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Speaker 4: one two five seven ninety once again, that's seven one
Speaker 4: three two, one two five seven nine zero. Heard Doug
Speaker 4: Pike as he was jumping off the of his show
Speaker 4: talking about Monday. They're at the Golf Club of Houston,
Speaker 4: Saint Jude Golf Tournament. Yep, I'm gonna be playing with Doug,
Speaker 4: Gonna looking forward to it, Gonna have a good time.
Speaker 4: And he was telling Melvin to tell me that, you know,
Speaker 4: I need to be able to get out there today,
Speaker 4: hit the range, be able to hit some practice balls,
Speaker 4: do all of that. So, Doug, if you're still listening,
Speaker 4: I'll have to do that tomorrow because I've got a
Speaker 4: rule when it comes to golf. Is the number one
Speaker 4: rule that I'm steadfast on. I mean, I do not
Speaker 4: break off this rule. I want to enjoy myself when
Speaker 4: I'm playing golf. Wet and cold. That ain't the way.
Speaker 4: And shout out to my future brother and father in law.
Speaker 4: They're both out on a golf course this morning in
Speaker 4: a tournament, and I actually, about five minutes before the
Speaker 4: show texted them and was like, you guys aren't still playing,
Speaker 4: are you? And they're like, oh, yeah, we're out here.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that is just brutal, man. I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like golf and baseball are kind of the
Speaker 4: same way where I mean, if you ever grew up
Speaker 4: playing baseball, and I mean even around these parts where
Speaker 4: I mean I grew up here, I think most of
Speaker 4: us did too as well. You could always count on
Speaker 4: those early season scrimmages or even the early season games.
Speaker 4: Maybe you had like a tournament or two over a
Speaker 4: weekend where you would have that cold snap come through
Speaker 4: in about the early to mid part of February, and
Speaker 4: it's brutal man. I mean, if you're out in the field,
Speaker 4: your pitcher is not throwing strikes, you're having to stand around,
Speaker 4: so the colds kind of getting to you a little bit.
Speaker 4: Maybe it had rained, but it didn't saw it didn't
Speaker 4: soak up the field enough for the game to get banged.
Speaker 4: So you got to get out there and play. And
Speaker 4: especially too, in baseball, you wear one off barrel like
Speaker 4: on the inside of the bat right there, and it
Speaker 4: rattles you a little bit with that aluminum bat. Oh
Speaker 4: that's not fun. Golf's kind of the same way too.
Speaker 4: You hit a fat shot right there, the hands start
Speaker 4: to ring. You're really just hoping for good iron strikes
Speaker 4: on the on the course that day and to be
Speaker 4: able to get through and then at the end of it,
Speaker 4: probably instead of the golden soda at the end that
Speaker 4: you felt like you earned, you're probably going to the
Speaker 4: harder stuff to be able to try to warm you
Speaker 4: up a little bit, or maybe even before you get
Speaker 4: out there, you might want to do a shot or
Speaker 4: two before you get out there to kind of give
Speaker 4: yourself a little extra energy, a little extra swing.
Speaker 3: Juice.
Speaker 4: So anyway, Doug, I will be ready for Monday. We're
Speaker 4: gonna have some fun. It's gonna be a great cause.
Speaker 4: Of course, if you're listening to us here on Sports
Speaker 4: Talk seven ninety the last couple of days, the Saint
Speaker 4: Jude Radio Telethon with us Sunday ninety nine point one
Speaker 4: ninety four to five, the Buzz, the beats everybody pretty
Speaker 4: much as part of our iHeart family of stations. We
Speaker 4: did a great job and we were able to raise
Speaker 4: a ton of money because just quick note on this
Speaker 4: before we get into sports, because I know that a
Speaker 4: lot of you want to get into that, but you know,
Speaker 4: being able to do this every single year for Saint
Speaker 4: Jude is something that is a really cool thing for
Speaker 4: us to be able to do because I mean, I
Speaker 4: think most.
Speaker 3: Of us listening have kids.
Speaker 4: I don't, but if you do have kids, the number
Speaker 4: one thing that you never want to see them go
Speaker 4: through is any sort of pain. And for any of
Speaker 4: us that have ever either had cancer or have had
Speaker 4: a family member who dealt with cancer, it is an
Speaker 4: absolutely just grueling, painful process and you want to be
Speaker 4: able to make sure that you have an ally on
Speaker 4: your side and you want to make sure that you
Speaker 4: have somebody that is there to give you support, because
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest here, it's medical bills. It's
Speaker 4: all these different things can start to rack up and
Speaker 4: can kind of feel overwhelming. Saint Jude takes care of
Speaker 4: that for families, and the fact that we were able
Speaker 4: to help Saint Jude even further their chances to not
Speaker 4: only be able to take care of it. You heard
Speaker 4: the radio spots that we were running, and also too
Speaker 4: as well any of our guys here on Sports Talk
Speaker 4: seven ninety who were compelling you to donate, we're telling
Speaker 4: you as well about the reason why we raise the
Speaker 4: money is so that families that have a child with cancer,
Speaker 4: they don't receive a bill and they're able to make
Speaker 4: sure that their child receives the absolute best care possible
Speaker 4: and is able to hopefully beat this thing and you know,
Speaker 4: be able to get on the other side, because there's
Speaker 4: no better thing than I think to see a family
Speaker 4: member or even enough for the person themselves who's gone
Speaker 4: through it to be able to post that video of
Speaker 4: them being able to ring the bell signifying I'm done
Speaker 4: with chemotherapy and soon enough to whenever you get that,
Speaker 4: you know, note from people that says, hey, I'm done,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm cancer free, all of those things. That
Speaker 4: is the ultimate victory when it's all said and done.
Speaker 4: So just awesome work done by all of my colleagues
Speaker 4: and everybody here at iHeartRadio Houston. As it was a
Speaker 4: really really great couple of days of being able to
Speaker 4: help out very very deserving people who definitely need this
Speaker 4: type of help, and especially to like I said, when
Speaker 4: you're dealing with cancer, it's the absolute worst thing that
Speaker 4: you can deal with. So I appreciate all of you
Speaker 4: who contributed on that front. But now let's get into
Speaker 4: some sports as we've got a lot to be able
Speaker 4: to chew on today here on Space City Saturday. If
Speaker 4: you saw the tweet from us on Sports Talk seven
Speaker 4: ninety it would even lend you to believe so because
Speaker 4: we got a lot of guests to get to. I'll
Speaker 4: get to that here in just a second, but sometime
Speaker 4: during the show as well, going to definitely get into
Speaker 4: the Azaz al Shaire three game suspension being upheld. Of course,
Speaker 4: I mean just kind of taking us through the timeline
Speaker 4: of how everything went. Remember it was Sunday, it was
Speaker 4: the hit on Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Did he slide too late?
Speaker 4: Was Aziz al Shayir necessarily in a no win situation?
Speaker 3: There depends on who you ask on that.
Speaker 4: Of course, around these parts we're going to say the
Speaker 4: second part that al Shayir was in a tough spot.
Speaker 4: But then, of course too, the other side of it
Speaker 4: as well is that was a dirty hit. It was
Speaker 4: an illegal hit. All of these different types of things.
Speaker 4: Why did he lead with the forearm? And of course
Speaker 4: too it was the concussion for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was there. What did they call it? Posting?
Speaker 4: Is that what they call it? When somebody seizes up
Speaker 4: like that after a hit like that. I mean, we've
Speaker 4: seen unfortunate hits in football before, and guys get concussed
Speaker 4: for that very hits and then you know they have
Speaker 4: to get carted off the field. It's not a good situation.
Speaker 4: So all of that kind of baked into it. And
Speaker 4: then of course Monday you had to meet o'ryans with
Speaker 4: his comments, and of course, you know, people in Jacksonville
Speaker 4: were not very happy with his comments, saying that the
Speaker 4: Jaguars overreacted to the hit, and I mean, there's just
Speaker 4: a lot to be able to get into on that,
Speaker 4: and we can as the show goes along. But the
Speaker 4: moral of the story is John Running handing down the
Speaker 4: three game suspension, and then Ramone Foster, who was the
Speaker 4: hearing officer for both the NFLPA and also the NFL
Speaker 4: to hear the appeal, decided to uphold it. So you're
Speaker 4: not gonna have a ziz Al Shaier for the next
Speaker 4: three games. And it is a tough stretch, no doubt
Speaker 4: about it. The Texans as they stand right now, it's
Speaker 4: the bye week, but when they come out of it,
Speaker 4: a very much different Miami Dolphins team comes to NRG Stadium,
Speaker 4: a place you've lost two straight game sets, so the
Speaker 4: Texans are trying to get right there. But with Tua
Speaker 4: back for the Dolphins, they have been able to live
Speaker 4: up to the potential that they thought they were going
Speaker 4: to have this season. So that team that lost a
Speaker 4: bunch of games earlier on in this season, they are
Speaker 4: a much different team now with two at quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: So that's gonna be a very tough game.
Speaker 4: Then you got to go up to Kansas City for
Speaker 4: a Saturday tilt against the Chiefs, I mean the Chiefs,
Speaker 4: especially there at Arrowhead have almost had some sort of
Speaker 4: voodoo magic on their side in terms of being able
Speaker 4: to find a way to win close games. Be no
Speaker 4: better example than last week against the Las Vegas Raiders,
Speaker 4: where it seemed like the Raiders were going to be
Speaker 4: in position to at the very least tie that ball
Speaker 4: game up and send it to overtime and give them
Speaker 4: an opportunity.
Speaker 3: To maybe be able to steal one on the road
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: But then you get the snap off the chest of
Speaker 4: Aidan O'Connell and the Chiefs are able to recover it,
Speaker 4: and the Chiefs win yet another game. But they're a
Speaker 4: one loss team for a reason this season. They find
Speaker 4: a way to get done. So that's gonna be a
Speaker 4: tough one. It's Christmas Day. I mean we're already almost
Speaker 4: a Christmas how about that late Thanksgiving this year? Christmas
Speaker 4: Day again back at NRG Stadium against a team too
Speaker 4: that kind of like the Rockets with the Warriors, the
Speaker 4: Ravens have kind of been.
Speaker 3: That to the Texans.
Speaker 4: The Texans have just not been able to solve the
Speaker 4: puzzle that is the Baltimore Ravens, either in the regular
Speaker 4: season or in the postseason as well. So that's gonna
Speaker 4: be a tough game there at that point as well,
Speaker 4: so Texans entering a really tough stretch. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: one bit of good news that you can point to
Speaker 4: with Aziz al Schaier being out is that it sounds
Speaker 4: like Christian Harris is going to be back. But then
Speaker 4: the question becomes, how much can you really count on
Speaker 4: Christian Harris. I mean he's been out for now over
Speaker 4: about fourteen fifteen weeks that he has not been on
Speaker 4: the field, And with that being the case, I mean
Speaker 4: you also now are running into a situation where it's
Speaker 4: going to be how much can you really be able
Speaker 4: to rely that he's gonna be able to give you
Speaker 4: on the field. I would say probably kind of like
Speaker 4: what we had seen the first few weeks in a
Speaker 4: return of Nico Collins. I think it's on steroids with
Speaker 4: Christian Harris. I think you're maybe seeing a series or
Speaker 4: two here and there, and maybe even not a full series.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's one of those where you know,
Speaker 4: no matter what, you do, have players who are going
Speaker 4: to be possibly subbed in right next to the defensive
Speaker 4: coordinator or whoever it is their position coach there on
Speaker 4: the sidelines, I think you're going to be seeing a
Speaker 4: lot of Devin White. You're going to be seeing a
Speaker 4: ton of Neville Hewitt, which Neville Hewitt will be the
Speaker 4: starting linebacker in place of Aziz al Shaier. He's been
Speaker 4: that whenever he's been called on at times this season.
Speaker 4: Shake Hanson the same deal as well. So the Texans
Speaker 4: luckily do have options, are they as he's al Shaire
Speaker 4: and what he's been able to do this season in
Speaker 4: terms of being an extension of Tamiko Ryans as the
Speaker 4: captain of the defense, Well no, they're not. So you're
Speaker 4: going to take a step back in that regard. But
Speaker 4: you've got a guy in say Devin White, who has
Speaker 4: been a really good player in this league. You know,
Speaker 4: he was a high draft pick coming out of LSU.
Speaker 4: He's won a Super Bowl And is he the same
Speaker 4: player that he was when they won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: Probably not, but two at the same time, I mean,
Speaker 4: he's still a guy that can be able to give
Speaker 4: you some meaningful contributions on the field, and the Texans
Speaker 4: I think feel pretty fortunate to have been able to
Speaker 4: scoop him up off the waiver wire earlier this.
Speaker 3: Season and Neville Hewitt two.
Speaker 4: I mean, even though he's contributed mostly in special teams,
Speaker 4: his probably best highlight of the season was the interception
Speaker 4: and near pick six return against the Packers, and he's
Speaker 4: done some good things. And same deal with Jake Canson
Speaker 4: as well. So Texan's going to try to be able
Speaker 4: to piece this thing together before you get as E's
Speaker 4: al Shaier back and you know, hopefully he's still in
Speaker 4: good enough shape to be able to help you in
Speaker 4: the playoffs too as well. But I mean, these next
Speaker 4: three games incredibly crucial for the Texans where you can't
Speaker 4: lose all three of them in a row like.
Speaker 3: That absolutely cannot happen.
Speaker 4: The worst that you can hope for in this spot
Speaker 4: is if it doesn't go your way in Kansas City,
Speaker 4: it doesn't go your way, say even Sunday against the
Speaker 4: rap or against the Dolphins next weekend, then you absolutely
Speaker 4: have to win that game against the Ravens.
Speaker 3: So I think Secans obviously.
Speaker 4: I mean, we get tired of hearing the cliches one
Speaker 4: game at a time, but I think that's kind of
Speaker 4: the way they have to take it right now, especially too,
Speaker 4: when you factor in that you've got a lead, right
Speaker 4: now and you should be able to hold on to
Speaker 4: the lead. But I mean you also to have a
Speaker 4: Colts team that's going to have a very soft schedule
Speaker 4: the rest of the way, where they've got the Broncos
Speaker 4: coming up, they're going to have the Giants the second
Speaker 4: to last game of the season.
Speaker 3: They're in New York.
Speaker 4: I mean, the Giants I think are even kind of
Speaker 4: already in surrender cobra mode. And also to games I
Speaker 4: believe against the Titans and the Jags still left this season.
Speaker 4: And you know, far be it from me to say
Speaker 4: that the Titans are a pushover. They just came in
Speaker 4: your place and we're able to beat you. So hopefully,
Speaker 4: if you're looking to Tennessee that you're saying, hey, what
Speaker 4: you did to us a few weeks ago, why don't
Speaker 4: you do that to the Colts too. That'd be pretty
Speaker 4: helpful if you were able to do that. So that's
Speaker 4: what they're up against in terms of trying to climb
Speaker 4: their way back into I mean, we could very honestly
Speaker 4: be looking at a similar scenario to what we saw
Speaker 4: last year, where Week seven, our Week eighteen is going
Speaker 4: to matter incredibly much for both the Colts and the Texans,
Speaker 4: especially too with you know, like I said, the stretch
Speaker 4: that the Texans have coming up here, So that is
Speaker 4: something that they're going to have to keep a very
Speaker 4: strong eye on. We will get into a lot of
Speaker 4: the Alex Bregman conversation. Of course, if you follow us
Speaker 4: here on Sports Talk seven ninety, you saw that Brian
Speaker 4: mctagger had the report twofold number one that the Texans
Speaker 4: did have an offer out to Alex Bregman for six
Speaker 4: years in the neighborhood of one hundred and fifty six
Speaker 4: million dollars. But the thought is is that Bregman of
Speaker 4: course would not take that offer because he wants to
Speaker 4: try to get as close to two hundred million as possible.
Speaker 4: And there are other teams out there that are interested.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've already heard about the Detroit Tigers being
Speaker 4: one of those teams.
Speaker 3: It's a possibility.
Speaker 4: I think the Boston Red Sox are in that category
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: Keep here in the Washington Nationals too as well.
Speaker 4: I think the Nationals are kind of in that area
Speaker 4: right now where they feel like they can start adding
Speaker 4: some good veteran talent to go along with guys like
Speaker 4: Dylan Cruz to hopefully be able to take that step
Speaker 4: into getting back into contention with the Braves, the Phillies,
Speaker 4: the Mets. They're in a pretty crowded and pretty competitive
Speaker 4: National League East, so they're another team to look out
Speaker 4: for in that regard. But also too, the other part
Speaker 4: of that report that McTaggart had is that the Astros
Speaker 4: do have contingency plans in place, indeed, if they have
Speaker 4: to pivot and go elsewhere away from Alex Bregman, So
Speaker 4: we'll see how that all shakes out. Now, you're actually
Speaker 4: gonna hear from Tags here in about fifteen minutes because
Speaker 4: you joined us earlier this week on the A team.
Speaker 4: So I want to be able to have that visit
Speaker 4: for you all, and we will let you hear that.
Speaker 4: So we'll get into some of the Bregman also to
Speaker 4: speaking of baseball, an interesting interaction last night on the radio,
Speaker 4: and it was somewhere else that I've got some thoughts
Speaker 4: twofold on that, So we'll have that a little bit
Speaker 4: later on in the show. The Rockets have lost too straight.
Speaker 4: They've got the Clippers tomorrow nights out in La. If
Speaker 4: you heard Ima Udoka after the loss to the Warriors
Speaker 4: where this was a Golden State team that did not
Speaker 4: have Steph Curry, did not have Draymond Green on the floor,
Speaker 4: but still able to beat you for the fifteenth straight time.
Speaker 4: And you're gonna get the Warriors on Tuesday night at
Speaker 4: Toyota Center as part of the knockout round for a
Speaker 4: chance to be able to go to Vegas as part
Speaker 4: of the NBA Cup Ncason tournaments. So Rockets hoping they
Speaker 4: can snap that streak on Tuesday night.
Speaker 3: So maybe we'll get into.
Speaker 4: Some rocket here as the show goes along. But like
Speaker 4: I said, ima Udoka even going as far as calling
Speaker 4: his team soft after that loss to the Warriors. But
Speaker 4: in the second hour, we're gonna get into a ton
Speaker 4: of college football. Of course, Texas and Georgia SEC Championship game,
Speaker 4: both teams likely going to be in the CFP, but
Speaker 4: still gonna be a really fun matchup today because of
Speaker 4: course Texas wants to get some revenge on Georgia for
Speaker 4: the thirty to fifteen loss they gave them earlier this season.
Speaker 4: And also too, I mean, both teams fighting for a
Speaker 4: chance to be able to get that first round by
Speaker 4: of staying out of that kind of you know, pseudo
Speaker 4: wild card weekend if you will, in college football for
Speaker 4: the college Football Playoff, but we're gonna have that game
Speaker 4: here as well. Two o'clock is when Craig Way and
Speaker 4: the crew get going here on Sports Talk seven to
Speaker 4: nine year home for the Longhorns for football in men's
Speaker 4: basketball in Houston, So we'll get into that in the
Speaker 4: second hour. My good buddy Will Matthews from the Longhorns
Speaker 4: Sports Network does sidelines for Craig Way and Roger Wallace there.
Speaker 4: Of course he played at Texas. He's gonna join us
Speaker 4: at eleven o'clock eleven fifteen. We're gonna head over to
Speaker 4: Georgia and we're gonna talk with my buddy Roddy Nibolsei
Speaker 4: of ugasports dot Com, the rival site there as he's
Speaker 4: been covering UGA for some time. So if you're a
Speaker 4: Texas fan you want to get a little bit of
Speaker 4: a scouting report on what the Bulldogs could try to
Speaker 4: bring the Longhorns here in the rematch.
Speaker 3: We will have that.
Speaker 4: And then we had a good visit yesterday with me
Speaker 4: and Ross Villarreale on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross
Speaker 4: from Barrett's Lee of College Football Smothered and Covered also
Speaker 4: OutKick dot Com and Sirius XM. He hosts a good
Speaker 4: show over the weekends with Tom Louganbill of ESPN. So
Speaker 4: we'll hear from Barrett too as the show goes along.
Speaker 4: But as it stands, I'm way over for a break
Speaker 4: because coming up next. You know, I use the saying
Speaker 4: consider the source. I would say the source is a
Speaker 4: good one to follow if you're an Astros fan. We'll
Speaker 4: continue the Alex Bregman conversation on the other side. We're
Speaker 4: just getting going here on Space City Saturday, Dan Matthews
Speaker 4: here with you until noon on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: It's Space City Saturday on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4: Dan Matthews here with you on your home of Texas
Speaker 4: Long Horns football and men's basketball here in Houston.
Speaker 3: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4: The Horns will be on your radio a little bit
Speaker 4: later today two o'clock coming your way with the SEC
Speaker 4: Championship game called Craig Way. Roger Wallace and my eleven
Speaker 4: o'clock guest, Will Matthews. They're on the sidelines. They're in
Speaker 4: Atlanta against Georgia, so that'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: We'll have that for you coming up a little bit
Speaker 4: later on. We are also to your home of the
Speaker 4: Astros and the Astros right now as you head into
Speaker 4: a very important Major League Baseball League meetings coming up
Speaker 4: this week from North Texas. Of course, as we remind
Speaker 4: you to do all the time, stick and stay right
Speaker 4: here on Sports Talk seven ninety especially for this week,
Speaker 4: any news coming out of there. You know that Joe
Speaker 4: Aspota will be speaking from there in North Texas, and
Speaker 4: of course he'll have some thoughts and also too as well.
Speaker 4: General manager Dana Brown going to be speaking from there
Speaker 4: in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. As hopefully we will
Speaker 4: have some news on Alex Bregman. I mean, really just
Speaker 4: kind of find out one way or the other if
Speaker 4: you're the Astros, either hey, he's accepted an offer and
Speaker 4: you're going to keep him here, or also too that
Speaker 4: you've got to go elsewhere.
Speaker 3: So we'll try to figure that out.
Speaker 4: But one of those names that I just mentioned already
Speaker 4: spoke this week, and he is your manager, Joe spot Um.
Speaker 4: He spoke with Will Kunkle on Kicking It with Kunkle
Speaker 4: on Fox twenty six. Of course, Will the sports director
Speaker 4: over there at Fox twenty six, and he does the
Speaker 4: podcast series where he's had a lot of really good
Speaker 4: guests on and this week he was able to sit
Speaker 4: down with Joe Aspodum and the source.
Speaker 3: That I was talking about. Yes, of course it's Joe.
Speaker 4: A spot up because let's start things off on a
Speaker 4: high note. While it does seem like there's been a
Speaker 4: lot of pessimism in terms of the Astros being able
Speaker 4: to ward off other teams that are going to try
Speaker 4: to come with their contract offers to Alex Pregman, you've
Speaker 4: got the Astros manager who feels pretty good about their
Speaker 4: chances of being able to retain Alex Bregman here in Houston.
Speaker 5: I feel good about our chances assigning Breggie. I think
Speaker 5: BREGGI Reggie loves loves winning. We know how to win here.
Speaker 5: I think our fan base, he's family. There's so many
Speaker 5: things that we got going for us that I think
Speaker 5: that he won't be able to find any of that
Speaker 5: somewhere else. I think that's that's important for Alex.
Speaker 4: All Right, So there's a couple of other, you know,
Speaker 4: bits of audio that we're gonna get to here. But
Speaker 4: the first part of that is, while I do agree
Speaker 4: with Joe Aspata that at least next season, I think
Speaker 4: the Astros with Alex Bregman here would still be in
Speaker 4: a very good position to try and win. You've got him,
Speaker 4: You've got Jose Altuve, You've got a pitching staff that
Speaker 4: took a massive step forward last year and a lot
Speaker 4: of those guys are coming back, and I think the
Speaker 4: Astros will still try to add both in the bullpen
Speaker 4: but also to the starting rotation to try to create
Speaker 4: some sort of depth at that point. So that's something
Speaker 4: to keep an eye on. But I've got to believe
Speaker 4: that Bregman's conversations and ever either if it's directly or
Speaker 4: indirectly through his agent Scott Boris with the team is okay. Look,
Speaker 4: I could accept your offer that you give me, and
Speaker 4: you know that's all fine and good. I want to
Speaker 4: be somewhere where I want to win. Alex Bregman does
Speaker 4: not strike me as the type of guy that's going
Speaker 4: to just take the huge money and then just say, oh,
Speaker 4: well I got my money.
Speaker 3: I'm all good.
Speaker 4: If he's going to accept an offer from someone, I
Speaker 4: think he wants to be able to try to merge.
Speaker 4: But both of those goals together of number one, get
Speaker 4: a nice payday, because this will be his last huge
Speaker 4: payday he's going to get. This one's going to be
Speaker 4: in the six to seven maybe even if someone wants
Speaker 4: to kick it up to an eighth year range. And
Speaker 4: he's now i think going to be thirty one this season.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember exactly, but he's already into his thirties.
Speaker 4: So the moral of the story is when he gets
Speaker 4: out of this current deal, he's going to be in
Speaker 4: the later stages of his thirties.
Speaker 3: And at that point you're.
Speaker 4: Probably in the area of getting a one year deal,
Speaker 4: two year deal, something like that before you finally call
Speaker 4: it a career. And most guys now, I think probably
Speaker 4: especially two With as much baseball as Bregman plays, that's
Speaker 4: probably the best case scenario you could be looking for
Speaker 4: at the end. But it's also too I mean, with
Speaker 4: some of the teams he's talking with, if he's able
Speaker 4: to get that from Detroit, we just saw it last year.
Speaker 4: The Tigers have a lot of young talent already up
Speaker 4: at the major league level, but they've already got a
Speaker 4: lot of major league talent that is still to come
Speaker 4: to the major league level that they're counting on for
Speaker 4: the future of their organization. I think they probably feel
Speaker 4: like that they're in a position to be able to
Speaker 4: take that next step this season, and a guy like
Speaker 4: Alex Bregman could absolutely help them do that. And again,
Speaker 4: he'd be going to a situation where they feel like
Speaker 4: they're able to compete, they're able to win, and they're
Speaker 4: able to go for the whole thing when it's all
Speaker 4: said and done.
Speaker 3: Boston, I think kind of the same deal. It sounds like.
Speaker 4: They are really really heavy into trying to get Wan
Speaker 4: Soto there in Boston, and I think if that were
Speaker 4: the case, that would probably preclude them from getting Alex Bregman.
Speaker 3: But if not, I mean, you've.
Speaker 4: Already had Scott Boris talk about the willingness for his
Speaker 4: client to play second base if needed. But also too,
Speaker 4: I mean, you've seen the reports from the Red Sox
Speaker 4: that they would move Rafael Devers away from third base
Speaker 4: if they were able to pick up a guy like
Speaker 4: Alex Bregman. So they're a team that feels like they're
Speaker 4: probably a really good bat away from having a chance
Speaker 4: to not only get into contention, because that is a
Speaker 4: crowded American League East, with both the Yankees and the
Speaker 4: Orioles in front of them right now. You've also got
Speaker 4: Toronto who's trying to find their way back in. So
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a crowded field out there in the East.
Speaker 4: And also to teams that feel like that they can
Speaker 4: be competitive for years to come. So that's the question
Speaker 4: that I think is probably being asked of Dana Brown
Speaker 4: and of Jim Crane, of you know, we've got the
Speaker 4: comments from Jim Crane saying, as long as I'm here,
Speaker 4: the window never closes. Well, okay, I think that probably
Speaker 4: if you're Bregmant, you say, what do you mean by that? Like,
Speaker 4: does that mean that you're going to spend heavily to
Speaker 4: be able to make sure that that doesn't happen, That
Speaker 4: you're going to somehow be able to try to replenish
Speaker 4: this farm system as best as possible, to try to
Speaker 4: be able to get some younger talent in here and
Speaker 4: some guys that can one day be Major League ready
Speaker 4: that can keep this thing going. Like, You've got to
Speaker 4: explain that to me, Like, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: So I think those conversations are being had real quick.
Speaker 4: We'll get to the other two bits of sound before
Speaker 4: coming up. In the next segment, we'll hear from Brian
Speaker 4: McTaggart's Aspata continues with Will Kunkle talking about Bregman, saying
Speaker 4: he really isn't sure that he wants to go anywhere else.
Speaker 5: I'm going somewhere else to start, you know, again, it'd
Speaker 5: be something that I don't know if Alex wants that,
Speaker 5: you know, he might, but at least then Alex Bregman
Speaker 5: that I know how much he loves the city, the fans,
Speaker 5: these teammates. I think we had that going for us.
Speaker 4: So the final part of these audio cuts from Joe
Speaker 4: Aspata is something that I think we all know pretty
Speaker 4: fully well. It doesn't just take this Bregman situation for
Speaker 4: us understand that it is a business. It is a
Speaker 4: business for not only Bregman, but also too for the
Speaker 4: Astros as well, because I think the Astros could kind
Speaker 4: of find themselves in a situation of if the contract
Speaker 4: ask is so high that they've got to be able
Speaker 4: to walk away, and they've got to be able to
Speaker 4: pivot and be able to go elsewhere in terms of
Speaker 4: maybe a trade or even a free agent opportunity. While
Speaker 4: you might take a step back with the glove over
Speaker 4: there at third base, maybe you're still able to have
Speaker 4: somebody that is a good enough bat over there that
Speaker 4: can help you be able to sustain what you've been doing,
Speaker 4: and that's winning the American League West and finding your
Speaker 4: way into the postseason. So that's the business side of it,
Speaker 4: but also too, Bregman's overall value. We've heard numerous people
Speaker 4: talk about that side of his game. This is what
Speaker 4: Joe spot I had to say, you.
Speaker 5: Know the business side of things, and you know that's different.
Speaker 5: There's other teams that probably I'm looking for for winning play.
Speaker 5: These guys a winner, these guys are champion, These guys
Speaker 5: a go glove, you know, defender, this guy is it's
Speaker 5: a really good hitter. This guy makes people around them
Speaker 5: that much better. Like you're not only acquiring a really
Speaker 5: good player, you're acquiring a great clubhouse guy, a guy
Speaker 5: that loves to be on the community, like organizations value that.
Speaker 3: We value that.
Speaker 5: So I hope that we he knows that we got
Speaker 5: that going for us, and then we don't want to
Speaker 5: lose him. So we trying to our best day Night's
Speaker 5: where can you stell off johnn to improve our club?
Speaker 3: So hopefully we get that done.
Speaker 4: And I mean with Bregman on that front. I mean,
Speaker 4: we know the Hunter Brown. Story of Hunter Brown was
Speaker 4: awful at the beginning of last season, and then it
Speaker 4: was the conversation with Alex Bregman. Hey, start using that
Speaker 4: two seamer, start using that sinker against right handed hitters,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna be able to miss barrels, and you're
Speaker 4: gonna be able to jam those guys up, and you're
Speaker 4: gonna be able to run it inside on them where
Speaker 4: they can't get the bat around, and you're racking up
Speaker 4: your strikeouts.
Speaker 3: Taylor Scott. Same deal.
Speaker 4: He was on with Rob Friedman the Pitching Ninja, talking
Speaker 4: about how they'll get their scouting reports from Josh Miller
Speaker 4: and the Astros pitch coaching staff there, but also Bregman
Speaker 4: will come to them with his own scouting reports of saying, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna be.
Speaker 3: Facing this guy here in this inning.
Speaker 4: And if you're facing this guy, this is what he likes,
Speaker 4: this is what he looks for. All of those different things,
Speaker 4: and it's also too I don't know if Bregman is
Speaker 4: necessarily the most vocal of a leader inside the club.
Speaker 4: I think he'll probably speak when compelled, but I think
Speaker 4: he's also too very much a lead by example guy
Speaker 4: of this is how you work, this is how you
Speaker 4: go about your business, this is how you be a pro.
Speaker 4: And the guys in that clubhouse seemingly respond to it.
Speaker 4: So hopefully he is still here with the Astros, but
Speaker 4: just wanted to share some thoughts from Astros manager Joe
Speaker 4: Aspata with kicking it with Kunkle with Fox twenty six
Speaker 4: sports director Will Kunkle some good stuff there. We're gonna
Speaker 4: continue the Bregman conversation on the other side because earlier
Speaker 4: this week we had a chance to catch up with
Speaker 4: Brian McTaggart of astros dot com and MLB dot Com.
Speaker 4: He of course had that report on Bregman and what
Speaker 4: the Astros could possibly do if Bregman is no longer
Speaker 4: in the cards for them in the future. We'll let
Speaker 4: you hear that as we continue to roll along here
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Speaker 4: let you hear in a second from Brian McTaggart earlier
Speaker 4: this week when he joined us on the A team.
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Speaker 4: are not a huge fan of my use of that word,
Speaker 4: so you know, aside from you know, somebody telling me
Speaker 4: yesterday that they would have to load their gun, which
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, so you're threatening to shoot me.
Speaker 4: I don't really understand that you getting to that point.
Speaker 4: If that's the case, you probably shouldn't have firearms around you.
Speaker 3: But whatever.
Speaker 4: Anyway, all right, So Brian McTaggert joined us earlier this
Speaker 4: week after he was able to have the reports on
Speaker 4: Alex Bregman, and of course his report was it was
Speaker 4: six years, one hundred and fifty six million, and also
Speaker 4: if the Astros were unable to come to a deal
Speaker 4: with Bregman, that they have a contingency plan in place,
Speaker 4: and that's where the conversation started with Adam and Adam
Speaker 4: where they asked him his thoughts on not only they
Speaker 4: reported six years, one hundred and fifty six million dollar
Speaker 4: contract offer, but also here's that word, the contingency plan
Speaker 4: that the Astros could have in place if indeed they
Speaker 4: have to pivot from number two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Astros have sort of been waiting
Speaker 6: see mode. But realistically, I mean, I think most people
Speaker 6: in the organization think they're they're just not going to
Speaker 6: be able to get to a point in years or
Speaker 6: money that they'll be able to resign him. And I
Speaker 6: think they're, you know, they're going to wait to see
Speaker 6: what shakes out over the next week we get to Dallas,
Speaker 6: you know, once Soto signs and it seems like that
Speaker 6: could come here sooner than later, I think the market
Speaker 6: will shake for you a little bit. And you know,
Speaker 6: Bregman's the next big name on the market as far
Speaker 6: as position players. But I still think the money in
Speaker 6: the years are are going to be too much. I mean,
Speaker 6: Crane a couple of weeks ago, you know, reiterated his
Speaker 6: stance and you know, it's the stances work for him
Speaker 6: where he doesn't give out these massive, long term, ten eight,
Speaker 6: nine year deals for hundreds of million. You know, he's
Speaker 6: never done it and they just continue to win. So
Speaker 6: you know he'd rather somebody else pay Alex Bregman when
Speaker 6: he's twenty eight or thirty eight, thirty nine years old.
Speaker 7: So I think in the next week we'll know a
Speaker 7: lot more.
Speaker 8: You know, not to put you completely on a spot,
Speaker 8: but I'm going to I think that's kind of the
Speaker 8: next The next natural place to go is to ask you.
Speaker 8: I mean, you've seen this guy every single game, You've
Speaker 8: covered him his entire career as an Astro. If two
Speaker 8: hundred million is the magic number, so to speak, here
Speaker 8: is Alex Bregman worth two hundred million dollars?
Speaker 7: You know that's tough to say. Uh.
Speaker 6: You know, he's a very good player. He's not what
Speaker 6: he was in eighteen and nineteen, probably never will be.
Speaker 6: But I think the next two three years, four years
Speaker 6: of his career, I still think he could be an
Speaker 6: elite third baseman. You know, you're worth what someone's willing
Speaker 6: to pay you. But you know, if he doesn't sign
Speaker 6: with the Astros, you know they they could improve their team.
Speaker 6: If they, you know, sign a mid level third baseman
Speaker 6: and go out and hit a home run at first
Speaker 6: base and spend less money, they could be better than
Speaker 6: they were last year.
Speaker 7: I mean, everybody wants this core to stay together.
Speaker 6: You know, jose Al Tuve pretty much pleading with him
Speaker 6: to sign Bregman just lets you know how important important
Speaker 6: he is to this team.
Speaker 7: And he is a leader. I mean, you know, he
Speaker 7: was in every mound visit.
Speaker 6: We all know the stories of him helping out the
Speaker 6: pitchers this year. He's a pillar in that clubhouse. All
Speaker 6: that stuff has to be fackored into it as well.
Speaker 6: But that's not going to change the Astros philosophy where
Speaker 6: they're going to all of a sudden give him two million,
Speaker 6: two hundred million dollars to play here in the next
Speaker 6: seven or eight years.
Speaker 7: Well, and that's the other thing.
Speaker 8: You know, you just mentioned the contingency plan, which is
Speaker 8: in your headline of your article on MLB dot com.
Speaker 8: You know, is that the contingency plan or is that
Speaker 8: least the the the timeline or the chain of things
Speaker 8: like you do have maybe a stop gap situation or
Speaker 8: just you take a hit at third base from a
Speaker 8: talent and leadership standpoint. But then you go get you know,
Speaker 8: what would be a home run at first base if
Speaker 8: that were the scenario that were to unfold.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if they don't sign him, I mean, maybe they
Speaker 6: go and get Christian Walker for a couple of years,
Speaker 6: who's probably the best free agent first basement on the market,
Speaker 6: three time Gold Glove winner.
Speaker 7: I mean he would fit very nicely.
Speaker 6: And then maybe at third base you kind of patch
Speaker 6: it together a little bit.
Speaker 7: You know, one name I've mentioned a few.
Speaker 6: Times with Joge Polanco who was with the Mariners last year,
Speaker 6: didn't have a great year.
Speaker 7: It's coming off surgery.
Speaker 6: But you know, he's a guy that maybe you could
Speaker 6: get eight nine million, you know, hope he has a
Speaker 6: rebound year and then maybe you know, at first base,
Speaker 6: like I said, you know, make a make a a
Speaker 6: bigger impact deal. Maybe, you know, do you look into
Speaker 6: acquiring someone like you know, gold Schmid, who's thirty six
Speaker 6: and on the decline, but maybe you can get a
Speaker 6: good year or two out of him, you know, being
Speaker 6: back in his hometown. So there's a lot of ways
Speaker 6: they can go here. But you know, the corner infield
Speaker 6: is their biggest needs, their biggest need however, they want to,
Speaker 6: you know, piece it together, but they can't wait forever
Speaker 6: until Bregman. If this is going to drag out until January,
Speaker 6: then I think we'll see them start to make moves
Speaker 6: to sort of move on. But once Soto makes his decision,
Speaker 6: I think things will move pretty quickly, not only for Bregman,
Speaker 6: but I think for the Astros.
Speaker 9: Do you think there's a chance they actually signed somebody
Speaker 9: to real money before an Alex Bregman decision has been made,
Speaker 9: because you just said if it gets into January, you know,
Speaker 9: you think they're you would have to move on. I
Speaker 9: think if it gets to January and they don't have
Speaker 9: a decision on him and they haven't already moved on,
Speaker 9: they're in huge trouble.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6: I mean I think I think in the next two
Speaker 6: weeks will probably know what they're going to do. I mean,
Speaker 6: they're not going to wait forever for Bregman. I mean,
Speaker 6: I think, like I said earlier, I think most people
Speaker 6: in the organization know he's probably not coming back. So
Speaker 6: I don't think it's that big of a stretch for
Speaker 6: them to say, Okay, let's let's just go to our
Speaker 6: contingency plan. Here sign this guy, you know, beep up
Speaker 6: some production at first.
Speaker 7: And then move on at that point.
Speaker 6: I mean, if they were, if they were a team
Speaker 6: that was willing to make a two hundred and two
Speaker 6: hundred and forty fifty million dollar offer for Bregnant, maybe
Speaker 6: they hang in it longer. But I mean they're already,
Speaker 6: you know what, forty five million dollars short on probably
Speaker 6: where they need to be to make a real push
Speaker 6: for him. So I don't think, yeah, they're not going
Speaker 6: to wait very long. I mean, you know, the next
Speaker 6: week is going to tell us a lot, but yeah,
Speaker 6: they're I think you're right. I mean, I think by
Speaker 6: January we're gonna, even if Bregman's still out there, will
Speaker 6: know which direction Astros are going, and it won't be
Speaker 6: with Alex Bregman.
Speaker 9: Brian McTaggart Astros dot Com, MLB dot Com beat writer.
Speaker 9: Do you think soon to be big Brother Knox will
Speaker 9: be going to more Phoenix Suns games? Do you think
Speaker 9: he'll be seeing Celtics games in the future. Do you
Speaker 9: think maybe he'll become a Lakers or a Clippers fan,
Speaker 9: maybe a Bulls fan, any idea, maybe a Raptors fan.
Speaker 8: I don't tell me he's gonna go to stee home
Speaker 8: games at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 7: Please God, how about the How about the Nets?
Speaker 8: If he goes to New York and he signs with
Speaker 8: the Mets, I can at least stomach it.
Speaker 7: Brian, Yeah, that would be That would be a tough one.
Speaker 6: Of all the core players that have left and gone
Speaker 6: on to other teams, I think for Astros fans, Bregman,
Speaker 6: who's probably at the top of the list of most beloved,
Speaker 6: next to Altuve, who's not going anywhere, but Bregman going
Speaker 6: to the Yankees, I think would be. Uh, that'd be
Speaker 6: the toughest to swallow. Look, we know he was a
Speaker 6: Jeter fan, and one of the reasons he wore number two.
Speaker 6: His family's got deep ties to Washington Baseball, going back
Speaker 6: generations with his grandfather. You know, I think, you know,
Speaker 6: Washington is an up and coming team. The Red Sox
Speaker 6: make a lot of sense with that short porch and
Speaker 6: left field. I think Bregman needs somewhere where he can
Speaker 6: really pull the ball just like Mini made. You know,
Speaker 6: he lives and he's spent the last couple off seasons
Speaker 6: now in Phoenix, So I don't know if the are
Speaker 6: a big player.
Speaker 7: But yeah, he was at the Suns game the other day.
Speaker 7: But it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 6: If I had to guess, I would say he goes
Speaker 6: somewhere on the East coast, Boston, New York's, Washington, wouldn't
Speaker 6: completely roll out some other locations, but I think he'll
Speaker 6: wind up on the East coast.
Speaker 9: Dana Brown has said very clearly about biggest priority being
Speaker 9: Alex Bragman. He also acknowledged conversations we're being had with
Speaker 9: other free agents here and Justin Verlander, and there's been
Speaker 9: a lot of reports about some creative ways to put
Speaker 9: the team together next year, which might include Ryan Presley.
Speaker 9: So about those two pitchers, do you think the Astros
Speaker 9: are truly interested in a deal?
Speaker 7: Likely very short term?
Speaker 9: I'm sure one year with Justin Verlander, and do you
Speaker 9: believe there are real opportunities and they'd be interested in
Speaker 9: moving Ryan Presley to a place where he'd obviously accept
Speaker 9: and that he can dictate that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got a no trade clause, which makes it
Speaker 6: makes it tricky, but yeah, I mean, if they need,
Speaker 6: if they need to free up some payroll, you know,
Speaker 6: I think Presley is the direction they go. The fact
Speaker 6: he's got no trade clause, like I said, makes it
Speaker 6: a little more difficult. I think at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, he's probably back here. I was told early
Speaker 6: in the off season that they didn't have an interest
Speaker 6: in bringing back Verlander, but certainly that's going to.
Speaker 7: Come down to money as well.
Speaker 6: I mean, if Erlander finds is just not a market
Speaker 6: for him, and maybe he comes back to the Astros
Speaker 6: on a very friendly deal. I mean, Astros have already
Speaker 6: paid him tons of money, a lot of it not
Speaker 6: to pitch, so you know, I wouldn't completely rule it out,
Speaker 6: but I still think Verlander coming back to a long shot.
Speaker 8: I'll ask you the same question I asked Wex if
Speaker 8: Bregman departs, and maybe even if the contingency plan, you know,
Speaker 8: goes according to plan and you know, whatever you end
Speaker 8: up having, don't the Astros seem like even after all
Speaker 8: of that, they'd still be the favorites in twenty twenty
Speaker 8: five in the AO West?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 6: I mean, it depends on what you know, some of
Speaker 6: the other teams do in the off season, but yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean I think as they stand now, they're they're
Speaker 6: the best team. I mean, and they're not gonna sit
Speaker 6: here and stand still. I mean, they're gonna make some
Speaker 6: moves here to improve themselves. You know, if they can
Speaker 6: address the corner infield spots, which they will, Uh, maybe
Speaker 6: they get a center fielder or an outfielder, uh, to
Speaker 6: you know, beef up that situation.
Speaker 7: I think they'll be in the market for a reliever.
Speaker 6: They could certainly use another depth starting pitcher, probably like
Speaker 6: every team. So yeah, I still think they're the team
Speaker 6: to beat. I mean, you know, the Rangers have a
Speaker 6: lot of talent, but uh, you know they're gonna lose
Speaker 6: some of it in free agency. You know, a lot
Speaker 6: of those guys were banged up, you know, some of
Speaker 6: their you know, like, what are they going to get
Speaker 6: out of de gram Voldie's gone. So unless one of
Speaker 6: those other teams makes a big splash, I'm talking about
Speaker 6: the Rangers and the Mariners because I still don't see
Speaker 6: the the Angels being a player. And you know, hey,
Speaker 6: they signed Sevarino today, so you know, maybe they're on
Speaker 6: the Uh, maybe they're going to start spending some crazy
Speaker 6: money going to Sacramento, which is kind of crazy. But
Speaker 6: I mean I still think the Astros are unless they
Speaker 6: completely flub this off season going to be the class
Speaker 6: of the Alos.
Speaker 9: Final thirty seconds for us here, Brian, do you feel
Speaker 9: like these meetings coming up next week in Dallas will
Speaker 9: start multiple major money deals being agreed to.
Speaker 7: I think they will.
Speaker 6: I mean, these things have generally been a big bore,
Speaker 6: but all the stuff I'm reading about Soto seems like
Speaker 6: a decision could be coming, you know, maybe by the
Speaker 6: end of the weekend, and I think that's really going
Speaker 6: to break the really break things free. Whether the Astros
Speaker 6: get involved that earlier or not, I'm not sure, but
Speaker 6: you know, we had a deal done today with Severino,
Speaker 6: so maybe, you know, maybe things are starting to happen.
Speaker 6: When everyone in baseball gets together under the same roof
Speaker 6: and you know, the the drinks start flowing, things tend
Speaker 6: to get done.
Speaker 7: So we'll see where we're at in a week.
Speaker 8: It's your favorite time of year, the off season. That's
Speaker 8: never an off season for you, Brian. We appreciate you
Speaker 8: carving out some time on the fly, and we'll catch
Speaker 8: up very soon, I'm sure.
Speaker 7: All right, Thanks guys.
Speaker 4: All right, great stuff from Astros dot com, MLB dot
Speaker 4: coms Brian McTaggart. You can find him on Twitter at
Speaker 4: Brian mctaggarts, and it is the weekend before the league
Speaker 4: meetings get going, and that is true to what he said,
Speaker 4: is when things kind of start to come go ahead
Speaker 4: in terms of deals being made. Also, I mean you
Speaker 4: get announcements of deals being made, so players are able
Speaker 4: to have their press conferences right there. And Scott Boris
Speaker 4: usually likes to be able to hold court of some sort.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know that he did it earlier this
Speaker 4: year at the GM meetings and had his dad jokes
Speaker 4: all the different types of things that he likes to
Speaker 4: throw out there, and he likes to be able to
Speaker 4: do that pretty much at every single Major League Baseball
Speaker 4: sanctioned meeting. So we'll see if that comes to fruition
Speaker 4: this week. I was going to play a little bit
Speaker 4: of audio, but I also want to give myself enough
Speaker 4: for a runway to be able to talk about it afterwards.
Speaker 4: I mean, there is kind of a beginning to lead
Speaker 4: up to it, sequence of a and then it's the
Speaker 4: audio itself. And then there's also too the scenario after
Speaker 4: the audio that I'm just not gonna have enough time
Speaker 4: to be able to get to if we want to
Speaker 4: be able to stay on the clock and also get
Speaker 4: Will Matthews in at eleven o'clock because I know he's
Speaker 4: busy today in terms of trying to get ready for
Speaker 4: his game in Atlanta between Texas and Georgia.
Speaker 3: As coming up next.
Speaker 4: Hour, we will have a lot of college football conversation,
Speaker 4: not only with Will, but also too we'll head to Georgia,
Speaker 4: we'll talk with Roddy Nibolsei of UGA sports dot com
Speaker 4: and also to our conversation that we had earlier this
Speaker 4: week with Barrett's Lee of college Football Smothered and Covered,
Speaker 4: as well as Serious XM and OutKick dot com.
Speaker 3: So we'll do all of that coming up.
Speaker 4: But in the immediate next segment, I do want to
Speaker 4: get into a little bit of Rockets conversation because interesting
Speaker 4: things said after both games this week by Ema Udoka
Speaker 4: that I want to be able to get into. So
Speaker 4: we'll do that ten o'clock cower right here on your
Speaker 4: home of the Rockets and the Astros Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Matthews. This is Space City Saturday.
Speaker 2: We now returned to Space City Saturday Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: They don't make music like they used to do. They well,
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Speaker 4: I'm bringing you back here on Space City Saturday, Dan
Speaker 4: Matthews here with you just a couple more minutes to
Speaker 4: close out the ten o'clock hour. We've spent most of
Speaker 4: this ten o'clock hour on the Alex Bregman Astros situation.
Speaker 3: So I guess we'll find out.
Speaker 4: I mean my gut feeling with Matt on the Matt
Speaker 4: Sama Show with Ross earlier this week when we did
Speaker 4: gut feelings, as I said, by Wednesday, we'll know about
Speaker 4: Alex Bregman, either if it's good or if it's he's
Speaker 4: going to be suiting up somewhere else in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five and beyond. So I'm sticking to that gut feeling.
Speaker 4: I think we will find out something. And mc taggart
Speaker 4: back me up on that as he said, Yeah, this
Speaker 4: is gonna move pretty quickly, both not only him but
Speaker 4: also for the Astros, So we'll see how it all
Speaker 4: shakes out.
Speaker 3: The Rockets have lost two in a row.
Speaker 4: Just want to spend a couple of minutes on the
Speaker 4: Rockets as they lost to the Sacramento Kings earlier this
Speaker 4: week final NBA Cup group play, and I mean it
Speaker 4: was one of those that if you were watching the
Speaker 4: game and you were following along with Ryan Hollins and
Speaker 4: Craig Ackerman, even in garbage time, they were imploring the
Speaker 4: Rockets players, Hey, you gotta score points. You got you
Speaker 4: got to be able to cut down this deficit in
Speaker 4: the game, because that point differential is huge if you
Speaker 4: want to be able to host a knockout round home game.
Speaker 4: And luckily the Denver Nuggets did the Rockets as solid
Speaker 4: in terms of beating the Golden State Warriors, so that
Speaker 4: was nice.
Speaker 3: So Tuesday night will be in Houston.
Speaker 4: No better time to end a streak than Tuesday nights,
Speaker 4: So hopefully the Rockets can do that.
Speaker 3: But yet he may.
Speaker 4: Joka, of course, after he got thrown out of the
Speaker 4: game going to the podium, and I think most of
Speaker 4: us who follow Madoka knew where that was going. And
Speaker 4: he did not fail in that regard, calling it tiki
Speaker 4: tak and other stuff, but also too using another interesting
Speaker 4: word and in front of get yourself some glasses to
Speaker 4: the referee John Goebel. That got him a fifty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars fine and he may gonna have to send over
Speaker 4: some of his pay to the NBA League office. But
Speaker 4: then after the loss. Again, I laid it out for
Speaker 4: you earlier in the show. You didn't have Steph Curry,
Speaker 4: didn't have Draymond Green on the floor, Emydoka calling his
Speaker 4: team soft. So maybe a little bit of a reflection
Speaker 4: point for the Rockets at this point of They've been
Speaker 4: able to do some really good things. It is a
Speaker 4: crowded Western conference. It's going to continue to be a
Speaker 4: crowded Western conference. But he may Udoka kind of going
Speaker 4: to the nuclear option at that point of, Okay, I'll
Speaker 4: start calling some guys out, and that's what he did
Speaker 4: earlier this week. So we'll see if the Rockets are
Speaker 4: able to get right.
Speaker 3: And I did have the.
Speaker 4: Gut feeling too that the Rockets will go one for
Speaker 4: three on the West Coast, So hopefully they can pick
Speaker 4: up their third win in a row this season against
Speaker 4: the LA Clippers there in their building.
Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next.
Speaker 4: We'll get into the college football conversation as Will Matthews,
Speaker 4: the sieline reporter for the Longhorn Sports Network. On the
Speaker 4: radio side, he is going to join us to a
Speaker 4: preview today's Texas Georgia game in the SEC Championship game
Speaker 4: for the Texas side and then after him at eleven fifteen,
Speaker 4: canna have a chance to catch up with Rodney to
Speaker 4: bolseyougasports dot com to preview the Georgia side. We'll do
Speaker 4: that as we kick off the eleven o'clock hour here
Speaker 4: on your home of the Longhorns football in Men's Basketball
Speaker 4: in Houston Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 1: Here's seven nineties Dan Matthews.
Speaker 4: It is in the SEC Championship game this weekend, and
Speaker 4: of course the Texas call right here on your home
Speaker 4: of Longhorn football and Men's basketball in Houston Sports Socks
Speaker 4: seven ninety. A man that you know is going to
Speaker 4: be part of the coverage. He's with Craig Way and
Speaker 4: Roger Wallace. He's the sideline reporter Lifetime Longhorn. He is
Speaker 4: Will Matthews, Will did you guys just kind of show
Speaker 4: the rest of the SEC? Hey, this isn't so hard,
Speaker 4: Like why do y'all keep talking about this? We just
Speaker 4: got here in year One's the what's the huge deal?
Speaker 10: You know, that's exactly how it feels looking back through
Speaker 10: going through the process. You know, the guys put in
Speaker 10: the work, and I think if we'd wind back a
Speaker 10: couple of years ago when Sart comes in, he's got
Speaker 10: Jon Robinson and you know, just that team that that
Speaker 10: he moved past the five and seven and.
Speaker 11: He had just begin to start and recruiting.
Speaker 10: Really what he says was, let's recruit big guys that
Speaker 10: run fast, that can compete with SEC teams. And then
Speaker 10: fast forward that's what he's done. And now it definitely
Speaker 10: what you said. It's like, oh, this isn't hard. How
Speaker 10: could how could A and M be in so long
Speaker 10: and not get there? And uh, Texas get there the
Speaker 10: first the first time, the first year in the SEC
Speaker 10: is as you can tell, that's a little snub to
Speaker 10: my m buddies, But.
Speaker 3: That's how it goes. No, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 3: That's what rivalries are about.
Speaker 4: And seems like Texas has really kind of embraced the
Speaker 4: SEC lifestyle already. I mean, you know, I'm sure you're
Speaker 4: on social media enough. You see Texas fans. You know,
Speaker 4: they know, Hey, Georgia fans like to do this. Okay,
Speaker 4: so do we Alabama.
Speaker 3: Fans do them?
Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, well we'll meet you there. So no, it's
Speaker 4: it's all in good fun for sure. I mean, this
Speaker 4: has got to be a rematch that I'm sure once
Speaker 4: the Longhorn coaches and players saw it was going to
Speaker 4: be this game, they probably were salivating a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean, just kind of take us through, you know,
Speaker 4: the first time. I mean, what what went wrong? Like,
Speaker 4: what what did Texas not do to allow that game
Speaker 4: to get out of hand and get away from them?
Speaker 10: You know, the if we just really boil it down
Speaker 10: to the nuts and bolts of football, if you look
Speaker 10: at what happened, Texas had four turnovers taken from from Georgia,
Speaker 10: and they in Texas gave away three turnovers.
Speaker 11: Well, Texas didn't.
Speaker 10: Capitalize on any of those four turnovers point wise, and
Speaker 10: Georgia was able to come out fourteen points, which really
Speaker 10: is the difference there was, what's the difference in score?
Speaker 10: Texas wasn't really able to take care of the ball,
Speaker 10: and this coach saw and the team has said many times,
Speaker 10: just didn't feel like Georgia got the best of Texas.
Speaker 11: And so that's really been the.
Speaker 10: Message over this week of like, let's give Georgia the best,
Speaker 10: the best shot that we have, and if we do that,
Speaker 10: at the end of the whistle, we'll be pretty happy
Speaker 10: with what happens.
Speaker 4: And I mean, you know, just from that game until now,
Speaker 4: I mean, what have you noticed a visible difference in
Speaker 4: this Texas team, either offensively, defensively, anywhere that would lead
Speaker 4: you to believe that this second meeting is going to
Speaker 4: go a lot different.
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 10: Well, we all know that Texas's defenses is the best
Speaker 10: in the country, and the way that they're playing is
Speaker 10: really like that. Eighteen interceptions are taking the ball away,
Speaker 10: they're huge stops on goal lines. I mean, they're really
Speaker 10: doing their job. That's been constant. They haven't stopped that
Speaker 10: this whole season. But I think on the offensive side,
Speaker 10: there's two things that have really happened. The offensive line
Speaker 10: has solidified and they seem to be keeping the heat
Speaker 10: off Quinn. And the other thing that they're doing is
Speaker 10: they've opened they've opened the holes for an established running game.
Speaker 10: Last week, Trey Wisner ran for over one hundred and
Speaker 10: eighty yards.
Speaker 11: I mean that was just not something that we were
Speaker 11: doing this season.
Speaker 10: And for him to be able to do that for
Speaker 10: the O line coming together, it just makes things a
Speaker 10: lot easier. And if Quinn has a good running game,
Speaker 10: he's confident and comfortable, and that's when he really takes care.
Speaker 11: Of the ball and is really able to be the
Speaker 11: general that we need him to be.
Speaker 7: Again.
Speaker 3: He is the sideline reporter.
Speaker 4: He also is, as they say in Austin a lifetime longhorn.
Speaker 3: He is a long horn let a letterman.
Speaker 4: He is Will Matthews and he joins us here on
Speaker 4: Space City Saturday. Last week, Arch Manning, I mean a
Speaker 4: few packages we saw in there. And you know, of
Speaker 4: course Quinn Ewers is dealing with the ankle issue. But
Speaker 4: that's I mean, even though he played against Texas Georgia
Speaker 4: a little bit in that first matchup, I mean, how
Speaker 4: much do you think that we're going to see Arch
Speaker 4: on the field in this game?
Speaker 3: Is kind of an offset?
Speaker 10: Well, It was interesting to see to see arch last
Speaker 10: week against A and M. What an incredible time to
Speaker 10: bring in to bring him in. You know, Quinn definitely
Speaker 10: had that ankle injury but still moving really well.
Speaker 11: But what a great change of pace to bring arch in.
Speaker 10: You know, Coach Sarkle's as point blank have we seen
Speaker 10: the whole playbook? And he says, you're gonna have to
Speaker 10: wait and see, And so I think they're going to
Speaker 10: have to continually find a way to get Archie in
Speaker 10: because it really changes that dynamic.
Speaker 11: His athletic ability and ability to run.
Speaker 10: He's so big and so strong and so fast that
Speaker 10: really brings a dynamic to the offense that didn't have
Speaker 10: with Quinn and so being able to do that is
Speaker 10: really important. So hope, just me as a fan and
Speaker 10: a next player, I want to see the guy I
Speaker 10: love when he gets on the field, and what he
Speaker 10: does for the team is pretty important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: I mean you touched on a little bit with Trey
Speaker 4: Weisner and just how well he was able to run
Speaker 4: the football last week and just the physicality both sides
Speaker 4: of the ball for this team. I mean, I've got
Speaker 4: to believe and it's not even a I've got to believe.
Speaker 4: I mean, when you were there, I mean, you guys
Speaker 4: were physical, and there was a period right there where,
Speaker 4: of course the offense started to jump up a little
Speaker 4: bit and that physicality kind of went away. But as
Speaker 4: a fan base as a whole, I mean, I've got
Speaker 4: to believe. It's kind of like when your team is
Speaker 4: physical like that fires you up, right, like that absolutely
Speaker 4: like makes you say like, yeah, we're going to come
Speaker 4: into your place and we're going to absolutely beat you up.
Speaker 4: I mean, how fired up are Texas fans with with
Speaker 4: how this team plays and again how physical they are
Speaker 4: on Saturdays.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, you're just hitting the nail on the head.
Speaker 10: Two weeks ago, Texas at home against Florida, the last
Speaker 10: home game of the season, ending the game, ran the
Speaker 10: ball fifteen times in a row. I mean, that is
Speaker 10: a statement that is saying we are we're gonna have
Speaker 10: physical you, and we're gonna you're gonna know where we're going.
Speaker 10: We're either going left or right, you pick one, and
Speaker 10: we're gonna get it done. And Texas has been able
Speaker 10: to do that, and even last week into A and M,
Speaker 10: they were posing their will on that on that upfront
Speaker 10: I mean on the defensive side of the front seven,
Speaker 10: and then also on the offensive side. The offensive line
Speaker 10: has really just been focused, and I think all of
Speaker 10: the fans and ex players and everybody is just so
Speaker 10: excited about it because we all know how big and
Speaker 10: fast and how physical the SEC is, and for Texas
Speaker 10: to be at the forefront of that just kind of
Speaker 10: pushing their way through to get.
Speaker 11: To the front is really special. And the fan base
Speaker 11: is ignited. We're so excited.
Speaker 10: We've waited and now it's time for Texas to do
Speaker 10: their thing.
Speaker 4: A couple more minutes with Longhorn Sports Network sideline reporter
Speaker 4: Will Matthews. You're gonna hear them later on today right
Speaker 4: here with Craig Way and Roger Wallace as part of
Speaker 4: the Longhorn Sports Network. I mean, you know this Georgia team,
Speaker 4: it's a team that I think has kind of been
Speaker 4: up and down all season, especially on the offensive end.
Speaker 4: I mean, you touched on it last time Carson Beck
Speaker 4: turned the football over. He hasn't done that a ton lately.
Speaker 4: So how can you know this Texas defense be able
Speaker 4: to stemy Georgia today?
Speaker 10: You know, Texas has got to prepare for two Carson
Speaker 10: becks to be. To be honest, there's a Carson Beck
Speaker 10: who who's got twenty eight interceptions, and then there's Carson
Speaker 10: Beck who's played over the last couple of weeks and
Speaker 10: really he's put on that the Superman cape and he's
Speaker 10: carried his team in different times. And so Texas has
Speaker 10: got to really be ready to match the intensity on
Speaker 10: that offensive side with their defense. And then on the
Speaker 10: offensive side, if Texas can take care of the ball,
Speaker 10: keeping the ball away from Georgia as well as running
Speaker 10: the ball efficiently.
Speaker 11: On the ground.
Speaker 10: I mean, it doesn't have to be a two to
Speaker 10: three hundred yard on the ground game.
Speaker 11: It just has to be efficient so that Texas can
Speaker 11: stay ahead of the chains.
Speaker 10: Because we all know when quin yours is confident and
Speaker 10: comfortable and he's in that intermediate area, he is he
Speaker 10: is precise, he's deadly, he's he's the kind of guy
Speaker 10: that you want, and when he's comfortable, it's just it's
Speaker 10: lights out. So hopefully that is the recipe that we
Speaker 10: see that we see today, and you know that's that's
Speaker 10: what they get to done.
Speaker 11: Get done well.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll be listening here in Houston. Great work all season.
Speaker 4: Look forward to hearing you Craig and Roger today and
Speaker 4: also too. I mean, I mean, you know, even though
Speaker 4: it does seem like Texas is going to get in,
Speaker 4: I gotta believe that this is probably a huge goal
Speaker 4: for them to say, hey, win the conference, leave no doubt,
Speaker 4: get in as a top four seed, and then feel
Speaker 4: pretty good about the chances to go for it all.
Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, I mean, you're so right, and just being
Speaker 10: close to this team, I'm really impressed they have kept
Speaker 10: the message the same and that as the standard has
Speaker 10: got to be the standard, and no matter how things
Speaker 10: shake out, the only thing that you can control is
Speaker 10: what you do on Saturday and how you respond to adversity.
Speaker 10: And they've done just a really good job of growing
Speaker 10: up in maturity. I think the game they played earlier
Speaker 10: in October against Georgia, the magnitude of the moment may
Speaker 10: have gotten to them, and so as they have matured
Speaker 10: throughout the season, going up to Arkansas and Tampa, business
Speaker 10: went to Kyle Field and played the Aggies and handled business.
Speaker 11: I think that they're.
Speaker 10: More ready than they've ever been for this game, and
Speaker 10: I'm excited to see the Horns.
Speaker 3: Do their thing.
Speaker 4: It'll be fun Horns and Georgia Bulldogs. They're in Atlanta
Speaker 4: for the SEC Championship game. Will you're the best man.
Speaker 4: It's been awesome catching up with you all season long,
Speaker 4: and we look forward to listening to you guys today.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, hook them.
Speaker 3: All right, there you go.
Speaker 4: Will Matthews with us here on Space City Saturday. We've
Speaker 4: got the Texas side of today's SEC Championship game that
Speaker 4: you're gonna hear right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4: How about the Georgia side. My good buddy Roddy the
Speaker 4: Bullsey from UGA sports dot Com, the rival site that
Speaker 4: covers the team. We will find out about the Dogs
Speaker 4: that's coming up next right here on Space City Saturday.
Speaker 4: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: Space City Saturday continues fine Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: And the weather around here. It kind of feels like
Speaker 3: Soundgarden is correct today. I'm a huge Soundgarden guy.
Speaker 4: I bet our next guest, Roddy NIBOLSUGA sports dot Com,
Speaker 4: he's a Soundgarden guy.
Speaker 3: Roddy, you a you a Soundgarden fan? Were you a
Speaker 3: grunge guy?
Speaker 12: And I'm started writer as I got to college and
Speaker 12: I was still in the big hair metal and rap day.
Speaker 12: So I wasn't into the grun scene. I was still
Speaker 12: trying to wrap it. You know, listen to rab Usic
Speaker 12: A poison Man. That just wasn't my scene.
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: Don't don't, don't follow the trend to Roddy, you know,
Speaker 4: just because everybody else says it's cool. That's I know,
Speaker 4: I know that's what you're about. So, you know, talking
Speaker 4: the Georgia side of today's game, I mean, we can't
Speaker 4: really get into today's game without talking about October fifteenth
Speaker 4: there in Austin, where you saw a Georgia defense that
Speaker 4: probably put together their best performance of the season, but
Speaker 4: you saw a Georgia offense, namely Carson Beck, that did
Speaker 4: not put together a very good game. Kind of coming
Speaker 4: out of Ole Miss it seems like we've seen a
Speaker 4: different Carson Beck. What have you noticed has been the
Speaker 4: difference in the Dogs quarterback?
Speaker 12: They stopped pressing. That was the big thing. It was
Speaker 12: he You've seen the fact that Georgia leads the league
Speaker 12: and dropped passes and you know, the defense doesn't get
Speaker 12: a whole lot of turnovers. They did in that Texas game,
Speaker 12: and that's what changed it. I mean, you had a
Speaker 12: Georgia could have won by you know, thirty points, you
Speaker 12: know more, but they turned them all over three times,
Speaker 12: so there was only a plus one differential. Georgia turned
Speaker 12: them over four times. But that has not been the
Speaker 12: mo for the Dog's defense. They just do not get
Speaker 12: a lot of turnovers. So Carson's like, look, dropping passes,
Speaker 12: we do not have a run game. I've got to
Speaker 12: make things happen. All the pressures on me. I'm the
Speaker 12: one getting all the money, I'm the one getting all
Speaker 12: the fame and this accolades. And he started pushing hard,
Speaker 12: and he started forcing balls, and he started getting picked
Speaker 12: off the minute he stops. The last three games, he's
Speaker 12: throwing eleven touchdowns and no interceptions. So once you kind
Speaker 12: of saying, look, you know, just decide that I don't
Speaker 12: have to make things happen. I could just throw the
Speaker 12: ball away. He also started running a little bit. There's
Speaker 12: been many times I'm just sitting in the press boxer
Speaker 12: sitting on her YouTube show. I watched a long show
Speaker 12: because Jim Donnon and I'm just like Carson. If you
Speaker 12: hang on to the ball here when you're doing that
Speaker 12: play action, there's no money on the back side. You
Speaker 12: could run for fifty yards before they'd realized you were
Speaker 12: gone out of the backfield. Once he started running, the
Speaker 12: offense looked completely different. Nate Frasier's come on to helped
Speaker 12: out the run game a little bit. They got the
Speaker 12: Tate Ratlin's back, and Monroe Releis took over left tackle
Speaker 12: for an injured the turn the screen, the offense looked better.
Speaker 12: But car Person has looked better because he's They're starting
Speaker 12: to play better around him. But I don't know if
Speaker 12: he've been enough today, But at least that's why he
Speaker 12: looked great over the last three games for the middle
Speaker 12: of the season. You know, if you've got ten touchdowns
Speaker 12: to twelve interceptions, he leads the sec and interceptions. Still,
Speaker 12: that's not a good look for Carsons again.
Speaker 4: Roddy Nibolseega sports dot Com part of the Rivals network
Speaker 4: of sites, joining us here on Space City Saturday. Dan
Speaker 4: Matthews here with you. How about the offensive line. I mean,
Speaker 4: that seems like a group that was in a little
Speaker 4: bit of flux earlier this season. He touched on the
Speaker 4: run game a little bit. But you've gotten Tate Ratlic
Speaker 4: back and he's obviously a huge part of that group.
Speaker 4: What do you expect from that group of five.
Speaker 12: I'm kind of excited to see what they do today.
Speaker 12: This will be their best test because that defensive front
Speaker 12: for Texas is phenomenal. Ernest Green is out or I
Speaker 12: don't know how much it he's going to play. My
Speaker 12: roa Freeling. You know, I got this a lot younger
Speaker 12: than him. Has played well over the last two games.
Speaker 12: But Tate Ratleige was not available for that first game
Speaker 12: against Texas, and I Trevor etn I mean he had
Speaker 12: three touchdowns against and Malagas were set up by you know,
Speaker 12: some turnover or some good field position. But Trevor was
Speaker 12: able to run pretty well. But he's got banged up ribs.
Speaker 1: He may be.
Speaker 12: Able to play today, but I think George' is gonna
Speaker 12: be really relying on Nate Frazier and I want to
Speaker 12: see what Tate radleage and that's.
Speaker 3: What he can do.
Speaker 12: Because in that eight overtime win against Georgia Tech, he
Speaker 12: saw that there were a lot more passes and Carson
Speaker 12: back was just kind of you can see the frustration
Speaker 12: on his face. Well, who goes over grabs him round
Speaker 12: shoulders and starts talking to him real closely. Tate Radvalis,
Speaker 12: He's definitely the leader of that offense. They all looked
Speaker 12: to him. He kind of willed them to win the game.
Speaker 12: He's the one they sent out for the coin toss
Speaker 12: for overtime. He didn't get to play. He's a leader,
Speaker 12: and I think if he's out there on the field
Speaker 12: against this Texas team, that does a lot for Georgia's
Speaker 12: chances in this game.
Speaker 3: Let's flip it over to defense.
Speaker 4: And I mean the first time that Georgia was able
Speaker 4: to go against Texas, we saw a lot of Mikel Williams.
Speaker 4: He was huge for them, as well as Jealon walker Is.
Speaker 4: He was able to make some huge plays for them.
Speaker 4: But the wild card in this I think could be
Speaker 4: a little bit of the running arch manning. How much
Speaker 4: do you expect that they will be ready for that
Speaker 4: plan of attack today from Steve Sarkisian's offense.
Speaker 12: I'd love to be ready for him, but I don't
Speaker 12: know that they can stop it. That's the thing we
Speaker 12: saw that Dalen Walker and Mikel Williams went off that
Speaker 12: Texas game. Where have they been since then? And I'm
Speaker 12: not banging on the kids and they're fantastic players, but
Speaker 12: they've not had a game like that since and you know,
Speaker 12: sitting in the pocket trying to complete passes downfield. You know,
Speaker 12: the pro style system Georgia is designed to stop that.
Speaker 12: And that's why, you know when the UMass came in
Speaker 12: and ran on him and Georgia Texas ran all over
Speaker 12: the field on him. They can't stop a running quarterback.
Speaker 12: They know what's coming. They haven't been able to stop it.
Speaker 12: They couldn't stop the Florida's third stream Yale transfer quarterback.
Speaker 12: So it's just a situation where if they put Arch
Speaker 12: in there and let him run it, especially you know
Speaker 12: when they run that gh counter and the quarterback comes
Speaker 12: in behind it. Georgia's not being good at that. So
Speaker 12: it'll be very interesting to see how Georgia handles that
Speaker 12: one goal. They did not have for that first game, though,
Speaker 12: that might change the scheme, the approach, you know, the
Speaker 12: flow of the game. Small London also didn't play, and
Speaker 12: I remember he's the inside linebackers preseason all SEC. He
Speaker 12: missed that game in Austin as well, but he's been back,
Speaker 12: he's been healthy. He led the team and tackles last week,
Speaker 12: So it'll be interested to see if they use him
Speaker 12: as a spy in the arch Manning situations or you know,
Speaker 12: the way teams have attack Georgia has mainly been the
Speaker 12: fund whoever is. You know, when Georgia has a safety
Speaker 12: or a linebacker in coverage, everyone's talking about arch Manning
Speaker 12: maybe coming in and running it. But if I'm a
Speaker 12: seat ARCHESI and I do that, and I'll also go
Speaker 12: empty of five wide receivers it's at all possible and
Speaker 12: just say, okay, well who's who's covering, which safety's and coverage,
Speaker 12: which stars and coverage, which linebackers and coverage because that's
Speaker 12: where exectly I'm going to go ole Miss did it
Speaker 12: and it just killed Georgia. So tartigas watching the tape,
Speaker 12: he saw what all Miss did. I guarantee he'll repeat
Speaker 12: in this game again.
Speaker 4: We're catching up with Roddynobowlseyega sports dot com, part of
Speaker 4: the Rivals network of sites, to give us the Georgia
Speaker 4: side of today's SEC Championship game against the Texas Longhorns.
Speaker 4: I do want to get back over to the offensive
Speaker 4: side because kind of helped me out with this. I
Speaker 4: know that a Houston area kid Julian Humphrey uh is
Speaker 4: entering the transfer portal, so he's out. What is the
Speaker 4: status of Trevor et N. I've seen reports, but then
Speaker 4: I guess I saw another report Roddy that he is
Speaker 4: expected to play to get play today. What's going on there,
Speaker 4: especially for a guy that was so huge for them
Speaker 4: in the first matchup.
Speaker 12: He scored three touchdown, so you know, you'd a little
Speaker 12: love to have him back. And he's missed the last
Speaker 12: few games. He got banged up in the Florida game,
Speaker 12: hurt his ribs and then was ready to go the
Speaker 12: next week. But at some points, you know, away from
Speaker 12: the ball, hurt his ribs and made it worse. And
Speaker 12: sometimes when you get a small you know, hairline fracture
Speaker 12: or something, you can make it worse. He hasn't played
Speaker 12: the last few weeks, but I'm told from the my
Speaker 12: sources inside UG eight he has a chance to play,
Speaker 12: and we knew he wasn't he would in the last
Speaker 12: few weeks because he didn't even dress out. So the
Speaker 12: fact that I'm I'm sure he'll be dressed, but of
Speaker 12: course Georgian dresses. A lot of guys that may not
Speaker 12: play anyway, they did that with Robert Robinson and Branson Robinson,
Speaker 12: even though we knew those guys weren't going to play
Speaker 12: at all. But if you're getting closer, you know, and
Speaker 12: it's an extreme emergency, they'll have you dressed out. And
Speaker 12: I think at this point I expect to see him
Speaker 12: get in the game. I just think he'll be on
Speaker 12: a very tight pitch count, mainly because Georgia doesn't have
Speaker 12: a ton of depth of running back. He wants to
Speaker 12: get back. You definitely need that guy, but you're also
Speaker 12: going to look at you know, you're still in the playoffs,
Speaker 12: win or lose if he makes it worse, and then
Speaker 12: maybe you don't have him for December twentieth or the
Speaker 12: end of the month, so you don't do anything to
Speaker 12: make it worse.
Speaker 4: Final one for you here, Roddy. I mean you've covered
Speaker 4: recruiting for some time. Obviously you know the state, uh,
Speaker 4: but Kirby and his coaching staff seemingly have really liked
Speaker 4: the Houston area. Have you ever gotten any type of
Speaker 4: response from them in terms of, you know, seemingly why.
Speaker 4: It seems like they like to have at least one
Speaker 4: or two guys from this area and everyone at their classes.
Speaker 12: Well, it's one of the big things that Kirby Smart
Speaker 12: did when he got to Georgia was he started recruiting
Speaker 12: Texas hard. They did not have a lot of Texas
Speaker 12: players getting to Houston. I mean that's big boy football.
Speaker 12: And a lot of people say we'll go to California
Speaker 12: because they have the most D one players. Yeah, well
Speaker 12: they also have the biggest state, but per capita, giving
Speaker 12: the kids out of Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana and Texas, they
Speaker 12: played a different sort of football. And then when you
Speaker 12: go for speed, you head down the Florida because it's
Speaker 12: the fastest guys you'll ever fine, but Texas is absolutely loaded.
Speaker 12: I mean, look at what a feeder program. Feeder stated
Speaker 12: is for all these D one programs, and Kirby and
Speaker 12: Georgia just did not get a whole lot of them.
Speaker 12: Kirby's coach Alabama, where he got a lot of Texas players,
Speaker 12: and he's like, why aren't we getting our kids out Houston, Dallas,
Speaker 12: Fort Worth, give me all those kids, And he started
Speaker 12: getting them and it's He's won a couple of titles.
Speaker 12: I mean not only Julie Huppers, but I mean big
Speaker 12: Dyllan Bell's don't want to go big, Cash Jones, we
Speaker 12: want to go big in this game. He's got a
Speaker 12: lot of Texas kids that they went win this game, no.
Speaker 3: Doubt about it.
Speaker 4: You'll be watching it just like we will as well.
Speaker 4: Roddie appreciate the time safe travels getting from Athens to Atlanta,
Speaker 4: and hopefully we're all in for a good one today.
Speaker 7: I pickure awesome.
Speaker 4: Good to hear from you, buddy, Roddy Nibolsei again UGA
Speaker 4: sports dot Com part of the Rivals Network.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: Things we know about Houston area high school football and
Speaker 4: Kirby Smart, I mean he's not I mean when he
Speaker 4: took over the job, it seemed like it was at
Speaker 4: least once or you know, twice a class that he'd
Speaker 4: have a guy from the Houston area. I mean, Julian
Speaker 4: Humphrey looks like he's on his way out of the program.
Speaker 4: But Dylan Bell out of Kincaid, you got Cash Jones
Speaker 4: out of the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex. So Kirby Smart
Speaker 4: knows that we play good football here in this state
Speaker 4: on the high school levels. So you'll be seeing some
Speaker 4: of those guys on the field today. All right coming
Speaker 4: up next year. In this eleven o'clock hour of college
Speaker 4: Football Talk, with it being at college Football Championships Saturday,
Speaker 4: we are going to hear from Barrett's Lee of college
Speaker 4: Football Smothered and Covered, as well as kick dot Com
Speaker 4: and also Serious xem. He will be joining us right
Speaker 4: here on Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here with you
Speaker 4: on your home of Texas football and men's basketball here
Speaker 4: in the Houston area.
Speaker 3: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Space Cities Saturday on courts Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4: Well, there could be some jealousy today, especially if you
Speaker 4: are not on the winning side of Championship Saturday. Althose
Speaker 4: you just heard from Rodny Nibolesi right there, well, Texas
Speaker 4: and Georgia. At this point, it's just about whoever wins
Speaker 4: today gets inside the top four, so then you get
Speaker 4: to skip out on a couple of weeks from now.
Speaker 4: In that I mean, I don't even know if they're
Speaker 4: calling it a wildcard weekend, but it is the college
Speaker 4: football version of NFL Wildcard Weekend, so that's pretty much
Speaker 4: what that would be. And then the following ten days later,
Speaker 4: I think I think they're gonna still do the actual
Speaker 4: semifinals of the CFP on that January first and then
Speaker 4: go from there.
Speaker 3: So that's what you have to look forward to.
Speaker 4: But speaking of looking forward to things today, that's exactly
Speaker 4: what Barrett's lee again, college football smothered and covered as
Speaker 4: well as serious XM and OutKick dot Com. He joined
Speaker 4: me in Ross yesterday on The Matt Thomas Show with
Speaker 4: Ross and just like us, Barrett fired up and ready
Speaker 4: for today's games.
Speaker 13: Getting ready for a very unique SEC championship game. I
Speaker 13: don't know how many people thought we'd have Texas here
Speaker 13: in this game about five years ago, because I don't
Speaker 13: think anybody expected Texas to even.
Speaker 14: Be in his conference yet, yet here we are. It
Speaker 14: should be a lot of fun. Yeah, it should be
Speaker 14: a lot of fun. We'll definitely get tepted into it
Speaker 14: in a second. But I actually had a question of
Speaker 14: more general and we've been talking about this a lot
Speaker 14: on the show today with all the recruiting stuff that's
Speaker 14: been happening in the last couple of days, and we've
Speaker 14: talked about Phil Knight and what he's doing at Oregon.
Speaker 14: Clearly the boosters at Texas poning up the cash this year.
Speaker 14: What do you think happens long term with all this
Speaker 14: NIL money that's being spent. Because we've seen at some programs,
Speaker 14: for example an M they had the huge pop in
Speaker 14: twenty two, but since that's subsided, you've had some boosters
Speaker 14: in Miami and other schools talk about donor fatigue, but
Speaker 14: then these other schools keep popping up, and I mean,
Speaker 14: I don't know if Phil and I can even possibly
Speaker 14: get in loved with save him dying. I know, if
Speaker 14: he's gonna get donor fatigue. What is the future of
Speaker 14: the college landscape as it comes as it goes with NIL?
Speaker 14: When does the government step in or how long is
Speaker 14: it going to be the Wild West? This is what
Speaker 14: it feels like right now.
Speaker 13: Well, revenue sharing is coming, and I think that sort
Speaker 13: of will stabilize everything because the NIL the collectives, you know,
Speaker 13: I think they overspent for everything, right Like you mentioned Texas,
Speaker 13: A and M.
Speaker 7: Of the twenty six.
Speaker 13: Players who signed with that historic class, I think only
Speaker 13: eleven or ten or eleven are still there, and so
Speaker 13: donor fatigue will be real, especially for a lot of
Speaker 13: these guys who are are paid handsomely that just don't
Speaker 13: pan out, you know. So I think when revenue sharing
Speaker 13: kicks in, you're going to see a little bit more structure.
Speaker 13: Will there be deals done under the table? Sure, but
Speaker 13: I kind of liken this whole thing to Appenduleum right
Speaker 13: ten years ago. I mean, everybody would be floored by
Speaker 13: Cam Newton making one hundred and eighty thousand dollars, which
Speaker 13: is chump change now, and now you've got twelve million
Speaker 13: dollars from quarterbacks going from LSU to Michigan.
Speaker 7: Sorry Dan.
Speaker 13: And then now it's going to come back to the
Speaker 13: middle with revenue sharing.
Speaker 7: So I think it's just a natural progression.
Speaker 13: And you know, as far as the government, I don't
Speaker 13: trust anything the federal government does at this point, but
Speaker 13: I think it'll stabilize just with the revenue sharing that's coming.
Speaker 4: Apparents Lee again joining us a host of college football
Speaker 4: Smothered and Cover. You can also hear him on Sirius
Speaker 4: XM College Channel eighty four. Let's talk about the game tomorrow, Barrett.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a game that I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: after October fifteenth, Texas was looking at it and saying, Gosh,
Speaker 4: would really like to have those guys again. What could
Speaker 4: be the storyline tomorrow? If Texas is able to exact revenge.
Speaker 13: Well, they do to Carson Beck what they did to
Speaker 13: Carson Beck last time. You know, you guys saw it firsthand,
Speaker 13: and and folks around my part in the state of
Speaker 13: Georgia just sort of choose to ignore the fact that
Speaker 13: Carson Beck was outright bad in that game against Texas,
Speaker 13: And honestly, Trevor etn scored the touch downs, but they
Speaker 13: weren't very good on the ground either. That offense was
Speaker 13: was pretty dreadful. And that's a credit to Texas's defense,
Speaker 13: which has been, you know, pretty solid all season long,
Speaker 13: to say the least. So I think they're gonna have
Speaker 13: to do to Carson Beck what what they did last time,
Speaker 13: and hope they get a little bit better offensive offensive
Speaker 13: line plays. And without Kelvin Banks or with the limited
Speaker 13: Kelvin Banks, whatever happens with him, that's gonna be difficult.
Speaker 13: But I think that's the biggest thing is if if
Speaker 13: they do to Carson Beck what they did last time,
Speaker 13: they should at least give themselves a puncher's chance as
Speaker 13: long as they're able to figure out how to block
Speaker 13: Michael Williams and some of those guys. So and look,
Speaker 13: talking to some folks around here, you know, there there
Speaker 13: is a lot of scuttle butt around around that defense
Speaker 13: that you know, maybe after a lot of those players
Speaker 13: put that Texas game on tape, they kind of backed
Speaker 13: off a little bit. And I don't know how much
Speaker 13: validity there is to that, but that kind of mindset
Speaker 13: could linger. Even if you do go all out, you know,
Speaker 13: you might not necessarily know what you're true.
Speaker 7: All out is if you're looking for the looking to
Speaker 7: go to the pros. So, you know, I think it's gonna.
Speaker 13: Be, uh, you know, a situation where you know, if
Speaker 13: they can just repeat what they did defensively, they're probably
Speaker 13: gonna give themselves a chance. But that would definitely uh
Speaker 13: center around their offensive line, uh, playing just a little
Speaker 13: bit better, to say the least.
Speaker 15: What's your opinion of Quinn Ewers as a quarterback in general,
Speaker 15: and especially considering keeping in mind that he was benched
Speaker 15: last time these two teams met.
Speaker 13: Uh, My opinion of him is that he does not
Speaker 13: have a ceiling that's nearly as high as I thought
Speaker 13: it was, and then a lot of people thought it was.
Speaker 7: But his his floor is pretty high.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 13: He's not gonna go out there and make stupid mistakes
Speaker 13: like Carson Beck will like a lot of other quarterbacks
Speaker 13: in the in the SEC, well, Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 7: So you know, to me, he is he's.
Speaker 13: A he's an above average quarterback who is is not
Speaker 13: necessarily gonna be a difference maker in every single game,
Speaker 13: but he's certainly not gonna lose your games.
Speaker 7: And and I think in the.
Speaker 13: SEC this year that's that plays well because you know
Speaker 13: it is so you know Jekyl and Hyde essentially with
Speaker 13: every single team, and so you know, as far as
Speaker 13: moving forward the pros.
Speaker 7: I I have no idea.
Speaker 13: I don't scout scout people like that, but I think
Speaker 13: right now for me, he's a he's a perfect quarterback
Speaker 13: for this particular season in the Southeastern Conference.
Speaker 7: Uh, and he's gonna have to be better.
Speaker 13: He's gonna have to show a higher ceiling if they're
Speaker 13: gonna win the national championship because you know, Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 13: has not slowed down at all this year, right, So
Speaker 13: I mean, if Oregon's gonna continue to do what it does,
Speaker 13: it's gonna be hard for Texas to uh keep up.
Speaker 13: And and if if that becomes a track meet, if
Speaker 13: that's into that ends up being a matchup at some point. So, uh,
Speaker 13: you know, I think he's he's really solid. Quinn's really solid,
Speaker 13: but he does not have the upside that uh that
Speaker 13: that I thought he'd have because I, you know, I
Speaker 13: hell I Paton win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 7: So that shows you exactly where he'd be.
Speaker 3: How dare you, Barrett? How dare you? All right?
Speaker 4: Let's flip it up to Charlotte though, because another game
Speaker 4: that's of somewhat local interest around here, SMU and Clemson.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of scuttle about SMU. They lose this game, hey,
Speaker 4: they should still be in What do you have to
Speaker 4: say about that? Like, do you do you think that
Speaker 4: the committee would, honestly if SMU loses put them in.
Speaker 12: Dan.
Speaker 7: I have no idea what the committee's thinking right now.
Speaker 13: For eleven years we heard we'll start with the blank
Speaker 13: sheet of paper, clean slate, blah blah blah. And then
Speaker 13: suddenly Ward Manual's like, oh yeah, they're all set in
Speaker 13: stone on Tuesday.
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, that's that's not how it works. And
Speaker 7: they did mention that SMU.
Speaker 13: They said hypothetically SMU could drop below Alabama, But then
Speaker 13: they don't want to talk about hypotheticals, whatever, But it's
Speaker 13: kind of a job I think they're gonna I don't
Speaker 13: think they're gonna punish SMU that much.
Speaker 7: Right, they ran the table in the ACC.
Speaker 13: That is, that's really hard to do for anybody, right,
Speaker 13: I don't care that the ACC is down doing it
Speaker 13: as hard. They're one loss right now to BYU is
Speaker 13: a pretty quality loss. Their second with Clemson would be
Speaker 13: a quality loss as well. Alabama has two of their
Speaker 13: three losses are inexcusable, so I think that would matter.
Speaker 13: But above all else, I don't think they're gonna punish
Speaker 13: any team for playing their way into a game that
Speaker 13: they lose. You know, I've kind of thought about this,
Speaker 13: and to me, I think these championship games and an
Speaker 13: expanded playoff are going to be basically like how the
Speaker 13: Basketball Committee treats conference championship a conference tournament.
Speaker 7: I hate comparing football to basketball, but.
Speaker 13: In this case, I think they will in a sense
Speaker 13: that you can play your way up in a conference
Speaker 13: championship game, but unless you lose in the first round
Speaker 13: in epic fashion, you're not really gonna play your way
Speaker 13: back down. And I hope that's how they approach it.
Speaker 13: But Dan I have no idea what to expect of
Speaker 13: this committee anymore.
Speaker 7: To be honest with you, anybody does.
Speaker 15: Yeah, do you Barrett talking about Barrett's sale here on
Speaker 15: a sports Talk seven ninety do you think they should
Speaker 15: keep the automatic bids for conference championships or a conference
Speaker 15: champions or do.
Speaker 7: Away with it?
Speaker 13: Automatic bids are the dumbest thing in all of sports.
Speaker 13: I don't like them in in pro sports. I mean,
Speaker 13: I really what, I am a Falcons fan. There are
Speaker 13: several years where I wouldn't even want my Falcons making
Speaker 13: the playoffs if they're seven and nine or seven and ten,
Speaker 13: and that's been a possibility.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just and especially.
Speaker 13: In a sport like college football, you have one hundred
Speaker 13: and thirty four teams.
Speaker 7: Every conference is built differently.
Speaker 13: There's you know, their scheduling differences are as wide as
Speaker 13: the Grand Canyon. Sometimes why should anybody get an automatic bid?
Speaker 13: But you know these are this is the system that
Speaker 13: all these guys voted on.
Speaker 7: All these commissioners are out for themselves.
Speaker 13: They know that they need to have a chance to
Speaker 13: get in with our conference champion regardless.
Speaker 7: So you know it's it's not going to change.
Speaker 13: But like I said, I think automatic bids are ridiculous.
Speaker 13: Based on conferences, based on geography, based on whatever. You know,
Speaker 13: none of those things actually prove if you're a great
Speaker 13: team or not.
Speaker 4: Barrett's if you know, as far as we go for
Speaker 4: the CFP, do you think that it is going to
Speaker 4: be set up well enough where we can have every
Speaker 4: single of these wild card weekend games be competitive or
Speaker 4: do you think that we're in for two three of
Speaker 4: them to be well?
Speaker 3: Kind of wasting my time watching that one.
Speaker 7: I think a few of them are going to be
Speaker 7: pretty bad.
Speaker 13: Look, I like Indiana, I really do. If they get
Speaker 13: you know, Alabama or whatever, it's going to be sad, right,
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean there are going to be a
Speaker 13: few that are just ridiculous, and automatic bids are a
Speaker 13: part of that, right, Like that's just that's the way
Speaker 13: things all are.
Speaker 7: And you know, they're not going to change.
Speaker 13: Like I said, they got to throw some of these
Speaker 13: conferences and conference commissioners a bone, and you know, they
Speaker 13: get what they need and they're gonna get that money.
Speaker 13: But yeah, I think some of these first round games
Speaker 13: they might be aesthetically pleasing because they're on home campus
Speaker 13: stadiums and that'll be cool for playoff games, but you know,
Speaker 13: I would imagine that in some of these they look
Speaker 13: a lot like those paycheck games that everybody complains about
Speaker 13: early in September.
Speaker 4: And I mean final one for me here is you know,
Speaker 4: you get Ryan Day losing to Michigan for the fourth
Speaker 4: time in a row. I know what the ad said
Speaker 4: the other day, but not only him, but Lincoln Riley
Speaker 4: as well. I mean, we've seen late in the cycle
Speaker 4: firings before. Do you envision that maybe sc or Ohio State.
Speaker 4: Could you know, say Ohio State gets bounced in the
Speaker 4: first round that finally you could have rossby York saying yeah,
Speaker 4: it's been real Ryan, but we're moving on.
Speaker 13: Well, I don't think with USC, although Lincoln Riley's way
Speaker 13: over eight, but I don't think it's going to happen.
Speaker 13: I think with Ryan Day, you kind of have two different,
Speaker 13: two different camps at work, right. You have I would think,
Speaker 13: a relatively younger group of influencers that say, hey, look,
Speaker 13: it's the national championship that's more important than the rivalry,
Speaker 13: and then you have older folks to say no, no, no
Speaker 13: rivalry over everything. Those two have been sort of at
Speaker 13: odds over the last three years. But if they lose
Speaker 13: a playoff game in round one, they're gonna be They're
Speaker 13: gonna be all kind of together, or at least closer together.
Speaker 13: And so it wouldn't surprise me if they lose a
Speaker 13: playoff game, especially if it's big, especially if it's at home,
Speaker 13: which it looks like they will be playing a home
Speaker 13: game in less than chaos and tews, So it wouldn't
Speaker 13: terribly It wouldn't surprise me terribly if they decide to
Speaker 13: move on, because like, look, if you're good but not great,
Speaker 13: that can only last for so long at a place
Speaker 13: like Ohio State that at some point you got to
Speaker 13: break through. At some point, you got to win a
Speaker 13: national championship. And if you're if you're close, okay, that's
Speaker 13: tolerable most of the time. But if you're close, you
Speaker 13: never break through. And it don't beat your rival, especially
Speaker 13: in a year when your rival can't complete a forward pass.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that change might have to happen.
Speaker 4: Hey, final one here if you follow Barrett on Twitter
Speaker 4: at barretts Lee is where you can find them. What
Speaker 4: is this thing that you posted that they're going to
Speaker 4: be serving tomorrow at Mercedes Benz Stadium.
Speaker 13: It's a rack of ribs that looks like a bowl,
Speaker 13: and it's got it's got all kinds of stuff in
Speaker 13: the middle. It's got sour cream, cheese, kettle chips, and
Speaker 13: it's looks like a volcano. And there are only one
Speaker 13: hundred dishes of it, and Texas fans and Georgia fans
Speaker 13: get get to pick which one they want has been in.
Speaker 13: The Georgia version has Saint Louis ribs with with a
Speaker 13: sweet tea honey sauce, and then the the Texas version
Speaker 13: is Texas ribs with Chipotle barbecue.
Speaker 7: Do we have a do you have a calorie count
Speaker 7: on that?
Speaker 13: More than you should have in a day? I'm going
Speaker 13: to go mention that. I guess all right.
Speaker 7: That is Barrett's Lee.
Speaker 15: Thanks so much for the time joining us here on
Speaker 15: Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. Barrett, let them know
Speaker 15: the folks know where they can find your content.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you can download watch whatever the College of Bossmothering
Speaker 13: covered daily show. You can catch it on YouTube, Apple, Spotify,
Speaker 13: all that stuff.
Speaker 7: Serious XM.
Speaker 13: We'll do a Sunday morning recap show and I'm sure
Speaker 13: that will be lively and then Colins on out kick,
Speaker 13: basically recapping the entire weekend.
Speaker 3: All right, there you go.
Speaker 4: Barrett's lee with us yesterday on the Matt Thomas Show
Speaker 4: with Ross, so good stuff from Helm. That's enough for
Speaker 4: the college football conversation because coming out next this is
Speaker 4: something that I think most of us in this industry
Speaker 4: have been through at one time or another, and there's
Speaker 4: a lot to get into on the other side. I'll
Speaker 4: let you hear what I'm talking about. What's some context
Speaker 4: added as well? As we close out this edition of
Speaker 4: Space City Saturday, Dan Matthews here on your home of
Speaker 4: the Astros and the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: This is Space City Saturday on Sports Talk seven night.
Speaker 3: I like it, Melton Brown, I like it.
Speaker 4: I see what you're doing here with the Counting Crows,
Speaker 4: because well we are in the December. But I mean
Speaker 4: that's also a song kind of that. It's kind of
Speaker 4: like a train leave in the station. It takes a
Speaker 4: little bit to get going there. You know, an eighteen
Speaker 4: wheeler stuck in traffic, if you're stuck behind them, then
Speaker 4: you know, boy, you know they're not really able to
Speaker 4: get that moment I'm going yet, so but no, it's
Speaker 4: it's Counting Crows season right now in terms of the music,
Speaker 4: although I mean you get the Christmas music, which, of
Speaker 4: course you know Sunday ninety nine point one, all Christmas
Speaker 4: music all the time right now. So our friends over
Speaker 4: there at Sunny you know you can count on them
Speaker 4: as you're driving around doing your holiday shopping. I know
Speaker 4: some of you might be doing that right now because
Speaker 4: you want to be able to settle in for the
Speaker 4: Texas two step tonight of a major college football conference
Speaker 4: championship games. You've got the Georgia Texas game coming up
Speaker 4: middle of the afternoon.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: And then of course from some of you that are
Speaker 4: of the pony persuasion for the SMU Mustangs, you're gonna
Speaker 4: have SMU taking on Clemson. Clemson with a quarterback from
Speaker 4: the State of Texas former Westlake product Kate Klubnick.
Speaker 3: Whose uncle, Funny enough, was my young life leader in
Speaker 3: high school.
Speaker 4: So shout out to his uncle John as I'm sure
Speaker 4: they're going to be keeping close tabs today on what's
Speaker 4: happening there. The Big twelve championship game going on right now,
Speaker 4: and Arizona State with a huge defensive stand against Iowa State.
Speaker 4: So Iowa State having the lineup and kick a field
Speaker 4: goal to try to tie that one up at ten.
Speaker 4: So tons of fun college football today. But I said
Speaker 4: we were done with the college football talk, and I
Speaker 4: mean it because if you are on social media, you
Speaker 4: probably caught this last night. But there was an interesting
Speaker 4: interaction on air between Wfan and New York's Keith mcpher,
Speaker 4: who I think hosts their night show there, and also
Speaker 4: longtime baseball writer John Hayman. Now, of course, John Hayman
Speaker 4: is not incredibly popular around these parts because I mean
Speaker 4: he's kind of thought of as being a little bit
Speaker 4: of a Yankees honk a little bit, but also too,
Speaker 4: I mean for other reasons as well, that people are
Speaker 4: not the largest fan of John Hayman.
Speaker 3: I'll get to that here in.
Speaker 4: Just a second, because we start off first with the
Speaker 4: context behind all of this. Remember this time last year
Speaker 4: you had Aaron Judge going through his free agency process
Speaker 4: and there were people who wondered, is Aaron Judge actually
Speaker 4: gonna leave the Yankees? And John Haman had the report
Speaker 4: that he got wrong twofold and his tweet was Arson
Speaker 4: Judge likely headed to the Giants. Well, first off, his
Speaker 4: name's not Arson, Judge, it's Aaron. And also too, he
Speaker 4: ended up not going to his childhood favorite team, the
Speaker 4: San Francisco Giants. So that's what that was on that
Speaker 4: And of course you had the Twitter Warriors who immediately
Speaker 4: pounced on John Hayman for getting that wrong and they
Speaker 4: started to kind of get at him that way. So
Speaker 4: he's been having to wear that a little bit. But
Speaker 4: it's something that was brought up last night when he
Speaker 4: joined Keith McPherson. And let's just say that the attempt
Speaker 4: at a joke from Keith McPherson, it did not go
Speaker 4: well at some point.
Speaker 16: I think someone could could probably drop it if they're
Speaker 16: a nice person.
Speaker 11: I thought, what I think is is one. It's just
Speaker 11: like how I introduce you. Everybody in baseball knows who
Speaker 11: you are, so one. It's a credit to your work you're.
Speaker 16: Following now, by the way, I won't be going on
Speaker 16: with you again. The whole thing has been a disaster.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 1: I can't even.
Speaker 16: Believe you said that to question my integrity.
Speaker 11: Are you being serious right now?
Speaker 16: I'm being serious? Yeah, John, Mean, if I'm getting a
Speaker 16: cut because I have a relationship with an agent. That's us.
Speaker 16: I know you're not a journalist. You don't know anything
Speaker 16: about this. I know you get and you don't, but
Speaker 16: that's an outrageous It's Friday night at eight, John, and
Speaker 16: I am goodbye.
Speaker 1: John.
Speaker 11: You know, thank you for Thank you, John, appreciate your
Speaker 11: your time.
Speaker 4: So there you go, John Hayman, Keith, Keith McPherson getting
Speaker 4: into it right there, John, pretty fired up. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: start with John first. Look in that situation right there.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a better way that you can handle it.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna get to Keith too, because there's some
Speaker 4: there's some fault with Keith. But I'm gonna start with John.
Speaker 4: Don't lecture people about journalism. You're not the gate keeper
Speaker 4: for journalism. And if you're going to try to do
Speaker 4: the whole journalism thing, I'm gonna get slightly political here.
Speaker 3: But John, that argument right now is widely.
Speaker 4: Rejected by people, and people like you are starting to
Speaker 4: really get on people's nerves about, Oh, I'm the only
Speaker 4: one that can really do this job.
Speaker 3: You're not.
Speaker 4: And I think that the current climate of this business
Speaker 4: has shown you that you're not.
Speaker 3: For the most part, John's in a dying business.
Speaker 4: I mean, print journalism is going away, and it's no
Speaker 4: better example of newspapers continuing to shed payroll like crazy,
Speaker 4: because people don't subscribe to newspapers anymore. People don't read
Speaker 4: newspapers anymore. Like it's a part of the business that
Speaker 4: is no longer as as as widely it's it's no
Speaker 4: longer as widely demanded as it was in the past.
Speaker 3: And I mean, if you're going to try.
Speaker 4: To go that route, I've got to tell you you're
Speaker 4: not gonna have a ton of people on your side.
Speaker 4: So just hang up the phone and move on. I
Speaker 4: think John made himself look a lot worse in that situation.
Speaker 4: I think if he had just left it at hey, man,
Speaker 4: that's not cool. Don't bring that up, because look, I've
Speaker 4: been in situations before where I've had an interview with
Speaker 4: somebody and they texted me afterwards and said, hey, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna lie. I didn't really pre shape that question.
Speaker 4: That's cool. I can handle it. I'm not perfect. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to be perfect. Some of you have a
Speaker 4: voice to me that you're not a huge fan of
Speaker 4: sometimes how I handle my shows, that's your opinion. You're
Speaker 4: more than welcome the field that way. But it's also
Speaker 4: too as well. Keith wanted a cheap shot right there.
Speaker 4: He wanted a cheap pop, and there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people in our business that'll do that and then try
Speaker 4: to do the whole Oh I'm.
Speaker 3: Kidding, man, I'm kidding.
Speaker 4: No, you're not like you're trying to get some clout
Speaker 4: with your audience. You're trying to make yourself look good
Speaker 4: and make yourself look funny. And if you're going to
Speaker 4: do that, then I mean own up to it and
Speaker 4: just say hey, look. I mean, once John started to
Speaker 4: come back at Keith, I would have had more respect
Speaker 4: for Keith if Keith would have just said, hey, John,
Speaker 4: you got it wrong, dude, Like what do you want
Speaker 4: from me?
Speaker 3: Like you got the report wrong?
Speaker 4: You called the guy Arson second of all, because you
Speaker 4: were even to your own admittance right there, trying to
Speaker 4: get it right and trying to be first on it
Speaker 4: that you're sad yourself up for this. So I mean
Speaker 4: that's the other part of it as well. If you're
Speaker 4: going to do the cheap pop right there, then do
Speaker 4: it and just own up to it and just say hey, look,
Speaker 4: if that's the way the guy wants to act and
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to take a joke. That's on him,
Speaker 4: But also too is well, you know how you also
Speaker 4: keep yourself out of this situation. John, You don't get
Speaker 4: the report wrong and you don't get the guy's name wrong.
Speaker 3: Like that's how you do that in that situation.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, there's faults on both sides with this,
Speaker 4: but too at the same time, if nothing else, it
Speaker 4: provides good content for us to be able to pass along.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure a lot of you that are Astro
Speaker 4: fans are probably like.
Speaker 3: Egg on John Hayman's face again.
Speaker 4: So the New York Post columnist, come on, man, you're
Speaker 4: not teaching a class here. You're not the gatekeeper of journalism. Like,
Speaker 4: don't go that card because it's not a card worth
Speaker 4: playing anymore.
Speaker 3: Anyway, that's gonna do it for us here on Space
Speaker 3: City Saturday.
Speaker 4: As I want to thank Melvin Brown as always, also
Speaker 4: want to thank Brian mctag. I want to thank Barrett
Speaker 4: sta Lee, Roddy topolse Will Matthews as well, as we
Speaker 4: had a really fun show today.
Speaker 3: Joy College Football Championship Saturday.
Speaker 4: I'm Dan Matthews. We'll catch up with you next week
Speaker 4: right here, Sports Talk seven ninety