Speaker 1: It's nice eyes. I'm going you Razy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Dan Watkins, as we move into our
Speaker 1: fourth and final hour here on Tuesday night, April fifteenth.
Speaker 1: Tonight is the twelfth anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing.
Speaker 1: That bombing, of course, occurred on what was Monday, April
Speaker 1: fifteenth in twenty and thirteen. And what I'd like to
Speaker 1: do is give you an opportunity to reflect on maybe
Speaker 1: where you were, what experience you might have might not
Speaker 1: have had. I have a bunch of open lines here,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to just give the number out one
Speaker 1: more time, and if you don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: the bombing and the loss of innocent lives and the
Speaker 1: fact that the Boston bomber number two is still alive
Speaker 1: in Colorado in the Supermax prison. By the way, In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, bomber number two's death sentence was reversed by
Speaker 1: the US Circuit Court of Appeals sitting here in Boston,
Speaker 1: First Circuit, and they found that the judge, Judge O'Toole,
Speaker 1: who's a really good judge, George O'Toole, experienced judge, had
Speaker 1: not properly screened all the jurors and how much they
Speaker 1: had heard about the case. Well, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: everybody heard about that case. There's no question about that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So as a result of that appeal, the First Circuit said, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to get rid of the death sentence and
Speaker 1: also eliminated three I guess of the thirty convictions against
Speaker 1: Boston Barber two I don't mention his name, and they
Speaker 1: ordered a new penalty phase jury with fresh jurors, leaving
Speaker 1: the decision of a new change of venue to the
Speaker 1: district Court. The remaining conviction still carried multiple life sentences,
Speaker 1: ensured that he would remain in prison irrespective of what
Speaker 1: happened well. The US government appealed this ruling to the
Speaker 1: US Supreme Court, who heard the case in March of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. It was argued appealed in March of
Speaker 1: twenty one, it was argued in front of the court
Speaker 1: in October of twenty twenty one, and in March of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the Supreme Court reversed the decision of
Speaker 1: the First Circuit and reinstated Boston Bomber's number two death penalty,
Speaker 1: and tonight he sits in the in Colorado in what's
Speaker 1: called the supermax prison, along with some of the most
Speaker 1: some of the worst criminals in the history of this country.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned initially incorrectly, I thought that Joe Biden
Speaker 1: had basically filed an executive order. He actually commuted the
Speaker 1: death penalty of thirty seven of the forty inmates on
Speaker 1: federal prison. He has no authority over state prisons and
Speaker 1: state death penalties, and they have been during President Trump's
Speaker 1: time in office. Some state executions have already occurred. So
Speaker 1: at this point, I don't see what's holding up the
Speaker 1: White House and the Justice Department from making a move
Speaker 1: on Boston Barber number two. Again, as we discussed last week,
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with my good friend Harvey Silverglade,
Speaker 1: who was in ultimably opposed to the death penalty in
Speaker 1: any case because it sets a precedent and if there
Speaker 1: could be an innocent person who would lose their life.
Speaker 1: So again, I fully totally respect Harvey Silverglate. No one
Speaker 1: who I respect more than Harvey Silverglade in the legal community,
Speaker 1: but I disagree with him. And this is a case
Speaker 1: with there's not a sintilla of doubt. It's not a
Speaker 1: question of beyond a reasonable doubt. There's not a sintilla
Speaker 1: of doubt that Boston bomber number two was clearly one
Speaker 1: of the two men who planted these bombs on Boylston Street.
Speaker 1: And they are aggravating circumstances to plant those bombs with
Speaker 1: the ball bearings, the steel ball bearings inside, which were
Speaker 1: intended to kill and mame, which they did. Anyway, let
Speaker 1: me go to Warren in Fall River. Let's start it
Speaker 1: off here in the eleven o'clock hour. It's a sad anniversary,
Speaker 1: but it's one that I think needs to be remembered.
Speaker 1: Warren in Fall River. Warren, you're next first up this hour.
Speaker 1: Thanks for holding through the news. Go right ahead, Warren.
Speaker 2: Hey, Dan, Yeah, just one. You know, I remember that
Speaker 2: day vividly. I used to I mean, if I had
Speaker 2: stayed in Boston, you know, like I had, I used
Speaker 2: to work right across from where the finish was in
Speaker 2: on Barleston Street, and you to overlook the finish line there.
Speaker 2: So but I got transferred a year like a year
Speaker 2: before down to Providence College. So if if I think
Speaker 2: it transferred down to Province College, I would have been
Speaker 2: right there at the finish line, and you know, when
Speaker 2: I worked in Boston, I watched many, many of the
Speaker 2: races from you know, from months from the window overlooking
Speaker 2: you overlooking the race.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, you just never know how how your
Speaker 1: life works out. You think about the people who you
Speaker 1: think about the people who were in the wrong place
Speaker 1: at the wrong time. Yeah, you know, uh, they are
Speaker 1: the people who were there five minutes earlier and left
Speaker 1: to go to lunch and they were spared.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's absolutely it's like the roll of
Speaker 1: the dice, I guess would be the only way to
Speaker 1: describe it. Warren.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And and just just a comment on
Speaker 2: what Biden did you know with the commuting of thirty
Speaker 2: seven murderers. Yeah, all right, Yeah, that that just, you know,
Speaker 2: is hypocrisy at best, because what did the left run on,
Speaker 2: What did the liberal left run on this past thing
Speaker 2: was abortion? You know, I mean the right to kill,
Speaker 2: you know, the right to the right to have an abortion.
Speaker 1: No, I understand, Well that's been the position for a
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I understand hypocritical that they want to defend
Speaker 2: like the murderers, but you know, they don't want to
Speaker 2: defend the innocent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well again, that's an issue that is one that
Speaker 1: people feel deeply on on both sides of the spectrum,
Speaker 1: and I think that there's no middle ground there, and
Speaker 1: I just I want to focus tonight on the bar
Speaker 1: you know that sort of thing. So I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. What Biden had made a pledge that he
Speaker 1: would eliminate the federal death penalty, and he made three exceptions.
Speaker 1: One was the Boston bomber, One was the guy who
Speaker 1: killed the black parishioners in Charleston, South Carolina, and then
Speaker 1: one was the guy that went in and killed the
Speaker 1: parishioners a Xury of Life temple outside of Pittsburgh. So
Speaker 1: I commend him for not, you know, commuting those sentences.
Speaker 1: But there were people in the Democratic Party who were
Speaker 1: upset that he that he didn't commute those sentences too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it. There were people on
Speaker 1: the far left who said, well he should. He prom
Speaker 1: is then there were forty people on death row uh
Speaker 1: in the federal in the federal system, and thirty seven
Speaker 1: of them now are guaranteed to to to die of
Speaker 1: natural causes or maybe at the hands of another inmate,
Speaker 1: but they won't be executed by the government.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they won't be executed. But also like if
Speaker 2: you you know, if you remember back during those horrible days,
Speaker 2: you know, son Son, I have actually went you know,
Speaker 2: went to university down at ums Dartmouth, which yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, absolutely, he went back there after the
Speaker 1: bombing as a matter of fact, And and some of
Speaker 1: his some of his roommates were people who I believe,
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that
Speaker 1: some of his roommates actually lied about his whereabouts and
Speaker 1: some of them were convicted of of minor, minor crimes. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into all the details, but
Speaker 1: they were there were people even knowing, having known what
Speaker 1: he did, they gave him, they tried to give him cover. Hey, Ron,
Speaker 1: I'm up my break. I got to let you go.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your call as always, you know that. Thanks BOM.
Speaker 1: Talk to you soon, Thanks Warren. Okay, I got some
Speaker 1: open lines here, and I'm going to talk about this
Speaker 1: till midnight, with or without you. I hope you joined me.
Speaker 1: Six one seven, two five four ten thirty one line
Speaker 1: there and two at six one seven, nine three one
Speaker 1: ten thirty. I don't want an event like this not
Speaker 1: to be recognized and remembered. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: there are people around the country who are listening, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be from Boston who have been impacted
Speaker 1: by this event. But I think those of us in
Speaker 1: Boston were impacted by it more dramatically because all of
Speaker 1: us have walked that portion of Boylston Street where those
Speaker 1: bombs went off. People who are listeners and are listening
Speaker 1: outside of New England, they may never have been to Boston,
Speaker 1: so I know that they empathize with us as as Americans.
Speaker 1: But these were people who were willing to just engage
Speaker 1: in terrorist at activities at the marathon. Twelve years ago
Speaker 1: today and twelve years ago tonight. This city was in shock,
Speaker 1: This whole region, this country was in shock. But again,
Speaker 1: it's the Boston Marathon, and that's what made it so
Speaker 1: important to all of us. Feel free to join this conversation.
Speaker 1: If you disagree with me on Boston barber number two
Speaker 1: getting the death penalty, bring it on. We can talk
Speaker 1: about it. I can respect your opinion, but I'm more
Speaker 1: interested in your recollection of the day and what we
Speaker 1: can do to make sure that something as horrific as
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen again. I guess there's no way we
Speaker 1: can guarantee that, but we have to do whatever we
Speaker 1: can to prevent it from happening again. Back on Nightside,
Speaker 1: join the conversation. We're here for you. Give us a
Speaker 1: call back after this. You're on night Side with Dan
Speaker 1: Ray ONBS Boston's news radio. All right, folks, got to
Speaker 1: hear from you. Let's go to Scott and Quinn's. Scott,
Speaker 1: you're next one night Side. Welcome.
Speaker 4: Yes, Dan, good to be here on the show.
Speaker 1: Good to hear your voice. Scott, go right ahead. But
Speaker 1: I know you work. You work in a hospital, if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken correct, Yes.
Speaker 4: The hospital that was very much involved that day. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I was on duty and I walk in from having
Speaker 4: lunch where the mailman in the restaurant says, I think
Speaker 4: something happened down at the at the finish line. And
Speaker 4: I get get to the hospital, get in, and I'm
Speaker 4: handed what's called the BAT phone, which is the phone
Speaker 4: that my department takes calls from other people in the
Speaker 4: hospital for for our services with helping with the technology
Speaker 4: and the and the O R and and that's when
Speaker 4: the casualties start coming in. So I'm on I'm handling
Speaker 4: the bat phone and and helping the care teams, you know,
Speaker 4: with the technology in the rooms, is the casualties are
Speaker 4: coming in and being treated. But the thing that was
Speaker 4: most amazing to me is, you know, in ther on
Speaker 4: a day to day basis, everyone's commitsing, talking, doing doing
Speaker 4: all the stuff that workers in any other workplace doing,
Speaker 4: all with doing the amazing work that they do there.
Speaker 4: And it was like someone flicked a switch and everybody
Speaker 4: and the entire OAR turned into this machine that responded
Speaker 4: to this mass casualty event and everyone was just doing
Speaker 4: incredible work. All the emergency kits came out, all the
Speaker 4: emergency procedures went into place, and the entire and just
Speaker 4: seeing it all happen and being there and being a
Speaker 4: part of it, and you know, getting called to a
Speaker 4: room to help with this technology or being on the
Speaker 4: phone and summoning the right people to the right place,
Speaker 4: and well, the thing's got through it that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing that must have been astonishing was obviously,
Speaker 1: in any given day, you can have a horrific automobile accident,
Speaker 1: you can have a shooting somewhere, but the number of
Speaker 1: people who had to be attended to, you know, Obviously
Speaker 1: you have you know, four people will three people die
Speaker 1: at the finish line. So you have the three who
Speaker 1: die at the finish line. Then you have dozens who
Speaker 1: come in who have been I mean, I hate to
Speaker 1: use the word maimed, I mean people who have lost limbs.
Speaker 1: And then you have people who have other really bad injuries,
Speaker 1: but they at least it must have been like what
Speaker 1: it would have been in a mass unit in the.
Speaker 3: Middle of war, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: But it was amazing just to see the way my
Speaker 4: entire organization at the flick of a switch turned from
Speaker 4: like casual every day doing health care and living life
Speaker 4: to an amazing emergency response team that just everybody pulled
Speaker 4: together and got the job done.
Speaker 1: But the root what I'm saying is the routine day
Speaker 1: that it was up until two forty nine, which you
Speaker 1: would have had some surgeries, you would have had this
Speaker 1: and all of that. But all of a sudden, everything
Speaker 1: is compounded dramatically, and that's what must have been an
Speaker 1: amazing experience for you. Scott. Thank you for your service,
Speaker 1: thank you for what you did that day. I'm awfully
Speaker 1: glad you called because I knew that you had a
Speaker 1: perspective that probably no one else would have had in
Speaker 1: my audience, sort of an inside perspective. How long did
Speaker 1: that work?
Speaker 4: People on the gurneys as they were being wheeled in
Speaker 4: to be taken care of, they knew that they were
Speaker 4: in the right place.
Speaker 1: How long did that work? How long Scott? Did that
Speaker 1: work day continue? Obviously you must have worked well into
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 4: Into the evening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: I just from of the faces the most, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, yeah yeah. And then the people will come
Speaker 1: out and who are now running the marathon, who lost limbs,
Speaker 1: people who were ballet dancers, and an amazing group of people. Scott,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for that recollection. That's an amazing story.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
Speaker 5: All Right, damn, but have a great night.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Christine. Christine, I'd love to know where
Speaker 1: you were, what your recollection of that horrific day is.
Speaker 6: I was actually in the Faucner Hospital. I had a
Speaker 6: knoscope that day, and I had just come out of recovery.
Speaker 6: So they wanted to they told me what they told
Speaker 6: us what was happening. So they said, would you mind,
Speaker 6: We're going to get you up moving and we're going
Speaker 6: to send you home. So I was like, that's fine.
Speaker 6: They said, all the you know, all of the ambulances,
Speaker 6: who are going to start calling up and everything. I
Speaker 6: remember that exactly.
Speaker 1: What what hospital were you locate? Where were you?
Speaker 7: Fuck? U?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they got their stats having patience there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that. Yeah, that part Farctor was very
Speaker 1: close and it's it's it's a it's a well equipped
Speaker 1: hospital and yeah, I can just imagine they all day.
Speaker 1: It was going to be all hands on deck. It
Speaker 1: was an amazing week. It was an amazing week to
Speaker 1: live in Boston. Between I remember later in the week
Speaker 1: the car chase. That night I mentioned in the last hour,
Speaker 1: I went to pick my daughter up at college in
Speaker 1: Cambridge and uh, it was like I had no idea
Speaker 1: what was going on, but all I saw was blue
Speaker 1: lights heading down Memorial Drive. Uh, and it was like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And then I put two and two together.
Speaker 1: The shooting of the of the police officer Sean Collier
Speaker 1: at m I T where they had.
Speaker 6: The all the city all came together and just you know,
Speaker 6: we all we all just you know, it was amazing
Speaker 6: how the sating was banner and God bless America that
Speaker 6: they caught him.
Speaker 1: And I remember I remember the night, well the next day,
Speaker 1: when they next evening, when they caught him, and I
Speaker 1: remember the the order that that everybody, you know, shelter
Speaker 1: in place. I had never heard the term shelter in
Speaker 1: place before that, and you and it was like you
Speaker 1: assumed I got to keep a look out the window
Speaker 1: in case this this guy is going to break into mind.
Speaker 1: Everybody personalized it. Everyone was unalert And it would be
Speaker 1: nice if I just wish that somehow in those times
Speaker 1: of crisis, everybody seems to pull together. But those times
Speaker 1: of crisis, they they disappeared, they dissipate very quickly, and
Speaker 1: then we're back at each other's throats. Unfortunately, my heart just.
Speaker 6: Goes out to everyone that was involved, that that got killed.
Speaker 6: So oh, it's just my heart is so sad, you know.
Speaker 1: Ye again, we have to always honor their memory. I
Speaker 1: know that there were ceremonies conducted today by officials in
Speaker 1: the city and from the state, and we we can't
Speaker 1: ever forget this. I mean, this is this is something
Speaker 1: as dramatic to us and as personal to us. You know,
Speaker 1: nine to eleven impacted a lot of families because there
Speaker 1: were people who had relatives in New York and there
Speaker 1: were people on those planes from Boston. Yes, but this
Speaker 1: was we were ground zero. Boston was ground zero for
Speaker 1: that day. It was thank you.
Speaker 6: I don't know why they're keeping that terrorist alive. I
Speaker 6: don't understand why has he not dead yet?
Speaker 7: I don't understand at some.
Speaker 1: At some point, I think this administration needs to needs
Speaker 1: to address that issue, and hopefully they'll address it soon.
Speaker 1: Thanks Christine, we'll talk soon. Thank you so much. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got Bill in Chicago waiting, and Bill, if you
Speaker 1: can hold on, I'll get you right on the other
Speaker 1: side of the news robber. Just let Bill know he's
Speaker 1: coming up next. And I got some open lines, folks,
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, Uh, are your memories that short?
Speaker 1: You don't recall that day? I don't know six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 1: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 1: What are the lessons of that day? What do we
Speaker 1: take from that day? Obviously we we hold in high
Speaker 1: esteem the response, amazing response by police, by fire, by
Speaker 1: emt UH people on the ground, by doctors, by nurses,
Speaker 1: people who were called in a moment of crisis and
Speaker 1: they responded. I'd love to hear from you in your recollection. Uh,
Speaker 1: and again I'm more than happy to talk about why,
Speaker 1: twelve years later, the Boston bomber number two, his name
Speaker 1: will not be mentioned on this program by me. Why
Speaker 1: Boston bomber number two still sits and gets three square
Speaker 1: squeeze three meals a day and sleeps in comfort. It
Speaker 1: is his time should have run out long ago in
Speaker 1: my opinion, Back on nights Side, right after the news
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour, my name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 1: The only we got one line at six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four to ten thirty and one at six one seven,
Speaker 1: nine three one ten thirty. And if they're not filled
Speaker 1: up by the end of the newscast and one is
Speaker 1: only one left six one seven, nine three one ten thirty,
Speaker 1: I would have been disappointed in my audience. Coming back
Speaker 1: on Nightside, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio. This is the twelfth anniversary of the Boston
Speaker 1: Marathon bombing. Let me go to Bill in Chicago. Hey, Bill,
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling in. How are you tonight?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Not too bad and none too bad?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 5: If ahead of time, I get the stories of update
Speaker 5: that the Irish family about your last name, but I
Speaker 5: think it's Scottish. Uh, but that's another story. H Look
Speaker 5: at I lived it on the country, and I've heard
Speaker 5: people talk about the New York Marathon, the Chicago one.
Speaker 5: They don't want to California. But my best memory, and
Speaker 5: I tell people, when did the someone under send at
Speaker 5: the time the first marathon ran and Bosston? I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I was ten years old. I lived in Naty
Speaker 5: and I was I couldn't wait the marathon day because
Speaker 5: P used to go there and gives slaves oranges and
Speaker 5: water the runners coming by. It was a hell of
Speaker 5: a memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell well, you know, the first Boston Marathon goes
Speaker 1: back to like eighteen ninety six, I believe, or eighteen
Speaker 1: ninety seven, So it's been around a long time. And
Speaker 1: I can't even remember listening as a kid in the
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, as a young young kid in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: on my grandfather's radio he lived in Jamaica plane and
Speaker 1: my grandmother lived on Jamaica Plane. And it was not
Speaker 1: on television. I mean, it was just it was just
Speaker 1: a radio race. And you would hear someone who would
Speaker 1: be reporting.
Speaker 5: In US, yeah, about the New York and the Chicago.
Speaker 5: By anyway, I never forget it, and it was a
Speaker 5: big day in Naty. And the other thing I wanted
Speaker 5: to say is there were two old runners, Johnny Kelly
Speaker 5: and Clarence Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yep, sure, well, well I interviewed Johnny Kelly many times
Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineteen eighties and into the nineteen nineties. Sure,
Speaker 1: and never met Clarence Tomorrow because I think he proceeded
Speaker 1: Johnny Kelly's time. But there was Johnny Kelly and the elder,
Speaker 1: and then Johnny Kelly the younger. There was the second,
Speaker 1: Johnny Kelly out of Connecticut, who had the same name,
Speaker 1: obviously fairly common name, and he I don't think he
Speaker 1: won it, but you know, Johnny Kelly won the marathon.
Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and look. But certainly like
Speaker 1: in the late thirties, early forties, you know, and he
Speaker 1: was running in those days there was there were no
Speaker 1: prize money. It was you know, it was uh, you
Speaker 1: got a a wreath, a victory wreath on your head, uh,
Speaker 1: and and and a couple of beef stew and that
Speaker 1: was it, you know. There and there were others, I
Speaker 1: mean back in the back in the day, there was
Speaker 1: a guy Tarzan and Brown, and I mean these were
Speaker 1: guys in the you know, in the long in the
Speaker 1: way back machine. But yeah, they there's there's been several
Speaker 1: that that that we remember very well, and certainly Johnny
Speaker 1: Kelly would be one of them. I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: the list here. I don't know off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, but Damar won it. I guess it was
Speaker 1: seven times in the twenties and thirties. The last time
Speaker 1: that he won it was nineteen thirty. And then Johnny
Speaker 1: Kelly comes along and wins it in nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 1: And he comes back ten years later and wins it
Speaker 1: in forty five, so you know, he was and then
Speaker 1: there was a different john j Kelly was the guy
Speaker 1: from Connecticut. He won it in fifty seven. But Johnny
Speaker 1: Kelly his record was that he always ranted, and he
Speaker 1: always competed, and he always finished. He had some sort
Speaker 1: of a crazy record that he completed in so, you know,
Speaker 1: completed so many marathons in a row. It was unbelievable. Unbelievable. Bill,
Speaker 1: Thank you for you listen to us in Chicago every night.
Speaker 1: Out there, I hope we think we're losing our connection.
Speaker 1: Are you still there. Bill, Yeah, we lost telling. We
Speaker 1: lost him. Thank you for calling. Bill, appreciate it. Let
Speaker 1: him know that we lost him there, Brob please that
Speaker 1: would be great if you can handle the call from there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on, Rob, if you want to take
Speaker 1: it down, Okay, that's fine. We lost him. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me go next to We're gonna go next to. Let
Speaker 1: me go to Joe in Boston. Joe, appreciate your calling.
Speaker 1: And I'm surprised more folks aren't jumping tonight to jump
Speaker 1: on the lines. Go ahead, Joe. How are you good?
Speaker 3: Good evening? Dan, I'm doing great, not much better now
Speaker 3: that I'm talking to you. Were you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Were you working that day?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: Actually, Dan, it was a funny day because my grandson
Speaker 8: was actually three years old, and then he's a best
Speaker 8: friend that was four, and I look into a little
Speaker 8: park in Jamaica plane and then because my intention originally
Speaker 8: was to get the two kids at.
Speaker 3: Three in a four year old with me into the
Speaker 3: finish line. However, the four year old that came with
Speaker 3: them came with two causes. They were five and six.
Speaker 8: So I say I can handle two kids before is
Speaker 8: I don't think I want to handle four kids.
Speaker 3: So I used to in Jamaica plane.
Speaker 8: We were by the Southeast Corridor, by the green Stree
Speaker 8: station there, Yark, So we used to.
Speaker 3: I used stay with the kids there in then once I.
Speaker 8: Was done with them that I was getting them home,
Speaker 8: I heard it on the radio, and I mean I was,
Speaker 8: you know, I mean I was numb. I say, he's
Speaker 8: not here in Boston. I mean, this cannot be. You know,
Speaker 8: I couldn't believe it. But I couldn't have myself found myself.
Speaker 8: You know, there were two kids. It would have been
Speaker 8: a horrible thing they were.
Speaker 1: There were probably a lot of people there, obviously with children,
Speaker 1: and and that's what really first of all, the use
Speaker 1: that these guys had the pressure cooker bombs with the
Speaker 1: I mean with the ball bearings inside, which it just
Speaker 1: intended to name people to take.
Speaker 3: It main people.
Speaker 8: I mean the Martin Martin kids. I mean, oh my goodness,
Speaker 8: that kid. I mean that hurt me so about his
Speaker 8: sister because his sister was made I mean they yeah,
Speaker 8: you was think you're real bad. And I mean, and
Speaker 8: I couldn't. I mean, it took me a while. I
Speaker 8: guess that must be what they call trauma. Or whatever
Speaker 8: I mean, because I couldn't believe it. I refuse to believe,
Speaker 8: you know, that I was here in Boston. You know,
Speaker 8: it was a horrible experience, horrible horror experience. And then
Speaker 8: on my end, other business end that I drive a
Speaker 8: lot of people, high end people to and from places.
Speaker 8: I actually had any student that I overlooked, a student
Speaker 8: that I was taking care of, busy in the parents.
Speaker 8: They were calling from Brazil, very wealthy parents. They couldn't
Speaker 8: work hold of her, but they got home because they
Speaker 8: got my home number. They were able to talk to
Speaker 8: me and say, oh no, I talked to the young lady,
Speaker 8: she's fine. They flew in a day and a half
Speaker 8: later because they were so worried. They flew in private.
Speaker 3: Of course, I wasn't able to the restaurants in the city.
Speaker 8: They were all closed because they the restaurants they could
Speaker 8: not get the help to call be in and.
Speaker 3: Work because the transportation was shut down.
Speaker 8: So I was actually able to manage and get them,
Speaker 8: you know, to restaurants of people that I knew that
Speaker 8: they were operating, you know, in their experience, was you
Speaker 8: know okay, because otherwise, I mean it would have been.
Speaker 3: You know, insane, but it was. It was something to remember.
Speaker 3: I always remember that. I always remember that end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a day that none of us who
Speaker 1: were here will forget. Uh. And again the fact that
Speaker 1: it happened in Boston, it's something that we can do
Speaker 1: in Boston, in.
Speaker 8: Boston, of all places in Boston. About place I was
Speaker 8: actually when the chief started. I was driving through the
Speaker 8: bridge the mass have in the bridge to drop off
Speaker 8: in Cambridge, and I've never seen so many cards with
Speaker 8: brute eyes going on that direction.
Speaker 3: I was returning from Cambridge and there were all kinds.
Speaker 8: Of vehicles going out that way, and it was because
Speaker 8: they had the chase going into Watertown that day.
Speaker 3: It was just I mean, it was just so real,
Speaker 3: so real.
Speaker 1: We will we will talk soon, Okay, and h the
Speaker 1: Red Sox one tonight, Joe after last night. Unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks buddy, Thanks Joe. We'll talk to you again.
Speaker 3: A man. I appreciate your brother.
Speaker 1: I catch you. I have a great night. Good night. Okay,
Speaker 1: we go take a break. Let's fill up these lines
Speaker 1: and get everybody in at the end. The only lines
Speaker 1: that are open around now. We got two at six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 1: thirty last shot here at your recollection. You're a memory
Speaker 1: of the marathon from twenty thirteen. It was twelve years
Speaker 1: ago today. You forget about it, but it was. You
Speaker 1: forget the date, but you always remember what happened. Feel
Speaker 1: free to join the conversation. We will spend two hours
Speaker 1: on this tonight. I uh, it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that as long as any of us are alive, any
Speaker 1: of us are alive, it should never be forgotten. We'll
Speaker 1: be back right after this. It's Night Side with Dan
Speaker 1: Ray on Boston's news radio. Or have we got room
Speaker 1: for everyone? So stay right there. I'll get everybody in,
Speaker 1: starting with Larry down to the Cape. Larry next on Nightside,
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 4: Tough subject, Danne, and I can feal your emotions.
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 4: So can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I can hear you find go right ahead?
Speaker 4: Okay. So back in the late sixties, I lived right
Speaker 4: in the corner of Brighton AB and Commawealth AB. And
Speaker 4: I used to enjoy walking over to Karmouth AB watching
Speaker 4: the run has come because they had just finished Hot
Speaker 4: Break Hills.
Speaker 1: I remember that, Oh, I remember it very well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So twelve years ago, I'm at the house.
Speaker 4: I'm like in Dennis Sport doing the odd work, and
Speaker 4: my wife is sitting in the neighbor's house and there
Speaker 4: watching the marathon. She comes running out and she yells
Speaker 4: at me and she says, oh my god, oh my god,
Speaker 4: you won't believe what happened. Well, my son, as you know,
Speaker 4: as a Boston police officer, and we didn't know where
Speaker 4: along the course he was positioned. We called the phone,
Speaker 4: you didn't answer. We're holding our breast. We're going nuts.
Speaker 4: So then she says, we got to get in the car.
Speaker 4: We got to get out of here. I said why.
Speaker 4: I don't remember this exactly, but she reminded me there
Speaker 4: was rumors who were going to blow a ball of bridges,
Speaker 4: that they blow up the Sagamore Bridge. We're going to
Speaker 4: be stuck on the cape. Jumping the car and we
Speaker 4: get in. Finally, after about an hour, we reached my son.
Speaker 4: He was positioned in Kenmore Square and he started running
Speaker 4: towards towards everything. But he was okay.
Speaker 3: But what a night.
Speaker 4: I'll hang up and listen to everybody else's story.
Speaker 1: So if you were, if you were on Beacon Street
Speaker 1: back in the day.
Speaker 4: Well out at the corner of Brighton Avs and Karma
Speaker 4: and Calma.
Speaker 1: Okay, Brighton and Calm. So you were there in the
Speaker 1: late sixties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Demmbro Sound was right next to me, remember them.
Speaker 3: Yeah I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I'm just looking at the list of
Speaker 1: winners here. Amby Burfoot was a winner in sixty eight.
Speaker 1: There was a Japanese winner in sixty nine, Yoshi kai
Speaker 1: Yu and Natani you know those names. Community and so
Speaker 1: you didn't get to the Billy Rodgers races until seventy five.
Speaker 1: You get Bill Rodgers had four wins seventy five, seventy eight,
Speaker 1: seventy nine, and eighty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the man. I just used to like
Speaker 4: to watch him. That's five down because they only had
Speaker 4: what maybe another couple of miles to the finish line,
Speaker 4: so they were a.
Speaker 1: Little more than that. Little more than that. That was
Speaker 1: a good four or five miles from there, because the
Speaker 1: top of the mark that was about twenty Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I was down right at the curve where
Speaker 4: curves down over by Buya.
Speaker 1: I think that I watched. I watched I think Rogers
Speaker 1: in seventy five. I wasn't working in television at the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't start in TV until seventy six, but I
Speaker 1: watched Rogers kind of in that location with some friends
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five when he came by Boston, Billy
Speaker 1: Larry got to keep rolling here, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Is is Jill back safe in Cabul?
Speaker 4: I hope or you know she's here for another two weeks?
Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, excellent. Got to give me a call. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: talk to you later. I have a great mine ooky
Speaker 1: good back. Let me get Laura Lauro Junior in Lynn
Speaker 1: Lauro Jr. Welcome back. How are you hey?
Speaker 5: Thank you for the welcome back. I wish your true happiness.
Speaker 5: I wish all your listener is true happiness. Joe is
Speaker 5: one of my favorite calls.
Speaker 4: She's so cute.
Speaker 5: I was all they all true happiness. So that day
Speaker 5: I was I was about to leave my house to
Speaker 5: go to that to watch the marathon. I was just
Speaker 5: going to go to the finish line. But I was
Speaker 5: calling the neshew to see if he wanted to go
Speaker 5: to lunch. And he hardly never hangs out with me,
Speaker 5: and I told him, Hey, we're going to go to
Speaker 5: this restaurant, one of his favorite restaurants, and he's like, okay,
Speaker 5: let's go.
Speaker 3: So we went.
Speaker 5: I came back home like around one, I laid down
Speaker 5: and arrested it a little bit. My twin sisters texting me,
Speaker 5: where are you are you? Okay, well, how are you?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 5: I'm over here laying down. My cousin in Ohio too,
Speaker 5: said what's going on over there in Boston. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm like, let me put I put
Speaker 5: it on the TV. Oh whoa wow, Like that was
Speaker 5: like whoa, I cannot believe. I was about you and
Speaker 5: my next you said no to me. I was about
Speaker 5: to leave out of my apartment to go there that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just funny how decisions have made, Laura. It's
Speaker 1: as simple as that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Look, I got three more. I got to get to
Speaker 1: and call early, and I'll give you much more time. Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks Laura, appreciate the memory. Thank you you too. Have
Speaker 1: a great night. Okay, gonna try to get three and
Speaker 1: let me go first to Pete and Revere. Pete next
Speaker 1: on nightside. You've called a little late, go right ahead.
Speaker 7: Pete just came out to pay my taxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: but I'm gonna get the two wammies for you. Okay,
Speaker 7: On that particular day, my son is a professional clown,
Speaker 7: and he was doing a job for Big Corporation and
Speaker 7: the Mandarin at the end of the building and the
Speaker 7: windows right across the street. With the second one went off.
Speaker 7: We heard the first one, but he was by the
Speaker 7: window being curious. He put his face on the window
Speaker 7: to look to the right, and bingo, the second one
Speaker 7: went off and the here's the good thing. Most of
Speaker 7: the blast hit the building. That restaurant was destroyed. If
Speaker 7: you don't know, at the whole front of the restaurant,
Speaker 7: the cover of the pressure cooker took off like a
Speaker 7: frisbee right toward him. He watched it almost he went
Speaker 7: straight up and landed on the roof of the Mandarin,
Speaker 7: eight eight stories high.
Speaker 3: All right, never knew that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Now, when it's over, they threw everybody out. How
Speaker 7: would you like to be running or not running but
Speaker 7: walking dressed as a clown?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 7: Top the bottom?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 7: Yeah, where's here's the best time. He carries a tank
Speaker 7: of gas to blow up balloons. It's a balloom specialist.
Speaker 7: It's a bigger than a fifty two. If if you
Speaker 7: don't about underwater tanks.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 7: Now he's walking with a tank, dressed like a clown.
Speaker 7: And if you remember, the front page of every magazine
Speaker 7: and the newspaper showed Boston cops running around with guns
Speaker 7: up because they don't know what to do a where
Speaker 7: to go?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 7: I told him. He called me. I said, quick, take
Speaker 7: go back to the south end, right run down. There's
Speaker 7: a big, big liquor store. I said, just stay in there.
Speaker 7: They give you any trouble, attach yourself to a pipe.
Speaker 7: I said, I'll be there shortly, and and I went
Speaker 7: to pick him up.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 3: Talk about timing, Pete, I got.
Speaker 1: I hate to do this to your man. You called late,
Speaker 1: but I got two other folks.
Speaker 7: I got to give you something to hear you boys,
Speaker 7: all right. A friend of yours said, hey.
Speaker 1: Call more off and I know who this is. All right, Pete,
Speaker 1: thank you much. Doct you assume Rick and Bill Rick
Speaker 1: and Ricky got to help me out and be quick?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Absolutely. I was leave my friend's house in South Dartmouth.
Speaker 9: I saw him for the weekend, and I was on
Speaker 9: the highway at the time that I heard it, and
Speaker 9: I was listening to b Z radio, which I've been
Speaker 9: listening to since nineteen ninety two when I was at
Speaker 9: Framingham State College, so I heard it there and then
Speaker 9: I had to when I worked for the town of
Speaker 9: Bedford as a custodian, I had to clean the depot
Speaker 9: bathroom and then that's where I went after that, and
Speaker 9: I wasn't able to see it on TV until later on.
Speaker 9: But later on that week, I remember cleaning the bathroom.
Speaker 9: I cleaned it a couple of times a week, I
Speaker 9: think a Monday and a Friday or something, and this
Speaker 9: woman was freaking out because there's an if sworn caught
Speaker 9: yet and she was she was walking around that where
Speaker 9: I was cleaning the bed and she goes, I'm so scared,
Speaker 9: and I told her to relax. Everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 9: They're going to catch them and you're gonna be able.
Speaker 3: And they have the.
Speaker 9: Shootout the night before anyway, but she was freaked out,
Speaker 9: and I just remember telling her everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 1: You just well, that's your voice of reason, that's for sure. Rick,
Speaker 1: I got to get one more in here. Would you
Speaker 1: please call a little earlier, say I give you more time, thanks, Matt.
Speaker 2: I tried I'll call.
Speaker 1: Talk to you later. Okay. Scott is in every Scott
Speaker 1: next on Nightside. I got about twenty seconds for you, Scott.
Speaker 1: What can you do with it?
Speaker 5: None of the bombing at the race.
Speaker 2: I was homeless, living in a cow listening to it
Speaker 2: on A ten thirty.
Speaker 5: And my personal about that they you both die?
Speaker 1: Your personal what my personal thought that is?
Speaker 5: You're both be executed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. On thatt I'm told, well, one
Speaker 1: has already gone, he's gone to his reward or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's put the other guy in the same place. Scott.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you very much. To the callers
Speaker 1: on the line, I apologize, but I'm flat out of time,
Speaker 1: flat out of time. Done for the night. Rob, Please
Speaker 1: explain to them they got to call earlier. All dogs,
Speaker 1: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pal
Speaker 1: Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
Speaker 1: where all your pets are her past. They loved you
Speaker 1: and you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
Speaker 1: Hope to see you in tomorrow night on Nightside. Everyone
Speaker 1: want to thank Rob, want to thank Marita, want to
Speaker 1: thank all the calls even those who called late, and
Speaker 1: I'd ripe to remind you have a great Wednesday. Everybody
Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow night. I will be on night
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Speaker 1: about two minutes. I'll see you there. Thanks. Everyone, be safe.