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<v Speaker 1>Uh. I know they're working on the Big Beautiful Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I hate even having to say those

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<v Speaker 1>words because I just hate the name of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's going to keep our taxes down. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some infighting within the Republican Party shocking literally no one,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the problems stem from that doesn't cut enough.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all expecting something that was going to pair

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<v Speaker 1>back the size and scope of government, a llah Doge

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<v Speaker 1>type cuts, but it didn't deliver on that. Congressman Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Massy's going to join the program at eight oh five

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that aspect of it. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about in the Senate making some cuts to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Beautiful Bill, but notwithstanding on the Americans for

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<v Speaker 1>Prosperity is behind it, and there is apparently a save

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<v Speaker 1>our Salary rally. Let's talk about that, Donovan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, from Columbus to Washington, DC, across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got opportunities to cut taxes, let people keep more

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<v Speaker 2>of their hard earned money.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the kind of stuff right We've heard at.

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<v Speaker 2>The doors, we talked to voters about and people mobilized

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<v Speaker 2>in support of sending a new Republican majority to Washington

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<v Speaker 2>and strengthening the conservative majority in.

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<v Speaker 3>Columbus to get this stuff done.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in Ohio, we're gonna have a two point seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five percent flat income tax.

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<v Speaker 3>Our folks are rallying in Columbus for that today.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm out here with some of my colleagues

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<v Speaker 2>from across the country in DC talking not just with

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<v Speaker 2>numbers of Congress on the one Big Beautiful Bill and

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<v Speaker 2>the recisions package that they're about to vote on, but

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate about the improvements they can make to

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<v Speaker 2>strengthen the one Big Beautiful Bill, but most importantly, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure the Trump tax cuts stay permanent.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So we're working at all on all fronts this week.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, everyone seems to be a unif lockstep

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<v Speaker 1>immunity over keeping the tax cuts in place. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any argument or debate over that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats want to raise our taxes, we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're all about. But moving aside from that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like for example, Salt, why are we rewarding these democrats states?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've got Republican advocates to raise the ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars flat rate up to forty thousand dollars which

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<v Speaker 1>benefits only these crazy high tax Democrat states, so they

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<v Speaker 1>can write off the taxes that they pay there, why

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<v Speaker 1>are we rewarding them? And is that something the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>may cut out?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Yeah, and I think what that was part of

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<v Speaker 3>the salt.

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<v Speaker 2>In some of the conversations we've had with members of

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<v Speaker 2>Congress and their staff yesterday and anticipating more of those today,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a point of contention, and I think Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>Senate offices understand that. I think part of the challenge

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<v Speaker 2>was piecing together a wide ranging conference in the House

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<v Speaker 2>where you have some of these folks in coastal states

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<v Speaker 2>who constituents are demanding that right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think recognizing that.

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<v Speaker 2>If we can get this out of the House, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the bigger hurdle and has been done, get it

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<v Speaker 2>to the Senate, where there is a lot more deliberative body,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more deliberation on what these processes should look like,

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<v Speaker 2>that we can potentially remove that salt. And that seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have been received fairly well as we've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>to members of the Senate around around that salt giveaway.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see where it ends up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's understood that forty thousand dollars exemption

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<v Speaker 2>as a reward to these blue states that impose these

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<v Speaker 2>high taxes on their citizens just isn't really great policy

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<v Speaker 2>in an area for improvement, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and if the Senate takes it out, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that takes the pressure off of the Republicans from those

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<v Speaker 1>states saying listen, I tried, but it's more important that

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<v Speaker 1>we keep the taxes lower for all Americans and get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing passed than it is for us to get

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<v Speaker 1>rewarded for our high tax states. So sorry, sucks to

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<v Speaker 1>be you, but we tried, and we and we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it in the Senate. So this is much better

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<v Speaker 1>than saying no, because we want to keep that salt

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<v Speaker 1>deduction at forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Grand Yeah, And I think that's part of the strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a lot less Blue state senators than you

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<v Speaker 2>do blue state Republican congressman, right, and so there's less

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<v Speaker 2>of a desire I think, and the fifty three members

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<v Speaker 2>in the US Senate to support the salt deduction. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the question then is some of the insight baseball, right,

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<v Speaker 2>is then if.

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<v Speaker 3>It comes back to that when it goes back to

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<v Speaker 3>the House, if.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets it's salt, is a limit it entirely or

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<v Speaker 2>gets too big of a haircut. What do those thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>or so salt Republican congressman do? Do they hold the

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<v Speaker 2>bill hostage? I think you call him on the bluff, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you call him on the bluff because they're

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<v Speaker 2>refusal to vote for this when it comes back to

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<v Speaker 2>the House. Would be a vote in favor of four

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<v Speaker 2>point five trillion dollars in new taxes on Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just highly unpopular. So we'll see. This stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>never beautiful though.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that, and you'll probably give you more of

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<v Speaker 2>the insider stuff on all that. But the important thing

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<v Speaker 2>here is that they're moving forward aheaded schedule, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>hope that this thing can be all done by July fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>which twould be quite an accomplishment. I think folks were

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<v Speaker 2>expecting late summer. But we can have these tax cuts

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<v Speaker 2>made permanent then. And then also there's the Recisions package.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to talk with Congressman Massey about that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's an important beginning step.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, let's dive into that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll bring it back Donald, the Americans were prosperate. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get the website and for the details about the save

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<v Speaker 1>our Salary rally, hang on a second Donovan and bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back after I mentioned my friend, it's a plump

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<v Speaker 1>tight plumbing. It's always plumbing done right because you deserve

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<v Speaker 1>better and they know it. They deliver on that locally,

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<v Speaker 1>are serving the entire Tri State area. They treat every

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<v Speaker 1>call like a neighbor asking for help. That's why there

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<v Speaker 1>might go to plumbers. They've helped me out a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of times, including in emergencies. You can if your

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<v Speaker 1>chandelier starts raining, that was my illustration. They're definitely the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that call no service fees, free estimates. They are

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<v Speaker 1>a plus the Better Business Bureau and the Tri State's

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<v Speaker 1>number one installer for tankless water heaters. And go tankless

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<v Speaker 1>not only to save money, to save space because they're

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<v Speaker 1>really small, hanging on a wall like the size of

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<v Speaker 1>a suitcase. Get rid of that giant tank unlimited hot water.

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<v Speaker 1>Your tank goes belly up from time to time. You

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<v Speaker 1>need a tankles water. Plus, they last longer than traditional tank,

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<v Speaker 1>so lots of reasons to go with that. Plump tight

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<v Speaker 1>are the folks that deliver on that, but every single

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<v Speaker 1>residential plumbing project, they're the ones to call to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's five one three seven two seven eighty four eighty

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<v Speaker 3>Com fifty five krs the talk station by texting sixty

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<v Speaker 3>four thousand, you're great receiver. Career on him at six

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<v Speaker 3>forty one. Come up with six forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've have Kracy Detox station and Donald and Neil

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<v Speaker 1>for Americans for Prosperity on I'm talking about the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Bill and the impact You mentioned the recision that

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of independent from this. It wasn't on my

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<v Speaker 1>list of topics with congressom asking me may very well

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<v Speaker 1>get around to it. But beyond the Big Beautiful Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>which also gets rid of, I might underscore this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very important because I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are responsible for our carbon dioxide, our

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<v Speaker 1>exhalation changing the temperature of the planet. But it eliminates

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<v Speaker 1>a trillion dollars of these green energy tax credits. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whether Elon Musk is really upset about that

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<v Speaker 1>or not, but you know what I mean. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to incentivize somebody to pay for some to buy something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, other reason I'm going to buy an EV

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<v Speaker 1>is because I'm getting seven thousand dollars from the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, good ideas don't require force or coercion, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are bad ideas, and I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I should personally be responsible for paying for.

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<v Speaker 3>It, Oh, without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that was one of the big things too,

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<v Speaker 2>to send folks like burning Moraine to beat Shared Brown

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<v Speaker 2>and send Burning Moraine to Washington. Uh. They wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>undo the disastrous effects of Bidenomics and these green energy scams.

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<v Speaker 2>Is tillion dollars in subsidies were at the heart of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and so called Inflation Reduction Act, the scheme where the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government said we're going to spend more money, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>do the disastrous effects of the government spending too much money.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wild And yeah, the one big, beautiful bill

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<v Speaker 2>gets that done. Not one single bill is going to

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<v Speaker 2>do undo all of the problems that we sort of

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<v Speaker 2>find ourselves in at this moment in our country. But

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<v Speaker 2>getting the tax cuts made permanent, undoing things like the

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<v Speaker 2>green energy new scam, and then bringing in recisions packages

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<v Speaker 2>to begin to chip away at the overall spending problem

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<v Speaker 2>and codify the DOGE cuts is the way we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to begin to kind of change the culture and turn

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<v Speaker 1>No question about that. I guess I'm just do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you understand any understanding of what else the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>wants to change. I mean, I've seen some, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>discussions around the margins, and they're we're talking about compromise,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know specifically other than like the salt point,

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<v Speaker 1>what the Senate is proposing are do they are they

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<v Speaker 1>willing to accept the the the work requirement for Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is an important valuable thing for people

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<v Speaker 1>out there. They that's a program that's designed to help

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Obama expanded all that to include literally scores

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<v Speaker 1>or exerting some effort to get some job training.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we brought that up with both Cener Marino

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<v Speaker 2>and Senator Housted's teams, and we'll see both of them

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<v Speaker 2>here shortly this morning, them themselves. But we talked about Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, you know, they they understand what the

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<v Speaker 2>program is designed to do, and they're not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>impact that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right they But like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like many voters, believe those programs are designed for folks

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<v Speaker 2>who are senior citizens, who are our low income who

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, disability, disabled disabilities, the folks who truly

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<v Speaker 2>need that assistance, right, who need that help, who don't

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<v Speaker 2>maybe have other mechanisms in their lives to help support them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what the program is designed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's grown to eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Different qualifying groups, and most recently, right, you know, ten

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<v Speaker 2>years fifteen years ago, Ohio was one of those expansion states,

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<v Speaker 2>and those expansions, right haveled able, able bodied working adults

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<v Speaker 2>to go on the program without any other requirements.

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<v Speaker 3>So we need to change that. I think that's something

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<v Speaker 3>that the Senate's going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Came up several times, and I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see that as a key improvement and we need it

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<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, we're finding fraud, waste, and abuse in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>State Representative Mike Devilla put out a report identifying six

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars in money going to folks ten thousand of

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<v Speaker 2>these people are millionaires. Brian, Yeah, closet report, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just wild. And so that's the kind of stuff we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to change. And I think from Washington making some

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<v Speaker 2>changes to Ohio making some changes, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>that spending growth under control.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's within the control of the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio to get its arms around the fraud, waste and

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<v Speaker 1>abuse that you just mentioned. We brought this topic up

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<v Speaker 1>a million times on the Morning Show, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>find it appalling. The calculated figures are, you know, six

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars of fraud, waste, abuse, and that people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>eligible or on it, you know, dead people on the rolls.

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<v Speaker 1>We can just go on and on and on for

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<v Speaker 1>all things that seem to be so easy to clean up,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet apparently our elected officials have no incentive to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, or there's no it's no urgency in every state.

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<v Speaker 1>You can argue there's always a budget issue and a

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<v Speaker 1>budget problem. By not spending six billion dollars that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be spent anyway, you kind of create a solution to

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<v Speaker 1>a problem that may exist or may not, depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>your person, your your perspective on on spending from government.

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<v Speaker 1>But is there any way that like this bill and

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<v Speaker 1>someone could amend it to require some obligation because this

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<v Speaker 1>is the taxpayers of the United States of America who

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<v Speaker 1>are shouldering a huge chunk of the burden from the

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<v Speaker 1>federal reimbursement. Federal dollar reimbursement means American taxpayer dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>their labor are paying for fraud, waste, and abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, so that's six billion, I believe is just

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<v Speaker 2>the Ohio side of it. It is just the money

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<v Speaker 2>we send down through income and sales taxes to Columbus.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't include the federal share.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, thats somewhere from sixty five to ninety cents per dollar, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>American taxpayers are also sending, so that you basically double

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<v Speaker 2>the number almost nearly. And yeah, I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the stuff that folks are looking at right

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<v Speaker 2>in both in Columbus identifying some ways to hold the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Medicated accountable and shine a light on the

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<v Speaker 2>obfuscation and the problems in that department, but then also

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<v Speaker 2>here in Washington, adjusting some of those programs and giving

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<v Speaker 2>states some more leniency and ability to manage the program

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<v Speaker 2>because that also becomes a problem. Right they ask for

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<v Speaker 2>these waivers and depending on who's president, the waivers approved

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<v Speaker 2>or denied. We need more confidence and stability in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of those programs. States are able to administer the programs,

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<v Speaker 2>especially as they burden state budgets coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 1>And pulling on this is consistent with you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are saying correct.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats run around screen but cutting people's medical benefits off

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that may very well happen, but also is

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<v Speaker 1>the work requirement? No, these people, we need lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people in the trades. It's wonderful pivot that I use

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Look, twenty hours a week work most

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<v Speaker 1>of us work forty if not more. But putting in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty hours toward learning a trade can get you career

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<v Speaker 1>employment level money and you can be free of the

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<v Speaker 1>umbilical court of government. Isn't that something that we should embrace?

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<v Speaker 1>And where are the American people on that? When you

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<v Speaker 1>do your polling?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we actually just released the pulling two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we got to the release the pulling, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>sharing it with members and their staff all on this item.

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<v Speaker 2>We pulled folks, ninety percent of voters want to prioritize

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<v Speaker 2>care for seniors, low income families, and people with disabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>But also nine and ten voters, so just almost the

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<v Speaker 2>same amount, say Medicaid should eliminate waste, fraud, an abuse,

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<v Speaker 2>So the program provide better health care for low income

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<v Speaker 2>families and safe tax pair money. But what this really

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to in a lot of ways, Brian, right,

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<v Speaker 2>is the messaging war around that right. Democrats have been

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<v Speaker 2>going out there saying you're gonna you're gonna put grandma

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<v Speaker 2>on the streets, and you're gonna you're gonna take disabled

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not what It's a lie Republicans are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lie, and so we got to call them

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<v Speaker 2>out on it as we're doing here, but also stand

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<v Speaker 2>up for the folks who are who are fighting to

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<v Speaker 2>for the for the stability and strength of these programs

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<v Speaker 2>so that they can exist for the people who truly need.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go and see that that's that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more fundamental points for all those people screaming, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you're gonna cut medical benefitial for Grandma, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a lie the stability of the program. It obligates

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<v Speaker 1>us to get rid of fraudway's and abuse, and to

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<v Speaker 1>tailor it and narrow it down for those who truly

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<v Speaker 1>need it, because as of right now, it's not sustainable

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<v Speaker 1>and people literally will, including Grandma and people on life's margins,

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<v Speaker 1>will lose their medical coverage that the program falls and

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<v Speaker 1>collapses because of how huge it is and how unsupportable

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<v Speaker 1>it is in terms of the number of dollars. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just craziness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know the problem here then becomes right

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<v Speaker 2>tight time tables on getting these things done. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Congress very quickly will be looking at reelection, and that

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<v Speaker 2>always silly season comes around. It's harder to have the

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<v Speaker 2>political will. And it's why it's so important to get

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<v Speaker 2>this big, beautiful bill done. Sen make their improvements, take

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<v Speaker 2>to the president's test so we can have these things

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about accomplished done in the bank comes li

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<v Speaker 2>fourth Donovan.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a rally?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, so on the state side, we're busy on

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<v Speaker 2>all fronts here. As I said, we're rallying in Columbus today.

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<v Speaker 2>So if your listeners are able to make it up

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<v Speaker 2>there to the State House one o'clock this afternoon on

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<v Speaker 2>the State House steps, Senator George Lang is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be joining us for to Save our Salaries Rally. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a rally in support of a two point seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>percent flat income tax, the second lowest in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest in the Midwest. Brian, this has been our

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<v Speaker 2>number one priority four years and we're rallying today because

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate will vote on their budget bill this afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>that includes that flat tax provision one o'clock at the

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<v Speaker 2>State House.

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<v Speaker 3>Senator George Lang, AFP Leebray, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a good time and a real

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<v Speaker 2>celebration of the work we've done over the last decade

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<v Speaker 2>to go from nine brackets down to two one one

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<v Speaker 2>flat tax, one flat tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that I call that fair