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Speaker 1: Three three, seveone three eight two five five the number
Speaker 1: techs d an five seven seven three nine. Where to start?
Speaker 1: I think we have to start with Michael Bennett because
Speaker 1: there's finally some interest in the Colorado governor's race because.
Speaker 2: It looks like Michael Bennett's going to be the nominee.
Speaker 1: So I think people are starting to see what I've
Speaker 1: been saying for a while is true, that there is
Speaker 1: a real chance for a high quality GOP candidate with
Speaker 1: a great campaign, things break the right way, et cetera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think anybody paying attention sees that as tough
Speaker 1: a nut as Colorado is to crack, is tall a
Speaker 1: hill as it is to climb, well, let's call it
Speaker 1: a mountain. Then at that point, hey, Michael Bennett, Michael
Speaker 1: Bennett gives you a chance and love the way the
Speaker 1: Denver Post came out and I respect the Post for it,
Speaker 1: and went after Michael Bennett for the same thing that
Speaker 1: I was going after him for the other day on
Speaker 1: air when he announced, which is, well, there are a
Speaker 1: few things, but in.
Speaker 2: Common we have a second.
Speaker 1: Bennett says he's going to keep his US Senate seat
Speaker 1: while running for governor, which is a beautiful thing, right,
Speaker 1: because if you're the GOP nominee and you want to
Speaker 1: beat Michael Bennett, that is like manna from heaven. Talk
Speaker 1: about the ultimate East Coast arrogant elitist. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You peons in Colorado. You elected me to go to
Speaker 1: the Senate, and you think I'm going to give that.
Speaker 2: Up while they run for governor. Well, I haven't been
Speaker 2: doing anything for you.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so why should I give that up while I
Speaker 1: run for governor?
Speaker 2: And then the big play.
Speaker 1: Behind all that that he wants to be able to
Speaker 1: appoint his own success or. So the Post really went
Speaker 1: after him on that as well, And I thought the
Speaker 1: way I read the superb Post editorial, I thought they
Speaker 1: were hinting at the possibility of criminality. Now they didn't
Speaker 1: use that word. This is just my optimistic read of
Speaker 1: their House editorial. But wait a second, didn't Ryan we
Speaker 1: had a guy right down the road, right down Hampton.
Speaker 1: We're broadcasting from our Denver Tech Center studios today.
Speaker 2: Right down Hampton.
Speaker 1: We had a guy incarcerated at the federal pen down
Speaker 1: there who used to be the governor of Illinois, right
Speaker 1: riding high at all that.
Speaker 2: Hair, right broad Blogoevitch.
Speaker 1: And then what happened, Well, there was a senator left,
Speaker 1: so he had sent Barack Obama. Some people have heard
Speaker 1: of him, so he had a Senate seat he got
Speaker 1: to make an appointment to and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing for a family show. This thing's really valuable.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving it away for free. And so then
Speaker 1: he ends up in jail for that. Well, if Michael
Speaker 1: Bennett is actively using, actively using the implied suggestion, promise, etc.
Speaker 1: That wink wink not not, he may he may appoint
Speaker 1: you over here, Joe A Goose to the US Senate
Speaker 1: seed if you back me, I'm not saying there's been
Speaker 1: that conversation or that implication or anything purely hypothetical, purely hypothetical.
Speaker 1: If Michael Bennett or the Bennett minions are sending the message, Hey,
Speaker 1: Joe a goose, playball beck me, come stand behind me
Speaker 1: at City Park, and you may end up with that
Speaker 1: US Senate appointment, and it'll be a good long stretch
Speaker 1: that you'll be in that US Senate seat. And well,
Speaker 1: it seems to me that you know, if an I underline,
Speaker 1: if I don't know that anything like that has occurred,
Speaker 1: but if it occurs, seems a lot more likely that
Speaker 1: Joe no goose is going to get into line and
Speaker 1: everybody else out there who would hope to get that
Speaker 1: Senate appointment, which which, as I think the post points
Speaker 1: out in its own way, helps Michael Bennett keep people
Speaker 1: in line and peel people off, feel wiser, and the
Speaker 1: whole thing stinks to high Heaven, which I love because
Speaker 1: it gives the GOP nominee a better chance.
Speaker 3: This is such a.
Speaker 4: Great perspective, Dan, I'm glad you brought it up, and
Speaker 4: I'm glad that you made the Blago comparison, because there's
Speaker 4: the appearance of impropriety. It's certainly open to that type
Speaker 4: of corruption that you're talking about, and there's the conflict
Speaker 4: of interest that's inherent in this you and I had
Speaker 4: discussed this where I kind of popped off like it
Speaker 4: was a theory, and then you push back rightfully so
Speaker 4: by saying, look, Garrett Poulis, before he leaves office, might
Speaker 4: appoint the Senate replacement for Bennett should Bennett win, But
Speaker 4: that defeats the whole purpose for Bennett having that kind
Speaker 4: of power, that cudgel, if you will, politically, that if
Speaker 4: he were to remain in the Senate seat, which right
Speaker 4: out of the gate is you don't think you're gonna win,
Speaker 4: Why why don't you just run and abandon the seat?
Speaker 3: Now he's not doing that.
Speaker 4: But the only explanation, Dan, is what you're saying, what
Speaker 4: the Denver Post is saying, is that he wants to
Speaker 4: hold on that Senate seat because it's a carrot, because
Speaker 4: Jonah Goose won't run against him, because he can have
Speaker 4: like a playoff to decide who gets to take the
Speaker 4: Senate seat that he would be vacating for the Governor's chair.
Speaker 4: This has it stinks, like you said, Yeah, And as
Speaker 4: the Post says, impertinent part as they like to say,
Speaker 4: Bennett must send a clear message to Colorados that he's
Speaker 4: in it to win it, and that he won't play
Speaker 4: political games with this vacant seat.
Speaker 1: We are certain the power to appoint his successor would
Speaker 1: sideline some Democrats on a short list for the appointment
Speaker 1: who would otherwise be tempted to back Wiser. That alone
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a fair fight. See, that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1: I think the Post from the beginning has been supportive
Speaker 1: of the Wiser candidacy, and I think that's probably why
Speaker 1: they're doing this.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: You'd want to do this anyway, right, even if they
Speaker 1: didn't support Wiser. You would want to do this because, first,
Speaker 1: I've got to believe the Post obviously wants the Democrat
Speaker 1: to win, and Bennett acting so obviously that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Give him a little credit for this, would you. He
Speaker 1: is not hiding his elitism, his entitlement, his arrogance. He's
Speaker 1: making no effort to hide it.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: He is right up front with it.
Speaker 3: He isn't even.
Speaker 1: Pretending, you know, to play friend of the regular guy
Speaker 1: or anything like that. He's just coming right out and saying,
Speaker 1: I'm going to win this seat, and so I'm holding
Speaker 1: onto the Senate seat. I don't care what anybody thinks,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't care that the people of Colorado
Speaker 1: want a full time senator. I'm going to win this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm holding on to all of this double middle finger.
Speaker 1: So give him a little bit of credit for being
Speaker 1: right up.
Speaker 2: Front with it.
Speaker 1: But what a gift, What a gift by revealing himself, right,
Speaker 1: What a gift to whoever that GOP nominee is, because
Speaker 1: it gives you a much better chance to win than
Speaker 1: would otherwise be there, because you know, this is the
Speaker 1: sort of thing that cuts through the noise. Right, if
Speaker 1: you talk about the typical talking points, those aren't moving anybody.
Speaker 2: Those are not moving anybody.
Speaker 1: So if we end up with the GOP nominee who's
Speaker 1: doing the typical talking point.
Speaker 2: Thing, we'll just pack it in. That race is over.
Speaker 2: But you need the stuff that cuts through the noise.
Speaker 1: And this kind of open, blatant, in your face, arrogant
Speaker 1: entitlement from Bennett, especially with this background, you know, the
Speaker 1: whole East Coast blue blood thing. Yeah, that's the kind
Speaker 1: of thing that can cut through the noise. The other
Speaker 1: thing Ryan, that I think really helps that the GOP
Speaker 1: on this and helps.
Speaker 2: Open the eyes of all Coloradin's is listen.
Speaker 1: Arrogance is always a bad look, right, We've all fallen
Speaker 1: victim to it at some point. It's always a bad look.
Speaker 1: But undeserved arrogance, there's a better word for it.
Speaker 2: Let's say, well go with that for now.
Speaker 1: What is Michael Bennett ever done, ever done to make
Speaker 1: him think he can get away with this kind of arrogance?
Speaker 2: Listen, if if.
Speaker 1: You had Tiger Woods or something, Yeah, Tiger Woods, he
Speaker 1: just won his twenty third major or whatever, and he
Speaker 1: makes a mistake of getting a little arrogant. It's still
Speaker 1: a bad look, but at least you can say it's
Speaker 1: Tiger Blanket Woods. He's just won his twenty third major.
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett. Nobody has ever done less with more?
Speaker 2: The door's open, who's going to walk through? You're on
Speaker 2: the Dan Kepla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Jagger was a good singer, right, he had some other
Speaker 1: issues because Kylie Simon wrote that about Mick Jagger.
Speaker 4: Right, Wow, there's a lot of rumors, and that it
Speaker 4: was actually maybe about two different people. David Geffen, that's
Speaker 4: the one that flew his private judge sy the total
Speaker 4: eclipse of the Sun.
Speaker 3: But then, of course Warren Batty, who.
Speaker 2: Was all I thought it was a Mick Jagget. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's singing in the song with her. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: maybe that's where I got the idea. But the point
Speaker 1: being if you just joined is Ryan played that because
Speaker 1: of Michael Bennett, because this is one of the funniest
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen in my life. We have had arguably,
Speaker 1: and i'd ask your take on this. You can call
Speaker 1: us through a three someone three eight two five five
Speaker 1: text DA and five seven seven three nine. Is this
Speaker 1: the single most blatant display of political arrogance in the
Speaker 1: history of the state of Colorado. Michael Bennett saying he's
Speaker 1: going to stay in the Senate seat while he runs
Speaker 1: for governor.
Speaker 2: And he's going to appoint his successor. Even the Denver
Speaker 2: Post came.
Speaker 1: Out and slammed him for it. So that's why Ryan
Speaker 1: played that song. But again, arrogance never a good look.
Speaker 1: But whoever that song was written about, at least they'd
Speaker 1: accomplish something. And this is not meant as a pejorative.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a good father, a good husband, a
Speaker 1: nice person in his lane, but he is the least
Speaker 1: accomplished person in high office probably in Colorado history. Nobody
Speaker 1: has ever done less with more so to get this
Speaker 1: kind of arrogance from him. Is it's just fun. It's
Speaker 1: great for the Republicans. It's tremendous entertainment, and it's probably
Speaker 1: exactly what we needed to get somebody interested in this
Speaker 1: governor's race. Let's go to the phone lines. We'll start
Speaker 1: with Dean in ar Veda. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, Dan, thank you.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 5: If you don't run for governor, I don't think we
Speaker 5: can win.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's so nice you to say. I would
Speaker 2: respectfully disagree, but it's so nice of you to say.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: And then the last thing I want to say, I
Speaker 5: know you're really fast on time. Is then allowed to
Speaker 5: do all these things like appoint his own successor and
Speaker 5: stay in office? I mean, is there there's no rules?
Speaker 2: I guess you just rule right, there's no rule.
Speaker 1: I mean that the people, the people can say no,
Speaker 1: that the people are the only limit on them.
Speaker 2: If this is his big and title, Trene, what's the
Speaker 2: chance of you running for governor? You know, that's a
Speaker 2: fair question that I'd rather not answer right now.
Speaker 3: Is that is that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: D okay?
Speaker 5: That's fine?
Speaker 3: Yah?
Speaker 1: I was you answer, oh no, no, no, no, just listen
Speaker 1: this this I will guarantee you. Okay, this, I will
Speaker 1: guarantee you. I will never tease about this. And number two,
Speaker 1: if I do end up running for this or any
Speaker 1: other office, what you're going to get from me, It's
Speaker 1: going to be a campaign like you've never seen before.
Speaker 1: It is going to be brutal. It is going to
Speaker 1: be brutal honesty. It is going to be direct, no
Speaker 1: political games. So a question like that, the question like
Speaker 1: that is is a kind of question you will get
Speaker 1: an absolute direct answer to. The only reason I don't
Speaker 1: give it to you now is, as you might imagine,
Speaker 1: right for anybody, there are a lot of different family
Speaker 1: conversations and pieces and everything else, and I I just
Speaker 1: don't want to say any thing publicly until everything's addressed
Speaker 1: with folks.
Speaker 2: You know, in the family.
Speaker 5: You're still working on the cyberbe's truck, right, oh.
Speaker 2: My lord?
Speaker 1: And and I will promise you this if and underlying if,
Speaker 1: because it's a big if.
Speaker 2: If I get into a race, that's my campaign car.
Speaker 1: I mean you will have just think think of all
Speaker 1: the billboard space on a cyber truck.
Speaker 2: You know, absolutely, I've had a TAO for a lot.
Speaker 1: Of years, this and that, but it doesn't have as
Speaker 1: much billboard space.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dean, Hey appreciate the call. There.
Speaker 1: Listen, here's what we know right the Republican Party now,
Speaker 1: especially since it looks like Michael Bennett's going to be
Speaker 1: the nominee of the Democrats and he's started out in
Speaker 1: such a terrific way for the GOP, the GOP is
Speaker 1: going to have a lot of good candidates. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a really interesting race that way, because you're
Speaker 1: going to have a lot of talented people in this
Speaker 1: governor's race on the GOP side, and so that's kind
Speaker 1: of fun to watch because then the nominee may win
Speaker 1: with what do you think, Ryan, the nominee if if
Speaker 1: I'm right, and you're gonna have at least five really
Speaker 1: high quality, respectable, accomplished GOP candidates in that primary, and
Speaker 1: then you'll probably have another five good people who just aren't,
Speaker 1: you know, as maybe high profile, but anybody could win
Speaker 1: because I think in the end, your GOP nominee might
Speaker 1: get twenty percent of the vote with that many good
Speaker 1: candidates twenty five percent of the votes. So it creates
Speaker 1: it creates a really cool dynamic. Right, Because you've got
Speaker 1: that going, you got that possibility, But then you'll also
Speaker 1: have more attention on the GOP and more interesting. Then
Speaker 1: comes a big challenge, right Ryan, have you ever been
Speaker 1: part of a circular firing squad?
Speaker 4: I mean, not willingly, not what I wanted to be,
Speaker 4: but yeah, sometimes in some ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, yeah, because that's going to be the big
Speaker 1: challenge for the GOP because it's going to have a
Speaker 1: bunch of good people in that primary, and then somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna win, and they're going to win without.
Speaker 2: Fifty percent of the vote.
Speaker 1: They may win without thirty percent of the vote, and
Speaker 1: then the challenge for the GOP is going to be
Speaker 1: can they unite around that nominee?
Speaker 2: Because look at the math.
Speaker 1: If the GOP doesn't unite around that nominee, there is
Speaker 1: no chance. If the GOP learns the lessons of the
Speaker 1: past and unites around the nominee, then you're at least
Speaker 1: in the game. Three or three seven three eight two
Speaker 1: five five the number text d an five seven seven three.
Speaker 2: Now, so it's getting good. It's getting fun now in Colorado,
Speaker 2: where I think everybody's.
Speaker 1: Starting to see what I've been saying for a while, yeah,
Speaker 1: the GOP they've got a shot here, and not a
Speaker 1: dumb and dumber shot.
Speaker 2: Do we have that in our button bar? How does
Speaker 2: that go again? So you're saying I have a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And that just proves to you that our
Speaker 1: marriage was meant to be and it was destined to succeed,
Speaker 1: because that was the first I think that was the
Speaker 1: first movie I ever took Amy two bold movement. We're
Speaker 1: dating dumb and dumber and you took her to a
Speaker 1: sporting event, right, Well, I think it was the second
Speaker 1: time we went that really tested the relationship because I
Speaker 1: saw that movie twice.
Speaker 2: I love that movie. I love that movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: First date was c U c SU game, all right,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Second date two days later because it was a Monday
Speaker 1: night game Broncos Raiders. Third date was a presidential debate,
Speaker 1: which I think was maybe the next night.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: So if she saw me for a fourth time, you
Speaker 1: knew there was you knew I had a chance.
Speaker 4: Well, all of that combined with Dumb and Dumber Dan,
Speaker 4: this a whole bunch of guy oriented stuff for the
Speaker 4: most part, I mean, largely, with the exception maybe.
Speaker 1: She's a big she's a big football That's why she's
Speaker 1: she really is. She's a big football fan. Well it's
Speaker 1: not the only reason, it's one, but but now she
Speaker 1: is a Yeah, maybe I'll put that on my next
Speaker 1: gift tour, but she might take it the wrong way.
Speaker 3: Careful how you play that?
Speaker 2: You know the other thing?
Speaker 1: And we have Greg Lopez coming up, right, We did
Speaker 1: four six Greg's officially and the governors.
Speaker 2: I see what I mean.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of good people in that
Speaker 1: governor's race on the GOP side. But you know what
Speaker 1: really convinced me that this was meant to be was
Speaker 1: I had just come off a long trial, so you
Speaker 1: know how it isn't during trial. Yeah, you may be
Speaker 1: getting an hour or two of sleep a night, just
Speaker 1: come off a long trial. We have our first date
Speaker 1: c UCSU game. We're sitting there afterwards watching the Skins game.
Speaker 1: I think I can't remember we're watching some kind of
Speaker 1: golf tournament. Unfortunately I dozed off. Not a great look
Speaker 1: on the first date, right, at least not before the
Speaker 1: sun goes down. But hey, she saw she saw the
Speaker 1: real me underneath everything else whatever it was, Thank goodness,
Speaker 1: she stayed. Hey when we come back, Greg Lopez. He
Speaker 1: is in the governor's race. We'll talk to Greg next.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Boy, just have to love President Trump, right, just all
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Speaker 1: Just before this show starts, he's going to be soon
Speaker 1: offering a cash stipend and a plane ticket to everybody
Speaker 1: whose self deports. That is going to be fascinating to watch. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's go the VIP line. Greg Lopez kind enough to
Speaker 1: join us after a successful stint in the US Congress,
Speaker 1: has now entered the race for governor in this great
Speaker 1: state of Colorado. Greg, welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 6: Hey, Dan, it's great to be on your show again.
Speaker 6: And you know what, you're absolutely correct about Senator Michael Bennett.
Speaker 6: I mean talk about, you know, really opening the door
Speaker 6: for us, you know, because if he is going to
Speaker 6: be their lead candidate, I welcome that all day home.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it sure looks to me as if
Speaker 1: he's going to be right. I mean, to me, he
Speaker 1: doesn't get in this race unless it's wired. And you know,
Speaker 1: he had No Goose behind him at Crow, but that's
Speaker 1: relatively meaningless. No Goose was the big one, right, because
Speaker 1: I think if if No Goose was the DEM nominee,
Speaker 1: he would be the toughest of the whole crew to beat.
Speaker 2: I think Bennett probably the easiest.
Speaker 1: Maybe Diamond Mike Johnston from Denver, but Bennett a close second.
Speaker 1: Any of them are going to be tough though, right,
Speaker 1: just given the numbers in Colorado. But what a gift
Speaker 1: Bennett's given right out of the gate.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and when you say he is an elitist,
Speaker 6: that is a band, you know, and people are starting
Speaker 6: to see it. I mean I remember when he was
Speaker 6: the superintendent of Denver Public Schools, you know, and how
Speaker 6: that hall went down with then Mayor Hickelooper and that
Speaker 6: whole thing. So yeah, you're spot on.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, Greg lopezarkchiss.
Speaker 1: What's so interesting to me about that is, Listen, he's
Speaker 1: got that elitist label baggage that he has to deal with,
Speaker 1: because I mean, he have that silver spoon East Coast DC.
Speaker 2: Upbringing right now.
Speaker 1: I bet you and I have both known plenty of
Speaker 1: people who had that kind of upbringing and just turned
Speaker 1: into two great, generous, regular everyday people. But then you
Speaker 1: have other people who have that upbringing and they say
Speaker 1: stay snobs their whole life. So he knows he has
Speaker 1: that baggage, and he decides to come out of the.
Speaker 2: Gate with this this king.
Speaker 1: Move that he's not going to give up the Senate
Speaker 1: seat and he's going to appoint his successor. You know,
Speaker 1: talk about a double middle finger. If the guy had
Speaker 1: three arms, it would have been a triple middle finger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally agree with you. You know, and as you
Speaker 6: can feel it and you're saying it, Look, the winds
Speaker 6: are shifting in Colorado. The voters are really looking at
Speaker 6: what happened to them over the last eight years, what
Speaker 6: happened with a single party run here in Colorado. And
Speaker 6: you know, you and I have talked of this before,
Speaker 6: but you know, here we are, Colorado has been turned
Speaker 6: into the ugly twin sister of California, with the high
Speaker 6: rise of housing criminal elements. When you name it, we're
Speaker 6: the ugly twin sister.
Speaker 1: Well, we're left to California now right, I mean California
Speaker 1: doesn't have this new licensing law for guns, this SB
Speaker 1: three that just passed. But Craig, as a former Democrat myself,
Speaker 1: I think the challenge right now for you and anybody
Speaker 1: else who's a candidate is Okay, you know that this
Speaker 1: craziness from Bennett and all the horrible things happen in
Speaker 1: the state are going to cause more people to open
Speaker 1: their eyes and to at least look at a Republican.
Speaker 1: But I remember when I was a Democrat, there was
Speaker 1: just such this negative stereotype of the GOP, And once
Speaker 1: I got into the GOP, I realized it was false.
Speaker 1: But until I got into the GOP, I thought it
Speaker 1: was true. So what do you do now, what do
Speaker 1: you use a candidate for governor do to make it
Speaker 1: clear to these folks who are maybe for the first
Speaker 1: time taking a look at a GOP candidate.
Speaker 2: What do you do to just defy that stereotype.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, you know, I do what I've
Speaker 6: been doing since twenty eighteen when I would go to
Speaker 6: the Democratic Dulmatoa forms because if we were all invited
Speaker 6: and I would go, and I would be sitting next
Speaker 6: to Polis and Donald Linn and Kerry Kennedy and my
Speaker 6: Dinnocent and I would be showing the narrative of who
Speaker 6: the Conservative Republican Party was, you know, and people are like,
Speaker 6: we had no idea that's what you guys stand for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good, exactly what.
Speaker 6: We stand for. And they're like, I would tell them,
Speaker 6: you know, you'd be careful because some of the questions
Speaker 6: you're answering it sounds like you're a Republican And they're like, really, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's exactly what we believe in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm.
Speaker 6: Just going to be out there talking to them and
Speaker 6: sharing that's really what they want to know. Can we
Speaker 6: connect with them now?
Speaker 2: That that is smart? That is smart?
Speaker 1: And now Greg Greg Lopez running for governor in the
Speaker 1: great state of Colorado.
Speaker 2: How can people learn more about you?
Speaker 6: You know, they can go to my website Greg Lopez
Speaker 6: dot co Greg Lopez dot co, you know, and you
Speaker 6: can go there learn a little bit more about me.
Speaker 6: But right now, what I'm wanting to do is make
Speaker 6: sure people understand that, you know, I'm going to be
Speaker 6: listening to everyone and I'm going to be the governor
Speaker 6: of everyone, regardless of whether they vote from me or not.
Speaker 6: And so I'm asking people to share with me what
Speaker 6: they believe the Colorado's dream is for them and their family,
Speaker 6: and what is the nightmares that they've been dealing with,
Speaker 6: what's keeping them from reaching that Colorado dream that everybody
Speaker 6: moved here to achieve. So, yeah, go to my website
Speaker 6: because our new mam our new tagline is people over Politics.
Speaker 6: We're going to make sure we focus on the quality
Speaker 6: of life everybody here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you I've enjoyed every minute I've
Speaker 1: spent around you. You're an extremely likable guy, and I
Speaker 1: think that people around the state who get to know
Speaker 1: you will feel the exact same way.
Speaker 2: So good luck out there, my friend, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 6: Hey, I appreciate it, Take care you.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 1: That is Greg Lopez running for governor THREEOT three someone
Speaker 1: three eight two five five texts d an five seven
Speaker 1: seven three nine. So we've got calls and text and
Speaker 1: all of that and we'll get to it. But now
Speaker 1: it's fun right because of the Bennett stuff, because people
Speaker 1: can say, wow, he's going to be their nominee, and
Speaker 1: even the Denver Post is pounding him his second day
Speaker 1: in the race. Yeah, Hey, this is going to be
Speaker 1: fun and Trump?
Speaker 2: What do you think about this? How much should he pay?
Speaker 2: I'd like to get your take on that.
Speaker 1: Da n five seven seven three nine three oh three
Speaker 1: someone three eight two five five. President Trump says going
Speaker 1: to be offering cash to people here illegally to cashing
Speaker 1: a plane ticket to leave the country and self deport.
Speaker 2: So how much should that payment be? Ryan?
Speaker 1: What do you think it take? What do you think
Speaker 1: that that would take? How much money? I know it's
Speaker 1: a different person to person, but generally speaking, would it
Speaker 1: take for what? Oh?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we would Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we'd love we'd love to have you on
Speaker 1: the show. I know, no, no, I I touched the
Speaker 1: first part. I got a million things to do. But
Speaker 1: how much you know? Trump has said that going to
Speaker 1: be paying folks here illegally to leave, give them a
Speaker 1: plane ticket and give him some cash. How much cash
Speaker 1: do you think it would take the typical person here
Speaker 1: illegally to get.
Speaker 2: Him to leave?
Speaker 3: Ten grand?
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. I love your take.
Speaker 1: If you happen to be here illegally, we would really
Speaker 1: like your take because you probably have a much better
Speaker 1: feel for this.
Speaker 2: But how much would it take? Plane ticket? In cash.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be offering that much
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 4: No, if you're asking, though, what it would take to
Speaker 4: convince somebody to you know, they're worth their trouble, uproot
Speaker 4: their lives, relocate back to where theyreated. You know, Tank
Speaker 4: Grant should do it. And you're right, probably not going
Speaker 4: to be that much. But if you're gonna seal the deal,
Speaker 4: I think that would be the number.
Speaker 1: Well, and the deal i'm sure will include if you
Speaker 1: come back after that, you're going to jail.
Speaker 2: Right, So you you think grand back you.
Speaker 1: Got, well, you got to and then some something worse
Speaker 1: you got that You're going to have that in the deal.
Speaker 1: It'll be fascinating just to see what the number and
Speaker 1: the whole comp package is for leaving. But obviously what
Speaker 1: makes this thing work, right, The only reason that's going
Speaker 1: to work is because there is now a real concern
Speaker 1: on the part of a lot of people here illegally
Speaker 1: that they are going to get deported. So the question is,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people may be thinking, do
Speaker 1: I wait around and get kicked out of the country
Speaker 1: without any money and without a plane ticket, or do
Speaker 1: I take this deal?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Kind of like the buyouts you see at a lot
Speaker 1: of corporations. Dan, your naive, says a Texter. If you
Speaker 1: think the GOP has a chance, we are in articulate
Speaker 1: candidates don't be candidates with tons of money and forty
Speaker 1: nine percent of the voters already in their pocket. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: it's not supposed to be easy, you know. Go go
Speaker 1: back and ask the founders. Go back, Alexander Hamilton. All
Speaker 1: the people have fought the Revolutionary War. It's not supposed
Speaker 1: to be easy. That's not how you make history. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I think the GOP is going to
Speaker 1: have multiple very articulate, qualified candidates in that race. Dan,
Speaker 1: She thought, the poor guy is exhausted, but he's still
Speaker 1: made time for me. That a Texter, thank you for
Speaker 1: the kindness behind that. Talking about how my first date
Speaker 1: with Amy I had just come off a trial. We
Speaker 1: went to see UCSU game, and then I fell asleep
Speaker 1: while we watched a golf tournament, and yet there was
Speaker 1: still a second date. So you're right she might have
Speaker 1: put that very positive spin on it. Alright, let's come
Speaker 1: back to our great text and calls, and how much
Speaker 1: do you think President Trump will need to offer people
Speaker 1: here illegally to leave along with the plane ticket.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Stephen Iland, I don't understand what the confusion is. This
Speaker 2: individual is a citizen of Osaviagor. He was illegally in
Speaker 2: the United States and was returned to this country.
Speaker 1: That's where you deport people back to their country of origin,
Speaker 1: except for Venezuela refusing to take people.
Speaker 2: Back in places like that. I can tell you this,
Speaker 2: mister President.
Speaker 1: No, the forign policy of the United States is conducted
Speaker 1: by the President of the United States, not by a court,
Speaker 1: and no court in the United States has a right
Speaker 1: to conduct a form policy of the United States?
Speaker 6: Is that sent it?
Speaker 2: Boy? Marco Rubio on a roll? He is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always thought he was great, but he's really
Speaker 1: grown in this job. So it has to gon to
Speaker 1: be a whale of a twenty eight primary, which starts
Speaker 1: when oh, yeah, like November fifth, right, So it's already on,
Speaker 1: but it will be out in the open obviously after
Speaker 1: the mid terms. Two or three seven three eight two
Speaker 1: five five takes d A n five seven seven three
Speaker 1: nine For the first time in a very long time,
Speaker 1: Colorado politics interesting for Republicans since Michael Bennett the presumptive
Speaker 1: nominee now and the very arrogant, stumbling.
Speaker 2: Move out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Even the Denver Post hammering m as Republicans thinking wow,
Speaker 1: we could really win this thing, And I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been telling you that for a while. So at
Speaker 1: least it is interesting now, and we have much more
Speaker 1: to talk about beyond that. But I want to get
Speaker 1: to some text on this President Trump on all this.
Speaker 1: But President Trump's saying he's going to be offering cash
Speaker 1: to folks here illegally, cash and a plane ticket to leave.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's a stick along with that carrot, right, because
Speaker 1: the threat is you may be thrown out with nothing anyway.
Speaker 1: But this says Dan, five thousand plus ticket to self
Speaker 1: deport now, careful vetting for permanent record, chance to apply
Speaker 1: for legal entry after five years, and repay the five thousand.
Speaker 1: Interesting texts, thank you. Do you think the deal will
Speaker 1: have those kind of terms? Ryan that, Hey, if you
Speaker 1: self deport now, then you've got a chance to get
Speaker 1: back in the right way, tex Dan only a plane
Speaker 1: ticket if they don't leave and get deported, they waive
Speaker 1: any future Well, the President's already said there's going to
Speaker 1: be some cash, But what's your guess as to the amount?
Speaker 1: Because the texture points out, Hey, Dan, ten thousand, that
Speaker 1: puts us somewhere in the five trillion dollar range just
Speaker 1: to get rid of five million illegal immigrants, right, and
Speaker 1: we know that isn't going to happen, right, So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think the President's can offer anywhere near that amount.
Speaker 1: Let's see, Danny should offer what the Democrats offered the
Speaker 1: victims in North Carolina seven hundred and fifty bucks, maybe
Speaker 1: one thousand, because he is a generous person. How'd that
Speaker 1: work out for the Democrats there in North Carolina?
Speaker 2: Right? I mean, wow, it's just it's.
Speaker 1: Remarkable how power corrupts, right, I mean, as you think
Speaker 1: about your own life right now, any of us.
Speaker 2: I think it's part of the human condition.
Speaker 1: If we think back on some moment when we had
Speaker 1: some kind of big power, some kind of ultimate power, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, large power, you can probably think of times
Speaker 1: that you really handled that great and did great things.
Speaker 1: And you can probably think of times where you know,
Speaker 1: what made me a little cocky and probably didn't handle
Speaker 1: that also. Well, I think that's just part of human nature.
Speaker 1: But clearly, and this is part of the circle of life. Right,
Speaker 1: You've got a guy like Bennett right now who is
Speaker 1: so obviously intoxicated with power, which is hilarious because the
Speaker 1: guy's accomplished nothing, right, and arrogance is never a good look.
Speaker 1: But you can look at some people on the left
Speaker 1: who are arrogant and you can say, yeah, not a
Speaker 1: good look, and their ideas are horrible, but they're really
Speaker 1: talented people, and you can see how maybe they got
Speaker 1: this distorted view a guy like Bennett who just isn't
Speaker 1: and hasn't done much well anything, really, Yeah, how does
Speaker 1: he ever get that?
Speaker 2: Arrogant? But drunk with power?
Speaker 1: Right, So drunk with power, he's out there today doubling down,
Speaker 1: defying the Denver posts and saying no, he's going to
Speaker 1: stay in the Senate during the campaign. End, he's going
Speaker 1: to appoint a success or when he wins. Just keep
Speaker 1: talking like that, Mike three or three? Someone three, two, five, five?
Speaker 1: The number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you had to bet your car.
Speaker 1: On how much President Trump is going to offer, what
Speaker 1: would that number be? For some reason, the number that
Speaker 1: just keeps popping into my mind is a thousand bucks
Speaker 1: in a plane ticket. I just think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Do you think the whole thing's a
Speaker 1: bad idea? Do you think it's gonna work? How many
Speaker 1: people do you think leave? How many people do you
Speaker 1: think will leave and then try to get back in?
Speaker 1: This is gonna be an amazing thing to watch. And uh, Dan,
Speaker 1: what do you think Mayor Mikey will do since his
Speaker 1: hopes of stepping up to the gov job and won't
Speaker 1: be happening anytime soon.
Speaker 2: That from our friend Alexa, And that is a good.
Speaker 1: Question, I mean, get more extreme because obviously he was
Speaker 1: out there doing these lunatic things, just trying to attract
Speaker 1: the attention of the big money on the left and
Speaker 1: outflame people to the left because that's where all the
Speaker 1: money is in Democrat primaries and and that didn't work
Speaker 1: out so well for him. Yeah, but what will he
Speaker 1: try to do now?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just sad to me because I remember were you
Speaker 1: around in those days? Right, we've been blessed with your presence.
Speaker 1: Now what about six years?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 3: Almost seven? No, yeah, six and a half November twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: That's remarkable. It's been a while.
Speaker 1: Think of all the things that happened then I've turned
Speaker 1: to remember there was a time, there was an era
Speaker 1: when Mike Johnston would come on the show often as
Speaker 1: I was before me State Legends, and you know, we
Speaker 1: disagreed about lots of things, but cool guy, straight shooter,
Speaker 1: you know, just so much different than he is right now.
Speaker 1: But it just goes back to that power thing, right,
Speaker 1: It just messes people up. Turn three someone three eight
Speaker 1: two five five text dam five seven seven.
Speaker 2: Three Now and who's them to? What does the answer
Speaker 2: to Dan? Well, you know you mean in terms of
Speaker 2: the big lefty donors.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, exactly, shadowy figures, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying anything illegal, right, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's any secret, but the big money in the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party is on the far far left, and their
Speaker 1: attitude is, Hey, if I win the primary, I'm winning
Speaker 1: the general. So I can go as crazy psycho far
Speaker 1: left as I want to to win the primary and
Speaker 1: I'm still going to win the general because Republicans are
Speaker 1: dog meat. I mean, that's the attitude of these Democrats,
Speaker 1: and that's the best chance the GOP has, right, because
Speaker 1: the old pride cometh before the fall, and we're all
Speaker 1: guilty of that to a certain extent. But the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party in Colorado right now, the stuff they're doing, the
Speaker 1: stuff Bennett's doing, they're out there saying, hey, if you
Speaker 1: tell your boy with all those boy parts that he's
Speaker 1: really a boy and not in a girl, you're going
Speaker 1: to lose custody. I mean, that's how drunk with power
Speaker 1: and arrogance and crazy they are right now.
Speaker 2: That cometh before the fall. It's time for the fall.
Speaker 2: You're on the game kapital ship.