Speaker 1: What is going on Clipper Nation? Welcome you see three,
episode eleven of clips in Dip. I am Chuck Bakler
joined by follow Adam A. We'll Updike will be here
at some point. And today we have a special guest.
Carpal Tunnel is in the house. We are so happy
to have him. Longtime Clippers fan, Carl Tart. How are
you doing, buddy man?
Speaker 2: I am happy to be back. I can't believe it's
been this long. I'm happy to see Adam Ay. I
follow him? Uh and he don't.
Speaker 3: We're at where do you follow? At?
Speaker 4: Amen? Hey?
Speaker 3: Listen follow Adiam Ay?
Speaker 2: Listen man, Just know I follow Adam A. Okay, that's
all you need to know.
Speaker 4: Just know I follow it not too now that.
Speaker 1: We have a fun show today. I think we all
of us have dips, except for Carl, which is fine.
He's a guest.
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought you asked me if I had to dip,
like if I have to leave.
Speaker 1: No, I asked if.
Speaker 4: I thought we just had to explain it dip.
Speaker 1: No, you bring it up. You can. I'm eating mine
and then and then we rate them.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the best way to explain it
is right after a good taste of dip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not have to. Oh, I got hold on,
let me go, I got something for you.
Speaker 1: Rubbige around, rubbage around, we can vamp. Thank you to
everyone watching. If you're watching, you get to see Carl
get up out of his chair. If you're listening, you
only just heard that, But we thank you. However you're
consuming this pod. We're in the doldrums a bit right now,
aren't we. Aren't we out of them? There's not a
whole lot going on, but we scraunded up some stuff
to talk about today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's just enough. Those fries at the
bottom of the bag.
Speaker 1: That's exactly where we're at.
Speaker 3: Some stowaways. We found some stories that are of interest
to Clipper Nations that I think will make this podcast
something special.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the you're hanging out in the hey, yes,
this was one of the rules too, is that you
could do chewing tobacco.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Oh this is so great. This this is never this
is a healthy Yeah, what are you chewing?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 4: This is a smoky mountain herbal stuff.
Speaker 1: This ain't no real okay, as long as it's not
that pussy skull vikings or no, no, no, no, that
was no shade.
Speaker 4: Kings go to hell.
Speaker 3: Vikings they are, They've been there their entire existence. I
think they are the most cursed team in the history
of the sports, the most agonizing team. Well you look
at being so close but yet so far, the Vikings,
I think take the cake over Eddie.
Speaker 1: What did they lose four Super Bowls in a row?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: They lost like four and I don't know, a few
years with Franz Tarkentin.
Speaker 2: Now that's tough because this is it. I don't know
if we've ever talked about this.
Speaker 4: Chet.
Speaker 1: There's an NFL pot now for the next two minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know it's it's gonna come back to
the Clippers, because any sport. I want to know what
y'all think of this, because I was asked this question.
We support a team that has famously not made the finals.
What if we made the finals four years in a
row and lost all four years? Would y'all prefer that?
Would y'all prefer to be in the same place that
we're in now? Where they're the most used, overused joke
is the fact that we can't get.
Speaker 1: To the finals. Give me the four finals because I'll
tell you what, every single time, I'm thinking this is
the Yeah, like I'm taking the finals. Uh yeah, I'm
taking the finals just from the pure optimism I would have.
The fourth one would probably send me into some kind
of catatonic state after that whistle blows and we've lost
our fourth final in a row. But I would come
out of.
Speaker 4: That, yeah, knowing that we can make it there.
Speaker 3: The problem is, even with the Bills, it's one game
you lose. Here would be sixteen total losses over four
straight years. That is a lot of compounding pain. The
compounding interest of that pain, I mean that is Warren buffets.
Speaker 1: But the compounding interest of that hope when you get.
Speaker 3: To we're not gonna win one.
Speaker 1: No, but we don't know that going You know, in
this scenario, it's like you've been transported, like you're hitting
the head with a magic hammer and you go back
and you don't know that it's gonna turn out that way.
Speaker 3: That's a tough hypothetical. I just want them to win
one eventually. I don't like this scenario at all. I
think at the end it would make like.
Speaker 1: A third scenario Championships.
Speaker 3: It would make you a much more defeated fan in
the end, like Chuck said, I don't know where that
fourth one sends you. I don't know what place of
basketball oblivion that sends you to.
Speaker 1: Would you lose four in a row?
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think the Lakers lose four in
a row in the sixties, point Jerry West had lost eight, right,
they probably lost four in a row at some point.
There were eight teams back then. But still that's pain,
that is.
Speaker 2: But also that develops a stronger fan base because that's
what really, that's what really started it off for those.
Speaker 1: Guys the lot of the years. Yeah, they won most
of their championships. Would you put the Clippers? I mean,
since we're talking about it, would you put the Clippers?
Carl how would you view the Clippers in the most
Cursed Franchises list?
Speaker 2: I think we I think we're getting out of it.
You know, I went down to the into a domance
age D and.
Speaker 1: So I think we're good.
Speaker 4: I think we're getting out of that.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, I think we are only cursed
in the sense of I don't believe in the curse
anymore because we made it to the w c F.
Speaker 3: And I think there's not some new curse trying to
pop up. Then he lost Idle Boss Curse.
Speaker 2: I saved it. I put some ashvil Gandha in every seat.
I put some shi Legits, So everybody's gonna be hard
at all the game.
Speaker 1: Thing's gonna get that Bruno Bars concert was crazy because
that was the first go for that.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets a gets a Microsoft brand honey pack.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, I don't know. Did Steph Curry picked
the honey pack like he picked the popcorn flavor of
the arena. I'm not, I'm not entirely sure, but you're
not putting us You think we're out of the curse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not even claiming that. I'm not even claiming that
that's out of here.
Speaker 1: All right, curse is gone.
Speaker 3: What would it take for you to feel like they're
cursed again next season?
Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding. I don't would have to collapse.
Speaker 2: I literally think that if that happens, then I'm like,
all right, man, I'm back.
Speaker 1: We're cursed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no curse. The Red Sox overcame whatever was
for no particular reason. They just were better that year.
Same with the Chicago Cubs. If those teams can do it,
an they can do it.
Speaker 1: Things really want to ship. After the Cubs won that
World Series, you look at the timeline of events in
the world. They traded something for it Championship, a non
pandemic championship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will.
Speaker 2: Regular everybody outside championship. I will eat a woo hand bag.
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Oh man, Okay, So speaking into a dome,
the Into It Club is about to be a thing.
There is now. Thanks to a bill quietly passed in
the California Senate last night, an exclusive venue and Steve
Balmer's brand new Into It Dome in Englewood will be
able to be open until four am. AB three two
o six, introduced by Assembly member Team the mckinner who
seems like they party, authorizes alcoholic beverage sales to occur
between two am and four am upon the on sale
license permaces operated in the fully enclosed arena with a
seating capacity of at least eighteen thousand seats right there,
located in the city of Inglewood.
Speaker 3: We're there, aren't they at like seventeen nine hundred something.
Speaker 4: No, No, they don't have.
Speaker 1: The article said they're eighteen, So they must bounce up yeah.
I mean in this scenario, you're the only play Come
on and go down to go somewhere.
Speaker 4: And get some foe down chairs.
Speaker 2: Listen, the Forum Back in the day, Back in the
day when they were remodeling the Forum, they would have
the stands outside in the parking lot.
Speaker 4: Just go back, just go roll one of those across
the street.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be an incredible time four am in Inglewood.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some steel chairs left over from WrestleMania
so fine that we could go over there and get
and make it eighteen thousand.
Speaker 1: I mean it was clearly passed specifically just for into it.
Speaker 4: Man, let me tell you something. Must he's the man. Okay,
that dude is the man. This is gonna be fun.
This is gonna be something school like.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be telling a documentary in twenty years being
like Knights at the end to it, don you know.
Speaker 1: The classic club? Yeah, sit down, you go. I mean
everybody was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I saw Billy Crystal, I saw freaking Moonness, I saw
Paul Sheer, I saw Carl Tart, Ralph Lawler walked.
Speaker 1: In Dame's l Brooks stopped by for five minutes. Now,
the four am. This is so funny because I'm wondering
if they've already started promoting this in some way to
the people who can afford because I'm assuming it's not
everybody can be at the end to it, don't yeah,
slanging drinks until four am. It says it's kind of
a private club. I'm wondering if they've already been pitching
this to people like you, guys know what we're gonna
be having right like four am. There's gonna be some players.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's a bad game, Clippers talking. It's ugly. I'm
going down there.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some players in there for sure.
Speaker 3: My worries away.
Speaker 2: We do it live from the club, you know what
I mean? You hear the noise in the background. Yeah,
what else for station identification?
Speaker 1: The crowds were doing the same.
Speaker 3: Stave Harbor hours now anything goes up to ten.
Speaker 4: You listen to the Patriot Radio. It's one of those games,
but tonight it's the Patrol Radio.
Speaker 1: Let me say you and Clopers fan say, yeah, now,
if we could do a live from the from the
into it an exclusive venue inside that arena. Oh again,
we put this message out to anyone who was listening
after we talked about checking out the Lexus Lounge absolutely
insane seats. If you have an open seat, one of
us would love to join you to a game. If
you have an open guest list spot to the four
Am Into It Club, We're there. Genuinely anytime anywhere, any
of us on this podcast would go.
Speaker 3: What's that private club at Disneyland Club twenty one, three
thirty three, the Blue Bayo or something thirty three?
Speaker 1: Is that it really forty one? Yeah, that's that's so funny.
Speaker 2: I think he said, you're liable to find me in
downtown Disney Club thirty three, Club thirty three.
Speaker 1: You're thinking this might rival that.
Speaker 3: Adam four AM's four Am four am is. I don't
know at a place like that, the nicest readA in
the world.
Speaker 2: For that long we've been hitting that, we've been hitting
at retiring Blake's number.
Speaker 4: What if we just call this club club thirty two.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good as idea, that's one of the
that's a good I idea Disneyland.
Speaker 4: Disney guy is is a Clipper fan, so he might let.
Speaker 3: Us biger he is, Oh, he'll be there. Yeah, he's
off into the games. He was a Crypto.
Speaker 1: Man, if you're at the Games at Crypto and you're
not the Games, would enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Disney's into those crossovers. We got Bob Iger
with us, now, Like, do you do you think he'd
come on the show on a heartbeat?
Speaker 1: Bob? Do you want to connect with the real fans?
So the club seems fans Club thirty two, which is
what I think we're gonna start calling it from this
point on. I'm not calling it the sponsored name. I'm
calling it the Carl Tart given Club thirty two. If
you're listening and you follow us on Twitter, tweet about
how it should be called Club thirty two club, we
should do that. That seemstant Club thirty two. We're calling it.
Speaker 3: That's better than a hear Jersey retired.
Speaker 1: Two club named after you in that arena?
Speaker 3: Please? What's all about the.
Speaker 1: Club with your name on it? Does he have a
house in la is he still he has to?
Speaker 3: Like Lee? He's oh yeah, Like ma'am, no, you just
listened Detroit, Now come on, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just think they that's gonna suck, right, Oh man? Okay,
So Club thirty two seems fantastic. People are upset over
the high prices of opening night for into It.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to that that's so unusual, to.
Speaker 1: That I am confused by It's the opening night of
the newest arena in the world. I think I just
kind of assumed sh it was going to be expensive. Yeah, right,
not to be I understand, not wanting every game to
be expensive.
Speaker 2: But what I haven't gotten my tickets yet. Well, let
me check the into It app and see if they're there.
But because I know some people have gotten their tickets,
but I don't know if I'm going to be in
on opening night.
Speaker 1: What what are you going to be doing? Oh?
Speaker 3: Do you not hate Phoenix enough?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, I'm gonna go to the game.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you two, you're gonna be there. I get it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna be I don't know
if I I don't know if my pay my tickets
have have come up yet, and they have not.
Speaker 4: They have not.
Speaker 3: As long as you get there by three fifty nine am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay for a minute, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just still give me a bocka soda.
Speaker 1: Will William Updyke is joined, Uh welcome. Will We have
a new campaign started by Carl. We're just talking the
new club and into it's gonna be up until four am.
We're just all calling a club thirty two after Blake?
Are you Will's eating dip? Will popped on to eat Dip?
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: Just the place of Disney was Club thirty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring it down.
Speaker 3: Level Club thirty.
Speaker 1: Two, well digit not a level, it's not a level
club higher, you know, just to be modest. Yeah, but no,
the opening day ticket thing, it's like, I don't know,
just get over the first hump. This team is also
not you know, it's are you selling yours, Carl my.
Speaker 4: Opening night ticket?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if I have it yet. If
I have it, I'm not gonna say I want to go.
I want to be there for opening night. Also, me
and a lot of the friends already said that we
don't have if our season tickets don't have us listed
at opening because a lot of us got half seasons. Uh,
if we don't have open night tickets, we're just gonna try.
Speaker 4: To go to the wall. Tell yeah, yeah, I just
want to be in the building for that first night, you.
Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, And there's gonna be some kind of seems.
Speaker 3: To be the mentality. Hence the higher ticket prices. This
is a normal thing that happens all the time, New Area,
new stadium. You want to be in the matrix first night?
Speaker 4: Yeah, matrix.
Speaker 1: He's locked in the digits right now. Even if if
you can't get into the game, if you're close by,
there's gonna be stuff on like that main promenade walkway
thing like there's gonna be tailgating and whatnot. I know, Will,
You're furious about opening day prices, right?
Speaker 4: Oh? Will is in a matrix.
Speaker 5: I mean it makes sense. I'm gonna switch computers. This
is pissing me off.
Speaker 1: Two computers.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be met about opening night prices.
Speaker 3: I know, Alien where?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm also I haven't looked at
prices for other games. But again, this team is not
This team is going to be difficult to play, but
this is not a team that's a championship contender.
Speaker 3: Does Carlon know that?
Speaker 1: Or this season?
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, what.
Speaker 1: Will? Will is? Maybe on this is our year train,
but I'm not on that train. So tickets are gonna
like it's gonna even out.
Speaker 3: You can get season tickets to the wall for thirteen
dollars and have it as close as row three if
you get there early enough. It seems like they have
a lot of reasonable options out there.
Speaker 1: The early enough thing I can understand being an issue
for some people, but thirteen hundred for season tickets.
Speaker 3: Early enough is an option should you come early enough.
Speaker 2: I was just looking on Ticketmaster right now and they
don't even have tickets for the first game.
Speaker 1: There were some people complaining it's a hot ticket.
Speaker 2: The first game is Dallas on October fourteenth, if they
have on Ticketmaster here, unless I want to go watch
them at the Ocean Side, which I am thinking about doing.
Speaker 1: That, I have one hundred percent down to go see
the Ocean side. Ye spot.
Speaker 3: I just I don't think you can go the route
of we want a new, our own arena, a new arena,
the nicest arena in the world, but also we want
those tickets to be cheaper too than they were at Crypto.
You can't have both in this scenario. You can't have
your cake and eat too. Barber still paid for the
damn thing. You never give a cent from your taxes.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good deal deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's not. I don't know, Adam.
Speaker 2: I will say, as a person who defends this team
to the death. A soldier, a soldier in the Army
of Chris Dunn.
Speaker 3: The hell yeah, let's go John Wall for.
Speaker 2: You, John Wall. I still got my John Wall Jersey.
I'm PJ Army. Now I got my PJ. I'm gonna
get a lot of wear and tear of the PJ. Because
it looks like our city editions are probably gonna be
the same, probably in white maybe or something.
Speaker 1: The soldier the PJ. That seems like more of a
common coz mission.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, man, I trained hard for this.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: PJ said in his story recently that he was selling
shoes and he was like paying like serious inquiries only
I'm like.
Speaker 4: I would buy a pair of PJ.
Speaker 2: Tucker's shoes or a decent amount of money because we
wear the same shock.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Though, like he has memories.
Speaker 5: Pay you pay above retail.
Speaker 2: I pay just because just because it's PJ Tucker, because
he's an NBA player.
Speaker 5: He needs the money.
Speaker 1: The money.
Speaker 4: Uh he said he was. He said he was starting
to clean out it.
Speaker 2: I bet you he's selling shoes that he's probably not
even warm or maybe warm once or something like that.
It's probably some ship that's like you'll never find anywhere else.
And in his highe fourteen and if he's like give
people also the flights that he the PJ Tucker flights
are so hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the case is sick too. When he debuted those,
I thought the case was cool. That was his highlight
of the season, or outscoring Paul George in the second half.
Speaker 2: Can I say something to a cliber nation right now
with the PJ shit Listen, the online PJ hate is
not helping us at all, man, It's not helping us
at all. Because I guarantee you when PJ finally gets
off this team and he goes on the podcast, he's
going to ship on our organization like probably nobody else has.
Speaker 3: He's done it while he's on the team.
Speaker 4: So I haven't heard that.
Speaker 3: Check your local paper.
Speaker 1: What was it? Two papers, the Hosty Register and something else.
Speaker 3: Know, you got set home for insubordination basically right before
the A Star break, right, I.
Speaker 4: Do remember that. But what did he say about the team?
Speaker 1: He just talks about how well he had the first
quote about how he had the hard this transition to
make after the trade MM, the trade that involved James
Harden coming to the Clippers, and then there was a
couple of things about just like he can't get his
minutes to show how effective he can be despite getting
those minutes.
Speaker 5: He thinks he got a raw deal when we had
to take on a bad contract to not give up
another draft asset.
Speaker 3: Okay, and gave him not one, not two, but three
different opportunities. Two stints are in the regular season when
they first got him, then realized he was really bad
and they can't play him. Then he complained, got another
chance for like a week or so, and then got
to start I must win Game six against the Dallas Bavericks.
I think I think he got a fair shake.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man. That the reddit, the reddit threads
about PJ R.
Speaker 1: Well that I mean, look reddit threads.
Speaker 2: Then just I mean, Adam, Adam, you probably agree not be.
Speaker 1: That's follow Adam B.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he got so many shakes. He got like the
fourth and fifth shake at the urinal where you're like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 4: You're playing with it?
Speaker 5: Nah?
Speaker 1: I think do you have the PJ. Tucker Jersey?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sick hell, yeah, you want to go get it.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, is it in the room with us?
Speaker 1: The room watching us, like watching us.
Speaker 4: Talking about your sales and be nice to PJ.
Speaker 3: While I'm going with the John Wall.
Speaker 1: Two people are in and out of this episode. This
is the second time Carl's got Uh.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on with my computer. I'm
on the exact same Internet right now. Honestly, the exact
same computer. They're both twenty sixteen MacBook pros.
Speaker 1: How how excited are you for Club thirty two? We
talked about that a little before you got on, but
we're trying to do a live episode from Club thirty
two at some point.
Speaker 5: Well, there ain't ship else really going on around there,
So Lavender Blue, you gotta get over the last you
gotta have. You gotta have one bar. So I'm hoping
that it's I'm hoping if it's two percent as good
as Hanks, that's the best we can hope for.
Speaker 1: And if you an Englewood and you haven't been to
Lavender Blue, go to Lavender Blue.
Speaker 5: Oh you got Also if there are a bunch of
other bars in that area that I don't know about,
sorry play me.
Speaker 1: Oh you got the City Edition? Yeah? If you're.
Speaker 3: How much did you spend on that?
Speaker 2: I just want to I paid, I paid triple for this,
so like twenty bucks it was.
Speaker 5: It was a custom. It was not from the team store.
Speaker 4: This is game one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he bought it from p DA Tucker. He needs
the money he.
Speaker 3: Needs his first game against the Lakers. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4: I got it. Uh, I got it.
Speaker 2: Uh when when everything went on said at the end
of the.
Speaker 1: Season, it's like a call. Uh, the Jonas would design
City edition court this year is going to be sick.
Speaker 2: And that's why I say, I'm it looks like this.
I'm assuming these will be back. So this is gonna
get some burned something.
Speaker 1: I could wear this for at least another year.
Speaker 3: The front of it will be back.
Speaker 4: The front, Adam, I'm not going back and forth with
you on my man.
Speaker 3: You want to like PJ.
Speaker 5: I don't know he for three years. If they wave
and stretch him, if he's still paid by the team.
Speaker 1: He's still on the books, dude, it's legit.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: We're gonna speaking of weaknesses. We're gonna discuss some more
weak spots for the Clippers coming after a quick audio
ad break. If you're watching us on video, you're not
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we're back. We are that.
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened in the first part. I
wasn't really here. Uh, but we're gonna talk about some dips.
We're gonna talk about some weak spots for the Clippers,
which there are two glaring ones. Uh, sort of a
retread up of what where we were at last season.
But where do you guys want to start with this?
I I actually want to start with the thing I'm
the most concerned about, which is the backup center. I
think again, we're yet in the same We're yet in
the same position. H Ever, since we let Hardenstein walk
for John.
Speaker 1: Wall it's people seem kind of optimistic on Clippers Twitter
about the backup five center competition, which, as it stands
of five thirty three pm August twenty second, twenty four,
it's mobob O versus Kai Jones.
Speaker 5: Is who would you like to see?
Speaker 1: The other two centers?
Speaker 5: Who would you like to see? You think zoo? You
hate you hate zoos? So you don't want him to
have more minutes?
Speaker 4: You mean who would I like to see? Start?
Speaker 5: No, exactly exactly, Yeah, who should do?
Speaker 1: How they show you my City Edition. Kai Jones.
Speaker 4: Jones who Kai Jones?
Speaker 3: I can't wait un till it's abundantly clear beats to
zoo Bus is the third best player on the Clippers
this season.
Speaker 2: So I think it's pretty clear, Adham, everyone, I think
it's pretty clear.
Speaker 4: I take a shot at Jack Daniels every day when
I think about it.
Speaker 1: You're hurt. I'm hurt up holding the gun going how.
Speaker 3: Many all tight tarts have died on that hill? Thinking
of isn't a good basketball player.
Speaker 4: The best player on the team.
Speaker 3: Who's who's the third best player?
Speaker 4: Carl, I'm agreeing with you. I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 3: It seems so sincere with disagreement.
Speaker 1: Okay, Unfortunately him, This is hard for Carl.
Speaker 3: Carl. He was the second best player in the playoffs series?
Speaker 5: Is him?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: We on board?
Speaker 3: They took a team that wins to the finals to
six games without Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 2: Basically, I'm I'm I'm way more optimistic than you are.
Speaker 4: Are you? You hate PJ? Tucker? Bro? What are you
talking about?
Speaker 1: The worst player on the team.
Speaker 4: Man, here's what I will say. I'll give you this.
Speaker 3: You are a true hooper, Carl. You really know your stuff.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2: I'll give you this first of all. Chill out number one.
I'm not getting more from Long Beach.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I wonder, let's calm our ship down number one.
Number two.
Speaker 2: I understand that Zubos is the third best player on
the team.
Speaker 4: I get that.
Speaker 2: It is something I have to live with this whole season,
and I did. If you want me to praise him
in some sort of way. He played great in Olympic
ball and.
Speaker 4: That gave me hope.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this guy international play plays differently
than he does in the NBA. Uh, this is interesting
to watch. He was he was balling out. He was
balling out for his home country. Maybe we need to
get more Croatian people on the team. Ain't that where
you're from. Yes, yeah, he was balling out.
Speaker 1: But now his backups are The backup spot for him
is bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys. Neither one of those guys are. I mean,
Obama's never panned out the way he should. Kyle Jones
actually showed a lot of flashes.
Speaker 1: He's a flash guy, right like he's a highlight. He's
a do a big dunk guy. And then maybe give
up a couple of points in the paint guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, and neither one of them are as strong as
Bots is. They don't defend as well as he does.
Speaker 1: So it hurts you. It hurts you so much.
Speaker 2: But why let me ask you this though, because I
think I'm being misconstrued here.
Speaker 4: What do you what do you think is hurting.
Speaker 1: Me that you have to admit that is good?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no no, That's not what's hurting
me here.
Speaker 2: What's hurting me is the fact that I have to
admit that he is the third best player on our
team when that means our team is not very good.
Speaker 4: I understand, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's what's hurting you. Not holding a PJ. Tucker jersey
in your hands right now?
Speaker 4: It's it's first of all, the PJ. Tucker jersey is
not in my hand.
Speaker 2: My dip is E other jersey's over there.
Speaker 4: I will get it. I'm gonna bring it. I'm gonna
mail it to your place.
Speaker 3: What does it beats the zoobots have to do to
truly win you over, though, and feel good about him
being the third best player? What are you looking for
from a points average and a rebounding average this season?
Speaker 2: Give me you know what, honestly for a starting center
in the league. Uh, let me check here, let me
do some let me do some research.
Speaker 3: In today's NBA. By the way, but there's only about
five guys that are really superstars at the center spot.
Speaker 4: At the center spot. Let me let me see what
where you go? Yokich embiid No, neither one of those guys.
I'm not even come on.
Speaker 2: Jared Allen was sixteen and ten. I want from zubots
eighteen and ten?
Speaker 1: Who sign me up?
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. I don't think it's crazy.
I take it.
Speaker 4: What did you do?
Speaker 1: Possible? Let me pull it up.
Speaker 3: In the series against Dallas, he was about sixteen to ten.
Speaker 4: He averaged minutes he averaged what last year? Teven and eleven, twelve.
Speaker 1: And nine last year, and fewer minutes than he played
in twenty two to twenty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was frustrating because we got Tye and plumb.
Speaker 1: Yes, he played twenty six minutes per game. You up
that to thirty three, which.
Speaker 3: What's what's this thirty six from last season? Zubos, no idea?
Speaker 1: Are you looking it up? I amn?
Speaker 4: Now, can we agree on this? Adam?
Speaker 2: Can we agree that with this, with this team, and
we are to compete him being the third best player
on the team, if we are to compete, if we
are to try to at least get into the play,
and he is going to have to take another lead, right.
Speaker 3: Get into the plan. Yeah, get the tested.
Speaker 2: To stay to be somewhere between seventeen. Yet I don't
think we're gonna be any higher than it.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it begets the minutes, he'll make the leap.
So last year's per thirty six was sixteen and thirteen,
So if he gets thirty two minutes at least, I
think he'll be in business. I agree he is probably
the most important player coming into this season for them
to have success. If if heats the Zubots, doesn't show growth,
if he can't be consistent, if he can't stay healthy,
because remember he missed some time last season with that
cap injury, then the Clippers are really in trouble because
it goes back to the backup center position and Mobamba, who,
as you said, was unproven. Kai Jones, he's played six
hundred minutes in the NBA flashes flashes for sure on Charlotte. Also,
like it is, he's a really raw player. I love him.
I hope it works out.
Speaker 1: But it's tough if those are if Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Mobamba though, over what they got the
version of Mason Plumbley they got last season.
Speaker 4: The second half, I think I think Plumb was playing well.
He got hurt. Pre injury, yeah, pre injury.
Speaker 2: Plumb was was was kind of in a in a
little bit of a bag, and Daniel Tye was just
really inconsistent. That was That was like, that was the
part that bothered me the most because he would come
in like you really have a game, and then all
of a sudden, it's like you can't hit can't hit
the side.
Speaker 4: Of a barn.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought also six like six nine or six ten,
he's just too small for what the Clippers needed. His
defense wasn't good enough for his size.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I thought the effort was there's just nothing
he could do about his hy Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would get dunked on all the time. But
you were like, keep it up, Daniel, wait to make
it more difficult for him.
Speaker 2: At I also, yeah, I also need to see and
I know you disagree with this, Adam, but I need
to see more consistent uh finishing at the rim from Zoo.
I think defensively, Zoo plays very well. I think he's
a top top half of the league center defensively, I'll
give him that. I think, yeah, uh, top half of
the league.
Speaker 3: It's not that I'm trying disagree with you. I just
it's hard to say that when I think from five
to nine feet out last season he finished top three
in the league. And I mean, all right, listen, he
was ahead of Jokic, I think in that area.
Speaker 2: Now the eye test, though, yeah, the eye test, right, yo,
I'm still seeing too many, many many mislayups.
Speaker 3: Sixty from five to nine feet out, you need.
Speaker 4: To be seventy three. Goddamn it.
Speaker 3: He shot sixty seven percent from less than five feet.
Speaker 2: I've never seen Jokics miss a layup. And before you
reply to that with he's the best player in the league,
I think I have the fact that he one of
the things that makes him so good where he I
think I think Zoo Box is a better defendit.
Speaker 1: Than he is, and I like him.
Speaker 4: I think if he can.
Speaker 2: Just add a little bit more touch, because there is
a lot of what feels like easy misses, even though
these numbers say otherwise, it is just when you're watching
that shit, it's like, oh my god, like and I
think they just he needs to Lebron powder his hands
before the game. You know, he needs to gross hair out.
Speaker 4: I've been saying it's been how many years? Wow, you
need to say out.
Speaker 1: We're all on the same page on that.
Speaker 4: Adam, you need to grow your hair out too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get me to shoot sixty four percent from
five to nine feet out and leave the league in
that category.
Speaker 1: Sure, Adam, grow your hair super long. That would be funny. Well,
how are you feeling about the backup power forward position?
Because we got Kawhi playing power forward and then Batoomb
and then Kobe Brown.
Speaker 2: That's my man and the go'n get my Kobe Brown jerseybe.
Speaker 5: It just comes down to how many games Kawhi it
is gonna play. I think if you can keep batoom uh,
you know, in a fairly low minutes load, say fifteen
to eighteen per game, I feel okay with that. I
feel okay with that, especially just for his style of play,
you know what I mean, Like he's gonna be doing
a lot of standing on the wing and he will
defensively get involved out but well, I mean it's not
like it's not the same as like eighteen minutes of
Kawhi Leonard. So I think it really comes down to
that if if Kawhi misses only twenty twenty five games,
I think that it's it's doable. Obviously, when you get
into that third spot, it's it's a pretty severe drop
off in talent and especially with the defense. But like
they have more defenders now, so I think it just
depends on how they can like lean into this sort
of new new identity Chris.
Speaker 1: Doll helping out with that more defensive stuff, which Carl
said he's a soldier in the Army of Chris.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true yet. I was making
a joke.
Speaker 1: However, you're a you're dodging the draft.
Speaker 4: I'm dodging the draft currently. I got I got Shan Splints.
Speaker 1: I'm less a fox.
Speaker 3: I'll give Carl this, big Zoo's probably like sixty when
it comes to field goal percentage within five feet, so
five to nine with the float game, elite best in
the league. But he may he may have something there
with being that close to the rim. Now it's fractions
from all these guys, and it goes from like seventy
five percent to where he's at sixty six percent. But
all right, a few more dunks, a few more dunks
from Big Zoo eighteen and ten eighteen and ten.
Speaker 2: Thsking for That's all I'm asking for. And if he could,
if he could go to twenty and ten.
Speaker 1: Oho, now we're cooking with gas.
Speaker 4: I was mean. I was saying eighteen to be generous
to my men. Listen. I just was on NBA auctions
dot Com right now.
Speaker 1: Uh, you love you love that website.
Speaker 2: Trying to buy a Zoo Buys jersey for cheaper than
everybody else in the league's jersey.
Speaker 4: I was gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I was gonna do it, and I was gonna buy
it right on on right now on air for Adam.
Speaker 4: But what they don't have.
Speaker 3: It sold out, sold out as it should.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many of you got jersey? God? Damnit?
How many of you got?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I haven't worn outside of the Batom jersey that I
wore for social media from France.
Speaker 4: I haven't worn a lot of jerseys.
Speaker 1: Adam wore French jersey to the Into It Dome tour.
You were what he wore the French national team jersey
to the into it dumb tour.
Speaker 2: No way, don't lie on my Adam like that. I'm
not he weren't during our nation's Olympics.
Speaker 4: Don't lie.
Speaker 3: The game already happened. I mean France lost. I Well,
here's the deal, I said, like in June, if Nicholas
Batum came back, I will root for France against anyone,
including Team USA. I didn't know they'd end up in
a gold medal game against one another. I had to
stick up. I had to pay off the bat with myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like nobody lost us.
Speaker 3: And I love it too.
Speaker 1: But other than the backup five in the backup center,
everything else seems pretty solid.
Speaker 3: Back up for the four in general.
Speaker 2: Here is what, here's what one of my issues is.
I'm sure you're gonna get to it. Will uh So
we played this team plays a little game called basketball,
and one of the main tenants. And since Adam said,
I'm a real hooper, there's one thing I used to
do when I was a hooper is when I would
take the ball in my hands and I would do
like this, shoot it, you know what I mean. I
don't think anybody on this team can do that.
Speaker 1: We got norm.
Speaker 2: We got norm, like we Norm is our main score.
We need some We need some more scoring.
Speaker 4: On this team.
Speaker 3: He's not wrong. They don't have a ton of shot creation.
If Kawhi's out, if James Harden's out with the orchestra
in the offense and making it easier for everyone, you know,
depending on what happens with the investigation from the NBA,
could be very much needed in that area. Who's whose
name's on that balls? I know him.
Speaker 2: It's Norman Powell's. It's a Norman pal sign ball. You
want to go get my? Uh my uh Jamichael.
Speaker 3: Green Man, I missed J Mike. I love J Mike.
Speaker 1: The scoring thing is a very real concern.
Speaker 2: That's my That's my biggest concern is, Like I do
think we will have a lockdown defensive team. Yeah, I
think we're gonna be very good on defense from top
to bottom. But I am very scared of scoring. We're
gonna need PG to hit that corner.
Speaker 4: Three.
Speaker 1: He's got to be at least forty five percent from a.
Speaker 2: Corner, Hey, Zubak and sixty three he can at least
get fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to see where Terrence Man takes a
leap in this scenario, because we just talked about Zubats
taking a leap, Terrence is gonna have to take a
leap in scoring.
Speaker 4: And even bigger lead than Zubats.
Speaker 1: Yep, for sure, he's more chances.
Speaker 2: Zubas has carved out his place. I need I need Terrence.
What did Terrence average last year?
Speaker 3: He ain't get more than eighteen like Zoo.
Speaker 4: That would be cool, though, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: What was he at eight points per game last year?
Speaker 1: It was at a and I said sixteen, and Will
and Adam threw bricks at me through the video screen
and they all hit me.
Speaker 3: I hope it doubles. I just don't see it happening
in one year.
Speaker 5: I'm not Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 3: I'd say twelve to fourteen.
Speaker 1: The bricks landed. It did make sense once I once,
I was like, yeah, I mean doubles crazy. And how
was is Derek Jones going to score?
Speaker 3: What was he at seven?
Speaker 5: Twenty thirty?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Once we start Dereck Jones and together.
Speaker 3: It goes back to the problem of just in the creation.
Speaker 1: Both of them were at eight points basically eight points
last year, So both those guys double are scoring out
butt Zu gets to twenty lorm averages twenty three off
the bench.
Speaker 3: What are you looking for from Terrence Carl.
Speaker 4: From Terrence Man.
Speaker 2: I would love for him to average fourteen to fifteen
points a game.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not impossible.
Speaker 2: It's not if he had a real bad shooting year
last year and he fell into a slump and he
stopped shooting, which is the worst thing you can do.
And I just want him to keep shooting. And I
think I want to see the thing with the young
guys and our old guys that it seems like are
there are weird mentors.
Speaker 4: I'm happy that Nick Batum is back.
Speaker 1: Weird mentors.
Speaker 2: I love, yeah, cause think about like like PG apparently
was really big on helping with Terrence Man in the
Shape and he's gone now, and so like, I don't
know if Harden is that guy for somebody like Terrence
and Rico. Also that that that uh that Jamileague gut
it that that played Jordan Miller. No, no, no, no, no,
the other one the point guard damn Christy No no, no,
the point guard that played in the in the summer
Leagueless Yes herkless Elijah.
Speaker 1: He's a dickhead.
Speaker 2: On defense, which I like, Yeah, he was at the
Rico Rico runs, and I know if that was like
a sign of like he might.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a dude.
Speaker 1: It was literally all the young guys in James Harden
and Derek Jones Jr.
Speaker 3: Like serious on defense. Yeah, he wrecked full of subber league.
Speaker 1: We need that in camp too, That's the kind of
I think it was Clint Park's tweeting about it, like
this is the stuff that the Clippers need in camp,
and these guys to get challenged like that in camp,
I don't think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Carl Terrace has a start hot.
He started so cold last season, shied away little bit.
By twenty twenty four, the shot came around and I
think he shot over forty percent in the new year.
But he can't start slow this year. He has to
play with confidence right away.
Speaker 2: The thing about these numbers is like him shooting for it.
What's the deal with airline?
Speaker 4: Sooo? He like for me, it's like he's not shooting enough.
Speaker 2: So like this is over like an X amount of
game span and he shoots makes ten and ten out
of is that ten out of four?
Speaker 1: I think it's like peaks and Valley.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got one consistency man, Like.
Speaker 1: Look at the game blog though the game blog's not crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but.
Speaker 1: I know what you mean now is the Luke Canard problem? Right,
Like Luke Canard would have those nights where it was like,
all right, one for four and then he'd be like
a six for eight, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the next night he probably might not give
minutes and right yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck, So how much is the scoring? Kind of because
Tyleru's got a lot to figure out? Well, you said
last year was kind of his hardest year coaching, which
I think was probably right, But this year is hard
in a different way, like he's got to kind of
plug and play a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's another one of those things
where I'm I'm hoping that the front office and the
coaching staff are on the same page because Tyleru, you know,
I guess I wouldn't think of him as leaning more
into a complete defensive identity as a team. It doesn't really,
that's not really what I would think of from him.
With the scoring thing, though, you really only need to
make up like twenty one points to be you know, theoretically,
you only need to make up about twenty one points
to be one of the better offenses in the league
like they were last year. And I think just James Harden,
I mean, he only averaged like seventeen points last year
for the Clippers on more opportunities. He he hasn't had
a year where he's been a sub twenty guy since
he was six Man of the Year. You know, we're
talking about like over a decade. So just there, I mean,
he's probably good for another eight. I would expect him.
I would expect him to be around that twenty four
to twenty six mark.
Speaker 1: I would think per game.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, you just if Zoo picks up an
extra you know, five six points a game, Terrence picks
up three. You know, yeah, it's not seeming impossible to me.
I guess from a from a sport, from from a scoring.
Speaker 3: Perspective, build a Paul George and the aggregate somehow.
Speaker 5: Now basically, I think defensively, we've already gotten better, Like
we were already better on that side of the floor.
We agreed, hor Yeah, so yeah, you just have to
make up for that the offense.
Speaker 3: And the aggregate, and they can't do it with make
it up for the twenty one points by having to
take thirty two shots to get there. They got to
do it efficiently, so Carl said, Zuo's gotta finish at
the rim more times more often than not terris Man has.
You know, we thought after the thirty nine point game performance,
we thought that next season would be the biggest leap
for him. It wasn't. There have also been flashes of
a more well rounded game when you look at shot
profile with the type of shots he can take, Like
he has that little turnaround fade away from about ten
feet out that he goes to every once in a while.
We really don't know with a bigger sample size how
efficient he can be or if he could get out.
Speaker 5: I don't really want him going to that too much more,
to be perfectly honest.
Speaker 3: I mean, it looks good if until like, if he
goes to it a bunch and it's like, okay, it
was a small sample sized thing when nobody's looking and
there all the attentions on Kawhi and Paul George. But
if he has stuff that's bread and butter already, we
should probably spam it until we find out what or
not he could do this at a higher volume.
Speaker 1: No how long are you thinking that he's not.
Speaker 3: Getting a fourteen or fifteen points just on transition layups? Like,
how else is he gonna do it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, pransition lamps and.
Speaker 3: Threes is not gonna be enough. That's how you get
to just eight points per game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about that. He needs to develop that.
Kawhi Midi, you need to go down to San Diego.
Speaker 1: Kauai has been working out. Kawhi, was it usc He's
been like, yeah, it's uh. I like how active he's been.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I've talked about this already, but Kawhi apparently,
like what Pat bav said, and I've heard other people say.
Gyiobertarenis has said it that Kawhi can't stay healthy because
he's working out constantly.
Speaker 4: He goes too hard. Yeah, I believe that. I do
believe that.
Speaker 1: I can see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Adam don't believe it. I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's possible. He is one of the artist workers.
He hasn't gotten hurt during the off season for and
these injuries. He says he doesn't play five on five
during the off season typically, But it's all wear and
tear if you're that hard of a worker. Yeah, it's
it's possible.
Speaker 1: That and he said it was a nightmare, you know
what I mean, Like he's trying to kill with Kawhi
at those workouts was like very difficult. And Pat Bev
is not a guy who doesn't, you know, not work
out in the.
Speaker 3: Off season on the beach and Uggs Gyms Hugs. I
was thinking of Brady. I don't know right now, Pat
Ev and Hugs.
Speaker 1: That would have been a whole We maybe would have
won a chip if he was wearing Did you guys
see the footage of him playing in practice and uh,
where's that? Israel?
Speaker 4: Israel?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 1: He's just killing everybody. Yeah, it's yeah, it's just like
he's I don't know, it's like, I mean, he's gonna
play completely different than when he played in the NBA,
which I guess is pretty cool. But like he he'll
probably be like MVP, right I mean, dude, yeah, Like
and he's like his like footwork, you know what I mean.
Like he it didn't look like he was like you know,
it's Pat bab. Obviously he's still going on hundred percent.
Like it wasn't like playoffs Bev. You know, yeah, he
might put up like a triple double it's crazy.
Speaker 5: Do you think he finishes the season there? I like,
do you think he ends up getting a spot somewhere?
Speaker 1: I think he does in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think somebody picks him.
Speaker 5: He's done it before.
Speaker 1: Does he want to at this point though, Like, I'm
sure people maybe want him, But dude, he's like if
he's get everything he wants, if he can get.
Speaker 5: Like some spot minutes for a contender, you don't think
he would bounce.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess. I don't know. I guess
I would be sixty four.
Speaker 5: Milwaukee's on the phone. You think he hangs up?
Speaker 3: Hell, No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think sixty forty, I make No, I don't think
he hangs up. But I think there's a chance where
he goes what and everything I want here? And he
hasn't been playing you know what I mean? Like him.
I'm also like him destroying the Israeli league. That's where
does that rank in the euro leagues? Because he's not
playing that same kind of basketball, you know what I mean? Like,
I don't know, maybe he just talked about how he
got everything he wanted from this weird deal.
Speaker 3: How does the schedule line up with the NBA schedules.
Israeli League I could end before the NBA seasons, like
in in February Genuary.
Speaker 1: Is true because they're like they actually have more back
to backs than the Clippers. They play one hundred and
thirty seven games in the Israeli.
Speaker 3: He was a guy who averaged something like thirty five
points in high school. It's crazy to think about some
of these defensive specialists in the NBA like him and
Tony Allen and in high school, these guys were getting
in college too, they were getting buckets.
Speaker 1: There's the Rico Heines story of Bev's first time. Rico
Hines Rico was like he was just dunking everything like
he was just like he was playing this like insane
uh hops.
Speaker 3: You watch him in the layup line. He always does
this joke thing where he'll jump up and act like
he hits his head on the rim. He's always like,
ahh Pat, Bev is sneaky.
Speaker 1: Hops. Okay. They don't keep very good stats. They're playing
twenty nine games in the one in each season, it
seems a couple of games a week.
Speaker 3: I bet he gets a pro rated veteran minimum before
the NBA season's over and somebody brings him back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just be kind of surprised.
Speaker 1: Maybe he turns it down.
Speaker 5: Maybe he turns it down. My favorite, my favorite warm
up petty pat Bev thing would he would do like
an over exaggerated impression of the hard and step back
where it seems like he takes one too many steps.
So pat Bev would take like four steps back and
it was very funny. It was very funny.
Speaker 1: That's a good bit.
Speaker 3: That was like when Blake imitated Austin Rivers did a
pretty damn good job.
Speaker 1: Okay, so like April tenth was when their season ends.
Speaker 3: Oh well that's playoffs, So he'd have to cut out early.
Speaker 1: Come home to the Clippers, Adam to the Adam to
the glut of guards we have yet again.
Speaker 4: You and PJ cad share a jersey.
Speaker 1: Chris Dunn learning from pat Bev would be something I
wouldn't be mad at at all. Very similar. Chris Dunn
has a great floater game. Pat Bev had a great
floater game.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Chris Dunn needs to learn anything that,
you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean?
Speaker 4: He's thirty, is he thirty?
Speaker 3: He's twenty nine or thirty? Yeah, I thought he was
gonna be a six man offensive weapon off the bench
when he came out of Providence. He was balling in
the tournament. I never thought he'd take this route in
the NBA.
Speaker 1: He figured it out. He figured out how to play
professional basketball. Sometimes you got to switch it up. Jimmifer
det didn't know how to do it. All right, we
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Back with more PATV talk and dip talk in three two.
Speaker 3: One, Welcome back and eclips and dip Imda Moason, We
got check Mackley, will Updyke and Carl tart here Season three,
episode eleven. Three eleven was a big band for me
growing up that now does not age well. Uh, what was.
Speaker 1: Your favorite three to eleven song?
Speaker 3: Song? Ooh, that's tough. Maybe I went with that. It
wasn't ambers the color energy, it wasn't down. It was
probably something like running, which is like a deep cut
off transistor or something like that.
Speaker 5: It was a deep cut.
Speaker 1: Fuck the posters want know that one. That one.
Speaker 3: I mean that could have been a double album. It
was like twenty tracks on there, guys.
Speaker 1: All right, So Pat bav was gonna win MVP of
the Israeli League and then come play for the Bucks
and win a championship, which is gonna be a good time.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's any way of the Bucks who
were in the championship.
Speaker 1: No, I don't either. Before we get into dip talk, Carl,
who's your favorite young guy that you're watching for this
year for the Clippers.
Speaker 2: But the Clippers, my man Cam Christie. I think he's
gonna come in and contribute a few, a few threes. Okay,
he's gonna he's like I think he's uh. I mean,
I'm just going off of his brother, and I think
he's taller and better than his brother, brother Chip, And
so the fact that he's been able to contribute on
the Lakers, I think we might have found a little
diamond in the rough. I think he can come in,
he can hit. All I need from him is to
do with BJ Boston.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't for some reason, Boston man J Boston. Yeah, Well,
Brandon would shoot, he just wouldn't make any of the shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's what I'm saying, like, if if
Cam Christy can come in and just just hit a
couple of shots. And I also want Jordan Miller to like,
you worked your ass off in Summer League, like here
and and and and do your best PG impression.
Speaker 1: You know, best PG, best SHA impression. Get those double handoffs,
the lefty shay. Yeah, that makes sense. How are you
feeling about Kobe Brown? I am Now I'm more on
Jordan Miller train than Kobe Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was on the Kobe Brown train
last year. I was very excited.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then I followed him on on TikTok and his
content is pretty boring, and so.
Speaker 1: I was like, what's he doing.
Speaker 2: He posts like the kind of days in the lives,
but he doesn't really talk.
Speaker 4: And then he just like he's.
Speaker 1: The McDonald's guy helf driving McDonald's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just like a song.
Speaker 2: It's just like a Wife and Luci song or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like it was a good Assay.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, like give us some give
us some actual content, right.
Speaker 1: This is like weird, Like yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: He also didn't impress in the summer league. I don't
think he has taken the leap, but there's still enough time.
But I want to see him be a viable backup
power forward. Yeah maybe maybe, Uh, what's the name can
help with that?
Speaker 4: Frenchman?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 4: Nika Batoon?
Speaker 1: Yea french Man. Yeah, Kobe browd learned from Batune would
be solid. That would be, but again might be a
weird vet as you mentioned. Yeah, any other Clippers thoughts
before we get into the dip talk. We all have
a dip. Carl's is a twist on that, which I respect.
Speaker 4: Because I didn't know I was actually supposed to buy
a dip.
Speaker 1: You know you can do. You can do chewing tobacco dip.
You don't have it.
Speaker 2: I literally thought we were gonna talk about I can
give you a recipe for a dip.
Speaker 1: That would be welcome to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not, but you gotta do it with a
dip in because that's what you Yeah, so who would
like to go first for their dips?
Speaker 1: Who's going to show their dip first?
Speaker 5: I'll get mine out of the way because I got
some bullshit for you.
Speaker 1: This is uh, also what you miss if you're not.
Speaker 5: This is some daisy sour cream that I wore salsa
into signature select from Vaughn's Only the Finest uh and
I dipped some uh some Persian cucumbers in there, which
you could see me eating loudly at the beginning of
this show, or at the beginning the beginning when I
got here, that was really the beginning. So uh, yeah,
I got some bullshit for you this week. No, I
probably wouldn't bring that. This is like a very much
like a high or just at home. You know, this
is not something Yeah, this is not something I would
eat publicly or bring to someone's house. I mean, honestly,
it's I feel like it's pretty braving me to even
admit this on the show that it's.
Speaker 1: Space.
Speaker 3: It's like a three am or at Club thirty two,
like at that time it sounds pretty good.
Speaker 1: So out of Club thirty two at four oh one
am and you're like, uh, lyft driver pulls up. He's like, hey,
there's waters and there's daisy sour cream. Day All right, Carl,
what do you got? You gotta explain? So what are
you dipping right now? Because you you're the first guys
to bring two kinds of dips.
Speaker 2: Smoking Mountain herbal schnuff, no tobacco, no nicodine, corn silk.
Speaker 1: What does it do?
Speaker 5: What's the point?
Speaker 2: It makes you look cool by I got this as
a Christmas gift, but shout out to Smoky Mountain America's original.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Tell you I love it.
Speaker 2: Something about a nice dip that I get made every
time I go back home. My stepmam makes some of
the best and also another one cousin, and it's called
a little bit of ground beef rotail dip.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a real West Coast thing on thing,
but back home, you get your cannon rotail. You get
just a nice Belvita cheese or block of cream cheese,
a little bit of that ud Do dollar a daisy,
you know, and you cook. You put all that in
the crockpot. You cook your ground beef and you mix
that in once the cheese is already cooked in the
slow cooker, and put your ground beef in there. Season
it up a little bit, get your big old bag
of Dorito's not your.
Speaker 4: Cheese, and go to town.
Speaker 1: That sounds solicious.
Speaker 4: You ever have you ever had a rotail Adam.
Speaker 3: No sounds great through the way you describe it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty sad stuff. You could do a buffalo chicken
with that, you could do. I prefer the ground beef.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that, the ground beef, ground beef tip.
It's hard to beat. Some chreeso in there would be
good too.
Speaker 4: You know what. No, I'm not even gonna say this
on this part. This would get me killed.
Speaker 1: Say it. I know what, I think, I know what's
about to say.
Speaker 3: Say.
Speaker 4: I'm not a big chorriso guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big cheeso guy.
Speaker 2: I can do it and shout out to the caso
fundido at El Campadre.
Speaker 1: But yeah, good and and at uh casita.
Speaker 3: I agree with Carl. I'll often substitute steak for the
chreso in my case of funddo.
Speaker 1: Well, that's I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 5: I like the I like vegan cheeriso better than the
regular kind.
Speaker 1: I think you got chriso. It's so greasy. You got
to do it in small you can't do you know,
caso addo is the only thing I think that. Yeah,
that's as large as you can get.
Speaker 4: With vegan caso. Would you say vegan vegan Chriso.
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying. They got every trader goes.
Speaker 3: It's really good in the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. You're giving them that. All right, I'm
gonna do my dip.
Speaker 3: I went so Jo, please let me go first. I
know you got something good here. We can't end on
mine first. We can't end on mine before you. Okay,
you don't want to add on this. This is awful.
This is bullshit part two.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You stole that from a Buffalo wild wings.
Speaker 3: Well they stold at the store.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I had a little skirt steak that I dipped them
their garlic parmesan sauce because it's kind of buttery. It works.
Speaker 5: I love that you're using steak as chip. This is
this is the most unhinged developments and I really enjoy
but it is Uh, it's not good behavior.
Speaker 3: Oh the lettuce goes bad so quickly. I don't know
what to use. Like, yeah, I'm sorry, Chuck.
Speaker 5: It works better than lettuce, and it stays and it
keeps longer.
Speaker 1: Oh punt, Yeah that makes sense. Would you bring that
to a barbecue, Adam?
Speaker 3: I mean, the garlic parmesan is pretty good from Wingstop
if you're into that.
Speaker 1: So I probably looked like Buffalo wild Wings, not wing Stop,
which there's.
Speaker 3: Buffalo wild Wings, not wing Street, not wing Stop, Buffalo
wild Wings Wings Street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I went. I actually went to first. I
got a wild hair to go. I hadn't been to
an Arowon in ten years. When I stole a charcoal
water from the one by the grove um and there's
one kind of close by me. I went and Will,
this was inspired by you. This is a Keto dip
because I know you've been given Keto dip tips.
Speaker 4: This is a.
Speaker 1: Like a garlic hollo pano tomato dip. I kept it
under fifteen, which for two items at Arawan is incredibly difficult.
Speaker 4: What was the other item packed? Gum?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I got some levache bread. I wanted to get some
like bread, some good bread there too. This is really good.
It's a little tomato heavy when you first taste it.
But I would bring this to a barbecue. It's rich,
and I think I'd put it more on a bread
than a chip. But this was good. And I'm that
Arawon was the busiest grocery strive ever been into my
entire life.
Speaker 3: I'm never going back see anyone famous.
Speaker 1: No, but the security guard. Diggs was not there, I
would have lost my ship. If Diggs was there, I
would have blown up that that his spot at Arelin.
But yeah, good Dip, good keto Dip can't really knock it. It
was like eight bucks doesn't feel crazy? Yeah, but don't
shop at airline, all right? Anything else we want to
make is what I'm saying. Anything else we want to
mention before we let these wonderful intelligent listeners, Anything else
you want to get off our chefs about the Clippers,
anything before we head.
Speaker 2: Up, I'll say it is. I don't think next year
is going to be badest people acting like he's gonna
be's gonna be rough. Hell yeah, but it ain't gonna
be as bad as people why.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we got we got your defensive Yeah, Will's
on this is our year.
Speaker 2: Path that'd be hilarious, Oh my god. And this is
the type of year that it'll happened too. Seems kind
of constructed like the Toronto Raptors.
Speaker 1: Derek Jones stinking it up. Derek Jones Junior averages twenty seven. Yeah,
that's what has to happen. Derek jo Junior average is
twenty seven.
Speaker 5: Acquire both in the.
Speaker 1: Harden Kawhi play seventy six games. It'll be good. All right,
Well we do have to end this. Carl, thank you
so much for coming on. Where can these listeners and
viewers follow you on social media so they can get
closer to your everyday life.
Speaker 2: I'm only on Instagram at damn it, Carl, D A
N M I T C A R L.
Speaker 4: Does that work for me too? On A? You on Zoom?
Are you on zoom?
Speaker 1: We're not? None of us are on zoom. You and
Oudam have something in common? Now, well, Carl, we always
a preach. I appreciate you coming on the show. We
didn't have the curse on because the.
Speaker 2: Curse here, the curse is gone. You'll see if he
comes back during the season, unless.
Speaker 1: Into a dome collapse and which the curse is incredibly real. Adam,
we need one positive thing or wait before we get
into that, We're not giving up. Wait, you gotta do
one positive about bj Tucker. But first will where can
people demand that their loved ones and then coworkers or employees,
depending what level they are at their job, follow rate
and subscribe this to this podcast?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the best way to follow and subscribe to this
podcast over on YouTube. That's YouTube dot com slash at
Clippers podcast. If you just want the audio version, that's
okay too. You can listen to us wherever you get
your podcasts. If you happen to listen over on Apple Podcasts, Spotify.
If she left us a little ratio review, we'd love that.
But you know what, however you ingest the show.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. We appreciate you, and remember to call
the club and into it Club thirty two for Blake Griffin.
All right, Adam, one positive thing about PJ. Tucker and
then we can get on out of here.
Speaker 3: So but the next time we have Carl tart On,
he's gonna have a pair of PJ. Tucker's shoes. And
that's gonna be cool because a real NBA player put
his feet in those things and may or may not
have actually played a game in them. You may get
him fresh, Carl. There's a real good chance they're not
gonna be worn or used.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I say positive.
Speaker 3: No, how about he exchanges something positive about the Clippers
of the team. First, I you guys know, I was
room for PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker.
Speaker 3: I would say, hey, in certain situations, against Zion, against
Jokis for a couple of minutes here and there. I'm good.
I don't know about starting game six. Hey he's on
the team. I'll be rooting for them all the same
to start the season.
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, there we go. That was This has been
two weeks of very weird, weird positive things from adam Ouslint.
Speaker 3: Weird, that's weird positive things.
Speaker 1: There we go. We yeah, weird, that's weird positive things.
Club thirty two. We'll be back next week talking about
who knows what. But thank you,