vaccine
Speaker 7: passport from reports real and you know, absolutely it's already
Speaker 7: the case. I mean, if I want to, oh, I
Speaker 7: have a colleague who couldn't go help his son unpack
Speaker 7: his stuff going back to school at a famous private
Speaker 7: university because unless he was vaccinated. So these are like
Speaker 7: profound life experiences that where people who are not us
Speaker 7: are deciding for us, which is the hallmark of tyranny
Speaker 7: in a police state, you know whom we can see,
Speaker 7: how we can assemble, you know, what institutions we can attend,
Speaker 7: and they're doing it by invading our bodies with a
Speaker 7: an un I mean, I'm not an anti vax activist,
Speaker 7: but you know I noticed that, you know, these.
Speaker 8: Trials don't conclude till twenty twenty three.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's manufacturers statements. So you know, I've noticed
Speaker 7: that about every health hazard since silicon brest implants. You know,
Speaker 7: if there's not enough data, that's a fact, right, If
Speaker 7: the trials aren't concluded, you know, if and many whistleblowing
Speaker 7: doctors who are otherwise just doctors right doing their jobs.
Speaker 7: I've been talking to it really sounding alarm about no
Speaker 7: data for pregnant women, no data for lactation, no data
Speaker 7: for menopause.
Speaker 8: You know, so these are you know, these are issues
Speaker 8: that affect fifty two percent of the population.
Speaker 7: If they're female, if you're a childbearing age you should
Speaker 7: know there's no data, right. And the fact that we're
Speaker 7: even having this conversation in which the state has said,
Speaker 7: in spite of an absence of safety data, we're going
Speaker 7: to impose this on people or we can strip them
Speaker 7: of their rights. That is not America, you know, it's
Speaker 7: not even It's much much closer to China or North Korea.
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked to before.
Speaker 6: I mentioned to you that I as a civil libertarian,
Speaker 6: and I know you're you fit the bill of a
Speaker 6: civil libertarian too. I was drawn to the left originally
Speaker 6: by people like Mark Lane that hendt Off the American
Speaker 6: Civil Liberties Union back then, that I love the idea
Speaker 6: of standing up for everybody, even.
Speaker 3: The people you couldn't stand.
Speaker 6: It's almost like that, that's almost kind of the golden
Speaker 6: rule of you know, with the combined with the First Amendment.
Speaker 6: But when do you think the left became this authoritarian
Speaker 6: mess where you and I should have said, you're right,
Speaker 6: it's they have changed.
Speaker 3: Really, you have it, This is kind of a natural
Speaker 3: position for you to take. And when did they.
Speaker 6: Become this where they are so concerned with taking away
Speaker 6: and restricting rights rather than opening things up and getting
Speaker 6: rights for people that didn't have them before.
Speaker 7: That is a great and important question, and I wish
Speaker 7: everyone was asking it, especially on the left. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's really been fast, right, It's been since November, I
Speaker 7: would say. I mean they've been trying since the pandemic
Speaker 7: to make that be the default position of the left,
Speaker 7: and a lot of money has gone into it. A
Speaker 7: billion dollars in the last stimulus Bill went to propaganda,
Speaker 7: basically to uh, you know, overcome vaccine hesitancy, but also
Speaker 7: to create a kind of compliance state with whatever they're
Speaker 7: going to do, you know, to suppress our liberties and
Speaker 7: to make that be the woke thing or the right
Speaker 7: on left position, which is.
Speaker 8: So bizarre right where our bodies are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened to that?
Speaker 7: So partly's propaganda, Partly it's I'm sorry to say, the
Speaker 7: Biden administration. You know, victory can be very corrupting, and
Speaker 7: the Biden administration absolutely set the tone from day one
Speaker 7: that they were in league with big tech to censor
Speaker 7: people who disagreed with them, you know, let alone people
Speaker 7: with other points of view about vaccines.
Speaker 8: Ben Pfizer or the CDC or doctor Fauci.
Speaker 7: And that's an unholy alliance because people, you know, first
Speaker 7: there was this purge of conservative voices and the President
Speaker 7: of the United.
Speaker 8: States got purged.
Speaker 7: And you know, I don't support President Trump politically, but
Speaker 7: I've read my history and first they're going to start
Speaker 7: with president and then they'll come for me.
Speaker 8: And that is.
Speaker 3: What happened to.
Speaker 6: Didn't That used to be the credo of the left.
Speaker 6: First they came for the Jews.
Speaker 3: Then they can't what happened to that.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm I'm doing my best to answer, but so
Speaker 7: so part of it is victory, right. I think a
Speaker 7: lot of people on the left and I hear them,
Speaker 7: you know, they say, oh, this.
Speaker 8: Is terrible, you know, this is so illiberal, but they.
Speaker 7: Don't want to jeopardize having one, you know, two branches
Speaker 7: of the government.
Speaker 8: That's a rare thing.
Speaker 7: And they don't realize that there is no victory if
Speaker 7: they lose their human rights and everyone else's because you know,
Speaker 7: no one's safe in a tyranny, not even the members
Speaker 7: of the ruling party.
Speaker 8: And lastly, there's China.
Speaker 7: China has I know, you know, when my when I
Speaker 7: first started hearing about this from people in the intelligence
Speaker 7: world and the you know world of diplomacy, it was
Speaker 7: crazy or xenophobia. But China has been engaged very systematically,
Speaker 7: or the CCP, I should say, in what they call
Speaker 7: unrestricted warfare, which means not a shooting war, but an
Speaker 7: influence war. And so they've been buying influencers, and they've
Speaker 7: been buying you know, create influencing you know, Confucius institutes
Speaker 7: on college campuses, influencing curricula, influencing elected officials, and I'm very,
Speaker 7: very worried about the role of the Bill and Melinda
Speaker 7: Gates Foundation all of this, because they're really deeply in
Speaker 7: bed with the Chinese Communist Party. They have a three
Speaker 7: hundred million dollar partnership in other business terms, and you know,
Speaker 7: when you're thinking about how you keep a country safe,
Speaker 7: we're in a time when there are these meta national technocrats, right,
Speaker 7: and their their future is China, right, Like, if you're
Speaker 7: Bill Gates, or you're invested in vaccines, you're invested in tech,
Speaker 7: and he's invested in both. Of course, you know, China
Speaker 7: is your growth, if your Twitter, China is your growth,
Speaker 7: or you know Facebook, and if the CCP wants to
Speaker 7: align with you and then kind of use that alliance,
Speaker 7: you know, and then you're the face of flowing millions
Speaker 7: of dollars to corrupt American journalism or to you know,
Speaker 7: corrupt civil society institutions like the schools like's they're pouring
Speaker 7: money into K three nine education and so on. You know,
Speaker 7: that's a great way to wage war on another superpower.
Speaker 7: And if you look at the Frank Gaffney, who is
Speaker 7: again not my like ideological bedfellow, but a smart person,
Speaker 7: he did an essay today and he was, and it's
Speaker 7: very persuasive. And I've seen all these firsthand documents of
Speaker 7: you know, if you look at what happened in the
Speaker 7: last year and a half to America, we were attacked.
Speaker 7: And I don't mean that just literally, though I think
Speaker 7: an investigation of the Wuhan lab leak is useful. But
Speaker 7: we attacked as a superpower. You know, like look at
Speaker 7: the policies of the last year and a half. Our
Speaker 7: kids are not being educated, the social contract has been
Speaker 7: torn apart.
Speaker 8: Are our economy crashed right.
Speaker 7: Like deliberately, like you know, the policies would crash it.
Speaker 8: There was a vast transfer of wealth.
Speaker 7: You know, people couldn't worship, people couldn't go to their
Speaker 7: town halls. People's health declined, addiction sort, depression sort.
Speaker 8: I mean, we're we're a mess. And whom does that benefit?
Speaker 7: It benefits the other superpower who funded you know a
Speaker 7: lot of a lot of influencers who are you know,
Speaker 7: saying lockdown.
Speaker 8: Harder and and they're doing it all over the world,
Speaker 8: you know, so it's really war on the West.
Speaker 6: There's where there's nowhere to go for freedom the entire word.
Speaker 6: But what you mentioned Trump earlier, and I get the
Speaker 6: same thing more than you do. You're a Trumpster just
Speaker 6: because we sound like you know that on this issue.
Speaker 6: But but do you think it's ironic that Trump is
Speaker 6: so much of this authoritarianism on the left is still
Speaker 6: tied to Trump and their hatred for him. Do you
Speaker 6: think it's Isn't it ironic that Trump is constantly bragging
Speaker 6: about the vaccine, the warp speed thing, which he puts
Speaker 6: through with no testing, and he claims it as his own.
Speaker 6: And yet they're embracing the vaccine while hating him. It's
Speaker 6: very strange, and yet his cult still ignores him, saying
Speaker 6: that too, there are very some strange things going on
Speaker 6: around Trump at this point, with the vaccine.
Speaker 7: I don't really know how to speak to that. I mean,
Speaker 7: I I don't know. I don't know how to speak
Speaker 7: to that. I mean, you know, yes, the left hates Trump,
Speaker 7: but Trump did some really hateful things, and you know,
Speaker 7: I have a really hard time with him. I'm a
Speaker 7: survivor of sexual assault, and the way he spoke about
Speaker 7: sexual assault or the way he spoke about women makes
Speaker 7: you know, it makes feel viscerally unhappy at the thought
Speaker 7: of him, even though you know, I've actually joined him
Speaker 7: in a lawsuit against Twitter a bunch and south of
Speaker 7: other so I you know, I think that it I
Speaker 7: would put it a little differently. I think that hatred
Speaker 7: of Trump which is real and sometimes legitimate, you know,
Speaker 7: because he also messed up some of our civility and
Speaker 7: some of our institutions, and and you know, you shouldn't
Speaker 7: downplay people storming.
Speaker 8: The Capitol, and you know a bunch of other things.
Speaker 7: But that's been weaponized by the left and a very
Speaker 7: by the DNC, I should say, in a very clever way.
Speaker 7: And I think they've what they've been doing effectively is
Speaker 7: just as you said starting out this part of the conversation.
Speaker 7: They have smeared the Trump hatred and create a cocktail
Speaker 7: of that and calling people racists and calling people militia members.
Speaker 7: So that if you dare to say I like the Constitution,
Speaker 7: or I like freedom, or you know, that's my privacy,
Speaker 7: you don't get to invade it. There's the Fourth Amendment. Uh,
Speaker 7: you can be attacked as a Trump supporter. And you know,
Speaker 7: I do not support President Trump. I am a Democrat,
Speaker 7: I am a liberal progressive, but I think it's a
Speaker 7: sign of the kind of effectiveness of the propaganda around
Speaker 7: us that you know, all you have to do is
Speaker 7: talk about freedom or patriotism or what are some other
Speaker 7: words that have been demonized, you know, fourth of July.
Speaker 7: Like I want someone fourth of July and you know,
Speaker 7: well educated, thoughtful, young woman and she said, oh, this country,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm not going to celebrate.
Speaker 8: And I'm like, oh my god. You know, yes, we
Speaker 8: have had our flaws and our problems.
Speaker 7: But you know, if if someone has got our young
Speaker 7: adults to be on the verge of giving up on
Speaker 7: the project of America as a free nation, and that
Speaker 7: can only be an adversary.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, But I just think he's his name is still
Speaker 6: used to first of all, And it's ironic again because
Speaker 6: this is so similar to what happened in the fifties.
Speaker 3: I mean, from whatever end.
Speaker 6: Is that they we're you know, so we're almost it's
Speaker 6: like we're pink O or maybe fellow travelers.
Speaker 7: Right, fellow travelers exactly. Oh yeah, And I mean the
Speaker 7: tactics are so similar. And I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 7: Don you know that this kind of getting people professionally,
Speaker 7: it's very fifties and it's very stalinist. But yeah, we
Speaker 7: saw it in the fifties, the chilling effect of the
Speaker 7: House An American Activities MIDI.
Speaker 8: You know, so many.
Speaker 7: People after I was deplatformed, emailed as I mentioned or
Speaker 7: reached out and and said I'm with you, and I said, okay,
Speaker 7: say so, and they're like, no, I'm scared of losing
Speaker 7: my job.
Speaker 8: I'm scared of you know that you're.
Speaker 7: As palpable and that is that is definitely a tactic,
Speaker 7: which is why we do need to be brave.
Speaker 3: Oh can cancel?
Speaker 6: Cancel culture is very similar again to what happened in
Speaker 6: the fifties, the Blacklist, and people are getting fired for
Speaker 6: their police and I've tried to point out to people
Speaker 6: and oh, it's different.
Speaker 3: How is it different?
Speaker 7: I mean, it's worse because blackness affected one industry. It
Speaker 7: didn't follow you everywhere. And with vaccine passports, you know,
Speaker 7: you can you can be canceled everywhere. I mean people
Speaker 7: are talking about, you know, having I mean, look at
Speaker 7: what's happened to actual people. Jordan Peterson got his payment
Speaker 7: processor suspended.
Speaker 8: I believe Ben.
Speaker 7: Heiro and I don't agree with these people in a
Speaker 7: lot of issues, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8: I freedom right.
Speaker 7: He was threatened with having his a WS hosting suspended.
Speaker 7: You know, there's a purge and it is going to
Speaker 7: lead to one party state, you know, with a social
Speaker 7: credit system. And I'm so sorry, but I have about
Speaker 7: five more minutes to talk.
Speaker 6: To Okay, Okay, sure, Well let's well, what what do
Speaker 6: you what do you want to talk about this? Besides this?
Speaker 6: Do you want to discuss outrageous? Because you know, you
Speaker 6: and I kind of got to know each other over
Speaker 6: your book Outrages. For those of you that don't know
Speaker 6: she Naomi was, I think you were, you know, really
Speaker 6: caught off guard in a very sneaky way in a
Speaker 6: BBC interview or the reporter attacked you or attacked a
Speaker 6: premise of your book, And once I read your book,
Speaker 6: I could see how taken out of context that was.
Speaker 6: It was a little term that I would have interpreted the.
Speaker 3: Same way you did. But at any rate, your publisher.
Speaker 6: Kind of, as they do in these situations, they don't
Speaker 6: stand behind people anymore. Uh, kind of throw you under
Speaker 6: the bus and then you know, it's it's I think
Speaker 6: that kind of added to maybe the difficulties you've had
Speaker 6: and being a real liberal in this kind of world
Speaker 6: we have. You can't be liberal anymore because you know,
Speaker 6: liberalism means standing up for the little guy, no matter
Speaker 6: who they are, standing up for free speech no matter
Speaker 6: whose it is, and always be you know, being against war,
Speaker 6: those kind of things. And today's left doesn't stand for that.
Speaker 6: So do you want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 6: that or whatever you want to talk.
Speaker 8: About, I'd have to talk about Happier, A happier book.
Speaker 3: The book.
Speaker 7: It was canceled by HMH for two misinterpretations of a
Speaker 7: complex legal term. But that's okay because it was published
Speaker 7: by Chelsea Green and it's been a best seller in
Speaker 7: its category ever since publication in British history.
Speaker 8: And European history, and you know, the record has been corrected,
Speaker 8: I mean, you know many.
Speaker 7: I mean I corrected the record that had been wrong
Speaker 7: about the erasure of the persecution of gay men in
Speaker 7: history in Britain, especially in the nineteenth century.
Speaker 8: And it's a wonderful story of a.
Speaker 7: Pioneer of the LGBTQ movement, John Addington Simmons.
Speaker 8: And I'm glad I wrote it. I'm glad the book lives.
Speaker 7: They couldn't kill it. I mean, that's it's ironic, right,
Speaker 7: because the book is an account of censorship, and one
Speaker 7: thing you learn from studying the history of censorship is
Speaker 7: censorship doesn't work. You know, like I got de platformed
Speaker 7: and I've got a bigger audience than ever. You know,
Speaker 7: spensor people forever. They censored gayus, you know, homosexuality in
Speaker 7: the nineteenth century, and that didn't get rid of gay men.
Speaker 7: They censored abortion discussions, you know, doesn't get rid of
Speaker 7: abortion like you can't.
Speaker 8: It doesn't work. So that's important.
Speaker 7: But I do want to talk in the last couple
Speaker 7: of minutes about Daily Cloud because you have been a
Speaker 7: wonderful kind of interlocutor for that project and it is thriving.
Speaker 7: We it's my company. It's a website and a legislative database.
Speaker 7: But we've launched something called the Five Freedoms campaigns I
Speaker 7: think your audience would love, which is draft legislation. Freedom,
Speaker 7: let's see, no mask mandates, no vaccine passports, freedom of assembly,
Speaker 7: freedom of speech, and and emergency law.
Speaker 8: And we've really gotten traction.
Speaker 7: We've been working with legislators across the country and sixteen
Speaker 7: states have ended, you know, have passed vaccine passport bands.
Speaker 7: They have to be made stronger, but at least that issue,
Speaker 7: excuse me, it is on the table, and you know,
Speaker 7: we're just fighting the good fight because at the federal
Speaker 7: level it's a catastrophe.
Speaker 8: But at the state.
Speaker 7: Level, there are a lot of good people trying to
Speaker 7: save our country, and so people can join that community,
Speaker 7: they can support that effort. But I guess what I
Speaker 7: want to say is you and I are really, you know,
Speaker 7: fellow companions in this journey, because what I've learned, like
Speaker 7: the people who are most out front in leadership on this,
Speaker 7: I have to say it. I'm embarrassed to say it,
Speaker 7: are Republicans or libertarians right now. You know, there are
Speaker 7: some principal Democrats, and someday they'll have to have a
Speaker 7: reckoning my side with how.
Speaker 8: They colluded with a dark period in history.
Speaker 7: And you know, I hope the right will do a
Speaker 7: reckoning of their own flaws. You know, we all have
Speaker 7: things we need to do better. But having said that,
Speaker 7: what is happening now is an alliance of left and
Speaker 7: right and people across the political spectrum to save our country.
Speaker 8: And you know we have to unite now.
Speaker 7: We can't be hung up on these lesser ideological things
Speaker 7: that divide us. We can work those out another time
Speaker 7: or agree to disagree, But on the big issues, it's
Speaker 7: all of us at the bottom, right, all of us
Speaker 7: citizens against like eleven oligarchs who are trying to crush
Speaker 7: our country and our world, and we.
Speaker 8: Have to join together and fight.
Speaker 7: So that is a fight that's under way, and I really,
Speaker 7: you know, hope your your listeners will come check it
Speaker 7: out and maybe even support it.
Speaker 6: Sure well, you know, and these these and what HL
Speaker 6: meant and another great liberal long time ago when they
Speaker 6: had them called an endless series of hobgoblins. I think
Speaker 6: that's what we're experiencing all the time. I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't remember things being this frightening extreme weather, you know,
Speaker 6: when I was younger. But it just seems like there's
Speaker 6: always something going on, not to mention COVID that distracts
Speaker 6: people from the obvious reality of the total corruption of
Speaker 6: these people that are ruling us. And that you mentioned
Speaker 6: the consult that with the wealth, I wrote Survival the Richest.
Speaker 6: Obviously you were the forward of the payback version. The
Speaker 6: disparity of wealth has got much worse. Is Ron Paul
Speaker 6: called called the first stimulus build the greatest transfer of
Speaker 6: wealth upward in the history of America.
Speaker 3: I'm the second.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't even know where that money went yet,
Speaker 6: but I know it didn't go to the right places.
Speaker 8: I believe you.
Speaker 7: And you know, another time we can talk about real
Speaker 7: estate because that are you still there? Yeah, I just
Speaker 7: wanted to say before we set off that I've been
Speaker 7: talking to realtors across the country and the pandemic and
Speaker 7: the ban on evictions. It sounds compassionate, but what it
Speaker 7: really does is it drives small landlords, uh you know,
Speaker 7: and it's out of business. They can't hold on those
Speaker 7: assets are sold at a fire sale to black Stone
Speaker 7: and you know, and all these big institutional investors. And
Speaker 7: it's and we've become a renter society in that American
Speaker 7: dream of owning your own little right he's property or
Speaker 7: going up the property ladder. For the small businesses that
Speaker 7: died were people owned by people of color. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's it's so unjust. And the fact that the left
Speaker 7: is jumping on board and saying do it more is
Speaker 7: shameful and shocking. And I'm sorry I had to say that,
Speaker 7: but I you know, I have to tell the truth.
Speaker 3: No, it's true. Well, we need a year Jubilee.
Speaker 6: I've been, I've been. I've been advocating that for a
Speaker 6: long time. That's the one biblical tradition you don't hear
Speaker 6: any pastor talk about.
Speaker 3: Are we like tooth?
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Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm not an economist, but I mean we definitely need
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Speaker 7: that's nothing like that happens in free societies, and people
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Speaker 6: Sorry that was a little bit, you know, but a
Speaker 6: little bit of name of if is better than a
Speaker 6: lot of most other people. So I thank Naomi for coming.
Speaker 6: I understand she's busy, so we will have a little
Speaker 6: bit more free time to rant and hopefully take phone calls.
Speaker 6: So we're going to open up the phone lines now
Speaker 6: at three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 6: So I'd love to hear from you guys three one
Speaker 6: nine five two seven five zero one six, and of
Speaker 6: course the chat rum see a few of you already there,
Speaker 6: and uh so we'll field.
Speaker 3: Your questions there. So uh, anyway, so.
Speaker 6: Much to talk about, boy, I just I uh, you know,
Speaker 6: And Naomi keep in mind, you know that she's very
Speaker 6: much like a she comes very much from the Originally
Speaker 6: when she wrote The Beauty Myth and things like that,
Speaker 6: she was very much in the mainstream that she's you know,
Speaker 6: she's a liberal Democrat, but the party pretty much has
Speaker 6: left her obviously a long time ago, and she has
Speaker 6: a lot of it dependent views and that's where we
Speaker 6: intersect on a lot of things. And she's become very
Speaker 6: outspoken about the vaccine and personal freedom and you know,
Speaker 6: SIMI libitarian. That's you can tell she has. You hear
Speaker 6: a lot of things that she says that I say that.
Speaker 6: You know, it doesn't matter what you think of Trump
Speaker 6: or anybody else, you have to defend free speech for everyone.
Speaker 6: So very you know, again, very much pleased to have her.
Speaker 6: And I need to turn it a piece of Daily
Speaker 6: Cloud again. I wrote a few a chance to go
Speaker 6: to Daily Cloud. I owe you can see some of
Speaker 6: her stuff there and I've written a couple pieces. I
Speaker 6: think I wrote a populous manifesto was one thing I
Speaker 6: wrote there that I talked about some of the things
Speaker 6: that I would be doing if I was in power
Speaker 6: as a populist, and I alluded to a year of
Speaker 6: jubilee Tonaomi. And that's one thing that I think that
Speaker 6: is long overdue. And you don't hear anybody talk about that.
Speaker 6: You heard a little bit about to debt jubilee a
Speaker 6: little bit. Then, of course people have talked about absolving
Speaker 6: student loan debt. I mean that's good, but first of all,
Speaker 6: the first thing you hear is the people that had
Speaker 6: a student loan or whatever just paid their own way.
Speaker 6: They're instantly wet paid moment. I mean, that's human nature.
Speaker 6: So you have to absolve all debt. And then even
Speaker 6: if you do that, it's I've heard from people, well
Speaker 6: I don't have to Why should I be punished? So
Speaker 6: everybody's always looking about, you know, they all want a
Speaker 6: piece of the pie. So you would have to in
Speaker 6: that kind of scenario, you would have to give some
Speaker 6: kind of bonus for having paidried. You'd have to give
Speaker 6: something to the people that paid their debt off so
Speaker 6: they didn't feel like they, you know, they got short changed.
Speaker 6: And when Naomi touched on the evictions thing, and of course,
Speaker 6: you know, my natural sympathies lie with people, and I
Speaker 6: don't want anybody being evicted, especially at a time like this.
Speaker 3: But she's exactly right.
Speaker 6: That by evicting them, most of the people that you
Speaker 6: know are or at least as good portion of the people.
Speaker 6: And I'm a rite and get to tell her, I'm
Speaker 6: a realtor. As a matter of fact, I still have
Speaker 6: my real estate license. I need to start using it again.
Speaker 6: Keep saying I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I refuse to.
Speaker 6: But I need to start to put some time back
Speaker 6: into that. I've been I've a licensedince nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 6: so I've seen a lot of markets coming go. But
Speaker 6: when you do that, when you have a moratorium on evictions,
Speaker 6: well that means the people that somebody's paying those mortgages.
Speaker 6: And a lot of times it's just investors, small investors.
Speaker 6: I mean a lot a lot of people have their
Speaker 6: property and they may own a townhouse too as an
Speaker 6: investment or something, and you know, what are they supposed
Speaker 6: to do?
Speaker 3: So you have to in.
Speaker 6: Those situations you also you also definitely have to have
Speaker 6: an eviction moratorium. You have to have a mortgage. You know,
Speaker 6: you have to basically absolve the mortgages. And you can't
Speaker 6: do like what they did last year. They had to
Speaker 6: forget the term for it, but they basically you could
Speaker 6: not pay your mortgage for a year. But the problem
Speaker 6: is get's added on the back end, so it's you
Speaker 6: you don't get anything out of it other than you
Speaker 6: could just you know, you can just stop paying it
Speaker 6: for a year.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: They need to absolutely start absolving people of the mortgage
Speaker 6: so that that would be a much much better uh deal.
Speaker 3: For everyone, I think. But oh cool, we have a
Speaker 3: caller on the line. Collar. You're on the air, Coller, Oh,
Speaker 3: this is hello.
Speaker 4: This is Jimmy James.
Speaker 3: Jimmy James. I well, glad to hear from you. Thanks
Speaker 3: for calling.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I'm a fan of your work, fan of
Speaker 4: Survival of the Riches and Polocracy.
Speaker 3: Oh wonderful. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: I'm glad that those are two books that people don't
Speaker 6: talk about as much as The Conspiracy on One's glad
Speaker 6: to glad. Thanks for thanks for letting me know that.
Speaker 6: What's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Well, I was just thinking about all this right across
Speaker 10: the country, and it seems to me that, uh, the
Speaker 10: best solution to start out would be to be would
Speaker 10: be the ban all political parties in America.
Speaker 3: Sure, I can't help but to.
Speaker 4: Think that that would that would greatly depolitical politicize the situation.
Speaker 10: What what what's your thoughts on that, sir?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think the George Washington would agree with you.
Speaker 6: You know, that was his and probably all the founders,
Speaker 6: but George Washington specifically was on the record early on
Speaker 6: that he did not like the idea of political parties.
Speaker 6: But unfortunately from the very beginning, America you know, went
Speaker 6: into this crazy two party system where you had the
Speaker 6: at that time, you had the Federalists led by Alexander
Speaker 6: Hamilton and the Democrat Republicans, and that's certainly where I
Speaker 6: would have stood behind, led by Thomas Jefferson, and that
Speaker 6: kind of that was a a break for a long time,
Speaker 6: probably up until the Civil War.
Speaker 3: That was the main split in American politics.
Speaker 6: But unfortunately those parties got a hold early on, and
Speaker 6: you really that's why you really other than I think
Speaker 6: when Lincoln was the first president of the modern Republican party,
Speaker 6: I think they were.
Speaker 3: The Whigs or whatever before.
Speaker 6: And once they became the Republicans and the other Democrat
Speaker 6: Republicans became the Democrats, but they were always you know,
Speaker 6: Federalists and few you had some other free Soil party
Speaker 6: of course they know nothings that hated the Catholics, and
Speaker 6: the Anti Mason Party that was actually led by John
Speaker 6: Quincy Adams, former president. So you had other parties that
Speaker 6: got to some of the vote, but really they became consolidated,
Speaker 6: especially by the mid nineteenth century, and it other than
Speaker 6: a few cases like Teddy Roosevelt in nineteen twelve and
Speaker 6: certainly Ross Bureau in ninety two. Very those are really
Speaker 6: the only two instances or a third party for president
Speaker 6: aout any kind of uh you know, realistic campaign. Other
Speaker 6: than that, it's been it's been these two deadly parties.
Speaker 6: But I certainly agree with you. I'd love to see
Speaker 6: people running on principle rather than party, but unfortunately that
Speaker 6: that's just entrenched. I don't I don't think anybody's advocating
Speaker 6: for that. George Washington would though, if he were around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so pretty much. His whole final address was
Speaker 4: pretty much covered that. He said it'd be the destruction
Speaker 4: of the country.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's he would probably. Oh yeah, that's uh,
Speaker 6: they're mentioning. I think John Anderson got a few votes,
Speaker 6: but yeah, I mean he was there. Then They've had
Speaker 6: others like that, and certainly Ralph Nader, who I voted
Speaker 6: for a couple of times, Patrick Cannon, but typically they
Speaker 6: only get a few percentage points.
Speaker 3: I don't know what Anderson got. Maybe Anderson got more
Speaker 3: than that, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, I mean there's that we're definitely entrenched
Speaker 6: in these parties. And now you know, as Sidney she
Speaker 6: had who was on the show a couple of weeks
Speaker 6: ago said she likes to say, you know, before we
Speaker 6: can worry about a third party, let's get a second party.
Speaker 3: But that was I think.
Speaker 6: Really before the Democrats have really kind of split off
Speaker 6: now into this woke madness, so that I think, you know,
Speaker 6: we really Republicans aren't a good alternative, but right now
Speaker 6: they're kind of a you know, a milder version of that.
Speaker 6: So but yeah, we need way more alternatives. And ideally,
Speaker 6: you know, we would just open it up to everyone
Speaker 6: and not have to worry about labels. But everybody's stuck
Speaker 6: in that you know, look at the maps. I mean
Speaker 6: it's it's blue and red. Everybody's stuck in that world.
Speaker 4: And another thought I had as well, if we do
Speaker 4: have to have I don't even understand why we need
Speaker 4: local parties. We don't have a part of a parliamentary system.
Speaker 4: So see the point of it, It just causes more
Speaker 4: problems if we did have them, why not have them
Speaker 4: like a state parties?
Speaker 11: And and like he's like state only political parties. Wouldn't
Speaker 11: that like increase state control? And yeah, kind of de
Speaker 11: poorized the federal system a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it would, like i'd like to see
Speaker 6: that too, but you know, unfortunately, there were the Republicans today,
Speaker 6: what's you know, inspired by Trump? Who you know, again,
Speaker 6: I don't think believe any of it, but but basically
Speaker 6: that part of the Republican Party, you see it DeSantis
Speaker 6: and people like that, where they they're advocating at least
Speaker 6: to some degree for states rights. But unfortunately, I think
Speaker 6: unless you see more of a movement in the Republican
Speaker 6: Party as a whole, and there's just too many of
Speaker 6: them that they call rhinos or whatever that really aren't
Speaker 6: behind any of this and are just just kind of
Speaker 6: a watered down version of woke Democrats. But until you
Speaker 6: see people demanding that, because yeah, that power is you know,
Speaker 6: Jefferson said that government is best, which the least. Now
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's necessarily true with all the
Speaker 6: problems we have, but you need the closer you are
Speaker 6: to your representation, the better it is for the people.
Speaker 3: And I think Jefferson and people like that understood it.
Speaker 6: So yeah, local government, state government is much preferable to
Speaker 6: the federal leviathon who you That's why anybody wants a
Speaker 6: world government. Just imagine what kind of representation you're going
Speaker 6: to get. But yeah, i'd love to see that. I'd
Speaker 6: love to see different kinds and I you know, you
Speaker 6: talked about a parliamentary system the way their system is,
Speaker 6: I'd like to see maybe some form of proportional representation
Speaker 6: so that you would have some Libertarians and Green Party
Speaker 6: candidates and other small that were seated in Congress. I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't you know, at least they'd have we'd have
Speaker 6: somewhat of a voice there.
Speaker 3: But the present system right now is just a complete mess.
Speaker 4: I agree with you.
Speaker 6: Well, that's one of any of the questions about all
Speaker 6: I could take. Well, I appreciate thanks for calling in,
Speaker 6: Thanks for thanks for reading my work. And you know,
Speaker 6: I love hearing from people like you that that people
Speaker 6: out there reading it and appreciate especially those two because
Speaker 6: they haven't gotten quite the love that uh, Hidden History
Speaker 6: and Crimes and cover Ups have.
Speaker 4: Well that's too bad.
Speaker 10: They're really good books.
Speaker 4: I hope more people read them now, especially Bullyocracy now
Speaker 4: more than ever.
Speaker 6: Absolutely we were because we're being run and you can
Speaker 6: see that that bully mentality is on full display. People
Speaker 6: want to, you know, exert their will over other people.
Speaker 6: And you know, having read Bullyocracy, that, and again I
Speaker 6: think I'm the only one that's done this. Not only
Speaker 6: did I talk about the social hierarcan school, but schools,
Speaker 6: but you can see what happens in the you know,
Speaker 6: the adult world where that mentality still exists, and the
Speaker 6: bully person is basically a psychopathic personality, and it's it's
Speaker 6: synonymous with success. So that when you see CEOs or
Speaker 6: you know, people like that that are powerful figures, they
Speaker 6: all have all the characteristics of bullies. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 6: maybe there's one or two somewhere that didn't. I don't know,
Speaker 6: I've never seen them, but they all have. They're very arrogant,
Speaker 6: they're incredibly confident, great self confidence, which is the first
Speaker 6: trademark of every bully, and you know that's the first
Speaker 6: trademark any successful and so it's really synonymous with success.
Speaker 6: There's a very thin line, I think, between being a
Speaker 6: bully in high school and ended up being or being
Speaker 6: popular in high school and successful in life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there definitely seems to be a correlation. I guess
Speaker 4: laws they can, like you point out, they tend to
Speaker 4: be more well off, families, better connections, and like you say,
Speaker 4: the straight up crazy they'll do anything to get ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's that's that's what the the bully trademark
Speaker 6: is say. And I as you know, in the book,
Speaker 6: I talked about that study in England that talked about
Speaker 6: the the occupations that have the highest percentage of psychopaths.
Speaker 6: And they're basically the most prestigious occupations you could are
Speaker 6: the ones that you know, people want or even if
Speaker 6: they're even if they're not prestigious in terms of money.
Speaker 6: I mean, they're CEOs obviously, celebrities, athletes, a clergymen, you know, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, lawyers, doctors and lawyers. Of course, these are
Speaker 6: you know when if you look at it, it's like, wow,
Speaker 6: this is a this is a a list of all
Speaker 6: the the occupations that you know, parents want their children
Speaker 6: to grow up to be.
Speaker 3: And it's uh, they're all run.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're all the people that make our lives
Speaker 4: so very interesting every day.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, that's that's true. But it's yeah, they make
Speaker 6: them interesting all right. To Let's see, Jason, maybe that's
Speaker 6: how you need to be. You don't necessarily have to
Speaker 6: bully people, but the guy hit the nail on the head,
Speaker 6: you have to do whatever it takes. Yeah, and that's Uh,
Speaker 6: that's the chat rum. But yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate
Speaker 6: because it is it's hard to get anything done without
Speaker 6: being aggressive. But if there's a fine line to cross,
Speaker 6: and I I and I know and I found that
Speaker 6: as a salesman. It's a real trip because I have
Speaker 6: a lot of the traits of salesmen.
Speaker 3: But uh, I lack that bully mentality.
Speaker 6: And a really good salesperson has a killer instinct closer
Speaker 6: and they know how to put the pressure on, to
Speaker 6: really put the squeeze on at the last minute to
Speaker 6: get people to do something.
Speaker 3: And I do.
Speaker 6: I'm uncomfortable doing that. So that's uh, but you know,
Speaker 6: again that's at that level. I mean you you you
Speaker 6: see that bully mentality everywhere. But unfortunately it's it's uh,
Speaker 6: these are traits that society values. And I mentioned in
Speaker 6: the book that until our society values kindness and uh
Speaker 6: you know, you know, sensitivity, at which they don't at all,
Speaker 6: those are considered weak.
Speaker 3: You're weak, your wimp.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: Until he do that, then nothing's going to change because
Speaker 6: we can say all we want and we and the
Speaker 6: same people are wringing their hands over bullying. Well, it's
Speaker 6: no wonder I mean the people that bully they see
Speaker 6: that it gets results. You know, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 6: been very successful for them, so why would they change
Speaker 6: so But but you know that having read the book.
Speaker 4: And seeing it and like, I mean you just watching
Speaker 4: the news. I mean, look at Cuomo. He thinks I
Speaker 4: think he seriously is convinced himself that he's a stand
Speaker 4: up guy. He is a done thing wrong.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and he's you talk about somebody that has
Speaker 6: all the uh, all the there's a card carrying characteristic
Speaker 6: of a bully. I mean this guy is uh, I
Speaker 6: mean he and he goes beyond that. I mean he
Speaker 6: appears to be like channeling his inner mobster. Him and
Speaker 6: his brother, both Chris Cuomo, but they they both act
Speaker 6: like mobster wannabes. And you know, there's I don't have
Speaker 6: to know them to meet them. There's no question in
Speaker 6: my mind that they're bullies. I mean, there's they have
Speaker 6: the you can't possibly uh, you can't hide it when
Speaker 6: it's that strong. And they both have power, certainly Andrew
Speaker 6: Cuomo especially. But I uh, I'm writing Hitting History three
Speaker 6: and going over some of the excerpts from Robert F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior's journals. Uh, you know that were.
Speaker 6: Leaked by his ex wife, who then proceeded to allegedly
Speaker 6: hang herself in a barn not long after that in
Speaker 6: the greatest tradition of the Kennedy's a natural death tradition.
Speaker 6: But uh, he has a lot of stuff about Andrew
Speaker 6: Cuomo in there, and he did not like Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 3: Cuomo was married to.
Speaker 6: One of his sisters, I think it was Kerry Kennedy,
Speaker 6: and he was the entire family hated him because he
Speaker 6: was he was a bully, and he was not a
Speaker 6: nice guy, and he wanted nothing to do with him
Speaker 6: except when there were photo ops around. So he's he's
Speaker 6: really a despicable person from all I've read. And so
Speaker 6: this kid happened to a nicer guy, so he if
Speaker 6: he's if he's writhing around and ticked off right now.
Speaker 6: I try not to revel in other people's misfortune, but uh,
Speaker 6: I kind of have to smile at that because he
Speaker 6: it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Well, did you have anything else?
Speaker 4: Oh no, sir, that's all for me. I just wanted
Speaker 4: to thank you for your work.
Speaker 6: Well, I thank you for the call. And thank you
Speaker 6: for you know again, this is what keep me going
Speaker 6: when I hear from people like you, And thanks so much,
Speaker 6: and I hope you'll I have a book on show
Speaker 6: biz coming out in a couple of months on Barro
Speaker 6: and Fame.
Speaker 3: So I hope you'll check that out too.
Speaker 4: Well for sure.
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks a lot, Thanks for listening. Okay, So I
Speaker 6: think he's so that that was an interesting call. I
Speaker 6: love getting I love hearing from people like that, especially
Speaker 6: you know, reading those things, because I don't know, especially
Speaker 6: even when Naomi Wills's name went on the cover against
Speaker 6: the Skyhorse, wasn't even going to publish a paperback version
Speaker 6: of Survival of Wretches because it's just it's just has
Speaker 6: its soul. And but they did when she agreed write
Speaker 6: it forward to it. So but it you know, it
Speaker 6: really hasn't made that much of a difference. I'd like
Speaker 6: to say it did, but it didn't. And uh, I
Speaker 6: think people just don't that particular subject. That particular subject is,
Speaker 6: you know, the disparity of wealth. And I've commented before
Speaker 6: said people human beings are just are very strange. The
Speaker 6: same reason why the very few Christians like my favorite
Speaker 6: biblical verse, which is, it's easier for a camel to
Speaker 6: go through and I have the needle than for a
Speaker 6: rich man to enter the ken.
Speaker 3: You of God.
Speaker 6: I've never once quoted that to a Christian without them. Well,
Speaker 6: and they'll kind of, you know, scrunch their face up
Speaker 6: and try to justify.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Jesus didn't.
Speaker 6: I mean, they actually try to say what Jesus meant.
Speaker 6: You know this Jesus himself that said it. And well,
Speaker 6: you know, technically, a needle didn't mean like a needle.
Speaker 6: It was like this little you know, a small entrance
Speaker 6: to a that you passed through in the mountains or something. Okay, well,
Speaker 6: if that's true, I don't know that that's true. But
Speaker 6: if it's true, it still sounds like it was real
Speaker 6: difficult to do. So I think, you know, obviously Jesus
Speaker 6: was making a very clear analogy. But everyone wants you know,
Speaker 6: we all harbor aspirations of wealth. We all think about
Speaker 6: being what it must be like to be incredible wealthy.
Speaker 3: We all do.
Speaker 6: And because obviously it makes life easier and it gets
Speaker 6: you lots of cool stuff that you can't get otherwise.
Speaker 6: And but uh, it's the same kind of thing with
Speaker 6: the basic concept of what I talked about in Survival
Speaker 6: of the Riches, what Huey Long talked about long ago,
Speaker 6: And basically that's my basically what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We need to share the wealth, and people don't want
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 6: I can't tell you how many times they've teld me, well,
Speaker 6: I guess what your definition, rich I guess you're think
Speaker 6: anybody as Richard has more money than you. And it's
Speaker 6: like I got to try to tell him, Look, do
Speaker 6: you really think you have an I know your basic situation.
Speaker 6: Do you really think you have enough wealth that that
Speaker 6: somebody could come and take it?
Speaker 3: You have that you have extra wealth? Really And I
Speaker 3: don't know anybody like that. Even the people I.
Speaker 6: Know that are doing really well, they don't if they
Speaker 6: don't have anywhere near the amount of wealth. And I've
Speaker 6: tried to explain, you know, Huey Long's plan.
Speaker 3: He was he exempted.
Speaker 6: He wanted to exempt the first h one million dollars
Speaker 6: from income to any income tax. Now that was in
Speaker 6: the nineteen thirties. I'd be equivalent to about twelve million today.
Speaker 6: So who would not be you know, for a plan
Speaker 6: like that. Who the only people that could oppose. It
Speaker 6: would be the one percent of the one percent, the
Speaker 6: absolute top tiers. And that's what we're talking about, share
Speaker 6: the wealth. It's not about what the Democrats would say,
Speaker 6: raise the tax rates on the wealthy. It's not as
Speaker 6: simple as that, because they have all the they have
Speaker 6: all the loopholes, and you end up with situations like
Speaker 6: Jeff Bezos at Amazon not paying any taxes at all.
Speaker 6: Exposedly the richest guy in the world, they paid no taxes.
Speaker 6: I mean, what kind of system is that. But you
Speaker 6: don't hear the Democrats talk about him, necessarily because he's
Speaker 6: woke and he's on their side. He's supporting their causes,
Speaker 6: just like they don't hear them talk about Bill Gates.
Speaker 6: But Huey Long even back then you had the foundations
Speaker 6: that existed. Then you had the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation,
Speaker 6: the carnef Foundation, International Peace, which were all awful in
Speaker 6: their own ways, but he was already talking at them.
Speaker 6: He knew there was wealth there that was sheltered by
Speaker 6: taxes and there was unaudited. Now with the Gates Foundation,
Speaker 6: especially in the Clinton Foundation, all the newer foundations, in
Speaker 6: addition to the old standbys.
Speaker 3: They need to do an auditing.
Speaker 6: That's what I would do if I was doing I
Speaker 6: would demand an audit of those foundations, those tax refoundations.
Speaker 6: I can't imagine the wealth that's in the Gates Foundation,
Speaker 6: for instance, and would so when you're auditing the FED,
Speaker 6: which absolutely has to be done, you audit the FED,
Speaker 6: you show how rotten it is, and then you abolish
Speaker 6: it and you get people like Ron Paul and other
Speaker 6: honest economists to develop an honest money system. But this
Speaker 6: criminal counterfeiting is is is not, you know, not what
Speaker 6: we should be doing. But once you do that, then
Speaker 6: you get you get people again talking about it's just
Speaker 6: fundamental fairness. It's not why is it weak or socialist
Speaker 6: or whatever, just to talk about being fair.
Speaker 3: And this is the leftist in the it is.
Speaker 6: He Eugene Debs said, one of the great honest socialists,
Speaker 6: who was sent to prison during World War One for
Speaker 6: protesting uh protesting the war by the great liberal Woodrow
Speaker 6: Wilson Supreme Court upheld that. And that's where you can't
Speaker 6: ye all fire and a Crowdit theater came from, folks,
Speaker 6: so I know your history. That came from a decision
Speaker 6: by the great liberal Oliver Wendell Holmes, Supreme Court justice
Speaker 6: who cited that phrase to justify locking up World War
Speaker 6: One protesters. As I've said, many times, even if you
Speaker 6: accept that that that's legitimate, that you know, well, you
Speaker 6: can't ye all fire in a crowdit theater. You have
Speaker 6: free speechs, but they are exceptions, even if you accept that,
Speaker 6: by no measure, was Eugene Debs and all the other
Speaker 6: World War One protesters shouting fire in a crowded theater.
Speaker 6: And I think that's that's what the opposition at the
Speaker 6: times you'd have said, what are you talking about? That's
Speaker 6: you know, that's not that's not any remotely the same thing.
Speaker 6: But any rate, so this is you know, it's an
Speaker 6: issue that's close to my heart and Chuck and I
Speaker 6: his friend Maria Heller, it's close to her heart.
Speaker 3: She loves survival. The riches has been one of the
Speaker 3: biggest supporters of it.
Speaker 6: And it's but you know, people have been trained to
Speaker 6: that they think that you're coming after their money, which
Speaker 6: is the vast majority then would benefit in some way,
Speaker 6: you know, just just for to know what the math
Speaker 6: is on this, folks. When I wrote to the paperback
Speaker 6: edition that Naomi wrote the forward to I wrote an
Speaker 6: update updated afterward and update to the you know twenty
Speaker 6: whatever it was twenty nineteen, updated where it was published,
Speaker 6: and I used the stats at that time, and statistics
Speaker 6: are if you divide up there's so much wealth in
Speaker 6: the United States.
Speaker 3: If you divided up all the.
Speaker 6: Wealth equally between every man, woman, and child, it would
Speaker 6: come to three hundred and forty four thousand and something each.
Speaker 6: Now I'm not suggesting we do that, but that tells
Speaker 6: you how much money is out there. There has to
Speaker 6: be a better way. Nobody should be homeless when you
Speaker 6: have that kind of wealth, Nobody anywhere, Nobody should be
Speaker 6: hungry anywhere.
Speaker 3: I don't care what the problems they have.
Speaker 6: You have enough money to have, you know, real facilities
Speaker 6: that can help them.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of things that.
Speaker 6: Real liberal liberalism does. That kind of wealth that ought
Speaker 6: to open everybody's eyes.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: Really, you know, nobody needs to own multiple islands. And
Speaker 6: that's that was Huey Long's point, and that's why that's
Speaker 6: why he remains my hero, and why he remains someone
Speaker 6: who hated finger on the left as well as right,
Speaker 6: because Hughie actually got things done. He just didn't mouth platitudes, so.
Speaker 3: At any rate, so you can.
Speaker 6: It all about Hue and Survival of the Riches is
Speaker 6: a whole chapter devoted to him.
Speaker 3: And he's my hero. That's all there is to it.
Speaker 6: And you'll hear me talk a lot about that when
Speaker 6: I'm not talking conspiracy, because that's the greatest conspiracy ball.
Speaker 6: That's what I called it in Survival, the richest, the
Speaker 6: greatest conspiracy ball, and so I was it's wonderful to
Speaker 6: hear from people that are reading that, because I hear
Speaker 6: mostly from people about hidden history and crimes and cover ups,
Speaker 6: which is, you know, hidden History continues to get sold
Speaker 6: more than all my other books can.
Speaker 3: But there's amazing. So we'll go to all the break here, folks.
Speaker 6: So a little bit of different tonight because of the
Speaker 6: NA only one seconds, so we'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome back to the Donald Jeffrey Show. I love
Speaker 3: the caller.
Speaker 6: We had pretty sour, so again I love getting calls
Speaker 6: from you. So the phone lines are open at three
Speaker 6: one nine, five, two seven five zero one six again
Speaker 6: three one nine, five two seven five zero one six
Speaker 6: love your questions in the chat room as well, So
Speaker 6: let's take a lot, let's talk a little bit. And
Speaker 6: I sensed again with Naomi. That's why, you know, sometimes
Speaker 6: I don't know even the best people on the left,
Speaker 6: which would certainly qualify someone like Naomi Wolf, I don't
Speaker 6: know that they're all in. It's certainly the way I
Speaker 6: am on certain things. And I don't know if she
Speaker 6: would agree with me about the the so called insurrection.
Speaker 6: But I the more I write about the more I
Speaker 6: read about this and I write about it. I got
Speaker 6: another article coming up in the American Free Press about it.
Speaker 6: It's just astonishing to me that people are tolerating political
Speaker 6: prisoners in America, so gulag, americanicus, or whatever do you
Speaker 6: want to call it. These people, however you look at it,
Speaker 6: were at the worst misguided, and in fact they they
Speaker 6: can be charged with falling for Donald Trump's appeal and
Speaker 6: coming to Washington, d C. At his invitation, where he
Speaker 6: led them to believe that with the QAnon stuff that
Speaker 6: they would be mass arrest.
Speaker 3: There would be purp walks.
Speaker 6: Maybe, I think, I'm sure, you know, I think a
Speaker 6: lot of the people, people like Ashley Babbitt that you know,
Speaker 6: was shot by a still unidentified police officer, the only
Speaker 6: casualty that day, although they continue to act as if
Speaker 6: the insurrectionists are killed a bunch of people.
Speaker 3: I didn't kill anybody, but an identified cop did.
Speaker 6: But Ashley Babbitt came from San Diego, as lots of
Speaker 6: people that had come from all around the country. They
Speaker 6: didn't travel that distance just to hear a typical Donald
Speaker 6: Trump rally speech. They thought something big was going on.
Speaker 6: As Donald Trump had left the kettle there. There clearly
Speaker 6: was massive vote fraud. But I mean there's there's a
Speaker 6: massive vote fraud in the history that always have been,
Speaker 6: but it was over the top this time in my
Speaker 6: in my view, and so they thought, Okay, you know,
Speaker 6: we're going to stop the steal. This sounds like a
Speaker 6: big event, you know, and I don't think that. But
Speaker 6: and then you know, Trump gets up there, and if
Speaker 6: you listen to his speech, it was a.
Speaker 3: It was a typical rally. It was I can't believe
Speaker 3: on disappointing it must have been for those people.
Speaker 6: He said the same kind of nonsense he said his
Speaker 6: rallies over and over again, where's a bunch had nothing empty? Promises.
Speaker 6: But he he did say, and he said nothing to
Speaker 6: provoke them at all into doing anything violent. He said,
Speaker 6: you know, march patriot peacefully and patriotically. But he he
Speaker 6: did say, I'll march with you. And then what did
Speaker 6: he do. He instantly went back to the White House,
Speaker 6: hid himself in the situation room or wherever. And he
Speaker 6: wasn't anywhere near the Capitol. They went there thinking he
Speaker 6: was going to march with him and that because and
Speaker 6: then just look at it, what that event, whatever it was,
Speaker 6: would have been completely different. If the President of the
Speaker 6: United States is there leading that march, then it becomes
Speaker 6: something completely different. And you know, especially because I don't
Speaker 6: think anybody would have gone in the Capitol.
Speaker 3: But you know, you have video of the police officers
Speaker 3: waving them in.
Speaker 6: You have they identifyed that we know almost certainly the
Speaker 6: people that they committed the violence were.
Speaker 3: Were were the ones that were definitely undercover agents, There's
Speaker 3: no question about.
Speaker 6: And this has been a staple of all riots with
Speaker 6: something this big, and oddly, you know, even though they've
Speaker 6: gone after so many people like the retired cop from
Speaker 6: Baltimore from around I don't know where she's from, but
Speaker 6: she's a retired cop who was armed, armed with the tambourine. Seriously,
Speaker 6: they charged her with being armed because they couldn't find
Speaker 6: any guns. You have other people that you know, grandmothers
Speaker 6: that were taking selfies and stuff that are going to
Speaker 6: be that are forced to like political prisoners. Well, you know,
Speaker 6: see the errors of the way. We'll let you off
Speaker 6: if we repudiate everything. But those people that actually broke
Speaker 6: the windows, and they have pictures of them and everything.
Speaker 6: The people that were actually the violence, these were the
Speaker 6: undercover agents, and I don't think they were Antifa, although
Speaker 6: who knows, Antifa was Probably's government too. They were undercover
Speaker 6: FBI agents, as they are in most of these things,
Speaker 6: and they have no interest in prosecuting them. People like
Speaker 6: Joe Biggs, who was on air personality for Alex Jones
Speaker 6: for a long time. He did a lot of good
Speaker 6: work back when unfilt Wars was much better.
Speaker 3: He's in prison.
Speaker 6: He wrote it open the letter, very eloquent, open letter
Speaker 6: talking about how solidar you know, putting they're putting him
Speaker 6: in solitary confinement and they make them get naked, which
Speaker 6: is this is a weird psycho sexual thing that they
Speaker 6: began with Bradley Manning before. I guess she transitioned to
Speaker 6: Chelsea Manny when she was in prison. The first time,
Speaker 6: they kept him insight or heat whatever, in solitary confinement naked.
Speaker 6: So this is the new it's the solitary Refinement's bad enough,
Speaker 6: but now they throw you, apparently in a freezing room naked.
Speaker 3: So again for what for? For going to a political rally? Again?
Speaker 3: Trump and Trump?
Speaker 6: You know his even though he still has faithful people,
Speaker 6: millions people supporting him, he should have lost all supported
Speaker 6: to that because he threw them under the bus.
Speaker 3: And he has never mentioned him.
Speaker 6: He does he talk about them being in prison. How
Speaker 6: ridiculous it is. No, he doesn't talk anything because he
Speaker 6: talks about nothing that can't be uh you know, can't
Speaker 6: be put but you know it's something that's about himself.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 6: A couple of questions of chatterman, Mom, what do you
Speaker 6: think about mandatory backs for work? Except well, I think
Speaker 6: you can probably guess what my view. I don't believe
Speaker 6: in mandatory vaxations for anything.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I don't, you know, compulsory mandatory,
Speaker 3: you know those words. I cringe.
Speaker 6: Yet my body, my choice, I guess would be that. No, absolutely,
Speaker 6: and especially when you know you can and I didn't
Speaker 6: want to go like sense that I couldn't go that
Speaker 6: far with Naomi. But I don't believe that you know
Speaker 6: that this this saint has been proven to be even
Speaker 6: a strain. I mean, they've never isolated COVID nineteen. They
Speaker 6: tell you that they have no tests to isolate COVID nineteen,
Speaker 6: so they can't prove it exists. So this nonsense about
Speaker 6: a variant, they certainly don't have any tests to isolate
Speaker 6: a variant of a strain they haven't proven to exist,
Speaker 6: So these things are not that's not science, it's absurd.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 6: Absolutely against mandatory vaccinations. A city of Richmond is considering
Speaker 6: the first city in place. Yeah, I'm sure're gonna say.
Speaker 6: And what once they start you know these you know,
Speaker 6: America's leaders are lemmings. Once a few of them get
Speaker 6: on board, the law follow and that's what that's what happens.
Speaker 3: The FBI agency there.
Speaker 6: We should be arrested at well, absolutely anybody should, I
Speaker 6: mean just arrest whoever who resorted to violence and charge
Speaker 6: them with vandalism or whatever, not insurrection.
Speaker 3: Absolutely only one.
Speaker 6: Death of the Boston escer, except he promised to walk
Speaker 6: down the street with him to fight like hell. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he did say fight like hell and again that's you
Speaker 6: can do that. But that's you know, Trump always chooses
Speaker 6: his words ambiguously.
Speaker 3: That's why I think he's an actor. Uh.
Speaker 6: Wow, I got stripped and isolated several times. You've been
Speaker 6: out of texta.
Speaker 3: This is just priston. Wow, I didn't know, never hav
Speaker 3: been to prison. That shocks me.
Speaker 6: I think Babbitt is a sie op. I've heard well,
Speaker 6: you know, and people people think every there because we've.
Speaker 3: Been lied to so much.
Speaker 6: I don't blame anyone for thinking that's a sy opp
Speaker 6: or because if you look closely at any of these things,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, you find questions, Well, wasn't what was
Speaker 6: really going on there?
Speaker 3: I don't know, But.
Speaker 6: Regardless, the people that have been in prison, they've been
Speaker 6: held with that in many cases. That bail you're talking about,
Speaker 6: and now if it was wrong, and I've talked about
Speaker 6: it being wrong in Survival of the Roots and elsewhere.
Speaker 6: Most people don't realize how many people in our overcrowded
Speaker 6: prison systems, which are full of who knows how many
Speaker 6: innocent people because DNA evidence has shown just how calm
Speaker 6: it is. You know, who knows how many have been
Speaker 6: you know, executed.
Speaker 3: We just don't know.
Speaker 6: But I think a healthy chunk of those record number
Speaker 6: of prisoners are innocent. You have no business behind bars.
Speaker 6: The Dracronian sentences, some of them gets just in the inconsistency.
Speaker 3: You know, one day I'll probably.
Speaker 6: Write a book about the justice system, but I take
Speaker 6: notes on the most egregious things I see. But there's
Speaker 6: so many people that get sent up for life that
Speaker 6: that on.
Speaker 3: You know, some really dubious testimony.
Speaker 6: You're talking about reasonable doubt then, juries last thing you want, folks,
Speaker 6: is to sit, you know, with a jury of your peers,
Speaker 6: because they are blithering idiots. Ninety nine percent of the
Speaker 6: time they will send somebody away for life on the
Speaker 6: most questionable evidence. They don't obviously have no concept of
Speaker 6: reasonable doubt at all. And they also, on the other hand,
Speaker 6: will sometimes make a ridiculous decision to let somebody go
Speaker 6: that looks a lot guiltier than the people you convicted.
Speaker 6: So they seem to get it wrong majority of the time.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't want my faith in their hands never, so, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, I I hope that I can. I can
Speaker 6: stay away from any courtroom because to trust these people,
Speaker 6: you don't want to do that. Always Provocateur's president event
Speaker 6: in the post nine eleven Aras Sert. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 6: there's and that's when Tucker Carlson talked about it was shocked,
Speaker 6: but that he but this is something I talked to
Speaker 6: the whole section and hid industry on it.
Speaker 3: You know, there's you know, we know that Timothy Leary
Speaker 3: was CIA. We know that Glorious Steinem was CIA. And
Speaker 3: we know.
Speaker 6: That the bodyguard for Fred Hampton was a government agent.
Speaker 6: The bodyguard from Malcolm X was a government agent. The
Speaker 6: guy cradling Martin Luther King's head in his hands on
Speaker 6: the balcony at the Running Motel was a CI agent.
Speaker 3: We know this.
Speaker 6: They were infiltrated everywhere and uh and yet we look
Speaker 6: at these things and we don't. You know, the First
Speaker 6: World Trade Center, I talked about that, uh in ninety three,
Speaker 6: where the guy was you know, was set up by
Speaker 6: the FBI to do and he tried to back out,
Speaker 6: he tried to or others. I mean, you read about
Speaker 6: it and hidden history. I haven't asked about it much
Speaker 6: in any interviews. But it's fascinating to see, you know,
Speaker 6: what happens when somebody, you know, one of these assets
Speaker 6: actually got a pang of conscience and I don't want
Speaker 6: to do this. And you can see how the FBI works,
Speaker 6: Jelly says. Sometimes nullification there's the only any chance when
Speaker 6: being route. Yeah, I mean, I'd like to see more
Speaker 6: jury nullification because they do have that right and they
Speaker 6: don't want you to know you have that right. Blantifa,
Speaker 6: I was paid a handsome sum for that video. Yeah,
Speaker 6: everything sucks here. Well I can't. I can't argue with
Speaker 6: it too much.
Speaker 3: It did, but.
Speaker 6: It wasn't all that always that way, Like I said
Speaker 6: as recently as like even the nineties, this was a
Speaker 6: different country and that was with you know, horrible you know,
Speaker 6: Bill Clinton administration and tons of corruption everywhere, but there
Speaker 6: was still a lot more confidence. And that's the difference
Speaker 6: between you go back to the fifties or something. You
Speaker 6: think of America's golden there, which, by the way, we
Speaker 6: had a ninety percent top tax rate er in the
Speaker 6: fifth I try to point that out to conservativecy you know,
Speaker 6: your golden there had a.
Speaker 3: Ninety percent top tax rate. But uh, you know, you
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 6: To that era and you can see that even though
Speaker 6: the corruption was there. I mean Eisenhower wasn't my favorite person,
Speaker 6: but he he looks great in retrospect. And you know,
Speaker 6: certainly the Congress people, there were tons of people that
Speaker 6: you know, Sam Raber and these kind of awful people
Speaker 6: I think that were in Congress. Johnson obviously, but there
Speaker 6: was a competency. So you know, the analogy with Mussolini
Speaker 6: the trains ran on time, that that you know that
Speaker 6: there's a lot to that.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's.
Speaker 6: A lot easier I think to take being uh I guess,
Speaker 6: to be under tyranny. Even I mean even somebody like China,
Speaker 6: as bad as China is, they're very efficient.
Speaker 3: So I mean that doesn't mean you want.
Speaker 6: What the kind of totalitarian and the control and living
Speaker 6: in bunk beds and everything. But we're headed that direction.
Speaker 6: But we're going to be worse than because I don't
Speaker 6: see any signs of any competency. And that's what when
Speaker 6: you look at the mess we have we're dealing with now,
Speaker 6: when you look at the Lori Lightfoots and the Gretchen Whitners,
Speaker 6: the Gavin Newsom's people, like this that were not you know,
Speaker 6: and all the school board members you see at the
Speaker 6: meetings where the parents are finally getting some gump shit up.
Speaker 3: You see the arrogance and how bad they are.
Speaker 6: That at that level, you realize that what an incredible
Speaker 6: job it would be to try to vacuum all this
Speaker 6: corruption out, because it's not anything at the time. You
Speaker 6: have to start at the bottom and work up, and
Speaker 6: you have to start at those school boards. You have
Speaker 6: to get rid of those awful, awful people on most
Speaker 6: of the school boards and started, and I hope you
Speaker 6: can start getting some honest mayors and then governors and
Speaker 6: working its way up.
Speaker 3: First I heard the guard that shot bad was a
Speaker 3: private security guard working for Senator.
Speaker 6: But I have to assume these three cops killed themselves
Speaker 6: for Summers. Absolutely the suicide the cops very strange, and
Speaker 6: I don't believe it was the riots stress. I stood
Speaker 6: in the caged armies round of one hundred thousand prisoners.
Speaker 3: I got over it. And again, the.
Speaker 6: However you look at it doesn't matter whether even if
Speaker 6: I believed that that this was And again I don't
Speaker 6: know how anybody if you can look at that was
Speaker 6: an insurrection and again just compared to the riots we
Speaker 6: had last summer that you know, that was like walk
Speaker 6: in the park compared to you know, your average BLM riots.
Speaker 3: So you have to have standards.
Speaker 6: If and the authority stood down, then so if that
Speaker 6: and I go back to the I think in the
Speaker 6: late sixties, late sixties, early seventies, I talked about this
Speaker 6: last year, a group of Black Panthers entered the uh
Speaker 6: the California State Capitol building, armed with like, you know,
Speaker 6: assault weapons. They walked in and uh, you know, nobody
Speaker 6: had nobody had any weapon.
Speaker 3: And the so called insurrectionist in Washington, d C.
Speaker 6: You know, the girl with a tambourine, a lot of
Speaker 6: cell phones, was it, uh, some mace supposed you know,
Speaker 6: kind of a you know, very weak insurrection. But nothing
Speaker 6: happened to the Black panthers.
Speaker 3: And this was this was the end.
Speaker 6: If there was you know, if this was a racist society,
Speaker 6: it was a lot more racist than uh nothing.
Speaker 3: They didn't even get a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 6: They just they did compiscate their guns and they were
Speaker 6: allowed to go on their way.
Speaker 3: They didn't pay a fine. Now contrast that.
Speaker 6: To what we're seeing here. It says it was legal
Speaker 6: to do so in the Panthers at a time. Yeah, well,
Speaker 6: I mean I understand, but it's it's still they were
Speaker 6: if the concept is you're storming, because they clearly were.
Speaker 3: Pissed off and they had reason to be.
Speaker 6: I guess And again, I you know, I'm familiar with
Speaker 6: the Black Panthers did some good work and their communities
Speaker 6: and everything, and they were infiltrated by government agents left
Speaker 6: and right, just as the KKK was. But and I've
Speaker 6: heard that argument was legal to do with that, but
Speaker 6: it's nobody had And again we can't if they can
Speaker 6: show that video I've seen the cops waved them inside.
Speaker 6: Why are if you're conducting an investigation, the first thing
Speaker 6: you're gonna do. The first thing you do is you
Speaker 6: look at that video and you identify who those police
Speaker 6: officers were, and you call them in and you say, okay,
Speaker 6: maybe you think that they're part of the conspiracy of insurrections,
Speaker 6: but whatever you find out, Okay, why did you wave
Speaker 6: them inside the capitol? Who told you to do that?
Speaker 6: And that's the first thing that you that you do,
Speaker 6: and you also go and you look at the video
Speaker 6: the people then they have these people they know who
Speaker 6: was that broke the windows. You find those undercover FBI
Speaker 6: agents or whoever they were, and you.
Speaker 3: Got to them.
Speaker 6: But those are the people they're not going after. Instead,
Speaker 6: they're concentrating on the grandmothers. And this is a political stunt,
Speaker 6: and it's designed you know, you may think it's okay,
Speaker 6: it's just Trump supporters, but it's designed to strike fear
Speaker 6: in the heart of Americans that this is what happens
Speaker 6: when you try to to do anything.
Speaker 3: And they really didn't try.
Speaker 6: It, didn't do anything, but it shows you if you
Speaker 6: really did try to have a show of force. If
Speaker 6: a bunch of those militia groups and whites supremacists that
Speaker 6: they claim exists, I don't know if they exist. They
Speaker 6: sure keep they keep themselves hidden pretty well. But if
Speaker 6: you find these groups out there in the country and
Speaker 6: they decide to come to watching it at one time,
Speaker 6: and you get hundreds of them, if not thousands of them,
Speaker 6: that suddenly march on the Capitol and they're armed, you
Speaker 6: know what will happen.
Speaker 3: They'll probably drone bomb them.
Speaker 6: I guess I don't know, but I mean that would
Speaker 6: first of all, that would never happen because I can
Speaker 6: tell you First of all, these groups don't exist, and
Speaker 6: people talk about Second Amendment people and gun you're seeing
Speaker 6: during the lockdown. The mentality of those Second Amendment people
Speaker 6: is that I want mugguns.
Speaker 3: Nobody's going to take mug guns.
Speaker 6: But they don't care about anything beyond that. The only
Speaker 6: way their guns will come into play is if someone
Speaker 6: tries to attack their personal property.
Speaker 3: They're never going to take their.
Speaker 6: Guns out and fight for the larger you know, the
Speaker 6: larger issues that you know, they've been locked down unconstitutionally,
Speaker 6: and obviously that's otherwise you would have seen it by now.
Speaker 6: Have you seen any note? Not not at all. Let's see,
Speaker 6: they're gonna try all travelers to the US to be vaccinated. Yeah,
Speaker 6: oh that's what. But well they require the migrants coming
Speaker 6: through the border. I haven't seen that because again, nobody's talking.
Speaker 6: If if this was a real pandemic, first of all,
Speaker 6: you'd see more signs of it. But if it was
Speaker 6: the last thing you'd be doing is having a wide
Speaker 6: open southern border and people coming across who are not
Speaker 6: being checked, not being tested. Who knows how many of
Speaker 6: them have this dreaded thing, and not only that, they're
Speaker 6: being carted about the country.
Speaker 3: Some of them were being carted on airlines.
Speaker 6: My daughter just went to Hawaii and she had to
Speaker 6: get a COVID test before she went because she hasn't
Speaker 6: gotten vaccinated. Like me, very proud of my kids, they
Speaker 6: haven't got vaccinated, but she had to have a COVID test.
Speaker 6: And so the airline industry is regulating that stuff. You're
Speaker 6: having to mask up and all that. But they're taking
Speaker 6: migrants that just and they're using again they're they're flying
Speaker 6: them that expense and they're certainly not paying for a
Speaker 6: ticket just to you know, be taken around the country
Speaker 6: to try to change demographics, which is again it's is awful.
Speaker 6: It's not the way is a free country is supposed
Speaker 6: to work. But no one questions it. If this was
Speaker 6: a real pandemic, the people in charge would be worried
Speaker 6: about catching it too, and they wouldn't want people who
Speaker 6: hadn't been tested coming from other areas of the world.
Speaker 3: But you don't see any evidence of that.
Speaker 6: Instead, it's business as usual, and that's what gives the gameway.
Speaker 6: Much as you know, Nancy Pelosi and people like that,
Speaker 6: if they really thought there was a pandemic, do you
Speaker 6: think Nancy Pelosi eighty years old in the highest risk group,
Speaker 6: would she really be taking her mask off every chance
Speaker 6: she'd get in public in private, so she gets caught
Speaker 6: all the time.
Speaker 3: And Harrislon's of course not.
Speaker 6: She'd be as paranoid as any other eighty year old
Speaker 6: that I know in my family and out there, they're
Speaker 6: all they're terrified, but they're.
Speaker 3: Not in the know. Nancy Pelosi's in the know.
Speaker 6: So I think again, these these are obviously, you know,
Speaker 6: obvious indicators that this is not a what it's purported
Speaker 6: to be cops probably agents. That's why don Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's definite true. To hell with DC, Let's break up
Speaker 6: like we're supposed to be. I could care less about
Speaker 6: most of this country. Well, yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: The army would fold that the way Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'd like to think so, but I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know what a real show of force from
Speaker 3: the Eric.
Speaker 6: People, I don't know they've they've never seen it, because
Speaker 6: they considered that if that that was a show of force.
Speaker 6: A lot of old, you know, very law binding people
Speaker 6: who were stayed within the purple ropes largely, who didn't
Speaker 6: even have any graffiti didn't tear anything down. That most
Speaker 6: of the worst thing that he is the one guy
Speaker 6: put his you know, his unwashed boots onto Lady Pelosi's
Speaker 6: desk and a solar electern.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, what are radicals? But I don't know.
Speaker 6: That's why conservatism is a losing side. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: conservatism is I and sometimes I get get mistaken for conservative,
Speaker 6: which is because I criticized so called liberals so much.
Speaker 6: The last thing I am is a conservative because conservative
Speaker 6: implies that you believe there's something worth conserving. What about
Speaker 6: present day America is worth conserving?
Speaker 3: Tell me what it is? Nothing? We are an absolute mess.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: If I was in the living in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 6: if we had that lifestyle, then yeah, that's a lot
Speaker 6: that was worth conserving. Then even again up intil the nineties,
Speaker 6: there is nothing worth We are just a complete mess.
Speaker 6: We have our so called traditions don't exist anymore. There
Speaker 6: are I mean, they're you know, maybe in name only,
Speaker 6: but they're belittle They like Naomi was talking about the
Speaker 6: woman that was talking about Fourth of July.
Speaker 3: They're belittle.
Speaker 6: You saw what happened, you know during the fourth Star
Speaker 6: you have a person in Congress vaccine waters again one
Speaker 6: of the many embarrassments we have as leaders, which is
Speaker 6: can only happen and totally tyrannical society.
Speaker 3: She you know, starts.
Speaker 6: Talking blithering on about this is ridiculous racist stage life.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, so we don't have any traditions,
Speaker 3: and you can't.
Speaker 6: I said many times, you can't have a cohesive society.
Speaker 6: You can't have a civilization if you don't have any
Speaker 6: foundational principles that you all agree on.
Speaker 3: We don't have any what what is a foundation?
Speaker 6: You know, even they're in a civil war when the
Speaker 6: country was divided, but not like this, you had lots
Speaker 6: of foundational principles. First of all, the vast majority believed
Speaker 6: in God. There are Bible, you know, people that believed
Speaker 6: in the Bible, believed in God, they believed in the
Speaker 6: Ten Commandments. I mean, you know, they're pretty much all believed.
Speaker 6: You know, murder was wrong, rape was wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 6: I certainly I don't think the majority of Americans believe
Speaker 6: in God. They certainly don't believe in the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 6: So these are foundational principles that we can't agree on
Speaker 6: that we just you know, maybe the foundational principle now
Speaker 6: would be RACI is is wrong because you know whatever
Speaker 6: that means. But I don't think you can have a
Speaker 6: society on something like that. I just really don't. So
Speaker 6: it's just we're, you know, we're we're we're we're poised
Speaker 6: for implosion or explosion or something.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: Citizen Jicks, is that you Fetzer yet, Jim Fetzer being
Speaker 6: in the chat room? That would be interesting? How fat?
Speaker 6: How fat the army is? Yeah, I mean, you know
Speaker 6: it's it's probably so.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. They don't want to. You know,
Speaker 3: you can't body shame the soldiers, I guess. Uh. And
Speaker 3: then he.
Speaker 6: Posts for the camera. The entire thing is a sign
Speaker 6: which which who posts for the camera? I mean, I'm
Speaker 6: not sure which which one you're talking about. Uh, let's
Speaker 6: see Maxine Waters. Yeah, people are joking about Maxine Water's name,
Speaker 6: but you know this is uh. I mean Maxine Waters
Speaker 6: briefly was interested back in the day when Gary Webb,
Speaker 6: a very courageous reporter before they knocked him off and
Speaker 6: claimed he killed himself by shoot himself twice in the
Speaker 6: head and his family believes that story, by the way,
Speaker 6: But back in the day, she was, along with the
Speaker 6: rest of the Black Caucus Congressional Black Caucus, were interested
Speaker 6: in his premise that or his contingent that the CIA
Speaker 6: was helping to bring cat crack cocaine into the inner cities.
Speaker 3: But again, Maxine.
Speaker 6: Waters, like the rest of the so called black leaders,
Speaker 6: has such a narrow range of interest, and they all revolve.
Speaker 3: Around black blackness, black nob that's her only.
Speaker 6: And I've said many times where I would love to
Speaker 6: talk to some of these so called black leaders. Imagine
Speaker 6: having a conversation with al sharp to the stipulation is
Speaker 6: you can't talk about race. We have to talk about
Speaker 6: other things. Do you think he could give Do you think,
Speaker 6: Maxine Waters, do you think any of these people could
Speaker 6: give an interview, could talk about any I've never heard
Speaker 6: him talk about any other subject. And maybe they go
Speaker 6: ten seconds with that, and I don't know, but it
Speaker 6: would be interesting to see that.
Speaker 3: What's something should I really see differently done? One day?
Speaker 3: We have to have a discussion in public?
Speaker 6: Okay, well, that's also the guy with the Viking custom
Speaker 6: on him and a few others posing. But yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean that guy was you know really uh yes, FBI
Speaker 6: and form and Sharpton, absolutely, and that's people don't realize
Speaker 6: what his history was.
Speaker 3: Al Al Sharpton was a common crack dealer.
Speaker 6: He was a crack dealer, and he was caught, you know,
Speaker 6: on camera, trying to sell crack to an undercover agent
Speaker 6: and he was turned into an FBI in formant.
Speaker 3: That's the history of Al.
Speaker 6: Sharpton, who, but but for the grace of that undercover
Speaker 6: agent and for the FBI wanting to recruit him, would be,
Speaker 6: you know, just another black statistic, another black in prison
Speaker 6: for selling drugs.
Speaker 3: Common crack dealer he was. That's what he was. And
Speaker 3: so the idea that he's some kind of rich ridiculous.
Speaker 6: But you don't hear and not. I mean, this guy
Speaker 6: survived the on a brawly nonsense.
Speaker 3: And by the way, when I was talking about Robert F.
Speaker 6: Kennedy Junior's journals, he didn't have kind things to say
Speaker 6: about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson either. He specifically mentioned
Speaker 6: how did Sharpton survive the tawany brawley thing? I just think,
Speaker 6: how how did he become even more famous after that?
Speaker 6: When they admitted it was talking about hoaxes. There's a
Speaker 6: hoax and this guy. That's where he burst a public prominence.
Speaker 6: That's where he first went from crack dealer to you know,
Speaker 6: respected black leader.
Speaker 3: And you talk about Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 6: And now he looks like a bad bobble ahead of
Speaker 6: himself yelling yeah he does.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I guess he lost like two hundred pounds or something.
Speaker 6: I think the fat Al Sharpton was, you know, it
Speaker 6: was more. U was a little easier on the eyes.
Speaker 6: I think, no comedy was James Brown's. No, well I
Speaker 6: didn't know that, but I know he he he had.
Speaker 3: A connection to James Brown. Yeah he was.
Speaker 6: That's what he was with, you know, some kind of
Speaker 6: involvement with him. Why do you lose one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty pounds?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he started looked sick like I think people for
Speaker 6: a long time thought he was sick because he did
Speaker 6: lose so much waking.
Speaker 3: He doesn't look good.
Speaker 6: He doesn't look a bobblehead. This name comes up now
Speaker 6: and then when I listen to offew stories. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: that's where we're And you know, it's if those of
Speaker 6: you who maybe are new to me and have listened,
Speaker 6: you know my my theory. So so much of this
Speaker 6: is around that, I believe. Uh, and why I seem
Speaker 6: so much to be taking up for, you know, the
Speaker 6: so called Trump's side, it is because they the other
Speaker 6: side is just uh you know, I touched a little
Speaker 6: bit on the Sznaomi. I believe Trump was an actor.
Speaker 6: I call him Trumpetstein, the Trumpetstein project. I believe that
Speaker 6: he was recruited to play a role to tap into
Speaker 6: the populism that was out there.
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders tapped into some of it.
Speaker 6: But I think they picked you know, they they picked
Speaker 6: Trump for a good reason. He had, you know, he
Speaker 6: could appeal to more of all that white anger out there,
Speaker 6: the middle class anger, the same kind of Reagan democ rats,
Speaker 6: people that are fed up with a system.
Speaker 3: But his his rhetoric, Reagan's I mean, uh Reagan.
Speaker 6: Trump's rhetoric during that twenty sixteen campaign was at times revolutionary.
Speaker 6: Uh you know, he he called the I mean, he
Speaker 6: was saying things that no other candidate said. I mean,
Speaker 6: I you know, I like, I said, look this is
Speaker 6: I mean, I couldn't I couldn't stand his personality. I
Speaker 6: thought he was ridiculous, like so, I mean, I you know,
Speaker 6: I thought he was incredibly distasteful. I thought that show
Speaker 6: that was so stupid where he said, yeah, fied that.
Speaker 6: You know, typical Americans ate that up. You know why
Speaker 6: why that was popular, I don't know. Again, bully personality.
Speaker 6: I never thought he would be president, and I never
Speaker 6: thought he would be saying the things he said. But
Speaker 6: he was alluding to conspiracies, who was eluding nine to
Speaker 6: eleven truth, alluding to JFK, alluding to Vince Foster.
Speaker 3: But of course, you know he talks about Vin. You know,
Speaker 3: some people think he was murdered, you know. And then
Speaker 3: his his second Supreme Court nominee, his Brett Kavanaugh.
Speaker 6: Who led the Vince Foster cover up for Canadon Star.
Speaker 6: That's Donald Trump in a nutshell. You don't hear anybody
Speaker 6: else say that about him. You had people you break
Speaker 6: down on the Trump meter, the Trump default, the Trump
Speaker 6: demarcation line. You know, it's no more amazing discy line,
Speaker 6: It's a Trump line, something like. You know, the Brett
Speaker 6: Kavanaugh thing falls on that where you know, on the
Speaker 6: one side, you had the people that.
Speaker 3: Love all he's a great guy, you know, they were
Speaker 3: unfair to brit Cavanaugh. And the other side is you know,
Speaker 3: you know, he's uh the worst saw my god.
Speaker 6: You know, he assaulted this girl, you know, forty years
Speaker 6: before they could remember the day and time it happened.
Speaker 6: But you know, so that's that's Trump. And nobody talks about,
Speaker 6: you know the fact that you know he was instrumental
Speaker 6: and withholding information the jfk assassination from Jefferson Morley and more.
Speaker 6: You know, he also led the cover up int Vince
Speaker 6: Foster's death.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's but that's Trump. That's the Trumpet
Speaker 3: sign project.
Speaker 6: And you can still find you know, I wrote an
Speaker 6: article the Trumpets Sign Project. She's probably been a couple
Speaker 6: of years ago. But I mean I caught on to
Speaker 6: Trump real quick. As you could see in all his rhetoric,
Speaker 6: he did nothing that he said he was doing so
Speaker 6: basically for Donald Trump. And this is why I get people,
Speaker 6: get some of the enemies on both sides, and I
Speaker 6: get supporters on both sides too. But it's because I'm
Speaker 6: a Trump agnostic. Like my friend John Barber used to say,
Speaker 6: he came up with that ternam and it's a perfect description.
Speaker 6: Trump agnostic. You know, I don't I don't hate or
Speaker 6: love him. I think he's an actor. You know, he's
Speaker 6: you know, he's pretty, he's if he's not an actor,
Speaker 6: he's a buffoon that they just used or whatever. But
Speaker 6: I believe that the country has been divided over somebody
Speaker 6: who the people that hate him hate him for things
Speaker 6: he never did, and the people that love him love
Speaker 6: him for things he never did.
Speaker 3: Because bottom line.
Speaker 6: Is, Trump spent four years doing mostly tweeting nonsensical stuff,
Speaker 6: claiming he was going to do stuff, threatening stuff, calling names,
Speaker 6: getting into the gutter, into cafeteria food fights with the
Speaker 6: ridiculous celebrities that was his presidency, meanwhile surrounding himself with
Speaker 6: almost nothing but never Trumper's I said many times I
Speaker 6: would like to know how many people in Trump's administration
Speaker 6: voted for him.
Speaker 3: I don't think there were very many. And uh, you know,
Speaker 3: but most people don't look at it that way. Oh cool,
Speaker 3: we have another caller. Okay, let's take this call. You're
Speaker 3: on the line, caller, don Yes, this.
Speaker 1: Is Tom Pony from Columbia, Illinois, one of your Facebook friends.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, Tom, h let's talk to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a question about this COVID. Okay, they
Speaker 1: left the saying our biggest problem is the unvaccinated, right,
Speaker 1: But ye are beginning to be a number of doctors
Speaker 1: saying our number one problem is there is no early
Speaker 1: treatment once you are diagnosed as a positive COVID case.
Speaker 1: And I agree. I've done some research and there's nothing
Speaker 1: out there that can be prescribed by your doctor if
Speaker 1: you call your doctor, because I was thinking, oh, I
Speaker 1: call my doctor and say give me a prescription for hydroxychloroquinn. Sure,
Speaker 1: you know, it seemed to work for President Trump. And
Speaker 1: but in researching it, I found that they pulled it.
Speaker 1: There was an emergency use authorization on it, and they
Speaker 1: done away with that and may have last year based
Speaker 1: on a totally fraudulent article appearing in Lancet. So they
Speaker 1: found out two weeks later, you know, that it was
Speaker 1: fraudulent and they retracted that article, but they never did
Speaker 1: come back and issue the emergency use authorization again for
Speaker 1: hydroxy corkland. Anyway, I've done some more research and there's
Speaker 1: a doctor I guess she's a doctor and an attorney.
Speaker 1: Simone Gold. Have you heard of her?
Speaker 3: Yes? I have. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She has a group called America's Frontline Doctors, and she
Speaker 1: had a summit last year and then they had another
Speaker 1: summit this year last month, and she had another doctor
Speaker 1: lawyer on there. I'm gonna get his name in my
Speaker 1: notes here, doctor Mitchell, and he had just retired last year,
Speaker 1: and at that time there were articles appearing in the
Speaker 1: New York Times and there was one paper coming out
Speaker 1: of Turkey that said there would be three point three
Speaker 1: million people that would die in Sub Saharan Africa, which
Speaker 1: is South Africa. Okay, So he he followed the data
Speaker 1: for sixteen months and last month he gave a talk
Speaker 1: again he said, do you know how many deaths there
Speaker 1: were in South Africa? One and fifty eight thousand. So
Speaker 1: in his conclusions he said that US citizens are twenty
Speaker 1: two times more likely to die of COVID than these
Speaker 1: countries in South Africa. And you know what they are.
Speaker 1: There's some of the most unsanitary countries, you know, with
Speaker 1: the malaria and everything going on. I think they call
Speaker 1: it malaria endemic. So I think they got a point.
Speaker 1: You know, we need to get some treatments, early treatments,
Speaker 1: because there's really two stages that when you first get COVID,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like the flu. You know, you got
Speaker 1: a fever and maybe a cough and if you would
Speaker 1: treat it, you know, in those first few days, the week,
Speaker 1: ten days, it would never get to that stage where
Speaker 1: you know they're going to put you on a ventilator
Speaker 1: and kill you.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I think last year there was a statistic that eighty
Speaker 1: five percent of the people that went on a ventilator died. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get your opinion of that.
Speaker 1: And and I don't you probably had read some articles
Speaker 1: about it all.
Speaker 3: So sure, Well, the ventilators, we know that.
Speaker 6: You know, they're getting a thirty one thousand dollars bonus,
Speaker 6: so they have The hospitals have a great financial incentive
Speaker 6: to put patients on the.
Speaker 1: See these two guys that wrote the article for planted uh,
Speaker 1: they were working for a company that was coming out
Speaker 1: with rendisc is it.
Speaker 6: Renders that's that's that's that's Fauci's and Fauci and Trump
Speaker 6: both have a financial interest in that. And again Trump,
Speaker 6: you talk about the old uh, the Okie Doka, you
Speaker 6: talk about the four thousand degree chests. When he supposedly
Speaker 6: got covid, if he even got it, he did not
Speaker 6: take hydroxychlorine, which which is what he should have done.
Speaker 3: He'd been talking up in the media. Everybody hates him.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So what does he do?
Speaker 6: Of course he doesn't take that. He brags about writ gizevere.
Speaker 6: You know, Fauci's financial.
Speaker 1: Taking it like in March of last year. Yes, like areative?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, he was, yes exactly. And then he
Speaker 3: then he gets it and instead.
Speaker 6: Of his whole sports Yeah, right on, He's gonna take
Speaker 6: how drux No Trump.
Speaker 3: Trump doesn't work that way affair. Yes. Oh, and he
Speaker 3: bragged about how great it was, you know, again against
Speaker 3: his arch enemy Fauci. This is all theater, man. They're
Speaker 3: both making money because they both have a.
Speaker 6: Vested interest in remdesivir. It's it's it's it's all a theater.
Speaker 6: It's it's so hard because people are so distressed, specially
Speaker 6: with Trump. They either love or hate him, and you
Speaker 6: can't it's so hard to either side to get him
Speaker 6: to move to realize. Look this guy, you know, just
Speaker 6: analyze this, okayse He.
Speaker 1: Said it was at the head of the Food and
Speaker 1: Drug Administry FDA that pulled the hydroxy chloric when the
Speaker 1: approved list. Within a couple of months of that, he
Speaker 1: went to work for a company that that was associated
Speaker 1: with MODERNA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, so sure.
Speaker 1: You know there's there's there's money behind just about every decision.
Speaker 1: And I'm not liking it.
Speaker 6: No, No, it's it's it's it's And again I just
Speaker 6: I wish people that. So he had to make make
Speaker 6: myself clear about Trump. I don't know how many times
Speaker 6: I could do it that. You got seventy five eighty
Speaker 6: million people out there, who if you don't know by
Speaker 6: now that you guys are awake, this is the awake people.
Speaker 3: These are the wake people. You are awake.
Speaker 6: You know the corruption there, you know the woke tyrannies there.
Speaker 6: You hate this authoritarianism.
Speaker 3: You know it's.
Speaker 6: It's unconstitutional, it's unprecedented, it's incompatible with any notion of
Speaker 6: liberty or freedom. But you keep looking to this giant
Speaker 6: orange buffoon that this guy is the answer.
Speaker 3: He's not. He had four You act like he didn't
Speaker 3: have four years. He did nothing to stop it at all.
Speaker 3: So again I told you, but you know, if you've
Speaker 3: read me and you listen to me, you know what
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 6: But it's uh, please find someone. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: you know whoever you're going to go to. He's Robert F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior would be a much better person to put
Speaker 3: your faith in.
Speaker 1: Getting back to what I originally called on the early treatment.
Speaker 1: I did see an interview between Dale Victory and a
Speaker 1: Richard Bartlett to a doctor, and this bart doctor Bartlett
Speaker 1: was saying he would tell people to use Boodet denied.
Speaker 1: But apparently you can go into any Walmart, CBS, Walgreens,
Speaker 1: any pharmacy and buy this stuff for about ten bucks.
Speaker 1: It's an inhaler and apparently it's it's very effective.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a little there. I mean, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't even understand the hydroxyl chlorine. And there's a
Speaker 6: there's another one too. I can't remember what the other
Speaker 6: one is. But there are two two treatments out there
Speaker 6: supposedly that have been very effective and cheap at But
Speaker 6: hospitals have even banned these, uh, these treatments, which is again,
Speaker 6: this is if you have any doubt that this is
Speaker 6: not a real thing, look at that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: This is a medical industrial complex. If people want to
Speaker 6: take that, they have their faith in it. There's a
Speaker 6: lot of evidence out there that it works. Why would
Speaker 6: you stop them from doing it? But the hospitals are
Speaker 6: doing it they're not allowing them to take that in
Speaker 6: the hospitals. You have to go home if you're going
Speaker 6: to take that. I mean, that's horrible. What kind of
Speaker 6: system does that?
Speaker 1: Three that I have seen that or that work real
Speaker 1: well together? Or hydroxychloric when a zistra mice.
Speaker 6: And yes, and zinc zinc to me, well, we have
Speaker 6: the chat quina too or quina and yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 6: But I think it's even some way up. So there
Speaker 6: they have you know, think, yeah, absolutely zinc is is great,
Speaker 6: but you know they don't. They don't want to hear. Instead,
Speaker 6: they want you.
Speaker 3: To take the REMDISI here.
Speaker 6: You know, they wanted to so that doctor Fauci can
Speaker 6: make more money and Trump can make.
Speaker 3: More money from his h his alleged enemy.
Speaker 1: That he Well, i've read the reports aren't too good
Speaker 1: about this. No, it's helped some people. I guess it
Speaker 1: helped Trump, but there's bad reports on it too.
Speaker 6: Well, if Trump even had it, like I said, you're
Speaker 6: talking to people thinking that that things are hoaxes, didn't
Speaker 6: even have it, I don't know, man, I mean I
Speaker 6: know that's anything with I think the whole thing could
Speaker 6: have been a charade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have been anyway, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: go so other callers can call in. And it's good
Speaker 1: talking to you again.
Speaker 3: Oh it's great to thank you so much for your
Speaker 3: support times. I appreciate it. Okay, okay, take care, Thank you,
Speaker 3: sir Thomas.
Speaker 6: He's he's he's been a loyal supporter, uh for quite
Speaker 6: a while. Okay, let's see uh shiny message for political
Speaker 6: parties and that term limits absolutely need do terminal emits.
Speaker 6: And and again everybody, that's one of those things where
Speaker 6: Trump talked about it didn't he did you did he
Speaker 6: do anything to stop to I mean, just look at
Speaker 6: all the things he talked about.
Speaker 3: He did nothing.
Speaker 6: Even on something like the JFK files. He claimed he
Speaker 6: was going to do it talk and then he backed
Speaker 6: out at the last second. It admitted that the intelligence
Speaker 6: agency's you know, made him back off.
Speaker 5: This is you know.
Speaker 6: Somebody mentioned Brian too. He endedfed Brian Tult, author of
Speaker 6: the fixes. That would be a great guess, he would be.
Speaker 6: I need to contact him again. I tried to get
Speaker 6: him on eye protests. I've communicated with him, you know,
Speaker 6: and I believe the sports are fixed as well, and
Speaker 6: I've been I started talking about that back in the seventies,
Speaker 6: but Brian beat me to beat me to the book
Speaker 6: fixes in I might even thought of a title like that. Uh.
Speaker 6: He would be great to have on, So I had
Speaker 6: to try to ask him, maybe this time works better.
Speaker 6: I know, the Friday time didn't work for him, so
Speaker 6: I could never get him on there. Same thing with
Speaker 6: Vince Palomarra. His Friday time I didn't work for him,
Speaker 6: but I'd like to get him on. And he's one
Speaker 6: of the few people's Although you know, he and I
Speaker 6: don't agree, he's completely on. I think he thinks Joe
Speaker 6: Biden's a great guy. He's a you know, a typical
Speaker 6: UH kind of establishment liberal Democrat, but he's fantastic on
Speaker 6: the UH on the secret Service of the assassination. Okay,
Speaker 6: Zinc Liquorice Roote helped me when I had whatever the
Speaker 6: hell it was I had in twenty twenty. Yeah, Zinc
Speaker 6: is you know, always good to think fin him and
Speaker 6: see vitam and d uh. I would ban all members
Speaker 6: from family members from running for office for public office.
Speaker 6: M Okay, well, I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Speaker 6: Family members of the people that are already in office
Speaker 6: maybe you're banning nepotism. It's like a paymaster told me
Speaker 6: one hundred years ago, if you were getting more than
Speaker 6: one check from Uncle Sam, you can bet your breaking line. Well,
Speaker 6: I know where I live, like, there's double and triple
Speaker 6: dippers out here, and and survival the richest. I think
Speaker 6: I've talked about it's a notable triple dipper, maybe a
Speaker 6: quadruple dipper. But this guy wasn't, you know, he wasn't
Speaker 6: that he wasn't He said, no, I'm fine. He didn't
Speaker 6: feel one paying a guilt. But around here, especially in
Speaker 6: the area I live in northern Virginia outside of d C,
Speaker 6: where so many government workers. Look, you have so many
Speaker 6: retired military or retired cops or retired firefighters go in
Speaker 6: and get other government jobs. You get so many double
Speaker 6: differs out here. It's it's ridiculous, so much money here.
Speaker 6: Uh stuck with the D three D three. Anybody over
Speaker 6: forty and a man, I think you should Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: t uh Vitamin D three. I take it every day.
Speaker 6: It's definitely, it's it's a it's a wonder I don't have.
Speaker 6: You know, used to sometimes get a little twinges on
Speaker 6: my knees. My arm I work out, but uh no,
Speaker 6: I don't know. So it's it's I you know, DC
Speaker 6: is really D three is really good for that. Uh
Speaker 6: So anyway, I get just to keep on the uh
Speaker 6: the Trump thing. So you know, if you're literally it's
Speaker 6: I have an unusual view of trumpet I realized that
Speaker 6: most people don't, and uh we try. I call the
Speaker 6: trump agnostics the smallest minority group in the country. John Barber,
Speaker 6: who coined the RICE, used to be one, but I
Speaker 6: don't think he is anymore. I would, if I may
Speaker 6: humbly suggest, but very very few people are. And it's
Speaker 6: I get so angry because of course I get angry,
Speaker 6: but I've called a Trump supporter. And but you know,
Speaker 6: when I look at people and good people, so many
Speaker 6: good people who have let this Trump arrangement center there on.
Speaker 3: Is a real thing.
Speaker 6: But I coined a term for the other side. I
Speaker 6: think there's a Trump enablement syndrome, which is also a
Speaker 6: real thing. But the people that, hey Trump, they've gotten
Speaker 6: to the point now where as all you have to
Speaker 6: do is a bad mouth Trump. And boy that took
Speaker 6: courage to bad mouth Trump. And you know, left, isn't it.
Speaker 6: Uh So people like George W. Bush, you know who
Speaker 6: our world used to hate. I mean, this is the
Speaker 6: weapons of mass destruction. This is a great decider, you know,
Speaker 6: this is uh, you know, until Trump came along, the
Speaker 6: most inarticular president we'd never had. They're an idiot, you know,
Speaker 6: talk about an advertising for nepotism. You know, you really
Speaker 6: think he would have gotten to Yale if his if
Speaker 6: he wasn't you know, a Bush. But uh, he started
Speaker 6: bad mouthing Trump. And so now I've heard lots of
Speaker 6: people on the left George.
Speaker 3: Bush is not too bad. You know, No, he's not
Speaker 3: good at all.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 3: Once can't get Yeah, well that that was like for
Speaker 3: me once.
Speaker 6: Uh uh when we yeah he fooled again, it's like,
Speaker 6: yeah he was Uh he was amazing.
Speaker 3: Are are uh is our kids learning? That was another
Speaker 3: great one.
Speaker 6: I mean, just uh chestnuts. I mean, and Trump's a
Speaker 6: little bit different because Trump's were Trump's from more again,
Speaker 6: I think orchestrated because I I you know, Trump was
Speaker 6: like you know, repeating almost like it was a hypnotic
Speaker 6: thing where he would literally say the same thing like
Speaker 6: five times.
Speaker 3: In a row, and and I was like, what, you know,
Speaker 3: what are you doing?
Speaker 6: It's just it's it's very very it was very hard
Speaker 6: to listen to him talk.
Speaker 3: But again, he had the hypnotic effect.
Speaker 6: And again people that and that's the side you're dealing
Speaker 6: with when you're talking about people being awake. The side
Speaker 6: that hates Trump, very very few of them are awake.
Speaker 6: I mean there's some, but because again it's you know, say,
Speaker 6: I guess you could say, I mean, I'm criticized Trump
Speaker 6: like I hate.
Speaker 3: Him, but I don't.
Speaker 6: I just don't think he's I think he did less
Speaker 6: damage politically. Now, he certainly toward the country apartment. I
Speaker 6: think that was his assignment, and I think he certainly
Speaker 6: uh lowered the discourse. But the other side helped as well.
Speaker 6: But he certainly lowered down and made it an idiocracy.
Speaker 6: But in terms of what he did, I just don't think.
Speaker 6: I feel like he did nothing betweet. So in some
Speaker 6: respects he was an obnoxious Calvin Coolidge, you know, Calvin
Speaker 6: Cooley is one of our greater presidents because he didn't
Speaker 6: do anything.
Speaker 3: You know, these guys when they act, tend to do.
Speaker 6: Stuff that doesn't benefit the people, tends to give them
Speaker 6: more power and take away rights tross. So you know,
Speaker 6: very few active as presidents that have you know that
Speaker 6: you know that have done any good at all. And
Speaker 6: that's why I think what made Kennedy so different is
Speaker 6: Kennedy did was attempting.
Speaker 3: To do some good things for the people.
Speaker 6: And since that time, I don't know no other president
Speaker 6: my lifetime has tried to do.
Speaker 3: I don't anything good. I mean, where there's so few things.
Speaker 6: I guess, you know, Jimmy Carter granting amnesty to the
Speaker 6: draft Dodgers. Okay, that was good. I guess I supported that.
Speaker 6: I don't think he did anything else good really, and
Speaker 6: he was in office. Reagan nothing, you know, Bush Clinton
Speaker 6: nothing nothing, nothing, I mean, the only, the only, the
Speaker 6: only thing Trump Obama. On his way out of office,
Speaker 6: he uh, he did do one good thing and that
Speaker 6: was he commuted the rest of Bradley Chelsea Manning's absolutely
Speaker 6: absurd sentence. It was like thirty five years or something
Speaker 6: for exposing the horrible conduct of US troops in Iraq
Speaker 6: and Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: So he did do that. I'll give him that. That
Speaker 3: was one good thing he did.
Speaker 6: On the way out, Jay says, see you later, Okay,
Speaker 6: thank you, Jay, thanks for participating. Carter kind of wanted to, well,
Speaker 6: you know, Carter's another one looks really great in retrospect.
Speaker 6: But you know again I was that was when I
Speaker 6: my first vote was for Jimmy Carter. I was a
Speaker 6: starry eyed, very far left Democrat, but he was like
Speaker 6: my least. I mean, I loved all the I was
Speaker 6: hoping ted Teddy would run, but I liked you know,
Speaker 6: you doll and Fred Harris.
Speaker 3: I liked all the other candidates that you're better than him,
Speaker 3: because I already knew he was.
Speaker 6: Being pushed by this Trilateral Commission, and he wasn't talking
Speaker 6: about John Barber says he talked about the jfk assassination.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I never heard that, but it really
Speaker 6: infuriated me because that was when I was at my
Speaker 6: most active as stage. I was a volunteer with Mark
Speaker 6: Lane's group Citizens Submitted Inquiry, and you know, this is
Speaker 6: when it was in the news.
Speaker 3: So if he had said something, it would have been great.
Speaker 6: But even though his sister, Ruth Carter Stapleton was a
Speaker 6: real activist, she was really involved in the jfk assassination stuff,
Speaker 6: uh CFR people all through a Stansfield Turner and Cyia
Speaker 6: yep h w. Bush did American with Disabilities Act. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: Ford was a Warren Commission member than yes he was. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he's uh exactly, And so it was it was an
Speaker 6: easy vote for me. So I was going to vote
Speaker 6: for again I thought the Democrats were the good guys.
Speaker 6: Then I certainly would have voted for any Democrat over Ford.
Speaker 6: I couldn't vote for a Warren Commission member. But Uh
Speaker 6: and Jimmy Carter had some populist elements, again symbolically, but
Speaker 6: it was symbolically like you know, the uh walking at
Speaker 6: his inauguration I think was a nice touch.
Speaker 3: Going back to Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 6: Uh stopped playing Hale to the chief, the fireside chats.
Speaker 6: I mean it was, you know, wearing a sweater. I mean,
Speaker 6: these are he was trying to be more like the people.
Speaker 6: But and you know, basically he had probably the best
Speaker 6: foreign policy of any president since JFK because he actually
Speaker 6: was trying to get peace in the Middle East and
Speaker 6: he didn't provoke any foreign wars. So and it was
Speaker 6: the last gasp of foreign policy before the neokons took
Speaker 6: over under Reagan. Also, I also divested himself with peanut
Speaker 6: business for taking ops.
Speaker 3: I did not know that. I did not know that, but.
Speaker 6: Just at a personal level, I was disappointed that he
Speaker 6: didn't make some speeches about because he said he liked JFK.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 6: When Ted Kennedy ran against him in nineteen eighty, which
Speaker 6: I still have never understood that because it was, you know,
Speaker 6: after the horse had left the barn. It was way
Speaker 6: too late. It was a wrong time to run to
Speaker 6: challenge a sitting president. I still don't know why he
Speaker 6: decided that. But Kenny O'Donnell died, you know, very timely fashioned.
Speaker 6: He was the power that ran those great candy campaign,
Speaker 6: so he wasn't there to do it.
Speaker 3: Steve Smith and others.
Speaker 6: Weren't up to it, and uh, it was a horrible campaign.
Speaker 6: The media sand bagged him from the very beginning. Roger
Speaker 6: Mudd suddenly, after not talking about chap equitting for all
Speaker 6: those years, they suddenly made it front and center. And
Speaker 6: Jimmy Carter very famous. Jimmy Carter treated Ted Kennedy. You
Speaker 6: didn't treat him nicely. And I remember he said, you know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not gonna I'm not gonna talk about Jimmy.
Speaker 6: He kept saying, obert Obergain, I'm not going to raise
Speaker 6: Chappaquinick as an issue, but he said it regularly though,
Speaker 6: so uh anyway, and polls before that, Roger mug sandbagging
Speaker 6: polls had ted Kennedy way ahead of Carter. But uh
Speaker 6: so that was that was really the last I mean,
Speaker 6: the last Democrats that I liked were you know, I
Speaker 6: love Dennis Cassinich. I thought he was very good, but
Speaker 6: you know, he got one percent in all the polls,
Speaker 6: and they quickly drummed him out of the packet candidates
Speaker 6: whenever it was he ran. And of course Cynthiy McKinney,
Speaker 6: who was another one of somebody I've admired very much
Speaker 6: and has written good stuff about my work.
Speaker 3: I hope love to have her.
Speaker 6: On the show sometimes. She is a firecracker, my favorite politician.
Speaker 6: But there aren't any others like that. I mean, there
Speaker 6: are no more, you know, Democrats like James traffickand who
Speaker 6: they censured and got out of Congress because he was
Speaker 6: a real rebel. They don't have Marcie Captors anymore. There
Speaker 6: used to be some good Democrats. I don't know that
Speaker 6: there are any good Democrats now. Never forget the hostage
Speaker 6: christ at that time too, absolutely, and that that was
Speaker 6: you know again October Surprise. I mean I wrote about
Speaker 6: that hint history and it gets you know, kind of
Speaker 6: and that's all tied into you know, these things are
Speaker 6: are all tied together because that kind of got melded
Speaker 6: together with the Contras and all that and and in the.
Speaker 3: The Reagan administration. But did anything happen there, No, I
Speaker 3: mean there's you know, there's people people, I mean, they
Speaker 3: didn't buy it.
Speaker 6: But again they by that time they made that's what
Speaker 6: they really made liberal into.
Speaker 3: A dirty word. You couldn't say you were liberaling.
Speaker 6: Reagan came in and he played on the fact that
Speaker 6: big government had been bad for so long, so the
Speaker 6: people were ripe for it. And of course, but again
Speaker 6: what Reagan liked, Trump had a record that was completely
Speaker 6: different from his rhetoric and he didn't even cut a
Speaker 6: single sub agency of government the entire time he was
Speaker 6: in office. So but unfortunately that was the last gasp
Speaker 6: so called liberals, and uh so, you know, we it
Speaker 6: was natural for me to drift off into uh the
Speaker 6: waters of extremism because they you know, there's you don't
Speaker 6: know Kennedy's I mean, they.
Speaker 3: Like right now, I would be I'd be right. I
Speaker 3: don't know that Robert F.
Speaker 6: Kennedy Junior would run as a Democratic, but you know,
Speaker 6: unfortunately he's doing great work. I think he's the closest
Speaker 6: thing we have to somebody that might give us some hope.
Speaker 6: But he has that uh spasmodia whatever that that genetic
Speaker 6: thing is that Rose Kennedy had where he could not
Speaker 6: he just his voice doesn't sound strong enough.
Speaker 3: Comment.
Speaker 6: Democratic Party died with RFK. Yeah, I can very very
Speaker 6: much see that cheese, butter, and crack, the three main
Speaker 6: ingredients of the Reagan air, with a dash of granite. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and don't foret catchup was a vegetable. Remember that a
Speaker 6: lot of great things with Reagan. But but again, Reagan,
Speaker 6: just like you know, the left is diluted on so
Speaker 6: many things, the woke left, the right is dialuted about Reagan,
Speaker 6: and they have managed to convert him into his record
Speaker 6: into something entirely different than what it was. And again,
Speaker 6: if you look back at so many the more I
Speaker 6: you know, examined, so many bad things happened under Reagan,
Speaker 6: not only the side of Jelemans too, not only the
Speaker 6: uh where you really started to see because this disparity
Speaker 6: of wealth and that was with Reagan's absurd tax cut
Speaker 6: and the only touch the taxes of the top earners.
Speaker 6: The top tax rate I believe was seventy two p
Speaker 6: when Reagan and their office he slashed it eventually down
Speaker 6: to twenty eight percent, and he raised the income tax
Speaker 6: taxes of the very lowest or so, I mean, that's
Speaker 6: a that's a strange thing, but that was you know,
Speaker 6: that was trickled down and it obviously didn't worry well,
Speaker 6: it worked for some people worked for the top people.
Speaker 6: The term CEOs were created under Reagan. That was a
Speaker 6: term that was unknown before then. And you saw this
Speaker 6: massive disparity of wealth. And again they demonized liberals and
Speaker 6: the left never recovered. All the left is in charge
Speaker 6: now it's the woke left. Those liberals never recovered. So,
Speaker 6: you know, being for peace and caring about people's rights
Speaker 6: is considered wimpy. And that's unfortunate because and it goes
Speaker 6: back to the boleiocracy thing coming full circle, where Americans
Speaker 6: don't value the character traits of kindness and empathy and sensitivity, gentleness,
Speaker 6: those are all considered weak. And as long as that happens,
Speaker 6: bullies are going to rule. And so that's why the
Speaker 6: Left was built on some of those characteristics, just you know,
Speaker 6: empathy for people, you care about the poor, you care
Speaker 6: about you know, people that are imprisoned unjustly or you know,
Speaker 6: cruel and unusual punishment. You care about the victims of
Speaker 6: war and about civil rights, civil liberties. But the left
Speaker 6: today doesn't care about that. We know that they're all
Speaker 6: about just calling names and trying to divide. And certainly
Speaker 6: with Trump, we are more divided than ever, and now
Speaker 6: with this COVID that has finished the job, we are
Speaker 6: absolutely divided. So when Lincoln say, house divided against itself
Speaker 6: cannot stand, we're divided against ourselves like never before. Whether
Speaker 6: we can stand, I don't know. But at some point
Speaker 6: we have to start fighting back. But any rate, music's
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