1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Stalton Toler says an as AI is a big topic 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,679 in the movie world right now, with most people being 3 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:07,879 against it for various reasons. Do you see any pausiti 4 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:11,119 that AI can bring to the movie making experience or 5 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:12,039 is it all bad? 6 00:00:12,199 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: To start with that, I. 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,519 Speaker 3: Think that AI is not all bad. I think that 8 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:21,640 there are definitely places for it, but we need to 9 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:23,600 be careful with it. I'm not saying like, oh, hey, 10 00:00:23,679 --> 00:00:25,199 I is going to take over the world and kill 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,039 people and yeah, yeah, Terminator Sky. In that, I am 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,879 implying the fact that I think we live in a 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 world where we are still struggling to keep up with technology, 14 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:38,240 and I think that technology has now rapidly outpaced humans 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,159 in terms of working the employment line. And there's a 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,679 lot of jobs out there that people are easily going 17 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:46,920 to get replaced for, and there's a lot of employers 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,799 that will jump on this opportunity to use technology to 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,840 produce costs, cut costs and get physical labor out of 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,840 the way, because physical labor is not cheap, it's expensive, 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,399 and they're workers comp tons of stuff, paid stats whatever, 22 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:05,159 lots of problems for an employer. And we don't live 23 00:01:05,159 --> 00:01:08,359 in an age where most employers really care about their employees. 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,120 I think that, you know, you have smaller tie like 25 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:15,239 businesses and stuff like that, and there are more family, 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,079 community oriented companies out there, for sure, but I think 27 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:21,239 there's a lot of more mainline companies that just they 28 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:23,159 don't give a shit about you. You're just an employee 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,400 to them, so they're gonna easily just scrap you to 30 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:27,599 the side and get AI in there to start handling 31 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:32,319 all of these tedious workloads. My point is, I think 32 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:38,680 that we have we've got AI that's just boom like 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,439 bloomed out of proportion here, and it's just taken the 34 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:43,879 world by storm, and we don't have the proper precautions 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,879 and barriers set up to protect people from this because 36 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:52,120 it's just popped up so fast and so unprecedented. It's 37 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:55,560 I mean, it's it's crazy what you can do, like 38 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:57,959 with with my phone with it at least I don't 39 00:01:57,959 --> 00:01:59,200 know if you can do with older models. With that 40 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:02,120 one sixteen, I can take a photo of something and 41 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:05,400 in that photo, chatchept will actually like scan it and 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,680 tell me everything it's in the photo and dissect it. 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,120 I can be like I can take a photo of. 44 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: A b I can stop it. 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. But I can take a photo of 46 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:14,199 a B and be like what kind of B is 47 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:15,800 this and chat cheept like, oh this B is so 48 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:18,479 and so from this here this region. Yeah yah yeaha 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,520 it's crazy. Uh So there are places where this can 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,199 come in handy using AI. But when it comes to 51 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:31,000 stuff like film, uh, I'm biased because I think that 52 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,400 practical effects should still be used greatly in movies. And 53 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:38,000 so when you have AI to refine like scenery and 54 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:40,199 stuff like in The Brutalist when they used it to 55 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:44,120 work on the backgrounds, I think a little bit. I'm 56 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:48,360 not a big fan of that. I think that again, 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,719 AI needs to be kind of kept in check. There's 58 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,719 a lot of people that I know that you know, 59 00:02:55,199 --> 00:02:58,479 being a graphic designer and seeing AI just generate logos 60 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,319 and then having a lot of people to work on 61 00:03:01,479 --> 00:03:06,800 excelling their skills at being illustrators and artists, and then 62 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,960 AI just comes in and just like thirty seconds whip 63 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:12,520 something up. It's like hod damn, Like it's just gonna 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,479 put these poor people out of business. These people have 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,360 spent years mastering this craft and they're very talented. So 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,719 that's that's where I am. I'm kind of biased on it. 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,599 There's there's there's give and take with it, and we 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,000 just need to find that balance. 69 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: It's awful get rid of it all. Uh No, like 70 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:30,360 it's tough. 71 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:32,879 Speaker 1: I think for me where I am with Ai, I 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,439 like it for the things you talked about with you know, 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,199 taking picture being what is this like I like certain 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,159 quality of life things, but it's something of like it 75 00:03:41,319 --> 00:03:44,120 happens and it helps me go, oh, that's cool, but 76 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:46,159 not to the extent of and I know because I 77 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:47,879 can't remember where I think you can talk about a 78 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:50,879 bit on after nine. But you know, Clay and dealing 79 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:54,240 with the brutalist thing had more of a issue with 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,000 like the drawings and landscapes and not so much with 81 00:03:57,039 --> 00:03:59,759 the voice tuning right, And that's where it's tricky for 82 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,599 me because I always had more issue with the voices 83 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:04,879 because and this is where for them not as much, 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,360 right because even Clays like, oh, I don't care about 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,159 the oscars, but someone like myself who like I kind 86 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:11,759 of care, like like it depends the year, but like 87 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:13,879 it's not I don't care about as much, but still 88 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:16,120 I'm interested in and to me, if I'm looking as 89 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,079 far as a voting process, right, and if you have 90 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,519 an actor, you have five categories. 91 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:20,639 Speaker 3: Right. 92 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,199 Speaker 1: Let's say it's down to two actors and both of 93 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:25,360 them are doing voices, and one's voice is you know, 94 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:28,920 their natural voice, doing an accent, and one is doing 95 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,160 an accent as well as I can. But then there's 96 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,600 some touch ups and that leans people to go, oh, 97 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:35,680 you know what, maybe I'll give them my vote. And 98 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,879 that's where it's to me, it's the worry of the snowball. 99 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:42,439 I think there's certain things and even like I think 100 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:46,279 Dylan said this on Afternight, it's like like technically there's 101 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,399 stuff like if there's there's been versions of AI all 102 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:53,399 throughout our past twenty years, but we don't call me AI, 103 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,959 even like myself when I upload casts when we got 104 00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:58,800 lots of different mics, Like it's different with us, but 105 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,360 with the gimmick I'll use for example, right, me, I 106 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:04,360 suppose and David are all using different mics. It's different 107 00:05:04,399 --> 00:05:06,600 for us because you, me and Kirk all using sures 108 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,480 and then Dylan's getting a sure. So we usually even 109 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:12,639 if it's audio levels, we sound pretty similar. But I 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,720 use something on pound coup Pro. It's like surround compressor 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,199 and I just do that and right away does all 112 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:20,879 the checks and bounts. So technically you should say, well, Travis, 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,399 you should be doing that and like going each and 114 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,319 editing everything like that. 115 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,879 Speaker 2: But I don't have the time for that. 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: But I also know, like this is not like like that's. 117 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,759 Speaker 2: The difference where with Kirkland's ADR and Adrenochrome. I sat 118 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,000 there for days tinkering at that I didn't want and 119 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,120 I'm sure there's some programs out there and maybe that's 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,279 somewhere again that someone could use that against me as 121 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,199 far as hey, you use that's that's AI. There's some 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,639 issues there, and that's where I go. I think I'm fine. 123 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, it doesn't matter. Like the caadegy 124 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:52,360 words already nominate people. If the brutalless wins, that's the 125 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:55,199 stamp approval. My worry is, oh, you know, like Agent 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,079 Brody and something's changed his voice. What happens if it's 127 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,759 like and they're like, oh, it's a few lines, But 128 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:02,040 then what happens when the movie comes by and it's like, well, 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,160 it's a you know, a few more scenes and then 130 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:07,240 it's a section, and that's a whole movie, like you 131 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,040 saw a Napoleon right, eventually? Right with Walking Phoenix, that 132 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:13,920 man has no bush accent whatsoever. Right, it's just him 133 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:16,959 being himself. Now, what happens take that movie and they 134 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,839 go walk and say, I can't do that hype of accent, 135 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,920 and they go, well, you know what, you're just gonna 136 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,600 speak regular. But at the end of the movie, we're 137 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,360 gonna throw a filter on there and the entire movie 138 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:26,879 you're gonna be British or what is He's French? Actually sorry, 139 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,839 he's screwed that up. He's French, right, And that's what 140 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:32,759 I worry as far as if people give the handwave 141 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,360 of like, oh that's fine, and that's fine. Eventually people 142 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:41,680 just take take a take and then it'll just become 143 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,000 the norm. And if that's kind of what happened with CGI, right, 144 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,360 and that's tough because there lots of time that still 145 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,920 employs people. Right, But that you could even have that 146 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:57,519 argument of I could be wrong, but let's say to 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,639 make it to bring Aliens back, and I think it's 148 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:04,480 let's just go Aliens is the first time. 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: The mother the queen xenomorph appears? Right? 150 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:10,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could be wrong, So I might be speaking 151 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:13,480 my ass there, but I bet it took more people 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,040 to practically make that than it would for someone. 153 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: To animate that. 154 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:20,199 Speaker 1: Right, it might make I'm not even talking about the time. 155 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 I'm just saying you could probably find someone in the 156 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,120 world that is the best CGI person. You know, I 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,560 could make the Queen Zeno morph, and then technically that 158 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,720 put all those practical people out of work. Right, So 159 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:32,639 we've been here before in a different way. This is 160 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,000 just like a complete computer now doing it. So I 161 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,399 think it's something that, unfortunately we have to accept. I 162 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:40,360 think it is gonna be something that's gonna get abused. 163 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:42,560 I think there's levels of and even to myself, I'm like, 164 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:44,600 I think, then if you use it in a film, 165 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:47,560 that should definitely be you should say that. And maybe 166 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,720 there's some situations like the Oscars or other words, where 167 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 maybe that takes out of contention. But then it's tough 168 00:07:52,079 --> 00:07:54,639 if something's so great, like where do you draw the line? 169 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,800 And that's tough with a lot of things. Right, I'm 170 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,920 not gonna draw the line of not watching something if 171 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:01,360 I'm interested in it, because if I were to do 172 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,720 that with everything, I wouldn't be watching almost anything. I 173 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,959 wouldn't be watching this phone because I'm sure the people 174 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,399 that made this phone weren't just like you know, working 175 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:13,240 for good hours and good labor, you know. Like that's 176 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,639 the thing, Like there's so much stuff that we use 177 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:16,680 in our day life that it's tough where and I 178 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,639 want to do an after bred butter about this of 179 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,920 like where you draw the line on certain things or 180 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,480 how or how do you do it? Because at some 181 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,639 point there's just too much of it. So that's where 182 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:26,399 I think we unfortunately have to accept it. I think 183 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:28,040 I just don't want it to get abused and it 184 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:31,120 just be replaced, like I will never here's the difference. 185 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:34,320 I will never like, hey, I made this Batman film 186 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,639 completely AI, I'm not watching that if it's one of 187 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,360 those things not for me, Like I've seen some ofos 188 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,919 and don't get me wrong, every year those things get 189 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,320 more and more impressive, the photos, the videos they and 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,360 that's what have you seen it going around? 191 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: Maybe you should search on Actually I might. 192 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:52,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to pull it up because he actually 193 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:54,559 could get just pulled off there or something like that. 194 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,080 Have you seen the Evil Dead opening recreated? 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:57,759 Speaker 2: AI? 196 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: No, So it's like whenever it happens in the Eel 197 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Dead when it's like the spirits or whatever, and it's 198 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,480 like they're pointing a few and they're going through the 199 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,639 woods and they go to the cabin. Someone recreated that 200 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:12,879 with AI and that's where for me it's like okay, 201 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,519 And even with scoring films appreciating them, that's where people 202 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:17,200 showed the comparison. 203 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: I like, look at what these four guys did in 204 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,080 the eighties. 205 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,279 Speaker 1: One guy has a board strap to them, the camera's there. 206 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,679 I'm always gonna respect that and I'm always going to 207 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,720 give that higher grades. 208 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: You can use AI. 209 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,759 Speaker 1: Of course, it might make it better, or it might 210 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:31,840 make it easier, might make it faster, But if I 211 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:34,639 know someone did it practical and worked harder, especially because 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,679 that's what we do right now. 213 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: That's because like Shoestring Budget were independent filmmakers. 214 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,399 Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm always going to lean to the 215 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,159 hard work, even if it doesn't look as crisp. You know, 216 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,120 there's more blood, sweat and tears poured in that than 217 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,039 just a simple click of a button, which again everyone's 218 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,679 kind of guilty of it. Right, So it's a it's 219 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,639 a tough situation and we'll have to see how goes 220 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:56,879 going forward. But that's my worry of the brutalist having 221 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,399 a few AI things, even if they're minor, and then 222 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:02,039 it wins best Picture. I feel like it's kind of 223 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,919 all bets are off at that point. 224 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: I feel like it it is the start of a ball. 225 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: And then soon I'm sure some big film's gonna use 226 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:10,639 it like a billion. 227 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: Dollar like other films already do. 228 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, a secret war something's gonna use 229 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,519 it and then boom, and. 230 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Like I said, it can be a tool. You can 231 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:18,399 use it. 232 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,519 Speaker 1: But I get there why there's a certain eck around it, 233 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,480 and I have a certain ick around it too, and 234 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:24,759 I think it just comes to different parts of it. 235 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: So let's see my apple mic ruining the show. 236 00:10:29,159 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: She went, I don't think it's ruining the show as 237 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,960 but I always edited the I think it's just because you, 238 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,200 me and David are a different audio, and I always 239 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,519 fix it and pose live. 240 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:37,919 Speaker 2: I tried. 241 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm always tinkering with it. It's just tough because we 242 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 all different mics. But you know, we'll get your bare 243 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:45,279 mic down line there and Toldon says, I definitely thought 244 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,440 about it on the CGI practical effects level. 245 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's tough situation. So uh taya. You can 246 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:52,559 end this portion of the episode with did you find 247 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,919 that evil dead thing? Did you see that? 248 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: No? 249 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: No, he didn't even look. He didn't care. 250 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: He's like, gohever, try to talking about I'm gonna go 251 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,120 back to my porn. What do you think of the 252 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Final Destination trailer? And then what do you think about 253 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,639 dress World? Because I know the trailer, but they gave 254 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,559 us some images and lots and lots of details of 255 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,399 what's happening in this movie. 256 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: So yeah, Final Destination. I don't even know if I've 257 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:20,320 seen all of them. I just remember. I just remember 258 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,879 being traumatized as a kid. This is a movie franchise 259 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,080 that's till to this day. When I enter certain scenarios 260 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,879 in life, a lot of these movies. Yeah, log truck, Escalator, 261 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:34,240 tanning booth. Not necessarily, but it just pops in my 262 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:37,000 head when I see it, because you don't you don't go, 263 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,200 I don't tam, but whenever I see a tanning booth, 264 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:43,639 it just pops in my mind. But Escalator especially, Yeah, 265 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,279 there's just a few things, and it's I remember there 266 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,759 was a train with a chain on it, and like 267 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:51,840 cut a guy's head off or something like that might 268 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:56,320 be the first one. Anyways, I digress. The movies definitely 269 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,639 have a certain place in my heart for not in 270 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,200 like a good way, but just a it's a traumatizing thing. 271 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:07,200 And so I thought, oh, man, like this new trailer, 272 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:11,399 let's watch it, Let's see what happens. And yeah, it was, Uh, 273 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:15,360 it was. It was exactly how I expected it was 274 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:18,480 going to go, because it's just this, this whole thing 275 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,080 is his master plan and it's almost warline supernatural with 276 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,600 how things are mapped out and planned. But it's at 277 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,200 the same time it's not because the guy is kind 278 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,519 of like he's playing his music and the speakers are 279 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:32,360 making things fall over and that leads to like something 280 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,639 else lighting on fire, and it's just so tactically planned 281 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,600 that like it's crazy, that's that's final destination. And so 282 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,600 his death was pretty brutal, but it was, you know, 283 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,960 it was just enough to kind of entice you because 284 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 I'm wondering, Okay, what's the story going to be? How 285 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:49,399 what is what is their focus here? I always feel like, Okay, 286 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,399 they think they cheat death, but they never really do, 287 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,559 or like you go through the whole movie and at 288 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,480 the end it turns out like, oh, well no, it 289 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:57,320 hasn't even started yet. It's like, oh, we're all going 290 00:12:57,399 --> 00:12:59,120 to get off the ride or something like that. Like 291 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,759 they really like to derail deflect what your expectations are 292 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:06,480 in these movies. 293 00:13:06,799 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I've only seen one. And then 294 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:12,720 I supposedly as I think viewer non said that nothing 295 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,960 shown the Trap is actually a spoiler, So there you go. 296 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,840 I don't know if I'll see this. 297 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: I know Tony Todds and thell also be great to 298 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,600 see one of Tony Todd's last things, but I just 299 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:26,639 I don't care. I don't say don't care, so maybe 300 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,919 I should give them a chance. I'm not a fan 301 00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:34,240 of the antagonists being just like something like that, like 302 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,600 bad luck, like you can't kill it, you can't stop it. 303 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:36,799 Speaker 2: I know. 304 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure in the movie they're trying to find a way, 305 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,720 but it's not been the thing for me. And then 306 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:42,679 people will probably find that odd because I'm into the 307 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,519 Saw movies and I should like the kills, but it's 308 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,720 never done it for me. 309 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: So maybe I'll give them a go this time. I 310 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,399 won't be on a retro or anything like that. 311 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:52,799 Speaker 1: But maybe I'll give a go and watch I think 312 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:55,039 I've seen one, but maybe watch some other ones. But 313 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,240 I just yeah, I've never felt the need to go 314 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,399 further into them because it's just not a concept I enjoy. 315 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,159 But we'll see coming out, may see if it's a 316 00:14:04,159 --> 00:14:07,919 big hit or not. And then uh, Drastic World tailor, 317 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,320 we got some good stuff going on. I don't know 318 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,799 what good stuff, but I don't know. Do you want 319 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,480 me to set this up? 320 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to just go? What's what's the deal? 321 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,200 He tes? I need three minutes tonight. 322 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: Need three minutes. Yeah. 323 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,639 Speaker 1: I catched the opening of the show and I said, no, 324 00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:24,080 Tras is back, Baby, You're going last on the end. 325 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be its own cutout. 326 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,279 Speaker 3: So so yeah, I mean that sbubs dropped that that 327 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,120 article in a chat and I panicked when I when 328 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,240 I read it, but but I calmed down after I 329 00:14:34,279 --> 00:14:36,840 went I've read the Vanity Fair article and hoole, I 330 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,480 read a couple of times because I thought, okay, like 331 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:46,919 they first got the article, that's right, that was I've 332 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,399 been on the Jurassic Park train this whole week. I 333 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:51,840 watched the first one. I watched Drastic World Dominion, and 334 00:14:51,879 --> 00:14:55,600 I've gotten back into playing Drastic World evolution to just 335 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 living it up right now. It's a good time to 336 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 be a Jurassic Park fan. 337 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,759 Speaker 2: You know what, well, ladyship and he just took his 338 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,120 mask off. He's a dinosaur. 339 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,399 Speaker 3: I got that when I was in the States at targets. 340 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,159 Speaker 2: That was worth the ten seconds of dead air, you know. 341 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so yeah, this. 342 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: I'll talk. We'll get to their comments in a section continue. 343 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,519 Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, the movie though, I am. I am 344 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:32,600 very very excited for it. I'm excited to see this 345 00:15:32,679 --> 00:15:36,960 trailer now. The whole mention of them doing hybrids again, 346 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,600 that definitely brought me down a bit because I thought, Okay, 347 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,919 we've done that, like Dominion was moving off from that, 348 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,639 we weren't going into that pool again. 349 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Do you want to mention the specific types of hybrid, 350 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,240 what the inspiration was. 351 00:15:49,559 --> 00:15:52,159 Speaker 3: The inspiration was Xenomore from Alien the rank or from 352 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,399 the Jedi, and then just t Rex. But I understand 353 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,159 what they're going for and I'm not even gonna call 354 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:01,320 it a hybrid because this is very different. After reading 355 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,919 the Vanity Fair article, this is and if you don't 356 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,639 want to know the plot details just from what they 357 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:10,559 talked about in the article check back in like thirty seconds. 358 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: So sure, the trail is gonna give away a lot. 359 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, the trailer is gonna give it away, so we 360 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,120 know that there. I won't go into those other specifics, 361 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:20,879 but the basic narrative is they're going to this location 362 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,159 that is the site the first site of the genetic 363 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,679 testing for Jurassic Park thirty years ago. It's a very 364 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:27,799 old site and some of the things that they were 365 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:30,159 doing on here basically have been thriving in the area. 366 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,840 The site is abandoned by humans and engine and whatnot. 367 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:35,039 But we also learned that some of the stuff that 368 00:16:35,039 --> 00:16:41,440 they were creating necessarily was not great and like perfect creations. 369 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:45,919 So everything we've seen has been dinosaurs and then the 370 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,879 hybrids that they've intentionally been combining, like wraptor t rex 371 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,360 together boom and Dominus rex. That's it. They've mastered creating those, 372 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:56,559 but creation isn't always perfect right off the hop, and 373 00:16:57,039 --> 00:16:59,960 so what I like this is that it's not hybrid, 374 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:04,559 it's it's just mutated monstrosities. We're like, oh, we're gonna 375 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:06,839 we're gonna try and create a t rex, So let's 376 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,480 take this frog Edy name and put it into the 377 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,559 t Rex DNA and let's see what we get, and 378 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:15,160 the boom, they just get this fucking atrocious, horrific monster. 379 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,240 This thing is crazy. And they've hinted at that a 380 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,119 little bit in Camp Cretaceous where they had I can't 381 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,440 even remember the name of it, but it was like 382 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,200 a special kind of like raptor dinosaur thing and it 383 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,000 was very much just like a monster thing. It was 384 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,680 just not a dinosaur. I can get on board with that. 385 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:36,839 I think that this they have this ugly, weird, horrific, 386 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,279 horror looking thing. That's great. And I liked what they 387 00:17:39,279 --> 00:17:42,119 put in the Vanity Fair article about how they're talking 388 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,000 that the Jurassic World movies felt like it was much 389 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:51,839 more like, uh a kids movie. Did they say, like, no, 390 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,480 not it was. It was for kids, but more family oriented. 391 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:59,920 But then they said that more kids movies, kids movies. 392 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:04,519 But Gareth Edwards I think was addressing how the first 393 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:08,039 Trouser Park movie was more like like a family movie 394 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:10,359 in the Witness Protection Program or something like that, Like 395 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,359 it it's not like it's a scary movie and it 396 00:18:13,599 --> 00:18:16,000 has many scenes that terrify you. And I think that's 397 00:18:16,039 --> 00:18:18,039 again what Gareth was saying, like, with this movie, we 398 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:20,920 wanted to really really tackle that and really come down 399 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,440 on that, being like a like, this is gonna be 400 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,000 a very freaky, scary movie. And I'm so thankful for that, 401 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,319 because let's let's go for the Jurassic World movies. That 402 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,559 trilogy just kind of it went so far away from that, 403 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,119 with the exception of some select scenes in there that 404 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,839 were really really well done, like Fallen Kingdom's intro scene 405 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:40,720 on the island with the t Rex. That's probably the 406 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,400 best part of the whole movie, just because it's so 407 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,440 horrifically freaky and horror vibes. So there's that going forward too. 408 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,440 But the idea that we're getting like mutant mutated a 409 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,680 dinosaur here, we're getting spina sources back in, We're getting 410 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,680 t rex is in here, we're getting what could be 411 00:18:58,039 --> 00:19:00,799 the Megaladon. I'm gonna pull up a photo so you 412 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:02,319 can see it, Travis, because I want to know what 413 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,400 you think of this photo. 414 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,079 Speaker 2: Dinosaur expert right here. 415 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: So so people everyone's saying, mosesare in the bottom corner there, 416 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,599 there's three spinosaurs. Spinosaurus is around the boat. But that 417 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,480 to me looks like it could be a megalodon. I 418 00:19:20,519 --> 00:19:22,880 don't know, man, you know what you know what a 419 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,000 megalodon is. 420 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the big thing that eats a babysitter in 421 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,839 uh Drastic World, the first one. 422 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: No, that's the Moses meg Remember Jason stayed them big shark. 423 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: It's a megadome. Okay, So I think it's a shark. 424 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's a big shark. 425 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think it's the mosaurus. 426 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,319 Speaker 3: Well, people are saying it's moses saurus, which I hope 427 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:44,240 it is. I don't watch sharks in this movie. I 428 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,119 don't watch sharks. 429 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: But what. 430 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: If it's a shark just to get bought by the 431 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,480 uh the mosasaurus like Jurassic Park three style. 432 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: Oh then that's okay. Yeah, mosesare reigned supreme. Uh this 433 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:01,519 scene in or two, however, I think because they re 434 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,400 they reconfirmed that the not reconfirmed, they confirmed that that 435 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,839 scene that they couldn't do in the first movie. Is 436 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,920 that river Rats scene from the book that they're going 437 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,000 to be putting into here, which I'm speculating that this 438 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,559 this could be it. It could be a version of 439 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:17,319 it of some kind. 440 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,559 Speaker 1: But so you uploaded this Photo'm like well, how can 441 00:20:19,599 --> 00:20:21,920 I get rid of this photo? But you up, it's 442 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,400 saved now in our geek. 443 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: First fits in there, so I can just whip it 444 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,480 out whenever there, we'll see it tomorrow. 445 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know Taylor had that reaction to this news, 446 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,960 and then when I've saw the news, and then I've 447 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,160 saw the article, and then what Taylor said and all 448 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,160 this other stuff, I think, I'm still. 449 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: Look at me, you're excited, You're I have zero excitement 450 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:47,960 for this movie. Whatsoever. I will see it. 451 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: I will see it because I like Marshall Lee not 452 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,720 seeing it was blading time, and I like Edwards movies 453 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:58,119 for the most part. Uh. I really liked the creator, 454 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,720 I think more than a lot of other people. I 455 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,039 think Rogue One and God's They'll have some good things 456 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:05,799 about them, but honestly, I have problems with both them. 457 00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:09,720 We have reviews and retros of them. To me, you saying, oh, 458 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:13,680 it's it's not a hybrid, it's a it's a mutated thing. 459 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,839 That's a tomato tomato, that's a potato potato. That's well, 460 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,400 we didn't have sex, but I blew the guy. It 461 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,039 doesn't matter. It's it's it's gonna be a dinosaur that's 462 00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:28,640 not a dinosaur that looks fucking weird and messed up. 463 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,519 I think i'd be I think if this was a 464 00:21:31,559 --> 00:21:34,079 different movie, maybe i'd be more excited. 465 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: But I just feel like we're out of ideas and 466 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:37,839 k cool. 467 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: I guess, like I said this where I liked the 468 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,480 idea of okay, this was the Testing Island, not the island, 469 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,200 but the testing on it's all the worst stuff there. 470 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,559 But I also just think, like, if things went really bad, 471 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:49,759 why didn't they just kill them, you know, like not 472 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,960 don't let them grow up? Like why they lend these 473 00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:54,640 mutatings go around so already I'm just spending my disbelief 474 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,920 because it's also been so long, like why has the 475 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,359 island not been just bombed? And again, it's very tough, right, 476 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,880 I feel like the same way, not the exact same way. 477 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,960 But there's the people that you know, like love Last Jedi, 478 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,400 and then they got Rise of Skywalker, and clearly if 479 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,079 you love that, there's lots of things that film does 480 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,039 that you'd go, oh, I'm not a fan of this. 481 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,599 To me, we had talked about before and the last 482 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:19,400 movie literally ended with the whole setup of dinosaurs in 483 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,279 the wild what we're gonna do. We got that great 484 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:24,039 short film right of that family camping, and then they've 485 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:26,480 just said, like, oh, in this movie they found out 486 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:29,559 that dinosaurs they couldn't really survive in our world now, 487 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:32,279 so they went back and it's like, oh, well that's lame, 488 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:35,839 and we are we doing another People go there because 489 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,920 I guess they said what this is? They find out 490 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,000 that there's some strand in the dinosaurs that can cure 491 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:41,680 heart disease. 492 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: Right, So it's the. 493 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: Same thing as like Julian Moore going to an island 494 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,279 to do some stuff and then they get left behind 495 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:52,279 and something goes wrong and then there's no Wi Fi 496 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,559 and instead of dinosaurs, this time it's mutated dinosaurs, and 497 00:22:56,599 --> 00:22:58,039 that fucking blows to me. 498 00:22:58,319 --> 00:22:59,559 Speaker 2: I hope this. 499 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: I trust this director a lot more than Collin Trevarro. 500 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,640 I like the cast, so I'm going to go with 501 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,319 an open mind because I would like to enjoy it. 502 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,319 I like the idea of saying, oh, we're gonna make 503 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,400 more horror type of vibes. But I think with that franchise, 504 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,440 you can only go so long because they think or 505 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,680 so far because I think. 506 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: That, like. 507 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,519 Speaker 1: The way these are billion dollar movies those last year. 508 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:23,519 I think it's kind of similar to the Bay Transformer ones, 509 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:25,880 Like I don't know if the general audience is wanting 510 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960 a more horror based Drastic World, Like I think the 511 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:31,640 Drastic World horror levels that they go one that trilogy 512 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:33,319 is just the right amount for them. 513 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 514 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,839 Speaker 1: Like you say that, I'm like, oh, that sounds great, 515 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,480 and Garre saying them like, oh that sounds great. 516 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: But I don't know if. 517 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: The GA is clamoring for that, right, And I just 518 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:45,440 wonder if this movie, like it's gonna be interesting because 519 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,000 those last year all made a billion and I think 520 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:49,440 if it just makes it a little bit under or 521 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,480 still big hit, then they're fine. But if there's like 522 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,640 a big decline, I still think it has a lot 523 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,799 to do. If people are done not done. But I mean, 524 00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:58,960 like people didn't like that last like Dominion, so they're 525 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,319 not gonna come back. But still you'll never know, right, 526 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,079 So Yeah, I'm really curious how it goes. Finally, Spob 527 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,720 says giving me vibes like when the director of Dominion 528 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:13,079 said that one Dinosaur was like the Joker. Yeah, I 529 00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:13,519 I did not. 530 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,839 Speaker 2: Enjoy that interview. It just made me more and more worried, 531 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,440 so we'll see. 532 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: And I just feel like I'm surprised, I guess with 533 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,839 Drastic part because I feel like one of the main 534 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,039 things you didn't like in Romulus is exactly what you 535 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,680 explained here of that ending having something very mutated and 536 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,720 you're like, I don't know about this, Like don't you 537 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,920 think there's a chance if you see this mutating thing 538 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,119 or both things you make the same one the same 539 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,160 way when you're like, oh, Magalo don just doesn't fit. 540 00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:41,680 You know there's gonna moment where you see what they've created, 541 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:44,240 your go oh, this looks awful and you can't get 542 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,319 into the third like the third act is then't being 543 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,680 chased by this mutat t rext You're just like, oh, 544 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,599 I'm not digging this at all, Like it's just like 545 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,200 what if it's part human like they're gonna do in 546 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,400 Drastic Park four, where like I just feel like there 547 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:56,599 is lots of room for air when you get more 548 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,519 into the very sci fi. 549 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 3: There there is. There absolutely is that possibility of me 550 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:05,920 being completely turned off by whatever we get at the 551 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,839 end Romulus. That's for me. It's different because I would 552 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:14,440 have preferred it if it was just the xenomorphs and 553 00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,160 not necessarily all that black goop stuff and that that 554 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,400 thing at the end. But with this, it's like I 555 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:23,920 was never super opposed to the hybrids. I thought it 556 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,160 was cool with the adominous Rex and the indo raptor. 557 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Those were some cool things, but they weren't executed like 558 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:32,839 in the greatest of ways. I still think there's a 559 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359 lot more stuff you can do just with the regular dinosaurs. 560 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,799 And the idea here were Okay, they're gonna be trapped 561 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,359 on an islands, They're gonna have dinosaurs everywhere. This kind 562 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,759 of gives me Jurassic Park three vibes. Or they're stuck 563 00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:45,960 here and they have this old facility and all the 564 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,759 dinosaurs are running loose, which gets me very excited at 565 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,559 the fact that there's that. And then we have just, Okay, 566 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,960 these things that have been here genetically created that shouldn't 567 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,079 be shouldn't have been genetically created created, there's some mutated 568 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,039 abominations and they just have the thirty years just grow 569 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480 and evolve further. 570 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: The thing it's a thing from Romulus, Like. 571 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: It's just that that's the dinosta. 572 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Zeno more. I love Rahmin this I saw it. 573 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: It's like, get me that super Mike says, Fallen Kingdom 574 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,279 was not very well liked. To mean, he's still made 575 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:22,279 a billion though in that international money. 576 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 577 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: That's just why I was comparing it to Bays Transformers, 578 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,759 where you had that people just would turn out and 579 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:32,240 go and then eventually I think it was the Last Night, right, 580 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,680 Like I feel like it's like a big drop, let's 581 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,200 see last Night, Like eventually it catches up, right, eventually 582 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,279 people go, you know what? I even then it's still 583 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:45,480 a big hit. But like I think it was like 584 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:47,519 the first Transformers and then they all made a billion 585 00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:48,119 to the Last Night. 586 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,039 Speaker 2: The Last Night made six hundred million. 587 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Now again that's a big hit, and I can actually 588 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,559 see that being the trajectory of this. But then what 589 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,920 happened after Bumblebee Transformer one? What is the uh the 590 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Rise of the Beast? Did you ever see that Rise 591 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,519 of the Beast. 592 00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: One for it? 593 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: Oh? He did? Sorry about that. 594 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,839 Speaker 1: I never listened, But I'm excited for that Ga Joe 595 00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:10,640 movie that they still haven't fucking started to do. But 596 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:15,039 ever since then, like well then they just quickly check 597 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,880 like bumble Bee movie, let's just see the box office 598 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,440 numbers here because I remember it being like kind of 599 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:28,480 Light that made four hundred and sixty eight million Transformers one. 600 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,759 Speaker 2: That was a bomb. I you haven't watched the one yet, have. 601 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,519 Speaker 3: You Transformers one? 602 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: No? 603 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,519 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. 604 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: Oh I'm surprised. I hear nothing but good things. Everyone 605 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,880 just says it's like really good. I just haven't got 606 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,119 around to it. But I thought you would be all 607 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,839 over that. And then Rise of the Beast made four 608 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,279 forty so they're stuck in that, and like, you know what, 609 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,200 you know, some people might not like me to say it. 610 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,839 I think some people will agree with me. Some people 611 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,799 don't agree with me. 612 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: But for me. 613 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,839 Speaker 1: Another case that was BVS, where like all mass stills 614 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,839 at Billion Dollar Film, but for me BVS, I feel 615 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,000 like kind of sunk all the future stuff. 616 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: I know. 617 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: All the people are like, oh, Joss Wien's Justice League. 618 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,759 This it wasn't Zach stuff. 619 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. 620 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,279 Speaker 1: I used to see these movies with a lot of people, 621 00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,279 and then we saw BVS with my friends group, and 622 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,440 then when JUSTE League rolled around, they weren't seeing it 623 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,119 and it wasn't because they're like, well, you know, Joss 624 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,799 Wallen's trucking this just like no, that last. 625 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: One was bad. 626 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: So Mike, you're right, and I suppose, yeah, they would 627 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,599 get five million from five hundred million from China, absolutely right. 628 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,559 But what does happen is eventually there's one movie that 629 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:31,319 starts the crater right, and to me BVS was a 630 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:31,680 bit of that. 631 00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: You had still some hits to It's called. 632 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,079 Speaker 1: Won Women by Me like overall, but with the Bay stuff, 633 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,400 it was like whatever, what was before Last Night? 634 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,519 Speaker 2: Taylor? What was the movie before that? Extinction something? 635 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,559 Speaker 1: Rise of Extension Agity, Yeah, that was the one that 636 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,279 clearly they put that out. That's the first one with 637 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,279 Marky Mark right, Yes, yeah, they put that out, and 638 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:54,279 then clearly people started the taper off because they didn't 639 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:55,359 come back as much for. 640 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: Last Night and then Bumblebee and then Rise the Beast. 641 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: So that's where I wonder if Dominion could be that right, 642 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,359 especially Dominion. You gotta remember it had to bump and 643 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,960 bring the original cast back. It's a lot different. 644 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,279 Speaker 2: I wonder if do do you think Dominion makes a. 645 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: Billion tailor if Sam Neil and Laura Dern are back 646 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,400 or aren't back? Because I don't I'd not say to bombs, 647 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,519 but I don't think it makes a billion. 648 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,799 Speaker 3: That's tricky to say. 649 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,759 Speaker 2: That brought a lot of people like myself. 650 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: That brought people like me that like I'm done with 651 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,279 these movies and like Sam Neil's back, all right, I 652 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:32,519 gotta see this, you know so and he was still 653 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:33,279 good and that's a good thing. 654 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:34,519 Speaker 2: They're all enjoyable, So. 655 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: It'll be cool to see though, how this is set up? 656 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,160 Is this, you know, rebirth just implies like, hey, we're 657 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,079 going a whole new plethora of movies. I really thought 658 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,839 Dominion was the last one. So how this movie does 659 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,119 like storyline wise, or we can get another trilogy? Is 660 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,839 this just one off like an anthology? I don't know. 661 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,039 But I'm gonna have to finish or start and finish 662 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Chaos Theory on Netflix so you can kind of catch 663 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:00,880 up with this story Rene here. 664 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Right, and you saw the creator, right, yeah, Edwards last movie. Yeah, 665 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,079 and that's something he shot on like a small camera. 666 00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:09,160 It was a budget of eighty million. That's the thing 667 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:12,119 where like if they can keep this, obviously they're gonna 668 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,960 be big dinosaurs. But if they can keep this down 669 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,440 a lot, I think it's gonna be a profit so. 670 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: Uh Jurassic World four oh interesting with a budget of 671 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,279 twitter and sixty five million? 672 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Was this? 673 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:26,359 Speaker 2: Sorry? 674 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: Tunar and sixty five million is what I'm seeing on here. 675 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:30,920 I don't know if that's. 676 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that yet. I would wait till we're 677 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400 closer to that. I don't know if they'd have a 678 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,920 budget there yet. So well, Aziman, that is it for 679 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,720 this episode. Thank you very much for tuning in here 680 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,200 for us. Next won't be boring.