WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:03.040 Okay, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete on five 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:04.519 seventy l a sports. 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:05.679 Uh. 4 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:09.960 Kevin has been working on something special, okay, and it 5 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:12.199 is ready about Luca Doncion, so we will have that 6 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:15.599 coming up. But now Rodney, let's welcome on the man 7 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.960 who has been there for all of them, and we'll 8 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:22.239 ride this wave to the end. Dan Wiki La times, 9 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:23.920 our good friend, Dan. 10 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.559 Welcome to the show, guys. That's how point break ends 11 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:31.320 for Patrick Swaythey's character. He just rides away to the 12 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.000 end and it's not a happy ending for him. 13 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.359 No. He goes to a big wave, the giant once 14 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:39.719 in a once in a fifty year wave. Is that 15 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:40.200 what it was? 16 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:44.359 Now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'll never see them again. No, 17 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:45.240 I never see them again. 18 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:48.679 And Keanu Reeves lets him go, lets him go. 19 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:52.200 Let's the let's the seas swallow him right, Like, why 20 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:57.039 you know they call it nautical justice, Rodney, nautical justice, 21 00:00:58.039 --> 00:00:59.320 they don't call it that. I don't know what I'm 22 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:01.000 talking about. I'm some punch drunk. 23 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:07.319 I bet you are no sleep for Dan Wiki man. Dan, 24 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:10.359 this before we get into the like specific question, just 25 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.159 your thoughts on last night and that whole atmosphere then 26 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:20.840 I mean Dallas Lakers, Luca Lebron, Mavericks. 27 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:24.799 Yeah, I hyperbole to say, like, so I've been covering 28 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.359 in a games after like fifteen seasons or something like that. 29 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:31.040 This will be one of the games I remember forever. 30 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:36.879 I don't know if or when I'll ever be in 31 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.079 a situation where the arena is so emotionally charged in 32 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:44.680 that way where you know everybody is wearing some version 33 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.359 of a Luca Doger jersey. It seemed like, guy's the 34 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:49.879 craziest thing that happened. Obviously there's the cheering, and there's 35 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:52.120 the fire and eco chance if you guys notice this 36 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.640 or not. But early in the second half, Luca got 37 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.079 called for a travel and the crowd booed, like everyone booed, 38 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.439 which was like like when when will you ever see 39 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.920 the road team committed turnover and the home the home 40 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:11.240 fans boo the decision like that that was it was 41 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:14.879 a one on one experience, and you know, as my colleague, 42 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:16.800 you know, Dylan Hernandez sort of wrote like, you know, 43 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.599 like kind of like Otani going and Homer in Japan, 44 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:21.960 like you know, it's this is what we expected you. 45 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:23.400 We expect you to put on a show and not 46 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.360 only do you do it, but you you somehow even 47 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:29.159 raise the bar. And uh, I think as LA fans 48 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:33.439 start to forge these bonds and these relationships with Lukadagic, 49 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.280 like you look at what look at what he meant 50 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.360 to Dallas and you know if you if you buy in, 51 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:40.360 like there's a chance will mean this for you here 52 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:40.919 to in La. 53 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.479 If you're a Nico Harrison, how did you feel last night? 54 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:54.560 Probably discourt Like honestly I would I would have mostly 55 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.599 just been angry and like kind of cursing the basketball gods, right, 56 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:01.879 because the way out of any of these decisions right 57 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:08.000 is to win, right, and they have not won and 58 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.800 not necessarily even you know, partly obviously in Nick Harrison's 59 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:13.919 vault because he made the trade. But you know, look, 60 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:17.280 Anthony Davis plays a half of a game, wants to 61 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:19.439 do the right thing and be there for his new 62 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:22.000 organization and gets hurt and then you don't see him 63 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.919 for you know, five weeks, like Kyrie Irving, you know, 64 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.919 blows out his knee and you don't see him. You know, 65 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:35.919 it is a very like unfulfilled vision. But like, I 66 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.199 don't know, that's the thought I had and there's been 67 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:39.800 like a lot said and then there will be a 68 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.400 lot said kind of about what what Nico Harrison did 69 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:44.560 and shouldn't have done and all that stuff. I think 70 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:47.120 my new general rule guys is, if the tribute video 71 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.560 is gonna be that good, you don't do the trade. 72 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.439 That's how you know if you've got to If you've 73 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.639 got two minutes that are that good, that means probably 74 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.120 he's that person should still be a part of your 75 00:03:59.199 --> 00:03:59.960 organization if you want. 76 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.759 Yeah, but when a tribute video good for Anthony Davis 77 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:03.280 when they did. 78 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.800 It here in La not that good. 79 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:09.439 Yeah, but still but it's been there. 80 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:12.680 It was good, It wasn't that good? Was it wasn't that? 81 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.400 There's been tribute videos. What I'm what I'm saying is. 82 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.519 I'm telling you one is when it's like, is that 83 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:22.560 like that organization? Like because it's because you're watching him 84 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:27.240 from eighteen, you know what I mean? Like you hear 85 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.639 his English skip better, you see his silliness, you see 86 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.160 his goofiness. Like these are the things that like we're 87 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.920 starting to see a little bit being around him to day, 88 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.920 Like uh, they like they lost the other night and 89 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.800 one of the I won't say who but a Laker 90 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:44.240 sports staffer. You know, they lost the game. I think 91 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.360 it was the night Luca got ejected and he was, 92 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:50.800 you know, pretty upset, and Luca hit him with the 93 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:52.839 tap you on your left shoulder, but I'm on your 94 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:57.560 right side. After the game, you know, like for just 95 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.759 like a quick little smile and like he has this 96 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.920 kind of ease and energy to him that like it 97 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.800 enables people that are around him like really really ride 98 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.319 for him. And then you know, for the fan base 99 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.839 in Dallas, like who had just gone through that kind 100 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:16.199 of like you know, multi generational run with Dirt Davitski 101 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.319 to like feel like they had it again and maybe 102 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:23.079 even had it better. You know, I think that's why 103 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.439 they they've reacted the way they've reacted. Like, you know, 104 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.680 I saw somebody say something along the lines of I 105 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.839 think it was Jason Gallagher who said Massan used to 106 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.480 work on JJ Reddick's podcast. Said like people will say 107 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:39.519 that like, you know, we're turning on the mass But 108 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.680 it feels more like the MAVs turned on us. And 109 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.920 I think that's because how much they meant and none 110 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.160 of this is this is like really running the unfortunate 111 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.240 part because this does all sort of read as shaded 112 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.000 Anthony Davis, and it's not. It's not and it was 113 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.800 gonna be a whole of fame. Anthony Davis deserves to 114 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:56.600 be one of the seventy five best players of all time. 115 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:01.920 That stuff's all true, like Lucas, just at a different 116 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:06.439 level like this is I mean Ronney, Like I didn't 117 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:11.240 see major Johnson play. I imagine he made people oh 118 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:12.279 yeah yeah. 119 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:14.800 But but at the same time, look at won at 120 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.120 t and won a title and won a title, and 121 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.279 when any and one really I mean, he got to 122 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.079 the finals, they won a title, and and for this 123 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:28.199 for this to be you know, again going back we 124 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.399 talked about this a little bit earlier Dan, for this 125 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.639 to be all on Nico and and this not be 126 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:42.279 a club wide organization decision, it's absurd that he takes 127 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.639 the run of it. And then you've got the owner 128 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.360 coming out and said, I hired the basketball people to 129 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.040 do the basketball things and make the decisions and not 130 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:52.720 take ownership of we. 131 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.079 Collectively make Who else is it on? 132 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.759 You mean, I mean, you don't think you don't think 133 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:02.160 they're the owner, you don't think they call the owner. 134 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.120 Let's sign this sign on this. 135 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:07.120 Trade for sure, But usually how that works though, is 136 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.839 like when it's your idea, you know, generally speaking right now, Look, 137 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:13.480 I don't I don't want to. I don't want to 138 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.160 pretend to know. I'm not gonna be naive. I'man to 139 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:17.519 tell you, I don't want to pretend to know that 140 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.480 I know exactly how this happened. But like the way 141 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:22.639 that it's been mostly presented to me was that this 142 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.279 was Nico Harrison's like deep and then when it is 143 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.480 your idea, you have to argue for it. Right, do 144 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.319 you have to sell your idea? You have to sell. 145 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.360 You have to sell your idea to ownership that this 146 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.720 is what I think we should do. Ownership was happy 147 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.959 to do it, or at least to some degree, we're 148 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.480 obviously willing to do it. They didn't want to pay him. 149 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:41.360 The money to the dumb owner in the league. If 150 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.800 you're going to allow that to happen, you're incompetent. As 151 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:48.079 Fred said, I don't know how you made money. Rodney 152 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:51.399 made money in your life, and if you. 153 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.720 I mean like I would tell you to google. I 154 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.639 would tell you to google how he made his money 155 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.000 and involved two words I and do. 156 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.000 I do mm hmm. 157 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.199 Here's the thing, Dan, and we talked about this certainly, 158 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:12.759 and I know you'll agree. If Rob Polinco wants to 159 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.199 bring somebody up from the G League, that's your job. Rob. 160 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.279 You make a decision if you want to fill out 161 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:21.240 the ninth spot on the roster. Okay, Rob, go ahead. 162 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:25.600 If you're gonna trade Lebron James, then you're gonna have 163 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:27.279 a conversation with Genie Boss. 164 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.560 I mean, usually guys, if you're gonna trade future first 165 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:34.240 round draft picks, like I mean, that's usually, like I'm 166 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.120 telling you, like, that's usually where the bar is on 167 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.399 this type of stuff, right when you get everybody involved 168 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.600 and like like sure there may be like kind of 169 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.240 the rubber stamping, but usually if you're talking about like 170 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:46.240 what the team's gonna look like in two years from now, 171 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.120 you know, ownerships involved, and this is the type of 172 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:53.039 trade that like, honestly, like is gonna have you know, 173 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:59.279 a ten year minimum ramification on the Dallas packricks, Right, 174 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:01.360 Like you're just the and you just I don't know 175 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.440 what needs to happen for you to be a MAVs 176 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.799 fan and to feel good about being in that arena again. 177 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.519 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Fred Fred just put 178 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:12.080 it out that that you don't make a decision without 179 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:15.840 the owners signing officer. Sure, are you agreeing with that? 180 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:17.320 Are you agreeing with that? Or no? 181 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.559 Look, ownership obviously signed off on this. I'm just saying, though, 182 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.919 if you're the person who has the idea, you got 183 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:24.399 to own it. 184 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.840 And he's owned it. He showed up at the arena. 185 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.799 He owns it. But what I don't like is that 186 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:36.000 the ownership threw him under the bus and said it's 187 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.279 all on them. They made the decision or he made 188 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.080 the decision. I trust the management all of that. When 189 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:45.639 yeah all got in a room and had a conversation 190 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.759 about this is what we're going to do, and instead 191 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.399 of saying collectively as an organization, we made this decision, 192 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.840 you said, Hey, I hired the guy to make the decisions, 193 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.519 and he made that decision. So I'm out of this. 194 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.679 Ronnie. I don't disagree with you. I will just say 195 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.720 that I believe you know there are seating capacities on lifeboats. 196 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:26.440 Yeahs town, It's just like you know fire Nico is 197 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:27.320 a snappier chant. 198 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.440 Then sell the team Patrick like there's an element of 199 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.559 that too, right, Like and Nico was the first person, 200 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.840 Like he was the one who executed the trade. He 201 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.080 was the first person out there to justify it. And 202 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.159 like one of the craziest things about this trade, and 203 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:46.200 like had it even worked for Dallas, like really truly worked, right, 204 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:49.080 Like I remember in the day after that that deal 205 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.360 talking to people down there who were like skeptical that 206 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.320 their fans would accept it even if it came with 207 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.840 a championship attached to it like that. That's and I 208 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:00.960 think that we saw that bear out right, Like you 209 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.960 saw how those people reacted to Luka Doncic, You saw 210 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:08.720 how Luca reacted to those people. You know, That's that's 211 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.559 probably why, like even you know, I'm not sure there 212 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:12.879 are people in that crowd that would trade it. 213 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.279 Here's my where's my question? Since we're we're putting like 214 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:19.639 Luca on this big time pedestal now, right because he 215 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:21.879 went back to Dallas and went crazy, are we going 216 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:24.679 to put him under the same Are we going to 217 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.559 put him under the same standard as Lebron James or 218 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:31.120 anybody else. He's got to come He's got to come 219 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.399 here and win a title within the next two three years. 220 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:40.759 I mean, I think that's the expectation. Yeah, okay, you know. 221 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.240 I'm just checking. I'm just checking. I'm just checking because 222 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.879 because everybody's like, now, okay, we've got our guy. This, 223 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.600 this is the standard, this is he's the epitome of everything. 224 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:53.480 And we won the trade and we won all this 225 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.399 and came here. You gotta go win it. You gotta 226 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.279 go win a title. And if he doesn't win a 227 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:04.919 title here, are we going to keep him under the 228 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:08.519 same scrutiny as we do other people that goes go 229 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.159 to places and don't win a particular title. 230 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:15.840 I mean I think, like I mean, I would, I guess, 231 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:19.720 I hope. So I think you know are you? Are you? 232 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:20.480 Are you? 233 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:24.720 You are going to commit to being angry about time? 234 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:29.039 I want you to say that within you give him 235 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:33.200 a timeline within two three years, three years, three years, 236 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:34.360 got to win a title here. 237 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:36.759 Actually, I'm smarter than to do it last time. There 238 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.879 was a three year timeline issue around the Lakers, like 239 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.840 you know, Jimmy puff off his chop. I will not 240 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:48.759 make any timeline predictions. What I will say is that like, yes, 241 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.120 he will have access to and he currently has access 242 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.840 to you know, a team that believes it is good 243 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:56.879 enough to win a championship right now, if he doesn't 244 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:00.200 perform in the playoffs, he will hear it. You will 245 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.840 hear it from me, They'll hear it from fans. That's 246 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.519 a thousand percent. I think what will happen? I think 247 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.480 the reason Rodney, why you're hearing this from me today 248 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:15.799 and why my fans are are are riding like so 249 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.799 hard for Luca today, right is like I mean, was 250 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:19.840 how vulnerable he was? 251 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:20.919 Right? 252 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.279 Like, That's what it is is that you like, it's 253 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.200 from a it's you know, we saw the We saw 254 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:29.639 the hug Lebron James gave him as he walked up 255 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.440 the court. We saw his lip quiver as he looked 256 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.840 at his like, you know, professional basketball life sort of 257 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:38.799 you know, be condensed into a two minute package, you 258 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:40.759 know what I mean. And then like not only did 259 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.840 he do all of that stuff, and you know, particularly 260 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.720 the emotional sort of toll of like you know, being 261 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:52.399 there and you know, like going through what was obviously 262 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:54.519 like a very emotional thing for him at a place 263 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.039 that he didn't want to leave, right, He didn't want 264 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:00.159 He didn't ask for this, which is unique in the 265 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.000 NBA when it comes to star trades. Right, it almost 266 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.879 never happens this way, you know, to then not only 267 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.519 do that, but then to go play the way that 268 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.720 he played, particularly right away in the first quarter. It 269 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.200 is sort of the quote unquote like Luca Magic. And 270 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.120 I think I think Laker fans like while like you know, 271 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:25.600 understanding that you don't hang banners for special nights in Dallas, 272 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.399 you know, in early April, and that there are bigger goals. 273 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:36.279 I think people should feel comfortable plenty, comfortable celebrating what 274 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.559 was like a special game, like a really special moment, 275 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.799 particularly in a franchise by the way that is like 276 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.759 full of these types of moments and these types of games, right, 277 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.200 and and is comfortable linizing them like that. It can 278 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:53.080 be both. It's not a title, right, it's not a title. 279 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.639 But you know, like nobody want a title the you know, 280 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.559 the night that Kobe outscored the Mavericks figure it right 281 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.879 in Dallas, Like nobody want to tell that the game 282 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:07.759 people talk about like you know that that's a special No, No, let's. 283 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.879 Not put I know, I know, and and I may 284 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.120 get killed for this, but let's not let's not put 285 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.200 it up there. Look, Celtic City just came out right, 286 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:17.799 we just watch I don't know if you watch it. 287 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.039 I watched it. I'm not a Celtic fan. I hate 288 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.639 the Celtics. I'm a Laker guy. You know, the first 289 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:28.960 time that the Lakers beat the Celtics in the finals, 290 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:36.559 after they chronicled Jerry West, you know, you know all 291 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:38.759 of that, all of those things, you know all of 292 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:41.559 those things, and then finally, you know, magic with the 293 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.080 hook shot. Winning and beating them in Boston Garden was 294 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:49.039 a big deal. And I just heard some people, you know, 295 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.440 equating it like, oh my god, this is this is 296 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.320 on the on that line. No it's not. 297 00:15:53.720 --> 00:16:00.159 It's champs. But I mean, I think though, and I 298 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:04.200 think this is like a larger sort of I don't 299 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.519 want to say, and Rodney at like, you know, I've 300 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:09.039 got a lot of love for you, Ronny, So if 301 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:15.039 the fields pointed at you, I apologize, Like I refuse 302 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.039 to believe that there are just seventeen good moments in 303 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.519 Lakers history, like more than that, you know what I mean. 304 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.279 And I think that as fans. I think that as 305 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.480 fans sometimes when it comes to basketball, like in particular, 306 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:32.799 in our conversations about basketball, we're way too binary when 307 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:36.080 it comes to championship or not championship. That the amount 308 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:41.639 of uncontrollables seriously that go into winning a championship. Luck 309 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.879 flat out luck. Like like you you talk to people 310 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.360 around the NBA, you talk to coaches, you talked to players, 311 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.720 people who have won the title, stuff like that, Like 312 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.480 luck is always a part of it. And if you don't, 313 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:58.480 if you don't, like you know, own that and like 314 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:00.639 sort of understand that at the end of the day, 315 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.919 Like there is like an element of this that's just 316 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.079 like you know, like either your role snake eys or 317 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:09.039 a seven, Like it's kind of out of your control. 318 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:11.880 So you just I think you have to make the 319 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:16.359 most and enjoy when the game gives you an opportunity 320 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:19.839 to celebrate it. And like, I just don't know what 321 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.680 else you could have wanted out of that game, Like 322 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:25.799 I wrote this, like everybody there got what they wanted, 323 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:28.640 except maybe for Nico Harrison, you know what I mean. 324 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.519 Like like like the fans got the show they wanted 325 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:36.599 from Luka Doncrich, you know, like the the Lakers got 326 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.599 the win. You know, the people in the crowd got 327 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.400 to celebrate a player that they felt like a really 328 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.599 really deep connection with and like, yeah, Laker fans should 329 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:47.400 be excited that they're the ones who get to keep them, 330 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.480 Like they should be excited about that, like it was 331 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:53.599 an exciting thing. Now if he goes zero for twenty 332 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:58.440 in the playoffs or you know, like stinks, like those 333 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:00.880 two things can both be true. He could have provided 334 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.319 this incredible moment and then also stunk in the playoffs 335 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.759 and and have to assess that. And if you stink enough, 336 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.279 you know that the shine comes off the great moments. 337 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:11.559 But but I think you know this early into his 338 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.000 is ten years a Laker, like you know, put putting 339 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:16.640 it out him that he needs to win a championship 340 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.000 in a year or two. You know, I maybe maybe 341 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:21.880 I just covered too many games this season, like. 342 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:24.519 Dance. 343 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:25.799 It's not stupid. 344 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:27.319 People. 345 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.759 I think it's bad practice, I know, but we do. 346 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.599 We do it though, drive too fast too on the freeway. 347 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:36.200 I shouldn't, I know, but we do it. 348 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:37.640 And why don't we do it with him? 349 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:42.640 I made myself for lunch today buttered noodles because it's delicious. 350 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.039 I shouldn't have done it. I should ate a vegetable. 351 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:49.119 I'm like a figure exactly. 352 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:50.119 No, and I should know better. But but like you 353 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:53.079 know that just because like we don't have to do 354 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.480 it that way. We don't have to. Look, he needs 355 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:00.240 he's not at all time, La, he's been for you. 356 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:05.839 You're missing the point, a man. To the point is 357 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.799 we do it for other people. We do it. We 358 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:13.640 did it for Lebron when he first came here. We 359 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:15.400 did it. He's got to win us a title and 360 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.799 to Rodney and the clock ticking age age, no, it's 361 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:26.359 who he is, Lebron, right, we got to do it. 362 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.119 And then when he did it in the bubble, people 363 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:30.960 discredited it because. 364 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:35.319 It was the bubble. Those are crazy, right, so so, 365 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:37.839 but we did it for him. 366 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.839 We did it. We did it for him when he 367 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:45.799 went the Miami. We did it for I mean, are 368 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:49.119 we not doing it for for him? Now? Why are 369 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.039 we not talking about Okay, when's that title coming? 370 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:56.240 What happened twelve hours ago? 371 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:58.319 We didn't do that for other people? Though, it is 372 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.440 my point, we should I get. 373 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:03.920 My point is we should, Dan, We. 374 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:08.160 We should respect everybody's religion and culture and everything. But 375 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.519 we don't. Okay, you. 376 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:15.160 Of course, Okay, so. 377 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:17.079 Let's not let's not be. 378 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.440 I think I think specifically like here, I do think, Okay, 379 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.839 there is a belief, there is a belief that this 380 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.079 Lakers team is good enough, okay, and I believe that 381 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:32.079 and that and and like we'll see what happens. I 382 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.319 think if this team is not good enough, okay, and 383 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:38.240 for some reason it doesn't work on the playoffs, this 384 00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:42.519 is going to be an incredibly critical offseason, right as 385 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.920 they try to put together, like the most their first 386 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.119 real crack at like a thoughtful way of building a 387 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.920 Lukadacic team, right because they haven't done that yet, Like 388 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:53.920 this is still all kind of being held together by 389 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.400 scotch tape to a degree, right, Like this wasn't the plan. 390 00:20:57.920 --> 00:20:59.839 It came to them. They've made it work with what 391 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.480 they've had. This summer, they will have an opportunity to 392 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:04.799 like actually like build the house that they want to 393 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:08.079 build around Lukudancic. Okay, whether that's one summer or two 394 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:12.079 summers to do it, that's that's when the real work happens. 395 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:16.240 I just like, and look, he should be held by 396 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.480 high standards. He's going to make sixty million dollars, you know, 397 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:23.680 like seventy million dollars. That comes with responsibility. He needs 398 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.359 to be available, he needs to be trying on defense. 399 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:28.960 He needs to look like he's in shape like that 400 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:31.319 stuff all is going to fall on his lap and 401 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:36.640