Speaker 1: Stalton Toler says an as AI is a big topic
in the movie world right now, with most people being
against it for various reasons. Do you see any pausiti
that AI can bring to the movie making experience or
is it all bad?
Speaker 2: To start with that, I.
Speaker 3: Think that AI is not all bad. I think that
there are definitely places for it, but we need to
be careful with it. I'm not saying like, oh, hey,
I is going to take over the world and kill
people and yeah, yeah, Terminator Sky. In that, I am
implying the fact that I think we live in a
world where we are still struggling to keep up with technology,
and I think that technology has now rapidly outpaced humans
in terms of working the employment line. And there's a
lot of jobs out there that people are easily going
to get replaced for, and there's a lot of employers
that will jump on this opportunity to use technology to
produce costs, cut costs and get physical labor out of
the way, because physical labor is not cheap, it's expensive,
and they're workers comp tons of stuff, paid stats whatever,
lots of problems for an employer. And we don't live
in an age where most employers really care about their employees.
I think that, you know, you have smaller tie like
businesses and stuff like that, and there are more family,
community oriented companies out there, for sure, but I think
there's a lot of more mainline companies that just they
don't give a shit about you. You're just an employee
to them, so they're gonna easily just scrap you to
the side and get AI in there to start handling
all of these tedious workloads. My point is, I think
that we have we've got AI that's just boom like
bloomed out of proportion here, and it's just taken the
world by storm, and we don't have the proper precautions
and barriers set up to protect people from this because
it's just popped up so fast and so unprecedented. It's
I mean, it's it's crazy what you can do, like
with with my phone with it at least I don't
know if you can do with older models. With that
one sixteen, I can take a photo of something and
in that photo, chatchept will actually like scan it and
tell me everything it's in the photo and dissect it.
I can be like I can take a photo of.
Speaker 2: A b I can stop it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. But I can take a photo of
a B and be like what kind of B is
this and chat cheept like, oh this B is so
and so from this here this region. Yeah yah yeaha
it's crazy. Uh So there are places where this can
come in handy using AI. But when it comes to
stuff like film, uh, I'm biased because I think that
practical effects should still be used greatly in movies. And
so when you have AI to refine like scenery and
stuff like in The Brutalist when they used it to
work on the backgrounds, I think a little bit. I'm
not a big fan of that. I think that again,
AI needs to be kind of kept in check. There's
a lot of people that I know that you know,
being a graphic designer and seeing AI just generate logos
and then having a lot of people to work on
excelling their skills at being illustrators and artists, and then
AI just comes in and just like thirty seconds whip
something up. It's like hod damn, Like it's just gonna
put these poor people out of business. These people have
spent years mastering this craft and they're very talented. So
that's that's where I am. I'm kind of biased on it.
There's there's there's give and take with it, and we
just need to find that balance.
Speaker 2: It's awful get rid of it all. Uh No, like
it's tough.
Speaker 1: I think for me where I am with Ai, I
like it for the things you talked about with you know,
taking picture being what is this like I like certain
quality of life things, but it's something of like it
happens and it helps me go, oh, that's cool, but
not to the extent of and I know because I
can't remember where I think you can talk about a
bit on after nine. But you know, Clay and dealing
with the brutalist thing had more of a issue with
like the drawings and landscapes and not so much with
the voice tuning right, And that's where it's tricky for
me because I always had more issue with the voices
because and this is where for them not as much,
right because even Clays like, oh, I don't care about
the oscars, but someone like myself who like I kind
of care, like like it depends the year, but like
it's not I don't care about as much, but still
I'm interested in and to me, if I'm looking as
far as a voting process, right, and if you have
an actor, you have five categories.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's down to two actors and both of
them are doing voices, and one's voice is you know,
their natural voice, doing an accent, and one is doing
an accent as well as I can. But then there's
some touch ups and that leans people to go, oh,
you know what, maybe I'll give them my vote. And
that's where it's to me, it's the worry of the snowball.
I think there's certain things and even like I think
Dylan said this on Afternight, it's like like technically there's
stuff like if there's there's been versions of AI all
throughout our past twenty years, but we don't call me AI,
even like myself when I upload casts when we got
lots of different mics, Like it's different with us, but
with the gimmick I'll use for example, right, me, I
suppose and David are all using different mics. It's different
for us because you, me and Kirk all using sures
and then Dylan's getting a sure. So we usually even
if it's audio levels, we sound pretty similar. But I
use something on pound coup Pro. It's like surround compressor
and I just do that and right away does all
the checks and bounts. So technically you should say, well, Travis,
you should be doing that and like going each and
editing everything like that.
Speaker 2: But I don't have the time for that.
Speaker 1: But I also know, like this is not like like that's.
Speaker 2: The difference where with Kirkland's ADR and Adrenochrome. I sat
there for days tinkering at that I didn't want and
I'm sure there's some programs out there and maybe that's
somewhere again that someone could use that against me as
far as hey, you use that's that's AI. There's some
issues there, and that's where I go. I think I'm fine.
Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, it doesn't matter. Like the caadegy
words already nominate people. If the brutalless wins, that's the
stamp approval. My worry is, oh, you know, like Agent
Brody and something's changed his voice. What happens if it's
like and they're like, oh, it's a few lines, But
then what happens when the movie comes by and it's like, well,
it's a you know, a few more scenes and then
it's a section, and that's a whole movie, like you
saw a Napoleon right, eventually? Right with Walking Phoenix, that
man has no bush accent whatsoever. Right, it's just him
being himself. Now, what happens take that movie and they
go walk and say, I can't do that hype of accent,
and they go, well, you know what, you're just gonna
speak regular. But at the end of the movie, we're
gonna throw a filter on there and the entire movie
you're gonna be British or what is He's French? Actually sorry,
he's screwed that up. He's French, right, And that's what
I worry as far as if people give the handwave
of like, oh that's fine, and that's fine. Eventually people
just take take a take and then it'll just become
the norm. And if that's kind of what happened with CGI, right,
and that's tough because there lots of time that still
employs people. Right, But that you could even have that
argument of I could be wrong, but let's say to
make it to bring Aliens back, and I think it's
let's just go Aliens is the first time.
Speaker 2: The mother the queen xenomorph appears? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could be wrong, So I might be speaking
my ass there, but I bet it took more people
to practically make that than it would for someone.
Speaker 2: To animate that.
Speaker 1: Right, it might make I'm not even talking about the time.
I'm just saying you could probably find someone in the
world that is the best CGI person. You know, I
could make the Queen Zeno morph, and then technically that
put all those practical people out of work. Right, So
we've been here before in a different way. This is
just like a complete computer now doing it. So I
think it's something that, unfortunately we have to accept. I
think it is gonna be something that's gonna get abused.
I think there's levels of and even to myself, I'm like,
I think, then if you use it in a film,
that should definitely be you should say that. And maybe
there's some situations like the Oscars or other words, where
maybe that takes out of contention. But then it's tough
if something's so great, like where do you draw the line?
And that's tough with a lot of things. Right, I'm
not gonna draw the line of not watching something if
I'm interested in it, because if I were to do
that with everything, I wouldn't be watching almost anything. I
wouldn't be watching this phone because I'm sure the people
that made this phone weren't just like you know, working
for good hours and good labor, you know. Like that's
the thing, Like there's so much stuff that we use
in our day life that it's tough where and I
want to do an after bred butter about this of
like where you draw the line on certain things or
how or how do you do it? Because at some
point there's just too much of it. So that's where
I think we unfortunately have to accept it. I think
I just don't want it to get abused and it
just be replaced, like I will never here's the difference.
I will never like, hey, I made this Batman film
completely AI, I'm not watching that if it's one of
those things not for me, Like I've seen some ofos
and don't get me wrong, every year those things get
more and more impressive, the photos, the videos they and
that's what have you seen it going around?
Speaker 2: Maybe you should search on Actually I might.
Speaker 1: I don't want to pull it up because he actually
could get just pulled off there or something like that.
Have you seen the Evil Dead opening recreated?
Speaker 2: AI?
Speaker 1: No, So it's like whenever it happens in the Eel
Dead when it's like the spirits or whatever, and it's
like they're pointing a few and they're going through the
woods and they go to the cabin. Someone recreated that
with AI and that's where for me it's like okay,
And even with scoring films appreciating them, that's where people
showed the comparison.
Speaker 2: I like, look at what these four guys did in
the eighties.
Speaker 1: One guy has a board strap to them, the camera's there.
I'm always gonna respect that and I'm always going to
give that higher grades.
Speaker 2: You can use AI.
Speaker 1: Of course, it might make it better, or it might
make it easier, might make it faster, But if I
know someone did it practical and worked harder, especially because
that's what we do right now.
Speaker 2: That's because like Shoestring Budget were independent filmmakers.
Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm always going to lean to the
hard work, even if it doesn't look as crisp. You know,
there's more blood, sweat and tears poured in that than
just a simple click of a button, which again everyone's
kind of guilty of it. Right, So it's a it's
a tough situation and we'll have to see how goes
going forward. But that's my worry of the brutalist having
a few AI things, even if they're minor, and then
it wins best Picture. I feel like it's kind of
all bets are off at that point.
Speaker 2: I feel like it it is the start of a ball.
Speaker 1: And then soon I'm sure some big film's gonna use
it like a billion.
Speaker 2: Dollar like other films already do.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, a secret war something's gonna use
it and then boom, and.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it can be a tool. You can
use it.
Speaker 1: But I get there why there's a certain eck around it,
and I have a certain ick around it too, and
I think it just comes to different parts of it.
Speaker 2: So let's see my apple mic ruining the show.
Speaker 1: She went, I don't think it's ruining the show as
but I always edited the I think it's just because you,
me and David are a different audio, and I always
fix it and pose live.
Speaker 2: I tried.
Speaker 1: I'm always tinkering with it. It's just tough because we
all different mics. But you know, we'll get your bare
mic down line there and Toldon says, I definitely thought
about it on the CGI practical effects level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's tough situation. So uh taya. You can
end this portion of the episode with did you find
that evil dead thing? Did you see that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, he didn't even look. He didn't care.
Speaker 1: He's like, gohever, try to talking about I'm gonna go
back to my porn. What do you think of the
Final Destination trailer? And then what do you think about
dress World? Because I know the trailer, but they gave
us some images and lots and lots of details of
what's happening in this movie.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Final Destination. I don't even know if I've
seen all of them. I just remember. I just remember
being traumatized as a kid. This is a movie franchise
that's till to this day. When I enter certain scenarios
in life, a lot of these movies. Yeah, log truck, Escalator,
tanning booth. Not necessarily, but it just pops in my
head when I see it, because you don't you don't go,
I don't tam, but whenever I see a tanning booth,
it just pops in my mind. But Escalator especially, Yeah,
there's just a few things, and it's I remember there
was a train with a chain on it, and like
cut a guy's head off or something like that might
be the first one. Anyways, I digress. The movies definitely
have a certain place in my heart for not in
like a good way, but just a it's a traumatizing thing.
And so I thought, oh, man, like this new trailer,
let's watch it, Let's see what happens. And yeah, it was, Uh,
it was. It was exactly how I expected it was
going to go, because it's just this, this whole thing
is his master plan and it's almost warline supernatural with
how things are mapped out and planned. But it's at
the same time it's not because the guy is kind
of like he's playing his music and the speakers are
making things fall over and that leads to like something
else lighting on fire, and it's just so tactically planned
that like it's crazy, that's that's final destination. And so
his death was pretty brutal, but it was, you know,
it was just enough to kind of entice you because
I'm wondering, Okay, what's the story going to be? How
what is what is their focus here? I always feel like, Okay,
they think they cheat death, but they never really do,
or like you go through the whole movie and at
the end it turns out like, oh, well no, it
hasn't even started yet. It's like, oh, we're all going
to get off the ride or something like that. Like
they really like to derail deflect what your expectations are
in these movies.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I've only seen one. And then
I supposedly as I think viewer non said that nothing
shown the Trap is actually a spoiler, So there you go.
I don't know if I'll see this.
Speaker 1: I know Tony Todds and thell also be great to
see one of Tony Todd's last things, but I just
I don't care. I don't say don't care, so maybe
I should give them a chance. I'm not a fan
of the antagonists being just like something like that, like
bad luck, like you can't kill it, you can't stop it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure in the movie they're trying to find a way,
but it's not been the thing for me. And then
people will probably find that odd because I'm into the
Saw movies and I should like the kills, but it's
never done it for me.
Speaker 2: So maybe I'll give them a go this time. I
won't be on a retro or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'll give a go and watch I think
I've seen one, but maybe watch some other ones. But
I just yeah, I've never felt the need to go
further into them because it's just not a concept I enjoy.
But we'll see coming out, may see if it's a
big hit or not. And then uh, Drastic World tailor,
we got some good stuff going on. I don't know
what good stuff, but I don't know. Do you want
me to set this up?
Speaker 2: Do you want to just go? What's what's the deal?
He tes? I need three minutes tonight.
Speaker 3: Need three minutes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I catched the opening of the show and I said, no,
Tras is back, Baby, You're going last on the end.
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be its own cutout.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, I mean that sbubs dropped that that
article in a chat and I panicked when I when
I read it, but but I calmed down after I
went I've read the Vanity Fair article and hoole, I
read a couple of times because I thought, okay, like
they first got the article, that's right, that was I've
been on the Jurassic Park train this whole week. I
watched the first one. I watched Drastic World Dominion, and
I've gotten back into playing Drastic World evolution to just
living it up right now. It's a good time to
be a Jurassic Park fan.
Speaker 2: You know what, well, ladyship and he just took his
mask off. He's a dinosaur.
Speaker 3: I got that when I was in the States at targets.
Speaker 2: That was worth the ten seconds of dead air, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so yeah, this.
Speaker 2: I'll talk. We'll get to their comments in a section continue.
Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, the movie though, I am. I am
very very excited for it. I'm excited to see this
trailer now. The whole mention of them doing hybrids again,
that definitely brought me down a bit because I thought, Okay,
we've done that, like Dominion was moving off from that,
we weren't going into that pool again.
Speaker 2: Do you want to mention the specific types of hybrid,
what the inspiration was.
Speaker 3: The inspiration was Xenomore from Alien the rank or from
the Jedi, and then just t Rex. But I understand
what they're going for and I'm not even gonna call
it a hybrid because this is very different. After reading
the Vanity Fair article, this is and if you don't
want to know the plot details just from what they
talked about in the article check back in like thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: So sure, the trail is gonna give away a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the trailer is gonna give it away, so we
know that there. I won't go into those other specifics,
but the basic narrative is they're going to this location
that is the site the first site of the genetic
testing for Jurassic Park thirty years ago. It's a very
old site and some of the things that they were
doing on here basically have been thriving in the area.
The site is abandoned by humans and engine and whatnot.
But we also learned that some of the stuff that
they were creating necessarily was not great and like perfect creations.
So everything we've seen has been dinosaurs and then the
hybrids that they've intentionally been combining, like wraptor t rex
together boom and Dominus rex. That's it. They've mastered creating those,
but creation isn't always perfect right off the hop, and
so what I like this is that it's not hybrid,
it's it's just mutated monstrosities. We're like, oh, we're gonna
we're gonna try and create a t rex, So let's
take this frog Edy name and put it into the
t Rex DNA and let's see what we get, and
the boom, they just get this fucking atrocious, horrific monster.
This thing is crazy. And they've hinted at that a
little bit in Camp Cretaceous where they had I can't
even remember the name of it, but it was like
a special kind of like raptor dinosaur thing and it
was very much just like a monster thing. It was
just not a dinosaur. I can get on board with that.
I think that this they have this ugly, weird, horrific,
horror looking thing. That's great. And I liked what they
put in the Vanity Fair article about how they're talking
that the Jurassic World movies felt like it was much
more like, uh a kids movie. Did they say, like, no,
not it was. It was for kids, but more family oriented.
But then they said that more kids movies, kids movies.
But Gareth Edwards I think was addressing how the first
Trouser Park movie was more like like a family movie
in the Witness Protection Program or something like that, Like
it it's not like it's a scary movie and it
has many scenes that terrify you. And I think that's
again what Gareth was saying, like, with this movie, we
wanted to really really tackle that and really come down
on that, being like a like, this is gonna be
a very freaky, scary movie. And I'm so thankful for that,
because let's let's go for the Jurassic World movies. That
trilogy just kind of it went so far away from that,
with the exception of some select scenes in there that
were really really well done, like Fallen Kingdom's intro scene
on the island with the t Rex. That's probably the
best part of the whole movie, just because it's so
horrifically freaky and horror vibes. So there's that going forward too.
But the idea that we're getting like mutant mutated a
dinosaur here, we're getting spina sources back in, We're getting
t rex is in here, we're getting what could be
the Megaladon. I'm gonna pull up a photo so you
can see it, Travis, because I want to know what
you think of this photo.
Speaker 2: Dinosaur expert right here.
Speaker 3: So so people everyone's saying, mosesare in the bottom corner there,
there's three spinosaurs. Spinosaurus is around the boat. But that
to me looks like it could be a megalodon. I
don't know, man, you know what you know what a
megalodon is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the big thing that eats a babysitter in
uh Drastic World, the first one.
Speaker 3: No, that's the Moses meg Remember Jason stayed them big shark.
Speaker 2: It's a megadome. Okay, So I think it's a shark.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's a big shark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think it's the mosaurus.
Speaker 3: Well, people are saying it's moses saurus, which I hope
it is. I don't watch sharks in this movie. I
don't watch sharks.
Speaker 2: But what.
Speaker 1: If it's a shark just to get bought by the
uh the mosasaurus like Jurassic Park three style.
Speaker 3: Oh then that's okay. Yeah, mosesare reigned supreme. Uh this
scene in or two, however, I think because they re
they reconfirmed that the not reconfirmed, they confirmed that that
scene that they couldn't do in the first movie. Is
that river Rats scene from the book that they're going
to be putting into here, which I'm speculating that this
this could be it. It could be a version of
it of some kind.
Speaker 1: But so you uploaded this Photo'm like well, how can
I get rid of this photo? But you up, it's
saved now in our geek.
Speaker 3: First fits in there, so I can just whip it
out whenever there, we'll see it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Well, you know Taylor had that reaction to this news,
and then when I've saw the news, and then I've
saw the article, and then what Taylor said and all
this other stuff, I think, I'm still.
Speaker 2: Look at me, you're excited, You're I have zero excitement
for this movie. Whatsoever. I will see it.
Speaker 1: I will see it because I like Marshall Lee not
seeing it was blading time, and I like Edwards movies
for the most part. Uh. I really liked the creator,
I think more than a lot of other people. I
think Rogue One and God's They'll have some good things
about them, but honestly, I have problems with both them.
We have reviews and retros of them. To me, you saying, oh,
it's it's not a hybrid, it's a it's a mutated thing.
That's a tomato tomato, that's a potato potato. That's well,
we didn't have sex, but I blew the guy. It
doesn't matter. It's it's it's gonna be a dinosaur that's
not a dinosaur that looks fucking weird and messed up.
I think i'd be I think if this was a
different movie, maybe i'd be more excited.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like we're out of ideas and
k cool.
Speaker 1: I guess, like I said this where I liked the
idea of okay, this was the Testing Island, not the island,
but the testing on it's all the worst stuff there.
But I also just think, like, if things went really bad,
why didn't they just kill them, you know, like not
don't let them grow up? Like why they lend these
mutatings go around so already I'm just spending my disbelief
because it's also been so long, like why has the
island not been just bombed? And again, it's very tough, right,
I feel like the same way, not the exact same way.
But there's the people that you know, like love Last Jedi,
and then they got Rise of Skywalker, and clearly if
you love that, there's lots of things that film does
that you'd go, oh, I'm not a fan of this.
To me, we had talked about before and the last
movie literally ended with the whole setup of dinosaurs in
the wild what we're gonna do. We got that great
short film right of that family camping, and then they've
just said, like, oh, in this movie they found out
that dinosaurs they couldn't really survive in our world now,
so they went back and it's like, oh, well that's lame,
and we are we doing another People go there because
I guess they said what this is? They find out
that there's some strand in the dinosaurs that can cure
heart disease.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's the.
Speaker 1: Same thing as like Julian Moore going to an island
to do some stuff and then they get left behind
and something goes wrong and then there's no Wi Fi
and instead of dinosaurs, this time it's mutated dinosaurs, and
that fucking blows to me.
Speaker 2: I hope this.
Speaker 1: I trust this director a lot more than Collin Trevarro.
I like the cast, so I'm going to go with
an open mind because I would like to enjoy it.
I like the idea of saying, oh, we're gonna make
more horror type of vibes. But I think with that franchise,
you can only go so long because they think or
so far because I think.
Speaker 2: That, like.
Speaker 1: The way these are billion dollar movies those last year.
I think it's kind of similar to the Bay Transformer ones,
Like I don't know if the general audience is wanting
a more horror based Drastic World, Like I think the
Drastic World horror levels that they go one that trilogy
is just the right amount for them.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like you say that, I'm like, oh, that sounds great,
and Garre saying them like, oh that sounds great.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if.
Speaker 1: The GA is clamoring for that, right, And I just
wonder if this movie, like it's gonna be interesting because
those last year all made a billion and I think
if it just makes it a little bit under or
still big hit, then they're fine. But if there's like
a big decline, I still think it has a lot
to do. If people are done not done. But I mean,
like people didn't like that last like Dominion, so they're
not gonna come back. But still you'll never know, right,
So Yeah, I'm really curious how it goes. Finally, Spob
says giving me vibes like when the director of Dominion
said that one Dinosaur was like the Joker. Yeah, I
I did not.
Speaker 2: Enjoy that interview. It just made me more and more worried,
so we'll see.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like I'm surprised, I guess with
Drastic part because I feel like one of the main
things you didn't like in Romulus is exactly what you
explained here of that ending having something very mutated and
you're like, I don't know about this, Like don't you
think there's a chance if you see this mutating thing
or both things you make the same one the same
way when you're like, oh, Magalo don just doesn't fit.
You know there's gonna moment where you see what they've created,
your go oh, this looks awful and you can't get
into the third like the third act is then't being
chased by this mutat t rext You're just like, oh,
I'm not digging this at all, Like it's just like
what if it's part human like they're gonna do in
Drastic Park four, where like I just feel like there
is lots of room for air when you get more
into the very sci fi.
Speaker 3: There there is. There absolutely is that possibility of me
being completely turned off by whatever we get at the
end Romulus. That's for me. It's different because I would
have preferred it if it was just the xenomorphs and
not necessarily all that black goop stuff and that that
thing at the end. But with this, it's like I
was never super opposed to the hybrids. I thought it
was cool with the adominous Rex and the indo raptor.
Those were some cool things, but they weren't executed like
in the greatest of ways. I still think there's a
lot more stuff you can do just with the regular dinosaurs.
And the idea here were Okay, they're gonna be trapped
on an islands, They're gonna have dinosaurs everywhere. This kind
of gives me Jurassic Park three vibes. Or they're stuck
here and they have this old facility and all the
dinosaurs are running loose, which gets me very excited at
the fact that there's that. And then we have just, Okay,
these things that have been here genetically created that shouldn't
be shouldn't have been genetically created created, there's some mutated
abominations and they just have the thirty years just grow
and evolve further.
Speaker 2: The thing it's a thing from Romulus, Like.
Speaker 3: It's just that that's the dinosta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Zeno more. I love Rahmin this I saw it.
Speaker 1: It's like, get me that super Mike says, Fallen Kingdom
was not very well liked. To mean, he's still made
a billion though in that international money.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: That's just why I was comparing it to Bays Transformers,
where you had that people just would turn out and
go and then eventually I think it was the Last Night, right,
Like I feel like it's like a big drop, let's
see last Night, Like eventually it catches up, right, eventually
people go, you know what? I even then it's still
a big hit. But like I think it was like
the first Transformers and then they all made a billion
to the Last Night.
Speaker 2: The Last Night made six hundred million.
Speaker 1: Now again that's a big hit, and I can actually
see that being the trajectory of this. But then what
happened after Bumblebee Transformer one? What is the uh the
Rise of the Beast? Did you ever see that Rise
of the Beast.
Speaker 3: One for it?
Speaker 2: Oh? He did? Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I never listened, But I'm excited for that Ga Joe
movie that they still haven't fucking started to do. But
ever since then, like well then they just quickly check
like bumble Bee movie, let's just see the box office
numbers here because I remember it being like kind of
Light that made four hundred and sixty eight million Transformers one.
Speaker 2: That was a bomb. I you haven't watched the one yet, have.
Speaker 3: You Transformers one?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm surprised. I hear nothing but good things. Everyone
just says it's like really good. I just haven't got
around to it. But I thought you would be all
over that. And then Rise of the Beast made four
forty so they're stuck in that, and like, you know what,
you know, some people might not like me to say it.
I think some people will agree with me. Some people
don't agree with me.
Speaker 2: But for me.
Speaker 1: Another case that was BVS, where like all mass stills
at Billion Dollar Film, but for me BVS, I feel
like kind of sunk all the future stuff.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: All the people are like, oh, Joss Wien's Justice League.
This it wasn't Zach stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I used to see these movies with a lot of people,
and then we saw BVS with my friends group, and
then when JUSTE League rolled around, they weren't seeing it
and it wasn't because they're like, well, you know, Joss
Wallen's trucking this just like no, that last.
Speaker 2: One was bad.
Speaker 1: So Mike, you're right, and I suppose, yeah, they would
get five million from five hundred million from China, absolutely right.
But what does happen is eventually there's one movie that
starts the crater right, and to me BVS was a
bit of that.
Speaker 2: You had still some hits to It's called.
Speaker 1: Won Women by Me like overall, but with the Bay stuff,
it was like whatever, what was before Last Night?
Speaker 2: Taylor? What was the movie before that? Extinction something?
Speaker 1: Rise of Extension Agity, Yeah, that was the one that
clearly they put that out. That's the first one with
Marky Mark right, Yes, yeah, they put that out, and
then clearly people started the taper off because they didn't
come back as much for.
Speaker 2: Last Night and then Bumblebee and then Rise the Beast.
Speaker 1: So that's where I wonder if Dominion could be that right,
especially Dominion. You gotta remember it had to bump and
bring the original cast back. It's a lot different.
Speaker 2: I wonder if do do you think Dominion makes a.
Speaker 1: Billion tailor if Sam Neil and Laura Dern are back
or aren't back? Because I don't I'd not say to bombs,
but I don't think it makes a billion.
Speaker 3: That's tricky to say.
Speaker 2: That brought a lot of people like myself.
Speaker 1: That brought people like me that like I'm done with
these movies and like Sam Neil's back, all right, I
gotta see this, you know so and he was still
good and that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: They're all enjoyable, So.
Speaker 3: It'll be cool to see though, how this is set up?
Is this, you know, rebirth just implies like, hey, we're
going a whole new plethora of movies. I really thought
Dominion was the last one. So how this movie does
like storyline wise, or we can get another trilogy? Is
this just one off like an anthology? I don't know.
But I'm gonna have to finish or start and finish
Chaos Theory on Netflix so you can kind of catch
up with this story Rene here.
Speaker 1: Right, and you saw the creator, right, yeah, Edwards last movie. Yeah,
and that's something he shot on like a small camera.
It was a budget of eighty million. That's the thing
where like if they can keep this, obviously they're gonna
be big dinosaurs. But if they can keep this down
a lot, I think it's gonna be a profit so.
Speaker 3: Uh Jurassic World four oh interesting with a budget of
twitter and sixty five million?
Speaker 1: Was this?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Tunar and sixty five million is what I'm seeing on here.
I don't know if that's.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that yet. I would wait till we're
closer to that. I don't know if they'd have a
budget there yet. So well, Aziman, that is it for
this episode. Thank you very much for tuning in here
for us. Next won't be boring.