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<v Speaker 1>Cal Poly is in session. Students swarm through campus and

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<v Speaker 1>file in and out of classes. You're thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>chapter reading they have tonight, their next class, their new dorm,

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<v Speaker 1>their senior project, how to get to the gym, what's

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<v Speaker 1>for dinner tonight? Where's in yours bathroom? Kate and I

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<v Speaker 1>know things can get a bit chaotic as a student

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<v Speaker 1>navigating the ins and outs of college life.

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<v Speaker 2>At cal Poly, we focus on learning by doing, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you don't know what to do well. Emma and

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<v Speaker 2>I are here to answer your who, what, when, where, why,

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<v Speaker 2>and how's here? On CP one oh one Learned by Listening,

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<v Speaker 2>presented by KCPR ninety one point three.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Mustang, I'm Emma Hughes, a third year English student, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kate Lopenski, a third year journalism student here at

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<v Speaker 2>cal Poly, and we're here to share our tell all

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<v Speaker 2>guide on how to survive and thrive at cal Poly

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<v Speaker 2>San Luis Obispo.

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<v Speaker 1>So grab a notebook. You may want to write this down.

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<v Speaker 2>In honor of Mental Health Awareness Month, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>provide you with all the resources you'll need to navigate

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<v Speaker 2>this essential topic at cal Poly.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll share a bit about our own mental health experiences

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<v Speaker 1>and discuss some resources available on campus. We also interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>the director of counseling services to provide you with the

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<v Speaker 1>best information. So before we get into the actual interview

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<v Speaker 1>with an expert, Kate, I was curious about how your

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<v Speaker 1>mental health journey has been since starting college.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it definitely took a lot of twists and

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<v Speaker 2>turns because as we all know, this is a really

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<v Speaker 2>challenging time in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, college is all about change, as we know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that creates a lot of uneasiness, especially for mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean share college is fun and all, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>learning how to be your own independent self and a

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<v Speaker 2>full on adult, which is crazy. So I went through

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life, as it turns out, with generalized anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>disorder and had no idea how life and she just

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<v Speaker 2>really hit her peek during college. Yes, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>came to a point where I was like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>I get to the point where I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Doc Martin stomping on my chest every

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<v Speaker 2>time I wake up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And have we reached that point? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>We have because I actually used Calpol mental health resources.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I did one on one counseling, which is so helpful

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, And we're gonna learn a bit more

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<v Speaker 2>about that from Andrea later on. So, Emma, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that you're more of a DIY girl when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to mental health, So tell me a bit about what

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<v Speaker 2>you've been doing to keep yourself healthy and happy right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I have definitely considered campus resources, but never

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<v Speaker 1>actually took the next step and getting involved with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually do a lot of journaling, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just really vent. It's like it's basically a diary, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be real, But I just vent through writing and of

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<v Speaker 1>course me being my little English made yourself just read

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<v Speaker 1>a good book for escapism and then write in my

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<v Speaker 1>journal about anything and everything. That's kind of been what

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<v Speaker 1>keeps me going because I just I get to see either, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm being a little over dramatic about this experience,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not that deep. It gives me time to

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<v Speaker 1>really reflect on my own experiences, but also gives me

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<v Speaker 1>clarity about no, like I am definitely feeling these things

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm allowed to feel these things. And yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of been my experience. Just I definitely take

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<v Speaker 1>time for myself to work on things and reflect for sure, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That just shows how unique your mental health approach can be,

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<v Speaker 2>because I really like talking it out with someone who

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<v Speaker 2>does not have any stake in my life whatsoever. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>that is extremely helpful to me. I've tried journaling before

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<v Speaker 2>and it just doesn't do anything for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahere is opposite for you, I mean, and again, like

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<v Speaker 1>Kate was saying, it's it's whatever works for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of what we'll talk about today is

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<v Speaker 1>the campus resources that are available to you, but just

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<v Speaker 1>know that those are not the only options, and we

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<v Speaker 1>also have some around just the slow community as well

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<v Speaker 1>as different ways that you can work individually.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that we've shared about ourselves, let's hear from Andrea Lawson,

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<v Speaker 2>the director of cal Poly Counseling Services, on how to

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<v Speaker 2>navigate the counseling center and all of the different resources

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<v Speaker 2>that they offer.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Andrew Lawson, I usually her pronouns, and

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<v Speaker 3>I am the director of Counseling Services here. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>licensed clinical social worker, and I've been in college mental

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<v Speaker 3>health since two thousand and six, and so it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a minute. So I've been at several college counseling centers

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<v Speaker 3>at the University of Michigan, the University of Wisconsin, and

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<v Speaker 3>out here at cal Poly. I've been here for almost

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<v Speaker 3>four years, so it's been great to be a part

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<v Speaker 3>of this campus community and to be able to provide

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<v Speaker 3>high quality, responsive mental health treatment and support for students

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing as well as when they're in crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to start our conversation with Andrea have a

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<v Speaker 1>little conversation about stigma, because, especially on a college campus

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of young adults, mental health is this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hush hush taboo topic, or at least it

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<v Speaker 1>has been for a while, and just kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>that means for a student going in and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>seek help.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. So we've definitely come a long way. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I feel like when someone says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in therapy, there's immediate, like, I don't know, flashing

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<v Speaker 2>lights in your head, like, oh, why is that person

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<v Speaker 2>choosing to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to kind of explain yourself. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there is definitely a stigma there, and so it was

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting to hear from Andrea what the trends were.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stigma is a really important topic to address when

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about mental health, and basically, stigma is people

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<v Speaker 3>really feeling maybe badly about mental health or worried that

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<v Speaker 3>people we'll think differently about them if they talk about

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<v Speaker 3>depression or anxiety or the other symptoms that they're experiencing.

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<v Speaker 3>And stigma can get in the way of people accessing

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<v Speaker 3>mental health care as well. And so one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that we actually know from our data is that

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<v Speaker 3>stigma is reducing, So overall, stigma is less and less

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<v Speaker 3>over time. That means that there's more and more acceptance

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<v Speaker 3>of talking about mental health or other concerns like that

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<v Speaker 3>in our campus culture in particular, and this is true

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<v Speaker 3>across all the campuses that I've been a part of,

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<v Speaker 3>and really I think in society in general right now,

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<v Speaker 3>there's much more acceptance of and discussion of anxiety or

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<v Speaker 3>depression or other mental health concerns, and so it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a really nice trajectory to see. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>there are some families or communities or individuals where that

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<v Speaker 3>stigma is still really high, where maybe your parents don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe in mental health, or maybe it's not really accepted

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<v Speaker 3>to go to therapy in your communities and So one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that we're doing is providing different types

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<v Speaker 3>of access to support here. So we do mental health

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<v Speaker 3>check ins at the Black Academic Excellent Center and at

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<v Speaker 3>the Multicultural Centers and some of the other cultural centers

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<v Speaker 3>on campus, so that students don't have to come to

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<v Speaker 3>therapy and have an actual clinical visit with us to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to get support and help. And then we're

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<v Speaker 3>also really trying to contextualize what we're doing in a

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<v Speaker 3>culturally responsive way for students across all identities, to say,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the way that you need support and how can

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<v Speaker 3>we be there for you in that way? And for

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<v Speaker 3>some folks it is coming in for therapy, and for

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<v Speaker 3>others it might be engaging with our app that's called

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<v Speaker 3>well Track Boost where they can do cognitive behavioral sort

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<v Speaker 3>of interventions on their own, or do a meditation through

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<v Speaker 3>that app, or maybe it's dropping into let's Talk, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a more informal conversation with a counselor that we

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<v Speaker 3>do virtually on Wednesdays and Thursdays. So we're really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say, like, yes, stigma is reducing and there's more

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to connect clinically with somebody, but there's also a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of ways to get support and help and be

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<v Speaker 3>able to talk more about mental health with your peers,

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<v Speaker 3>with your family, or with a therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>So, after we learned about the trends with mental health stigma,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked to Andrea about where to start if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to either seek on campus or off campus resources.

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<v Speaker 2>She just shared so much about what's offered in the

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<v Speaker 2>slow area.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we were also just especially curious about how

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<v Speaker 1>to start and what that looks like and where students

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<v Speaker 1>should go, and she kind of helped us navigate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are so many different components if you're seeking

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<v Speaker 2>help outside of counseling services at like on campus, such

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<v Speaker 2>as like copays and insurance and all of that. So

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<v Speaker 2>she really broke that down.

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<v Speaker 3>So on our website, we have a page that's dedicated

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<v Speaker 3>to referral information, So it talks about what to think

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<v Speaker 3>about when you're looking for a therapist, if you have

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<v Speaker 3>certain types of insurance, how to navigate those questions to

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<v Speaker 3>ask about coverage and copays and deductibles and all of that,

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<v Speaker 3>who's in network versus out of network, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of gives you some guidelines or a blueprint for

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about some of those things and asking some of

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<v Speaker 3>those questions, and then we have it linked to Psychology Today,

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<v Speaker 3>which has a therapist finder in it, and so you

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<v Speaker 3>can search within that for either the topic of what

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<v Speaker 3>you're concerned about, or the type of insurance that they take,

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<v Speaker 3>or identity factors of that provider, or lots of other aspects,

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<v Speaker 3>and so then it'll pull up for you providers that

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<v Speaker 3>fit your parameters, and then you can reach out to

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<v Speaker 3>those people to talk about what an intake looks like

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<v Speaker 3>or how to get connected with them. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>therapists in town will do a free consultation with you

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<v Speaker 3>for fifteen minutes to just get to know you a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit and see if it's a good fit or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But some of them will kind of assign you directly

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<v Speaker 3>to an intake and then they'll either charge your insurance

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<v Speaker 3>for it, or you can pay out of pocket for

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<v Speaker 3>it and then be reimbursed if you have insurance at

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<v Speaker 3>least in part, or you can pay out of pocket

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<v Speaker 3>for those counseling sessions. There's a lot of option in

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<v Speaker 3>the community, so there's a lot of different types of people,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of different contexts, and there's also some low

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<v Speaker 3>cost options as well, So if paying for therapy at

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<v Speaker 3>all is outside of what you're able to do, there

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<v Speaker 3>is on campus there's another clinic that's run out of

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<v Speaker 3>the master's program and so they have therapists and training

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<v Speaker 3>who are supervised by licensed providers who are providing services,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a sliding scale fee that goes, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe down to zero, so it can be very affordable

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<v Speaker 3>to go there, and they do that based on your

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<v Speaker 3>family income or what resources you have available to you,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they provide ongoing treatment there for a range

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<v Speaker 3>of concerns. And then there's also as a part of

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<v Speaker 3>Transitions Mental Health Association in town, they have a brief

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<v Speaker 3>therapy clinic that's available at no charge as well, so

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<v Speaker 3>they typically will see people for ten to twelve sessions,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a really cool array of student providers

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<v Speaker 3>as well as therapists that are licensed that are overseeing

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<v Speaker 3>their work. So there's a lot of option at a

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<v Speaker 1>If you are choosing to start your mental health experience

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<v Speaker 3>So we provide brief individual therapy as well as couple

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<v Speaker 3>And then that counselor will refer the student to individual

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<v Speaker 3>can have at least one service from us, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>So I've used these formal services that she talks about,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have really enjoyed my experience so far. That

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<v Speaker 2>like just a drop in opportunity. But I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>are so many more casual ways to partake in counseling

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. I was particularly curious about the option

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrea really breaks that down in a second here

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<v Speaker 1>for us, But that was just something that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know students even had available to them to just hop

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<v Speaker 2>And those let's talk drop ins are actually one on one,

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<v Speaker 2>so it is a private experience. They do have group

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<v Speaker 3>We also have more informal services or what we call

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<v Speaker 3>drop in services, and that's things like let's talk that

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<v Speaker 3>happen virtually. We have medication for mental health on Thursday

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<v Speaker 3>afternoons on the front lawn. We have an ADHD support

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<v Speaker 3>group that's a drop in style. On Friday afternoons, we

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<v Speaker 3>with students. So it's not like you go to see

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<v Speaker 3>the scary therapist, but you're going to see Shauna, or

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<v Speaker 3>So all these people are a part of the milieu

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<v Speaker 3>So this year it's mental health in You, so kind

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<v Speaker 3>of basically understanding what does mental health mean for me

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<v Speaker 2>Supported beyond scheduled appointments. They also have crisis in urgent

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<v Speaker 2>support services, so if you are facing something right in

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<v Speaker 3>And then the last way that we support students is

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<v Speaker 3>through our crisis and Urgent support services. So each day

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<v Speaker 3>from eight to five, students can come to Counseling Services,

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<v Speaker 3>which is here in Building twenty seven at the Health Center,

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<v Speaker 3>and they can say I'm in crisis, I need to

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<v Speaker 3>line that's available twenty four to seven, so if it's

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<v Speaker 3>two in the morning and you're having a panic attack,

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<v Speaker 3>you can call and talk with a clinician about what's

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<v Speaker 3>So that is available anytime that you need it, and

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<v Speaker 3>We really want to be there to support students regardless

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<v Speaker 1>If you are looking to schedule an appointment with Health

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<v Speaker 1>and Counseling Services, you are easily able to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>and ANGO will kind of explain that process for you

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<v Speaker 3>Works in general, Like I was saying, that first step

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<v Speaker 3>is to call us to schedule a brief screening appointment,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we will your our front desk folks will

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<v Speaker 3>talk with you about your availability, and typically we're able

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<v Speaker 3>you so you don't have to be here, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to show up in our space, and we really

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<v Speaker 3>want to understand your story, what your context is, so

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<v Speaker 3>that we can respond appropriately to that. Once you're referred

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<v Speaker 3>for individual therapy here, then you'll get to choose whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's in person or virtual. So right now we have

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<v Speaker 3>most of our therapists do hybrid schedules, partly because we

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<v Speaker 3>an office every day. Some days they're here on site

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<v Speaker 3>and some days they're virtual. And so as a student,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be asked whether which you and you prefer whether

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<v Speaker 3>in person or virtual, but you may need to be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit flexible on the modality. You know, in

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<v Speaker 3>case your provider calls in sick, they may be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do a virtual appointment rather than in person. Or

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<v Speaker 3>the same flexibility is available for you too, So if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a cold but you still want to meet

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<v Speaker 3>with your therapists, you can say, hey, can we meet

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<v Speaker 3>via zoom or phone instead and we can make that adjustment.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's one of the benefits of the last four

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<v Speaker 3>we've really grown those muscles and being able to provide

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<v Speaker 3>as effective as in person services.

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<v Speaker 2>How Polit, counseling services understands that it can be really

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<v Speaker 2>are so many people there that genuinely want to help you.

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<v Speaker 2>As Andrea emphasized throughout the interview, that was really really

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<v Speaker 2>much the staff cares for the students truly.

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<v Speaker 1>And she herself is very involved. She's actually the one

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<v Speaker 1>who reads the emails that are sent to health services,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you'll get to talk one on one with

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<v Speaker 1>Andrea potentially, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the absolute sweetest. Yes, So it makes life all

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<v Speaker 3>I think especially students now don't call anybody. Well you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't call or talk to anybody on the phone,

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<v Speaker 3>and so talking on the phone feels like maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>so that can feel even more difficult to get over

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<v Speaker 3>that hump. But I would say, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a team of people who are here and ready to

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<v Speaker 3>is when you can get scheduled or sounds like you

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<v Speaker 3>need to talk to somebody today, come on in. We've

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<v Speaker 3>them where they need to be. If calling just feels

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<v Speaker 3>like way too far out of your comfort zone, you

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<v Speaker 3>can also email us. So I'm the one who answers

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<v Speaker 3>the counseling atcoupoly dot eu email address, But sometimes just

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<v Speaker 3>having a little more information or making that initial contact

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<v Speaker 3>can really be helpful. One thing I'll just add is

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<v Speaker 3>that we have twenty two therapists on staff right now,

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<v Speaker 3>which is impressive. Yeah, thank you, And we've hired a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch in the last five years and so we've been

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<v Speaker 3>able to really expand our available availability and services. So

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<v Speaker 3>right now, like I said, you can get in for

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<v Speaker 3>that screening typically same day or next day, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we have intakes available within the same week right now

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<v Speaker 3>as well. So I think sometimes there is this sense

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<v Speaker 3>get in or that there's no space, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, right now, that's not true. So we

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<v Speaker 3>do have that availability and are here to support you,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're still going to help you get to that

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<v Speaker 1>So we kind of wanted to know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about the context of maybe why people are coming

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<v Speaker 1>to counseling services, what is most affecting us college students,

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<v Speaker 1>and how can we find the help that we need.

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<v Speaker 1>So Andrew actually shared quite a few important statistics with us,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about anxiety and depression. But it really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put into perspective what we as college students are facing.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty sixteen, twenty four percent of students responded that

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<v Speaker 3>they were moderate or severely depressed according to the PHQ,

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<v Speaker 3>which is one of the clinical measures of depression. In

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<v Speaker 3>four percent of students screened positive for depression and that

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<v Speaker 3>moderate to severe category. Then this fall it's actually dropped

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<v Speaker 3>down to thirty four percent, and so we're really glad

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<v Speaker 3>that trend. Right, So imagine back to where you were

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<v Speaker 3>and what context you had. Like here at cal Poly,

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<v Speaker 3>on campus. It was also when I started here, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was a very funny time to get to know

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<v Speaker 3>a new campus, a new community. But it's interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to look historically at that data and to

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<v Speaker 3>see both improvement but also recognize that a third of

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<v Speaker 3>our students are screening positive for depression, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>means that there's a lot of students who could benefit

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<v Speaker 3>from conversations about emotional well being and around connecting with

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<v Speaker 3>other people and maybe not feeling quite so alone in

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<v Speaker 3>those symptoms that they're experiencing and know that we are

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<v Speaker 3>here to support you in that. But also there's so

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<v Speaker 3>many people across campus that can also help invest in

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<v Speaker 3>your mental health. So one of the things we're really

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<v Speaker 3>focused on is a holistic approach to mental health, recognizing

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<v Speaker 3>that when you engage in the Safer Leadership training or

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<v Speaker 3>when you go to a student club or organization you

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<v Speaker 3>take on a leadership role there, that you're investing in

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<v Speaker 3>your mental health by engaging in those behaviors in the

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<v Speaker 3>same way that you might be if you're coming here

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<v Speaker 3>for therapy. And so we're not the only answer to

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<v Speaker 3>mental health or well being or things like that. There's

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<v Speaker 3>so many opportunities to support one another in that as students,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as to connect with programs and services and

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<v Speaker 3>trainings that are available to you here at cal Poly.

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<v Speaker 3>In the last few years, anxiety has actually taken over

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<v Speaker 3>depression as a more prevalent concern, and so in that

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<v Speaker 3>same study it was thirty four percent and twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>of students were screen positive for anxiety, and now that's

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<v Speaker 3>down to thirty two percent, so we'll take a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of improvement. But again, about a third of students

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<v Speaker 3>are experiencing anxiety, and so we hear that more often

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<v Speaker 3>as a reason for coming into services with us. We

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<v Speaker 3>also can look at national data trends around that, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just cal Poly students, but the Center for

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<v Speaker 3>Collegiate Mental Health Health does aggregate data for all students

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<v Speaker 3>across the country who are engaged in clinical services at

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<v Speaker 3>their counseling center like this, and they've seen that same

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<v Speaker 3>trend over time that anxiety has overtaken depression. However, since

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<v Speaker 3>the maybe two thousand and eight twenty ten when they

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<v Speaker 3>started collecting data, it's been a steady increase over time

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<v Speaker 3>in many of the symptoms, and finally we're actually seeing

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<v Speaker 3>a leveling off of depression and anxiety, so it's no

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<v Speaker 3>longer going up, but it's still very present. And this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ties back into what we were saying earlier

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<v Speaker 3>about stigma that because stigma is reducing, people feel more

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable maybe identifying with having depression or identifying other mental

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<v Speaker 3>health concerns and seeking out help for it. So the

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<v Speaker 3>increase in reporting and in utilization is not necessarily a

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<v Speaker 3>bad thing or an indicator of crisis. It's an indicator

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<v Speaker 3>that people are acknowledging what their experiences and reaching out

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<v Speaker 3>for help and support around that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are so grateful for this interview in this

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<v Speaker 2>time with Andrew because we really got to understand that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a pretty big team of therapists on campus

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<v Speaker 2>ready to help you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they are there for different ways of helping

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<v Speaker 1>you too, Like there are a ton of different services

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<v Speaker 1>that they provide. Again, there's group, there's individual, there's to

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<v Speaker 1>drop in, there's crisis, there's anything that you could ever

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<v Speaker 1>need for free here on campus, which is super super crucial,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for US college students.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you're already paying your health services payment in your dues,

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<v Speaker 2>so I mean, why not just.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it a try.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are actually psychiatric services on campus as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's really cool is if you're already seeing a

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<v Speaker 2>psychiatrist from home, you can have your medication sent to

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<v Speaker 2>the health center so you could pick it up there.

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<v Speaker 2>But then also if you are looking to start medication,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get in contact with a psychiatrist on campus,

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<v Speaker 2>usually through a therapist referral, but you can get started

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<v Speaker 2>on medication and pick it up either on campus or

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<v Speaker 2>in a pharmacy near you.

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<v Speaker 1>And beyond that, there is also some more casual opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>to promote wellness here on campus. For instance, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>many of you have seen the therapy dogs that go

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<v Speaker 1>to dexter or even goat yoga. Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>I can never get a spot and go yoa.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I never know it's happening until I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wow, I wish, I wish I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing goat yoga right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually really like the yoga at the rec center

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, like we're saying, like you're already paying

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<v Speaker 2>for it in your dues, so might as well just

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<v Speaker 2>take yoga classes that would cost hundreds of dollars if

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing it from an outside studio. Like we've

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<v Speaker 2>emphasized throughout this episode, there are so many unique opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>for pretty much everyone because everyone has their own way

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<v Speaker 2>of navigating their own mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and something that also is super super beneficial is

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<v Speaker 1>having a good cry every once in a while, like

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of it feels like such a detox to

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<v Speaker 1>just let it out, have your moment, you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>it all go, and then compose yourself and continue continue slaying. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend told me recently something that is gonna stick

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<v Speaker 2>with me forever. She was like, you have to flop

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<v Speaker 2>in order to slay, And I feel like shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to Bianca on that one. That just really suits you,

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that not that I'm saying your mental health is

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<v Speaker 1>a flop.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But you could have a flop era though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's totally fine. Why not have your flop er to

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<v Speaker 1>get to your sleigh era.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and counseling services is there to help you get there,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can also do it.

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<v Speaker 1>On your own as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever works for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's all the time we have for today. One

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<v Speaker 1>last piece of advice. It is always, always, always okay

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<v Speaker 1>to take a mental health day and focus on your

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<v Speaker 1>well being.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, we'll be back with more tips and tricks next

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<v Speaker 2>time on CP one on one Learn by listening. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find us on any preferred streaming platform for the

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<v Speaker 2>next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And to keep up to date with CP one on

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<v Speaker 2>Us out on kcpr dot org. Slash Podcast signing off,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kate Lopensky.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Emma Hughes. Thanks for keeping up with all

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<v Speaker 1>things cal poly.
