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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to episode seventeen. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and I'm Austin and this is a Strange Thing podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Very strange, all right, Austin. So we're back for another

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<v Speaker 1>discussion on our favorite topic, at least for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what rock, Strange rock, strange rock rock.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at me, weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just you're just you're not going to participate. You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna just watch me talk.

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<v Speaker 1>No, letting you talk. I'm not going to interrupt.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, well let's let's just we should just do

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<v Speaker 3>an overview of the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>So Episode one of Strange Rocks was about what let's hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Your tait a new hope, A new hope, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a rocky place. Episode one was about our

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Melba.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for map Rock, which was our kickoff. And map

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<v Speaker 3>Rock if you are just joining us and haven't heard

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<v Speaker 3>the first episode, or if you have joined us but forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless you geez.

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<v Speaker 3>Map Rock is a large rock about what about thirty

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<v Speaker 3>miles away from here in Meridian, Idoh, where our studio is,

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<v Speaker 3>and on that rock is a giant petroglyph, a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of rock art, or they call it scratch art. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>rock scratch and but these are unique because they have

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<v Speaker 3>supposedly been around for a long long time. The estimates

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<v Speaker 3>are up to fourteen thousand years. But it is a map.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supposedly a map.

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<v Speaker 3>It is estimated and estimated and pontificated that it is

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<v Speaker 3>a map. Wow, And it's a map pontificatedly the Snake

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<v Speaker 3>River Plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If it is a map and it's debatable, then it

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<v Speaker 3>is the oldest map known map in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a very hard piece of cartography. It's rock hard,

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<v Speaker 3>rock card cartography.

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<v Speaker 2>So we started.

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<v Speaker 3>Off talking about that because that was a weird thing

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<v Speaker 3>that was so close to us, and it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>And we hopped into the van.

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<v Speaker 3>It was our first drive in the IDV Investigation Destination

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<v Speaker 3>Vehicle and we just got it. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a really old box van that I found. It's got

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifteen thousand miles on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's a Chevy Room Forever boat type.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, alf motor. But anyway, we drove all the way

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<v Speaker 3>down there and it didn't blow up, and we just

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't put anything in the back really except for

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<v Speaker 3>some camera equipment, and we we we went to the

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<v Speaker 3>rock and looked at it, took some pictures, and we

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<v Speaker 3>went and had an altercation with a rattlesnake, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we packed up and went home and we did our

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<v Speaker 3>podcast on that, and then we talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about other locations close by that also has a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of petroglyphs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>We speculated hard.

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<v Speaker 2>We did. We did some hard speculation.

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<v Speaker 3>We got into the weeds a little bit on iconography

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<v Speaker 3>and rock art and that maybe they're not just rock art,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they're actually a very complex idiogram centric kind of emoji. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>emoji and icon So it was basically a communication system

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't use like alpha numeric kind of symbols, and

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't word based, and it was something that was

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<v Speaker 3>what they called a language of the mind, which meant

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<v Speaker 3>that it just bypassed the need to have spoken or

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<v Speaker 3>written language. You didn't have to read it and then

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<v Speaker 3>interpret it into a word and then have that word

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<v Speaker 3>process the meaning it. It was just a meaning. When

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<v Speaker 3>you see these things, they are just meaning. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty interesting. We talked a little bit about martineau

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<v Speaker 3>lvaugh or Levan, I'm not sure which way you pronounce it,

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<v Speaker 3>and how he had a unique life and a unique

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<v Speaker 3>kind of position where he was able to possibly find

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<v Speaker 3>a very scientific method for interpreting the iconic structures of petroglyphs.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this episode we thought we'd get in a

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<v Speaker 3>little more in the weeds about what petro cliffs are.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those of you that haven't seen him, all

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do is look up petroglyphs and you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get a butt load of these things. One thing

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<v Speaker 3>kind of unique about him is that they share lot

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<v Speaker 3>of common imagery. And it doesn't matter if it's North America,

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<v Speaker 3>South Amdical North America, South America, up in Canada, Peru,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, pennsyl Tucky way down south, or if

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the Middle East, or if you're in Egypt,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you're in Australia Boswana.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>These things are the same. The symbols that you see

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<v Speaker 3>are very much the same. And not only that, we

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<v Speaker 3>talked a little bit about that they are contemporary, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like things were happening here two thousand years

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<v Speaker 3>after it happened in Egypt. These things were simultaneous. They

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<v Speaker 3>were going on in different continents at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's very interesting too, because a lot of these

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<v Speaker 3>have very strong similarities.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody's kind of getting the same yeah, seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing and recording similar things at the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, right, And what's really weird about that. That kind

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<v Speaker 3>of suggests that they have the same genesis, that they

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<v Speaker 3>have the same starting point, that they shared a common ancestry,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, is what you'd say. And that's a mind

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<v Speaker 3>blower because we're talking about it's not like the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a one continent world called Pangaea where everybody was all

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<v Speaker 3>together and all of a sudden everything split apart and

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<v Speaker 3>then there were people, you know, one hundred years later

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<v Speaker 3>after they split apart, that we're doing the same things

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<v Speaker 3>because they had the same technology in the same ancestry.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, so you have these people's doing these similar

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<v Speaker 3>things in different locations across the world. So, right, there

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<v Speaker 3>is a strange thing that you could go down some

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<v Speaker 3>very weird rabbit holes on and I think we should

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<v Speaker 3>venture there just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should test the waters in the rabbit hole?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what why is there water in the rabbit hole?

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<v Speaker 2>You had to go.

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<v Speaker 3>To the bad Yeah? Why are they happening at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time? I mean, you try to come up with

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<v Speaker 3>a theory something happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the natural progression of humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>You see. That could be it too, like oh, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Stubbed my toe. I'm gonna put something near because I

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<v Speaker 1>keep my stubbing my toe here. Yeah, and then other

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<v Speaker 1>people come over and they're like, man, why is that

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<v Speaker 1>thing there? And he's like, oh, I'm tired of explaining it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll like show a foot hitting that thing and everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I went with a weird example, but I think you

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<v Speaker 1>understand that it's it's just like a natural progression to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like make up a symbol for something.

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<v Speaker 3>For the environment that you live in, and how to communicate.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everybody does it kind of naturally. Even my kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like he wants something, he reades for it. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you know he wants something because he's reaching. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>similar kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't have a written language, like some

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of alpha numeric kind of language, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>write it down like in language that people can read,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they spoke a different language, it wouldn't make

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<v Speaker 3>any sense to him anyway. So if you have an

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<v Speaker 3>icon icon, if you have an iconographic system, then you

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<v Speaker 3>can communicate across language barriers. So yeah, so maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>develop those things simultaneously because it was a way that

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<v Speaker 3>they could communicate and humans are smart, so they just

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<v Speaker 3>naturally did it. Maybe maybe, So another possibility. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you look in like the Biblical narratives you have in

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<v Speaker 3>the time of a Peleg where it says that the

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<v Speaker 3>languages the continent split, and then you also have the

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<v Speaker 3>Tower of Babel where prior to the Tower of Babbel

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<v Speaker 3>everybody supposedly spoke the same language and then they were

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<v Speaker 3>dispersed and everybody spoke different languages right in that narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe you had that kind of scattering system at

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<v Speaker 3>some point in time. So even though they could not

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<v Speaker 3>speak the same language, they could still use iconographic methods

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<v Speaker 3>and body language or sign language to communicate. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>was their workaround, right, could be I don't know, so,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're just guestimating here, but it's fun. So

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<v Speaker 3>you could get really creepy here. You could say UFOs

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<v Speaker 3>dragons in every major culture. You have these legends and

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<v Speaker 3>mythologies about visitors from a different world or outer space

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<v Speaker 3>who come down as gods and they interact with humanity,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when they interact with humanity they give them

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<v Speaker 3>special knowledge and abilities. And then you also have these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of I don't know what we call gods that

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<v Speaker 3>came down and hung out with humans. They also, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the legends and mysticisms, get excited when

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<v Speaker 3>they see human women and they think of bow wow,

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<v Speaker 3>check of bow wow, and they take as many of

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<v Speaker 3>them as they want, and they pro create and they

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<v Speaker 3>have these hybrid offspring.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So these legends are all over the place. They're in

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<v Speaker 3>Native American mythologies, they're in South American mythologies, they're in

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<v Speaker 3>Middle Eastern mythologies, they're everywhere Asian mythologies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in there, you can find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, maybe all of this stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of tied together. Maybe this outflux of this iconic

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<v Speaker 3>nonverbal language of the mind is a remnant of these

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<v Speaker 3>interactions with beans from a different dimension or outer space

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever that came here gave us that also, and

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<v Speaker 3>also they they gave us like a way to communicate

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe they didn't have before. Now this is like

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<v Speaker 3>totally out there weird, weird stuff, but hey, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a strange thing, strange thing, so we're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit about the potential of strange things and anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's creepy deal. Okay, Now, let's pull out of

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<v Speaker 3>the rabbit hole, let's ascend, let's rise ethereally towards the

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<v Speaker 3>heavens and plant our feet on solid ground, or maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a simulation of solid ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Which pillar are you gonna swallow? Red pill or blue pill? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So now we got all of these rocks all over

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<v Speaker 3>the world that have rock, scratch or art on them,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're not talking about pictographs because that's a different thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when they paint on rocks. Austin, you had a

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<v Speaker 3>hard time.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you did? Last time?

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<v Speaker 3>You had a didn't heck of a hard time, harder

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<v Speaker 3>than stone, that's how hard of the time you had

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<v Speaker 3>with this. But pictographs are painted on rocks, or rather things.

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<v Speaker 3>Petroglyphs are chiseled or scratched rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Pictograph you add material, petroglyph you take away material. That

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<v Speaker 1>was what I said, and that's pretty much hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 2>Picked a petra.

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<v Speaker 3>Pricks, picked a peck of pickled rocks. Yeah, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>these rocks all over the planet that have been chiseled

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<v Speaker 3>on or scratched on, and lo and behold, guess what.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of them have the same or similar kinds

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<v Speaker 3>Some of those We're gonna talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>To me that are shared across the contents.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, but before we get there, do we want

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<v Speaker 3>to tell them what we did?

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<v Speaker 2>What did we do this last weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>We tried to find some rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we found a lot of rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>We just found one and it scratched my elbow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you didn't find anywhere with petroglyphs on it. Austin

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<v Speaker 3>just pulled up his shirts and showed me this gigantuan

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<v Speaker 2>The other parts like wow, white.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't showing you it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Contrast between the dark purple well and the light white leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Why and how did you get that bruise, Austin? Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be a good segue.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we went out into the desert on what to

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<v Speaker 1>a place called Initial Point in initially that's where we started.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a bruise.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice anyway, We went to Initial Point in the.

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<v Speaker 3>IDV Investigation Destination vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>And inside the IDV were two I D mvs no

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<v Speaker 1>Investigation Destination mini vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that kind of works.

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<v Speaker 1>Motor vehicles.

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<v Speaker 3>We rolled the motorcycles and in the desert we got

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>We strapped him down, We took him out into the desert,

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<v Speaker 3>which was about We drove about what twenty five miles

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<v Speaker 3>out there? Yeah, and then we found a nice.

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<v Speaker 3>And we unloaded the bikes and we went for long,

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<v Speaker 3>probably about thirty five miles. It's fun and Austin crashed once,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But all I know is that I was staying back

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit because I let you go ahead, and

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<v Speaker 3>you went around the corner. I saw a big puffet

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<v Speaker 3>dust and you're standing up with your arms in They're like, oh, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>really hard to pick that thing up on a steep.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill with the rut right there. It was above me.

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<v Speaker 3>the oil is kind of dripping a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't fall over, and I had to walk up to

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<v Speaker 3>him and help him lift it because there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>on that incline that you could have got it up

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<v Speaker 3>and held it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have done it. It's actually not that I

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we did pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny way going. Dad's motorcycles like this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>more dirt bikey looking thing, and it's like when he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then mine's like.

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<v Speaker 3>is more sound like the Jetsons, something like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you have two cylinders. I have one, right, I just

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<v Speaker 3>have one big cylinder. You have two small cylinders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're you're cylinder's bigger than my two combined.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she said. But I can't believe I said that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had a great titles going out and rode

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<v Speaker 2>It was very hot, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like squeaking and bult and he's behind the weird

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<v Speaker 3>body is talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Something's going on. Yeah, but we had fun. See you're

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<v Speaker 2>a little budget. We are not. You're talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have any illusions that we have money

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<v Speaker 3>and are buying like really nice equipment, na, we're buying

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<v Speaker 3>that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>The cheapest best.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the cheapest best.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know we're semi mechanical and creative in how

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<v Speaker 3>we maintain things or create things, so that helps.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't have much money.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why when you look at the pictures and

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of chuckle, because we're kind of like hickesh hi. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're hickety yickity. Hey, that's the way we are, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we rolled. Maybe someday, if we get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of listeners because you share us with lots of people,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we can make some money off this and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we'll buy some really good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you guys want to put us in some

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<v Speaker 1>GS twelve fifties or some yeah and with or Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 3>I said the wrong, Yeah, the wrong German motor vehicle company.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys want to give us the prototype for

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<v Speaker 1>a BMW van, that's cool too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we'll try it out for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we better get back to our topic. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>had to just throw that out there. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>start down the trail of weirdness tonight a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about that there are common symbols on

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<v Speaker 3>petroglyphs about the world, so I thought it'd be fun

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<v Speaker 3>just to go over just a few of them, not many,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to get kind of weirder as we

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<v Speaker 3>go along. So let's just start out with the common

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<v Speaker 3>one that's almost on all of these petroglyphs, which are animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're usually like animals that are hunted or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>ridden or you know that people hold as sacred, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>those kinds of things. So you'll see birds, You'll see

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<v Speaker 3>lots of like stock and yeah that they hunt and

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<v Speaker 3>eat for protein, deer and antelope and that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you'll see horses, You'll see dogs, nice, You'll

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<v Speaker 3>see all kinds of stuff like that. So there's like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of animals.

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<v Speaker 2>Bears. I think there are bears.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever seen that movie Brother Bear.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I know there are bears because there are

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<v Speaker 3>bear tribes and well they're spirit animals basically, So a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times you'll see these things, these creatures that

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<v Speaker 3>aren't quite real creatures. They'll have extra things like wings

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<v Speaker 3>or and those are like spirit animals or spirit guides

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe are associated with like the medicine man of

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<v Speaker 3>the tribe or the shaman or whatever. So another thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you'll find on these are like different kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>pic or I almost said pictograss scratch art that look

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<v Speaker 3>like like a weird kind of boogeyman. And those are

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<v Speaker 3>usually representations for the to some man or the shaman

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever the tribe. And so they do all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things. They ask for, you know, rain, they ask

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<v Speaker 3>for help in hunting. You know, it's kind of like praying.

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<v Speaker 3>And so those guys are there a lot on the

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<v Speaker 3>pictograph on thelyphs, on the petroglyphs.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time we mess up that word take a drink, Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We could do that for our drinking game for those

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<v Speaker 3>of you this episode. Yeah, for this episode only. If

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<v Speaker 3>we mix up Picta and Petro, you can have a

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<v Speaker 3>free beer drink. But there you go from us, not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily just take a drink yea of whatever you're drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>What the like? Well, the guys on the stream thing

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that we could have it for free because they

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<v Speaker 1>messed up a sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well we should probably you know, while we're

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<v Speaker 3>here talking about the drinking game is so our drinking

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<v Speaker 3>game is very simple. If we say but anyway, if

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<v Speaker 3>we if you hear the dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Bark, if you hear the word, yeah, we haven't used

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<v Speaker 2>that word.

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<v Speaker 1>Been holding out. I'm waiting for somebody to.

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<v Speaker 3>We really haven't had anything nefarious on these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet to talk about, but we will. We're getting there, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>If you hear those words, then you get to take

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<v Speaker 3>a drink. But also, while we're doing the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If he says, picked a peppers. Yeah, yeah, we make

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<v Speaker 1>up make.

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<v Speaker 3>If we make up picked a petra, then you can

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<v Speaker 3>have a drink pervect Okay, So where were we talking

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<v Speaker 3>about before that?

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<v Speaker 1>There's like shaman people that are displayed in these rocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are oh you're asking me, going on, we're gonna you've

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<v Speaker 3>looked at some of these, you could probably. So you

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<v Speaker 3>see a lot of like lines almost like Roman numerals.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll see like a bunch of lines, or you'll see

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<v Speaker 3>things like dots that are in like a like in

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<v Speaker 3>a matrix kind of pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they'll just be like just like chisel dots. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but in a in a graph kind of structure. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what those mean. You guys can do

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<v Speaker 3>research and find those if you want. Another thing that

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see is a lot of humanoid figures. Makes sense, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And what's really strange about these and we'll go down

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<v Speaker 3>this road a little bit more in a bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of them have six fingers. WHOA, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>that makes people speculate a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the time that.

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<v Speaker 3>You see a six fingered representation on a petroglyph They

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<v Speaker 3>are large and they are strange.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a reason for that. Okay, tribalism, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really branch out to different tribes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, extra fingers because they know that's the British and

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<v Speaker 3>bad teeth. Sorry, nope, that's not true. Actually they did.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the royal families. They tried to like keep

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<v Speaker 3>it in the family.

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<v Speaker 1>They're lizards.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it didn't work out very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Their bad teeth is because they have reptiles.

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<v Speaker 3>They are right with the you know, the secret hand signals,

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<v Speaker 3>and if the light hits their eyes right, you can

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<v Speaker 3>see they're actually serpentine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, rabbit hole jumping out of the rabbit hole. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so there are a lot of these.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of strange humanoid figures. Sometimes there are maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>shaman or the medicine man, or sometimes there's something else.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of times I'll have six fingers. I

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<v Speaker 3>read some of the interpretation of that is that means

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<v Speaker 3>that there are many people. So if you see a

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<v Speaker 3>hand on a on a humanoid with six fingers, that

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<v Speaker 3>just means there were multiple people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the plural form of people is dude with six fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot easier to chisel one more finger than

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<v Speaker 3>to do a whole bunch of characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, you know.

431
00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's what they get. That's one of the

432
00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:52.599
<v Speaker 3>things that I read. But I like the idea that

433
00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's some more nefarious thing going on there.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Well played, did you drink if you want so?

435
00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you've got these weird things like that. Other

436
00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.000
<v Speaker 3>things you'll see are spirals. Now, spirals are debated all

437
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.920
<v Speaker 3>over the place. Some people say, oh, that means that

438
00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you're by water. Some people say, no, that's the sign

439
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:16.640
<v Speaker 3>of the cosmos and eternity and our role in a universe. Yeah,

440
00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:19.839
<v Speaker 3>the Milky Way and that. You know, back then, they

441
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 3>didn't have so many lights at night, so the sky

442
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.400
<v Speaker 3>was very vibrant and they would look up and they

443
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.640
<v Speaker 3>could see that everything rotated around the North Star. I

444
00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 3>guess if you were in this side of the hemisphere.

445
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So spirals are another thing you see everywhere.

446
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 3>You see a lot of circles with dots in the middle,

447
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.119
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes out of those kind of like a nipple

448
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:42.680
<v Speaker 3>or a target.

449
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you see a.

450
00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Lot of nipples chiseled into the rocks, or it could

451
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 3>be a wide eyeball, but it.

452
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Looks like that.

453
00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:51.720
<v Speaker 3>So it's a circle with a chisel dot in the middle,

454
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:57.519
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes they're by their selves, and sometimes there are

455
00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:00.680
<v Speaker 3>lines that come out of them at a certain an angle,

456
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 3>and most of those they believe are water glyphs.

457
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Water glyphs, Yeah.

458
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Water glyphs, so they point to water. So if you

459
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.200
<v Speaker 3>see a circle and it's got a dot in the

460
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:14.920
<v Speaker 3>middle and then it's got a straight line out of

461
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.839
<v Speaker 3>the center of the circle, that chances are that could

462
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<v Speaker 3>be a water glyph.

463
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:20.799
<v Speaker 1>And the line would point at water.

464
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, So it's basically saying, if you're here, go

465
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:26.799
<v Speaker 3>that way, yeah, water this way.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

467
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:30.240
<v Speaker 3>And the theory is with the circles and the dots

468
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.519
<v Speaker 3>that that means basically, you are here on that.

469
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Petroglyph, you are the circle.

470
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Do right.

471
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:40.200
<v Speaker 3>And so sometimes on some interpretations of the spirals they

472
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.240
<v Speaker 3>mean like if they go they go around and then

473
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 3>end going up, that means go up, and if it's

474
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:52.079
<v Speaker 3>the other way, then it means go down. So and

475
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:56.680
<v Speaker 3>especially the directional directional kind of a compass type thing

476
00:24:56.680 --> 00:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>that we have on our maps. Now it's that kind

477
00:24:59.039 --> 00:24:59.400
<v Speaker 3>of thing.

478
00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, does it start on the outside.

479
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:04.039
<v Speaker 2>It starts on the inside.

480
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>It starts on the inside and goes out.

481
00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 3>And if it starts on the outside and goes in,

482
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:14.119
<v Speaker 3>that means go down. But they both go clockwise. I know,

483
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 3>it's confusing.

484
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 1>I see what you mean.

485
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look up spirals and and that and you'll you

486
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:20.440
<v Speaker 3>can see that they can go.

487
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 1>To directions clockwise in or clockwise out is the same. Well, no,

488
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it's different.

489
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.440
<v Speaker 3>And then if you go out and then you get

490
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 3>to the end of the spiral and then you have

491
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.920
<v Speaker 3>a straight line or it curves back over, that could

492
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 3>mean that's the direction you go.

493
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>That's weird. And then you go like up that direction.

494
00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.319
<v Speaker 3>You go up, and then if it points, say to

495
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the north, then you go that way. And so spirals

496
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 3>are are found all over the place. Martineau Levon Levan

497
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 3>he is the one that kind of broke that code

498
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<v Speaker 3>of the spirals as a directional device for finding the

499
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.880
<v Speaker 3>information in petroc glyphs. Right, So basically a lot of

500
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 3>the petroc glyphs were like directional petroc glyphs that kind

501
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 3>of pointed you to the next Petroc glyph that had

502
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 3>more information, that pointed you to a giant panel that

503
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 3>had the information that they wanted you to see. Yeah,

504
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>so that's I mean spirals are there, and the dots

505
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 3>with the circle in the middle that that is also

506
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 3>usually the endpoint, So that means this is where the

507
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 3>treasure is. That's like dot marks the spot. Yep, pretty

508
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 3>much like that spot marks the spot. Yeah, So we

509
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.839
<v Speaker 3>had those a lot of these things. You'll see them.

510
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Another thing you see are a lot of parallel lines, right,

511
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 3>and they can be connected with the line at the top,

512
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 3>or they could have two lines at the top, or

513
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.680
<v Speaker 3>sometimes they're just free floating and those are usually interpreted

514
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 3>as many. So it could be like if there's a

515
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 3>figure of a human and then a bunch of those lines.

516
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:57.559
<v Speaker 1>There's like a bunch of people.

517
00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

518
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 3>And then if you see a long line with a

519
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 3>human kind of attached to it, that means this is

520
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.839
<v Speaker 3>the path. And it could be a path like of

521
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, direction, but it could also be a path

522
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>that you took to get to a place in your life,

523
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 3>so it could it doesn't have to mean a location geographically.

524
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 3>It could mean the situation that you're in in your life.

525
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.799
<v Speaker 3>So a person that made bad choices on a path

526
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 3>of bad choices that the line could mean bad choices interesting,

527
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.000
<v Speaker 3>and then there were symbols for death and that kind

528
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

529
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>So those right, So those are there.

530
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 3>You see like a lot of like weird patterns that

531
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 3>are it's almost like a specific design pattern, almost like

532
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 3>a floral pattern. It's kind of round, almost looks like flowers.

533
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>And those are found in Ireland. They're also found down

534
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 3>in Nevada, which the oldest known petroglyphs in North America,

535
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 3>well actually in America's is outside of a place called

536
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Winnemucka Lake. And I'll put some pictures up on our website,

537
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 3>and these things are supposed to be like really really

538
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>really old crazy And what's really crazy is they match

539
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 3>petrick glyphs that are in Ireland that are very very similar,

540
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 3>and it just kind of makes you, what in the world,

541
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 3>how do.

542
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 1>They get on the same page, right? How do they

543
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>get on the same rock yep?

544
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>And they're the same age.

545
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

546
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 3>So were these chiseled by ancient peoples or was there

547
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 3>some other kind of bean or creature that's chiseling on

548
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 3>these things? So like the legend out of Winnemucka Lake

549
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 3>and Nevada is that giants carved these things into the.

550
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Rocks, and something very similar is in Ireland. But we're

551
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>not there yet. I want to go there yet.

552
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 3>We're getting that, we're getting there. We're gonna get weird

553
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Irish giants. So we talked about dots and dots and

554
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 3>circles and then the linear lines and I don't know,

555
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 3>just get online, look up Petrick glyph. You're going to

556
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 3>see tons of these. A lot of them are like

557
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 3>especially down in like the southern Utah and Arizona and

558
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 3>New Mexico and the desert areas down there, and they

559
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>are probably a little bit younger than some of the

560
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.920
<v Speaker 3>other ones, but they have a lot more elaborate kinds

561
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 3>of depictions of animals and medicinemen and shamans and those

562
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of things, and they're really really well done. They

563
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>seem to be more sophisticated or more artistic something on

564
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 3>other rocks. And there's a lot the things you see

565
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 3>on the rocks are more recognizable as things where the

566
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 3>stuff that we see on map rock, I mean, there

567
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 3>are lots of lines and squiggles and circles and things

568
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>like that. Maybe some spirals and maybe some antelopen deer,

569
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 3>but the majority of it isn't anta open deer. Down

570
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>in southern Utah and New Mexico and Arizona, and in

571
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 3>California and Nevada, there are a lot more more slot

572
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 3>machine creatures.

573
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Are slot machines. Yes, they'll not be something to see you,

574
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>but there's slot machines ten thousand years old.

575
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 3>So that kind of gets us to, you know, we're

576
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 3>talking about these symbols that are maybe more recognizable, and

577
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 3>we were talking about that a lot of these are

578
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 3>common in the Americas and that a lot of them

579
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:27.240
<v Speaker 3>are common throughout the world. So I'm just going to

580
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 3>throw one out there that's very common all across the

581
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Americas and actually all over the world, and that is serpents,

582
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 3>snakes or winged serpents, winged serpents, dragons nightmare. Yes, Now,

583
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 3>these things are everywhere, and there's a lot of mythology

584
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 3>around them. So up until this point, a lot of

585
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 3>the things we're talking about aren't necessarily mythological. They're just

586
00:30:58.200 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 3>things that they see in everyday life.

587
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and directional and meaning right.

588
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, So we're turning the corner a little bit here.

589
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 3>When you start seeing things like dragons looking things or

590
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 3>serpents that have wings. Then you're turning into something that's mythological. Now,

591
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 3>the Native American people have tons of legends and mythologies

592
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>about creatures, so like things that are human.

593
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 1>But they're not humanoid being right, just for discussion, austin

594
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 1>anthropomorphie would be like making things human like Bambi. You're

595
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 1>giving human characteristics to an animal.

596
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 3>Right, So they're giving human characteristics to a creature.

597
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Of mythology, what could be.

598
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Up until now we're talking about real creatures and stuff

599
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>like that that are represented. So now we're talking about mythologies.

600
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 3>So the dragon, the serpent, the wings serpent, they're found

601
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of petroglyphs.

602
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Right throughout the world.

603
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 3>So let's just take wing serpent for a while. Okay,

604
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>wing serpent. Wing serpents are found in Native American petroglyphs

605
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 3>across the entire well, across the whole content, so you

606
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 3>can go to South America. Quetso Kuadal was a wing

607
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 3>serpent god basically.

608
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so something that's recognized as being.

609
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Worshiped, yes, worship and also from the skies. Okay, yeah,

610
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 3>so he comes from the.

611
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Skies and he's a god.

612
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:41.440
<v Speaker 3>And Quet's old couadals prenzels. So yeah, so you can

613
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 3>go down to South America and you have quets Old Kuadal.

614
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 3>So he's this deedy form, all right. So you can

615
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 3>go to Egypt and you have the wing serpents.

616
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>You can go to.

617
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Japan and you have the flying serpents, the winged serpents,

618
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>the bronze serpents. You can go into Judaism and you

619
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>can find stories about the brazen serpent that was raised

620
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 3>on the pole and the serpent that was in the

621
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Garden of Eden. You can go to China and you

622
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 3>have the wing serpent. You can go to Assyria and

623
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 3>have the wing serpent. So this is a depiction of.

624
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Door dragged dragged the bat. He's like a snake, m

625
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>yeah kind of.

626
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>But it's something in mythologies not just related to Native

627
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 3>American cultures, but across the world, and it always deals

628
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 3>with something that's either a demi god, something from outer space,

629
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 3>something from it that came from the skies, something that

630
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 3>was a extra terrestrial, a fallen angel like Satan in

631
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the Garden of Eden, the serpent form that he took,

632
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 3>the dragon that's always found, like a lot of Chinese

633
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of mythologies, and also in Japan, I mean in Thailand,

634
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 3>it's everywhere. I just find that a really big turning

635
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 3>point because they all share, all of these cultures share

636
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 3>the same genesis of this serpentine creature that's found everywhere, wing, snake, dragon,

637
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call it. Why the heck is

638
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 3>that that is something your little thing that you said

639
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 3>earlier about you know, maybe it's because the human race

640
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 3>is kind of at the same place at the same time.

641
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>So there, because of their brain, they just.

642
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>The same.

643
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>They've all this does not fit that example.

644
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Actually, there is there's something I heard of once, so

645
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I've got a theory too. I got one. So you've

646
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>heard of those sea snake like I don't know what

647
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 1>they're called. There's they're really long, skinny snakes.

648
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>That can jump off and kind of soar and fly.

649
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I don't know that'd be scary. There are

650
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>some snakes like they swim, they kind of they dwell

651
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.679
<v Speaker 1>under the surface. Yes, I heard once that it got

652
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>really hot and they actually, because they're full of water,

653
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>they actually evaporated floated and they were up in the sky.

654
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.519
<v Speaker 1>And then the next time it rained, the snakes actually fell.

655
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I made that up. I got nothing but that picture

656
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of the snake. Well he's like, well you know they were, like.

657
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 3>There are and this is a total tangency deal Rod.

658
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 3>But they have all kinds of stories of like things

659
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 3>getting picked up in water spouts or whatever and being

660
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:55.719
<v Speaker 3>and dropping like frogs, geysers, no fish and snakes and

661
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 3>frogs and stuff that somehow get picked up and moved

662
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 3>in a whirlwind or cyclone or whatever, I don't know,

663
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and then they fall and people are.

664
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Like, going on, welder toads just fell from the sky.

665
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Didn't know we were saying something about this place not

666
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 1>feeling odd.

667
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 2>That's documented. That's a real thing. It's a strange thing.

668
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we're we don't want to get

669
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 3>into it too deep, but we should do an episode

670
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 3>on reptail tiles or something.

671
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Airborne things.

672
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, you've seen lots of movies where like people fall

673
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 3>out of the sky for no reason. That many movies,

674
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, watch enough TV. Then obviously the corner we turned,

675
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna find more of these as we talk

676
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 3>more in the next episode, because we're gonna we're gonna

677
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 3>kind of hedge away from Peck to griffs.

678
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Everybody get to drink.

679
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

680
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.559
<v Speaker 1>I think I will pick the griff the animal.

681
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh ah, it was good.

682
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You just do with your mouth.

683
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm saying is is that we're gonna turn

684
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 3>a corner here and we might still call it Strange Rocks,

685
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:10.519
<v Speaker 3>but we might start talking more about the mythologies of

686
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 3>some of these cultures that used pets or glyphs as

687
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 3>a communication system, and it's gonna get really, really weird.

688
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it already got weird, well it did, but

689
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna get weirder because I mean, it's so ripe

690
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Native American legends and mythologies and stories. They are so interesting,

691
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and these same stories are everywhere throughout the world, maybe

692
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 3>with a different twist, but they have common characters. And

693
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 3>it's the common characters that kind of get me excited

694
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 3>because it's really strange. How come they share these same characters.

695
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>They all have the same characteristics.

696
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.400
<v Speaker 3>They're all like, yeah, like the or the wing snake

697
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 3>or the wing dragon. Okay, so that's just our launch

698
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 3>pad from all over the world, from all over the world.

699
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>They're everywhere in the world.

700
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 3>Now we're gonna find other ones too that are found

701
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 3>in Native American legends and mythologies, and we might use

702
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 3>that as our springboard. But we're going to talk about

703
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 3>these creatures in mythologies that are found on petroglyphs, by

704
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.760
<v Speaker 3>the way, and we're going to a specific destination on

705
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 3>this train, which is going to be fun and that

706
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 3>will launch our next series. The next series is going

707
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.599
<v Speaker 3>to be something that everybody talks about on all these

708
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of strange shows. It's a big topic. It's one

709
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 3>of the most fun topic. It will connect to ancient aliens.

710
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 3>But it's a more hairy situation.

711
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say.

712
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Let's just say that it leaves bigger prints than most

713
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 3>we're going to. That's where we're heading. But before we

714
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 3>get there, I think we need to do a little

715
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>more conversation about some of the mythologies that are found

716
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 3>in the petroglyphs and the cultures of the peoples that

717
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 3>created the petroglyphs. And so that's where we're gonna go.

718
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.079
<v Speaker 3>So I think we should just stop here.

719
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 1>At dragons, dragon flying snakes.

720
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 3>So the history of dragons, I mean, they've been around forever.

721
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 3>They're most famous in the Far East.

722
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Mythologies and legends.

723
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 1>What you see is like the what is that big parade? Yeah,

724
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 1>it's got like twelve people like operating this this costume

725
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 1>that opens its mouth.

726
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's flying.

727
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 3>And sometimes they're malevolent, sometimes they're just kind of more benign.

728
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they're good, good omen. But it just depends which

729
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 3>culture the dragon right into the dragon, Yeah exactly.

730
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I got a perfect song for you to play right now.

731
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was great. I love that song.

732
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 3>I just want this episode to turn the corner from hey,

733
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:09.840
<v Speaker 3>look at all these weird things on.

734
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Rocks cool to weird. Look at these.

735
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Weird things on the rocks, and then oh, look at

736
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 3>the weird things that people believe that chizseled these things

737
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 3>on the rocks.

738
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I should have had my drink on the rocks.

739
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I did have my drink.

740
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I got those little rocks that you freeze and they keep.

741
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Your whiskey cold, but they don't wanter it down.

742
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>See I like that. I like my whiskey a little

743
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>watered down.

744
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 1>You like your whiskey with water. Poverty flats for that

745
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>whiskey and water. You know, a lot of different cultures

746
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 1>have similar matching.

747
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Up symbols on the petroglyphs. Pecker glyphs. I don't know

748
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 2>what those are.

749
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

750
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It's it's something that I think was inscribed in the

751
00:40:58.440 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 3>walls of Sodom and Tomorrow.

752
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, there's all these different cultures that have the similar

753
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of lining up narrative and imagery, imagery, iconic.

754
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Pet petroglyphs, that's right. Yeah, so that they're kind of

755
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 3>all over it. They're very very common.

756
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.519
<v Speaker 1>They match kind of universally, right.

757
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 3>But on our next episode, we're going to turn the

758
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 3>corner kind of like what we did a little bit earlier.

759
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>We're going to turn the corner. We're going to go

760
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 3>full on weird strangeness into the mythologies of the Native

761
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 3>American people because that's what we have most access to you,

762
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 3>and we're going to compare those two similar mythologies found

763
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 3>in other cultures throughout the world, and there are a

764
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 3>bunch of them. So the question our listeners need to

765
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>ask themselves, how are these things being done at the

766
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 3>same time across so much much distance, But yet they

767
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.639
<v Speaker 3>shared the same themes in my mind, and maybe we'll

768
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.639
<v Speaker 3>use this to close it out, so they all share

769
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 3>the same story of the dragon or the flying serpent, whatever,

770
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 3>that was, whether that's the Garden of Eden's story or

771
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 3>if it's something different.

772
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>The first fish man that came out of the.

773
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Water, whatever it is, they share that oral history down

774
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 3>through time and that's the genesis of those stories and

775
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 3>these things showing up on petroglyphs and iconography thousands of

776
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 3>years later. So to me, that is really fascinating. It's

777
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 3>very strange, but it's very fascinating because it tells the

778
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 3>same story of some kind of something coming into this world,

779
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 3>into the lives of the people that lived at that

780
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 3>time and change something in a way that's so substantial

781
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>that it made an imprint that they had to sh

782
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 3>that with their progeny.

783
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Can we acknowledge that potentially there was just a wing snake, Yeah,

784
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and they were drawing it because they draw cats,

785
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>they draw alligators, they draw so you're saying the horn,

786
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 1>they draw elk, deer, sheep.

787
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 3>So you're saying there was a dragon or a dinosaur

788
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 3>that flew or something.

789
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 1>There could be a legitimate that they saw visually with

790
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>their eyes that they were able to communicate. If they're really, really,

791
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>really bad at drawing grasshoppers, you know what I mean,

792
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a long cylindrical type animal, it's got wings,

793
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 1>and there's you know, it could be something insignificant. I'm

794
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>always this kind of skeptic kind of person. Like I

795
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>thought on all these chiseling rocks kind of initially and

796
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>still sometimes is maybe people were just bored and had

797
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 1>some rocks that are harder than the other rock. Yet

798
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe they had some obsidian and they were like,

799
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I could maybe like kind of.

800
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Is obsidian that hard?

801
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like glass, It's pretty hard, but breaks,

802
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>it breaks, Yeah, it breaks, it breaks before it scratches. Yeah,

803
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that's correct.

804
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

805
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 3>All of these are hypotheses, right, so yeah, it could

806
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 3>be and and I'm not trying to lobby for one

807
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 3>over another. But to me, the fascinating part is the other.

808
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 1>It is more fun to pretend like there's giant flame.

809
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 3>It's much more strange. And what you see now people

810
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.000
<v Speaker 3>are dealing with now is not much different. The only

811
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.320
<v Speaker 3>thing is we haven't had some bean crash into our

812
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 3>world that is from a different place or a different

813
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 3>time or a different dimension, right and change us substantially.

814
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like those things haven't happened. There are lots of

815
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 3>rumors about that happening with abductions and all that kind

816
00:44:58.280 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

817
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>So and you snakes and abduction.

818
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean you're looking at a whole different

819
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of thing. So okay, so right on the horizon, Now,

820
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 3>we can we can mess with DNA. Why can't we

821
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:18.360
<v Speaker 3>make a chimera. In fact, we have we can. We

822
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 3>can take different DNA and create a different creature. We

823
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 3>could create a wing serpent. Maybe I've watched Jurassic Park.

824
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I know they take a toad, right, and they combine

825
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 3>it with DNA from a mosquito that sucked it out

826
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 3>of it.

827
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go, Dino DNA, right.

828
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.840
<v Speaker 3>So why maybe that's part of this. Maybe a lot

829
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 3>of it is technical. I mean, we make the mistake

830
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 3>of thinking that ancient civilizations had no technology. Maybe you know,

831
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 3>everybody wants to believe in aliens or some kind of

832
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 3>life out there in the universe or multi dimensionally, but

833
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 3>what so then we don't want to believe that it

834
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 3>can come in and like pass information or technology to

835
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a primi civilization of humans and change their DNA or

836
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 3>combine with their women. Maybe that whole women combination thing

837
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 3>had more to do with they manipulated DNA more than

838
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 3>they manipulated sex, or maybe it was a little bit

839
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 3>of both.

840
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

841
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 3>It's weird, it's fun, it's fascinating. I love to think

842
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 3>about it because it's really strange. And that's the name

843
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 3>of this podcast. That's why we do it. So next

844
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 3>week or next episode, next time, next time, which it

845
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 3>could be next week, maybe we'll get two in. Maybe

846
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 3>we'll get it two for I'd love to catch up

847
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.960
<v Speaker 3>for all the episodes we missed during the COVID thing,

848
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 3>which COVID is still going on.

849
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 2>So it's crazy.

850
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what about the COVID guy.

851
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Covid' is all weird.

852
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's an alien way to manipulate our DNA. COVID, Yeah,

853
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 3>make his take vaccinations. That actually is genetic manipulation of

854
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 3>our DNA to create us into some kind of chimeric hybrid.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it a.

856
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<v Speaker 3>No, it's just a word for a combination of I

857
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 3>think it's Greek. Actually, what's the because they had the griffin,

858
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<v Speaker 3>they had all those weird things of great mythology.

859
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<v Speaker 1>What's the Jewish kind of will a b oh that

860
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<v Speaker 1>protects the gollum, gollum.

861
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like it was so easy that you couldn't

862
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:34.599
<v Speaker 3>think of it because it was too simple. I'm got them.

863
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>You're really good at that.

864
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we're going to go down that path. It's

865
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 3>not even a rabbit hole because it's a it's a highway,

866
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 3>it's a super highway. There is so much information here.

867
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<v Speaker 3>This is not like some little, like little path of thought.

868
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 3>This is like something that's everywhere. So we're going to

869
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<v Speaker 3>talk about these mythologies and all the cultures that share

870
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, and the genesis of it is they

871
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 3>started with these simple little okay, maybe not simple. They

872
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.360
<v Speaker 3>started with these little rock scratches, maybe little kids out

873
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 3>chiseling away on a rock because their parents kicked him

874
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 3>out of the wigwam or the teepee. And then we

875
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.800
<v Speaker 3>find ourselves, now, what four thousand years later, six thousand

876
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 3>years later, two thousand years later, on thousand years later,

877
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 3>sitting in a studio talking about these strange things found

878
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<v Speaker 3>on rocks.

879
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Here's one for you, okay, okay, So angelic, lustful being

880
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>from outer space.

881
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 2>What's his name or her name? It's his name him? Okay.

882
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 1>The name is Chris Hemsworth. He lands.

883
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Here unearthed and he sees that the in the studio or.

884
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, not here in Native American. Oh oh,

885
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>back then at tribal area. So two thousand years ago,

886
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this single mother quite attractive and he's like, hey, I'm

887
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 1>a I'm an angel age being in the future. She's like, kids,

888
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>go scratch rocks. Chris Hemsworth is here. Oh yeah, And

889
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 1>then they turned that wigwam into a sweat huts.

890
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<v Speaker 3>So from then on, I mean, that's the origination of

891
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>the of the Nephelin, the these hybrid beans. I think

892
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 3>you know you can Oh my gosh. Yeah, we better

893
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 3>close this out. It's getting really strange in here. It

894
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 3>was fun talking about this stuff. Now we've kind of

895
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.519
<v Speaker 3>we've given our course away. People know the direction we're heading.

896
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 1>We're going freak.

897
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go freak.

898
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 3>So next time you guys have got to tune in

899
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 3>because we're gonna go full on freaky and talk about

900
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 3>some really crazy stuff across the planet and we're just

901
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna throw crap out there. I'm not gonna use much

902
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.440
<v Speaker 3>of a muzzle on this one. I'm just gonna let

903
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 3>it fly nice and we'll just have fun mule much. Yeah,

904
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:05.719
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, if you're playing our drinking game,

905
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.599
<v Speaker 3>be prepared to have a lot of libation, whatever that

906
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.320
<v Speaker 3>may be. And I want to do the disclaimer for

907
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 3>your lovely mother. If you have a problem with alcohol,

908
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 3>don't drink, don't drink cool and if you do drink,

909
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>drink responsibly.

910
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Drink smart.

911
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that simple. But anyway, be safe, don't drive,

912
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>don't drive.

913
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<v Speaker 3>On that happy note, we should tell people like us

914
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 3>on Facebook, share us, follow us, yeah, quit it, stop

915
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:41.480
<v Speaker 3>that bill Rod. Yeah, so share us with your friends.

916
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Most of all, what we want to do is get

917
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:44.599
<v Speaker 3>more and more listeners, and.

918
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 2>We are starting. It's growing.

919
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean we I think we just passed the our

920
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 3>three thousand, four hundred and seventy two downloads.

921
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

922
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.199
<v Speaker 3>So we got a badge from Podbeam, which is our

923
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 3>our provider. Yeah, kind of like saying, hey, we're somebody.

924
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 3>We want to get to five thousand. We said, I

925
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:04.480
<v Speaker 3>want to go to ten thousand, then we'll go to

926
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand, only go to five million. But now if

927
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:13.199
<v Speaker 3>we get to five million, if we get to fifty thousand,

928
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 3>then we could actually maybe potentially make a little money

929
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.320
<v Speaker 3>to actually buy nicer motorcycles and a better IDV.

930
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>That'd be cool, but that's not Maybe we could get

931
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 1>some sponsors. That way, we can interrupt our podcast with sponsors.

932
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because everybody loves when sponsors interrupt them.

933
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>But podcast, we won't be laying sponsors. I mean, we'll

934
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 1>follow the guidelines of whoever, but we'll make it.

935
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Fun and maybe we won't even do sponsors. If you

936
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 3>go to our website, a Strange Thing dot com, we

937
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:47.880
<v Speaker 3>now have a store and it's functional and you can

938
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 3>buy drinks.

939
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 1>No, you can't buy drinks. You can buy drinks the

940
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 1>time history. You can buy pine glasses with laser etched

941
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 1>A Strange Thing logos. We're using lasers from the futures.

942
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 3>And you can buy T shirts T shirts not from

943
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 3>which are really cool.

944
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I like those T shirts a lot.

945
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot.

946
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:11.880
<v Speaker 3>They look really sweet. I've actually had people come up

947
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:15.039
<v Speaker 3>and go, what's the logo for? Speaking of which Austin

948
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 3>is wearing a very cool.

949
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, speaking of we need to take a picture.

950
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<v Speaker 2>Put that on.

951
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a camera. It's that needs to be chiseled.

952
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<v Speaker 2>Into a rock.

953
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Can you describe it?

954
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I can.

955
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 3>It's got the body of a chicken, body of a cock,

956
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:33.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's got the head of a buffalo. Austin is

957
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 3>wearing a buffalo chicken T shirt.

958
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.599
<v Speaker 1>This is where buffalo chicken wings come from.

959
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, wings out.

960
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going for a real clean look.

961
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they are.

962
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 1>If the wings are out, it would be too silly.

963
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 2>It's a great design. Whoever did it? It says c DA.

964
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 1>And then so it looks like a compass, you know,

965
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the X and then top is north by them south.

966
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a very nice design. Whoever did it, congrats

967
00:52:59.840 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 2>to you.

968
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Morph would be Idaho. And then underneath that c d A,

969
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<v Speaker 1>let's not.

970
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Talk about south.

971
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't want to go south where you sure

972
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 3>it is? On that note, Austin, why don't you do

973
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:17.280
<v Speaker 3>the honors?

974
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Still? Join us next time for four some cold drinks

975
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and some stronger range conversation. Stranger stranger, more strange, more

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<v Speaker 1>strange conversation event
