1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: What is up, fellowstickos. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,879 Speaker 2: I am Dan Valley coming at you with another NBA 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,759 offseason look ahead post draft edition. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,519 Speaker 1: We're onto the Dallas Mavericks. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,839 Speaker 2: I have the distinct pleasure of being joined by my 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,120 good friend, my colleague over at bleacher Report. He is 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,879 also a contributor for Forbes, Liberty Bawlers, Fan Sided, Silver Screen, 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,839 and Roll podcasts a bunch. 9 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:25,199 Speaker 1: He also still claims to be. 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: A process truster. We'll have to check in on that 11 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:31,280 and see what his status is there, mister Brian Tapoorak 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,079 before we dive in, sir, how the heck are you? 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: I am good hanging in there is sleep deprived like 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,240 all of us at this time of year, but draft 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,000 is uh, you know, draft and free agency or our 16 00:00:44,039 --> 00:00:46,479 time of year. So I'm excited to be here, thank 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,039 you as always for having me, and excited to chop 18 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:50,840 it up with you today. 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Do you like that there's more of a flurry of 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,880 I don't even want to say activity, but news breaks 21 00:00:58,479 --> 00:01:01,000 now that they've changed the rules where you can negotiate 22 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:05,799 with your own free agents. Because it on the one hand, 23 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:09,040 now we have things to talk about with other teams, 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,120 and there's news breaking on the other hand, it's there 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,959 used to just be like that little blip of quiet 26 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,040 before the free agency storm, and now we don't get it. 27 00:01:17,079 --> 00:01:19,560 And it also kind of makes you know, Austin Reeves 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,719 resigning with the Lakers. Yeah, we all kind of expected it, 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,359 but it just makes free agency itself even more anti 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,280 climactic than it had already become. 31 00:01:27,799 --> 00:01:31,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't really care as much. I mean, 32 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:35,879 maybe I'm saying this purely selfishly, but as someone who 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,680 is married to a doctor, June thirtieth, July first tend 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,959 to be a contentious time of year in our household 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,439 because July first is also the medical New Year, so 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,079 it's usually a busy time. So as you know, as 37 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:52,879 the slop starts dropping at six pm on June thirtieth, 38 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:54,959 im like I need to go retreat for six hours. 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,480 That usually doesn't go over so well in my house. 40 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:01,599 So I'm actually thrilled to have all this stuff coming earlier, 41 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:04,840 and it honestly helps just give you some perspective, Like 42 00:02:04,879 --> 00:02:08,599 the Reefs stuff in particular, like that was a major 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,520 domino that needed to fall for the Lakers, and now 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,879 we can kind of chart out, well, Okay, what's their 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,400 next step. What does this mean for their bigger picture 46 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:19,000 plans this offseason. It's nice to have some time to 47 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:22,759 think that through rather than you know, it comes six 48 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:26,159 o five pm June thirtieth and you're like, oh god, 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,759 what is you know? That is like Lebron signs thirty 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,879 minutes later and you're like, I didn't even have time 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,039 to process the austral Races thing. Let's move along. 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:35,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get. 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,319 Speaker 2: I guess my main complaint is I need the news 54 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:39,719 to come in a more reasonable hour when I'm trying 55 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:42,439 to start an off season schedule. Just the Yannis trade 56 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,319 coming in at after eleven Eastern time or whatever. 57 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I remember the Cat trade got me. 58 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: I'd taken an edible and it came through with like 59 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,759 just randomly. 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,159 Speaker 1: That was a late Saturday night. 61 00:02:52,719 --> 00:02:55,479 Speaker 2: Campfront offices just like, let's shut down it. I'm up 62 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:56,319 pretty late. 63 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,479 Speaker 1: During the season, the playoffs and of course during the 64 00:02:58,479 --> 00:02:59,400 height of free agency. 65 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: But there are other like let's shut it down by 66 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:05,719 like ten, We're gonna go about our night. Yeah. 67 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: I know. Everyone was just fully anticipating the honest trade 68 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:12,000 coming through on Monday night and then it's still hit. 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,840 I forget it, Like, what time exactly eleven thirty ish. 70 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,360 I was like, ugh God. I literally told my wife, 71 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,639 I'm like, please hope it either comes at like three 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,639 am or just at nine pm, because if it comes 73 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,400 in this window, I'm going to feel compelled to stay 74 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,840 up to write about it. And thankfully I was already 75 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,840 writing about the Julius randall things, so I did not 76 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:34,039 did not do the honest thing that night. But yeah, 77 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,960 I'm fully on board with like midnight Eastern is the 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,520 hard cutoff. We cannot conduct any league business after that. 79 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:47,199 Speaker 2: But the Dallas Mavericks, let's i'll run through their cap 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,000 vitals or their off season vitals really quickly so that 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,319 we'll set the baseline for what we'll be talking about 82 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,759 the rest of this podcast. They are about thirty six 83 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:59,240 million dollars below the tax and forty four almost forty 84 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,280 five million below the first apron. That's with fourteen players 85 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 on the books. That includes both their first round well 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,000 both their first round picks, which ended up being number 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,439 twenty five at Sergio, and then of course Morris Johnson 88 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:14,719 Junior also includes options for Ryan Nemhard and AJ Johnson, 89 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,839 and the Brandon Williams hold does not include any holds 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,079 for Chris Middleton, Marvin Bagley, Dwight Powell. 91 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,199 Speaker 1: I know that's a rough one, et cetera. 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,639 Speaker 2: So they're projected to be able to work with the 93 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,959 fifteen million dollar non tax player mid level exception. 94 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,759 Speaker 1: They also have. 95 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: The Anthony Davis TPE that expires on February fifth. It's 96 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,560 worth twenty point eight million dollars. In terms of notable 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,759 free agents, I would argue not many, just Chris Middleton, 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Marvin Bagley, Dwight Powell, Brandon Williams, who they do have 99 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:46,000 full bird rights on. Musasise is a non bird restricted 100 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,720 free agent, and Ryan Nemhard has that two point two 101 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,279 million dollar team option. They've got a few interesting extension candidates. 102 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,040 Derek Wivey, the second is eligible for his rookie scale. 103 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:58,240 The maxes are on screen if you're watching, but I 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,879 don't need to I don't think he's getting the MAX. 105 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:04,160 Don't need to go through those. Mac Christy is extension eligible. 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,079 He could sign a four year, ninety two point eight 107 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,319 million dollars MAX that would kick in twenty seven to 108 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,600 twenty eight. Naji Marshall is eligible for the same extension. 109 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Their first round pick. 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,199 Speaker 2: Overview, they're twenty twenty seven, they don't control their own 111 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:19,279 first round pick again until two thoy thirty one. That's 112 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,079 the gist of this, But they owe twenty twenty seven 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,000 to Charlotte with top two protection, twenty twenty eight swap 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,199 rights with Oklahoma. Oklahoma City has swap rights with their pick. 115 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:31,920 In twenty twenty nine, their pick will go to Houston 116 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:35,639 or Brooklyn, but they do have the Lakers' unprotected first 117 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,000 round pick. Then in twenty thirty they owe San Antonio 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,519 swap rights, but they do have That's where I was 119 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:43,319 trying to figure out the other night where the top 120 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,079 twenty protected Golden State pick had gone. 121 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: It is in Dallas, So they they have that. 122 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to start here, Brian with for Dallas, which 123 00:05:56,199 --> 00:06:01,279 is just basically excuse me as I'm choking. Are they 124 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:06,879 like one of the NBA's prime sellers heading into the offseason, 125 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,639 just based on everything EUJII has said talking about being 126 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,399 future focused for the most part, they did hire Dusty 127 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,360 May as their next head coach, and they also like 128 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:21,319 their flirtations were with other coaches that were going to 129 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,040 be more in the first time realm of the spectrum. 130 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that kind of signals. They're really just 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:29,959 all big picture. 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,519 Speaker 2: And even when you look at positionally, they draft more 133 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:35,800 As Johnson and now Naji Marshall is still on the REDPJ. 134 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Washington is still on this team. You have Gaffer, you 135 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,959 have Derek Lively, Flag. There's just a ton of bodies 136 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,720 in that four or five area for them. Do you 137 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:46,959 think they profile as one of the more interesting or 138 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,680 should I say active sellers of this offseason? 139 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would makes sense for them to 140 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,000 do so. I don't know that they'll feel pressure. I 141 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,879 don't know that they have to move all of these 142 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:01,160 guys this offseason. Like maybe they go into next year 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,079 and see how the season goes and then we can 144 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:08,560 reevaluate the trade deadline. I mean, as you brought up 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,920 like Clay is on an expiring deal. Now she's on 146 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:14,920 an expiring deal. Caleb Martin has a nine point four 147 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,920 million dollar player option twenty seven to twenty eight, but 148 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:20,439 it's also a small enough contract. I don't think it would be. 149 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,839 Speaker 1: He's extension eligible. Do you think he'll get better? 150 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: Oh definitely, yeah, But you know, these guys are just 151 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:31,720 not aligned developmentally with Cooper Flag and now more As Johnson's, 152 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,839 So I think that's kind of the the focus is 153 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:38,560 like we are fully turning the page toward the Cooper 154 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,839 Flag era. I think Kyrie would be the obvious, you know, 155 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,879 like all these other guys are fine. You know, you 156 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:49,319 might get a couple second round picks for them, but 157 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,600 you're not going to get a massive haul for any 158 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:55,120 of them. Kyrie is the one where, you know, I 159 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,079 think that's you see how the dust settles. Johannis has 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,680 already moved, but that you know, John Morant could be 161 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,759 on the move this off season, Kawhi Leonard could be 162 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:05,839 on the move of this off season, Jalen Brown could 163 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:08,079 be on the move this off season. So you know, 164 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,160 you might not be super you know. Messiah's basically said 165 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,040 like we do want to see Kyrie with Flag, and 166 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,040 I think it could make sense to keep him there 167 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:22,680 going into next season. But we've also heard like Detroit 168 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,079 is really after shooting right now, and if they strike 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,079 out on Tyler Hero and Trey Murphy and Kobe White 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,959 and some of their other targets, do they get desperate 171 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:34,679 and do they call Dallas. I think you keep the 172 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,759 phone lines open, and you should make it clear you're 173 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,679 open for business. I would even say you should be 174 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,360 willing to take back some negative money if it means 175 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,679 getting extra picks or prospects. Since you've still got Cooper 176 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,919 Flag for three more years on a rookie scale deal, 177 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,240 like this is the time that you can kind of 178 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:54,200 be aggressive with how you build the team around him, 179 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:56,720 even if it means, you know, we take on bad 180 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:00,000 money now and we were able to have more assets 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,879 to kind of replenish the coffers that we have already drained, 182 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,159 at least when it comes to first round picks. 183 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:10,759 Speaker 2: What what ends up being the value of Kyrie Irving 184 00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:12,840 right now? I kind of want to see him play 185 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,639 with Cooper Flag with That might say a lot about 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,120 the deficit of like spacing still on this team. What 187 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:22,159 do you accept as an like Kyrie aged going into 188 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:25,039 his age thirty four season, coming off the ACL injury. 189 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:27,960 The contract is totally fine. We know what Kyrie can be, 190 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:30,759 which is just like he could be. You want him 191 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:32,600 on the ball, like kind of running the offense, or 192 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,440 you want him off the ball like Detroit you mentioned 193 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,720 them could be perfect next to Kid Cunningham. But as 194 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,759 the MAVs, what do you accept for him? Because right 195 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:43,000 like if there's an offer built around a first round 196 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:45,679 pick and Ron Holland from Detroit. Let's say, I think 197 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,919 that's one that's been popular, It's been thrown about. Is 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,919 that enough for you? Or if you're Dallas, you're kind 199 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,039 of sitting there. One we'd like to see if he 200 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,480 can augment Cooper Flag and just some of the other 201 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:57,200 players on this team and maybe bet that his trade 202 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:00,120 value could be higher at the deadline or is or 203 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,360 is that package or it's equivalent? Is that enough to 204 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,279 get you thinking at this point? 205 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: You know, assuming obviously they'd have to throw in more salary. 206 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:13,080 I think ISAA Stuart would be presumably included in there. 207 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,440 I would imagine Duncan Robinson might be as well. So 208 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,200 you're adding some shooting that you would need, especially with 209 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,559 Kyrie gone. You know, if it's really a package of 210 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,559 like Stuart, Duncan, Robinson, Ron Hollands and a first yeah, 211 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,639 I'm at least considering that. I mean, it's hard to 212 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:34,720 move big contract like Kyrie. I mean, it's thirty nine 213 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:37,080 point five million, so we're not talking like, you know, 214 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,200 fifty five for Giannis or anything like that, but it 215 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,919 it becomes more difficult to move those contracts mid season 216 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,279 once teams are dealing with hard caps, and you know 217 00:10:47,399 --> 00:10:50,240 a lot of them tend to push pretty close up 218 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:53,320 to whatever aprin their hard cap. Too. You have more 219 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,080 flexibility in the offseason, you have more roster spots, so 220 00:10:56,159 --> 00:10:58,320 it's easier to swing these big like three for one, 221 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,919 four for one deals. Those types of things get trickier 222 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,519 during the season two. So you know, I don't know 223 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,600 that that framework Dallas definitely agrees to, but I think 224 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:12,279 that's the type of thing they should be open to 225 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,279 considering at least. 226 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: Do you have any we've talked about Detroit. Do you 227 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,960 have any teams that you think would be interesting fits 228 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,440 for Kyrie? 229 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Detroit would definitely be one of them. 230 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,399 Speaker 2: I don't see a pathway to Minnesota getting a deal done, 231 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,440 although if they did put the twenty thirty three pick 232 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,879 on the table, they've already attached what would have been 233 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:38,960 their primary salary. 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: Though. 235 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: I guess they could span the Julius Randall trade as 236 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,240 we're recording this, but it doesn't seem like they want 237 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:46,000 to do that. It seems like they're going the route 238 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,159 of trying to save money. 239 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate to say it, I will preface this 240 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:57,159 by saying they should not do this. 241 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,279 Speaker 1: Who's they Dallas or team you're about to name. 242 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: The team I'm about to name. But I could also 243 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:10,360 see them doing this the Pelicans. 244 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: They were they've been having. 245 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: People said that they could be a Joan Brown team too, 246 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,360 So that would seem to be right up their alley. 247 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: Right exactly. I mean it's a fair point, though there 248 00:12:19,279 --> 00:12:22,360 really aren't a ton of obvious landing spots for him. 249 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,120 You know, teams either have point guards or you know, 250 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:29,440 like Brooklyn and Chicago are just rebuilding right now. I 251 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,919 don't really see the point for either of them to add. 252 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: Does Miami go conditional twenty nine pick plus Wiggins plus Jovich? 253 00:12:40,279 --> 00:12:42,159 And do they have anything else that they could include 254 00:12:42,159 --> 00:12:44,039 a swap? Does that get it done? And they could 255 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,840 just have three players on their team after that? 256 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: Honestly, that might be the price. Just getting off of 257 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:54,399 Yovich alone might be the price. Yeah, I mean the 258 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,240 other one would be interesting, right sure, Houston would be Yeah, 259 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,879 and I guess you can do who I mean, is this. 260 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:04,279 Speaker 1: So fred van vleetops and I'm assuming he has to 261 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,759 be Yeah, that's part of that. 262 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:08,879 Speaker 3: And then like Jabari Smith, or include Tari Easton and 263 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,559 the sign and trade or something like that. 264 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're wow. That's actually it feels all 265 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:16,919 of a sudden, like a lot for like no picks. 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,559 Maybe maybe they can. I can't see them giving up Jabbari, 267 00:13:19,759 --> 00:13:23,159 but maybe Tari. He'd be interesting in Dallas. 268 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. Orlando is another one that I could see it, 269 00:13:27,799 --> 00:13:31,840 just because their offense still did not get on track 270 00:13:32,039 --> 00:13:35,639 last year, but they're already just so expensive that I 271 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,759 guess this could be one where if it's a James 272 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:42,519 Harden situation in Cleveland, where like you're acquiring him with 273 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,480 the intention of re signing him for you give him 274 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,320 another multi year deal that's going to be less than 275 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,080 the whatever forty two million dollar player option that he 276 00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:53,559 has next year, like if you think you can get 277 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,679 him back at thirty million, Like Orlando is just already 278 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,519 dealing with some financial concerns and it's only going to 279 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,440 get next year. So I don't know how they make 280 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,039 that work financially long term, but I think the fit 281 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,120 could make sense there and he could help elevate an 282 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,480 offense that desperately needs to be elevated. 283 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Are you trading Baine or Suggs? 284 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: In Matthews sugs, I would think, yeah, which you know 285 00:14:19,919 --> 00:14:23,279 deprives you of some point of attack defense, like you 286 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,639 hope Anthony Black can pick up the slack there. But 287 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:30,919 and then you know, you could include like Jonathan Isaac's 288 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,960 partially guaranteed deal something like that. 289 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,399 Speaker 2: I guess after bringing back Seag McCollum and drafting Kingston Fleming, Atlanta. 290 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Would be off the table. 291 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: They do still have some they could stack salaries to 292 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,960 get there pretty easily, but I'm assuming they're appetite for Kyrie. 293 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,320 He was probably lowered with those transactions. 294 00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:51,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like Washington doesn't make sense with Trey Charlotte, 295 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,600 Like that's the problem. So many teams have established point 296 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,240 guards that that already just wipes out almost half the league. 297 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: And I can't see Toronto would be interesting, but I 298 00:15:02,759 --> 00:15:04,600 can't see them being a Kyrie team. 299 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. At Phoenix, maybe. 300 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Let's just resign Gillespie so you're gonna yeah, I think 301 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,759 they keep him is what ends up happening, is what 302 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,159 I'm basically getting at. 303 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:18,759 Speaker 1: What's up? 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I just know that you've 311 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:41,960 promised to do a standing backflip if enough people subscribe. 312 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:44,639 Speaker 3: So that's in addition to everything Dan mentioned and all 313 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:47,159 the other perks you're gonna want to sign up for that. 314 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: And now back to the show. 315 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: I also wanted to ask you do they have any 316 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,320 interesting extension candidates of the WARLD because they're in this 317 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,480 weird spot where some of the players who are extension 318 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,440 eligible you don't know, like a Nause Marshall is helpful, 319 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:02,519 but is he part of your bigger picture? I think 320 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:05,440 the two that stand out to me Kayleb Martin and 321 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:11,080 Clay top No are Max Christie and Derek Lively. The 322 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,759 second Who's like, do you who's the most interesting of 323 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:17,559 those two to you? Do you see either one of 324 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:19,240 them get it? Would you give either one of them 325 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,799 an extension? I think it's especially fascinating when you look 326 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,519 at Derek Loively second just doesn't have one a huge 327 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:27,600 sample size in general relative to being in the league 328 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,919 for three years. But like, you know, what is he 329 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,240 like outside the Luka Doncic bubble is still a question. 330 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one would just be so tricky, 331 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,320 especially with the injury history too. Like I can't see 332 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,600 them signing him unless it's a team friendly contract. And 333 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:48,000 I guess we'll see how like free agency plays out 334 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,559 with Mark Williams next week, but I mean, worst case scenario, 335 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:55,720 he becomes a restricted free agent next offseason, and you know, 336 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:00,639 just historically, restricted free agency tends to work against the players, 337 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,960 drives down the prices, teams don't want to preserve their 338 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:09,359 cap space. Maybe next summer is different because like in theory, 339 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:12,200 Honest and Jokic could become free agents. But I'm going 340 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,880 to go out on a limb and say Honest is 341 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,880 not available in twenty twenty seven. I think he's going 342 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,640 to sign the extension with Miami, so that already wipes 343 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,880 some spending power off the board. Jokic has made it 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,119 clear he wants to stay with the Nuggets. We just 345 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,680 go through this cycle every year of like, oh, this 346 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:29,960 next free agent class could be great, and so many 347 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,359 teams are going to hoard their cap space and not 348 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,440 spend it, and then you get to free agency, it's 349 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,279 like three teams have cap space and you know, so 350 00:17:38,519 --> 00:17:42,880 I'm guessing that Lively unless he's willing to sign a 351 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,039 team friendly deal, they say stay healthy. If you do, 352 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 that's great. I hope you can get a good offer 353 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,319 shooting free agency next year and we'll be willing to 354 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:55,880 match it. But we're not paying you thirty plus million 355 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,200 dollars right now based on the hope that you can 356 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,799 stay healthy. You need to prove to us, and you 357 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:03,559 need to prove that you fit next to Cooper flag 358 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:06,240 and whereas Johnson long term before we make that kind 359 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,319 of commitment. Because we already have Daniel Gafford signed for 360 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,680 three more years, we don't necessarily need to go splurge Unlively. 361 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:16,160 So I think, just by process of elimination, Max Christie 362 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,759 is the more interesting extension candidate. I don't know that 363 00:18:19,839 --> 00:18:24,839 he gets anywhere close to the full max that he's offered, 364 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,359 but he did quietly have a pretty solid season for them. Yeah, 365 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,839 he was much more you know, I feel like with 366 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,119 the Luca trade, it so much focus was ad and 367 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,119 the pick, but as it turned out, Max Christy was 368 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,720 actually a pretty quietly important part of that trade too. 369 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I agree with you on lively for sure. 370 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I do wonder. 371 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: What I guess is what would constitute a team friendly 372 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,119 deal in that if he just wants to lock down 373 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,599 long term. What if he came in is that I'll 374 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,240 signed the Daniel Gafford contract, which is let's say three 375 00:18:57,279 --> 00:18:59,319 for sixty or something. Is that a number that gets 376 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,799 you thinking as the Mavericks or have you not even 377 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:04,680 seen enough to say, oh, I can commit because Gafford 378 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,279 was three for fifty four was his extension? 379 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:11,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think somewhere in that ballpark makes sense. I mean, 380 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:17,240 that's just kind of like at above average starters are 381 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:20,759 making twenty five to thirty when it comes to centers. 382 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,559 So there's a chance that you get him at a 383 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:28,000 pretty significant discount if he does stay healthy, and then 384 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:31,680 you know, whether you keep him, move Gafford, or you know, 385 00:19:32,279 --> 00:19:34,599 re sign him with the intention of trading him later 386 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,720 and getting positive trade value out of it. I think 387 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,799 that's but twenty million is probably where I stop. And again, 388 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:45,200 just you know, you know that pretty much everything is 389 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,920 working in your favor in terms of the market dynamics. 390 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,440 If you can't come to an agreement with him, you know, 391 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,920 if he wants twenty five to thirty, say that's great, 392 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,880 but you don't want to be trapped in like a 393 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,799 Yaka Pertol situation. I guess getting at where Toronto signs 394 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:02,920 him to this contract and all of a sudden he's 395 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,480 effectively I want to say, untradable, because everyone is tradable, 396 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,319 but you're not getting positive value for getting off of 397 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,640 Yaku perto Right now. 398 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: Max Christie is fascinating in the sense I think I 399 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:20,039 might give him the four for ninety two, the one 400 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,400 hundred and forty percent of the estimated average player salary extension, 401 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:26,559 just as someone who's three and d and trying to 402 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,079 do a little bit off the dribble isn't going to 403 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,039 make plays for others. 404 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: And if you're him, you have to sort of. 405 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:34,839 Speaker 2: Be looking at well, Christian Brown is worth five years 406 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,039 and one hundred and twenty five million. What like, isn't 407 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:40,160 Max Christie better than Christian Brown right now? 408 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Right now? 409 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: And he's still Max Christy's still pretty young. He's twenty three. 410 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look at Christian Brown right now, 411 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,240 like the Nuggets are already feeling some financial pinch, whether 412 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:55,160 it's him or Aaron Gordon or Cameron Johnson, Like they're 413 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,680 gonna have to move off of one of those guys 414 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,960 this summer, and it sounds like there's not much appetite 415 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,799 to take Christian Brown on that contract, although the length 416 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,359 might be the bigger issue, Like maybe they can get Christy, 417 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:09,279 you know, they're willing to pay that price, but not 418 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,079 over that long of a deal. Maybe it's more of 419 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,480 a two or three year. 420 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,559 Speaker 1: Exception if you're the Mavericks. 421 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: Though, in kind of knowing that so much is left unfinished, 422 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,559 you're trying to figure out so much right now? Are 423 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:26,960 you interested in extending Max Christie? Do you view the 424 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960 miss up like he just feels like he fits whatever 425 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,319 iteration they're going to gravitate towards. 426 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: So I would I'm curious to just because it's a 427 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:33,880 new regime. 428 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,799 Speaker 2: They didn't trade for Max Christy, and they are over 429 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,480 indexing on just like size and length right now when 430 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,319 you look at how the roster is built. 431 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:46,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that there's necessarily a 432 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,319 hurry to do, so I think you can see how 433 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:52,640 the season plays out and then you know, you've got 434 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,079 this exclusive window after the finals end, if you want 435 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,759 to go that route, Like, I don't think it needs 436 00:21:58,759 --> 00:22:01,160 to happen before the season. I think you should see 437 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,920 kind of how all of these new pieces fit together 438 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:08,039 with Kyrie, without Kyrie, whatever the case may be. I 439 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:10,440 would And if they move off of any of the 440 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,119 vets like that could open additional opportunities for Max Christie. 441 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,880 So you know, again, like if you move off or 442 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,000 if you extend him, now there's a chance that you 443 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:26,680 got him on a deal that looks better in retrospect 444 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,000 if he's willing to take something and then moves into 445 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:32,160 a larger role. But I think the Mavericks just have 446 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,920 such a relatively blank slate after this season, and I 447 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,200 would like to if I were running the team, I 448 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,920 would I would want to preserve that as much as 449 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,480 they possibly could, because we have this generational prospect in 450 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:48,720 Cooper flag who I think he's going to attract free 451 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:52,640 agents at some point that I would not want to 452 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,880 cut into my spending power or my potential spending power 453 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,240 down the road. Like Max Christie's a really good player, 454 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,680 I don't know that he is definitely a long term 455 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:05,319 piece of the puzzle. Alongside Cooper Flag, and I would 456 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,039 want and a more data before I made that type 457 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:08,599 of decision. 458 00:23:10,319 --> 00:23:13,759 Speaker 2: So what is this roster need to you when you're 459 00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:16,880 kind of looking at maybe not maximizing the present, but 460 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,799 optimizing the personnel that's already in play or the most 461 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,759 important personnel that's already in place. 462 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say just more shooting in general, more playmaking. 463 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,400 If Kyrie is not part of the long term picture, 464 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,680 I know you're going to run a lot of the 465 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,880 offense through Flag, but like the Flag as point guard 466 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,400 experiment did not work out as they hoped. I'd say 467 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,400 those are probably the two biggest needs I'm trying to 468 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,799 look at. Yeah, I mean, the MAVs were twenty ninth 469 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:49,559 and made threes twenty seventh and three point attempts twenty 470 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:52,880 six and three point percentage last year twenty second and 471 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,559 assists per game, so you know they're they were a 472 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:00,319 great rebounding team. The offense was mediocre, but that's just 473 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,680 comes with the territory of being kind of in transition 474 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:06,839 last year. As they were, pace was good. I mean, 475 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:11,960 they'll improve defensively as especially if Lively stays healthy this year. 476 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,559 But I think to optimize Cooper Flag, you're gonna need 477 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,920 more shooting and more playmaking around him. You don't want 478 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,720 him to be the primary play creator as well. 479 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be interested to see if they because I 480 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:29,880 know you have Lively, I know you have Gafford, and 481 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,759 I know you also have PJ. 482 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: Washington and Morris Johnson right now. 483 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:35,039 Speaker 2: I would like to see if they could get maybe 484 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,519 a floor spacing big as well. So if you play 485 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,079 lineups with Cooper Flag at the floor plus a floor 486 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,799 spacing big that's not PJ. Washington, that maybe has a 487 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:44,440 better size than PJ. 488 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Washington. There not something. 489 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,519 Speaker 2: I'm willing to let me go spend a ton to 490 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,960 do it or give up one of the few assets 491 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:53,400 like draft assets that we have to do it. But 492 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,279 that would be a look I would like them to see. 493 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:57,599 In addition to just generally, I think they definitely need 494 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,599 another ball handler on this team because Kyrie, even if 495 00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,279 he's he's not part of the long term plan just 496 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:06,480 looking at his age, he can't be What does he 497 00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:08,359 look like coming back from the ACL injury? How many 498 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960 games does he play? And after that you don't want 499 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,759 you know, Ryan Emhard, Brandon Williams, assuming he's back, Max Christy, 500 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:17,920 that's just not that's not enough, and it puts undue pressure, 501 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,200 I think on Cooper Flag at that point, which is 502 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,279 why there's I'm a I am a big believer in 503 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,160 even if you go out and sign a veteran with 504 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,680 your non tax MLLE, if they can help we're trade 505 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,640 for a veteran using that, If they can help streamline 506 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:37,640 life for Cooper Flag, it's all right. Maybe they're not 507 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,920 part of our long term, but if they can help 508 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,799 streamline life for Cooper Flag, that ends up being a 509 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,359 pretty big and other guys on the roster, of course, 510 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,200 that ends up being a pretty big deal. I don't 511 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,480 know if there are any targets that's bring to mind 512 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,799 for me, because it feels like, especially with Messian Charge, 513 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,759 that they're not gonna like we're not they're not gonna 514 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,119 serve a name and then try and go out and 515 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,200 get that name on the trade market. 516 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: They seem like they'd. 517 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:08,599 Speaker 2: Be more likely to be a team that, Oh, are 518 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,720 we taking just someone back because we decided to trade PJ. 519 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,680 Washington or would they you mentioned this at the top 520 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,640 of the podcast. Would they be willing to take back 521 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,720 some bad money that's attached to a sweetener rather than 522 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,640 let's go out and can we figure out a way 523 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,759 to get Kobe White or someone along those lines. And 524 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:31,039 so that's what makes their off season a little like 525 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,519 top seed Turvey for me. But just looking at guys 526 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:36,839 who might fall through the cracks. Maybe he doesn't provide 527 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,720 enough ball handling or playmaking for others, but Anthony Simons 528 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,960 might be someone whould be interesting on this team. I 529 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,000 think he'll probably fall in the non tax MLI range 530 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:51,599 unless the Chicago really does it up with him. 531 00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he'd be very interesting. Yeah, I mean 532 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,440 that's I'm curious to see how many teams wind up 533 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,039 spending the full mL you know, I think we've kind 534 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:10,480 of seen that a lot of teams will enter the 535 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,880 offseason with it, but they'll save it either for a 536 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,319 trade exception or to spend on some free agents during 537 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,039 the season, like whether it's after the buyout market or whatever. 538 00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:25,400 So you know what, there are always guys who slipped 539 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,559 through and who wind up being less expensive than we anticipate. 540 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,720 This year, we're already hearing, you know, some teams like Detroit, 541 00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:40,079 I know, has come up as a team that you know, 542 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,759 was apparently trying to make a run at Austin Reeves 543 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:44,960 before the Lakers resigned him, So like there will be 544 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:48,799 some team that manufactures spending power that we're not necessarily 545 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:54,319 anticipating right now. I don't know that I love the 546 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,920 fit of Tyler Hero right that I'd want to give 547 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,960 up like premium assets for Tyler Hero. But I would 548 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,400 imagine that he's available. I don't really see why the 549 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,799 Bucks would keep him because he's about to be a 550 00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:16,039 free agent after this year, you know, would I don't know, 551 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,519 Like I'm trying to think what would get you in 552 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:24,480 that salary range Klay Thompson and Derek Lively gets you 553 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:31,400 about twenty five million. Is that enough for Tyler Hero? 554 00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:36,039 Maybe not. But I wouldn't want to give like multiple 555 00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,920 first round picks for him or anything like that. 556 00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:42,559 Speaker 2: No, And they don't have obviously they don't control their 557 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:44,079 own I don't think you look, I guess if it's 558 00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:47,920 that Golden State top twenty protected pick, you talk yourself 559 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,559 and do it right. 560 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, because that's not conveying. Yeah, I mean, 561 00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:59,480 Steph will be how old man. Yeah, that I'm going 562 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:01,200 to go out on them and say they're not going 563 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:06,240 to finish in the bottom ten in twenty thirty. So yeah, 564 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:09,599 I mean I would I don't even consider that a 565 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,400 real significant asset for them, Like, that's just you could 566 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,200 throw that in and if you can trick some team 567 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,160 into thinking that's a real asset, that's great here. Yeah, 568 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,240 oh yeah, we give a first round pick for sure. 569 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,039 Speaker 1: Hero would be interesting. 570 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: I wonder if they would be concerned about his next contract, 571 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,680 especially because if you're the Bucks, you got to be 572 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 a little bit furious about that Tray Young deal because 573 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,279 it almost makes Tyler Hero harder to trade because any 574 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,079 team might be looking saying, well, Trey not that Trey 575 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:40,279 Young's not a better player to speak, but if Trey 576 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,680 Young is out here getting max money, do we think 577 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000 we're gonna get Tyler Hero cheaper than the thirty three 578 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:49,000 million he's on the books for this coming season, And 579 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:50,880 so that's going to now factor into I would think 580 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,839 his trade value with any team. 581 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a fair point. Maybe you just 582 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,680 chalk it up to the Wizards, but again, I like 583 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:06,920 it sounds like based on reporting that teams are now 584 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:10,759 scared of this new lottery system and the scared of 585 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:15,200 the new relegation zone. So that was why teams were 586 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,759 being ready to offer Trey younga MAX. I like, I 587 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,240 don't know what team. You know, Brooklyn Chicago were really 588 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:23,720 the only two teams that could have made. 589 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: That, just based on the way they traded for Julius Randall. 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,480 I know they they're different positionally, but functionally they both 591 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:34,039 can be on the ball. I'm assuming it was Brooklyn. Yeah, 592 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:35,640 that's just going to be my guess. 593 00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:41,359 Speaker 3: I would hope, so I really just but still, but 594 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,319 all that said, like I do wonder if whichever team 595 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,759 trades your hero then thinks, yeah, if we don't plan 596 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,440 to re sign him to a Max or a near 597 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:53,519 Maax in twenty twenty seven, some team is going to 598 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,480 want to what the relegation zone is going to throw 599 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,799 him too big of a contract that we don't feel 600 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:00,599 comfortable matching. So there are a lot of cancers with that. 601 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,119 But you know, just when we're talking about like available 602 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,279 guys who would address their needs for shooting and playmaking. 603 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,359 Speaker 1: He is Oh he's there. 604 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's the first that came to mind. 605 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: Do you think how much would it cost to get 606 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,880 either Scottie Pippen Junior or Ti Jerome? 607 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,319 Speaker 3: Probably not a ton. 608 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,039 Speaker 2: I mean Memphis I think Scottie Pippen Junior probably takes 609 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:30,960 a first round pick. I'm not gonna lie in which case, 610 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,559 if it's more than that gold I give up the 611 00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,640 Golden State pick for him. 612 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,519 Speaker 1: But beyond that, no. 613 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: Because he's under contract for two more years. 614 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: And he's he's too I would argue he's too cheap. 615 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:45,640 It's just so fricking cheap. 616 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then how Ti Jerome Ti drones only one year, 617 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,880 has got a nine point seven million dollars player option 618 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,000 in twenty seven to twenty eight, which could go either 619 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,200 way on whether he picks that up. Yeah, I mean, 620 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,039 if sure, if they're willing to take the fake twenty 621 00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,319 thirty pick, what does it turn into if it's not, 622 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,200 if it doesn't convey it, it's just like two seconds, 623 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:11,359 or is it just the obligation is gone. 624 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,079 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not two seconds. 625 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't I'll double check that, but the obligations automatically over. 626 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: What does it turn into? Though? Yeah, that's a good, 627 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,240 good question. 628 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,119 Speaker 2: So Dallas's pick that they're getting from Golden State in 629 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,240 twenty and thirty, Oh yeah, just one second. I didn't 630 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720 think it was to twenty thirty second though, sure, So. 631 00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and who knows what the draft is going 632 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,240 to look like in twenty thirty. 633 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:41,119 Speaker 2: Would you, because I'm assuming he would this team because 634 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,880 the team he's on it is just so inexplicably expensive. 635 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,519 Would you take on a league monk if you're Dallas 636 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,119 man he would fit? 637 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: Or actually does he miss it? What's the size that 638 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,160 Anthony Davis trade? He does? 639 00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: I think he fits into the Anthony Davis tpe. You 640 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,559 have enough remoder, the touch, you could just take him 641 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,039 and maybe you're getting something else in exchange for that. 642 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I think that's a very smart and 643 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,400 viable thing that they should be exploring. Like if another 644 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400 team is desperate to offload money and you can fit 645 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,640 him in, Yeah, that's actually a great shot. It looks 646 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,319 like he just fits, but he should fit, so yeah, 647 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,519 I think so. I mean, he's twenty point two this 648 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:27,519 year and then it's twenty one point six million dollar 649 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,200 player option next year. So worst case scenario, he picks 650 00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,279 up the option, he's off your books. You know, well 651 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:37,279 before you have to worry about Flag's rookie scale extension, 652 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,200 and he would help you with shooting in the meantime. Yeah, 653 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,400 I'd be intrigued. By that. 654 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:48,559 Speaker 2: In terms of free agents, if they're just looking for 655 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,400 a lower cost just option there, Collin Sexton could be 656 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,720 interesting in Dallas. Now depending on how much are you 657 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,880 worried about we want to actually get Ryan Nemhard a 658 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,119 bunch of minutes, then yeah, maybe that's not the you 659 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920 don't want to have you want to sacrifice his minutes 660 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,079 for someone like Colin Sexton. But as someone who can 661 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,000 drive and get downhill and space the floor might be 662 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,320 a pretty good option for them. Another Memphis tour Cam Spencer. 663 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,679 I don't know what it would cost to get him 664 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:18,239 out of Memphis. 665 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,199 Speaker 1: That'd be a good trade target for them as well. 666 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,639 Speaker 3: Do we think Kevin Porter Junior picks up his player option? 667 00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh what is that for? It's like three to nine. 668 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,559 Speaker 3: Point yeah, five point four. 669 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,039 Speaker 2: I mean he's kind of when you look at how 670 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,480 many guards that Milwaukee has right now, he's a little 671 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,599 bit buried, Like how invested are they in him? You 672 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:44,920 could have to look at it as a good thing 673 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,320 the setup, But like if Tyler hero is still there, 674 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,519 they have Brandon Burry's Ryan oh Man speaking of a 675 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,360 good fit, this cost you real stuff that Ryan Rollins 676 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,960 would be great. 677 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I would for Milwaukee's sake, I hope 678 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,840 they view him as a key. But he's also I 679 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,320 believe as a four million dollar player option next season 680 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,519 that he's obviously going to decline, so they only have 681 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:11,280 him for one more year at the hilariously low price 682 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,480 that he currently costs. Yeah, but yeah, I mean either 683 00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,559 of those guys. I mean KPJ does not address your 684 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:23,280 shooting concerns really at all. Like he can shoot the three, 685 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,880 he's not particularly efficient, but he would add scoring and playmaking. 686 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,079 Speaker 2: So I think the month the Monk theoretical move feels 687 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:39,639 very much like that would be the type of offseason 688 00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,320 we should expect from the MAVs. Not maybe even a 689 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,639 move that that's pricey because Malik Monk is making over 690 00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,360 twenty million dollars, but it's they find someone. 691 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Who is maybe not viewed favorably around the league. 692 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: Or whose team needs to cut Like what if Cleveland, 693 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,960 as for instance, is looking to like cut payrolls there 694 00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,159 as they have to re sign Harden, they don't want 695 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:01,559 to be in a second Apron next year. Maybe you 696 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,480 come in and get a Max Strus or a Sam Merril. 697 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,079 I wouldn't want Dennis Shuder but if Max Shrews or 698 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,320 Sam Merril are on the table, I don't even need 699 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,079 an asset to take on one of those guys. If 700 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,400 I'm Dallas, I just think that they'd be instantly helpful. 701 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, or I mean your New York Knicks. We know 702 00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:22,159 they are not trying to cross the second apron. If 703 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,599 Jose Alvarado picks up his player option, would they just 704 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,280 look to dump him. I don't think they would just 705 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,320 outright dump Miles McBride, But if they're looking to save 706 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,440 some money, would Dallas be willing to throw a couple 707 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:35,800 seconds from Miles McBride. 708 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: Conversely, they should if he's assuming he's not going to 709 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,320 be back in New York, they could take a look 710 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,239 at Landry Shammitt. 711 00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he just doesn't cost too much, he'd be 712 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,760 a great fit. 713 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: Oh this one, Isaiah Joe, Oh yeah, thunder or Roll. 714 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,000 Even Lou Dort, I mean he fits into that exception too, 715 00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:57,800 like they'd have to give up stuff for him. 716 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: But you actually a defense said as Cooper Flag, Lou Dort, 717 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:07,840 Morris Johnson, Derek Lively, the second Max Chris, that'd be nuts. 718 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good idea though, Like just 719 00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:14,400 look at the teams that are bumping up against whatever 720 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,920 apron or whatever hard gap or just like looking to 721 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,400 cut salary however they can. Uh. I mean, I wonder 722 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,559 if the Warriors, like now that would would you gamble 723 00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:30,760 on Moses Moody knowing he's gonna miss a good that 724 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,639 year basically, yeah, but signed for two more years only 725 00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:36,239 twenty four? 726 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of the three and D wing. He 727 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:39,599 would fit. 728 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: You would need something as Dallas to take on that 729 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,519 contract though, because he doesn't solve anything for you this year. 730 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: Right, And I don't know that Golden State is like 731 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,840 that eager to move off of him. But yeah, I'm 732 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,039 trying to think of any other team in the like 733 00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:58,119 Cleveland obviously, Denver. 734 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: They go. 735 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,559 Speaker 2: Would I mean, I don't know how much money they 736 00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,280 could save Denver. You probably need to rope in a 737 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,079 third team. But Cam Johnson feels he's not duplicative, But 738 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:13,920 there is just positional redundancy if you have Cam Johnson, 739 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480 but he does stuff that this team could need. 740 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, who else is super expensive? Those are the ones 741 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,920 that come to mind right away. 742 00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all like the Kings are expensive, But 743 00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,239 Monk would be the one, like you're not a Zachlovine 744 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,159 team as Dallas. I don't know who considers themselves as 745 00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:33,960 Zaqulavine team to be honest. 746 00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 3: Timberwolves, if you're I mean again like Dante DiVincenzo is 747 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,760 doing nothing for you. But if you can just into 748 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,679 your TPE and get something for that, would. 749 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean like maybe Phoenix wants to get out from 750 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,320 Grayson Allen or Royce O'Neill one of those guys. 751 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:56,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not want Jalen Green, No, I would 752 00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:58,880 agree with that if you can, yeah, I mean Grayson 753 00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:00,800 or Royce fit into the TP as well. 754 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,639 Speaker 2: This is more so I'm curious the Jazz play want 755 00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,000 real stuff for him, but just because I want to 756 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,760 the stretch element with the big man. But like Kyo Philipowski, 757 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,880 one of his role is going to be in Utah 758 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,639 moving forward. 759 00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 3: M h. 760 00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: That might be also even Bryce Sensaba or Shreim Mikaeluke, 761 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,760 both of whom are on the Jazz just as these 762 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,599 like Spacey Wings, you just have so many bodies now 763 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:27,039 in Utah with Keante, George, Darren Peterson, Marketing, Jaron Jackson, Junior, 764 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,920 Ace Bailey, I don't know what and then Cody Williams 765 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,280 is still there, so I don't know Bryce Sensabah and 766 00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:34,719 uh Shee Makaa. Look, I don't know what their roles 767 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,559 are going to be long term. I even have bones 768 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,079 Highland circle. There's a free agency target for this team, 769 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,760 just someone who might be cheap and come in and 770 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,320 dribble for the Jazz. 771 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,599 Speaker 3: Is Cody Williams a second draft candidate or are we 772 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000 just giving up on him already? 773 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 2: He had a stronger close to the year let where 774 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440 he looked like an actual NBA player, especially on his drives. 775 00:39:56,599 --> 00:39:59,760 But I don't know what Like now you have Ace 776 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,559 Bam and Darren Peterson and Morkan and jareds Like, I 777 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:04,360 don't know what his role on that team is, what 778 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:06,400 tops out at seventh man now? 779 00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:11,039 Speaker 1: Long term? So maybe yeah? But they should? Should Dallas 780 00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:13,159 be a Zachary Re team? Is he a second? 781 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: Does absolutely nothing that in theory, I guess he shoots. 782 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,719 I shouldn't say that it shoots in defense, so in theory, yeah, 783 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,079 do you have Do you have anything else on them? 784 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: Though? 785 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,039 Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be I don't know if 786 00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:31,920 they're gonna be heavy hitting sellers, but I think that 787 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,280 they're if anyone's looking for them to do something spicy. 788 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's gonna happen. 789 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna keep Kyrie and they'll be open 790 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,239 minded to everything else based on how they've gone about 791 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,000 their season off season so far and just the things 792 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,440 that Messi has has said. 793 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean, I'm with you. I think it's 794 00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:53,000 gonna be a relatively quiet off season for them, like 795 00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,079 I would imagine they spend the mL E shops and 796 00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:59,440 veterans around once the dust settles on all the big moves. 797 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,920 But no, I don't think I think they are being 798 00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:07,159 They're wisely approaching this as a kind of multi year 799 00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:11,320 retool around Flag. They do not feel imminent pressure to 800 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,800 get everything right right away, nor should they. You've got 801 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,400 this guy long term. Make sure you build it around 802 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:17,800 him right. 803 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,079 Speaker 2: Are you able just to tell our listener's audience where 804 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:24,559 they can find you in all the great work that 805 00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:24,840 you do. 806 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: Yes, you can find me at Blue Sky b T 807 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,960 O P O R E. K. As Dan mentioned at 808 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,440 the top. You can find just general NBA analysis, fans 809 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,159 sided and Forbes sports Sixers stuff at Liberty Bollers and 810 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,639 Lakers stuff at silver Screen and roll, including the latest 811 00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,000 on the Austin reeves and what it means for their 812 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,719 off season plans and more importantly, their mL plans because 813 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000 Dallas might not have to compete with them for a 814 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,239 non tax EML anymore. 815 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,199 Speaker 1: Brian, this was great. 816 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much until next time, and as always, 817 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,519 I leave everybody with the shout out to the one, 818 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,159 the only, the indelible former Dallas Maverick, mister Frank Nila 819 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,840 Keina