Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh no, some things are worth waiting for.
Speaker 2: It's me Cecily Knobler here with you, Stephanie say, I
Speaker 2: say hi to the Okay everybody, Hey everybody, I'm so mad.
Speaker 2: Stephanie has been texting me. She's agitated. Let's just say
Speaker 2: she's more agitated than I am about this episode. But
Speaker 2: I believe she is feeling what a lot of you
Speaker 2: are feeling. I'm feeling it, but just not as strongly.
Speaker 2: Stephanie's coming in hot today, and I don't know why
Speaker 2: because oh, good reason, good reason.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know why. Like it's not
Speaker 1: like I'm that disappointed. I don't care that much. I
Speaker 1: just think I just think that the writing of this
Speaker 1: show is absolutely insulting. I think it's that bad where
Speaker 1: it's like it feels Chatchypet, as we've said before, but
Speaker 1: not even as good. I feel like Chatchypet could do
Speaker 1: a better job, for sure. There's like little chatcha tea
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I mean we're we're pretty close. We're pretty close. Any
Speaker 2: macro notes before we like just tear into this episode.
Speaker 2: I mean I have one, Okay, it's the music. The
Speaker 2: music is the problem.
Speaker 1: With these shows.
Speaker 2: So if you have somebody doing something no matter what,
Speaker 2: if they're having sex or they're skulking around or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you have the like boom boom boom boom boom boom,
Speaker 2: which is constant, like the sneaky as we call it,
Speaker 2: I call it, I used to call it sneaky Disney music.
Speaker 2: We're speaking in and stealing the answering machine. Boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: We're so crazy, We're just girls, like the really bad
Speaker 2: rom coms of the nineties. Oh you left that answering
Speaker 2: miss you left that on Jake's aunt.
Speaker 1: We got it. There's no other way to do.
Speaker 2: It but to sneak in and steal it, hiding behind
Speaker 2: like wayes no, yes, yes, oh my god, Like that's
Speaker 2: what this whole show is. Yeah, it's also I also
Speaker 2: feel this would be a macro note.
Speaker 1: I guess. I feel like they introduce concepts or storylines
Speaker 1: and then they just leave them alone afterwards, which works
Speaker 1: if you wrap it up in an episode, if you're
Speaker 1: treating it like it's Seinfeld or something like that, but
Speaker 1: they're not. This is one of those things where we're
Speaker 1: telling a story over a whole season, but they're not
Speaker 1: doing that, It's like, okay, so Lisa's dad died, Okay,
Speaker 1: we and we wrap it up in an episode and
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so we're just totally I guess that's
Speaker 1: just done.
Speaker 2: She's good now, Yeah, she settled that, she went to
Speaker 2: therapy and everything ready to work.
Speaker 1: Everything is treated very sitcomly, like this whole thing with
Speaker 1: LT having a crush on her editor is treated kind
Speaker 1: of like a funny, like a joke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, everything, oh gohd you just wait, you just wait.
Speaker 2: And also, I mean there's so many what if they
Speaker 2: added a laugh track? Can you imagine? I almost want
Speaker 2: to make an episode and add a laugh track to
Speaker 2: for you and make you watch that, just a really loud,
Speaker 2: aggressive Seinfeld laugh track.
Speaker 1: I think you should do it with just random constant,
Speaker 1: like real loud, like real eighties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the and every now and then it's like
Speaker 2: a spattering of applause. But if you really pay attention
Speaker 2: to the show, it's the same exact sound.
Speaker 1: You don't even bother to change. Yeah, it's really bad.
Speaker 1: And then oh, also here's another thing. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: so and like maybe this will become clear, I don't
Speaker 1: know it. This is what it feels like to me,
Speaker 1: it feels like they're writing it as they go along,
Speaker 1: like nobody sat down and said, Okay, here's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. Here's the theme. Aiden is going to make
Speaker 1: her wait five years and there's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot of push and pull and he's going to be
Speaker 1: kind of tortured about it, and she's going to be
Speaker 1: changing her mind. No, it's just like, okay, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: now he's not waiting five years because now he so
Speaker 1: he was only going to be waiting five years if
Speaker 1: Wyatt was living with him, but now that why, it's
Speaker 1: living with Kathy. That's done, Kathy. We we just had
Speaker 1: an affair with Yees.
Speaker 2: This fucked is excellent.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the Aiden of it All.
Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry my voice is kind of shaky,
Speaker 2: I'm losing it, but like the Aiden of it All
Speaker 2: is just it's it's horrific, as we've said from the beginning,
Speaker 2: but it's just getting worse, Like it's trying my patience,
Speaker 2: Like why has this character ever been written? Why did
Speaker 2: any I sent Stephanie like I send you all these
Speaker 2: montages of old olden days, remember, because I was trying
Speaker 2: to explain to you how abusive he was.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course he slapped the.
Speaker 2: Nicotine patch on her.
Speaker 1: He's horrible. He's horrible. He's horrible.
Speaker 2: He's a cheating and he hits her and then he
Speaker 2: manipulates her to feel bad about it.
Speaker 1: And he's so corny, he's so manipulative. He's it's not funny.
Speaker 1: There's nothing likable about this character. And we're but we're
Speaker 1: all so. I don't know what we're supposed to believe.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, because I don't think the writers know either. Right,
Speaker 1: it's try to make us care about something that I
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Speaker 2: All right, hey, guys, let's get into this dumb ass.
Speaker 2: But I also loved it because I still at my core.
Speaker 2: I still find this show comforting in a weird way,
Speaker 2: and I don't really know how to explain that, but
Speaker 2: I do. I kind of still like seek it. I'm
Speaker 2: still excited, not excited, like overjoyed, but.
Speaker 1: Kind of exciting.
Speaker 2: Wat it.
Speaker 1: So I guess you were relieved that Aiden's back. So
Speaker 1: he comes in, He's got all these bags and here's
Speaker 1: this is a thing, this is this leads me, this
Speaker 1: is part of my macro note no reason, Yeah, never done.
Speaker 1: He does say. He says, okay, well Whyatt went to
Speaker 1: live with Kathy. We're going to find that out a
Speaker 1: little bit later. But that still doesn't explain why the
Speaker 1: five year thing is off right, Like, okay, so whenever
Speaker 1: it's convenient for him, since Whyatt isn't with him, I
Speaker 1: guess he's moving in, Like he doesn't even say like
Speaker 1: that just seems like a weird ass plan for your
Speaker 1: kind of ex sort of current boyfriend who's saying, wait
Speaker 1: for me five years to just show up. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: now I'm here for a month.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he's got okay, And so you know,
Speaker 2: the big joke was the callback to before when they
Speaker 2: were fighting when he moved into her studio apartment and
Speaker 2: he's like, why do you have all these clothes, Carrie,
Speaker 2: and he's like immediately going into her closet and telling
Speaker 2: her to get rid of like things that he thinks
Speaker 2: are kind of hoary. Remember there's one that's like a
Speaker 2: sheer top and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, when are you gonna wear this?
Speaker 2: And she's like, excuse me, don't mock the clothes. So
Speaker 2: that's the joke here where he's like, maybe you could
Speaker 2: take this little part. Oh, it's like emotionally abusive.
Speaker 1: He's pretty emotionally abusive. Yeah. Also, also this was let's
Speaker 1: not let's not totally skirt over the fact that she
Speaker 1: got carpeting for her stairs, which so does that mean
Speaker 1: she's in love with Duncan because she is so invested
Speaker 1: in not making noise like a guy that's gonna be
Speaker 1: there for six months? Who is this?
Speaker 2: Carrie Bradshaw? What are we watching again? And we come
Speaker 2: back to this all the time. So I don't want
Speaker 2: to like stay, you know, harp on the same Is that.
Speaker 1: The right word?
Speaker 2: Harp Yeah, you're so tired? Doesn't make sense. I don't
Speaker 2: want to, you know, beat a dead horse.
Speaker 1: But she was strong.
Speaker 2: I mean, one of the things we loved about her
Speaker 2: was she was a scrapper. She was strong, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that she has to stay a scrapper. I mean,
Speaker 2: I understand, she's in her fifties. She can have some wealth,
Speaker 2: she can have some you know, success.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: She always she was on her way, but not on
Speaker 2: her way to be a freaking billionaire. She just glides
Speaker 2: around this house like it's gray gardens. I don't recognize
Speaker 2: anything about the old show. There's nothing to recognize, right.
Speaker 2: Everybody else, I mean, Samantha's not there, but everybody else
Speaker 2: is kind of sort of the same. Miranda's obviously evolved
Speaker 2: in other ways, but they're still like the same person.
Speaker 2: What is Carrie? She's just like an a bend of her.
Speaker 2: I mean, so she's just all about these idiot guys
Speaker 2: that are like dicks to her.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess. So there's nothing like attractive about
Speaker 1: the way he's acting towards her right now. Awful.
Speaker 2: It's just awful, and it makes me so mad about her.
Speaker 2: And then you cut Harry with the big balls that
Speaker 2: must have made you so mad well before we before
Speaker 2: we get there. Yeah, so Carrie says that she's going
Speaker 2: to be getting notes from Duncan her on her latest chapter,
Speaker 2: and Aiden goes, what, why do you know you don't
Speaker 2: need notes?
Speaker 1: You're perfect?
Speaker 2: Okay, right right, yeah, that had already happened. Okay, so yeah, right.
Speaker 1: Why would he say you're perfect? And why would she
Speaker 1: put up with somebody who's like, you're perfect? He didn't
Speaker 1: read her book. She's not letting Aiden read her chapters.
Speaker 1: That's never even come up as something that they would say.
Speaker 1: So what anybody would see right through that.
Speaker 2: He's already being totally you're perfect. You don't need some
Speaker 2: guy who's duncan it's a guy. Oh, it's a guy.
Speaker 2: How old is he peering through the windows? Which we'll
Speaker 2: get to it's.
Speaker 1: But it's just so weird that he would It's so
Speaker 1: what do you not infantil that's not even the right word,
Speaker 1: but it's so condescending to be like, you're perfect, No,
Speaker 1: and no book is perfect. You're good, you're good, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, you don't need to do anything, you're fine.
Speaker 1: Imagine that was so weird.
Speaker 2: Guy, Like, you meet some guy and he's so cheesy
Speaker 2: and needs all these puns, but they're not even cute puns.
Speaker 2: Puns can be fine, but it's like exhausting, you know
Speaker 2: when you have to laugh, you know when someone's like,
Speaker 2: not that funny and they're just on all the time
Speaker 2: and you have to go, huh good one. Imagine, so
Speaker 2: that's the guy you're sleeping with, and on top of
Speaker 2: him being that guy, he's a controlling abuser. Well so
Speaker 2: now you have both yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And but also we as an audience are supposed to
Speaker 1: be believing that she likes this. How else would the writers?
Speaker 1: I mean, we're supposed to like him, right right? She
Speaker 1: dos like right now, yeah she does. She laughs at
Speaker 1: as stupid jokes. And but it's you know what it is,
Speaker 1: it's gaslighting to us that we're like, no, we all
Speaker 1: hate him. Everybody on Reddit hates him. No, nobody likes him.
Speaker 1: So what are we supposed to be feeling. It'd be
Speaker 1: one thing if we were allowed, if we were all
Speaker 1: in it together, like oh my god, you know how,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing charming about him to even help us
Speaker 1: understand what she sees in him. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I know, yes, exactly that. And you know
Speaker 2: it's so messed up. That's so upsetting. Is we finally
Speaker 2: got through the Chay years. We did it, yes with
Speaker 2: you guys, you really you messed up. You listened though,
Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, we hear you, we're gonna fix it,
Speaker 2: and then never mention jaeg it like just just killed
Speaker 2: them off. They're just gone, that never happened. Okay, good job,
Speaker 2: and now you've got to do it again, Like how
Speaker 2: can you keep messing up like this?
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's really disappointing Studford.
Speaker 2: You know, just like you'll just move to Japan never
Speaker 2: to be heard from again. Right, not even a less respectful.
Speaker 2: It's just respreadful to the real actor, like all those
Speaker 2: years that he put in. But they couldn't kill him
Speaker 2: off because they too many people have left the show,
Speaker 2: so they just have to. He just went in the night,
Speaker 2: left his marriage and all his best friends. Never occasionally,
Speaker 2: maybe she could get a letter from Stanford.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 2: She gets a letter and reads it and we can
Speaker 2: all feel a little something. Yes.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 2: Instead, it's just like an occasional text with Samantha. Hey,
Speaker 2: what was up?
Speaker 1: What time is it London? You're in London?
Speaker 2: You're Samantha used to be on the show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't understand it. Ah but Dobby, Carrie, you
Speaker 2: gotta get rid of this Aiden guy. I think they
Speaker 2: should just AI her voice in and have her say
Speaker 2: shit like that. He's so cheesy and Carrie, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that would be so funny.
Speaker 1: Did you imagine how mad that actress would be?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it would be Kim Katrell would lose
Speaker 2: her mind. She'd be like, I have never said okay
Speaker 2: to this, this was not my contract. And then Ahbo
Speaker 2: has to show her and they're like, yes it was.
Speaker 2: They weren't even talking about AI but a hundred to say,
Speaker 2: you know, it's in their contract, like you know, the
Speaker 2: layers wrote that shit. It was like, listen, the character
Speaker 2: is always going to be owned by Warner Brothers, right,
Speaker 2: There's nothing you can really do about it, so they
Speaker 2: can do whatever they want the ai her likeness. They're like, listen,
Speaker 2: we're allowed to Hi, carry it's me leaving a message
Speaker 2: on your voice mail. I'm in London. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you know that, but I hate Aiden. Bye Chow
Speaker 2: Chow's okay, all right, Okay, so Harry has big balls?
Speaker 1: Yes, did we get to that? And then yeah, we
Speaker 1: can get to that because they're they're swollen. But why, like,
Speaker 1: is that just his character? Is that just what they
Speaker 1: do is like he gets to just kind of be
Speaker 1: gross and like pee his pants and like talk about
Speaker 1: his balls all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is exactly what. But at least he's like
Speaker 2: true to the character. He's who he always was, So
Speaker 2: I don't it doesn't bother me as much. I guess
Speaker 2: A real a real thing. But then poor Lisa, she's like, okay,
Speaker 2: well in this scene, I have to bring you. I
Speaker 2: brought you some big balls and he's like big balls
Speaker 2: from a big balls.
Speaker 1: Well, it's also what first of all, she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I brought you macadamia.
Speaker 2: Nuts, right, big nuts.
Speaker 1: It's just a weird thing where you're like, okay, am
Speaker 1: I rude? Or is that just not something that like
Speaker 1: your friend comes over to like bring macadamia nuts because
Speaker 1: you hilarious had ball surgery. I didn't even think about
Speaker 1: it like that.
Speaker 2: Because that's just bad writing. It's like saying like I
Speaker 2: brought you matza balls or.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is like, this is one of
Speaker 1: my big complaints, as you know, is all of the
Speaker 1: punning is so they all do it though, right, there's
Speaker 1: no way that everybody's character loves puns, right, they can't.
Speaker 1: It's just not a thing like have you ever had
Speaker 1: everybody in your friend group makes like puns all the time. No.
Speaker 2: In fact, if I did, I would and be alive.
Speaker 2: I mean I would have just walked into the ocean.
Speaker 2: I have a couple and they're allowed, but like it's
Speaker 2: not it's not my favorite thing. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 2: can have the one, but yeah, that's Harry's thing. So
Speaker 2: Charlotte is just like so embarrassed though she's like, honey,
Speaker 2: she's okay, I'm gonna say something really controvert, like these
Speaker 2: don't get mad, don't come for me. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that Kristin Davis anything bad should happened to her. She
Speaker 2: seems like a nice person. But they need to kill
Speaker 2: off Charlotte. Just kill if you're gonna kill off bit,
Speaker 2: you got to kill off Charlotte. We can't have this anymore.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: That would be like an interesting storyline because like then
Speaker 1: Harry is like, wait, but I was the one. I
Speaker 1: was the one with surgery.
Speaker 2: But then she just yeah, I don't know, and then
Speaker 2: that's it, and then it's just Carrie and Miranda, and
Speaker 2: then and then Aiden dies, and.
Speaker 1: Then Steve has to be in the show a lot more.
Speaker 1: He's like, Mirinda, we're stuck with me.
Speaker 2: Now's like I can't handle this right now, Like all
Speaker 2: of my friends are like dying off Steve, Like, don't
Speaker 2: you care, Mirinda going on with Brady?
Speaker 1: Mariene, what do you care about? Brady?
Speaker 3: What do you care more about? Like your friend done
Speaker 3: than your son? Just like they have to kill off Aiden.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's off on a peloton.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wouldn't that be Oh my god. Somebody
Speaker 2: had the best idea and it was either on our
Speaker 2: rose Pricks or on Reddit. I think it was on Reddit,
Speaker 2: but either way, Okay, okay, this was someone said I
Speaker 2: would not it was I was on threads. Somebody's like,
Speaker 2: I would not be mad, And I think a lot
Speaker 2: of us feel this way. We would not be mad
Speaker 2: at the writers if they did the thing where it
Speaker 2: was all a dream and we find out Bigs alive,
Speaker 2: like in the next episode she dreamt all of this
Speaker 2: and Bigs just alive. It was just a bad dream,
Speaker 2: all of it. I would be fine with it. I'd
Speaker 2: be like I was gonna say that, don't threatn me
Speaker 2: with a good time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that idea.
Speaker 2: It's such a like it's and to just be like
Speaker 2: we own it again again, are bad? We had, we
Speaker 2: get two strikes, we had shaye, now we had this.
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna just start over one more time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they won't do that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay. So Charlotte and Lisa go for.
Speaker 2: A walk, right, you know you do all day when
Speaker 2: they have jobs.
Speaker 1: Just go for a walk. Yeah. And Lisa's like, I
Speaker 1: had a sex dream about my editor Marion. I was
Speaker 1: working on a farm and he was like my farm
Speaker 1: hand for some reason, and then he just like fucked
Speaker 1: me like animal style. Like it was like.
Speaker 2: Crazy, why now, why would I have a dream like
Speaker 2: that When I have a beautiful, sexy husband named Herbert
Speaker 2: Senior happening to me, it's fine, Like for some reason,
Speaker 2: this whole character has also changed where she's like everybody flirts,
Speaker 2: that's not Charlotte. She should be like stop that, that's rude,
Speaker 2: that's inappropriate.
Speaker 1: And do you remember her outfit In this Lisa's outfit,
Speaker 1: she's wearing what it looks like she's been tented for termites.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. And then it's got like a big
Speaker 1: elephant broach root out root. It's a brooch, yeah, brooch
Speaker 1: at her neck, but it's like humongous. It's like almost
Speaker 1: as big as her head. It's so weird. And why
Speaker 1: wouldn't Charlotte be like, yeah, I mean, like I understand
Speaker 1: going like yeah, it's normal to have a sex dream
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you think she would say more about
Speaker 1: it than.
Speaker 2: Like, of course yeah, and Joy would, Especially her character,
Speaker 2: she was always calling everybody out for cheating. She was
Speaker 2: very upset when Carrie cheated on Aiden with Big. She
Speaker 2: was mortified. She yelled at her a whole there was
Speaker 2: a whole scene about it where she's like, how would
Speaker 2: you feel you're the other woman, how would you feel?
Speaker 2: She's like, you don't even care, like you're so self centered.
Speaker 2: She like totally calls her out, but now she's just
Speaker 2: like it's cool, yevs okay. Then we coared the ejaculation
Speaker 2: in a condom immediately I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically we go to the gallery and Charlotte
Speaker 1: they have this this what do you call it? An
Speaker 1: exhibit in sort of a recreation of a seventies thing
Speaker 1: where there's like a mattress and there's going to be
Speaker 1: a nude model based down in bed and a big
Speaker 1: bottle of booze, and then they're trying to place a condom,
Speaker 1: a used condom.
Speaker 2: I kind of like this exhibit is that weird. I
Speaker 2: was scared to tell you that, but I actually was like,
Speaker 2: I'd go see that.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I thought it was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: It's not real spurt jizz that they're putting in that, right,
Speaker 2: but they all act like it is. I know, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, get it away from me. It's like mayonnaise. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now I sell that. They're like, we just want to
Speaker 2: show like how messy women were. Okay, so they're doing
Speaker 2: this whole exhibit and it takes apparently like seven of
Speaker 2: them to put it together right, just assistance. They're recreating it,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Charlotte gets vertigo right,
Speaker 2: and she's like.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my vertigo, it's back. I'm dizzy.
Speaker 2: I'm dizzy, and they're like, you can say. Someone says
Speaker 2: something about a jiz bag, which should definitely be the
Speaker 2: name of this episode, because someone says his bag, yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, be careful that you don't get
Speaker 2: on the jew's bag. Oh no, oh, yeah that was
Speaker 2: and the music was playing. You know how funny vertigo is.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are mad. I saw this on
Speaker 1: Reddit that that she was that they're like kind of
Speaker 1: making fun a vertigo, like making it like a really fun.
Speaker 2: It goes for real deal, Like it's I know older
Speaker 2: people who have had it and you think you're dying.
Speaker 1: It really is terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a like a hilarious comedy, you know,
Speaker 2: from a reed agreed, And she's acting like it's so adorable,
Speaker 2: like it's really for such huge laughs. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So Okay, now we're we're going to get into something
Speaker 1: that I got a lot to say about. So we
Speaker 1: got to Miranda's house and she always stops by for
Speaker 1: a visit, just comes to the door. She's like, hello,
Speaker 1: I came back for a kiss and a quick drink pooh,
Speaker 1: and she pulls out a big bottle of gin. This
Speaker 1: is it's like a cartoon. It's like a cartoon bottle
Speaker 1: of gin.
Speaker 2: And she's like helloin and she's handing to her.
Speaker 1: Now here's what I'm thinking at the time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: there is no fucking way that Miranda hasn't told her
Speaker 1: she doesn't drink.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense because Joy drinks a.
Speaker 1: Lot, right, So that's they've gone out many times. They're
Speaker 1: like girlfriends. Now, there's no way that Miranda hasn't told her. Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna turned out. It's going to turn out. Listen,
Speaker 1: Miranda's turned her life over around around, She's moved her
Speaker 1: she's adjusted a lot of stuff. She only got the
Speaker 1: apartment she got because it takes dogs, right, Okay, She's
Speaker 1: done a lot. So are we to believe that Joy
Speaker 1: is not going to accommodate Miranda at all? So I
Speaker 1: was I wrote to myself. I was like, there's no
Speaker 1: way she wouldn't have told her she doesn't drink. And
Speaker 1: then I wrote, Okay, apparently she did tell Joy she
Speaker 1: doesn't drink. And now that's even worse because Joy's like,
Speaker 1: oh you don't drink. I forgot Okay, how do you
Speaker 1: forget that your romantic partner doesn't drink?
Speaker 2: That's why I wrote how would you forget that? I
Speaker 2: literally wrote those words. However, I'm just going to give
Speaker 2: you a little peak. Is that what they're going to
Speaker 2: try to go. Where they're going to go with this
Speaker 2: is that it's that she thought she just didn't drink
Speaker 2: because it was not healthy. But she didn't understand that
Speaker 2: she was an alcoholic because Miranda doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Though, it doesn't matter. Drinking is like such a loaded concept.
Speaker 1: So even if you were like, it's it's no different
Speaker 1: than if I was to say like, well, I'm on
Speaker 1: a diet. I'm really on a diet, and you're like,
Speaker 1: can I just keep this giant chocolate chip cookie at
Speaker 1: your house?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I forgot you're on a diet. You don't mind though,
Speaker 1: if I keep this humongous chocolate cake. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to just house. I have a piece once in a while.
Speaker 1: But that won't bother you, right, Like, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: why she doesn't drink. She doesn't drink. So if you
Speaker 1: if your partner didn't drink and you brought it over
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I forgot you don't drink. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: well you would say like, no, that's ridiculous. I'm not
Speaker 1: leaving this at your house.
Speaker 2: No you would, yeah, of course, of course that's what
Speaker 2: you would say. You wouldn't be like, all right, so
Speaker 2: it's no problem. Then if this giant bottle of booze
Speaker 2: that I somehow fit in my bag can stay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it okay. I don't think the writers
Speaker 1: are meaning to do this, But this is another one
Speaker 1: of those things where I'm like, do you guys not
Speaker 1: think this through at all? Because that makes Joy horrible.
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's she's ridiculous, she's narcissistic. She's not about
Speaker 1: Miranda at all, So are we going to get another
Speaker 1: shitty girlfriend?
Speaker 2: But also who is Miranda?
Speaker 1: Who Miranda?
Speaker 2: Who is she? That Like she's just like, oh no,
Speaker 2: it's fine, Like all of a sudden, all these two
Speaker 2: strong women are just ridiculous. They're just like, no, no,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. Your needs for mine. That's not
Speaker 2: who Charlotte ever was. I know that she's new to
Speaker 2: like not drinking, and she's new to being like she's
Speaker 2: found someone, but it's just ridiculous, Like it's like a
Speaker 2: Three's company thing. Again, just say, I am an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: I can't have this here.
Speaker 1: That's it, right. But also we're gonna well, but we're
Speaker 1: going to come to the part where she's like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not an alcoholic, so I can I can
Speaker 1: actually understand from an alcoholics perspective. Not wanting to like
Speaker 1: pathologize yourself early on in the relationship to be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to make being an
Speaker 1: alcoholic my whole personality. I'm just someone who doesn't drink.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If I told you I don't
Speaker 1: I don't drink, and you said to me, like, but
Speaker 1: at all, and I was like, Nope, I don't. I
Speaker 1: do not drink, first of all, you would ask why.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't just be like, oh, so either I lie
Speaker 1: and say like, oh for health reasons, no reason. I'm
Speaker 1: just I just think I would ask.
Speaker 2: I've been in those situations though, where someone says that
Speaker 2: I'm going out with says they don't drink, and I
Speaker 2: don't ask why.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So let's say you're dating somebody and they
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned why, but you've been out with them many
Speaker 1: times and you've drank and they don't drink. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you would not there. There's a lot of steps involved
Speaker 1: to like, you stopped, you bought a big bottle of
Speaker 1: gin to keep it at your girlfriend's house, you're driving
Speaker 1: over there, you get there, you whip it out. At
Speaker 1: no point did you did it not occur to you
Speaker 1: that your partner doesn't drink, Like at no point between
Speaker 1: buying a big bottle of gin for your girlfriend's house
Speaker 1: and bringing it to her and presenting it right. It's
Speaker 1: just very weird to me and like selfish. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're trying to make joy great
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: Well that I don't know, but I do know that
Speaker 2: it's like the character is like if bad writing is
Speaker 2: that if they're they're here in the scene and then
Speaker 2: in between scene, it's like a computer. They're just asleep.
Speaker 2: Nothing's happened. There's no brain waves. Yeah, yeah, they're just
Speaker 2: sleeping like a Yeah, like a game, like a video game,
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 1: Black Mirror episode where nobody exists between their own scenes.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would be awesome. Let's make that.
Speaker 1: That's that's a Black Mirror episode.
Speaker 2: That's so good, Marianda.
Speaker 1: So Carrie and Aiden wake up in her bed after
Speaker 1: an afternoon of fucking, which is so I don't want
Speaker 1: to think about it.
Speaker 2: You have to it right now. Think about it right now.
Speaker 2: Whatever you're doing, close your eyes, think about Aiden's.
Speaker 1: In your face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never really all the way, you know, it
Speaker 2: just there. It's kind of half, which is even a
Speaker 2: little bit worse because then they're trying to use it
Speaker 2: and you're like, that's just not you know, all stages
Speaker 2: of sex with Aiden are awful. Like, I don't like
Speaker 2: after glow. After glow Aiden is a nightmare. Pre pre
Speaker 2: sex Aiden is a nightmare. I I don't like him here.
Speaker 2: He gives me the ick so badly in every scene
Speaker 2: I just kill okay scene Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Carrie's like, Harry's like, oh shit, it's seven twenty.
Speaker 1: It's time for me to go downstairs for my writing session.
Speaker 1: And immediately Aiden starts acting passive aggressive. He's like, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you got to eat in the house.
Speaker 2: She's like, okay, I have I think I just told
Speaker 2: you I have ten minutes I got to get downstairs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do you have to eat? Okay? She goes,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really have much, but like there's like a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff around, and he goes he looks at
Speaker 2: his phone and he goes, yeah. She's like, what's what's wrong?
Speaker 2: And he goes, don't worry about it. Never mind what.
Speaker 2: I hate him so much, so of course Carrie has
Speaker 2: to be like, no, it's what what's cool? I was
Speaker 2: a little noyed in Carrie here though, but she didn't
Speaker 2: know he was coming, right, or she did know he
Speaker 2: was coming, she did know. He didn't just show up.
Speaker 2: He didn't surprise her, like she knew he was coming.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't know how we say that, because she said,
Speaker 2: she's like, I meant to go to the store, but
Speaker 2: I didn't. And that made me mad because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he did give you some notice and you literally have
Speaker 2: no job. You're not doing anything except writing, like this
Speaker 2: terrible book that you write, like you didn't even write
Speaker 2: this episode barely.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well he I want to push back. Why wouldn't Okay,
Speaker 1: but what if he's coming to stay with her, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't he bring some food?
Speaker 2: Then we could bring some foodies so rich, he's a billionaire,
Speaker 2: order you don't have to instacart that shit. You have
Speaker 2: a that She did this with Miranda too, like get
Speaker 2: some shit in your house. You're hosting people. So I
Speaker 2: feel maybe it's this Texan in me. If you're inviting
Speaker 2: people into your home, you got to you gotta have
Speaker 2: some coke, not cocaine, like coca cola.
Speaker 1: No, you should have cocaine. People like to do drugs?
Speaker 1: Have you met people that are house guests? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just me and my house guests. They love cocaine.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, for whatever whatever, we'll put something about Kathy,
Speaker 2: some thing about with Kathy.
Speaker 1: And I can't read, so he goes so so she's like,
Speaker 1: what happened to me? And he goes, why it's not
Speaker 1: He's like, why it's not texting me nothing? I've gotten
Speaker 1: no text from Wyatt. And then she's like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: and he goes, Yeah, when he got back from Outward Bound,
Speaker 1: he decided he wants to live with Kathy. Why he.
Speaker 2: Liked and he's bringing it up now instead of earlier
Speaker 2: when she says she has to go.
Speaker 1: He's also manipulating with that one hundred percent. And didn't
Speaker 1: they if the if he called her to tell her
Speaker 1: he's coming, he obviously told her that the reason he's
Speaker 1: coming is because Whyatt went to live with Kathy? Right?
Speaker 1: And also would you not say, how would you if
Speaker 1: he's coming? Indefinitely? That never they never had they First
Speaker 1: of all, they supposedly talk on the phone all the time,
Speaker 1: so that that just never came up. The reason why.
Speaker 2: Never came up. And also let's not forget that he
Speaker 2: just had sex with Kathy and cheated on Carrie in
Speaker 2: many ways, and and he's now.
Speaker 1: Just bringing her up in conversation.
Speaker 2: That literally just had that conversation like yesterday or whenever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what time is here, but like two
Speaker 2: weeks ago what is and he's just like bringing up Kathy,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just like, anyway, I
Speaker 2: remember Kathy, the lady that I was married to that
Speaker 2: I just like fucked. Yeah, And I mean that you
Speaker 2: might not have thought it was cheating, but I've definitely
Speaker 2: told you that that was cheating. And she's not even
Speaker 2: asking about it. That's also weird that Carrie is not Yeah,
Speaker 2: can you not bring up Kathy right now? Like I
Speaker 2: get you know, I'm listen, I'm giving you a pass.
Speaker 2: I've cheated and you know we didn't have like all
Speaker 2: the everything ironed out, but like maybe just don't bring
Speaker 2: her up so casually right now? Yeah, but nope, wouldn't
Speaker 2: say anything. Also, how is he this surprised?
Speaker 1: What's wrong? No?
Speaker 2: Nothing, I just saw what was coming ahead and it's Adam,
Speaker 2: and I know you don't like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. But also like Okay, how are you this
Speaker 1: surprise that your son is not happy with you? He
Speaker 1: sent him to Outward Bound when he decided he didn't
Speaker 1: want to go. You're idea of like getting rid of
Speaker 1: the ADHD antisocial personality disorder is painting a barn twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day. He's making him do chores, and
Speaker 1: now you're shocked won't let him be on medication. And
Speaker 1: now you're like, I don't understand. I'm a great guy.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you want to live with me? Because you're
Speaker 1: a dick to him?
Speaker 2: Right? And she's like, I have to go to my work,
Speaker 2: my version of work.
Speaker 1: I gotta go.
Speaker 2: I do these writing sessions, although she is being a
Speaker 2: little weird about it, like she could probably didn't you
Speaker 2: just get there now, Listen, I'm not defending Aiden, but
Speaker 2: there could be a moment where and then I guess she.
Speaker 1: Does just such to them all afternoon though that's true
Speaker 1: all day, all day they've been in bed having sex.
Speaker 1: She can't go for an hour to her freakin neighbor's house.
Speaker 1: So she goes, okay, all right, I'll cancel on Duncan
Speaker 1: and we'll go to dinner. And he goes like this,
Speaker 1: Oh are you sure? Oh my godkay, great? Great? Oh?
Speaker 1: How I mean everybody is more selfish than the next
Speaker 1: person on this show, well except for Adam. It's good
Speaker 1: to add.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Adam's fucking sema hmm.
Speaker 1: From behind and they laugh. They're laughing. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, your penis.
Speaker 2: I actually wrote before we're going to get into the
Speaker 2: Deodan thing and some of that stuff we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about. I did right here because I want to
Speaker 2: be honest. I wrote, Okay, I love him, and I
Speaker 2: knew you're going to be mad because, as someone pointed
Speaker 2: out last week, when he sang Betty Davis' eyes, he
Speaker 2: actually sang Betty Davis eye because she had the eyepatch right,
Speaker 2: which was caught by one of our listeners. Uh. And
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of cute and funny.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I could never like getting to know him as we
Speaker 2: do in this next scene. I could never date a
Speaker 2: guy like that would not work. But there's something kind
Speaker 2: of really cute about him. And someone looked it up
Speaker 2: and he's like in his late forties, the real guy,
Speaker 2: remember how I And then I'm not younger, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with me, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: But he's totally age appropriate. Yeah, I just think he
Speaker 1: looks dirty. I like it a little bit.
Speaker 2: I like it, but he probably also, as we're going
Speaker 2: to find out right now, like smells really bad. Well
Speaker 2: not right now, we're going to come back to that
Speaker 2: it does not smell good.
Speaker 1: But first because we just have to have like this
Speaker 1: has to be the all sex, all the time episode.
Speaker 1: Right her birth is in bed with his wife, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm going to be attracted to my husband.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make myself.
Speaker 2: She gets herself rubbed, she jams herself up, she rubs
Speaker 2: some yams on her crotch.
Speaker 1: Yep, she's all. She's all like trying to put herself
Speaker 1: in the mood, and she like climbs on top of
Speaker 1: him and he's asleep, and he's like, oh, oh really okay,
Speaker 1: and she's like you're so fucking hot, like I want
Speaker 1: to I want to phone you right now. And he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I just have to pee real quick. And she's like,
Speaker 1: oh god, you have to pee. Well now I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be in the mood. Okay. I thought you
Speaker 1: guys have this hot sex life that you just told
Speaker 1: Charlotte that you and Herbert are and they do have
Speaker 1: sex all the time, which is one of the things
Speaker 1: I complained about, because he doesn't let her workout.
Speaker 2: I want to eat you out. Yeah, Herbert, I have
Speaker 2: taken a turn on. I have defended him for a
Speaker 2: long time to you because of my Hamilton, Like I
Speaker 2: just see him as Hamilton, not but in Hamilton, right,
Speaker 2: And I can't defend him now like he's he gets more,
Speaker 2: he gets worse and worse, right, and.
Speaker 1: Then then he yells from the bathroom, Hey, can we
Speaker 1: get some toilet paper on the shopping list? Also, we
Speaker 1: got to get Gabby some of those sparkling pink waters
Speaker 1: she likes. Okay, hey, Herbert, how about this? How about
Speaker 1: you go to the fucking store. Yeah, your wife is
Speaker 1: working too. Why is everything on Lisa's plate? Why imaging
Speaker 1: is her job? All the parenting, all the shopping. He
Speaker 1: got mad at her when she didn't have the chocolate,
Speaker 1: when she didn't come straight from a freaking flight, right
Speaker 1: and go buy chocolate in the airport. Oh my god, Herbert,
Speaker 1: there are stores everywhere around you in New York by
Speaker 1: some chocolate.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, he's horrible. He's horrible. But also then yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. She's also like, I guess I can't fuck
Speaker 2: my husband hes a pe, like that's a normal thing
Speaker 2: that somebody might, you know, just wake up and be like,
Speaker 2: hold on one second, I'm sixty, I gotta go do
Speaker 2: this thing real quick, right, But also maybe he could
Speaker 2: not be like get toilet paper. Nobody's good here, no nobody, No,
Speaker 2: there's no heroes. Okay, So now Marion is eating papaya
Speaker 2: in front of Lisa. Is this supposed to be sexy? Yes,
Speaker 2: it's supposed to I think that supposed to be you. No,
Speaker 2: of course not. I think it's supposed to be like
Speaker 2: oral sex. Right.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's like, ah, I love this pie. It's just
Speaker 1: so juicy.
Speaker 2: And it's even just on the papaya. You're like, that
Speaker 2: is not even close to the area that you need
Speaker 2: to be at.
Speaker 1: You can just see it.
Speaker 2: You're like, that's just I mean, you're not even that's
Speaker 2: not even my vagina. It's like my that's my way,
Speaker 2: that's my knee. God, why is everyone so bad at this?
Speaker 1: Then they have this like double this like innuendo conversation
Speaker 1: about like do you like new stuff? Do you like
Speaker 1: to just like, fuck people outside of your marriage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a hard No, I don't like, Yeah, you ever
Speaker 1: just want something different? Like no, She's like, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with my salad. He's like yeah, but do you ever
Speaker 1: just want to like do you ever just get bored
Speaker 1: of like salad all the time? Like the same old,
Speaker 1: same old, same old salad, like year in, year out.
Speaker 2: You ever just want to like is that salad worker her?
Speaker 2: Do you hate Herbert salads? And also he has a
Speaker 2: mustache for some reason all but I don't remember him
Speaker 2: having a mustache in the last episode.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know either. Did you write that down?
Speaker 2: Like he just grew a mustache out of nowhere, but
Speaker 2: maybe had it the whole time?
Speaker 1: And like why is her personality now as over the
Speaker 1: top as Charlotte's. He's like, hey, there's this movie. Nope,
Speaker 1: very busy. I'm so busy. I'm busy every day, every
Speaker 1: day all the time. I'm really really busy. And he's like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a development executive from the Obamas, and
Speaker 1: she's like oh okay. So we go to the next
Speaker 1: scene and she's wearing this red like extravagant jumpsuit. Right,
Speaker 1: But she's like.
Speaker 2: I'm going to this work thing, but I'm not even
Speaker 2: gonna change my clothes, Like I don't even.
Speaker 1: Care how I look. You're already so you're already more dressed.
Speaker 2: Up than I've ever been in my entire life, right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like always yeah.
Speaker 1: Always, every scene, every character.
Speaker 2: I mean, Carrie all day at home, like I said,
Speaker 2: Grey Gardens, she just glides around in these ball gowns.
Speaker 1: Right. So she's like, I don't I just have to
Speaker 1: go to this work thing. But she has to go
Speaker 1: to this work thing. And then her daughter's like, what
Speaker 1: about my pink set? Sir, well, your husband is just
Speaker 1: literally sitting at a table with her instacart that shit,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me right now? And she's like, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: oh no, you're but you're pink Sultzer, You're right, okay, well,
Speaker 1: oh sorry, oh my god.
Speaker 2: They're acting like it's the biggest deal that she edited
Speaker 2: for a couple hours and now she's going to a movie.
Speaker 1: It's not like she's leaving a newborn at home.
Speaker 2: I don't want any ways, she is because it's Herbert
Speaker 2: and that's where you're right, Yeah, then okay, then we
Speaker 2: get to the then we get to the meat, some
Speaker 2: of the meat that you're gonna hate. Okay, right, this
Speaker 2: is when Aiden, we're back with Aidan being very jealous
Speaker 2: of Duncan, yes, being very passive aggressive about it. And
Speaker 2: this is making me so mad because again, as I
Speaker 2: just said, he's the one who just cheated, he's the
Speaker 2: one who did it.
Speaker 1: Fuck him? Yeah, agree agree. So Aiden is going like, oh,
Speaker 1: why don't we just to invite dunkin Donuts to dinner?
Speaker 1: So it's already like insulting him. He's given him like
Speaker 1: a ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Nickname, and a real easy one too, like a horror
Speaker 2: low hanging fruit Aiden.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So so that happens and Carrie's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that. And she's like yeah, and
Speaker 1: he starts like interrogating her about her relationship with Duncan,
Speaker 1: and she's like, there's nothing, there's no relationship. We write together.
Speaker 1: We sit and we just write and we talk about like, oh,
Speaker 1: page twenty eight sucks or whatever. And he's like, oooh,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm gonna go fuck Kathy.
Speaker 2: Maybe there is it, Okay, I don't even care. I
Speaker 2: don't care what you say, all right, Carrie, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna just go right with this dunkin Donuts character, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna fuck Kathy.
Speaker 1: Okay, you like that? How do you like that?
Speaker 2: And do you like them apples? And then he holds
Speaker 2: up two apples like brass, and you're like, oh god, Aiden,
Speaker 2: Maybe they're possibly making Aidan so awful that it's like
Speaker 2: they want the audience. And I don't know this because
Speaker 2: I'm only like a little ahead, but not a lot.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're trying to make him so terrible that we're
Speaker 2: going to just so root for her when she fucking
Speaker 2: stands up to him. Maybe they're doing it on purpose.
Speaker 1: Okay, I hope so. But there's been already plenty of
Speaker 1: chances for her to stand up for herself before right
Speaker 1: he broke her window. He told her to wait five years.
Speaker 1: Then he called her and insists that she had like
Speaker 1: phone sex with them, even though they're not supposed to
Speaker 1: be having any contact. But it's only when he wants it,
Speaker 1: And then it's basically moped in. Hold on, oh that
Speaker 1: I'm almost there. Why be quiet?
Speaker 2: For oh my god, that should have been quiet?
Speaker 1: Wyat that is such a good name for the whole show.
Speaker 1: They should change the whole name. Okay.
Speaker 2: So then oh yeah, she's trying to say, like it's
Speaker 2: all about our books. We're just talking about the books.
Speaker 2: And then I just made the note because I think
Speaker 2: we've I think we made it clear that we don't
Speaker 2: like Aiden, but I've made the note here of again,
Speaker 2: why is Carrie acting like he's not being awful, which
Speaker 2: is your point? Why is she not saying something? Now,
Speaker 2: that's what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all right, So see me and the gardener
Speaker 1: or at dinner.
Speaker 2: Adam he has a name, yes, and this is so stupid.
Speaker 1: So stupid. They see a woman putting on deodorant at
Speaker 1: a table like behind him, and then they both start
Speaker 1: laughing about it, like, well, I've seen everything, now, how
Speaker 1: have you seen everything? Is somebody putting on deodorant? That's
Speaker 1: like the craziest thing you've ever seen in New York.
Speaker 2: Right, and then he says Then Adam's like, well, I
Speaker 2: mean I wouldn't touch the stuff. So we find out
Speaker 2: in this moment that he's like super crunchy. Right, she
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense. I mean it kind of looks
Speaker 2: the part, so.
Speaker 1: Like a gardener with like longish hair. I mean, what,
Speaker 1: how is this any of this a surprise?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: But although we smell bad though. This is the thing is,
Speaker 1: it's not like he's ever been like, oh you kind
Speaker 1: of he's he's it's you know how this could have
Speaker 1: been like very sex in the city because it Sima
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, this guy is so cute,
Speaker 1: but like he's got really bad bo how do we
Speaker 1: find out why? Then he says like he's all proud
Speaker 1: that he doesn't wear deodorant, and she's trying to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to say, like, oh that is old school.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would have.
Speaker 1: Been really perfect.
Speaker 2: But instead we also find out that his last name,
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, my last name, you know, that's Karma.
Speaker 2: That's my last name. My parents they were hippies, like
Speaker 2: they had it changed, and she hadn't never asked his
Speaker 2: last name until this point. They've slept together many times,
Speaker 2: they're dating now, so she never literally like she's not
Speaker 2: gonna she's not gonna google him. Right, you meet someone
Speaker 2: one date, you're going to ask their last name. There's
Speaker 2: no way that is definitely on the first date or
Speaker 2: before the first date kind of thing. Your name is
Speaker 2: Adam Karma, I wish I knew that before. What Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then he doesn't wear deodorant, but he uses crystals.
Speaker 2: It's very important that you know that he uses these
Speaker 2: like weird. He makes them out of like lie like
Speaker 2: soap that he makes himself, none of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is old school weird. Remember when they
Speaker 1: sold those like in crystal and guess what, they didn't work.
Speaker 1: I remember comedians doing jokes about him and they're like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't mean to be rude to anybody, but
Speaker 2: I always felt that way when I see it, And
Speaker 2: to this day, if I see a Tom's like toothpaste
Speaker 2: or anything, no offense.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people use it, and I understand,
Speaker 2: like for reasons that you have, but when I see
Speaker 2: it in a guy's apartment, I'm like, Nope, I know
Speaker 2: it's just not going to work. You gotta have some
Speaker 2: fucking fluoride, you gotta have some aluminum.
Speaker 1: You need it. We're like getting rid of it.
Speaker 2: But I got very upset when they got remember an
Speaker 2: anti like in like dial soap. Now that they got
Speaker 2: rid of the actual like what's it called antibacterial, they
Speaker 2: weren't allowed because it's bad for you, which I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it's good that they but then they got
Speaker 2: rid of it and they sold the same soap without
Speaker 2: the anti bacterial part for like your under arms, and
Speaker 2: it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is, So like, we're just gonna smell what
Speaker 2: is it? You want to die young? Like? How many
Speaker 2: more years does it give you? Smelling good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You can use a deodorant that works better than a
Speaker 1: crystal that doesn't have aluminum in it. Yes, what my
Speaker 1: kids use. And it's but when they say so so,
Speaker 1: which leads me to they're at the art gallery and uh,
Speaker 1: basically he's like, asked Aiden if he wears deodorant, and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I wear a speed stick, that's it.
Speaker 2: And then Adam's like, oh yeah, I something about I
Speaker 2: smell my middle school gym coach or something, and Aid's.
Speaker 1: Like and then they have to bring up Duncan Well.
Speaker 2: Aiden does because he's obsessed with them. He's like, who's
Speaker 2: the stuff Duncan fellow?
Speaker 1: What do you know? What do you know?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, yeah, he's a meanie. He's meaning
Speaker 1: he's mean. We don't like him all right, So over
Speaker 1: on the other side of the gallery, Miranda, Charlotte, and
Speaker 1: Carrie are all talking about like the different phases of life,
Speaker 1: and they're standing in front of the Happily ever After part,
Speaker 1: which is I guess a woman in bed with an iPad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Miranda is like Mariade. She's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in such a better place in life now and
Speaker 1: I'm so happy and like, you know, with joy and
Speaker 1: you know joy she's able to leave a big bottle
Speaker 1: of a giant bottle of gin at my house. And
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm not really an alcoholic, like you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe I was just going through a bad time,
Speaker 1: like I was in an unhappy marriage like with Steve,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was struggling with my sexuality. But like,
Speaker 1: is it possible I just kind of overcorrected for that.
Speaker 1: Now this is super relatable. I thought so too. It's
Speaker 1: very relatable. She does not want to have to quit
Speaker 1: drinking forever. She wants to have a normal relationship with
Speaker 1: her girlfriend. She's like, maybe I'm I'm not an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: Also, it is weird that Miranda being an alcoholic did
Speaker 2: come out of nowhere. Yes, right, they just tacked that
Speaker 2: on to her personality. It's not like she's always been
Speaker 2: like the big drinker of the bunch and got drunk, which.
Speaker 1: Is usually more how it is.
Speaker 2: Well, there were then some episodes where she did she
Speaker 2: was black in Saxaicity, she blacked out like I think twice, okay,
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know if that's like that.
Speaker 2: You know that's over many, many years.
Speaker 1: Though, right, So that's when so Carrie's like, well, what
Speaker 1: does Joy think about this? Which I don't know why
Speaker 1: you would ask her the girl she's just started dating.
Speaker 1: But Miranda's like, oh oh, things have been so great
Speaker 1: with Joy. I didn't want to make a big deal
Speaker 1: about it because that would be such a buzzkill, like
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I'm an alcoholic and they're like,
Speaker 1: well no, it would just be honest like of you
Speaker 1: to say that. And then we leave that scene because
Speaker 1: Charlotte has an another bout a vertigo super over the top.
Speaker 2: She's like oh no, oh.
Speaker 1: Oh god, and then show then.
Speaker 2: It peeps over to like, oh, yeah, that's right. I
Speaker 2: wasn't even sure that it was yu. Seppe's like, I
Speaker 2: didn't even register. There's so many characters that I didn't
Speaker 2: even know who she was. So the Art Gallery guy
Speaker 2: is trying to sell her. Is this the part where
Speaker 2: he's trying to sell her all these pictures? She's so rich,
Speaker 2: It's like, Oh, I got a Warhol for you, I
Speaker 2: got a Hockney for you. And it took me a minute.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just some random woman that they
Speaker 2: just cut to, but then I realized it was Yo
Speaker 2: Seppe's mom.
Speaker 1: But that's the problem.
Speaker 2: There's so many characters' is like, oh, yeah, I forgot
Speaker 2: that she's here.
Speaker 1: Why is she here? Why? I don't understand at all.
Speaker 1: It's making me insane, right yeah, the tact on character
Speaker 1: for no reason, just for what?
Speaker 2: And he rightfully, I know, Anthony's rightfully upset. He's a
Speaker 2: set so hed, you know. And because she's being like again,
Speaker 2: people aren't usually that terrible.
Speaker 1: They could be. Maybe she's so mean, she's so mean
Speaker 1: and awful and aggressive. Why I don't know. But did
Speaker 1: you notice this?
Speaker 2: So they're having their scene whatever with Anthony, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Joy is just all of a
Speaker 2: sudden there had it ever been explained before? This is
Speaker 2: what you say about the bad writing. Miranda didn't say
Speaker 2: to the other women like, hey, Joy's on her way.
Speaker 1: I don't think she said that.
Speaker 2: Joy just showed up again shows the video like somebody
Speaker 2: like picked up there, I'm going to date myself. But
Speaker 2: they picked up their joystick whatever you call it now,
Speaker 2: what do you call it? A console? They picked it
Speaker 2: up and they're like, okay, player, start right.
Speaker 1: Yes, sleep and now she's up. She's up. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: literally wrote now Joy's there for no reason, That's what
Speaker 1: I wrote. Joys all of a sudden there, yeah, and
Speaker 1: there and then for no reason, she was like, here,
Speaker 1: hold my glass of champagne in your face because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go walk away to go to the bathroom or whatever.
Speaker 1: Here's my ship. What It's just not a thing you
Speaker 1: would put it down somewhere. You wouldn't just be like here,
Speaker 1: hold this. Of course, so your girlfriend who doesn't drink,
Speaker 1: who you remember, doesn't drink because she reminded you or
Speaker 1: you remembered, But now you're just like, is this supposed
Speaker 1: to be the most insensitive person ever? Mm hmm. And
Speaker 1: then Miranda like smells the champagne and kind of like
Speaker 1: almost thinks about drinking it. So we're setting something up.
Speaker 2: So Charlotte sees this from across the room and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, she cares and she runs over, but oh,
Speaker 2: the vertigo and she falls into the naked lady. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like wow, wow, we're on the naked lady's.
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then you get calm on the arm. She got
Speaker 2: calm on her arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then she's like, I'm sorry, I have vertigo,
Speaker 1: and the model goes, is that even a real thing? Like,
Speaker 1: it's so sick?
Speaker 2: Call me.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so Seinfeld. It's so like you said,
Speaker 1: what's too close for Comfort Three's company, It's this is
Speaker 1: not what this show is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: In two cluss for comforts, Monroe and he would set like,
Speaker 2: that's who my dog was named after because it looks
Speaker 2: like Jim J. Bullock to me, And that is like
Speaker 2: a Jim J. Bullock moment.
Speaker 1: He just like, mister.
Speaker 2: Rush, mister h I have vertigo. Yes, oh oh it's okay.
Speaker 2: Then we have so we have calm on Charlotte's arm.
Speaker 2: Then we go to Lisa and Hot Chocolate. They go
Speaker 2: to a movie huh.
Speaker 1: And Marion's leg brushes against her and she hops up
Speaker 1: bigger acting than Charlotte, and she's like, I have to go.
Speaker 1: I have to go right now, I have to go
Speaker 1: by Pik for my child.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And she calls Charlotte from the grocery store and Charlotte
Speaker 1: is walking down her hallway. How does she get there?
Speaker 1: She caught her nine to one one. No, but she's
Speaker 1: just all by herself. What did she put herself in
Speaker 1: a cab? And she can't even walk she's completely bent
Speaker 1: over holding onto the wall. Yeah, and LCW is just
Speaker 1: freaking out. She's like, oh my god, I mean we're flirting.
Speaker 1: It's outside of work. It's not flirting anymore. We're flirting.
Speaker 1: And she's just gripping. Charlotte is gripping the walls watching.
Speaker 2: She never even says like, oh, by the way, I
Speaker 2: really can't talk.
Speaker 1: I've been throwing up. Where to goo?
Speaker 2: By the way again, I'm not even it's very serious,
Speaker 2: like you could really get sick. I mean, like people
Speaker 2: throw up for days. You're like, it's really awful. So
Speaker 2: wouldn't she.
Speaker 1: Be throwing up?
Speaker 2: And wouldn't she just mention like I really can't talk
Speaker 2: right now. I hope you don't fuck Marian. But like
Speaker 2: whatever you do, you do, you know, good luck, like
Speaker 2: it luck to you, Like I just why would she
Speaker 2: not tell her that she's like very sick, right, right,
Speaker 2: then marian calls right, and then he's like and she's
Speaker 2: like and then she's all flustered, and he's like, well,
Speaker 2: I've got someone here for you.
Speaker 1: I've got the EP.
Speaker 2: You know, I've got the Obama people here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then all okay, and then immediately like, so tell me
Speaker 2: more about your ten part docuseries. Oh my, that's like,
Speaker 2: that's how Hollywood works, Like, that's how things work. Hi.
Speaker 1: I know it's late at night, it's ten o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: but I want to hear all about this project. Just
Speaker 1: start telling me over the phone, right.
Speaker 2: And we might just make it happen right now. Just
Speaker 2: in the room, as they say. But you're not in
Speaker 2: the room because you had to run out because you're
Speaker 2: in love with the editor. But dob okay. So Miranda's
Speaker 2: home watching that reality show she likes, yeah about the
Speaker 2: but the Gin is calling her from the cabinet.
Speaker 1: The Gin is like, Marinda, that's the gin, Marianda. It
Speaker 1: sounds like, but it's nasty. It's the gin. It's the gin.
Speaker 1: You feel guilty for not drinking me, Marianda, come and
Speaker 1: take a little sip, and so she goes over to
Speaker 1: the cabinet. She opens up the cabinet and then she
Speaker 1: takes the gin out and it's like, Marinda simp.
Speaker 3: Maria, I'm harmless, Rianda, just taste me, sniffy Marida.
Speaker 1: So she takes the top off and she smells it,
Speaker 1: and she gets out a glass and she puts a
Speaker 1: little teeny bit in there, and then she stares at
Speaker 1: it and she dumps it in the sink and she
Speaker 1: walks away back to the TV. Oh I also forgot
Speaker 1: that she first got herself some cookies and ate the
Speaker 1: cookies because you know she's compulsive, right, it's like eating cookies.
Speaker 1: But then she's like, oh, gin though, it's calling to me, Arianda.
Speaker 3: So then lick your haircut? Did you get you got
Speaker 3: a mom? You got a mom, Bob, Mirianda, it's me
Speaker 3: the gin ove your mom, Bob. I love your graduated Bob.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it looks John and Kate plus
Speaker 1: eight at all. Eluanda's you didn't like it? I know
Speaker 1: it's sounds like Steve, but I'm the gin. Where is even?
Speaker 1: So she goes So Miranda goes back to her desk
Speaker 1: and she's like, uh, tries to watch her TV show
Speaker 1: again or whatever, and then she's just like ah. She
Speaker 1: runs over and she grabs the bottle and Steve's like,
Speaker 1: don't throw me away.
Speaker 2: It's not the gin, hey, don't throw me away like
Speaker 2: the marriage.
Speaker 1: She gets really confused, so she throws it down the
Speaker 1: trash chute in her apartment building. And then she feels
Speaker 1: really satisfied. And then Harry is writing her.
Speaker 2: I guess my fucking mind on this. Can I please
Speaker 2: read the line?
Speaker 1: Please do? Okay? Please do? Please do?
Speaker 2: I Hey, hey, Carrie, it's me Samantha from London.
Speaker 1: They just piece together.
Speaker 2: They ai her voice like the real Kim Cantrel, Like
Speaker 2: they have enough of her talking over the years that
Speaker 2: they get pieced to. Yeah, their sentences right, but it
Speaker 2: sounds really disjointed. I hope you finish your book, Carrie.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to read it. Okay, I have written
Speaker 2: this down wrong. But the woman Okay, so she's writing
Speaker 2: your book. The woman felt happiness like a red bird?
Speaker 2: Did I get that wrong?
Speaker 1: Is that what she wrote? Well? She starts it out.
Speaker 1: It's like, after what seemed like forever, the woman's happiness
Speaker 1: had arrived at her doorstep, magnificent like a big red bird.
Speaker 1: I left out a lot of words.
Speaker 2: I literally put that in quotes. I literally put that
Speaker 2: in quotes. So that's not great on my part. Read
Speaker 2: that again, please, So this is Carrie's big novel that
Speaker 2: dunk In, the real writer thinks is great.
Speaker 1: Okay, read it again. After what seemed like forever, the woman,
Speaker 1: the woman's happiness had arrived at her doorstep. Magnificent, like
Speaker 1: a big red bird that appears in the garden. And
Speaker 1: then it goes on about bird and then she's carry on.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. It's brilliant,
Speaker 1: it's brilliant. It's not so jealous of your talent.
Speaker 2: I mean, what is she fine?
Speaker 1: Me and my silly Margaret Thatcher book when you're writing
Speaker 1: just brilliant like a big red bird. I mean what? Okay?
Speaker 2: So this is either we decide at this point that
Speaker 2: they're trolling us or they're not. They're either fucking with
Speaker 2: us or they're not. So we have to like pick
Speaker 2: this is a chooser own adventure, Like we're gonna look
Speaker 2: at this like there's a fork in the road and
Speaker 2: we have to decide from now on, like are we
Speaker 2: gonna just go with it like they're hilarious.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're trolling us. I think that they
Speaker 1: are every they think that this is really good stuff.
Speaker 1: Well it's not. But what we end on a scene
Speaker 1: of Aiden and Carrie are in bed and she's a
Speaker 1: little bit distant from him. So no, oh, is she
Speaker 1: not that into it? Shouldn't be that into it? Movie?
Speaker 1: And what if she has sex with Steve?
Speaker 2: Let's throw on know, some wrenches in there, let's see,
Speaker 2: let's bring Jay back at this point. If if we're
Speaker 2: gonna do this, let's do it all the way. I
Speaker 2: like the idea of Big. I like the idea of Big. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it's it was all a dream. He's totally there, and
Speaker 2: then the second half of the season it's just Big.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh my god. And then she's confused. Maybe
Speaker 2: she kind of goes crazy. Maybe Carrie could have like
Speaker 2: a psychotic break. So she's been living this like private,
Speaker 2: like secret life in her mind, oh and living everything.
Speaker 2: But Big has been there the whole time. And she's
Speaker 2: in a hospital.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is a good idea.
Speaker 2: But yes, you see her in this hospital and she's
Speaker 2: kind of rocking and Chris Chris Notae is like right
Speaker 2: there like soothing her, but you just like see that
Speaker 2: her eyes are kind of darting around. She doesn't know
Speaker 2: what's real or not anymore like and maybe maybe BIG's there,
Speaker 2: maybe he's not. But why would she make up in
Speaker 2: her psychotic breag? Why would she make up joy?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What are we like?
Speaker 1: What a story? It's just got really complicated because there's
Speaker 1: like drugs in her system.
Speaker 2: Make it Adam. She makes up Adam for Sema. All
Speaker 2: that's made up that he doesn't wear toodoran, that's all
Speaker 2: just in her head. It's like a snow globe like
Speaker 2: at the end of ste elsewhere, like they shake the
Speaker 2: snow globe. And it's just like she's been mute. She's
Speaker 2: been mute her whole life.
Speaker 1: None of this has happened.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have any friends. There is no more Anta.
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