WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:06.120 It's nice eyes. I'm going you Razy Boston's News Radio. 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.320 Thanks very much, Dan Watkins, as we move into our 3 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:16.239 fourth and final hour here on Tuesday night, April fifteenth. 4 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:19.960 Tonight is the twelfth anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombing. 5 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:24.640 That bombing, of course, occurred on what was Monday, April 6 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.839 fifteenth in twenty and thirteen. And what I'd like to 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:35.200 do is give you an opportunity to reflect on maybe 8 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:40.000 where you were, what experience you might have might not 9 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:43.119 have had. I have a bunch of open lines here, 10 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:45.079 so I'm going to just give the number out one 11 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.439 more time, and if you don't want to talk about 12 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:53.079 the bombing and the loss of innocent lives and the 13 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:56.600 fact that the Boston bomber number two is still alive 14 00:00:56.799 --> 00:01:04.519 in Colorado in the Supermax prison. By the way, In 15 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:10.519 twenty twenty, bomber number two's death sentence was reversed by 16 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.480 the US Circuit Court of Appeals sitting here in Boston, 17 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:21.599 First Circuit, and they found that the judge, Judge O'Toole, 18 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:27.239 who's a really good judge, George O'Toole, experienced judge, had 19 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.920 not properly screened all the jurors and how much they 20 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:31.719 had heard about the case. Well, let me tell you, 21 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.480 everybody heard about that case. There's no question about that. Okay. 22 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:40.200 So as a result of that appeal, the First Circuit said, okay, 23 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.719 we're going to get rid of the death sentence and 24 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:47.519 also eliminated three I guess of the thirty convictions against 25 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.799 Boston Barber two I don't mention his name, and they 26 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:56.280 ordered a new penalty phase jury with fresh jurors, leaving 27 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.560 the decision of a new change of venue to the 28 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:06.519 district Court. The remaining conviction still carried multiple life sentences, 29 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:10.080 ensured that he would remain in prison irrespective of what 30 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:13.240 happened well. The US government appealed this ruling to the 31 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.919 US Supreme Court, who heard the case in March of 32 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:23.599 twenty twenty one. It was argued appealed in March of 33 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:25.240 twenty one, it was argued in front of the court 34 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.639 in October of twenty twenty one, and in March of 35 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:31.520 twenty twenty two, the Supreme Court reversed the decision of 36 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:37.120 the First Circuit and reinstated Boston Bomber's number two death penalty, 37 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:42.960 and tonight he sits in the in Colorado in what's 38 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.560 called the supermax prison, along with some of the most 39 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:52.039 some of the worst criminals in the history of this country. 40 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:57.520 As I mentioned initially incorrectly, I thought that Joe Biden 41 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:03.159 had basically filed an executive order. He actually commuted the 42 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:08.520 death penalty of thirty seven of the forty inmates on 43 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:12.759 federal prison. He has no authority over state prisons and 44 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:17.000 state death penalties, and they have been during President Trump's 45 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:22.039 time in office. Some state executions have already occurred. So 46 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:26.159 at this point, I don't see what's holding up the 47 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.759 White House and the Justice Department from making a move 48 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:35.960 on Boston Barber number two. Again, as we discussed last week, 49 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.560 I had a conversation with my good friend Harvey Silverglade, 50 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:41.840 who was in ultimably opposed to the death penalty in 51 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:46.080 any case because it sets a precedent and if there 52 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.680 could be an innocent person who would lose their life. 53 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:55.719 So again, I fully totally respect Harvey Silverglate. No one 54 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.719 who I respect more than Harvey Silverglade in the legal community, 55 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.439 but I disagree with him. And this is a case 56 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.680 with there's not a sintilla of doubt. It's not a 57 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.000 question of beyond a reasonable doubt. There's not a sintilla 58 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:14.479 of doubt that Boston bomber number two was clearly one 59 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.079 of the two men who planted these bombs on Boylston Street. 60 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.240 And they are aggravating circumstances to plant those bombs with 61 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.439 the ball bearings, the steel ball bearings inside, which were 62 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:29.680 intended to kill and mame, which they did. Anyway, let 63 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:31.600 me go to Warren in Fall River. Let's start it 64 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:36.319 off here in the eleven o'clock hour. It's a sad anniversary, 65 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.639 but it's one that I think needs to be remembered. 66 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:42.839 Warren in Fall River. Warren, you're next first up this hour. 67 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:44.720 Thanks for holding through the news. Go right ahead, Warren. 68 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.920 Hey, Dan, Yeah, just one. You know, I remember that 69 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:55.800 day vividly. I used to I mean, if I had 70 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.519 stayed in Boston, you know, like I had, I used 71 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.240 to work right across from where the finish was in 72 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:09.360 on Barleston Street, and you to overlook the finish line there. 73 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:14.600 So but I got transferred a year like a year 74 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:20.240 before down to Providence College. So if if I think 75 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.800 it transferred down to Province College, I would have been 76 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.879 right there at the finish line, and you know, when 77 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.800 I worked in Boston, I watched many, many of the 78 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:37.160 races from you know, from months from the window overlooking 79 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:39.199 you overlooking the race. 80 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.959 Yeah. So well, you just never know how how your 81 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:48.519 life works out. You think about the people who you 82 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.600 think about the people who were in the wrong place 83 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:59.800 at the wrong time. Yeah, you know, uh, they are 84 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:03.319 the people who were there five minutes earlier and left 85 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.120 to go to lunch and they were spared. 86 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:05.600 Yeah. 87 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:09.959 I mean, it's it's absolutely it's like the roll of 88 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.519 the dice, I guess would be the only way to 89 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:12.360 describe it. Warren. 90 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:17.720 Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And and just just a comment on 91 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:22.399 what Biden did you know with the commuting of thirty 92 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:30.439 seven murderers. Yeah, all right, Yeah, that that just, you know, 93 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:35.519 is hypocrisy at best, because what did the left run on, 94 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.759 What did the liberal left run on this past thing 95 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.759 was abortion? You know, I mean the right to kill, 96 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:47.360 you know, the right to the right to have an abortion. 97 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.720 No, I understand, Well that's been the position for a 98 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:52.279 long time. 99 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.639 Yeah, and I understand hypocritical that they want to defend 100 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.680 like the murderers, but you know, they don't want to 101 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:02.600 defend the innocent. 102 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:07.000 Yeah. Well again, that's an issue that is one that 103 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.439 people feel deeply on on both sides of the spectrum, 104 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.920 and I think that there's no middle ground there, and 105 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:20.720 I just I want to focus tonight on the bar 106 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:23.480 you know that sort of thing. So I understand what 107 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.160 you're saying. What Biden had made a pledge that he 108 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:30.680 would eliminate the federal death penalty, and he made three exceptions. 109 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.079 One was the Boston bomber, One was the guy who 110 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:37.839 killed the black parishioners in Charleston, South Carolina, and then 111 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:41.839 one was the guy that went in and killed the 112 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:45.600 parishioners a Xury of Life temple outside of Pittsburgh. So 113 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.759 I commend him for not, you know, commuting those sentences. 114 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.079 But there were people in the Democratic Party who were 115 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:55.560 upset that he that he didn't commute those sentences too. 116 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:57.879 I mean, I don't get it. There were people on 117 00:07:57.920 --> 00:07:59.839 the far left who said, well he should. He prom 118 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.839 is then there were forty people on death row uh 119 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.480 in the federal in the federal system, and thirty seven 120 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.000 of them now are guaranteed to to to die of 121 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.879 natural causes or maybe at the hands of another inmate, 122 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.240 but they won't be executed by the government. 123 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.319 So yeah, they won't be executed. But also like if 124 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:22.319 you you know, if you remember back during those horrible days, 125 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:31.240 you know, son Son, I have actually went you know, 126 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.440 went to university down at ums Dartmouth, which yeah. 127 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.759 Oh yeah, no, absolutely, he went back there after the 128 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.360 bombing as a matter of fact, And and some of 129 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.399 his some of his roommates were people who I believe, 130 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.840 correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that 131 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.759 some of his roommates actually lied about his whereabouts and 132 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:57.519 some of them were convicted of of minor, minor crimes. Again, 133 00:08:57.559 --> 00:08:59.240 I'm not going to go into all the details, but 134 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.000 they were there were people even knowing, having known what 135 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.039 he did, they gave him, they tried to give him cover. Hey, Ron, 136 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:06.480 I'm up my break. I got to let you go. 137 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.879 Appreciate your call as always, you know that. Thanks BOM. 138 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.720 Talk to you soon, Thanks Warren. Okay, I got some 139 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.000 open lines here, and I'm going to talk about this 140 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.240 till midnight, with or without you. I hope you joined me. 141 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:19.759 Six one seven, two five four ten thirty one line 142 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:21.759 there and two at six one seven, nine three one 143 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:26.440 ten thirty. I don't want an event like this not 144 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:28.879 to be recognized and remembered. And by the way, if 145 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:30.679 there are people around the country who are listening, you 146 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:32.879 don't have to be from Boston who have been impacted 147 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:35.000 by this event. But I think those of us in 148 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:39.879 Boston were impacted by it more dramatically because all of 149 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.039 us have walked that portion of Boylston Street where those 150 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.080 bombs went off. People who are listeners and are listening 151 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.480 outside of New England, they may never have been to Boston, 152 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:53.879 so I know that they empathize with us as as Americans. 153 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:59.120 But these were people who were willing to just engage 154 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:04.080 in terrorist at activities at the marathon. Twelve years ago 155 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:08.480 today and twelve years ago tonight. This city was in shock, 156 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.720 This whole region, this country was in shock. But again, 157 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:16.080 it's the Boston Marathon, and that's what made it so 158 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.919 important to all of us. Feel free to join this conversation. 159 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.360 If you disagree with me on Boston barber number two 160 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:25.360 getting the death penalty, bring it on. We can talk 161 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:28.799 about it. I can respect your opinion, but I'm more 162 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:32.559 interested in your recollection of the day and what we 163 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:36.679 can do to make sure that something as horrific as 164 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.360 that doesn't happen again. I guess there's no way we 165 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.080 can guarantee that, but we have to do whatever we 166 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:45.240 can to prevent it from happening again. Back on Nightside, 167 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:47.679 join the conversation. We're here for you. Give us a 168 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:51.720 call back after this. You're on night Side with Dan 169 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:58.039 Ray ONBS Boston's news radio. All right, folks, got to 170 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:00.480 hear from you. Let's go to Scott and Quinn's. Scott, 171 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:02.000 you're next one night Side. Welcome. 172 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.159 Yes, Dan, good to be here on the show. 173 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.320 Good to hear your voice. Scott, go right ahead. But 174 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.600 I know you work. You work in a hospital, if 175 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.159 I'm not mistaken correct, Yes. 176 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:19.120 The hospital that was very much involved that day. And yeah, 177 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:25.200 I was on duty and I walk in from having 178 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.120 lunch where the mailman in the restaurant says, I think 179 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.960 something happened down at the at the finish line. And 180 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:34.759 I get get to the hospital, get in, and I'm 181 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:38.120 handed what's called the BAT phone, which is the phone 182 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:42.320 that my department takes calls from other people in the 183 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:46.120 hospital for for our services with helping with the technology 184 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.320 and the and the O R and and that's when 185 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.879 the casualties start coming in. So I'm on I'm handling 186 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.919 the bat phone and and helping the care teams, you know, 187 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.440 with the technology in the rooms, is the casualties are 188 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:04.759 coming in and being treated. But the thing that was 189 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:09.480 most amazing to me is, you know, in ther on 190 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.600 a day to day basis, everyone's commitsing, talking, doing doing 191 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.440 all the stuff that workers in any other workplace doing, 192 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.519 all with doing the amazing work that they do there. 193 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.360 And it was like someone flicked a switch and everybody 194 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.519 and the entire OAR turned into this machine that responded 195 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.039 to this mass casualty event and everyone was just doing 196 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.600 incredible work. All the emergency kits came out, all the 197 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:41.120 emergency procedures went into place, and the entire and just 198 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.120 seeing it all happen and being there and being a 199 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:47.519 part of it, and you know, getting called to a 200 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.960 room to help with this technology or being on the 201 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.480 phone and summoning the right people to the right place, 202 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:57.200 and well, the thing's got through it that day. 203 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.559 Yeah, the thing that must have been astonishing was obviously, 204 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.840 in any given day, you can have a horrific automobile accident, 205 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.840 you can have a shooting somewhere, but the number of 206 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.559 people who had to be attended to, you know, Obviously 207 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.480 you have you know, four people will three people die 208 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.679 at the finish line. So you have the three who 209 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:27.559 die at the finish line. Then you have dozens who 210 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:31.759 come in who have been I mean, I hate to 211 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.879 use the word maimed, I mean people who have lost limbs. 212 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.759 And then you have people who have other really bad injuries, 213 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:44.480 but they at least it must have been like what 214 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:46.279 it would have been in a mass unit in the. 215 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.519 Middle of war, Yes, exactly. 216 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.360 But it was amazing just to see the way my 217 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:57.440 entire organization at the flick of a switch turned from 218 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:01.399 like casual every day doing health care and living life 219 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:06.919 to an amazing emergency response team that just everybody pulled 220 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:08.360 together and got the job done. 221 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.360 But the root what I'm saying is the routine day 222 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.480 that it was up until two forty nine, which you 223 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.480 would have had some surgeries, you would have had this 224 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.120 and all of that. But all of a sudden, everything 225 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.440 is compounded dramatically, and that's what must have been an 226 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:29.240 amazing experience for you. Scott. Thank you for your service, 227 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.559 thank you for what you did that day. I'm awfully 228 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:33.559 glad you called because I knew that you had a 229 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.840 perspective that probably no one else would have had in 230 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.559 my audience, sort of an inside perspective. How long did 231 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:40.080 that work? 232 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.039 People on the gurneys as they were being wheeled in 233 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.440 to be taken care of, they knew that they were 234 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:46.279 in the right place. 235 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:50.919 How long did that work? How long Scott? Did that 236 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.480 work day continue? Obviously you must have worked well into 237 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:55.039 the most. 238 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:55.759 Into the evening. 239 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:57.919 Yeah, yeah, but. 240 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:02.200 I just from of the faces the most, Oh. 241 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.919 My god, yeah yeah. And then the people will come 242 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.120 out and who are now running the marathon, who lost limbs, 243 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:12.320 people who were ballet dancers, and an amazing group of people. Scott, 244 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:15.240 thank you so much for that recollection. That's an amazing story. 245 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:16.200 Thank you very much. 246 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.279 All Right, damn, but have a great night. 247 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:22.000 Let's go to Christine. Christine, I'd love to know where 248 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.480 you were, what your recollection of that horrific day is. 249 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:29.000 I was actually in the Faucner Hospital. I had a 250 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.360 knoscope that day, and I had just come out of recovery. 251 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.399 So they wanted to they told me what they told 252 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.080 us what was happening. So they said, would you mind, 253 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.159 We're going to get you up moving and we're going 254 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.639 to send you home. So I was like, that's fine. 255 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.720 They said, all the you know, all of the ambulances, 256 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:51.399 who are going to start calling up and everything. I 257 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.559 remember that exactly. 258 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:56.440 What what hospital were you locate? Where were you? 259 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.159 Fuck? U? 260 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.039 Yeah, they got their stats having patience there. 261 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:06.799 I'm sure that that. Yeah, that part Farctor was very 262 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:10.080 close and it's it's it's a it's a well equipped 263 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.879 hospital and yeah, I can just imagine they all day. 264 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.720 It was going to be all hands on deck. It 265 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:20.279 was an amazing week. It was an amazing week to 266 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.360 live in Boston. Between I remember later in the week 267 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:28.919 the car chase. That night I mentioned in the last hour, 268 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.320 I went to pick my daughter up at college in 269 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:35.600 Cambridge and uh, it was like I had no idea 270 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.200 what was going on, but all I saw was blue 271 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:42.759 lights heading down Memorial Drive. Uh, and it was like, WHOA, 272 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.600 what's going on? And then I put two and two together. 273 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.480 The shooting of the of the police officer Sean Collier 274 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.240 at m I T where they had. 275 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:58.039 The all the city all came together and just you know, 276 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.840 we all we all just you know, it was amazing 277 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:05.079 how the sating was banner and God bless America that 278 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:06.000 they caught him. 279 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:14.400 And I remember I remember the night, well the next day, 280 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.400 when they next evening, when they caught him, and I 281 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:23.079 remember the the order that that everybody, you know, shelter 282 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:25.599 in place. I had never heard the term shelter in 283 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:30.240 place before that, and you and it was like you 284 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.759 assumed I got to keep a look out the window 285 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:34.920 in case this this guy is going to break into mind. 286 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:41.160 Everybody personalized it. Everyone was unalert And it would be 287 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.759 nice if I just wish that somehow in those times 288 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.960 of crisis, everybody seems to pull together. But those times 289 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:53.519 of crisis, they they disappeared, they dissipate very quickly, and 290 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.440 then we're back at each other's throats. Unfortunately, my heart just. 291 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:01.359 Goes out to everyone that was involved, that that got killed. 292 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:05.559 So oh, it's just my heart is so sad, you know. 293 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:09.359 Ye again, we have to always honor their memory. I 294 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.079 know that there were ceremonies conducted today by officials in 295 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:16.799 the city and from the state, and we we can't 296 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.720 ever forget this. I mean, this is this is something 297 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.359 as dramatic to us and as personal to us. You know, 298 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.759 nine to eleven impacted a lot of families because there 299 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.599 were people who had relatives in New York and there 300 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:34.400 were people on those planes from Boston. Yes, but this 301 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.160 was we were ground zero. Boston was ground zero for 302 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.640 that day. It was thank you. 303 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.359 I don't know why they're keeping that terrorist alive. I 304 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.799 don't understand why has he not dead yet? 305 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:48.839 I don't understand at some. 306 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.960 At some point, I think this administration needs to needs 307 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.240 to address that issue, and hopefully they'll address it soon. 308 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:59.599 Thanks Christine, we'll talk soon. Thank you so much. Okay, 309 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.319 I got Bill in Chicago waiting, and Bill, if you 310 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:04.920 can hold on, I'll get you right on the other 311 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.880 side of the news robber. Just let Bill know he's 312 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.039 coming up next. And I got some open lines, folks, 313 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:13.440 Come on, come on, Uh, are your memories that short? 314 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:18.759 You don't recall that day? I don't know six one, seven, two, five, four, 315 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.400 ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 316 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:25.559 What are the lessons of that day? What do we 317 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.319 take from that day? Obviously we we hold in high 318 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:36.559 esteem the response, amazing response by police, by fire, by 319 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:40.759 emt UH people on the ground, by doctors, by nurses, 320 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.039 people who were called in a moment of crisis and 321 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:51.000 they responded. I'd love to hear from you in your recollection. Uh, 322 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:55.000 and again I'm more than happy to talk about why, 323 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:59.720 twelve years later, the Boston bomber number two, his name 324 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.799 will not be mentioned on this program by me. Why 325 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.799 Boston bomber number two still sits and gets three square 326 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:12.160 squeeze three meals a day and sleeps in comfort. It 327 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:16.680 is his time should have run out long ago in 328 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:20.039 my opinion, Back on nights Side, right after the news 329 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.039 at the bottom of the hour, my name's Dan Ray. 330 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:24.440 The only we got one line at six one, seven, two, five, 331 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:26.359 four to ten thirty and one at six one seven, 332 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.240 nine three one ten thirty. And if they're not filled 333 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.200 up by the end of the newscast and one is 334 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:33.720 only one left six one seven, nine three one ten thirty, 335 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.079 I would have been disappointed in my audience. Coming back 336 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:43.319 on Nightside, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's 337 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:47.759 news radio. This is the twelfth anniversary of the Boston 338 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:51.000 Marathon bombing. Let me go to Bill in Chicago. Hey, Bill, 339 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:52.799 appreciate you calling in. How are you tonight? 340 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:54.319 Yeah? 341 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:56.000 Not too bad and none too bad? 342 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:56.680 Uh? 343 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.480 If ahead of time, I get the stories of update 344 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.559 that the Irish family about your last name, but I 345 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:08.960 think it's Scottish. Uh, but that's another story. H Look 346 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:12.759 at I lived it on the country, and I've heard 347 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:17.440 people talk about the New York Marathon, the Chicago one. 348 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.799 They don't want to California. But my best memory, and 349 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:28.799 I tell people, when did the someone under send at 350 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:32.279 the time the first marathon ran and Bosston? I don't know, 351 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:35.640 but I was ten years old. I lived in Naty 352 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:39.680 and I was I couldn't wait the marathon day because 353 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.599 P used to go there and gives slaves oranges and 354 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:46.839 water the runners coming by. It was a hell of 355 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:47.480 a memory. 356 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:50.359 Yeah, tell well, you know, the first Boston Marathon goes 357 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.519 back to like eighteen ninety six, I believe, or eighteen 358 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:58.240 ninety seven, So it's been around a long time. And 359 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:02.920 I can't even remember listening as a kid in the 360 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.359 nineteen fifties, as a young young kid in the nineteen fifties, 361 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:12.400 on my grandfather's radio he lived in Jamaica plane and 362 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.920 my grandmother lived on Jamaica Plane. And it was not 363 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:17.920 on television. I mean, it was just it was just 364 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.720 a radio race. And you would hear someone who would 365 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:21.839 be reporting. 366 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:27.519 In US, yeah, about the New York and the Chicago. 367 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.839 By anyway, I never forget it, and it was a 368 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:35.680 big day in Naty. And the other thing I wanted 369 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:40.960 to say is there were two old runners, Johnny Kelly 370 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:43.079 and Clarence Tomorrow. 371 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:49.680 Yep, sure, well, well I interviewed Johnny Kelly many times 372 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:55.279 in the nineteen nineteen eighties and into the nineteen nineties. Sure, 373 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:59.440 and never met Clarence Tomorrow because I think he proceeded 374 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:04.200 Johnny Kelly's time. But there was Johnny Kelly and the elder, 375 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.200 and then Johnny Kelly the younger. There was the second, 376 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:09.839 Johnny Kelly out of Connecticut, who had the same name, 377 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:14.160 obviously fairly common name, and he I don't think he 378 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.720 won it, but you know, Johnny Kelly won the marathon. 379 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.000 I'd have to go back and look. But certainly like 380 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:24.119 in the late thirties, early forties, you know, and he 381 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:26.319 was running in those days there was there were no 382 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.880 prize money. It was you know, it was uh, you 383 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:37.039 got a a wreath, a victory wreath on your head, uh, 384 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:39.200 and and and a couple of beef stew and that 385 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:45.559 was it, you know. There and there were others, I 386 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.279 mean back in the back in the day, there was 387 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.960 a guy Tarzan and Brown, and I mean these were 388 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.160 guys in the you know, in the long in the 389 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:58.720 way back machine. But yeah, they there's there's been several 390 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.079 that that that we remember very well, and certainly Johnny 391 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.799 Kelly would be one of them. I'm just looking at 392 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.039 the list here. I don't know off the top of 393 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:12.480 my head, but Damar won it. I guess it was 394 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:16.559 seven times in the twenties and thirties. The last time 395 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.960 that he won it was nineteen thirty. And then Johnny 396 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.440 Kelly comes along and wins it in nineteen thirty five. 397 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:25.720 And he comes back ten years later and wins it 398 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.599 in forty five, so you know, he was and then 399 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:35.480 there was a different john j Kelly was the guy 400 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:39.119 from Connecticut. He won it in fifty seven. But Johnny 401 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.839